The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean. From it we have learned most of what we know. Recently, we have waded a little out to sea, enough to dampen our toes or, at most, wet our ankles. The water seems inviting. The ocean calls.
— Carl Sagan
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MrPaulRevere Mon, May 25, 2009 11:19:25pm |
Speaking of the surface of the earth, check out picture #1, enjoy...[Link: www.komonews.com...]
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MrPaulRevere Mon, May 25, 2009 11:22:01pm |
Hey Sharmuta, remember when I called Aces blog an 'internet frat house'? Check out this admonishment on the front page: "PLEASE. While on this site, tone it down a bit away from the graphic nasty end of things. Dang, people. That 1400+ thread the other night? Too far. Yous guys went a bit too far."
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:22:12pm |
Hooray, a fresh breeze!
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:23:52pm |
The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean. From it we have learned most of what we know. Recently, we have waded a little out to sea, enough to dampen our toes or, at most, wet our ankles. The water seems inviting. The ocean calls.— Carl Sagan
Below is part 1 of the Cosmos episode this is from. The full episode is available here. You can find all the Cosmos episodes here.
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:24:35pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:25:07pm |
re: #5 MrPaulRevere
Well sure- he's managed to gather the rabble that's no longer welcome here. That's what he's going to get, and until he cracks the whip he'll get the "nasty end of things". Seems he's waking up to the problem. I'd feel more sympathetic, but... well. You get what you allow.
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:25:37pm |
Perfect fodder for an open thread.....
Couple throwing rocks off I-5 playing 'stripping game'
LAKEWOOD, Wash. - State Troopers arrested two people early Monday for throwing rocks off a railroad trestle onto cars driving south on Interstate 5.A State Patrol pilot up looking for speeders and drunk drivers spotted two people with a heat-detecting camera.
They appeared to be dropping rocks on cars passing beneath them.
And taking their clothes off.....
Some folks have a cosmic ocean between the ears.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, May 25, 2009 11:25:53pm |
Collect call from.....
....the ocean.
Aw dammit! Don't tell me the ocean is in the drunk tank again.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:26:30pm |
re: #5 MrPaulRevere
Hey Sharmuta, remember when I called Aces blog an 'internet frat house'? Check out this admonishment on the front page: "PLEASE. While on this site, tone it down a bit away from the graphic nasty end of things. Dang, people. That 1400+ thread the other night? Too far. Yous guys went a bit too far."
you make that sound like a *bad* thing.......
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Gus Mon, May 25, 2009 11:28:08pm |
re: #7 gmsc
Below is part 1 of the Cosmos episode this is from. The full episode is available here. You can find all the Cosmos episodes here.
[Video]
I've always been inspired by the vastness of space and the wonder of nature.
I have seen the void of space, yet, I am not afraid.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:28:36pm |
the ocean calls, but for most folks, the water shorted out the speaker. far better to remain safely inside the puddle of accepted knowledge, and not risk the dangers of new ideas........
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Karridine Mon, May 25, 2009 11:29:04pm |
re: #10 jcm
Ear-to-ear desert... dust & sand all the way...
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MrPaulRevere Mon, May 25, 2009 11:29:28pm |
re: #9 Sharmuta
I never understood the 'Ace of Spades lifestyle' schtick with the emphasis on drunkeness and porn. One reaps what one sows, obviously. Funny how Charles never has to admonish us for such foolishness.
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:30:08pm |
re: #15 redc1c4
the ocean calls, but for most folks, the water shorted out the speaker. far better to remain safely inside the puddle of accepted knowledge, and not risk the dangers of new ideas........
Here be Dragons.
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:30:33pm |
re: #13 Floral Giraffe
I'm askeered by that!
Not to askeer you any more, but most of Emily Dickinson's work can be sung to "Gilligan's Island", as well as "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" and "Yellow Rose of Texas".
Try this poem of hers:
Because I could not stop for Death,
He kindly stopped for me;
The carriage held but just ourselves
And Immortality.We slowly drove, he knew no haste,
And I had put away
My labor, and my leisure too,
For his civility.We passed the school, where children strove
At recess, in the ring;
We passed the fields of gazing grain,
We passed the setting sun.Or rather, he passed us;
The dews grew quivering and chill,
For only gossamer my gown,
My tippet only tulle.We paused before a house that seemed
A swelling of the ground;
The roof was scarcely visible,
The cornice but a mound.Since then 'tis centuries, and yet each
Feels shorter than the day
I first surmised the horses' heads
Were toward eternity.
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Karridine Mon, May 25, 2009 11:30:36pm |
re: #15 redc1c4
"Ideas are dangerous!
You ants are soil-shoveling LOSERS,
put on the Earth to serve US!"
Hopper, the Thug of "Ant's Life"
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Killian Bundy Mon, May 25, 2009 11:30:48pm |
Obama and the 'South Park' Gnomes
Consider the 1998 "Gnomes" episode -- possibly surpassing Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose" as the classic defense of capitalism -- in which the children of South Park, Colo., get a lesson in how not to run an enterprise from mysterious little men who go about stealing undergarments from the unsuspecting and collecting them in a huge underground storehouse.
What's the big idea? The gnomes explain:
"Phase One: Collect underpants.
"Phase Two: ?
"Phase Three: Profit."
Lest you think there's a step missing here, that's the whole point. ("What about Phase Two?" asks one of the kids. "Well," answers a gnome, "Phase Three is profits!") This more or less sums up Mr. Obama's speech last week on Guantanamo, in which the president explained how he intended to dispose of the remaining detainees after both houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly against bringing them to the U.S.
The president's plan can briefly be described as follows. Phase One: Order Guantanamo closed. Phase Two: ? Phase Three: Close Gitmo!
Granted, this is an abbreviated exegesis of his speech, which did explain how some two-thirds of the detainees will be tried by military commissions or civilian courts, or repatriated to other countries. But on the central question of the 100-odd detainees who can neither be tried in court nor released one searches in vain for an explanation of exactly what the president intends to do.
Now take the administration's approach to the Middle East. Phase One: Talk to Iran, Syria, whoever. Phase Two: ? Phase Three: Peace!
/heh
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Cheechako Mon, May 25, 2009 11:32:58pm |
I’d like to share a very special Memorial Day with you.
In March of 1965 I was drafted into the U.S. Army. I spent March and April going through Basic Training at Ft. Dix, New Jersey. After Basic I was sent for Intelligence Analyst (96B) training at the U.S. Army Intelligence School at Ft. Holabird in Baltimore, Maryland. I arrived at Ft. Holabird several weeks before my class started so I was assigned to the Post Detail Platoon.
On the Friday before Memorial Day about 30 members of the Detail Platoon were loaded onto a bus and driven to the Baltimore National Cemetery. Our duty that day was to place American flags in front of each tombstone. Each flag was to be placed one boot length in front of the marker. At that time there was probably 35,000 grave markers in the Cemetery. We started about 9 am and finished about 3 pm.
That day was a beautiful and sunny. The grass had been freshly cut the day before. The trees were green and bright with new leaves. Standing back and looking over the Cemetery it looked like the photos you see of military cemeteries in National Geographic.
The Sgt. in charge of the detail had disappeared for awhile and returned with a couple cases of ice-cold beer as his thanks to us. After everyone had gotten a beer someone suggested making a toast. So all 30 of us lined up in a straight line, held up our beer, and made a toast to our fallen Brothers and Sisters.
A day I will never forget.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, May 25, 2009 11:35:31pm |
re: #21 Killian Bundy
Which member of the WH staff gets to be Kenny?
/Please let it be Rahm-bo; Please let it be Rham-bo
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:35:47pm |
re: #22 Cheechako
A Toast!
To those who purchased our Liberty with their last full measure.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:35:58pm |
Goodnight, friends & peeps.
Stay safe, scaly & warm!
( But, that's MY rock in the sun :))
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:36:41pm |
re: #17 MrPaulRevere
Like the old adage, if you want more of something, subsidize it, if you want less of it tax it. Seems Ace has been subsidizing and ha now come to realize it's out of hand. He'll have to start taxing.
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Lawrior Mon, May 25, 2009 11:36:46pm |
Wage no war
Thou brutal sea
I laugh at you
You can't have me
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:39:43pm |
Q+A-Why did North Korea rush to a nuclear test?
Obama is being the tough guy according to Al-Reuters.
North Korea likely concluded that no concessions would flow from U.S. President Barack Obama, especially after his strongly worded response to Pyongyang's rocket launch last month that regional powers say was a long-range missile test. To North Korea, this probably signalled Washington was in no mood for direct negotiations, something long sought by Pyongyang.
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:39:53pm |
re: #21 Killian Bundy
Obama and the 'South Park' Gnomes
/heh
The "South Park Gnomes" (SPG) philosophy applies to 0bama's approaches to other things, not just Guantanamo.
For example, as noted in US bonds sale faces market resistance , after stepping over the rights of bondholders in the GM and Chrysler fiascos, the 0bama administration is now having great trouble trying to sell US$100 billion worth of Treasury bonds abroad.
Apparently, the only people who didn't foresee this happening are all in DC.
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:40:18pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
Goodnight, friends & peeps.
Stay safe, scaly & warm!
( But, that's MY rock in the sun :))
Good night, FG!
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:40:57pm |
re: #17 MrPaulRevere
I never understood the 'Ace of Spades lifestyle' schtick with the emphasis on drunkeness and porn. One reaps what one sows, obviously. Funny how Charles never has to admonish us for such foolishness.
pass me the Valu-Rite, would you please?
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ArchangelMichael Mon, May 25, 2009 11:42:51pm |
re: #30 jcm
Q+A-Why did North Korea rush to a nuclear test?
Obama is being the tough guy according to Al-Reuters.
You sure that isn't from the Onion, or the opinion of some random guy on Kos?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:43:05pm |
re: #34 Sharmuta
Is stupidity a sin?
Yes, it is. If you could've done better, with what you have to work with.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:44:01pm |
Sorry, I''m still bent out of shape from the previous thread.
Need to take a "chill pill".
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Lawrior Mon, May 25, 2009 11:44:43pm |
re: #34 Sharmuta
Stupidity is not a sin, but it does have its own costs.
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:44:52pm |
re: #35 ArchangelMichael
You sure that isn't from the Onion, or the opinion of some random guy on Kos?
The domestic analysis seems reasonable and accurate.
Kim is returning to the centre stage in Pyongyang after a long absence from the public view following a suspected stroke last August. His illness has focused attention on who might take over in Asia's only communist dynasty. [ID:nSEO168410]Analysts said the recent demonstrations of military strength might make it easier for Kim to introduce one of his three sons as a successor when most of the North Korean public is unaware he even has children. The recent sabre rattling could also divert attention from the country's economic malaise.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:45:32pm |
re: #37 Floral Giraffe
Sorry, I''m still bent out of shape from the previous thread.
Need to take a "chill pill".
That's why I backed off for awhile. Too emotional a subject for me- as if the donohue thread didn't show that.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:46:28pm |
re: #40 Sharmuta
That's why I backed off for awhile. Too emotional a subject for me- as if the donohue thread didn't show that.
funny.... it never showed.
/white smoke
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:47:06pm |
re: #40 Sharmuta
That's why I backed off for awhile. Too emotional a subject for me- as if the donohue thread didn't show that.
Yeah, I hear you. I typed a bunch of stuff which I deleted.
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:47:35pm |
redc1c4, I just noticed the new logo!
Is that supposed to be John Wayne? May 26th being his birthday, and all . . .
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:47:58pm |
re: #42 jcm
Yeah, I hear you. I typed a bunch of stuff which I deleted.
i said a bunch of stuff i never typed.....
/i'm with you.
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Gus Mon, May 25, 2009 11:48:28pm |
re: #37 Floral Giraffe
Sorry, I''m still bent out of shape from the previous thread.
Need to take a "chill pill".
Try and forget about it. The dude's off the wall.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:48:39pm |
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MrPaulRevere Mon, May 25, 2009 11:48:51pm |
re: #40 Sharmuta
Speaking of Catholics, Mr. Uber-Catholic Mel Gibson has left the mother of his kids and has impregnated his GF (yes, I know this not news)
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ArchangelMichael Mon, May 25, 2009 11:48:54pm |
re: #39 jcm
Yes but Obama being perceived by foreign dictators and assorted thugs as a "tough guy" or even remotely strong on foreign policy issues is moronic in its conception.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:50:05pm |
re: #43 gmsc
redc1c4, I just noticed the new logo!
Is that supposed to be John Wayne? May 26th being his birthday, and all . . .
it's Old Bill... the Remington Cav icon... i put it up for FBV, and now i need to find my true icon to restore it, before i get sued for false advertising.
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:50:28pm |
re: #48 ArchangelMichael
Yes but Obama being perceived by foreign dictators and assorted thugs as a "tough guy" or even remotely strong on foreign policy issues is moronic in its conception.
Very true, but a lot people of drunk deeply of the O flavored koolaid.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:50:38pm |
re: #42 jcm
Yeah, I hear you. I typed a bunch of stuff which I deleted.
I hear you- I'm sure you have strong feelings on the matter considering your family situation. It hits too close to the mark for me- that's all I can really say.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:51:11pm |
And, REALLY, I will get of this blog, soon.
////
It keeps dragging me back in!
:)
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:51:22pm |
re: #47 MrPaulRevere
I saw that. He claims he and his wife were separated before it happened. I really don't care- he's a jerk.
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gmsc Mon, May 25, 2009 11:53:07pm |
Shatnerquake (book)
Product Description
It's Shatner VS Shatners!
William Shatner? William Shatner. WILLIAM SHATNER! It's the first ShatnerCon with William Shatner as the guest of honor! But after a failed terrorist attack by Campbellians, a crazy terrorist cult that worships Bruce Campbell, all of the characters ever played by William Shatner are suddenly sucked into our world. Their mission: hunt down and destroy the real William Shatner.
Featuring: Captain Kirk, TJ Hooker, Denny Crane, Rescue 911 Shatner, Singer Shatner, Shakespearean Shatner, Twilight Zone Shatner, Cartoon Kirk, Esperanto Shatner, Priceline Shatner, SNL Shatner, and - of course - William Shatner!
No costumed con-goer will be spared in their wave of destruction, no redshirt will make it out alive, and not even the Klingons will be able to stand up to a deranged Captain Kirk with a lightsaber. But these Shatner-clones are about to learn a hard lesson...that the real William Shatner doesn't take crap from anybody. Not even himself.
It's Shatnertastic!
Ummmm . . . Yeah . . . OK . . .
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MrPaulRevere Mon, May 25, 2009 11:53:52pm |
re: #53 Sharmuta
I'm sure the church will give him an annulment 'ala Ted Kennedy The whole Kennedy clan.
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jcm Mon, May 25, 2009 11:54:39pm |
re: #56 gmsc
Shatnerquake (book)
Product Description
Ummmm . . . Yeah . . . OK . . .
Deploy the Ultimate Shatner WMD
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redc1c4 Mon, May 25, 2009 11:54:49pm |
re: #53 Sharmuta
I saw that. He claims he and his wife were separated before it happened. I really don't care- he's a jerk.
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 25, 2009 11:56:28pm |
re: #60 redc1c4
Can we file that under "money buys happiness"?
And be done with it?
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:56:55pm |
re: #56 gmsc
Shatnerquake (book)
Product Description
Ummmm . . . Yeah . . . OK . . .
But will Emenem Shatner be there?
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Sharmuta Mon, May 25, 2009 11:58:07pm |
re: #57 MrPaulRevere
I'm sure the church will give him an annulment 'ala
Ted KennedyThe whole Kennedy clan.
He claims he doesn't want to get remarried. That's.... nice.
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ArchangelMichael Mon, May 25, 2009 11:58:56pm |
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, May 26th:
Highlights of this day in history: Allied troops begin their evacuation from Dunkirk, France; President Andrew Johnson's impeachment trial ends with his acquittal; Actor John Wayne and musician Hank Williams, Jr. born; Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley's daughter Lisa Marie marry.
Other notable May 26th events include:
1830 – The Indian Removal Act is passed by the U.S. Congress; it is signed into law by President Andrew Jackson two days later.
1857 – Dred Scott is emancipated by the Blow family, his original owners.
1864 – Montana is organized as a United States territory.
1869 – Boston University is chartered by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
1894 – Nicholas II becomes Tsar of Russia.
1896 – Charles Dow publishes the first edition of the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
1918 – The Democratic Republic of Georgia is established.
1928 – The first motion picture is projected publicly in Athens, Greece.
1986 – The European Community adopts the European flag.
1998 – The United States Supreme Court rules that Ellis Island, the historic gateway for millions of immigrants, is mainly in the state of New Jersey, not New York.
2004 – The United States Army veteran Terry Nichols is found guilty of 161 state murder charges for helping carry out the Oklahoma City bombing.
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jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 12:01:32am |
'Hand of God' rock being sold on eBay
A man in northern Idaho says he has seen a massive hand of God in his life, and he is willing to share it with the highest bidder.Paul Grayhek, 52, listed the rock formation he dubbed the "Hand of God Rock Wall" on the online auction Web site eBay. The highest bid was $250 early Sunday, with three days left to go in the auction.
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MrPaulRevere Tue, May 26, 2009 12:02:11am |
re: #48 ArchangelMichael
Its been said that in terms of domestic/economic affairs Obama's role model is FDR. Perhaps he should study how FDR and Harry Truman waged war.
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freetoken Tue, May 26, 2009 12:02:47am |
re: #7 gmsc
Higher quality versions of Cosmos are available to be streamed from Hulu:
[Link: www.hulu.com...]
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:03:44am |
re: #68 MrPaulRevere
Its been said that in terms of domestic/economic affairs Obama's role model is FDR. Perhaps he should study how FDR and Harry Truman waged war.
One cannot 'learn' testicles. :-)
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:05:34am |
re: #67 jcm
Considering what happened to The Old Man of the Mountain, this may not be a good investment.
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jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 12:07:06am |
re: #72 gmsc
Considering what happened to The Old Man of the Mountain, this may not be a good investment.
Erosion happens.......
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:09:07am |
pink freud, I have a challenge that's right down your alley!
How many of these phrases, all of which contain PINK or PURPLE, can you identify in 6 minutes?
Hint: If you don't get at least 1 right, your screen name will be revoked.
;)
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:09:24am |
You know, Red ....I've realized that it's not gumption and grit she has (which is what I think of balls as) ....it's arrogance and bitchiness that some take to indicate balls. And character ...balls has something to do with character. Theirs is rotten.
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jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 12:11:10am |
From the get a life file......
Starbucks' biggest fan scrambles to pay homage
Here's someone you might not expect. He goes by "Winter," claims to have visited 9,078 Starbucks stores and is having to shell out a lot of cash to get to the rest before they close their doors.Winter says he spends about 25% of his earnings, and three months of travel a year, on coffee runs. He declines to say how much he makes but says it would be "six figures" if he worked all year. Though whim and cheap flights have long directed his travel, now he says he plots his trips to hit the most shops. "The thought of the one store I skip being the one that closes is a bit unbearable," he says.
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MrPaulRevere Tue, May 26, 2009 12:11:52am |
To be fair, North Korea is a very difficult issue to deal with. The options seems very limited. If I were POTUS, I have no idea what I would do.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:12:39am |
Purple rain
Purple Haze
Pink eye
now hang on, I'm reading more
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jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 12:14:04am |
I'm out of here too....
A last thought on Memorial Day.
Although no sculptured marble should rise to their memory, nor engraved stone bear record of their deeds, yet will their remembrance be as lasting as the land they honored.
~Daniel Webster
God Bless American.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:15:06am |
Purple Heart
Pretty in Pink
(i'm in a browser window with about thirty tabs open ...lol! ...scrolling from side to side)
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:16:04am |
re: #78 gmsc
pink freud, I have a challenge that's right down your alley!
How many of these phrases, all of which contain PINK or PURPLE, can you identify in 6 minutes?
Hint: If you don't get at least 1 right, your screen name will be revoked.
;)
I got 16 of 20
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:16:26am |
re: #83 MrPaulRevere
To be fair, North Korea is a very difficult issue to deal with. The options seems very limited. If I were POTUS, I have no idea what I would do.
maybe you lack imagination?
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:16:46am |
re: #83 MrPaulRevere
To be fair, North Korea is a very difficult issue to deal with. The options seems very limited. If I were POTUS, I have no idea what I would do.
Hard to deal with since China's involved.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:16:49am |
Purple Rose of Cairo
Mr. Pink
and I think that's all i know off the top of my poor memory
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:17:37am |
sheesh ..forgot pink floyd and pink slip ...and smoke on the water! why cant i remember that!
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:18:29am |
phew! kept my nic by the skin of my teeth ;-)
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:18:30am |
re: #93 pink freud
sheesh ..forgot pink floyd and pink slip ...and smoke on the water! why cant i remember that!
it's hell getting old, isn't it?
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:18:35am |
re: #93 pink freud
sheesh ..forgot pink floyd and pink slip ...and smoke on the water! why cant i remember that!
You forgot Pink Floyd?!?
What do we do about this, fellow lizards?
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 12:18:45am |
I enjoyed it.
He weaves a pleasant dream.
His politics are "Happy Rainbow Farting Unicorn" drivel but set that aside and Contact becomes a very enjoyable story.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:19:09am |
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MrPaulRevere Tue, May 26, 2009 12:20:18am |
re: #90 redc1c4
I'm not seeing any ideas or suggestions on your part.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:21:14am |
re: #96 gmsc
You forgot Pink Floyd?!?
What do we do about this, fellow lizards?
ooh. punishment. ;-)
/dammit, that stays LOL
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:22:39am |
...but not *that* long ...someone type something
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Karridine Tue, May 26, 2009 12:24:34am |
North Korea is difficult for Communist China and the Russian Federation, which is the only other nation (outside South Korea) to share a border with it...
Stalinist, paranoid, starvation-riddled, gulag-sprinkled and unpredictable, a world LEADER could lead on several fronts, but Obama doesn't seem to fit that role... world LEADERS don't vote "Present" when "Yea" or "Nay" is needed...
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:24:53am |
Did I miss anything important/interesting since Friday?
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:25:28am |
re: #105 TheMatrix31
Did I miss anything important/interesting since Friday?
North Korea tested an underground nuclear device, as well as a missle, over the weekend.
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:25:28am |
re: #99 MrPaulRevere
I'm not seeing any ideas or suggestions on your part.
didn't see where you had asked for them, or, more importantly, provided your own for review.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:25:35am |
It's the funniest thing ...I sit in class 5 days a week and do tons of research on a daily basis, read until my eyes blur and my brain can't absorb another word ....and then I come on here and comment regularly. Semester ends, and my brain just deflates ....I read the threads and can barely find anything to say.
I consider it recovery mode.
/though I did remember John Money
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:30:41am |
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MrPaulRevere Tue, May 26, 2009 12:30:59am |
re: #106 Sharmuta
This is dedicated to Cognito: "You're riding high in April, shot down in May"
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:31:21am |
re: #112 TheMatrix31
And what did we (not) do about it?
0bama is preparing to co-author a sternly-worded letter with the UN.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:35:14am |
re: #114 gmsc
0bama is preparing to co-author a sternly-worded letter with the UN.
Well that's a fuckin' relief.
/Los Angeles is in firing range?
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:35:58am |
re: #111 Sharmuta
I didn't see that. What thread?
not sure it was thread related....... all i know is that she comes up "blocked".
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:36:22am |
re: #113 MrPaulRevere
Ol' Blue Eyes is always fantastic. Thanks.
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:37:02am |
re: #115 TheMatrix31
Well that's a fuckin' relief.
/Los Angeles is in firing range?
whatsa matta U? ya wanna live forever?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:39:56am |
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:40:23am |
re: #115 TheMatrix31
Well that's a fuckin' relief.
/Los Angeles is in firing range?
Japan knows for sure that it is.
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Throbert McGee Tue, May 26, 2009 12:40:34am |
re: #78 gmsc
How many of these phrases, all of which contain PINK or PURPLE, can you identify in 6 minutes?
19 outta 20! Missed the comic-book question.
(No love for Gelett Burgess...)
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MrPaulRevere Tue, May 26, 2009 12:42:54am |
Have a great Tuesday everyone, I'm off to [Link: www.hulu.com...]
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theheat Tue, May 26, 2009 12:43:59am |
re: #120 gmsc
Every time North Korea farts, it makes us West Coasties a little uneasy. This shit's been going on awhile, now.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 12:44:07am |
re: #106 Sharmuta
Cognito got the stick.
Really? I missed it. What finally pushed him over the edge?
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:45:43am |
re: #126 SixDegrees
He got flippant with Charles. Never a good idea.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:46:12am |
re: #114 gmsc
0bama is preparing to co-author a sternly-worded letter with the UN.
They better get to it lickety split. Looks like the tiny man is goin' rocket crazy.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:46:26am |
re: #123 MrPaulRevere
Have a great Tuesday everyone, I'm off to [Link: www.hulu.com...]
G'Nite!
Hey - the midnight ride-off of MrPaulRevere!
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:46:54am |
re: #126 SixDegrees
It's on the Sekrit jihad conference thread if you want to go look.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 12:47:24am |
re: #83 MrPaulRevere
To be fair, North Korea is a very difficult issue to deal with. The options seems very limited. If I were POTUS, I have no idea what I would do.
How do you solve a problem like Korea?
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 12:51:22am |
re: #91 Sharmuta
Hard to deal with since China's involved.
Indeed. Although China may very well prove to be the solution, as well as the problem.
As things now stand, this is yet another in a long series of shakedown attempts by NK. They threaten nuclear developement; we give them stuff in exchange for them halting development; they get pissed off and go back to development; repeat indefinitely. And the US has the deep pockets in all of this. No one else is providing any aid.
One possible response this time around: the US could give NK the finger, and very loudly say, "Fuck you. You're Asia's problem, not ours," while rather pointedly leaving Japan included as part of Asia. This could provide all sorts of motivation to China to step on Pumpkin Boy; the very last thing China wants is a nuclear-armed Japan. They aren't at all happy with a nuclear-armed NK, and would much prefer to remain the only nuclear power in the region. If we make it clear that we are not only not going to dick around with NK anymore, but are also going to stand aside in the event that Japan wants to start beefing up it's military, it will certainly get China's attention.
China has bluntly stated that they want to exert leadership over the region. Here's an opportunity for them to start putting their money where their mouth is.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 12:51:35am |
So we've got Iran moving warships into the Gulf of Aden, Kim Jung Il is rocket happy, he's detonated something underground that is purportedly the size of the Hiroshima bomb ...and Bambi's playing golf.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:52:57am |
re: #132 SixDegrees
I think it's about as good as any plan out there.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 12:53:48am |
Hi, Syrah. We'll have to make up our usual thread next week. Hope that's okay.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 12:57:19am |
re: #133 pink freud
So we've got Iran moving warships into the Gulf of Aden, Kim Jung Il is rocket happy, he's detonated something underground that is purportedly the size of the Hiroshima bomb ...and Bambi's playing golf.
It's sad that I'd rather have him AWAY from working on problems rather than in office working on them.
How's THAT for confidence?
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 12:59:42am |
re: #135 Sharmuta
It will work.
I will need more time to tackle a point that I am working on anyway. It has turned out to be a bit more work than I had first thought.
Next week would be good.
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Throbert McGee Tue, May 26, 2009 1:00:16am |
My additions to the Pink & Purple quiz -- exclusively for LGF readers!!!:
• Creature in an 1895 Gelett Burgess poem
• Short-lived '80s variety show featuring two Japanese pop-music starlets
• Proverbial alcohol-induced hallucination
• Alternative name for a "titty twister"
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 1:01:19am |
Speaking of the little leader in NK, did anyone else see that picture of him that was up on drudge?
he looked like he was at death's door. Whats up with that?
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 1:01:19am |
re: #138 Throbert McGee
My additions to the Pink & Purple quiz -- exclusively for LGF readers!!!:
• Creature in an 1895 Gelett Burgess poem
• Short-lived '80s variety show featuring two Japanese pop-music starlets
• Proverbial alcohol-induced hallucination
• Alternative name for a "titty twister"
All I can get is the pink elephant.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 1:01:33am |
re: #138 Throbert McGee
My additions to the Pink & Purple quiz -- exclusively for LGF readers!!!:
• Creature in an 1895 Gelett Burgess poem
Purple Cow
• Short-lived '80s variety show featuring two Japanese pop-music starlets
Pink Lady & Jeff
• Proverbial alcohol-induced hallucination
Pink Elephants
• Alternative name for a "titty twister"
Purple Nurple
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 1:01:40am |
re: #140 Syrah
Speaking of the little leader in NK, did anyone else see that picture of him that was up on drudge?
he looked like he was at death's door. Whats up with that?
He's at death' door?
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:01:46am |
re: #130 Sharmuta
It's on the Sekrit jihad conference thread if you want to go look.
Found it. Thanks.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:02:41am |
re: #140 Syrah
Speaking of the little leader in NK, did anyone else see that picture of him that was up on drudge?
he looked like he was at death's door. Whats up with that?
He disappeared for many months recently. Speculation is that he had a stroke.
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:03:34am |
re: #122 Sharmuta
Well- I'm sure Charles had his reason.
didn't say he didn't...... i'll be the first to say he does. i was simply commenting on the fact itself.
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slokat Tue, May 26, 2009 1:05:20am |
Iranian Navy: Global Security & Wiki
Not sure this counts as a "Navy"?
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 1:05:47am |
re: #143 Sharmuta
He's at death' door?
If he kicks the bucket, that leaves who, his son in charge? Would he be able to hold power or would their be some sort of coup? (I would bet on the coup.)
Its bad enough that the nitwit is playing with really big firecrackers but if the the country collapses, it will get real ugly in a bad way.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 1:07:14am |
re: #137 Syrah
I have taken a time out to read the Ida book, which I will be done with in the next day or two. I was just too excited to not read it right away. Still a ways to go on Conflict, so don't worry. Did you get another copy?
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 1:07:15am |
re: #145 SixDegrees
He disappeared for many months recently. Speculation is that he had a stroke.
That would explain. He looks terrible.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 1:08:03am |
re: #146 redc1c4
I wasn't trying to imply you didn't- I just didn't know what else to say, red.
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 1:09:36am |
re: #150 Sharmuta
I have taken a time out to read the Ida book, which I will be done with in the next day or two. I was just too excited to not read it right away. Still a ways to go on Conflict, so don't worry. Did you get another copy?
Not yet. I have the audio version. I have played through that several times. Auditory learning is different. I can retain a lot from listening to the book, but its very different from reading it.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:10:01am |
re: #147 slokat
Iranian Navy: Global Security & Wiki
Not sure this counts as a "Navy"?
It all depends on what they're doing and who they're doing it to. Harassing shipping lanes in the Gulf, for example, would be easy to do, easy for the US to sweep aside...and would have a devastating impact on world oil prices.
Possible escalation, well within their reach: sink a couple of tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, and tie up shipping for months.
It's a gnat that would be dangerous to underestimate.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:11:50am |
re: #148 Syrah
If he kicks the bucket, that leaves who, his son in charge? Would he be able to hold power or would their be some sort of coup? (I would bet on the coup.)
Its bad enough that the nitwit is playing with really big firecrackers but if the the country collapses, it will get real ugly in a bad way.
He has three sons, with no clear successor in line. One speculation over this most recent tantrum is that Kimmy will use it to introduce one as his successor, but that isn't clear yet.
At the moment, if Kimmy kicks the bucket there will be chaos as far as anyone can tell.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:13:43am |
re: #151 Syrah
That would explain. He looks terrible.
He really does look like shit. Anything we can do to raise his blood pressure will probably be helpful.
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 1:15:34am |
re: #155 SixDegrees
He has three sons, with no clear successor in line. One speculation over this most recent tantrum is that Kimmy will use it to introduce one as his successor, but that isn't clear yet.
At the moment, if Kimmy kicks the bucket there will be chaos as far as anyone can tell.
It brings to mind Akira Kurosawa's Ran, without the pretty sets and grand vistas.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 1:17:37am |
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 1:19:20am |
re: #147 slokat
Iranian Navy: Global Security & Wiki
Not sure this counts as a "Navy"?
How can you doubt that Iranians truly have people In The Navy?
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:20:10am |
re: #159 Syrah
It brings to mind Akira Kurosawa's Ran, without the pretty sets and grand vistas.
I have no doubt that Kimmy views his current situation as being part of some grand legend.
He desparately craves attention. If the world turns it's back on him, he'll probably blow an anuerysm.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 1:20:46am |
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 1:24:51am |
re: #161 gmsc
You couls have warned us that is the homoerotic navy. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 1:27:32am |
re: #159 Syrah
I loved Ran.Grand retelling of Shakespeare's King Lear.
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Throbert McGee Tue, May 26, 2009 1:28:40am |
re: #142 gmsc
Purple Nurple
Yep, you got it!
(I almost put "show the pink" in there, but I couldn't think of a tasteful clue for it.)
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:29:01am |
re: #166 taxfreekiller
thats what i like about your posts the most TFK: you're always so perky and upbeat.........
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:30:03am |
re: #168 Throbert McGee
Yep, you got it!
(I almost put "show the pink" in there, but I couldn't think of a tasteful clue for it.)
two in the pink, one in the stink?
/tacky r' us......
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 1:30:08am |
re: #166 taxfreekiller
no telling how long the [Link: www.drudgereport.com...] will look like it does this moment in time.
Kim Junk Is Ill
Ack me Dinner Job
Hugo Nutso
U.S. bond rate to tank.
Pelosi looking stretched against reality.and Obama looking evil and hapless in one pose....
"We the People" of the U.S.A. had better get our hands on deck and some sanity back in Washington D.C. or we are all in a world of shit.
Much like what is going on now at 3:15 A.M down in the Sabine River bottom. A pack of coyotes and a pack of wild hogs are in a hell of a brawl,,, and any peace loving rabbit clan down there is getting its ass kicked to kingdom come. IMO, Obama and the kook anti-war, unAmerican Democrats are turning us into new age victim rabbits.
Cool! When I go there, the top ad adds a bonus: "Defeat Harry Reid"
Yeah, I clicked.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 1:30:23am |
While I'm waiting for the links to open up, I gotta wonder how much of Iran's navy- like their Air Force- is leftovers from the Shah's reign? I think some of the now-obsolete American made aircraft and vessels are more reliable than whatever the mullahs could purchase new from Russia, China or produce themselves domestically.
/Keep in mind Iran's main strength is waging war through proxies like the Madhi militia or Nezbollah.
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:30:34am |
Morning everyone! Worked all weekend and today is my friday! (Whoo hoo)
Hope everyone is well.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 1:34:28am |
re: #173 srb1976
Morning everyone! Worked all weekend and today is my friday! (Whoo hoo)
Hope everyone is well.
HI, SRB. I've worked 10 days straight so far. I get friday off. It's good to be employed.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 1:35:14am |
re: #171 gmsc
Cool! When I go there, the top ad adds a bonus: "Defeat Harry Reid"
Yeah, I clicked.
One of the talk-shows last week carried some audio from a Micheal Steele speech.
"Nancy Pelosi- who nobody likes.
Harry Reid- who nobody knows
Tim Geitnher- who nobody trusts
Barney Frank- who nobody understands"
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 1:35:17am |
28 Texas A&M projects win research grants
28 Texas A&M projects win research grants
Web posted at: 5/26/2009 4:7:25
Source ::: THE PENINSULA
"DOHA: Researchers from Texas A&M University at Qatar and the university’s main campus in Texas have won more than $27m in funding for 28 new research projects in the second cycle of Qatar National Research Fund’s National Priorities Research Programme (NPRP).
The new research grants span a range of disciplines: 19 were awarded for projects in engineering, seven for natural sciences projects, and one each for a medical and a social sciences project.
Texas A&M at Qatar Dean and CEO Dr Mark H Weichold said the outcomes of these projects will result in better roads, more efficient fuel technology, more effective wireless communications hardware and more sophisticated technology for extracting hydrocarbons, among other advances."
Qatar: 100% sharia compliant.
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wiffersnapper Tue, May 26, 2009 1:36:05am |
Since these "how to argue with X" topics are becoming more and more frequent, can we have one about arguing with anti-Israel/pro-Palestine people?
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:37:15am |
re: #174 BatGuano
HI, SRB. I've worked 10 days straight so far. I get friday off. It's good to be employed.
That it is! I'm really pleased with my employer as a whole. Usually enjoy my job....plus, doing my part to prove that American manufacturing is not dead = ).
Still, we work our shifts so that we can enjoy our time off and a 4&4 schedule gives a person lots of time off
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 1:41:02am |
re: #178 wiffersnapper
Since these "how to argue with X" topics are becoming more and more frequent, can we have one about arguing with anti-Israel/pro-Palestine people?
Nekama's Troll Hammer is a good starting point, from there you might also ask around the daytime threads ...there are some excellent pro-Israel links to be had among the lizards.
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Throbert McGee Tue, May 26, 2009 1:41:58am |
"Purple Cow" would be a good name for a mixed drink made with Bailey's and port.
(Because it would be a lovely shade of purple, and because it would taste like a cow's ass. But it'd get you drunk...)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 1:44:41am |
re: #181 Throbert McGee
Friends don't let friends drink purple cows....
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 1:47:15am |
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:48:22am |
re: #183 taxfreekiller
two bananas and back to bed
this HHH-100 bike ride in Aug.
is going to be hard, the legs
are cramping now bad as I'm
at 25 miles a day and adding
more up to the route, and
attempting to add speednow about two times a night
up with the dam leg crampsgrump, grump, grump,,,
there feel better now...
Bananas are good, electrolyte tabs may also be your friend.....esp. if you're not a gatorade fan (for all the fuss, salt is important)
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 1:48:50am |
re: #184 Fenway_Nation
Friends don't let friends drink purple cows....
Also by Gelett Burgess:
Ah, yes, I wrote the "Purple Cow"—
I'm Sorry, now, I wrote it;
But I can tell you Anyhow
I'll Kill you if you Quote it!
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:50:23am |
We are having "the great school debate" around my house....anyone have any opinions about catholic school for non-catholic children?
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 1:51:34am |
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 1:52:00am |
re: #181 Throbert McGee
"Purple Cow" would be a good name for a mixed drink made with Bailey's and port.
(Because it would be a lovely shade of purple, and because it would taste like a cow's ass. But it'd get you drunk...)
Who would dare ruin a good port like that?!
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:52:55am |
re: #195 Sharmuta
I don't know about port, but i can't figure out why anyone would ruin bailey's like that...
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 1:54:18am |
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 1:55:32am |
re: #197 Fenway_Nation
If it wasn't a work day...there would be bailey's in my coffee (yum)....
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 1:57:33am |
re: #198 srb1976
If it gets cold enough in the winter, I'll sometimes put Wailey's generic chain-store knock-off of Bailey's in my hot chocolate.
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:00:01am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:00:14am |
re: #199 Fenway_Nation
How cold is "cold enough"....doesn't take much for me....alabama doesn't have much of a winter
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:00:44am |
re: #200 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Thank you littleoldlady.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:01:03am |
re: #200 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Yummers! Thank you!
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Panhandler Tue, May 26, 2009 2:01:36am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:01:37am |
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:02:04am |
re: #200 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Proof that there can be benefits to waking up before the alarm goes off = )
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:03:14am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Morning LoL- thanks for the cuppage of fruitage as usual!
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:03:18am |
srb1976! :-)
When you figure out what they are let me know, m'kay? ;-)
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:04:14am |
re: #194 BatGuano
It's from Pink Floyd: Have a Cigar.
ttp
[Video]
This was on the radio today when I was driving up my hill. Too bad it was on the tail end. Fuckin' amazing song.
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:04:22am |
re: #211 littleoldlady
srb1976! :-)
When you figure out what they are let me know, m'kay? ;-)
Fruitcup of course! (Alarm set for 4:00...by the time coffee's ready all the good fruit has been picked out = ) )
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Panhandler Tue, May 26, 2009 2:04:31am |
re: #209 littleoldlady
Panhandler! :-)
Overkill, no? ;-)
Nonsense - A trained eye and years of experience, just don't try to count all his fingers.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:05:07am |
re: #206 Fenway_Nation
Fenway. Do you believe as I do that the '86 Celtics were an all-time great team?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:05:46am |
re: #200 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Good morning, Littleoldlady!
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:06:03am |
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, May 26, 2009 2:09:38am |
Obama, the UniCom's & Dreams of Multicolor Concertina: North Korea Fires (two more) Short-Range Missiles
North Korea fired two short-range missiles off its eastern coast, Yonhap News reported, a day after a nuclear test and similar missile launches drew international condemnation.Kim Jong Il’s government test-fired two missiles with a 130-kilometer (81-mile) range from Hamheung, South Hamgyong province, into the sea, Yonhap said, citing a government official it didn’t identify. South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff is attempting to verify the information, an official said on condition of anonymity.
Morning folks Lol :), fenway, srb, gmsc, bat...all.
Are we havin' fun yet?
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Panhandler Tue, May 26, 2009 2:10:26am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:10:44am |
re: #216 BatGuano
Yes.
(Imitating The Most Interesting Man in The World)
I don't normally follow basketball, but when I do, the '86 Celtics are often brought up by the announcers. Along with the Byrd/Magic rivalry. Even when the Celtics aren't playing.
/stay thirsty my friends.
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:11:36am |
aboo! :-)
WHERE have you been hiding? No, wait - don't tell me! Let me guess...
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:12:42am |
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:15:33am |
re: #225 littleoldlady
Sharmuta,
Um...yesterday? ;-)
Yesterday, love was just another game to play . . .
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:17:56am |
re: #230 gmsc
If this keeps up, I'll need a place to hide away.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:18:19am |
re: #226 Fenway_Nation
I was Cincinnati fan in '75 but I loved the Boston Redsox. There was great baseball in those days.
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:18:31am |
Ruh roh! gmsc is singing...
/is YouTube broken? ;-)
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Panhandler Tue, May 26, 2009 2:19:03am |
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:19:49am |
re: #233 littleoldlady
Ruh roh! gmsc is singing...
/is YouTube broken? ;-)
Hey! I've been told I sing like a television star!
(OK, it was Peter from that episode of the Brady Bunch where his voice is changing, but still . . .)
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 2:20:09am |
re: #233 littleoldlady
Ruh roh! gmsc is singing...
/is YouTube broken? ;-)
You probably don't want to know what I'm playing on youtube right now.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:21:06am |
If my singing is appreciated around here . . .
. . . that proves you all have excellent taste!
;)
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:21:24am |
re: #236 Sharmuta
You probably don't want to know what I'm playing on youtube right now.
We didn't until you said that.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:21:27am |
re: #236 Sharmuta
You probably don't want to know what I'm playing on youtube right now.
"I gots to know".
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:21:57am |
re: #232 BatGuano
I'm more partial to the '04 and '07 World Series-es.
/says the lizard who's the proud new owner of a Josh Beckett-autographed Sports Illustrated cover and a Jonathan Papelbon Sports Illustrated Cover to boot.
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:25:23am |
re: #234 Panhandler
Oh boy! I may have woken up talloldman by laughing too loud!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:25:53am |
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 2:27:21am |
re: #242 Sharmuta
It starts with an "E" and ends in "minem".
[Hope that's a good enough hint.]
I blame Shatner!
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:27:57am |
re: #237 gmsc
If my singing is appreciated around here . . .
. . . that proves you all have excellent taste!
;)
Ooops - that should be isn't appreciated, but I think you all got the idea.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:28:23am |
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:28:29am |
re: #245 littleoldlady
Sing away, gmsc!
/American Idle
;-)
Sing? No. Away? That's probably a good idea right now.
Good night, all!
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:28:43am |
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 2:29:19am |
I'm weird like that- last night it was Elaine Paige, tonight Marshall Mathers.
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:29:20am |
Oh, dear! I hope I didn't chase him away by teasing him...
'Night, gmsc! :-)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:29:53am |
They are down, 3-0, after last night's 19-8 rout, and, in this sport, that is an official death sentence. Soon it will be over, and we will spend another dreary winter lamenting this and lamenting that."—Bob Ryan, page E1 of the October 17 Boston Globe
The Yankees have a stranglehold on the series.
—John Sterling, Yankees radio announcer before Game Four
Red Sox are three outs away from being swept out of the American League Championship Series for the first time since 1988.
—Joe Buck (Fox) opening of the bottom of the 9th of Game 4.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:32:08am |
re: #244 Fenway_Nation
I understand. My wife and I watched the 2004 ALCS, in a bar in Monterey, ca.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 2:32:20am |
re: #256 littleoldlady
Oh, dear! I hope I didn't chase him away by teasing him...
'Night, gmsc! :-)
No - you didn't.
My eyelids are getting heavy.
Besides, there's little you could do, littleoldlady, that would ever chase me away.
G'night again, all!
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:33:22am |
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:34:00am |
re: #258 Fenway_Nation
Oh great....now i feel compelled to break out The Dropkick Murphy's... thanks
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:35:27am |
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:35:46am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:36:38am |
re: #265 TheMatrix31
GrrHooray!....Dave Roberts.
Another member of a WS-winning Red Sox team who autographed a Sports Illustrated cover for me.
/It's actually a pretty short list....but quality over quantity
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:38:31am |
re: #272 Fenway_Nation
Another member of a WS-winning Red Sox team who autographed a Sports Illustrated cover for me.
/It's actually a pretty short list....but quality over quantity
That's actually pretty bad ass.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:39:04am |
re: #267 srb1976
Oh great....now i feel compelled to break out The Dropkick Murphy's... thanks
No problem!
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 2:42:11am |
re: #275 Sharmuta
I just can't listen to rap, Sharmuta.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:43:31am |
re: #273 TheMatrix31
Nice guy, too. Caught up with him when he was a Padre undergoing a minor-league rehab start over in Lake Elsinore. I don't even think it was a week after he got that ring in the big ceremony @ Fenway. As proud as he was of that, he kept trying to steer the conversation back to his teammates in San Diego and even Lake Elsinore.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 2:44:46am |
re: #276 littleoldlady
I understand. Still- it's a touching song. Makes me cry sometimes.
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BatGuano Tue, May 26, 2009 2:46:14am |
re: #275 Sharmuta
I really believe that he loves his children.
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:47:31am |
More dropkick murphy's.... just because I like them = )Johnny I hardly knew ya
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:48:07am |
re: #274 Fenway_Nation
Crap...that more or less sucked (yet is infinitely better than the video I shot last year).
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:48:59am |
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:50:11am |
re: #283 Fenway_Nation
Your taste in music is beyond reproach.
/Haroo
/Haroo
Why thank you....check out Flogging Molly sometime as well if you like this kinda thing....not quite as hard rock, but a killer live show = )
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:51:57am |
re: #284 srb1976
Why thank you....check out Flogging Molly sometime as well if you like this kinda thing....not quite as hard rock, but a killer live show = )
Saw Flogging Molly live at San Diego's Street Scene....back when they actually had it in the streets.
/It's not all 80's music w/me :P
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:53:43am |
re: #288 Fenway_Nation
Saw Flogging Molly live at San Diego's Street Scene....back when they actually had it in the streets.
/It's not all 80's music w/me :P
I joke that Flogging Molly was baby girls first concert.... they came to town while I was pregnant with her.....had to go though... had a blast
Something to be said for a show I went to with my dad, brother and better half = )
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 2:54:25am |
And on that note....it's off to work I go....Yay employment = )
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 2:57:06am |
Guitar Mandolin Hero, Anyone?
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 3:01:36am |
re: #292 littleoldlady
Trying to make it up to you for linking rap. :)
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littleoldlady Tue, May 26, 2009 3:02:25am |
I must get my day (and my butt) in gear... :-(
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 3:04:52am |
re: #295 littleoldlady
Goodbye, and congratulations on not outlasting me!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 3:13:50am |
/Gratuitous attempt to be post #300 on this thread.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 3:45:33am |
Once I get out of the habit of rising before the sun, I'll have a precious few weeks before I'll hafta' get back to the same. When I was growing up, we got about three months for the summer. Of course, we didn't have a fall break or a mid-winter break or a spring break.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 3:46:47am |
G'nite, lizards
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 3:52:13am |
re: #314 MandyManners
Year round school there?
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:33am |
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:26am |
re: #317 Jim in Virginia
The Hauser kid is back. So far, his mother is not in custody for some reason.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:41am |
re: #318 MandyManners
I have a SIL and friend who are teachers in year round programs.
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Jim in Virginia Tue, May 26, 2009 4:11:22am |
re: #319 MandyManners
The Hauser kid is back. So far, his mother is not in custody for some reason.
Yawn.
Norks and Iranians rattling sabers and the MSM is dealing with teary adolescent tales. Hauser is the current Nataiie Holloway. It's tragic, but it is only front page news for tabloids.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:11am |
re: #223 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Obama, the UniCom's & Dreams of Multicolor Concertina: North Korea Fires (two more) Short-Range Missiles
Morning folks Lol :), fenway, srb, gmsc, bat...all.Are we havin' fun yet?
By the way - where the fuck is our Secretary of State? I haven't heard jack out of Clinton in weeks. Here we are in the middle of yet another NK provocation, and she's nowhere to be found.
Isn't this just a little bit weird?
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3 wood Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:25am |
Good morning.
The market futures are poining down today in reaction to the the reality that North Korea is not enraptured by the Obama experience and does not understand that now that the One is in office the world is supposed to hold hands and worship the One together.
You know, like the MSM is doing.
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3 wood Tue, May 26, 2009 4:14:19am |
re: #322 SixDegrees
By the way - where the fuck is our Secretary of State? I haven't heard jack out of Clinton in weeks. Here we are in the middle of yet another NK provocation, and she's nowhere to be found.
I think Her Thighness is busy trying to come up with another insult of Cheney.
And shopping for another pants suit.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 4:14:30am |
re: #319 MandyManners
The Hauser kid is back. So far, his mother is not in custody for some reason.
Part of the deal. Federal, state and local authorities put the word out last week that if she turned the kid over to the court, she wouldn't face charges. Local authorities have now formally dropped their warrants; the Feds haven't done so, but will as soon as the Federal court offices open this morning and a judge signs off.
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3 wood Tue, May 26, 2009 4:18:36am |
The One is not going to like this:
JPMorgan $29 Billion WaMu Windfall Turned Bad Loans Into Income
May 26 (Bloomberg) -- JPMorgan Chase & Co. stands to reap a $29 billion windfall thanks to an accounting rule that lets the second-biggest U.S. bank transform bad loans it purchased from Washington Mutual Inc. into income.
Wells Fargo & Co., Bank of America Corp. and PNC Financial Services Group Inc. are also poised to benefit from taking over home lenders Wachovia Corp., Countrywide Financial Corp. and National City Corp., regulatory filings show. The deals provide a combined $56 billion in so-called accretable yield, the difference between the value of the loans on the banks’ balance sheets and the cash flow they’re expected to produce.
I expect to see Barney Frank and Geithner jump all over this one, making a profit is so taboo now, you know.
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Jim in Virginia Tue, May 26, 2009 4:21:24am |
re: #322 SixDegrees
By the way - where the fuck is our Secretary of State? I haven't heard jack out of Clinton in weeks. Here we are in the middle of yet another NK provocation, and she's nowhere to be found.
Isn't this just a little bit weird?
Mrs. Clinton is Obama's sexual advisor. When he wants her effing opinion he will ask for it. Her primary role is as scapegoat when things go wrong.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 4:21:53am |
re: #320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a SIL and friend who are teachers in year round programs.
I don't think I'd like that very much.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 4:22:20am |
re: #326 3 wood
The One is not going to like this:
JPMorgan $29 Billion WaMu Windfall Turned Bad Loans Into Income
I expect to see Barney Frank and Geithner jump all over this one, making a profit is so taboo now, you know.
The rule isn't new; it's been on the books since before the current crisis began. If anyone in an oversight capacity (Geithner, Frank, et al) claims they weren't aware of it, all that does is boldly underscore their own phosphorescent incompetence.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 4:22:58am |
re: #321 Jim in Virginia
Yawn.
Norks and Iranians rattling sabers and the MSM is dealing with teary adolescent tales. Hauser is the current Nataiie Holloway. It's tragic, but it is only front page news for tabloids.
I apologize for wasting your freakin' time.
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3 wood Tue, May 26, 2009 4:23:46am |
Banks in Europe still don;t trust each other.
Lowest Libor Hides ‘Exceptionally Wide’ Bank Spreads
May 26 (Bloomberg) -- The drop in the London interbank offered rate, the benchmark for $360 trillion of financial products, to a record low masks a growing gap between the rates that the biggest banks charge each other for credit.
The difference between the highest and lowest interest rates banks say they pay for three-month dollar-denominated loans is near the widest this year, according to data compiled by the British Bankers’ Association. The spread signals that lenders still lack confidence in each other, even though measures ranging from the so-called Libor-OIS spread to corporate bond sales show credit markets have recovered from the freeze caused by the Sept. 15 collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
“It’s premature to judge that the credit meltdown is fully over,” said Kazuto Uchida, chief economist in Tokyo at Bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd., a unit of Japan’s largest bank. “Banks remain wary of extending credit to each other due to strenuous concerns about counterparty risk.”
That last line means the banks don't trust each other farther than you can throw your car.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 4:24:22am |
re: #325 SixDegrees
Part of the deal. Federal, state and local authorities put the word out last week that if she turned the kid over to the court, she wouldn't face charges. Local authorities have now formally dropped their warrants; the Feds haven't done so, but will as soon as the Federal court offices open this morning and a judge signs off.
So she flouts a court order and skates. Well, I suppose the goal is to get the child ino treatment.
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3 wood Tue, May 26, 2009 4:25:19am |
re: #329 SixDegrees
The rule isn't new; it's been on the books since before the current crisis began. If anyone in an oversight capacity (Geithner, Frank, et al) claims they weren't aware of it, all that does is boldly underscore their own phosphorescent incompetence.
That has not bothered these people much in the past.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 4:27:13am |
re: #331 3 wood
Banks in Europe still don;t trust each other.
Lowest Libor Hides ‘Exceptionally Wide’ Bank Spreads
That last line means the banks don't trust each other farther than you can throw your car.
I can't blame them. I keep waiting for credit card defaults to start washing over the banking industry. They seem ill prepared to deal with it. Their current policy - slapping late payers with huge penalties and jacking their interest rates up into the 30%+ range - seems like a recipe for disaster.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 4:29:22am |
re: #332 MandyManners
So she flouts a court order and skates. Well, I suppose the goal is to get the child ino treatment.
That was the desired outcome. They're there. Authorities made the offer to rescind prosecution simultaneously with their announcement of warrants, so I don't really have a problem with them holding up their end of the bargain.
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 4:30:04am |
re: #334 3 wood
That has not bothered these people much in the past.
True, that. I keep hoping the banks will call them on their hypocrisy, though.
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3 wood Tue, May 26, 2009 4:31:14am |
Chrysler in legal tussle with Indiana.
Chrysler fires back at Indiana challenge
LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- A fight between Chrysler LLC and the state of Indiana heated up Monday, as the bankrupt automaker argued that a legal review demanded by the state would do harm to both parties.
Attorneys for a pair of Indiana state pension funds and a state construction fund are slated to appear at a U.S. district court Tuesday to challenge the legality of Chrysler's plan to exit bankruptcy protection.
The funds, which hold a combined $42.5 million of Chrysler's total $6.9 billion in secured debt, have said that the unprecedented role of the Treasury Department makes a legal review of the automakers protection from its creditors necessary, according to an Associated Press report.
However, in a statement Monday, Chrysler criticized the state's position, singling out Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock, who is protesting
Chrysler's bankruptcy and planned sale on behalf of the three state funds, which he oversees.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 4:39:37am |
Wow. Have I detected a shorter fuse here lately?
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rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 4:47:03am |
re: #340 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Long weekend. Tuesday is the new Monday.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 4:47:52am |
re: #341 rightside
I guess. Well, hell with it. I'll try to stay chipper (like in Fargo).
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freetoken Tue, May 26, 2009 4:48:13am |
re: #340 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Swapped out the 30A for a 15A.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 4:49:20am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 4:49:54am |
re: #343 freetoken
Is that a joke about fuses?
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srb1976 Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:44am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 4:57:49am |
re: #347 rightside
(wood-chipper as a way to dispose of inconveniences...you know...bodies)
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:34am |
Rove will be on Fox shortly to give his .02 on FCBBHO and North Korea.
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rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 5:04:02am |
What are the odds the madeleine not-so-bright will be called in secretly to negotiate with lil kim? I mean, she did such a good job with him last time!
/curses, foiled again.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:45am |
Well, he's talking about the Supreme Court now, says it's a very quick announcement.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:34am |
Empathy v. a restrained view of the judiciary: nice summation, Rove.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:12:12am |
In which law school class is empathy taught? Where is it mentioned in the Constitution? Is it as important as legal acumen?
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rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 5:15:00am |
re: #353 MandyManners
Social justice through the courts. Lovely.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:18:07am |
Rove says we should use the two resolutions we got from the UN in 2006: get the Chinese to cut off the oil and interdict North Korean vessels. Maybe Clinton worked on the first one in China recently.
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opnion Tue, May 26, 2009 5:29:15am |
Good morning. After a three day holiday weekend, there is nothing like getting up at 4:50 am to get to the airport & then get perp walked through security.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:29:25am |
re: #354 rightside
Social justice through the courts. Lovely.
Judicial activism has its place but in a restricted manner. For instance, for years one state clung to contributory negligence* based on a case about 150 years old. *(If a plaintiff had one iota of culpability in an accident, she was barred from collecting a cent from the defendant.) Just about every other state--and, the federal government--had abandoned that standard, and the list of injustices was piled higher than the Himalayas.
So, that state's supreme court decided to force the legislators to change the statutes by adopting the doctrine of comparative fault, in which a plaintiff could recover damages if her role was 49 per cent or lower.
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opnion Tue, May 26, 2009 5:36:37am |
Interesting discussion on the radio yesterday, President Nixon made promises to the government of South Viet Nam. He told them that if the North violated the Paris Peace Accords & invaded the South that the U.S would respond, with cash , material , air support & even ground troops as needed.
Nixon of course had to resign office & the North invaded. President Ford begged the Democrat Congress to honor Nixon's commitments. They refused & Teddy Kennedy even got a resolution through to deny medical aid. A horror show ensued.
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rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 5:37:17am |
re: #357 MandyManners
Since souter is retiring, and ginsburg sure to follow soon, I am sure the two nominees will be far leftists. He has to have been thinking he needs two choices, and can kill two birds with one stone by vetting the choices now. Won't change the ideological makeup of the court much, if at all, IMO.
It will be interesting to see what the GOP does.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:39:26am |
re: #360 rightside
Since souter is retiring, and ginsburg sure to follow soon, I am sure the two nominees will be far leftists. He has to have been thinking he needs two choices, and can kill two birds with one stone by vetting the choices now. Won't change the ideological makeup of the court much, if at all, IMO.
It will be interesting to see what the GOP does.
The balance might be unchanged but, depending on the personalities of the new justices it could polarize the court but, that would be okay.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 5:41:00am |
I have never been captivated by the issue of selecting SCOTUS justices. But this one may be a bit different. Will the Republicans pick this fight to go to the mat? And if they do, will they risk pissing off Hispanic voters since the Dems and their toadies in the MSM are sure to spin any opposition by the GOP as an anti-minority situation. If the Repubs are going to fight this nomination, they better have the goods on her or they are going to walk right into a political trap.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:41:30am |
Well they don't come any more to the left than this pick unless your gonna pick a Ayers? G-D help us all.
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rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 5:41:33am |
re: #361 MandyManners
I'm curious as to the status of ginsburg. Whether she is resting/undergoing treatment, or physically still at work. When one becomes incapacitated, do they continue hearing cases, despite the possibility of an even vote?
Anyone know?
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:42:34am |
re: #362 _RememberTonyC
I have never been captivated by the issue of selecting SCOTUS justices. But this one may be a bit different. Will the Republicans pick this fight to go to the mat? And if they do, will they risk pissing off Hispanic voters since the Dems and their toadies in the MSM are sure to spin any opposition by the GOP as an anti-minority situation. If the Repubs are going to fight this nomination, they better have the goods on her or they are going to walk right into a political trap.
Ya mean they better be competent for once ha?
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:44:03am |
re: #364 rightside
I'm curious as to the status of ginsburg. Whether she is resting/undergoing treatment, or physically still at work. When one becomes incapacitated, do they continue hearing cases, despite the possibility of an even vote?
Anyone know?
I don't think she is incapacitated but basically a Supreme Court Justice is a world onto themselves.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:44:24am |
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:44:53am |
re: #362 _RememberTonyC
I have never been captivated by the issue of selecting SCOTUS justices. But this one may be a bit different. Will the Republicans pick this fight to go to the mat? And if they do, will they risk pissing off Hispanic voters since the Dems and their toadies in the MSM are sure to spin any opposition by the GOP as an anti-minority situation. If the Repubs are going to fight this nomination, they better have the goods on her or they are going to walk right into a political trap.
I hope they get over being called names.
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avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 5:45:31am |
re: #366 Nevergiveup
Ya mean they better be competent for once ha?
She was the furthest left of all the picks, but now is the best time for BHO to push her through with his early popularity. BTW, she was first appointed to the federal courts by Bush I.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:45:34am |
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:46:28am |
re: #370 avanti
She was the furthest left of all the picks, but now is the best time for BHO to push her through with his early popularity. BTW, she was first appointed to the federal courts by Bush I.
Your right about your first point and there is no need to remind me about the second this early in the AM is there?
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avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 5:47:27am |
re: #372 Nevergiveup
Your right about your first point and there is no need to remind me about the second this early in the AM is there?
Sorry, it was news to me. BTW, good morning all.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:47:54am |
re: #364 rightside
I'm curious as to the status of ginsburg. Whether she is resting/undergoing treatment, or physically still at work. When one becomes incapacitated, do they continue hearing cases, despite the possibility of an even vote?
Anyone know?
Wiki says she's doing fine.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 5:49:34am |
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:49:44am |
re: #373 avanti
Sorry, it was news to me. BTW, good morning all.
Well since Bush also nominated Souter, I guess there is a kind of symmetry there?
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:49:54am |
Her behavior on the video of her saying that the appellate courts are the ones where policy is made shows that she knows her POV is controversial.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 5:50:28am |
re: #369 MandyManners
I hope they get over being called names.
we'll see if they can collectively "grow a pair."
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:50:49am |
re: #377 MandyManners
Her behavior on the video of her saying that the appellate courts are the ones where policy is made shows that she knows her POV is controversial.
Also constitutionally inaccurate. But who's counting?
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SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 5:51:15am |
re: #364 rightside
I'm curious as to the status of ginsburg. Whether she is resting/undergoing treatment, or physically still at work. When one becomes incapacitated, do they continue hearing cases, despite the possibility of an even vote?
Anyone know?
There's no requirement that an odd number of justices hear a case, or even be present on the court. There have been a number of cases in recent years where a single justice recused themselves for one reason or another, leaving eight to hear the case.
Not certain what happens in the case of a draw. I would imagine it gets kicked back to the referring court's ruling in such cases, just as a refusal to hear the case would be.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 5:51:53am |
re: #366 Nevergiveup
Ya mean they better be competent for once ha?
they used to be ... I miss Reagan
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:52:27am |
So N Korea is exploding Nukes. launching missiles, and the radicals are taking over the Supreme Court? And it's not even a Monday Morning? Go figure.
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opnion Tue, May 26, 2009 5:54:19am |
re: #377 MandyManners
Her behavior on the video of her saying that the appellate courts are the ones where policy is made shows that she knows her POV is controversial.
A real judicial activist. She believes in the Constitution as a living document rather than interpreting Original Intent.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:54:45am |
Geraldo is orgasmic based on her ethnicity.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:55:23am |
FOX has Gerlado on the phone. She is a "wonderful" "wonderful" Pick. Fuck off Geraldo.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:55:29am |
re: #379 _RememberTonyC
we'll see if they can collectively "grow a pair."
Maybe it'd help if we prodded them with a flood of e-mails, letters and calls.
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opnion Tue, May 26, 2009 5:56:14am |
re: #386 Nevergiveup
FOX has Gerlado on the phone. She is a "wonderful" "wonderful" Pick. Fuck off Geraldo.
Geraldo is predictible.
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rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 5:56:18am |
re: #386 Nevergiveup
Talk about identity politics. Sheesh.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:56:44am |
re: #380 Nevergiveup
Also constitutionally inaccurate. But who's counting?
But, empathy is more important that the Constitution for FCBBHO!
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 5:57:19am |
Good Morning LGF.
I saw a mosquito on Sunday which I initially mistook for a small crow with a beak the size of a heart needle.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 5:57:32am |
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pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 5:58:16am |
Fuck the Constitution! It's how she feels about the cases. KKKos Kiddies.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 5:58:35am |
re: #387 MandyManners
Maybe it'd help if we prodded them with a flood of e-mails, letters and calls.
here's the Senate Judiciary Committee roster ... she won't be getting too many tough questions from this crew:
[Link: judiciary.senate.gov...]
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:58:52am |
re: #384 opnion
A real judicial activist. She believes in the Constitution as a living document rather than interpreting Original Intent.
As I noted in my No. 357, activism is fine in a limited way but, someone who is a cheerleader for it is distressing.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 5:59:50am |
re: #391 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
I saw a mosquito on Sunday which I initially mistook for a small crow with a beak the size of a heart needle.
I remember ones the size of C-130s when I grew up in Tennessee.
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right_wing2 Tue, May 26, 2009 6:00:00am |
Sotomayer- yet another in a long list of clueless picks by The Chosen One. If elevated to the Supreme Court, she'll have more opportunity to destroy this country than any of his cabinet nominees.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:01:26am |
re: #394 _RememberTonyC
here's the Senate Judiciary Committee roster ... she won't be getting too many tough questions from this crew:
[Link: judiciary.senate.gov...]
I don't see Hatch lying down. I wonder how Specter will behave. Remember the ass kicking he gave Anita Hill?
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:01:48am |
I wonder if Team Obama has vetted her tax returns?
You know ... to make sure she HASN'T paid them ...
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:02:15am |
re: #397 right_wing2
Sotomayer- yet another in a long list of clueless picks by The Chosen One. If elevated to the Supreme Court, she'll have more opportunity to destroy this country than any of his cabinet nominees.
Sotomayor is replacing another liberal.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 6:02:27am |
re: #396 MandyManners
I remember ones the size of C-130s when I grew up in Tennessee.
Gimme my tennis raquet and get the wimmin and childrin inside!
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:02:31am |
re: #398 MandyManners
I don't see Hatch lying down. I wonder how Specter will behave. Remember the ass kicking he gave Anita Hill?
Two words, Mandy: Patrick Leahy
/spit/
| 403 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:03:00am |
re: #398 MandyManners
And remember that nasty julianne malveaux, hoping Clarence Thomas' wife would feed him lots of eggs and butter, so he dies early of a heart attack?
| 405 |
right_wing2 Tue, May 26, 2009 6:04:02am |
re: #400 MandyManners
Very true, but I think she's further to the left than Souter was.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:04:26am |
re: #401 Spare O'Lake
Gimme my tennis raquet and get the wimmin and childrin inside!
No flame-thrower?
| 407 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:04:50am |
A very good summation of the events of last week.
| 408 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:05:10am |
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:05:12am |
re: #397 right_wing2
Sotomayer- yet another in a long list of clueless picks by The Chosen One. If elevated to the Supreme Court, she'll have more opportunity to destroy this country than any of his cabinet nominees.
Nice avatar
| 411 |
MJ Tue, May 26, 2009 6:05:58am |
U.S. to Respond to North Korea with ‘Strongest Possible Adjectives’
By Andy Borowitz
Obama: We are Prepared to Consult Thesaurus
One day after North Korea launched a successful test of a nuclear weapon, President Obama said that the United States was prepared to respond to the threat with "the strongest possible adjectives..."
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]
That's about all we are prepared to do...and Iran.
| 412 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:06:06am |
Need less blood in my caffeine-stream. bbiab
| 414 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:08:39am |
She grew up in the Bronx, so one would assume she is a Yankee Fan. But she probably hates Sports because there are "winners" and "Losers" and we all know that is no good.
| 415 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:11:07am |
The rain falls down on last year's man,
that's a Jew's harp on the table,
that's a crayon in his hand.
And the corners of the blueprint are ruined since they rolled
far past the stems of thumbtacks
that still throw shadows on the wood.
And the skylight is like skin for a drum I'll never mend
and all the rain falls down amen
on the works of last year's man.I met a lady, she was playing with her soldiers in the dark
oh one by one she had to tell them
that her name was Joan of Arc.
I was in that army, yes I stayed a little while;
I want to thank you, Joan of Arc,
for treating me so well.
And though I wear a uniform I was not born to fight;
all these wounded boys you lie beside,
goodnight, my friends, goodnight.I came upon a wedding that old families had contrived;
Bethlehem the bridegroom,
Babylon the bride.
Great Babylon was naked, oh she stood there trembling for me,
and Bethlehem inflamed us both
like the shy one at some orgy.
And when we fell together all our flesh was like a veil
that I had to draw aside to see
the serpent eat its tail.Some women wait for Jesus, and some women wait for Cain
so I hang upon my altar
and I voice my acts again.
And I take the one who finds me back to where it all began
when Jesus was the honeymoon
and Cain was just the man.
And we read from pleasant Bibles that are bound in blood and skin
that the wilderness is gathering
all its children back again.The rain falls down on last year's man,
an hour has gone by
and he has not moved his hand.
But everything will happen if he only gives the word;
the lovers will rise up
and the mountains touch the ground.
But the skylight is like skin for a drum I'll never mend
and all the rain falls down amen
on the works of last year's man.L. Cohen, 1970
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, May 26, 2009 6:11:44am |
re: #364 rightside
I'm curious as to the status of ginsburg. Whether she is resting/undergoing treatment, or physically still at work. When one becomes incapacitated, do they continue hearing cases, despite the possibility of an even vote?
Anyone know?
Remember Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist who died in 2005? He worked right-up to the end.
| 417 |
Lincolntf Tue, May 26, 2009 6:12:22am |
Morning all.
Supposing this Hispanic woman gets confirmed, will we be done with "Firsts" for a while? It would be nice to see people at least paying lip service to actual qualifications. That goes for both Parties and applies to countless positions besides the SC.
| 418 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:12:39am |
re: #403 rightside
And remember that nasty julianne malveaux, hoping Clarence Thomas' wife would feed him lots of eggs and butter, so he dies early of a heart attack?
this diabolical plot was foiled by Lipitor ...
| 419 |
FrogMarch Tue, May 26, 2009 6:12:51am |
The latest Dr. Utopia talking point:
“I’ve bankrupted the nation, so now your only hope is to pass my healthcare plan.”
| 420 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:13:28am |
re: #418 _RememberTonyC
this diabolical plot was foiled by Lipitor ...
I had 4 lamb chops last night?
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Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:16:48am |
re: #384 opnion
A real judicial activist. She believes in the Constitution as a living document rather than interpreting Original Intent.
Given Obama had declared the Constitution fatally flawed because it did not guarantee Americans a minimum income, she's exactly what he is looking for.
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:22:17am |
I really hope the debate of her nomination does not degenerate into shouting over abortion.
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soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:22:25am |
re: #414 Nevergiveup
She grew up in the Bronx, so one would assume she is a Yankee Fan. But she probably hates Sports because there are "winners" and "Losers" and we all know that is no good.
The fact that she is a Yankee fan should be cause enough to question her judgement and ability to do the job.
| 426 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:23:44am |
re: #423 MandyManners
I really hope the debate of her nomination does not degenerate into shouting over abortion.
I wish that Americans would get over that hurdle and stop letting politicians and activists divisde us with these types of issues while they stand united in their effort to rob us blind.
| 427 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:25:54am |
re: #420 Nevergiveup
I had 4 lamb chops last night?
one pill should do ya'
I love that drug ... I can eat cheese to my heart's content and my cholesterol is great!
| 428 |
freetoken Tue, May 26, 2009 6:26:32am |
re: #426 soxfan4life
Wondering what exactly will be raised at the confirmation hearings. Also, I am not sure exactly what hypothetical rulings are driving people to get so excited of this. My thinking is that the SC isn't a body that usually overturns its past rulings, so does anybody expect there to be any changes in, for example, Roe V Wade?
| 429 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:26:39am |
re: #423 MandyManners
I really hope the debate of her nomination does not degenerate into shouting over abortion.
that's what should be in your email to Hatch, et al!
| 430 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:27:38am |
re: #424 soxfan4life
The fact that she is a Yankee fan should be cause enough to question her judgement and ability to do the job.
if she has to root for ARod, she has suffered enough
| 431 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:27:54am |
re: #423 MandyManners
I really hope the debate of her nomination does not degenerate into shouting over abortion.
Another divider that keeps our eyes off of what the legislators are doing to us is the gay marriage issue. Today the California Supreme Court will hear the Prop 8 issue despite the voter results.
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
And now 0 wants to put someone on the bench who believes policy is made by the Court of Appeals.
| 432 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:28:13am |
re: #424 soxfan4life
The fact that she is a Yankee fan should be cause enough to question her judgement and ability to do the job.
I don't know if she is, I was just saying. And I am sure she hates competition.
| 433 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 6:28:15am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Obama will be picking New Yorker Sonia Sotamayor to replace Souter on the US Supreme Court. It wont cause a shift in the ideological makeup of the Court, but it does go to show that elections have consequences - in this case it's Obama who's picking liberal judges to the bench.
We'll see if there are any skeletons in Sotamayor's closet that we don't know about - and given that Obama's team of vetters hasn't exactly distinguished itself in the nomination process thus far, nothing would surprise me if we learned that she was a tax cheat or had a nanny problem or any of the usual problems that have derailed candidates in the past.
And even if there are problems, she might get confirmed in any case because the Democrats have the numbers.
| 435 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:28:30am |
re: #428 freetoken
No change in Roe V Wade, but expect a lot of attempts to legislate from the bench, new 'rights' found in the Constitution, that aren't there.
| 436 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:28:53am |
re: #427 _RememberTonyC
one pill should do ya'
I love that drug ... I can eat cheese to my heart's content and my cholesterol is great!
I take Crestor.
| 437 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:29:41am |
re: #434 Iron Fist
She should be thoroughly vetted. If she is a Liberal in the model of Ginsberg she should be rejected. At worst, the Republicans should attempt a filibuster. Remember how W's appointments were treated by the Democrts? Payback time!
I don't expect that from the Senate Republicans, perhaps the only group of individuals more milquetoast than our current President.
| 438 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 6:30:09am |
re: #424 soxfan4life
The fact that she is a Yankee fan should be cause enough to question her judgement and ability to do the job.
I see what you did thar.
| 439 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:30:36am |
re: #426 soxfan4life
I wish that Americans would get over that hurdle and stop letting politicians and activists divisde us with these types of issues while they stand united in their effort to rob us blind.
The ideological example of circus maximus?
| 440 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:31:05am |
| 441 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:31:32am |
re: #435 pingjockey
They're still in the minority on the court. I don't see much changing in the near future.
| 442 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:31:56am |
the dems have the numbers ... she will be confirmed unless there is a massive scandal that forces her to withdraw. but if she survives the process and a vote is taken, she is in. the best hope for the GOP is that if there are skeletons in her closet, they pick the right ones to oppose. Jeff Sessions has a chance to step up ... will he rise to the occasion?
| 443 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:31:58am |
re: #431 soxfan4life
Another divider that keeps our eyes off of what the legislators are doing to us is the gay marriage issue. Today the California Supreme Court will hear the Prop 8 issue despite the voter results.
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
And now 0 wants to put someone on the bench who believes policy is made by the Court of Appeals.
It's one big "SHINY OBJECT"!
| 444 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:32:24am |
Somebody posted a link to this essay yesterday, & it's so good I had to post a quote:
Who cares? Who cares about Barack Obama's father, his mother, or his "own American journey"? Is his journey so noteworthy that it needs to be intruded into a presidential speech on weighty matters of constitutional law and public policy, of civil liberties and national security?
...Even by the standard of political types, he seems strikingly self-preoccupied and self-referential.
Doesn't Obama's self-regard sometimes seem greater than his regard for the position he occupies? Does he understand that the office of the presidency is bigger--much bigger--than he is? Or does Obama think of the presidency primarily as a vessel through which to exercise his political gifts and pursue his personal achievements?
It's the narcissism, stupid.
| 445 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:33:01am |
re: #441 rightside
They're still in the minority on the court. I don't see much changing in the near future.
You don't think 0 will pull a FDR type of play and threaten opposing justices with impeachment if they don't hop on board.
| 446 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:33:06am |
re: #436 Nevergiveup
I take Crestor.
actually, I take zocor. my HMO wouldn't pay for lipitor ... all of the statins are good. thank you "Big Pharma."
| 447 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:33:17am |
re: #433 lawhawk
It wont cause a shift in the ideological makeup of the Court, but it does go to show that elections have consequences - in this case it's Obama who's picking liberal judges to the bench.
I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!
| 449 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:33:27am |
re: #441 rightside
Nope. I'm thinking of goofy stuff like the SCOTUS allowing Conneticut, IIRC to confiscate private property for private development, and other oddball stuff, think 9th Circus!
| 450 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:33:55am |
re: #434 Iron Fist
She should be thoroughly vetted. If she is a Liberal in the model of Ginsberg she should be rejected. At worst, the Republicans should attempt a filibuster. Remember how W's appointments were treated by the Democrts? Payback time!
From what I've seen, she makes Ginsburg look like Ghengis Khan.
| 451 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:35:13am |
re: #447 MandyManners
I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!
That never gets old. And we can't say it enough over the next 3 1/2 years.
| 452 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:35:35am |
re: #450 MandyManners
From what I've seen, she makes Ginsburg look like Ghengis Khan.
Actually I think she looks alittle like Ghengis?
| 453 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:35:50am |
re: #449 pingjockey
Kelo. Yeah, I have no idea why that happened. Too bad they didn't grab souters house.
| 454 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:36:32am |
re: #452 Nevergiveup
That's Jengis....Jon Halp Uz Kary...English Prof and traitor.
| 455 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:36:41am |
re: #450 MandyManners
From what I've seen, she makes Ginsburg look like Ghengis Khan.
I never thought I would say this, but why couldn't HRC have won.
| 457 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:37:20am |
| 458 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:37:40am |
| 459 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:37:58am |
re: #452 Nevergiveup
How was your memorial day yesterday, Doc?
| 460 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:38:13am |
re: #455 soxfan4life
I never thought I would say this, but why couldn't HRC have won.
Her nominees would be just as liberal and activist.
| 461 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:38:28am |
re: #453 rightside
Kelo. Yeah, I have no idea why that happened. Too bad they didn't grab souters house.
That was all that Souter cared about, once they assured him that wouldn't happen they sealed his vote.
| 462 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:38:49am |
| 464 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:39:10am |
re: #458 MandyManners
And, Scalia's a hunk?!
Well as a rule, I usually don't think all that much about how other guys look. But I get your point.
| 466 |
MoleOnABull Tue, May 26, 2009 6:39:51am |
hello everyone and greetings from Florida. sitting in class right now, listening to professor drone on about redox reactions and redox potentials...blah blah blah. anyways.. some interesting conversations goin on in here :)
| 467 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 6:40:19am |
re: #459 rightside
How was your memorial day yesterday, Doc?
Not bad. A little expensive. My oldest daughter who graduated from college last week got her present. A new Apple Mac Book. And yours?
| 468 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:41:29am |
re: #465 Iron Fist
Yeah, I'm afraid you are right. I wish W could have appointed one more justice. As is, despite his fumbling with that Meirs (sp?) woman, W knocked it out of the park twice. We owe him a debt of gratitude for that.
For appointing Roberts as Chief Justice GWB deserves a statue. Funny how 0 didn't vote for this qualified justice, which is exactly the argument we will hear about Sotomeyer.
| 469 |
MJ Tue, May 26, 2009 6:41:36am |
Tom Goldstein writes:
Even more important, Republicans cannot afford to find themselves in the position of implicitly opposing Judge Sotomayor. To Hispanics, the nomination would be an absolutely historic landmark. It really is impossible to overstate its significance. The achievement of a lifetime appointment at the absolute highest levels of the government is a profound event for that community, which in turn is a vital electoral group now and in the future......For Republican Senators to come after Judge Sotomayor is not only hopeless when it comes to confirmation (something that did not deter Democrats in their attacks on Roberts and Alito) but a strategy that risks exacting a very significant political cost among Hispanics and independent voters generally, assuming that the attacks aren’t backed up with considerable substance.
[Link: www.scotusblog.com...]
| 470 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:41:49am |
re: #467 Nevergiveup
A very relaxing day. Did the obligatory bbq chicken, mashed potatoes, mac n cheese, corn on the cob, rolls, and baked beans.
Guess what I'm having for lunch AND dinner tonight?
| 471 |
freetoken Tue, May 26, 2009 6:43:25am |
re: #435 pingjockey
No change in Roe V Wade, but expect a lot of attempts to legislate from the bench, new 'rights' found in the Constitution, that aren't there.
OK... but, for example... what exactly do you expect to be "found"? Can you give me examples? Euthanasia? Gay Marriage? How would we expecgt Sotomayor to rule on such cases that would be different than, say, Souter would have done?
/I'm just not feeling any emotions over this SC nomination.
| 472 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 6:43:57am |
Are we outraged yet?
Obama to name Sotomayor as Supreme Court nominee
| 473 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:44:01am |
re: #470 rightside
Heh. We did kabobs, Orange Chicken and London broil soaked in beer and lime juice with green peppers, onions, red potatos, and pineapple.
| 475 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 6:44:58am |
re: #468 soxfan4life
For appointing Roberts as Chief Justice GWB deserves a statue. Funny how 0 didn't vote for this qualified justice, which is exactly the argument we will hear about Sotomeyer.
I never got how all the hype on Roberts just suddenly fizzled out before he was nominated...
| 476 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:45:45am |
re: #471 freetoken
You're right. She will be to left of Ginsburg, IMO. I think some stuff that should be left to the states will end up maybe getting SCOTUS approval.
| 478 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:11am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
See my above. Elections have consequences.
| 479 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:15am |
re: #471 freetoken
OK... but, for example... what exactly do you expect to be "found"? Can you give me examples? Euthanasia? Gay Marriage? How would we expecgt Sotomayor to rule on such cases that would be different than, say, Souter would have done?
/I'm just not feeling any emotions over this SC nomination.
And if a conservative ever said this...
"“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees."
The shit would hit the fan. Don't you feel the love?
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
| 480 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:20am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
Are we outraged yet?
Obama to name Sotomayor as Supreme Court nominee
| 481 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:22am |
re: #468 soxfan4life
For appointing Roberts as Chief Justice GWB deserves a statue. Funny how 0 didn't vote for this qualified justice, which is exactly the argument we will hear about Sotomeyer.
Obama will never be a great president until he stops campaigning and starts focusing on the real priorities. Period. The problem, of course is that HIS priorities are all political. Who will have the guts to call him out on this?
| 482 |
FrogMarch Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:25am |
re: #434 Iron Fist
She should be thoroughly vetted. If she is a Liberal in the model of Ginsberg she should be rejected. At worst, the Republicans should attempt a filibuster. Remember how W's appointments were treated by the Democrts? Payback time!
Hi IronFist. Except we should be cautious because as we know, the left has rules about criticizing or opposing anyone based on their political ideas. oops, I mean skin color and ethnic group.
3) POLITICAL CORRECTNESS - As far as political correctness, just listen to the rants of morons like Janeane Garafolo who is rather typical of the the dedicated leftist grunt (better known as the "useful idiot") and who sees anyone who opposes the left's magnificent ideas as racists; or homophobes; or whatever term they think they can get away with. It is purely ideologically driven and not based on any principle except the principle of the moment. Meanwhile, the "anyone who disagrees with Obama must be a racist" meme has the effect of squelching debate and free speech--which is precisely what the left intends.
[Link: drsanity.blogspot.com...]
| 483 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:35am |
re: #464 Nevergiveup
Well as a rule, I usually don't think all that much about how other guys look. But I get your point.
I didn't think I needed a big plank to get it across.
| 484 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 6:46:43am |
re: #447 MandyManners
I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!
You do have that saved as a snippet, right?
| 485 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:47:14am |
OMG! Revrund Al is gonna be at this announcement.
Wonder what kind of BS will fly out of his festering pie hole?
| 486 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:47:40am |
re: #465 Iron Fist
Yeah, I'm afraid you are right. I wish W could have appointed one more justice. As is, despite his fumbling with that Meirs (sp?) woman, W knocked it out of the park twice. We owe him a debt of gratitude for that.
I wonder if Souter waited to retire until after the election.
| 487 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:47:42am |
re: #469 MJ
Tom Goldstein writes:
[Link: www.scotusblog.com...]
I said almost exactly the same thing earlier in the thread. I hope he didn't plagiarize my post!
| 488 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 6:48:19am |
re: #467 Nevergiveup
Not bad. A little expensive. My oldest daughter who graduated from college last week got her present. A new Apple Mac Book. And yours?
Updinged ya just for that! I take it you also have a Mac system?
| 490 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:48:36am |
| 492 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:49:59am |
Anticipation & Prevention vs Denial & Disaster
Cheney has said that the Bush administration's approach may have saved "hundreds of thousands" of lives....But terrorism experts said that though it is possible to envision scenarios that involve casualties of that magnitude, no evidence has emerged about the plots disrupted during the Bush administration to suggest that Cheney's claim is true.
"It's an easy thing to say and a difficult thing to prove," said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Georgetown University. "I think it's another broadside in this ongoing feud."
Obama has also made assertions in the counter-terrorism debate that are difficult to assess. In making the case Thursday for closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, he said that the island prison had "likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained."
But "nobody knows that for a fact," Schmitt said. "That is the reason why this is such a hard debate in some ways -- because until one actually sees the intelligence they're sitting on, it's virtually impossible to make a judgment that what either Obama or Cheney is saying is spot on."
Interesting, isn't it, that Cheney is demanding that intelligence be released, but Obama doesn't want it to be? That alone should tell you something important...
The consequences of what might have been are indeed unrecordable. The thing about prevention is that...it prevents really bad things from happening. By the very act of preventing a bad thing from happening, you can never then prove that it might have occurred in the first place.
...We come now to why anticipation (a mature psychological defense, and one of the few that is conscious and deliberate) is so superior to denial. The former prevents disasters, while the latter enables them.
| 493 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 6:50:40am |
re: #480 NJDhockeyfan
I'n not sure if that's going to be enough to disqualify her.
| 494 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:50:53am |
re: #479 Walter L. Newton
Can you imagine a white male saying that about a latina? Can you say riot?
| 495 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:51:06am |
re: #485 pingjockey
OMG! Revrund Al is gonna be at this announcement.
Wonder what kind of BS will fly out of his festering pie hole?
rev al is the gift that keeps on giving. since BHO has been Prez, al and jesse have been marginalized. I hope al has saved something good for today ...
| 496 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:51:29am |
re: #474 rightside
The odds are so stacked against conservatives.
Not as the Court is constituted right now. As long as Souter and possibly Ginsberg are 0's justices to replace he will only be rplacing liberals with radicals. It's Kennedy, Scalia and Stephens we need to be concerned with
| 497 |
pingjockey Tue, May 26, 2009 6:52:20am |
re: #495 _RememberTonyC
I get a kick out of Limbaughs parodies of Al where he is hollering through a megaphone.
| 498 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:52:37am |
re: #477 lawhawk
That would be Kim Il Sung, the malignant narcissist. Obama is just a garden variety narcissist. As much as I oppose Obama, I don't see him capable of the evil Kim Il Sung does daily.
Still, always worthwhile to post a video for my home town lads, Rush.
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 6:52:58am |
re: #478 lawhawk
Yeah, after an initial glance she appears qualified. Despite the claims of her being a radical activist she's probably not. Dubbya seemed to like her ok.
| 501 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 6:53:05am |
God! I'm glad I'm not eating or drinking anything right about now. Here's why, from nominee Sotomayor:
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
Is this not Racist or what!
| 502 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:53:42am |
re: #493 Killgore Trout
I'n not sure if that's going to be enough to disqualify her.
It will be if the opposition hammers it home.
| 503 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:53:50am |
re: #496 soxfan4life
I meant more in general, not about SCOTUS. I should have been more clear. With the drive-bys, and those weasel slapper democrats, we have a long, hard climb.
| 504 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 6:54:36am |
re: #503 rightside
I meant more in general, not about SCOTUS. I should have been more clear. With the drive-bys, and those weasel slapper
democratsDemo☭rats, we have a long, hard climb.
There, fixed that for ya!
| 505 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:55:15am |
re: #494 rightside
Can you imagine a white male saying that about a latina? Can you say riot?
It would make the Thomas hearing look like a day in Montessori school.
| 506 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 6:55:29am |
re: #497 pingjockey
I get a kick out of Limbaughs parodies of Al where he is hollering through a megaphone.
Rush is at his best when he does stuff like that. Entertainment (more than ideology) is the secret to his success.
| 507 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:55:53am |
re: #503 rightside
I meant more in general, not about SCOTUS. I should have been more clear. With the drive-bys, and those weasel slapper democrats, we have a long, hard climb.
A true conservative should be able to win in a landslide in 2012, as well as the midterms in 2010. But if Republicans want to run as Dem lite as has been their bent they can and should expect to be beaten down.
| 508 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 6:56:28am |
re: #499 Killgore Trout
Yeah, after an initial glance she appears qualified. Despite the claims of her being a radical activist she's probably not. Dubbya seemed to like her ok.
Her own words say she is an activist judge. She stated that the appellate courts are where policy changes are made.
| 509 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 6:56:50am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (70 degrees going up to 77 degrees) cloudy and humid (mucho thunderstorms predicted) Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
| 510 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 6:57:21am |
re: #497 pingjockey
I get a kick out of Limbaughs parodies of Al where he is hollering through a megaphone.
Actually, that's Paul Shanklin who does the Rev. Al parodies. And you're right, they are funny!
| 512 |
Dr. Shalit Tue, May 26, 2009 6:57:38am |
re: #447 MandyManners
I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!
Mandy -
AMEN.
IOW - 'ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!'
From what I can see so far, Judge Sotomayor is "clean" and minimally qualified at least. Pre-Bork that would have been enough to assure confirmation. Personally, were I a Senator, I would probably vote FOR confirmation on that basis, reserving a minute or two for a statement to that effect. My choice would have been Janice Rogers Brown. Perhaps she will be the choice of the NEXT President.
-S-
| 514 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 6:58:00am |
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor
So she's not just a woman, a liberal and a Latina, she's a racist & a sexist too!
I'm not sure somebody so lacking in rationality that they could make such an illogical statement is good choice for the SCOTUS.
| 516 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 6:58:32am |
re: #510 Macker
Actually, that's (white comic) Paul Shanklin who does the Rev. Al parodies. And you're right, they are funny!
FTFY
| 517 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 6:59:47am |
re: #508 MandyManners
Her own words say she is an activist judge. She stated that the appellate courts are where policy changes are made.
They're just words. When 0bama says words don't matter this is what the right needs to bring up.
| 518 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 6:59:51am |
re: #516 rightside
Yes, the el cubos would consider him a Racist!
| 519 |
midwestgak Tue, May 26, 2009 7:00:09am |
re: #509 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (70 degrees going up to 77 degrees) cloudy and humid (mucho thunderstorms predicted) Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Morning real. It is so cloudy here in Chicagoland that it looks like just passed sunset.
| 520 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:01:32am |
Good morning.
The estimates for the Norks' nuke test still seem to vary wildly, from 1.5kt up to about 20kt. In any case, they certainly seem to be greeting Obama's outstretched hand with an uplifted middle finger (as are the mullahs). Time to Ranger up, Barry.
| 521 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:01:37am |
re: #509 realwest
Rumblings of thunder outside. About damn time, it was searing today. (:
| 522 |
JustMyView Tue, May 26, 2009 7:01:52am |
re: #508 MandyManners
Her own words say she is an activist judge. She stated that the appellate courts are where policy changes are made.
But isn't that accurate in that appellate courts rule on the constitutionality of legislation?
| 523 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:02:20am |
re: #514 Kenneth
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor
Well, in that case, why not nominate Adriana Lima?
| 525 |
VioletTiger Tue, May 26, 2009 7:03:23am |
re: #509 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (70 degrees going up to 77 degrees) cloudy and humid (mucho thunderstorms predicted) Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Morning real and all lizards. It's raining here in South NJ, but the weekend was beautiful. How was everyone's long weekend?
| 526 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:03:26am |
re: #520 Occasional Reader
Good morning.
The estimates for the Norks' nuke test still seem to vary wildly, from 1.5kt up to about 20kt. In any case, they certainly seem to be greeting Obama's outstretched hand with an uplifted middle finger (as are the mullahs). Time to Ranger up, Barry.
I was going to fix this, but I realized middle fingers emanate from Clenched Fists!
| 527 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:03:49am |
re: #499 Killgore Trout
Yeah, after an initial glance she appears qualified. Despite the claims of her being a radical activist she's probably not. Dubbya seemed to like her ok.
Being qualified to be a judge and being acceptable to be a judge are two very separate issues
| 528 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:03:57am |
re: #522 JustMyView
But isn't that accurate in that appellate courts rule on the constitutionality of legislation?
Ummm... judges are supposed to be interpreting the law, based on the language thereof, legislative history, and precedent; not "making policy". You do get the distinction, right? They're supposed to be acting as neutral referees, not picking the winners.
| 529 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 7:04:27am |
Sotomayor will be confirmed, short of a scandal that forces her to withdraw. Deal with it folks. But use it to help gain an advantage for next time. If she has flaws, air all of them out in a dispassionate way. Force your opponents to defend the indefensible. Make them squirm. This is a chess game, not a "one and out" game.
She's in ... but be smart Senator Sessions!
| 530 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:04:48am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
Ummm... judges are supposed to be interpreting the law, based on the language thereof, legislative history, and precedent; not "making policy". You do get the distinction, right? They're supposed to be acting as neutral referees, not picking the winners.
Quick! Who's got an mp3 of Morris Albert's "Feelings" to play here. Dang it, I don't!
| 531 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, May 26, 2009 7:05:09am |
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:05:27am |
re: #511 Iron Fist
I've wondered the same thing myself. It sure looks that way, but Souter is an odd duck in anybody's world view. I can't say for certain why he does any of the things he does. I'll be glad to see him gone, I just wish W had gotten to appoint his successor.
I wonder who'll retire next.
| 533 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 7:05:54am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
That's what you think, racist bigot homophobe.
/////////
Adriana Lima would get my vote. Alessandra Ambrosio too!
| 534 |
midwestgak Tue, May 26, 2009 7:06:00am |
re: #525 VioletTiger
Morning real and all lizards. It's raining here in South NJ, but the weekend was beautiful. How was everyone's long weekend?
Most pleasant. Rain is scheduled for 3 p.m. or so, but it is so dark out, I wonder why it isn't pouring already.
| 535 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:06:29am |
re: #512 Dr. Shalit
Mandy -
AMEN.
IOW - 'ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!'
From what I can see so far, Judge Sotomayor is "clean" and minimally qualified at least. Pre-Bork that would have been enough to assure confirmation. Personally, were I a Senator, I would probably vote FOR confirmation on that basis, reserving a minute or two for a statement to that effect. My choice would have been Janice Rogers Brown. Perhaps she will be the choice of the NEXT President.
-S-
I wouldn't vote for Sotomayor at all. Her comments about judicial activism and race are unacceptable.
| 536 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 7:06:38am |
re: #508 MandyManners
My outrage meter is in the shop for adjustments so I can't feel it. Anyways, the GOP just doesn't have the votes so it's probably going to be very difficult to block her.
| 537 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:06:55am |
| 538 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:07:03am |
re: #532 MandyManners
I wonder who'll retire next.
All of us Lizards should continue to pray for the good health of all SCOTUS Justices...especially Chief Justice Roberts and Associate Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Kennedy.
| 539 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:07:16am |
re: #529 _RememberTonyC
Sotomayor will be confirmed, short of a scandal that forces her to withdraw. Deal with it folks. But use it to help gain an advantage for next time. If she has flaws, air all of them out in a dispassionate way. Force your opponents to defend the indefensible. Make them squirm. This is a chess game, not a "one and out" game.
She's in ... but be smart Senator Sessions!
Given the performance of 0's vetting team there is still a very good chance of said scandal coming to light. But the 2nd choice might be even worse. Justice Napolitano or Justice Deval Patrick. Or maybe Justice Michelle Obama.
| 540 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:07:19am |
re: #517 soxfan4life
They're just words. When 0bama says words don't matter this is what the right needs to bring up.
For an attorney, FCBBHO seems to have a lack of understanding about the power of language.
| 541 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:07:42am |
re: #535 MandyManners
I wouldn't vote for Sotomayor at all. Her comments about judicial activism and race are unacceptable.
You're just incapable of understanding her comments, because you're not Latina.
/
| 542 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:07:53am |
re: #532 MandyManners
I wonder who'll retire next.
My monies on Ginsburg. I don't envision any of the conservatives retiring in the next 4 years 9wishful thinking perhaps) so come 2012 the balance should be the same as now
| 543 |
JustMyView Tue, May 26, 2009 7:08:10am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
Ummm... judges are supposed to be interpreting the law, based on the language thereof, legislative history, and precedent; not "making policy". You do get the distinction, right? They're supposed to be acting as neutral referees, not picking the winners.
Right, but in deciding cases, they are picking winners and, in doing so, they make policy in the sense that they determine whether the legislation in question is constitutional.
| 545 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:08:36am |
re: #522 JustMyView
But isn't that accurate in that appellate courts rule on the constitutionality of legislation?
I'll defer to OR's No. 528.
| 546 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:08:50am |
re: #520 Occasional Reader
Good morning.
The estimates for the Norks' nuke test still seem to vary wildly, from 1.5kt up to about 20kt. In any case, they certainly seem to be greeting Obama's outstretched hand with an uplifted middle finger (as are the mullahs). Time to Ranger up, Barry.
Someone else is waving the clenched fist around...
Iran dispatches six naval vessels to Gulf of Aden
The commander of Iran’s navy, Rear Admiral Habibolah Sayari, said today that Tehran has dispatched six naval vessels to the Gulf of Aden to combat Somali pirates, the Fars News Agency reports.
| 547 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:08:56am |
re: #542 sattv4u2
The one thing you can count on (party affiliation aside) is that the old folks in government tend to live longer.
As it were.
| 548 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:09:13am |
Hmm - it seems that Obama's apparent pick to replace Souter is generating some heat already this morning!
I'll just remind y'all of two things:
a) the Democratic Party Governs this Nation completely and whomever Obama picks is sure to win approval from the Senate and
b) Sotomayor seems well qualified for the postion, but according to what I've read is not a "consenus builder" (or at least wasn't on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals (covering mostly NYC) and if that's true, her influence on the SCOTUS is going to be minimal.
And let's not all forget that THE most Liberal (not LEFTIST - I don't think there are more than oh, 10 or 15 genuine liberals left in the country!) Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was chosen by Ike because, while he was Govenor and Attorney General of California, he was the most CONSERVATIVE individual out there. How someone has ruled and what they've said BEFORE they put on the robes of a justice of the SCOTUS is not necessarily indicative of how he or she will vote as a Justice of the Supreme Court.
| 550 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:09:25am |
re: #543 JustMyView
Right, but in deciding cases, they are picking winners and, in doing so, they make policy in the sense that they determine whether the legislation in question is constitutional.
You are, of course, twisting the meaning of "picking winners", and twisting the meaning of "making policy". But what else did we expect.
| 552 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:09:48am |
re: #540 MandyManners
For an attorney, FCBBHO seems to have a lack of understanding about the power of language.
Has he practiced any law, or did he receive his degree and go right into politics? I know he has had his name put on politically expedient cases, but has he argued any law in front of a judge?
| 553 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:10:00am |
re: #549 rightside
You know she'll have tax problems, that's a given.
and an illegal alien nanny/ housekeeper or two!
//
| 554 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:10:06am |
re: #536 Killgore Trout
My outrage meter is in the shop for adjustments so I can't feel it. Anyways, the GOP just doesn't have the votes so it's probably going to be very difficult to block her.
The only measure of comfort I can find is that she's replacing a liberal.
| 555 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:10:26am |
SCOTUS nominee was nailed by Judge Nep a couple of weeks ago.
He thinks she's a radical. Talked about her stance that
"Court is where policy is made"
This might be a rough ride. Not sure with the Dem's power right now.
| 556 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:10:28am |
re: #543 JustMyView
Right, but in deciding cases, they are picking winners and, in doing so, they make policy in the sense that they determine whether the legislation in question is constitutional.
But judges don't have the authority to re-write the law, or write law (can you say Roe v. Wade?). They rule it unconsitutional, tell the leg what's wrong and the leg gets to fix it, the executive signs off.
| 557 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:10:56am |
re: #554 MandyManners
The only measure of comfort I can find is that she's replacing a liberal.
correct,,, see my 542 ,,, come 2012 we'll be where we are right now
| 558 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:00am |
re: #553 sattv4u2
and an illegal alien nanny/ housekeeper or two!
//
Now that IS ironic, given she's Hispanic.
| 559 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:11am |
re: #538 Macker
All of us Lizards should continue to pray for the good health of all SCOTUS Justices...especially Chief Justice Roberts and Associate Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Kennedy.
Which asshole prayed for bad health of certain justices?
| 560 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:17am |
re: #552 soxfan4life
Has he practiced any law, or did he receive his degree and go right into politics? I know he has had his name put on politically expedient cases, but has he argued any law in front of a judge?
sfl .. ACORN ...
| 561 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:39am |
At least the nominee is actually a lawyer and a judge, I guess. For a while, Obama was sounding like he was going to nominate Oprah.
By the way, didn't you all love how he said that one of the qualifications he was looking for was "a common touch"? What a breathtakingly condescending statement. If Bush had said something like that, he'd have been excoriated by the press.
| 562 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:44am |
re: #541 Occasional Reader
You're just incapable of understanding her comments, because you're not Latina.
/
Well, I have a vagina but, I lack the ethnicity.
| 563 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:51am |
re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
SCOTUS nominee was nailed by Judge Nep a couple of weeks ago.
AIEEEEEE! Brain Bleach STAT!
| 564 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:11:53am |
re: #548 realwest
For example...Justice Souter?
| 565 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:12am |
re: #548 realwest
REAL! Check my #475...got a mystery needs solving.
| 566 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:19am |
re: #558 Macker
Now that IS ironic, given she's Hispanic.
But the irony would fly over many peoples heads. Especially 0's worshippers.
| 567 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:20am |
re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
SCOTUS nominee was nailed by Judge Nep a couple of weeks ago.
If by that you mean Judge Napolitano, I think we'd be better off going with a different source.
| 568 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:32am |
re: #563 Macker
Oh. I should generally pimf for misspellings and Macker.
/
| 569 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:35am |
re: #556 jcm
But judges don't have the authority to re-write the law, or write law (can you say Roe v. Wade?). They rule it unconsitutional, tell the leg what's wrong and the leg gets to fix it, the executive signs off.
US Government 101 class
| 570 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:40am |
re: #539 soxfan4life
Given the performance of 0's vetting team there is still a very good chance of said scandal coming to light. But the 2nd choice might be even worse. Justice Napolitano or Justice Deval Patrick. Or maybe Justice Michelle Obama.
WAB on SCOTUS? Too many acronyms to absorb
| 571 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:12:59am |
re: #562 MandyManners
I trace my heritage to a former Spanish colony, I should at least be able to understand a bit.
/
| 572 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:13:07am |
re: #559 MandyManners
Which asshole prayed for bad health of certain justices?
Pat Robertson comes to mind....
| 573 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:13:19am |
re: #558 Macker
Now that IS ironic, given she's Hispanic.
She'll turn out to have an illegal Norwegian nanny, dummy!
| 574 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:13:30am |
re: #567 Occasional Reader
I meant to type, "FWIW".
| 575 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:13:51am |
re: #570 _RememberTonyC
WAB on SCOTUS? Too many acronyms to absorb
The Senate ass kissing that would be done on that nomination would be revolting.
| 576 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:14:09am |
re: #552 soxfan4life
Has he practiced any law, or did he receive his degree and go right into politics? I know he has had his name put on politically expedient cases, but has he argued any law in front of a judge?
| 578 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 7:14:44am |
re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
SCOTUS nominee was nailed by Judge Nep a couple of weeks ago.
He thinks she's a radical. Talked about her stance that
"Court is where policy is made"This might be a rough ride. Not sure with the Dem's power right now.
The Dems can make the argument that she was originally nominated for the Federal bench by Bush 41, which she was.
| 579 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 7:14:50am |
re: #496 soxfan4life
The conservatives on the bench are Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts.
Kennedy is the swing vote - if he retires or leaves the court, that will change the ideological tide. Scalia and Thomas are getting up there in age, but Stevens and Ginsberg are in poor health and/or are older than the conservative members on the bench.
| 580 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:15:03am |
re: #561 Occasional Reader
At least the nominee is actually a lawyer and a judge, I guess. For a while, Obama was sounding like he was going to nominate Oprah.
By the way, didn't you all love how he said that one of the qualifications he was looking for was "a common touch"? What a breathtakingly condescending statement. If Bush had said something like that, he'd have been excoriated by the press.
OR ... EMPATHY ... empathy is what he is looking for ... empathy for a young pregnant girl ... he said it ... who cares about the law ... EMPATHY brother ... get with the program ! ...
| 581 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:15:16am |
re: #561 Occasional Reader
At least the nominee is actually a lawyer and a judge, I guess. For a while, Obama was sounding like he was going to nominate Oprah.
By the way, didn't you all love how he said that one of the qualifications he was looking for was "a common touch"? What a breathtakingly condescending statement. If Bush had said something like that, he'd have been excoriated by the press.
Don't forget "empathy"!
| 583 |
nyc redneck Tue, May 26, 2009 7:15:47am |
re: #561 Occasional Reader
At least the nominee is actually a lawyer and a judge, I guess. For a while, Obama was sounding like he was going to nominate Oprah.
By the way, didn't you all love how he said that one of the qualifications he was looking for was "a common touch"? What a breathtakingly condescending statement. If Bush had said something like that, he'd have been excoriated by the press.
too bad as a former college law lecturer in constitutional law, no less, o seems to have no idea that a solid back ground in CONSTITUTIONAL law, might be more important for a scotus nominee than "a common touch".
o is a hack.
| 584 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:15:54am |
re: #525 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - it was warm, humid and rainy here (just like today,through Friday of this week are supposed to be!) other wise just fine.
I did finally get a comment in the top ten comments list yesterday, but although there are others on from the same thread, with lower "scores" mine seems to have disappeared!
Glad I didn't have to log on today or I mighta been a tad nervous cause I'd miss you guys a lot if I were to be ban
| 585 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:16:08am |
| 586 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:16:34am |
re: #579 lawhawk
I believe that Scalia and Thomas would abide by the Thurgood Marshall rule... (paraphrasing) "If I die, prop me up in my chair until a favorable president comes along."
| 587 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:16:40am |
re: #569 sattv4u2
US Government 101 class
Which is no longer taught, since even a lot of judges don't get it. FCBBHO certainly doesn't.
| 588 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 7:17:17am |
More evidence of confiscatory taxes driving the rich from states like the peoples republic of maryland.
| 589 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:17:24am |
re: #580 JacksonTn
OR ... EMPATHY ... empathy is what he is looking for ... empathy for a young pregnant girl ... he said it ... who cares about the law ... EMPATHY brother ... get with the program ! ...
That, too. Hey, I've just figured out the perfect SCOTUS nominee for Obama! Plus, she gets vagina points.
(Blame Mandy for bringing up the v-word, not me.)
| 590 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 26, 2009 7:17:52am |
re: #548 realwest
. . .
And let's not all forget that THE most Liberal (not LEFTIST - I don't think there are more than oh, 10 or 15 genuine liberals left in the country!) Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was chosen by Ike because, while he was Govenor and Attorney General of California, he was the most CONSERVATIVE individual out there. How someone has ruled and what they've said BEFORE they put on the robes of a justice of the SCOTUS is not necessarily indicative of how he or she will vote as a Justice of the Supreme Court.
True, but it does seem to be very rare that they become more conservative once on the Supreme Court. The trend seems to be they become more liberal.
| 591 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:18:34am |
re: #582 sattv4u2
Obama "introducing" her now on TV
,",, experience ,,,common touch ,,,, overcomes tough times,,,,"
Obama has pronounced her last name differently 3 times now
| 592 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, May 26, 2009 7:18:40am |
re: #575 soxfan4life
The Senate ass kissing that would be done on that nomination would be revolting.
off the charts
| 593 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:18:40am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
Ummm... judges are supposed to be interpreting the law, based on the language thereof, legislative history, and precedent; not "making policy". You do get the distinction, right? They're supposed to be acting as neutral referees, not picking the winners.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! whew, you really had me going there until I read you're "are supposed to be"! Whew. LOL!
Uh, and good morning O.R. - I'd rather have Adrianna Lima too!
| 594 |
Salamantis Tue, May 26, 2009 7:19:03am |
I am also going to post this link in the spinoffs; it clearly demonstrates what the repressive socon sexual agenda is costing us in regard to our other freedoms:
How Sex Sells the Loss of Freedom
[Link: chicagoboyz.net...]
It would well behoove us to jettison that reactionary puritanical albatross; in its absence, the conservatives win on the freedom front, hands down!
| 595 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:19:15am |
Boy, she looks young. Can sit for a looooooooong time.
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, May 26, 2009 7:19:17am |
Though apparently Sotomayor has been in line for this appointment since election day, it is this line
"Court is where policy is made"
that cinched it for her. How could Øbama resist such activism in his judge?
| 597 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:19:25am |
re: #589 Occasional Reader
That, too. Hey, I've just figured out the perfect SCOTUS nominee for Obama! Plus, she gets vagina points.
(Blame Mandy for bringing up the v-word, not me.)
LOL! I doubt FCBBHO would count her as a minority since Greeks are European.
| 598 |
loup-garou Tue, May 26, 2009 7:19:40am |
Former al Qaeda suspect Moazzam Begg is consultant on Rendition: Guantanamo game:
[Link: www.gamepolitics.com...]
| 599 |
Lincolntf Tue, May 26, 2009 7:20:21am |
re: #578 Ward Cleaver
It's not really an "argument" though. As I understand it, Presidents appoint many Judges in the course of their terms. Some get 'held up" because of political maneuvering/flaws in the candidate, but the majority are just being promoted to fill a slot. I don't think that the appointing President does nearly as much research into appellate Court appointments. Even if they did, the pool of even minimally qualified Judges is going to be diverse in ideology.
Besides, Bush I appointing her is a blow to the notion that all Presidents seek to impose their political views on the Judiciary.
| 600 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:20:26am |
re: #595 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Boy, she looks young. Can sit for a looooooooong time.
botox and tucks ,, botox and tucks
just sayin !
//
| 601 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:20:40am |
re: #593 realwest
Ha, ha, ha, ha! whew, you really had me going there until I read you're "are supposed to be"! Whew. LOL!
Uh, and good morning O.R. - I'd rather have Adrianna Lima too!
I'll bet you would. You can start looking for her over yonder, in the penumbras and emanations.
| 602 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 7:20:41am |
re: #586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I believe that Scalia and Thomas would abide by the Thurgood Marshall rule... (paraphrasing) "If I die, prop me up in my chair until a favorable president comes along."
That's the rule that Ginsberg and Stevens are following as well - I seem to recall both making statements in that regard based on their dislike of President Bush.
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realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:20:53am |
re: #539 soxfan4life
Or maybe, gulp, Justice Hillary Clinton!
Gah, I just made myself sick!
| 604 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:21:20am |
re: #589 Occasional Reader
How come she never has a hair out of place, even when there's heavy damage to the bridge of the USS Enterprise-D?
Must be her Cosmic Cheerleader outfit!
| 605 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:21:30am |
re: #602 lawhawk
That's the rule that Ginsberg and Stevens are following as well - I seem to recall both making statements in that regard based on their dislike of President Bush.
Very unprofessional
| 607 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:21:48am |
re: #602 lawhawk
That's the rule that Ginsberg and Stevens are following as well - I seem to recall both making statements in that regard based on their dislike of President Bush.
Correct. I recalll there was speculation of Ginsberg retiring if bush had lost in 2004
| 608 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:21:53am |
| 609 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:22:32am |
re: #594 Salamantis
I am also going to post this link in the spinoffs; it clearly demonstrates what the repressive socon sexual agenda is costing us in regard to our other freedoms:
How Sex Sells the Loss of Freedom
[Link: chicagoboyz.net...]It would well behoove us to jettison that reactionary puritanical albatross; in its absence, the conservatives win on the freedom front, hands down!
Reject puritanism, run on Liberty. Freedom plus responsibility.
| 610 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:22:51am |
I can't watch him and his so I am watching "The Last Days of WW2". Let me know of anything interesting.
| 611 |
nyc redneck Tue, May 26, 2009 7:22:57am |
re: #591 sattv4u2
,",, experience ,,,common touch ,,,, overcomes tough times,,,,"
Obama has pronounced her last name differently 3 times now
narcissists never know how to pronounce other people's names.
in fact they often don't even remember other's people's names.
| 612 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:23:19am |
re: #604 Macker
Okay, for a moment there I thought OR posted Uhuru.
| 613 |
VioletTiger Tue, May 26, 2009 7:23:28am |
| 614 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:23:31am |
re: #607 sattv4u2
Correct. I recalll there was speculation of Ginsberg retiring if bush had lost in 2004
So what the frak is she waiting for!
| 615 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:23:44am |
I just heard 0 make a comment on her being a yankee fan, now I have to retract the statement I made earlier. I would rather be mute than be in agreement with 0bama.
| 616 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:23:53am |
re: #546 jcm Morning jcm!
I wouldn't worry about Iran's navy - I mean, seriously, how much damage can 5 rubber boats and one old WWI USSR destroyer do?
| 617 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 26, 2009 7:23:55am |
re: #594 Salamantis
I am also going to post this link in the spinoffs; it clearly demonstrates what the repressive socon sexual agenda is costing us in regard to our other freedoms:
How Sex Sells the Loss of Freedom
[Link: chicagoboyz.net...]It would well behoove us to jettison that reactionary puritanical albatross; in its absence, the conservatives win on the freedom front, hands down!
Very interesting article.
| 618 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:24:01am |
| 619 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, May 26, 2009 7:24:02am |
re: #594 Salamantis
I am also going to post this link in the spinoffs; it clearly demonstrates what the repressive socon sexual agenda is costing us in regard to our other freedoms:
How Sex Sells the Loss of Freedom
[Link: chicagoboyz.net...]It would well behoove us to jettison that reactionary puritanical albatross; in its absence, the conservatives win on the freedom front, hands down!
No where in the article do they validate where they got the stats for the chart. Without that, it's a weak point, not proven.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 7:24:10am |
re: #602 lawhawk
That's the rule that Ginsberg and Stevens are following as well - I seem to recall both making statements in that regard based on their dislike of President Bush.
Wasn't Marshall demonstrably senile in his last years on the bench?
| 622 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 7:24:40am |
| 623 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:24:42am |
Justice Thurgood Marshall reportedly told one of his law clerks during the Reagan administration that "if I die while that man's president, I want you to just prop me up and keep me voting."
Seriously, Obama is enjoying this announcement.
Reeeeeeally enjoying this announcement.
| 625 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:25:20am |
The Senior Chief in my Unit is a Fireman in CT. We have spoken about the Law suit now before the Supreme Court that should overturn this Gals Ruling. I'm waiting for an E-Mail from him about something else, I can't wait to hear his reaction.
| 626 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:26:24am |
re: #615 soxfan4life
I just heard 0 make a comment on her being a yankee fan, now I have to retract the statement I made earlier. I would rather be mute than be in agreement with 0bama.
Shit I was only Joking. Another nail in our coffin.
| 627 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:26:27am |
Fuck him and his asking for bi-partisanship. Why won't the repubs bring up his absolute lack of bi-partisanship during his brief tenure in the Senate?
| 628 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:26:46am |
re: #623 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Seriously, Obama is enjoying this announcement.
Reeeeeeally enjoying this announcement.
As should (would) any sitting President. A Supreme Court Justice could have lasting affects on the country far beyond what that President can during his limited time there
| 629 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:27:04am |
re: #610 Nevergiveup
I can't watch him and his so I am watching "The Last Days of WW2". Let me know of anything interesting.
SPOILER: We won.
| 630 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:27:08am |
re: #616 realwest
Morning jcm!
I wouldn't worry about Iran's navy - I mean, seriously, how much damage can 5 rubber boats and one old WWI USSR destroyer do?
Not even an appetizer.
Iran's navy's capabilities are suddenly much better in the last 5 months.... Something changed, I hope I can think of what that is.
| 631 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:27:12am |
re: #564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
For example...Justice Souter?
Uh, no. Chief Justice Earl Warren who led what most legal scholars believe to have been the most liberal and activist Supreme Court ever.
| 632 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:27:25am |
re: #623 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Seriously, Obama is enjoying this announcement.
Reeeeeeally enjoying this announcement.
FBV ... is he talking in front of a camera? ... that is all he ever needs ... I WON! ... he should have just gone into rap music ... videos galore ... you know ... kinda like the one that launched his friggin campaign ...
I Got A Crush On Obama ... puke ...
| 633 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 7:28:35am |
re: #631 realwest
Uh, no. Chief Justice Earl Warren who led what most legal scholars believe to have been the most liberal and activist Supreme Court ever.
Eisenhower's nightmare.
| 634 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:28:44am |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 26, 2009 7:29:02am |
Drive by comment--
Let's see--why would Obama think that someone should receive a seat on SCOTUS because of their racial identity and gripping biography, rather than qualifications, experience, and brilliant legal decisions?
Hmmm...why, why, why?
| 636 |
FrogMarch Tue, May 26, 2009 7:29:29am |
It's no surprise Obama picked someone from the feel-based left. Still, her statements are a bit troubling. But alas, nothing new under the left-wing sun.
I am not yet sure what position to take on President Obama's selection of Sonia Sotomayor. My general sense is that she is very liberal, and thus likely to take what I consider to be mistaken positions on many major constitutional law issues. I am also not favorably impressed with her notorious statement that "a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." Not only is it objectionable in and of itself, it also suggests that Sotomayor is a committed believer in the identity politics school of left-wing thought. Worse, it implies that she believes that it is legitimate for judges to base decisions in part based on their ethnic or racial origins. Stuart Taylor's comments on Sotomayor's speech are telling:
Any prominent white male would be instantly and properly banished from polite society as a racist and a sexist for making an analogous claim of ethnic and gender superiority or inferiority.
Imagine the reaction if someone had unearthed in 2005 a speech in which then-Judge Samuel Alito had asserted, for example: "I would hope that a white male with the richness of his traditional American values would reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life" -- and had proceeded to speak of "inherent physiological or cultural differences."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 7:29:50am |
re: #631 realwest
Oh, I know, I was only referring to your last sentence. Souter did not end up to be what he was expected to be.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:29:57am |
re: #633 Ward Cleaver
Eisenhower's nightmare.
This whole nightmare is Bush 1's fault for nominating Souter in the First place.
| 639 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:30:56am |
re: #634 realwest
I remember there was the usual media storm when Roberts was picked...but that seemed to die out in the days before he was nominated. Something to do with ambiguity and confusion.
| 640 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:31:39am |
re: #639 lazardo
I remember there was the usual media storm when Roberts was picked...but that seemed to die out in the days before he was nominated. Something to do with ambiguity and confusion.
No dirt......
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Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:31:50am |
re: #632 JacksonTn
FBV ... is he talking in front of a camera? ... that is all he ever needs ... I WON! ... he should have just gone into rap music ... videos galore ... you know ... kinda like the one that launched his friggin campaign ...
I Got A Crush On Obama ... puke ...
Hmm...I don't think even I could envision The Won™ rapping and repeating the following lyrics: "Motherfucker...Cocksucker" over and over and over again.
| 642 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:31:52am |
re: #578 Ward Cleaver
Ah, yeah, but there's a looong way between being a Federal District court judge and a Justice of the Supreme Court.
In spite of what some of y'all think, I don't think Justice Sotomayer would have much impact on the SCOTUS.
| 643 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:32:39am |
re: #638 Nevergiveup
At least he balanced it out with Thomas.
| 644 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:33:30am |
re: #643 Macker
At least he balanced it out with Thomas.
I wish he'd bumped Thomas to Chief and brought Roberts on as an Assoc.
| 645 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:33:56am |
re: #643 Macker
At least he balanced it out with Thomas.
Still if he hadn't screwed that one up, things would be different today.
| 646 |
JustMyView Tue, May 26, 2009 7:34:12am |
re: #573 Occasional Reader
She'll turn out to have an illegal Norwegian nanny, dummy!
Since she has no children, it would be surprising if she had a nanny of any nationality.
| 647 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:34:22am |
re: #644 jcm
I wish he'd bumped Thomas to Chief and brought Roberts on as an Assoc.
And go thru the whole coke bottle thing again?
| 648 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:34:55am |
re: #646 JustMyView
That would make her elitist, for having SERVANTS.
| 650 |
VioletTiger Tue, May 26, 2009 7:35:03am |
This clip from the Fox Newsarticle on Sotomayor explains my problems with her nomination:
As an appellate judge, she sided with the city of New Haven, Conn., in a discrimination case brought by white firefighters after the city threw out results of a promotion exam because two few minorities scored high enough. Ironically, that case is now before the Supreme Court.
A YouTube video of Sotomayor speaking at Duke University about what some interpreted as judicial activism also stirred controversy.
In the video, she said: "All of the legal defense funds out there, they're looking for people with court of appeals experience" because "the court of appeals is where policy is made."
So, Ms. Sotomayor thinks discrimination is okay, as long it is discrimination against non-minorities. Sorry, discrimination is wrong in either direction. She also thinks she can write policy from the bench. I want to see judges who will interpret the law, not attempt to write it. I don't care if she is replacing another liberal judge, I think she is radical and a poor pick for SCOTUS.
| 651 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, May 26, 2009 7:35:13am |
Sorry I didn't get this up yesterday, but this is a beautiful video my wife found called "The Man in the Doorway" about door-gunners in Vietnam. Her dad did two tours as a gunner and this is a great tribute to him and all of you here who served in these tough jobs for all of us. Thank you.
| 652 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 7:35:35am |
re: #640 jcm
I also recall him ending up a bit...centrist. IIRC anyway.
| 653 |
Salamantis Tue, May 26, 2009 7:35:37am |
I would have preferred Elena Kagan, former dean of Harvard Law School. Although liberal, she actually received letters of endorsement from Ken Starr and Ted Olson.
| 654 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:36:07am |
re: #647 Nevergiveup
And go thru the whole coke bottle thing again?
Worthwhile.... Thomas is the best on SCOTUS.
| 655 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:36:12am |
| 656 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:37:23am |
re: #655 Nevergiveup
Meygen Kelly for
the Supreme Courtmy neighbor on a deserted island
| 657 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 7:37:25am |
re: #642 realwest
Ah, yeah, but there's a looong way between being a Federal District court judge and a Justice of the Supreme Court.
In spite of what some of y'all think, I don't think Justice Sotomayer would have much impact on the SCOTUS.
Since he's replacing one liberal with another, I don't think it would either.
| 658 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:37:31am |
re: #653 Salamantis
I would have preferred Elena Kagan, former dean of Harvard Law School. Although liberal, she actually received letters of endorsement from Ken Starr and Ted Olson.
To qualified. This Administration is made up of neophytes and never beens after all?
| 659 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:38:27am |
re: #657 Ward Cleaver
Since he's replacing one liberal with another, I don't think it would either.
Correct, as I stated upthread. This, and when Ginsgurg retires (I beleive she'll be next) will do nothing but make the court in 2012 as it is now
| 660 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:38:36am |
re: #656 sattv4u2
I could make a comment about pregnant chics but I will not. Not yet at least.
| 661 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 7:39:18am |
re: #608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
She ruled against a high school student's right to free speech based on statements made off school grounds - claiming that it was acceptable for the school to limit speech based on proper respect for authority. That's a bad decision, and undermines the right to free speech.
Other decisions of interest include upholding warrantless searches for ferry users to thwart terrorism.
| 662 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 7:39:21am |
re: #655 Nevergiveup
I'll take Kimberly Guilfoyle for $1000 Alex.
| 663 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:40:16am |
re: #627 soxfan4life
HEY! Take it easy there! Don't forget that he ran against MR. BIPARTISANSHIP in November and WON.
Why should he change now - other than the fact that he wants some Republcans to find for use as cover when shit blows up in his face, I mean.
| 664 |
JustMyView Tue, May 26, 2009 7:40:21am |
re: #658 Nevergiveup
To qualified. This Administration is made up of neophytes and never beens after all?
Actually, Kagan is part of this administration. She is the Solicitor General of the United States.
| 665 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:41:14am |
re: #646 JustMyView
Since she has no children, it would be surprising if she had a nanny of any nationality.
2 or 3 Mexican or Brazillian housekeepers wouldn't be beyond reality. Certainly you wouldn't expect such a person to do domestic chores themself.
| 666 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 7:42:38am |
re: #664 JustMyView
Actually, Kagan is part of this administration. She is the Solicitor General of the United States.
She's the solicitor general nominee. So, technically, no.
| 668 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 7:43:38am |
re: #661 lawhawk
She ruled against a high school student's right to free speech based on statements made off school grounds - claiming that it was acceptable for the school to limit speech based on proper respect for authority. That's a bad decision, and undermines the right to free speech.
Other decisions of interest include upholding warrantless searches for ferry users to thwart terrorism.
She wants "proper respect for authority".
Fascist leftist.
"Lack of respect. Failure to obey authority.
The Farm, immediately."
(Anyone else remember this movie? It's by a novella by Harlan Ellison)
| 669 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 7:44:04am |
re: #661 lawhawk
She ruled against a high school student's right to free speech based on statements made off school grounds - claiming that it was acceptable for the school to limit speech based on proper respect for authority. That's a bad decision, and undermines the right to free speech.
Other decisions of interest include upholding warrantless searches for ferry users to thwart terrorism.
All over the map.
| 670 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:44:19am |
re: #639 lazardo
More likely something to do with his unquestionable legal mind and qualifications as a jurist.
| 671 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 7:46:03am |
I can't say I'm overly fond of the choice of Sotomayor for SCOTUS. To me, she sounds like a sexist and a racist. As for being the first Hispanic, have not others on the SCOTUS had some sort of Hispanic roots in the past?
| 672 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:46:12am |
re: #667 lawhawk
It would be very interesting to see what would happen if Ricci vs. Destefano came in front of the Supreme Court.
| 673 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 7:48:27am |
re: #668 Kosh's Shadow
She wants "proper respect for authority".
Fascist leftist."Lack of respect. Failure to obey authority.
The Farm, immediately."
(Anyone else remember this movie? It's by a novella by Harlan Ellison)
What was its name?
| 674 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:48:49am |
re: #661 lawhawk
*GASP* Do you mean she's one of those awful Conservatives in diguise?!
/
| 675 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:49:08am |
re: #672 soxfan4life
It would be very interesting to see what would happen if Ricci vs. Destefano came in front of the Supreme Court.
It is before the Court.
| 676 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 7:49:09am |
Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell issues this statement
“Senate Republicans will treat Judge Sotomayor fairly. But we will thoroughly examine her record to ensure she understands that the role of a jurist in our democracy is to apply the law even-handedly, despite their own feelings or personal or political preferences.
“Our Democratic colleagues have often remarked that the Senate is not a ‘rubber stamp.’ Accordingly, we trust they will ensure there is adequate time to prepare for this nomination, and a full and fair opportunity to question the nominee and debate her qualifications.”
| 677 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:49:18am |
re: #661 lawhawk
She ruled against a high school student's right to free speech based on statements made off school grounds - claiming that it was acceptable for the school to limit speech based on proper respect for authority. That's a bad decision, and undermines the right to free speech.
Other decisions of interest include upholding warrantless searches for ferry users to thwart terrorism.
She has spoken often of how her early poverty and Hispanic heritage have shaped her views.
The Constitution? The Rule of Law?
Those have in part of shaping her views?
| 678 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 7:50:00am |
Good morning all, any fruit cup left?
(looks around)
Um, perhaps Charles should start a new thread for the SCOTUS nommie.
| 679 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:50:09am |
re: #677 jcm
She has spoken often of how her early poverty and Hispanic heritage have shaped her views.
The Constitution? The Rule of Law?
Those have in part of shaping her views?
Her refrigerator tilts to the left and she uses the constitution to prop it up?
| 680 |
Elcid Tue, May 26, 2009 7:50:15am |
re: #671 Honorary Yooper
I can't say I'm overly fond of the choice of Sotomayor for SCOTUS. To me, she sounds like a sexist and a racist. As for being the first Hispanic, have not others on the SCOTUS had some sort of Hispanic roots in the past?
If confirmed, Sotomayor would be the Supreme Court’s first ever female Hispanic justice (Benjamin N. Cardozo being the first Hispanic Supreme Court Justice ever).
| 681 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 7:51:20am |
re: #673 Dark_Falcon
What was its name?
A Boy and His Dog
Believe me, parts of this movie are in bad taste.
And I got the quote wrong, serves me right for not checking IMDB:
Lou: Lack of respect, wrong attitude, failure to obey authority.
BTW, I heard it was unavailable because Don Johnson was disgusted by it (he was young when he made it), but Amazon has it. I'll be ordering it.
| 682 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:51:23am |
re: #672 soxfan4life
I'd think she'd recuse herself on that one and on any other cases that came before her while she was on the bench.
| 683 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 7:51:25am |
re: #679 Nevergiveup
Her refrigerator tilts to the left and she uses the constitution to prop it up?
The refer was level.... she used the Constitution to tilt it to the left.
;-P
| 684 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:51:57am |
re: #682 realwest
I'd think she'd recuse herself on that one and on any other cases that came before her while she was on the bench.
You'd think?
| 685 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:52:07am |
re: #678 NelsFree
Good morning all, any fruit cup left?
(looks around)
Um, perhaps Charles should start a new thread for the SCOTUS nommie.
I'm sure he will once he awakens and researches
| 686 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 7:52:39am |
re: #675 Nevergiveup
It is before the Court.
Do you think they will rule on it before she is seated, and will her nomination have any impact on their decision?
| 688 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:53:04am |
re: #683 jcm
The refer was level.... she used the Constitution to tilt it to the left.
;-P
What's a little spilled milk when your addressing 200 years of persecution after all?
| 689 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:53:05am |
| 690 |
KenJen Tue, May 26, 2009 7:54:02am |
Good morning Lizards. Back from vacation. Boy did I pick a great week to spend in Florida.///
| 691 |
UFO TOFU Tue, May 26, 2009 7:54:02am |
| 692 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 7:54:10am |
| 693 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:54:17am |
re: #686 soxfan4life
Do you think they will rule on it before she is seated, and will her nomination have any impact on their decision?
I have no idea? Hey any constitutional lawyers here?
| 694 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 7:54:19am |
re: #680 Elcid
Stop playing race politics. Res ipsa loquitor. It speaks for itself - as Cardozo would be fond of saying (besides, he's considered the first Jew on the Court, the Hispanic thing wasn't a big deal).
BTW, her reasoning in Tasini should make for interesting discussion. Her decision in that IP case was reversed by the Court of Appeals (2d Circuit), and the US Supreme Court ruled 7-2 affirming the Ct. of Appeals. Ginsberg wrote the majority opinion in that case, with Stevens and Breyer taking Sotomayor's approach.
She's indeed all over the map.
| 696 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:55:12am |
re: #691 UFO TOFU
For what?
I haven't tracked that down yet, just scanning comments on threads posted over the weekend. I'll go see ..
| 697 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 7:55:14am |
I couldn't care less about the race, ethnicity or gender of supreme court nominees. However I'm very concerned about this.....
pygmy jerboa
| 698 |
Noam Chumpski Tue, May 26, 2009 7:55:15am |
Quick question:
A group called something like Life and Liberty.org(?) is running Obama birth certificate ads here on the Atlanta AM radio market and some billboards are popping up.
In short, these birth cert "truthers" are getting enough money now to start placing billboards and running ads.
Jesus, help us...
Does anyone know if this is happening nationwide or just in Atlanta? I'm curious.
| 701 |
unrealizedviewpoint Tue, May 26, 2009 7:55:46am |
| 702 |
JustMyView Tue, May 26, 2009 7:56:06am |
| 703 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:56:57am |
| 704 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:57:01am |
re: #695 Iron Fist
Ginsberg has been ill for about the last decade. I don't know that she'll retire, though. She may decide to die with her boots on the way Renquist did. I don't know if Obama can find anybody worse thanGinsberg, but I expect that he will try.
They're certaianly out there.
| 705 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 7:57:03am |
re: #680 Elcid
If confirmed, Sotomayor would be the Supreme Court’s first ever female Hispanic justice (Benjamin N. Cardozo being the first Hispanic Supreme Court Justice ever).
So, in other words, the MSM is hyperventillating again. They're pushing her as the first, when the only thing that makes her different fromt Mr. Cardozo is that she's female, and the only thing that makes her different from Ms. O'Connor is that she has ancestry from the Iberian Peninsula.
Not very remarkable, IMHO, as I've never really understood why "Hispanic" or "Latino" is considered separate from "White" or "Black".
| 706 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:57:04am |
re: #701 unrealizedviewpoint
Being Cognito.
What thread? And I can't say I'm disappointed. He really got under my skin.
| 707 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:58:05am |
re: #695 Iron Fist
Ginsberg has been ill for about the last decade. I don't know that she'll retire, though. She may decide to die with her boots on the way Renquist did. I don't know if Obama can find anybody worse thanGinsberg, but I expect that he will try.
Her latest illness is pancreatic illness which has a much smaller survival rate than colorectal cancer. However, thanks to her excellent health insurance, doctors found it early.
| 708 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 7:58:12am |
re: #697 Killgore Trout
I couldn't care less about the race, ethnicity or gender of supreme court nominees. However I'm very concerned about this.....
pygmy jerboa[Video]
KT ... looks like something I have trapped with peanut butter and a glue trap ... after it was stuck on it for a couple of days ... that is not cute at all ... and what the hell was it ...
| 709 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 7:58:40am |
re: #700 Killgore Trout
What did he do?
Played fast and loose with "word games", as it were
"thats not what I said even though I said it'' and implying that Charles said things by inference that he didn;t, that type of stuff. Charles called him on it and finally had enough of Cogs' parsing
| 710 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:58:55am |
17:13 PA negotiator: `Natural growth` and all settlement activities must end (AP
Well we Jews will stop having sex when you Arabs stop. How about them eggs?
| 711 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 7:58:56am |
re: #698 Noam Chumpski
Quick question:
A group called something like Life and Liberty.org(?) is running Obama birth certificate ads here on the Atlanta AM radio market and some billboards are popping up.In short, these birth cert "truthers" are getting enough money now to start placing billboards and running ads.
Jesus, help us...
Does anyone know if this is happening nationwide or just in Atlanta? I'm curious.
Charles has a recent thread about this.
| 712 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 7:59:07am |
re: #703 turn
ha, he argued Charles was a Creationist.
Well, he created Little Green Footballs, ddi he not?
| 713 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 7:59:07am |
re: #708 JacksonTn
Looks like some sort of rodent.
| 715 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 7:59:30am |
re: #677 jcm Hey my friend. It's frankly unthinking to believe that WHO a person is (and that is largely shaped by their own real world experiences) won't affect their judgment in whatever job(s) they obtain.
And while she has actually said somethings about policy and minorities, that doesn't make her any less biased than current Justices, except they were smart enough not to make their prejudices public before they got on the SCOTUS. Every single Justice on SCOTUS makes decsions at least in part because of who they are and what life experiences they bring to the table.
| 716 |
Russkilitlover Tue, May 26, 2009 7:59:52am |
Cognito gone? Too bad. I'll miss his comments. Not to mention the Teddy bear.
| 717 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 7:59:58am |
re: #709 sattv4u2
Played fast and loose with "word games", as it were
"thats not what I said even though I said it'' and implying that Charles said things by inference that he didn;t, that type of stuff. Charles called him on it and finally had enough of Cogs' parsing
He did that with every position he took. What an annoying ass.
| 718 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:00:09am |
re: #705 Honorary Yooper
Not very remarkable, IMHO, as I've never really understood why "Hispanic" or "Latino" is considered separate from "White" or "Black".
It is a sort of odd "ethnicity" that includes (putatively) Nuhuatl-speaking Mayans-descended people from Mexico, and blue-eyed, German-surnamed people from Argentina.
| 719 |
lazardo Tue, May 26, 2009 8:00:10am |
re: #712 Macker
Well, he created Little Green Footballs, ddi he not?
He intelligently designed it. It evolved over the years though.
We need to take this debate to the Supreme Court.
/ q;
| 720 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:00:27am |
| 721 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 8:00:36am |
re: #703 turn
ha, he argued Charles was a Creationist.
WTF!?! Cog took his contrarianism way too far. What a maroon.
| 722 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 8:00:52am |
re: #692 Kosh's Shadow
For what?
For being snarky with Charles. I warned him that baiting Charles wasn't smart, but he would not listen.
| 724 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:15am |
re: #716 Russkilitlover
Cognito gone? Too bad. I'll miss his comments. Not to mention the Teddy bear.
Google Vermont Teddy Bears and get over it.
/
| 726 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:25am |
| 727 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:31am |
Cognito's downfall begins at #247 in this thread.
| 728 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:32am |
Cog ,, the ultimate "victim'. I'm sure he'll be a hit in the stalker blogs!
| 729 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:36am |
re: #681 Kosh's Shadow
BTW, I heard it was unavailable because Don Johnson was disgusted by it (he was young when he made it), but Amazon has it. I'll be ordering it.
I recorded it on VHS off of cable, years ago. I still have it.
| 730 |
Noam Chumpski Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:36am |
re: #711 MandyManners
Charles has a recent thread about this.
Oh, apologies - I've been absent from class a lot lately.
| 731 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:47am |
re: #715 realwest
Hey my friend. It's frankly unthinking to believe that WHO a person is (and that is largely shaped by their own real world experiences) won't affect their judgment in whatever job(s) they obtain.
And while she has actually said somethings about policy and minorities, that doesn't make her any less biased than current Justices, except they were smart enough not to make their prejudices public before they got on the SCOTUS. Every single Justice on SCOTUS makes decsions at least in part because of who they are and what life experiences they bring to the table.
Excellent point. Of course we don't have robots on the bench, and to think they wouldn't use their own experiences in making decisions is ludicrous.
| 732 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:50am |
re: #712 Macker
Well, he created Little Green Footballs, ddi he not?
Yes he ddi. I didn't read all the comments but that guy would really annoy me too, always arguing.
| 733 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:01:51am |
| 734 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:02:01am |
re: #714 Iron Fist
I'd have loved that. I think thomas is the best Justice we have on the Court. I hope he lives another 100 years.
For those that haven't.
My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir
by Clarence Thomas
| 735 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 8:02:21am |
| 736 |
Russkilitlover Tue, May 26, 2009 8:02:56am |
re: #724 Nevergiveup
Google Vermont Teddy Bears and get over it.
/
LOL! That took me by surprise - it's too dang early in the work day for a loud bark of laughter!
| 737 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 8:03:17am |
re: #723 Macker
Hasn't Cognito been banned before?
Yes, which means he most likely will not be back. Although, I cannot see him be fully accepted AtS or at the stalker blog.
| 738 |
LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 8:03:36am |
re: #725 Occasional Reader
Nuhuatl = Nahuatl
Thank goodness you clarified that. I would have gone insane......insane do you hear me, trying to reconcile that spelling......
///
*I haven't the slightest idea of what either word means*
:)
| 739 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 8:04:53am |
re: #702 JustMyView
Technically, yes. She has been confirmed.
Well, leave it to the MSM to get it wrong. From an AP story I was reading this morning:
Others known to have been considered included federal appeals judge Diane Wood, who was a colleague of the president's at the University of Chicago Law School, as well as two members of his administration, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Solicitor General-nominee Elena Kagan.
| 740 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:05:03am |
re: #721 Honorary Yooper
WTF!?! Cog took his contrarianism way too far. What a maroon.
That's a perfect word to describe him. Morning yoop
| 741 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:05:05am |
re: #722 Dark_Falcon
For being snarky with Charles. I warned him that baiting Charles wasn't smart, but he would not listen.
With all the violence talk Charles was not happy over the weekend. That rule is quite clearly stated at the top of the page.
| 742 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:05:19am |
re: #692 Kosh's Shadow
Cognito had previously (some time ago) presented pro-Creationist talking points. then, Cognito in a very recent thread claimed never to have presented arguments which were pro-Creationist. Other posters linked to Cognito's (early) pro-Creationist talking points, etc., Cognito couldn't "explain" the discrepancies, etc.
| 743 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:05:34am |
| 744 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:05:45am |
| 746 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 8:06:36am |
re: #703 turn
ha, he argued Charles was a Creationist.
WTH? I never thought he'd say something as stupid as that.
| 747 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 8:06:50am |
re: #730 Noam Chumpski
Oh, apologies - I've been absent from class a lot lately.
See my No. 745, please. It's in the archives.
| 748 |
nyc redneck Tue, May 26, 2009 8:06:52am |
re: #677 jcm
She has spoken often of how her early poverty and Hispanic heritage have shaped her views.
The Constitution? The Rule of Law?
Those have in part of shaping her views?
people who lead w/ that "early poverty" angle and their " fill in the blank " heritage connection often have a BIG chip on their shoulder and consequently have a BIG problem w/ being objective.
look at o and everyone around him.
libs too often see the constitution as a restraint on (their feelings abt.) liberty not as a basic guarantee of liberty.
| 749 |
Elcid Tue, May 26, 2009 8:07:21am |
re: #705 Honorary Yooper
So, in other words, the MSM is hyperventillating again. They're pushing her as the first, when the only thing that makes her different fromt Mr. Cardozo is that she's female, and the only thing that makes her different from Ms. O'Connor is that she has ancestry from the Iberian Peninsula.
Not very remarkable, IMHO, as I've never really understood why "Hispanic" or "Latino" is considered separate from "White" or "Black".
Justice Cardozo was of Portuguese/Jewish descent (as lawhawk pointed out). In its rush to make EVERYTHING Obama does as ‘virginal’, MSNBC is wrong.
As to Sotomayor's words (paraphrasing) 'Latina, better then a white man', some Senator should ask, if the indigenious peoples of this part of the world (Inca's, Mayan's and Aztec's) would feel that way...:).
Just as a cute zinger, of course.
| 750 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:07:52am |
re: #723 Macker
Yes. But he was able to get back in, only to end up being banned...
| 751 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:08:11am |
re: #714 Iron Fist
I'd have loved that. I think thomas is the best Justice we have on the Court. I hope he lives another 100 years.
I have to preface my remarks by saying I'm not an expert on the SCOTUS. I do recall that Roberts demonstrated an impressive intellect; during the congressional review, he confounded some of the questioners with his very accurate, detailed answers. There was no tripping him up.
This is based on what I heard, mind you.
| 752 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:08:21am |
re: #731 soxfan4life
Yep, that's why I'm glad she's a NY Yankee fan!
/ducks to avoid incoming!
| 753 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 8:08:57am |
re: #718 Occasional Reader
It is a sort of odd "ethnicity" that includes (putatively) Nuhuatl-speaking Mayans-descended people from Mexico, and blue-eyed, German-surnamed people from Argentina.
Eichmann became a Nuhuazi?
| 754 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:08:58am |
re: #742 J.S.
Cognito had previously (some time ago) presented pro-Creationist talking points. then, Cognito in a very recent thread claimed never to have presented arguments which were pro-Creationist. Other posters linked to Cognito's (early) pro-Creationist talking points, etc., Cognito couldn't "explain" the discrepancies, etc.
Easily explained
"i'm Cognito"
| 755 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:09:03am |
re: #703 turn
ha, he argued Charles was a Creationist.
My wife's family all believe in the Creationist thing. I downloaded yesterdays How to Argue with a creationist audio and am leaving Thursday for a 4 day visit. Should prove quite interesting.
| 756 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 8:09:11am |
re: #746 Ward Cleaver
No, he didn't. I watched it. Like a train wreck in slo-mo. Then; BAM!
| 757 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:09:16am |
re: #748 nyc redneck
libs too often see the constitution as a restraint on (their feelings abt.) liberty not as a basic guarantee of liberty.
Obama said exactly that in his 2001 Chicago NPR interview.
| 758 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:10:36am |
re: #744 turn
Good morning turn! You'll have to excuse me while I go mourn Congitos loss.
Ah there, all better! LOL!
How are you doing today?
| 759 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:10:38am |
re: #757 jcm
Obama said exactly that in his 2001 Chicago NPR interview.
jcm ... that was so "yesterday" ... hey, have you seen how cool he looks in his shades? ...
/
| 761 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:10:44am |
re: #755 soxfan4life
My wife's family all believe in the Creationist thing. I downloaded yesterdays How to Argue with a creationist audio and am leaving Thursday for a 4 day visit. Should prove quite interesting.
My neighbor wes from tex is a creationist, our wives leave the room when we start on the subject. Have fun, ha
| 762 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:11:16am |
re: #759 JacksonTn
jcm ... that was so "yesterday" ... hey, have you seen how cool he looks in his shades? ...
/
Coffee on keyboard and monitor thanks..........
ROFL!
| 763 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:11:59am |
re: #752 realwest
Yep, that's why I'm glad she's a NY Yankee fan!
/ducks to avoid incoming!
It's not like any of the New England contingent in the Senate will remove their lips from 0's ass long enough to look into any of that. They will just rubberstamp anything he wants.
| 764 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:12:21am |
re: #758 realwest
Good morning turn! You'll have to excuse me while I go mourn Congitos loss.
Ah there, all better! LOL!
How are you doing today?
ha, that was quick. I'm fine but have been like totally out of the news all weekend. O is really being tested huh? norks, iran, etc.
| 766 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:13:24am |
re: #760 J.S.
yes. lol. He's now "incognito"...
LOL.
I hope he goes over to that stalker site and annoys the shit out of them.
| 767 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 8:13:24am |
re: #741 soxfan4life
With all the violence talk Charles was not happy over the weekend. That rule is quite clearly stated at the top of the page.
Violence talk? Geeze, what I miss on a long weekend. It also appears Cog got into a pissing match with Charles and forgot who owns the blog.
| 768 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:13:31am |
re: #764 turn
ha, that was quick. I'm fine but have been like totally out of the news all weekend. O is really being tested huh? norks, iran, etc.
He's desperately searching for strong enough rhetoric.
| 770 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 8:14:20am |
re: #766 turn
LOL.
I hope he goes over to that stalker site and annoys the shit out of them.
Cog may be the first person they ban. They recently started up registration for commenting there.
| 771 |
Salamantis Tue, May 26, 2009 8:14:37am |
Aww Gosh Darn! I was hoping that the Big O would make racial history by appointing the first ever Asian/Oriental to the Supreme Court...
I was actually salivating in anticipation of the judicial wisdom of Judge Ito!
///////////////////!
| 772 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:15:09am |
re: #768 soxfan4life
He's desperately searching for strong enough rhetoric.
Yes, working on that strongly worded resonse right now. I see that bomb was like way bigger than the last one - oh great.
| 773 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:15:32am |
re: #767 Honorary Yooper
Violence talk? Geeze, what I miss on a long weekend. It also appears Cog got into a pissing match with Charles and forgot who owns the blog.
He was close to giving ironfist the boot.And issued a very strongly worded warning about how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with the hammer.
| 775 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:16:19am |
re: #738 LGoPs
Thank goodness you clarified that. I would have gone insane......insane do you hear me, trying to reconcile that spelling......
///
*I haven't the slightest idea of what either word means*
:)
I was thinking Nutella:
[Link: www.nutellausa.com...]
/seriously, I saw the word and thought,"nutella!", just like that.
/h
| 776 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:16:51am |
re: #772 turn
Yes, working on that strongly worded resonse right now. I see that bomb was like way bigger than the last one - oh great.
Isn't the silence from the UN deafening?
| 777 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:17:28am |
re: #770 Honorary Yooper
Cog may be the first person they ban. They recently started up registration for commenting there.
really? I've been there like a whopping once. Charles really got upset last week, banning redstate and all. You can't blame him, I've never had death threats posted about me but they would undoubtedly bother me a great deal.
| 778 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:17:39am |
re: #765 Elcid
Hi Elcid! That's easy for you to say! Not spell correctly, perhaps, but say! LOL!
I've been trying to use spellcheck and Preview for almost every comment these days. Sometimes I feel like I'm chatting with old friends out here, and just type what I would orally say to them. The results, alas, are not pretty!
How are you doing today ?
| 780 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:18:36am |
re: #772 turn
Yes, working on that strongly worded resonse right now. I see that bomb was like way bigger than the last one - oh great.
First one was a fizzle, they're sorting things out. 10-15kt range means a very basic type bomb.
| 781 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:19:08am |
| 782 |
rightside Tue, May 26, 2009 8:19:26am |
re: #771 Salamantis
OMG remember Jay Leno had the "dancing Ito's" on during the OJ trial?
| 783 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:20:10am |
re: #773 soxfan4life
"how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with the hammer."
Why do I sense a degree of inconsistency with that remark?
/
| 784 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 8:20:18am |
re: #772 turn
Yes, working on that strongly worded resonse right now. I see that bomb was like way bigger than the last one - oh great.
It wasn't that it was bigger. It was that it worked. The last test in 2006 was a fizzle. They solved the problems, and it detonated with a force of 10-20kt, which puts it in a Hiroshima/Nagasaki class weapon.
The UN issued a statement warning of future action on North Korea. President Obama issued a statement, and then went to complete his round of golf.
Business as usual. And North Korea continues building its nuclear arsenal.
The world yawns (actions speak louder than words).
| 785 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 8:20:26am |
re: #782 rightside
OMG remember Jay Leno had the "dancing Ito's" on during the OJ trial?
Then there was this:
Yesterday
OJ's Trial was so far away
Now Judge Ito will again delay
Oh why can't we have Yesterday?
| 787 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:20:57am |
re: #776 soxfan4life
Isn't the silence from the UN deafening?
Yes. The south is on high alert. Hey did you see that former skorea president jumped off a friggin cliff?
| 788 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:21:23am |
re: #779 Killgore Trout
Dow +153
Go, baby, go!
Also, according to Bloomberg, oil is overpriced and quite likely to drop toward $50/bbl again in June.
| 789 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:21:40am |
re: #777 turn
Uh, Charles, to his credit, unbanned Red, saying something like he let his anger take over or somesuch.
He really DOES try to be fair, ya know?
| 790 |
Elcid Tue, May 26, 2009 8:21:56am |
re: #778 realwest
Hi Elcid! That's easy for you to say! Not spell correctly, perhaps, but say! LOL!
I've been trying to use spellcheck and Preview for almost every comment these days. Sometimes I feel like I'm chatting with old friends out here, and just type what I would orally say to them. The results, alas, are not pretty!
How are you doing today ?
I'm gooder as hell, realwest..:) Hope all with you is finer then frog's hair.
| 791 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:22:32am |
| 792 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 8:22:33am |
re: #718 Occasional Reader
It is a sort of odd "ethnicity" that includes (putatively) Nuhuatl-speaking Mayans-descended people from Mexico, and blue-eyed, German-surnamed people from Argentina.
Reminds me of someone I worked with. When asked
"Where are you from? Guatemala, was it?"
he answered
"Lowell [MA]"
He did have the Central American Indian look. Great guy.
| 793 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:22:36am |
re: #780 jcm
First one was a fizzle, they're sorting things out. 10-15kt range means a very basic type bomb.
The NPR geniuses this morning sounded genuinely puzzled about how this could be happening even though Bush is no longer in office.
| 794 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, May 26, 2009 8:22:38am |
It might be a good idea to define some terms here also; As I understand it, when Charles refers to Creationists, he means the 7/24hr. types. I am a firm believer in a Creator and thus think of myself as a Creationist.
| 795 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 8:22:53am |
re: #784 lawhawk
It wasn't that it was bigger. It was that it worked. The last test in 2006 was a fizzle. They solved the problems, and it detonated with a force of 10-20kt, which puts it in a Hiroshima/Nagasaki class weapon.
Next question, was it one of three basic designs: uranium gun (Little Boy), uranium implosion (what the Chinese used for 596) or plutonium implosion (Trinity/Fat Man)?
| 796 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:23:08am |
re: #787 turn
Yes. The south is on high alert. Hey did you see that former skorea president jumped off a friggin cliff?
Remember when they called up the reserves and over 1/2 refused to report. High alert for the South isn't much.
| 797 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:23:12am |
re: #784 lawhawk
Thanks LH. They are working on getting their ICBMs to work too. Dangerous combination. Hey while I've got you here, aren't we essentially powerless to do anything about nk right now?
| 798 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 8:23:39am |
re: #784 lawhawk
It wasn't that it was bigger. It was that it worked. The last test in 2006 was a fizzle. They solved the problems, and it detonated with a force of 10-20kt, which puts it in a Hiroshima/Nagasaki class weapon.
The UN issued a statement warning of future action on North Korea. President Obama issued a statement, and then went to complete his round of golf.
Business as usual. And North Korea continues building its nuclear arsenal.
The world yawns (actions speak louder than words).
Golf after the North Korean blast. Reminds me of the end of Caddyshack. Maybe he's hoping the next one will knock his ball in.
| 799 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 8:24:11am |
re: #794 Spenser (with an S)
It might be a good idea to define some terms here also; As I understand it, when Charles refers to Creationists, he means the 7/24hr. types. I am a firm believer in a Creator and thus think of myself as a Creationist.
Do you also believe that the Cretor also gets to set the clock (so to speak) to whatever He wants it to be?
| 800 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:24:20am |
re: #773 soxfan4life
He was close to giving ironfist the boot.And issued a very strongly worded warning about how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with the hammer.
Time to bring out...The Comfy Chair!
/unwilling to locate obvious Monty Python video...
| 801 |
Elcid Tue, May 26, 2009 8:24:27am |
Hey RW, just tried "check spelling"....'course was before I typed anything...LOL.
| 802 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:24:34am |
re: #789 realwest
Uh, Charles, to his credit, unbanned Red, saying something like he let his anger take over or somesuch.
He really DOES try to be fair, ya know?
Yes he did. Oh hey there OR, thanks for sticking up for red. Your very reasoned exchange with Charles was a pleasure to read.
| 803 |
nyc redneck Tue, May 26, 2009 8:24:34am |
re: #757 jcm
Obama said exactly that in his 2001 Chicago NPR interview.
i heard that clip. iirc, he basically said he felt the constitution was flawed because it didn't guarantee 'economic' liberty to every citizen.
think: reparations and 'spreading the wealth around'.
o is who he seems to be.
a socialist thug who has no regard for the constitution except to pervert it.
| 804 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:24:44am |
re: #788 Occasional Reader
Also, according to Bloomberg, oil is overpriced and quite likely to drop toward $50/bbl again in June.
Sounds good to me.
| 805 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 8:25:15am |
IIRC there are some people on the stalker site who hated cog with a white hot passion!
| 806 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:25:16am |
re: #792 Kosh's Shadow
"Where are you from? Guatemala, was it?"
he answered
"Lowell [MA]"
Nice. Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from The Deer Hunter:
VA hospital shrink: "Chevotarevich", is that a Russian name?
Nick (Christopher Walken): No, it's an American name.
| 807 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:11am |
re: #729 Ward Cleaver
I recorded it on VHS off of cable, years ago. I still have it.
I saw "A Boy and His Dog" when it first came out; I remember discussing it at the SF Bookstore in Harvard Square, when Spike McPhee ran the place. A long time ago.
I got a VHS copy that looked like someone recorded it off a TV with bad reception using a camcorder.
I will be ordering the official DVD.
Blood: Well, I'd certainly say she had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.
| 808 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:12am |
re: #779 Killgore Trout
Dow +153
Go, baby, go!
I'm a little surprised. The Asian markets were very jitttery (last night here,,, day there) due to north korea
| 809 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:21am |
re: #802 turn
Yes he did. Oh hey there OR, thanks for sticking up for red. Your very reasoned exchange with Charles was a pleasure to read.
Shut the @#$% up, you @%#$ing @#%!
/
| 810 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:22am |
re: #793 Occasional Reader
The NPR geniuses this morning sounded genuinely puzzled about how this could be happening even though Bush is no longer in office.
You have got to be kidding me. There is no cure for BDS.
| 811 |
unrealizedviewpoint Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:24am |
re: #767 Honorary Yooper
... It also appears Cog got into a pissing match with Charles and forgot who owns the blog.
I suspect that often is the case - folks just forget this is not some public thoroughfare with soapboxes stationed on every corner with signs that say "state your mind."
| 812 |
Salamantis Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:31am |
Oh, my name is Cognito
I'm contrarian just like Magneto
I argue just like Judge Ito
But I'm brittle just like a Frito
I've always thought I was neato
With a verbal barrage like Don Vito
But Charles has the ultimate veto
And he swatted me like a mosquito
Now I've been purged like a bad burrito!
| 813 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:32am |
re: #773 soxfan4life
He was close to giving ironfist the boot.
AndHe issued a very strongly worded warning about how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with thehammerhamster.
There, that takes care of the violence part!
/h
| 814 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:32am |
re: #800 NelsFree
Time to bring out...The Comfy Chair!
/unwilling to locate obvious Monty Python video...
CAKE OR DEATH!
| 815 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:26:41am |
re: #788 Occasional Reader
Also, according to Bloomberg, oil is overpriced and quite likely to drop toward $50/bbl again in June.
Good news. Below $50 per barrel and life gets very difficult for the Iranian regime. Perhaps expect the Hairy Dwarf to make a scene & try to push the price of oil back up.
| 816 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:27:17am |
re: #799 Macker
Don't be silly Macker, the "Cretor" doesn't set the clock, it's set by the Atomic Clock (says so right here in my Hammacher Schlemmer catalog!).
| 817 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:27:20am |
re: #698 Noam Chumpski
I believe the World Net Daily folks want to start a nationwide billboard campaign. (one billboard up in Florida?) Charles had an article about it -- "Nirthers Fleecing the Flock" on May 21, 2009...
| 818 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:27:35am |
re: #798 Kosh's Shadow
Golf after the North Korean blast. Reminds me of the end of Caddyshack. Maybe he's hoping the next one will knock his ball in.
Weren't the lefties outraged over Bush making decisions while golfing?
| 819 |
Macker Tue, May 26, 2009 8:27:36am |
re: #812 Salamantis
Oh, my name is Cognito
I'm contrarian just like Magneto
I argue just like Judge Ito
But I'm brittle just like a Frito
I've always thought I was neato
With a verbal barrage like Don Vito
But Charles has the ultimate veto
And he swatted me like a mosquito
Now I've been purged like a bad burrito!
If I could give you 1,000 updings I would!
| 820 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:27:47am |
re: #804 Killgore Trout
Sounds good to me.
I like the $50-$60 range as being still pricey enough to keep us focused on weaning ourselves off the addiciton, without strangling the economy.
(Of course, I have no data to back that up, and am basically talking out of my ass, but hey.)
| 821 |
Russkilitlover Tue, May 26, 2009 8:27:51am |
re: #788 Occasional Reader
Also, according to Bloomberg, oil is overpriced and quite likely to drop toward $50/bbl again in June.
Not if Obama has anything to say about it. He has stated that he thinks $4 gal gas is right where it should be. Seeing his massive monetary grab approps the "stimulus," it's a logical conclusion that this greedy bastard NEEDS $4+ gal gas for the government revenue stream.
| 822 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:06am |
re: #797 turn
Thanks LH. They are working on getting their ICBMs to work too. Dangerous combination. Hey while I've got you here, aren't we essentially powerless to do anything about nk right now?
Even worse, North Korea wants to SELL their nukes, but no one would buy without evidence they worked.
Time for a 100% blockade.
How many you think Ahmadinejad has on order? And Bashir Assad?
I think a few ships enroute to Iran and Syria might suddenly disappear.
| 824 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:11am |
re: #808 sattv4u2
Some jobs report came out this morning with better than expected results.
| 825 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:12am |
re: #721 Honorary Yooper
WTF!?! Cog took his contrarianism way too far. What a maroon.
It happened on the Copenhagen "counter-jihad summit" thread:
Comment #216: Charles mentions a book he has ordered.
Comment 247: Cognito responds with a cryptic comment he refuses to explain.
Comment #308: Charles calls Cognito a creationist.
Comment #311: Cognito starts acting snarky.
Comment 328: After Cognito issues another denial, Charles issues hostile challenge.
Comment 336: After Cognito issues another denial, Sharmuta invites him to explain a linked comment.
Comment 342: Dark_Falcon warns Cognito to cool it.
Comment 343: Conito issues snarky response to Sharmuta.
Comment 349: Cognito waves off DF's warning.
Will be continued.
| 826 |
unrealizedviewpoint Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:18am |
re: #805 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
IIRC there are some people on the stalker site who hated cog with a white hot passion!
They'll love him now, he's one of em.
Actually, I doubt Cog would soil himself so by going there.
| 827 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:53am |
re: #791 NelsFree
Find yourself a pretty lass, alas...
/h
A lass with a pretty ass is like a loch with a trophy bass.
*ducks*
| 828 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:58am |
re: #801 Elcid ROTFL! Well hey, at least you caught your own error - mine seem to be caught by others who are too graceless to let a slip of the keyboard go by!
| 829 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28:58am |
re: #784 lawhawk
It wasn't that it was bigger. It was that it worked. The last test in 2006 was a fizzle. They solved the problems, and it detonated with a force of 10-20kt, which puts it in a Hiroshima/Nagasaki class weapon.
The UN issued a statement warning of future action on North Korea. President Obama issued a statement, and then went to complete his round of golf.
Business as usual. And North Korea continues building its nuclear arsenal.
The world yawns (actions speak louder than words).
For a bunch of physics reasons the 10-15(or 20)kt range is the the fundamental weapon yield. To go smaller requires high refined nuclear material and very sophisticated primary, to go larger also has it's own problems, you can't just add more nuclear material.
This confirms they have the basics figured out.
We also know the Norks will sell things for hard currency.
| 830 |
LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:01am |
re: #773 soxfan4life
He was close to giving ironfist the boot.And issued a very strongly worded warning about how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with the hammer.
No more talk of violets? I'll be damned. I hope that the prohibition doesn't get out of control and extend to other members of the plant kingdom...........
///
*rolling eyes and whistling softly*
| 831 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:08am |
re: #826 unrealizedviewpoint
I think it is below him also.
| 832 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:13am |
re: #799 Macker
Do you also believe that the Cretor also gets to set the clock (so to speak) to whatever He wants it to be?
Could you clarify? "Gets to set the clock" or did so? The all-powerful Creator I believe in could do anything I suppose.
| 833 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:29am |
re: #820 Occasional Reader
Yeah, I think it's important for us to get away from the oil ticks as soon as possible.
| 834 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:47am |
re: #818 soxfan4life
Weren't the lefties outraged over Bush making decisions while golfing?
Yes. At least he took action sometime; Obama hasn't even sent Kim Jong Il a strongly worded letter. Hell, he couldn't get the UN to do that!
| 835 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:50am |
re: #812 Salamantis
Oh, my name is Cognito
I'm contrarian just like Magneto
I argue just like Judge Ito
But I'm brittle just like a Frito
I've always thought I was neato
With a verbal barrage like Don Vito
But Charles has the ultimate veto
And he swatted me like a mosquito
Now I've been purged like a bad burrito!
Because I refused to keep my big mouth shuto
I know, that was lame.
| 837 |
MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 8:30:27am |
re: #825 Dark_Falcon
I dinged the fucker down on No. 343 but it suddenly hit me that it's just symbolic.
| 838 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:30:30am |
re: #824 Killgore Trout
Some jobs report came out this morning with better than expected results.
Hmmmm,,,
Markets are stabilizing with an upward trend
Housing market is stabilizing
Now job market shows improvement (always the last indicator)
Can we cancel the rest of the stimulus spending thats scheduled for 2010 and 2011~!?!?!?!
| 839 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 8:30:30am |
re: #812 Salamantis
Oh, my name is Cognito
I'm contrarian just like Magneto
I argue just like Judge Ito
But I'm brittle just like a Frito
I've always thought I was neato
With a verbal barrage like Don Vito
But Charles has the ultimate veto
And he swatted me like a mosquito
Now I've been purged like a bad burrito!
LMAO! Splendid work Sal!
| 840 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:30:42am |
re: #816 realwest
Don't be silly Macker, the "Cretor" doesn't set the clock, it's set by the Atomic Clock (says so right here in my Hammacher Schlemmer catalog!).
Expensive toys for grownups! I have to admit, I love browsing their stuff. (Or browsing a little in their store on 57th St. when in NYC.)
| 841 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:31:23am |
re: #821 Russkilitlover
Not if Obama has anything to say about it. He has stated that he thinks $4 gal gas is right where it should be. Seeing his massive monetary grab approps the "stimulus," it's a logical conclusion that this greedy bastard NEEDS $4+ gal gas for the government revenue stream.
Remember his comments when gas prices shot up last year. He wasn't upset they were at $4 a gallon, only that it happened so fast. He wants us to acclimate to it slowly and less painfully.
| 842 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:31:31am |
What happens after preventive detention collapses?
Last Thursday President Obama gave a speech at the National Archives during which he discussed what he intends to do about the Guantanamo Bay prison camp. The most important part of the speech was his proposal to create, for the first time in U.S. history, a legal system of preventive detention, the prolonged detention of individuals who have not been convicted in a criminal trial.There are very valid grounds to doubt whether the Congress would ever pass a statute creating a system of preventive detention. Regardless of political ideology, any American should be concerned about a law that allowed the government to confine someone indefinitely without an indictment. Even if the first iteration of the statue applies only to, say, non-citizen terror suspects, once the precedent is set, future Congresses could expand the parameters of preventive detention.
The teacher of Constitutional Law just set himself up for a Constitutional Fail!
| 844 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:32:43am |
re: #822 Kosh's Shadow
Even worse, North Korea wants to SELL their nukes, but no one would buy without evidence they worked.
Time for a 100% blockade.How many you think Ahmadinejad has on order? And Bashir Assad?
I think a few ships enroute to Iran and Syria might suddenly disappear.
Nork would most likely send the weapons by ship, due to weight and volume limits. A naval blockade would work if the PRC did not interfere. The Blockade would have to last as long as the possibility existed, though.
| 846 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:33:08am |
re: #815 Kenneth
Hey Kenneth - good morning! Maybe that's why the Iranian "Navy" has been sent to the Straits - try to shut it down and jack up the cost of oil all over the world - or as a response to the unkind things the UN Security Council said about him Iran last week?
| 847 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:33:36am |
re: #824 Killgore Trout
Some jobs report came out this morning with better than expected results.
Indeed, the jobs outlook is bright for the Stimulus-Related Job Readiness Program Coordinator industry.
| 848 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:33:52am |
re: #838 sattv4u2
Hmmmm,,,
Markets are stabilizing with an upward trend
Housing market is stabilizing
Now job market shows improvement (always the last indicator)Can we cancel the rest of the stimulus spending thats scheduled for 2010 and 2011~!?!?!?!
There are still elections that have to be bought.
| 849 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:34:08am |
re: #825 Dark_Falcon
Re-capping Cog's Last Meltdown is about as interesting as watching Joan Rivers latest tantrum on Celebrity Apprentice.
Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringggggggggggggggg
| 850 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:34:10am |
re: #822 Kosh's Shadow
Even worse, North Korea wants to SELL their nukes, but no one would buy without evidence they worked.
Time for a 100% blockade.How many you think Ahmadinejad has on order? And Bashir Assad?
I think a few ships enroute to Iran and Syria might suddenly disappear.
Yes that is a scary thought. I read they have enough plutonium to make 6 bombs. Hey, wasn't that first bomb only U235? Now they have plutonium oh great. Even China is concerned.
| 851 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:34:11am |
re: #836 albusteve
Paulains and secessionists are determined to derail our economic recovery by creating a constitutional crisis. Not helpful.
| 852 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:34:21am |
re: #833 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I think it's important for us to get away from the oil ticks as soon as possible.
Drill here, drill now, pay less, increase taxable revenue, lower prices, improve national security...looks like win-win all around.
| 853 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:03am |
re: #838 sattv4u2
Maybe. We still have a long way to go.
| 854 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:04am |
re: #832 Spenser (with an S)
Could you clarify? "Gets to set the clock" or did so? The all-powerful Creator I believe in could do anything I suppose.
Oh yeah? Well then, could He make an alarm clock with a buzzer so annoying, even He wouldn't be able to stand it?
| 855 |
Russkilitlover Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:10am |
re: #838 sattv4u2
Can we cancel the rest of the stimulus spending thats scheduled for 2010 and 2011~!?!?!?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......*breathe*....HAHAHAHAHAHA...
| 856 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:10am |
re: #846 realwest
Yup. Every time the price of oil slips, the Iranians get up to mischief.
| 857 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:16am |
re: #846 realwest
Hey Kenneth - good morning! Maybe that's why the Iranian "Navy" has been sent to the Straits - try to shut it down and jack up the cost of oil all over the world - or as a response to the unkind things the UN Security Council said about
himIran last week?
What else is going on the Gulf of Aden?
The pirate thing.
US Navy has a higher than normal presence in the Gulf of Aden.
They are going where they know the possibility of contact in international waters is the highest.
| 858 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:17am |
re: #783 realwest
"how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with the hammer."
Why do I sense a degree of inconsistency with that remark?
/
Violence begets violins.
| 859 |
NelsFree Tue, May 26, 2009 8:35:42am |
re: #843 Iron Fist
Roberts is good, don't get me wrong. But Thomas is, how to say it, more deliberative than most of the other Justices. He knows when to say things, and, more importantly, when to remain silent. This is a rare gift among the political class, who too often speak just for the joy of hearing their own voice.
thomas is just a cut above the rest. He handled his "lynching" (at the hands of Senate Democrats) well, whereas I'd have gotten royally pissed off (I'd imagine he was, too) and told them to go fuck themselves (probably not the best choice of words, what with them bandying about the "sexual harassment" charge as though it really meant something).
Well, I'll have to read his book. Thank you for the info.
| 860 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:36:04am |
re: #842 Kenneth
Exactly. It would be the creation of a Police State. (that's no trial, no set date for release, but in jail...and, on American soil (?!)) (personally, I don't see this happening -- not with the ACLU -- the terrorists will be released before this happens).
| 861 |
Dianna Tue, May 26, 2009 8:36:32am |
re: #851 Killgore Trout
Paulains and secessionists are determined to derail our economic recovery by creating a constitutional crisis. Not helpful.
Aren't we already having an economic crisis?
| 862 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:36:43am |
re: #852 NelsFree
Drill here, drill now, pay less, increase taxable revenue, lower prices, improve national security...looks like win-win all around.
Won't happen with this administration. Oil could be $1,000 a barrel and they won't allow drilling.
| 863 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:36:50am |
re: #847 Occasional Reader
I think there will be a lot of wrong turns and mistakes but I think the doom and gloom/ end of the world camp will be proven wrong.
| 864 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:37:09am |
re: #849 Kenneth
Re-capping Cog's Last Meltdown is about as interesting as watching Joan Rivers latest tantrum on Celebrity Apprentice.
Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringggggggggggggggg
No, no no!
I want this recap for Vol 2.
Recap of Meltdown #1 is fully documented.
I would dearly love to have recap of Meltdown #2.
| 865 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:37:30am |
re: #861 Dianna
Aren't we already having an economic crisis?
Yes, but there's increasing evidence that we are recovering.
| 866 |
johnnyreb Tue, May 26, 2009 8:37:43am |
re: #841 soxfan4life
Remember his comments when gas prices shot up last year. He wasn't upset they were at $4 a gallon, only that it happened so fast. He wants us to acclimate to it slowly and less painfully.
If he keeps tossing money around in the trillion + dollar budgets he is going to get his wish for $4 a gallon gas. But it ain't going to happen the way he thinks it will.
| 867 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:37:43am |
re: #850 turn
North Korea has both uranium 235 and plutonium. Mix a little plutonium into your U-235 & you get a bigger bang for your buck. I wonder if the US intelligence agency can sniff plutonium in air samples following NoKo's recent bomb test?
| 868 |
LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 8:37:56am |
re: #852 NelsFree
Drill here, drill now, pay less, increase taxable revenue, lower prices, improve national security...looks like win-win all around.
'Yeah but we can save just as much by inflating our tires properly. And as a side benefit, if we inflate them with our own breath, that will provide a nice storage place for all our dangerous carbon dioxide'.
- Paraphrasing our brilliant President
/
| 869 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:38:02am |
re: #838 sattv4u2
Hmmmm,,,
Markets are stabilizing with an upward trend
Housing market is stabilizing
Now job market shows improvement (always the last indicator)Can we cancel the rest of the stimulus spending thats scheduled for 2010 and 2011~!?!?!?!
[Nancy Pelosi responds with puzzled blinking]
| 870 |
Salamantis Tue, May 26, 2009 8:38:25am |
re: #783 realwest
"how he wasn't going to tolerate any more talk of violence and would come down hard with the hammer."
Why do I sense a degree of inconsistency with that remark?
/
When Charles moves, he slices like a f'in hammer!
| 871 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:38:46am |
re: #866 johnnyreb
If he keeps tossing money around in the trillion + dollar budgets he is going to get his wish for $4 a gallon gas. But it ain't going to happen the way he thinks it will.
Yep, unfortunately the dollar has already been getting hammered in the last several weeks.
| 872 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:38:50am |
re: #869 Occasional Reader
[Nancy Pelosi responds with puzzled blinking]
Actually, you know you have her stumped when she STOPS blinking!
| 873 |
Dianna Tue, May 26, 2009 8:38:58am |
re: #865 Killgore Trout
Yes, but there's increasing evidence that we are recovering.
I want you to be right. But I'm worried about the inflationary aspects of the stimulus and bailouts.
| 874 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 8:39:30am |
re: #842 Kenneth
What happens after preventive detention collapses?
The teacher of Constitutional Law just set himself up for a Constitutional Fail!
I hope the fail will be very hurtful indeed!
Mind - thats another thing which he seems to have picked up from NuLab over here, where Tony Bliar and the Gord wanted to pass a law that allowed the police to detain terror suspects for 48 days without judicial involvement.
The stuffy old House of Lords were having none of it - so no law.
Oh - and the other regime famous for its 'preventive detention', a.k.a 'Schutzhaft'? Yep, good old Nazi Germany ...
| 875 |
unrealizedviewpoint Tue, May 26, 2009 8:40:13am |
re: #862 soxfan4life
Won't happen with this administration. Oil could be $1,000 a barrel and they won't allow drilling.
It's just so damn illogical. Someone please expain to me the dems logic - about not drilling for oil here at home.
| 876 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:40:13am |
re: #873 Dianna
I want you to be right. But I'm worried about the inflationary aspects of the stimulus and bailouts.
If we put a stop to the FUTURE stimulus spending it shouldn;t be too bad.
As far as the bailouts, as long as the gov't allows the banks to give the monies back it's a zero sum game
| 877 |
Russkilitlover Tue, May 26, 2009 8:40:22am |
re: #863 Killgore Trout
I think there will be a lot of wrong turns and mistakes but I think the doom and gloom/ end of the world camp will be proven wrong.
Obama and his band of merry men whipped up the doom, gloom, and end of times crap. He played Congress and the American people like a cheap fiddle.
Now the economy is doing what the American economy routinely does and is climbing back in spite of unprecedented government intrusion. And this administration is flush with Congressional authorization to spend the money they have been printing. I really don't know how our economy will handle the fallout.
| 878 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 8:40:38am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation -
forgive me, my anger was roused over that 'preventive-detention' malarkey, so i just posted ...
Hope you're all well, and had a jolly good weekend!
| 879 |
Summersong Tue, May 26, 2009 8:40:55am |
re: #869 Occasional Reader
[Nancy Pelosi responds with puzzled blinking]
And random, meaningless finger pointing.
| 881 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:41:04am |
| 882 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:41:44am |
re: #875 unrealizedviewpoint
It's just so damn illogical. Someone please expain to me the dems logic - about not drilling for oil here at home.
Um... "it's for the children"? Something like that, anyway. (Oh, and dolphins... something about dolphins.)
| 883 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:42:36am |
re: #879 Summersong
And random, meaningless finger pointing.
It's not at all meaningless.
It's her way of doing the kids defense of " Yeah ,, I did that, but Mary did something WORSE,,,, look ,, shiney things!"
| 884 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 8:42:56am |
re: #867 Kenneth
North Korea has both uranium 235 and plutonium. Mix a little plutonium into your U-235 & you get a bigger bang for your buck. I wonder if the US intelligence agency can sniff plutonium in air samples following NoKo's recent bomb test?
So Obama's Nork policy now consists of smelling their fucking radioactive farts? That's just great!
| 885 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 8:43:09am |
re: #882 Occasional Reader
Um... "it's for the children"? Something like that, anyway. (Oh, and dolphins... something about dolphins.)
And Polar Bears - mustn't forget them ...!
| 886 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 8:43:25am |
re: #850 turn
Yes that is a scary thought. I read they have enough plutonium to make 6 bombs. Hey, wasn't that first bomb only U235? Now they have plutonium oh great. Even China is concerned.
If China were really concerned, the problem would have been solved already?
| 887 |
soxfan4life Tue, May 26, 2009 8:43:26am |
re: #875 unrealizedviewpoint
It's just so damn illogical. Someone please expain to me the dems logic - about not drilling for oil here at home.
If there is a surplus of jobs and a strong dollar, less people are dependent upon the government for anything and more apt to vote conservative. Thus denying Democrats of their life blood POWER.
| 888 |
LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 8:43:31am |
re: #882 Occasional Reader
Um... "it's for the children"? Something like that, anyway. (Oh, and dolphins... something about dolphins.)
I don't understand their porpoise in this.......
| 889 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:44:03am |
re: #884 Spare O'Lake
So Obama's Nork policy now consists of smelling their fucking radioactive farts? That's just great!
"Quick ,, someone get me a coalmine tunnel bird"
| 890 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:44:08am |
re: #860 J.S.
Exactly. It would be the creation of a Police State. (that's no trial, no set date for release, but in jail...and, on American soil (?!)) (personally, I don't see this happening -- not with the ACLU -- the terrorists will be released before this happens).
I was thinking (dangerous thing) if they do get released here in the US that they might get hunted down and offed by somebody. Then it dawned on me that the government would realized this could happen too so they would probably be made part of the witness protection program. Oh great do we release them, we pay to hide them too. Great move O.
| 891 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:44:34am |
re: #850 turn
Yes that is a scary thought. I read they have enough plutonium to make 6 bombs. Hey, wasn't that first bomb only U235? Now they have plutonium oh great. Even China is concerned.
My interpretation is that China is perfectly happy about these recent tests. The diplomatic fallout will be this: the 6 Party Talks will be finally declared a dead end (before you cheer that, consider what the possible alternatives are), at the same time the NoKo issue gets shoved onto Obama's lap & pushed to the top of his agenda. China steps in a helpful offers to "solve" the NoKo problem by bringing Pyongyang to heal. The price for doing this is that North Korea will never be re-united with South Korea. Instead, North Korea, post-Kim, will become a Chinese client state & a pool of cheap labor for Chinese manufacturers.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a one-time Walmart director, did a heck of a job!
| 892 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 8:45:19am |
re: #867 Kenneth
North Korea has both uranium 235 and plutonium. Mix a little plutonium into your U-235 & you get a bigger bang for your buck. I wonder if the US intelligence agency can sniff plutonium in air samples following NoKo's recent bomb test?
We've got several aircraft that can take and analysis samples. Not only sniff Pu, but analysis isotope proportions etc....
| 893 |
Summersong Tue, May 26, 2009 8:45:40am |
| 894 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 8:46:07am |
| 895 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:46:17am |
re: #867 Kenneth
North Korea has both uranium 235 and plutonium. Mix a little plutonium into your U-235 & you get a bigger bang for your buck. I wonder if the US intelligence agency can sniff plutonium in air samples following NoKo's recent bomb test?
Lets hope so. Man that was a really good idea giving that poor little country a nuclear reactor. sheesh
| 896 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 8:46:24am |
re: #837 MandyManners
I dinged the fucker down on No. 343 but it suddenly hit me that it's just symbolic.
Comment 356: MandyManners praises Sharm for the latters quick reaction.
Comment 363: Cognito uses Mandy's comment to insult Sharm.
Comment 405: Cognito starts baiting Charles.
Comment 414: Sharmuta, for the forth time, asks Cognito to explain comment 247.
Comment 418: Dark_Falcon fires warning flares to divert Cog from his collision course.
Comment 425: Dark_Falcon requests that Cog answer Sharm's question.
Comment 426: Cognito again ignores Df's warning. This time Df downdings him.
Comment 432: Cognito waves off DF's request for answer to Sharm and is heavilly downdinged.
Continued.
| 897 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 8:46:35am |
| 898 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:46:39am |
re: #847 Occasional Reader
Indeed, the jobs outlook is bright for the Stimulus-Related Job Readiness Program Coordinator industry.
Yep the job outlook is brighter.......as long as you don't mind being UNDEREMPLOYED - you know, you used to earn (and live on $100,000 a year - maybe one of those 80,000 California State employees) and now you get a grantwriter postion (quoting from Steyn there) at oh, $40,000 a year! You'll lose your home, car, kid's tuition and retirement possibilites but by gosh you are employed!
| 899 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 8:46:53am |
re: #787 turn
Yes. The south is on high alert. Hey did you see that former skorea president jumped off a friggin cliff?
Oh my.
| 900 |
LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 8:47:33am |
re: #875 unrealizedviewpoint
It's just so damn illogical. Someone please expain to me the dems logic - about not drilling for oil here at home.
Logic can't explain leftist positions, which is one of the reasons they are so maddening to talk to.
Wait till gas hits $10 a gallon. Even the half asleep sheep out there should wake up to that and start asking the Democrat 'taking care of the little guy' Party WTF?
| 902 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:48:45am |
re: #884 Spare O'Lake
So Obama's Nork policy now consists of smelling their fucking radioactive farts? That's just great!
That comment reeks of ODS. I have plenty of criticism of Obama's foreign policy, but let's stick to something substantial, ok? Under any president, the CIA or military intelligence would be sampling the air following a nuke test. They can tell a lot about the state of the NoKo technology from the isotopes produced in the blast.
| 903 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:49:58am |
re: #898 realwest
Yep the job outlook is brighter.......as long as you don't mind being UNDEREMPLOYED - you know, you used to earn (and live on $100,000 a year - maybe one of those 80,000 California State employees) and now you get a grantwriter postion (quoting from Steyn there) at oh, $40,000 a year! You'll lose your home, car, kid's tuition and retirement possibilites but by gosh you are employed!
Having your income cut from 100K to 40K is NOT the end of the world
Been there, Done that, (a couple of times, actually) Got the T Shirt
Just because at one time in your life you were at XXX salary does NOT mean you ALWAYS have to be at XXX level
| 904 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:50:08am |
re: #886 Nevergiveup
If China were really concerned, the problem would have been solved already?
Yeah, they could have starved them into submission. Too late now, I think we are powerless to do anything about it.
| 905 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:50:08am |
re: #890 turn
CNN (was it yesterday?) had a report on about the Chinese Muslims in Gitmo who are persecuted in China...the Uyghur people...Apparently, according to CNN, there's a community of Uyghur in (iirc) Alexandria, Virginia, (?) which has said that they'll take them in...
| 906 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 8:51:10am |
re: #904 turn
Yeah, they could have starved them into submission. Too late now, I think we are powerless to do anything about it.
China still could exert influence if they wanted but Kenneth 891 is probably not far from the truth.
| 907 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 8:51:30am |
re: #905 J.S.
CNN (was it yesterday?) had a report on about the Chinese Muslims in Gitmo who are persecuted in China...the Uyghur people...Apparently, according to CNN, there's a community of Uyghur in (iirc) Alexandria, Virginia, (?) which has said that they'll take them in...
It was my understanding that senator Jim Web b stated that the Virginia community did NOT want to take them in
| 908 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:51:56am |
re: #863 Killgore Trout
I think there will be a lot of wrong turns and mistakes but I think the doom and gloom/ end of the world camp will be proven wrong.
I sure hope you're right Killgore. Uh, I mean if you're thinking of the doom and gloom/end of the world camp about economics!
| 909 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 8:52:23am |
re: #907 sattv4u2
It was my understanding that senator Jim Web b stated that the Virginia community did NOT want to take them in
I guess it depends on your definition of "take" and "is". All ways throw in "is" for good luck.
| 910 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 8:53:58am |
re: #907 sattv4u2
You could be correct. (as I recall, CNN quoted one politician who was supporting the Uyghurs, and then quoted another politician who was opposed...I don't recall the names..)
| 911 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 8:54:28am |
re: #878 yma o hyd
Hey, good afternoon {yma} - I hope you're feeling well and that your arthritis is less hurtful today!
| 912 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:54:43am |
re: #891 Kenneth
My interpretation is that China is perfectly happy about these recent tests. The diplomatic fallout will be this: the 6 Party Talks will be finally declared a dead end (before you cheer that, consider what the possible alternatives are), at the same time the NoKo issue gets shoved onto Obama's lap & pushed to the top of his agenda. China steps in a helpful offers to "solve" the NoKo problem by bringing Pyongyang to heal. The price for doing this is that North Korea will never be re-united with South Korea. Instead, North Korea, post-Kim, will become a Chinese client state & a pool of cheap labor for Chinese manufacturers.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a one-time Walmart director, did a heck of a job!
I hadn't thought of it in that way, thanks. Yes China could play this to their advantage. What, if anything, has Hillary accomplished so far?
| 913 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:54:54am |
Not that this will make any difference but.....
"Where Policy Is Made": Sotomayor's Court Comment Explained
It's probably not a big deal.
| 915 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 8:55:33am |
re: #902 Kenneth
That comment reeks of ODS.
What really stinks is the fact that Obama is, I fear, a gutless, all-talk-no-action, appeaser. NK and Iran are the prime current examples.
You can call it a syndrome if you want, but I see a very dangerous trend.
| 916 |
midwestgak Tue, May 26, 2009 8:55:54am |
OT: Anyone unemployed in IL? Did you know you cannot apply on line for unemployment benefits if you do not have access to Internet Explorer? Safari is not an acceptable avenue to do so.
Did you further know that severance pay does not mean you cannot apply?
Arg. Ignorance of how things work is my bad.
| 917 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 8:55:57am |
I'm re-posting this because I think it was one of the best comments ever. Please feel free to ding it up again, (although the good karma rightly belongs to realwest):
#269 realwest
I am honored to express my gratitude to all of the men and women of the US Armed Forces who died wearing the uniform of the United States of America (or who died subsequently from their actions while wearing said uniform) and to their families who feel their individual loss more sharply on this “official” day of Memorial. As the sole remaining man of my very small band of brothers, today is an especially difficult one for me.
But we need to ask: why did those troops die (either in wartime or “peacetime”)? The obvious answer is that they died protecting America. But WHICH America were they protecting? For surely America during the days of WWII (entering a recession when the War ended) differed from the America during the days of WW I (just about to enter the “roaring 20’s” with prosperity for nearly everyone willing to work for it). And of course America today is VASTLY different from the America of WWII or Korea, or Vietnam or Gulf War I. Indeed, Memorial Day was first observed in 1868 and did not honor the men who fought for the Confederate States of America.
I think the answer is the same: despite economic and social differences, America has always been, at heart, about FREEDOM. Indeed, America is the only nation with the Bill of Rights and all of the guaranties granted to the citizens therein. Some of our oldest friends and with whom we have so much in common, Canada and Great Britain, have no protection of freedom of speech comparable to ours. We do not have “Hate Speech” or ” Hate Crimes Tribunal”, we are still free to run out into the street and curse out our political leaders without fear of being arrested and dragged off in the middle of the night, never to be seen or heard from again. And while our Freedoms are still evolving, those enshrined in the Bill of Rights are being expanded. All of those troops who made the Ultimate Sacrifice knew the America that they were defending, in every war. And they loved it so much they were willing to risk and give their lives for it.
Now the Bill of Rights also provides for Freedom of Worship, which necessarily means Freedom not to Worship and I would never ask you all to Pray with me for those troops who lost their lives so that we could live our lives in Freedom and, indeed, so that America could remain the Beacon Of Freedom for the entire World.
But I would ask you all to please click on this short (2:29) song, listen and bow your heads for a minute in pride and remembrance of all those who gave all for all of us and our children:
[Link: [Link: www.imeem.com...]...]
Thank you all.
| 918 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 8:56:03am |
Help!
Is he serious? Is this serious science?
Professor Steven Chu: paint the world white to fight global warming
| 919 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 8:57:07am |
This is going to upset some people....
Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture
In an appearance on Radio Free Europe on Sunday, the man hailed by conservatives as the preeminent military figure of his generation left little room for doubt about where he stands on some of Obama's most contentious policies.
"I think, on balance, that those moves help [us]," said the chief of U.S. Central Command. "In fact, I have long been on record as having testified and also in helping write doctrine for interrogation techniques that are completely in line with the Geneva Convention. And as a division commander in Iraq in the early days, we put out guidance very early on to make sure that our soldiers, in fact, knew that we needed to stay within those guidelines.
"With respect to Guantanamo," Petraeus added, "I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the Attorney General the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward. But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."
| 920 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 8:57:34am |
re: #911 realwest
Hey, good afternoon {yma} - I hope you're feeling well and that your arthritis is less hurtful today!
Hiya, {rw}!
We're ok - and I've found out that I've now got an in-built weather detector: if my hands hurt, its gotta be cold ...
Yep - works!
I hope you're fine, and al is well with you!
| 921 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 8:57:47am |
re: #901 Iron Fist
I'm sure they will be protected in some manner. They'll change their names, give them a fake history, and undoubtably pay them well for their time and trouble at Club Gitmo. It's almost enough to make me want to join al Qaeda just so I can be captured by US troops.
I sure could use a vacation...
The only up side would be the feds would have their eyes on the constantly. You're not kidding, what's the downside to becoming a terrorist now?
| 922 |
JohnnyReb Tue, May 26, 2009 8:58:11am |
re: #898 realwest
Yep the job outlook is brighter.......as long as you don't mind being UNDEREMPLOYED - you know, you used to earn (and live on $100,000 a year - maybe one of those 80,000 California State employees) and now you get a grantwriter postion (quoting from Steyn there) at oh, $40,000 a year! You'll lose your home, car, kid's tuition and retirement possibilites but by gosh you are employed!
The US government has constantly changed the rules for unemployment stats. They quit reporting exactly what you said above. They also stopped reporting a person as unemployed if their benefits run out. They also no longer count anyone who is full time SS disability, nor do they count the people who receive permanent welfare.
If you seriously looked at the true unemployment figures we would be at about 11-12% nationwide right now. Michigan would be over 20% according to some.
| 923 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 8:58:56am |
re: #916 midwestgak
OT: Anyone unemployed in IL? Did you know you cannot apply on line for unemployment benefits if you do not have access to Internet Explorer? Safari is not an acceptable avenue to do so.
Did you further know that severance pay does not mean you cannot apply?
Arg. Ignorance of how things work is my bad.
know that about IE vs. Safari, but if you got severance pay, you can apply for unemployment in Illinois. At the end of the first term, you can re-up for another term as well. Just keep calling into the system everyother week as IDES asks for, and you should be fine.
| 924 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:00:44am |
re: #918 yma o hyd
Help!
Is he serious? Is this serious science?
Professor Steven Chu: paint the world white to fight global warming
re: #918 yma o hyd
Help!
Is he serious? Is this serious science?
Professor Steven Chu: paint the world white to fight global warming
Apparently, it's been code in California for a few years. Like he says:
“Now, you smile, but he’s done a calculation, made a paper on this, and if you take all the buildings and make their roofs white and if you make the pavement more of a concrete type of colour rather than a black type of colour, and you do this uniformly… it’s the equivalent of reducing the carbon emissions due to all the cars on the road for 11 years, you just take them off the road for 11 years.”
| 925 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 9:00:50am |
re: #918 yma o hyd
Help!
Is he serious? Is this serious science?
Professor Steven Chu: paint the world white to fight global warming
While lighter colors do tend to reflect more heat energy, it's not enough to make much of a difference. Insulation would be a much better idea.
| 926 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:01:11am |
re: #912 turn
I hadn't thought of it in that way, thanks. Yes China could play this to their advantage. What, if anything, has Hillary accomplished so far?
Hillary has done quite a bit actually! Remember her trip to Beijing back in January, when she was conspicuously quiet about China's human rights issues while talking up the "special" US/China relationship?
She arranged for the Chinese to keep on buying US Treasury bills so Obama can pay for his fucktastically huge budget deficit. This deal keeps the US economy from collapsing & it keeps Chinese manufacturers humming away churning out cheap crap. Chimerica lives on!
| 928 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 9:02:21am |
re: #902 Kenneth
That comment reeks of ODS. I have plenty of criticism of Obama's foreign policy, but let's stick to something substantial, ok? Under any president, the CIA or military intelligence would be sampling the air following a nuke test. They can tell a lot about the state of the NoKo technology from the isotopes produced in the blast.
It is very substantial precisely because sniffing NK's ass is all Obama has or will do about NK's nuke program.
Tell me I'm wrong.
OK?
| 929 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 9:02:53am |
re: #919 Killgore Trout
Done in a responsible manner..
What the Obama Administration has done is anything but in a responsible manner. His first action was to call for closure, without knowing what the heck to do with the detainees there. His legal posture has been at odds with detaining those at Gitmo, and putting them into civilian courts isn't a good idea, particularly because the civilian court system doesn't handle terrorists captured on battlefields.
I read that as a subtle dig of the Obama Administration's policy- but diplomatically done.
He's got a responsibility to his troops to do the right thing by them, and to follow the CinC, and the aggressive interrogations wasn't done under the military watch, but rather by the CIA. It's a perfectly political decision to make, and it doesn't exactly enhance the US national security despite his suggestion to the contrary particularly because where are we putting them? The name Gitmo has bad connotation because of the Left - wherever we stick 'em is going to be smeared with the same label.
| 930 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:03:18am |
re: #903 sattv4u2
Having your income cut from 100K to 40K is NOT the end of the world
Been there, Done that, (a couple of times, actually) Got the T Shirt
Just because at one time in your life you were at XXX salary does NOT mean you ALWAYS have to be at XXX level
Well of course it doesn't. But that explanation seems to fall on deaf ears with the bank that hold your mortgage, the college your kid(s) attends demand for tuition and the like.
What I was pointing out - which you obviously missed, is that losing a job where a person has been making $100K a year and replacing it with a job that pays $40k a year, isn't REALLY reducing unemployment, it is, however, increasing UNDEREMPLOYMENT.
And oh yeah, I got the Tee shirt too - from above the $100k a year to Social Security Disability income which is waaaaay less than the $40k a year. Fun isn't it?
| 931 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:03:24am |
re: #916 midwestgak
Welcome Gal.
Did you stick around long enough to see my response to your #342 from yesterdays Colin Powelll thread?
| 932 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:04:12am |
For dog lovers and dog owners:
Canine emotions raise theological questions
Dunno about 'theological' - but someone once said that it was actually the dogs who domesticated man ...
| 933 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:04:38am |
re: #919 Killgore Trout
I've always thought that many of our leading Military leaders should not comment on Political matters. And that means anyone and everyone when in Uniform.
| 934 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 9:04:48am |
re: #919 Killgore Trout
George Bush also wanted Gitmo closed. Everybody wants and says "Close Gitmo." It's like saying, "I want all wars to end." And, while we're at it, let's put an end to torture. Yeah, sure. It all sounds very, very nice and wonderful, until you start thinking about the details. What to do with the "worst of the worst"? What do you do with the Number 2 in al-Qaeda? You simply can't have a criminal trial with "due process" -- it's not gonna happen. (The final chapter in "Willful Blindness" is, imo, a must read -- the author details all that's risked by pursuing the insane strategy of treating terrorists as if they were run-of-the-mill "criminals.")
| 935 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 9:04:53am |
re: #916 midwestgak
OT: Anyone unemployed in IL? Did you know you cannot apply on line for unemployment benefits if you do not have access to Internet Explorer? Safari is not an acceptable avenue to do so.
Did you further know that severance pay does not mean you cannot apply?
Arg. Ignorance of how things work is my bad.
If all else fails the last Mac version of IE.
| 936 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:05:05am |
re: #905 J.S.
CNN (was it yesterday?) had a report on about the Chinese Muslims in Gitmo who are persecuted in China...the Uyghur people...Apparently, according to CNN, there's a community of Uyghur in (iirc) Alexandria, Virginia, (?) which has said that they'll take them in...
Thanks J.S. I"m sure that would work out just fine, what could possibly go wrong? The only good thing I can say about O's decision to close gitmo is it's going to hurt him politically. avaniti are you out there? How is this not going to hurt him.
| 937 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:05:07am |
re: #912 turn
I hadn't thought of it in that way, thanks. Yes China could play this to their advantage. What, if anything, has Hillary accomplished so far?
Well, she HAS been out of the country more than she used to be - that's not a BAD thing, is it?
| 938 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:05:17am |
re: #928 Spare O'Lake
Fine, please comment on Obama's NoKo policy or lack of it.
But the fact the CIA is sampling the air is not an Obama policy plank. It's standard intelligence gathering practice.
| 939 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:06:02am |
re: #925 Honorary Yooper
While lighter colors do tend to reflect more heat energy, it's not enough to make much of a difference. Insulation would be a much better idea.
It should reduce the AC loading a lot, plus the lighter colors reflect more heat into space. It's just one tiny, but easily done thing, not a total solution to anything.
I like to see the math on what percentage of man made structures cover the earth though, it must be a very small number.
| 940 |
Russkilitlover Tue, May 26, 2009 9:06:35am |
re: #928 Spare O'Lake
It is very substantial precisely because sniffing NK's ass is all Obama has or will do about NK's nuke program.
Tell me I'm wrong.
OK?
Well, to look at the situation honestly, what would/could a different admin have done? What options do we have? Blockade? That's an act of war. Sanctions? Doesn't affect them.
| 941 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:07:51am |
re: #917 Kenneth
Thank you Kenneth - it actually made the top ten comments but has disappeared from that list somehow.
| 942 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:08:05am |
re: #924 avanti
re: #925 Honorary Yooper
Yeah - but it only reflects abck into the atmosphere, doesn't it - not into space - so it should rais the greenhouse temperatures, shouldn't it?
And wouldn't it be better to actually use the warmth inside the buildings, to generate eelctricity?
Insulation is also much more useful in northern climes - we don't have hot sunshine all year round!
| 943 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:08:10am |
re: #930 realwest
Sorry Real. but we'll have to agree to disagree. "Underemployment" is one of those feel good phrases the liberals trot out to denegrate capitilism. If I was trained as a blacksmith and I lived in Boston I have 3 choices
MOVE to someplace that NEEDS blacksmiths
RETRAIN to something that needed in Boston
ALLOW the gov't to take care of me
Where the notion came that when one reaches a certain income level they must be gaurunteed to stay there is a mystery to me
| 944 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 9:08:41am |
re: #939 avanti
It should reduce the AC loading a lot, plus the lighter colors reflect more heat into space. It's just one tiny, but easily done thing, not a total solution to anything.
I like to see the math on what percentage of man made structures cover the earth though, it must be a very small number.
It might reduce the AC loading a little, but the winter heating loading would more than make up for that, and vice versa with a black instead of white roof. Again, proper insulation is a better option for reducing both heating and cooling loads than paint.
| 945 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 9:09:01am |
re: #940 Russkilitlover
Well, to look at the situation honestly, what would/could a different admin have done? What options do we have? Blockade? That's an act of war. Sanctions? Doesn't affect them.
We've deferred solving the NorKo problem for so long because it's hard. Now it's damn near impossible.
Your right, not much any admin can do barring Casus Belli.
| 946 |
KenJen Tue, May 26, 2009 9:09:40am |
re: #932 yma o hyd
For dog lovers and dog owners:
Canine emotions raise theological questions
Dunno about 'theological' - but someone once said that it was actually the dogs who domesticated man ...
I believe it. I've also noticed people who do not like dogs tend to be jerks.
| 947 |
Buck Tue, May 26, 2009 9:09:40am |
| 948 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:10:42am |
| 949 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:11:46am |
re: #943 sattv4u2
Sorry Real. but we'll have to agree to disagree. "Underemployment" is one of those feel good phrases the liberals trot out to denegrate capitilism. If I was trained as a blacksmith and I lived in Boston I have 3 choices
MOVE to someplace that NEEDS blacksmiths
RETRAIN to something that needed in Boston
ALLOW the gov't to take care of meWhere the notion came that when one reaches a certain income level they must be gaurunteed to stay there is a mystery to me
Or find someplace in Boston that did need a blacksmith. (Or nearby Boston.)
Go 30 miles out and there are several; 40-50 miles out and there are even more. Plus, houses are a lot cheaper and you could commute by horse.
| 950 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:11:51am |
re: #919 Killgore Trout
Um, well
"With respect to Guantanamo," Petraeus added, "I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the Attorney General the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward. But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."
[emphasis added, realwest]
Why would that upset some people - I mean, other than the 90+ US Senators who voted against Obama's desire to release the Gitmo detainees?
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turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:11:57am |
re: #918 yma o hyd
Help!
Is he serious? Is this serious science?
Professor Steven Chu: paint the world white to fight global warming
Although I haven't run through any numbers I think it would in reality "work" to reduce temperature. Someday we will have cheap and efficient solar power thanks to nanotechnology. It will be possible to pave roads with them and supply the worlds demands for electricity.
| 952 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:12:01am |
re: #945 jcm
We've deferred solving the NorKo problem for so long because it's hard. Now it's damn near impossible.
Your right, not much any admin can do barring Casus Belli.
Wasn;t he Don Corleonis enforcer?
///
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:12:20am |
re: #944 Honorary Yooper
It might reduce the AC loading a little, but the winter heating loading would more than make up for that, and vice versa with a black instead of white roof. Again, proper insulation is a better option for reducing both heating and cooling loads than paint.
Also - the heat reflection would be hottest the closest to the white surface, disspiating away.
I remember being in a whie painted arena in Spain once (no, not a bull fight, just a Fiesta!) - the heat inside, from those reflecting walls, was unbearable.
Thus any pale roads would make pedestrians very uncomfortable in the heat, and the cars would need to use even more energy for air conditioning ...
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Honorary Yooper Tue, May 26, 2009 9:12:52am |
re: #946 KenJen
I believe it. I've also noticed people who do not like dogs tend to be jerks.
They do? That's odd considering that I know quite a few dog owners who are jerks. My wonderful neighbor lets his two dogs crap and run all over the neighborhood, and refuses to obey the local leash and fence laws.
| 955 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:12:54am |
re: #946 KenJen
I believe it. I've also noticed people who do not like dogs tend to be jerks.
Ain't that the truth!
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midwestgak Tue, May 26, 2009 9:12:56am |
re: #931 sattv4u2
Welcome Gal.
Did you stick around long enough to see my response to your #342 from yesterdays Colin Powelll thread?
You remember how I got my nic too? Yes, I read your response. We'll see.
{sattv}
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avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:13:01am |
re: #919 Killgore Trout
This is going to upset some people....
Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture
Let's see if Rush throws Petraeus under the bus too.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:13:25am |
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 9:13:37am |
re: #938 Kenneth
Fine, please comment on Obama's NoKo policy or lack of it.
But the fact the CIA is sampling the air is not an Obama policy plank. It's standard intelligence gathering practice.
OK, then I guess he's doing even less than I thought.
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Buck Tue, May 26, 2009 9:13:39am |
re: #884 Spare O'Lake
So Obama's Nork policy now consists of smelling their fucking radioactive farts? That's just great!
Try and remember that NK let one rip during Bush 2. Sure it was a dud, but a test is a test. The Great Leader is not worried about anyones "policy". He is doing whatever he wants, pure and simple.
This started a long time ago, and anyone who wants to blame Obama for what NK does today is forgetting the past...
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:14:06am |
re: #956 midwestgak
You remember how I got my nic too? Yes, I read your response. We'll see.
{sattv}
K ,,,
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 26, 2009 9:14:32am |
re: #957 avanti
Crazy Pam is going to have a hard time with that one too.
| 963 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 9:14:40am |
Cognito's Last Meltdown, Part 3
Comment 440: MandyManners quotes a massively downdinged and very nasty comment that Cog posted in January as a way of calling attention to Cog's bad behavior.
Comment 447: Cognito says that Mandy took him out of context.
Comment 453: Dark_Falcon invites Cog to supply the context.
Comment 467: HoosierHoops warns Cognito about his present course and advises him to chill out.
Comment 472: Cognito again waves DF off.
Comment 475: Sharmuta calls Cognito on his refusal to supply context.
Comment 483: Cognito answers Hoosier with a big, fat, lie.
Comment 487: Sharmuta calls Cognito on his BS answer to Hoosier.
Comment 526: buzzsawmonkey puts in a conciliatory comment in an attempt to cool things down.
Comment 541: Cognito answers BSM with a snarky comment.
to be concluded in part 4.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 9:14:57am |
re: #940 Russkilitlover
Well, to look at the situation honestly, what would/could a different admin have done? What options do we have? Blockade? That's an act of war. Sanctions? Doesn't affect them.
Blockade and sanctions sounds good to me.
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avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:14:59am |
re: #942 yma o hyd
re: #925 Honorary Yooper
Yeah - but it only reflects abck into the atmosphere, doesn't it - not into space - so it should rais the greenhouse temperatures, shouldn't it?
And wouldn't it be better to actually use the warmth inside the buildings, to generate eelctricity?
No. just like the ice sheets, the more light reflected back toward space does reduce the earth's temp. My only question is how tiny the effect would be.
Insulation is also much more useful in northern climes - we don't have hot sunshine all year round!
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:15:00am |
re: #951 turn
Although I haven't run through any numbers I think it would in reality "work" to reduce temperature. Someday we will have cheap and efficient solar power thanks to nanotechnology. It will be possible to pave roads with them and supply the worlds demands for electricity.
Hiya, {turn}!
Solar power - ahem, not in the UK, I don't think ...
:-)
| 967 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:15:06am |
re: #932 yma o hyd
For dog lovers and dog owners:
Canine emotions raise theological questions
Dunno about 'theological' - but someone once said that it was actually the dogs who domesticated man ...
Anyone who has a dog knows dogs exhibit empathy.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:15:21am |
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:15:38am |
re: #957 avanti
Let's see if Rush throws Petraeus under the bus too.
He wants to close it "responsibly" so I suspect Rush will not throw him under the bus. The difference between Patreus and Obama in regards to the closure is the aforementioned word; "RESPONSIBLY".
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turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:16:44am |
re: #932 yma o hyd
For dog lovers and dog owners:
Canine emotions raise theological questions
Dunno about 'theological' - but someone once said that it was actually the dogs who domesticated man ...
heh. You might think I'm crazy but when I get home from work I ask my dog if he's been a good boy today. I think he actually knows what that means.
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:17:30am |
re: #954 Honorary Yooper
They do? That's odd considering that I know quite a few dog owners who are jerks. My wonderful neighbor lets his two dogs crap and run all over the neighborhood, and refuses to obey the local leash and fence laws.
He's not a dog owner. Those dogs own him.
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:18:06am |
re: #967 Kosh's Shadow
Anyone who has a dog knows dogs exhibit empathy.
Yep - and hope!
Big Dog always followed me into the kitchen when I was cooking - he was always hopeful that some little titbit might possibly find its way into his mouth ...
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midwestgak Tue, May 26, 2009 9:19:04am |
re: #935 jcm
If all else fails the last Mac version of IE.
The web site spefically says, don't expect results if you use Foxfire or Mozilla or Safari. I put a call into the phone number given. Got voice mail. I will go the physical location tomorrow. Arg, again.
Thanks for the suggestions. jcm
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 9:19:27am |
re: #960 Buck
Try and remember that NK let one rip during Bush 2. Sure it was a dud, but a test is a test. The Great Leader is not worried about anyones "policy". He is doing whatever he wants, pure and simple.
This started a long time ago, and anyone who wants to blame Obama for what NK does today is forgetting the past...
Yes, Clinton and Bush both failed miserably.
But Obama is now responsible for US policy, and he must play the cards he has been dealt.
Talking up a storm and then doing nothing is not a good policy.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 26, 2009 9:19:27am |
re: #943 sattv4u2
Oh! If you were trained as a blacksmith! I thought you'd said you were trained as a blacksmith. I thought you were a smithy! Thought, that's an interesting career change.
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JohnnyReb Tue, May 26, 2009 9:20:00am |
re: #960 Buck
Try and remember that NK let one rip during Bush 2. Sure it was a dud, but a test is a test. The Great Leader is not worried about anyones "policy". He is doing whatever he wants, pure and simple.
This started a long time ago, and anyone who wants to blame Obama for what NK does today is forgetting the past...
I honestly don't think most people are blaming him for the past (at least not me), what I suspect they are blaming him for is his lack of a firm response to a NUCLEAR armed North Korea. Going golfing after a weak statement is not conducive to calming your countries nerves after they popped a Nuke.
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turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:20:16am |
re: #942 yma o hyd
re: #925 Honorary Yooper
Yeah - but it only reflects abck into the atmosphere, doesn't it - not into space - so it should rais the greenhouse temperatures, shouldn't it?
And wouldn't it be better to actually use the warmth inside the buildings, to generate eelctricity?
Insulation is also much more useful in northern climes - we don't have hot sunshine all year round!
No it's reflected out to space, it would work to some degree.
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avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:21:00am |
re: #969 Jetpilot1101
He wants to close it "responsibly" so I suspect Rush will not throw him under the bus. The difference between Patreus and Obama in regards to the closure is the aforementioned word; "RESPONSIBLY".
True, but the conservatives have been hammering the theme that it's a perfectly good prison, and there is no need to close it. When someone like Patreus agrees with both Mccain and BHO that it needs to be closed, that is no small deal IMHO. I think we can all agree, if it's closed, BHO has to have a plan B for the prisoners.
| 980 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 9:21:24am |
re: #972 Kosh's Shadow
He's not a dog owner. Those dogs own him.
Just like in Soviet Russia!
-Y. Smirnov
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OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:21:35am |
re: #962 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam is going to have a hard time with that one too.
I still haven't been able to find anything in the Geneva Conventions that cover ununiformed irregular combatants not openly carrying arms.
And in all the smack about Geneva Conventions, no one seems to mention that they were written to cover more-or-less "conventional" combat along the lines of WW2.
But I am not the world's foremost expert on diplomatic legalese, and perhaps I have missed something important.
However, I am willing to go along with Petraeus' advice if that is indeed the case (a post at HuffPoo is low on my list of sources), and would be MOST INTERESTED in two things:
(a) Where he would put the Gitmoites and
(b) When I can expect the "Gen. Betray Us" crowd to kiss his ass in apology, as would be required were the situation reversed.
/assuming it's true
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jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 9:21:49am |
re: #974 midwestgak
The web site spefically says, don't expect results if you use Foxfire or Mozilla or Safari. I put a call into the phone number given. Got voice mail. I will go the physical location tomorrow. Arg, again.
Thanks for the suggestions. jcm
Try the IE 5.2......
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:21:49am |
re: #971 turn
heh. You might think I'm crazy but when I get home from work I ask my dog if he's been a good boy today. I think he actually knows what that means.
He certainly does!
I found that living with dogs really teaches one a whole new language, one that wolves used and still use: all the very subtle facial expressions and very subtle body language one picks up from one's dogs ...
| 984 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:22:00am |
re: #943 sattv4u2
SIGH. One. More. Time. I never said anyone is guaranteed anything. What I said was it's deceptive to say unemployment is going up when you are replacing higher paying jobs with dramatically lower paying jobs. And while no one guaranteed it, try explaining it to your mortgage lender your way, lemme know how that works out for you, ok? And your kid's university. And the dentist, et.al. If you're under 40 you may be right - travel to where the jobs are - like in California where it's been reported that 3,000 adults are leaving the state every day, or Michigan or Ohio or Pennsylvania or NY or Maine, etc.
And all the "green jobs" that Obama is promising will come along any day now, will either pay that $40k a year or require you to go back to school, full time and get a degree in environmental science - try doing that while trying to raise a family.
This is, btw, typical Obama - Street corner, 3 card monte dealer............LOOK WHAT'S THAT OVER THERE?!
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OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:22:05am |
re: #966 yma o hyd
Hiya, {turn}!
Solar power - ahem, not in the UK, I don't think ...
:-)
FOG POWER!
/
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MandyManners Tue, May 26, 2009 9:22:18am |
I noted somewhere this morning that Rove says we have two steps from a UN resolution in 2006 that we can take. One is to get China to stop supplying oil to the North Koreans and another is to interdict all of their ships.
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, May 26, 2009 9:22:45am |
Øbama needs fulfill his promise to the loony left, so Gitmo will close. Since Petraeus will require Øbama's support for his plans in the ME, he needs back Øbama on this.
| 988 |
irongrampa Tue, May 26, 2009 9:23:13am |
re: #955 yma o hyd
Often said that humans could take lessons from dogs about friendship and loyalty.
| 989 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:23:22am |
re: #979 avanti
True, but the conservatives have been hammering the theme that it's a perfectly good prison, and there is no need to close it. When someone like Patreus agrees with both Mccain and BHO that it needs to be closed, that is no small deal IMHO. I think we can all agree, if it's closed, BHO has to have a plan B for the prisoners.
No, let's just let them all go and fuggedaboudit. It was a misunderstanding, a mistake. Forgiveness abounds ... after all, none of the other released guys ever did anything, right?
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Buck Tue, May 26, 2009 9:23:50am |
re: #977 JohnnyReb
I honestly don't think most people are blaming him for the past (at least not me), what I suspect they are blaming him for is his lack of a firm response to a NUCLEAR armed North Korea. Going golfing after a weak statement is not conducive to calming your countries nerves after they popped a Nuke.
Again.... and what exactly did Bush do when the first test was done? What can the USA do? Seriously nothing. More sanctions? China knows that if living in NK gets any worse they will see a flood of refugees on their border. Invade? Nobody wants that...
Fact is that until CHINA thinks something has to be done, nothing will be done.
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avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:24:21am |
re: #977 JohnnyReb
I honestly don't think most people are blaming him for the past (at least not me), what I suspect they are blaming him for is his lack of a firm response to a NUCLEAR armed North Korea. Going golfing after a weak statement is not conducive to calming your countries nerves after they popped a Nuke.
I don't fault the POTUS for a round of golf on Memorial day after all the morning speeches. Running back to the WH on the holiday would just give that little shit in North Korea more attention then he deserves.
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:24:22am |
re: #978 turn
No it's reflected out to space, it would work to some degree.
Not where there are clouds.
You can see that on the weather forecasts, especially in winter, where cloud cover makes for up to 5 centigrades difference in warmth at night.
Clear skies usually mean frost.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:24:33am |
re: #979 avanti
True, but the conservatives have been hammering the theme that it's a perfectly good prison, and there is no need to close it. When someone like Patreus agrees with both Mccain and BHO that it needs to be closed, that is no small deal IMHO. I think we can all agree, if it's closed, BHO has to have a plan B for the prisoners.
Just because Patreus is a good General, that does not make him an expert on what I consider to be a "Political" issue. If the Democrats hadn't made this an issue for "Political " reasons, we would not be having this discussion today.
| 994 |
Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 9:24:44am |
re: #985 OldLineTexan
FOG POWER!
/
I once saw a bank of fog in Scotland that, I swear, seemed like a living entity poised for world conquest. It was quite impressive.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:01am |
re: #984 realwest
try explaining it to your mortgage lender your way, lemme know how that works out for you, ok? And your kid's university
go to my #948 and sigh some more
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turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:13am |
re: #966 yma o hyd
Hiya, {turn}!
Solar power - ahem, not in the UK, I don't think ...
:-)
{yma}
Hey was that true about your hands telling the weather over there?
| 997 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:15am |
re: #903 sattv4u2
Having your income cut from 100K to 40K is NOT the end of the world
Been there, Done that, (a couple of times, actually) Got the T Shirt
Just because at one time in your life you were at XXX salary does NOT mean you ALWAYS have to be at XXX level
Depends on where you live.
We have cheap housing for Mass (40 miles out of Boston); roughly $1000/mo.
Add the state required health insurance for two, another $1000/mo.
That gets us to $24,000. After taxes, that probably leaves $6000 PER YEAR for food, transportation, electricity, heat, phone (can't find a job without a phone), etc.
| 998 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:39am |
re: #945 jcm
We've deferred solving the NorKo problem for so long because it's hard. Now it's damn near impossible.
Your right, not much any admin can do barring Casus Belli.
Spot on my friend. Although I do think China is the key here; if China wanted to, it could restrain NORK.
Other than that, it's work secretly with North Koreans to effect regime change (and it won't take a lot of money, I hear they'll work for food.).
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Occasional Reader Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:47am |
re: #986 MandyManners
I noted somewhere this morning that Rove says we have two steps from a UN resolution in 2006 that we can take. One is to get China to stop supplying oil to the North Koreans and another is to interdict all of their ships.
And of course, the Norks would promptly threaten war in either event, and the "world community" would promptly back down. [sigh]
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:50am |
| 1001 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:50am |
re: #918 yma o hyd
Help!
Is he serious? Is this serious science?
Professor Steven Chu: paint the world white to fight global warming
RACIST!
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OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:51am |
re: #994 Occasional Reader
I once saw a bank of fog in Scotland that, I swear, seemed like a living entity poised for world conquest. It was quite impressive.
As was Adrienne Barbeau ...
/don't go into the fog
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 26, 2009 9:25:52am |
re: #990 Buck
Again.... and what exactly did Bush do when the first test was done? What can the USA do? Seriously nothing. More sanctions? China knows that if living in NK gets any worse they will see a flood of refugees on their border. Invade? Nobody wants that...
Fact is that until CHINA thinks something has to be done, nothing will be done.
That, my friend, is a concession of defeat.
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Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:26:10am |
re: #991 avanti
I don't fault the POTUS for a round of golf on Memorial day after all the morning speeches. Running back to the WH on the holiday would just give that little shit in North Korea more attention then he deserves.
He could have gone to Walter Read and Bethesda?
| 1006 |
debutaunt Tue, May 26, 2009 9:26:15am |
re: #949 Kosh's Shadow
Or find someplace in Boston that did need a blacksmith. (Or nearby Boston.)
Go 30 miles out and there are several; 40-50 miles out and there are even more. Plus, houses are a lot cheaper and you could commute by horse.
hhahahaahahahahhahahahaahaaa
| 1007 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:26:37am |
re: #973 yma o hyd
Yep - and hope!
Big Dog always followed me into the kitchen when I was cooking - he was always hopeful that some little titbit might possibly find its way into his mouth ...
They all channel the Taco Bell Chihuahua. They sit and look at me with the look that says:
Drop the [whatever you're holding].
| 1008 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:26:50am |
re: #998 realwest
Spot on my friend. Although I do think China is the key here; if China wanted to, it could restrain NORK.
Other than that, it's work secretly with North Koreans to effect regime change (and it won't take a lot of money, I hear they'll work for food.).
I saw some of them on the Cross Bronx Yesterday?
| 1009 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:26:57am |
re: #988 irongrampa
Often said that humans could take lessons from dogs about friendship and loyalty.
Exactly!
And unconditional love - and forgiveness.
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turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:27:13am |
re: #967 Kosh's Shadow
Anyone who has a dog knows dogs exhibit empathy.
It doesn't take much for me to scold my dogs for being bad, just a harsh word to one of them and all their feelings get hurt.
| 1011 |
JacksonTn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:27:33am |
re: #1002 OldLineTexan
As was Adrienne Barbeau ...
/don't go into the fog
OLT ... DON'T EVER LEAVE THE BOAT! ...
no connection ... just love to say that ...
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jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 9:27:42am |
re: #998 realwest
Spot on my friend. Although I do think China is the key here; if China wanted to, it could restrain NORK.
Other than that, it's work secretly with North Koreans to effect regime change (and it won't take a lot of money, I hear they'll work for food.).
China is the key.
It's very hard to run ops of any kind in NorKo. Even the SouKo's stick out, literally, they're on average 5 inches taller than the Norks.
| 1013 |
turn Tue, May 26, 2009 9:28:29am |
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:28:32am |
re: #996 turn
{yma}
Hey was that true about your hands telling the weather over there?
Well - it was much colder today than yesterday, and my hands did hurt more, even before I went out.
(And no, I haven't done anything in my garden, at all!)
| 1015 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:28:35am |
re: #963 Dark_Falcon
Um, my friend, don't you have anything better to do than to track down the comments of a serial banned poster? Seriously - you make valued comments out here on a lot of topics and frankly I think you're kinda wasting your time with Cognito's banning.
Just sayin' this as your friend.
| 1016 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:28:44am |
re: #1001 Ward Cleaver
RACIST!
Actually, some kid came up with a heat-collecting or reflecting roof based on the sun's angle. There might be something to it ... aren't adobes desirable in the Southwest in part due to the color reflecting some of the light/heat bandwidths? That and the thick walls.
| 1017 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:29:12am |
re: #987 unrealizedviewpoint
Øbama needs fulfill his promise to the loony left, so Gitmo will close. Since Petraeus will require Øbama's support for his plans in the ME, he needs back Øbama on this.
I have more respect for Petraeus then to believe he would not speak his mind truthfully on a issue like this. He does not seem to be the kind of soldier that would be a lap dog for any politician. If he did not feel strongly on the issue, why not say "Gitmo's status is up to the POTUS" and not lean either way.
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LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 9:29:28am |
re: #988 irongrampa
Often said that humans could take lessons from dogs about friendship and loyalty.
I've often said that I prefer the company of dogs to people. Not completely serious but I do have thought like that sometimes. Dogs are not devious or deceitful, they don't have hidden agenda's. They are open and hoenst and predictable. And I love them for that.
| 1019 |
sattv4u2 Tue, May 26, 2009 9:29:29am |
re: #997 Kosh's Shadow
With all due respect, in one 18 month period back 12 years ago, I moved from Boston to Greensboro North Carolina, back to Boston then to Atlanta all for work!
That wasn't the 1st time I relocated because of employment, but it illustrates what has to be doen sometimes
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OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:29:55am |
re: #1012 jcm
China is the key.
It's very hard to run ops of any kind in NorKo. Even the SouKo's stick out, literally, they're on average 5 inches taller than the Norks.
And NEVER have sex in a deserted summer camp. EVER.
/
| 1021 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:30:34am |
re: #1006 debutaunt
hhahahaahahahahhahahahaahaaa
I did forget the sarc tag; glad you thought it was funny.
BTW, there are horses out where I live. Some for ritzy show; some for plain riding.
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yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:30:45am |
re: #1007 Kosh's Shadow
They all channel the Taco Bell Chihuahua. They sit and look at me with the look that says:
Drop the [whatever you're holding].
Aww - they need to practise the look that says 'I'm the last, totally starving dog in the universe - you cannot possibly mean to eat that yourself, can you?'
Big Dog had it down to a fine art!
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Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:30:57am |
re: #959 Spare O'Lake
It's hard to say exactly what he's doing. Most of it is going to happen behind closed doors. I'm sure the US & China are talking (and with Japan, South Korea etc). Obama does love to talk. Whether he can convince anybody to do anything remains to be seen. So far Obama is all talk and no **ck.
A military attack on North Korea is out of the question. It is not worth killing the millions who would die in another Korean War. Short of that: a blockade, trade sanctions, financial interdiction, cutting off food aid... all of these are being considered. Do you have any idea what will work? I sure don't.
Keep in mind, the US has very limited influence over what happens in North Korea. All the 6 party diplomacy talks were an effort to develop some kind of leverage on North Korea. Would direct 2 party talks work better? I doubt China or Japan or South Korea would be willing to let the US speak for them. So it goes...
| 1024 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:31:02am |
re: #1020 OldLineTexan
And NEVER have sex in a deserted summer camp. EVER.
/
Well if it was deserted, who did you have sex.........ah never mind.
| 1025 |
irongrampa Tue, May 26, 2009 9:31:30am |
re: #1010 turn
Reading that tells me you have at least ONE Lab--the ultimate in con artists, imho.
| 1026 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:31:31am |
| 1027 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:32:10am |
re: #1005 Nevergiveup
He could have gone to Walter Read and Bethesda?
He could work 24/7 and some would still complain. Most POTUS's play a round of golf now and then, and good for them.
| 1028 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:32:39am |
re: #1010 turn
It doesn't take much for me to scold my dogs for being bad, just a harsh word to one of them and all their feelings get hurt.
Yep - dogs don't like that at all - nor any shouting.
I've been learning not to shout at myself when things go wrong, because Madame thinks I'm cross with her, and slinks out ...
| 1029 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:32:50am |
re: #1018 LGoPs
I've often said that I prefer the company of dogs to people. Not completely serious but I do have thought like that sometimes. Dogs are not devious or deceitful, they don't have hidden agenda's. They are open and hoenst and predictable. And I love them for that.
Well, one of our dogs is a sneak. He's a toy poodle, and will hide on the other side of a table where there's food, so he can't be seen while he sneaks the food.
| 1030 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 9:33:02am |
re: #979 avanti
EVERYONE who's a leader in today's politics (regardless of party affiliation) -- From George W. Bush to John McCain to Obama says "Close Gitmo." Don't you follow the news? Don't you read the papers? Only a few -- a rare few -- have exhibited the courage to offer objections. One of those who objects is the prosecutor of the First World Trade Center Bombing back in 1993 -- he opposes treating terrorists as criminals or using American courts to put terrorists on trial. He sees grave harm occurring to the U.S. judicial system as a consequence.
| 1031 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:33:33am |
re: #991 avanti
I don't fault the POTUS for a round of golf on Memorial day after all the morning speeches. Running back to the WH on the holiday would just give that little shit in North Korea more attention then he deserves.
"...attention then he desires", I think you mean. And you are right. Publicly Obama is best to play this down. But in private diplomacy he had better be working on it.
| 1032 |
lawhawk Tue, May 26, 2009 9:33:35am |
re: #1017 avanti
Or, he's sufficiently nuanced to know that this is also about preserving the military's role to take prisoners on the battlefield, and saavy enough to realize that the media, left, and the President have smeared Gitmo with a broad brush, and it does have an effect on the military's ability to take prisoners on the battlefield - whether they're terrorists or uniformed soldiers.
He's threading the controversy so as to protect the institution of the US military, and as I noted above, he's provided a subtle dig at the President for not closing Gitmo in a responsible manner. Ordering its closure without first knowing where to put 'em isn't responsible.
It's the antithesis of responsible. Demanding that the detainees be brought into the US without a plan is irresponsible. Even Congress sees that. So, Petraeus is playing the Potomac two-step, and doing it quite well.
| 1033 |
LGoPs Tue, May 26, 2009 9:33:35am |
re: #1027 avanti
He could work 24/7 and some would still complain. Most POTUS's play a round of golf now and then, and good for them.
Seems to me all he does is appear on TV.
| 1036 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 9:34:18am |
Cognito's Last Meltdown, Part 4: The End of Cognito
Comment 604: Cognito issues his statement of beliefs regarding evolution.
Comment 611: Dark_Falcon praise cog's answer, hoping to end the confrontation.
Comment 621: Charles replies to Cognito, disbelieving his #604 and quoting a comment to bolster his case.
Comment 633: Cognito makes his final mistake. Ignoring all prior warnings, he posts a dismissive response to Charles.
Comment 643: Charles hurls aloft the great banstick Clue-by-Four and smotes Cognito deep into the earth.
Comment 647: Charles backhands Cog's defenders for falling for Cog's malarky.
Comment 677: Charles remarks about what Cognito did to anger him.
Comment 686: Dark_Falcon apologizes for his defense of cognito and offers his own view of Cognito's actions.
The End
| 1037 |
debutaunt Tue, May 26, 2009 9:34:27am |
re: #979 avanti
True, but the conservatives have been hammering the theme that it's a perfectly good prison, and there is no need to close it. When someone like Patreus agrees with both Mccain and BHO that it needs to be closed, that is no small deal IMHO. I think we can all agree, if it's closed, BHO has to have a plan B for the prisoners.
Obama needs a Plan B well before closing Gitmo.
| 1038 |
yma o hyd Tue, May 26, 2009 9:34:43am |
Speaking of dogs - its dinner time for Madame, as she is making abundantly clear to me!
BBIAB!
| 1040 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:35:07am |
re: #1023 Kenneth
It's hard to say exactly what he's doing. Most of it is going to happen behind closed doors. I'm sure the US & China are talking (and with Japan, South Korea etc). Obama does love to talk. Whether he can convince anybody to do anything remains to be seen. So far Obama is all talk and no **ck.
A military attack on North Korea is out of the question. It is not worth killing the millions who would die in another Korean War. Short of that: a blockade, trade sanctions, financial interdiction, cutting off food aid... all of these are being considered. Do you have any idea what will work? I sure don't.
Keep in mind, the US has very limited influence over what happens in North Korea. All the 6 party diplomacy talks were an effort to develop some kind of leverage on North Korea. Would direct 2 party talks work better? I doubt China or Japan or South Korea would be willing to let the US speak for them. So it goes...
An embargo; all ships searched; any missile components or bombs confiscated.
All luxury imports banned. No alcohol, tobacco, gourmet food, etc. Regular food, fine. No Viagra or porn. Kim Jong Il will have another stroke.
| 1041 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:35:32am |
re: #1023 Kenneth
OK, maybe, but who says millions would die in an other Korean war? And if N Korea sells Nukes to a few terrorists and they go off in a few Western Capitals or ignites a Middle East Nuclear War, then what is the cost in human lives? I am not dismissing the possibility of massive loss of life in any Korean conflict, just thinking about the costs of doing nothing for the future? Seems we have bad choices and worse choices ha?
| 1042 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 9:35:36am |
re: #970 UFO TOFU
OT
Any CA lizards familiar with this guy?
He sounds somewhat moderate, reading this post on Jack Kemp's passing.
| 1043 |
kansas Tue, May 26, 2009 9:35:57am |
| 1044 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:36:02am |
re: #1027 avanti
He could work 24/7 and some would still complain. Most POTUS's play a round of golf now and then, and good for them.
Not me, bubba.
If the king sleeps until noon, those are a few less hours the world is afflicted with him.
/
| 1045 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:36:14am |
re: #1023 Kenneth
I heard some suggest North Korea wants to earn "respect" as a nuke power to get the US's attention and one on one talks. so far, BHO has stuck to Bush'es six party deal, and I hope he continues to. I'd hate to see us give the little bastard any respect at all, unless he makes a lot of concessions.
| 1046 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:36:17am |
re: #1027 avanti
He could work 24/7 and some would still complain. Most POTUS's play a round of golf now and then, and good for them.
Yes and well he should if he enjoys it, but not sure Memorial Day was the day to do it?
| 1047 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:36:34am |
re: #991 avanti
"Running back to the WH on the holiday would just give that little shit in North Korea WHO NOW HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS more attention then he deserves.
FTFY!
I do actually agree that he shouldn't have interrupted his golf plans, but I sure as hell hope he's in contact with Pelosi and Kerry (who, last I heard, were IN China) to say something to China to attact their attention to OUR concerns about NORK.
| 1048 |
J.S. Tue, May 26, 2009 9:36:48am |
re: #1034 Iron Fist
Although, one correction needs to be made -- for the nth time -- it's NOT a "prison" camp (that's the language the al-Qaeda, and al-Jazeera people use). it is a detention facility.
| 1050 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:37:05am |
| 1051 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:37:17am |
re: #988 irongrampa
Often said that humans could take lessons from dogs about friendship and loyalty.
Fine, but I don't care how good a friend you are, I'm never going to sniff your butt, all right?
| 1053 |
Buck Tue, May 26, 2009 9:37:49am |
re: #1030 J.S.
EVERYONE who's a leader in today's politics (regardless of party affiliation) -- From George W. Bush to John McCain to Obama says "Close Gitmo." Don't you follow the news? Don't you read the papers? Only a few -- a rare few -- have exhibited the courage to offer objections. One of those who objects is the prosecutor of the First World Trade Center Bombing back in 1993 -- he opposes treating terrorists as criminals or using American courts to put terrorists on trial. He sees grave harm occurring to the U.S. judicial system as a consequence.
It is easy to say "Close Gitmo", it is harder to explain HOW.
| 1054 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:37:51am |
re: #1031 Kenneth
"...attention then he desires", I think you mean. And you are right. Publicly Obama is best to play this down. But in private diplomacy he had better be working on it.
Correct, he does not deserve a smoking turd. (well maybe a turd)
| 1055 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:37:52am |
| 1056 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 9:37:56am |
Re: Gitmo.
re: #1037 debutaunt
Obama needs a Plan B well before closing Gitmo.
Everyone should go up and read KB's #21.
re: #21 Killian Bundy
Obama and the 'South Park' Gnomes
[Video]
/heh
| 1057 |
debutaunt Tue, May 26, 2009 9:38:02am |
re: #1021 Kosh's Shadow
I did forget the sarc tag; glad you thought it was funny.
BTW, there are horses out where I live. Some for ritzy show; some for plain riding.
I liked the way horses fit into your blacksmithing scenario.
| 1058 |
Nevergiveup Tue, May 26, 2009 9:38:05am |
re: #1040 Kosh's Shadow
An embargo; all ships searched; any missile components or bombs confiscated.
All luxury imports banned. No alcohol, tobacco, gourmet food, etc. Regular food, fine. No Viagra or porn. Kim Jong Il will have another stroke.
I don't think Kim is in charge now. I think militant factions in Military have taken over decision making.
| 1059 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:38:31am |
re: #1052 Iron Fist
There is a section in the Geneva Convention for mercenaries. I think that would apply to Jihadi terrorists as well. They aren't always paid in actual money, but they are paid in "spiritual coin" as told by the various Jihadi Imams. 72 vrigins and all that happy horseshit.
Didja read the mercenary bit closely? Looked like a "not allowed" to me!
| 1061 |
irongrampa Tue, May 26, 2009 9:39:02am |
re: #1051 Kenneth
Most especially not after this weekend's culinary adventures.
| 1062 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:39:07am |
re: #1045 avanti
I heard some suggest North Korea wants to earn "respect" as a nuke power to get the US's attention and one on one talks. so far, BHO has stuck to Bush'es six party deal, and I hope he continues to. I'd hate to see us give the little bastard any respect at all, unless he makes a lot of concessions.
Others say he needed to prove his nukes work before he could sell them.
Now that's frightening.
| 1063 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 9:39:15am |
re: #1015 realwest
Um, my friend, don't you have anything better to do than to track down the comments of a serial banned poster? Seriously - you make valued comments out here on a lot of topics and frankly I think you're kinda wasting your time with Cognito's banning.
Just sayin' this as your friend.
I probably do. In retrospect, I could probably have kept my record to its fourth installment. Still, its done now. Cognito has his memorial here: An accurate account of his banning. I'm sorry it happened, but he deserved it. Having said that, I'll move on to other topics.
| 1064 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:39:48am |
| 1065 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:40:00am |
re: #1012 jcm
China is the key.
It's very hard to run ops of any kind in NorKo. Even the SouKo's stick out, literally, they're on average 5 inches taller than the Norks.
Oh yes, I agree. But I meant more like recruiting North Koreans to run the ops.
| 1066 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:40:14am |
re: #1047 realwest
"Running back to the WH on the holiday would just give that little shit in North Korea WHO NOW HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS more attention then he deserves.
FTFY!
I do actually agree that he shouldn't have interrupted his golf plans, but I sure as hell hope he's in contact with Pelosi and Kerry (who, last I heard, were IN China) to say something to China to attact their attention to OUR concerns about NORK.
I agree, ignore the Norks in public, work the back channels.
| 1067 |
Buck Tue, May 26, 2009 9:40:16am |
re: #1036 Dark_Falcon
Dark_Falcon apologizes for his defense of cognito and offers his own view of Cognito's actions.
The End
Feel better now? A bit of confession? You going to be ok now?
| 1068 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, May 26, 2009 9:40:40am |
re: #1016 OldLineTexan
Actually, some kid came up with a heat-collecting or reflecting roof based on the sun's angle. There might be something to it ... aren't adobes desirable in the Southwest in part due to the color reflecting some of the light/heat bandwidths? That and the thick walls.
I like adobe houses, because of the insulating value of the brick, and the general look of them. There are plenty of them in New Mexico that don't look like adobes, though, because they've had a pitched composition roof added, along with some kind of siding, like aluminum or vinyl. With those the only clue is the deep windowsills and door openings.
| 1069 |
UFO TOFU Tue, May 26, 2009 9:40:54am |
re: #1042 Ward Cleaver
He seems to answer most of the comments posted on his website. I might have to look around.
| 1070 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, May 26, 2009 9:41:49am |
| 1071 |
SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 9:41:52am |
re: #867 Kenneth
North Korea has both uranium 235 and plutonium. Mix a little plutonium into your U-235 & you get a bigger bang for your buck. I wonder if the US intelligence agency can sniff plutonium in air samples following NoKo's recent bomb test?
Most plutonium and uranium fallout is going to hit the ground fairly quickly. But byproducts of various types can easily be sampled; you don't even have to be nearby. Also, analysis of the seismic signature can reveal an awful lot about the bomb's design.
| 1072 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:41:59am |
re: #1068 Ward Cleaver
I like adobe houses, because of the insulating value of the brick, and the general look of them. There are plenty of them in New Mexico that don't look like adobes, though, because they've had a pitched composition roof added, along with some kind of siding, like aluminum or vinyl. With those the only clue is the deep windowsills and door openings.
I wanted a house made of straw bales, but these effing wolves kept hanging around, so I switched to sticks covered in bricks.
/
| 1073 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:42:16am |
re: #1041 Nevergiveup
So true. All choices are bad or worse... meanwhile Obama is thinking... "Now how can I make myself look good here?"
| 1074 |
OldLineTexan Tue, May 26, 2009 9:42:19am |
| 1075 |
jcm Tue, May 26, 2009 9:43:07am |
re: #1065 realwest
Oh yes, I agree. But I meant more like recruiting North Koreans to run the ops.
Norks can't leave to be recruited, we can't get officers in to recruit.
| 1076 |
realwest Tue, May 26, 2009 9:43:12am |
re: #1027 avantiGee, maybe he coulda asked some of the wounded Vets in those hospitals if they'd like to play golf with him.
/
| 1077 |
debutaunt Tue, May 26, 2009 9:43:22am |
re: #1043 kansas
Did I miss Plan A?
His Plan A was jumping the gun to please his slobbering followers.
| 1078 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:45:10am |
re: #1036 Dark_Falcon
I was about to defend Cog, until it was pointed out that I only knew his recent history. Still, he was not all bad for the time I interacted with him, he just should not have continued the contrary game with the Big Guy.
| 1079 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 9:46:16am |
| 1080 |
debutaunt Tue, May 26, 2009 9:49:05am |
re: #1056 jcm
Re: Gitmo.
In Gnome-speak, then, Mr. Obama's energy policy goes something like this: Phase One: Inaugurate the era of "green" energy. Phase Two: Overturn the first and second laws of thermodynamics. Phase Three: Carbon neutrality!
hahahahahahahahahahahhaaa
| 1081 |
avanti Tue, May 26, 2009 9:52:17am |
Petraeus Gitmo statement:
With respect to Guantanamo, I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the attorney general the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward.
But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees.
| 1082 |
Kenneth Tue, May 26, 2009 9:54:45am |
re: #1071 SixDegrees
Most plutonium and uranium fallout is going to hit the ground fairly quickly. But byproducts of various types can easily be sampled; you don't even have to be nearby. Also, analysis of the seismic signature can reveal an awful lot about the bomb's design.
That's true. The U-235 and plutonium would not drift far. But their would be traces of daughter isotopes from the nuclear reaction. The proportions of these isotopes would be a signature of the fuel used in the warhead.
| 1083 |
SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 9:55:42am |
re: #1023 Kenneth
It's hard to say exactly what he's doing. Most of it is going to happen behind closed doors. I'm sure the US & China are talking (and with Japan, South Korea etc). Obama does love to talk. Whether he can convince anybody to do anything remains to be seen. So far Obama is all talk and no **ck.
A military attack on North Korea is out of the question. It is not worth killing the millions who would die in another Korean War. Short of that: a blockade, trade sanctions, financial interdiction, cutting off food aid... all of these are being considered. Do you have any idea what will work? I sure don't.
Keep in mind, the US has very limited influence over what happens in North Korea. All the 6 party diplomacy talks were an effort to develop some kind of leverage on North Korea. Would direct 2 party talks work better? I doubt China or Japan or South Korea would be willing to let the US speak for them. So it goes...
A good analysis. The only real reason the US is involved is to provide the deep pockets required to fund all the promises of aid that past agreements have centered on.
It ought to be apparent to anyone by now that this latest tantrum is yet another round of the game that NK has been playing for years to shake down the West. He's hoping to reopen negotiations and extract yet another round of foreign (read, American) aid in return for yet another short suspension of his nuclear program.
Personally, I think it's time to call it quits. China has announced that they want to exert leadership over Asia. Let them. And make a loud public announcement to that effect. In particular, let it be known that we will treat this as an Asian problem - not a Chinese problem - and if that means Japan, for example, feels a need to expand it's national security forces, than so be it. The prospect of a nuclear-armed Japan, or even a Japan with a large, capable military, is not something China wants to deal with; it would much rather put it's foot down on Kimmy and squash him, and it can do that anytime it pleases. The US ought to consider just walking away and refusing to play this stupid game anymore. Have China put their money where their mouth is.
| 1084 |
SixDegrees Tue, May 26, 2009 9:57:26am |
re: #1082 Kenneth
That's true. The U-235 and plutonium would not drift far. But their would be traces of daughter isotopes from the nuclear reaction. The proportions of these isotopes would be a signature of the fuel used in the warhead.
I agree. For that matter, we probably have sampling teams close enough to detect even the primary elements. But it isn't really necessary.
| 1086 |
Red Pencil Tue, May 26, 2009 10:02:56am |
Orfannkyl submitted a link on Sotomayor & guns which --- IF TRUE --- is a little scary in terms of how this woman reads a constitution. According to this link, which --- please take with some salt, I have not confirmed elsewhere ----:
Sotomayor is a graduate from Princeton University, where her legal theses included Race in the American Classroom, and Undying Injustice: American "Exceptionalism" and Permanent Bigotry, and Deadly Obsession: American Gun Culture. In this text, the student Sotomayor explained that the Second Amendment to the Constitution did not actually afford individual citizens the right to bear arms, but only duly conferred organizations, like the military. Instead of making guns illegal, she argues that they have been illegal for individuals to own since the passing of the Bill of Rights.
[here's linky, may have posted without, sorry]
sotomayor on gun ownership
If --- IF--- she actually wrote such a thing with a straight face, and still defends it and doesn't dismiss it as a "youthful indiscretion" --- it IS possible she DID write this once but has matured, some people do --- she should not be permitted to serve as a judge in traffic court.
| 1088 |
lurking faith Tue, May 26, 2009 10:15:52am |
re: #979 avanti
True, but the conservatives have been hammering the theme that it's a perfectly good prison, and there is no need to close it. When someone like Patreus agrees with both Mccain and BHO that it needs to be closed, that is no small deal IMHO. I think we can all agree, if it's closed, BHO has to have a plan B for the prisoners.
Gen. Petraeus works for the President and is required to support the President's military policies publically, at all times. Regardless of his own personal opinion.
Military officers do not have the luxury of being able to express a personal opinion where the public might hear it.
And you know what? I would suspect that if an intelligent and normally well-spoken man like Petraeus can't make a tolerably coherent statement in support of a specific policy, he probably doesn't really truly think it's a good policy. IMHO.
| 1089 |
AFVetWife Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:02pm |
OK, I realize I'm late to the party, and have already posted on other threads - but I just wanted to report on the Memorial Day weekend. AFVet and I traveled to the Indy 500 without incident. Enjoyed driving around the city on Saturday, including a visit to Butler University, where he graduated (and was in AF ROTC). We actually got inside Hinkle Fieldhouse (featured in "Hoosiers"), and dropped by a bar called "Plump's Last Shot," owned by Bobby Plump's son. The race was nice, as those things go, although we got a bit toasted in the sun. Drive home started out bad in rain, but was mostly great. We passed the time on both drives by listening to an audio book and Sirius radio. Back to work for both of us tomorrow. Blessings and good health to all who post here!
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