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Gold Hat: Hola, senor. We are Federales. You know, the mounted police.

Dobbs: If you’re the police, where are your badges?

Gold Hat: Badges? We ain’t got no badges! We don’t need no badges. I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ badges!

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

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1 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:23:22pm

It's supposed to be "...steeeeenkin' badges!"

2 pat  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:23:58pm

Sleep well, every one.

3 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:24:15pm

That "Gold Hat" fake Federale actor was robbed of the "Best Supporting Actor" Oscar that year.

4 Bob Dillon  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:24:25pm

re: #1 zombie

It's supposed to be "...steeeeenkin' badges!"

Something always gets lost in translations.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:24:33pm

Are we sure the mean badges, and not badgers? Am reliably informed that badgers do stink.

6 pat  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:25:00pm

I have been to Sierra Madre. Just saying.

7 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:25:09pm

"Folks are excited about Obama because, in essence, they don’t know what he stands for, and thus can read into him anything they want. Not since the breathless coverage of Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault has there been so much attention to something where we had no idea of what was inside. My bet is that the result with Obama will be the same as with the vault."
-Coyote Blog

8 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:25:41pm

arrrgh! on our way out of the harbor today, we went by a fuel farm, and there was this huge tank labeled ethanol" but i couldn't talk the rest of the crew (SloKat, his wife and mine) into forming a raiding party......

it seems the pirate spirit is weak in them.....

9 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:26:05pm

What was prophetic about that film (among many other aspects) is that the criminals of northern Mexico are still impersonating police officers, 70 years later!

10 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:26:08pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Am reliably informed that badgers do stink.

Linky?

11 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:26:12pm

We don't need no steenkin' ba'ges.

12 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:26:37pm

It's a plot. I get here, make one or two posts and the overnight thread begins.
/

13 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:27:28pm

I like this bit, which originated in Jack Benny's version of Treasure of the Sierra Madre:

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:27:51pm

re: #7 gmsc

"Folks are excited about Obama because, in essence, they don’t know what he stands for, and thus can read into him anything they want. Not since the breathless coverage of Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault has there been so much attention to something where we had no idea of what was inside. My bet is that the result with Obama will be the same as with the vault."
-Coyote Blog

Am I the sole Jon Stewart watcher around here? Was enjoying the bit where Wyatt (one of the reporters) is live from London, screaming about how the deal was that we gave Europe Obama, and in return they would like us.

"You bait-and-switch m***********s!" (This yelled shortly before Wyatt takes a brick to the head.)

15 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:28:02pm
Gold Hat: Badges? We ain’t got no badges! We don’t need no badges. I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ badges!

Neither does the Mexican Army....apparently the closest thing to an honest broker that there is in Mexico's ongoing narcoinsurgency.

16 Pietr  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:28:08pm

re: #9 zombie

What was prophetic about that film (among many other aspects) is that the criminals of northern Mexico are still impersonating police officers, 70 years later!

And vice versa.......

/white smoke.......

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:28:20pm

re: #9 zombie

What was prophetic about that film (among many other aspects) is that the criminals of northern Mexico are still impersonating police officers, 70 years later!

Are you sure that the police officers are not impersonating criminals?

18 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:28:36pm

re: #12 Pvt Bin Jammin

It's a plot. I get here, make one or two posts and the overnight thread begins.
/

Maybe Charles is just waiting for you before he puts up an open thread for you dazzle us.

19 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:28:53pm

re: #13 gmsc

I like this bit, which originated in Jack Benny's version of Treasure of the Sierra Madre:

[Video]

Si

20 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:28:54pm

Fred C. Dobbs: Say, mister. Will you stake a fellow American to a meal?
American in Tampico in white suit: Such impudence never came my way. Early this afternoon I gave you money... while I was having my shoes polished I gave you MORE money... now you put the bite on me again. Do me a favor, will ya? Go occasionally to somebody else - it's beginning to get tiresome.
Fred C. Dobbs: Ah, excuse me, mister, I never knowed it was you. I never looked at your face - I just looked at your hands and the money you gave me. Beg pardon, mister, I promise I'll never put the bite on you again.
American in Tampico in white suit: [gives him a peso] This is the very last you get from me. Just to make sure you don't forget your promise, here's another peso.
[puts another peso in Dobbs' hand]
Fred C. Dobbs: Thanks, mister. Thanks.
American in Tampico in white suit: But from now on, you'll have to make your way through life without my assistance.

21 Macker  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:30:07pm

re: #7 gmsc

"Folks are excited about Obama because, in essence, they don’t know what he stands for, and thus can read into him anything they want. Not since the breathless coverage of Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault has there been so much attention to something where we had no idea of what was inside. My bet is that the result with Obama will be the same as with the vault."
-Coyote Blog

Waddya mean...he already IS!

22 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:30:28pm

re: #11 Gus 802

We don't need no steenkin' ba'ges.


[Video]

Thanks for the video. You're right -- it's got two "e"s -- steenkin' ba'ges, as you say. I was a little over-enthusiatic with my "steeeeenkin'."

23 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:31:30pm

re: #21 Macker

Waddya mean...he already IS!

I should clarify that the quote I gave is from January 20, 2009.

24 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:31:40pm

re: #22 zombie

Thanks for the video. You're right -- it's got two "e"s -- steenkin' ba'ges, as you say. I was a little over-enthusiatic with my "steeeeenkin'."

Right. I guess it's like when one says I "keel" you! //

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:32:16pm

re: #10 AmeriDan

Linky?

Gosh, people on this blog are picky about their information: behold, the Stink Badger.

I don't know if regular badgers also stink. Never sniffed one.

26 SurferDoc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:32:38pm

re: #13 gms

Great bit! Mel Blanc was a genius. He virtually invented "voice acting".

27 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:33:15pm

Blazing Saddles Version

28 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:34:23pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Are we sure the mean badges, and not badgers? Am reliably informed that badgers do stink.

But turtles do, in fact, make excellent suction cups.

29 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:34:54pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

Gosh, people on this blog are picky about their information: behold, the Stink Badger.

I don't know if regular badgers also stink. Never sniffed one.

Only on LGF can you get this kind of pertinent info so fast...

The stink badgers are well named - both species produce foul-smelling emissions from their anal glands.

30 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:35:08pm

re: #28 Zimriel

But turtles do, in fact, make excellent suction cups.

Oh noz! Turtle-Kittens! //

31 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:36:19pm

re: #30 Gus 802

Oh noz! Turtle-Kittens! //

Snapping sea kittens...:)

32 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:07pm

re: #18 AmeriDan

Maybe Charles is just waiting for you before he puts up an open thread for you dazzle us.

"Give 'em the old "Razzle Dazzle":

33 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:18pm

re: #31 Dustyvet

Snapping sea kittens...:)

They've got big teeth! //

34 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:19pm

re: #29 AmeriDan

The stink badgers are well named - both species produce foul-smelling emissions from their anal glands.

And the Cinnamon Bun badger's anal glands?

35 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:23pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know if regular badgers also stink.

Let's assume they do.

36 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:23pm

re: #27 Gus 802

Blazing Saddles Version


[Video]

How many of Hedy Lamarr's Outlaws from Blazing Saddles can you name in 6 minutes?

/That's Hedley!

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:38pm

re: #31 Dustyvet

Snapping sea kittens...:)

OK, I've heard this phrase a couple dozen times now, only on LGF. What is a 'sea kitten'? Is this like when we were in college and weren't allowed to have mammal pets in the dorm, so cats were referred to as 'furry fish'?

38 Pietr  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:37:44pm

re: #31 Dustyvet

Snapping sea kittens...:)

nobody noooooez

39 Boxy_brown  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:38:10pm

Found on the BBC "Have your say" (if you are an unemployed islamist, arrested adolescent Trotskyite or just hate the USA):

NATO North AtlanticTerrorist organization backed by Zionists Isreal
to spread terroism and fear and rob and kill muslim men women and babies in Gaza Iraq afghanistan control muslims and take their wealth however will achieve nothing for the west only achieved is every muslim murdered becomes a martyr and will go to the heaven sipping from the cup of peace
Allah is most just great forgiving Give thanks and praises to the holy one of creation chant down Babylon killing people and having fun

Just thought you ought to know this for some reason.

40 Macker  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:38:23pm

re: #26 SurferDoc

Great bit! Mel Blanc was a genius. He virtually invented "voice acting".

Besides all the Warner Bros. characters he did over the years, his stint as Twiki on Buck Rogers is also quite memorable. Especially when he was replaced for a short time during the first half of season 2 by some other guy who made Twiki sound totally effeminate.

41 pink freud  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:38:23pm

*pant pant* ....ok, I am here :-)

42 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:38:42pm

re: #36 gmsc

How many of Hedy Lamarr's Outlaws from Blazing Saddles can you name in 6 minutes?

/That's Hedley!

You mean like Slim Pickens, etc?

That's about all I can muster.

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:38:52pm

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

And the Cinnamon Bun badger's anal glands?

You know, that's a good question. Except it's producing, in my head, a horrible parody of those "And yes...it's Glade!" air freshener commercials.

"And yes...it's a badger's anal glands!"

44 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:39:05pm

I am surprised no one has posted this clip yet. :)

45 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:39:23pm

re: #42 Gus 802

You mean like Slim Pickens, etc?

That's about all I can muster.

No, you know: "Mugs, pugs . . ."

/I just gave you 2 free answers right there!

46 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:39:42pm

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I've heard this phrase a couple dozen times now, only on LGF. What is a 'sea kitten'? Is this like when we were in college and weren't allowed to have mammal pets in the dorm, so cats were referred to as 'furry fish'?

It's something PETA got started

[Link: www.peta.org...]

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:40:43pm

re: #39 Boxy_brown

Give thanks and praises to the holy one of creation chant down Babylon killing people and having fun

I think that just sort of says it all. What it is, not so clear.

48 Bob Dillon  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:40:44pm

I'm going down. Nite all.

49 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:41:02pm

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I've heard this phrase a couple dozen times now, only on LGF. What is a 'sea kitten'? Is this like when we were in college and weren't allowed to have mammal pets in the dorm, so cats were referred to as 'furry fish'?

Dustyvet in #46 is correct, but I like your explanation better.

50 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:41:10pm

You can learn a lot about a culture from its bedtime stories. Find out what keeps the sea kittens up at night.

51 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:41:17pm

re: #48 Bobibutu

I'm going down. Nite all.

Good night, Bobibutu!

52 HelloDare  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:41:30pm
53 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:41:54pm

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

And the Cinnamon Bun badger's anal glands?

I definitely want a link for that.

And a cinnamon bun... hold the badger's anal gland.

54 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:41:57pm

I've assumed a new identity over at YouTube: Captain Ahab.

Why?

Because there's apparently some kind of coordinated effort among moonbats to leave ridiculous Moby comments on any video threads where conservatives are dominating. So the Moby's will come on and say stuff like, "Them there Code Pink Wicthes is pissing me off! If I see one I'm gonna get me my assault rifle and show them some Shokc and Aw!"

Interspersed amongst these are slightly more clever Moby comments, some of which have a slim possibility of being real. These comments, if real, are simply left by jerks -- or "dicks" if you will.

So for the last week every day I have to hoist my deletion-harpoon and go out nabbing these countless "Moby/dick" comments on each of my threads.

55 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:42:14pm

re: #45 gmsc

No, you know: "Mugs, pugs . . ."

/I just gave you 2 free answers right there!

Oh, I've only seen that movie once. I wouldn't know.

56 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:44:14pm

'G'nite, lizards, my "razzle dazzle "has fizzled.

Take care everybody.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:44:20pm

re: #46 Dustyvet

It's something PETA got started

[Link: www.peta.org...]

Oh. I uh...well...I don't exactly see, but I sort of...

Is it me, or are PETA's campaigns getting weirder?

58 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:44:33pm

re: #54 zombie

The Youtube sockpuppets. There are plenty.

59 pink freud  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:44:58pm

re: #56 Pvt Bin Jammin

Sleep well, PBJ> :-)

60 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:45:05pm

re: #56 Pvt Bin Jammin

'G'nite, lizards, my "razzle dazzle "has fizzled.

Take care everybody.


Fo' shizzle?

61 Pietr  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:45:11pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh. I uh...well...I don't exactly see, but I sort of...

Is it me, or are PETA's campaigns getting weirder?

Hint, it isn't you.........

62 Boxy_brown  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:45:45pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it means allah doesn't want anyone to have fun in Babylon. That would explain Saddam.

63 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:45:58pm

re: #46 Dustyvet

It's something PETA got started

[Link: www.peta.org...]

I had no idea. Sea kittens as in grouppers and sea bass?

64 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:46:20pm

Groupers that is.

65 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:46:22pm

re: #54 zombie

Hi Captain Ahab! Let's go frog stomp some commie Code Pinkers!

/moby mode off

66 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:46:40pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh. I uh...well...I don't exactly see, but I sort of...

Is it me, or are PETA's campaigns getting weirder?

Yuppers they getting weirder

67 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:47:35pm

re: #54 zombie

I've assumed a new identity over at YouTube: Captain Ahab.

Why?

Because there's apparently some kind of coordinated effort among moonbats to leave ridiculous Moby comments on any video threads where conservatives are dominating. So the Moby's will come on and say stuff like, "Them there Code Pink Wicthes is pissing me off! If I see one I'm gonna get me my assault rifle and show them some Shokc and Aw!"

Interspersed amongst these are slightly more clever Moby comments, some of which have a slim possibility of being real. These comments, if real, are simply left by jerks -- or "dicks" if you will.

So for the last week every day I have to hoist my deletion-harpoon and go out nabbing these countless "Moby/dick" comments on each of my threads.

Wait – there are people who actually read YouTube comments?!?

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:47:56pm

re: #61 Pietr

Hint, it isn't you.........

Wow.

69 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:48:03pm

re: #66 Dustyvet

Yuppers they getting weirder

Eeek!

Please take just a few moments to send an e-mail to H. Dale Hall, the director of the FWS, asking him to stop promoting the hunting of sea kittens (otherwise known as "fishing"). The promotion of sea kitten hunting is a glaring contradiction of FWS' mission to "conserve, protect and enhance fish, wildlife and plants and their habitats."

70 Boxy_brown  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:48:20pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it me, or are PETA's campaigns getting weirder?

Fish are cats now... Nothing weird about it.

Would people think twice about ordering fish sticks if they were called sea kitten sticks? Would sea kitten soufflé be a hot seller at the local seafood restaurant? Does fillet o' sea kitten sound even remotely appetizing? Learn more about the new campaign to save fish by changing their name.

Maybe they can put most of the fish they catch to sleep too.

71 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:49:30pm

re: #65 AmeriDan

Hi Captain Ahab! Let's go frog stomp some commie Code Pinkers!

/moby mode off

A definitive giveaway is when they trot out the "sand N-word." They've been doing that a lot lately. Guaranteed Moby flag.

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:50:31pm

re: #62 Boxy_brown

I think it means allah doesn't want anyone to have fun in Babylon. That would explain Saddam.

So it's sort of a Muslim-Rasta religious justification for the Baath regime?

Also, if you're going to spend a lot of time complaining about Israel online, would it kill some people not to spell it "Isreal"?

73 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:51:40pm

re: #70 Boxy_brown

Maybe they can put most of the fish they catch to sleep too.

We can start another movement.

"Help us in our goal to spay and neuter fish."

//

74 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:51:45pm

re: #67 gmsc

Wait – there are people who actually read YouTube comments?!?

I have my settings set to "notify me" whenever a comment is left on certain threads, because some huge percentage of them involve killing people and taboo epithets, all of which require zapping.

75 Pietr  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:52:22pm

re: #70 Boxy_brown

Sea Kittehs never have these problems, tho.....

you have the right to...

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:52:42pm

re: #69 Gus 802

Years ago, my dad went on a disastrous salmon-fishing trip where no one caught a thing. My mom, as her little joke, made a beautiful fish-shaped meatloaf for dinner, with carrot-slice scales, when he got back.

Now, I'm wondering if it should have been kitten-shaped.

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:53:58pm

re: #71 zombie

A definitive giveaway is when they trot out the "sand N-word." They've been doing that a lot lately. Guaranteed Moby flag.

I have never actually heard anyone say that. I've heard people speculate that people they don't like say it. But I've never actually heard it used.

78 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:54:55pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

Years ago, my dad went on a disastrous salmon-fishing trip where no one caught a thing. My mom, as her little joke, made a beautiful fish-shaped meatloaf for dinner, with carrot-slice scales, when he got back.

Now, I'm wondering if it should have been kitten-shaped.

Hmm, that would work! Perhaps we should rename meatloaf: Kittenloaf!

[Insert staccato crescendo music here -- or something.]

//

79 zombie  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:55:48pm

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

I have never actually heard anyone say that. I've heard people speculate that people they don't like say it. But I've never actually heard it used.

It isn't used. The only people who have ever said it are leftists lamely trying to imitate what they imagine a Bush voter is like. A pitiful spectacle.

80 Boxy_brown  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:56:02pm

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

So it's sort of a Muslim-Rasta religious justification for the Baath regime?

Also, if you're going to spend a lot of time complaining about Israel online, would it kill some people not to spell it "Isreal"?

Rastafarian jihadists aren't really known for their spelling I'm afraid.. Spell check was probably invented by some zionist, therefore forbidden.

81 pink freud  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:56:20pm

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

I live in oilfield country. It is commonly used among that group.

82 gmsc  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:56:29pm

If fish are sea kittens now, what do we call catfish? dogfish? "Chicken of the Sea" Tuna?

Is it now OK to throw kittens into a river?

Does this sea kitten stupidity mean PETA has jumped the shark?

83 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:56:55pm

re: #71 zombie

A definitive giveaway is when they trot out the "sand N-word." They've been doing that a lot lately. Guaranteed Moby flag.

I know mobys are a headache to you, Charles, and other bloggers... but I think they are funny. Yes, they can do great harm, but their version of the stereotype of us war mongers is a laugh riot.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:57:10pm

re: #78 Gus 802

Hmm, that would work! Perhaps we should rename meatloaf: Kittenloaf!

[Insert staccato crescendo music here -- or something.]

//

Does anyone have a good kittenloaf recipe for the next cookbook?

85 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:57:38pm

re: #79 zombie

It isn't used. The only people who have ever said it are leftists lamely trying to imitate what they imagine a Bush voter is like. A pitiful spectacle.

Think you're right, there.

86 Gus  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:57:52pm

re: #82 gmsc

If fish are sea kittens now, what do we call catfish? dogfish? "Chicken of the Sea" Tuna?

Is it now OK to throw kittens into a river?

Does this sea kitten stupidity mean PETA has jumped the shark?

They keep jumping the shark but the shark keeps coming around and getting bigger. This angle is to brainwash kids and scare them onto their side. Start them off at an early age to be just as crazy as they are.

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:58:40pm

re: #81 pink freud

I live in oilfield country. It is commonly used among that group.

Ah. Interesting. Gross, but interesting. Wouldn't have known that.

(See the wonders of the internet!)

88 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:58:41pm

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Does anyone have a good kittenloaf recipe for the next cookbook?

Nah, Tiger keeps spitting out the apple...:)

89 Boxy_brown  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 11:59:53pm

re: #83 AmeriDan

I know mobys are a headache to you, Charles, and other bloggers... but I think they are funny. Yes, they can do great harm, but their version of the stereotype of us war mongers is a laugh riot.

I think they influenced a lot of people to stay home last election day... to wait for a "true conservative". Whenever I read someone tossing out the word RINO left and right my bullshit detector goes off.

90 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:00:07am

Today in History, April 5th:

91 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:00:20am

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Does anyone have a good kittenloaf recipe for the next cookbook?

I do, but instead of bread or crakers for the filler, you have to use baby seals.

Good stuff.

92 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:00:43am

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Does anyone have a good kittenloaf recipe for the next cookbook?

Kung Pao Kitten

Start with 2 full cups of chopped onions. Red onions are preferred but white onions will suffice...

//

93 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:00:53am

I kid you not....
New Wine for Seniors

California vintners in the Napa Valley area, which primarily produce Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio wines, have developed a new hybrid grape that acts as an anti-diuretic.
It is expected to reduce the number of trips older people have to make to the bathroom during the night.

The new wine will be marketed as

PINO MORE

94 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:01:38am

re: #78 Gus 802

Hmm, that would work! Perhaps we should rename meatloaf: Kittenloaf!

[Insert staccato crescendo music here -- or something.]

//

Staccato crescendo music? How about music by Kittenloaf himself?

95 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:06am

re: #89 Boxy_brown

I think they influenced a lot of people to stay home last election day

Sad, but true.

96 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:15am

re: #93 Pietr

I kid you not....
New Wine for Seniors

California vintners in the Napa Valley area, which primarily produce Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio wines, have developed a new hybrid grape that acts as an anti-diuretic.
It is expected to reduce the number of trips older people have to make to the bathroom during the night.

The new wine will be marketed as

PINO MORE

I've been trying that new wine from Iraq....White Inafadel...:)

97 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:24am

re: #94 gmsc

Staccato crescendo music? How about music by Kittenloaf himself?

[Video]

That's like a 500 pound kitten. //

98 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:55am

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah. Interesting. Gross, but interesting. Wouldn't have known that.

(See the wonders of the internet!)

The guys that work the rigs eventually will cycle around to working in Saudi Arabia. (Halliburton, Schlumberger, Brown & Root, Baker Hughes, the majors and the service companies.) It's common for someone from here to run into a neighbor over there that lives right around the corner form them here -- it's a small world. As someone who lives in the community, I hear the stories: Bibles are removed from luggage, as are Levi jeans. The contempt for the Saudis is strong, therefore the use of the word.

99 Boxy_brown  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:04:22am

'nite folks...

100 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:04:27am

re: #96 Dustyvet

I've been trying that new wine from Iraq....White Inafadel...:)

Archeology Find

After having dug to a depth of 10 feet last year, New York scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the conclusion, that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 100 years ago.

Not to be out-done by the New Yorkers, in the weeks that followed, in California an archaeologist dug to a depth of 20 feet, and shortly after, headlines in the LA Times newspaper read: 'California archaeologists have found traces of 200 year old copper wire and have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred years earlier than the New Yorkers.'

One week later, a local newspaper in Texas , reported the following:

After digging as deep as 30 feet in his 2000 acre pasture near Cut-n-Shoot, Montgomery County, Texas, Bubba Rathbone, a self-taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely nothing. Bubba has therefore concluded that 300 years ago, Texas had already gone wireless.

101 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:04:49am

re: #99 Boxy_brown

'nite folks...

Good night, Boxy!

102 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:36am

The movie, Secondhand Lions, is on TBS. Robert Duvall. It's a good one.

103 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:50am

Coming up next!

Monkeys become Tree Kittens
Birds and Duck become Sky Kittens.
Rocks and Minerals become Geo Kittens.

//Madness!

104 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:06:10am

re: #99 Boxy_brown

'nite folks...

G'night, Boxy......

105 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:07:30am

re: #102 pink freud

The movie, Secondhand Lions, is on TBS. Robert Duvall. It's a good one.

Duvall is great. The Great Santini! Second Hand Lions is a great movie as well.

Great, great, great. :)

106 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:21am

re: #103 Gus 802

Coming up next!

Monkeys become Tree Kittens
Birds and Duck become Sky Kittens.
Rocks and Minerals become Geo Kittens.

//Madness!

Gophers and moles become subway kittens.

107 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:22am

re: #103 Gus 802

Coming up next!

Monkeys become Tree Kittens
Birds and Duck become Sky Kittens.
Rocks and Minerals become Geo Kittens.

//Madness!

What do Kittens become?

108 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:28am

re: #102 pink freud

The movie, Secondhand Lions, is on TBS. Robert Duvall. It's a good one.

One of my favorites.

109 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:09:02am

re: #107 gmsc

What do Kittens become?

People!

Solyentkittens is people!

//

110 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:10:21am

re: #105 Gus 802

He came down here to Cajun country to film 'The Apostle'. Fell in love with the place, the people, the food. Still comes back quietly to visit. One of my favorite actors.

111 Cheechako  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:10:59am

re: #107 gmsc

What do Kittens become?

sea lions

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:11am

re: #98 pink freud

The guys that work the rigs eventually will cycle around to working in Saudi Arabia. (Halliburton, Schlumberger, Brown & Root, Baker Hughes, the majors and the service companies.) It's common for someone from here to run into a neighbor over there that lives right around the corner form them here -- it's a small world. As someone who lives in the community, I hear the stories: Bibles are removed from luggage, as are Levi jeans. The contempt for the Saudis is strong, therefore the use of the word.

Interesting stuff. Thanks.

113 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:36am

re: #109 Gus 802

People!

Solyentkittens is people!

//

Mmm... solyentkittens.

But you have to eat them fresh. They microwave dries them out.

114 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:38am

re: #109 Gus 802

People!

Solyentkittens is people!

//

FRY: What if the secret ingredient is people?
LEELA: No, there's already a soda like that. Soylent Cola.
FRY: Oh. How is it?
LEELA: It varies from person to person.

115 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:32am

re: #109 Gus 802

People!

Solyentkittens is people!

//

I figured they would be land sea kittens, er sumpin'.

116 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:33am

re: #110 pink freud

He came down here to Cajun country to film 'The Apostle'. Fell in love with the place, the people, the food. Still comes back quietly to visit. One of my favorite actors.

He's one of a few actors that I consider a patriot. Loves the USA. He does spend a lot of time in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

117 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:13:12am

re: #115 gmsc

I figured they would be land sea kittens, er sumpin'.

Oh, right. Let's see:

Kitten kittens? //

118 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:13:57am

re: #113 AmeriDan

Mmm... solyentkittens.

But you have to eat them fresh. They microwave dries them out.

It's good to put a bowl of water off to one side when using the microwave. //

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:33am

re: #117 Gus 802

Oh, right. Let's see:

Kitten kittens? //

No, kittens are now fish. Eventually the word 'fish' will be associated with cute furriness, and then we can change back. But by then, thousands of children will have failed kindergarten, due to total confusion about 'what sound does the fish make'?

120 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:45am

Heh.

I'm eating a tuna fish seakitten sandwich right now.

121 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:33am

I was sorry to hear about the Lizard Lounge.

//Forget your stupid chat room! I'm gonna start my own chat room! With blackjack! And hookers! As a matter of fact, forget the chat room . . .

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:17:02am

re: #120 AmeriDan

Heh.

I'm eating a tuna fish seakitten sandwich right now.

The Obamas use pickles and dijon mustard in their seakitten sandwiches.

(How do you distinguish in this case between a fried seakitten sandwich and a tuna seakitten sandwich?)

123 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:17:17am

re: #120 AmeriDan

Heh.

I'm eating a tuna fish seakitten sandwich right now.

What's the best tuna? Kitten of the sea!


/I prefer dolphin myself, but I'll only eat it if it's tuna-safe.

124 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:17:23am

re: #121 gmsc

I was sorry to hear about the Lizard Lounge.

//Forget your stupid chat room! I'm gonna start my own chat room! With blackjack! And hookers! As a matter of fact, forget the chat room . . .

And here all this time I was thinking you were a mild-mannered mathematician ......

125 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:18:25am

re: #124 pink freud

And here all this time I was thinking you were a mild-mannered mathematician ......

It's always the quiet ones!
;)

126 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:18:43am

re: #125 gmsc

Don't I know it!

127 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:18:57am

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

No, kittens are now fish. Eventually the word 'fish' will be associated with cute furriness, and then we can change back. But by then, thousands of children will have failed kindergarten, due to total confusion about 'what sound does the fish make'?

Yeah. Then we'll have to keep the Fish Litter Box clean before the guests arrive. We'll be serving the fish [kitten] "Kittenfood Platter" and instead of a scratching pole we'll train them to play in an empty aquarium. //

128 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:02am

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

The Obamas use pickles and dijon mustard in their seakitten sandwiches.

(How do you distinguish in this case between a fried seakitten sandwich and a tuna seakitten sandwich?)

Mmmm, mmm. I'm hankering for some Kittenfried Steak. //

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:19am

Back in college, I used to live down the hall from a guy who wrote songs and performed them on the guitar at campus events. One of his hits was 'Save a Fish, Club a Harp Seal'.

He also did a song called 'Darwin's Little Blunders'.

130 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:42am

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

The Obamas use pickles and dijon mustard in their seakitten sandwiches.

Now that is just plain sicko! I didn't think my opinion of them could get any lower. I was wrong.

131 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:21:13am

re: #124 pink freud

And here all this time I was thinking you were a mild-mannered mathematician ......

That joke was based on a joke from the 2nd episode of Futurama (scroll down to quote #24).

132 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:21:14am

re: #123 gmsc

What's the best tuna? Kitten of the sea!

/I prefer dolphin myself, but I'll only eat it if it's tunakitten-safe.

Kitten-free tuna! GWTP

;)

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:21:20am

re: #127 Gus 802

Yeah. Then we'll have to keep the Fish Litter Box clean before the guests arrive. We'll be serving the fish [kitten] "Kittenfood Platter" and instead of a scratching pole we'll train them to play in an empty aquarium. //

Or, maybe not.

I'm not sure how much control over the English language I'm willing to give PETA.

134 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:21:41am

re: #127 Gus 802

Yeah. Then we'll have to keep the Fish Litter Box clean before the guests arrive. We'll be serving the fish [kitten] "Kittenfood Platter" and instead of a scratching pole we'll train them to play in an empty aquarium. //

Image: sea_kitteh_coley.jpeg

135 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:18am

re: #127 Gus 802

Yeah. Then we'll have to keep the Fish Litter Box clean before the guests arrive. We'll be serving the fish [kitten] "Kittenfood Platter" and instead of a scratching pole we'll train them to play in an empty aquarium. //

And feed them kitten flakes?

136 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:26am

re: #134 Dustyvet

[Link: pandameatcurescancer.files.wordpress.com...]

Oh noz! A kittenmaid! //

137 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:23:40am

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

Or, maybe not.

I'm not sure how much control over the English language I'm willing to give PETA.

Maybe. But they may turn out to be like the Borg! :)

138 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:23:54am

re: #123 gmsc

What's the best tuna? Kitten of the sea!

/I prefer dolphin myself, but I'll only eat it if it's tuna-safe.

Dolphin taste too much like chicken.

Boring!

/

139 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:06am

re: #137 Gus 802

Maybe. But they may turn out to be like the Borg Space Kittens! :)

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:08am

re: #130 AmeriDan

Now that is just plain sicko! I didn't think my opinion of them could get any lower. I was wrong.

I wouldn't know what the president puts in his sandwiches, or care, but for some reason best known to herself, Michelle Malkin devoted an entire blog post to the Obamas' tuna sandwiches, and the comments got fairly hysterical. Apparently there is nothing that drives Americans apart like a good debate about what to put in tunakittenfish salad.

Part of the problem was that Michelle M. did not know what a gherkin was, and some Obama supporters were pleased to tell her, in rather rude language. (To be fair to them, it's not that hard to look up 'gherkin'.) Then it got bad. I particularly liked the guy who stated flatly "If he does not use mayonnaise, he is not fit to lead."

141 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:13am

re: #131 gmsc

That joke was based on a joke from the 2nd episode of Futurama (scroll down to quote #24).

There are times when I realize there are substantial gaps in my edumacation. This is one of those times. :-)

/futurama?

142 Spiritualized  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:17am
Would people think twice about ordering fish sticks if they were called sea kitten sticks? Would sea kitten soufflé be a hot seller at the local seafood restaurant? Does fillet o' sea kitten sound even remotely appetizing? Learn more about the new campaign to save fish by changing their name.

Why are they pretending to care about cats? They've killed thousands of them:

PETAkillsanimals.com

Now the death toll of animals in PETA's care has reached 21,339, including more than 2,000 pets last year. That's not an animal charity. It's a slaughterhouse.

143 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:28am

re: #138 AmeriDan

Dolphin taste too much like chicken.

Boring!

/

That's like albacore. You ever notice the other tuna tastes like cat food? Hmm?

//

144 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:27:25am

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Hahaha!

/added to da list!

145 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:27:26am

re: #138 AmeriDan

Dolphin taste too much like chicken.

Boring!

/

What's the porpoise of your statement?
/

146 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:27:55am

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Does the Mayo Clinic have a psychiatric unit? //

147 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:29:01am

re: #145 LGoPs

Hi LGoPs! Isn't it rather late for you?

148 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:29:39am

re: #141 pink freud

There are times when I realize there are substantial gaps in my edumacation. This is one of those times. :-)

/futurama?

I'll let Wikipedia explain about Futurama.

149 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:30:04am

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

I wouldn't know what the president puts in his sandwiches, or care, but for some reason best known to herself, Michelle Malkin devoted an entire blog post to the Obamas' tuna sandwiches, and the comments got fairly hysterical. Apparently there is nothing that drives Americans apart like a good debate about what to put in tunakittenfish salad.

Part of the problem was that Michelle M. did not know what a gherkin was, and some Obama supporters were pleased to tell her, in rather rude language. (To be fair to them, it's not that hard to look up 'gherkin'.) Then it got bad. I particularly liked the guy who stated flatly "If he does not use mayonnaise, he is not fit to lead."

Dude has a point.

150 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:30:07am

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Then it got bad. I particularly liked the guy who stated flatly "If he does not use mayonnaise, he is not fit to lead."

My condiments to him on that statement....
/

151 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:30:17am

re: #145 LGoPs

What's the porpoise of your statement?
/

Hey, don't Flipper out on us.

//

152 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:31:21am

re: #145 LGoPs

What's the porpoise of your statement?
/

Are you fishing for an upding with that pun?

153 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:31:36am

re: #147 pink freud

Hi LGoPs! Isn't it rather late for you?

Hi Back. Yeah it is late.....and I have to work tomorrow. But I can never pass up making some smart ass stupid jokes when the opportunity comes up....
:)

154 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:32:26am

re: #152 AmeriDan

Are you fishing for an upding with that pun?

At least I'm not trolling for an up-ding.....
:)

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:32:59am

I think I'm going to bed. Long day.

Pink Freud, you should have my e-mail now.

Sea kittens! I mean, I love animals. I believe in the humane treatment of animals. But sea kittens!

Yikes.

156 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:33:03am

re: #152 AmeriDan

Are you fishing for an upding with that pun?

Oh, great. Pollack jokes.

157 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:33:11am

re: #148 gmsc

I'll let Wikipedia explain about Futurama.

1999 - 2003 ....well that explains it. I was busy raising soon-to-be teenagers at that point. My spare time was spent reading and gardening ...not much tv. Now that the world is falling apart, I pay more attention. :-)

158 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:33:54am

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

I think I'm going to bed. Long day.

Pink Freud, you should have my e-mail now.

Sea kittens! I mean, I love animals. I believe in the humane treatment of animals. But sea kittens!

Yikes.

Yep, kittens are cute. Fish are fish. And PETA is nutz.

159 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:34:54am

re: #157 pink freud

1999 - 2003 ....well that explains it. I was busy raising soon-to-be teenagers at that point. My spare time was spent reading and gardening ...not much tv. Now that the world is falling apart, I pay more attention. :-)

It is my single most favorite show in all of TV history. All the episodes are out on DVD. I suggest watching them in order, as the overall story arc develops significantly throughout the show.

(There's subtle things in the first episode that don't get explained until the 2nd or 3rd season!)

160 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:35:09am

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

I think I'm going to bed. Long day.

Pink Freud, you should have my e-mail now.

Sea kittens! I mean, I love animals. I believe in the humane treatment of animals. But sea kittens!

Yikes.

'Night, SFZ!

161 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:35:37am

re: #154 LGoPs

At least I'm not trolling for an up-ding.....
:)

I'm not biting that one.

162 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:35:46am

re: #154 LGoPs

At least I'm not trolling for an up-ding.....
:)

For jokes like that, is this really the plaice?

163 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:36:27am

re: #153 LGoPs

Hi Back. Yeah it is late.....and I have to work tomorrow. But I can never pass up making some smart ass stupid jokes when the opportunity comes up....
:)

All smart ass stupid jokes are welcome on the LNDT. Dusty and Erik are the joke-meisters round these parts, and petr and gmsc throw one in every now and then. If you hang around long enough, gmsc will turn your brain to mush with his brain teasers, though, so watch out.

Good to see you here!

(Where's Erik, anyway? Is he en route? ...or just off for the weekend?)

164 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:36:33am

re: #156 gmsc

Oh, great. Pollack jokes.

Did you say Pollack or Pollock? My herring's not so good....

165 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:36:46am

re: #156 gmsc

Oh, great. Pollack jokes.

Don't try and lure me away from the topic with ethic jokes.

166 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:36:58am

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

Hmmm ....I emailed you back an hour or so ago!

167 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:37:39am

re: #165 AmeriDan

Don't try and lure me away from the topic with ethic jokes.

Ethic jokes are against my morals. I could however through a net around that idea.

//

168 freetoken  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:37:53am

re: #157 pink freud

Futurama on rare occasions I could catch on TV... from what I saw it seemed humorous enough. It also struck me as sort of an animated equivalent of Lexx.

169 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:39:18am

re: #159 gmsc

It is my single most favorite show in all of TV history. All the episodes are out on DVD. I suggest watching them in order, as the overall story arc develops significantly throughout the show.

My goodness! That is high praise indeed! With a recommendation like that, I will have to check this out.

170 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:39:40am

re: #167 Gus 802

Ethic jokes are against my morals. I could however through a net around that idea.

//

That's in seine.......

171 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:39:48am

re: #160 gmsc

Goodnight!

172 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:40:17am

re: #164 LGoPs

Did you say Pollack or Pollock? My herring's not so good....

Those herrings would only go well with fishnets and eels.

173 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:40:37am

re: #167 Gus 802

I could however through a net around that idea.

As long as no seakittens are harmed.

174 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:40:54am

re: #171 pink freud

Goodnight!

I was saying good night to SFZ. I'm not going anywhere just yet!

175 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:41:38am

re: #171 pink freud

Goodnight!

Sleep well.

176 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:41:47am

Degrees of Blond

FIRST DEGREE
A married couple was asleep when the phone rang at 2 in the morning. The very blonde wife picked up the phone, listened a moment, and said 'How should I know, that's 200 miles from here!' and hung up. The husband said, 'Who was that?'

The wife answered, 'I don't know, some woman wanting to know if the coast is clear.'

SECOND DEGREE
Two blondes are walking down the street. One notices a compact on the sidewalk and leans down to pick it up. She opens it, looks in the mirror and says, 'Hmm, this person looks familiar.'

The second blonde says, 'Here, let me see!'

So, the first blonde hands her the compact.

The second blonde looks in the mirror and says, 'You dummy, it's me!'

THIRD DEGREE
A blonde suspects her boyfriend of cheating on her, so she goes out and buys a gun. She goes to his apartment unexpectedly and when she opens the door she finds him in the arms of a redhead. Well, the blonde is really angry. She opens her purse to take out the gun, and as she does so, she is overcome with grief. She takes the gun and puts it to her head.

The boyfriend yells, 'No, honey, don't do it!'

The blonde replies, 'Shut up, you're next!'


(end of part 1)

177 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:42:18am

re: #173 AmeriDan

As long as no seakittens are harmed.

Notice:

No Seakittens were harmed in the postings on this article.

//

178 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:42:39am

Part 2...

FOURTH DEGREE
A blonde was bragging about her knowledge of state capitals. She proudly says, 'Go ahead, ask me... I know 'em all.'

A friend says, 'OK, what's the capital of Wisconsin ?'

The blonde replies, 'Oh, that's easy. Its W.'

FIFTH DEGREE
Q: What did the blonde ask her doctor when he told her she was pregnant?
A: 'Is it mine?'

SIXTH DEGREE
Bambi, a blonde in her fourth year as a UCLA Freshman, sat in her US Government class. The professor asked Bambi if she knew what Roe vs. Wade was about.

Bambi pondered the question; then, finally, said, 'That was the decision George Washington had to make before he crossed the Delaware .'

SEVENTH DEGREE
Returning home from work, a blonde was shocked to find her house ransacked and burglarized. She telephoned the police at once and reported the crime. The police dispatcher broadcast the call on the radio, and a K-9 unit, patrolling nearby, was the first to respond.

As the K-9 officer approached the house with his dog on a leash, the blonde ran out on the porch, shuddered at the sight of the cop and his dog, then sat down on the steps. Putting her face in her hands, she moaned, 'I come home to find all my possessions stolen. I call the police for help, and what do they do? They send me a BLIND COP!'

179 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:42:47am

re: #174 gmsc

Me too! My bad.

I was saying good night to SFZ. I'm not going anywhere just yet!

180 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:42:58am
181 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:43:14am

re: #175 AmeriDan

I was saying good night to SFZ. I'm not going anywhere just yet! :-)

182 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:43:23am

re: #170 LGoPs

That's in seine.......

I'm at a Miss.

183 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:43:35am

re: #167 Gus 802

Ethic jokes are against my morals. I could however through a net around that idea.

//

"When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that's a moray..."
-Dean Marlin

184 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:43:57am

re: #181 pink freud

I was saying good night to SFZ. I'm not going anywhere just yet! :-)

This could go on for a while . . .

185 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:44:15am

re: #183 gmsc

"When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that's a moray..."
-Dean Marlin

LOL.......that was good
:)

186 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:44:34am

re: #176 Pietr

WATCH IT, BUDDY!

187 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:45:27am

re: #183 gmsc

"When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that's a moray..."
-Dean Marlin

make me laugh like that again and I'll keel you......
:)

188 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:45:52am

re: #180 taxfreekiller

TFK! Nice to see you here, too!

189 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:46:09am

re: #177 Gus 802

Notice:

No Seakittens were harmed in the postings on this article.

//

That's good to know. We must always keep the seakittens- and Michele's kids- close to our hearts.

/ /

190 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:46:56am

re: #180 taxfreekiller

LOL!

191 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:47:04am

re: #183 gmsc

"When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that's a moray..."
-Dean Marlin

On a Scale of 1 to 10 I give that a 9. //

192 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:47:39am

re: #181 pink freud

I was saying good night to SFZ. I'm not going anywhere just yet! :-)

Doh! That's your raincheck for when you do log off.

193 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:47:41am

re: #187 LGoPs

make me laugh like that again and I'll keel you......
:)

Why mako big deal about it?

194 suboptimal  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:48:27am

(mostly) For redc1c4
------------------------------------
We've got a bigger problem now.

Last call for alcohol.
Last call for your freedom of speech.
Drink up. Happy hour is now enforced by law.
Don't forget our house special, it's called a Slick Willy Screwdriver.
It's got one part Jack Daniels, two parts purple Kool-Aid,
and a jigger of formaldehyde from the jar with Stalin's brain in it we got in the back storeroom.

I am Emperor Barack Hussien
Born to an ideology insane
Still, you made me president

Second Amendment will soon go 'way
I am now your One today
Now I command all of you
Now you're going to pray in school
By law you'll pray to me, you tool

Obama Uber alles
Uber alles Obama

Reid-Pelosi will control you
Still you think it's natural
All your worth determined by your race
Still you wear the happy face

You closed your eyes, can't happen here
The Hildebeast is near
Fascism won't come back you say
"Volunteer" or you will pay

Obama Uber alles
Uber alles Obama

Yeah, that's it. Just relax.
Have another joint, few more lines, little more LSD.
Turn on those "View" Babes on your TV.
Lock your doors. Close your mind.
It's time for the two-minute hate.

Welcome to 1984
Are you ready for the new class war?!?
You too will meet my secret police
They'll cuff you and they'll taser your niece

You'll go quietly to re-education
Learn the glory of our socialist nation
Don't you worry, it's for a cause
Feeding liberal Democrats' claws

Die on our brand new poison gas
In Iran or Afghanistan
Making money for Prez Obama
And no one but Lord Prez Obama

Obama Uber alles
Uber alles Obama
------------------------------------
This has been a parody of a real song, no actual talent was used in the creation of this parody.

195 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:49:01am

re: #192 AmeriDan

;-)

I love the LNDT's. You guys are great ...and I have you all to myself!

196 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:49:26am

re: #195 pink freud

(that should flush out littleoldlady, eh?)

197 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:49:34am

re: #193 gmsc

Why mako big deal about it?

I'm staying up late and I know that when the alarm goes off in the morning I will be filled with remoras.....

198 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:49:43am

re: #193 gmsc

Why mako big deal about it?

People that aren't Yellowtails don't mind making a big deal about things. //

199 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:50:37am

re: #198 Gus 802

People that aren't Yellowtails don't mind making a big deal about things. //

So, it's just for the halibut?

200 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:51:40am

re: #199 gmsc

So, it's just for the halibut?

Seems we are floundering here.....

201 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:51:54am

re: #197 LGoPs

I'm staying up late and I know that when the alarm goes off in the morning I will be filled with remoras.....

After salmon-chanted evening?

202 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:52:30am

re: #200 Pietr

Seems we are floundering here.....

If I run out of ideas I might resort to bottom feeding. //

203 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:52:48am

re: #201 gmsc

After salmon-chanted evening?

these puns are the sole reason I'm hanging around here....

204 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:52:52am

re: #201 gmsc

After salmon-chanted evening?

You might meet a stingray....

205 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:53:10am

re: #202 Gus 802

draggin' bass?

206 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:53:36am

re: #205 pink freud

draggin' bass?

Yeah, I might have to Puffer myself up.

207 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:53:53am

re: #205 pink freud

draggin' bass?

Bigmouth.....
:)

208 Zimriel  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:54:27am

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

I wouldn't know what the president puts in his sandwiches, or care, but for some reason best known to herself, Michelle Malkin devoted an entire blog post to the Obamas' tuna sandwiches, and the comments got fairly hysterical. Apparently there is nothing that drives Americans apart like a good debate about what to put in tunakittenfish salad.

Part of the problem was that Michelle M. did not know what a gherkin was, and some Obama supporters were pleased to tell her, in rather rude language. (To be fair to them, it's not that hard to look up 'gherkin'.) Then it got bad. I particularly liked the guy who stated flatly "If he does not use mayonnaise, he is not fit to lead."

Yay! Tuna melts!

I like 'em hot, and cheesy, with lots of sour tasting slime, and also with tomatoes and pickles. Maybe some pepper. Definitely onions.

I'll take mayo but I don't like a lot of it. And I don't want more salt added (the pickles and tuna have lots of that already).

209 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:54:28am

re: #206 Gus 802

Yeah, I might have to Puffer myself up.

Isn't that from Hootie and the Blowfish?

210 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:54:47am

re: #195 pink freud

;-)

I love the LNDT's. You guys are great ...and I have you all to myself!

Please be gentle, or not, it's all good.

Just warn us when littleoldlady gets here so we can clean up the language and tidy up a bit.

211 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:55:08am

re: #203 LGoPs

these puns are the sole reason I'm hanging around here....

So, you believe in Cod?

212 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:55:19am

re: #209 Pietr

Isn't that from Hootie and the Blowfish?

Maybe. I was never a Grouper of theirs. //

213 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:56:28am

re: #195 pink freud

;-)

I love the LNDT's. You guys are great ...and I have you all to myself!

That's a shellfish attitude!

214 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:57:00am

re: #212 Gus 802

Maybe. I was never a Grouper of theirs. //

how about 'Blue Oyster Cult'-didn't they do Sole Survivor.....?

215 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:57:05am

re: #213 gmsc

That's a shellfish attitude!

Don't be a Crab.

216 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:57:22am

re: #213 gmsc

That's a shellfish attitude!

You musseled that one in before I could.....

217 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:57:45am

re: #210 AmeriDan

Please be gentle, or not, it's all good.

Just warn us when littleoldlady gets here so we can clean up the language and tidy up a bit.

I actually very demurer.

(i think she stumbles on in right before the 2 PST time hour ...it's always a good idea to start tidying about 1 30ish or so ...she likes it neat) :-)

218 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:58:13am

re: #213 gmsc

That's a shellfish attitude!

You are such a bottom feeder.

219 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:58:39am

re: #218 AmeriDan

You are such a bottom feeder.

Stop carping.....

220 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:59:00am

Don't know about you guys but I am perching over hear wondering if I want to join the school.

221 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:59:03am

re: #214 Pietr

how about 'Blue Oyster Cult'-didn't they do Sole Survivor.....?

I was about to Clam up but I'm afraid your Right.

222 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:59:10am

re: #218 AmeriDan

You are such a bottom feeder.

maybe we should just squid it.....

223 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:59:23am

re: #214 Pietr

how about 'Blue Oyster Cult'-didn't they do Sole Survivor.....?

Shrimp Biskit?
Cod Stewart?
MC Hammerhead?

I enjoy their tunas!

224 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:00:18am

re: #222 Pietr

maybe we should just squid it.....

Maybe we otter.....

225 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:00:30am

re: #220 BlueCanuck

Blue! Good to see you too, the gang's all here! How's the job thing? I haven't caught any updates.

226 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:00:48am

re: #223 gmsc

Shrimp Biskit?
Cod Stewart?
MC Hammerhead?

I enjoy their tunas!

It's a whale of a meal.

227 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:01:04am

re: #222 Pietr

maybe we should just squid it.....

This is the dawning of the age of aquarium!

228 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:01:39am

re: #227 gmsc

This is the dawning of the age of aquarium!

Sorry but that was pretty crappie....
:)

229 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:01:49am

re: #227 gmsc

This is the dawning of the age of aquarium!

Hey! Put a Seal on it. //

230 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:02:10am

re: #222 Pietr

maybe we should just squid it.....

I tinacle to think we should keep trying.

231 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:03:11am

re: #230 AmeriDan

I tinacle to think we should keep trying.

I'm urchin us to keep going......

232 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:03:22am

re: #228 LGoPs

Sorry but that was pretty crappie....
:)

Carp a diem!

233 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:03:32am

re: #230 AmeriDan

I tinacle to think we should keep trying.

always wanting to be the starfish....

234 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:03:34am

re: #231 LGoPs

I'm urchin us to keep going......

Have you smelt the puns in this thread?

235 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:04:44am

re: #231 LGoPs

I'm urchin us to keep going......

We should otherwise we'll withdraw into a Shell.

236 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:04:50am

re: #232 Gus 802

Carp a noctum!

237 tsionguy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:05:08am

We seem to have come to loggerheads.

238 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:05:42am

Where's littleoldlady?

I lobster, then I flounder!

239 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:05:47am

re: #237 tsionguy

We seem to have come to loggerheads.

Nautilus!

240 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:06:01am

re: #225 pink freud

Still nothing. Haven't heard a single peep from the orfice.

241 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:06:05am

re: #236 pink freud

Carp a noctum!

Carp a dayum!

242 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:06:06am

re: #238 gmsc

Where's littleoldlady?

I lobster, then I flounder!

OOOH. Good one!

243 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:06:30am

re: #234 gmsc

Have you smelt the puns in this thread?

that's almost as bad as "Giant Shrimp"...but I'm being sardine-ic.....

244 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:06:32am

re: #240 BlueCanuck

Still nothing. Haven't heard a single peep from the orfice.

Haha! K, thanks for the update!

245 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:06:38am

re: #222 Pietr

maybe we should just squid it.....

Do you mean we should put lox on it?

246 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:07:32am

re: #245 gmsc

Do you mean we should put lox on it?

or just paint it coral...

247 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:07:53am

re: #246 Pietr

or just paint it coral...

Oh . . . my . . . cod!

248 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:08:25am

re: #247 gmsc

Oh . . . my . . . cod!

I might not have any Otter ideas. //

249 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:08:39am

re: #248 Gus 802

I might not have any Otter ideas. //

Holy mackerel!

250 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:08:52am

re: #247 gmsc

Oh . . . my . . . cod!

net around here you won't, it's fish or cut bait.....

251 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:09:15am

Look under her rock!

252 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:09:35am

re: #249 gmsc

Holy mackerel!

The Tide is turning!

253 rgswift  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:09:39am

This pun thread is too cutthroat!

254 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:09:48am

re: #250 Pietr

net around here you won't, it's fish or cut bait.....

Roe roe roe your boat ....

255 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:10:17am

re: #251 littleoldlady

GOOD MORNING! ;-)

256 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:10:23am

re: #251 littleoldlady

Look under her rock!

Ah HA! We finally lured her out. :)

257 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:10:58am

re: #251 littleoldlady

Look under her rock!

Good morning, littleoldlady!

You octopi a special place in our hearts.

258 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:11:11am

re: #254 pink freud

Roe roe roe your boat ....

your pun left me happy as a clam....

259 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:11:14am

These puns are like fish and visitors after three days.

Let's wrap them up in todays edition of the NYT's

Oh wait... no one subcribes to that anymore... nevermind.

Carry on.

260 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:11:20am

re: #254 pink freud

Roe roe roe your boat ....

You guys are krilling me with these puns.....

261 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:11:39am

re: #260 LGoPs

You guys are krilling me with these puns.....

Can I get that in whiting?

262 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:12:25am

re: #260 LGoPs

You guys are krilling me with these puns.....

Well we are just angling away, seeing what we can catch. Most of it is on a release basses

263 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:12:47am

re: #261 gmsc

Can I get that in whiting?

bet you thought too sucker us into taking the bait, huh?

264 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:13:27am

pink! :-)

Blue! :-)

/purple and orange and green...

re: #257 gmsc

gmsc! :-)

Oy.

;-)

265 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:13:31am

re: #261 gmsc

Can I get that in whiting?

If you can't get that in Whiting you might have to Tackle the problem first hand.

266 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:13:46am

When you say "Sea Kittens" I picture "Sea Kittens"..............meeoww......

267 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:14:07am

re: #263 Pietr

bet you thought too sucker us into taking the bait, huh?

This is getting a little too roughy for me......

268 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:14:30am

re: #251 littleoldlady

Look under her rock!

You have a rock? Must be nice, I have to cover myself with dead seakittens.

269 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:14:41am

re: #265 Gus 802

If you can't get that in Whiting you might have to Tackle the problem first hand.

Stop baiting him.....

270 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:15:01am

re: #267 LGoPs

This is getting a little too roughy for me......

Then you won't want to hear about my friend who smashes shrimp for a living.

He's a prawnbroker!

271 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:15:32am

re: #269 LGoPs

Stop baiting him.....

or take your swordfish in hand, and fight....

272 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:15:34am

And the "0"(pronounced zero) sea stimulus..........

273 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:15:56am

Okay that's it for me. I am hitting the rocks here. Stay scaly all.

274 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:15:57am

re: #270 gmsc

Then you won't want to hear about my friend who smashes shrimp for a living.

He's a prawnbroker!

ROTFLMAO......my laughing just woke my wife up. It's your fault.........

275 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:16:00am

re: #269 LGoPs

Stop baiting him.....

Just angling the waters and wading for ideas. //

276 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:16:20am

Dan! :-)

277 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:16:26am

re: #271 Pietr

or take your swordfish in hand, and fight....

With fronds like these, who needs anenomes?

278 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:16:37am

re: #273 BlueCanuck

Okay that's it for me. I am hitting the rocks here. Stay scaly all.

Night Blue.

279 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:16:58am

'Nite Blue!

280 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:17:00am

re: #275 Gus 802

Just angling the waters and wading for ideas. //

Ah Haa-caught you trolling again......

281 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:17:00am

re: #273 BlueCanuck

Okay that's it for me. I am hitting the rocks here. Stay scaly all.

Sleep well, BlueCanuck!

282 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:17:14am

re: #273 BlueCanuck

Okay that's it for me. I am hitting the rocks here. Stay scaly all.

Later.

283 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:17:31am

Littleoldlady, how has the world been treating you? (It better be good!)

284 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:18:07am

re: #273 BlueCanuck

G'night blue...Sea Dreams.......

285 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:18:07am

re: #280 Pietr

Ah Haa-caught you trolling again......

Listen Chum. //

286 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:19:04am

re: #276 littleoldlady

Dan! :-)

Hello dear littleoldlady. My friends call me Danny, and so should you.

287 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:19:37am

'Night, BlueCanuck! :-)

re: #283 pink freud

Littleoldlady, how has the world been treating you? (It better be good!)

Not particularily, no. :-(

/who (whom?) do I sue?

How's by you?

288 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:19:58am

re: #285 Gus 802

Listen Chum. //

don't try to crawfish out of this, or eel hurt ya....

289 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:20:02am

re: #185 LGoPs

LOL.......that was good
:)

You know who Dean Marlin was, don't you? He performed with Frank Finatra and Salmon Davis, Jr. – they were known as the Wet Pack!

290 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:20:10am

AmeriDanny?

/okay. if you say so...

291 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:20:39am

re: #288 Pietr

don't try to crawfish out of this, or eel hurt ya....

Oh, come on. You know that's a Red Herring. //

292 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:21:02am

re: #291 Gus 802

Oh, come on. You know that's a Red Herring. //

Maybe he just needs time to mullet over.

293 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:21:28am

I'd love to stay around but I gotta go to sleep. Thanks for the laughs. Night lizards........

294 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:21:53am

re: #290 littleoldlady

AmeriDanny?

/okay. if you say so...

Close enough, or you can just call me Danny.

295 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:22:26am

re: #293 LGoPs

Night, LGoPs....dream of steak and lobsters.....

296 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:22:45am

re: #293 LGoPs

I'd love to stay around but I gotta go to sleep. Thanks for the laughs. Night lizards........

'Night, LGoPs!

297 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:24:07am

re: #287 littleoldlady

I go back and forth between being pissed and being bummed at the mess that that [deleted] is making of my country.

The alarm in my son is at high levels. We talk a lot more about the world since the election.

Finals about to be breathing down my neck and I have research galore to do that I keep putting off. About to wrap up another semester. I seem to have lost my fire, though. (Well, at least for my chosen studies ....otherwise, my fire roars.)

All in all, things are GOOD. :-)

298 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:24:19am

I believe I'm feeling nauti-cal...maybe I need a schooner of beer.

299 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:24:30am

re: #293 LGoPs

I'd love to stay around but I gotta go to sleep. Thanks for the laughs. Night lizards........

The one that got away.

300 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:24:53am

re: #293 LGoPs

'Nite, LGoPs!

301 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:25:33am

re: #298 Pietr

I believe I'm feeling nauti-cal...maybe I need a schooner of beer.

Cutty Sark, perhaps?
Or Captain Morgan?

302 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:26:04am

re: #298 Pietr

I believe I'm feeling nauti-cal...maybe I need a schooner of beer.

That can Hoist up the spirits.

303 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:26:50am

re: #302 Gus 802

That can Hoist up the spirits.

Good idea. You can seaweed be so happy together.

304 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:27:02am

re: #301 gmsc

Cutty Sark, perhaps?
Or Captain Morgan?

that'd put me on the reef for sure, maybe leave me dinghy.....

305 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:27:46am

re: #304 Pietr

that'd put me on the reef for sure, maybe leave me dinghy.....

Land Ho!

306 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:29:06am

re: #305 AmeriDan

Land Ho!

Hang on, sloop-y....

307 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:29:36am

re: #305 AmeriDan

Land Ho!

Couldn't fathom that landlubber. Argh. //

308 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:30:08am

re: #297 pink freud

I've settled into permanently pissed, I think. I had to walk away from the TV yesterday when Obama came on.

/can't afford a new TV...

My daughter comes home a lot more often these days, and my brother te;;s me his 18 year old son may have a heart attack over this President.

/are we having fun yet?

309 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:31:12am

tells me

/she typed
//being pissed has risks ;-)

310 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:31:19am

On fox, cnn right now ....0bama speaking live to a sea of humanity, looks like tens of thousands ...in an open square in Prague. He is speaking as though he is the king of he world.

311 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:31:42am

re: #308 littleoldlady

I've settled into permanently pissed, I think. I had to walk away from the TV yesterday when Obama came on.

/can't afford a new TV...

My daughter comes home a lot more often these days, and my brother te;;s me his 18 year old son may have a heart attack over this President.

/are we having fun yet?

Just have to weather the gale. :)

312 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:33:01am

Back in a bit, if I don't take a league, I might founder....

313 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:33:05am

re: #308 littleoldlady

I've settled into permanently pissed, I think. I had to walk away from the TV yesterday when Obama came on.

/can't afford a new TV...

My daughter comes home a lot more often these days, and my brother te;;s me his 18 year old son may have a heart attack over this President.

/are we having fun yet?

My 19 year old also ....he says, "Mom, I don't know how much more of this I can handle." And he is serious. He has always been a laid back person. Now he loses sleep.

314 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:33:12am

re: #308 littleoldlady

I've settled into permanently pissed, I think. I had to walk away from the TV yesterday when Obama came on.

/can't afford a new TV...

My daughter comes home a lot more often these days, and my brother tells me his 18 year old son may have a heart attack over this President.

/are we having fun yet?

{ { { littleoldlady } } }

I'm not crazy about this president, but I keep telling myself we will get through this.

Unfortunately, an 18-year-old may not have sufficient references for such a belief.

315 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:34:43am

re: #312 Pietr

Back in a bit, if I don't take a league, I might founder....

No problem, we'll just toss you into the wetwell.

316 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:35:04am

re: #310 pink freud

On fox, cnn right now ....0bama speaking live to a sea of humanity, looks like tens of thousands ...in an open square in Prague. He is speaking as though he is the king of he world.

How can you watch that? What would the citizens of Prague know; they've been clueless since the Dark Ages.

//Sorry for being so serious.

317 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:35:18am

re: #314 gmsc


I'm not crazy about this president, but I keep telling myself we will get through this.

Unfortunately, an 18-year-old may not have sufficient references for such a belief.

Not only historical references, but support systems. A conservative, pro-military, pro-Israel 19 year old on any college campus these days is in the deep minority.

318 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:36:34am

re: #314 gmsc

I'm not crazy about this president, but I keep telling myself we will get through this.

I'm a [ahem!] bit older than 18, and I'm not so sure...

319 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:37:09am

re: #316 Gus 802

How can you watch that? What would the citizens of Prague know; they've been clueless since the Dark Ages.

//Sorry for being so serious.

I cannot watch it. Secondhand Lion ended, I was flipping through the channels and came across the same scene three or four times, enough so that I had to stop for a second to see what was going on. I cannot watch that man. He activates my gag reflex.

320 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:38:00am

re: #308 littleoldlady

I've settled into permanently pissed, I think. I had to walk away from the TV yesterday when Obama came on.

/can't afford a new TV...

My daughter comes home a lot more often these days, and my brother te;;s me his 18 year old son may have a heart attack over this President.

I can't even watch ESPN anymore. Every single sports or news or whatever revolves around how great the Obamas are.

321 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:38:04am

This goes back to what I posted earlier here.

re: #7 gmsc

"Folks are excited about Obama because, in essence, they don’t know what he stands for, and thus can read into him anything they want. Not since the breathless coverage of Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault has there been so much attention to something where we had no idea of what was inside. My bet is that the result with Obama will be the same as with the vault."
-Coyote Blog

322 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:38:58am

re: #321 gmsc

And THAT is how he got elected.

323 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:39:38am

re: #321 gmsc

"Rorschach candidate' was always a perfect description.

324 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:40:25am

re: #323 pink freud

"Rorschach candidate' was always a perfect description.

I've never heard that term before, but it fits perfectly!

325 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:40:47am

re: #319 pink freud

I cannot watch it. Secondhand Lion ended, I was flipping through the channels and came across the same scene three or four times, enough so that I had to stop for a second to see what was going on. I cannot watch that man. He activates my gag reflex.

That's a great movie. Love the low pass scene with the biplane. I rarely listen to Mayor Obama. He's surrounded with Chicago trash and the thought of David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel being in the White House disturbs me to no end.

326 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:41:02am

His strongly worded statement on the NorK situation has been released for tomorrow: [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

327 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:41:54am

re: #320 AmeriDan

Oops. I'll try again...

I've settled into permanently pissed, I think. I had to walk away from the TV yesterday when Obama came on.

/can't afford a new TV...

My daughter comes home a lot more often these days, and my brother te;;s me his 18 year old son may have a heart attack over this President.

And my reply...

I can't even watch ESPN anymore. Every single sports or news or whatever revolves around how great the Obamas are

328 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:42:50am

re: #326 pink freud

His strongly worded statement on the NorK situation has been released for tomorrow: [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

From the article:

In the speech, to be delivered later this morning, Obama will call for a renewed effort to halt the spread of nuclear weapons around the globe, keep terrorists from acquiring nuclear material and eventually rid the world of nuclear weapons completely.

Yeah, good luck with that.

329 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:43:58am

re: #326 pink freud

His strongly worded statement on the NorK situation has been released for tomorrow: [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Can't wait. More pablum from Obama. :) I can only guess that it will be full of passive/aggressive comments from a man that just learned how to ride a bicycle.

330 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:44:03am

re: #325 Gus 802

That's a great movie. Love the low pass scene with the biplane.

My favorite scene is the barroom brawl, when the four punks come in and pick on Duvall. The kid is freaking out, worried about his uncle, but the other uncle says 'just watch'. I must have seen this movie five times.

/that's 'comrade' 0bama

331 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:44:36am

re: #326 pink freud

His strongly worded statement on the NorK situation has been released for tomorrow: [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

I'm glad we got that pesky problem out of the way. Now we can all go back to sleep.

332 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:44:58am

re: #328 gmsc

The man is a complete and utter fool.

333 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:46:23am

re: #330 pink freud

My favorite scene is the barroom brawl, when the four punks come in and pick on Duvall. The kid is freaking out, worried about his uncle, but the other uncle says 'just watch'. I must have seen this movie five times.

/that's 'comrade' 0bama

Too true. I've noticed that before. A liberal friend is someone that wouldn't help you in a bar fight. They'll just watch and "discuss" the matter at a later date.

334 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:48:18am

re: #333 Gus 802

Too true. I've noticed that before. A liberal friend is someone that wouldn't help you in a bar fight. They'll just watch and "discuss" the matter at a later date.

Wait. What's a "liberal friend"?

335 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:49:32am

re: #334 pink freud

Wait. What's a "liberal friend"?

I've had liberal friends before. You're right. What are they? I don't know. I do know that they are far from loyal.

336 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:50:33am

re: #333 Gus 802

Too true. I've noticed that before. A liberal friend is someone that wouldn't help you in a bar fight. They'll just watch and "discuss" the matter at a later date.

True, but I've never understood the whole bar fight thing. What does it accomplice?

/love the movie though

337 Summer Seale  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:51:15am

Hey everyone, just posting a quick comment.

I read about the lounge closing just now, but the only time I ever visited it was to talk to Sharmuta in private chat once. Not really sure what use it had other than that really. =)

I also happened to just notice the top google ad is showing Ann Coulter.... Not sure if Charles is aware of that but I'm pretty sure he'd either smirk or want to change it or something.

338 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:52:34am

Whew, I really had to scuttle there; wound up pumping the bilge and sluicing the suppers, too boot. I had so many sea kittehs on deck, that I started looking for a cat-o-nine tails...

Oh, if any one is heading out-

wile yer out

339 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:53:28am

Oh boy. They're really getting creative now. I just got a MAILER-DAEMON in email that when I opened turned out to be a Viagra ad.

340 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:53:59am

re: #336 AmeriDan

True, but I've never understood the whole bar fight thing. What does it accomplice?

/love the movie though

My fault. I don't get into bar fights. I was just using that as an analogy. What I meant is that liberals don't believe in loyalty to a friend...

341 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:54:01am

re: #337 Summer

Hey Summer-we have no drive thru service, ya gotta get in the line like the rest of us lizards....:>))

342 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:54:32am

re: #337 Summer

the top google ad is showing Ann Coulter

That's money in Charles' pocket.

Full disclosure: I love Ann Coulter.

343 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:54:41am

re: #338 Pietr

PIMF-scuppers, not suppers...sheesh

344 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:55:31am

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards. Just a quick drive by waiting for Fruitcup. Waiting for the start of the Malaysian Grand Prix Race.

345 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:55:57am

re: #343 Pietr

PIMF-scuppers, not suppers...sheesh

If we start to sink just fire up the bilge pumps. //

346 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:56:47am

re: #340 Gus 802

My fault. I don't get into bar fights. I was just using that as an analogy. What I meant is that liberals don't believe in loyalty to a friend...

Analogy? I thought we were being literal tonight.

347 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:57:17am

re: #340 Gus 802

My fault. I don't get into bar fights. I was just using that as an analogy. What I meant is that liberals don't believe in loyalty to a friend...

Loyalty stems from an ability to discern, to make judgment calls, to choose. That's not in their repertoire.

Yes, yes ..I know ...generalizations. It's ok when speaking of libs, I have found.

348 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:58:48am

re: #344 Erik The Red

Hey Erik...

re: #346 AmeriDan

Analogy? I thought we were being literal tonight.

I thought we were being punny.....or pun-ished?

349 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:59:40am

re: #344 Erik The Red

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards. Just a quick drive by waiting for Fruitcup. Waiting for the start of the Malaysian Grand Prix Race.

Hi Eric.

350 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

351 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:00:38am

Did I spell everything right?

/coffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

352 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:01:02am

re: #350 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

WoOt!

353 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:01:16am

re: #350 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thankee, LoL....I'was running out of material, so a slight paws will do me good....

354 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:01:25am

re: #350 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks{LOL}

355 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:01:25am

re: #350 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you!

Fruitcup is yummy as always!

356 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:02:24am

re: #347 pink freud

Loyalty stems from an ability to discern, to make judgment calls, to choose. That's not in their repertoire.

Yes, yes ..I know ...generalizations. It's ok when speaking of libs, I have found.

Yes. It becomes a question of subjective versus objective. The latter is preferred.

357 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:02:41am

Danny! :-)

Pietr! :-)

Erik! :-)

gmsc! :-)

358 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:02:51am

re: #348 Pietr

Hey Erik...

re: #346 AmeriDan


I thought we were being punny.....or pun-ished?

That dog don't hunt fish.

359 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:03:12am

Don't nobody go anywhere!

/i haz an idea

360 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:03:51am

re: #359 littleoldlady

Don't nobody go anywhere!

/i haz an idea

Okay.

361 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:04:09am

re: #350 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Why thank you ma'am!

362 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:04:18am

re: #358 AmeriDan

That dog don't hunt fish.

Carefull-I has Sea Kittehs.....and I know how to use 'em.

363 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:04:57am

re: #362 Pietr

Carefull-I has Sea Kittehs.....and I know how to use 'em.

Kung Pao Kitten! :)

364 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:05:49am

re: #359 littleoldlady

Don't nobody go anywhere!

/i haz an idea

Staying put . . . and staying curious.

365 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:07:25am

re: #364 gmsc

Staying put . . . and staying curious.

Maybe LoL has some gamey troll buttocks on the BBQ.......

366 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:07:28am

re: #357 littleoldlady

Danny! :-)

Thank you.

367 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:09:34am

re: #362 Pietr

Carefull-I has Sea Kittehs.....and I know how to use 'em.

Put the seakittens down and step back slowly. Don't make me have to send a strongly worded letter to the UN.

368 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:10:26am

re: #364 gmsc

Staying put . . . and staying curious.

Yep. Here's a tune while we wait.

Ronny & The Daytonas - GTO

369 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:11:21am

So, I was thinking...

/ouch! ;-)

Much as I like the symbolic idea of the Tea Parties I don't think they will do much good. The MSM won't publish actual numbers of the crowds, if they cover the events at all. And April 15th is a work day. Not a lot of people can afford (or risk!) to take the day off.

Am I right so far?

Back when CAIR was shutting down sites and/or people, eliciting apologies left and right from anyone who "insulted" Islam, they were doing it with emails from just a few hundred people off their mailing lists. I kept saying that we could do the same thing to counteract, but NATURALLY nobody listened to me...

/stay tuned; Part II (with the actual idea) coming up...

370 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:12:22am

re: #367 AmeriDan

Put the seakittens down and step back slowly. Don't make me have to send a strongly worded letter to the UN.

Yeah, too early to tell. You never know. The Syrian cave peoples might have a word in edge wise.

371 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:17:18am

re: #370 Gus 802

Yeah, too early to tell. You never know. The Syrian cave peoples might have a word in edge wise.

Very wise. Everyone must be on board before we resort to such drastic measures as strongly worded letters.

Forgive me for my warmongering.

372 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:17:59am

Maybe while we wait.....a time for us:

373 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:19:14am

re: #371 AmeriDan

Very wise. Everyone must be on board before we resort to such drastic measures as strongly worded letters.

Forgive me for my warmongering.

Not a problem. I fight war mongering with war mongering.

374 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:20:32am

WHAT IF we were able to deliver to each Senator's office a petition (non-internet; hand signed)? It would just be a simple statement (or two or three statements) of belief, i.e.:

"We believe that The Constitution is the law of the land and no international or current government power can override the vision of the Founding Fathers...and yadda yadda."

"We believe in the private enterprise system and government ownership and control of major industries runs counter to American values...and yadda yadda."

Stuff like that.

/obviously, SOMEBODY ELSE needs to write this thing. ;-)

And WHAT IF we could deliver these petitions with ONE MILLION signatures to each and every senator? What if we used a multi-level marketing format to break this task into little bits, so that 100 people could get 100 other people to take 100 petitions to give to 100 other people to get 100 signatures?

/I think I have 1 100 too many in there, but anyway...

100 x 100 x 100 = 1,000,000 (right, gmsc?)

How powerful would that be?

375 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:21:47am

re: #373 Gus 802

Not a problem. I fight war mongering with war mongering.

I wish we could say that about our new fangled foreign policy.

376 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:22:18am

Oh, and with a P.S. at the bottom of the petition saying...

"Dear Senator _________, Please take this petition seriously. We wouldn't want you to become the poster child for term limits!"

j/k ;-)

377 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:23:16am

re: #374 littleoldlady

WHAT IF we were able to deliver to each Senator's office a petition (non-internet; hand signed)? It would just be a simple statement (or two or three statements) of belief, i.e.:

"We believe that The Constitution is the law of the land and no international or current government power can override the vision of the Founding Fathers...and yadda yadda."

"We believe in the private enterprise system and government ownership and control of major industries runs counter to American values...and yadda yadda."

Stuff like that.

/obviously, SOMEBODY ELSE needs to write this thing. ;-)

And WHAT IF we could deliver these petitions with ONE MILLION signatures to each and every senator? What if we used a multi-level marketing format to break this task into little bits, so that 100 people could get 100 other people to take 100 petitions to give to 100 other people to get 100 signatures?

/I think I have 1 100 too many in there, but anyway...

100 x 100 x 100 = 1,000,000 (right, gmsc?)

How powerful would that be?

Yes, 1003 is 1,000,000.

I like that idea! And if there were ever a time to get the statement going, this is definitely it!

378 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:25:49am

re: #374 littleoldlady

Maybe RW, lawhawk, or some of our legal wizards could handle the wording? Plus we'd need to know exactly what info any signer needed to provide to make it legal in each state.....

379 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:28:03am

re: #376 littleoldlady

Ok, I can do my part. I'd walk my neighborhoods and stop every student that crosses my path on the quad and pass out as many as I can to others to get started. Now we need a petition.

However, I see nothing wrong with supplementing the hand-signed petitions with an internet petition. Those things catch on like wild fire once they get going.

/the upside is that the kooks that are starting to invade the tea parties wouldn't be granted a visible presence (and, they could still sign the petition)

380 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:28:24am

re: #377 gmsc

You do?! You like it?

We need to keep political parties out of it, as well as abortion, creationism, and the rest of that kind of chazzerei.

re: #378 Pietr

Home address, maybe phone #, in this state.

Think about it....50 million signatures.

381 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:29:20am

re: #378 Pietr

Good idea ...and you just know realwest would throw his all behind something like this.

382 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:29:37am

re: #374 littleoldlady

That sounds like a lot of work. Let's just let our elected Representatives know how we, as individuals, feel. Stop laughing, it could work, or else we vote for someone else.

383 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:30:19am

re: #379 pink freud

The hard part might be getting that second 100 people who have to convince 100 other people to take petitions around. But perhaps breaking it down into smaller chunks will solve that.

/I refuse to do the math...

384 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:30:55am

re: #382 AmeriDan

Danny. They're not listening....

385 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:30:57am

re: #380 littleoldlady

It's doable.

386 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:31:13am

re: #383 littleoldlady

The hard part might be getting that second 100 people who have to convince 100 other people to take petitions around. But perhaps breaking it down into smaller chunks will solve that.

/I refuse to do the math...

You mean more like 1000 * 100 * 10, instead of 100 * 100 * 100? (Same result)

387 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:32:48am

re: #386 gmsc

Yeah.

/I guess ;-)

The original 1000/per state would be easiest to get. But a load of 10 signature petitions? Well, it would be graphic, wouldn't it?

388 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:32:53am

I'm going to have to let everyone else mull this over.

I've got to get some sleep before work tomorrow. Good night, all!

389 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:33:17am

re: #383 littleoldlady

The hard part might be getting that second 100 people who have to convince 100 other people to take petitions around. But perhaps breaking it down into smaller chunks will solve that.

/I refuse to do the math...

That's why I say we need internet coordination. I easily have a hundred people on my email list that would hopefully send it along to everyone on their email list.

(I know I am partially pulling away from your hand-signed idea, but why not enlist every avenue available.)

390 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:33:37am

re: #388 gmsc

Goodnight gmsc, sleep well. :-)

391 Gus  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:33:48am

Goodnight all. You never fail to impress me.

392 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:34:58am

re: #391 Gus 802

Goodnight gus! 'weet dreams :-)

393 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:35:50am

re: #389 pink freud

Oh sure! Recruiting on the internet is great. And we could print out the petition just as easily, and set them up state by state, too. But all the online petitions I've seen have ended up full of phony info.

Plus I think our elected idiots need to see PAPER.

394 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:36:23am

'Night, gmsc and Gus! :-)

395 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:38:58am

pink,

In fact, putting the petition online in pdf format would make it easier to find and get to people who would print it out and get the actual signatures.

/you're BRILLIANT!

396 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:39:36am

re: #387 littleoldlady

L-O-L ...I am about to crash here also, hate to leave you alone with your brand spanking new idea, but I LIKE IT, and I will help.

Reine and I are supposed to attend the one in Baton Rouge, but I am having doubts. (The kkyouknowwho is alive and well in south Louisiana)

This type of thing, though ....I will push hard. I think the next step is like Pietr said, talk to lawhawk or realwest and get something sturdy drawn up. Talk to tfk about it too.

I will look for word of it tomorrow in the threads. In fact, I will repost your idea a few times in-thread tomorrow if you'd like.

397 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:41:04am

re: #384 littleoldlady

Danny. They're not listening....

Good point, but it's more in the message getting bogged down with the MSM and their lackeys in the Democrat Party- or is it the other way around- talking points than anything else.

Your idea has merit in that it involves talking to the real mainstream of American people. So OK, I'll help.

398 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:41:08am

re: #393 littleoldlady

Oh sure! Recruiting on the internet is great. And we could print out the petition just as easily, and set them up state by state, too. But all the online petitions I've seen have ended up full of phony info.

Plus I think our elected idiots need to see PAPER.

Yes! Great idea. Spread the word through the internet with printable forms. I would think there may be enough leader-types in the member-rolls here to get this thing spread far and wide.

399 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:42:41am

re: #388 gmsc

re: #391 Gus 802

Good night.

400 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:44:00am

re: #398 pink freud

oh my gosh! its nearly 5! I'm out, littleoldlady, I will spread your idea tomorrow.

Have a wonderful day!

401 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:44:22am

re: #396 pink freud

I will look for word of it tomorrow in the threads. In fact, I will repost your idea a few times in-thread tomorrow if you'd like.

Thanks! :-)

It was just a nugget of an idea. I was hoping that the smarter and better connected among us would run with it...

402 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:45:05am

re: #401 littleoldlady

Welcome! 'nite :-)

403 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:45:19am

Good night, pink! :-)

/always a treat to see you!

404 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:46:38am

re: #401 littleoldlady

Thanks! :-)

It was just a nugget of an idea. I was hoping that the smarter and better connected among us would run with it...

Heh, like there's anyone smarter than us here on the LNDT!

405 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:48:49am

re: #404 AmeriDan

Heh, like of course there is!

I just get an occasion flash of brilliance.

/usually quite painful ;-)

406 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:49:21am

re: #402 pink freud

I would wish you a good night, but I did it earlier. Use the raincheck. ;)

407 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:49:25am

occasional

/sheesh
//good thing goddess isn't here!

408 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:52:28am

re: #405 littleoldlady

Heh, like of course there is!

I just get an occasion flash of brilliance.

/usually quite painful ;-)

I feel your pain. I too suffer from occasion(al) bouts of brillance. If it last for over four hours... I seek medical attention.

409 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:54:54am

re: #408 AmeriDan

Bwahaha!

/YOU should have received that email I got earlier.
//I CAN forward it... ;-)

410 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:00:34am

re: #409 littleoldlady

//I CAN forward it... ;-)


No need to. I received an email today that should make me into a real brilliant stud, and I'll make lots of money.

What could go wrong?

411 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:04:38am

Sorry, I stepped out to smoke-and I've been using that time for prayer for those on the prayer list, including my family members. I sort of went long tonight......if I hadn't, I'd have had everyone save your posts (part 1 and 2) to throw it to the other lizards.

412 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:06:36am

re: #411 Pietr

Sorry, I stepped out to smoke-and I've been using that time for prayer for those on the prayer list, including my family members. I sort of went long tonight......if I hadn't, I'd have had everyone save your posts (part 1 and 2) to throw it to the other lizards.

My prayers go out to everyone on the prayer list also,

413 AmeriDan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:08:46am

It's bed time for me. Good night littleoldlady and Pietr.

See ya 'round.

414 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:10:39am

LoL, you mentioned goddess...if my time sense isn't to far off, she normally appears within the next 1/2 hour; of course that is weekdays, and today is Sunday. I'm not sure if she maintains her schedule on weekends, but I always found a routine hard to break.....

415 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:11:38am

re: #413 AmeriDan

G'night, AmeriDan....may the Lord bless and keep you safe....

416 freetoken  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:12:45am

re: #384 littleoldlady

Danny. They're not listening....

Seem to remember that during the immigration battle that GWB set off a year or so ago (or was it 2 years ago?), that comments by politicians indicated that the overwhelming amount of telephone calls received (apparently continuous jamming of phone lines) were influential.

If somehow you could get 1 million people to all telephone their Representatives and Senators on a single day, maybe it would make a statement?

417 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:18:19am

'Night, Danny! :-)

re: #416 freetoken

Jam the phone lines. Would it work? I don't know. We could do it in junction with the petitions - on the same day they're delivered(?)

/shell-shocked senators!
//I LIKE IT.

freetoken! :-)

418 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:21:16am

re: #416 freetoken

If the petition included info for each state individually, that might work as a 2 pronged attack. A million per state would be even better, but missing that goal wouldn't be a failure, IMHO. We takes what we cans.....

419 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:36:07am

Kewl.

I haven't killed a perfectly good thread in a long time.

/nice to know I haven't lost my touch...

420 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:44:00am

It ain't dead yet-I stepped out to feed my feral kitties. At least 3 are preggo, and I think 2 have litters somewhere already-plus what's left of their previous litters. All come by to feed, and because they know they're welcome. Oops, forgot one of my 2 indoor tortoiseshells pointed out that their bowls were empty-BRB.

421 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:47:14am

re: #420 Pietr

CatFactory!

422 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:53:04am

re: #421 littleoldlady

CatFactory!

Ohh nooeesss-LoL showed me the video store....now I'll never get my chicken cordon bleu started today.

423 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:54:06am

re: #422 Pietr

I'm stuck there, too!

/ACK!
//TONS of Passover cleaning to do!

424 SteveC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:55:42am

Good morning, all!

425 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 3:58:38am

Hiya, Steve! :-)

426 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:04:25am

re: #424 SteveC

Good morning, all!

G'morning SteveC.............don't visit LoL's 421-it's addictive.......:>))

427 SteveC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:04:55am

I was beginning to wonder if this thing was plugged in!

Everything is looking good in South Carolina this morning - it's going to be 81 degrees! *Happy Dance*

And SHAME on those who shat on the Lounge and got the place shut down! Thanks to them, we can't have nice things!

428 SteveC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:06:50am

BRB - If I don't move these empty cans of A&W I can't see the screen.

429 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:11:36am

More cats....

cat factory-the sequel

430 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:13:04am

re: #429 Pietr

You are WAI behindz me!

/this is NOT good!

431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:18:13am

re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin

"Give 'em the old "Razzle Dazzle":

Razzle Dazzle? We don't need no steenkin' Razzle Dazzle...

432 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:26:50am

Good Morning LGF.

The POTUS has declared the NK missile launch to be a provocative act and urged "North Korea to abide fully by the resolutions of the U.N. Security Council and to refrain from further provocative actions."

Doesn't being an impotent sole superpower just totally suck?///

433 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:28:44am

re: #432 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.

The POTUS has declared the NK missile launch to be a provocative act and urged "North Korea to abide fully by the resolutions of the U.N. Security Council and to refrain from further provocative actions."

Doesn't being an impotent sole superpower just totally suck?///

Oh noez. Ah betz dey skeered.

434 Mithrax  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:35:07am

re: #433 MandyManners

Oh noez. Ah betz dey skeered.

Oh no! Hans Blix!

Sorry, someone had to :P

435 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:36:05am

re: #433 MandyManners

Oh noez. Ah betz dey skeered.

The little Chinese puppet is shaking in his little commie boots.
.
.
...uh, I meant Kim Jong Il...honest./

436 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:37:16am

re: #434 Mithrax

Oh no! Hans Blix!

Sorry, someone had to :P

For some reason, both he and Mohamed El Baradei remind me of Grima Wormtongue.

437 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:38:09am

re: #435 Spare O'Lake

The little Chinese puppet is shaking in his little commie boots.
.
.
...uh, I meant Kim Jong Il...honest./

If he were to die suddenly, who would replace him?

438 SteveC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:40:45am

re: #432 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.

The POTUS has declared the NK missile launch to be a provocative act and urged "North Korea to abide fully by the resolutions of the U.N. Security Council and to refrain from further provocative actions." said, "I will instantly promote the Soldier, Sailor, Marine, or Pilot who brings me that North Korean bastards nuts in a Mason jar."

/I wish.

439 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:44:40am

re: #437 MandyManners

If he were to die suddenly, who would replace him?

Hu.
Hu?
Hu.

440 Pietr  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:45:08am

Day shift has arrived....Pietr will sink beneath the sand now.....laters, all.

441 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:52:34am

Anyone think that maybe Iran (or Pakistan or Syria or Hexbollah or Hamas) might be interested in getting their stinking mitts on a few of those NK ballistic missiles?

442 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:54:35am

Things are quiet here this morning. Everyone sleeping it off this am? :)

443 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:57:31am

Is there any merit in the Taliban claiming responsibility for the NY killing. I have read that a Vietnamese immigrant was the shooter. Seems a bit funny to me.

444 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:57:55am

re: #442 Erik The Red

Things are quiet here this morning. Everyone sleeping it off this am? :)

I must have BO.
bbl

445 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:58:56am

re: #439 Spare O'Lake

Hu.
Hu?
Hu.

I just love that title "Paramount Leader". Kinda' betrays their alleged beliefs in equality.

446 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:02:13am

re: #432 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.

The POTUS has declared the NK missile launch to be a provocative act and urged "North Korea to abide fully by the resolutions of the U.N. Security Council and to refrain from further provocative actions."

Doesn't being an impotent sole superpower just totally suck?///

Good morning, Lizards.

From The One's POV, no, actually. He gets to be "concerned" without actually doing anything. Which is about what I'd expect from someone famed for voting "Present" more often in a shorter time than anyone else in the history of the U.S. Senate.

Actually, I have to admire his mental agility. He has, in fact, figured out a way to say that things are "still above his pay grade" from the highest office in the land.

I predict that for his next trick, he'll put a sign on his desk saying "The Buck Stops... Over There, Somewhere", with an arrow pointing vaguely in the direction of the window.

Besides, he can't be concerned with fiddling little details like Lil' Kim's nuclear playtoys- he's too busy being brilliant in his handling of the crisis in the U.S. economy that he helped create has to solve to remake the world in his own weird image save the nation from itself bankruptcy.

//// in case you couldn't guess

cheers

eon

447 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:03:19am

re: #441 Spare O'Lake

Anyone think that maybe Iran (or Pakistan or Syria or Hexbollah or Hamas) might be interested in getting their stinking mitts on a few of those NK ballistic missiles?

Nevah!

Who has nukes now? U.S., Britain, France, Israel, Russia, India, Pakistan and China. Anyone else?

448 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:05:02am

re: #446 eon

I think someone double-dosed on the Sarcasm Pill this morning.

449 golem786  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:05:46am

Nice to see the original treasure quote, rather than the later Blazing Saddles version. (:->

450 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:07:17am

re: #448 MandyManners

I think someone double-dosed on the Sarcasm Pill this morning.

Very probably, as Trillian would say.

How are you this fine morning?

/and that's not sarc :-)

cheers

eon

451 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:11:06am

re: #442 Erik The Red

Things are quiet here this morning. Everyone sleeping it off this am? :)

I've been chasing down a wasp. I came into the kitchen yesterday and saw that The Kid had one of the back doors wide open. He was standing there with his tennis racket, vowing to fight off any wasps or bees that dared to enter his domain.

I'm also baby-sitting his new pet, a caterpillar he named "J.J.". He thinks if he keeps it long enough, it'll turn into a butterfly.

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm gonna' get him a duckling for Easter. They're not sold around here for that purpose but, I know a few farmers who have them. We got ducklings and chicks for Easter when we were kids and raised them into fine fowls.

452 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:13:31am

re: #449 golem786

Nice to see the original treasure quote, rather than the later Blazing Saddles version. (:->

Guaranteed to send a young boy into fits of laughter.


453 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:13:54am

re: #450 eon

I'm finer than a frog's hair split three ways!

How're you?

454 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:17:31am

re: #451 MandyManners

I've been chasing down a wasp. I came into the kitchen yesterday and saw that The Kid had one of the back doors wide open. He was standing there with his tennis racket, vowing to fight off any wasps or bees that dared to enter his domain.

I'm also baby-sitting his new pet, a caterpillar he named "J.J.". He thinks if he keeps it long enough, it'll turn into a butterfly.

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm gonna' get him a duckling for Easter. They're not sold around here for that purpose but, I know a few farmers who have them. We got ducklings and chicks for Easter when we were kids and raised them into fine fowls.

Great idea. Roast duck is fantastic. Should be a good size by Christmas :)

455 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:17:35am

re: #451 MandyManners

I've been chasing down a wasp. I came into the kitchen yesterday and saw that The Kid had one of the back doors wide open. He was standing there with his tennis racket, vowing to fight off any wasps or bees that dared to enter his domain.

I'm also baby-sitting his new pet, a caterpillar he named "J.J.". He thinks if he keeps it long enough, it'll turn into a butterfly.

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm gonna' get him a duckling for Easter. They're not sold around here for that purpose but, I know a few farmers who have them. We got ducklings and chicks for Easter when we were kids and raised them into fine fowls.

When I was a kid we raised Muscovy ducks. Cute ducklings that grew up into some of the strangest-looking birds, with the weirdest call ever heard in Ohio.

/Good eggs, and great roast duck, though

cheers

eon

456 UncleRancher  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:18:34am

re: #452 MandyManners

Guaranteed to send a young boy into fits of laughter.

I guess I'm still a young boy!

G'mornin' Lizards!

457 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:20:43am

re: #454 Erik The Red

Great idea. Roast duck is fantastic. Should be a good size by Christmas :)

*whackwhackwhackwhack*

458 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:22:23am

re: #455 eon

When I was a kid we raised Muscovy ducks. Cute ducklings that grew up into some of the strangest-looking birds, with the weirdest call ever heard in Ohio.

/Good eggs, and great roast duck, though

cheers

eon

*whackwhackwhackwhack*

459 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:23:10am

re: #456 UncleRancher

I guess I'm still a young boy!

G'mornin' Lizards!

That's the only scene from the movie I'll let him see.

460 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:26:28am

re: #453 MandyManners

I'm finer than a frog's hair split three ways!

How're you?

I'm good. Finally getting over my winter case of sinusitis- I think.

The new electrical lead-in, meter, and breakers are in, up, and running. 200 amp system- I've got what qualifies as a commercial-grade hookup around here. And since I'm now only paying for one meter instead of two, I'm saving about sixty bucks a year just from that.

The contractor got a look at some of my neighbors' hookups while he was at it, just from my back deck. My old one was about average for the block- he's figuring he'll be getting calls to do more updates. (The typical house around here has computers, automatic garage door openers, etc., all running off of 60 amp wiring, and a 100-amp lead-in dating to the 1950s.)

Spring is trying to sprong around here, but we still have overnight temps in the thirties forecast for next week. So everyone's holding off on putting their plants out. The grass is growing, though- fast.

/Lawnmower time

cheers

eon

461 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:27:23am

re: #458 MandyManners

*whackwhackwhackwhack*

*ow ow ow ow ow*

:-)

cheers

eon

462 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:27:47am

re: #460 eon

Where do you live eon? Just being nosy. =)

463 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:30:55am

re: #462 Wishing

Where do you live eon? Just being nosy. =)

Lancaster, OH, 20 miles SE of the state capital, Columbus.

Home of General William Tecumseh Sherman- in fact, the Sherman House Museum is about four blocks from my house.

/No, it's not a good idea to admit you're from around here anywhere in Georgia, especially not around Atlanta.

cheers

eon

464 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:34:29am

re: #436 MandyManners

For some reason, both he and Mohamed El Baradei remind me of Grima Wormtongue.

Actually, those two are blathering idiots. This was Wormtongue.
Good Morning LIzards!

465 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:34:57am

Hiya, Lizardia.

I'm supposed to be getting in the mood for Passover with the pre-Passover "slavery" reenactment, cleaning my house from top to bottom. Today is the "Bataan Death March" of kitchen cleaning. Let's see, I left the oven on "self clean" cycle last night and did the fridge last week.

I have to do the stove top and the counters, and put away all the pots, pans dishes & utensils.

No kids at home, makes it easier in some ways and more difficult in other ways. When I did have teenage kids living at home, I could assign them all the back-breaking cleaning chores while I luxuriated at my full time job. So much has changed.

466 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:37:11am

re: #465 Alouette

Hiya, Lizardia.

I'm supposed to be getting in the mood for Passover with the pre-Passover "slavery" reenactment, cleaning my house from top to bottom. Today is the "Bataan Death March" of kitchen cleaning. Let's see, I left the oven on "self clean" cycle last night and did the fridge last week.

I have to do the stove top and the counters, and put away all the pots, pans dishes & utensils.

No kids at home, makes it easier in some ways and more difficult in other ways. When I did have teenage kids living at home, I could assign them all the back-breaking cleaning chores while I luxuriated at my full time job. So much has changed.

I keep Passover too and haven't even begun the clean. I think I will have a busy few days!

467 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:38:04am

Quick question. I need to get up an email address for when I get to the US. I will not not have a phone company at first. What is the best one. I have a Yahoo email but am not a fan of yahoo.

468 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:38:18am

re: #460 eon

The pear trees are now green but, the tulips are blooming here, as are the dogwoods and redbuds. Right now the birds are in full force. I love Spring.

469 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:38:40am

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh. I uh...well...I don't exactly see, but I sort of...

Is it me, or are PETA's campaigns getting weirder?

It's not you. Ingrid Newkirk, their deranged leader, recently floated a plan to sell tofu made with George Clooney's sweat.

No, really. I'm not kidding. How could I make something like that up?

[Link: silverscorpio.com...]

470 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:38:47am

re: #467 Erik The Red

Quick question. I need to get up an email address for when I get to the US. I will not not have a phone company at first. What is the best one. I have a Yahoo email but am not a fan of yahoo.

Google gmail.

471 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:38:52am

re: #467 Erik The Red

Quick question. I need to get up an email address for when I get to the US. I will not not have a phone company at first. What is the best one. I have a Yahoo email but am not a fan of yahoo.

I think gmail is safer, but not many people like google.

472 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:39:15am

re: #465 Alouette

Hiya, Lizardia.

I'm supposed to be getting in the mood for Passover with the pre-Passover "slavery" reenactment, cleaning my house from top to bottom. Today is the "Bataan Death March" of kitchen cleaning. Let's see, I left the oven on "self clean" cycle last night and did the fridge last week.

I have to do the stove top and the counters, and put away all the pots, pans dishes & utensils.

No kids at home, makes it easier in some ways and more difficult in other ways. When I did have teenage kids living at home, I could assign them all the back-breaking cleaning chores while I luxuriated at my full time job. So much has changed.

Cancel passover this year///

473 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:39:28am

re: #468 MandyManners

The pear trees are now green but, the tulips are blooming here, as are the dogwoods and redbuds. Right now the birds are in full force. I love Spring.

My favorite season. I even love the rain.

cheers

eon

474 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:39:54am

re: #464 Macker

Actually, those two are blathering idiots. This was Wormtongue.
Good Morning LIzards!

What does it for me is the grovelling those bastards do.

475 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:40:04am

re: #472 Erik The Red

Cancel passover this year///

Next year in Miami Beach!
///

476 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:40:30am

re: #82 gmsc

If fish are sea kittens now, what do we call catfish? dogfish? "Chicken of the Sea" Tuna?

Is it now OK to throw kittens into a river?

Does this sea kitten stupidity mean PETA has jumped the shark?

See above, and their Clooney-flavored tofu plan.

Clooney, it should be noted, is not on board with this idea.

477 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:40:58am

re: #465 Alouette

Hiya, Lizardia.

I'm supposed to be getting in the mood for Passover with the pre-Passover "slavery" reenactment, cleaning my house from top to bottom. Today is the "Bataan Death March" of kitchen cleaning. Let's see, I left the oven on "self clean" cycle last night and did the fridge last week.

I have to do the stove top and the counters, and put away all the pots, pans dishes & utensils.

No kids at home, makes it easier in some ways and more difficult in other ways. When I did have teenage kids living at home, I could assign them all the back-breaking cleaning chores while I luxuriated at my full time job. So much has changed.

Sweeping all those breadcrumbs out of the cupboards with a feather and a candle is a real chore for an old fart a mature person, eh? ;D

478 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:41:02am

re: #467 Erik The Red

Quick question. I need to get up an email address for when I get to the US. I will not not have a phone company at first. What is the best one. I have a Yahoo email but am not a fan of yahoo.

Why not just use your current ISP?

479 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:41:05am

re: #470 Alouette

re: #471 Wishing

Thanks that was going to be my choice. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something else better out there.

480 JacksonTn  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:41:12am

re: #468 MandyManners

The pear trees are now green but, the tulips are blooming here, as are the dogwoods and redbuds. Right now the birds are in full force. I love Spring.

Mandy ... Happy Easter ... a Dogwood Winter ... we are suppose to get freezing weather Monday and Tuesday ...

481 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:41:28am

re: #82 gmsc

If fish are sea kittens now, what do we call catfish? dogfish? "Chicken of the Sea" Tuna?

Is it now OK to throw kittens into a river?

Does this sea kitten stupidity mean PETA has jumped the shark?

PETA always lets the shark jump them.

482 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:41:41am

re: #469 SixDegrees

It's not you. Ingrid Newkirk, their deranged leader, recently floated a plan to sell tofu made with George Clooney's sweat.

No, really. I'm not kidding. How could I make something like that up?

[Link: silverscorpio.com...]

Ugh. If anything ever qualified as Too Much Information, that's it.

/Time out for brain bleach- make it a double

cheers

eon

483 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:42:02am

re: #479 Erik The Red

re: #471 Wishing

Thanks that was going to be my choice. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something else better out there.

Where are you currently located? In the UK?

484 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:43:07am

re: #478 MandyManners

Why not just use your current ISP?

S African based. Don't know if I can. I will still have to pay the bill here and it has a cap of 9 gig that I pay about $80.00 a month on.

485 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:44:16am

re: #473 eon

My favorite season. I even love the rain.

cheers

eon

When the leaves are changing in the fall, I remind myself repeatedly that winter is just a time for the Earth to sleep.

Still, if I didn't have a bunch of relatives in America, I'd pack The Kid up every October and move to South America, and move back here in March. However, Spring started in early, early March so I'd miss out on the early bloomers.

486 UncleRancher  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:44:52am

re: #471 Wishing

My kids use gmail. I use yahoo and my local ISP. Never tried gmail myself. Yahoo works OK but is awkward. I've had that account for many years but use only occasionally.

487 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:45:34am

re: #480 JacksonTn

Mandy ... Happy Easter ... a Dogwood Winter ... we are suppose to get freezing weather Monday and Tuesday ...

Oh, no! In Tennessee?

488 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:45:59am

Did you all see this?
Blair for President!

489 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:46:34am

re: #487 MandyManners

Oh, no! In Tennessee?

Snow predicted in NE TN on Tuesday.

490 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:47:06am

re: #484 Erik The Red

S African based. Don't know if I can. I will still have to pay the bill here and it has a cap of 9 gig that I pay about $80.00 a month on.

I'm stumped.

491 JacksonTn  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:47:10am

re: #487 MandyManners

Oh, no! In Tennessee?

yes ... hope it is not too bad ... everything is beginning to bloom ... when blooms are here and it freezes hard enough to kill blooms ... no fruit ... keeping fingers crossed ... a couple years ago we lost major crops to late Easter freeze ...

492 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:47:59am

re: #487 MandyManners

Oh, no! In Tennessee?

Here in southern Michigan, they're calling for 6 to 10 inches of snow between now and tomorrow night. We're right on the edge of the "snow" part; it's as likely we'll get rain. But who knows?

Global warming just isn't working out. Damn it.

493 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:48:13am

re: #489 Wishing

Snow predicted in NE TN on Tuesday.

Oh, the mountains. I hope it's a very little snow. When do the azaleas bloom?

494 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:48:16am

re: #491 JacksonTn

yes ... hope it is not too bad ... everything is beginning to bloom ... when blooms are here and it freezes hard enough to kill blooms ... no fruit ... keeping fingers crossed ... a couple years ago we lost major crops to late Easter freeze ...

I lost some young trees! But I don't think this will be a hard frost, 30's only.

495 JacksonTn  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:49:03am

re: #494 Wishing

I lost some young trees! But I don't think this will be a hard frost, 30's only.

Wishing ... let's both keep our fingers crossed ...

496 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:49:08am

re: #493 MandyManners

Oh, the mountains. I hope it's a very little snow. When do the azaleas bloom?

Azaleas? Hmm, not for a while yet. Wait, do I know what an azalea is?

497 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:49:26am

re: #491 JacksonTn

yes ... hope it is not too bad ... everything is beginning to bloom ... when blooms are here and it freezes hard enough to kill blooms ... no fruit ... keeping fingers crossed ... a couple years ago we lost major crops to late Easter freeze ...

Maybe I'm forgetting but, I don't recall such a thing when I lived near Johnson City when I was a teen.

498 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:49:27am

re: #485 MandyManners

When the leaves are changing in the fall, I remind myself repeatedly that winter is just a time for the Earth to sleep.

Still, if I didn't have a bunch of relatives in America, I'd pack The Kid up every October and move to South America, and move back here in March. However, Spring started in early, early March so I'd miss out on the early bloomers.

I've lived here all my life. Every now and then I think about a warmer climate, or one more "scenic" (my idea of "scenic" starts with Monument Valley, and ends with someplace like Huntsville or White Sands or the Cape), but in the end, I'll stick to Ohio.

/After all, the National Museum of the United States Air Force is only a two-hour drive away.

cheers

eon

499 UncleRancher  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:49:49am

re: #491 JacksonTn

yes ... hope it is not too bad ... everything is beginning to bloom ... when blooms are here and it freezes hard enough to kill blooms ... no fruit ... keeping fingers crossed ... a couple years ago we lost major crops to late Easter freeze ...

Algore says this is NOT supposed to be happening. Must be something wrong with the weatherman. We got 5" new snow last week.

500 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:49:58am

With Tony Blair pres of the EU...and Obama pres of the US, what possibly could go wrong?

501 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:51:30am

re: #492 SixDegrees

Here in southern Michigan, they're calling for 6 to 10 inches of snow between now and tomorrow night. We're right on the edge of the "snow" part; it's as likely we'll get rain. But who knows?

Global warming just isn't working out. Damn it.

I suppose it could be worse--you could be living in an area that has a lot of Spring thunderstorms and tornadoes.

I remember years ago when a tornado on Easter hit a church in Alabama. IIRC, the precher's daughter was killed.

502 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:51:38am

re: #497 MandyManners

Maybe I'm forgetting but, I don't recall such a thing when I lived near Johnson City when I was a teen.


Flowers are all in bloom here, trees are now past the flowers, so it really is spring, just having some freak late snow.

503 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:52:17am

re: #498 eon

I've lived here all my life. Every now and then I think about a warmer climate, or one more "scenic" (my idea of "scenic" starts with Monument Valley, and ends with someplace like Huntsville or White Sands or the Cape), but in the end, I'll stick to Ohio.

/After all, the National Museum of the United States Air Force is only a two-hour drive away.

cheers

eon

My Aunty and Uncle still live in Lorain. My birth city. They have been talking about moving south for as long as I can remember. I left Lorain for Africa in 83. I am moving "south" when I return in June.

504 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:52:39am

re: #498 eon

/After all, the National Museum of the United States Air Force is only a two-hour drive away.


Everybody needs to tour that place. When you see the history of aviation laid out the way it is there, it's simply awesome!

505 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:52:54am

re: #496 Wishing

Azaleas? Hmm, not for a while yet. Wait, do I know what an azalea is?

It's a colorful bush--reddish/purplish. Now that I think about it, they bloom in June.

506 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:53:56am

re: #498 eon

I've lived here all my life. Every now and then I think about a warmer climate, or one more "scenic" (my idea of "scenic" starts with Monument Valley, and ends with someplace like Huntsville or White Sands or the Cape), but in the end, I'll stick to Ohio.

/After all, the National Museum of the United States Air Force is only a two-hour drive away.

cheers

eon

You're a Buckeye!

507 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:54:25am

re: #492 SixDegrees

Global warming just isn't working out. Damn it.


That's just the trouble.
You can't count on it.

508 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:55:28am

re: #502 Wishing

Flowers are all in bloom here, trees are now past the flowers, so it really is spring, just having some freak late snow.

I remember spring snows in Denver. They did massive damage to trees if you didn't go outside every hour and beat the snow off the trees with a rake.

509 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:56:15am

re: #508 MandyManners

I remember spring snows in Denver. They did massive damage to trees if you didn't go outside every hour and beat the snow off the trees with a rake.

Spring snows = poor man's fertilizer.

510 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:56:50am

re: #500 Wishing

With Tony Blair pres of the EU...and Obama pres of the US, what possibly could go wrong?

There are four different "Presidents" in the EU;

Presidency of the European Council

President of the European Economic Commission

President of the European Union Parliament

President of the European Defense Committee (aka NATO chairman)

and Blair isn't any of them.

The only thing he's President of AFAIK is his own fan club.

/Which I believe he is the only member of, as well.

//

cheers

eon

511 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:56:56am

re: #492 SixDegrees

Here in southern Michigan, they're calling for 6 to 10 inches of snow between now and tomorrow night. We're right on the edge of the "snow" part; it's as likely we'll get rain. But who knows?

Global warming just isn't working out. Damn it.

Dear G-D no.

512 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:57:42am

re: #506 MandyManners

You're a Buckeye!

Yep. And I even know how they taste.

/Better roasted than raw.

cheers

eon

513 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:57:58am

Poor man's fertilizer
From the weather notebook.

514 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:58:28am

re: #492 SixDegrees

Here in southern Michigan, they're calling for 6 to 10 inches of snow between now and tomorrow night. We're right on the edge of the "snow" part; it's as likely we'll get rain. But who knows?

Global warming just isn't working out. Damn it.

that's why I left that wishy washy state...not enough warm weather

515 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 5:58:51am

re: #510 eon

There are four different "Presidents" in the EU;

Presidency of the European Council

President of the European Economic Commission

President of the European Union Parliament

President of the European Defense Committee (aka NATO chairman)

and Blair isn't any of them.

The only thing he's President of AFAIK is his own fan club.

/Which I believe he is the only member of, as well.

//

cheers

eon

Tsk tsk, eon, you didn't read the link I posted. EU is changing to *permanent president*.

516 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:00:03am

re: #500 Wishing

With Tony Blair pres of the EU...and Obama pres of the US, what possibly could go wrong?

Can we get a do-over?

517 eon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:00:11am

re: #504 J.D.

Everybody needs to tour that place. When you see the history of aviation laid out the way it is there, it's simply awesome!

Right now they're about halfway through the restoration of the one-and-only XC-99, the transport development of the B-36 Peacemaker. When they get it done, it is gonna be huge.

Have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

518 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:01:37am
519 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:02:00am

I had a few absolutely perfect moments this past winter - snowshoeing in the still woods on a calm, crisp morning; traipsing over a blanket of clean white snow with my lab running circles around me; stopping every few minutes to listen to the sound of complete silence...
Heaven on earth.
But boy am I glad winter is over!

520 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:04:25am

re: #519 Spare O'Lake

I had a few absolutely perfect moments this past winter - snowshoeing in the still woods on a calm, crisp morning; traipsing over a blanket of clean white snow with my lab running circles around me; stopping every few minutes to listen to the sound of complete silence...
Heaven on earth.
But boy am I glad winter is over!

Love the avatar! I haven't been fishing in years. Time to correct that!

521 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:04:39am

re: #518 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.nws.noaa.gov...]

CO2 Attack loses punch, snow amounts less, be alert for heavy breathing causing renewed attacks.

Inhaling only for the next 2 weeks, please.

522 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:06:00am

re: #519 Spare O'Lake

I had a few absolutely perfect moments this past winter - snowshoeing in the still woods on a calm, crisp morning; traipsing over a blanket of clean white snow with my lab running circles around me; stopping every few minutes to listen to the sound of complete silence...
Heaven on earth.
But boy am I glad winter is over!

sounds awful...snow is pretty cold stuff

523 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:11:23am

Just had a loverly whine fest from The Kid. My patience wears thin at times but, it's taking longer to get to the end of my rope nowadays.

524 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:11:47am

we don nee no steeenking rules....why even read this shit?
BO is full of empty rhetoric just like the UN


[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

525 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:12:26am

re: #520 Wishing

Love the avatar! I haven't been fishing in years. Time to correct that!

It doesn't get much better than being in the boat at dawn, anchored on a weedline, casting a surface plug and watching a big old bass explode out of the water to grab it...
I can hardly wait.

526 Wishing  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:13:13am

This picture is hilarious!
Obama scolds Teleprompter

527 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:14:01am

re: #523 MandyManners

Just had a loverly whine fest from The Kid. My patience wears thin at times but, it's taking longer to get to the end of my rope nowadays.

You are getting older and softer MM. Happens to us all.

528 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:14:53am

Good morning, Lizards!

529 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:15:48am

Good morning, goddess, All!

530 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:16:14am

re: #501 MandyManners

I suppose it could be worse--you could be living in an area that has a lot of Spring thunderstorms and tornadoes.

That'll come later.

531 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:16:25am

re: #522 albusteve

sounds awful...snow is pretty cold stuff

LOL...you found me out, for the most part winter sucks!

532 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:18:16am

re: #525 Spare O'Lake

It doesn't get much better than being in the boat at dawn, anchored on a weedline, casting a surface plug and watching a big old bass explode out of the water to grab it...
I can hardly wait.

don't care so much for largemouth myself, but we fished alot of smallmouth back in the day...cold water, plenty of fight and taste better than trout...used to troll for them in the spring on their beds

533 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:19:01am

re: #527 Erik The Red

You are getting older and softer MM. Happens to us all.

*harumph*

534 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:19:16am

Good morning goddess, SurferDoc.

It's quiet here.

535 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:20:18am

re: #530 SixDegrees

That'll come later.

As the moist, Gulf air gets the chance to meet the Artic mass.

Has Gore tried to blame tornadoes on AGW yet?

536 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:20:27am

re: #531 Spare O'Lake

LOL...you found me out, for the most part winter sucks!

I still love downhill skiing and I got pretty deep into xcountry at one time...winter camping and all that....doesn't even compute now

537 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:20:35am

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

re: #529 SurferDoc

Good morning, goddess, All!

{goddess} and Doc{man hug only if you have pants on} Good Morning

538 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:20:53am

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

Hiya', goddess!

539 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:20:53am

Good morning, J.D. It's quiet here, too. Not even the doves are awake yet.

540 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:21:02am

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

Hiya {Teach}!

541 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:21:43am

Hiya, Erik. Shorts, Dude. Toujors les shorts!

542 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:22:52am

Morning all.

543 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:23:52am
TOKYO, April 5 -- North Korea launched a long-range missile Sunday morning, defying repeated international warnings, worrying its neighbors and setting up the prospect of increased sanctions.

The launch, from a base on the country's northeast coast, came shortly after 10:30 p.m. Saturday EDT, the U.S. State Department reported.

The three-stage rocket flew over Japan, with its first two booster stages falling harmlessly into the Sea of Japan -- also known as the East Sea -- and Pacific Ocean, respectively.

North Korea said the "peaceful" launch would put a communications satellite into orbit, and South Korean officials confirmed that the rocket was carrying a satellite. But President Obama called it a "provocative act" with which North Korea has "further isolated itself from the community of nations."

The apparently successful launch of the Taepodong-2 missile, which can fly as far as the western United States, came on its second test. The first, in 2006, failed after less than a minute. Experts said North Korea has been working on long-range missile development with Iran, which successfully launched a similar missile in February.
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North Korea announced about four hours after the launch that it had succeeded in putting a satellite into orbit. "The satellite is rotating normally in its orbit," the Korean Central News Agency reported.

But there was no immediate confirmation of that from other governments. North Korea claimed in 1998, when it launched a Taepodong-1 missile, that it had succeeded in putting a satellite into orbit. The U.S. government later said the claim was false. ...


Defiant N. Korea Launches Missile
Neighbors Express Dismay; U.S. Decries 'Provocative Act'

Looks like it's old news.

544 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:26:07am

I checked out El Baradei on Wiki a few moments ago and found this:

In an op-ed piece on the dangers of nuclear proliferation, in the New York Times (February 12, 2004), ElBaradei stated "We must abandon the unworkable notion that it is morally reprehensible for some countries to pursue weapons of mass destruction, yet morally acceptable for others to rely on them for security - and indeed to continue to refine their capacities and postulate plans for their use."[58] He went on to say "If the world does not change course, we risk self-destruction."

He seems to be saying that it is not wrong for Iran/North Korea to get nukes yet it is wrong for us to have them, and that we will destroy the world if we continue to insist that the bad guys not get them.

Am I missing something here?

545 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:26:31am

Morning everyone! Found an apartment far away from all these drama queens! Want to say thank you and apologize too to those who have offered advise for all the absurd problems these asshole neighbors have given me.

may 1st I'm outta hotel hell! Found a cute little place that has even better rent than this place. The drama even got worse last week, which was unbelievable! God i can't stand these creeps. All of them are far left assholes who fancy themselves superior beings. Typical. Anyhow, just wanted to let you all know that after may first, no more advise will be needed. thanks and apologies.

546 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:26:48am

Lizard Prayer List 4/5/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Lizard Prayer List 4/5/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Part 1 of 3:
Community issues:
Blessing and protection over all of us during these times.
Our government
Our troops
Israel
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

Thanksgivings
Flood waters have crested
Afrocity Brown: outpatient surgery went very well
bbuddha: mother-in-law doing much better
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

/cont'd

547 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:27:01am

Part 2 of 3:
Health issues:
Pietr: Aunt Doris in hospital with poor prognosis; b-i-l Roscoe undergoing Chemotherapy
J.D.: diagnosed friend's son as having a Glioma
SummerSong: sister fell & broke her arm; she has 4 weeks to go to finish first year of nursing school.
Alouette: baby granddaughter Freda bat Chana in the hospital with pneumonia
Irish Rose: serious asthma
Uncle Rancher: 17-year-old nephew undergoing treatment for melanoma
Doppelganglander: best friend Cindy diagnosed with MS, and her sister Becky who’s worried about her
NY Nana: son-in-law’s mum, recovering from amputation
CapeCoddah: boss John R
Iron Fist: diabetes not improving
yma o hyd: glaucoma; may need surgery
ArmyWife: FIL just diagnosed with leukemia; good friend’s daughter dealing with issues.
UberInfidel67 and other Lizards who are trying to quit smoking
Chicago Blonde: friend battling cancer
doppelganglander: sister battling breast cancer but not doing so well.
Macker: health issues and treatment
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
UberInfidel67: brother’s health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
Dublin(CA)Dude – extensive cancer
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
/cont’d

548 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:27:33am

Lizard Prayer List, cont’d (Part 3 of 3):

Family, friend, and life situations:
BaseballMom57: husband’s passing; prayers for especially for their children.
ChildofMary: passing of husband, ElderZionist
US Beast: passing of mother
Lizards in need of particular career opportunities.
Vxbush: two Lizard friends dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan; friends deploying there next week.
yma o hyd: ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: new 7th month foster daughter (previous foster daughter went to live with her grandma)
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

549 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:27:49am

re: #543 J.D.

Do we have the ability to knock that satellite out of orbit?

550 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:28:29am

Wow Goddess.

551 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:29:18am

jeez...I thought it was Monday...rifling around looking for beginning of the week news...duh

552 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:29:37am

re: #550 Teacake!

Wow Goddess.

{Teacake}

I'm glad your problem has resolved itself so well.

553 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:29:49am

re: #545 Teacake!

What happened recently?

Congratulations for getting away from the loons!

554 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:30:20am

Thank you Goddess, it was almost a miracle who it all happened.

555 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:31:00am

re: #546 goddessoftheclassroom

You're quite a gardener, goddess, tending to this list!

556 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:31:22am

re: #554 Teacake!

Thank you Goddess, it was almost a miracle who it all happened.

Well, you know how I feel about miracles--there is no "almost" about them! :)

557 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:32:51am

I ended up getting evicted after 10 years here, I think one of the neighbors had a hand in it. I started freaking out thinking I was going to be homeless since the rents here are so high.

each day looked at craigslist and then all the sudden, saw $435! Tuned out they listed it a couple minutes before I called. I was the first. Headed over there, loved it, signed the lease, gave the deposit. Selling things now to make the move easier. RELIEF!

558 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:33:12am

re: #548 goddessoftheclassroom

Hi goddess! My little granddaughter is home from the hospital now!

559 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:34:04am

re: #558 Alouette

Hi goddess! My little granddaughter is home from the hospital now!

Oh, I'm so glad! I've been very worried about her; thanks for the update. I'm moving her to Thanksgivings.

560 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:34:45am

goddess! :-)

Can you please add talloldman to the "health issues" list?

/unspecified, if that's okay.

Thanks very much!

561 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:34:45am

re: #549 MandyManners

Do we have the ability to knock that satellite out of orbit?

Good question, but there's no need.
And if there had been a satellite, I have no idea whether we have that ability.

...North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and U.S. Northern Command officials issued a statement disputing any success.

"Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan," the statement said. "The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean. No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan."...


North Korea claims satellite in orbit; NORAD says rocket payload at bottom of ocean

562 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:35:39am

re: #560 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

Can you please add talloldman to the "health issues" list?

/unspecified, if that's okay.

Thanks very much!

{littleoldlady}
OF COURSE!

563 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:36:33am

re: #557 Teacake!

Fantastic timing!

564 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:36:41am

re: #560 littleoldlady

Morning, lol.
It's late for you!
Hope talloldman gets better.

565 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:36:47am

I pray we don't end up with obama socialized medicine.

566 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:37:38am

re: #564 J.D.

J.D.! :-)

Thank you!

/I'm not really here...

567 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:39:12am

My mental health has suffered living here in ways I never thought was possible. Being ganged up on by people over 40. Never even had that in highschool. I'm not sure if I'll make a full recovery in my soul, but at least things won't get worse.

568 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:39:25am

re: #561 J.D.

North Korea claims satellite in orbit; NORAD says rocket payload at bottom of ocean

North Korea claims the rocket it sent up Sunday put an experimental communications satellite into space and that it is transmitting data and patriotic songs. The U.S. military says whatever left the launch pad ended up at the bottom of the sea.

North Korea has a history of hyperbole. In creating a cult of personality for its leader, Kim Jong Il, its media rewrote the story of his birth along biblical lines and once said that when he took up golf, he was firing holes-in-one with regularity.

The minds of those poor people must be incredibly stunted and deranged because no normal person could put up with such hoo-hah.

569 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:39:34am

re: #566 littleoldlady

J.D.! :-)

Thank you!

/I'm not really here...

otay

shhhhhhhh

570 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:39:57am

re: #567 Teacake!

My mental health has suffered living here in ways I never thought was possible. Being ganged up on by people over 40. Never even had that in highschool. I'm not sure if I'll make a full recovery in my soul, but at least things won't get worse.

May I add you to the prayer list? I'm serious--you're still hurting.

571 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:39:58am

Yesterday's Cop Killer was an Alex Jones fan and had a Stormfront account:

Believing most media were covering up important events, Mr. Poplawski turned to a far-right conspiracy Web site run by Alex Jones, a self-described documentarian with roots going back to the extremist militia movement of the early 1990s.

Around the same time, he joined Florida-based Stormfront, which has long been a clearinghouse Web site for far-right groups. He posted photographs of his tattoo, an eagle spread across his chest.

"I was considering gettin' life runes on the outside of my calfs," he wrote. Life runes are a common symbol among white supremacists, notably followers of The National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group linked to an array of violent organizations.

"For some time now there has been a pretty good connection between being sucked into this conspiracy world and propagating violence," said Heidi Beirich, director of research at the Southern Poverty Law Center and an expert on political extremists. She called Mr. Poplawski's act, "a classic example of what happens when you start buying all this conspiracy stuff."

572 DistantThunder  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:40:18am

Makes me feel so blessed that all my kids are healthy for now - and husband - and parents - and siblings. My best friend had her third breast lump discovered recently , and checked - it was benign. Incidentally, her medically facility is so up to speed, that on the same day that she had her mammogram and they discovered the lump- they send the patient directly over to the ultrasound area, and find out the same day whether or not the lump is dangerous. Nothing like socialized health care where she would have been given an appointment for weeks or months later.

I am grateful for our healthcare system.

573 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:40:52am

THank you goddess! Even though my issue isn't physical, i've felt dead inside for a long time.

574 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:40:54am

re: #546 goddessoftheclassroom

re: #547 goddessoftheclassroom

re: #548 goddessoftheclassroom

Great job goddess. Keeper of the Prayer List.

575 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:41:07am

re: #565 Teacake!

I pray we don't end up with obama socialized medicine.

You, me, and Mark Steyn...
"Life-prolonging": Who needs it? [Mark Steyn]

576 DistantThunder  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:41:14am

re: #557 Teacake!

I ended up getting evicted after 10 years here, I think one of the neighbors had a hand in it. I started freaking out thinking I was going to be homeless since the rents here are so high.

each day looked at craigslist and then all the sudden, saw $435! Tuned out they listed it a couple minutes before I called. I was the first. Headed over there, loved it, signed the lease, gave the deposit. Selling things now to make the move easier. RELIEF!

Wow. Great luck.

577 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:42:08am

re: #565 Teacake!

I pray we don't end up with obama socialized medicine.

My dad and a few buddies have been looking to put together the money for a few much-needed assisted-living facilities but, they're stalled now thanks to not know what FCBBHO is gonna' do to health care. Bah.

578 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:43:46am

I do feel lucky for the first time in years! Guess what is meant to be, is meant to be. 3 more weeks to go. The ganging up has actually grown and I don't even feel safe passing these assholes on the stairs. They are pathetic. Its felt like I'm Israel and they are the arab nations. seriously.

579 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:44:31am

re: #567 Teacake!

My mental health has suffered living here in ways I never thought was possible. Being ganged up on by people over 40. Never even had that in highschool. I'm not sure if I'll make a full recovery in my soul, but at least things won't get worse.

It's a cliche but, it's true that what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. For me, it was figuring out how to tap into the well of anger after I had figured out how to turn despair and humiliation into anger, an emotion that can be drawn upon to make changes.

580 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:44:40am

Incidentally, here's the actual link from NORAD regarding the NK missile...
NORAD and USNORTHCOM monitor North Korean launch

581 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:44:41am

re: #549 MandyManners

Do we have the ability to knock that satellite out of orbit?

Yes, we knocked one of our own satellites down that was dead and coming down any way. The reason given was to prevent it from coming down on populated areas.

It was more of a message, if we want to we can.

582 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:45:14am

re: #549 MandyManners

Do we have the ability to knock that satellite out of orbit?

I'm sure we can. But it isn't an issue; it never achieved orbit.

Unless you count the fact that it's now rotating around the earth at the exact same speed as the earth's surface is.

There are major problems with destroying satellites once they're in orbit. They all come down to debris management. You wind up with either one large hunk of uncontrolled spacecraft (not too much of a problem, but very difficult to achieve) or tens of thousands of much smaller pieces (much, much more of a problem, since they can't be tracked, but very easy to achieve.) In short, you make your own life much more complicated by doing this.

583 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:46:06am

re: #579 MandyManners

It's a cliche but, it's true that what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. For me, it was figuring out how to tap into the well of anger after I had figured out how to turn despair and humiliation into anger, an emotion that can be drawn upon to make changes.

That is a very wise insight. One of the best uses of anger is to turn it into determination.

584 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:46:32am

Mandy, the future seems scary for older people and it doesn't seem anything is in the works among the population to have something other than the street. Perhaps people will join together in the next few years and create our own group homes. Its a worrisome situation.

585 nyc redneck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:46:56am

i bought mark levin's book "liberty and tyranny" yesterday.
this is the quote on the back cover:

"we all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the
same thing. with some, the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word may mean for men to do as they please with other men and the product of other men's labor. here are two, not only different, but incompatible things,
called by the same name -- liberty.
and it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by
two different and incompatible names -- LIBERTY and TYRANNY."

*abraham lincoln, 1864*

after reading this, i find it so outrageous that the foolish imbecile o would dare compare himself to such a great thinker as abraham lincoln.
i'm shaking my head at this travesty.
there should be laws against such deeply disgusting disrespectful behavior.

586 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:46:57am

That story about the Boston Globe being in trouble from a couple days ago seems even more serious according to this one. Boston without the Globe will be a little strange.

587 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:47:54am

Yeah, the humiliation part has been devastating. Thing is, the asshole Alan could have helped prevent 99% of it all.

588 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:48:08am

re: #571 Thanos

Yesterday's Cop Killer was an Alex Jones fan and had a Stormfront account:

Believing most media were covering up important events, Mr. Poplawski turned to a far-right conspiracy Web site run by Alex Jones, a self-described documentarian with roots going back to the extremist militia movement of the early 1990s.

Around the same time, he joined Florida-based Stormfront, which has long been a clearinghouse Web site for far-right groups. He posted photographs of his tattoo, an eagle spread across his chest.

"I was considering gettin' life runes on the outside of my calfs," he wrote. Life runes are a common symbol among white supremacists, notably followers of The National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group linked to an array of violent organizations.

"For some time now there has been a pretty good connection between being sucked into this conspiracy world and propagating violence," said Heidi Beirich, director of research at the Southern Poverty Law Center and an expert on political extremists. She called Mr. Poplawski's act, "a classic example of what happens when you start buying all this conspiracy stuff."

Kilgore posted a photograph of him yesterday. He has a large phoenix tattooed on chest. It's looking in the same direction as that of the Nazis' iron phoenix. He also posted a link to one of his buddies' Facebook account. Neo-nazi.

589 Shug  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:48:16am

Two consecutive headlines on the yahoo news

• North Korea launches rocket, defying world pressure
• Obama launches effort to rid world of nuclear weapons


Obama doesn't have the will or backbone to shoot down their rocket, but he's gonnna rid the world of nuclear weapons? How is he going to do that when he can't even stand up ( with the backing of the whole world) to a North Korean midget Elvis impersonator?

590 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:49:28am

Anyhow, got to do some errands for the move. Just wanted to let you know that I will no longer be bringing these absurd problems to you all for advise! thank you all so very much for the support and advise over the years!

591 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:50:08am

alex jones should be tarred and feathered, along with congress.

592 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:50:16am

re: #571 Thanos

[Link: www.news.lalate.com...]

593 Bloodnok  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:50:24am

re: #586 Lincolntf

That story about the Boston Globe being in trouble from a couple days ago seems even more serious according to this one. Boston without the Globe will be a little strange wonderful.

594 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:50:58am

re: #591 Teacake!

alex jones should be tarred and feathered, along with congress.

Can I poke Alex in the butt with my pitchfork? Pretty please?

595 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:51:07am

re: #586 Lincolntf

That story about the Boston Globe being in trouble from a couple days ago seems even more serious according to this one. Boston without the Globe will be a little strange.

Just think how many trees are happier today.

596 Afrocity  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:51:58am

Good Morning Lizards.
Happy Palm Sunday.


I was wondering if anyone knew how I could get a word of thanks and appreciation to Laura Bush. Do I send it to Washington or another address?

597 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:52:00am

re: #573 Teacake!

THank you goddess! Even though my issue isn't physical, i've felt dead inside for a long time.

Emotional hurts are harder to live with. They prayers of my family, friends, and Lizards (but I repeat myself!) have helped me tremendously over the past two years.

598 Guanxi88  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:52:01am

re: #589 Shug

North Korean midget Elvis impersonator?

Reminds me of the characterization of Deng Xiaoping as an "evil, chain-smoking, murderous dwarf". Good stuff, Shug

599 gregg  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:52:11am

re: #568 MandyManners

North Korea claims the rocket it sent up Sunday put an experimental communications satellite into space and that it is transmitting data and patriotic songs. The U.S. military says whatever left the launch pad ended up at the bottom of the sea.

The North Korean's are definitely not telling the truth. I picked up their transmissions a little bit ago and was shocked to discover they are transmitting Abba songs. I have yet to hear a single patriotic song. /

600 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:52:24am

Thing about assholes like alex jones and the creeps I've had as neighbors... the bullshit has a way of affecting others in drastic ways, unexpected ways, a domino effect.

601 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:52:25am

re: #594 MandyManners

Can I poke Alex in the butt with my pitchfork? Pretty please?

Awww, I wanted to poke him in the butt, you can roast his balls with the torch!

602 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:53:22am

re: #596 Afrocity

Good Morning Lizards.
Happy Palm Sunday.

I was wondering if anyone knew how I could get a word of thanks and appreciation to Laura Bush. Do I send it to Washington or another address?

Was that dinner with your Dad last night?

How did it go?

I said a prayer for the both of you.

603 Teacake!  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:54:07am

Thanks much Goddess.

604 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:54:15am

Kilgore's link.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

What's posted on the creep's MySpace:

DOCUMENTS I RECCOMEND YOU READ BY GOOGLE: "Civil War II" by Tom Chittum "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" "The Turner Diaries" by Dr. William Pierce "Jewish Supremacy" by Dr. David Duke It Has Even Been Documented In The Communist Manifesto: "“We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tension. "By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. "In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavour to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. "We will aid the Negros to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites, and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.” Statement by Israel Cohen, in his book, “A Racial Programme for the Twentieth Century,” 1912, which is also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7th, 1957"

SNIP

605 Guanxi88  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:54:15am

re: #601 JCM

Awww, I wanted to poke him in the butt, you can roast his balls with the torch!

I can guarantee you that Alex will cite this in his radio show as proof of the ignorance and/or evil of those who don't understand what the Global Elites are doing to us, or are, like us, active, conscious agents of the neo-con drive for world domination

606 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:55:01am

re: #599 gregg

The North Korean's are definitely not telling the truth. I picked up their transmissions a little bit ago and was shocked to discover they are transmitting Abba songs. I have yet to hear a single patriotic song. /

That's enough reason to bitch-slap them!

607 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:55:48am

Obama calls for 'world without' nukes - the prelude for world with large irradiated holes.

Just hours after North Korea launched a long-range rocket, President Barack Obama called for "a world without nuclear weapons" and said the United States has a “moral responsibility" to lead the way...[.]

All nations must come together to build a stronger, global regime. And that's why we must stand shoulder to shoulder to pressure the North Koreans to change course.”

Say, 'Cheese! ...assume the position.'

Morning folks, it's another vunderbar day in the neighborhood.

608 Guanxi88  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:55:53am

re: #604 MandyManners

Kilgore's link.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

What's posted on the creep's MySpace:

DOCUMENTS I RECCOMEND YOU READ BY GOOGLE: "Civil War II" by Tom Chittum "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" "The Turner Diaries" by Dr. William Pierce "Jewish Supremacy" by Dr. David Duke It Has Even Been Documented In The Communist Manifesto: "“We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tension. "By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. "In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavour to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. "We will aid the Negros to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites, and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.” Statement by Israel Cohen, in his book, “A Racial Programme for the Twentieth Century,” 1912, which is also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7th, 1957"

SNIP

What, nothing about meth-cooking? I notice that these types always seemed to be involved, whether as customers or suppliers, in the free-lance methamphetamine trade.

609 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:56:12am

re: #601 JCM

Awww, I wanted to poke him in the butt, you can roast his balls with the torch!

Not even with a 10-foot pole.

610 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:56:52am

re: #596 Afrocity

Good Morning Lizards.
Happy Palm Sunday.

I was wondering if anyone knew how I could get a word of thanks and appreciation to Laura Bush. Do I send it to Washington or another address?

The best I could figure out is to contact her via the Laura Bush Foundation: [Link: www.laurabushfoundation.org...] You could email them to ask if they would forward your letter.

611 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:57:52am

re: #608 Guanxi88

What, nothing about meth-cooking? I notice that these types always seemed to be involved, whether as customers or suppliers, in the free-lance methamphetamine trade.

The ones I knew/knew of in Seattle were hard-core anti-drug.

612 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:58:02am

re: #568 MandyManners

The minds of those poor people must be incredibly stunted and deranged because no normal person could put up with such hoo-hah.

I read a book written by a young man who had escaped North Korea, with his family. Because it was the only world he'd ever known, he didn't realize anyone else in the world was better off. Meanwhile, he hunted rats in fields to eat, ate the bark off of trees (made soup out of things like that, I think...I'd have to grab it again and look), and was subjected to propaganda like you wouldn't believe - particularly anti-American/capitalist and pro-Kim propaganda. At night, the country is dark except for Pyongyang, I think. The live in fear of being reported on by their neighbors.

Sounds like heaven, huh?

613 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 6:59:15am

re: #607 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Obama calls for 'world without' nukes - the prelude for world with large irradiated holes.


Say, 'Cheese! ...assume the position.'

Morning folks, it's another vunderbar day in the neighborhood.

More freakin' plattitudes.

Hey, FCBBHO? You can't vote "present" any more. You cannot phone in your performance.

614 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:00:17am

re: #607 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Obama calls for 'world without' nukes - the prelude for world with large irradiated holes.


Say, 'Cheese! ...assume the position.'

Morning folks, it's another vunderbar day in the neighborhood.

Global regime?

Last night I saw a little video where he was talking to a reporter a few years ago, and he said he was so serious as a community organizer, working for "a revolution". It was an off-the-cuff remark, a throwaway, really - but the reporter wanted to discuss Obama's cool demeanor, and had no interest in what he meant by that.

I hope we survive this guy.

615 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:00:19am

re: #607 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Obama calls for 'world without' nukes - the prelude for world with large irradiated holes.

Say, 'Cheese! ...assume the position.'

Morning folks, it's another vunderbar day in the neighborhood.

Like I said last night. Obama would have as much luck repealing gravity as nuclear physics.

616 ciaospirit  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:00:22am

If you haven't heard yet.

There will be some HUGE announcements coming out over the next ten days regarding the Tea Party Movement. Some of these announcements will include exciting news about our new partnership with Pajamas Media TV.

The Tea Party Movement Coalition will be LIVE in the Los Angeles TV studio this coming Monday, April 6th, to do a LIVE broadcast of the Tea Party Coalition TV Show.

Join us LIVE at [Link: www.pjtv.com...] at 4:00 PM Pacific Coast time this coming Monday for a LIVE nationwide broadcast for the Tea Party Movement.

617 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:01:16am

BO/Clinton have already been slapped down over this "rocket that could be used as a missile"....he has to go to the UN and sanction the Norks in Space once again and everybody already knows that's not working....so he had a chance and blew it now he's boxed into the same old shit....poor BO is too stupid to understand he is being fucked dumb by everybody

618 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:02:13am

re: #612 capitalist piglet

I read a book written by a young man who had escaped North Korea, with his family. Because it was the only world he'd ever known, he didn't realize anyone else in the world was better off. Meanwhile, he hunted rats in fields to eat, ate the bark off of trees (made soup out of things like that, I think...I'd have to grab it again and look), and was subjected to propaganda like you wouldn't believe - particularly anti-American/capitalist and pro-Kim propaganda. At night, the country is dark except for Pyongyang, I think. The live in fear of being reported on by their neighbors.

Sounds like heaven, huh?

Not the kind I know.


619 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:03:06am

Good morning y'all - from a very spring like (59 degrees going up to 76 degrees), bright and sunny day in Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well!

620 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:04:06am

re: #586 Lincolntf

That story about the Boston Globe being in trouble from a couple days ago seems even more serious according to this one. Boston without the Globe will be a little strange.

Newspapers all over the country are shutting down or reducing distribution. Lots and lots of people now get their news from television or the Internet; and services like Craigslist have eaten into classified advertising revenue, which can make up around half of a newspaper's revenue. Thanks to reduced circulation, traditional advertisers have also pushed lower rates. So things are rough across the board. In a downturn, newspapers are among the most vulnerable businesses.

As much as I would enjoy seeing the NYT crash and burn, this is a worrisome trend. It isn't at all clear how any sort of reporting will take place without newspapers fielding actual reporters; without boots on the ground, all we have are the talking heads of television media and similar pundits on the Internet, neither of which acts as much more than repeaters of what's released at news conferences. Exceptions are very thin on the ground, indeed, and there's little incentive available to change that.

And there's the problem of history. Right now, if a story gets published by even a second-rank newspaper, there are hundreds of thousands of copies of it scattered across the landscape, archived in people's foyers, libraries, birdcages and dumps. Revising such hardcopied history is nearly impossible. Electronic media, on the other hand, leave no trace of having been altered, and (mostly) exist in a single place, or in very few central archives at most. The temptation to tamper with such archives certainly raises the incentive to do so. Embarrassing quotes, revelations, accusations or anything else that someone with sufficient power doesn't want seen can very easily be erased, permanently, without leaving a trace. Such control over historical records lies somewhere between insanely difficult and impossible with the printed record that print journalism provides.

621 golly  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:05:24am

re: #614 capitalist piglet

Was that The Aquariums Pyongyange? It is a chilling look at North Korean "life".

622 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:05:55am

re: #619 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a very spring like (59 degrees going up to 76 degrees), bright and sunny day in Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well!

Good morning, r/w. I hope you are doing well today - you sound good.

623 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:06:12am

re: #620 SixDegrees

Newspapers all over the country are shutting down or reducing distribution. Lots and lots of people now get their news from television or the Internet; and services like Craigslist have eaten into classified advertising revenue, which can make up around half of a newspaper's revenue. Thanks to reduced circulation, traditional advertisers have also pushed lower rates. So things are rough across the board. In a downturn, newspapers are among the most vulnerable businesses.

As much as I would enjoy seeing the NYT crash and burn, this is a worrisome trend. It isn't at all clear how any sort of reporting will take place without newspapers fielding actual reporters; without boots on the ground, all we have are the talking heads of television media and similar pundits on the Internet, neither of which acts as much more than repeaters of what's released at news conferences. Exceptions are very thin on the ground, indeed, and there's little incentive available to change that.

And there's the problem of history. Right now, if a story gets published by even a second-rank newspaper, there are hundreds of thousands of copies of it scattered across the landscape, archived in people's foyers, libraries, birdcages and dumps. Revising such hardcopied history is nearly impossible. Electronic media, on the other hand, leave no trace of having been altered, and (mostly) exist in a single place, or in very few central archives at most. The temptation to tamper with such archives certainly raises the incentive to do so. Embarrassing quotes, revelations, accusations or anything else that someone with sufficient power doesn't want seen can very easily be erased, permanently, without leaving a trace. Such control over historical records lies somewhere between insanely difficult and impossible with the printed record that print journalism provides.

I, too, worry about the memory-hole. Remember how FCBBHO utilitzed it during his campaign?

624 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:07:10am

re: #621 golly

Was that The Aquariums Pyongyange? It is a chilling look at North Korean "life".

It's called "This is Paradise!"

It's not terribly well-written, because of language issues, I assume - but it's a pretty shocking account. I'll have to check out the one you mentioned.

625 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:07:22am

not all Hollywood elites are jerktoids....Denzel Washington is in ABQ making a movie and he went over to Roswell and dropped 50k on the Eastern NM Boys and Girls Clubs....pretty cool of him to take the time and do that....good man

626 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:07:26am

re: #613 MandyManners

Mandy, FCBBHO isn't voting 'present' he's voting, 'Ok fellow dictators & tyrants, I'm going along with you swell guys.' {the FB! **spit**}

Gee I think my ō'dē-əs is showing a bit this morning. ;)

627 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:08:48am

re: #619 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a very spring like (59 degrees going up to 76 degrees), bright and sunny day in Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well!

Morning Real,
41°F heading to 65°F today not a cloud in the sky is morning.

628 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:09:04am

re: #623 MandyManners

I, too, worry about the memory-hole. Remember how FCBBHO utilitzed it during his campaign?

It's bad when the press collaborates. It's much, much worse when the underlying mechanics change and leave even the press helpless to rely on past records.

629 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:09:52am

re: #619 {realwest}

Good morning!
Hope you are doing well...as well.

630 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:09:59am

re: #624 capitalist piglet

It's called "This is Paradise!"

It's not terribly well-written, because of language issues, I assume - but it's a pretty shocking account. I'll have to check out the one you mentioned.

20 minute documentary on a couple of guys who got out of the NorKo camps.
Worthwhile.

631 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:10:10am

Good morning, realwest. It's 37 in the Mojave...but it will get up to 72 later on.

632 Afrocity  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:10:19am

Thanks JCM. My dad is coming over this afternoon. My apologies but I am spot cleaning and reading LGF at the same time, so responses are slow.

I am listening to Stan Getz albums this morning, to get me in a good mood.

633 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:10:29am

re: #620 SixDegrees

altering history is more than reason enough to hope these rags die....when they do, six months later nobody will even remember them

634 golly  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:10:31am

re: #624 capitalist piglet

I'll have to check out yours too. They sound like carbon copies of each other in describing how the escapees didn't realize at all what the world was really like.

635 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:10:48am

re: #624 capitalist piglet

It's called "This is Paradise!"

It's not terribly well-written, because of language issues, I assume - but it's a pretty shocking account. I'll have to check out the one you mentioned.

Remember how the Russians rebounded after the "fall" of Communism there? I don't see that happening in North Korea.

636 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:11:17am

re: #619 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a very spring like (59 degrees going up to 76 degrees), bright and sunny day in Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well!

{realwest}

I'm fine, thanks!

637 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:11:18am

re: #622 capitalist piglet
Morning to you! I'm feeling a little bit better - it's usually a little later on that my stupid new med starts playing havoc with my stomach!
Thanks for askiing.
How are you doing this beautiful day?

638 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:11:40am

re: #632 Afrocity

Thanks JCM. My dad is coming over this afternoon. My apologies but I am spot cleaning and reading LGF at the same time, so responses are slow.

I am listening to Stan Getz albums this morning, to get me in a good mood.

Do you have Getz/Jobim? That is a favorite of mine.

639 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:12:01am

re: #626 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Mandy, FCBBHO isn't voting 'present' he's voting, 'Ok fellow dictators & tyrants, I'm going along with you swell guys.' {the FB! **spit**}

Gee I think my ō'dē-əs is showing a bit this morning. ;)

I bet he's in frequent contact with El Baradei.

640 ciaospirit  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:12:32am

re: #463 eon

Lancaster, OH, 20 miles SE of the state capital, Columbus.

Home of General William Tecumseh Sherman- in fact, the Sherman House Museum is about four blocks from my house.

/No, it's not a good idea to admit you're from around here anywhere in Georgia, especially not around Atlanta.

cheers

eon

Tea Party
Statehouse
April 15th
6:00PM

641 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:13:10am

re: #627 JCM Good morning JCM - sounds like a perfect spring day out there in Berkeley North! LOL!
How are you doing - how's your new 7 month old adjusting?

642 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:13:42am

re: #628 SixDegrees

It's bad when the press collaborates. It's much, much worse when the underlying mechanics change and leave even the press helpless to rely on past records.

Remember the link buzzsawmonkey posted a while back about children's books published before a certain date being banned due to the lead in the ink? What about adult books?!

643 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:13:48am

re: #625 albusteve

not all Hollywood elites are jerktoids....Denzel Washington is in ABQ making a movie and he went over to Roswell and dropped 50k on the Eastern NM Boys and Girls Clubs....pretty cool of him to take the time and do that....good man

Morning Steve,
Denzel supports the troops as well. Good man.

[Link: acwriters.blogspot.com...]

644 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:14:00am

re: #633 albusteve

altering history is more than reason enough to hope these rags die....when they do, six months later nobody will even remember them

And then what?

645 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:15:04am

re: #629 J.D. Well thank you kindly {J.D.} I am indeed doing ok so far today!
Hope you are too!

646 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:15:56am

re: #632 Afrocity

Thanks JCM. My dad is coming over this afternoon. My apologies but I am spot cleaning and reading LGF at the same time, so responses are slow.

I am listening to Stan Getz albums this morning, to get me in a good mood.

I multitask too, getting kids dressed will start breakfast soon.

647 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:16:45am

re: #631 SurferDoc Hi SurferDoc - so when does the HOT season usually start for y'all out in the Mojave? And how are y'all doing today?

648 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:17:03am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Look what I found in today's paper:
'President Obama called for North Korea to be punished after the isolated communist state fired an intercontinental rocket this morning, defying weeks of warnings from world leaders and provoking anxiety across north-east Asia.'

The Norks to be 'punished'?
How?
By writing a hundred times 'Must not launch rockets'?

Aww ....

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

649 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:17:04am

re: #643 VegasRick

Morning Steve,
Denzel supports the troops as well. Good man.

[Link: acwriters.blogspot.com...]

cut a check right there on the spot...I think he will be around for decades yet, maybe run for office someday

650 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:18:24am

It’s hard to believe, but true: under a law Congress passed last year aimed at regulating hazards in children’s products, the federal government has now advised that children’s books published before 1985 should not be considered safe and may in many cases be unlawful to sell or distribute. Merchants, thrift stores, and booksellers may be at risk if they sell older volumes, or even give them away, without first subjecting them to testing—at prohibitive expense. Many used-book sellers, consignment stores, Goodwill outlets, and the like have accordingly begun to refuse new donations of pre-1985 volumes, yank existing ones off their shelves, and in some cases discard them en masse.

SNIP

651 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:18:42am

re: #644 SixDegrees

And then what?

somebody else will try their luck at print...who knows and why would anybody care....newspaper junkies will have to figure out what to do with themselves

652 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:18:51am

re: #639 MandyManners

I bet he's in frequent contact with El Baradei.

Good, cause ElBaradei's on his way out(November I believe), maybe he'll talk the FB with him.

654 ayatollah ghilmeini  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:19:36am

Sunday Thoughts

North Korea sent a message to the world: they are a dangerous lunatic nation and don't give a damn about their people, their neighbors or anything other than the mercurial desires of their criminal leadership.

Kudos to Mrs. Clinton and President Obama for displaying the weakness of character and personal strength, I call it appeasement, the naive belief that lunatic regimes can be contained- appeasement actually induces totalitarian regimes to misbehave. The North Korean Launch was a gauntlet thrown down to the Asia-Pacific community. Sadly, the one nation most able to meet the challenge, got stupid in November and no longer even knows how to speak to dictators. Iran will see this and speed forward on their nukes.

Bad news China, Japan is about to rearm! The Japanese have the money and technology to set off a Pacific arms race as not seen since the 30s. They have no choice in the matter- if they want to protect their people (crazy notion that!) they need to have the means to do so. They will. China, Korea and Japan have been having disagreements since the Ghengiz Khan; a fresh round of "fun" is in the offing. Yes Bush did not finish this vile regime off but he tried to do it through the Chinese and only glommed onto the strategy in 2005. He should have started on them sooner and Obama would have been wise to retain the Bush Korea team to keep the pressure on.

As bad as their efforts are in Pacific, the Middle East is loaded with explosives and the fuse is lit.

Mrs. Clinton and Obama are dead set on their peacemaking foray. This will inevitably lead to war. Israel's leadership has seen these clowns in action and come up with a shocking realization: Israel is alone. Obama just joined the UN HUman Rights Council- if ever there was proof of not having a clue, or worse dangerous internationalist arrogance, joining up with a body that has never criticized Sudan or China but has "devoted" 90% of its work (post reform mind you) to castigating and delegitimizing Israel is the gold standard. The HRC (odd initials that!) was spun from failure with failure as its goal by the very people who make the lives of billions miserable. These are the people who have to blame the Jews because otherwise the truth of their misrule would lead to new faces on the very same council.

But Obama-Clinton are going further still: tacitly approving the UK's reacharoundout to Hezbollah while the US reachesaround to Hamas, the west's two greatest powers have developed a new benchmark in ill informed diplo-stupidity: they will now speak with the "political" parts of Hamas and Hezbollah. The problem with this is both organizations are Jihad organizations; Jihad is war and violence, the lines of separation between the political and terror wings of these two groups exist only in the minds of the credulous. This would be true even if they were not totally funded by criminal activity and Iran (sort of redundant). So dear is the idea of peace, that like Mm. Albright chasing after Arafat in her heals, they are chasing after equally irredeemable and warlike folks with no hope whatsoever of any good, much less any peace coming form their efforts. It would be funny if a lot of people were not going to get killed by these dangerously stupid ideas.

War is coming. War is coming fast.

655 golly  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:19:44am

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, as it has just crossed the wires, but in un-reported news, "50 million sane gun owners shot no one today, or yesterday or tomorrow."

/

656 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:20:17am

re: #645 realwest

Yes indeedy!
I am doing pretty well!

As long as I don't sneeze, cough, or laugh.

657 Miss Trixie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:20:19am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Just a quick drive-by for now, no time to read upthread and I'll be back in a while. In the meantime, listen to the live interview with Lars Hildegard (sp), the author of the Danish mohammad cartoons.

658 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:20:31am

re: #648 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Look what I found in today's paper:
'President Obama called for North Korea to be punished after the isolated communist state fired an intercontinental rocket this morning, defying weeks of warnings from world leaders and provoking anxiety across north-east Asia.'

The Norks to be 'punished'?
How?
By writing a hundred times 'Must not launch rockets'?

Aww ....

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

While he's not the parent of North Korea, every decent parent (and, adult, really) knows that you don't make threats of punishment unless you are willing and able to back up those threats to the point that they are no longer threats but promises.

659 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:20:41am

re: #619 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a very spring like (59 degrees going up to 76 degrees), bright and sunny day in Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well!

Hiya, {rw}!

Missed you yesterday - hope all is well with you!

660 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:20:57am

re: #652 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Good, cause ElBaradei's on his way out(November I believe), maybe he'll talk the FB with him.

FB?

661 Miss Trixie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:21:19am

Oooopsie! Almost forgot!

{realwest} *smoochie-smooch* BBIAB, luv. :D

662 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:21:20am

re: #632 Afrocity
Good morning Afrocity! I musta misread your post last night, cause like JCM I thought he was coming over tonight. Well whenever, I wish you the best of luck. Is a "reconciliation" or whatever something you'd like to see happen?
And btw, why is it you want to contact Laura Bush; I mean is it something personal or do you just want to thank her for being such a fine First Lady?

663 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:21:36am

re: #641 realwest

Good morning JCM - sounds like a perfect spring day out there in Berkeley North! LOL!
How are you doing - how's your new 7 month old adjusting?

Not too badly. Learning to read her, which cry means what etc.....
So far it's been a smooth transition.

664 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:21:57am

re: #642 MandyManners

Remember the link buzzsawmonkey posted a while back about children's books published before a certain date being banned due to the lead in the ink? What about adult books?!

I missed that one.

For what it's worth, black ink typically uses carbon as it's pigment. No lead is involved. Heavy metal oxides are used in color printing inks.

Of course, we've seen how science can be grossly distorted for political purposes in many other cases; global warming leaps to mind, as do any number of unfounded pesticide panics.

And even then, with traditional printing the typesetting, negatives and plates are typically archived for use in reprintings. Typesetting has recently moved to direct-to-negative and even direct-to-plate processes, eliminating those intermediate steps, but the plates themselves are normally kept. I suppose even those will eventually disappear as cheaper alternatives are found. But for the moment, there are enormous piles of such materials kept on hand.

Once again, though, this concentrates control over the underlying information in very few hands. The Communists of the 20th century would have absolutely loved such bottlenecking of information.

665 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:22:05am

re: #650 MandyManners

It’s hard to believe, but true: under a law Congress passed last year aimed at regulating hazards in children’s products, the federal government has now advised that children’s books published before 1985 should not be considered safe and may in many cases be unlawful to sell or distribute. Merchants, thrift stores, and booksellers may be at risk if they sell older volumes, or even give them away, without first subjecting them to testing—at prohibitive expense. Many used-book sellers, consignment stores, Goodwill outlets, and the like have accordingly begun to refuse new donations of pre-1985 volumes, yank existing ones off their shelves, and in some cases discard them en masse.

SNIP

Congress can go piss up a rope.

666 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:22:35am

re: #637 realwest

Morning to you! I'm feeling a little bit better - it's usually a little later on that my stupid new med starts playing havoc with my stomach!
Thanks for askiing.
How are you doing this beautiful day?

Okay, all things considered...it's supposed to be warm and sunny today in Seattle, so I'm planning to dust my convertible off. That should get my mind off this government for a little while.

I hope your stomach cooperates today - any hope of that getting better over time?

667 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:22:50am

re: #571 Thanos

Yesterday's Cop Killer was an Alex Jones fan and had a Stormfront account:

Believing most media were covering up important events, Mr. Poplawski turned to a far-right conspiracy Web site run by Alex Jones, a self-described documentarian with roots going back to the extremist militia movement of the early 1990s.

Around the same time, he joined Florida-based Stormfront, which has long been a clearinghouse Web site for far-right groups. He posted photographs of his tattoo, an eagle spread across his chest.

"I was considering gettin' life runes on the outside of my calfs," he wrote. Life runes are a common symbol among white supremacists, notably followers of The National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group linked to an array of violent organizations.

"For some time now there has been a pretty good connection between being sucked into this conspiracy world and propagating violence," said Heidi Beirich, director of research at the Southern Poverty Law Center and an expert on political extremists. She called Mr. Poplawski's act, "a classic example of what happens when you start buying all this conspiracy stuff."

Good find, Thanos. That does help understand this nut.

668 Kenneth  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:23:21am

re: #658 MandyManners

Sometimes a brat will throw a tantrum expecting to get the parent all upset. In such cases the best repsonse is to ignore the tantrum.

669 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:23:24am

re: #651 albusteve

somebody else will try their luck at print...who knows and why would anybody care....newspaper junkies will have to figure out what to do with themselves

Hardly a solution to the problems I've raised, then.

670 Digital Display  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:23:32am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Mandy: Children's Books..It's the other white meat

671 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #636 goddessoftheclassroom Hey, hi there {goddess} I'm glad to hear that you're doing fine today! How's the weather gonna be up by you? If it's gonna be nice, y'all out to try to get outside for a while, after all the you-know-what you have to put up with every day in school!

672 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:24:03am

re: #664 SixDegrees

No. 650.

673 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #660 MandyManners

FB?

Truncated FCBBHO - the SoB doesn't deserve the keystrokes imo.

674 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:24:24am

Out of smokes. bbiab

675 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:26:11am

re: #658 MandyManners

While he's not the parent of North Korea, every decent parent (and, adult, really) knows that you don't make threats of punishment unless you are willing and able to back up those threats to the point that they are no longer threats but promises.

Soooo ....
Can we conclude that Obowma is not a decent adult, then?

He's already bowed to the Ummah - the Chinese and Russia have already said that international reactions to that rocket launch should show 'restraint' - wonder what the Security Council will come up with?

The possibility suddenly crossed my mind that Japan might be treated by the UN just like Israel.

676 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:26:14am

re: #647 realwest

Hi SurferDoc - so when does the HOT season usually start for y'all out in the Mojave? And how are y'all doing today?

Usually the hot weather starts in the middle of May or early June. It will last through October most years.

677 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:26:29am

Forgive the interruption:

May the tester who screwed up the latest installment (he hasn't a clue what the aircraft does) and insulted the customer (he is an ally, you moron), causing the entire team (including my husband) to be called in on the weekend to fix, have numerous boils visited upon his backside.

That is all.

678 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:26:41am

re: #672 MandyManners

No. 650.

Saw it. Thanks.

679 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:26:57am

re: #669 SixDegrees

Hardly a solution to the problems I've raised, then.

the problems you raised make no difference to me...why should anyone care about the downfall of a newspaper that consistently insults their intelligence?....print media is a dead end

680 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:28:45am

re: #675 yma o hyd

Soooo ....
Can we conclude that Obowma is not a decent adult, then?

He's already bowed to the Ummah - the Chinese and Russia have already said that international reactions to that rocket launch should show 'restraint' - wonder what the Security Council will come up with?

The possibility suddenly crossed my mind that Japan might be treated by the UN just like Israel.

sovereignty is toxic to the UN....stand up for yourself and they slap you down

681 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:29:01am

Sorry to post and run but work calls. Later, all.

682 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:29:14am

re: #679 albusteve

the problems you raised make no difference to me...why should anyone care about the downfall of a newspaper that consistently insults their intelligence?....print media is a dead end

I've outlined many reasons to be concerned over the demise of print media.

But there isn't any defense against willful ignorance.

683 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:30:20am

re: #677 scottishbuzzsaw

Forgive the interruption:

May the tester who screwed up the latest installment (he hasn't a clue what the aircraft does) and insulted the customer (he is an ally, you moron), causing the entire team (including my husband) to be called in on the weekend to fix, have numerous boils visited upon his backside.

That is all.

Hiya, {scotti}!

Numerous boils ought also cover the opposite end of his backside!

(Dunno what its all about - but having one's hsuband called out voer the weekend because of sheer stupidity would make me incandescent as well!)

684 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:31:17am

re: #682 SixDegrees

I've outlined many reasons to be concerned over the demise of print media.

But there isn't any defense against willful ignorance.

I could care less about the issue... and even less than that about your insult...no reason for that

685 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:31:31am

From Instapundit


TIMELY: Psychology Today: A Field Guide to Narcissism. “Deep desire to be at the center of things is served by extreme self-confidence, a combination that makes narcissists attractive and even charming. Buoyed by a coterie of admiring friends and associates—protected by the armor of positive self-regard—someone with a mild-to-moderate case of narcissism can float through life feeling pretty good about himself. Since they feel entitled to special treatment, they are easily offended, and readily harbor grudges. Yet narcissists are often very popular—at least in the short term. . . . A narcissist can be hard to identify, in part because he is likely to be much more fascinating than you would expect for someone so self-absorbed, and in part because you wouldn’t think someone with such self-regard could be so defensive and needy.”


Caution: If you see someone like that don't vote for them.

686 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:32:45am

re: #684 albusteve

I could care less about the issue

Well, that explains why you continue to insert yourself into the middle of it.

687 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:34:40am

re: #648 yma o hyd
Hi {yma} I hope you're doing well today! From your link:

But the US military reported that the rocket’s payload failed to enter orbit and fell into the sea. “Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan,” said a statement by the North American Aerospace Defence Command and US Northern Command. “The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean. No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan.”


Of course the problem is that the Nork's could have learned a lot by the failure too. I wonder exactly what Obama and the other nations (other than China and Russia) think that more "extreme sanctions" will do? I mean Lil Kim has shown, over and over and over again that he doesn't give a DAMN about how his own people get by (or simply die from starvation) or what the World thinks of North Korea (except possibly China which is, realistically the only ally North Korea could really count on in a conventional warfare situation)? History has shown repeatedly that Sanctions just don't work with a despotic regime. So what the hell does the World (or the UN) do now? From what little information I could glean from the "news" the people in North Korea have been suffering just as badly as any other people on earth and the UN has done bupkis for Sudan, Dar fur, etc. etc.
When the hell is the World gonna wake up and actually, you know, DO SOMETHING?

688 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:34:50am

re: #680 albusteve

sovereignty is toxic to the UN....stand up for yourself and they slap you down

Yep - so Japan will shortly run out of options, especially if the UN allows UN troops from China and Russia to be stationed in NK.

I can't see Obowma do anything more serious than writing 'strongly-worded' letters, perhaps hand-delivered by Hillary.
His knowledge of Foreign Policies would find room on the tip of a needle.

689 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:36:11am

re: #686 SixDegrees

Well, that explains why you continue to insert yourself into the middle of it.

it's an open forum and I made a passing comment....that's pretty typical, are you a thread cop?...try not to be so rude

690 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:36:26am

re: #669 SixDegrees

Hardly a solution to the problems I've raised, then.


I disagree. If every coffeehouse in the US started slowly bit surely serving shitty coffee to the point that consumers decieded that they would go elsewhere fore their coffee the coffeehouses would all go out of business. If another new coffee company started up using the business formula that they are going to give the consumers what they want - i.e - good coffee, they would thrive. Shitty newspapers that report what THEY want, when THEY want to should die. JMHO.

691 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:36:36am

re: #683 yma o hyd

Hiya, {scotti}!

Numerous boils ought also cover the opposite end of his backside!

(Dunno what its all about - but having one's hsuband called out voer the weekend because of sheer stupidity would make me incandescent as well!)

Hi, {yma}! The worst of it is they've already been on mandatory overtime for a year, but we could always count on weekends being sacrosanct. My husband was asked to speak to the offender yesterday and refused, saying he'd undoubtedly hit him. And my guy is a laid back fellow!

692 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #687 realwest

nicely put as usual

693 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:38:11am

re: #671 realwest

Hey, hi there {goddess} I'm glad to hear that you're doing fine today! How's the weather gonna be up by you? If it's gonna be nice, y'all out to try to get outside for a while, after all the you-know-what you have to put up with every day in school!

My BabyLizard is playing in his first spring soccer game today--should be great!

694 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:38:12am
GINGRICH: I think we should be very worried. My good friend and co-author Bill Fortune just wrote a book called "One Second After," which is a novel about what happens with an electromagnetic pulse attack.

There's no question that the newest kind of nuclear weapons -- three of them at the right altitude -- could eliminate all electricity production in the United States, which includes your car.

It would mean that basically we would go back to a preindustrial era overnight, in seconds. It's a very serious threat.

I don't think North Korea should be allowed to launch missiles. I think we should take whatever preemptive actions are necessary.

The idea that we're going to suddenly be shocked one morning as one of these missiles has a nuclear weapon and does something that dramatically changes America I think is a very dangerous idea.

And I find it very difficult to watch the U.S. government be passive as the North Korean dictatorship continues to develop its capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.


Gingrich Interview
Worth reading the whole thing if you missed seeing it.

695 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:38:15am

re: #688 yma o hyd

Yep - so Japan will shortly run out of options, especially if the UN allows UN troops from China and Russia to be stationed in NK.

I can't see Obowma do anything more serious than writing 'strongly-worded' letters, perhaps hand-delivered by Hillary.
His knowledge of Foreign Policies would find room on the tip of a needle.

Russia got a big plastic button...I wonder what they'll give Kim. How about a paddle?

696 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:38:39am

Suicide bomber kills 22 in Pakistan Shiite mosque

A suicide bomber attacked a crowded Shiite mosque south of the Pakistani capital on Sunday, killing 22 people and wounding dozens more in the latest carnage to hit the U.S.-allied nation, officials said.

Violence in Pakistan has spread well beyond the dangerous Afghan border region, including a suicide bombing in Islamabad on Saturday that killed eight paramilitary personnel and a deadly commando-style attack against a police academy last week in Lahore.

697 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:38:56am

re: #650 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy! I reported that comment to Charles in the hope that he'll make a thread out of it.
"Big Brother" isn't supposed to beat up on his younger siblings and book banning (much less any real burning) is just exactly that.
Thank you for that comment and excellent link.

698 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:39:45am

re: #668 Kenneth

Sometimes a brat will throw a tantrum expecting to get the parent all upset. In such cases the best repsonse is to ignore the tantrum.

Like this?

699 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:39:52am

You cant make these things up:

From the Harvard Square Hotel site:

Harvard Square seethes with cultural diversity

700 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:40:42am

re: #688 yma o hyd

Yep - so Japan will shortly run out of options, especially if the UN allows UN troops from China and Russia to be stationed in NK.

I can't see Obowma do anything more serious than writing 'strongly-worded' letters, perhaps hand-delivered by Hillary.
His knowledge of Foreign Policies would find room on the tip of a needle.

I see the UN as intentionally drawing battle lines between their ideology of a world authority and the rest of us....they are not even hiding their motives and the US has a good friend in the Japanese, woe be unto anybody that pushes them too far and BO better think way ahead about our relationship with them

701 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:41:19am

re: #687 realwest

Hi {yma} I hope you're doing well today! From your link:


Of course the problem is that the Nork's could have learned a lot by the failure too. I wonder exactly what Obama and the other nations (other than China and Russia) think that more "extreme sanctions" will do? I mean Lil Kim has shown, over and over and over again that he doesn't give a DAMN about how his own people get by (or simply die from starvation) or what the World thinks of North Korea (except possibly China which is, realistically the only ally North Korea could really count on in a conventional warfare situation)? History has shown repeatedly that Sanctions just don't work with a despotic regime. So what the hell does the World (or the UN) do now? From what little information I could glean from the "news" the people in North Korea have been suffering just as badly as any other people on earth and the UN has done bupkis for Sudan, Dar fur, etc. etc.
When the hell is the World gonna wake up and actually, you know, DO SOMETHING?

Hiya, {rw} - we're fine, today, me sneezing me head off! Hayfever ...

I think Russia and China could well have prevented this - they didn't, for obvious reasons: testing Obowma.
Trouble is - Obowma won't do a thing, he doesn't know what to do, nor does anybody at the State Dept.
Following the Law of unintended consequences - Ayatollah Ghilmeinri hinted at that above - this may well induce Japan to start scaling up their military and their armaments. Being the Hi-tech nation they are, this is not good for the region at all.
I can see Japan becoming isolated, just as Israel is already - as for South Korea, the same applies: they can see for themselves that Obowma isn't going to deliver the protection they need.

Thats now two trouble spots hotting up - the Middle East and the far East, and in both cases Putin has his fingers in the mix ...

702 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:41:55am

re: #695 capitalist piglet

Russia got a big plastic button...I wonder what they'll give Kim. How about a paddle?

Lil' Kim ringtone
[Link: www.mtv.com...]

703 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:42:47am

re: #694 J.D.

I did and it's very worrisom...I trust the Newt

704 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:43:00am

re: #698 rightymouse

Is it wrong that I laughed?

705 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:43:42am

re: #691 scottishbuzzsaw

Hi, {yma}! The worst of it is they've already been on mandatory overtime for a year, but we could always count on weekends being sacrosanct. My husband was asked to speak to the offender yesterday and refused, saying he'd undoubtedly hit him. And my guy is a laid back fellow!

Blimey!
I hope someone does speak to that offender, without hitting him but in the most forceful RSM voice possible - and may painful boils cover that idiot's whole body!

706 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:44:03am

*Sigh* The Carter Years are here again, people. It's going to geta lot worse before it get's better

707 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #693 goddessoftheclassroom

My BabyLizard is playing in his first spring soccer game today--should be great!

Hiya, {goddess}!

I hope he scores the winning goal!

708 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:44:34am

re: #654 ayatollah ghilmeini Another in a long line of great comments. Thank you.
You might find it interesting to visit lawawks blog - he had something up on it the other day about the same topic - the two state solution and the myth of peace in the ME as long as Israel and the P.A. (Hamas and Fatah are equally committed to the eradication of Israel) and are encouraged and enabled to do so by Iran and Syria through their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. And alas I fear you're correct that war is coming fast.

709 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:44:59am

The 'failure' to achieve orbit may have been an agreed upon face saving compromise offered to the Obama administration by NK's allies.

The Obama administration may have needed a way to justify their passivity in the face of the launch after first loudly proclaiming just a very few weeks ago that they would shoot it down. There has been a huge flutter of diplomatic activity lately with regard to Russia, China and Iran. A compromise may have been worked out whereby the NKs were allows to test their missile as long as headlines could be created announcing that the test 'failed'.

It may be the NKs did not need to put anything into orbit in order to successfully test their technology. They may be achieved their objective through a successful launch, and successful missile staging, and trajectory, etc.

710 DistantThunder  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:45:03am

re: #685 Luigi

From Instapundit


Caution: If you see someone like that don't vote for them.

Throw in a family dynamic of only child, narcissistic mother, and narcissistic grandparents (who on earth would handicap a girl with the name Stanley because they wanted a boy? - that's child abuse)

This is a twisted group.

711 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:45:32am

re: #704 Sharmuta

Is it wrong that I laughed?

Not at all. lol!

712 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:45:51am

re: #704 Sharmuta

Is it wrong that I laughed?

I sure did!....kids are goofy and great entertainment

713 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:46:12am

re: #701 yma o hyd

Let's not forget back during the Cold War and the beginnings of Isalmoterror that the Sovs had a big piece of the training and control of those early groups. While no longer controlled or controllable. Putin has the rolodex, and could still deal with those groups should he chose.

714 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:46:14am

re: #656 J.D. "As long as I don't sneeze, cough, or laugh."
Ribs bothering you? Or something else?

715 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:46:43am

re: #706 Jewels (AKA Julian)

*Sigh* The Carter Years are here again, people. It's going to geta lot worse before it get's better

I think we will look back in 1386 days and think that the Carter days were great.

716 DistantThunder  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:47:08am

re: #713 JCM

Let's not forget back during the Cold War and the beginnings of Isalmoterror that the Sovs had a big piece of the training and control of those early groups. While no longer controlled or controllable. Putin has the rolodex, and could still deal with those groups should he chose.

And they got Beslan for all their efforts.

717 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:47:17am

re: #709 Luigi

The 'failure' to achieve orbit may have been an agreed upon face saving compromise offered to the Obama administration by NK's allies.

The Obama administration may have needed a way to justify their passivity in the face of the launch after first loudly proclaiming just a very few weeks ago that they would shoot it down. There has been a huge flutter of diplomatic activity lately with regard to Russia, China and Iran. A compromise may have been worked out whereby the NKs were allows to test their missile as long as headlines could be created announcing that the test 'failed'.

It may be the NKs did not need to put anything into orbit in order to successfully test their technology. They may be achieved their objective through a successful launch, and successful missile staging, and trajectory, etc.

Opinion or link?

Interesting idea either way.

718 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:48:46am

re: #703 albusteve

I did and it's very worrisom...I trust the Newt

I liked him particularly in his interview.

NEWT GINGRICH, (R) FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER: Well, I think what he's going to do is be one of the two or three most left wing, big government, big spending, big bureaucracy people at the summit.

The tone was set last week when the Swedish government, which used to be called socialist, announced that they would not rescue Saab, because, as they put it, they weren't in the business of running the auto industry.

It was also said last week when the French government announced that they weren't going to have a big stimulus spending package because they thought it was very fiscally irresponsible.

So, ironically, President Obama will be one of the most liberal, one the most big spending, and one of the most high-tax people at the summit, which is the reverse of, I think, every American involvement in the summit probably in the history of these meetings.

VAN SUSTEREN: You know, a lot of people are surprised at this. For the first time they're sort of sitting down and looking at the policies, whether they're for it or against it.

But is there anything he's doing now that's in any way inconsistent to what he promised the American people?

GINGRICH: Almost everything he's done right now is inconsistent.

He never promised us a 34 percent increase in spending in one year, which is what this budget is. He never promised to take the national debt up to 82 percent of our gross domestic product, double the size of the American debt in comparison to our economy. He never promised us a $645 billion energy tax increase.

If he had campaigned on a promise to raise the cost of electricity, gasoline, and fuel oil, he would have lost the election.

719 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:48:48am

re: #659 yma o hyd
Hi {yma} - I've been off LGF for a few days - got on for a while last night; I'm doing ok but my onc gave me a new med to take and either it, or it in combination with everything else I'm taking has made my stomach revolt - can't wait to call him tomorrow!
Otherwise, I'm doing ok, how's about you?

720 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:49:07am

re: #716 DistantThunder

And they got Beslan for all their efforts.

Yep, 'tis the nature of the beast they fed.

721 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:49:13am

STOP FIRING MISSILES, DAMN IT!

/or you'll make TOTUS cry

722 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:49:13am

re: #695 capitalist piglet

Russia got a big plastic button...I wonder what they'll give Kim. How about a paddle?

If Putin had wanted to do that, he could have done that ages ago - as could China.

This is not something which just has happened overnight, or since Obowma took over. Its been slowly simmering along, only as long as President Bush had the helm, Putin and China knew full well that he'd not have talked about 'punishment' after the fact!

So this was another test, this time by Putin and China - and Obowma failed again. The Norks had advised they were going to do this, PB0 did have time to do something. What did he do?
Went on his campaing for his secind term!

723 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:50:03am

re: #709 Luigi

The 'failure' to achieve orbit may have been an agreed upon face saving compromise offered to the Obama administration by NK's allies.

The Obama administration may have needed a way to justify their passivity in the face of the launch after first loudly proclaiming just a very few weeks ago that they would shoot it down. There has been a huge flutter of diplomatic activity lately with regard to Russia, China and Iran. A compromise may have been worked out whereby the NKs were allows to test their missile as long as headlines could be created announcing that the test 'failed'.

It may be the NKs did not need to put anything into orbit in order to successfully test their technology. They may be achieved their objective through a successful launch, and successful missile staging, and trajectory, etc.

I'm sure they are pleased with themselves and further they will no doubt have a series of test fires on deck...one step at a time comrade

724 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:50:27am

re: #714 realwest

Ah...you know I had surgery a week and a half ago...I'll be good as new, he says, 8 weeks from that day. Getting better every day.

725 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:51:25am

re: #717 JCM

Just my humble opinion.

726 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:51:40am

re: #663 JCM
Is a smooth transition something that's unusual or does it kinda depend on the age of the kids? Or is it just random - each kid being different than every other one?
As I said last night, and mean it, you and your wife really are the finest kind of people around. Just real credits to human kind.

727 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:51:43am

re: #690 VegasRick

I disagree. If every coffeehouse in the US started slowly bit surely serving shitty coffee to the point that consumers decieded that they would go elsewhere fore their coffee the coffeehouses would all go out of business. If another new coffee company started up using the business formula that they are going to give the consumers what they want - i.e - good coffee, they would thrive. Shitty newspapers that report what THEY want, when THEY want to should die. JMHO.

Those aren't the problems I raised. I wasn't talking about shitty reporting, which is certainly a problem. But it's another problem, unrelated to the potential loss of historical documentation that the loss of mass-printed information brings. Or to the problem that with the demise of newspapers comes the demise of nearly all actual reporting, good or bad.

Even Charles' outstanding efforts, for example in the 60 Minutes/Dan Rather case, relied completely on traditional media (not print in this case, but television) for it's primary information: the allegedly original documents offered up as proof of their claims, and their decision to publish scanned facsimiles.

Again: those boots on the ground are necessary. Without them, there isn't any information at all. And I'm not seeing many substitutes arising to replace the reporters fielded by traditional media outlets. PJM might, conceivably, provide an alternative, but their business model is deeply flawed at best, and so far they've squandered their resources giving us faux "reporters" like Joe the Plumber. I don't see how combating the biases and excesses of outlets like CBS or the New York Times by doing everything they do so badly, but with differing slants, makes anything better.

By the way: the Detroit Free Press was single-handedly responsible for ousting Kwame Kilpatrick from office. They have recently announced that, together with the Detroit News, they will be reducing home delivery from seven days a week to three. I'm sure someone will come along to point out articles published by either or both that don't pass their ideological purity tests, but the fact is that newspaper reporters remain a major source of information in this country, and there isn't anything close to a counterpart that can replace that source.

728 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:52:07am

re: #725 Luigi

Just my humble opinion.

Would fit with Obama's passive aggressive mode of operating.

729 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:52:21am

re: #711 rightymouse

Not at all. lol!

Tantrums are no good unless there is an audience.

One thing I do hate though is screaming kids at the grocery store. Saw a mother once with her kid pitching a fit just outside the door- they hadn't made it in yet, and she decided that was enough. She turned around and packed up and left. I was thankful. I realize kids act up and love to do so publicly, I just don't like hearing it.

730 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:52:45am

re: #718 J.D.

heh...Newt knows about alot of things, economics and history, but he understand politics and elections better than any conservative I can think of...the GOP needs him in some role

731 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:54:10am

re: #700 albusteve

I see the UN as intentionally drawing battle lines between their ideology of a world authority and the rest of us....they are not even hiding their motives and the US has a good friend in the Japanese, woe be unto anybody that pushes them too far and BO better think way ahead about our relationship with them

'Thinking way ahead' and Obowma in the same sentence - heh, doesn't work!
He only thinks ahead where it concerns him - and sod the Nation, and any other nation or ally.

Its not as if the rest of the Asian Nations (Far east, that is) have forgotten what the Japanese military were like - just imagine if Germany were to re-arm flat out and re-militarise her whole society - the rest of the world would not be too keen on that. Same with Japan.

Obowma better think about how the American allies in that area would react - the whole system could crash down round his ears.

732 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:54:33am

re: #666 capitalist piglet
"any hope of that getting better over time?" I honestly don't know - won't know probably until after I speak with my doc tomorrow. I sure as hell hope so or I'm just gonna stop taking it.
Dust off the ole convertable eh? Wow, that sounds like FUN! What kind of car do you have and is it a real ragtop or one of those metal top that folds into your trunk jobs?

733 J.D.  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:55:32am

Bye all.
Hope to be back later.

Play nice.™

734 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:55:43am

re: #709 Luigi

The 'failure' to achieve orbit may have been an agreed upon face saving compromise offered to the Obama administration by NK's allies.

The Obama administration may have needed a way to justify their passivity in the face of the launch after first loudly proclaiming just a very few weeks ago that they would shoot it down. There has been a huge flutter of diplomatic activity lately with regard to Russia, China and Iran. A compromise may have been worked out whereby the NKs were allows to test their missile as long as headlines could be created announcing that the test 'failed'.

Who says, and where?
Linky, please!

It may be the NKs did not need to put anything into orbit in order to successfully test their technology. They may be achieved their objective through a successful launch, and successful missile staging, and trajectory, etc.

735 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #726 realwest

Is a smooth transition something that's unusual or does it kinda depend on the age of the kids? Or is it just random - each kid being different than every other one?
As I said last night, and mean it, you and your wife really are the finest kind of people around. Just real credits to human kind.

It varies widely, a calm baby will take it more in stride. In this case the kid is coming from a another short term foster home, to our long term one. So the baby is pretty calm. We've had a couple that were yanked that day from abuse or neglect situation and dropped in our laps. Those not only do you have the transition but the effects of what ever type of abuse.

This little one's mom was a drug user so the baby spent the first six weeks in a special facility for infant drug withdrawal.

736 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:56:54am

re: #734 yma o hyd

Again, just the product of my fevered imagination.

737 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:57:12am

re: #731 yma o hyd

'Thinking way ahead' and Obowma in the same sentence - heh, doesn't work!
He only thinks ahead where it concerns him - and sod the Nation, and any other nation or ally.

Its not as if the rest of the Asian Nations (Far east, that is) have forgotten what the Japanese military were like - just imagine if Germany were to re-arm flat out and re-militarise her whole society - the rest of the world would not be too keen on that. Same with Japan.

Obowma better think about how the American allies in that area would react - the whole system could crash down round his ears.

I wonder if a pact between Japan, Taiwan and S Korea could work...a new sort of SEATO....they would be formidable

738 SixDegrees  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:57:39am

Out for now; the backyard calls.

739 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:58:18am

So if the NK missile payload landed in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, then how exactly is that a failure, unless they were not aiming it there?
Surely noone is gullible enough to take NK's statement (that it was a music and weather satellite launch) at face value.

740 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:58:21am

re: #719 realwest

Hi {yma} - I've been off LGF for a few days - got on for a while last night; I'm doing ok but my onc gave me a new med to take and either it, or it in combination with everything else I'm taking has made my stomach revolt - can't wait to call him tomorrow!
Otherwise, I'm doing ok, how's about you?

Sorry to hear that, {rw}!
I read somewhere recently that these acupressure wristbands, to help against seasickness, also work in such cases - worth trying?

Me - aww, its hayfever season - sneezing my head off!
At least there will be rain tomorrow, that should clear the air!

741 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #727 SixDegrees

I understand your point and you make it very well. My one question re "historical record" is that if you start out with a lie or a half truth or whatever you want to call it and most of the rags print it, where does the true "historical record" stand? Tell a lie enough tlme and people will believe that it is true?

742 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:59:38am

re: #729 Sharmuta

Tantrums are no good unless there is an audience.

One thing I do hate though is screaming kids at the grocery store. Saw a mother once with her kid pitching a fit just outside the door- they hadn't made it in yet, and she decided that was enough. She turned around and packed up and left. I was thankful. I realize kids act up and love to do so publicly, I just don't like hearing it.

Agreed. My pet peeves include the grocery store too. Same thing with restaurants.

Check this one out. The girl is totally out of control.

743 republic  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 7:59:58am

Iran tests various range missiles often, Iran sends satellites into orbit often, Iran, for years, has said that Israel needs to be wiped off the map, and Iran has stated their intended purposes of not only trying to wipe Israel off the map, but to further the cause of Islam around the world, with nuclear weapons, and, crickets have been chirping ever since.

North Korea launches a test missile, when it has been public knowledge for quite some time, that not only does NK have nuclear war heads, but they have had the means to send those warheads to far away places for quite some time.

Is there another Ronald Reagan out there somewhere, who can win the presidency, and put these rogue dictators in their place, because there is no way the current admin. has even a clue as what to do, and the U.N. is even more clueless and disorganized.

744 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:00:04am

re: #739 Spare O'Lake

So if the NK missile payload landed in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, then how exactly is that a failure, unless they were not aiming it there?
Surely noone is gullible enough to take NK's statement (that it was a music and weather satellite launch) at face value.

Farce value.

745 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:00:08am

Let's give Obama a chance, shall we?

Obama Wants to Control the Banks
There's a reason he refuses to accept repayment of TARP money.

746 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:00:59am

re: #732 realwest

"any hope of that getting better over time?" I honestly don't know - won't know probably until after I speak with my doc tomorrow. I sure as hell hope so or I'm just gonna stop taking it.
Dust off the ole convertable eh? Wow, that sounds like FUN! What kind of car do you have and is it a real ragtop or one of those metal top that folds into your trunk jobs?

Right now I have a Nissan 350Z roadster - it's a rag top, but it's powered and folds into the trunk. This is my sixth convertible...the one I traded for this was an Audi TT, and it was the worst car I ever had! Electrical problems like crazy - it stranded me with just 3K miles on it, and I traded it with 11K.

I hope your doctor can help you with what's going on. You must not feel like the trade-off with this drug is a good one, anyway, if you're thinking about quitting it - maybe there's something else they can give you.

747 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:01:12am

re: #736 Luigi

Again, just the product of my fevered imagination.

Thats all right - its not fevered - its what I'd call measured speculation based on observed facts and previous knowledge!

Interesting - but way too clever for the idiots populating Foggy Bottom right now.

748 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #735 JCM

Not to get to personal JCM, but how do you keep the emotions out of foster care. I would bond very quickly with the infants. The older ones I would battle with cause I like my life to run a certain way with little conflict. You spend so much energy trying to do the beat foe the kids, knowing that their time is short with you.

Good man.

749 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:02:05am

re: #692 albusteve
Thank you! And I'm not just getting crotchety in my older age either, I damn sick and tired of seeing people STARVE TO DEATH in the 21st Century when we could prevent that if we weren't all so concerned about who dances with whom and all sorts of other bullshit protocols.
What in the hell ever happened to "HOPE" and "CHANGE" huh?

750 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:02:26am

re: #747 yma o hyd

Thats all right - its not fevered - its what I'd call measured speculation based on observed facts and previous knowledge!

Interesting - but way too clever for the idiots populating Foggy Bottom right now.

Yes, but not too clever for the Norks and their pals.

751 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:02:55am

re: #742 rightymouse

Agreed. My pet peeves include the grocery store too. Same thing with restaurants.

Check this one out. The girl is totally out of control.



WAB as a child?

752 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:03:16am

re: #742 rightymouse

Agreed. My pet peeves include the grocery store too. Same thing with restaurants.

Check this one out. The girl is totally out of control.


[Video]

I would have dumped her in the pool...

753 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:03:41am

re: #748 Erik The Red

Not to get to personal JCM, but how do you keep the emotions out of foster care. I would bond very quickly with the infants. The older ones I would battle with cause I like my life to run a certain way with little conflict. You spend so much energy trying to do the beat foe the kids, knowing that their time is short with you.

Good man.

Sorry this is so full of errors.

PIMF

754 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:04:08am

re: #737 albusteve

I wonder if a pact between Japan, Taiwan and S Korea could work...a new sort of SEATO....they would be formidable

So they would!

Nightmare for China and Russia - law of unintended consequences at work.
Not that it wouldn't serve both Putin and China blydi well right!

And that also might give some of the 'moderate' islamic republics in that area a little headache ...

755 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:04:35am

re: #751 VegasRick

WAB as a child?

You bad. :)

756 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:04:53am

re: #745 FrogMarch

Obama Wants to Control the Banks
There's a reason he refuses to accept repayment of TARP money.

I read that but I can't find anything to back it up.

/five banks have already repaid their TARP funds and lots of other banks are lining up to do the same

757 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:05:01am

re: #699 Ayatollah Ghilmeini ROTFLMAO!

758 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:05:59am

re: #749 realwest

Thank you! And I'm not just getting crotchety in my older age either, I damn sick and tired of seeing people STARVE TO DEATH in the 21st Century when we could prevent that if we weren't all so concerned about who dances with whom and all sorts of other bullshit protocols.
What in the hell ever happened to "HOPE" and "CHANGE" huh?

the UN and it's sycophants are largely to blame...I'm not cynical when I say starvation is good business for the UN

759 callahan23  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:06:14am

Good morning to all Lizards.
It is a brilliant spring day where I live.

re: #743 republic

.... Is there another Ronald Reagan out there somewhere, who can win the presidency, and put these rogue dictators in their place, because there is no way the current admin. has even a clue as what to do, and the U.N. is even more clueless and disorganized.

Ronald Reagan, Yeah, Yeah and Yeah.
BUT, I beg your pardon the U.-f*cking-N. has discredited itself a long time ago.

760 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:06:15am

re: #752 albusteve

I would have dumped her in the pool...

Me too. Can't believe how calm the adults were. Maybe they were used to her going off.

761 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:06:45am

re: #751 VegasRick

WAB as a child?

ahahaha!....how did you know that?

762 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:06:53am

we're off for another sailing adventure with Slokat..... if i'm not here for the LNDT, somebody call the Coast Guard.....

(or look for news reports of pirates attacking ethanol tanks %-)

763 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:07:09am

re: #750 Luigi

Yes, but not too clever for the Norks and their pals.

Now that is true - unfortunately nobody at Foggy Bottom will be able to understand that.

We'll have to see how Japan plays this, I don't think they were in on this.

764 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:07:17am

re: #748 Erik The Red

Not to get to personal JCM, but how do you keep the emotions out of foster care. I would bond very quickly with the infants. The older ones I would battle with cause I like my life to run a certain way with little conflict. You spend so much energy trying to do the beat foe the kids, knowing that their time is short with you.

Good man.

You give the kids everything, and yes you bond with them all. They need someone, and it wouldn't be fair to hold back. They've had a raw deal for what ever reason. So we need to be the adult, we can deal with the loss of each child, going on to what ever is next for them. We just need to do what we can for them. It's probably harder on them, bonding with us, then getting moved yet again to a new home.

That part is never easy, but it's worthwhile, know that for however long they were with us it was a better situation for them.

So far we've kept and adopted 3 of them. The process is to try to keep kids with family whenever possible.

765 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:07:39am

re: #761 albusteve

ahahaha!....how did you know that?

The big hips.

766 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:07:49am

The Notre Dame, Obama Commencement speech controversy rages on.
Father Jenkins says that although he doesn't agree with Obama on everything , this is an opportunity for dialog.
That is nonsense, Obama will be there to be honored with an honorary Doctor of Laws, not to debate.
It really doesn't matter how people feel about pro choice personally, this is a Catholic University & they are honoring a guy who promotes the Freedom of Choice Act which would require Catholic hospitals to perform abortions & who supported infanticide as a State Senator.

767 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:08:26am

re: #742 rightymouse

Wow! "I'm going to kill you"?! That ain't right.

Some of the worst behaviors end up getting reinforced by some parents. I used to watch Super Nanny just to see how some kids have their parents so snowed.

768 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:08:55am

re: #762 redc1c4

we're off for another sailing adventure with Slokat..... if i'm not here for the LNDT, somebody call the Coast Guard.....

(or look for news reports of pirates attacking ethanol tanks %-)

Hey red. I hope the wind is strong off your shoulder. Hang off the trapeze or have a cold one for me.:)

769 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:09:10am

re: #760 rightymouse

Me too. Can't believe how calm the adults were. Maybe they were used to her going off.

I would think so if she's getting away with saying "I'm going to kill you".

770 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:09:11am

re: #754 yma o hyd

So they would!

Nightmare for China and Russia - law of unintended consequences at work.
Not that it wouldn't serve both Putin and China blydi well right!

And that also might give some of the 'moderate' islamic republics in that area a little headache ...

it's certainly shaping up that they have mutual interests....think of all the tech they collectively have...and the Japanese and S Koreans are very 'focused' when they become aggressive

771 nyc redneck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:09:39am

re: #760 rightymouse

Me too. Can't believe how calm the adults were. Maybe they were used to her going off.

how old was she? maybe 3 or 4 yrs. old,
she screamed, "i'm going to kill you" and she was hitting her mom.
unfcking believable.
maybe she has a chronic headache from that bead work and tight braiding.

772 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:10:03am

The NYSlimes on Obama Urges Nuclear Arms Reduction

[...] Obama said his goal of ''a world without nuclear weapons'' won't be reached soon, ''perhaps not in my lifetime.''

But he said the United States, with one of the world's largest arsenals and the only nation to have used an atomic bomb, has a ''moral responsibility'' to start taking steps now.
[...]
It is not only a lofty goal. Gary Samore, Obama's arms control coordinator, said the plan has a strategic aim: to give the U.S. extra leverage in opposing the pursuit of nuclear arms in adversarial countries such as North Korea and Iran. ''We are trying to seek the moral high ground,'' Samore said.

Devoting an entire speech to the longtime ''no nukes'' cause of the political left is more popular in Europe than in the United States. Obama signaled he would allow not allow America to become more vulnerable, saying that surrendering nuclear weapons must be a global all-for-one, or not-at-all, endeavor.

Could someone please translate the NYSlimeSpeak, '...he would allow not allow America to become more vulnerable....' for me or is this just keeping all options open?

But the following is interesting if it can be believed that it stands alone and without the date-stamped umm, umm, umm, ahh, ah, ah, I...I...I, me, me, me qualifiers Obummer so typically uses,

He also gave his most unequivocal pledge yet to proceed with a missile defense system in Europe while Iran pursues nuclear weapons, as the West alleges. That shield is to be based in the Czech Republic and Poland. Those countries are on Russia's doorstep, and the move has contributed to a significant decline in U.S.-Russia relations.

In the interest of resetting ties with Moscow, Obama previously had appeared to soft-pedal his support for the Bush-era shield proposal. But he adopted a different tone in Prague.

''As long as the threat from Iran persists, we will go forward with a missile defense system that is cost-effective and proven,'' Obama said, earning cheers from the crowd.

This was in part a message to Russia, which has balked at using its influence to press Iran to drop its nuclear pursuits.

...maybe I need the latest bus schedule?

773 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:10:06am

re: #742 rightymouse

Agreed. My pet peeves include the grocery store too. Same thing with restaurants.

Check this one out. The girl is totally out of control.

i always breakout the "command voice" when i'm subjected to such joys in public...... usually the kid quiets down, but the so called parents get wound, so i end up telling them to STFU also.....

/no tolerance for this sort of thing

774 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:10:17am

re: #760 rightymouse

Me too. Can't believe how calm the adults were. Maybe they were used to her going off.

I raised two kids and never had anything even close to that situation

775 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:10:18am

re: #764 JCM

You give the kids everything, and yes you bond with them all. They need someone, and it wouldn't be fair to hold back. They've had a raw deal for what ever reason. So we need to be the adult, we can deal with the loss of each child, going on to what ever is next for them. We just need to do what we can for them. It's probably harder on them, bonding with us, then getting moved yet again to a new home.

That part is never easy, but it's worthwhile, know that for however long they were with us it was a better situation for them.

So far we've kept and adopted 3 of them. The process is to try to keep kids with family whenever possible.

Hat off and bows.

776 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:11:05am

Brave souls from Cuba plan to meet

In Cuba, any comment that strays from the communist regime's propaganda is blamed on U.S. machinations. ....
Latin American and European heads of state go to Havana and fawn over the Castros, never bothering to speak to one dissident, one opposition group, one honest broker for basic human rights.

It is this international see-no-evil Orwellian reality...

leftists *spit*

777 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:11:39am

re: #775 Erik The Red

Hat off and bows.

Ask me again at 3am sometime with a colicky infant.......
;-P

778 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:12:49am

re: #767 Sharmuta

Wow! "I'm going to kill you"?! That ain't right.

Some of the worst behaviors end up getting reinforced by some parents. I used to watch Super Nanny just to see how some kids have their parents so snowed.

Some kids can be extremely difficult to raise. But the key to parenting is to make sure the kids figure out at an early age who is in charge, and it ain't the kid.

779 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:12:53am

re: #771 nyc redneck

how old was she? maybe 3 or 4 yrs. old,
she screamed, "i'm going to kill you" and she was hitting her mom.
unfcking believable.
maybe she has a chronic headache from that bead work and tight braiding.

I completely agree- hitting the parent is right out for me. It's completely unacceptable, and any parent that allows their child to hit them without any sort of punishment for such behavior kind of has what will come of that coming to them.

780 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:12:57am

re: #756 Killian Bundy


/five banks have already repaid their TARP funds and lots of other banks are lining up to do the same

Fast forward to today, and that same bank is begging to give the money back. The chairman offers to write a check, now, with interest. He's been sitting on the cash for months and has felt the dead hand of government threatening to run his business and dictate pay scales. He sees the writing on the wall and he wants out. But the Obama team says no, since unlike the smaller banks that gave their TARP money back, this bank is far more prominent. The bank has also been threatened with "adverse" consequences if its chairman persists. That's politics talking, not economics.

I wonder what bank he is talking about?

781 wiffersnapper  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:13:24am

Geithner: Taxes? We don't need to pay no steeeeeekin' taxes!

782 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:13:29am

re: #742 rightymouse

Agreed. My pet peeves include the grocery store too. Same thing with restaurants.

Check this one out. The girl is totally out of control.



I bet she needed to be some place other than a bright pool patio with loud music at that time of day. Maybe a nap was in order. But, so was a smart smack on the butt or two about 15 seconds into it and a prompt removal. No way in heck would I have subjected the others to that scene.

783 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:13:44am

re: #775 Erik The Red

Hat off and bows.

JCM is a real hero.

784 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:13:53am

re: #770 albusteve

it's certainly shaping up that they have mutual interests....think of all the tech they collectively have...and the Japanese and S Koreans are very 'focused' when they become aggressive

Indeed.

On a more flippant note - if they do get together, we might well see the first robot army: there goes my chance for a robot doing all my housework, not just the piffling hoovering!

785 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:14:35am

re: #780 FrogMarch

I wonder what bank he is talking about?

Me too.

/as a taxpayer, I want my money back ASAP

786 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:14:39am

re: #701 yma o hyd
Sorry to hear about your hay fever! It's one thing I used to have as a child/teenager, but seem to have outgrown or swapped for other allergies.
As for Japan, it's sort of a predicament. Despite WWII and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese people, historically at least, have always seen themselves as "superior" to others - especially to Black and Caucasian people and of course their history is chock full of attempts to expand their spheres of influence. If they start to believe (and I'd wager that they already have) that the USA cannot be counted on to protect them, they'll go militarily viral in a nanosecond - even today's generation of young Japanese are NOT gonna let anyone screw around with them. They have been able to rely on the US and have abided by their (US imposed) constitution for 50+ years now, but there's no doubt at all in my mind that they'll do whatever is best for Japan and if the US, Nork, China or anyone else doesn't like it, methinks Japan will, diplomatically, tell 'em ALL to go piss up a rope. I'd much rather have Japan as an ally than South Korea or China for that matter.

787 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:15:00am

re: #760 rightymouse

Me too. Can't believe how calm the adults were. Maybe they were used to her going off.

The adults must remain cool and non-emotional or else the child will get a pay-off in seeing them upset.

788 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:15:07am

re: #772 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

We have a moral responsibility alright.

To protect and defend Life, Liberty, Property & Pursuit of Happiness wherever we find it.

Those who hate those things are hell bent on acquiring nuclear weapons. We abdicate or moral responsibility by not being in a position to defend those core values.

789 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:15:58am

re: #769 Sharmuta

I would think so if she's getting away with saying "I'm going to kill you".

I wonder where she learned that bit?

790 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #769 Sharmuta

I would think so if she's getting away with saying "I'm going to kill you".

It was unbelievable. And the thing of it is, the girl is likely to do that again if she knows the worst that will happen is to be removed from the room/pool/store/restaurant with no other serious consequence.

791 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:16:09am

re: #782 MandyManners

Mandy ... you may enjoy this.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

792 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:16:25am

re: #789 MandyManners

I wonder where she learned that bit?

Yeah- I'm really kind of disturbed by that.

793 callahan23  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:16:52am

re: #764 JCM
JCM a true 'Mensch' in every sense of the word.

794 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:16:57am

re: #780 FrogMarch

I wonder what bank he is talking about?

I read this when I woke up then could not find it to post....this is profoundly disturbing on several levels...these banks need to go public bigtime with this repay issue...it's contrary to general American principles I'd think....I hope this really snowballs

795 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:17:29am

re: #771 nyc redneck

how old was she? maybe 3 or 4 yrs. old,
she screamed, "i'm going to kill you" and she was hitting her mom.
unfcking believable.
maybe she has a chronic headache from that bead work and tight braiding.

Maybe she just needed a nap to avert that melt-down.

796 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:17:29am

re: #771 nyc redneck

how old was she? maybe 3 or 4 yrs. old,
she screamed, "i'm going to kill you" and she was hitting her mom.
unfcking believable.
maybe she has a chronic headache from that bead work and tight braiding.

I blame bad parenting.

797 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:17:33am

re: #783 Sharmuta

JCM is a real hero.

aww shucks
*blush*

798 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:18:03am

re: #786 realwest

Morning RW ... you must have gotten some sleep. New meds let you rest easy?

799 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:18:50am

Drudge has that refusal to accept TARP repayments...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

800 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:18:50am

re: #798 Bobibutu

Morning RW ... you must have gotten some sleep. New meds let you rest easy?

Ah ... just checked my in box ...

801 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:18:52am

re: #788 JCM

We have a moral responsibility alright.

To protect and defend Life, Liberty, Property & Pursuit of Happiness wherever we find it.

Those who hate those things are hell bent on acquiring nuclear weapons. We abdicate or moral responsibility by not being in a position to defend those core values.

JCM '12!

802 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:19:04am

re: #790 rightymouse

It was unbelievable. And the thing of it is, the girl is likely to do that again if she knows the worst that will happen is to be removed from the room/pool/store/restaurant with no other serious consequence.

It's harder to deal with in public than in private, that's for sure. I agree with Mandy that a swat on the butt might have been appropriate, but then some do-gooder would have thought it was child abuse.

803 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:19:13am

re: #724 J.D. Ah geez {J.D.} I'd forgotten about that surgery. I swear if it's something that didn't happen yesterday, I don't remember it very well anymore.
So Sorry and hope that you are on schedule for recovery!

804 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:19:22am

re: #782 MandyManners

I bet she needed to be some place other than a bright pool patio with loud music at that time of day. Maybe a nap was in order. But, so was a smart smack on the butt or two about 15 seconds into it and a prompt removal. No way in heck would I have subjected the others to that scene.

Parents are loathe to smack their kids in public these days, but that's exactly what she needed in addition to being removed from the scene.

805 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:19:26am

re: #782 MandyManners

I bet she needed to be some place other than a bright pool patio with loud music at that time of day. Maybe a nap was in order. But, so was a smart smack on the butt or two about 15 seconds into it and a prompt removal. No way in heck would I have subjected the others to that scene.

Bottom-smacking in public?
Tsk tsk tsk - that'll get you a visit from the police here in the UK.
True, folks: smacking has been made illegal, because its 'cruel'.

Not that this ban has prevented any of those perverted parents from shaking and beating their toddlers to death ...

That girl has a full-blown tantrum, and a proper parent ought to know the signs for when that starts, and remove her pronto.

806 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:19:34am

re: #799 Luigi

Drudge has that refusal to accept TARP repayments...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

thanks

807 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:20:03am

re: #789 MandyManners

Hey MM. How much did you pay for your cancer sticks? I am paying $2.80 here atm.

808 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:20:48am

re: #795 MandyManners

Maybe she just needed a nap to avert that melt-down.

That's possible, but hitting her mother and "I'm going to kill you!" says there are more parenting issues going on than over doing it at the pool one afternoon.

809 Athos  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:20:52am

re: #780 FrogMarch

I wonder what bank he is talking about?

From This analytical report on banks and TARP:

Analysts at Keefe Bruyette & Woods said 184 companies have indicated they will not tap the TARP, and at least five major banks hope to repay their infusions soon: Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase & Co, Northern Trust Corp, PNC Financial Services Group Inc and U.S. Bancorp.

Others are also eyeing repayments. Bank of America Chief Executive Kenneth Lewis has said the largest U.S. bank could repay TARP money this year if the economy cooperates. Morgan Stanley Chief Executive John Mack told Congress he wants to repay that bank's $10 billion infusion as soon as possible.

KBW said at least five smaller lenders have filed to repay TARP money: Bank of Marin Bancorp, Iberiabank Corp, Signature Bank, Sun Bancorp Inc and TCF Financial Corp.

And it identified seven banks that it said could repay TARP money with existing capital: Goldman, Morgan Stanley, City National Corp, Comerica Inc, SCBT Financial Corp, Sterling Bancshares Inc and Trustmark.

It seems the new conditions and conrols being extended by the current Administraiton on the companies that accepted TARP funds are the main reasons why these firms are looking to repay the TARP funds as quickly as possible. It is politics. And given the general silence over Fannie and Freddie paying 210M in rethention bonuses to the pinheads (and so well connected to the Dems) who caused the intial housing / credit crisis (as compared to AIG) - it's politics at its worse.

Pretty soon, even the sycophants in the MSM will not be able to spin and cover for this Administration.

810 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:20:55am

re: #797 JCM

aww shucks
*blush*

What a blessing you are to these children.

811 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:21:01am

I was with my son (he was 14) in the Dentist's office and all the chairs were taken.
An elderly man and his wife came in.
Travis got out of his chair next to me and gave it to the woman.
She said "He did not have to do that."
I looked at her and said "Yes, he did."
Now he is 21 and I am still proud of him and of his manners.

812 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:22:43am

Powerline and others have noticed that the mainstream media (even Fox) has suppressed the news of Obama's bow to the Saudi king.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

President Obama's obsequious bow to the King of Saudi Arabia during his current European trip is a deeply guarded secret of the mainstream media, the New York Times and Washington Post foremost among them. Even FOX News has kept the lid on the story.

813 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:22:47am

re: #787 MandyManners

The adults must remain cool and non-emotional or else the child will get a pay-off in seeing them upset.


There are times when it's ok for the parents to get mad.

814 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:22:49am

re: #786 realwest

Sorry to hear about your hay fever! It's one thing I used to have as a child/teenager, but seem to have outgrown or swapped for other allergies.
As for Japan, it's sort of a predicament. Despite WWII and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese people, historically at least, have always seen themselves as "superior" to others - especially to Black and Caucasian people and of course their history is chock full of attempts to expand their spheres of influence. If they start to believe (and I'd wager that they already have) that the USA cannot be counted on to protect them, they'll go militarily viral in a nanosecond - even today's generation of young Japanese are NOT gonna let anyone screw around with them. They have been able to rely on the US and have abided by their (US imposed) constitution for 50+ years now, but there's no doubt at all in my mind that they'll do whatever is best for Japan and if the US, Nork, China or anyone else doesn't like it, methinks Japan will, diplomatically, tell 'em ALL to go piss up a rope. I'd much rather have Japan as an ally than South Korea or China for that matter.


Exactly!
The same, on a smaller scale, also applies to south Korea: if they think that the USA is no longer going to protect them, they may well gear up and invade the North, regardless of Obowma, China and the rest - but probably with the tacit understanding of Japan.

This is a pretty stinky kettle of fish, and PB0 is totally out of his depth, as is Hillary and all their advisers.

815 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:23:47am

re: #806 albusteve

By the was that story is another one making the rounds that's full of shit. They're waiting for stress tests to be done before they can give the money back. The tests should be finished in the next week or two it think.

816 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:23:58am

re: #809 Athos

It seems the new conditions and conrols being extended by the current Administraiton on the companies that accepted TARP funds are the main reasons why these firms are looking to repay the TARP funds as quickly as possible. It is politics. And given the general silence over Fannie and Freddie paying 210M in rethention bonuses to the pinheads (and so well connected to the Dems) who caused the intial housing / credit crisis (as compared to AIG) - it's politics at its worse.

Pretty soon, even the sycophants in the MSM will not be able to spin and cover for this Administration.


Indeed. The Barney Frank/Maxine Waters left were the first crisis domino, and the MSM have completely given these financially inept (D)'s a pass.

817 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:24:09am

Good morning everyone!

818 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:24:42am

re: #791 Bobibutu

Mandy ... you may enjoy this.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Incredible! I can imagine the hours and hours of practice that takes.

819 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:24:56am

re: #794 albusteve

I read this when I woke up then could not find it to post....this is profoundly disturbing on several levels...these banks need to go public bigtime with this repay issue...it's contrary to general American principles I'd think....I hope this really snowballs

yes, it is.

820 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:25:27am

re: #799 Luigi

Drudge has that refusal to accept TARP repayments...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Yeah, that's the Varney Op Ed in the WSJ, it's kinda thin on facts and details. I'd like to see some other sources reporting that the WH is refusing repayment. That would be a huge news story if proven true.

/now that it's clear that TARP funds come with Barney Frank on your back, most of the banks are indicating that they can't pay these loans off fast enough

821 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:25:46am

re: #802 Sharmuta

It's harder to deal with in public than in private, that's for sure. I agree with Mandy that a swat on the butt might have been appropriate, but then some do-gooder would have thought it was child abuse.

Yep. That's part of the problem today with normal child discipline in public. Used to be folks would cheer if a brat kid got smacked in public, now they stand aghast and tut-tut about child abuse, which is ridiculous.

822 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:25:55am

re: #792 Sharmuta

Yeah- I'm really kind of disturbed by that.

I hope she heard that from older siblings/cousins/whoever instead of her parents.

823 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:25:58am

re: #817 FrogMarch

Good morning everyone!

Ribbit. Morning

824 Athos  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #814 yma o hyd

This is a pretty stinky kettle of fish, and PB0 is totally out of his depth, as is Hillary and all their advisers.

Unfortunately, they are in the process of learning a very hard lesson that will have repercussions for many - that their naive worldview also centered on 'hope and change' has no relation with the real world - including the fact that evil exists and is running its agenda. It's clear that when this Administration looks to the 1930's (New Deal) for its justidication for actions, they have totally failed to learn any of the lessons from that era.

825 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:26:47am

re: #802 Sharmuta

It's harder to deal with in public than in private, that's for sure. I agree with Mandy that a swat on the butt might have been appropriate, but then some do-gooder would have thought it was child abuse.

Maybe she got one later.

826 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:26:55am

re: #815 Killgore Trout

By the was that story is another one making the rounds that's full of shit. They're waiting for stress tests to be done before they can give the money back. The tests should be finished in the next week or two it think.

I'm just a country boy...nothing BO does surprises me...he has already tried strongarm as a political tactic...but you are right, we shall see

827 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:27:00am

re: #802 Sharmuta

It's harder to deal with in public than in private, that's for sure. I agree with Mandy that a swat on the butt might have been appropriate, but then some do-gooder would have thought it was child abuse.

It starts early. Tantrums start around two. The best thing is to completely ignore it, it's easiest if it's at home. Completely and utter indifference to the behavior. With ours it only happened a few times, and they realize they get nothing from that behavior.

By the time they are as old as in that video that behavior has be reinforced many times.

828 republic  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:27:02am

re: #759 callahan23

Good morning to all Lizards.
It is a brilliant spring day where I live.


Ronald Reagan, Yeah, Yeah and Yeah.
BUT, I beg your pardon the U.-f*cking-N. has discredited itself a long time ago.

I have referred to them as the U.seless N.uisance for years now.

The U.N. is like ACORN at a world level.

829 ciaospirit  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:27:49am

re: #783 Sharmuta

JCM is a real hero.

Yep. And others like him. Meanwhile the world hails BHO and the wife, who have done nothing but spend their entire lives trying to attain wealth and power. Michelle hangs out with kids now because it costs her nothing and keeps her in the spotlight.

830 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:28:13am

re: #804 rightymouse

Parents are loathe to smack their kids in public these days, but that's exactly what she needed in addition to being removed from the scene.

Sometimes a parent has to do what is necessary on the spot and deal with the consequences later but, in an area covered with anti-spanking fanatics, I can understand not doing it at the time.

831 SurferDoc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:28:15am

re: #762 redc1c4

we're off for another sailing adventure with Slokat..... if i'm not here for the LNDT, somebody call the Coast Guard.....

(or look for news reports of pirates attacking ethanol tanks %-)

Good luck and godspeed, red.

832 nyc redneck  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:28:16am

re: #791 Bobibutu

Mandy ... you may enjoy this.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

that was absolutely delightful. what skill and precision.
and energy. anyone who hasn't ever jumped rope has no idea how in shape
those girls are.

833 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:28:38am

re: #805 yma o hyd

Bottom-smacking in public?
Tsk tsk tsk - that'll get you a visit from the police here in the UK.
True, folks: smacking has been made illegal, because its 'cruel'.

Not that this ban has prevented any of those perverted parents from shaking and beating their toddlers to death ...

That girl has a full-blown tantrum, and a proper parent ought to know the signs for when that starts, and remove her pronto.


I'd be in jail if I lived in the UK. Spanking is sometimes necessary. Real effective if not used often.

834 itellu3times  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:29:05am

ABC News this morning has Ariana Huffington as a panel member, she blames Bush for the Nork missile launch.

She took a swipe at George Will, implying that when he denied there is really a cohesive "community of nations" he was suggesting we end diplomacy with Nork. Will pointed out he didn't say to end diplomacy, and that when Woodrow Wilson asked Clemenceau if it was not true that all men were brothers, Clemenceau replied, "Caine and Abel". Smackdown!

Main guest was Susan Rice, who to my happy surprise, didn't say anything really stupid (that I recall, but I was in the kitchen half the time).

835 callahan23  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #828 republic

I have referred to them as the U.seless N.uisance for years now.

The U.N. is like ACORN at a world level.

Agreed. LOL: U.seless N.uisance
A very low level indeed.

836 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:29:21am

re: #825 MandyManners

Maybe she got one later.

Fuck public opinion. I don't smack my kids anymore, because they are 9 and 11 and can understand right from wrong. When they were younger I had no problem bringing the hand onto their backside. In public or not.

837 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:29:28am

re: #817 FrogMarch

Good morning everyone!

Good morning, FrogMarch!

838 republic  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:30:24am

re: #766 opnion

The Notre Dame, Obama Commencement speech controversy rages on.
Father Jenkins says that although he doesn't agree with Obama on everything , this is an opportunity for dialog.
That is nonsense, Obama will be there to be honored with an honorary Doctor of Laws, not to debate.
It really doesn't matter how people feel about pro choice personally, this is a Catholic University & they are honoring a guy who promotes the Freedom of Choice Act which would require Catholic hospitals to perform abortions & who supported infanticide as a State Senator.

The Catholic hospitals have frankly stated that will ALL close if forced to perform abortions.

In Obama's scheme of things, that may be exactly what he wants, as the Fed could then also take complete control of the hospital system.

839 tradewind  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:30:49am

re: #648 yma o hyd

Probably the mere hint that we're not inviting them to keep their usual prominent seat at next year's G20 summit will elicit a heartfelt apology with promise to never ever do it again....
/sarc/
As if they got sumpin' to lose.

840 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:31:06am

re: #830 MandyManners

Sometimes a parent has to do what is necessary on the spot and deal with the consequences later but, in an area covered with anti-spanking fanatics, I can understand not doing it at the time.

I can understand that too. On the other hand, as JCM points out in #827, the girl's behavior has likely been reinforced.

841 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:31:39am

re: #821 rightymouse

Yep. That's part of the problem today with normal child discipline in public. Used to be folks would cheer if a brat kid got smacked in public, now they stand aghast and tut-tut about child abuse, which is ridiculous.

I witnessed a horrible situation on the bus one evening. A toddler in his stroller wanted some of his mother's juice, so she handed him the bottle. She proceeded to look away for a minute and then looked back at the boy to see he was dribbling juice all over himself, so she took the juice bottle away and popped him in the mouth. He said something like, "I hate you" to which she popped him in the mouth again. I was so appalled, I didn't know what to do. I had to restrain myself from reaching over and popping her in the mouth. Now I wish I had told her that if I saw her do it one more time I was going to call the police. It was her own fault for not paying attention to her child that he was making a mess, but he got hit in the face for it. What a bitch.

842 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:32:07am

re: #840 rightymouse

I can understand that too. On the other hand, as JCM points out in #827, the girl's behavior has likely been reinforced.

from the very beginning...this behavior is learned

843 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #829 ciaospirit

Yep. And others like him. Meanwhile the world hails BHO and the wife, who have done nothing but spend their entire lives trying to attain wealth and power. Michelle hangs out with kids now because it costs her nothing and keeps her in the spotlight.

I can't help but think that Obama's "mandatory volunteer" will turn off kids to the idea of community service. When it's required it's a chore and obligation. Whether it's foster care, or service with the volunteer fire department, or just picking up trash along a road. It has to come from within.

Volunteerism comes out of the individual spirit and love for his fellows people. Obama wants to nationalize even that.

844 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #832 nyc redneck

that was absolutely delightful. what skill and precision.
and energy. anyone who hasn't ever jumped rope has no idea how in shape
those girls are.

The Navy and Army guys in the stands were loving every second of it, as was I.

845 BaseballMom57  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:33:21am

re: #764 JCM

There are bigger and better mansions in Heaven for people like you and your Missus, JCM.

Bless you for the good you do.

{hug}

846 tradewind  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:33:37am

re: #838 republic

He's already got his J.D., and one more won't mean anything to him, but I have a strong feeling that no nurse, MD, or practitioner, Catholic or otherwise, who strongly opposes abortion, will be found participating in an abortion against his or her will. I've heard it is difficult enough for most of those who believe in 'choice'.

847 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:33:42am

re: #838 republic

The Catholic hospitals have frankly stated that will ALL close if forced to perform abortions.

In Obama's scheme of things, that may be exactly what he wants, as the Fed could then also take complete control of the hospital system.

Bingo! You are exactly right.

848 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:34:03am

re: #818 MandyManners

Incredible! I can imagine the hours and hours of practice that takes.

Boggled my mind ...

849 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:34:08am

re: #841 Sharmuta

I witnessed a horrible situation on the bus one evening. A toddler in his stroller wanted some of his mother's juice, so she handed him the bottle. She proceeded to look away for a minute and then looked back at the boy to see he was dribbling juice all over himself, so she took the juice bottle away and popped him in the mouth. He said something like, "I hate you" to which she popped him in the mouth again. I was so appalled, I didn't know what to do. I had to restrain myself from reaching over and popping her in the mouth. Now I wish I had told her that if I saw her do it one more time I was going to call the police. It was her own fault for not paying attention to her child that he was making a mess, but he got hit in the face for it. What a bitch.

That's abuse. And yes, she's a bitch. Disgusting.

850 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:34:24am

re: #837 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, FrogMarch!


{Scottishbuzzsaw}

"There's no silence in the night! Frogs!"

Who is that?

851 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:34:28am

re: #841 Sharmuta

I witnessed a horrible situation on the bus one evening. A toddler in his stroller wanted some of his mother's juice, so she handed him the bottle. She proceeded to look away for a minute and then looked back at the boy to see he was dribbling juice all over himself, so she took the juice bottle away and popped him in the mouth. He said something like, "I hate you" to which she popped him in the mouth again. I was so appalled, I didn't know what to do. I had to restrain myself from reaching over and popping her in the mouth. Now I wish I had told her that if I saw her do it one more time I was going to call the police. It was her own fault for not paying attention to her child that he was making a mess, but he got hit in the face for it. What a bitch.

That is not discipline that is child abuse.

852 Athos  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:34:29am

re: #843 JCM

Volunteerism comes out of the individual spirit and love for his fellows people. Obama wants to nationalize even that.

It is the intent and goal of the statist to remove all individual focus and replace it with a focus on the state.

853 tradewind  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:34:58am

re: #847 opnion

And he's married to a quasi hospital administrator, who is probably the author of the idea.

854 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:35:03am

re: #805 yma o hyd

Bottom-smacking in public?
Tsk tsk tsk - that'll get you a visit from the police here in the UK.
True, folks: smacking has been made illegal, because its 'cruel'.

Not that this ban has prevented any of those perverted parents from shaking and beating their toddlers to death ...

That girl has a full-blown tantrum, and a proper parent ought to know the signs for when that starts, and remove her pronto.

Gee. I wonder when they'll get around to forbidding parents from giving "The Look" to a kid. Or, saying "no".

I structured my life around The Kid's nap schedule and times when I knew he might not be fit for public consumption. It sucked for me because it reduced my ability to go places when I wanted but, it was the only thing to do.

That didn't mean he never pitched a fit in public. I would pick him up and leave the building even if it meant leaving groceries--I'd zip by cutomer service and ask them to hold the buggie. Then, I'd take him out to the car to cool down/get his attitude adjusted. Or, I'd take him home and come back later.

He acted a horse's butt last week at the park--the first time in ages--when he stomped his foot and said "NO!" after I told him it was time to go home. He's not been back since but, today is the day the time-out is up. If he does anything other than say, "yes ma'am" as he heads to the car, he'll not go for five days.

855 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:35:37am

re: #850 FrogMarch

Red Skelton.

856 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:35:42am

re: #807 Erik The Red

Hey MM. How much did you pay for your cancer sticks? I am paying $2.80 here atm.

Marlboro's are $50.00/ctn.

857 Luigi  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:35:51am

*/ Outta here. Have a nice day. We're looking at a classic early Spring day.

858 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:36:23am

re: #788 JCM

We have a moral responsibility alright.

To protect and defend Life, Liberty, Property & Pursuit of Happiness wherever we find it.

Those who hate those things are hell bent on acquiring nuclear weapons. We abdicate or moral responsibility by not being in a position to defend those core values.

Which, I believe, directly contradicts just about everything Obummer has stated and projected in this overseas fiasco, especially missile defense as it would apply to the Euro's vis-a-vis Poland and the Czech's. Am I mistaken?

859 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:36:27am

re: #808 Sharmuta

That's possible, but hitting her mother and "I'm going to kill you!" says there are more parenting issues going on than over doing it at the pool one afternoon.

I don't envy her future Pre-K or Kindergarten teachers.

860 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:36:44am

re: #849 rightymouse

I still wonder about that. I feel bad- I should have called the authorities. I hate to stick my nose in where it doesn't belong, but I'd hate worse to think that kid's getting abused. I felt stuck.

861 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:37:11am

re: #811 LindaMarie

I was with my son (he was 14) in the Dentist's office and all the chairs were taken.
An elderly man and his wife came in.
Travis got out of his chair next to me and gave it to the woman.
She said "He did not have to do that."
I looked at her and said "Yes, he did."
Now he is 21 and I am still proud of him and of his manners.

BRAVO!

862 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:37:14am

Mornin Honcos.

863 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:37:33am

re: #855 scottishbuzzsaw

Red Skelton.

oh! lol - I couldn't place the voice. Silly me.

864 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:37:39am

re: #853 tradewind

And he's married to a quasi hospital administrator, who is probably the author of the idea.

Could be. At the very least she was guilty of patient dumping at the Uof C med Ctr, a tax exempt institution. These are lovely people.

865 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:37:59am
KABUL — Responding to criticism from around the world, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Saturday that a new law that critics say makes it legal for men to rape their wives will be studied and possibly sent back to parliament for review.

Karzai said he ordered the Justice Ministry to review the law, and if anything in it contravenes the country's constitution or Shariah law, "measures will be taken."

The law, signed by Karzai last month, is intended to regulate family life inside Afghanistan's Shiite community, which makes up 10 percent to 20 percent of the country's 30 million people.

One of the law's most controversial articles legislates the frequency of sexual relations between Shiite husbands and wives. Article 132 says the husband has a right to sex every fourth night unless the wife is ill.

Karzai did not mention Article 132 during a news conference Saturday. But he said he had studied the law earlier in the day and that "I don't see any problems with it."


He complained that Western media outlets had mistranslated it. He read an article of the law during the news conference that appears to restrict Shiite women's right to leave their homes, though Karzai underscored a provision that allows women to leave in emergencies.

*spit*

866 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:38:21am

re: #807 Erik The Red

re: #856 MandyManners

Marlboro's are $50.00/ctn.

National talk show host Nike McConnel (sp?) was speculating that the new crime wave will be people stealing cartons of cigs and reselling packs 50% off retail. He said it will lead to a whole new crime wave

867 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:38:42am

re: #854 MandyManners

Conditioning works.

868 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:38:53am

re: #813 rightymouse

There are times when it's ok for the parents to get mad.

It's always okay to get mad at the child in this situation but, letting her know that she has the power to "make" you feel/act a certain way is--to me, at least--a bad idea.

869 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:39:02am

I didn't see any missiles here in Hawaii. Maybe Obama acted decisively and shot that buggah down before it hit us?

870 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:39:08am

re: #866 sattv4u2

re: #856 MandyManners


National talk show host Nike McConnel (sp?) was speculating that the new crime wave will be people stealing cartons of cigs and reselling packs 50% off retail. He said it will lead to a whole new crime wave

perpertrated by the GOV'T trying to "save us' from the evils of tobacco

871 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:39:12am

re: #727 SixDegrees
Well I certainly understand your point

Those aren't the problems I raised. I wasn't talking about shitty reporting, which is certainly a problem. But it's another problem, unrelated to the potential loss of historical documentation that the loss of mass-printed information brings. Or to the problem that with the demise of newspapers comes the demise of nearly all actual reporting, good or bad.

[emphasis added realwest] but I question the value of the loss of historically inaccurate documentation. Charles gave an interview on PJMTV a few weeks or so ago, in which he pretty much blamed the drop in circulation in Newspapers on their undeniable left wing bias, not JUST in their Opinion/Editorial pages, but in the reporting of the news as well. He went on to say that "on-line" versions of Newspapers still faced the same problem: how to make money when your viewers don't really trust what you report to be accurate.
And I think part of the newspaper business going down is the unfortunate reliance on AP, AFP and Reuters as opposed to having their own boots in the field so to speak. And no, I don't mean the Detroit Free Press, I mean the NYT, WaPo, LATimes, Chicago Tribune and the like. Even without biased and untrustworthy reporting, they just can't compete with TV news (iirc, the reason CNN was such a hit in it's early years was that it did in fact put it's boots on the ground - e.g., being in Baghdad when the air assault started and reporting LIVE from the scene).
And, for what little it's worth, Charles broke open Rathergate - a clear attempt by CBS to swing voters from Bush to Kerry - by using technology to bust 'em; the TANG memo's were fake, but weren't intended to be published the way you'd expect a newspaper to do it, but Charles got hold of the TANG memo, opened up a pc on it's default settings and reproduced the TANG memo character by character - the "trobbing memo".
So while a part of me will miss newspapers (and I don't think they will ever go completely away, but their influence will certainly wane) I will not miss all of the inaccurate, incomplete and biased reporting that comes with them.

872 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:39:23am

re: #866 sattv4u2

re: #856 MandyManners

National talk show host Nike McConnel (sp?) was speculating that the new crime wave will be people stealing cartons of cigs and reselling packs 50% off retail. He said it will lead to a whole new crime wave

I wouldn't doubt it. Seriously.

873 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:39:43am

I'm getting JetBlue pop-up ads for no reason both here and at another site. I'm gonna' reboot. bbiab

Why is this happening?

874 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:39:45am

re: #849 rightymouse

I spanked my daughter once for running away to play hide and seek in a big box store...I never spanked my son...but I was always very firm with them and as close as a father can be...even as little kids the worst thing in the world for them was if dad was upset or disappointed with them for some reason...I never explained anything twice to them....25 yrs later nothing has changed

875 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:40:19am

re: #865 LindaMarie

One of the law's most controversial articles legislates the frequency of sexual relations between Shiite husbands and wives. Article 132 says the husband has a right to sex every fourth night unless the wife is ill.

Wassamattah wit dat?

876 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:40:21am

re: #872 Sharmuta

I wouldn't doubt it. Seriously.

With the retail price where it is now, people can make thousands a week selling them hot

877 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:40:37am

re: #852 Athos

It is the intent and goal of the statist to remove all individual focus and replace it with a focus on the state.

I've seen this with my own eyes and not just once in the farm communities my family came from.

A families barn or home burns, the fire department shows up and not a person risking life and limb on the fire department is paid a penny. After all is said and done neighbors take in the family.

The next weekend hundreds of people show up, to rebuild and repair the buildings. Others spend the day bringing food and cooking for everyone working. Still others bring furnishing, livestock and equipment to replace what was lost.

Nobody organized the community. It was and is in many places a way of life.

878 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:40:45am

re: #873 MandyManners

I'm getting JetBlue pop-up ads for no reason both here and at another site. I'm gonna' reboot. bbiab

Why is this happening?

someone wants you to fly away ,,, FAST !

879 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:40:49am

re: #866 sattv4u2

re: #856 MandyManners

National talk show host Nike McConnel (sp?) was speculating that the new crime wave will be people stealing cartons of cigs and reselling packs 50% off retail. He said it will lead to a whole new crime wave

I need a job when I get back////

880 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:40:53am

re: #809 Athos

It seems the new conditions and conrols being extended by the current Administraiton on the companies that accepted TARP funds are the main reasons why these firms are looking to repay the TARP funds as quickly as possible. It is politics. And given the general silence over Fannie and Freddie paying 210M in rethention bonuses to the pinheads (and so well connected to the Dems) who caused the intial housing / credit crisis (as compared to AIG) - it's politics at its worse.

Pretty soon, even the sycophants in the MSM will not be able to spin and cover for this Administration.

You sure look nice over there in the corner, all full of idealism, fair play, and the American Way.

Been out of the house much, lately?

881 BaseballMom57  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:41:04am

re: #811 LindaMarie

I was with my son (he was 14) in the Dentist's office and all the chairs were taken.
An elderly man and his wife came in.
Travis got out of his chair next to me and gave it to the woman.
She said "He did not have to do that."
I looked at her and said "Yes, he did."
Now he is 21 and I am still proud of him and of his manners.

Oh my gosh. I would have cried, had I witnessed that! Kudos to your boy, and to YOU, who obviously did a great job at modeling this kind of behavior.

882 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:42:18am

re: #873 MandyManners

Malware and spyware

883 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:42:27am

re: #879 Erik The Red

I need a job when I get back////

STEP 1, buy a van with no windows on the sides
STEP 2, Knock over a 7/11,,,,,
STEP 3, find a good corner
STEP 4,, word of mouth advertising all brands of cigs for cheap
STEP 5 ,,,retire

884 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #856 MandyManners

Marlboro's are $50.00/ctn.

I buy Pall Mall lights for 2.50 a pack on the rez...one pack lasts three days...it's extremely difficult for me to quit but I keep trying...

885 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:42:45am

re: #876 sattv4u2

With the retail price where it is now, people can make thousands a week selling them hot

A couple years ago, smoke shop crime started going up. The big thing was driving a car into the doors or windows to break in. Shops started putting bars over the windows and doors to stop it. Those that didn't would be wise to consider such measures now, because I for one don't doubt you.

886 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:43:11am

re: #860 Sharmuta

I still wonder about that. I feel bad- I should have called the authorities. I hate to stick my nose in where it doesn't belong, but I'd hate worse to think that kid's getting abused. I felt stuck.


I know what you mean. It's a conundrum. What were the reactions from other passengers? Anyone else paying attention?

Here's a little girl throwing a hissy fit. People have probably seen this one, but the Mom is doing the absolute correct thing by not flipping out.

887 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:44:01am

re: #885 Sharmuta

A couple years ago, smoke shop crime started going up. The big thing was driving a car into the doors or windows to break in. Shops started putting bars over the windows and doors to stop it. Those that didn't would be wise to consider such measures now, because I for one don't doubt you.

Most of that was to get the pricey high end cigars (with the emergence of Cigar Bars).

Now it will be for Winstons, Marlboros, and Kools

888 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:44:21am

re: #869 BigPapa

I didn't see any missiles here in Hawaii. Maybe Obama acted decisively and shot that buggah down before it hit us?

[Link: www.norad.mil...]

PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo. — North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command officials acknowledged today that North Korea launched a Taepo Dong 2 missile at 10:30 p.m. EDT Saturday which passed over the Sea of Japan/East Sea and the nation of Japan.

Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan/East Sea. The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean.

No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan.

NORAD and USNORTHCOM assessed the space launch vehicle as not a threat to North America or Hawaii and took no action in response to this launch.

This is all of the information that will be provided by NORAD and USNORTHCOM pertaining to the launch.

889 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:45:19am

re: #886 rightymouse

The other passengers on the bus were just as uncomfortable as I was. She had 2 other kids with her, and she was young. Perhaps she was in over her head and a program to help teach her how to deal with her parenting stress would serve her well, but now I fear no one will take the time to get her the help she needs and those kids are going to suffer. I still feel I failed those kids.

890 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:45:47am

re: #745 FrogMarch
Great article FrogMarch - but how can the Treasury REFUSE to accept the money?
IMO, the bank should send the check in, knowing that there may be political repercussions, but also knowing that in the court of public opinion I think Obama and Geithner will lose this fight and lose it badly.

891 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:45:58am

re: #883 sattv4u2

STEP 1, buy a van with no windows on the sides
STEP 2, Knock over a 7/11,,,,,
STEP 3, find a good corner
STEP 4,, word of mouth advertising all brands of cigs for cheap
STEP 5 ,,,retire

Retire where a State Pen. Better to hijack a truck and sell the smokes to 7/11 at half price. Everyone wins.

892 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:45:59am

re: #871 realwest

Newspapers are going out of business because they suck. After that, pressure from the internet and economy. But the sucking has been there a while, making them weak enough that the other dynamics are hurting even more.

Interesting irony:

Watching local weak news about Seattle paper that just closed up. They reported the 'tough economy and recession' as the reason the paper closed. I had to explain the guffaw to the missus.

Anyhoo, I think Charles is right. Being printed on paper or on the internet is after the fact: the quality and fundamental shift in the product has not made the consumer want it anymore.

893 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:46:28am

re: #874 albusteve

I spanked my daughter once for running away to play hide and seek in a big box store...I never spanked my son...but I was always very firm with them and as close as a father can be...even as little kids the worst thing in the world for them was if dad was upset or disappointed with them for some reason...I never explained anything twice to them....25 yrs later nothing has changed

My son got smacked on his butt when he was younger. My hubby never smacked any of the kids. His raised voice was enough to send chills down their spines and they would run for cover.

894 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:46:29am

re: #891 Erik The Red

Retire where a State Pen. Better to hijack a truck and sell the smokes to 7/11 at half price. Everyone wins.

cept the truck driver!

895 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:47:02am

re: #873 MandyManners

You have a trojan.

896 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:48:15am

re: #892 BigPapa

Newspapers are going out of business because they suck

Not really. They're going out of business because by the time the paper is on your kitchen table in the morning everything in there is OLD NEWS. It's been covered to death by cable and the internet!

Anything that happens after the morning paper goes to print doesn't kmake it into that days paper, and again, it's old news

897 itellu3times  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:48:49am

re: #873 MandyManners

I'm getting JetBlue pop-up ads for no reason both here and at another site. I'm gonna' reboot. bbiab

Why is this happening?

Gotta be malware.

898 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:50:23am

re: #889 Sharmuta

The other passengers on the bus were just as uncomfortable as I was. She had 2 other kids with her, and she was young. Perhaps she was in over her head and a program to help teach her how to deal with her parenting stress would serve her well, but now I fear no one will take the time to get her the help she needs and those kids are going to suffer. I still feel I failed those kids.

Grrrrrrrrr.....women having children when they are too young to cope. Hopefully, someone in her life will help her.

899 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:50:46am

re: #895 BigPapa

You have a trojan.

Please. Let's not have a condom thread. :)

900 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:51:09am

re: #890 realwest

Great article FrogMarch - but how can the Treasury REFUSE to accept the money?
IMO, the bank should send the check in, knowing that there may be political repercussions, but also knowing that in the court of public opinion I think Obama and Geithner will lose this fight and lose it badly.

Maybe they should send cash. Does it still say, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"?

901 JCM  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:51:33am

re: #899 rightymouse

Please. Let's not have a condom thread. :)

We cover all topics at LGF!

902 Athos  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:53:02am

re: #877 JCM

Nobody organized the community. It was and is in many places a way of life.

That is the core strength and uniqueness about America that made this country what it was.

In far too many places, however, this is changing and being changed by the statist. This is one of the biggest warnings from Levin's Liberty and Tyranny.

903 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:53:11am

re: #899 rightymouse

Please. Let's not have a condom thread. :)

Surely this thread is elastic enough to cover everything.

904 callahan23  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:53:11am

re: #871 realwest

..... So while a part of me will miss newspapers (and I don't think they will ever go completely away, but their influence will certainly wane) I will not miss all of the inaccurate, incomplete and biased reporting that comes with them.

There is also the fact that tabloids seem to continue to thrive.
The Bild-Zeitung the biggest tabloid in Germany by far is currently looking into opportunities to invest even in abroad.
So on the one hand the so-called respectable newspapers go to the dumps while on the other hand the unsavory tabloids grow.

905 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:53:25am

re: #854 MandyManners

Oh, some moonbat scientists are already saying that even shouting at your kids may lay the basis for neuroses later in life! Yeah, it should be banned, too ...
Seeing the hordes of well-adjusted kids in our towns and cities, that worked out really well!
/very heavy sarc!

As far as I'm concerned, train them as you would train your puppy: praise for good behaviour, immediate punishment for things you don't want to see - and that doesn't mean using the broomstick on their behinds, but just the removal of what gave them pleasure being naughty, and banishment to their rooms/crates/boxes.

Gotta have eyes in the back of one's head and be prepared for all sorts of surprises, but it works well.
Mind - I'd rather have my kids adventurous, inquisitive, polite and muddy with torn clothes from playing outdoors than being horrible, tantrum-throwing little emperors and princesses!

906 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:53:28am

Lizards! I think I have it figured out!
You know back when БХО was campaigning and he uttered "all 57 states" or somesuch thing? With the recent move by Congress to grant full voting representation to the District of Columbia, may be the beginning of an eventual move by the Demo☭rats to grant the same to other entities.
Puerto Rico and Guam are obvious. So what would the other four states be? I present to you the following city-states:
NYC
LA
Chicago
SF

These four cities could, if brought to its full conclusion, be split away from their respective states (and perhaps ending those states' respective headaches, which brings it up to 57 states. And there you have it.

What say ye?

907 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:55:23am

re: #798 Bobibutu
Hello my friend - I got some rest, yes, but not enough. If y'all get a chance, please check your e-mail!

908 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:55:34am

re: #893 rightymouse

My son got smacked on his butt when he was younger. My hubby never smacked any of the kids. His raised voice was enough to send chills down their spines and they would run for cover.

I spanked my son on his butt when he was 11, because he ran out to my car to get away from chewing him out for something else he did. He's probably hated me from that moment forward.

909 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:55:44am

re: #897 itellu3times


Microsoft has BitDefender a free software for malware and spyware.
There are other free products on the web.
Some good, some not --
but MS's one is "clean" and will not infect you computer with their malware while cleaniing out the compention.
Not that many are not good, just be careful.

910 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:56:22am

re: #908 Macker

I spanked my son on his butt when he was 11, because he ran out to my car to get away from chewing him out for something else he did. He's probably hated me from that moment forward.


naaahhh ,, he hated you LONG before that !


/////

911 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:56:38am

re: #799 Luigi That's just a link to the same link FrogMarch had.

912 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:57:17am

re: #901 JCM

We cover all topics at LGF!


Gaaaackckckckckck! lol!

913 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:58:39am

re: #903 razorbacker

Surely this thread is elastic enough to cover everything.

That's stretching things a bit.

914 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:59:47am

re: #910 sattv4u2

You're right, but he became openly vocal about that hatred after I spanked him.

915 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 8:59:55am

re: #865 LindaMarie

One of the law's most controversial articles legislates the frequency of sexual relations between Shiite husbands and wives. Article 132 says the husband has a right to sex every fourth night unless the wife is ill.

What if Islamohubby makes her "ill" 24-7-365?
"Oh doctor, may I please trouble you for a little note..."

916 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:01:08am

re: #914 Macker

You're right, but he became openly vocal about that hatred after I spanked him.

I've got a 14 year old,,,, they only get MORE vocal until a certain time, then you're lucky to get more than a grunt out of them!

917 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:01:17am

re: #908 Macker

I spanked my son on his butt when he was 11, because he ran out to my car to get away from chewing him out for something else he did. He's probably hated me from that moment forward.


No way.

918 callahan23  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:01:57am

Sorry forgot the link to an NYT article about the strategies of Bild-Zeitung
re: #871 realwest

..... So while a part of me will miss newspapers (and I don't think they will ever go completely away, but their influence will certainly wane) I will not miss all of the inaccurate, incomplete and biased reporting that comes with them.

There is also the fact that tabloids seem to continue to thrive.
The Bild-Zeitung the biggest tabloid in Germany by far is currently looking into opportunities to invest even in abroad.
So on the one hand the so-called respectable newspapers go to the dumps while on the other hand the 'unsavory' tabloids grow.

919 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:02:43am

re: #814 yma o hyd
I don't think it's the same with South Korea. Someone posted out here .......well recently! that North Korea has THOUSANDS of heavy Artillery guns on their side of the DMZ, which could easily reach Seoul South Korea - home to 10,000,000 people (and most of the 30,000 US troops in S.K.) and, absent some sort of miraculous first strike hit by South Korea that would take out say 95% of those artillery pieces, I doubt South Korea will do much offensively unless attacked.

920 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:06:00am

re: #914 Macker

You're right, but he became openly vocal about that hatred after I spanked him.

He sounds as though he's mad about something unrelated to the spanking and blames you. None of my business, but perhaps talking to him about this could help?

921 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:08:08am

re: #919 realwest

Just thinking outside the box;

But, were I charged with the defense of South Korea, I'd start building various types of eating establishments on the border. Build them side by side all across the border.

So when the day came, the starving NK troops would be distracted.

922 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:08:21am

re: #915 Spare O'Lake

LOL
Won't happen and there are few women doctors - only forgien women doctors that most cannot afford to visit. So no doctor for them.
Like she will say "I need to go see my woman doctor"
He is thinking

Yes pregnant again


If the note is forthcoming is ripped up and thrown at/feed to her.
And the forgien woman doctor is hidden until she can be safely flown out of the country.

923 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:08:37am

re: #919 realwest

absent some sort of miraculous first strike hit by South Korea

Betwen what So Korea has aimed at those garrisons, plus what i'm sure Japan has as well as the US Naval fleet in the area, the No Korea heavy artillary would be decimated within an hour.

True, Seoul would sustain heavy casualties, but the North would handicapped

924 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:10:29am

re: #896 sattv4u2

That's what the newspapers want you to believe. I still like newspapers even though I get news on the internet; flying on a plane, waiting, etc.

I think that's part of the issue, but the lower quality and bias of the print media was getting old. They lost customers because of it.

I would probably buy more WSJ if it were available.

925 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:16:19am

re: #914 Macker

You're right, but he became openly vocal about that hatred after I spanked him.

They are right. Hormones overflowing.
The worst thing you could do is completely back off.
Apoligize if you have not. Stay calm but firm.
Walk away, it will get better if you - as best you can - hold your ground.
Sometimes something like "I am going to see my friend now" (not have to am going/want to - as opposed to wanting to let them be annoying and taking it ) lets the kid get the idea that there is
"life other than child" makes them sometimes think maybe they are not the center of your universe.
Growing up lesson for them.

926 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:21:04am

re: #920 rightymouse

He sounds as though he's mad about something unrelated to the spanking and blames you. None of my business, but perhaps talking to him about this could help?

Long story short: he stopped talking to me six years ago on Father's Day, while I was unemployed. When I moved to AZ in 2004, they were furious because his mother wanted me to be his babysitter instead of his father. They want nothing more to do with me.
I've tried calling him on several occasions, but they hang up on me every time. So, he's now 21, he's his own man, and if he wants to have a relationship with me, he'll have to make that decision. I can't make it for him.
And his mother? She frakked him up but good so Frak her....

927 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:22:00am

My daughter once explained that she 'hated' me and her mother.

I told her that was fine, she didn't have to love us.

That it wasn't our job to produce a loving child. It was our job to turn out a child that would be a net gain for society, rather than another drain on society.

So far, so good.

928 realwest  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:24:36am

Well y'all I gotta go now. Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

929 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:26:39am

Cut and paste mess - sorry.

Sometimes something like "I am going to see my friend now" (not have to am going/want to - as opposed to wanting to let them be annoying and taking it ) lets the kid get the idea that there is
"life other than child"

Let them know you love them and had a life before and will after.
I love my son dearly and would give my blood for him but do not want to have him living with when he is forty. I want him to have a wife and a family of his own.
Your boy is at a vaunerable stage, not child not man.
He is trying to find his place in the world as all real men must. Not so for some women they can hide in the husbands shadow

/ducking

930 LindaMarie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 9:31:08am

re: #926 Macker

I did not understand that this was 21 minus 14 years ago with my response. Math - math 7 years
I am sorry.

931 rightymouse  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:06:03am

re: #926 Macker

Long story short: he stopped talking to me six years ago on Father's Day, while I was unemployed. When I moved to AZ in 2004, they were furious because his mother wanted me to be his babysitter instead of his father. They want nothing more to do with me.
I've tried calling him on several occasions, but they hang up on me every time. So, he's now 21, he's his own man, and if he wants to have a relationship with me, he'll have to make that decision. I can't make it for him.
And his mother? She frakked him up but good so Frak her....

I'm sorry to hear that and I pray that one day, when he matures, he'll make that decision to reconnect with you.


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