Overnight Open Thread
A dog won’t bite if you beat him with a bone.
— Tom Waits
A dog won’t bite if you beat him with a bone.
— Tom Waits
4 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:07:23pm |
5 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:07:54pm |
OR...I meant OR...bad typing......
Should be working anyway....
8 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:09:19pm |
Filling out a bunch of applications for this week; three local companies, along with some in Montana, Iowa and Maine.
I made it through most of them without using too much whiteout.
14 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:11:55pm |
re: #7 coldwarrior
get back to work
Work is kind of fits and starts....either something needs done RIGHT NOW, or nothing is going on......
= )
15 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:12:04pm |
oh, whoever put me over 3000 + karma--thanks!
16 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:12:06pm |
re: #9 Sharmuta
UR STEELIN MAI ROOTEEN!
/
18 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:13:09pm |
re: #9 Sharmuta
What kind of bone?
rib bones..doggy treats, plus, that means the people get ribs....win/win
20 | coldwarrior Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:14:48pm |
21 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:17:16pm |
Got the dreaded #13 and the dreaded #17....
way to take one for the team.
23 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:17:58pm |
re: #21 Fenway_Nation
Got the dreaded #13 and the dreaded #17....
way to take one for the team.
must be your lucky day = )
24 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:19:02pm |
Bridgetender in Central California position available.....
Wonder if I should apply for that one, too.
25 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:23:09pm |
Union position....apparently enrollment in the Transportation Communication Workers of America is a must.
I could live without the Employee Free Choice Act hard-sell. For fuck's sake, I can't even listen to a ballgame without that being crammed down my throat.
26 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:23:57pm |
re: #25 Fenway_Nation
I haven't lived out that way in a long time, but isn't cost of living a little crazy?
27 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:26:00pm |
28 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:26:05pm |
re: #26 srb1976
Yes- and I don't see the situation improving much with the state teetering on bankruptcy.
29 | wiffersnapper Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:27:58pm |
I deleted a troofer and a ronulan from my friends list on facebook. yay!
30 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:30:12pm |
re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth
Wish I could see it, I miss out on most of the links when I follow along from work..... very strict filters
31 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:32:48pm |
re: #30 srb1976
You're not missing anything, really. It's one of those "Auto-Tune The News" videos. Marginally humorous, but they crack me up for some reason.
32 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:36:20pm |
re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth
I know what you mean...I find the oddest things hilarious sometimes.....
33 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:41:30pm |
BTW....are there any LNDT lizards who consider themselves an expert on the various unions? My limited experience with them has been fairly negative (picking fights with management at the worst possible time, walking away even when management offers most of what's being asked, possible sabotage, heated class warfare rhetoric....and Hoffa Jr. hanging out with the Krazy Kos Kidz doesn't help matters much, either).
I'd like to think that not all unions are shiftless bloodsuckers who have cast their lot with shrill America-hating leftists (Fraternal Order of Police or International Association of Firefighters, maybe?) and do their part to help safegaurd wages and benefits for American workers...but between the UAW and this full court press for Card Check, it's difficult for me to shed my negative and preconcieved notions.
Also, whenever I usually give somebody the benefit of the doubt, it usually comes back to bite me in the ass.
37 | Throbert McGee Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:46:42pm |
re: #9 Sharmuta
What kind of bone?
I will not make a "red rocket" joke.
I will not make a "red rocket" joke.
I will not make a "red rocket" joke.
I will not make a "red rocket" joke.
I will not make a "red rocket" joke.
I will not make a "red rocket" joke...
38 | mrshankly01 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:46:42pm |
beautiful night in central cali, how is the rest of the country
39 | Sharmuta Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:46:55pm |
Kidnapped Pakistani students rescued
Thank goodness.
40 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:47:23pm |
42 | mrshankly01 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:47:51pm |
re: #40 Fenway_Nation
good luck with the work hunt. took my wife 5 months out here.
43 | srb1976 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:48:13pm |
re: #40 Fenway_Nation
Looking for work.
/Well...I am at least. Can't speak for everyone else.
At work.....just having a slow night.....again.....
44 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:49:18pm |
re: #39 Sharmuta
I hope by 'rescued' the mean Commandos undertaking a daring and kick-ass rescue mission that caught the captors unaware (much like the Peruvians versus Tupac Amaru some 12 years ago) as opposed to simplying paying off the Taliban so they can re-arm.
45 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:50:31pm |
re: #42 mrshankly01
Yikes! And she's probably more qualified than I am.
46 | mrshankly01 Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:51:05pm |
re: #45 Fenway_Nation
lab tech for a university... was surprisingly a long time.
47 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:51:41pm |
Hot on the heels of the Kindle 2 release, the Kindle 3 is right around the corner.
/RIF
48 | Fenway_Nation Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:58:03pm |
re: #46 mrshankly01
Yep. Definitely more qualified.
The odd thing is that I managed to land a couple of temp jobs without even trying....
49 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:58:05pm |
50 | BignJames Mon, Jun 1, 2009 11:58:44pm |
re: #33 Fenway_Nation
I've worked at a couple union places......you/we pay for some ridiculous "work rules". I worked @ Newport News shipyard, I was
an electrician wiring/installing busses/breakers in distubution cabs. Some bolt hole didn't line up so I reamed it. Supervisor saw me and told me not to do it again...."That's sheet metal, you're an electrician....next time call the sheet metal shop. "Next time"
was about 10 minutes later...it took sheet metal about 4 hours to show up.
51 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:01:13am |
re: #50 BignJames
Heh- I've heard about 'letter-of-the-rule' work stoppages in places like Canada or Argentina. Seems almost like work stoppage by design...
52 | mrshankly01 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:04:52am |
night everyone. fenway, good luck in the job search.
53 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:05:42am |
54 | Syrah Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:05:43am |
Hi Sharm,
Here are two paragraphs out of the Introductory Chapter of T.E. Lawrence's The Seven Pillars of Wisdom.
All men dream: but nor equally, Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did. I meant to make a new nation, to restore! a lost influence, to give twenty millions of Semites the foundations on which to build an inspired dream-palace of their national thoughts. So high an aim called out the inherent nobility of their minds, and made them play a generous part in events: but when we won, it was charged against me that the British petrol royalties in Mesopotamia were become dubious, and French Colonial policy ruined in the Levant.
I am afraid that I hope so. We pay for these things too much in honour and in innocent lives. I went up the Tigris with one hundred Devon Territorials, young, clean, delightful fellows, full of the power of happiness and of making women and children glad. By them one saw vividly how great it was to be their kin, and English. And we were casting them by thousands into the fire to the worst of deaths, not to win the war but that the corn and rice and oil of Mesopotamia might be ours. The only need was to defeat our enemies (Turkey among them), and this was at last done in the wisdom of Allenby with less than four hundred killed, by turning to our uses the hands of the oppressed in Turkey. I am proudest of my thirty fights in that I did not have any of our own blood shed. All our subject provinces to me were not worth one dead Englishman.
55 | srb1976 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:14:13am |
re: #51 Fenway_Nation
Heh- I've heard about 'letter-of-the-rule' work stoppages in places like Canada or Argentina. Seems almost like work stoppage by design...
We've got a shop or two out this way that run....or don't run....like that.
It gets crazier when there's more than one union involved...
56 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:14:48am |
They're starting to come out of the woodwork down on the Terry thread...
57 | lobo91 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:15:28am |
re: #51 Fenway_Nation
Heh- I've heard about 'letter-of-the-rule' work stoppages in places like Canada or Argentina. Seems almost like work stoppage by design...
Canada or Argentina? Try Detroit.
The absurd work rules (something on the order of 2,000 pages) are one of the main things that drove GM into bankruptcy.
59 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:17:42am |
re: #39 Sharmuta
Kidnapped Pakistani students rescued
Thank goodness.
Good news although it sounds like the Taliban got to run away.
Whatever, glad the students are OK.
60 | BignJames Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:17:49am |
re: #55 srb1976
We've got a shop or two out this way that run....or don't run....like that.
It gets crazier when there's more than one union involved...
It was the same union...the Super. didn't want any trouble. Those cabs were for the USS Eisenhower.....ever wonder about those DoD "cost over runs"?
61 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:18:03am |
re: #57 lobo91
Canada or Argentina? Try Detroit.
Hey now! Canada and Argentina are industrialized developed nations with a high standard of living.
Detroit's......um.....well......er.....
62 | Syrah Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:20:12am |
re: #58 Sharmuta
Interesting.
I thought so.
Am I misreading this? Is that an expression of the unconstrained?
63 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:21:11am |
re: #50 BignJames
I've worked at a couple union places......you/we pay for some ridiculous "work rules". I worked @ Newport News shipyard, I was
an electrician wiring/installing busses/breakers in distubution cabs. Some bolt hole didn't line up so I reamed it. Supervisor saw me and told me not to do it again...."That's sheet metal, you're an electrician....next time call the sheet metal shop. "Next time"
was about 10 minutes later...it took sheet metal about 4 hours to show up.
I had a similar experience as an electrician. Plumbers had pipe stacked against where we were supposed to start installing EMT for sub-feeds to apartment clusters. I started moving pipe and was told to stop and find a plumber.
Two days later...
IMHO unions have outlived their usefulness.
64 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:22:54am |
65 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:26:14am |
66 | IslandLibertarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:26:15am |
re: #64 Fenway_Nation
Try sitting in on collective bargaining contract negotiations.
All your human-coworker-union-brothers become numbers and chips to be traded and counted and discounted.
Messy business.
67 | lobo91 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:26:30am |
I just joined the ranks of the unemployed, myself, since the Army decided it was too expensive to keep paying me.
I stop reading any vacancy listing that mentions union membership.
69 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:28:25am |
re: #68 redc1c4
Well....we (the people) own what....55% of GM?
UAW membership would be the next logical step.
70 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:29:18am |
re: #62 Syrah
I thought so.
Am I misreading this? Is that an expression of the unconstrained?
Sounds like it to me. He wanted to build a new nation, but it seemss to me they left off the essential foundational principles.
71 | redc1c4 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:32:12am |
re: #60 BignJames
It was the same union...the Super. didn't want any trouble. Those cabs were for the USS Eisenhower.....ever wonder about those DoD "cost over runs"?
no..... i just wonder how anything actually gets done.
72 | srb1976 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:33:54am |
73 | lobo91 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:34:34am |
re: #69 Fenway_Nation
Well....we (the people) own what....55% of GM?
UAW membership would be the next logical step.
60%, in return for $50 billion we'll never see again. And the Canadian people own another 12.5%, in return for $9.5 billion.
The UAW gets 17.5%, in return for...well, whatever it is they do, besides keeping them from building cars at a profit and funnelling cash to the Democrats.
74 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:35:13am |
re: #68 redc1c4
if "card check" passes, we will all wind up being UAW members.....
U Ain't W*rkin!
Sadly that's probably true. Unions (workers) had legitimate beefs in the past. I haven't seen on strike in the last 30 years that seemed justified based on the limited information that was available to me.
What they're expectations are lately seem kind of unreasonable to me.
Of course, I work in a non-union environment in a right to work state. My entire adult career has been at places where you could walk into work and be told 'that's all folks' and be laid off.
75 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:38:02am |
Remember when blue-collar union workers would beat the shit out of snivelling little America-hating trust-fund shitstains instead of selling their souls to them?
/Me neither...before my time.
76 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:39:11am |
re: #73 lobo91
60%, in return for $50 billion we'll never see again. And the Canadian people own another 12.5%, in return for $9.5 billion.
The UAW gets 17.5%, in return for...well, whatever it is they do, besides keeping them from building cars at a profit and funnelling cash to the Democrats.
I thought I heard something today where it was stated that GM would have those - what the hell are they, anyway? - large infusions of government TAXPAYER cash paid back by 2012 (IIRC).
Why would we expect that when they've been losing money for the last 6 years and are now going to be strapped with ludicrous mileage and emissions regulations?
I love they way that the lwas of physics are legislated. Hell, legislate me a warp drive! I'll vote for you again. I'll settle for a damn flying car!
78 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:44:32am |
re: #77 TheMatrix31
Mitt in 2012!
/I'll take the Church of Latter Day Saints over 0bama's 'God damn America' church.
79 | lobo91 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:45:06am |
re: #76 Van Helsing
I thought I heard something today where it was stated that GM would have those - what the hell are they, anyway? - large infusions of
governmentTAXPAYER cash paid back by 2012 (IIRC).Why would we expect that when they've been losing money for the last 6 years and are now going to be strapped with ludicrous mileage and emissions regulations?
I love they way that the lwas of physics are legislated. Hell, legislate me a warp drive! I'll vote for you again. I'll settle for a damn flying car!
Of course they're not going to pay that money back. They're also not going to be "temporarily" run by the government, at least not using any definition of "temporary" you'll find in a dictionary.
On the other hand, those claims are no less ludicrous than Obama's promise to provide health insurance to 47 million additional people, improve the quality of care everyone receives, while simultaneously lowering costs.
Even my dog doesn't believe that one...
80 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:45:28am |
Syrah- I recall a study from many years ago that showed different areas of the brain were triggered when comparing television to radio. My guess is reading may be near the radio area, or maybe a third place altogether, but in you listening to the book versus reading it, it's still better than video. It would be interesting though, to know the differences in all three. Earlier I linked a study that shows how television for babies can hurt their language development. I'm so glad I'm not beholden to that box anymore.
83 | Alberta Oil Peon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:50:16am |
re: #74 Van Helsing
Sadly that's probably true. Unions (workers) had legitimate beefs in the past. I haven't seen on strike in the last 30 years that seemed justified based on the limited information that was available to me.
What they're expectations are lately seem kind of unreasonable to me.
Of course, I work in a non-union environment in a right to work state. My entire adult career has been at places where you could walk into work and be told 'that's all folks' and be laid off.
That's why I like working in the upstream end of the oilpatch. No unions in sight, or on the site. Refineries are unionized, but not the drilling end, nor any of the service companies, so far as I know. Right now, things are very slow, a double whammy of spring breakup plus low gas and crude prices. There is downward pressure on wages, and on the day rate that I get paid (from some clients, at least). So I work fewer days, and maybe get paid less per day. But I still have work. If I were in a union, chances are we'd all be out on strike for some damfool reason, or else the union would ensure that only the guys who kiss the union rep's butt would be getting work.
84 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:56:03am |
re: #76 Van Helsing
Y'know....the rail industry's made significant strides on ways to improve fuel efficency and lower emissions with their motive power for the last 10 years. Also consider that railways are the most fuel efficient way to haul bulk frieght (per ton-mile) and a typical boxcar can take 3-5 trucks off the road.
But watch the 0bama administration decide that that isn't good enough and butt in with CAFE-like standards for locomotives....which by the way, will kill short-haul, reigonal and switching railroads who traditionally rely on secondhand motive power.
/He's already promised to undercut one significant source of traffic for the railways- coal.
85 | Syrah Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:58:20am |
re: #80 Sharmuta
Syrah- I recall a study from many years ago that showed different areas of the brain were triggered when comparing television to radio. My guess is reading may be near the radio area, or maybe a third place altogether, but in you listening to the book versus reading it, it's still better than video. It would be interesting though, to know the differences in all three. Earlier I linked a study that shows how television for babies can hurt their language development. I'm so glad I'm not beholden to that box anymore.
(Thinking aloud.)
When I read, I hear the narration and voices of the characters. I think that it may explain why auditory learning is similar to learning through reading. As far as the brain is concerned, the two may be much alike. What I think is most different is that when you read, you must focus more then when you are listening. When you are listening, your mind may wonder off on a thought and where a reader pauses his reading to think off topic, the listeners audio player keeps playing. Things can be easily missed in the audio that cannot be missed in the reading.
As for TV, I think it may be nearly useless as a learning tool. The images have a very strong emotional effect on the human mind. So much so that I wonder if it is of much use for conveying anything more then an emotional message. As a tool for shaping the way people feel about an issue, I think TV is extremely powerful. I just don't think it does much if anything to help people think more smartly.
And yes, it is good to be free of the controlling influence of the One-Eyed Living Room God.
86 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 2, 2009 12:59:20am |
87 | Syrah Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:01:37am |
Goodnight friends.
Keep cool heads.
See you all tomorrow.
89 | Syrah Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:03:18am |
90 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:09:43am |
Reading an article on GIjobs.com about the importance of cover-letters to potential employers. They're talking to the recruiters for nine different companies.
Three of them are from the railways- Amtrak, CSX and Union Pacific.
92 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:14:15am |
Even by LNDT standards it's pretty slow- is there some sort of kerfluffle downstairs?
93 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:15:52am |
re: #85 Syrah
It's a vast wasteland - Frank with the slime...
94 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:18:36am |
re: #92 Fenway_Nation
Even by LNDT standards it's pretty slow- is there some sort of kerfluffle downstairs?
I'm screwed for the next few days with a buttload of Finals stuff. Argh.
95 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:23:34am |
re: #84 Fenway_Nation
It's most amusing to watch the video where the One is touting clean coal as such a wonderful thing that we can do cuz we put a man on the man in less than a decade juxtaposed with the one where he says 'sure you can build a coal plant but the carbon costs will bankrupt the company.
Maybe 'amusing' isn't the correct word.
I'm also trying to figure out how health care costs have to be 'dealt with' before the economy can recover...
Shall we start a pool on whether the carbon tax, er cap and trade scheme gets voted into law?
Followed by the pool for how long it takes for the administration to notice that this has a 'disproportionate' effect on the poor and they'll need energy subsidies and I wonder who'll pay for that?
96 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:24:18am |
The Quiet Man was just on TV. :-) :-) :-)
/and Firefox is misbehaving :-(
97 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:26:21am |
re: #95 Van Helsing
It's most amusing to watch the video where the One is touting clean coal as such a wonderful thing that we can do cuz we put a man on the man in less than a decade
Don't ask, don't tell. ;-)
98 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:28:15am |
re: #95 Van Helsing
Yeah....I'm not sure if amusing is the right word either. Carbon Tax/Cap & Trade will prove to be an equal opportunity butcher of American enterprise.
99 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:29:21am |
re: #96 littleoldlady
Hiya LoL! Hope you can keep up with the breakneck pace of this morning's thread.
101 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:30:25am |
Fenway! :-)
Huh?
*picks head up from keyboard*
Did you say something?
103 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:31:46am |
re: #97 Fenway_Nation
Even preview isn't my friend. That should have been MOON. Man on the MOON.
*bangs head against wall - again*
104 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:33:49am |
Weren't we talking about that movie just last night?
Sharmuta! :-)
105 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:33:54am |
This probably isn't news to anyone but me, but I stumbled upon the perfect bookend to WorldNutDaily. Check out some of the posts about the Tiller murder on NewsBusters.Org. It's a freakin' right wing whinefest.
I do agree with what they said about the disproportionate amount of coverage of the Tiller murder compared to the young men shot (one killed) at the recruiting center by the prison Muslim convert, but the rest of the slant is somewhere between WorldNutDaily and freeper territory, with a lot of whining. Lots and lots of whining. Their depth of denial about the connection between the extremist pro-lifers and violence is very disappointing.
106 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:34:59am |
108 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:36:35am |
re: #103 Van Helsing
Even preview isn't my friend. That should have been MOON. Man on the MOON.
*bangs head against wall - again*
Yeah, but it was funnier the other way.
109 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:37:16am |
110 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:37:41am |
A little something for post #104re: #106 UncleRancher
... and IRS just reported revenues DOWN 30% (doh). Wonder how that could happen...
Future 0bama Cabinet Appointees?
111 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:38:30am |
re: #96 littleoldlady
Hello! Hopefully, I can tear myself away from the fun and games cleaning the spare room for some fruitcup tonight. Hard to guarantee anything, though. Last night I was terrorized by a mouse (my Jack Russell slept through the entire episode, under the blankets), and tonight I got these cool casters for one of the storage racks, so there's plenty of Very Import and Serious stuff to do.
112 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:39:42am |
re: #105 theheat
Yup, Newbusters isn't high on our recommended list... or, at least some of our lists. There are lizards who do link to newsbusters so there is cross over here.
113 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:41:23am |
re: #111 theheat
theheat! :-)
"I hate cleaning. You clean, clean, clean...and then six months later you have to do it all over again!"
/paraphrasing Phyllis Diller
;-)
114 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:41:46am |
re: #104 littleoldlady
Weren't we talking about that movie just last night?
Sharmuta! :-)
Or the night before that. Just recently, yes. I linked to pictures of Maureen O'Hara.
115 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:41:52am |
re: #112 freetoken
Aha, confirmation. Good to know it wasn't simply my knee jerk reaction to the crazy. My senses haven't left me completely, after all.
116 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:42:27am |
re: #107 littleoldlady
UncleRancher! :-) Howdy!
And another howdy to you, LOL! How's life treating you?
.
117 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:42:27am |
re: #111 theheat
I should send you my mouser, Valerie. She bites they little heads off and nibbles on they little feet.
118 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:43:24am |
Tamron! :-)
Things pretty much suck, but thanks for asking! ;~)
How's by you?
119 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:43:32am |
re: #113 littleoldlady
theheat! :-)
"I hate cleaning. You clean, clean, clean...and then six months later you have to do it all over again!"
/paraphrasing Phyllis Diller
;-)
I always thought Phyllis was about accurate when she said that. Mother corrected me.
120 | BignJames Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:43:42am |
re: #117 littleoldlady
I should send you my mouser, Valerie. She bites they little heads off and nibbles on they little feet.
And where does she leave the rest of 'em?
121 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:44:21am |
re: #113 littleoldlady
I love Phyllis Diller. And I hate cleaning. That room hasn't been touched, merely heaped more in, for months and months. Apparently, a mouse has decided to take up residence, and that;s totally creepy. If I see him again tonight I'm dragging to dog out of bed (she'll probably bite me) and putting her underemployed terrier butt to work.
122 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:45:30am |
re: #118 littleoldlady
Tamron! :-)
Things pretty much suck, but thanks for asking! ;~)
How's by you?
Dang. How do you do it.... Always so bright and chipper. Must be a certain brand of vitamins?
.
123 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:45:49am |
Interesting- the freepers have linked to the Dick Cheney/RINO video.
124 | laZardo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:46:13am |
Am not really surprised Dick Cheney finally came out (no pun intended?) in support of gay marriage given his family matters. His allegiance to the Bush Administration may have been what was holding him back on it.
Also, good afternoon.
125 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:46:21am |
re: #117 littleoldlady
My dog grabs them, shakes them, breaks their little necks, and then tosses them like toys. Thank goodness she doesn't eat them, since her second favorite pastime is puking on the rug.
Mouse guts. Ick.
126 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:47:39am |
re: #116 Tamron
Well, good I'd say. The young'ns are all busy for the summer already and the grass is growing and the livestock are happy. As they say it doesn't do much good to complain because half the people think you deserve it and the other half don't care. ;-)
It's always good to see you here of a morning.
127 | SixDegrees Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:50:07am |
re: #95 Van Helsing
It's most amusing to watch the video where the One is touting clean coal as such a wonderful thing that we can do cuz we put a man on the man in less than a decade juxtaposed with the one where he says 'sure you can build a coal plant but the carbon costs will bankrupt the company.
Maybe 'amusing' isn't the correct word.
I'm also trying to figure out how health care costs have to be 'dealt with' before the economy can recover...
Shall we start a pool on whether the carbon tax, er cap and trade scheme gets voted into law?
Followed by the pool for how long it takes for the administration to notice that this has a 'disproportionate' effect on the poor and they'll need energy subsidies and I wonder who'll pay for that?
Is there something wrong with nuke plants? They are the cleanest, most environmentally friendly source of energy, no matter how you calculate such things.
Burning coal will release far more radioactive material into the environment than a continent's worth of nuclear plants ever will, no matter how much 'scrubbing' you do.
128 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:51:19am |
re: #121 theheat
What is it with people and mice? They're tiny little things. I remember I was "summoned" with the kind of screaming reserved for dead bodies all over the place and when I got there "she" was up on the table and the poor mouse was on the floor in perfect health but petrified at the sound of the screaming. Couldn't move a muscle. I just picked the poor little thing up and put it outside.
129 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:51:45am |
re: #126 UncleRancher
Well, good I'd say. The young'ns are all busy for the summer already and the grass is growing and the livestock are happy. As they say it doesn't do much good to complain because half the people think you deserve it and the other half don't care. ;-)
It's always good to see you here of a morning.
Well, thanks for the vote. Hey, come visit Alaska if you need a change. We're just now heading into our best season, and this has been a great year so far. We're so isolated from you guys down in the 'Old Country' that we might as well be a separate country ourselves, for all it matters.
.
130 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:52:36am |
/what can I say? there's no other choice...
131 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:54:29am |
re: #120 BignJames
And where does she leave the rest of 'em?
You'll have to ask talloldman.
/me, I'm in the bathroom, gagging...
BignJames! :-)
132 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:54:32am |
re: #128 UncleRancher
Well, I'm not afraid of mice by any stretch. Unfortunately, they aren't very clean or tidy. I discovered a drawer in a dresser in the back room full of pieces of dog food Mr. Mouse had been hoarding. Conservatively, I'd say there was a pound of dog food, in all. And with the dog food, lots of mouse turds.
There's no upside to a drawer full of half-nibbled dog food and mouse turds. He's gotta go.
133 | srb1976 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:55:33am |
Yay! 2 hours to quittin' time, and only 2 more days til my weekend.... = )
134 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:55:40am |
Hey I LOVE Alaska. I could live there. I made a number of trips to see my late friend and fish with him and the gang out by Kodiak. It was an experience of a lifetime. My friend went to Alaska to help with reconstruction after the big earthquake of what was it about '62 and never found a good reason to come back home.
135 | srb1976 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:56:40am |
re: #132 theheat
We got a cat (an actual mouser too) and we set traps, still get mice every winter
136 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:57:32am |
re: #115 theheat
There are people here who really like Newsbusters. Usually though it is when Newsbusters becomes an outlet for another organization whose views resonate with a particular lizard. E.g. when the Heartland Institute wants to propagate a particular talking point they dump it through Newsbusters (among many other places.)
137 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:58:06am |
re: #132 theheat
Evidently a MomMouse used a box of rags for a nest in my heater room. When (finally!) I cleaned the space out I discovered it, and learned where Valerie was getting her supply of tasty little MouseBabies.
/a delicacy, donja know!
[shudder!]
138 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:59:53am |
re: #135 srb1976
We bought RatZapper, which is extremely satisfying. However, the problem is getting the mice to actually venture in. This mouse in the back room is a sly devil, and has avoided it long enough to stash about a pound of dog food, piece by piece. I have no idea how long he's been back there, but it's been awhile.
139 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 1:59:59am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!
141 | wiffersnapper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:00:43am |
Sprained my knee in basketball today. Didn't even realize it until a few hours after I got home. I was too busy working on the terrible cramp in my leg that ended my day of playing. Got hit in the knee playing post, but was able to walk it off and thought nothing of it. Crazy how these injuries sneak up on you.
Just thought I'd share that with you all.
142 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:01:12am |
re: #139 littleoldlady
Such a sweetheart, and right on time this morning I see.
144 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:03:19am |
re: #141 wiffersnapper
OY!
/it will get better.
//when you realize you're too old to take chances and stop playing... ;-)
145 | srb1976 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:03:57am |
re: #143 theheat
Ewwww. Cats are so heartless ;-)
But that's what makes them great to have around....Ours has been going out at night and leaving us a fresh mouse type thing on the porch every morning....just one, every day....
147 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:04:47am |
re: #139 littleoldlady
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Heh! Why is there ice cream in my fruitcup?
148 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:06:06am |
re: #146 Sharmuta
Firefox crashed - as expected - on the one machine that has a time lag, so I switched to the other machine. The early one.
/ever get the feeling you cannot win?
;-)
150 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:06:44am |
re: #138 theheat
Interesting behavior. That sounds more like a packrat than a mouse. No shiny objects in the mix?
151 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:06:56am |
152 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:06:57am |
re: #145 srb1976
I think cats are capable of killing more than one a day, but they know when they have a good thing at home. They space out the kills so you think they're necessary and on task. They figure one a day keeps a roof over their head. Cats aren't dumb.
153 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:07:24am |
155 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:09:38am |
re: #150 UncleRancher
Nope, just dog food. Thing is, I saw the little bastard three times last night. He ran out of the room for the kitchen three times, probably looking for more dog food. I've been covering the dog dish at night to thwart his efforts, but this is one fat, healthy, mouse. He should be a show mouse, he's so fat and glossy.
157 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:10:59am |
re: #151 littleoldlady
You've outdone yourself!
Ummmm... it's on your grocery bill....
/shuffles out of the kitchen...
158 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:12:03am |
Speaking of rats...there are a couple of rats-with-antlers grazing in my back yard.
/if I'm lucky, this isn't one of their Lets' eat the hostas! years.
159 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:13:11am |
re: #155 theheat
Remember that for the next Westminster Kennel Club Mouse Show.
160 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:13:33am |
re: #134 UncleRancher
Hey I LOVE Alaska. I could live there. I made a number of trips to see my late friend and fish with him and the gang out by Kodiak. It was an experience of a lifetime. My friend went to Alaska to help with reconstruction after the big earthquake of what was it about '62 and never found a good reason to come back home.
Yup -- I came up here to visit in 1967, and never went back.
.
161 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:14:36am |
re: #158 littleoldlady
Oh, that kind. They ate all my different kinds of iris $ I planted around our pond. And every different kind of mint. And the willow trees. Unfortunately, they're too big for the JRT to take down.
162 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:15:20am |
re: #158 littleoldlady
Speaking of rats...there are a couple of rats-with-antlers grazing in my back yard.
/if I'm lucky, this isn't one of their Lets' eat the hostas! years.
Throw rock at them.
163 | UncleRancher Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:15:49am |
Well Lizards, I'm going to have to turn in early. Lots of chores in the morning. Brush to cut, livestock to feed, hay to make, you know the drill.
Catcha farther up the creek.
164 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:16:42am |
re: #163 UncleRancher
Good night, and save all the best hay for me.
165 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:17:10am |
re: #158 littleoldlady
Are you sure it isn't Rugby The Cloverfield Monster?
166 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:17:24am |
168 | Throbert McGee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:21:18am |
re: #128 UncleRancher
What is it with people and mice? They're tiny little things.
Back when I lived in NYC with my ex-husbandoid, we had mice in our Brooklyn apartment. I wouldn't have minded the mice at all, were it not for their habit of hanging out in the gas oven to enjoy the warmth of the pilot light -- pissing and shitting whenever Nature called. Which meant that whenever the oven was turned on, the dried puddles of mouse-piss would heat up and start to emit a stink straight from Satan's bowels.
The mouse-turds left elsewhere in the apartment didn't bother me -- after all, we had a terrier who shed huge tumbleweeds of dog hair year-round, and who sometimes liked to lift his leg on the left front end of the living-room sofa. And my ex was pretty much the gay version of Oscar Madison. So compared with the mess generated by the two of them, the mouse-turds on the kitchen floor were nothing.
But the damn mice hadda go and piss inside my oven, thereby producing the above-mentioned Smell From Hell. So eventually it came to me putting out glue traps and not giving a damn about how inhumane they are.
169 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:25:22am |
re: #130 littleoldlady
/what can I say? there's no other choice...
That's a really good rendition. Lemme see now, what can I do in return....
How do these match your mood?
170 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:26:49am |
re: #168 Throbert McGee
It's funny how you can go from all animal lover, to Charles Bronson, once they start defecating and peeing on everything you own.
Hey, I'm there. It's a dog-eat-dog world, and my money's on the terrier.
172 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:27:40am |
re: #168 Throbert McGee
Throbert! :-)
One of the most unusual (and funny) remedies for mice in the kitchen came from my parents who, before leaving for a month in Florida, lined their dishwasher with aluminum foil.
According to mom and dad...Mice are afraid of aluminum foil.
/sure. everybody knows that! ;-)
174 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:28:54am |
re: #171 Fenway_Nation
Oh, now I get it. FWIW - I liked the Cloverfield movie. I thought it was a fresh approach for monster flicks, and I'm kinda hoping they'll do a follow-up without crapping all over the original.
175 | Throbert McGee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:29:20am |
re: #158 littleoldlady
Speaking of rats...there are a couple of rats-with-antlers grazing in my back yard.
Heh. My folks retired to Green Valley, AZ (Tucson area), and my mom's vegetable garden is constantly under attack by rats-with-piggy-snouts -- a.k.a. javelinas or peccaries.
(I think javelinas are fuckin' adorable, but then again, I don't have to put up with them.)
176 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:30:20am |
177 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:32:50am |
178 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:37:05am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Keep this in mind, littleoldlady, Protector of the Hostas:
Sometimes Bambi isn't so nice.
179 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:39:24am |
re: #176 littleoldlady
GOOD GRIEF! 7 years old?!
WOW!
Kinda thought you'd like her. Very inspiring kid. Musta been Shirley Temple in a past life, or something like that.
.
180 | sngnsgt Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:42:13am |
re: #145 srb1976
But that's what makes them great to have around....Ours has been going out at night and leaving us a fresh mouse type thing on the porch every morning....just one, every day....
Awww, now that's devotion. ♥
181 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:43:16am |
182 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:43:57am |
183 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:45:24am |
re: #168 Throbert McGee
Ever drown chipmunks? It works on mice too.
184 | Throbert McGee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:47:09am |
185 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:47:41am |
re: #181 littleoldlady
Dang. Well, it shows a deer attacking a hunter, and pretty much beating the tar out of him.
Sometimes they don't act like prey animals at all. Last summer I had one I was shooing off in the wee hours of the morning turn and chase me. I felt pretty dumb fleeing for the house in my jammies and flip flops, let me tell you.
186 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:47:51am |
re: #127 SixDegrees
Is there something wrong with nuke plants? They are the cleanest, most environmentally friendly source of energy, no matter how you calculate such things.
Burning coal will release far more radioactive material into the environment than a continent's worth of nuclear plants ever will, no matter how much 'scrubbing' you do.
Yes. The greens watermelons commie rat bastards don't like them because they're nukular or something.
/sarc
No. No reason to fear nuclear generating systems. Just amorphous feelings of fear that have to be cultivated.
Personally, I'd cultivate fear of what happens if we don't have inexpensive and abundant energy.
But what the hell do I know...
187 | Throbert McGee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:48:32am |
188 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:49:09am |
re: #185 theheat
That one shows up here, too!
/no fun having the neighbors pointing and laughing at you later in the day...
;-)
189 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:49:35am |
In the spirit of sharing...
Ice cream drumsticks on the sideboard, too.
Not trying to usurp LOLs spot...
190 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:51:23am |
Well, lizards....all this talk of dead rodents is making me hungry I could use some shuteye.
Weet dreams
191 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:52:29am |
re: #186 Van Helsing
Yes. The
greenswatermelonscommie rat bastards don't like them because they're nukular or something./sarc
No. No reason to fear nuclear generating systems. Just amorphous feelings of fear that have to be cultivated.Personally, I'd cultivate fear of what happens if we don't have inexpensive and abundant energy.
But what the hell do I know...
Have you ever heard of Energy From Thorium?
.
192 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:53:16am |
re: #184 Throbert McGee
Scrawny little thing. I bet he could barely knock over a split-level bungalow.
193 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:53:42am |
re: #188 littleoldlady
It's one of those things no one would believe unless they saw it. Most people would say, "Oh, deer would never chase people." Uh... wrong. The really like all that expensive iris and those willow trees, and be damned if they're going to lose their spot at the buffet for some lady in her pajamas. And this was a doe, too, not a buck.
194 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:54:33am |
Van Helsing! :-)
All food is welcome on the buffet.
/pretty much ;-)
195 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:55:23am |
Good Morning LGF.
The topic of this thread seems kind of ratical.
196 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:56:23am |
re: #190 Fenway_Nation
Goodnight. Weet dreams of rusty sleeper cars.
197 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:57:01am |
re: #193 theheat
Homer [crashing car into sculpture of a deer at a park]: D'oh!
Lisa [pointing from the backseat]: A deer!
Marge: A female deer.
198 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:57:31am |
re: #191 Tamron
Have you ever heard of Energy From Thorium?
.
Or, how's about the Pebble Bed Reactor?
.
199 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:57:36am |
re: #193 theheat
The doe are the worst. Probably her kids were nearby.
In my yard it's the apples from the apple trees. They stand under them and look up waiting for the apples to fall. No apples? No problem!
Oh look! Is that a pepper plant over there?
PRETTY impatiens! YUMMY impatiens.
Hosta salad, my favorite!
201 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:58:32am |
Man....I always tend to linger after bidding everyone goodbye.
202 | Van Helsing Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:59:46am |
re: #191 Tamron
I have.
Again, anything that has ANYTHING to do with radiation will stir up the anti (insert this weeks anti-energy group here) people. Even if they don't have a clue the way the courts are granting injunctions based on 'suppositions' rather than demonstrated effects, well, crap.
They make some seriously sub-optimal solutions.
203 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 2:59:47am |
204 | littleoldlady Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:01:24am |
Okay... End Animal Planet - Begin Laundry World.
/verybigsigh
Good day, ALL!™
205 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:01:53am |
re: #203 littleoldlady
Fine!
*prepare to floucne!*
*flounce preperations complete!*
*commencing flouncing!*
206 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:02:14am |
re: #199 littleoldlady
I sort of solved the deer problem at the pond by putting one of the horses out there.
The deer learned pretty quick "size matters". Plus, the horses don't like iris or willow trees, so the plants are safe. And horses really don't like sharing their space with deer. If I had the horse-chasing-deer on video, I probably could have sold the movie rights.
207 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:03:49am |
re: #187 Throbert McGee
How do you drown chipmunks?
Painter's bucket, about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water, cover the top of the water with sunflower seeds, and leave outside where the critters can get in.
They don't swim so good....
208 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:03:49am |
Then there's the Hyperion Nuclear Power Module, that's transportable by truck.
Hyperion has attracted a lot of attention from investors lately.
.
209 | theheat Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:04:08am |
Goodnight, All. I'm off to put shiny new wheels on my almost-rolling shelving units, and see if Mr. Mouse wants to come out of hiding and give the terrier the finger.
210 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:11:05am |
re: #199 littleoldlady
The doe are the worst. Probably her kids were nearby.
In my yard it's the apples from the apple trees. They stand under them and look up waiting for the apples to fall. No apples? No problem!
Oh look! Is that a pepper plant over there?
PRETTY impatiens! YUMMY impatiens.
Hosta salad, my favorite!
I fed a young bull moose a carrot out of my hand, right in front of my front door a couple of winters ago. He was tame and courteous, much like a horse. Big soft fuzzy rubbery lips. There's a lot of moose wandering around Anchorage, summer and winter.
Saw a couple of black bears the other day, about 15 minutes by highway from downtown. It's the grizzlies in town that are starting to be a bother.
.
211 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:14:16am |
re: #207 Sharmuta
Painter's bucket, about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water, cover the top of the water with sunflower seeds, and leave outside where the critters can get in.
They don't swim so good....
What kind of diving board?
212 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:18:48am |
re: #211 Spare O'Lake
What kind of diving board?
They'll jump in if they can reach the rim. They don't see the water under the seeds, so... I didn't like it, but they were destroying the garden. They had to go. The bucket was effective.
213 | Tamron Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:20:59am |
re: #207 Sharmuta
Painter's bucket, about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water, cover the top of the water with sunflower seeds, and leave outside where the critters can get in. They don't swim so good....
Hey thanks, Sharm. I'll give that a try out by the garden.
(Need a pretty big bucket to catch a moose, though......)
.
214 | Throbert McGee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:21:14am |
re: #192 Fenway_Nation
Scrawny little thing. I bet he could barely knock over a split-level bungalow.
I think that's why he was so keen to be reincarnated as a gigantic Godzilla knock-off -- it was some sort of Napoleon complex.
215 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:26:50am |
Action still down on the Terry thread...
/Why do they always come out at night?
216 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:27:41am |
It's pretty clear, btw, why abortion is not discussed here often.
218 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:33:12am |
re: #215 freetoken
Action still down on the Terry thread...
/Why do they always come out at night?
Because in the day, they are us. That's what's so frustrating. You hold a completely normal conversation with somebody who seems to be Okay, then when the chips are down, they go all Pam Geller.
219 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:35:42am |
Morning folks.
A quick question, is there anything that strikes you as peculiar about this statement made by Obama concerning his upcoming Thursday address?
“I want to use the occasion to deliver a broader message about how the United States can change for the better its relationship with the Muslim world,”
Maybe it's just me.
220 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:39:10am |
re: #218 haakondahl
Good Afternoon/Evening/Morning Haak!
You are so right. Heard a comedian once talking about NYC and how crazy some people are, and you just can't tell. Basically, if I recall correctly...
"You look around on the subway; there is a man with a business suit on, sitting up, good posture, briefcase on his lap. You turn to him and ask him if he knows what time it is and he says, (hugging the briefcase close) 'I must get this cheese to Washington!'"
221 | Scorch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:43:31am |
Morning all. Over the last couple of weeks we have finally received some much needed rain here in South Texas. Little late to help much on our crops but man it's good to hear thunder and see lightning again.
222 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:43:50am |
re: #125 theheat
My dog grabs them, shakes them, breaks their little necks, and then tosses them like toys. Thank goodness she doesn't eat them, since her second favorite pastime is puking on the rug.
Mouse guts. Ick.
When I was perhaps ten, Flint, my black Labrador, gingerly spit at my feet the present of my slobber-drowned white mouse Herman. Well, he *was* the senior pet, and rules are rules, I guess.
And he lived for about fifteen years. You won't get that kind of mileage out of a mouse anyway.
223 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:46:44am |
re: #218 haakondahl
Because in the day, they are us. That's what's so frustrating. You hold a completely normal conversation with somebody who seems to be Okay, then when the chips are down, they go all Pam Geller.
That's an apt way of putting it.
224 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:51:35am |
re: #213 Tamron
Hey thanks, Sharm. I'll give that a try out by the garden.
(Need a pretty big bucket to catch a moose, though......)
.
Do moose like sunflower seeds?
225 | Scorch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 3:53:27am |
re: #218 haakondahl
I'm more interested in the shooting at the Army/Navy recruitment center. Seems now it was a disgruntled convert to Islam. Who would of thought? Yes it is a bit of a weird statment aboo-hoo-hoo.
226 | Jim in Virginia Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:06:06am |
Morning all. I've seen serious speculation that L'il Kim's stroke has led to dementia, hence his recent aggressive stance. (Interesting argument: is Kim any crazier now than in the past fifteen years?) What if he decides to twist the tiger's tail, and launches an ICBM with a nuke which hits somewhere in the Aleutians?
There are casualties, but far fewer than on, for example, 9-11; there is "grave damage to a fragile ecosystem" (I can hear the CNN reporters now.)
What does Bambi do? Do we go to war over a few dead Aleuts and whales?
If Kim gets away with it, it's masterful marketing.
Or, what if his ICBM has a slightly longer range and decent targeting, and he hits Valdez?
227 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:06:41am |
The trouble with Cairo
by Irshad Manji
How will Obama reach out to Muslims while looking over his shoulder at his authoritarian Egyptian hosts?
Barack Obama has speech problems.True, he delivers a message mellifluously. But even before giving a major address to the Muslim world this Thursday, America's communicator-in-chief sounds confused.
Consider his choice of setting. Cairo, according to White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, “in many ways represents the heart of the Arab world.” Confusion No. 1: Arabs and Muslims are interchangeable.
...Perhaps all will be clear after the speech. Perhaps the alchemy of a silver tongue and sturdy teleprompter will bring into sharp relief the strategy crafted by a shrewd disciple of diplomacy. Perhaps.
228 | eon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:07:21am |
re: #219 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
re: #225 Scorch
Good morning, Lizards.
It's not any weirder than anything The One's idol, Carter, said about the MidEast when he was POTUS, or even down to the present day. And it makes perfect sense, if you assume (as both The Messiah and Rabbit Bait apparently do) that every problem in that region, and really everywhere, is All Our Fault.
Of course, if anyone were ever to confront either one and demand an explanation of "Just exactly how is a conflict that predates the existence of the United States, the British empire, and really everything except the Roman Empire 'our fault'?", they would get a lot of hemming and hawing, and (possibly) finally an admission that the pair of them believe that the real problem... is the fact that we exist. Or indeed that Western Civilization as a whole exists in the first place.
You're dealing with people who have made the classic "expert's mistake" of avoiding all the small errors while sweeping irresistibly onward to the grand fallacy. And they will never, under any circumstances, admit that their reasoning is flawed, and their conclusion incorrect.
Not that that would be anything new for either one.
/Yes, I got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, and my stupidity tolerance is at an unusually low ebb, even for me.
cheers
eon
229 | Dar ul Harbarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:08:50am |
Sudden Jihad Syndrome to account for the Arkansas recruiter murder?
230 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:09:15am |
re: #226 Jim in Virginia
Kim is not demented and he`s not going to hit the USA with his rocket. NoKo is chest thumping and advertising their product line. The missile will splash in the Pacific.
231 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:11:26am |
re: #85 Syrah
And yes, it is good to be free of the controlling influence of the One-Eyed Living Room God.
Televisions are connected to toilets by wormholes. Truly, nothing is created or destroyed.
232 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:12:45am |
re: #225 Scorch
Seems now it was a disgruntled convert to Islam.
Disgruntled? Seems like a perfectly well adjusted ROP convert.
234 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:20:05am |
re: #226 Jim in Virginia
what if his ICBM has a slightly longer range and decent targeting, and he hits Valdez?
To hit Alaska, the missile (it seems to me) has to fly over China and Russia. Don't know if either country would like to have the missile equivalent of the "Beverly Hillbillies" truck flying over their heads with a nuke on board.
235 | Dar ul Harbarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:20:20am |
Flashback from the Onion
236 | Jim in Virginia Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:20:26am |
re: #228 eon
Obama should speak in Cairo on his nuanced views of gay marriage/ civil unions.
Sure to be a big hit.
237 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:24:55am |
Good morning.
Look for some profit taking in the market today.
Yesterday's jump was more due to the removal of more uncertainty from the market by GM declaring bankruptcy than specific good news.
238 | SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:25:14am |
re: #236 Jim in Virginia
Obama should speak in Cairo on his nuanced views of gay marriage/ civil unions.
Sure to be a big hit.
Return of the Fair-O.
239 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:26:02am |
240 | eon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:29:10am |
re: #229 Dar ul Harbarian
Sudden Jihad Syndrome to account for the Arkansas recruiter murder?
Jihad syndrome, very probably. But I don't believe the "sudden" part. Considering the amount of extremist indoctrination that seems to be part-and-parcel of Islamic proselytization in prison ministries (witness the quartet in NYC), I'd say those "converting" these gentlemen are spending a considerable amount of time teaching them to become "holy warriors".
It only looks "sudden" because they are also learning to conceal their actions and objectives until they are ready to execute an attack, which is simply OPSEC. What this tells me is that whoever is teaching them is pretty familiar with the way guerrillas operate. (Or has simply read the old Anarchist's Cookbook.)
In many ways, the behavior of these "jihadists" parallels that of the extreme elements of the left-wing radical movement of the 1960s and 1970s; small groups or individuals engaging in independent "acts of resistance" against what they see as an "evil" society. Ours.
The distinction between society and government is an important one. In each case, if the government were the problem, the violence and opposition should have ceased when a new government was installed (Carter in 1977, Obama in 2009). In each case, it didn't; in fact, in the case of Islamic terrorism, it accelerated throughout Carter's term in office, and now seems to be doing the same thing. It's our society the extremists are opposed to, and seek to destroy; now as then, our freshly-minted leaders do not seem to grasp this.
They believe that if they "give them (the extremists) what they want, all will be well." They do not understand that what the extremists want- is for us to cease to exist.
I resist saying that The One, or Carter, also wish this; both are too power-hungry to want everything erased, as then they would have no one to lord it over. Wanting our society sufficiently damaged and crippled to facilitate their Triumph is something else again.
They believe that their dream world, and that of the extremists, are compatible. They fail to understand that the extremists dream of a world in which no one else exists.
cheers
eon
242 | Scorch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:29:50am |
Salute and good morning rightside. Anchors aweigh my boy!
244 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:34:10am |
The cost of Obama's most excellent date dinner in New York. Of course, the White House press Corps does not care:
CURL: The cost of a NYC weekend
In another odd twist left unexamined by the media, the White House on Monday said it simply would not release the cost of President Obama's weekend jaunt to New York City, where the First Couple had dinner and caught a Broadway show.
Spokesman Robert Gibbs, keeping the White House press corps in stiches, as he always does, said the Obamas would have preferred using a commercial airline shuttle to New York and back, but the Secret Service would not allow such unprotected travel (ba da bing).
And that was that. No further probing; asked and answered; time to move on.
Remember though, when Obama lectured CEO's about using private jets?
There was, of course, an ironic element of the trip. In February, Obama scolded corporate executives (while also costing Las Vegas some $130 million) when he said: "You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas, or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers' dime."
So how much did the outing cost you and me?
One early estimate (from the New York Post) put the cost at $24,000. Absurdly low. The Daily Mail in London threw out another number — $75,000. Sure, three times as much as the first estimate, but still probably spectacularly low. Remember, joyriding Air Force One around for a few hours over Manhattan a couple months ago cost $250,000, so the cost of the weekend trip was likely not likely that low.
The Washington Times walks through some long discussions on how much this cost, too long to copy here.
Upshot is, the White House Press Corps loves it when Obama beats up on private sector individuals from his bully pulpit, but does not hold The Messiah to the same standards.
246 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:34:56am |
Got to get ready for work to pay for ObamaMotors.
Later.
247 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:37:57am |
re: #246 3 wood
Got to get ready for work to pay for ObamaMotors.
Later.
Wait until it is Bank of 0bama or 0bama Mortgage.
249 | SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:39:30am |
re: #247 soxfan4life
Wait until it is Bank of 0bama or 0bama Mortgage.
My car needs an Obamahaul.
What the hell is that ?
You fix it for free.
-Peggy the Moocher.
250 | Scorch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:39:35am |
re: #243 rightside
Hey scorch, is that a squadron patch?
Not a patch for a specific squadron but one available to all the A6 Intruder squadrons.
253 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:40:14am |
re: #237 3 wood
But..But.. we where told of the greatness of the One and how the good times are finally rolling again yesterday, KT said so!. You come in with all this doom and gloom. How will we get through the day without our Hope for the future and Change from all that is wrong (Bush messed it all up)!
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254 | Scorch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:44:28am |
You all have a great day! Going outside to enjoy the fresh air after our first measurable rainfall in 7 months. God Bless our Troops!
256 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:46:01am |
Anyone here seen that film "The Martyrs"?
258 | eon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:50:20am |
re: #246 3 wood
Got to get ready for work to pay for ObamaMotors.
Later.
Feb 22 2013
In his State of the Union address last night, President and Immaculate Perfect One Obama was pleased to announce the following;
1. Government Metal Recycling (formerly General Motors) will this week release its newest series of commemorative medallions showing The One's visage in all its glory. This series will consist of 2,371 medals (a number based on a calculation of the number of ways each citizen can worship The One in their heart), and each will include a portion of one of The One's speeches. The medallions will arrive in citizens' mailboxes beginning Monday, under the National Subscription plan which all citizens are required to belong to, along with the notification that the purchase price has already automatically been deducted from their paychecks. All medallions will of course be accompanied by leaflets (printed on recycled paper) of the speeches, for citizens' school-age children to use in class during the daily Appreciation of The One class in every school. The metal the medallions are made of, of course, comes from recycled motor vehicles, as per The One's Five Year Plan to abolish the evil motor vehicle from reality.
2. Chrysler Collective Industries (a fully-owned subsidiary of UAW), no longer makes such evil devices. This year, they will lead the world in production of ecologically-benign, culturally-correct, vital products such as rickshaws and aromatherapy candles.
In closing, The One stated that "Next year will be even better, as we make the world right at last."
//////Do I really need to?
cheers
eon
260 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 4:59:33am |
Still reviewing how the Monday killings (following on the heels of the Sunday Tiller killing) are playing out on the various websites that try to be "conservative" but not freeper/vdare/WND category.
It is not looking good.
From Malkin's (currently) top story comments:
On June 1st, 2009 at 10:53 pm, Leatherneck said:
Did he learn to hate infidels, and Jews in prison? Does he now worship the false moon god allah in a Mosque?
If so, said Mosque should be searched for cell phones, and computers for hate speech against these United States. Any fellow moon god worshiper found to have helped said puke should be shot at dawn for treason against the United States. The Mosque should be destroyed with an American flag placed on top for pics.
That is just to start with.
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On June 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 am, conservative in europe said:
[...]
The upcoming crime will be Blue Lips’ inaction. Based on his protection of the Black Panther thugs, what are the odds some Assistant US Attorney will be calling the DA in Arkansas to make sure this doesn’t turn in to a “show trial” (That is legal/political code for “find a way to keep in quiet”)?I agree with Leatherneck about razing the mosque. This is a religious war, even if our government doesn’t want to admit it. The only ways to defeat this enemy are complete destruction or utter degradation. After we raze the mosque, let’s turn it in to a pig farm.
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261 | eon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:00:00am |
Well, I have to run. Market day. (Bill-paying day was yesterday.)
Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
262 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:02:45am |
Good morning all. So the recruiting shooter is a Muslim convert.
Seriously, that is what I thought fromk the jump, but we were invoking the 48 hour rule.
263 | SixDegrees Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:03:56am |
re: #226 Jim in Virginia
Morning all. I've seen serious speculation that L'il Kim's stroke has led to dementia, hence his recent aggressive stance. (Interesting argument: is Kim any crazier now than in the past fifteen years?) What if he decides to twist the tiger's tail, and launches an ICBM with a nuke which hits somewhere in the Aleutians?
There are casualties, but far fewer than on, for example, 9-11; there is "grave damage to a fragile ecosystem" (I can hear the CNN reporters now.)
What does Bambi do? Do we go to war over a few dead Aleuts and whales?
If Kim gets away with it, it's masterful marketing.Or, what if his ICBM has a slightly longer range and decent targeting, and he hits Valdez?
If he wanted to do any tail twisting, he need look no further than Seoul. The US is bound by mutual aid treaties to respond if it's troops there are attacked. Similar provisions are in place if Japan is attacked; we're obligated to respond. There's no need to dick around with an ICBM program if conflict is what Kimmy wants.
This is just the latest repeat of the game he's been playing for the last several decades: rant, demand aid in return for empty promises, receive aid, repeat.
Best reponse: get rid of the "receive aid" part of the cycle.
266 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:06:58am |
Interesting comment re lost French passenger aircraft:
Ocean search for Air France jet with 228 aboard continues
[...]
No distress signal was received and aviation experts said they did not have enough information to understand how flight AF 447 could have disappeared without a trace.
"All scenarios have to be envisaged," said French Defense Minister Herve Morin on Europe 1 radio.
"We can't rule out a terrorist act since terrorism is the main threat to Western democracies, but at this time we don't have any element whatsoever indicating that such an act could have caused this accident," Morin added. [...]
Two interesting points:
Is terrorism the main threat to the West?
Disappearing without a trace... starting to sound strange. If nothing is found, bet this becomes a movie.
267 | freetoken Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:11:36am |
From that Reuters article:
One element that baffled experts was the absence of any distress messages, either human or automatic, from the plane. No mayday message was picked up, nor were any signals received from emergency beacons that should have transmitted automatically.
"It would be very unusual to have all the communications systems fail at once," said David Gleave, of Aviation Safety Investigations, a UK-based airport and air traffic control risk management consultancy.
"That would tend to indicate that something catastrophic happened."
268 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:14:15am |
re: #266 freetoken
Interesting comment re lost French passenger aircraft:
Ocean search for Air France jet with 228 aboard continues
Two interesting points:Is terrorism the main threat to the West?
Disappearing without a trace... starting to sound strange. If nothing is found, bet this becomes a movie.
So every time an airliner goes down terrorism will be top suspect? Certainly we can increase our security to ensure against that.
269 | dogberry Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:21:47am |
When Israel goes after the Iranian nuclear sites, will President Obama order the Air Force to protect Iran?
270 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:24:22am |
re: #269 dogberry
When Israel goes after the Iranian nuclear sites, will President Obama order the Air Force to protect Iran?
IF israel attacks the nhuclear sites in Iran, Obama will face seminal moment.
Will he defend our ally , or will he join in the sure to be U.N condemnation?
271 | Macker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:30:50am |
re: #270 opnion
IF israel attacks the nhuclear sites in Iran, Obama will face seminal moment.
Will he defend our ally , or will he join in the sure to be U.N condemnation?
He'll do Number 2.
272 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:31:36am |
re: #270 opnion
IF israel attacks the nhuclear sites in Iran, Obama will face seminal moment.
Will he defend our ally , or will he join in the sure to be U.N condemnation?
What was the quote from his book? " I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction". About says it all.
273 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:32:47am |
274 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:32:59am |
re: #271 Macker
He'll do Number 2.
My guess is that he will & it will alter our relationship with Israel.
Bibi really has to factor that in. The possibility of an Obama reelection & a hostile U.S government is not a pretty picture.
276 | Macker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:37:00am |
re: #272 soxfan4life
What was the quote from his book? " I will stand with the Muslims should the
politicalfallout winds shift in an ugly direction". About says it all.
There, fixed that for ya!
277 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:37:09am |
re: #273 soxfan4life
Does that mean side with the UN or crap in his pants?
I don't see Obama as a big fan of Israel, but he has to be careful not to alienate the Jewish vote at home. If he is reelected, I would think that all bets are off.
Israel imo should have acted right after Obama was elected & Bush still held office.
278 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:39:27am |
re: #272 soxfan4life
What was the quote from his book? " I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction". About says it all.
Yeah & why would he say that? Why would the political winds shift in an ugly direction?
His comment seems to discount any value judgement & seems to say that he will stand with Muslims, no matter what.
279 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:39:43am |
re: #277 opnion
I don't see Obama as a big fan of Israel, but he has to be careful not to alienate the Jewish vote at home. If he is reelected, I would think that all bets are off.
Israel imo should have acted right after Obama was elected & Bush still held office.
Israel missed a big opportunity there. While Bush would have likely kept the US out of the fray out of respect to the incoming President, he certainly wouldn't condemn Israel like 0bama seems to do.
281 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:43:00am |
re: #279 soxfan4life
Israel missed a big opportunity there. While Bush would have likely kept the US out of the fray out of respect to the incoming President, he certainly wouldn't condemn Israel like 0bama seems to do.
Bibi has a huge decision here.Does he trust fate & hope that Iran does not strike, or does he attack & deal with the falll out?
282 | Macker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:43:36am |
re: #279 soxfan4life
Israel missed a big opportunity there. While Bush would have likely kept the US out of the fray out of respect to the incoming President, he certainly wouldn't condemn Israel like 0bama seems to do.
Then again, Olmert was a frakkin' wimp, wasn't he?
284 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:45:04am |
285 | Macker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:45:38am |
re: #283 taxfreekiller
Yes, they've all had something Islamic shoved up their ass and they liked it.
286 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:46:02am |
re: #281 opnion
Bibi has a huge decision here.Does he trust fate & hope that Iran does not strike, or does he attack & deal with the falll out?
Given the track record of 0bama and the UN Security Council he would be best served by attacking and dealing with the fallout.
287 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:48:07am |
re: #253 1SG(ret)
But..But.. we where told of the greatness of the One and how the good times are finally rolling again yesterday, KT said so!.
If you missed it a few weeks ago, KT admitted freely that he knows nothing about economics.
I believe him.
288 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:48:16am |
re: #285 Macker
Yes, they've all had something Islamic shoved up their ass and they liked it.
Liked it, they begged for more.Makes you wonder when Barney Frank will be taking a Congressional Junket to the Middle East and what Pelosi will have to threaten him with to get him to come back to the US.
289 | rightside Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:48:32am |
re: #286 soxfan4life
Man, don't use the word fallout with barry.
290 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:49:55am |
re: #289 rightside
Man, don't use the word fallout with barry.
When Barry is done there wil be no blue states, we'll all be red and glowing.
291 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:50:43am |
Think Obama will mention that it was a convert to Islam that killed one of our brave soldiers and wounded another down in Arkansas? Or that will not go along with his "see no evil, heat no evil" approach?
292 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:52:28am |
re: #291 Nevergiveup
Think Obama will mention that it was a convert to Islam that killed one of our brave soldiers and wounded another down in Arkansas? Or that will not go along with his "see no evil, heat no evil" approach?
Somehow it will be because of GITMO giving him more ammo in his bid to close it down.
293 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:52:40am |
Mornin' lizards. Jimmah Cartuh is an equal opportunity asshat. Now he disagrees with the one that the Gitmo pics should be released. Why doesn't he just move to Gaza and run for Prez there?
294 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:53:09am |
re: #291 Nevergiveup
Islam had NOTHING to do with it!
It's the GUNS,GUNS are everywhere!
This Asshat had THREE guns!
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295 | _RememberTonyC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:54:04am |
re: #50 BignJames
I've worked at a couple union places......you/we pay for some ridiculous "work rules". I worked @ Newport News shipyard, I was
an electrician wiring/installing busses/breakers in distubution cabs. Some bolt hole didn't line up so I reamed it. Supervisor saw me and told me not to do it again...."That's sheet metal, you're an electrician....next time call the sheet metal shop. "Next time"
was about 10 minutes later...it took sheet metal about 4 hours to show up.
unions are the enemy of creativity and productivity. you are rewarded for not working instead of being rewarded for innovation, efficiency, and organization. I hated working in a union shop and now when we have to go into union buildings, there's this dark cloud over us.
296 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:54:10am |
re: #259 taxfreekiller
result,,, you, your kids, your kids kids pay, and Democrats,,, they
lie and cheat you 24/7 to this hour.Wake Up.
And watch what happens with tax policy going forward. Now that Obama is running a large part of the American auto industry, I will not be surprised to see tax policies adopted to force us to buy the "green" cars that Obama will probably make GM build.
I would not be surprised to see a federal tax in engine displacement.horsepower before this is all said and done. You can bet that a large extra gas tax will be in the works. The SUV and pick up might be for all intents and purposes outlawed.
297 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:54:19am |
The United States will be more blunt in raising objections to Israel's settlement policies in the Palestinian territories than previous administrations, President Barack Obama told a U.S. radio network in an interview on Monday.
"Part of being a good friend is being honest," Obama told National Public Radio. "And I think there have been times where we are not as honest as we should be about the fact that the current direction, the current trajectory, in the region is profoundly negative, not only for Israeli interests but also U.S. interests.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
What about all those "understandings" the Past Administration had with Israel about settlements? SO all those are out the window. America's word can't be trusted? Hey Putz answer that?
298 | _RememberTonyC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:55:13am |
re: #293 pingjockey
Mornin' lizards. Jimmah Cartuh is an equal opportunity asshat. Now he disagrees with the one that the Gitmo pics should be released. Why doesn't he just move to Gaza and run for Prez there?
carter has a lot of influence with Obama due to the brzezenski connection.
299 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:56:12am |
re: #298 _RememberTonyC
Carter and all his fools need to STFU!
300 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:57:01am |
Last update - 14:42 02/06/2009
U.S. demands Israel halt construction in East Jerusalem market
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Demand! Demand! Demand! Demand!
301 | rightside Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:58:25am |
re: #300 Nevergiveup
BN should send clueless a strongly worded letter in response. Something along the lines of "Fuck off"
302 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 5:58:44am |
re: #300 Nevergiveup
Does this admin ever 'demand' from anyone else? ie..We demand the Norks quit building nukes? Or, we demand Iran quit hanging people from cranes?
303 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:01:23am |
re: #301 rightside
BN should send clueless a strongly worded letter in response. Something along the lines of "Fuck off"
Wish they could. As much as I am angry with Obama, his pals, and liberal Jews who voted for this putz, Israel is stuck between a big rock and a real hard place.
304 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:01:55am |
On FNC this morning...The DoJ(hah) has said Georgias' requirement to show proof of citizenship to vote is illegal! Progressive! Let foreigners/illegal aliens vote for more free stuff!
305 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:02:03am |
re: #302 pingjockey
Does this admin ever 'demand' from anyone else? ie..We demand the Norks quit building nukes? Or, we demand Iran quit hanging people from cranes?
It's kinda like a wife beater. They only pick on some one who can't really hit back.
306 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:02:25am |
Powerline - Regime Change...Israel: "You cannot freeze life"
This was Benjamin Netanyahu's response to President Obama's demand that Israel cease construction in the West Bank that is the natural outgrowth of existing settlements. In others words, Netanyahu is saying "no" to Obama.
[...]
Obama hasn't heard "no" from anyone with signifcant power for some time. How will he react?There has been speculation that he will react by declining to veto anti-Israel resolutions at the United Nations. This doesn't strike me as a likely response. Obama's goal is to bring down the Netanyahu government. The best way to accomplish this is to take steps that signal a deterioration in relations but that do not cause Israelis to sympathize with Netanyahu and to dislike Obama.
Well...that is certainly one way to bring about "...how the United States can change for the better its relationship with the Muslim world....” - throw the government of Israel into internal disarray.
Just think of the possibilities if Hezbollah comes to power in Lebanon next week.
307 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:04:29am |
re: #305 Nevergiveup
I just wonder, how much does Israel really need our foreign aid? They have a really good homegrown arms industry. I guess the only thing they really need from us is fighter jets.
308 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:05:04am |
Some asshole Judge just rules Gitmo evidence must be made public. Shit let them all go. Send them home on a Air France 330 Airbus.
309 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:05:33am |
re: #306 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Internal civil war, with Syria and Iran helping out.
310 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:05:51am |
Does this admin ever 'demand' from anyone else? ie..We demand the Norks quit building nukes? Or, we demand Iran quit hanging people from cranes?
He demanded that certain CEO's stop flying on private jets when they are getting tax payer money.
Of course he can traipse off on a dinner date any time he wants at our cost. Too bad they don't have some decent cooks at the White House.
311 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:06:46am |
re: #307 pingjockey
I just wonder, how much does Israel really need our foreign aid? They have a really good homegrown arms industry. I guess the only thing they really need from us is fighter jets.
They need it badly especially in case of a real shooting war that lasts more than a week. They also need our political cover or the sanctions would come raining down from a still very anti-semitic world. It sucks to be Israel sometimes.
312 | rightside Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:07:49am |
re: #304 pingjockey
That is just incredible. My co-worker and I scratch our heads at that one. They even said they would drive out to those who cannot make it physically and make an ID for them free of charge to that person!
The dems, by saying that, have openly admitted they want to cheat on elections, period.
314 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:09:26am |
re: #312 rightside
That is just incredible. My co-worker and I scratch our heads at that one. They even said they would drive out to those who cannot make it physically and make an ID for them free of charge to that person!
The dems, by saying that, have openly admitted they want to cheat on elections, period.
Well they always have pretty much openly admitted they cheat.
315 | Dustoff-507 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:11:05am |
I wonder, why is the White House and the AG so quite about the Army recruiter shooting?
(Who do we BLAME)
316 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:11:53am |
re: #315 Dustoff-507
I wonder, why is the White House and the AG so quite about the Army recruiter shooting?
(Who do we BLAME)
They have to figure out how to spin it to their advantage?
317 | Dustoff-507 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:12:55am |
re: #316 Nevergiveup
Yep.... They went NUTS over the DR shooting... This shooting, "ZIP"
318 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:14:17am |
re: #293 pingjockey
Mornin' lizards. Jimmah Cartuh is an equal opportunity asshat. Now he disagrees with the one that the Gitmo pics should be released. Why doesn't he just move to Gaza and run for Prez there?
The awful part is that those pics are going to leak out eventually, one way or another. That's the nature of these things.
I think Obama made the right decision by not releasing them, as there is no question that it would endanger our troops.
On the other hand, there are also pictures and video out there that depict the rape and sexual abuse of prisoners. The Brit press already has posted detailed descriptions of them and they were detailed in the 2005 Taguba report. These pictures are not part of the set that Obama just refused to release, btw. But they exist, and I think the individuals who engaged in those actions must be prosecuted.
i don't want those photos (or indeed any) released at any time when it could endanger our troops, but the people who raped and sexually abused prisoners need to be--must be-- exposed and prosecuted one day.
319 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:16:46am |
re: #309 pingjockey
Internal civil war, with Syria and Iran helping out.
No 'civil war' just internal political disarray...with Hezbollah to the North; Hamas & Egypt to the South & West; while Syria sits to the East.
If we're letting the mullah's go nuclear, Egypt & the Klingdom would almost certainly realign, at least temporarily, for the blood of Israeli's on their swords.
320 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:18:25am |
re: #263 SixDegrees
If he wanted to do any tail twisting, he need look no further than Seoul. The US is bound by mutual aid treaties to respond if it's troops there are attacked. Similar provisions are in place if Japan is attacked; we're obligated to respond. There's no need to dick around with an ICBM program if conflict is what Kimmy wants.
This is just the latest repeat of the game he's been playing for the last several decades: rant, demand aid in return for empty promises, receive aid, repeat.
Best reponse: get rid of the "receive aid" part of the cycle.
Exactly right. This is why it exasperates me to hear the chatterers gooing on about his capability to attack the U.S. He doesn't have to.
321 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:20:36am |
re: #308 Nevergiveup
Some asshole Judge just rules Gitmo evidence must be made public. Shit let them all go. Send them home on a Air France 330 Airbus.
Wait until the President decides it can't be done. Heads exploding, heh, heh, heh...
322 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:22:16am |
re: #317 Dustoff-507
Yep.... They went NUTS over the DR shooting... This shooting, "ZIP"
The AG assigned Marshall's to other Abortion Doctors. Hey why not let Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines walk around armed? Yeah I know the law.Spit.
323 | Carridine Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:22:55am |
re: #320 haakondahl
This is why it exasperates me to hear the chatterers gooing on about his capability to attack the U.S.
How miserable... how pitiful, in a clownish, Stalinist way...
Kim gets ONE missile fueled and armed with a nuclear warhead, and IF he fires it, American defenses will vaporize it in the sky, and THEN retaliate...
Kind of like lancing a boil, to let the yellow, purulent stinking stuff dribble out...
324 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:23:02am |
re: #318 iceweasel
As far as I know any of the US troops that abused prisoners has been prosecuted.
325 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:23:47am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (68 degrees going up to 92 degrees) muggy (87% humidity) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
326 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:25:37am |
re: #325 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (68 degrees going up to 92 degrees) muggy (87% humidity) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Fine RW, from a 48 degree Golden/Denver, going up to 56, and possible snow not 30 miles west of here tonight, in the Rockies, above 8000 feet.
327 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:25:50am |
re: #319 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
The Majik Kingdom is balanced on the edge of a sword. They don't dare crack down on the islamists but they also are deathly afraid of the mad mullahs in Iran fomenting a revolution and taking over SA.
328 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:26:59am |
re: #326 Walter L. Newton
Glad to hear that "fine" from you Walter! That temperature range seems fine to me, too! Much preferable to what ours is supposed to be.
329 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:27:03am |
re: #325 realwest
Mornin RW. FNC showing the Israelis running civil defense drills right now.
330 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:27:24am |
re: #318 iceweasel
i don't want those photos (or indeed any) released at any time when it could endanger our troops, but the people who raped and sexually abused prisoners need to be--must be-- exposed and prosecuted one day.
Do you have any evidence that this isn't being done. I seem to recall trails (Ft Campbell, Marines in San Diego) that did just that. A discharged soldier was just convicted in Paducah, Ky for a crime (rape/murder) committed in Iraq. The military as a whole are really good about punishing these kinds of acts.
331 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:27:53am |
re: #325 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (68 degrees going up to 92 degrees) muggy (87% humidity) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Good morning. Same type of weather here in Louisville. I'd rather be where Walter is today. This humidity makes for a bad hair day.
332 | Carridine Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:28:00am |
re: #325 realwest
Hey backatcha!
Just as I get here, you gotta go...
waitaminnit, t'other way round...
Tired me is, RealWest... I'll be up again in a little over 5 hours... so YOU man the barricaces, m'kay?
From the jasmine-scented suburbs of rain-soaked, exotic Bangkok... Nytol!
/Nyquil?
333 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:28:10am |
re: #329 pingjockey
Hey ping! Unfortunately, I think most Israelis have had enough experience with the real thing to not need to do any "drills".
334 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:29:05am |
90 plus for the rest of the week here in North Central WA state. However, humidity less than 30%.
335 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:29:45am |
re: #330 1SG(ret)
Hi there Top! How are you today? And I agree, the U.S. Military is REALLY good at digging out the weirdos and criminally insane from it's midst and trying them and VERY GOOD at punishing them!
336 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:29:55am |
O'reilly takes Terry Randall's advice.....
‘No Backpedaling Here…Every Single Thing We Said About Tiller Was True’
337 | FrogMarch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:30:07am |
Good morning.
Remember - It's ok to be a leftist with rape fantasies. Just so long as your hate is directed at the ideologically impure. (Republicans and Libertarians)
338 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:30:12am |
re: #333 realwest
Yep. This was on a bigger scale, as in drills if Iran hits them with a MRB without a nuke warhead.
339 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:30:30am |
re: #331 KenJen
Good morning. Same type of weather here in Louisville. I'd rather be where Walter is today. This humidity makes for a bad hair day.
Well, it's raining here right now, but it's a dry rain :)
340 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:31:34am |
re: #332 Carridine
Hey Carridine! How are things going for you (other than you're falling asleep when I show up! hmmm, maybe I can make my prescence on a keyboard/blog an alernative to sleep aids like Nitol?)?
341 | Carridine Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:31:38am |
re: #339 Walter L. Newton
Well, it's raining here right now, but it's a dry rain :)
None a that 'wet' humidity for you Walter... I LIKE yr style...
G'nite
343 | John Neverbend Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:33:35am |
re: #227 Kenneth
The trouble with Cairo
by Irshad ManjiHow will Obama reach out to Muslims while looking over his shoulder at his authoritarian Egyptian hosts?
I saw part of Greta van Susteren's interview with Dick and Liz Cheney. Responding to the question as to what she expected Mr. Obama to say in his speech in Cairo, Liz Cheney expressed her hope that he would talk about democracy and women's rights. I wonder if that will be before or after he causes the Nile to run backwards?
344 | FrogMarch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:34:35am |
re: #326 Walter L. Newton
Fine RW, from a 48 degree Golden/Denver, going up to 56, and possible snow not 30 miles west of here tonight, in the Rockies, above 8000 feet.
I'm loving it. (expect for the damn leak in my house)
345 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:34:56am |
re: #335 realwest
Morning RW, doing fine for a old guy. Work is about to curtail my influence here, not that I have any. Hope you are feeling OK this fine day. Are you keeping a lid on the stupidity in my home state.
346 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:36:02am |
Why the fuck does congress get involved in appointing generals to different commands? WTF do those clueless cretins know about prosecuting a war?!
347 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:37:38am |
re: #344 FrogMarch
I'm loving it. (expect for the damn leak in my house)
I'm not hating it, but the hot here in the summer, in my opinion, is bearable, at least compared to Texas and the East Coast, places I have lived before. So, I wouldn't mind a little summer starting soon.
I don't even have air conditioning in my apartment, (nor do I think I would use it if I had it, considering the electricity rates) and it's not that bad.
348 | rightside Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:38:11am |
re: #325 realwest
Hey real, doing good here, sunny and 72 here, no rain in sight.
349 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:38:37am |
re: #346 pingjockey
POWER......POWER.....POWER If the O can run GM/Chrysler why can't congress critters run the military. You must get with the program dude!
350 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:39:26am |
re: #338 pingjockey
OY! If that should happen, then I truly hope Israel takes "direct action" at the Mullahs in Iran - and yes,Israel does have in flight re-fueling and yes the SAM capabilities the Russians sold Iran through Belarous are indeed second line; Russian has not exported it best SAM system - although AF Fighter Jocks I know scoff at the idea of ANY SAM system bringing down an F-22 fighter or an upgraded F-16 of which Israel has many and in fact used them to take out Syria's nuclear plant a year or so ago - and Syria was also protected by the Russian SAM set up.
351 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:39:42am |
re: #349 1SG(ret)
Right. We'd be better off if the qualification for congress was you had to be a retired NCO!
352 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:39:46am |
re: #291 Nevergiveup
Think Obama will mention that it was a convert to Islam that killed one of our brave soldiers and wounded another down in Arkansas? Or that will not go along with his "see no evil, heat no evil" approach?
If he mentions that the shooting was Islamic motivated, he will do a moral equivalence, you know America is not innocent, blah , blah, blah.
353 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:41:16am |
re: #350 realwest
As far as qualified 'combat' pilots, I'd say the IAF has more than anyone else, except for the US.
354 | FrogMarch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:41:31am |
re: #347 Walter L. Newton
I'm not hating it, but the hot here in the summer, in my opinion, is bearable, at least compared to Texas and the East Coast, places I have lived before. So, I wouldn't mind a little summer starting soon.
I don't even have air conditioning in my apartment, (nor do I think I would use it if I had it, considering the electricity rates) and it's not that bad.
shhhhh. Colorado sucks. Tell all your friends. ;-)
I have air conditioning too, but I don't use it. I open the windows at night and promptly close them in the AM to keep the house cool all day. The busybody Boulder proggie-elites who run their air conditioners all night didn't even have to force me.
355 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:41:33am |
Oh goody, I knew The Jaun would clear things up for us...
LONDON -- President Barack Obama suggested that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it proves by the end of the year that its aspirations are peaceful.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
356 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:41:33am |
Here's a Der Spiegel interview with 0bama's great-uncle Charles Payne, who helped liberate Ohrdruf, a sub-camp of Buchenwald. Another interesting WWII story.
357 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:42:06am |
re: #345 1SG(ret) "old guy" LOL! You're just a young pup!
And I'm trying to keep the lid on things, but for some, no doubt bizarre reason, the State says just because some people are "dear" doesn't mean a "Deer License" means I can go after 'em, ya know?
/
358 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:42:19am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
Oh goody, I knew The Jaun would clear things up for us...
LONDON -- President Barack Obama suggested that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it proves by the end of the year that its aspirations are peaceful.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Atoms For Peace!
/not exactly
359 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:42:27am |
re: #324 pingjockey
As far as I know any of the US troops that abused prisoners has been prosecuted.
But not for these acts. Maybe it's the same people who are already jailed for abuse. But we don't know.
360 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:42:53am |
Good morning lizards. How is everyone this fine morning?
Voted in the NJ primary this morning. Was surprised they let me as I am registered as an Independent. Not many of my fellow citizens there, I am sorry to say.
361 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:43:10am |
re: #354 FrogMarch
shhhhh. Colorado sucks. Tell all your friends. ;-)
I have air conditioning too, but I don't use it. I open the windows at night and promptly close them in the AM to keep the house cool all day. The busybody Boulder proggie-elites who run their air conditioners all night didn't even have to force me.
You're lucky. A lot of offenders get flogged on The Hill for running their air conditioners. I once wanted to organize a campaign to try to force CU to not use their air conditioners. Never got off the ground, I wonder why?
362 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:43:55am |
re: #359 iceweasel
What acts? Where? When? Like I said, the US military goes after folks who do shit like that.
363 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:44:03am |
re: #348 rightside
Hi ya rightside! Glad you're well - uh, it's 72 where you are ALREADY?! Yikes - what's the high temp supposed to be?!
364 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:44:22am |
re: #315 Dustoff-507
I wonder, why is the White House and the AG so quite about the Army recruiter shooting?
(Who do we BLAME)
They have to suppress the jihad angle.
365 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:44:27am |
re: #349 1SG(ret)
POWER......POWER.....POWER If the O can run GM/Chrysler why can't congress critters run the military. You must get with the program dude!
The Hummer brand is for sale. I think it would be funny if the NRA bought it. Kinda fits their image. Plus it would piss off O and the libs. You know they want Hummers off the road.
366 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:44:38am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
Oh goody, I knew The Jaun would clear things up for us...
LONDON -- President Barack Obama suggested that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it proves by the end of the year that its aspirations are peaceful.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Good to know that Iran has a right to nuclear power, while we don't. These kind of statements just guarantee that Israel will launch a strike, and soon.
367 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:45:00am |
re: #351 pingjockey
Now wouldn't that be a hoot! At least for the most part, common sense would start to be part of governance. They will never go for it though! it makes sense!
368 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:45:27am |
re: #365 KenJen
The Hummer brand is for sale. I think it would be funny if the NRA bought it. Kinda fits their image. Plus it would piss off O and the libs. You know they want Hummers off the road.
No, it's sold...
GM sells Hummer to mystery buyer
Bankrupt automaker won't disclose details of deal to sell truck line.
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
369 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:45:59am |
re: #367 1SG(ret)
Yep. Can't have common sense and logic on the Hill.
370 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:46:10am |
re: #364 Ward Cleaver
They have to suppress the jihad angle.
Fox News didn't. It was the headline story online this morning.
371 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:46:29am |
600ft jellyfish crop circle found in Oxfordshire field
"We are looking into the meaning of it, but at present it just seems to have appeared out of nowhere."
Crop circle theorists known as 'croppies' - believe the patterns are created by UFOs during nocturnal visits, or caused by natural phenomena such as unusual forms of lightning striking the earth.
But it has been proven the patterns can be easily created artists.
Rejoice in the willful gullibility of humanity.
372 | Lincolntf Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:46:46am |
Morning all.
Romnet has a few suggestions for Obama re: the trip to Normandy.
Herald editorial
373 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:47:07am |
re: #353 pingjockey
I'd agree with you ping, but iirc, in an Operation Red Flag several years back, the Israeli's cleaned our clock for us. We however DID learn from that Testosterone filled event and have improved tremendously - still I'd make the IAF thisclose behind the USAF in terms of pilot capabilities.
375 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:47:10am |
The AR shooter has been to Yemen and used a fake Somali passport to get there. BTW, he just pleaded not guilty.
376 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:47:21am |
re: #370 VioletTiger
Fox News didn't. It was the headline story online this morning.
"Muslim man with 'political and religious motives' who allegedly shot and killed a soldier and wounded another was under FBI investigation after traveling to Yemen."
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Vacation?
377 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:47:22am |
Good morning, LGF!
Submitted for your consideration Mr. Earl Wincheski. An average little man with an average little life. Little does he realize it, but his eyes are about to be opened. Before the day is out, Earl will understand as never before. He's not in The Twilight Zone... Earl is about to meet a Lizard!
378 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:47:23am |
re: #330 1SG(ret)
Do you have any evidence that this isn't being done. I seem to recall trails (Ft Campbell, Marines in San Diego) that did just that. A discharged soldier was just convicted in Paducah, Ky for a crime (rape/murder) committed in Iraq. The military as a whole are really good about punishing these kinds of acts.
Of course the military punishes these acts, as it should. And is really good about doing so.
Here's one example of what I'm talking about:
Among the graphic statements, which were later released under US freedom of information laws, is that of Kasim Mehaddi Hilas in which he says: “I saw [name of a translator] ******* a kid, his age would be about 15 to 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn’t covered and I saw [name] who was wearing the military uniform, putting his **** in the little kid’s ***…. and the female soldier was taking pictures.”
The translator was an American Egyptian who is now the subject of a civil court case in the US.
That translator needs to be brought up on other charges, not merely a civil court case. He needs to go to jail.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
379 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:48:20am |
re: #373 realwest
I figured that with Iraq and Afghanistan our combat pilots had caught up to the IAF!
380 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:48:54am |
re: #343 John Neverbend
Responding to the question as to what she expected Mr. Obama to say in his speech in Cairo...
I pretty sure he'll talk mostly about his own remarkable life, but if he does get around to mentioning "democracy" it will be about how democracy is so cool because it got him elected.
381 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:49:05am |
re: #371 Kenneth
600ft jellyfish crop circle found in Oxfordshire field
Rejoice in the willful gullibility of humanity.
Ha, they fell for it, that's not a jellyfish, Earthlings will discover what it really is in a few months. Beware the Cosmic QueTip.
382 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:49:31am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
Oh goody, I knew The Jaun would clear things up for us...
LONDON -- President Barack Obama suggested that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it proves by the end of the year that its aspirations are peaceful.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Um, I sure hope President Obama doesn't mean let's let Iran GET nuclear energy and see if they use it for peaceful purposes (though I do get the feeling that is EXACTLY what he means).
383 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:49:37am |
re: #378 iceweasel
I have trouble believing anything from the Brit press or the NY slimes.
384 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:49:44am |
re: #375 pingjockey
The AR shooter has been to Yemen and used a fake Somali passport to get there. BTW, he just pleaded not guilty.
Smells like Al Qaeda connections.
385 | rightside Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:49:49am |
re: #363 realwest
It's going on 10am here, and the high will be 91 today.
386 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:49:52am |
David T at Harry's Place has a good piece on the idiocy of the UK governments attempts to make a distinction between Hezbollahs "military" and political faces.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
Also notes female BBC reporters are still apt to get soggy panties when talking to terrorists and their representatives:
There’s a very fluffy piece on Hezbollah at the BBC, written by Natalia Antelava. If you fast forward past the gooey knickers stuff:
Tall, immaculately dressed and articulate, the man did not fit my image of a fighter.
“We are not some hardliners who hide in the mountains,” he smiled, clearly amused by my observation.
387 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:50:04am |
re: #368 Walter L. Newton
No, it's sold...
GM sells Hummer to mystery buyer
Bankrupt automaker won't disclose details of deal to sell truck line.[Link: money.cnn.com...]
Citigroup was the financial advisor in the Hummer deal. Funny!
388 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:50:05am |
re: #375 pingjockey
The AR shooter has been to Yemen and used a fake Somali passport to get there. BTW, he just pleaded not guilty.
So it's settled then, he's a Presbyterian?
389 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:50:14am |
re: #376 Walter L. Newton
"Muslim man with 'political and religious motives' who allegedly shot and killed a soldier and wounded another was under FBI investigation after traveling to Yemen."
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Vacation?
Any info on where & how this guy converted? Was it jail house or did he just find a radical Mosque?
390 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:50:55am |
391 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:50:57am |
re: #359 iceweasel
Which acts are you talking about iceweasel?
392 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:51:14am |
re: #389 opnion
Any info on where & how this guy converted? Was it jail house or did he just find a radical Mosque?
I think it was an ad in the back of a comic book.
393 | SixDegrees Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:51:52am |
re: #368 Walter L. Newton
No, it's sold...
GM sells Hummer to mystery buyer
Bankrupt automaker won't disclose details of deal to sell truck line.[Link: money.cnn.com...]
Odd, that. I would have thought that anything that took place under bankruptcy supervision would be public. If GM were still a publicly traded company, the details would be hanging out in the sunlight.
394 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:52:16am |
re: #362 pingjockey
What acts? Where? When? Like I said, the US military goes after folks who do shit like that.
Forgive me, I should have provided all the information and the link. I agree with you that the military is really good about prosecuting people who do this.
See my 378---
I think that guy has to be put in jail for rape.
395 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:52:21am |
re: #393 SixDegrees
Odd, that. I would have thought that anything that took place under bankruptcy supervision would be public. If GM were still a publicly traded company, the details would be hanging out in the sunlight.
Government Motors probably sold it to Iran.
396 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:52:43am |
re: #346 pingjockey
Why the fuck does congress get involved in appointing generals to different commands? WTF do those clueless cretins know about prosecuting a war?!
Actually, I would prefer the imperfection of their plans to the imperfections of the plans of others. Those are administrative decisions (confirmation of promotions, tied to job slots), and well within the lines for civilian control of the military.
A military officer's loyalty is to the Constitution, and it is better that that loyalty pass through an amorphous group, than a single person, on the way there. The President is the Commander-in-Chief, but to me it seems a good preventative for the creation of a cult of personality, or a ruling clique, checks and balances style.
397 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:52:49am |
re: #394 iceweasel
Forgive me, I should have provided all the information and the link. I agree with you that the military is really good about prosecuting people who do this.
See my 378---
I think that guy has to be put in jail for rape.
Er, if he's convicted of rape, right?
398 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:53:01am |
The radio just reported that Kim has Named his 26 year old son as his eventual successor in NK. The son is reputed to be proficient in English & a heavy drinker.
399 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:53:21am |
re: #386 Jimmah
Also notes female BBC reporters are still apt to get soggy panties when talking to terrorists and their representatives, "Tall, immaculately dressed and articulate, the man did not fit my image of a fighter."
WTF? Her grandmother probably thought Herr Hitler cut a jaunty figure too.
400 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:53:41am |
re: #392 Walter L. Newton
I think it was an ad in the back of a comic book.
I passed those ads and went for the Sea Monkeys.
401 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:53:47am |
re: #371 Kenneth
600ft jellyfish crop circle found in Oxfordshire field
Rejoice in the willful gullibility of humanity.
Some people have WAY too much time on their hands.
402 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:53:50am |
re: #394 iceweasel
If it is the link the the Telegraph, I have problems believing anything in the Brit press about our/their military. Those assholes shill for Hamas/Hezbollocks, etc...
403 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:53:53am |
re: #360 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - which primaries - for Govenor? And I'm kinda surprised the let you vote at all, since you are a registered Independent. That's why, for most of the time I lived in NYC I was a registered Dem - they had the only "fun" primaries. The GOP knew it was gonna lose anyway in NYC and so their primaries were sorta looking for a sacrificial lamb type things!
404 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:54:06am |
re: #392 Walter L. Newton
I think it was an ad in the back of a comic book.
Sign up & win a free trip to Yemen.
405 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:54:10am |
re: #398 opnion
The radio just reported that Kim has Named his 26 year old son as his eventual successor in NK. The son is reputed to be proficient in English & a heavy drinker.
He'll get along splendidly with Ed Kennedy.
406 | Lincolntf Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:54:14am |
re: #398 opnion
The son is reputed to be proficient in English & a heavy drinker.
Hey, I'm qualified!
407 | FrogMarch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:55:10am |
re: #371 Kenneth
600ft jellyfish crop circle found in Oxfordshire field
Rejoice in the willful gullibility of humanity.
that is amazing. The space aliens sure are artistic. /
409 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:55:45am |
re: #389 opnion
Any info on where & how this guy converted? Was it jail house or did he just find a radical Mosque?
A"radical Mosque"? I better keep my mouth shut so I don't say something I'll regret.
410 | FrogMarch Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:55:57am |
re: #361 Walter L. Newton
You're lucky. A lot of offenders get flogged on The Hill for running their air conditioners. I once wanted to organize a campaign to try to force CU to not use their air conditioners. Never got off the ground, I wonder why?
Ward Churchill needs dry armpits.
411 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:01am |
re: #396 haakondahl
Sure, except the cretins ask the generals operational crap that the cretins have no concept of. "Everything in war is very simple. The simplest things are very difficult". Clausewitz.
412 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:06am |
re: #382 realwest
Um, I sure hope President Obama doesn't mean let's let Iran GET nuclear energy and see if they use it for peaceful purposes (though I do get the feeling that is EXACTLY what he means).
I am sure he will feign utter shock if they somehow divert their efforts to bomb making.
413 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:09am |
re: #394 iceweasel
All of the photos in question were from the Abu Ghraib incident. The troops involved were put on trial and those found guilty were convicted of the various charges and sentenced.
414 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:27am |
re: #385 rightside
It's going on 10am here, and the high will be 91 today.
Going on 1830 here, with temperatures finally out of the 100s, after a week of that $h1t.
415 | jacksontn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:46am |
re: #409 Nevergiveup
A"radical Mosque"? I better keep my mouth shut so I don't say something I'll regret.
NGU ... I hear ya brother ...
Good Morning Lizards ... another beautiful day in bitter clingerland ...
416 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:47am |
re: #371 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! Say do you think those "croppies" would be interested in buying a bridge that goes from Manhattan to Brooklyn (and back again!) so they could put up toll booths to fund their lunacy research?! How are you doing today?
417 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:56:54am |
re: #392 Walter L. Newton
I think it was an ad in the back of a comic book.
Sell enough magazine subscriptions, and get a trip to Yemen! And for an extra 100 points, get an electric football game!
418 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:57:01am |
re: #372 Lincolntf
Morning all.
Romnet has a few suggestions for Obama re: the trip to Normandy.
Herald editorial
I saw a bit of Romney on CSPAN last night. He pretty much smacked down O's great idea of cutting our missile defense budget. He made complete sense. It was refreshing since I haven't heard any in awhile. I think he will definitely run for Pres. again. Hoping.
419 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:57:19am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
Oh goody, I knew The Jaun would clear things up for us...
LONDON -- President Barack Obama suggested that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it proves by the end of the year that its aspirations are peaceful.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Our 10kt nukes are peaceful...it is so crayola'd in the Qur'an. - Supreme Fubar, Tehran, sometime June 2009.
Your cool, man. We were just jive'n ya' about this stuff. - The One, D.C., sometime June 2009.
420 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:57:24am |
Speaking of hoaxes....
Giant feral pig that ate a cow 'an internet hoax' say authorities in Australia
The story of a giant feral pig being shot after a farmer found it gorging on one of his prize cows has been dismissed as an internet hoax by Australian authorities despite this picture.
421 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:57:32am |
re: #389 opnion
Any info on where & how this guy converted? Was it jail house or did he just find a radical Mosque?
According to one report:
Police say Muhammad has only lived in the area for a few months and has no local criminal record. He has previously lived in Memphis and Nashville.
422 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:57:40am |
re: #412 VioletTiger
I am sure he will feign utter shock if they somehow divert their efforts to bomb making.
Is he sure he wants to know what is in Iran's clenched fist?
423 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:58:13am |
re: #368 Walter L. Newton
It really would be great to find out that NRA was the mystery buyer though. I can hear the heads exploding with just the thought of it!
424 | John Neverbend Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:22am |
re: #405 Walter L. Newton
He'll get along splendidly with Ed Kennedy.
His name is Kim Jong Un(der the influence of alcohol). It seems that he studed at the International School in Bern. His classmates said that he was "timid and introverted but an avid skier and basketball player...a fan of Michael Jordan and Jean-Claude Van Damme." Here's the link:
425 | Chicken Kiev Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:31am |
402 pingjockey
If it is the link the the Telegraph, I have problems believing anything in the Brit press about our/their military. Those assholes shill for Hamas/Hezbollocks, etc...
Actually, the Telegraph is more "on our side" than most. This Telegraph columnist was completely scathing in his excoriation of Obama and co.
426 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:40am |
re: #401 VioletTiger
The very first set of crop circles were created by a group of British artists. They documented the entire procedure. It was all a big art project. It never occurred to them that nutbars would latch onto it and claim the designs were made by aliens. When the artists released the video of how they created the crop circles, the "experts" ignored them. That's how ridiculous some people are. It explains how some people will insist on believing the most bizarre stories, simply because they want to believe bizarre stories.
427 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:43am |
re: #383 pingjockey
I have trouble believing anything from the Brit press or the NY slimes.
Oh I hear you on that and agree, but the detainee's statement comes from the internal U.S. Army report on detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison. i trust that, and the guy who authored it-- Major General Taguba.
I just linked the telegraph article because it summarises the whole situation (with some mistakes, but I've read the original us army report and can confirm that the telegraph correctly quoted the detainee's statement from it at least.)
428 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:45am |
Dow+20
Look like the dow id going to attempt to hold on to yesterday's gains.
429 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:49am |
re: #405 Walter L. Newton
He'll get along splendidly with Ed Kennedy.
Maybe Kennedy can get him a Portuguese Water dog.
Wait would that be a delicacy in NK?
430 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:49am |
re: #398 opnion
The radio just reported that Kim has Named his 26 year old son as his eventual successor in NK. The son is reputed to be proficient in English & a heavy drinker.
Great. A heavy drinker in charge of a nuclear button.
431 | lawhawk Tue, Jun 2, 2009 6:59:50am |
Obama: Iran has a right to nuclear power.
Ah, legitimate rights and aspirations. Yeah, no word on what form that nuclear power will take... whether it will be a controlled nuclear reaction, or an uncontrolled reaction that creates artificial daylight.
Yeah, this Middle East trip is going to be blog-fodder alright. It's already getting off to a flying start.
432 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:00:26am |
re: #421 redstateredneck
Police say Muhammad has only lived in the area for a few months and has no local criminal record. He has previously lived in Memphis and Nashville.
Elvis and country music.... do it every time!
433 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:00:41am |
re: #400 SteveC
I passed those ads and went for the Sea Monkeys.
I always wanted the submarine you could sit in, but my father never got it for me. I realize now it was probably cardboard and would fall apart the first time I tried to get in it.
434 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:00:49am |
re: #425 Chicken Kiev
Thanks. There's a 'bit' of a slam there.
435 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:01:01am |
re: #403 realwest
Good morning VioletTiger - which primaries - for Govenor? And I'm kinda surprised the let you vote at all, since you are a registered Independent. That's why, for most of the time I lived in NYC I was a registered Dem - they had the only "fun" primaries. The GOP knew it was gonna lose anyway in NYC and so their primaries were sorta looking for a sacrificial lamb type things!
Hey real, morning.
Yes, it was the gubernatorial primary, plus local offices. They let me vote in the primary last year, too. You just had to pick a side when you went in. They just handed me the R slip this time, so maybe they kept a record from last year. They disable the Dem info in the voting machine, or visa versa, when you got behind the curtain to vote.
436 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:01:03am |
re: #398 opnion
The radio just reported that Kim has Named his 26 year old son as his eventual successor in NK. The son is reputed to be proficient in English & a heavy drinker.
The son is also madder than a hatter according to some sources.
437 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:01:50am |
re: #416 realwest
I'm good thanks, although it's cold and overcast in Toronto. Feels more like March than June! I hope you're doing fine, too.
438 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:01:54am |
re: #405 Walter L. Newton
He'll get along splendidly with Ed Kennedy.
Can we give Kim Jr. a visit to the Cape and have Ted drive him around for a while?
439 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:02:05am |
re: #435 VioletTiger
Hey real, morning.
Yes, it was the gubernatorial primary, plus local offices. They let me vote in the primary last year, too. You just had to pick a side when you went in. They just handed me the R slip this time, so maybe they kept a record from last year. They disable the Dem info in the voting machine, or visa versa, when you got behind the curtain to vote.
Might I ask which candidate you voted for?
440 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:02:17am |
re: #427 iceweasel
AFAIK, ALL the folks implicated/indicted for Abu Graib have been prosecuted. Leastwise US military personnel. Don't know about civilian contractors.
441 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:02:32am |
re: #430 Kosh's Shadow
Great. A heavy drinker in charge of a nuclear button.
What could possibly go wrong?
442 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:03:20am |
re: #416 realwest
Reminds me of the Night M. Shamalamalamadingdong movie Signs. Good Mel Gibson film before he went insane!
443 | opnion Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:03:25am |
re: #436 johnnyreb
The son is also madder than a hatter according to some sources.
Wonder how the NK military will react.
444 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:03:36am |
re: #422 SteveC
Is he sure he wants to know what is in Iran's clenched fist?
When will the TOTUS realize it's impossible for Ahmadinejad to unclench his fist so long as it's up Obama's wazzoo.
445 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:03:38am |
re: #426 Kenneth
The very first set of crop circles were created by a group of British artists. They documented the entire procedure. It was all a big art project. It never occurred to them that nutbars would latch onto it and claim the designs were made by aliens. When the artists released the video of how they created the crop circles, the "experts" ignored them. That's how ridiculous some people are. It explains how some people will insist on believing the most bizarre stories, simply because they want to believe bizarre stories.
Farmers can be an interesting bunch. I have to find that link to the shepherds who put lights on a flock of sheep and made the Mona Lisa. Way too much time on their hands.
446 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:04:02am |
re: #397 Walter L. Newton
Er, if he's convicted of rape, right?
naturally, only if he's convicted. But there are photos of him doing it and he's currently only the subject of a civil case, which doesn't carry the possibility of jail time.
447 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:04:09am |
re: #433 Kosh's Shadow
I always wanted the submarine you could sit in, but my father never got it for me. I realize now it was probably cardboard and would fall apart the first time I tried to get in it.
I would order the 100 fighting men! (Plastic toy soldiers) everytime I could afford them. I had a whole freakin ARMY to defend my one little Sea Monkey that lived.
The sea monkey finally died, I think because he wasn't getting any.
448 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:04:11am |
re: #431 lawhawk
I assume you checked the quote and the context/nuance? I just don't trust the reporting anymore. It's so easy to cause a right wing flip out that I think the press is intentionally pushing slightly bogus stories.
449 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:04:22am |
re: #356 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward! Hope you're doing well today. Just finished that interview with Obama's uncle and I just wanted to say Thank You for linking to that.
450 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:04:24am |
Hold on a minute. I see that Walter upthread says that GM has sold Hummer but it's a 'secret' buyer.
What gall! By Cracky, I own that company, or at least I'm paying to keep the doors open. I ain't the kind to buy a pig in a poke, I want full disclosure as to what the heck they be doing with my money!
Secret buyers and the like? Man, that's for private companies, not publicly owned organizations. Publicly owned companies must be open and transparent so I can see that my money isn't being wasted, or my assets squandered in favor of some select few.
451 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:05:21am |
re: #442 rwdflynavy
Reminds me of the Night M. Shamalamalamadingdong movie Signs. Good Mel Gibson film before he went insane!
Very underrated film , AFAIC. Most of the reviews & people I know focused on the *SPOLIER ALERT!* alien's aversion to water, but invading a planet 75% covered in water, but that wasn't the point of the story. The idea of faith & fate was.
452 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:05:26am |
re: #443 opnion
If they want to do a coup, they can. I figure their military is real good about taking orders from higher authority.
454 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:05:31am |
re: #431 lawhawk
Obama: Iran has a right to nuclear power.
Ah, legitimate rights and aspirations. Yeah, no word on what form that nuclear power will take... whether it will be a controlled nuclear reaction, or an uncontrolled reaction that creates artificial daylight.
Yeah, this Middle East trip is going to be blog-fodder alright. It's already getting off to a flying start.
I could get banned for saying what form nuclear "power" should take in Iran.
456 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:06:01am |
re: #425 Chicken Kiev
402 pingjockey
Actually, the Telegraph is more "on our side" than most. This Telegraph columnist was completely scathing in his excoriation of Obama and co.
There's a reason why the telegraph is nicknamed the Torygraph over there! It's very conservative.
457 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:06:31am |
re: #430 Kosh's Shadow
Great. A heavy drinker in charge of a nuclear button.
Ulysses S Grant was a heavy Drinker. So was Winston Churchill. Just saying.
458 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:06:47am |
re: #439 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Might I ask which candidate you voted for?
Sure. I voted for Chris Christie. I have followed his campaign from January.
Are you in NJ?
459 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:06:56am |
re: #436 johnnyreb
The son is also madder than a hatter according to some sources.
Runs in the family?
460 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:07:05am |
re: #456 iceweasel
Ah ha! Think I'll take the day off. Learned something new today!
461 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:07:18am |
re: #458 VioletTiger
Sure. I voted for Chris Christie. I have followed his campaign from January.
Are you in NJ?
In Philly, so I've been seeing & hearing both candidate's ads for the last few months.
462 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:07:36am |
re: #458 VioletTiger
Sure. I voted for Chris Christie. I have followed his campaign from January.
Are you in NJ?
I am but I haven't voted yet. When do the polls close?
463 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:08:02am |
Good morning.
I heard on NPR news this morning that Obama has said he could "imagine" having direct talks with Hizballah, "if they win elections".
Because, I guess, if they win elections, that somehow makes them NOT a jihadist, Islamic-supremacist terror gang, responsible for more US terrorism deaths than any group except AQ.
464 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:08:32am |
re: #457 Nevergiveup
Ulysses S Grant was a heavy Drinker. So was Winston Churchill. Just saying.
And Achmedinejad never touches the stuff, being a good muslim. Boozehounds:2, teetotalers:0.
466 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:08:51am |
re: #463 Occasional Reader
Good morning.
I heard on NPR news this morning that Obama has said he could "imagine" having direct talks with Hizballah, "if they win elections".
Because, I guess, if they win elections, that somehow makes them NOT a jihadist, Islamic-supremacist terror gang, responsible for more US terrorism deaths than any group except AQ.
Yeah, that would make them little d democrats.
467 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:09:01am |
re: #450 razorbacker
"By cracky"....strong words.
;-)
468 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:09:22am |
re: #456 iceweasel
There's a reason why the telegraph is nicknamed the Torygraph over there! It's very conservative.
That's part of why its a good paper. It can be quite refreshing to read articles not written from a liberal viewpoint.
469 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:09:28am |
re: #451 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
but invading a planet 75% covered in water,
"... and we thank you, Lord, for your hilarious idea of covering 75% of the world's surface with water that's poisonous for us to drink."
-Rev. Lovejoy
470 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:10:22am |
re: #440 pingjockey
AFAIK, ALL the folks implicated/indicted for Abu Graib have been prosecuted. Leastwise US military personnel. Don't know about civilian contractors.
Well, no.
The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld’s decision embittered the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of élite combat units, and hurt America’s prospects in the war on terror.
According to interviews with several past and present American intelligence officials, the Pentagon’s operation, known inside the intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green, encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing insurgency in Iraq. A senior C.I.A. official, in confirming the details of this account last week, said that the operation stemmed from Rumsfeld’s long-standing desire to wrest control of America’s clandestine and paramilitary operations from the C.I.A.
The fact that there was a "programme" in place is quite well documented.
The argument should be about the legality and necessity of such a programme.
471 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:10:38am |
re: #405 Walter L. Newton
Hey if your father was Kim, wouldn't you be a heavy drinker too (I know you used to be a drinker, me too, I'm just making a teeny attempt at humor here)?
472 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:10:58am |
re: #450 razorbacker
It's nothing to get excited about. General Motors strikes deal to sell its Hummer brand
Bankrupt automaker General Motors said Tuesday it reached a tentative deal to sell Hummer, its military-styled off-road vehicle.The company did not disclose the buyer's name or the value of the deal. The sale is expected to close by the end of the third quarter.
In a release, GM /quotes/comstock/11i!gmgmq (GMGMQ 0.65, -0.10, -13.33%) said the deal should secure more than 3,000 manufacturing, engineering and dealership jobs in the U.S. Hummer will also continue to contract vehicle services from GM during a defined transitional time period.
The deal includes plans by the investor to aggressively fund future Hummer product programs, the automaker said.
The deal is still pending. This is a good thing and should upset people. No conspiracy, no secrecy and no socialism.
473 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:00am |
Todays Islamo science lesson:
"did u know that the Magnetic Field of Earth are the Angels?"
Teach the controversy!
474 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:09am |
re: #444 Kenneth
When will the TOTUS realize it's impossible for Ahmadinejad to unclench his fist so long as it's up Obama's wazzoo.
I thought Larry Sinclair was the only man allowed near 0bama's wazzoo.
475 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:48am |
re: #447 SteveC
I would order the 100 fighting men! (Plastic toy soldiers) everytime I could afford them. I had a whole freakin ARMY to defend my one little Sea Monkey that lived.
The sea monkey finally died, I think because he wasn't getting any.
You do know that the Sea Monkeys are just little shrimp things, right? ;)
Unlike the Sea Kittens.....
476 | pingjockey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:50am |
re: #470 HAL2010
Whatever. I don't believe the New Yorker either.
477 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:51am |
re: #469 Occasional Reader
"... and we thank you, Lord, for your hilarious idea of covering 75% of the world's surface with water that's poisonous for us to drink."
-Rev. Lovejoy
Must have missed that episode. The only salt water Simpsons reference I can think of was one of Lisa's beach friends, who thanked her for teaching him about science & why you shouldn't drink sea water.
478 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:52am |
re: #445 VioletTiger
Farmers can be an interesting bunch. I have to find that link to the shepherds who put lights on a flock of sheep and made the Mona Lisa. Way too much time on their hands.
That's actually one of the more benign things that shepherds with way too much time on their hands can do with a flock of sheep.
479 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:11:53am |
re: #473 Jimmah
Todays Islamo science lesson:
"did u know that the Magnetic Field of Earth are the Angels?"
[Video]Teach the controversy!
*pounds head on table*
480 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:12:08am |
re: #457 Nevergiveup
Ulysses S Grant was a heavy Drinker. So was Winston Churchill. Just saying.
Yes, and we kept them from getting their hands on any nukes, too!
481 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:12:10am |
re: #443 opnion
Wonder how the NK military will react.
Hope he didn't inherit his dad's fashion sense. Hope Lil' Lil' Kim uniform is a Bulls jersey and Air Jordans.
482 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:12:10am |
re: #457 Nevergiveup
Ulysses S Grant was a heavy Drinker. So was Winston Churchill. Just saying.
But Grant and Churchill were leaders of democracies. Puny Kim will be the ruler (& not "leader") of a dictatorship. Big difference.
483 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:12:22am |
re: #460 pingjockey
Ah ha! Think I'll take the day off. Learned something new today!
Cool! Have fun!
I have to run off myself-- so long lizards, see you soon. Hope everyone has a great day.
484 | VioletTiger Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:13:03am |
re: #462 Nevergiveup
I am but I haven't voted yet. When do the polls close?
They close at 8 so you still have time.
485 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:13:10am |
re: #464 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
And Achmedinejad never touches the stuff, being a good muslim. Boozehounds:2, teetotalers:0.
"When I was younger I made it a rule never to take strong drink before lunch. It is now my rule never to do so before breakfast".
- Churchill
486 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:13:57am |
“Never Trust a Man That Doesn’t Drink” - William Claude Dukenfield %-)
487 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:01am |
Obama is making nice with every tyrant on the face of the earth and at the same time gearing up to give Israel a protrological exam? Go figure? "Hey train them satellite's on the West Bank. I want a count of all the hammers and nails. Now! What do ya mean how? Go ask Jim Baker"!
488 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:02am |
re: #468 Dark_Falcon
That's part of why its a good paper. It can be quite refreshing to read articles not written from a liberal viewpoint.
Damn straight. Important to read both sides, I think. Always. Even if you don't agree with them.
489 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:06am |
re: #477 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Must have missed that episode.
It had something to do with the Simpsons as settlers in colonial New England, possibly from the Mayflower, IIRC.
490 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:10am |
re: #467 redstateredneck
"By cracky"....strong words.
;-)
Don't rile me, or I'll lay a dagnabit on you just for good measure.
I'm only half joking. Government should be, umm, transparent I believe is the word I've been hearing.
I don't want to start any rumours or anything, but I'm starting to suspect that President Obama may have some slight problem with the truth.
491 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:29am |
re: #471 realwest
Hey if your father was Kim, wouldn't you be a heavy drinker too?
There probably a lot of truth to that. Kim Jong Il is a sociopathic monster. It's hard to imagine he could raise a normal child.
493 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:50am |
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
494 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:14:59am |
495 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:15:06am |
re: #480 haakondahl
Yes, and we kept them from getting their hands on any nukes, too!
Uh, Churchill was Prime Minister of the UK from 1951-55, and did control nuclear weapons.
496 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:15:27am |
re: #480 haakondahl
Yes, and we kept them from getting their hands on any nukes, too!
I am pretty sure when Churchill regained power in the 50's he had nukes. Just for Historical accuracy.
497 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:15:38am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
It's nothing to get excited about. General Motors strikes deal to sell its Hummer brand
Big deal, 14th street here in DC is full of women selling Hummers.
498 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:15:41am |
re: #490 razorbacker
I don't want to start any rumours or anything, but I'm starting to suspect that President Obama may have some slight problem with the truth.
Surely you jest!
499 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:15:44am |
re: #491 Kenneth
There probably a lot of truth to that. Kim Jong Il is a sociopathic monster. It's hard to imagine he could raise a normal child.
Guess the future is not too bright for Sasha and Malia Obama then.
500 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:15:59am |
re: #495 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Uh, Churchill was Prime Minister of the UK from 1951-55, and did control nuclear weapons.
And the way things are going over here for Gordon Brown, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has not already hit the bottle pretty badly.
501 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:16:26am |
re: #497 Occasional Reader
Big deal, 14th street here in DC is full of women selling Hummers.
Gives new meaning to "four on the floor."
502 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:16:37am |
re: #495 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Uh, Churchill was Prime Minister of the UK from 1951-55, and did control nuclear weapons.
We gotta keep these lizards on their toes ha?
503 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:16:43am |
On Drudge ... Obama says Iran has right to nuclear power ... wtf ... how is he going to spin that? ...
504 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:02am |
re: #457 Nevergiveup
re: #430 Kosh's Shadow
Great. A heavy drinker in charge of a nuclear button.
Ulysses S Grant was a heavy Drinker. So was Winston Churchill. Just saying.
Of course, neither had nuclear weapons.
(If Grant had had nukes, the Civil War definitely would have gone rather differently...)
505 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:14am |
re: #473 Jimmah
Todays Islamo science lesson:
"did u know that the Magnetic Field of Earth are the Angels?"
Teach the controversy!
Maybe we can get the makers of that video jobs with the Disco Institute.
506 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:21am |
re: #500 HAL2010
And the way things are going over here for Gordon Brown, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has not already hit the bottle pretty badly.
Well in Gorden Brown's case, it could only make him a better leader?
507 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:26am |
re: #503 JacksonTn
On Drudge ... Obama says Iran has right to nuclear power ... wtf ... how is he going to spin that? ...
The Koran told him it was alright.
508 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:31am |
re: #501 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Gives new meaning to "four on the floor."
Around the University in NYC they call that the Columbia Clutch! :)
509 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:44am |
This whole..Øbama as President thing...doesn't seem to be going all that well.
510 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:53am |
re: #504 Occasional Reader
Of course, neither had nuclear weapons.
(If Grant had had nukes, the Civil War definitely would have gone rather differently...)
The South shall rise again.... as radioactive zombies.
511 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:17:58am |
re: #504 Occasional Reader
Of course, neither had nuclear weapons.
(If Grant had had nukes, the Civil War definitely would have gone rather differently...)
Well as we have pointed out, Winnie did.
512 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:18:02am |
re: #495 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Uh, Churchill was Prime Minister of the UK from 1951-55, and did control nuclear weapons.
Oh, those were British nukes, they don't count.
513 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:18:38am |
re: #490 razorbacker
I don't want to start any rumours or anything, but I'm starting to suspect that President Obama may have some slight problem with the truth.
Well, I be.
514 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:18:54am |
Good morning y'all!
I just read that they have found the debris field left by that Air France Airbus, and that they have detected a black box signal. Hopefully they will be able to recover it.
515 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:18:54am |
re: #512 Occasional Reader
Oh, those were British nukes, they don't count.
No Nukes Please, We're British!
516 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:19:11am |
re: #511 Nevergiveup
Well as we have pointed out, Winnie did.
Brit nukes are sort of like unarmed Brit police; they're designed to simply loiter over the target area saying "whot's all this, then?".
517 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:19:25am |
re: #470 HAL2010
The report you linked to is by Seymoure Hersh. He has some serious credibility issues.
518 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:19:39am |
519 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:20:02am |
re: #503 JacksonTn
On Drudge ... Obama says Iran has right to nuclear power ... wtf ... how is he going to spin that? ...
He spins it by directing you to click to link, and this is the first two (!) sentences:
President Barack Obama suggested that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it proves by the end of the year that its aspirations are peaceful.
In a BBC interview broadcast Tuesday, he also restated plans to pursue direct diplomacy with Tehran to encourage it set aside any ambitions for nuclear weapons it might harbor.
Obama loves Iranian nukes. Really.
520 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:20:25am |
Øbama:"What I do believe is that Iran has legitimate energy concerns, legitimate aspirations,"
Would someone please!...slap me or slap him? One of us is asleep.
521 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:20:55am |
re: #514 KansasMom
Good morning y'all!
I just read that they have found the debris field left by that Air France Airbus, and that they have detected a black box signal. Hopefully they will be able to recover it.
Just saw that. At least they'll know where to search now. Yesterday there was talk that it may never be found.
522 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:21:05am |
re: #514 KansasMom
Good morning y'all!
I just read that they have found the debris field left by that Air France Airbus, and that they have detected a black box signal. Hopefully they will be able to recover it.
They'd better. This is not looking good for Airbus.
A talking head yesterday said that the plane that went down was a sister ship to Boeing's 777. I bet they crapped their drawers at Boeing when they heard that!
523 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:21:07am |
re: #506 Nevergiveup
Well in Gorden Brown's case, it could only make him a better leader?
The only thing that would make 0bama or Brown good leaders would be if they announced their resignation effective immediately.
524 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:21:28am |
re: #506 Nevergiveup
Well in Gorden Brown's case, it could only make him a better leader?
Well ... yes
But I don't want to give him any ideas.
525 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:21:30am |
re: #516 Occasional Reader
Brit nukes are sort of like unarmed Brit police; they're designed to simply loiter over the target area saying "whot's all this, then?".
Their last nuclear missile project was the Blue Streak, which has a certain Monty Python-esque ring to it.
526 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:21:49am |
re: #522 SteveC
They'd better. This is not looking good for Airbus.
A talking head yesterday said that the plane that went down was a sister ship to Boeing's 777. I bet they crapped their drawers at Boeing when they heard that!
Idiot pundits.
527 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:22:05am |
wait ... does Obama think it is okay for us to have nuclear power here? ... why does he think it is okay for Iran? ... I am totally confused ... is this in preparation for his Bow Tour? ...
528 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:22:21am |
re: #517 Kenneth
The report you linked to is by Seymoure Hersh. He has some serious credibility issues.
No way, dude! He has, like, totally supersecret contacts in the supersecret Black Ops community, that are so supersecret, he can't tell us anything about them! We just have to trust him.
//
529 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:22:28am |
re: #509 unrealizedviewpoint
This whole..Øbama as President thing...doesn't seem to be going all that well.
LOL weally?
530 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:22:53am |
re: #525 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Their last nuclear missile project was the Blue Streak, which has a certain Monty Python-esque ring to it.
Did it cuss?
/cussing up a blue streak
532 | soxfan4life Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:23:17am |
re: #527 JacksonTn
wait ... does Obama think it is okay for us to have nuclear power here? ... why does he think it is okay for Iran? ... I am totally confused ... is this in preparation for his Bow Tour? ...
Can you see Ahmedinajahd doing his own version of Shaq's rap? How's my ass taste Barack?
533 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:23:17am |
re: #517 Kenneth
Don't know him, but perhaps this is better?
Or is it to left leaning?
534 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:23:18am |
re: #437 Kenneth
Yep, I'm doing just fine today, thanks! Got a friend coming over in a few minutes for a nice long visit - we'll get to vent our spleens (friend is Republican/Conservative as well) and have a good time laughing at Obama and crew!
536 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:23:52am |
In reference to the other Kim son... who won't be getting the job...
"Kim considers the middle son, Jong Chol, too effeminate for the job, according to his former sushi chef."
Why does this sound like something from a SNL skit?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
537 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:24:10am |
re: #525 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Their last nuclear missile project was the Blue Streak, which has a certain Monty Python-esque ring to it.
A good name, but I think even better one for them would have been the M-X897 "Spot of Bother".
538 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:24:10am |
re: #522 SteveC
They'd better. This is not looking good for Airbus.
A talking head yesterday said that the plane that went down was a sister ship to Boeing's 777. I bet they crapped their drawers at Boeing when they heard that!
That's like saying a Mercedes is a sister car to a Lexus.
In this case, both airliners (777 and Airbus 330) are similar size, two engine, somewhat long range aircraft.
But there are differences in design philosophy, and certainly many in the design itself.
539 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:24:34am |
re: #504 Occasional Reader
If Grant had had nukes, the Civil War definitely would have gone rather differently...
And if Hannibal had Chinook helicopters, he could have airlifted his elephants over the alps!
541 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:25:09am |
re: #519 HAL2010
Obama loves Iranian nukes. Really.
They need nuclear energy. Its not like their sitting on a sh!t load of oil. Duh.
//
543 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:25:36am |
re: #522 SteveC
They'd better. This is not looking good for Airbus.
A talking head yesterday said that the plane that went down was a sister ship to Boeing's 777. I bet they crapped their drawers at Boeing when they heard that!
No, the rumor around here is that the Air France plane was in maintenance just a few weeks ago. If true, that's not good. (I haven't seen anything to confirm this however)
A sister ship to the 777? Oops.
544 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:25:39am |
re: #498 SteveC
Surely you jest!
re: #513 redstateredneck
Well, I be.
I know. You could have knocked me over with a 2x4 when the idea first came to me.
It may not be a problem with the truth. It may just be that President Obama is simply like those adolescent girls who want something to be true so badly that they simply start to believe that it is true, and act accordingly. That's been the prime cause of generations of young ladies to find themselves flat on their backs with their heels in the air.
545 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:25:44am |
More from the nut who posted the magnetic field angels video:
The Bahais, The Jews, The Masons, George Bush, Sauron, Hitler, South Park, Pixar's Monsters Inc - it all adds up to one thing - NWO TROOF!
546 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:25:53am |
re: #538 Kosh's Shadow
That's like saying a Mercedes is a sister car to a Lexus.
In this case, both airliners (777 and Airbus 330) are similar size, two engine, somewhat long range aircraft.
But there are differences in design philosophy, and certainly many in the design itself.
Not to mention that the Boeing Rep would knife the airbus guy if he thought it would cement a sale... but that's ok, because the Airbus man would cut his brake lines in a skinny minute.
547 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:26:25am |
re: #538 Kosh's Shadow
That's like saying a Mercedes is a sister car to a Lexus.
In this case, both airliners (777 and Airbus 330) are similar size, two engine, somewhat long range aircraft.
But there are differences in design philosophy, and certainly many in the design itself.
I think it would have been more accurate to say a 'competitor' to Boeing's 777.
548 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:27:25am |
re: #448 Killgore Trout
Surely you don't think the WaPo would do that, do you?! Not where Obama is concerned, anyway.
549 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:27:37am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
In reference to the other Kim son... who won't be getting the job...
"Kim considers the middle son, Jong Chol, too effeminate for the job, according to his former sushi chef."
Why does this sound like something from a SNL skit?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
One Free Korea thinks the next great leader will be Kim Jong Un.
550 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:27:45am |
re: #545 Jimmah
More from the nut who posted the magnetic field angels video:
[Video]The Bahais, The Jews, The Masons, George Bush, Sauron, Hitler, South Park, Pixar's Monsters Inc - it all adds up to one thing - NWO TROOF!
Throw in Charlton Heston and a cast of thousands and you have a Cecile B. DeMille movie!
551 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:28:16am |
US Stocks Gain After Data Shows Jump In Pending Home Sales
The National Association of Realtors said pending sales of existing homes in April rose 6.7% - the biggest monthly jump in eight years. The data built on a flurry of other recent reports suggesting that the housing market and the broader economy are stabilizing.
Coming into Tuesday's action, the Dow was less than 55 points from break-even for the year, and the S&P was up 4.4% for the year to date following a round of buying sparked by optimism about manufacturing activity around the world.
Professional traders and money managers are growing optimistic that the market's momentum can feed on itself for a few more weeks, at least. A consensus is emerging on trading floors that there is little standing in the way of a run by the S&P to 1000 in the near term, though the index may turn volatile as investors reckon with the lingering effects of the long-running global recession.
552 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:28:17am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
"Kim considers the middle son, Jong Chol, too effeminate for the job, according to his former sushi chef."
According to the same source, Jong Chol has also not made his position known on Roe v. Wade; is too soft of Wasabi-brand Islamic fundamentalism; is is too easily rolled in negotiations.
553 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:29:17am |
re: #546 SteveC
Not to mention that the Boeing Rep would knife the airbus guy if he thought it would cement a sale... but that's ok, because the Airbus man would cut his brake lines in a skinny minute.
One difference in design philosophy - in the Airbus aircraft, the flight control computer has absolute authority to enforce its programmed limits to avoid damaging the aircraft.
In Boeing aircraft, the pilot can override the limits if he feels it is necessary, like to avoid crashing.
There has been at least one Airbus crash (a demo flight) due to the computer's limits.
"Sorry, Dave, I cannot do that". CRASH!
554 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:29:18am |
re: #453 taxfreekiller
Good morning TFK! I prefer the phrase "Chicago Street Thug Three Card Monte dealer" myself - LOOK! What's that over there?!
555 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:29:32am |
re: #549 HAL2010
One Free Korea thinks the next great leader will be Kim Jong Un.
Given that Kim Jong Un has already been named the next leader, you may be on to something.
556 | SteveC Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:29:34am |
Time to go myself. The cup is almost empty and the coffee is cold. :(
Everyone have a great day!
557 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:29:35am |
re: #539 Kenneth
And if Hannibal had Chinook helicopters, he could have airlifted his elephants over the alps!
"What if Spartacus had had a Cessna?"
-Old SNL skit
558 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:29:35am |
re: #548 realwest
I took a quick skim of the article. Obama's saying that they have to let inspectors in if they want to continue. No different from the Bush years.
559 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:30:06am |
re: #552 Occasional Reader
According to the same source, Jong Chol has also not made his position known on Roe v. Wade; is too soft of Wasabi-brand Islamic fundamentalism; is is too easily rolled in negotiations.
When I clipped and pasted that sentence from the Washington Post article, I was thinking of you. I actually laughed to myself thing "OR is going to run with that." My faith in you has never been stronger, son.
560 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:30:07am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
In reference to the other Kim son... who won't be getting the job...
"Kim considers the middle son, Jong Chol, too effeminate for the job, according to his former sushi chef."
Why does this sound like something from a SNL skit?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Swish with the fish?
561 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:30:18am |
re: #552 Occasional Reader
Ha ha, you very furikake. I laugh so hard I saba.
563 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:31:03am |
re: #545 Jimmah
More from the nut who posted the magnetic field angels video:
[Video]The Bahais, The Jews, The Masons, George Bush, Sauron, Hitler, South Park, Pixar's Monsters Inc - it all adds up to one thing - NWO TROOF!
OK, forget the DI (they're not that nuts). With an act like that he could work for Alex Jones!
564 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:31:18am |
re: #553 Kosh's Shadow
BTW, I don't think the flight control limits had anything to do with this crash.
If it was lightening, Airbus has some work to do; if it was turbulence, they could as well. Neither should have caused such a catastrophic failure that nothing could get transmitted, unless there was something wrong with the aircraft.
565 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:31:19am |
re: #553 Kosh's Shadow
One difference in design philosophy - in the Airbus aircraft, the flight control computer has absolute authority to enforce its programmed limits to avoid damaging the aircraft.
In Boeing aircraft, the pilot can override the limits if he feels it is necessary, like to avoid crashing.
There has been at least one Airbus crash (a demo flight) due to the computer's limits."Sorry, Dave, I cannot do that". CRASH!
Isn't that a nice analogy for European vs American philosophy in general? er, maybe it was....
566 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:31:22am |
re: #541 KenJen
They need nuclear energy. Its not like their sitting on a sh!t load of oil. Duh.
//
You and the ..publican's are just against the Iranian's having control over their power future.
/
567 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:31:35am |
re: #552 Occasional Reader
According to the same source, Jong Chol has also not made his position known on Roe v. Wade; is too soft of Wasabi-brand Islamic fundamentalism; is is too easily rolled in negotiations.
Soy-vey!
569 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:32:07am |
571 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:32:35am |
re: #565 KansasMom
Isn't that a nice analogy for European vs American philosophy in general? er, maybe it was....
Yes, it is an analogy. Up until now.
572 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:33:12am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
No conspiracy, no secrecy and no socialism.
KT, they have at least $17 billion of our money.
They should disclose the buyer and the specifics of the deal.
573 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:33:41am |
574 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:34:11am |
re: #470 HAL2010
Well HAL2010 - nice to know you use perfectly non-ideological references who are careful not to name names, eh?
Wouldn't want to take away the ever popular "annonymous", but always "well-placed" sources for stories like these.
575 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:35:06am |
Let the seething begin!
Iran Gets July 4 Invite From Obama
In a new overture to Iran, the Obama administration has authorized U.S. embassies around the world to invite Iranian officials to Independence Day parties they host on or around July 4th.
A State Department cable sent to all U.S. embassies and consulates late last week said that U.S. diplomats could ask their Iranian counterparts to attend the festivities, which generally feature speeches about American values, fireworks, and, of course, hot dogs and hamburgers.
The notice, sent on Friday, said that the posts "may invite representatives from the government of Iran" to the events, a State Department official said Tuesday, quoting from the document. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an internal communication.
576 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:35:12am |
re: #550 SteveC
Throw in Charlton Heston and a cast of thousands and you have a Cecile B. DeMille movie!
"Take your hands off of me, you damned creationist wacko!"
/Sorry, I couldn't resist with the Heston reference thrown in there.
577 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:36:07am |
re: #572 3 wood
They will after the sale goes through. I think the article said the sale will be finalized in the 3rd quarter.
578 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:36:15am |
re: #557 Occasional Reader
"What if Spartacus had had a Cessna?"
-Old SNL skit
What if Isaac Newton had an iMac?
579 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:36:23am |
UPDATE - UPDATE - In case anyone missed this...
I finally was able to get Dustyvet on the phone yesterday. I had not heard from him since before the funeral, and there were some Lizards asking about him yesterday.
He's fine, talking things slow, he'll be back, when he feels ready, and he will be sending out thank you notes as he can.
So, basically, as he said "I haven't removed the screen on the window and decided to go airborne" but he is taking this who thing slowly.
So, he probably could still use some prayers, if you are disposed to that.
580 | aggieann Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:36:34am |
re: #544 razorbacker
It may not be a problem with the truth. It may just be that President Obama is simply like those adolescent girls who want something to be true so badly that they simply start to believe that it is true, and act accordingly.
Obama is doing exactly what is required of him under Saul Alinsky and Cloward & Piven.
581 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:36:55am |
re: #569 Kosh's Shadow
Fugu, another fish pun thread.
You want more sushi puns? Go ahead... maki my day.
582 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:37:08am |
re: #575 Killgore Trout
Let the seething begin!
KT ... well, they might as well send Billy Ayers an invite too ... and Calypso Louie ... why on July 4th? ...
583 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:37:10am |
re: #564 Kosh's Shadow
BTW, I don't think the flight control limits had anything to do with this crash.
If it was lightening, Airbus has some work to do; if it was turbulence, they could as well. Neither should have caused such a catastrophic failure that nothing could get transmitted, unless there was something wrong with the aircraft.
Almost all aircraft crashes are caused by a serious of events, rarely just a single event or mechanical issue. Its usually a combination of more than one of the following: mechanical trouble, maintenance mistakes, inadequate pilot training, air traffic control mistakes, weather/environment conditions.
584 | haakondahl Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:37:11am |
re: #522 SteveC
They'd better. This is not looking good for Airbus.
A talking head yesterday said that the plane that went down was a sister ship to Boeing's 777. I bet they crapped their drawers at Boeing when they heard that!
Has anybody here noticed the U2/UN/CNN/Airbus collective?
As much as I like the guy, it was almost alarming how quickly * RICHARD QUEST! * started gushing fulsome praise all over the A330-200.
Whenever an Airbus gets in trouble (and especially when Airbus the company / EADS) gets in trouble, * RICHARD QUEST! * will clean it all up.
585 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:37:12am |
586 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:37:29am |
re: #579 Walter L. Newton
Thanks for letting us know. My prayers & best wishes go out for him.
587 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:37:32am |
re: #497 Occasional Reader
Big deal, 14th street here in DC is full of women selling Hummers.
Ah, you forgot to add "so I've heard".........just saying O.R., now that you're a happily married man, let's try to keep it that way, eh?!
588 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:39:41am |
re: #577 Killgore Trout
They will after the sale goes through. I think the article said the sale will be finalized in the 3rd quarter.
In the public sector (which I know a lot about and GM is now a part of) there are usually public hearings to discuss and disclose the sale of public assets, time for taking input, and then a vote.
589 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:39:57am |
BB later - I have to go to downtown Denver to pick up some meds.
590 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:40:13am |
re: #517 Kenneth
The report you linked to is by Seymoure Hersh. He has some serious credibility issues.
To say the least.
591 | 3 wood Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:40:21am |
re: #579 Walter L. Newton
So, he probably could still use some prayers, if you are disposed to that.
Will do.
592 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:40:24am |
re: #575 Killgore Trout
Let the seething begin!
Great: Invite people who hate patriotic Americans to social events where they'll be lots of them. That's sure to go well.
/sarc
593 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:40:40am |
Right, I don't know where these figures are from which report from the IMFre: #573 Kenneth
"Already been named".
For heavens sake, both articles you and I linked to were published today. You make it sound as though I am the last man on earth to know about Lil'Kims successor.
re: #574 realwest
It has been pointed out (No idea who he is though), so I direct you here:
Salon on American torture.
595 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:41:34am |
re: #592 Dark_Falcon
Great: Invite people who hate patriotic Americans to social events where they'll be lots of them. That's sure to go well.
/sarc
The article almost sounds like a joke.
Oops! Am I "seething"?
596 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:41:43am |
Did Obama announce the end of used cars?
In his speech about the GM bankruptcy yesterday, President Barack Obama (from the New York Times) said:
And that’s why I’m calling on Congress to pass fleet modernization legislation that can provide a credit to consumers who turn in old cars and purchase cleaner, more fuel-efficient cars. (emphasis added)
Turn in old cars. It’s long been a talking point of liberals and environmentalists that cars older than a given age should be removed from the highways. The usual mantra goes “The government should buy all cars older than X and pay the owner $750. Then the owner could go out and buy a newer, cleaner, more efficient car.” The advocates for this position either fail or refuse to understand that the owners will not be able to find a car to buy with their $750. Basic economics.
Jay Leno might reconsider his support of the Obamanation if this comes to pass.
597 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:42:11am |
re: #584 haakondahl
It's something noticable in the MSM (or as Mandy calls it, the MFM) as a whole. Airbus has a plane go down, the apologists come out. Boeing has a plane go down, they attack Boeing. GM goes bankrupt, they cheer. Toyota has a massive recall, it never gets reported. A jihadi whines about his stay at Gitmo, they listen and report. The US military pacifies Iraq and not a word is spoken by the MSM. There is a pattern here. The MSM as a whole is anti-American, period, full stop. It's a seamless garment of anti-Americanism they wear.
598 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:42:21am |
599 | JCM Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:42:29am |
Morning Honcos,
I see the Air France 447 debris field and black (orange) box signal has been detected.
Bodes well for recovery the box, it survived well enough the pinger is working and it should continue for 30 days. Just need to get a sub on site.
Historically it's very rare for a plane to suffer catastrophic inflight airframe failure. The de Havilland Comet in the late 50's being a notable example.
600 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:42:37am |
601 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:43:23am |
re: #596 razorbacker
Did Obama announce the end of used cars?
Jay Leno might reconsider his support of the Obamanation if this comes to pass.
Wow, where to begin, so many things wrong with this. Almost seems to crazy to be true, but at this point nothing would surprise me.
Don't they have somethign like this in Japan, where cars can't be more than X many years old?
602 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:43:31am |
re: #592 Dark_Falcon
Great: Invite people who hate patriotic Americans to social events where they'll be lots of them. That's sure to go well.
/sarc
We will offer an outstretched hand, placing a hot dog in their unclenched fist.
603 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:43:35am |
re: #585 johnnyreb
Bet they would enjoy a good hotdog and a beer.
A pure beef hotdog would be OK, why not make it a Hebrew National?
(Yes, that really is a brand of Kosher hotdog, and quite good I might add.)
604 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:43:48am |
re: #599 JCM
Morning Honcos,
I see the Air France 447 debris field and black (orange) box signal has been detected.
Bodes well for recovery the box, it survived well enough the pinger is working and it should continue for 30 days. Just need to get a sub on site.
Historically it's very rare for a plane to suffer catastrophic inflight airframe failure. The de Havilland Comet in the late 50's being a notable example.
Well the Comet has a structural defect. Already heard one "pundit" on TV suggest terrorism?
605 | JCM Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:44:17am |
re: #596 razorbacker
Did Obama announce the end of used cars?
Jay Leno might reconsider his support of the Obamanation if this comes to pass.
When the Iranians or Norks hit us with that EMP, only the old cars will be the ones running.
606 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:44:19am |
re: #582 JacksonTn
Embassy's usually have traditional July 4th celebrations with fire works and BBQ. It's a nice touch of Americana for those living abroad. In Obama's mind he probably thinks this will make the Iranians like us. The Iranian people already like us so that's not a problem. It's the oppressive Mullahs who run their government who hate us and that's not going to change.
607 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:44:21am |
608 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:44:29am |
re: #596 razorbacker
Did Obama announce the end of used cars?
Jay Leno might reconsider his support of the Obamanation if this comes to pass.
I wonder what Avanti thinks of this? It could affect his Studebaker market.
609 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:44:29am |
re: #599 JCM
The de Havilland Comet in the late 50's being a notable example.
Yep... those great pig "picture windows" carved out of the airframe turned out not to be such a great idea.
610 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:45:12am |
re: #601 KansasMom
Wow, where to begin, so many things wrong with this. Almost seems to crazy to be true, but at this point nothing would surprise me.
Don't they have somethign like this in Japan, where cars can't be more than X many years old?
My husband is in the auto parts business. He's been saying for the past several years that it will die out eventually. Look likes it's nearer than we anticipated.
612 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:45:35am |
re: #604 Nevergiveup
Well the Comet has a structural defect. Already heard one "pundit" on TV suggest terrorism?
Too early to know what happened. But at least with a debris field and possibly a black box there is hope that an investigation will be able to figure it out.
I doubt it was terrorism....no gloating video or claims or responsibility have come out.
613 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:03am |
re: #596 razorbacker
It's a bogus story.
614 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:07am |
re: #609 Occasional Reader
Yep... those great pig "picture windows" carved out of the airframe turned out not to be such a great idea.
That wasn't the problem. The problem was that they used windows that were squared off, increasing stress on that part of the airframe. Rounded windows solved the problem and reduced the stress.
615 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:19am |
re: #604 Nevergiveup
Well the Comet has a structural defect. Already heard one "pundit" on TV suggest terrorism?
If it was a terror attack, then it will be interesting to see how Obama reacts. America will expect to hear more stern words directed to the sponsors of the attack than "Unclench your fist."
616 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:19am |
re: #593 HAL2010
On Friday I posted a link from an article printed in January declaring Kim Un the next leader, which was commented on by several others. I'm sorry you missed it.
617 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:41am |
re: #601 KansasMom
Wow, where to begin, so many things wrong with this. Almost seems to crazy to be true, but at this point nothing would surprise me.
Don't they have somethign like this in Japan, where cars can't be more than X many years old?
I have an idea. Let's make things as difficult as we can for low and middle income Americans! Let's regulate their asses off!
618 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:52am |
re: #599 JCM
Must be a terrifying way to go. 35K up is a long way down with trouble all the way. I feel sorry for all of them.
619 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:46:59am |
re: #609 Occasional Reader
Yep... those great pig "picture windows" carved out of the airframe turned out not to be such a great idea.
The comet was a gorgeous plane. Too bad 'pretty' isn't always the best design structurally. Every jet designed since has learned from the comet though. If not for it, there would have been some other very painful lessons learned.
620 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:47:05am |
re: #612 KansasMom
Too early to know what happened. But at least with a debris field and possibly a black box there is hope that an investigation will be able to figure it out.
I doubt it was terrorism....no gloating video or claims or responsibility have come out.
Well maybe they learned gloating brings on Air to Ground Missiles?
621 | JCM Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:47:16am |
re: #604 Nevergiveup
Well the Comet has a structural defect. Already heard one "pundit" on TV suggest terrorism?
Square windows, the Comet was one of the first pressurized aircraft. The concept of cycling and metal fatigue was on yet understood. Cracks started at the corners of the windows, and the structure allow the crack to spread and result in a catastrophic airframe failure.
A bomb would have to be high on the list of things to rule out.
622 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:47:19am |
623 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:47:29am |
re: #585 johnnyreb
Bet they would enjoy a good hotdog and a beer.
Let's not tell them what hot dogs are made of. Oh wait...What are hot dogs made of?
624 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:47:51am |
re: #563 Dark_Falcon
OK, forget the DI (they're not that nuts). With an act like that he could work for Alex Jones!
I was going to say...a spot on Fox can't be too far off either!
625 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:48:12am |
re: #575 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I understand that we'd have invited them to the US Embassy in Teheran but they haven't allowed us to do much of anything there since, oh, 1979.
626 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:48:16am |
re: #622 MandyManners
Will he invite Lil' Kim for Thanksgiving?
Will The 0ne give DinnerJacket an iPod ?
627 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:48:22am |
A dog won’t bite if you beat him with a bone.
— Tom Waits
I'll take the high road
You take the Low Road
And you'll have a migraine before me.
628 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:48:33am |
re: #601 KansasMom
Wow, where to begin, so many things wrong with this. Almost seems to crazy to be true, but at this point nothing would surprise me.
Don't they have somethign like this in Japan, where cars can't be more than X many years old?
It would be a blow to folks like me. Prolly catch Avanti's attention, too.
I like cars. I've owned a bunch of them, but I have only bought 3 'new' cars, because I don't like to buy assests that drop in value like new cars do.
I'd hate to turn in my antique convertible.
629 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:48:50am |
re: #617 capitalist piglet
I have an idea. Let's make things as difficult as we can for low and middle income Americans! Let's regulate their asses off!
That seems to be the goal of the Progressives. I find it most interesting that inheritied wealth votes for candidates with socialistic tendencies (worldwide, not just in the US). In such a system, they lose nothing, but maintain their class while others cannot enter their class.
630 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:48:55am |
re: #610 redstateredneck
My husband is in the auto parts business. He's been saying for the past several years that it will die out eventually. Look likes it's nearer than we anticipated.
Some older cars still get great fuel efficiency. Last fill-up, I found I got 35.8 MPG in a 1999 Honda Civic with almost 170,000 miles.
I'd have to get a hybrid to do better, and most of my driving is highway, where hybrids don't see that much of an improvement.
631 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:49:07am |
re: #616 Kenneth
Me to, then I wouldn't have come across like a prat in my previous posts. But at least now I know.
What do we know about this fellow?
632 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:49:20am |
re: #623 KenJen
Let's not tell them what hot dogs are made of. Oh wait...What are hot dogs made of?
Crowd: The pig? The cow?
Krusty: You're wayyyy off. Think, "smaller"; and "more legs".
633 | astronmr20 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:49:55am |
re: #623 KenJen
I'd assume that all-beef kosher hot dogs are halal.
634 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:50:13am |
re: #613 Killgore Trout
It's a bogus story.
Actually no. It's not bogus. There is a govt plan to buy cars to get gas guzzlers off the road.
635 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:50:21am |
re: #626 sattv4u2
Will The 0ne give DinnerJacket an iPod ?
With Matisyahu, Israeli folk songs, and multiple versions of Hatikvah on it.
/I wish
636 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:50:29am |
re: #588 3 wood
Hey my friend - you mean to say that you think there should be some transparency about a transaction where some 15 odd Billion of Taxpayers' dollars are concerned?
How, how...........radical of you!
:)
637 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:50:45am |
re: #633 astronmr20
I'd assume that all-beef kosher hot dogs are halal.
And I would also assume that the US Gov. does not spring for those since they are more expensive.
638 | JCM Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:50:47am |
re: #618 BigPapa
Must be a terrifying way to go. 35K up is a long way down with trouble all the way. I feel sorry for all of them.
FL was 40 in report. If the cabin lost pressure and indications are it did, conciseness would be measured in seconds. At FL40 you need pressurized air to breath, those drop downs are pressurized just provide supplemental O2. The pilots have pressurized masks.
639 | astronmr20 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:50:57am |
re: #630 Kosh's Shadow
Some older cars still get great fuel efficiency. Last fill-up, I found I got 35.8 MPG in a 1999 Honda Civic with almost 170,000 miles.
I'd have to get a hybrid to do better, and most of my driving is highway, where hybrids don't see that much of an improvement.
My '71 volvo gets 31.
640 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:51:23am |
re: #633 astronmr20
I'd assume that all-beef kosher hot dogs are halal.
Yes, anything kosher is halal, but not the other way. (Kosher rules are more stringent.)
641 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:51:23am |
re: #634 unrealizedviewpoint
Actually no. It's not bogus. There is a govt plan to buy cars to get gas guzzlers off the road.
FWIW, I just saw the headline on MSN, before coming here.
642 | lawhawk Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:51:24am |
re: #448 Killgore Trout
I assume you checked the quote and the context/nuance? I just don't trust the reporting anymore. It's so easy to cause a right wing flip out that I think the press is intentionally pushing slightly bogus stories.
Here's the quote/context:
"What I do believe is that Iran has legitimate energy concerns, legitimate aspirations," Obama said, adding that the international community also "has a very real interest" in preventing a nuclear arms race.The president has indicated a willingness to seek deeper international sanctions against Tehran if it does not respond positively to U.S. attempts to open negotiations on its nuclear program. Obama has said Tehran has until the end of the year to show it wants to engage with Washington.
643 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:51:30am |
re: #579 Walter L. Newton
Yep and he's still on The LGF List as well.
644 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:52:56am |
re: #633 astronmr20
I'd assume that all-beef kosher hot dogs are halal.
Check out the 45 second mark.
646 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:53:32am |
re: #593 HAL2010
Yep, and nice of Salon to track their unbiased reporting and investigating on this matter for us as well.
/
647 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:54:07am |
re: #644 HAL2010
Check out the 45 second mark.
Does the video show the making of a hot dog? If so I'm not watching it. I won't let you ruin them for me./
648 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:54:27am |
649 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:54:32am |
re: #642 lawhawk
"What I do believe is that Iran has... legitimate aspirations"
By their own words, the chief "aspiration" of the current political leadership in Iran is to commit genocide. What's so hard to understand about this?
650 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:54:39am |
re: #647 KenJen
No, its from a British comedy show called Mock the Week.
651 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:55:04am |
re: #634 unrealizedviewpoint
Actually no. It's not bogus. There is a govt plan to buy cars to get gas guzzlers off the road.
Uncle Sam is dealing. A "cash for clunkers" proposal making its way through Congress would offer the owner of a gas-guzzling car or truck as much as $4,500 toward a newer, more-fuel-efficient vehicle.
Under the bill that passed the House on May 5 and a similar version under review in the Senate, qualifying clunkers must get 18 miles per gallon or less.
If the new car got 4 to 9 miles per gallon more than the old one, going by Environmental Protection Agency ratings, the payment would be $3,500. If the new car got at least 10 mpg more, the vehicle owner would get $4,500. For light trucks, the mileage gain would have to be at least 2 mpg for the $3,500 payment and 5 mpg for the $4,500.
Very much not bogus. I'm just waiting to see when the other shoe drops a la Japan's clunker laws.
652 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:55:08am |
654 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:56:00am |
re: #613 Killgore Trout
It's a bogus story.
It is the top of the slippery slope.
You start with a program that allows owners to voluntarily turn in their old cars for some amount of money. Owners look at the money offered, say 'I can't buy a new car for that" and decline the offer.
But it's all for the greater good, and individuals can't be allowed to stand in the path of the greater good.
655 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:56:00am |
re: #562 Killgore Trout
Freaky.
Check out the updings on the comments on this one (no need to watch/listen to the actual video). I don't think I've ever seen anything like that on you tube before.
The Islam zone on youtube is a strange and disturbing place.
656 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:56:47am |
United States President Barack Obama is dispatching his envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, to Israel in order to hear official responses to U.S. demands for a halt to West Bank settlement building.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
No real rush to action on that N Korea nuke thing, but Obama is gonna make dam sure those Israeli Carpenters get the word not to put one nail into wood on the west bank.
657 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:57:28am |
re: #655 Jimmah
Dang - that was a case of inappropriate embedding. Just double click to see the comments.
659 | realwest Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:57:44am |
Well y'all it's been real. Gotta run now, hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
661 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:58:02am |
re: #634 unrealizedviewpoint
Yes, that's part of modernizing the the national vehicle fleet. There's nothing in Obama's statement that the cars traded in will be destroyed. They'll be resold as they always have. This is not the end of used cars.
662 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:58:24am |
If the govt doesn't buy everyone a new car how else can GM (govt motors) become profitable again?
/
663 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:58:26am |
re: #646 realwest
Just what are you hinting at?
That it did not happen?
Perhaps the released memos are faked by the America-hating ACLU and ACORN?
664 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:59:07am |
re: #596 razorbacker
Did Obama announce the end of used cars?
Jay Leno might reconsider his support of the Obamanation if this comes to pass.
Is Obama really that clueless that he thinks people drive old clunkers because they are must meanyheads who want to foul up the environment? Has it really never occurred to him that people drive old cars because they can't afford to buy new cars?
Doofus.
665 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:59:42am |
re: #649 Occasional Reader
By their own words, the chief "aspiration" of the current political leadership in Iran is to commit genocide. What's so hard to understand about this?
The genocide part gets lost in the smog of hopeychange.
666 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 7:59:52am |
re: #642 lawhawk
Yeah, It doesn't seem substantially different from anything Bush said with the exception of this....
Obama has said Tehran has until the end of the year to show it wants to engage with Washington.
I wonder what happens when the year is out?
667 | SixDegrees Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:00:52am |
re: #613 Killgore Trout
It's a bogus story.
No, it's legit. Debate in Congress begins today, in fact.
668 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:01:49am |
re: #629 Honorary Yooper
That seems to be the goal of the Progressives. I find it most interesting that inheritied wealth votes for candidates with socialistic tendencies (worldwide, not just in the US). In such a system, they lose nothing, but maintain their class while others cannot enter their class.
Another pattern I've noticed: Place incredible burdens on the system, then criticize the system as not workable.
669 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:02:03am |
re: #655 Jimmah
Huh, Maybe the guy who posted it is spamming the rating system to move his video up in the search results.
670 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:02:18am |
re: #661 Killgore Trout
Yes, that's part of modernizing the the national vehicle fleet. There's nothing in Obama's statement that the cars traded in will be destroyed. They'll be resold as they always have. This is not the end of used cars.
One needs only Øbamavision to know where this is heading.
671 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:02:28am |
re: #664 Alouette
Is Obama really that clueless that he thinks people drive old clunkers because they are must meanyheads who want to foul up the environment? Has it really never occurred to him that people drive old cars because they can't afford to buy new cars?
Doofus.
He just thinks about his program and how good it will make the world. Facts contradicting those thought are unwelcome, he cannot be bothered with such facts.
/spits on CBBHO
672 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:02:29am |
re: #661 Killgore Trout
Yes, that's part of modernizing the the national vehicle fleet. There's nothing in Obama's statement that the cars traded in will be destroyed. They'll be resold as they always have. This is not the end of used cars.
Killgore, I'm going to call you naive on this one. There are countries out there that do make it tough to maintain an older vehicle. How long until this happens with this Congress and this President? It is the top of a slippery slope as someone upthread stated. There are some zealots out there, and you have to be very careful when they get near positions of power.
673 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:02:36am |
re: #654 razorbacker
There is NO free lunch!
That old saw has been around forever!
We'll make your payments if you lose your job......
We'll buy back your car ..................
We'll give you a puppy............
etc......etc......
Rush and Sean have to say this crap,
The auto Manuf... buy the airtime!
They must think we're all STUPID!
674 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:03:07am |
re: #664 Alouette
Is Obama really that clueless that he thinks people drive old clunkers because they are must meanyheads who want to foul up the environment? Has it really never occurred to him that people drive old cars because they can't afford to buy new cars?
Doofus.
If you consider the energy and materials needed to manufacture a new car, you could argue that people driving old cars are saving the environment too. The older and better maintained, the better.
675 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:03:40am |
re: #667 SixDegrees
Yes, they are offering tax incentives to get people to buy new cars. This is not a conspiracy to stop selling used cars. You people will believe anything these days.
676 | Preposter S Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:05:20am |
This passes for coverage on North Korea:
The eldest son, Jong Nam, 38, was considered the favorite to succeed his father until he was caught trying to enter Japan on a fake passport in 2001. He reportedly told Japanese officials he wanted to visit Tokyo's Disney resort.
Kim considers the middle son, Jong Chol, too effeminate for the job, according to his former sushi chef.
Just wow! what depth and insight into the world's most opaque nuclear family.
War could break out on the Korean peninsula at any moment and this is the full depth of learning we get on the subject.
I know that if I ran a Stalinist dictatorship, I would not let my effeminate son take over. No way! And a kid who wants to go to Disney cannot be trusted to run a People's Republic.......
The real failure is a US State department and intelligence community that do not share basic vital information with us. Only when we see the world clearly can the American public understand the right course of action.
677 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:05:44am |
re: #631 HAL2010
You are not a prat. I have breathlessly posted plenty of stories, only to find the others were all over it last week.
What we know is the lad is 26 years old, went to a private school in Switzerland, is shy and nervous, likes Michale Jordan and Jean Claude van Dam. And he drinks heavily. And soon he's going to be the God-King of a paranoid regime with nuclear weapons. What could go wrong?
678 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:06:18am |
re: #672 Honorary Yooper
It's nonsense. The are offering tax incentives to get people to buy new cars. That's a good thing for the economy. You guys can oppose this all you want and imagine all sorts of conspiracies while the Democrats actually do something positive to repair the economy.
679 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:06:40am |
re: #674 KansasMom
I sure wish I still had a couple of the old "clunkers" I had in my youth!
I could build a new home for the value they would be now!
Hindsight.....20/20!
680 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:06:47am |
re: #669 Killgore Trout
Not sure, but I don't think that works for ratings applied to the comments.
681 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:06:49am |
re: #618 BigPapa
Must be a terrifying way to go. 35K up is a long way down with trouble all the way. I feel sorry for all of them.
I sincerely hope they were able to pass out.
682 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:06:58am |
re: #664 Alouette
Is Obama really that clueless that he thinks people drive old clunkers because they are must meanyheads who want to foul up the environment? Has it really never occurred to him that people drive old cars because they can't afford to buy new cars?
Cash for Clunkers is simply another program to transfer wealth.
683 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:06:59am |
re: #608 Kosh's Shadow
I wonder what Avanti thinks of this? It could affect his Studebaker market.
We've discussed the cash for clunkers program in the Studebaker club that some states already have. A $750 national program won't have much of a effect on the old car hobby, since collector cars are worth more. Even with newer, used cars, most are worth more then $750. It might get a beater 1982 Olds turned in and crushed, and effect the 82 Olds collectors 20 years from now when he needs a parts car. Most states allow collector clubs to weed out the crazy old lady that turns in her nice 57 Chevy out of misplaced patriotism.
684 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:07:10am |
I'm going to do something rather unconventional for LGF (I think), and quote a piece of news. In Swedish.
But I will translate it, so you will be fine. I've been trying to find these figures in English, but struggling, so here goes.
Efter Irakkriget har ekonomin börjat växa. År 2007 var tillväxten i BNP 1,5 procent, år 2008 hela 10 procent. Och trots den globala lågkonjunkturen är den färska prognosen från Internationella Valutafonden (IMF) i konjunkturbarometern från april att Iraks tillväxt i real BNP blir 6,9 procent 2009 och 6,7 procent nästa år.
Rough translation:
After the Iraq war the econmy has begun to grow. In 2007 economic growth of GDP was 1.5 per cent, 2008 10 per cent. And in spite of the global recession the most recent prognosis from the international monotary fund (IMF) from April states that Iraqi growth will be 6.9 per cent in 2009 and 6.7 per cent next year.
From the Swedish blog erixon.com
685 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:07:55am |
Interesting to watch the take over of the country by Obama. I think I might stop spouting about how I would have done something different as a citizen of Germany in the late 30's.
Oh, yeah, the opinion and editorial section of my local lib rag is all over it painting everyone who is pro life as being responsible for the murder of Dr. Tiller. Got cartoons showing a gun bent back at the "Pro Life" movement.
On a related note, they didn't mention if Mohammed's killing the army recruiter had damaged Islam. Said that he had "acted alone".
686 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:08:09am |
re: #664 Alouette
Is Obama really that clueless that he thinks people drive old clunkers because they are must meanyheads who want to foul up the environment? Has it really never occurred to him that people drive old cars because they can't afford to buy new cars?
Doofus.
Other reasons are out there, too.
In the '70s, cars got crappy for a while. The unproven smog controls just sucked the power right out of them. So, from '74 up until sometimes in the '80s I wouldn't buy a new car. I ran '60s era cars, and got better mileage with more power.
When I was driving 1500+ miles per week for work, I bought used because you don't want to buy brand new when you're going to be upside down on your payments when the ride is worn out. You buy a cheap older luxury vehicle and run it into the ground.
687 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:08:50am |
I've seen nothing stating that FCBBHO is gonna' force anyone to stop driving an older car and buy a new one.
688 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:09:27am |
re: #685 kansas
Interesting to watch the take over of the country by Obama. I think I might stop spouting about how I would have done something different as a citizen of Germany in the late 30's.
Oh, yeah, the opinion and editorial section of my local lib rag is all over it painting everyone who is pro life as being responsible for the murder of Dr. Tiller. Got cartoons showing a gun bent back at the "Pro Life" movement.
On a related note, they didn't mention if Mohammed's killing the army recruiter had damaged Islam. Said that he had "acted alone".
Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?
689 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:09:30am |
re: #684 HAL2010
You are free to continue to post in Swedish, provided you also post:
1. photos of blonde Swedish models,
2. but no Abbba videos.
Deal?
690 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:09:31am |
re: #677 Kenneth
You are not a prat. I have breathlessly posted plenty of stories, only to find the others were all over it last week.
What we know is the lad is 26 years old, went to a private school in Switzerland, is shy and nervous, likes Michale Jordan and Jean Claude van Dam. And he drinks heavily. And soon he's going to be the God-King of a paranoid regime with nuclear weapons. What could go wrong?
Well, if we sent JCVD there with a gift basket as a peace offering, not telling JCVD he was the gift, perhaps he would mellow out.
Surely he would be a puppet for the military high command?
691 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:09:50am |
re: #686 razorbacker
Other reasons are out there, too.
In the '70s, cars got crappy for a while. The unproven smog controls just sucked the power right out of them. So, from '74 up until sometimes in the '80s I wouldn't buy a new car. I ran '60s era cars, and got better mileage with more power.
When I was driving 1500+ miles per week for work, I bought used because you don't want to buy brand new when you're going to be upside down on your payments when the ride is worn out. You buy a cheap older luxury vehicle and run it into the ground.
I am driving a 2001 Pontiac with a crushed right front fender. I bought it used and my husband crushed the front when he was driving home after dropping me off at work (we share one car). We never were able to get it fixed because the body work would cost $2000.
692 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:10:05am |
re: #683 avanti
We've discussed the cash for clunkers program in the Studebaker club that some states already have. A $750 national program won't have much of a effect on the old car hobby, since collector cars are worth more. Even with newer, used cars, most are worth more then $750. It might get a beater 1982 Olds turned in and crushed, and effect the 82 Olds collectors 20 years from now when he needs a parts car. Most states allow collector clubs to weed out the crazy old lady that turns in her nice 57 Chevy out of misplaced patriotism.
I traded a Geo Metro in for $500.....and it was a good deal. (Great little car until it hit 100k miles, then it practically fell apart)
693 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:10:31am |
re: #687 MandyManners
I've seen nothing stating that FCBBHO is gonna' force anyone to stop driving an older car and buy a new one.
No force at all except by force of taxation.
694 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:11:16am |
re: #687 MandyManners
You missed fuel regs...
Some older"clunkers" run like shit on todays gas.....
So if plan on a "GarageQueen" fine .
But I would DRIVE it!
695 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:11:31am |
re: #693 unrealizedviewpoint
No force at all except by force of taxation.
Do you have a link to an article about that?
696 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:12:00am |
re: #694 reloadingisnotahobby
You missed fuel regs...
Some older"clunkers" run like shit on todays gas.....
So if plan on a "GarageQueen" fine .
But I would DRIVE it!
Huh?
697 | yma o hyd Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:12:06am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Its been wall-to-wall sunshine here, since Saturday! Temperatures in the high 70s, low 80s (too hot for Madame and me!), and we're all sizzling ...
Here's a piece of news you'd be interested in:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1190288/Prince-Charles-attend-D-Day-65th-anniversary.html
From that link:
'Prince Charles will attend the 65th anniversary of D-Day celebrations this Saturday following months of prevarication by Downing Street.
The heir to the throne, who sources say has been following the Daily Mail's campaign with interest, personally telephoned the Queen yesterday to offer his services.
His office subsequently put in a call to the French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, who 'warmly' extended an invitation to him.
Sources insisted that Charles's decision to attend had nothing to do the intervention of US President Barack Obama in the row, saying: 'The genesis of this is that the Princes of Wales has been following this issue in the media and taken an enormous personal interest in it.
'As a result, he spoke to the Queen and they agreed together yesterday that it would be appropriate for him to attend.'
Suck it up, Gord!
698 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:12:21am |
re: #671 Dark_Falcon
He just thinks about his program and how good it will make the world. Facts contradicting those thought are unwelcome, he cannot be bothered with such facts.
/spits on CBBHO
Not only facts. He can't seem to be bothered by money either. How the heck is he going to budget for this? We are effing broke! Over the next 10 years we have 9 trillion of debt. We will be servicing the debt with almost all GDP. You can tell that this guy was born, bred, and cultivated in a complete leftist world. He has no clue about economics whatsoever.
699 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:12:26am |
18:06 Shark kills French tourist off Egypt`s Red Sea coast (Reuters)
Been a bad week for the French ha?
700 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:12:27am |
re: #689 Kenneth
How about videos with Swedish models, with Abba music?
701 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:13:00am |
Today General Motors, tomorrow your doctor.
Dr. B. H. Obama
702 | rightside Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:13:49am |
re: #698 Russkilitlover
And remember, "you ain't seen nothing yet!"
703 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:13:51am |
re: #701 kansas
Today General Motors, tomorrow your doctor.
Dr. B. H. Obama
Yeah, because GM did just fine until 20.01.09
704 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:14:16am |
re: #695 MandyManners
Do you have a link to an article about that?
You mean a link to a story about how Øbama plans to tax producers and transfer their wealth to the non-producers? Nope.
/
705 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:14:22am |
re: #690 HAL2010
Surely he would be a puppet for the military high command?
That's my conclusion. The generals know none of them have the Kim royal jelly. So they will agree on this punk to be the figure head. They know only a Kim on top can keep the regime alive. Who knows if it's enough?
706 | Kragar Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:14:32am |
707 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:14:36am |
re: #698 Russkilitlover
Not only facts. He can't seem to be bothered by money either. How the heck is he going to budget for this? We are effing broke! Over the next 10 years we have 9 trillion of debt. We will be servicing the debt with almost all GDP. You can tell that this guy was born, bred, and cultivated in a complete leftist world. He has no clue about economics whatsoever.
Five year plans and new deals.
709 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:14:55am |
re: #694 reloadingisnotahobby
You missed fuel regs...
Some older"clunkers" run like shit on todays gas.....
So if plan on a "GarageQueen" fine .
But I would DRIVE it!
If you go back far enough to get the high-compression engines that required leaded gas, you need to get yourself to the parts house to buy some of the lead replacement products.
That'll help.
710 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:15:10am |
re: #687 MandyManners
I've seen nothing stating that FCBBHO is gonna' force anyone to stop driving an older car and buy a new one.
That's because you are smart enough to see the truth rather then try and spin the worst possible scenario. i.e. I just got a tax credit to upgrade my home heating/AC to a more efficient unit and save energy and lower my bill. I was not "forced to go green by the tree huggers."
711 | Pianobuff Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:15:14am |
Still no sign of an official White House statement (on whitehouse.gov) related to the killing of our US soldier.
I'll keep checking back though.
712 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:15:39am |
re: #703 HAL2010
Yeah, because GM did just fine until 20.01.09
What would have been wrong with bankruptcy and restructuring then, instead of now? Without Dear Leader at the helm?
713 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:16:15am |
Pressure. Defiance. Collision. After George W. Bush's terms of endearment for Israel -- a country he once described as a "light unto nations" -- a different terminology is being used to describe its cloudy relationship with his successor, Barack Obama.
[Link: in.reuters.com...]
Good article. Worth a read for sure.
715 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:16:21am |
re: #696 MandyManners
The 60's and 70's era bigblock ford and chev motors need high octane ........
Any fuel injected motors run ok on the "oxygenated fuels but
nomally asperated classics run like doodoo....
I have a 428 ford and a 427 chev motors in the shed ......
Can't bring myself to sell 'em ...yet!
717 | lawhawk Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:16:48am |
re: #666 Killgore Trout
Then they get to do things the same way they always have, which is to say, Iran gets to let the centrifuges spin more, accumulating more enriched uranium.
But as occasional reader notes, Iran's nuclear intentions are coupled with a genocidal intent - to bring about the annihilation of Israel and to bring the US to its knees. The nuclear technologies aren't being pursued out of some altruistic nature to save the environment, but to destroy Israel out of religious and ideological demands.
718 | HAL2010 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:17:14am |
I'll be back.
Cup of tea and some food on the way.
719 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:17:23am |
re: #694 reloadingisnotahobby
You missed fuel regs...
Some older"clunkers" run like shit on todays gas.....
So if plan on a "GarageQueen" fine .
But I would DRIVE it!
They have minor issues with vapor lock, octane and rapid evaporation, but we still drive cars well over 50 years old on modern gas.
720 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:17:35am |
721 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:17:36am |
I'm out.
Y'all have whatever fun you can afford.
723 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:18:16am |
re: #711 Pianobuff
Still no sign of an official White House statement (on whitehouse.gov) related to the killing of our US soldier.
I'll keep checking back though.
The WH released a statement immediately after the abortion doctor was killed but a day after a US solder gets killed still no statement?
724 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:18:56am |
re: #714 badger1970
I'll play......
Pontiac?
Just had to say it didn't ya!?
Had a 65 ...cherry ....one I wish I still had
725 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:19:22am |
re: #723 NJDhockeyfan
The WH released a statement immediately after the abortion doctor was killed but a day after a US solder gets killed still no statement?
The murderer of the doctor was named Scott, while the murderer of the solder was named Mohammed. Does not compute.
726 | Pianobuff Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:19:27am |
re: #723 NJDhockeyfan
The WH released a statement immediately after the abortion doctor was killed but a day after a US solder gets killed still no statement?
I'm a little mystified but I'm sure something will come out fairly soon.
727 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:20:07am |
re: #715 reloadingisnotahobby
The 60's and 70's era bigblock ford and chev motors need high octane ........
Any fuel injected motors run ok on the "oxygenated fuels but
nomally asperated classics run like doodoo....
I have a 428 ford and a 427 chev motors in the shed ......
Can't bring myself to sell 'em ...yet!
Octane boosters. That's what keeps the old 330 ticking over without the 'knock' or 'diesel' problems. I run octane booster and lead replacement.
729 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:20:22am |
re: #711 Pianobuff
Still no sign of an official White House statement (on whitehouse.gov) related to the killing of our US soldier.
I'll keep checking back though.
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
730 | Pianobuff Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:21:25am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
For real? Do you think a statement should be issued?
731 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:21:36am |
re: #723 NJDhockeyfan
The WH released a statement immediately after the abortion doctor was killed but a day after a US solder gets killed still no statement?
You mean the soldier that was killed by the fucking American terrorist convert to Islam?
732 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:21:46am |
re: #727 razorbacker
I woked at an airport in the 70's.....
50/50 100 oct and premium!
733 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:21:55am |
re: #726 Pianobuff
I'm a little mystified but I'm sure something will come out fairly soon.
He's headed to Cairo, right? I guess he's busy.
734 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:22:32am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
Avanti ... you are crazy ... this guy is a terrorist ... it is not like an ex-wife came up and shot the soldiers ... I cannot believe you said that ... have you read anything on this guy that shot the soldiers ... especially you ... having served in the military ...
735 | Kragar Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:22:37am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
US Soldiers are gunned down by their homes every day? Really? I must have missed all the other incidents.
736 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:22:53am |
re: #668 capitalist piglet
Another pattern I've noticed: Place incredible burdens on the system, then criticize the system as not workable.
Hence the coming meltdown of Social Security and Medicare. The Fed has know this would happen from the first day they got the key and opened the "lock box". They just didn't want to believe it would happen and that someone would come by and fix everything before it actually broke. Well guess what? It is broken beyond repair.
737 | badger1970 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:23:04am |
re: #722 rightside
I know but goofed in I meant BTO, "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" but don't know how to embed from youtube.
obama is driving me crazy with him going half-cocked toward the destruction of our economy.
738 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:23:15am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
What are you drunk? Soldiers shot every day near their homes? They were shot by a recent convert to hum what was that religion again?
739 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:23:32am |
re: #671 Dark_Falcon
CBBHO? I think I know what the last three letters stand for. CB?
740 | Pianobuff Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:23:34am |
re: #733 capitalist piglet
He's headed to Cairo, right? I guess he's busy.
I thought the plane left yesterday.... maybe they want to vet the statement further if they decide it's worth commenting on.
741 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:23:54am |
re: #738 Nevergiveup
What are you drunk? Soldiers shot every day near their homes? They were shot by a recent convert to hum what was that religion again?
NGU ... didn't the guy go to Yemen? ... I know he was on some watch list ...
742 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:23:56am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
Well, he's been charged with 15 counts of terrorism. How's that work out?
743 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:24:03am |
re: #731 Spare O'Lake
You mean the soldier that was killed by the fucking American terrorist convert to Islam?
Yeah, that one.
744 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:24:42am |
re: #703 HAL2010
The point still remains, this is/or was a capitalist country. If GM wasn't making it, then Good Bye! Our gov shouldn't be picking who fails and who doesn't. I'm sure I'm not the only American that will never buy another GM/Chrysler product or Ford if they go this route. That is, as long as I have the right to choose what I buy. All this crap starting under GWB dosen't make me feel any better, worst really.
745 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:24:44am |
re: #731 Spare O'Lake
You mean the soldier that was killed by the fucking American terrorist convert to Islam?
He acted alone. Had nothing to do with Islam.
746 | Summersong Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:24:49am |
Aww. ABC's Today Show is telling me how hard the troops work and how hard it is on their families when they are away.
Happy to finally have them on board. Better late than never, I suppose...
747 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:24:59am |
re: #741 JacksonTn
NGU ... didn't the guy go to Yemen? ... I know he was on some watch list ...
Something like that.
748 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:25:10am |
re: #743 NJDhockeyfan
To bad we don't have an offshore prison for Terrorist scum....
////
749 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:25:38am |
re: #717 lawhawk
But as occasional reader notes, Iran's nuclear intentions are coupled with a genocidal intent - to bring about the annihilation of Israel and to bring the US to its knees. The nuclear technologies aren't being pursued out of some altruistic nature to save the environment, but to destroy Israel out of religious and ideological demands.
Agreed. Sadly this continued under Bush's tough talk and Obama's friendly overtures aren't going to stop it either. Action is the only remedy and even Israel doesn't seem to have the political will for it.
750 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:25:53am |
re: #745 kansas
He acted alone. Had nothing to do with Islam.
? Recent convert to Islam with a hard on for the US Military?
751 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:26:36am |
re: #723 NJDhockeyfan
The WH released a statement immediately after the abortion doctor was killed but a day after a US solder gets killed still no statement?
Hmmmm. They musta forgotted.
752 | VegasRick Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:27:03am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
You really are a jerkoff. Everytime I try to understand your point you show what an absolute obama apologist you really are. Dinner and a show in NYC, no problem. Posting a comment about a muslim fanatic killing a US Military recruiter, oh just not that important. You suck.
753 | CommonCents Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:27:15am |
re: #731 Spare O'Lake
You mean the soldier that was killed by the fucking American terrorist convert to Islam?
That would be the one "that isn't connected to any group or movement" and was being investigated by the FBI after traveling to Yemen and being arrested there for traveling under a Somali passport.
Completely circumstantial. Bah!
754 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:27:17am |
re: #716 taxfreekiller
Two things of note:
Jeff Bolton of 570 KLIF will now become a target of KT as a Laup Nor cult member as Jeff has agreed to MC the Dallas Tx. taxdayteaparty at south fork ranch, ,,, Ted Nugent if he agrees will also come under Internet scrubbing by KT and any Luap Nor dolls in Ted's closet with Ted's ammo ect too also will be KT'd.
The Vietnam Vet in Lake Highland near Dallas who got the letter from his HOA to remove his Marine stickers from his SUV or face having it towed and or $50.00 per day fine, has atty's for free, (tfk advised) Anderson, Burns and Vela, (the HOA Pres. like any good liberal faced the deal by "going on vacation")))
any one needing good atty's should use these guys, they are sticking up for the U.S.A. IMO.
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
front page by James RaglandFight Back it is our Country.
You don't like Kilgore much, do you?
756 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:28:56am |
Avanti ... take a look at this and then you tell me is this is just ... you know ... another day in the neighborhood where soldiers get shot down ...
A prosecutor said Muhammad admitted shooting Long and another soldier "because of what they had done to Muslims in the past."
An FBI-led joint terrorism task force based in the southern United States has been investigating Muhammad since he returned to the United States from Yemen, a law enforcement official said. The suspect had been arrested and jailed in Yemen at some point for using a Somali passport, the official said. The time of that arrest was not immediately clear.
[Link: www.google.com...]
757 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:29:08am |
c'mon, take it easy on avanti, he ain't smart.
758 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:29:12am |
re: #745 kansas
He acted alone. Had nothing to do with Islam.
How the heck do you know that?
The news report I read pointed out that he was a recent convert and suggested that his actions were religiously motivated.
759 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:29:45am |
re: #730 Pianobuff
For real? Do you think a statement should be issued?
If it turns out to have national implications a statement will be issued. Just as a the death of the guy down the street would not be mentioned, but the death of congressman would. Normally, the murder of a doctor would not get a mention, but this one was domestic terrorism.
760 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:29:52am |
re: #739 Jimmah
CBBHO? I think I know what the last three letters stand for. CB?
Commie Bastard. The phrase is Mandy's. She often adds the letter F in front of it, but I don't use that four letter word if I can avoid it.
761 | VegasRick Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:30:14am |
re: #755 taxfreekiller
avanti = cult member
I'd change the "L" to an "N" but I think Charles is awake now.
762 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:30:15am |
Barack Obama is blind to his blunders over Islam
Obama has aroused more curiosity in the Middle East than any previous US leader, partly because of his Arabic-Islamic first and middle names. The choice of the date for Obama's address indicates his attention to detail. It coincides with the anniversary of the start of the first battle between Islam, under Prophet Muhammad, and Christendom in the shape of a Byzantine expeditionary force in AD629. The “address to Islam” also marks the 30th anniversary of Ayatollah Ruhallah Khomeini's demise and the appointment of Ali Khamenei as the new “Supreme Guide of the Islamic ummah”. More importantly, it also coincides with the rebuilding of the Ka'abah, the stone at the heart of Mecca, which had been destroyed in a Muslim civil war.Rich in symbolism, Obama's “address to Islam” is also full of political implications. Obama is the first major Western leader, after Bonaparte, to address Islam as a single bloc, thus adopting the traditional Islamic narrative of dividing the world according to religious beliefs. This ignores the rich and conflict-ridden diversity of the 57 Muslim-majority nations and fosters the illusion, peddled by people such as Osama bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, that Islam is one and indivisible and should, one day, unite under a caliphate.
RTWT!
763 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:30:42am |
re: #745 kansas
He acted alone. Had nothing to do with Islam.
Ipso facto, the shooting of the abortion doctor had nothing to do with the anti-abortion movement. You can't be serious.
764 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:31:21am |
765 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:31:22am |
re: #758 Spare O'Lake
He also had weapons and was a felon....
were they purchased by him or supplied to him?
If so,buy who.....or whom?
He was afelon right?
766 | Pianobuff Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:31:44am |
re: #759 avanti
If it turns out to have national implications a statement will be issued. Just as a the death of the guy down the street would not be mentioned, but the death of congressman would. Normally, the murder of a doctor would not get a mention, but this one was domestic terrorism.
Per a previous poster, there are multiple counts of terrorism.... how is this different?
767 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:31:55am |
re: #759 avanti
If it turns out to have national implications a statement will be issued. Just as a the death of the guy down the street would not be mentioned, but the death of congressman would. Normally, the murder of a doctor would not get a mention, but this one was domestic terrorism.
What do you think the killing of the soldier was, avanti? It was Islamic terrorism. The president should condemn it and publicly state that he hopes to perpetrator is convicted and executed.
768 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:32:03am |
769 | CommonCents Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:32:07am |
Obama says Iran has a Right to Nuclear Power
Trying to appease muslims before visiting Egypt.
He's so smart because Egypt loves Iran.
/
770 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:32:28am |
re: #761 VegasRick
I'd change the "L" to an "N" but I think Charles is awake now.
That's not nice Rick.
771 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:32:38am |
re: #734 JacksonTn
Avanti ... you are crazy ... this guy is a terrorist ... it is not like an ex-wife came up and shot the soldiers ... I cannot believe you said that ... have you read anything on this guy that shot the soldiers ... especially you ... having served in the military ...
I have not kept up with the story that closely. If the shooter was a terrorist, then a statement should be issued, perhaps the WH is waiting for more information. Sorry that I missed that.
772 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:02am |
re: #769 CommonCents
Obama says Iran has a Right to Nuclear Power
Trying to appease muslims before visiting Egypt.
He's so smart because Egypt loves Iran.
/
All Arabs love each other.
/
773 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:04am |
re: #758 Spare O'Lake
How the heck do you know that?
The news report I read pointed out that he was a recent convert and suggested that his actions were religiously motivated.
Well, I know this because the White House would have released a statement by now.
774 | doppelganglander Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:15am |
re: #729 avanti
The WH will not comment on every daily shooting, nor should they. US soldiers are gunned down near there homes everyday. If it turns out to be a act of a terrorist, it's a different story.
Are you insane? If that sort of thing happened every day, the nation would be on high alert and the FBI would be swarming every suspicious person's home. Did you have Crack Flakes for breakfast?
775 | VegasRick Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:37am |
776 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:37am |
re: #766 Pianobuff
Per a previous poster, there are multiple counts of terrorism.... how is this different?
It isn't. Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism whether done by right-wing anti-abortionists, left-wing anti-war protestors, anarchists, or jihadists. It is still terrorism.
777 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:46am |
re: #771 avanti
I have not kept up with the story that closely. If the shooter was a terrorist, then a statement should be issued, perhaps the WH is waiting for more information. Sorry that I missed that.
Avanti ... dude you are not fooling me ... you come here with polls coming out your ass every dang day ... you mean to tell me you as a vet did not even look into this killing? ... push that crap somewhere else ...
778 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:52am |
re: #764 KansasMom
Tell me you're missing a sarc tag.
Missing the sarc tag. Just messing with you guys. Hi Mom.
779 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:33:58am |
re: #759 avanti
If it turns out to have national implications a statement will be issued. Just as a the death of the guy down the street would not be mentioned, but the death of congressman would. Normally, the murder of a doctor would not get a mention, but this one was domestic terrorism.
Dude seriously, the guy who killed the soldier was charged with 15 or 16 counts of TERRORISM. Why is that not an act of terrorism to you? Obama should have been on the TV from minute one denouncing this guy exactly like he did the abortion killing, and he ain't. Sorry that tells me what his priorities are.
780 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:06am |
re: #772 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
All Arabs love each other.
/
I take by the sarc tag that you know Iranians are Persian, not Arab, and they don't get along with the Arabs (who still don't get along with each other)
781 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:15am |
re: #773 kansas
Well, I know this because the White House would have released a statement by now.
Dude, did you sell your sarcasm tag on Ebay recently?
782 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:17am |
re: #745 kansas
He acted alone. Had nothing to do with Islam.
You forgot the sarc tag, didn't you?
Abdulhakim Muhammad had recently returned from Yemen carrying a fake Somali passport. Those facts indicate he was indeed motivated by his religion and he was not acting alone. He went to Yemen for something, right? And somebody gave him the fake passport.
783 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:21am |
re: #773 kansas
Well, I know this because the White House would have released a statement by now.
Now I know you were missing a sarc tag!
785 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:43am |
re: #756 JacksonTn
Avanti ... take a look at this and then you tell me is this is just ... you know ... another day in the neighborhood where soldiers get shot down ...
A prosecutor said Muhammad admitted shooting Long and another soldier "because of what they had done to Muslims in the past."
An FBI-led joint terrorism task force based in the southern United States has been investigating Muhammad since he returned to the United States from Yemen, a law enforcement official said. The suspect had been arrested and jailed in Yemen at some point for using a Somali passport, the official said. The time of that arrest was not immediately clear.
I had not seen that, thanks. I expect you'll hear something then.
786 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:48am |
re: #771 avanti
I have not kept up with the story that closely. If the shooter was a terrorist, then a statement should be issued, perhaps the WH is waiting for more information. Sorry that I missed that.
Why don't you think before you shoot off your ignorant mouth?
787 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:34:51am |
re: #780 Kosh's Shadow
I take by the sarc tag that you know Iranians are Persian, not Arab, and they don't get along with the Arabs (who still don't get along with each other)
Correctamundo!
789 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:35:22am |
re: #773 kansas
Well, I know this because the White House would have released a statement by now.
Now I know you're pulling our legs!
790 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:35:33am |
re: #771 avanti
I have not kept up with the story that closely. If the shooter was a terrorist, then a statement should be issued, perhaps the WH is waiting for more information. Sorry that I missed that.
Unless you live in a cave I'm going to assume you are lying.
791 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:35:52am |
re: #762 Kenneth
Barack Obama is blind to his blunders over Islam
RTWT!
Dang, now I know where that 57 states comment came from:
"This ignores the rich and conflict-ridden diversity of the 57 Muslim-majority nations and fosters the illusion, peddled by people such as Osama bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, that Islam is one and indivisible and should, one day, unite under a caliphate."
792 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:35:57am |
re: #729 avanti
You are really a piece of work. Soldiers dying everyday is no big deal even if killed by a radical! Thanks for being honest.
Will scan over you from now on. Nothing new from your side of the aisle though. Moving on!
793 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:35:58am |
re: #781 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Dude, did you sell your sarcasm tag on Ebay recently?
If I used a sarc tag, no one would respond, and I am lonely today.
794 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:36:06am |
re: #767 Dark_Falcon
What do you think the killing of the soldier was, avanti? It was Islamic terrorism. The president should condemn it and publicly state that he hopes to perpetrator is convicted and executed.
If it was Islamic terrorism, I'm with you 100%. we'd need a statement.
795 | CommonCents Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:36:14am |
re: #782 Kenneth
You forgot the sarc tag, didn't you?
Abdulhakim Muhammad had recently returned from Yemen carrying a fake Somali passport. Those facts indicate he was indeed motivated by his religion and he was not acting alone. He went to Yemen for something, right? And somebody gave him the fake passport.
I'm no international diplomatic genius, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Somali passport was just a stick figure on the back of an empty Dorito's bag..
/
796 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:36:14am |
re: #778 kansas
Missing the sarc tag. Just messing with you guys. Hi Mom.
Good morning! Hope weather in your corner of ks is looking better than here....expecting bad storms to cancel the kiddo's baseball practice tonight.
798 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:36:39am |
re: #785 avanti
I had not seen that, thanks. I expect you'll hear something then.
Like how Islam is the Religion of Peace? Yeah, we all heard that one before.
799 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:37:21am |
re: #773 kansas
Well, I know this because the White House would have released a statement by now.
Well OK then.
(nice ex post sarco)
800 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:38:12am |
re: #791 johnnyreb
Somebody here noted there were 57 states in the Islamic League of nations, right after Obama made that gaffe. As they say in poker, that's the "tell".
801 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:38:18am |
Have a good day comrades of the Obama Nation. Now I must go do capitalism while it is still legal.
804 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:38:56am |
re: #766 Pianobuff
Per a previous poster, there are multiple counts of terrorism.... how is this different?
Again, you guys know more then me. I had not read about the multiple counts of terrorism charges yet, bigger story then I'd known.
805 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:39:14am |
re: #801 kansas
Have a good day comrades of the Obama Nation. Now I must go do capitalism while it is still legal.
We need to have a little chat about your attitude.
/
806 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:39:24am |
Good Morning Lizards..Hope you are all well today
807 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:39:45am |
re: #795 CommonCents
I thought it was an AK-47 and a burlap sack of khat.
808 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:40:09am |
Get ready to seethe. Another RINO becomes a traitor to the Tea Party.....
Obama to Name N.Y. Congressman the Army Secretary
Representative John M. McHugh, a Republican congressman from New York, will be nominated by President Obama to be secretary of the Army, according to officials, as the administration continues to reach into the ranks of the opposition for executive appointments.
How dare this treacherous cretin decide to serve his country. Why won't he resist Obama's fascist Marxist agenda!
/
809 | Desert Dog Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:40:20am |
re: #801 kansas
Have a good day comrades of the Obama Nation. Now I must go do capitalism while it is still legal.
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
810 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:40:20am |
re: #800 Kenneth
Somebody here noted there were 57 states in the Islamic League of nations, right after Obama made that gaffe. As they say in poker, that's the "tell".
If Joe Biden had made that gaffe, we could safely assume he was just thinking about ketchup.
812 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:40:43am |
re: #800 Kenneth
Somebody here noted there were 57 states in the Islamic League of nations, right after Obama made that gaffe. As they say in poker, that's the "tell".
That has to be the silliest spin I've ever heard from the right, you can't be serious .
813 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:40:53am |
re: #762 Kenneth
Barack Obama is blind to his blunders over Islam
RTWT!
That's interesting. I never thought about his references to "Islam" as a whole, as opposed to individual countries.
814 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:40:54am |
re: #810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
If Joe Biden had made that gaffe, we could safely assume he was just thinking about ketchup.
And pickles. Loves those pickles.
815 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:41:00am |
816 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:41:35am |
817 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:41:42am |
re: #807 Kenneth
I thought it was an AK-47 and a burlap sack of khat.
That's the Great Seal of Somalia.
818 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:42:17am |
re: #810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
If Joe Biden had made that gaffe, we could safely assume he was just thinking about ketchup.
I love that scene in The Manchurian Candidate where Iselen comes up with the number of communists in the military and government from the ketchup bottle.
819 | vxbush Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:42:17am |
re: #808 Killgore Trout
Get ready to seethe. Another RINO becomes a traitor to the Tea Party.....
Obama to Name N.Y. Congressman the Army SecretaryHow dare this treacherous cretin decide to serve his country. Why won't he resist Obama's fascist Marxist agenda!
/
He doesn't seem that bad of a candidate, although I'm not sure how serving on "the Board of Visitors for the United States Military Academy at West Point" provides much in the way of army management experience.
820 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:42:17am |
re: #808 Killgore Trout
Incredibly stupid statement from you.
821 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:42:26am |
re: #807 Kenneth
Drowning cats in a burlap sack is wrong.
824 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:42:57am |
re: #821 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Drowning cats in a burlap sack is wrong.
That's why you need the AK.
825 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:43:02am |
re: #752 VegasRick
You really are a jerkoff. Everytime I try to understand your point you show what an absolute obama apologist you really are. Dinner and a show in NYC, no problem. Posting a comment about a muslim fanatic killing a US Military recruiter, oh just not that important. You suck.
new word: Obamapologist. 1. a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of the One. 2. a person skilled in Obama apologetics. 3. Avanti.
Origin:VegasRick
826 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:43:03am |
re: #759 avanti
If it turns out to have national implications a statement will be issued. Just as a the death of the guy down the street would not be mentioned, but the death of congressman would. Normally, the murder of a doctor would not get a mention, but this one was domestic terrorism.
And this was an ordinary American but in UNIFORM!
827 | debutaunt Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:43:46am |
8 out of 10 candidates for the Presidency of the US are typically unaware of the exact number of states involved.
828 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:43:53am |
re: #812 avanti
That has to be the silliest spin I've ever heard from the right, you can't be serious .
829 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:43:59am |
re: #821 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Drowning cats in a burlap sack is wrong.
Khat is a plant whose leaves are chewed in Somalia as a stimulant.
830 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:44:04am |
Abortion doctor killer a soldier in terrorist 'Army of God'?
The details emerging about Scott Roeder, the man charged in Sunday's fatal shooting of Dr. George Tiller inside Tiller's church in Wichita, Kan., suggest ties to a loosely organized domestic terror network known as the Army of God, which has long engaged in harassment of and violence against abortion providers like Tiller as well as lesbians and gays.
831 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:44:11am |
Obama scraps the Bush Doctrine of Promoting Democracy in the Middle East:
Mr Obama has started scrapping that policy in the name of “political realism”, the currently fashionable phrase in Washington. The “political realist” school could also be called the “let them stew in their juices” school. It argues that Arabs, and other Muslims, are not ready for democracy and may not even like it if they encountered it. Rather than trying to shock “traditional societies” out of their sleep of centuries, Western powers, especially America, should try to maintain stability.
The problem is that the status quo in the Middle East was and remains unstable. Sixty years of “political realist” support for the regimes in the region produced five Arab-Israel wars, civil wars in Lebanon and Yemen, military coups d'état in eight Arab countries, the Islamic revolution in Iran, and two wars between US-led international coalitions and Iraq under Saddam Hussein.
833 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:44:17am |
re: #819 vxbush
He doesn't seem that bad of a candidate, although I'm not sure how serving on "the Board of Visitors for the United States Military Academy at West Point" provides much in the way of army management experience.
He's been around the block, at least. From Wiki, usual warnings:
He is a senior member of the House Armed Services Committee and the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The Armed Services Committee directs the Pentagon and America's defense policies. McHugh serves as the Ranking Republican on the Committee's Subcommittee on Military Personnel, responsible for more than $70 billion in federal defense spending related to personnel issues and $15 billion in health benefits.
The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform reviews, on a continuing basis, government activities at all levels with a view to determining their economy and efficiency. For six years, McHugh served as Chairman of the Subcommittee on the Postal Service, and last year worked to pass legislation to significantly reform the U.S. Postal Service for the first time in 35 years.
McHugh is also a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which is responsible for overseeing activities of the U.S. Intelligence Community. Many aspects of the committee’s work are classified for reasons of national security.
834 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:44:48am |
re: #816 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I couldn't hit crap from 3 today. Probably 15%. Shot for an hour.
Grrrrrr.
Good Morning..Veggie..do free throws and practice 15-18 footers..That's where you can be most effective in pickup games.
And since you are a big man..work on those moves in the lane..You take up space..And that's a good thing..
I'm proud of you Veggie!
835 | VegasRick Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:06am |
re: #808 Killgore Trout
Get ready to seethe. Another RINO becomes a traitor to the Tea Party.....
Obama to Name N.Y. Congressman the Army Secretary
How dare this treacherous cretin decide to serve his country. Why won't he resist Obama's fascist Marxist agenda!
/
Drink!
836 | wrenchwench Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:10am |
re: #826 Nevergiveup
And this was an ordinary American but in UNIFORM!
And killed because he served in uniform, if the reports are accurate.
837 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:29am |
re: #826 Nevergiveup
And this was an ordinary American but in UNIFORM!
No American is ordinary when they are in our country's uniform.
838 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:36am |
re: #759 avanti
If it turns out to have national implications a statement will be issued. Just as a the death of the guy down the street would not be mentioned, but the death of congressman would. Normally, the murder of a doctor would not get a mention, but this one was domestic terrorism.
{sigh}
A hundred times a week in the USA a "guy down the street" gets shot
How many time a week does a soldier IN uniform get shot IN the USA?
This DOES have "national imlications"
839 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:41am |
840 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:42am |
re: #808 Killgore Trout
Get ready to seethe. Another RINO becomes a traitor to the Tea Party.....
Obama to Name N.Y. Congressman the Army Secretary
How dare this treacherous cretin decide to serve his country. Why won't he resist Obama's fascist Marxist agenda!
/
Doesn't it just make Dem blood boil when President Obama keeps constantly hiring Republicans and following Republican policies?
841 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:47am |
re: #812 avanti
That has to be the silliest spin I've ever heard from the right, you can't be serious .
Sekrit muslim!/
842 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:53am |
re: #808 Killgore Trout
No seething, better to have a republican in that roll, no matter who puts him there. Shows he has at least some common sense even if he is a NY (R).
843 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:45:59am |
re: #804 avanti
Again, you guys know more then me. I had not read about the multiple counts of terrorism charges yet, bigger story then I'd known.
If he had blown himself up, would you have paid closer attention?
844 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:46:02am |
845 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:46:29am |
re: #834 HoosierHoops
Oh, yeah. But, when I shoot from three? There's a whole lot of chasing the ball. Chasing the ball = running. I need to run...getting the legs moving.
846 | VegasRick Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:46:47am |
848 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:47:03am |
re: #840 Spare O'Lake
Doesn't it just make Dem blood boil when President Obama keeps constantly hiring Republicans and following Republican policies?
Thats because he can't find anymore Dems who actually paid their taxes or didn't hire illegal maids, etc.
849 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:47:24am |
re: #844 Killgore Trout
Too early.
Coffee.
/sip
Killgore ... everyone has a right to vote or not ... but I am asking you ... you said you did not vote in the election ... so what has changed now about Obama that you seem to like him now ... why didn't you vote for him in the election? ...
850 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:47:59am |
re: #843 capitalist piglet
If he had blown himself up driving a Studebaker, would you have paid closer attention?
ftfAvanti
851 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:48:47am |
854 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:49:01am |
re: #830 Killgore Trout
Abortion doctor killer a soldier in terrorist 'Army of God'?
Nice. A report form a left wing think tank devoted to secularizing and liberalizing the South. Real credible.
855 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:49:27am |
re: #812 avanti
Actually, I think it was just a curious coincidence. On the other hand, Freud once said there is no such thing as a coincidence...
But go read Taheri's comment on Obama's coming speech in Cairo, and Manji's too while you are at it. (see my 2 links above).
856 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:50:13am |
re: #845 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, yeah. But, when I shoot from three? There's a whole lot of chasing the ball. Chasing the ball = running. I need to run...getting the legs moving.
Pick up games Veggie! You'll run till you drop.. Plus the joy of stepping in front of a player driving to the hoop and dropping them on their ass...
No better feeling Veggie...
857 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:50:18am |
re: #851 Jimmah
Because he is not a communist. It's as stupid as calling Bush a Nazi.
I always thought the "C" was for "Chicago".
Chicago Bastard Barack Hussein Obama. ;-)
859 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:50:32am |
re: #851 Jimmah
Because he is not a communist. It's as stupid as calling Bush a Nazi.
You have a point, Jimmah. I will consider that.
860 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:50:37am |
861 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:50:53am |
re: #742 kansas
Well, he's been charged with 15 counts of terrorism. How's that work out?
Look, I owe all the Lizards a apology. I had not checked the news this AM and was not aware that he had 15 terrorists charges against him. With that information, the WH was comment. Could I get a link to the new charges ?
862 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:51:04am |
re: #849 JacksonTn
why didn't you vote for him in the election? ...
His lack of experience was a big concern. A lot of his previous statements and policies (such as immediate surrender in Iraq) were too much for me to take. I have issues with him on a lot of things but it seems he's leading as a pragmatist. If he ran his campaign like that I might have voted for him.
863 | MrSilverDragon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:51:06am |
re: #857 Honorary Yooper
I always thought the "C" was for "Chicago".
Chicago Bastard Barack Hussein Obama. ;-)
Six in one hand, 1/2 dozen in the other...
864 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:51:46am |
Why don't you go up-ding No. 729, Jimmah?
865 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:51:55am |
866 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:51:57am |
re: #862 Killgore Trout
His lack of experience was a big concern. A lot of his previous statements and policies (such as immediate surrender in Iraq) were too much for me to take. I have issues with him on a lot of things but it seems he's leading as a pragmatist. If he ran his campaign like that I might have voted for him.
Killgore ... upding for at least answering ... thanks ...
867 | Ben Hur Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:52:11am |
The One will not make a statement criticizing a Muslim terrorist two days before going to Arabia.
If he does, it will be the No True Scotsman defense.
868 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:52:31am |
Just checking in so I am not sure if someone posted this: Obama to name Republican Representative John M. McHugh as Sec. of the Army.
869 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:52:35am |
re: #831 Kenneth
Obama scraps the Bush Doctrine of Promoting Democracy in the Middle East:
I'm bracing myself for Obama's Cairo "big speech to the Muslim world". Expect ample "America has always sucked, but now I'm here, so it's better", with a rich frosty topping of "Israel is the obstacle in the path to peace".
870 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:52:57am |
re: #865 Kenneth
FIRST!
ruh roh !Posts that contain phone numbers, street addresses, email addresses or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"
j/k
871 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:02am |
re: #856 HoosierHoops
Oh...sorry... it is just me in the gym all alone. I'm not playing with other people yet. Trying to get ready for the other people part.
I am a basketball hermit. And I like it that way.
872 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:31am |
re: #830 Killgore Trout
Abortion doctor killer a soldier in terrorist 'Army of God'?
I hadn't seen that. But the woman who shot Tiller in the 90's was acting on behalf of that organization.
Your text to link...
873 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:31am |
re: #745 kansas
He acted alone. Had nothing to do with Islam.
He just digs those NBA players with islamic-sounding names.
/
874 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:38am |
re: #854 Dark_Falcon
Their evidence seems a little thin. Just tossing it out for informational purposes.
875 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:43am |
876 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:43am |
I'm outta' here before I post something I'll regret.
877 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:46am |
re: #869 Occasional Reader
I'm bracing myself for Obama's Cairo "big speech to the Muslim world". Expect ample "America has always sucked, but now I'm here, so it's better", with a rich frosty topping of "Israel is the obstacle in the path to peace".
Wouldn't that be a "frothy"topping? When it comes to Israel, her enemies typically froth.
878 | VegasRick Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:53:57am |
879 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:54:02am |
re: #862 Killgore Trout
His lack of experience was a big concern. A lot of his previous statements and policies (such as immediate surrender in Iraq) were too much for me to take. I have issues with him on a lot of things but it seems he's leading as a pragmatist. If he ran his campaign like that I might have voted for him.
Hell ,, I might have too!
880 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:54:05am |
Anyone else see Bill Ayer's ugly mug and "Your Questions For Bill Ayers" advertised coming up on C-SPAN's Book TV sunday noon to 3, right next to Charles' thread on DARTH VADER/Dick Cheney & Gay Marriage ?
It's giving me great cognitive dissonance. Cheney v. Ayers, after that last prize match, Cheney v. Obama.
881 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:54:42am |
re: #831 Kenneth
Obama scraps the Bush Doctrine of Promoting Democracy in the Middle East:
It's hard to promote something you don't believe in yourself.
882 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:54:53am |
re: #872 KansasMom
It's a possibility. They're looking into his connections and hopefully some of these groups are going to be shut down.
883 | KansasMom Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:55:02am |
Bye for a bit. Gotta go pick up the dog's hormone replacement pills. (No, I'm not kidding)
884 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:55:10am |
885 | JacksonTn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:55:33am |
To Avanti ... you maybe spend too much time with Nate Silver to pay attention to things you don't want to see ... if the guy had been killing vets maybe you would have paid closer attention ... this is so bad in so many ways ... I have come to expect these islamic terrorist from the outside ... but if this is a trend coming from here ... it could get really bad really fast ...
gotta work ... have a great day Lizards ...
886 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:55:48am |
re: #865 Kenneth
And a little too late for me. Why comment on a subject if you aren't up on the latest news! The Islamic connection really was yesterday news.
887 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:55:50am |
re: #870 sattv4u2
ruh roh !Posts that contain phone numbers, street addresses, email addresses or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"
j/k
GMTA
888 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:00am |
889 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:00am |
re: #881 Russkilitlover
It's hard to promote something you don't believe in yourself.
Instead, he'll promote despotism in the US.
/only half sarc
890 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:16am |
re: #862 Killgore Trout
His lack of experience was a big concern. A lot of his previous statements and policies (such as immediate surrender in Iraq) were too much for me to take. I have issues with him on a lot of things but it seems he's leading as a pragmatist. If he ran his campaign like that I might have voted for him.
Nope. I still wouldn't have. Being from Illinois, and having to vote or not vote for Obama's comrades, I still would not have voted for Obama. As far as I am concerned, he is still too close to the Machine members who I really have a strong dislike for. A quick look at those he has brought on board justifies my response as well. David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel are well entrenched in the Chicago culture of corruption. Ray LaHood is part of the Illinois Combine and knows how to bring home the pork for Bill Cellini. And Archie Duncan was Daley's school chief for chrissakes. Obama never stood against the Machine when he could have, and supported Machine candidates like Todd Stroger when he could. Obama will always have the taint of the Chicago culture of corruption, and I don't vote for Chicago Machine candidates.
892 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:39am |
"U.S. soldiers are gunned down near [their] homes every day"... man, the things I learn here. Thanks, avanti!
/
893 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:40am |
re: #869 Occasional Reader
I can't wait to hear how he works himself into the speech. That's the real important part anyway, isn't it?
Let's place some bets, shall we?
1. Obama will use a sentence with the words "my remarkable journey" somewhere in the speech.
2. Obama will make reference to his "Muslim experience" while deftly avoiding mentioning he used to live as a Muslim.
894 | johnnyreb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:46am |
re: #867 Ben Hur
The One will not make a statement criticizing a Muslim terrorist two days before going to Arabia.
If he does, it will be the No True Scotsman defense.
He is establishing a truly ugly precedent. He went on national TV and condemned the abortion killer, but he hasn't said a word about a soldier in uniform being assassinated. Tells me a whole lot about the man and his administration.
895 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:56:46am |
re: #889 Ward Cleaver
Instead, he'll promote despotism in the US.
/only half sarc
The Home Despot -The "S" is for "Savings"!
897 | Ben Hur Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:57:21am |
re: #851 Jimmah
Because he is not a communist. It's as stupid as calling Bush a Nazi.
I believe he is a Marxist.
898 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:57:25am |
re: #867 Ben Hur
The One will not make a statement criticizing a Muslim terrorist two days before going to Arabia.
If he does, it will be the No True Scotsman defense.
I was trying to allude to that earlier. The timing is bad for Obama, so mum's the word.
899 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:57:28am |
re: #876 MandyManners
I'm outta' here before I post something I'll regret.
What? That you think the Hoopster is the most handsome, Athletic Lizard at LGF? Yup You'd regret it forever....LOL
/Have a wonderful day MM
900 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:57:40am |
re: #877 Creeping Eruption
Wouldn't that be a "frothy"topping? When it comes to Israel, her enemies typically froth.
It's all about duh settlemintz!
901 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:57:58am |
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
902 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:13am |
re: #880 alegrias
Anyone else see Bill Ayer's ugly mug and "Your Questions For Bill Ayers" advertised coming up on C-SPAN's Book TV sunday noon to 3, right next to Charles' thread on DARTH VADER/Dick Cheney & Gay Marriage ?
It's giving me great cognitive dissonance. Cheney v. Ayers, after that last prize match, Cheney v. Obama.
Either way its no contest. Dick Cheney has more acumen and brainpower that both of those leftists put together. But thanks to the majority of voters, those two have the power. [Dark_Falcon beats his head against the wall]
903 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:17am |
re: #870 sattv4u2
I know, but Stinky will never expect to find a "First!" post at comment #865.
Mwahahah!
904 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:17am |
re: #893 Kenneth
I can't wait to hear how he works himself into the speech. That's the real important part anyway, isn't it?
Let's place some bets, shall we?
I won't cover those bets... I'm no sucker.
905 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:18am |
906 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:36am |
re: #895 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The Home Despot -The "S" is for "Savings"!
"You can do it, comrade, and we can help"TM
907 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:45am |
908 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:45am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
F**K YOU, YOU F**KING F***ER!
//
909 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:58:52am |
re: #881 Russkilitlover
It's hard to promote something you don't believe in yourself.
* * * *
Liz Cheney last night talked about the importance of promoting democracy and women's rights in the Middle East.
Obama prefers the status quo ANTE Bush/Cheney in the Middle East. This should upset homosexuals around the world, knowing how they fare in the Middle East.
The Cheneys believe freedom is for everyone. Obama doesn't agree.
910 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:59:21am |
re: #854 Dark_Falcon
Nice. A report form a left wing think tank devoted to secularizing and liberalizing the South. Real credible.
Oh noes. You think they might not be unbiased observers?
/
911 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:59:23am |
re: #899 HoosierHoops
What? That you think the Hoopster is the most handsome, Athletic Lizard at LGF? Yup You'd regret it forever....LOL
/Have a wonderful day MM
Well now that OR is here..That blows my whole post...
*wink*
912 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:59:25am |
914 | wrenchwench Tue, Jun 2, 2009 8:59:44am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
I am so tempted to downding that post...just for fun.
915 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:00am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
Screw you if you don't think it's civil!
/
/who loves ya baby
916 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:19am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
Not really, you fucking idiot!
917 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:28am |
re: #906 Ward Cleaver
"
You can do it,Yes We Can, comrade, and we can help"TM
On that, I'm off to lunch.
918 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:42am |
re: #869 Occasional Reader
I'm bracing myself for Obama's Cairo "big speech to the Muslim world". Expect ample "America has always sucked, but now I'm here, so it's better", with a rich frosty topping of "Israel is the obstacle in the path to peace".
As fast as this moving you might want to put yourself in a set of these for the remainder of the ride.
919 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:46am |
OT,
LIVE Pres. Obama announcing his investment in the military (pay & Veterans care) plus introduces Republican Rep. John McHugh as the New Army Sec.
920 | MrSilverDragon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:57am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
Civility is an illusion... blog civility, doubly so.
(sorry, Douglas Adams)
921 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:00:58am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
Obviously you missed the AI and Rayra days of LGF. This is civil discourse when compared to that.
922 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:01:18am |
re: #895 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The Home Despot -The "S" is for "Savings"!
I prefer "Home Desperate"
923 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:01:32am |
924 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:01:41am |
Oh....Time for the Presidential STFU botton:
Needed at least once every day!
925 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:01:51am |
re: #886 1SG(ret)
And a little too late for me. Why comment on a subject if you aren't up on the latest news! The Islamic connection really was yesterday news.
Again, I'm sorry. I still can't find the link to him being charged with 15 counts of terrorism already, but I'll keep looking. It is true, I should have known he'd been charged, but it has not hit the MSM news yet, and I missed it.
926 | UFO TOFU Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:02:14am |
re: #921 Honorary Yooper
BIG CIVIL DISCOURSE IS RIPPING US OFF!
927 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:02:19am |
re: #908 Occasional Reader
Saw that on a t-shirt yesterday...at a new restaurant in Roanoke, called "Fork in the City".
picture of a fork
letter u
letter u
picture of a fork
letter n
picture of a fork
letter r.
Thought it was funny.
928 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:02:24am |
re: #923 Occasional Reader
Man, you Philly boys are polite.
Just ask Santa Claus.
/really off to lunch now.
929 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:02:46am |
re: #925 avanti
Again, I'm sorry. I still can't find the link to him being charged with 15 counts of terrorism already, but I'll keep looking. It is true, I should have known he'd been charged, but it has not hit the MSM news yet, and I missed it.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
930 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:03:33am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
* * * * *
Survival of the least civil, baby!
It's evolution.//
932 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:03:37am |
re: #911 HoosierHoops
Well now that OR is here..That blows my whole post...
*wink*
Hey, I thought of you yesterday, HH... I was taking a self defense class, and the instructor quoted none other than your mancrush, Denzel! (Something from Training Day about "do you want to go home, or be dead?")
933 | Ben Hur Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:03:38am |
re: #893 Kenneth
I can't wait to hear how he works himself into the speech. That's the real important part anyway, isn't it?
Let's place some bets, shall we?
What are the odds on The One using the "When I was only (insert age here)" defense?
934 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:04:41am |
re: #898 capitalist piglet
I was trying to allude to that earlier. The timing is bad for Obama, so mum's the word.
Not tricky at all. He could have even tied the two together and made a statement about America not standing for religious intolerence of any kind. He didn't. Says it all.
935 | debutaunt Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:04:56am |
re: #925 avanti
Again, I'm sorry. I still can't find the link to him being charged with 15 counts of terrorism already, but I'll keep looking. It is true, I should have known he'd been charged, but it has not hit the MSM news yet, and I missed it.
CNN
937 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:14am |
re: #921 Honorary Yooper
Obviously you missed the AI and Rayra days of LGF. This is civil discourse when compared to that.
Yeah, it is. Assuming the posts are still there, they can go back and read some of AI's rants, and peeps like Ed calling her the "genocidal shrieker". Good grief.
938 | CommonCents Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:14am |
re: #908 Occasional Reader
F**K YOU, YOU F**KING F***ER!
//
Damn! Feel it brother. It's like a hockey game is about to break out.
939 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:16am |
re: #929 OldLineTexan
from the link:
Story Highlights
Investigators suspect "political and religious motives"
Man, 24, charged with murder, 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act
Police: Man in black SUV drove by and fired on soldiers standing outside
Three weapons found in man's SUV, police say
940 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:23am |
re: #929 OldLineTexan
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Thanks, that's what I needed. I see why I was fairly downdinged, I fucked up big time by not being up to speed.
941 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:24am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
No, it's a christing echo chamber these days, shithead!/
942 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:28am |
re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody notice that it used to be more civil here?
No way. A few years ago it was much more viscous and the language was much harsher. There also used to be cliques and they'd try to gang up on people and chase them off the blog.
943 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:34am |
944 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:40am |
re: #905 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
His bungling is Marxist Brothers worthy.
I'd take T. Rufus Firefly over Obama.
945 | 1SG(ret) Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:05:40am |
re: #925 avanti
but it has not hit the MSM news yet, and I missed it.
And you thought it would have?
946 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:11am |
re: #942 Killgore Trout
No way. A few years ago it was much more viscous and the language was much harsher. There also used to be cliques and they'd try to gang up on people and chase them off the blog.
LGF was thick, sticky liquid?
/
947 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:18am |
re: #933 Ben Hur
"Hey, I wasn't even born when Egypt attacked Israel. Twice. And then I was only 6 years old and later I was only 12..."
948 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:20am |
949 | zombie Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:21am |
Woo-hoo! I just taught myself how to override css stylesheets in blog templates by using the "span" class! It even works with supposedly unchangeable free hosted blog themes.
Such new skill acquisition is way above my normal level of comprehension.
This is going to come in soooooooo handy in all sorts of ways.
You can always teach an old zombie new tricks!
950 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:37am |
re: #918 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
As fast as this moving you might want to put yourself in a set of these for the remainder of the ride.
Can that be installed in a handbasket?
951 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:38am |
re: #926 UFO TOFU
BIG CIVIL DISCOURSE IS RIPPING US OFF!
Thinking of that, where is Peacekeeper anyway?
952 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:06:42am |
953 | nyc redneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:07:05am |
re: #859 Dark_Falcon
You have a point, Jimmah. I will consider that.
no he doesn't.
o has behaved much more like a commie thug than pres. bush ever behaved like a nazi.
look at o's background, his associations, what he has said himself, ie "spread the wealth around".
o has, in a few months, nationalized banks and now owns GM. this is how commies work. o said, GM would be run by an appointed bd. of directors (of his choosing). he fired the original CEO (summarily, unbelievable). he said the gov't (him) will refrain from making decisions, except: "the most fundamental decisions", LOL who defines fundamental? what's next for o to take over?
the failing msm personal propaganda machine. subsidize that?
o has not created on real job. he is just expanding gov't.
wait until he prints the 1.5 trillion to nationalize health care.
what abt. o is free market? namely the system that made america great.
even europe is warning him abt. his socialist commie ways.
LOL when putin tells him to back off we know we have a problem w/ his agenda.
954 | reine.de.tout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:07:41am |
re: #942 Killgore Trout
No way. A few years ago it was much more viscous and the language was much harsher. There also used to be cliques and they'd try to gang up on people and chase them off the blog.
vis⋅cous /ˈvɪskəs/ Show Spelled Pronunciation
–adjective
1. of a glutinous nature or consistency; sticky; thick; adhesive.
2. having the property of viscosity.
vi⋅cious [vish-uhs] Show IPA
–adjective
1. addicted to or characterized by vice; grossly immoral; depraved; profligate: a vicious life.
2. given or readily disposed to evil: a vicious criminal.
3. reprehensible; blameworthy; wrong: a vicious deception.
4. spiteful; malicious: vicious gossip; a vicious attack.
5. unpleasantly severe: a vicious headache.
6. characterized or marred by faults or defects; faulty; unsound: vicious reasoning.
7. savage; ferocious: They all feared his vicious temper.
8. (of an animal) having bad habits or a cruel or fierce disposition: a vicious bull.
9. Archaic. morbid, foul, or noxious
955 | debutaunt Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:07:50am |
re: #939 OldLineTexan
from the link:
Story Highlights
Investigators suspect "political and religious motives"Man, 24, charged with murder, 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act
Police: Man in black SUV drove by and fired on soldiers standing outside
Three weapons found in man's SUV, police say
A gasoline wasting murderer.
956 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:07:50am |
re: #945 1SG(ret)
And you thought it would have?
Not arguing with that, just trying to explain why I missed it. Maybe it was too late for last nights news and will be on this evening.
957 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:07:54am |
re: #933 Ben Hur
What are the odds on The One using the "When I was only (insert age here)" defense?
How old was he when Da Juice launched that totally unprovoked, suprise attack on the sovereign state of Arab Palestine, stole all their land, blew up their orchards, and otherwise took their bukkits?
958 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:00am |
re: #946 OldLineTexan
Damn, I screw up that one all the time. Damn spell checker.
959 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:01am |
960 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:25am |
962 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:31am |
re: #949 zombie
Woo-hoo! I just taught myself how to override css stylesheets in blog templates by using the "span" class! It even works with supposedly unchangeable free hosted blog themes.
Such new skill acquisition is way above my normal level of comprehension.
This is going to come in soooooooo handy in all sorts of ways.
You can always teach an old zombie new tricks!
Good for you! I have no fricken idea what you're talking about but it sounds like a good thing.
963 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:37am |
964 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:38am |
re: #957 Occasional Reader
How old was he when Da Juice launched that totally unprovoked, suprise attack on the sovereign state of Arab Palestine, stole all their land, blew up their orchards, and otherwise took their bukkits?
He'll hold up a key that little jahib gave him
965 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:51am |
re: #951 Honorary Yooper
Thinking of that, where is Peacekeeper anyway?
We put a blue helmet on him ... it went downhill from there. Sad, in retrospect.
/
966 | UFO TOFU Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:08:58am |
re: #951 Honorary Yooper
Thinking of that, where is Peacekeeper anyway?
I was just thinking that yesterday. I miss the morning OR, PK & DD show.
967 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:09:01am |
re: #944 Kosh's Shadow
I'd take T. Rufus Firefly over Obama.
At the very least, President Firefly solidly recognizes the 2nd Amendment.
I got guns, you got guns
All God's chillus got guns
968 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:09:15am |
969 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:09:31am |
re: #909 alegrias
* * * *
Liz Cheney last night talked about the importance of promoting democracy and women's rights in the Middle East.Obama prefers the status quo ANTE Bush/Cheney in the Middle East. This should upset homosexuals around the world, knowing how they fare in the Middle East.
The Cheneys believe freedom is for everyone. Obama doesn't agree.
To the left, promoting democracy in the ME is a Bush doctrine. They are so vehemently opposed to Bush (the man) that they can't ever support Bush (policy). Even though the lack of democracy in the ME has huge segments of what the left would traditionally champion - women, homosexuals, artists, etc. - completely oppressed. After all this time, I still can't get my mind around their complete disconnect.
970 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:09:32am |
re: #957 Occasional Reader
How old was he when Da Juice launched that totally unprovoked, suprise attack on the sovereign state of Arab Palestine, stole all their land, blew up their orchards, and otherwise took their bukkits?
i can haz keys?
971 | gtrs Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:09:33am |
re: #868 Creeping Eruption mchugh is ranking minority on house armed services; seems like a reasonable pick
972 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:09:48am |
re: #958 Killgore Trout
Damn, I screw up that one all the time. Damn spell checker.
Spell checker is NOT your friend.
Eye learned this a long thyme ago!
973 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:10:01am |
975 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:10:22am |
re: #972 OldLineTexan
Spell checker is NOT your friend.
Eye learned this a long thyme ago!
Dam write!
976 | CommonCents Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:10:33am |
re: #960 Ward Cleaver
Uh oh, who's got the thirty Gs that came out the safe on the Maersk Alabama?
If the Seals don't already have it, then give it to them. They earned it.
977 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:10:36am |
978 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:10:38am |
re: #971 gtrs
mchugh is ranking minority on house armed services; seems like a reasonable pick
Seems like it to me. I dont know anything about him though. What does the district look like? Will the Republicans hold on to his seat?
979 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:10:59am |
re: #953 nyc redneck
This much is beyond dispute:
Obama's mentor Frank Davis Marshall was a card-carrying Communist.
No Nazi was ever a mentor of George W. Bush.
980 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:11:13am |
981 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:11:17am |
re: #951 Honorary Yooper
Thinking of that, where is Peacekeeper anyway?
I hear tell he's been posting somewhere else, but I don't know where that somewhere else is.
982 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:11:21am |
We had a cub committee potluck yesterday, and somebody forgot to coordinate the list of who was bringing what. We all decided to bring a main dish. I have about 36 barbecued chicken legs in my fridge.
Lunch is on my today. Help yourself.
(Ah, I think I have some strawberries out in my garden patch, FBV)
983 | notutopia Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:11:36am |
Any astute dog will bite if you beat them with anything.
A dog won’t bite if you beat him with a bone.
— Tom Waits
984 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:11:50am |
re: #978 Creeping Eruption
Seems like it to me. I dont know anything about him though. What does the district look like? Will the Republicans hold on to his seat?
Does everything have to be sexual?
985 | Erik The Red Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:11:53am |
Hello Lizard Nation. Just a quick drive by to say Hi and that I am still alive. To much happening here to quickly. My head is about to explode. Not much time to spend here over the next few weeks. Should be in the US by end of June at the lastest.
987 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:12:21am |
re: #984 Ward Cleaver
Does everything have to be sexual?
I don't think so, but my stance on the issue isn't very wide.
988 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:12:21am |
re: #985 Erik The Red
Hello Lizard Nation. Just a quick drive by to say Hi and that I am still alive. To much happening here to quickly. My head is about to explode. Not much time to spend here over the next few weeks. Should be in the US by end of June at the lastest.
Hey Erik! You get an upding!
989 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:12:38am |
990 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:12:39am |
re: #976 CommonCents
If the Seals don't already have it, then give it to them. They earned it.
Frankly, I'd find it pretty shocking if the Seals took the money. (And I find it very hard to believe they did.)
991 | notutopia Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:13:23am |
re: #985 Erik The Red
Take care Erik. May your plans and move all flow well.
992 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:13:29am |
re: #990 Occasional Reader
Frankly, I'd find it pretty shocking if the Seals took the money. (And I find it very hard to believe they did.)
Maybe Seal took the money.
Ask Heidi how much his allowance is.
/motive
993 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:13:30am |
994 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:13:48am |
re: #971 gtrs
mchugh is ranking minority on house armed services; seems like a reasonable pick
He loves the military, partial to the Army, looks good to me too, but the far left won't like the pick.
996 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:13:52am |
On the 11 o'clock news...
Suspect Pleads Not Guilty in Soldier's Death
posted 06/02/09 9:22 am
Little Rock - A man accused of killing a soldier in a "political and religious" attack on a military recruiting center pleaded not guilty Tuesday to a capital murder charge. He was ordered held without bond.
Abdulhakim Muhammad is charged in Monday's death of 23-year-old William Long outside the Army-Navy Career Center in a west Little Rock shopping center. A prosecutor said Muhammad admitted shooting Long and another soldier "because of what they had done to Muslims in the past."
Long and soldier Quinton Ezeagwula had recently completed basic training and had never seen combat. Police Chief Stuart Thomas said Muhammad was a convert to Islam and was not part of a broader scheme to attack the American military.
A law enforcement official tells The Associated Press that Muhammad was arrested and jailed in Yemen at one point for using a Somali passport.
An FBI (web) -led joint terrorism task force based in the southern United States has been investigating Muhammad after his return to the United States. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, was not authorized to discuss the investigation.
997 | zombie Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:14:24am |
re: #962 redstateredneck
Good for you! I have no fricken idea what you're talking about but it sounds like a good thing.
When you run a blog on your own Web site, you can fiddle with the design -- how it appears. But when you have one of those "free" blogs, hosted by Blogger or WordPress or whatever, you choose a "theme", which is a preset design for how it looks, and that's it -- you're stuck with that theme. There's no real way to fiddle with the details, such as how big the text appears, what the headlines are like, etc. etc.
Well, I just figured out a way to bypass that restriction, and change the appearance of any free blog theme. It's an annoying problem that's been frustrating me (and a billion other people) for years!
998 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:14:38am |
I'm out. I've got to get a hair cut and then get to work.
999 | doppelganglander Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:14:47am |
re: #954 reine.de.tout
I knew my Scrabble pal would catch that one!
1000 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:15:11am |
re: #932 Occasional Reader
Hey, I thought of you yesterday, HH... I was taking a self defense class, and the instructor quoted none other than your mancrush, Denzel! (Something from Training Day about "do you want to go home, or be dead?")
You know who else I have a mancrush on? Gene Washington.. VP of NFL operations.. I have a picture in my den of me sitting on his lap when I was a little kid..My mom went to high school with him..
He is too cool
1001 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:15:20am |
re: #992 OldLineTexan
Maybe Seal took the money.
Ask Heidi how much his allowance is.
/motive
You interrogate Seal, I'll interrogate Heidi.
(I may need to bikini-board her.)
1002 | Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:15:20am |
re: #996 razorbacker
On the 11 o'clock news...
Suspect Pleads Not Guilty in Soldier's Death
posted 06/02/09 9:22 am
I don't know what's so suspicious about a guy who attempts to enter Yemen on a fake Somali passport; sounds like racial profiling on two counts with this one.
///
1003 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:15:43am |
Praise the lord!
Former SBC officer says Tiller murder answer to prayer
While most pro-life leaders condemned the May 31 murder of a controversial abortion provider inside his Wichita, Kan., church, one former Southern Baptist Convention official called it an answer to prayer.
"I am glad George Tiller is dead," Wiley Drake, the SBC's former second vice president, said on his Crusade Radio program June 1.
1004 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:15:57am |
re: #995 UFO TOFU
Off to the DMV. Pray for me.
You don't need prayers
You need a book, a chair, lunch and dinner and a change of undies
1005 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:16:05am |
re: #1001 Occasional Reader
You interrogate Seal, I'll interrogate Heidi.
(I may need to bikini-board her.)
Honestly, Seal already looks like Dick Cheney took him hunting.
1006 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:16:14am |
re: #997 zombie
Probably not a billion. I've told you a trillion times not to exaggerate.
I, for one, have never given it a thought.
1007 | Erik The Red Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:16:15am |
re: #991 notutopia
Take care Erik. May your plans and move all flow well.
Thank you. All going great atm. Just busy. We closed on the house 10 days ago and the new owners move in tomorrow. House packed in 4 days. My wife is a machine. :)
1008 | sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:16:23am |
1010 | CIA Reject Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:16:56am |
re: #1004 sattv4u2
You don't need prayers
You need a book, a chair, lunch and dinner and a change of undies
A quart of bourbon wouldn't hurt either....
1011 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:17:02am |
re: #1002 Guanxi88
on a fake Somali passport
No, no, not "fake"... he's merely an undocumented Somali.
(Or perhaps "differently documented", to be more precise.)
1012 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:17:09am |
re: #1005 OldLineTexan
Honestly, Seal already looks like Dick Cheney took him hunting.
Dude needs some Proactiv.
1013 | KenJen Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:17:31am |
re: #1000 HoosierHoops
You know who else I have a mancrush on? Gene Washington.. VP of NFL operations.. I have a picture in my den of me sitting on his lap when I was a little kid..My mom went to high school with him..
He is too cool
Your only allowed one mancrush. Otherwise it get a little weird. One leads to two, two leads to three... Next your carring a manpurse.
1014 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:17:44am |
re: #1003 Killgore Trout
Praise the lord!
Former SBC officer says Tiller murder answer to prayer
1015 | zombie Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:17:57am |
re: #1006 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Probably not a billion. I've told you a trillion times not to exaggerate.
I, for one, have never given it a thought.
Well, there are something like a billion blogs (not an exaggeration) out there. I guess most people don't even try to change their blog's appearance, but those who do get frustrated like me!
1016 | debutaunt Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:17:59am |
re: #973 Occasional Reader
Yep, the real crime was the SUV.
/gallows humor
He should be sentences to death and a good talking to.
1017 | notutopia Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:14am |
re: #1007 Erik The Red
Some wives are just more capable than others. You chose a great one Erik!
1018 | Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:15am |
re: #1011 Occasional Reader
No, no, not "fake"... he's merely an undocumented Somali.
(Or perhaps "differently documented", to be more precise.)
What, seeking better opportunities in the Horn of Africa than he could pursue in Arkansas? I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe he was up to no good on that particular travel.
1019 | zombie Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:29am |
re: #1003 Killgore Trout
Praise the lord!
Former SBC officer says Tiller murder answer to prayer
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
1020 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:35am |
re: #1013 KenJen
Your only allowed one mancrush. Otherwise it get a little weird. One leads to two, two leads to three... Next your carring a manpurse.
Otherwise known as a "Murse."
1021 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:37am |
re: #1009 notutopia
Yeah, I didn't give the full quote because even I find this stuff upsetting sometimes.
1022 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:44am |
1023 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:18:48am |
re: #1005 OldLineTexan
Honestly, Seal already looks like Dick Cheney took him hunting.
I'll give a well-earned "heh", but also state that I think the tribal scar thingies actually add a lot of character to his face.
I briefly dated a young woman from Sierra Leone who had much, much smaller versions of those... I found them fascinating and actually kind of, well, sexy.
1024 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:19:15am |
re: #969 Russkilitlover
To the left, promoting democracy in the ME is a Bush doctrine. They are so vehemently opposed to Bush (the man) that they can't ever support Bush (policy). Even though the lack of democracy in the ME has huge segments of what the left would traditionally champion - women, homosexuals, artists, etc. - completely oppressed. After all this time, I still can't get my mind around their complete disconnect.
* * * * * *
Pres. Lincoln's policies mean little to democrats.
Liberation from slavery
Making war hell
Freeing people
Suspending habeas corpus in time of war
hanging traitors for sedition
1025 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:19:34am |
re: #1018 Guanxi88
What, seeking better opportunities in the Horn of Africa than he could pursue in Arkansas? I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe he was up to no good on that particular travel.
He wanted to be a pirate.
I saw a documentary on it. For some reason, it was animated.
/
1026 | CommonCents Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:19:56am |
re: #990 Occasional Reader
Frankly, I'd find it pretty shocking if the Seals took the money. (And I find it very hard to believe they did.)
I agree. That could have better phrased as, when they find they money they should give it to the Seals. They've earned it.
1027 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:20:29am |
re: #1023 Occasional Reader
I'll give a well-earned "heh", but also state that I think the tribal scar thingies actually add a lot of character to his face.
I briefly dated a young woman from Sierra Leone who had much, much smaller versions of those... I found them fascinating and actually kind of, well, sexy.
I thought it was acne scars.
Anyway, I can see him and Heidi growing old together, like Newman and Woodward. They've got, what, four kids? They just seem like a good couple.
1029 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:20:49am |
Headline of the day....
Scientists track penguin poop from space
Science!
1030 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:20:52am |
re: #1023 Occasional Reader
I'll give a well-earned "heh", but also state that I think the tribal scar thingies actually add a lot of character to his face.
I briefly dated a young woman from Sierra Leone who had much, much smaller versions of those... I found them fascinating and actually kind of, well, sexy.
I'm just saying I don't think I could get anything out of him under the new interrogation rules. What am I going to do? Smack him with a cushion? The dude is scarred and married to a tough German chick. Obviously a survivor.
1031 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:21:24am |
re: #1013 KenJen
Your only allowed one mancrush. Otherwise it get a little weird. One leads to two, two leads to three... Next your carring a manpurse.
Well..At least I've never lost my Beyonce crush..She is smoking hot...
Anybody here got her Cell number? :)
1032 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:21:25am |
re: #985 Erik The Red
Hello Lizard Nation. Just a quick drive by to say Hi and that I am still alive. To much happening here to quickly. My head is about to explode. Not much time to spend here over the next few weeks. Should be in the US by end of June at the lastest.
We'll leave the light on for ya'.
;-)
1034 | Nevergiveup Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:21:51am |
re: #1004 sattv4u2
Hey, why did you ding me down for pointing out the soldier was in uniform?
1035 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:22:07am |
re: #1027 Ward Cleaver
I thought it was acne scars.
Anyway, I can see him and Heidi growing old together, like Newman and Woodward. They've got, what, four kids? They just seem like a good couple.
Wiki backs you up (more or less) on the scars:
Although there have long been rumors as to the cause of the scars on his face, they are not the result of a tribal scarification rite. Seal’s appearance is the classic example of the condition discoid lupus erythematosus (DLE).
I think the guy is ugly in a very charismatic way, ya know?
1037 | reine.de.tout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:22:19am |
re: #1027 Ward Cleaver
I thought it was acne scars.
Anyway, I can see him and Heidi growing old together, like Newman and Woodward. They've got, what, four kids? They just seem like a good couple.
Seal was born Seal Henry Olusegun Olumide Adeola Samuel in Nigeria to Nigerian parents. He was adopted because his parents were unable to support him financially. He was raised in Paddington, a district of the City of Westminster in inner London. He received a two-year diploma, or associates degree, in architecture and worked in various jobs in the London area.
Although there have long been rumors as to the cause of the scars on his face, they are not the result of a tribal scarification rite. Seal’s appearance is the classic example of the condition discoid lupus erythematosus (DLE). Seal has revealed in interviews that he was afflicted with this syndrome as a teen, a condition where the immune cells attack various body tissues; DLE usually affects young people. Intense inflammation develops in the skin, particularly in sun-exposed areas, and if not treated aggressively with sun protection and anti-inflammatory medicines, scarring can result. Not only did it cause the cheek scars, but he had significant scalp involvement,
causing hair loss. The singer's condition has been in remission for years.
1038 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:22:27am |
re: #1029 Killgore Trout
Headline of the day....
Scientists track penguin poop from space
Science!
I wonder if the Heisenberg principle applies to penguin scat ...
1040 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:22:41am |
re: #1031 HoosierHoops
Well..At least I've never lost my Beyonce crush..She is smoking hot...
Anybody here got her Cell number? :)
No, but I have Jenny's
eight six seven five three oh nine
(to avoid Stinky removing it)
1041 | Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:22:59am |
re: #997 zombie
When you run a blog on your own Web site, you can fiddle with the design -- how it appears. But when you have one of those "free" blogs, hosted by Blogger or WordPress or whatever, you choose a "theme", which is a preset design for how it looks, and that's it -- you're stuck with that theme. There's no real way to fiddle with the details, such as how big the text appears, what the headlines are like, etc. etc.
Well, I just figured out a way to bypass that restriction, and change the appearance of any free blog theme. It's an annoying problem that's been frustrating me (and a billion other people) for years!
I'd recommend Kelby Training.com or similar for those who want to avoid the off the shelf blog look. Doesn't take long to get the web design skills you need and it's not too expensive either.
1042 | Erik The Red Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:06am |
Later. Will be scarce over the next few weeks. God Bless to all.
1043 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:13am |
1044 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:19am |
re: #1023 Occasional Reader
Why don't you just give us a list of the countries whose women you haven't dated? It might be a lot easier...
1045 | itellu3times Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:28am |
re: #957 Occasional Reader
How old was he when Da Juice launched that totally unprovoked, suprise attack on the sovereign state of Arab Palestine, stole all their land, blew up their orchards, and otherwise took their bukkits?
Does that mean he can't apologize for stuff that happened when he was still in kneepants?
/or whatever they wore back then in Indonesia
1046 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:30am |
re: #1031 HoosierHoops
Well..At least I've never lost my Beyonce crush..She is smoking hot...
Anybody here got her Cell number? :)
She is, and yet... something about her seems too "plastic" to me.
1047 | reine.de.tout Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:32am |
re: #1042 Erik The Red
Later. Will be scarce over the next few weeks. God Bless to all.
And to you!
Wishing you well with the move.
1048 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:43am |
re: #1042 Erik The Red
Later. Will be scarce over the next few weeks. God Bless to all.
Be safe, and avoid passing through Somalia or Yemen.
/
1049 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:23:56am |
re: #1031 HoosierHoops
Well..At least I've never lost my Beyonce crush..She is smoking hot...
Anybody here got her Cell number? :)
I agree, she's hot. But when I hear her talk, it ruins it for me.
1050 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:24:04am |
re: #1036 MandyManners
Seal has a form of lupus.
And yet it didn't prevent him from taking out those Somali pirates, did it?
/
1052 | Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:24:31am |
re: #1038 OldLineTexan
I wonder if the Heisenberg principle applies to penguin scat ...
I'm not sure, and there's no way of knowing. Reminds me of the joke:
Heisenberg is pulled over by a traffic cop.
Cop walks over to the vehicle and says, "Sir, do you know how fast you were going back there?"
Heisenberg says, "No, but I knew exactly where I was."
1053 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:24:32am |
re: #1046 Occasional Reader
She is, and yet... something about her seems too "plastic" to me.
OH NO YOU DI'INT!
Beyonce is my homegirl, dawg. Step down.
/
1054 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:24:33am |
re: #1042 Erik The Red
Later. Will be scarce over the next few weeks. God Bless to all.
May God Bless you and bring you and your family home safely...
Fair winds and following Seas Erik
1055 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:24:54am |
re: #1029 Killgore Trout
Headline of the day....
Scientists track penguin poop from space
Science!
How do they know the penguin poop came from space? Are these some kind of extra-terrestrial penguins or what?
1056 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:25:23am |
re: #1044 Kenneth
Why don't you just give us a list of the countries whose women you haven't dated? It might be a lot easier...
-North Korea
-The Duchy of Grand Fenwick
/
1057 | Ward Cleaver Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:25:24am |
re: #1035 Occasional Reader
I think the guy is ugly in a very charismatic way, ya know?
I agree. I don't know much about him, but he just seems like a nice guy.
1058 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:26:09am |
re: #1040 Kosh's Shadow
No, but I have Jenny's
eight six seven five three oh nine
(to avoid Stinky removing it)
Sometimes cashiers at certain stores ask their customers to tell them their phone number. I think it's a demographics thing. Sometimes the clerks are quite young. I think the next time a young clerk asks for my number, I'm going to use my area code and the above number and see if they recognize it.
1059 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:26:17am |
re: #1055 Kenneth
How do they know the penguin poop came from space? Are these some kind of extra-terrestrial penguins or what?
I, for one, welcome our new penguin overlords.
1060 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:26:29am |
re: #1057 Ward Cleaver
I agree. I don't know much about him, but he just seems like a nice guy.
He'd never run around and hurt you.
/
1061 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:27:12am |
re: #976 CommonCents
If the Seals don't already have it, then give it to them. They earned it.
Ah, I second that. A bonus is always nice.
1062 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:27:19am |
1063 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:27:20am |
re: #1056 Occasional Reader
-North Korea
-The Duchy of Grand Fenwick/
After yesterday, I am going to Latvia for my next wife. Sorry, Czech Republic.
/
1064 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:27:26am |
re: #1055 Kenneth
How do they know the penguin poop came from space? Are these some kind of extra-terrestrial penguins or what?
Where did the penguin on the TV come from?
Maybe the penguin came from the zoo
1065 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:27:59am |
re: #1049 Ward Cleaver
I agree, she's hot. But when I hear her talk, it ruins it for me.
She did a pretty good job as Etta James in Cadillac Records. Too bad the movie itself was so crappy.
1066 | razorbacker Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:28:11am |
re: #1029 Killgore Trout
Headline of the day....
Scientists track penguin poop from space
Science!
Huh. I always assumed that crap came from...well...penguins.
If it's alien penguin poop, I say it is time to take to the bunkers and pull the covers up over our heads.
Man, like I ain't got enough to worry about.
1067 | doppelganglander Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:28:14am |
re: #1058 Mad Al-Jaffee
Sometimes cashiers at certain stores ask their customers to tell them their phone number. I think it's a demographics thing. Sometimes the clerks are quite young. I think the next time a young clerk asks for my number, I'm going to use my area code and the above number and see if they recognize it.
That's a good idea. I hate giving out my number or email in stores. I'll give my zip code but I am not fooled by the old coupon come-on.
1068 | MandyManners Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:28:36am |
re: #1044 Kenneth
Why don't you just give us a list of the countries whose women you haven't dated? It might be a lot easier...
I about fell out of my chair.
1069 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:28:45am |
re: #1056 Occasional Reader
OR, International Man of Mystery.
1070 | gtrs Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:29:01am |
re: #978 Creeping Eruption hard to tell(all politics is local); obama won it 52-47 while mchugh was being re-elected by about 65-35; those local races depend on many factors but QUALITY OF CANDIDATE is #1 so we'll have to see who actually runs(chris cilliza has some prelims out already BUT it is way too early; the party's local committees will have a say here)
1071 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:29:09am |
re: #1023 Occasional Reader
I'll give a well-earned "heh", but also state that I think the tribal scar thingies actually add a lot of character to his face.
I briefly dated a young woman from Sierra Leone who had much, much smaller versions of those... I found them fascinating and actually kind of, well, sexy.
I had no idea they were tribal scars until so informed by a nice African at the Blackjack table as we were discussing a Seal song on the entertainment system. The Blackjack tables are often a way for me to chat with folks from around the world. Once played with a Chinese gal who's husband ran a industrial robot company for example.
1072 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:29:28am |
re: #1069 Kenneth
OR, International Man of Mystery.
Hey, dating women from some of those countries is like buying the "Surprise Bag for a Boy" at the dollar store.
/
1073 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:03am |
re: #1063 OldLineTexan
After yesterday, I am going to Latvia for my next wife. Sorry, Czech Republic.
/
I've met exactly one Latvian woman that I can recall. She was gorgeous, friendly, and said she thought Bush did the right thing in invading Iraq. (Alas, she was married.)
1074 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:04am |
re: #925 avanti
Again, I'm sorry. I still can't find the link to him being charged with 15 counts of terrorism already, but I'll keep looking. It is true, I should have known he'd been charged, but it has not hit the MSM news yet, and I missed it.
I heard the 15 counts on the radio this morning. Came up with this in 2 minutes. Maybe the 15 counts won't pan out, but it was stated on KCMO 710 Radio here in Kansas City.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
1075 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:16am |
1076 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:36am |
Had dinner with some friends last night. There were 15 people in the group. 11 Baptists (one, a Southern Baptist Minister), 2 Jews, 2 Atheists. (sounds like the opening to a joke, doesn't it).
All 15 (including the fat guy) were uniformly horrified about Tiller's murder.
1077 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:42am |
re: #1018 Guanxi88
What, seeking better opportunities in the Horn of Africa than he could pursue in Arkansas? I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe he was up to no good on that particular travel.
Arkansas has very few opportunities for piracy. And the local community is well-fed, well-armed, and known to be cranky about hold-ups. You can see how this might limit your man's piracy career.
1078 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:47am |
re: #1023 Occasional Reader
I'll give a well-earned "heh", but also state that I think the tribal scar thingies actually add a lot of character to his face.
I briefly dated a young woman from Sierra Leone who had much, much smaller versions of those... I found them fascinating and actually kind of, well, sexy.
Funny..Andianna Lima is now Preggie...Your girl..
We want all the details OR...All of them...
1079 | zombie Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:30:58am |
re: #1041 Jimmah
I'd recommend Kelby Training.com or similar for those who want to avoid the off the shelf blog look. Doesn't take long to get the web design skills you need and it's not too expensive either.
Wait -- spend...money? That concept is foreign to me.
If I can't figure it out myself, I don't do it.
1080 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:31:00am |
re: #1071 avanti
I had no idea they were tribal scars until so informed by a nice African
See above; according to Wiki, I'm wrong... they're not tribal scars.
1081 | debutaunt Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:31:20am |
1082 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:31:30am |
re: #1073 Occasional Reader
I've met exactly one Latvian woman that I can recall. She was gorgeous, friendly, and said she thought Bush did the right thing in invading Iraq. (Alas, she was married.)
I have a coworker who is of fairly recent Latvian descent and fluent. One of his kids actually played on the Latvian national basketball team in a European tour. I am going to start language lessons.
/
1083 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:31:33am |
re: #1027 Ward Cleaver
I think Seal is very talented. Strikes me as very musically "spiritual". If that is an accurate term.
1084 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:31:38am |
OMG, did anyone see the antisemite democrat poitical speechwriter Heather Hurlburt, debating with Elliott Abrams on whether Pres. Obama should address moslems from Egypt?
This woman accused the Bush Administration of doing nothing for democracy in the Middle East, just talking about it.
(On Fox News about 3 minutes ago)
1085 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:32:19am |
re: #1078 HoosierHoops
Funny..Andianna Lima is now Preggie...Your girl..
We want all the details OR...All of them...
Unfortunately, I had nothing to do with it. It was some Serbian guy who looks like Lurch.
1086 | Creeping Eruption Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:32:23am |
re: #1084 alegrias
OMG, did anyone see the antisemite democrat poitical speechwriter Heather Hurlburt, debating with Elliott Abrams on whether Pres. Obama should address moslems from Egypt?
This woman accused the Bush Administration of doing nothing for democracy in the Middle East, just talking about it.
(On Fox News about 3 minutes ago)
Just about made you hurl, didn't it?
1087 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:32:47am |
Avanti,
Here you go. This says 16 counts. But its from Fox News, so I know you don't count that as MSM.
[Link: www.fox16.com...]
1088 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:32:47am |
re: #1074 kansas
I heard the 15 counts on the radio this morning. Came up with this in 2 minutes. Maybe the 15 counts won't pan out, but it was stated on KCMO 710 Radio here in Kansas City.
Just show sleeping in can cost me major Karma. :)
1089 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:32:54am |
re: #1027 Ward Cleaver
I thought it was acne scars.
Anyway, I can see him and Heidi growing old together, like Newman and Woodward. They've got, what, four kids? They just seem like a good couple.
They're just both so insanely good-looking that it kind of seems like a joke when they're standing side by side. But they do seem like a happy pair, and the kids are adorable.
1090 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:33:03am |
re: #1081 debutaunt
Shaken, stirred and pummeled.
In Thunderball, after Bond is spun in the centrifuge, I thought he should have been asked how he was, and answered
Stirred, but not shaken.
1091 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:33:12am |
re: #1076 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Had dinner with some friends last night. There were 15 people in the group. 11 Baptists (one, a Southern Baptist Minister), 2 Jews, 2 Atheists. (sounds like the opening to a joke, doesn't it).
All 15 (including the fat guy) were uniformly horrified about Tiller's murder.
Sorry, all Southern Baptists are responsible for Wiley Drake. It's the latest logical craze in purity drives.
/you may stone me at your leisure
1092 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:33:21am |
re: #1085 Occasional Reader
Unfortunately, I had nothing to do with it. It was some Serbian guy who looks like Lurch.
Pretty women are walkin' with gorillas down my street
From my window I stare, while my coffee goes cold...
-Joe Jackson
1093 | kansas Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:33:48am |
re: #1088 avanti
Just show sleeping in can cost me major Karma. :)
I would think your case sleeping would get you Karma. : )
1094 | Kenneth Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:34:07am |
Now that's what I call a stimulus!
Several hundred blondes marched through the Latvian capital Riga Sunday in a bid cheer up the crisis-hit Baltic nation, suffering the worst recession in the 27-member EU.
1095 | OldLineTexan Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:34:10am |
re: #1087 kansas
Avanti,
Here you go. This says 16 counts. But its from Fox News, so I know you don't count that as MSM.
[Link: www.fox16.com...]
That is exactly why I linked CNN. To soften the blow.
/
1097 | unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:34:50am |
re: #1093 kansas
I would think your case sleeping would get you Karma. : )
At a minimum it will keep him in retention mode.
1098 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:34:55am |
About Seal...from Wiki
Although there have long been rumors as to the cause of the scars on his face, they are not the result of a tribal scarification rite. Seal’s appearance is the classic example of the condition discoid lupus erythematosus (DLE). Seal has revealed in interviews that he was afflicted with this syndrome as a teen, a condition where the immune cells attack various body tissues; DLE usually affects young people. Intense inflammation develops in the skin, particularly in sun-exposed areas, and if not treated aggressively with sun protection and anti-inflammatory medicines, scarring can result. Not only did it cause the cheek scars, but he had significant scalp involvement, causing hair loss. The singer's condition has been in remission for years.
1099 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:35:21am |
re: #1092 Occasional Reader
Pretty women are walkin' with gorillas down my street
From my window I stare, while my coffee goes cold...-Joe Jackson
Is really really going out with him?
Is she really going to take him home tonight?
1100 | Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:35:34am |
re: #1084 alegrias
This woman accused the Bush Administration of doing nothing for democracy in the Middle East
It's true that Iraqi elections are now much more "divisive"... the winner used to get 99.999% of the vote! Damn you, Bush!
1101 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:35:49am |
1102 | capitalist piglet Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:36:10am |
Rush just said the Hummer line is going to the Chinese. Said it was reported on MSNBC, I think.
1103 | JohnnyReb Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:36:12am |
re: #1059 Occasional Reader
I, for one, welcome our new penguin overlords.
The penguins are under the bed, repeat under the bed. They are not in the refrigerator.
1104 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:36:40am |
Egypt launches 'moderate' satellite TV
A group of prominent clerics has announced the launch of a new satellite channel in Egypt that will promote the face of what it calls moderate Islam, in order to counter the "distortion of Islam into a violent, intolerant force."
....
Prof. Hussein Amin, chair of the Department of Journalism and Mass Communication at the American University in Cairo and an expert on Arab satellite channels, said the channel was a good way to confront confusing and sometimes-hateful messages aired on satellite channels. Al-Azhar, he said, was recognized as a reliable religious authority and promoted a moderate school of thought in its preaching to the public.
Think it will still show that Egyptian TV adaptation of the Protocols, Horseman Without a Horse?
Probably.
1106 | avanti Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:36:56am |
re: #1095 OldLineTexan
That is exactly why I linked CNN. To soften the blow.
/
Nothing from KOS ? :)
1107 | Russkilitlover Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:37:10am |
re: #1046 Occasional Reader
She is, and yet... something about her seems too "plastic" to me.
Is this your subtle attempt to turn this into a boob thread?
1108 | redstateredneck Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:37:46am |
re: #1089 SanFranciscoZionist
They're just both so insanely good-looking that it kind of seems like a joke when they're standing side by side. But they do seem like a happy pair, and the kids are adorable.
They renew their wedding vows every year. This year, it was a trailer trash themed wedding.
1109 | alegrias Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:42:52am |
re: #1100 Occasional Reader
It's true that Iraqi elections are now much more "divisive"... the winner used to get 99.999% of the vote! Damn you, Bush!
* * * * *
You crack me up, OR. But,
Heather Hurlburt the democrat political speechwriter is truly vile to ignore what Americans & Afghans & Iraqis have sacrificed and died to achieve on behalf of over 50 MILLION people.
Toppling the Taliban terrorist governments of Afghanistan & Iraq means NOTHING to these antisemitic, anti-freedom, partisan hacks.
1110 | John Neverbend Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:53:19am |
re: #995 UFO TOFU
Off to the DMV. Pray for me.
Did you check their website which gives optimal times to go to their offices, in order to cut down the waiting time to around 3 days?
1111 | gtrs Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:54:05am |
re: #1003 Killgore Trout bet you 10-1 that wacko followed up his sick rant with an appeal for money
1112 | gtrs Tue, Jun 2, 2009 9:55:54am |
re: #1110 John Neverbend
in FLA you can do most of that stuff on-line(actually kind of a scary thought)
1113 | gtrs Tue, Jun 2, 2009 10:00:02am |
re: #994 avanti
with respect to the far left; i don't want those folks picking who runs our military(nor those on the far right for that matter)
1114 | aggieann Tue, Jun 2, 2009 10:01:40am |
re: #1077 SanFranciscoZionist
Arkansas has very few opportunities for piracy. And the local community is well-fed, well-armed, and known to be cranky about hold-ups. You can see how this might limit your man's piracy career.
But Arkansas IS the Land of Opportunity. License plates never lie!
1115 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Tue, Jun 2, 2009 10:01:52am |
OT (if that's possible in an Open Thread)
IRS REVENUE DROPS
The IRS collected $138 billion less in tax revenue in April than just a year ago – a 34% drop and the biggest decrease since 1981. According to a study released by the American Institute for Economic Research, the recession and high unemployment have had dire implications for the federal budget and the ever-expanding deficit.
In an interview with USA Today, senior fellow Kerry Lynch said that 6 million people lost jobs in the 12 months that ended in April, and that led to a 44% drop in individual income tax revenue collected by the IRS. The Service collected $137 billion in income taxes in April 2009, down from $244 billion last year.
See IRS tax revenue falls along with taxpayers' income By John Waggoner, USA TODAY.
1116 | John Neverbend Tue, Jun 2, 2009 10:04:13am |
re: #1104 Kosh's Shadow
Egypt launches 'moderate' satellite TV
Think it will still show that Egyptian TV adaptation of the Protocols, Horseman Without a Horse?
Probably.
"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." It was one of Oscar's.