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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:46:42pm

CL’d perfectly:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:04:28pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:28:30pm

Happy passover. After our seder smoked weed with ex wife and our 22 year old twins. Ex insisted daughter was doing it wrong. I am old and life is strange.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:30:37pm

re: #3 I Would Prefer Not To

Question: How is Seder pronounced?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:33:29pm

Unre: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: How is Seder pronounced?

Say der. Im a little out of it. Read my last post.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:48:43pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:49:14pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:51:42pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:53:07pm

Next week is going to be the infrastructure week to beat all infrastructure weeks.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:54:17pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Next week is going to be the infrastructure week to beat all infrastructure weeks.

We’re talkin’ TVA rural electrification mega dam building infrastructure!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:07:02pm

Notre Dame Cathedral’s rooftop bees have survived the fire.

mentalfloss.com

The bees were a recent addition to the church. The church’s beekeeper saw that drone footage of the church following the fire shows the three hives are still in place on the lower wooden roofs (which did not burn), and bees are flying in and out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:32:08pm

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TedStriker  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:34:49pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:41:14pm

Key & Peele have been slowly adding some of their skits to YouTube. This was uploaded yesterday.

An Office Prank Goes Way Too Far - Key & Peele

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:50:14pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:53:22pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:10:32pm
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nicdanger  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:38:25pm

re: #17 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I had this on 8 Track…

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:44:32pm

The Who should not be played at less than 100 dB.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:45:39pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:50:27pm

Meanwhile, in the state of Washington:

A group calling itself Genesis II Church of Health and Healing plans to convene at a hotel resort in Washington state on Saturday to promote a “miracle cure” that claims to cure 95% of all diseases in the world by making adults and children, including infants, drink industrial bleach.

The group is inviting members of the public through Facebook to attend what they call their “effective alternative healing” at the Icicle Village Resort in Leavenworth on Saturday morning. The organizer of the event, Tom Merry, has publicized the event on his personal Facebook page by telling people that learning how to consume the bleach “could save your life, or the life of a loved one sent home to die”.

The “church” is asking attendants of the meeting to “donate” $450 each, or $800 per couple, in exchange for receiving membership to the organization as well as packages of the bleach, which they call “sacraments”. The chemical is referred to as MMS, or “miracle mineral solution or supplement”, and participants are promised they will acquire “the knowledge to help heal many people of this world’s terrible diseases”.

theguardian.com

JFC.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:52:23pm

re: #21 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure our local water system is chlorinated enough.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:55:17pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I’m pretty sure our local water system is chlorinated enough.

I concede they may well have a point.

After all, you can’t get sick when you’re dead, amirite?

/// (* infinity)

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:02:41am

This was the day after I saw Umphrey’s McGee in a nightclub in Aspen, CO.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:13:05am

re: #21 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in the state of Washington:

theguardian.com

JFC.

And by claiming “church” it will be a lot harder to go after them, unless they obtained the sodium hypochlorite unlawfully.

Churches can get away with a whole lot of nonsense in this country (like drinking strychnine) by arguing “freedom of religion.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:28:51am

New York City has instituted a mandatory fine for people who do not get the MMR vaccine.

newsandguts.com

That fine has been upheld by a court.

The city is worried about Passover, and the number of Orthodox Jews who will come into the city. Some Orthodox communities object to vaccinations.

The El Al flight attendant who came down with measles on a flight from New York to Israel is now in a coma.

The CDC puts the number of cases of measles in the USA now at over 550.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:32:18am

We should confine them to sanatoriums until they get vaccinated.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:41:41am

Hell Freezes Over (goes to Juanita Jean’s)

A group called “Republicans for the Rule of Law” (founded in 2017) ran an advert on FOX (advert in the article) noting that it’s clear from the Mueller Report that political interference in the investigation was perpetrated by Trump.

They say the point of the advert is to get the attention of Republican politicians to begin speaking out against Trump’s lawlessness.

Good luck with that.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:51:30am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:01:37am

Gordon Klingenschmitt Loses Election in Colorado Springs (5:57)

(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language)

Gordon Klingenschmitt Loses Election

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freetoken  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:47:03am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:51:37am

re: #21 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in the state of Washington:

theguardian.com

JFC.

It appears that the FDA has removed its warning from its Website about MMS. It also removed its press announcement.

The link is still there, but goes to a “page not found” error.

fda.gov

Now why would they remove that? Sodium hypochlorite hasn’t become any safer.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:56:13am

Never marry a drummer.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:58:02am

re: #19 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

The Who should not be played at less than 100 dB.

Which is why Pete is deaf now.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:00:07am

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Who knows anymore? There’s all kinds of lunacy out there now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:01:39am

re: #33 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Never marry a drummer.

[smack]

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:07:10am

It looks like the Mueller Report may be having an effect on Trump’s popularity as there has been a recent tic upward in his disapproval rating and downward in his approval rating. He has had a remarkably narrow range over the last two years, usually remaining at around 52-53% disapproval, except there was a big spike upward when he shutdown the government. I expect that after a few weeks his disapproval rating will settle back down to between 52-53%; he is really going to have an uphill battle to get re-elected.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:10:50am

re: #37 NO SMOCKING GUN!

he is really going to have an uphill battle to avoid dying in prison

FTFY.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:14:51am

re: #37 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It looks like the Mueller Report may be having an effect on Trump’s popularity as there has been a recent tic upward in his disapproval rating and downward in his approval rating. He has had a remarkably narrow range over the last two years, usually remaining at around 52-53% disapproval, except there was a big spike upward when he shutdown the government. I expect that after a few weeks his disapproval rating will settle back down to between 52-53%; he is really going to have an uphill battle to get re-elected.

That’s why impeachment hearings are important.

The US House committees are now conducting the various investigations which can be used for a basis for an impeachment vote if warranted.

What worries me about impeachment is not that it might hand the GOP a weapon going into the 2020 election. What really worries me is if the House conducts the appropriate investigations and it does not find sufficient evidence to warrant impeachment.

All those hanging their hat on impeachment on the left then take their ball and go home, thinking the whole system is rigged (not that a proper investigation did not find sufficient evidence to support articles of impeachment).

All that said, the political ramifications of impeachment (what if this turns out GOP voters, what if this is painted as “political,” &c) should not matter to Democrats. What should matter is upholding the rule of law.

If the evidence indicates there should be articles of impeachment, then political considerations should not weigh on that decision (will we win or lose in 2020).

As for VP Pence, in the event (which seems unlikely) that he should become President, we can deal with that when it happens.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:23:32am

re: #38 Sufficient unto the day…

FTFY.

Or he may have to flee to Moscow.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:29:40am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

That’s why impeachment hearings are important.

The US House committees are now conducting the various investigations which can be used for a basis for an impeachment vote if warranted.

What worries me about impeachment is not that it might hand the GOP a weapon going into the 2020 election. What really worries me is if the House conducts the appropriate investigations and it does not find sufficient evidence to warrant impeachment.

All those hanging their hat on impeachment on the left then take their ball and go home, thinking the whole system is rigged (not that a proper investigation did not find sufficient evidence to support articles of impeachment).

All that said, the political ramifications of impeachment (what if this turns out GOP voters, what if this is painted as “political,” &c) should not matter to Democrats. What should matter is upholding the rule of law.

If the evidence indicates there should be articles of impeachment, then political considerations should not weigh on that decision (will we win or lose in 2020).

As for VP Pence, in the event (which seems unlikely) that he should become President, we can deal with that when it happens.

I kind of agree that the rule of law should be upheld, but that could be done by indicting Trump once he is out of office. The single most pressing issue is to make sure the Democrats win control of the federal government in 2020. There will be congressional investigations, but unless Trump’s support in the Senate completely crumbles letting the Senate GOP acquit him will be spun as a great victory by the GOP. So if the hearings produce a collapse in Trump’s support with Republican voters Pelosi could trigger impeachment, but with the election coming up so soon the better strategy may be to let a crippled Trump stay on the ballot and drag the entire GOP down with him next November.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:29:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:35:54am

re: #41 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I kind of agree that the rule of law should be upheld, but that could be done by indicting Trump once he is out of office. The single most pressing issue is to make sure the Democrats win control of the federal government in 2020. There will be congressional investigations, but unless Trump’s support in the Senate completely crumbles letting the Senate GOP acquit him will be spun as a great victory by the GOP. So if the hearings produce a collapse in Trump’s support with Republican voters Pelosi could trigger impeachment, but with the election coming up so soon the better strategy may be to let a crippled Trump stay on the ballot and drag the entire GOP down with him next November.

And that right there was what I was arguing.

The Constitution is clear on the issue of holding impeachment hearings if there is a dangerous or criminal official in office.

Putting aside the Constitution Democrats swore to uphold and protect for potential political gain in 2020 (and there is no guarantee that will happen) makes Democrats no better than Republicans.

The largest block of voters in the election was those who didn’t vote. If one is looking for a political angle, then public hearings on impeachment would dominate the airwaves and reach those voters who did not vote in the last presidential election.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:42:12am
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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:53:27am

So this popped up in a local tabloid, Aftonbladet.

In Poland, there is this group named Ordo Iuris, which opposes abortion, homosexuality and sex education. It is hidden, but appears to have the support of the current government there.

They are running a “Save the Children” campaign. The campaign states that no sex education should be allowed in schools without parents expressly approving it. In particular, one should not be informed about homosexuality. When the Mayor of Warsaw recently signed a declaration to give sexual minorities the same rights as heterosexuals, Ordo Iuris demanded that the mayor withdraw his signature and called for protests.

They claimed that the Warsaw mayor wants to teach the children to masturbate when they are four and say yes to sex when they are six. “Ten-year-olds learned to put on a condom and how to make a child. My children are at that age and I think it is too early to learn about such things. Here we keep the traditions. I believe many other countries in Europe are envious of us because we have firmer rules and can combine it with economic growth.

Ordo Iuris rep is quoted as saying “You should not have sex with someone from the same sex. One should not have sex for fun.”. And they are keeping a blacklist of sex educators in the country.

And the usual “keep the traditions”, “Poland awake” etc…

FYI, as it is known that the alt-right has assisted cross-pollination, just a heads up what might crop up.

Source: aftonbladet.se

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:54:28am

re: #45 Teukka

Addendum: The organization consists for the most part of lawyers.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:01:56am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

And that right there was what I was arguing.

The Constitution is clear on the issue of holding impeachment hearings if there is a dangerous or criminal official in office.

Putting aside the Constitution Democrats swore to uphold and protect for potential political gain in 2020 (and there is no guarantee that will happen) makes Democrats no better than Republicans.

The largest block of voters in the election was those who didn’t vote. If one is looking for a political angle, then public hearings on impeachment would dominate the airwaves and reach those voters who did not vote in the last presidential election.

I’m not sure, however, that the last thing we want those voters to see is Trump being acquitted by the Senate. Might not that make them even more cynical about government and less inclined to vote? I’m just not sure, and polling indicates voters don’t want an impeachment, thought we’ll see if the revelations in the Mueller Report changes that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:29:55am

re: #45 Teukka

So this popped up in a local tabloid, Aftonbladet.

In Poland, there is this group named Ordo Iuris, which opposes abortion, homosexuality and sex education. It is hidden, but appears to have the support of the current government there.

Poland has really gone Fundamentalist on top of going nationalist.

Maybe ten years is a bit too early for sex education but 12 or 13 is not.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:32:44am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Poland has really gone Fundamentalist on top of going nationalist.

Maybe ten years is a bit too early for sex education but 12 or 13 is not.

Some pieces should be in place at 8-10 somewhere. Meatier stuff at a little older.
And don’t fundieism and nationalism kinda sorta come as a package deal?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:34:38am

re: #49 Teukka

Some pieces should be in place at 8-10 somewhere. Meatier stuff at a little older.
And don’t fundieism and nationalism kinda sorta come as a package deal?

In Poland especially, every time we turned on a TV while vacationing there, they were broadcasting a documentary or drama about the Polish Civil War or WW2, told very much from the Polish view of events.

And you can get thrown in prison for even hinting that the Poles took an active role in persecuting the Jews there during the German occupation.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:38:09am

re: #42 Teukka

Tankies are the worst.

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freetoken  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:01:14am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:01:30am

re: #45 Teukka

So this popped up in a local tabloid, Aftonbladet.

In Poland, there is this group named Ordo Iuris, which opposes abortion, homosexuality and sex education. It is hidden, but appears to have the support of the current government there.

They are running a “Save the Children” campaign. The campaign states that no sex education should be allowed in schools without parents expressly approving it. In particular, one should not be informed about homosexuality. When the Mayor of Warsaw recently signed a declaration to give sexual minorities the same rights as heterosexuals, Ordo Iuris demanded that the mayor withdraw his signature and called for protests.

They claimed that the Warsaw mayor wants to teach the children to masturbate when they are four and say yes to sex when they are six. “Ten-year-olds learned to put on a condom and how to make a child. My children are at that age and I think it is too early to learn about such things. Here we keep the traditions. I believe many other countries in Europe are envious of us because we have firmer rules and can combine it with economic growth.

Ordo Iuris rep is quoted as saying “You should not have sex with someone from the same sex. One should not have sex for fun.”. And they are keeping a blacklist of sex educators in the country.

And the usual “keep the traditions”, “Poland awake” etc…

FYI, as it is known that the alt-right has assisted cross-pollination, just a heads up what might crop up.

Source: aftonbladet.se

I don’t know if this is so much alt-right cross-pollination as it is religious indoctrination.

Every one of those claims (you should not have sex for fun, you should not have sex with someone else of the same sex, &c) are promoted by almost every religious denomination (especially the Catholic Church, the majority church of Poland).

Blacklisting sex educators occasionally occurs in the USA. When there are strong church groups they will also try to get sex education removed (or the teachers removed).

Then there is the issue of abortion. Religious people are famous for harassment and blacklisting providers and patients.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:11:20am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know if this is so much alt-right cross-pollination as it is religious indoctrination.

Polish nationalists also see Catholicism as the state religion. I am not sure if it established or not, but it has become a major part of their national identity, as with Russian Orthodoxy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:19:23am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Poland especially, every time we turned on a TV while vacationing there, they were broadcasting a documentary or drama about the Polish Civil War or WW2, told very much from the Polish view of events.

And you can get thrown in prison for even hinting that the Poles took an active role in persecuting the Jews there during the German occupation.

Some Poles probably did. Most Poles did not.

Yad Vashem lists out the Righteous Among the Nations. Poles are far and away the most represented.

The government of Poland most certainly did not participate in any aspect of the Holocaust, as it was forced into exile a couple weeks after Germany and the Soviet Union invaded it.

The phrase “Polish death camps” rankles not only Poles, but those of Polish descent in the USA. Extermination camps in Poland were run by Germany, not Poland.

Moreover, in the General Government area (the area of Poland occupied by Nazi Germany), Poles who were not Jewish were limited in education to fourth grade. The intelligensia and politicians who did not escape were rounded up. Over 9,000 Polish schoolteachers were murdered by the Nazis.

Hitler viewed Poles as sub-human and the goal was to exterminate them as well, with a goal set of 1975.

education.stateuniversity.com (about halfway down on education)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:22:24am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

Some Poles probably did. Most Poles did not.

There is a well documented case in Jedwabne where Germans stood and watched as the local Poles locked the village Jews in a barn and torched it, but those who would dare mention it now face a prison sentence.

They were nearly as anti-Semitic as the Germans, they just did not have an industrially organized ideology behind it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:29:19am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a well documented case in Jedwabne where Germans stood and watched as the local Poles locked the village Jews in a barn and torched it, but those who would dare mention it now face a prison sentence.

They were nearly as anti-Semitic as the Germans, they just did not have an industrially organized ideology behind it.

I can’t say about prison sentences and such. When we were in Poland that didn’t exist.

As for being “nearly as anti-Semitic as the Germans,” that doesn’t really square with Poland having the largest population of Jews of any European nation prior to WW2.
en.wikipedia.org (Table, percentage of Jews in the world by nation. Poland had far-and-away the highest percentage of Jews in the whole world.)

As for anti-Semites, they existed in every country. If you bring up a well-documented atrocity, so will I. The SS Saint Louis. The USA wound up sending Jews to extermination camps.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:30:55am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:32:26am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

As for being “nearly as anti-Semitic as the Germans,” that doesn’t really square with Poland having the largest population of Jews of any European nation prior to WW2.

Perhaps a bit hyperbolic there, but one major reason they had so many Jews is that Poland was within the Pale of Settlement, as Jews were banned from owning land in Russia

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:35:44am

I’m going to have to mosey off to bed.

Rant: I’m mad at the company which now handles appointment scheduling for the VA (because the GOP thinks corporations do everything better and contracted out the VA appointment system).

I’ve been waiting days for a callback for an appointment which now has to be scheduled by the company through E-mail to the nurse practitioner in Sidney. When I call, they tell me to keep waiting. I’ve been in pretty bad pain for three weeks. (WebMD says there’s a chance I have cancer, but WebMD says that about everything. Hangnail? Might be cancer.)

The nurse lives across the street from me. I’ll go bang on her door and ask if she can straighten this out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:40:21am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Perhaps a bit hyperbolic there, but one major reason they had so many Jews is that Poland was within the Pale of Settlement, as Jews were banned from owning land in Russia

Ya learn new stuff here every day. I was unaware of the “Pale of Settlement,” so I looked it up.

That was the area the Russian Empire permitted Jews to live in (which at times included parts of pre-WW1 Poland). Jews were only permitted to live outside that area in very limited circumstances.

That said, many of Europe’s other nations weren’t exactly fans of Jewish citizens either. (Spain notoriously expelled Jews immediately following the Reconquista, leading to most fleeing to Ottoman Empire controlled lands.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:48:37am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Ya learn new stuff here every day. I was unaware of the “Pale of Settlement,” so I looked it up.

That was the area the Russian Empire permitted Jews to live in (which at times included parts of pre-WW1 Poland). Jews were only permitted to live outside that area in very limited circumstances.

That said, many of Europe’s other nations weren’t exactly fans of Jewish citizens either. (Spain notoriously expelled Jews immediately following the Reconquista, leading to most fleeing to Ottoman Empire controlled lands.)

One of my favorite old Procol Harum songs:

Procol Harum: Beyond the pale

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:52:03am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of my favorite old Procol Harum songs:

Quit educating me!

I hadn’t heard of that band before. That is an interesting song.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:56:51am

They are one of those great old bands, like the Grateful Dead or King Crimson that had their own lyricist, a guy who just wrote poetry that the bands put to music.

I always wanted to be one of those, but could not write so I had to learn an instrument.

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jeffreyw  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:03:23am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:10:15am

re: #65 jeffreyw

A picture of a Canadian baseball player? /s

I’m out now. The sun is up, it’s past my bedtime. G’night.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:24:41am

Postscript on the way out:

2 Avon Park Middle School girls charged with murder plot to kill 9 (Goes to the Lakeland, Fla. Ledger)

Two fourteen year-old girls have been arrested after plotting to kill nine students by luring them to a murder site. Detailed plans were uncovered by a teacher, who forwarded the information to the sheriff.

They have been charged with nine counts of premeditated homicide and three counts of kidnapping.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:34:13am
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jeffreyw  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:36:32am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

The beard on the jay bird caught my eye. I’ve seen the top crest on every position but I had no idea that the throat feathers did anything more than lay flat.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:55:35am

re: #68 Belafon

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:59:57am

re: #68 Belafon

Oh, and he STILL has my set of the 5th edition books :D

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:01:26am

re: #68 Belafon

Isn’t the actor Vin Diesel a huge D&D fan? Like, a Dungeonmaster or something?

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:03:45am

re: #47 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m not sure, however, that the last thing we want those voters to see is Trump being acquitted by the Senate. Might not that make them even more cynical about government and less inclined to vote? I’m just not sure, and polling indicates voters don’t want an impeachment, thought we’ll see if the revelations in the Mueller Report changes that.

I think doing the right thing is good, as ‘mouse is saying.

But remember one side does the right thing, the other does not and it seems it only costs the side that does the right thing.

How did we end up with Trump again? Someone pushed the wrong thing on us and here we are.

If only politics were about the right thing.

Anyone know the last time it was?

Oh yeah…morning!

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:05:50am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

Isn’t the actor Vin Diesel a huge D&D fan? Like, a Dungeonmaster or something?

He’s listed in the article.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:06:09am

re: #74 Belafon

He’s listed in the article.

Ah, OK.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:08:04am

re: #73 ObserverArt

I think doing the right thing is good, as ‘mouse is saying.

But remember one side does the right thing, the other does not and it seems it only costs the side that does the right thing.

How did we end up with Trump again? Someone pushed the wrong thing on us and here we are.

If only politics were about the right thing.

Anyone know the last time it was?

Oh yeah…morning!

We are still in an era where the GOP can do things Democrats can’t. “No good deed goes unpunished” applies to the Democrars. As wary as I am, though, I think we ultimately have to go through with it, just take our time.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:09:25am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

Ah, OK.

Vin Diesel, Jon Favreau, Drew Barrymore, Dwayne Johnson, James Franco, Stephen Colbert, Anderson Cooper, Ta-Nehisi Coates: The list of celebrities who have “come out” about rolling the 20-sided dice is as long as a wizard’s beard. “Game of Thrones” writer George R.R. Martin first flexed his storytelling muscles as a young Dungeon Master, as did the showrunners on the HBO series. Joe Manganiello is so obsessed that he wrote a D&D movie script. The game has been on TV shows including “Big Bang Theory” and “Futurama.” Next month will see the release of a “Stranger Things” tie-in D&D starter set…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:09:30am

re: #76 Belafon

We are still in an era where the GOP can do things Democrats can’t. “No good deed goes unpunished” apples to the Democrars. As wary as I am, though, I think we ultimately have to go through with it, just take our time.

And Trump can get away with things that no other politician has been able to get away with.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:11:33am

re: #76 Belafon

We are still in an era where the GOP can do things Democrats can’t. “No good deed goes unpunished” apples to the Democrars. As wary as I am, though, I think we ultimately have to go through with it, just take our time.

The fork in the road…an impeachment vote in the house …is a ways off. No decision need be made now.

Full speed ahead on thorough and widespread legitimate investigations

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:11:42am

re: #77 Belafon

Joining Wil Wheaton’s campaign is considered one of the highest honors a geek can hope for ;)

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:12:49am

re: #80 William Lewis

Joining Wil Wheaton’s campaign is considered one of the highest honors a geek can hope for ;)

I’ve seen that episode.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:14:55am

Imagine being in a game with Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:15:19am

re: #82 Belafon

Imagine being in a game with Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson.

LOL I was just thinking the same.

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:20:08am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

Isn’t the actor Vin Diesel a huge D&D fan? Like, a Dungeonmaster or something?

Joe Manganello has a D&D group that meets in his basement, his wife Sophia Vergara brings them sandwiches. She’s discussed this on various talk shows; Joe M is obviously the envy of every pimply teenage geek-boy (past, present and future) in the universe.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:20:31am

re: #82 Belafon

Well…I’d certainly give them advantage on Intimidation checks.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:25:33am

re: #85 Sufficient unto the day…

Well…I’d certainly give them advantage on Intimidation checks.

Now imagine them both playing halflings.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:27:20am

re: #84 sagehen

Joe Manganello has a D&D group that meets in his basement, his wife Sophia Vergara brings them sandwiches. She’s discussed this on various talk shows; Joe M is obviously the envy of every pimply teenage geek-boy (past, present and future) in the universe.

45 years ago was my freshman year in college. Though I did not play D&D, several of my good friends did. I reckon that was the first edition rules.

My college days were occupied with classes, homework, part-time job, student newspaper, meals and occasionally sleep. If I’d gotten hooked on D&D, there’s no telling what might have happened.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:27:26am

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:32:24am
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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:34:07am

re: #6 wrenchwench

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My fantasy of Trump’s end involves him being stuffed alive into a sarcophagus and slowly eaten through eternity by an army of scarab beetles. Unfortunately, that punishment was already used in the Mummy, so I’ll have to settle for something more mundane, like lethal injection.

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:36:12am

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹

Notre Dame Cathedral’s rooftop bees have survived the fire.

mentalfloss.com

The bees were a recent addition to the church. The church’s beekeeper saw that drone footage of the church following the fire shows the three hives are still in place on the lower wooden roofs (which did not burn), and bees are flying in and out.

Having eliminated the annoying tourist traffic, their mission has been accomplished. Now, on to stage 2, where they continue to cause the Brexit clusterfuck through careful management of social media.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:36:37am

re: #90 steve_davis

Nah, what’s worse is ADX Florence.

Prisoners spend 23 hours per day in single, soundproof cells with facilities made of poured concrete to deter self-harm, and 24-hour supervision, carried out intensively with high staff-inmate ratios. Phones are generally banned and only limited broadcast entertainment permitted.

That’s worse than death, at least in my book. Imagine spending every day for the rest of your natural life confined there.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:37:55am

re: #90 steve_davis

My fantasy of Trump’s end involves him being stuffed alive into a sarcophagus and slowly eaten through eternity by an army of scarab beetles. Unfortunately, that punishment was already used in the Mummy, so I’ll have to settle for something more mundane, like lethal injection.

My preferred fantasy of Trumps and the (current) GOP’s end involves them doing something they thought was well hidden in practically plain daylight. Them getting caught with a couple of big fat juice and very smelly lies, so insanely idiotic that not only will the world wonder how the holy fuck did they believe that shit would fly, but also “why the fuck lie about it at all”?

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:38:22am

re: #19 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

The Who should not be played at less than 100 dB.

The Maximum R&B version of a Quick One While He’s Away, with the merging of two performances, is glorious. You go from the hokey Happy Trails to jet-engine level Les Paul in roughly 10 minutes.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:38:40am

Just saw this earlier this morning.

I’m sure there will be complaining about this because the Kate Smith version of God Bless America is used by a lot of people as a great American song. Now the question is was Kate Smith a great American or was she just a part of the past that was…racist.

You know, in enough time we might get all of this worked out.

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:39:35am

re: #95 ObserverArt

Just saw this earlier this morning.

I;m sure there will be complaining about this because the Kate Smith version of God Bless America is used by a lot of people as a great American song. Now the question is was Kate Smith a great American or was she just a part of the past that was…racist.

You know, in enough time we might get all of this worked out.

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TBH I don’t like GBA at sports games period.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:42:37am

re: #95 ObserverArt

Just saw this earlier this morning.

I;m sure there will be complaining about this because the Kate Smith version of God Bless America is used by a lot of people as a great American song. Now the question is was Kate Smith a great American or was she just a part of the past that was…racist.

You know, in enough time we might get all of this worked out.

There is a big distinction between what was accepted then and what is acceptable now.

But I am losing faith in our ability to sort out such things in a climate that thrives on sensationalism and outrage.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:43:40am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t like GBA at sports games period.

To be honest, I can do without the going-through-the-motions National Anthem too.

But that may just be me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:44:32am

Anyhow, I think you have to talk about those things in our past. So maybe not playing her version of the song isn’t ultimately the answer. I think we need to talk about why songs like that were considered acceptable more so than not playing the song but it’s up to the Yankees, Flyers, and other organizations what they do and don’t. That said, I really feel we need a conversation on racism in our country’s history and culture.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:44:46am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:45:23am

re: #98 ObserverArt

To be honest, I can do without the going-through-the-motions National Anthem too.

But that may just be me.

Nah not just you. I go to baseball games because I love baseball. I really don’t like how sports and patriotism have been combined.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:45:45am

re: #100 wrenchwench

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Totally liberals. //

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:47:43am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Totally liberals. //

False flag op. They were paid actors. ///

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:50:14am

re: #103 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

False flag op. They were paid actors. ///

You know, I want to know where I go to get parts in these false flag operations. I’ve always wanted to be an actor. // So where does a guy go to play the role of angry white conservative guy? //

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:50:38am

Saw Captain Marvel finally. Kick-ass movie.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:52:03am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

You know, I want to know where I go to get parts in these false flag operations. I’ve always wanted to be an actor. // So where does a guy go to play the role of angry white conservative guy? //

Well, the paychecks are far from regular. The Soros SJW payroll office must be short-staffed.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:02:03am

I’ll take it all day

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:03:11am

re: #100 wrenchwench

“The Providence Journal reports the two were both wearing red armbands with swastikas on them and the woman wore a T-shirt with a swastika emblazoned on it. The man was also reportedly wearing a red “MAGA” hat. He also had swastikas tattooed where eyebrows are typically located.”

Such intolerant liberals for banning them…

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:05:55am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:07:59am

re: #107 Dave In Austin

I’ll take it all day

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It is refreshing to see that from a man who got elected due to the Tea Party stupidity. I definitely understand the cynicism towards him but if we’re going to not just impeach him and even defeat him in the election but make it so people like him aren’t viable again, I’m going to appreciate that Joe Walsh gets why Trump needs to go.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:14:04am
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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:14:39am

re: #49 Teukka

Some pieces should be in place at 8-10 somewhere. Meatier stuff at a little older.
And don’t fundieism and nationalism kinda sorta come as a package deal?

Meaning of Life - Sex Education

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:18:09am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

It is refreshing to see that from a man who got elected due to the Tea Party stupidity. I definitely understand the cynicism towards him but if we’re going to not just impeach him and even defeat him in the election but make it so people like him aren’t viable again, I’m going to appreciate that Joe Walsh gets why Trump needs to go.

The only way Trump is going to be impeached is if there are a lot of Joe Walsh types that start saying what he is to Republican congress members.

Mitt Romney took a shot at Trump. There are the never-Trumpers that understand it might be necessary. Just need for the more and more conservatives to make the turn against Trump and he will be gone.

That is why the Democrats best bet would be to keep digging and every day exposing more and more of his corruption and keep mentioning impeachment. Get America talking more and more and wear down any opposition.

Next week is going to be telling. If more actual Republican congress members start talking about Trump negatively it will mean they have stopped down playing the Mueller report and actually are starting to feel some political pressure.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:21:24am

re: #113 ObserverArt

The only way Trump is going to be impeached is if there are a lot of Joe Walsh types that start saying what he is to Republican congress members.

Mitt Romney took a shot at Trump. There are the never-Trumpers that understand it might be necessary. Just need for the more and more conservatives to make the turn against Trump and he will be gone.

That is why the Democrats best bet would be to keep digging and every day exposing more and more of his corruption and keep mentioning impeachment. Get America talking more and more and wear down any opposition.

Next week is going to be telling. If more actual Republican congress members start talking about Trump negatively it will mean they have stopped down playing the Mueller report and actually are starting to feel some political pressure.

Impeachment just takes a majority of the House. Removal takes 2/3 of the Senate. I’m pretty sure he could be impeached. I definitely agree. Talk about it. Don’t take it off the table. And continue to make the case that Trump committed crimes worthy of impeachment. This isn’t just about Trump. This is about future Presidents who might see what Trump might get away with it and think they too can obstruct an investigation because they don’t like it, think it illegitimate, or otherwise don’t like it. That is what made Greenwald’s take so sick. Greenwald basically said that the President had a right to obstruct because he didn’t like the investigation and think it was legitimate. Gee Glenn, what President likes being investigated?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:26:19am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

I hadn’t heard of that band before. That is an interesting song.

Say Wha?!?!?! You never heard Conquistador?

Procol Harum - Conquistador // Denmark - 2006

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:32:10am

re: #115 Eric The Fruit Bat

Say Wha?!?!?! You never heard Conquistador?

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Video

Or this one:
(Music starts at 1:15)

Procol Harum – A Whiter Shade of Pale & Kaleidoscope, 1968

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:33:38am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

Quit educating me!

I hadn’t heard of that band before. That is an interesting song.

oh my. you hadn’t heard of procol harum? Go to Itunes, start with Whiter Side of Pale, and then listen to everything they produced through Exotic Birds.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:34:27am

We are not going to discuss Procol Harum without this song.

Procol Harum - A Salty Dog

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:36:04am

re: #70 William Lewis

the really important thing was that the next generation has picked it up. My 17 year old son has been playing for 3 ~ 4 years and loves to be DM. The other important part was the 5th edition rules - much freaking better than the disaster that was the 4th and cleaner than the 3.5 edition that Pathfinder uses as it’s base. Me? Arcane Thief…

My father was literally a 25th level Cleric. Immune to pretty much any kind of poisoning from alcohol or cooking, and someone spiritually that Satan knew not to fuck with.

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:39:35am

re: #118 ObserverArt

We are not going to discuss Procol Harum without this song.

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Or this one. Remember, this band is where Robin Trower came from…

Procol Harum - Simple Sister (HQ)

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:39:56am

To show the range of Procol Harum, this also needs to be considered. Robin Trower on the hot 6 string licks.

PROCOL HARUM - Whiskey Train

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:43:40am

re: #121 ObserverArt

To show the range of Procol Harum, this also needs to be considered. Robin Trower on the hot 6 string licks.

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I used to play that one back in high school. Cool tune.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:44:44am

Morning Lizardim. Happy Saturday from the wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:46:26am

re: #123 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wet and very rainy in Philly. :(

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:46:44am

re: #123 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. Happy Saturday from the wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Impeachment discussion and good tunes being served.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:47:08am

re: #123 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Good evening from China. Pretty chill today here. Had a great hotpot lunch with friends and did exciting stuff like laundry and dishes — and watched Captain Marvel.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:47:43am

re: #126 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Good evening from China. Pretty chill today here. Had a great hotpot lunch with friends and did exciting stuff like laundry and dishes — and watched Captain Marvel.

I still want to see that. Mrs. Fish and I have tickets to Avengers: Endgame next Friday night.

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:48:09am

Speaking of playing - I did a gig with my band last night and didn’t get to bed until about 2:00 AM. I got a call on Thursday from a friend, asking me if I could sub in for his guitar player for an afternoon gig at a local Harley dealer, so I’m doing that from 1 - 3 today, weather permitting. Then after that, I’m doing a show with a third band tonight at a new club east of here, which will probably end with another late night.

And I’m expected to show up and do a family Easter dinner tomorrow. I can see my wife poking me in the ribs during dinner to keep me from completely falling out.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:49:52am

re: #127 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I still want to see that. Mrs. Fish and I have tickets to Avengers: Endgame next Friday night.

It was great, and had two teasers to Endgame during the post-credits. Brie Larsson gives a fine performance.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:50:28am

re: #124 PhillyPretzel

Wet and very rainy in Philly. :(

Same here on the west side of the state.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:51:03am

re: #130 Eventual Carrion

Same here on the west side of the state.

Up here in the wild north country, it is a sunny spring day. I may go do some work on Mrs. Fish’s land yacht for a while.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:51:47am

re: #122 makeitstop

I used to play that one back in high school. Cool tune.

I doubt he heard it and borrowed from it, but I sure hear a lot of Billy Gibbons tone and style in Whisky Train. It could almost be a ZZ Top piece.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:54:28am

re: #133 wrenchwench

I survived the 70s. This helped.

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Essential!

As was this…

Traffic - Glad

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:56:18am

re: #115 Eric The Fruit Bat

Say Wha?!?!?! You never heard Conquistador?

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Video

oh god, and the idiots trying to clap in time. god, i hated this. I once had to tell the audience “stop clapping, stop clapping please” when they did that. Pro tip: sometimes stuff that sounds like it’s in 4/4 isn’t in 4/4! :-)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:56:58am

re: #123 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. Happy Saturday from the wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Sunny, clear skies, 68 degrees here in Ostrava. Central Europe is nice today - or at least, this part of it.

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mmmirele  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:58:45am

re: #21 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in the state of Washington:

theguardian.com

JFC.

OK, I know more about this Genesis II church than I should, because, well, it hits on some of my other interests, like scams, quack treatments for autism, fake churches, and of course, Scientology. The founder of “Genesis II” church is Jim Humble, and like so many “new religion” leaders, he went through Scientology.

You can do the searching on Google, using MMS and autism and you’ll get scads and scads of stories where people feed this INDUSTRIAL BLEACH to their children as an “autism cure.” Parents are deliberately harming their children because, as with vaccinations, they can’t bring themselves to listen to authorities and instead listen to quacks like Humble. It infuriates me.

Here, for example, is a story about a mom who was arrested for giving her daughter MMS. It also has a rundown of a number of similar stories:

washingtonpost.com

Blergh, gah, I HATE this.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:59:51am
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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:03:03am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:07:23am

re: #139 Teukka

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He uses a lot of phrases that do.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:08:21am

We had a little rain on Wednesday, then by noon Thursday it dried out enough to be fire season again. April brings windy afternoons and glorious mornings, so long as all sparks are extinguished.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:10:32am

re: #137 mmmirele

GAHHHHHHH

Autism is NOT A DISEASE. It doesn’t need to be “cured”. FUCK these people with a rusty spork. We are NOT BROKEN.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:10:40am

re: #139 Teukka

Yesterday it took him nine hours to finish his third tweet about the Mueller Report, and when he did he explicitly said he wanted to retaliate against those who have been investigating him.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:14:35am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:15:57am

re: #144 darthstar

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Not to mention, Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Jared. The Donald would probably catch on fire from his rage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:17:56am

re: #113 ObserverArt

That is why the Democrats best bet would be to keep digging and every day exposing more and more of his corruption and keep mentioning impeachment. Get America talking more and more and wear down any opposition.

Next week is going to be telling. If more actual Republican congress members start talking about Trump negatively it will mean they have stopped down playing the Mueller report and actually are starting to feel some political pressure.

The point is to make it look as if the GOP is complicit in that it allows DT to remain in office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:18:50am

re: #118 ObserverArt

We are not going to discuss Procol Harum without this song.

Way too many favorite Procol Harum songs for me to discuss here, but A Salty Dog is in the top dozen or so…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:24:10am

re: #133 wrenchwench

I survived the 70s. This helped.

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A lot!! Thank you!

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allegro  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:30:36am

re: #129 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It was great, and had two teasers to Endgame during the post-credits. Brie Larsson gives a fine performance.

Yes, she does. The woman is fierce.

My fondest memory from it: Fury + Goose = Everything

Here’s a question I’ve been debating with a friend: If you were recommending the order of watching all the MCU movies, where would you put Captain Marvel? Would it be in the timeline after Captain America or keep it for after Infinity Wars? Strong case can be made for either.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:46:45am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

A lot!! Thank you!

There’s a fabulous snake-on-a-roof upthread.

You’re welcome.

re: #89 wrenchwench

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:48:11am

re: #149 allegro

Yes, she does. The woman is fierce.

My fondest memory from it: Fury + Goose = Everything

Here’s a question I’ve been debating with a friend: If you were recommending the order of watching all the MCU movies, where would you put Captain Marvel? Would it be in the timeline after Captain America or keep it for after Infinity Wars? Strong case can be made for either.

I haven’t watched any of them, but if I do… it would be in the order in which they were released.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:48:34am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

A lot!! Thank you!

Snakes on an inclined plane!

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:53:34am

re: #129 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It was great, and had two teasers to Endgame during the post-credits. Brie Larsson gives a fine performance.

This middle teaser is really the beginning of Endgame, in the same way that the teaser in Thor: Ragnarok was the beginning of Infinity War.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:55:02am

re: #149 allegro

Yes, she does. The woman is fierce.

My fondest memory from it: Fury + Goose = Everything

Here’s a question I’ve been debating with a friend: If you were recommending the order of watching all the MCU movies, where would you put Captain Marvel? Would it be in the timeline after Captain America or keep it for after Infinity Wars? Strong case can be made for either.

I could go either way, but this way keeps you from wondering where she was during Avengers 1 and 2. You’re more like the rest of the Avengers who didn’t know she existed.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:55:49am

Plus it makes the eye patch even funnier.

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allegro  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:07:12am

re: #154 Belafon

I could go either way, but this way keeps you from wondering where she was during Avengers 1 and 2. You’re more like the rest of the Avengers who didn’t know she existed.

Where she was is pretty much answered by her taking off for far-reaches of the galaxy to find a home for the Skrulls. But yeah, it would make ya wonder why she wasn’t brought back earlier since we know Fury had the means. Excellent point. TY mucho. (There’s a reason I’m debating this.)

My biggest reason for keeping it for after Infinity Wars is because of Fury. It would take so much of the fun out of his earlier story and character. It would also diminish his mystery in the later (MCU universe later) movies.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:20:41am

re: #133 wrenchwench

I survived the 70s. This helped.

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Love that song. Got to see a great cover of it once by a local SF jam band, ALO…they did it justice.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:43:10am

re: #121 ObserverArt

Robin Trower

This is probably his definitive work:

Bridge of Sighs (2007 Remaster)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:53:02am

re: #158 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is probably his definitive work:

Bridge of Sighs

I would say this, but that is my taste;

Procol Harum - Song for a dreamer

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:57:33am

Given what the Mueller probe has uncovered, perhaps it’s time to start referring Sarah Sanders as “Washington Sarah”.

Of course, many folks won’t catch the “Tokyo Rose” tie-in, but that’s their problem.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:58:19am

In other news, one of our neighbors gives us avocados from a variety that grows on his parent’s farm down in the imperial valley - small, thin skinned, black things that are super delicious. We tried sprouting pits from five of them. Two actually got roots enough that I decided to stick them in pots and see what happened. One of those refused to die and now has a sprout with actual leaves & shit.

That’s pretty fuckin’ awesome.

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garzooma  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:00:03am

re: #160 Eric The Fruit Bat

Given what the Mueller probe has uncovered, perhaps it’s time to start referring Sarah Sanders as “Washington Sarah”.

Of course, many folks won’t catch the “Tokyo Rose” tie-in, but that’s their problem.

How about “Bagdad Sarah”?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:00:34am

Quote from a Columbine survivor re: Sandy Hook

“I’m also still pretty jaded. When I talked to the teachers from Sandy Hook, and they said, “Do you think this is going to make a difference?” I said, “Nope. It’s not. The NRA is really powerful, and it’s not going to make a dent.”

Sadly, she was right. Even a bunch of dead first graders was not enough to make us seriously rethink our gun laws.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:02:45am

re: #162 garzooma

How about “Bagdad Sarah”?

Now that I think about it, perhaps “White House Sarah” is more appropriate.

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Old Liberal  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:08:40am

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

Quote from a Columbine survivor re: Sandy Hook

“I’m also still pretty jaded. When I talked to the teachers from Sandy Hook, and they said, “Do you think this is going to make a difference?” I said, “Nope. It’s not. The NRA is really powerful, and it’s not going to make a dent.”

Sadly, she was right. Even a bunch of dead first graders was not enough to make us seriously rethink our gun laws.

I contend that if pictures of the carnage were shown the horror would overcome the asshole NRA. Who can forget the photo of the fireman carrying little Bayley’s dead body in his arms after the OKC bombing? People cry privacy but I think that was an idea promulgated by those who simply want to hide the horror. Bush wouldn’t allow caskets to be filmed out of “respect”. Bullshit it was to sanitize and propagandize. Until people see the actual horror it’s an abstract idea. I remember how MADD brought smashed bloody cars to show what drunk drivers destroy.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:08:51am

re: #149 allegro

Yes, she does. The woman is fierce.

My fondest memory from it: Fury + Goose = Everything

Here’s a question I’ve been debating with a friend: If you were recommending the order of watching all the MCU movies, where would you put Captain Marvel? Would it be in the timeline after Captain America or keep it for after Infinity Wars? Strong case can be made for either.

I hadn’t thought about it till you mentioned it. Coming after Captain America makes sense, as it fits with the chronology of events. But she’s out of the picture (so to speak) in the MCU until Endgame, so that’s a long wait.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:09:23am

re: #165 Old Liberal

For what it’s worth, I agree 100%.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:09:59am

re: #164 Eric The Fruit Bat

Now that I think about it, perhaps “White House Sarah” is more appropriate.

She already goes by White Supremacist Sarah.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:15:28am

re: #160 Eric The Fruit Bat

Given what the Mueller probe has uncovered, perhaps it’s time to start referring Sarah Sanders as “Washington Sarah”.

Of course, many folks won’t catch the “Tokyo Rose” tie-in, but that’s their problem.

We have all watched her defend brazen lies with a straight face, why do we need a Mueller Report? It will just bounce off her supporters.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:16:36am

re: #168 darthstar

She already goes by White Supremacist Sarah.

I can see that as a vector, but it isn’t enough, as far as I can tell.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:17:32am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have all watched her defend brazen lies with a straight face, why do we need a Mueller Report? It will just bounce off her supporters.

Sadly, it seems that this is where we are headed.

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allegro  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:20:14am

re: #166 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I hadn’t thought about it till you mentioned it. Coming after Captain America makes sense, as it fits with the chronology of events. But she’s out of the picture (so to speak) in the MCU until Endgame, so that’s a long wait.

The reason I’m debating this is because we’re planning a summer MCU movie fest. A neighbor has a projector and perfect spot on the side of his rig that is an ideal “screen.” I have all of the MCU movies that have been released thus far to DVD (and will add as the new ones become available). Gonna be way fun.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:20:34am

re: #165 Old Liberal

I contend that if pictures of the carnage were shown the horror would overcome the asshole NRA. Who can forget the photo of the fireman carrying little Bayley’s dead body in his arms after the OKC bombing? People cry privacy but I think that was an idea promulgated by those who simply want to hide the horror. Bush wouldn’t allow caskets to be filmed out of “respect”. Bullshit it was to sanitize and propagandize. Until people see the actual horror it’s an abstract idea. I remember how MADD brought smashed bloody cars to show what drunk drivers destroy.

It’s a controversial idea, but I agree with it.

If people could’ve seen the true horror of the Sandy Hook Massacre, the crime scene photos, attitudes might change. Horrific, to be sure, but when people can see the actual consequences, they demand action be taken.

Also, it would shut the conspiracy theorists right the fuck up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:27:18am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

It’s a controversial idea, but I agree with it.

If people could’ve seen the true horror of the Sandy Hook Massacre, the crime scene photos, attitudes might change. Horrific, to be sure, but when people can see the actual consequences, they demand action be taken.

Also, it would shut the conspiracy theorists right the fuck up.

Why would they shut up? Either it was
(a) a false flag perpetrated by some crazed anti-gun fanatic
(b) it was film orchestrated in Hollywood — crisis actors with makeup
(c) who cares — my right to a gun overrides the safety of others. You cannot deprive me of my Constitutional rights just because some innocent children are slaughtered.

You cannot underestimate how delusional or depraved these NRA gun supporters are.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:29:31am

Aaaand the first wildfire of the season…
Råssa in Bollebygd, West Gothia (Västergötland).
2 hectare fire, at time of writing not under control, nearby buildings threatened.
9 units at the site fighting the fire.

aftonbladet.se
expressen.se

GloBULL Warrmink is ay lieBULLar conspiraceh to tejk orr freedumbs! 11tgy!!!!11

Did I mention SGU (Swedish equivalent of USGS) has warned that ground water levels will be low this summer as well?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:34:53am

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

Why would they shut up? Either it was
(a) a false flag perpetrated by some crazed anti-gun fanatic
(b) it was film orchestrated in Hollywood — crisis actors with makeup
(c) who cares — my right to a gun overrides the safety of others. You cannot deprive me of my Constitutional rights just because some innocent children are slaughtered.

You cannot underestimate how delusional or depraved these NRA gun supporters are.

Hate to say it, but you’re likely right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:38:55am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

It’s a controversial idea, but I agree with it.

If people could’ve seen the true horror of the Sandy Hook Massacre, the crime scene photos, attitudes might change. Horrific, to be sure, but when people can see the actual consequences, they demand action be taken.

Also, it would shut the conspiracy theorists right the fuck up.

Those were dummies and fake Hollywood blood! STAGED!!

EDIT: I see HD beat me to it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:40:24am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

It’s a controversial idea, but I agree with it.

If people could’ve seen the true horror of the Sandy Hook Massacre, the crime scene photos, attitudes might change. Horrific, to be sure, but when people can see the actual consequences, they demand action be taken.

Also, it would shut the conspiracy theorists right the fuck up.

Dunno, we have seen horrific scenes of violence and little changed, and I don’t limit this to gun law. How much have laws that limit or punish excess force by police changed despite astonishing eye witness video? I suspect our character, our nature means this exposure numbs us rather than lasting as a call to action. I wish it were that easy…

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:41:23am

The NRA is losing members and money from everything I hear, and the pressure for gun reform is increasing. We’re moving in the right direction — much too slowly.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:43:33am

re: #176 Dr Lizardo

Hate to say it, but you’re likely right.

What about a strategy of including suicide in each discussion about guns? The availability of guns is one of the greatest dangers to anybody who ponders it. It can be very difficult to talk about around those already traumatized by guns, because of the power of inadvertent suggestion. Dangerous to do, and dangerous to NOT do.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:45:10am

re: #179 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

The NRA is losing members and money from everything I hear, and the pressure for gun reform is increasing. We’re moving in the right direction — much too slowly.

They might also end up losing their tax-exempt status.

salon.com

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:45:45am

re: #178 Unshaken Defiance

Dunno, we have seen horrific scenes of violence and little changed, and I don’t limit this to gun law. How much have laws that limit or punish excess force by police changed despite astonishing eye witness video? I suspect our character, our nature means this exposure numbs us rather than lasting as a call to action. I wish it were that easy…

Cultural change is possible, and necessary

It is in our nature to make cultural change..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:46:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:47:30am

re: #180 wrenchwench

What about a strategy of including suicide in each discussion about guns? The availability of guns is one of the greatest dangers to anybody who ponders it. It can be very difficult to talk about around those already traumatized by guns, because of the power of inadvertent suggestion. Dangerous to do, and dangerous to NOT do.

Good point. Firearms-related suicides are often ignored in the overall discussion of gun violence. It gets lost, probably because it just really doesn’t grab the headlines like a mass shooting incident (unless it’s a suicide by a celebrity or other notable individual, such as Kurt Cobain).

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allegro  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:48:51am

re: #182 wrenchwench

Cultural change is possible, and necessary

It is in our nature to make cultural change..

And those who are unwilling to adapt, who choose willful ignorance and bloodshed are always going to be with us. Fuck ‘em and work around.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:49:06am

re: #164 Eric The Fruit Bat

Now that I think about it, perhaps “White House Sarah” is more appropriate.

“Lieabee”

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:53:26am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

My page is finally up:

20 Years Later: Reflecting on Columbine

What timing!

I read your page before your comment. It’s good.

{{{Eclectic Cyborg}}}

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Brian J.  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:54:04am

re: #1 Chrysicat

CL’d perfectly:

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One of the two reasons impeachment won’t happen: the Mueller Report implicates Берни Сандерс at least as much as it does Donnie-Boy, and he’d be much easier to indict. The Democrats have been intensely protective of the junior senator from Vermont. That’s not about to stop.

That leads into reason #2: Today’s Congressional Democrats want to be a new, cool, hip left-wing, socialist (“Social Democratic” in mixed company) party. That means cutting themselves off from their prior history and rationalizing previous failures as the result of insufficient faith in their new orthodoxy. Hillary? A neoliberal who deserved to lose even if she cheated against Берни by winning more states and votes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:00:13am

re: #161 darthstar

In other news, one of our neighbors gives us avocados from a variety that grows on his parent’s farm down in the imperial valley - small, thin skinned, black things that are super delicious. We tried sprouting pits from five of them. Two actually got roots enough that I decided to stick them in pots and see what happened. One of those refused to die and now has a sprout with actual leaves & shit.

That’s pretty fuckin’ awesome.

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Grandma had a beautiful avocado tree in her yard. Remember how sweet the blooms smelled and then it came time to pick and let them ripen.

Nothing like fresh avocados!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:00:22am

re: #188 Brian J.

Excuse me, what planet have you been living on? Sounds even less pleasant than this one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:01:21am

re: #162 garzooma

How about “Bagdad Sarah”?

I prefer Bullshitter Hucky Boo Boo!

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:03:26am

re: #182 wrenchwench

Cultural change is possible, and necessary

It is in our nature to make cultural change..

It is and the lesson here (maybe, at least imho) is the wrong direction is the easy, low friction direction. Like breaking glass is easy but making stained glass art is hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:03:56am

moron keeps ranting nonsense

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:05:09am

In wrestling parlance, Trump is doing his best to get the Barr summary over, but the fans aren’t having it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:05:30am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron keeps ranting nonsense

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It’s pretty amazing that millions of people listen to this moron and think “yeah he’s right.”

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:06:19am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have all watched her defend brazen lies with a straight face, why do we need a Mueller Report? It will just bounce off her supporters.

even when she uses the ‘it was a slip of the tongue’ absurd defense she does not believe that scrupulous accuracy is the foundation of of her job

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:06:28am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

In wrestling parlance, Trump is doing his best to get the Barr summary over, but the fans aren’t having it.

It won’t be long until he’s bitching at Barr if not already. And you know what, I hope Barr becomes miserable. He chose to serve this child.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:09:47am

The Mueller Report Demands an Impeachment Inquiry (via politicalwire.com)

Lawfare: “The Mueller Report describes, in excruciating detail and with relatively few redactions, a candidate and a campaign aware of the existence of a plot by a hostile foreign government to criminally interfere in the U.S. election for the purpose of supporting that candidate’s side. It describes a candidate and a campaign who welcomed the efforts and delighted in the assistance. It describes a candidate and a campaign who brazenly and serially lied to the American people about the existence of the foreign conspiracy and their contacts with it. And yet, it does not find evidence to support a charge of criminal conspiracy, which requires not just a shared purpose but a meeting of the minds.”

“Here is the other bottom line: The Mueller Report describes a president who, on numerous occasions, engaged in conduct calculated to hinder a federal investigation. It finds ample evidence that at least a portion of that conduct met all of the statutory elements of criminal obstruction of justice. In some of the instances in which all of the statutory elements of obstruction are met, the report finds no persuasive constitutional or factual defenses. And yet, it declines to render a judgment on whether the president has committed a crime.”

the whole article is very good and spot on (imo)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:10:01am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

My page is finally up:

20 Years Later: Reflecting on Columbine

A very powerful statement. Thank you for sharing this.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:13:34am

re: #192 Unshaken Defiance

It is and the lesson here (maybe, at least imho) is the wrong direction is the easy, low friction direction. Like breaking glass is easy but making stained glass art is hard.

Yes. It takes work. When I said, ‘It’s in our nature’, I didn’t necessarily mean it comes naturally. But it is also in our natures to work hard to improve our circumstances.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:14:34am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

My page is finally up:

20 Years Later: Reflecting on Columbine

Props. Excellent read.

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Jay C  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:16:35am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

It’s pretty amazing that millions of people listen to this moron and think “yeah he’s right.”

What I find somewhat puzzling* is that no one (in media or government, that is) ever challenges this twitter-barrage of Trumpshit with what I think is the most obvious rejoinder: i.e., Donald Trump rarely, if ever, tells the truth in public, what should all these self-serving protestations of COMPLETE EXONERATION!!1!!11! be given any more credibility than anything else he spouts off about (i.e. none)?

Trump’s general level of credibility is - outside of his obsessive and deluded “base” - lower than any other President I can recall: except maybe Vietnam-era LBJ. I think the public ought to be reminded of this. Loudly and frequently.

*Not really, but the answer is pretty depressing.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:16:41am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

It won’t be long until he’s bitching at Barr if not already. And you know what, I hope Barr becomes miserable. He chose to serve this child.

i started musing about that on thursday
barr had one job. and it looks like it didnt work
trump’s gotta be pissed at him, and you know how that goes

and barr’s not there for really anything else. and you know how that goes too

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:18:23am

re: #203 Man, DangerMan

i started musing about that on thursday
barr had one job. and it looks like it didnt work
trump’s gotta be pissed at him, and you know how that goes

and barr’s not there for really anything else. and you know how that goes too

Yeah we’re going to have an acting AG again soon.

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piratedan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:20:04am

re: #188 Brian J.

thank you for that utterly bullshit take, can I have that 15 seconds of my life back please?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:20:37am

re: #202 Jay C

What I find somewhat puzzling* is that no one (in media or government, that is) ever challenges this twitter-barrage of Trumpshit with what I think is the most obvious rejoinder: i.e., Donald Trump rarely, if ever, tells the truth in public, what should all these self-serving protestations of COMPLETE EXONERATION!!1!!11! be given any more credibility than anything else he spouts off about (i.e. none)?

Trump’s general level of credibility is - outside of his obsessive and deluded “base” - lower than any other President I can recall: except maybe Vietnam-era LBJ. I think the public ought to be reminded of this. Loudly and frequently.

*Not really, but the answer is pretty depressing.

What I find amazing is he’s so obviously uninterested in being President for all Americans. He legit views half of us as his enemies. And that’s not a vibe I got from the Bush administration. Yeah they were very dismissive towards critics but I don’t think W viewed us as adversaries.

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KGxvi  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:21:19am

re: #160 Eric The Fruit Bat

Given what the Mueller probe has uncovered, perhaps it’s time to start referring Sarah Sanders as “Washington Sarah”.

Of course, many folks won’t catch the “Tokyo Rose” tie-in, but that’s their problem.

Gotta go with something like Baghdad Bob. Just not sure what would work

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:21:25am

re: #205 piratedan

thank you for that utterly bullshit take, can I have that 15 seconds of my life back please?

Ah, our favorite comrade has come back to deliver his patented hot takes.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:22:03am

have ya seen this:

North Korea demands removal of US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo from talks

mikey’s claiming he’s ‘still in charge’

also Choe Son Hui (NK First Vice Foreign Minister) said Bolton “should at least have understood about what kinds of substantive communications are made between the top leaders concerning the third round of summit before he had ever opened his mouth.”

your foreign policy at work

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:22:38am

re: #188 Brian J.

I don’t share your view. The Democratic Party might be delighted to rid itself of Bernie, though unfortunately the current Vermont governor is a Republican. I am certainly planning on using anything Mueller provides to challenge my Bernie-loving friends/family.

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KGxvi  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:24:05am

re: #209 Man, DangerMan

I can’t decide if this is “we are just fucking with these guys because we can”, “we can’t get one over on this guy like we can Trump”, or “we already got what we wanted, fuck off”

May well be a combination of all three

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:25:56am

re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ah, our favorite comrade has come back to deliver his patented hot takes.

and blame the freshmen congresswomen…”women” being the operative word

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:27:21am
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Brian J.  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:28:01am

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t share your view. The Democratic Party might be delighted to rid itself of Bernie, though unfortunately the current Vermont governor is a Republican. I am certainly planning on using anything Mueller provides to challenge my Bernie-loving friends/family.

That’s just it. You might want to get rid of Bernie, but the Party sees him as the future. That’s why they let a 29-year-old bartender who claims to be his protegee dictate the House’s agenda this winter and spring.

Impeachment can only go wrong anyway. If it hurts the Republicans, McConnell will have the ability to simply dismiss the trial at any time by majority vote; if it helps them, McConnell will gladly let the Democrats keep unwinding their intestines on a reel.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:28:09am

re: #202 Jay C

What I find somewhat puzzling* is that no one (in media or government, that is) ever challenges this twitter-barrage of Trumpshit with what I think is the most obvious rejoinder: i.e., Donald Trump rarely, if ever, tells the truth in public, what should all these self-serving protestations of COMPLETE EXONERATION!!1!!11! be given any more credibility than anything else he spouts off about (i.e. none)?

Trump’s general level of credibility is - outside of his obsessive and deluded “base” - lower than any other President I can recall: except maybe Vietnam-era LBJ. I think the public ought to be reminded of this. Loudly and frequently.

*Not really, but the answer is pretty depressing.

i would add that what i find (not) amazing either is that for all the people he asked to break the law, while none of them did, ZERO of them did anything about it; notified anyone else, called the FBI, quit. McGhan should have quit on the spot.

everybody in his orbit - his campaign team, his inaugural team, everyone who’s been in the admin, PLUS the media, his employees, members of all the clubs he owns, ALL of them latch on for what they think they can get out of knowing him. a job, a paycheck, a grift, access, whatever. there is no integrity to be found.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:29:53am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:29:56am

re: #214 Brian J.

Cool story, bro. Now pull the other one.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:30:12am

re: #213 jaunte

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He’s so fucking thin skinned.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:30:51am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

What I find amazing is he’s so obviously uninterested in being President for all Americans. He legit views half of us as his enemies. And that’s not a vibe I got from the Bush administration. Yeah they were very dismissive towards critics but I don’t think W viewed us as adversaries.

i think he really doesnt want to be president at all.

as to your first sentence, he sent out an email blast last week that unfortunately i cant track down. it actually said something close to “it’s not the liberal’s america it’s your america”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:30:52am

“29-year-old bartender”

jfc…get a better insult,asshole

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:31:44am

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Resentment is his super-power. And the reason people voted for him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:31:49am

A friend on FB posted this yesterday.

Ok, so our President is a lying pig who didn’t collude with the Russians to steal the election and didn’t obstruct justice because his underlings wouldn’t follow his direction to do so. Can we move on?

I find it an amazing argument, that the President is a lying pig, who didn’t obstruct justice even though he ordered justice to be obstructed, because his underlings didn’t do as he ordered, and so we should ‘move on’.

Our President has criminal impulses, and give criminal orders, but we can trust that they won’t be carried out, because unelected staff and cabinet members - most or all of whom have resigned or been fired - will simply not carry out his orders? Really?

This is like arguing that, even though you were TRYING to hire someone to kill your spouse, because it turned out to be a cop who didn’t actually KILL your spouse, you didn’t commit a crime. It’s an extraordinary piece of normalizing criminal behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:32:21am

re: #211 KGxvi

I can’t decide if this is “we are just fucking with these guys because we can”, “we can’t get one over on this guy like we can Trump”, or “we already got what we wanted, fuck off”

May well be a combination of all three

Not sure but Trump is still enamored with Kim. Pompeo doesn’t seem to share that but that may be because Kim is an atheist Korean Juche.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:32:36am

re: #211 KGxvi

I can’t decide if this is “we are just fucking with these guys because we can”, “we can’t get one over on this guy like we can Trump”, or “we already got what we wanted, fuck off”

May well be a combination of all three

1&3 and maybe just NK being NK. definitely not #2

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:32:55am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

“29-year-old bartender”

jfc…get a better insult,asshole

I hope that every bartender across the nation, from Fresno to St Louis to Dover, Delaware takes offense at that attitude towards hard-working people.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:33:08am

re: #221 jaunte

Resentment is his super-power. And the reason people voted for him.

Yep.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:34:16am

re: #214 Brian J.

That’s just it. You might want to get rid of Bernie, but the Party sees him as the future. That’s why they let a 29-year-old bartender who claims to be his protegee dictate the House’s agenda this winter and spring.

Impeachment can only go wrong anyway. If it hurts the Republicans, McConnell will have the ability to simply dismiss the trial at any time by majority vote; if it helps them, McConnell will gladly let the Democrats keep unwinding their intestines on a reel.

this is facile and asinine
shoo

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Teddy's Person  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:34:21am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:35:09am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hope that every bartender across the nation, from Fresno to St Louis to Dover, Delaware takes offense at that attitude towards hard-working people.

hard work is for little people…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:35:34am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

hard work is for little people…

No, not quite right. Hard work is for Those People.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:35:54am

re: #230 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No, not quite right. Hard work is for Those People.

same thing, really

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:36:09am

re: #188 Brian J.

One of the two reasons impeachment won’t happen: the Mueller Report implicates Берни Сандерс at least as much as it does Donnie-Boy, and he’d be much easier to indict. The Democrats have been intensely protective of the junior senator from Vermont. That’s not about to stop.

That leads into reason #2: Today’s Congressional Democrats want to be a new, cool, hip left-wing, socialist (“Social Democratic” in mixed company) party. That means cutting themselves off from their prior history and rationalizing previous failures as the result of insufficient faith in their new orthodoxy. Hillary? A neoliberal who deserved to lose even if she cheated against Берни by winning more states and votes.

Wut? Not getting any of this.
The standard for criminal behavior or impeachment is not by comparison, if someone else was worse. The primary is coming, not a moment to predict protective unity from the Dems, as if that’s a good idea at any time…

Reason 2? The Dems need to move to what we need, a more progressive agenda. Goes back to the ACA fight, minimum wages etc. That means attaching themselves to contemporary reality not cutting off anything. Except the far lefties maybe, the Berners, the fringe destructive my way or burn the world greens. BTW needing to finish off with a Hilary kicker just gives away the real game here.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:38:36am

re: #218 HappyWarrior

He’s so fucking thin skinned.

i wonder if he thought that the respect he so craved and never got just automatically came with winning the job

- i still dont believe he ever wanted to win, just that now he is incredulous that every single one of us hasnt fallen over fawning on him because he’s ‘the president’

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:39:26am

re: #233 Man, DangerMan

i wonder if he thought that the respect he so craved and never got just automatically came with winning the job

- i still dont believe he ever wanted to win, just that now he is incredulous that every single one of us hasnt fallen over fawning on him because he’s ‘the president’

Agreed

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:39:46am

If only there’d been some way we could have gotten the same benefits as the countries who joined the TPP…

BTW, this is yet another example of how stupid Trump is - he insists on bilateral trade negotiations, because he thinks it gives him the whiphand, but there’s no reason why trading blocs can’t cut deals with each other that are better than we get, and also no reason why our trading partners shouldn’t just tell us to deal with the bloc, or go pound sand.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:40:19am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

What I find amazing is he’s so obviously uninterested in being President for all Americans. He legit views half of us as his enemies. And that’s not a vibe I got from the Bush administration. Yeah they were very dismissive towards critics but I don’t think W viewed us as adversaries.

I don’t think he is even president to his base. They exist to put and keep him in office. He certainly doesn’t care about the former moderate Republican now never-Trumpers.

Seems all he cares about is enriching himself and that happens to be in the same line of thinking as the power-people of the GOP so they go along. The money is good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:40:39am

I really fail to see what the problem is with the label “progressive”.

Bernie may attempt to wear that mantle, but he is so far removed from it, it’s ridiculous.

Also, he is not a Democrat and the party is not embracing him. (Any of his progressive ideas were already presented by real Democrats long before he started his grift.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:42:28am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

I really fail to see what the problem is with the label “progressive”.

Bernie may attempt to wear that mantle, but he is so far removed from it, it’s ridiculous.

Also, he is not a Democrat and the party is not embracing him. (Any of his progressive ideas were already presented by real Democrats long before he started his grift.)

“Progressive” only became an epithet because conservatives equated it with the term “liberal” and used it in an insulting fashion. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re not at least partially progressive, you’re completely REgressive, and that IS meant as an insult. We should be looking forward to the future, not wishing for the return of the past.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:42:43am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

“29-year-old bartender”

jfc…get a better insult,asshole

Wasn’t it John Bonner that bragged about sweeping floors at his dad or grandpa bar? Gave him work ethic or some such, showed how he pulled himself up by his bootstraps. But the mental midgets latch onto this bartender thing like it proves she is a low life or something, unfit for the position she holds. Fucking hypocritical mental midgets.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:44:49am

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

A friend on FB posted this yesterday.

I find it an amazing argument, that the President is a lying pig, who didn’t obstruct justice even though he ordered justice to be obstructed, because his underlings didn’t do as he ordered, and so we should ‘move on’.

Our President has criminal impulses, and give criminal orders, but we can trust that they won’t be carried out, because unelected staff and cabinet members - most or all of whom have resigned or been fired - will simply not carry out his orders? Really?

This is like arguing that, even though you were TRYING to hire someone to kill your spouse, because it turned out to be a cop who didn’t actually KILL your spouse, you didn’t commit a crime. It’s an extraordinary piece of normalizing criminal behavior.

hell, that statement isnt even accurate. the fact that he wasnt charged (yet) doesnt mean he didnt do it. mueller left it for congress to investigate further and determine what should happen next. that’s what moving on looks like.

and yes, as i understand it (not a lawyer), obstruction doesnt require an underlying crime.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:45:28am

re: #214 Brian J.

That’s just it. You might want to get rid of Bernie, but the Party sees him as the future. That’s why they let a 29-year-old bartender who claims to be his protegee dictate the House’s agenda this winter and spring.

Impeachment can only go wrong anyway. If it hurts the Republicans, McConnell will have the ability to simply dismiss the trial at any time by majority vote; if it helps them, McConnell will gladly let the Democrats keep unwinding their intestines on a reel.

AOC may have originally been inspired by Bernie but I doubt she retains the same relationship. She is the 21st Century version of the 1987 Nancy Pelosi and she is learning from the master — i.e. Nancy not Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:45:40am

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

Wasn’t it John Bonner that bragged about sweeping floors at his dad or grandpa bar? Gave him work ethic or some such, showed how he pulled himself up by his bootstraps. But the mental midgets latch onto this bartender thing like it proves she is a low life or something, unfit for the position she holds. Fucking hypocritical mental midgets.

Yes. With AOC, I think it’s resentment since she didn’t rise in the typical manner. She’s not someone who rose due to knowing the right people and having the right parents like I dunno Ivanka Trump and Meaghan McCain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:45:45am

re: #238 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Progressive” only became an epithet because conservatives equated it with the term “liberal” and used it in an insulting fashion. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re not at least partially progressive, you’re completely REgressive, and that IS meant as an insult. We should be looking forward to the future, not wishing for the return of the past.

and, I suppose, being able to readily attach it to certain women makes it a win-win for the ratfuckers

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:46:02am

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

Wasn’t it John Bonner that bragged about sweeping floors at his dad or grandpa bar? Gave him work ethic or some such, showed how he pulled himself up by his bootstraps. But the mental midgets latch onto this bartender thing like it proves she is a low life or something, unfit for the position she holds. Fucking hypocritical mental midgets.

Boehner, yes

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:46:23am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

and, I suppose, being able to readily attach it to certain women makes it a win-win for the ratfuckers

We have a winner!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:47:04am

re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter

AOC may have originally been inspired by Bernie but I doubt she retains the same relationship. She is the 21st Century version of the 1987 Nancy Pelosi and she is learning from the master — i.e. Nancy not Bernie.

She hasn’t even endorsed him this time around I believe and nothing I’ve seen her suggests she blames HRC for being hacked. She supported Bernie three years ago. I don’t hold that against her.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:50:59am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

“29-year-old bartender”

jfc…get a better insult,asshole

‘29 year-old former bartender” who is now one of 435 people in the entire country of 330M who is a sitting member of the US house of representatives

435/330M is 0.00000131818 of the population

mar-a-grifto has more members than the house

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:51:01am

re: #238 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Progressive” only became an epithet because conservatives equated it with the term “liberal” and used it in an insulting fashion. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re not at least partially progressive, you’re completely REgressive, and that IS meant as an insult. We should be looking forward to the future, not wishing for the return of the past.

“Progressive” became an epithet because “liberal” and “socialist” have stopped working so they are trying to create a new term to persuade voters to reject Democrats.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:52:18am

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

Wasn’t it John Bonner that bragged about sweeping floors at his dad or grandpa bar? Gave him work ethic or some such, showed how he pulled himself up by his bootstraps. But the mental midgets latch onto this bartender thing like it proves she is a low life or something, unfit for the position she holds. Fucking hypocritical mental midgets.

And here I thought the real Democratic party is the party of bartenders.

Brian J. may not realize it, but his thinking is very similar to some of the Berners. It is his own form of purity.

Me, I just want to help make Trump gone and get control of all of congress, then we can talk about what the party is.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:53:45am

Pete Buttigieg won an essay contest in high school writing about his political hero: Bernie Sanders. I don’t see him as a slavish follower; I doubt AOC is either.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:55:03am

re: #249 ObserverArt

And here I thought the real Democratic party is the party of bartenders.

Brian J. may not realize it, but his thinking is very similar to some of the Berners. It is his own form of purity.

Me, I just want to help make Trump gone and get control of all of congress, then we can talk about what the party is.

It’s the same crap.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:55:35am

re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter

AOC may have originally been inspired by Bernie but I doubt she retains the same relationship. She is the 21st Century version of the 1987 Nancy Pelosi and she is learning from the master — i.e. Nancy not Bernie.

I think Alexandria can grow and change. She is young and she is intelligent. And she does represent a part of the Democratic party because the Democratic party has always been the party for everyone. Even bartenders and Brian J.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:55:57am

re: #250 Barefoot Grin

Pete Buttigieg won an essay contest in high school writing about his political hero: Bernie Sanders. I don’t see him as a slavish follower; I doubt AOC is either.

If AOC were, she’d already have endorsed him. She’s not trashing the Dems running. This is all guilt by association crap imo.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:57:14am

re: #188 Brian J.

When you sober up, come back and join the discussion.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:57:16am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Yes. With AOC, I think it’s resentment since she didn’t rise in the typical manner. She’s not someone who rose due to knowing the right people and having the right parents like I dunno Ivanka Trump and Meaghan McCain.

It’s a combination of misogyny and racism. But the GOP reacts that way to any Democrat that manages to gain the public’s attention. After all, the GOP have elected two presidents who acquired their nationwide fame as movie and/or television performers. Any Democrat who receives fame through mastery of the new media is a real threat to them.

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A Cranky One  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:57:58am

re: #214 Brian J.

That’s just it. You might want to get rid of Bernie, but the Party sees him as the future. That’s why they let a 29-year-old bartender

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:58:09am

re: #255 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a combination of misogyny and racism. But the GOP reacts that way to any Democrat that manages to gain the public’s attention. After all, the GOP have elected two presidents who acquired their nationwide fame as movie and/or television performers. Any Democrat who receives fame through mastery of the new media is a real threat to them.

Classism too imo. The GOP is the party of the already established not the upstarts.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:58:21am

re: #250 Barefoot Grin

Pete Buttigieg won an essay contest in high school writing about his political hero: Bernie Sanders. I don’t see him as a slavish follower; I doubt AOC is either.

i would normally have said who cares what they did in high school

then i remembered that they are both a lot closer to their high school days than many of us are

not a dig. i am merely recognizing my age and their youth at the same time

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:59:44am

re: #256 A Cranky One

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As someone who worked as a barmaid/bartender to pay my way through my first two years of college, all I have to say is:

ALL THE FUCKING UPDINGS FOR YOU!!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:59:57am

re: #258 Man, DangerMan

i would normally have said who cares what they did in high school

then i remembered that they are both a lot closer to their high school days than many of us are

not a dig. i am merely recognizing my age and their youth at the same time

AOC isn’t even eligible to run for Senate yet. I like her. I’m not ready to pronounce her a future Speaker but she, Pete, & others I think have a bright future. Bernie doesn’t. Bernie is old news.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:00:29pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

As someone who worked as a barmaid/bartender to pay my way through my first two years of college, all I have to say is:

ALL THE FUCKING UPDINGS FOR YOU!!!

My parents met waiting tables and my godfather bartended for a long time.

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garzooma  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:01:24pm

re: #207 KGxvi

Gotta go with something like Baghdad Bob. Just not sure what would work

Switch targets: “Bagdad Bill”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:01:26pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

My parents met waiting tables and my godfather bartended for a long time.

My dad worked for a moving company before landing his first engineering gig.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:02:51pm

Bartender, coal miner, one of those little people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:03:55pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

My parents met waiting tables and my godfather bartended for a long time.

re: #263 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad worked for a moving company before landing his first engineering gig.

It would appear that Brian has never had to actually work for a living.
Otherwise he would never make comments like he does.

Or it’s just that he hates women/POC.

Or maybe it’s both.

In any event, it’s not a good look and it reveals who Brian really is.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:04:11pm

re: #263 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad worked for a moving company before landing his first engineering gig.

My Dad tbh with you waited tables for years. Met a lot of people from diverse backgrounds due to that and I think it helped influence my attitude on xenophobia.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:04:18pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

Parking Enforcement officer (PEO). It pays the mortgage and the other bills that come with a house.

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:04:52pm

re: #258 Man, DangerMan

i would normally have said who cares what they did in high school

then i remembered that they are both a lot closer to their high school days than many of us are

not a dig. i am merely recognizing my age and their youth at the same time

ps -

for those of you paying attention, i’ll be running my first ultra-marathon on 5/18.
it’s a 50k - that’s 31 miles. (they do 2 other races at the same time - a 50 miler and 100 miler — i already knew there’s something wrong with me. those people are loony birds.)

it’s in the florida keys, so while it’ll be paved and flat, it’ll be very very hot.

i tell you this because the roster is out and at 61, it appears i’ll be the oldest man running the 50k

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:06:10pm

Brian J…why don’t you stick around and hash some of your comments out? You post some bombs and off you go. That is almost like someone who is nothing but a troll.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:06:15pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

My Dad tbh with you waited tables for years. Met a lot of people from diverse backgrounds due to that and I think it helped influence my attitude on xenophobia.

I have always said that I think it should be mandatory for every teenager/young adult to work at least one “lower” job: Retail, restaurant, bartender, janitor, etc. So many life lessons from working a crappy summer job in high school.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:07:05pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Brian J…why don’t you stick around and hash some of your comments out? You post some bombs and off you go. That is almost like someone who is nothing but a troll.

Oh, we’ve known he’s a troll for a long time. He deliberately keeps his commentary just not inflammatory enough to get suspended/banhammered.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:08:00pm

re: #271 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, we’ve known he’s a troll for a long time. He deliberately keeps his commentary just not inflammatory enough to get suspended/banhammered.

Shhhh. I’m trolling!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:08:21pm

re: #270 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have always said that I think it should be mandatory for every teenager/young adult to work at least one “lower” job: Retail, restaurant, bartender, janitor, etc. So many life lessons from working a crappy summer job in high school.

Yeah I worked at a grocery store myself.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:08:25pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

Shhhh. I’m trolling!

Woopsy, you got me on that one.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:09:23pm

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Yeah I worked at a grocery store myself.

Mine was at a mom-and-pop hardware store. Owner was a friend from church who hired me to work his going-out-of-business sale as he and his family were moving out of state.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:10:49pm

re: #275 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mine was at a mom-and-pop hardware store. Owner was a friend from church who hired me to work his going-out-of-business sale as he and his family were moving out of state.

I helped move used furniture and appliances for a shop in Gary, Indiana.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:11:30pm

re: #275 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mine was at a mom-and-pop hardware store. Owner was a friend from church who hired me to work his going-out-of-business sale as he and his family were moving out of state.

It was far from my favorite job but I definitely have empathy for service workers.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:12:12pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

It was far from my favorite job but I definitely have empathy for service workers.

I also tip really well, especially now that I can afford it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:12:35pm

re: #271 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, we’ve known he’s a troll for a long time. He deliberately keeps his commentary just not inflammatory enough to get suspended/banhammered.

and, personally, I don’t find his election night commentary all that fucking brilliant.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:14:52pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

and, personally, I don’t find his election night commentary all that fucking brilliant.

TBH I see him say a lot of what we shouldn’t be but never what we should be.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:17:19pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

TBH I see him say a lot of what we shouldn’t be but never what we should be.

“I’m not voting for Trump, I’m voting against Hillary.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:18:33pm

re: #281 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“I’m not voting for Trump, I’m voting against Hillary.”

or “I’m not voting at all because there is no real difference”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:19:36pm

re: #281 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“I’m not voting for Trump, I’m voting against Hillary.”

It just to me seems to be a flip side of the Bros who saddle everyone they dislike as a neoliberal corporatist.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:25:14pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

It just to me seems to be a flip side of the Bros who saddle everyone they dislike as a neoliberal corporatist.

He’s probably more a Joe Manchin Democrat. I don’t recall his expressing any animosity toward Hillary or Nancy or any support for Trump. He may have been partial to Bill Clinton in the 1990’s and favors those policies.

The Democratic party is a wide tent, including traditional Democrats, Rockefeller Republicans, and the DSA.

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banditqueen  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:28:50pm

re: #214 Brian J.
You cover a lot of territory in your insulting and demeaning post here. It has the Bernie (and *resident) stamp of not respectfully disagreeing but of wanting to demolish any point of view you disagree with.

You might want to get rid of Bernie, but the Party sees him as the future.

Bernard is not a Democrat and the Democratic Party does not see Bernard as the standard bearer of the party—look at the array of contenders for 2020 dem prez, and consider that Nancy Pelosi has successfully set the strong and effective agenda for the House). Further, there is at least a fair chance that Bernard could go third party “independent” if he feels he can disrupt the 2020 election (see Barr-redacted Mueller Report for details on Russian interference in the 2016 election in support of both Bernard and the *resident). Much democratic, such big tent.

That’s why they let a 29-year-old bartender who claims to be his protegee dictate the House’s agenda this winter and spring

Yo—this repulsive point of view about people working for a living has been addressed effectively already—because it’s such a stupid, oblivious thing to say—but I guess for you slugging away at the bottle alone is just fine—many bars are social centers as well…never mind, that wasn’t your goal anyway—you just want to demolish.

McConnell will gladly let the Democrats keep unwinding their intestines on a reel.

The Democrats are the reason we have seen even seen the redacted version of the Mueller Report—take that McConnell and BriJ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:29:07pm

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s probably more a Joe Manchin Democrat. I don’t recall his expressing any animosity toward Hillary or Nancy or any support for Trump. He may have been partial to Bill Clinton in the 1990’s and favors those policies.

The Democratic party is a wide tent, including traditional Democrats, Rockefeller Republicans, and the DSA.

Apparently you missed Brian’s Hillary hit in this very thread:

re: #188 Brian J.

. Hillary? A neoliberal who deserved to lose even if she cheated against Берни by winning more states and votes.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:29:59pm

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s probably more a Joe Manchin Democrat. I don’t recall his expressing any animosity toward Hillary or Nancy or any support for Trump. He may have been partial to Bill Clinton in the 1990’s and favors those policies.

The Democratic party is a wide tent, including traditional Democrats, Rockefeller Republicans, and the DSA.

I’m just saying that he has the same purity hang up the Bros do and tbh the most dismissive attitude towards women especially women of color like AOC, Tlaib, & Omar.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:30:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:32:11pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently you missed Brian’s Hillary hit in this very thread:

I read that as him thinking AOC and the young progressives in the House think that way which is strange given AOC supports impeachment and said as much yesterday. Let’s be honest tho. He only hates her because she supported Bernie. It’s guilt by association.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:36:57pm

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I read that as him thinking AOC and the young progressives in the House think that way which is strange given AOC supports impeachment and said as much yesterday. Let’s be honest tho. He only hates her because she supported Bernie. It’s guilt by association.

I pretty much just read it as Hillary is a neolib who deserved to lose.
But I wasn’t looking for any parsing to connect it to AOC and others.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:37:08pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently you missed Brian’s Hillary hit in this very thread:

He has used that bit before. He liked Hillary and this is his dig on the Berner’s excuse for her loss.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:37:12pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently you missed Brian’s Hillary hit in this very thread:

No — I took it to mean that’s how the Bernie Bros and the DSA see her — not how he sees her. And if you read the true Bernie Bros and some DSA members (not those here), his characterization is right on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:42:09pm

re: #292 Hecuba’s daughter

No — I took it to mean that’s how the Bernie Bros and the DSA see her — not how he sees her. And if you read the true Bernie Bros and some DSA members (not those here), his characterization is right on.

Yeah, like I just said to HW…I took Brian’s comment that Hillary is a neoliberal who deserved to lose at face value.
Because THAT IS WHO BRIAN J IS.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:42:20pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

I pretty much just read it as Hillary is a neolib who deserved to lose.
But I wasn’t looking for any parsing to connect it to AOC and others.

I think the problem is you can’t tell his real snark from his Bro snark. It all has that Berner-like feel to it. Easy to see it all as the same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:43:06pm

re: #294 ObserverArt

I think the problem is you can’t tell his real snark from his Bro snark. It all has that Berner-like feel to it. Easy to see it all as the same.

That snake story that the moron-in-chief likes to tell all the time?

Brian J is the same.

Just sayin’

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:43:55pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

I pretty much just read it as Hillary is a neolib who deserved to lose.
But I wasn’t looking for any parsing to connect it to AOC and others.

I dunno. In any case his AOC hatred is way over the top.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:44:37pm

It all has a H.A. Goodman feel to it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:45:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:48:25pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like him. Wrestling never interested me and the idea of him as Potus but Johnson seems like a genuinely good dude.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:50:06pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

I like him. Wrestling never interested me and the idea of him as Potus but Johnson seems like a genuinely good dude.

His Samoan grandfather, High Chief Peter Maivia, was a professional wrestler.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:52:41pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

His Samoan grandfather, High Chief Peter Maivia, was a professional wrestler.

Yeah. His father too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 12:56:59pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

I like him. Wrestling never interested me and the idea of him as Potus but Johnson seems like a genuinely good dude.

From all accounts, he is a quality dude. Mrs. Fish fangirls over him and Vin Diesel, so when they both showed up in the later editions of the Fast and the Furious franchise, she almost fainted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:00:35pm
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Jay C  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:04:46pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

If only there’d been some way we could have gotten the same benefits as the countries who joined the TPP…

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BTW, this is yet another example of how stupid Trump is - he insists on bilateral trade negotiations, because he thinks it gives him the whiphand, but there’s no reason why trading blocs can’t cut deals with each other that are better than we get, and also no reason why our trading partners shouldn’t just tell us to deal with the bloc, or go pound sand.

Also:The Orange Anus spent a considerable amount of his campaign time pandering to working-class resentments (which he continually stoked) towards “bad trade deals” - pushing the notion that “everybody else” “takes advantage” of the US, and only a Tough Master Dealmaker like himself could change all that.
It was (and still is) all bullshit, of course, but plays right into Trump’s basic gameplan: any trade deal that he doesn’t get credit (and tons of fawning admiration) for isn’t a deal worth making. And even if “not”, he can still shift the blame and exploit “nationalistic” resentments. Win-win….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:10:08pm

she seems nice…

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Old Liberal  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:11:44pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

she seems nice…

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I’m missing a downside here

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:14:02pm

re: #306 Old Liberal

I’m missing a downside here

Can’t decide whether to smack you or upding you. I’ll do both.

SMACK!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:15:14pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

I dunno. In any case his AOC hatred is way over the top.

I think this comes from his real fear of Trump being reelected. And it’s my fear too. Worst case scenario: The Bernie supporters will sabotage anyone who isn’t Bernie — some are currently supporting a third-party run if Bernie isn’t the nominee. If Bernie is the nominee, Trump’s campaign staff will demolish him — or maybe not. After all, Trump has normalized a whole range of candidate flaws that would have previously been fatal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:19:34pm

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

I think this comes from his real fear of Trump being reelected. And it’s my fear too. Worst case scenario: The Bernie supporters will sabotage anyone who isn’t Bernie — some are currently supporting a third-party run if Bernie isn’t the nominee. If Bernie is the nominee, Trump’s campaign staff will demolish him — or maybe not. After all, Trump has normalized a whole range of candidate flaws that would have previously been fatal.

I get that but his outright sexist and ageist attitude to her pisses me off.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:25:18pm

It’s always she’s a dumb girl or stupid bartender. FWIW I think the left could learn some nuance. But let’s be clear here, it wasn’t the caucus left that tried to prevent Pelosi from being Speaker.

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rhuarc  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:31:56pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

she seems nice…

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Seems like the trash is being dealt with. I see no problems here.

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allegro  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:35:06pm

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

I think this comes from his real fear of Trump being reelected. And it’s my fear too. Worst case scenario: The Bernie supporters will sabotage anyone who isn’t Bernie — some are currently supporting a third-party run if Bernie isn’t the nominee. If Bernie is the nominee, Trump’s campaign staff will demolish him — or maybe not. After all, Trump has normalized a whole range of candidate flaws that would have previously been fatal.

I don’t see Bernie getting anywhere near the nomination. I think the only reason the slovenly old scold got any traction in 2016 was because he was the only candidate running besides Hillary. It was their first debate when I went “nope, not even with him.” And it was just him and Hillary. Now put him on a debate stage with Harris, Warren, and the rest (you can see my preferences thus far) and see how he presents. He will not be treated gently this time as he was the last. His finger-waving bullshit won’t fly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:40:37pm

re: #312 allegro

I don’t see Bernie getting anywhere near the nomination. I think the only reason the slovenly old scold got any traction in 2016 was because he was the only candidate running besides Hillary. It was their first debate when I went “nope, not even with him.” And it was just him and Hillary. Now put him on a debate stage with Harris, Warren, and the rest (you can see my preferences thus far) and see how he presents. He will not be treated gently this time as he was the last. His finger-waving bullshit won’t fly.

I’m not either. I think people are seeing Bernie’s shortcomings more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:41:24pm

re: #311 rhuarc

Seems like the trash is being dealt with. I see no problems here.

As I said to Mrs. FBW, “I don’t have a dog in this fight.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:46:22pm
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sagehen  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:56:41pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:59:02pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

she seems nice…

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She was no longer supreme enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:59:41pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:00:56pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you DT for making us great again. ///

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:04:47pm

this one’s from 6 years ago, but I still love it:

The Maccabeats - Les Misérables - Passover

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:08:25pm
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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:25:19pm

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

It’s a controversial idea, but I agree with it.

If people could’ve seen the true horror of the Sandy Hook Massacre, the crime scene photos, attitudes might change. Horrific, to be sure, but when people can see the actual consequences, they demand action be taken.

Also, it would shut the conspiracy theorists right the fuck up.

on the other hand, if it had shut the conspiracy theorists up, alex jones wouldn’t be about to lose his shirt.

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:28:10pm

re: #191 Joe Bacon 🌹

I prefer Bullshitter Hucky Boo Boo!

I prefer Huckaberry Fibb.

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:30:08pm

re: #324 steve_davis

I prefer Huckaberry Fibb.

I just follow Molly Yong Fast’s example and call her Sarah Sammich.

Fat shaming, I know. Don’t care. She gets back the same derision she shows for people like me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:36:39pm

re: #325 makeitstop

I just follow Molly Yong Fast’s example and call her Sarah Sammich.

Fat shaming, I know. Don’t care. She gets back the same derision she shows for people like me.

have to hide this for obvious reasons…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:43:45pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:44:41pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

have to hide this for obvious reasons…

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:49:29pm

But but it’s Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and the Democrats are the real terrorists!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:53:43pm

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

What part of “hide for obvious reasons” did you not get?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 2:57:12pm

moron is a moron

and retweeting asskissers, again

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:03:43pm

re: #327 Joe Bacon 🌹

Even with her daughter she can’t show an honest smile.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:04:03pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am with the President at the Southern White House, I have never seen him happier!

So he’s chewing on the bedposts, mainlining Diet Coke and just throwing five quarter pounders in a blender.

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Cheechako  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:07:12pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

Before I ever saw a photo of Mark Levin, I pictured him as an old, short, bald, screaming white guy. With a large vein bulging and throbbing on his forehead. And I waited for that vein to explode.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:08:02pm

re: #329 DodgerFan1988

blamed criticism of his beliefs on a “Maoist insurgency” and a “counter state” of “Marxists” and “Islamists”.

Remember when paranoid schizophrenia was a bar to public office?

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:15:11pm

Rick Wilson: “The most striking part of the last two days is how Donald Trump and his allies are acting like losers, more aggrieved, bitchy, and petulant than ever. It’s because they know. They always knew. And now it’s in the open.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:15:32pm

moron who couldn’t beat Obama in his dreams rags on another person who couldn’t do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:20:14pm
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Jay C  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:20:29pm

re: #329 DodgerFan1988

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But but it’s Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and the Democrats are the real terrorists!

At least the buffoon is creative: the “communist revolution” he was expecting didn’t happen “because of the snow”.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:22:19pm
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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:22:51pm

Cnn did a poll
I can’t linky on this phone

12% of Americans don’t know who Mike pence is. 30m people have checked so far out of politics they say they never heard of the current vp

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:24:32pm

re: #341 Man, DangerMan

Cnn did a poll
I can’t linky on this phone

12% of Americans don’t know who Mike pence is. 30m people have checked so far out of politics they say they never heard of the current vp

Mike Pence is currently the subject of a bit of an uproar in my personal life…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:24:40pm

Lre: #341 Man, DangerMan

Cnn did a poll
I can’t linky on this phone

12% of Americans don’t know who Mike pence is. 30m people have checked so far out of politics they say they never heard of the current vp

He is probably the most low profile VP in a long time.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:24:49pm

re: #341 Man, DangerMan

Half of all Americans can’t even name a single supreme court justice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:25:17pm

O_O

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:25:35pm

re: #344 teleskiguy

Ruth Bader Ginsburg
I guess I fall into the half of Americans who does keep up with that sort of thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:27:06pm

re: #346 PhillyPretzel

Ruth Bader Ginsburg

if not that exact name, The Notorious RBG

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:27:31pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

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That’s a buccaneer

Lady to kid dressed as pirate on Halloween:. Where are your buccaneers?

Kid:. They’re under my buccan hat

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:27:34pm

re: #346 PhillyPretzel

Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer, Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas, Gorsuch, & Roberts. And it’s 420.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:28:53pm

Another mid-century food atrocity. Edwards hosted Truth or Consequences on radio from 1940 to ‘57. This probably dates from the latter part of that period, when tuna and mushroom soup were all the rage in contrived suburban cooking. At least there’s no jello in it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:29:13pm

re: #344 teleskiguy

Half of all Americans can’t even name a single supreme court justice.

Merrick Garland.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:29:56pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:32:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:32:58pm

So tomorrow, for Easter, the weather looks clear and sorta sunny, so I’ll be digging up a chunk of one of my hostas (the variegated leaf variety) to plant on Daisy’s grave. And then mix up some cement for her grave marker.

daisy in younger days
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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:33:21pm

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer, Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas, Gorsuch, & Roberts. And it’s 420.

They’re not all single. //

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:35:22pm

re: #355 Man, DangerMan

They’re not all single. //

Ha true. I’ll always wonder if HRC would have renominated Judge Garland or gone with her own. I feel for that man. His lifetime of public service was mocked by McConnell’s stunt.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:36:11pm

Um… yeah.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:36:34pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron who couldn’t beat Obama in his dreams rags on another person who couldn’t do it.

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Oh, man. This is going to make Romney so mad he’ll almost break his teeth supporting Trump’s agenda.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:38:25pm

re: #350 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another mid-century food atrocity. Edwards hosted Truth or Consequences on radio from 1940 to ‘57. This probably dates from the latter part of that period, when tuna and mushroom soup were all the rage in contrived suburban cooking. At least there’s no jello in it.

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MAGA!

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:38:58pm

re: #350 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:39:28pm

re: #357 teleskiguy

Um… yeah.

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Okay this is just getting too weird for me. Is Walsh going to endorse the Dem nominee next?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:40:31pm

Lre: #358 Barefoot Grin

Oh, man. This is going to make Romney so mad he’ll almost break his teeth supporting Trump’s agenda.

Mitt should just say fuck it and join impeachment efforts.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:41:24pm

How much air is there between Bill Weld and Joe Biden in their politics?

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:42:46pm

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:43:40pm

And

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:46:31pm

Lre: #365 Man, DangerMan

And

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I’m not religious at all but how the hell do you say we need more Christ and then support someone who couldn’t be more further from Christ’s teachings?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:47:12pm

So I see Brian J. used that tired, shopworn conservative talking point “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was just a bartender,” which is intended to demean her and as if being a bartender is somehow less qualifying for governance than reality TV star.

You notice that people who bring up that “she’s just a bartender” line (as if that makes her less intelligent or something) never bring up “she graduated with degrees in international relations and economics?”

We will need education in both fields after we pry the GOP and Trump out of the government.

For that matter, we might need the bartending experience as well.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:47:32pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

L

I’m not religious at all but how the hell do you say we need more Christ and then support someone who couldn’t be more further from Christ’s teachings?

You’re brainwashed into believing that Christ’s teachings don’t actually mean what they say they mean.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:48:04pm

HAPPY 420!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:48:31pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

L

I’m not religious at all but how the hell do you say we need more Christ and then support someone who couldn’t be more further from Christ’s teachings?

“He’s a flawed vessel”

“He will get us what we want (stripping LGBT and women’s rights)”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:50:17pm

re: #370 Anymouse 🌹

“He’s a flawed vessel”

“He will get us what we want (stripping LGBT and women’s rights)”

Oh believe me I know. It’s just holy shit their cynicism is so blatant.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:50:57pm

Then again I understand how my devoutly Catholic grandparents felt seeing people treat Reagan as the second coming.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:51:37pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_O

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Pataskala. No surprise there. Former farm/orchard community that has become a bit of a bedroom community to Columbus, about 15 miles east of the city. Some old time religion types around there. Limited Brands operates out that way too, so there is a strange mix in the community.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:51:38pm

re: #368 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You’re brainwashed into believing that Christ’s teachings don’t actually mean what they say they mean.

Love thy neighbor? The hell is this!l?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:52:24pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Love thy neighbor? The hell is this!

“Who is my neighbor? Only white men count. Just think of it that way. Ignore the rest of that babble about the Good Samaritan, that’s just cultural.”

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Man; Anger; DangerMan  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:52:41pm
“The FBI arrested a 69-year-old New Mexico man who allegedly illegally detained immigrants crossing the border under the guise of working for the United States Border Patrol,” the Daily Beast reports.

“Larry Mitchell Hopkins, who runs The United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), an armed border militia group that spreads far-right conspiracies and rounds up asylum seekers on the border, was arrested by FBI in New Mexico Saturday on charges of possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon

Glad they were paying attention

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:52:50pm

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Okay this is just getting too weird for me. Is Walsh going to endorse the Dem nominee next?

I see The Friendly Atheist (Hemant Mehta) is having trouble parsing “woke Joe Walsh” as well.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:54:54pm

Map Porn!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 3:58:11pm

re: #357 teleskiguy

Um… yeah.

Hey, I asked you for a strong south wind today from Colorado. Where is it? We’ve got 86°F and calm.

Where’s our haze?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:00:10pm

re: #379 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, I asked you for a strong south wind today from Colorado. Where is it? We’ve got 86°F and calm.

Where’s our haze?

Well it is 4/20. Presumably there’s a source not too far from you.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:00:25pm

re: #379 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, I asked you for a strong south wind today from Colorado. Where is it? We’ve got 86°F and calm.

Where’s our haze?

Edibles. Vape pens. No haze.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:00:33pm

re: #342 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mike Pence is currently the subject of a bit of an uproar in my personal life…

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:02:51pm

re: #379 Anymouse 🌹

Steady WSW winds today, 10-15 mph, 63° F, overcast. It’s supposed to snow up high this weekend. In fact, I can’t see the mountains to the south right now, they’re socked in.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:24:53pm

re: #344 teleskiguy

Half of all Americans can’t even name a single supreme court justice.

I can name six and I’m a Kiwi, but that’s only thanks to you guys.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:36:13pm

re: #377 Anymouse 🌹

I see The Friendly Atheist (Hemant Mehta) is having trouble parsing “woke Joe Walsh” as well.

It’s weird as hell.

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uriel  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:16:52pm

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

In wrestling parlance, Trump is doing his best to get the Barr summary over, but the fans aren’t having it.

Nice!


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