Radical Religious Right Group Retracts ‘Marriage Pledge’ Slavery Language

A phony retraction for political purposes
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Iowa’s radical religious right group “The Family Leader” is now backing away from their crazed slavery language, in the pledge signed by Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum.

They apparently have a dim realization that they might have crossed a line that shouldn’t be crossed. But this is a political calculation, not a genuine retraction, and there is still a lot of insanity in their pledge. They’re only backing away from the slavery claims because the ugliness of this line of attack was obvious (even to Fox News), and they realized that it might hurt Michele Bachmann’s campaign.

When you’ve lost Fox News, you’d better start issuing retractions. They don’t have to be genuine; they just have to sound good.

A social conservative Iowa group has retracted language regarding slavery from the opening of a presidential candidates’ pledge, amid a growing controversy over the document that Michele Bachmann had signed and Rick Santorum committed to.

The original “marriage vow” from the Family Leader, unveiled last week, included a line at the opening of its preamble, which suggested that black children born into slavery were better off in terms of family life than African-American kids born today.

“Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President,” read the preamble.

But this evening, amid growing questions aimed at Bachmann, Family Leader officials said they’d removed the slavery language from the preamble.

“After careful deliberation and wise insight and input from valued colleagues we deeply respect, we agree that the statement referencing children born into slavery can be misconstrued, and such misconstruction can detract from the core message of the Marriage Vow: that ALL of us must work to strengthen and support families and marriages between one woman and one man,” the group’s officials said in a statement. “We sincerely apologize for any negative feelings this has caused, and have removed the language from the vow.”

Oh, to be a fly on the wall and observe the communications between Bachmann’s campaign and these fanatics that led to this phony retraction.

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1 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:24:38pm

Notice once again its one of those "we're sorry if you got offended apologies"

They say "“We sincerely apologize for any negative feelings this has caused"

Not "We sincerely apologize for putting something so thoughtless" or "We sincerely apologize for our lack of foresight" no its "we're sorry if you got your feelings hurt...."

2 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:24:43pm

These people scream about protecting "American values," and "limited government." These freaks are the opposite of everything American.

3 The Yankee  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:26:02pm

I am sure that there are people who want to put that statement back in.

4 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:26:19pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

And if you got your feelings hurt, fuck you anyway.
//

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:26:31pm

The Internet Age is hell on these old, bigoted theocrats. No wonder they're trying to wreck it.

6 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:26:34pm

Jocko Homo

7 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:28:56pm

Well, Santorum and Bachmann signed it with the klan language firmly in place. They bought the white sheet, they get to fucking wear it.


Ahhh what an election season it will be

8 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:33:49pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

Notice once again its one of those "we're sorry if you got offended apologies"

They say "“We sincerely apologize for any negative feelings this has caused"

Not "We sincerely apologize for putting something so thoughtless" or "We sincerely apologize for our lack of foresight" no its "we're sorry if you got your feelings hurt..."

Egg-xactly...they're not sorry they put this tidbit of bigoted bullshit in that crazy-ass "pledge", they're sorry they got so much heat over it.

Fucking crazy bastards...

9 theheat  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:33:59pm

re: #7 WindUpBird

Waiting for all their convenient "black friends" from church to support them for signing it.
//

10 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:34:21pm

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

old, bigoted theocrats

old, bigoted theocrats

Has the same effect.

11 jvic  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:35:03pm

I am incensed that they caved to Commie pressure.

I mean, show me where the Bible prohibits slavery.

/

12 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:35:13pm

Signing the pledge is like taking on a political suicide mission. In the general election the left will rightfully point out this pledge insanity. Argue with the old Contract With America all you want, it's a very sane document by comparison.

The DNC will run ads saying the pledge is the real GOP platform. And that would not be hyperbole. Obama by 15% is what the pledge will accomplish. Okay the economy will still suck so Obama by 12%.

13 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:38:20pm

re: #7 WindUpBird

This seriously pissed me off more than anything in recent memory. It was such bizarre lie, and the effect of that lie was the minimize slavery, to give this picture of married slaves, men and women bringing up their kids in a somehow stable environment.

And of course it wasn't that. It was a life of beatings and rape where married slaves preferred to live away from each other so they wouldn't have to watch each other being abused. Not to mention their kids being sold, raped, forced to marry, etc.

It was a disgusting statement and this retraction is not in any way an apology for the shiteating lies that it contained. They lied. They lied I believe out of fucking ignorance but I'm sorry, if you're an American you don't get to be ignorant about slavery. We did it, it was fucking terrible, and the least we owe those Americans is to get the goddamn facts straight.

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:39:16pm

re: #10 sod

Has the same effect.

True, but I suspect it's the old(er) ones having the most trouble adjusting to this new(ish) environment of instantaneous communication couple with the 24 hour news cycle.

Tough shit for them. I can learn more about what's really going on behind the scenes with the politicians in five minutes than I could have in five months over ten years ago.

15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:40:28pm

re: #9 theheat

Waiting for all their convenient "black friends" from church to support them for signing it.
//

OTC, Cain will probably sign it, now.

Also, I noted yesterday that the gay name brand sites seemed to skip over the slavery clasue, paying attention to only the antigay slant of the Bachmanns in general.

There's no end to the pandering.

16 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:41:14pm

Daddy, what's wrong with Republicans?

17 Randall Gross  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:41:42pm

The same group has three lecture videos from Santorum up on their youtube page. It's almost a bummer that this got the spotlight so fast -- I was hoping for some good video of Bachmann going all theocrat in front of the friendlies...

18 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:42:27pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

Signing the pledge is like taking on a political suicide mission. In the general election the left will rightfully point out this pledge insanity. Argue with the old Contract With America all you want, it's a very sane document by comparison.

The DNC will run ads saying the pledge is the real GOP platform. And that would not be hyperbole. Obama by 15% is what the pledge will accomplish. Okay the economy will still suck so Obama by 12%.

Probably not.

The sad fact is that most of the people offended by this won't change their votes. The majority would already have voted Democratic in the next election. Republicans will find ways to excuse it. As a result I think it'll only increase the margin by one, maybe one and a half percent.

19 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:42:27pm

re: #9 theheat

Waiting for all their convenient "black friends" from church to support them for signing it.
//

I got nothin' against blacks! Everyone should own one or two!!!
///

20 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:42:27pm

re: #13 Obdicut

I think it was a meant as slight at black, single parent families specifically, and all single parent families in general, and the bigotry was missed because they were looking at it through their racist colored glasses.

21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:43:25pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

Signing the pledge is like taking on a political suicide mission. In the general election the left will rightfully point out this pledge insanity. Argue with the old Contract With America all you want, it's a very sane document by comparison.

Yeah but that's not saying very much. These people have normal Americans pining for the Watergate days. The descent of the whackjob right into unretractable madness has taken a generation since integration/desegregation/Civil Rights. But they have always shown their true colors.

That's why we've NEVER voted for them.

22 Hal_10000  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:43:45pm

Mangled up in that nonsense was something that might have been a point: that despite progress in race relations that have gotten the country to the point where a black president is possible, the African-American family has collapsed. Fair enough. The problem -- apart from the bizarre and offensive "it's worse than slavery" phrasing is that they blame this on gays, abortion, liberals, the teaching of evolution, repeal of DOMA, AGW conspiracy theories or whatever. In fact, one of the biggest things destroying black families today is a policy they support whole-heartedly -- the War on Drugs and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of non-violent non-dangerous African-American men serving huge pointless prison sentences.

23 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:44:56pm

Off-topic except in a "family of wingnuts" kind of way, I've just got to mention this.

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks.

He was reading a Glenn Beck book.

From the library.

While waiting for the public bus.


Took me an hour to get that damn irony meter back to normal.

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:45:05pm

re: #22 Hal_10000

Mangled up in that nonsense was something that might have been a point: that despite progress in race relations that have gotten the country to the point where a black president is possible, the African-American family has collapsed. Fair enough. The problem -- apart from the bizarre and offensive "it's worse than slavery" phrasing is that they blame this on gays, abortion, liberals, the teaching of evolution, repeal of DOMA, AGW conspiracy theories or whatever. In fact, one of the biggest things destroying black families today is a policy they support whole-heartedly -- the War on Drugs and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of non-violent non-dangerous African-American men serving huge pointless prison sentences.

I'm just intrigued at the number of things they think are worse than slavery. (Single parents, abortion...)

Not a lot is worse than slavery.

25 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:45:35pm

re: #22 Hal_10000

What's the total number of incarcerations (regardless of race) in America for non-violent, drug-related offenses? 60%?

26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:46:19pm

re: #13 Obdicut

Funny. Do these nitwits remember that slave owners would sell off children of slaves?

Nonsense.

27 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:46:25pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks

Oh, the pain.

28 Randall Gross  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:47:02pm

re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth

I think it was a meant as slight at black, single parent families specifically, and all single parent families in general, and the bigotry was missed because they were looking at it through their racist colored glasses.

They are affiliated with some of the hardcore anti-abortion types in FRC, so I wouldn't be surprised if that verbiage isn't there as a subliminal shout out to the "Abortion is black genocide / Planned Parenthood=eugenics" types....

29 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:47:13pm

re: #25 Kid A

What's the total number of incarcerations (regardless of race) in America for non-violent, drug-related offenses? 60%?

All I know is that we imprison more people than China or Russia... or China and Russia combined...

[Link: www.naturalnews.com...]

///And you guys call yourselves repressive!

30 The Yankee  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:47:16pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just intrigued at the number of things they think are worse than slavery. (Single parents, abortion...)

Not a lot is worse than slavery.

The New Coke and the Dodge Neon those are the only things worst then slavery.

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:49:09pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just intrigued at the number of things they think are worse than slavery. (Single parents, abortion...)

Not a lot is worse than slavery.

Yeah, but they still have to take it to eleventy, and make all this every day, normal shit worse than both slavery and nazis.

:sigh:

32 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:49:49pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

Off-topic except in a "family of wingnuts" kind of way, I've just got to mention this.

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks.

He was reading a Glenn Beck book.

From the library.

While waiting for the public bus.

Took me an hour to get that damn irony meter back to normal.

In Spokane, the public library waitlist for Glenn Beck's Arguing with Idiots was almost 4 months long. I checked because I thought there would be irony, but I didn't expect so much of it.

33 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:50:36pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

Off-topic except in a "family of wingnuts" kind of way, I've just got to mention this.

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks.

He was reading a Glenn Beck book.

From the library.

While waiting for the public bus.

Took me an hour to get that damn irony meter back to normal.

Maybe he was reading it ironically? Or for research? Or to figure out what the hell his brother has been talking about?

34 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:51:09pm

A social conservative Iowa group has retracted language regarding slavery from the opening of a presidential candidates’ pledge, amid a growing controversy over the document that Michele Bachmann had signed and Rick Santorum committed to.

I don't get what the big deal is. Bachmann said the Founders ended slavery, remember?

35 nines09  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:51:13pm

So the writers had a moment of clarity?/ But Michelle still doesn't get it? Speaks volumes. That's LEADERSHIP!
Bogus retraction BTW. They still are nasty small bigoted cretins. Nice friends there, Rick, you moron.

36 The Yankee  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:51:14pm

re: #32 Spocomptonite

In Spokane, the public library waitlist for Glenn Beck's Arguing with Idiots was almost 4 months long. I checked because I thought there would be irony, but I didn't expect so much of it.

Just cause you read the book doesn't mean you like the politics. I once read a full page of Atlas Shrugs.

37 theheat  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:51:23pm

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They treated them worse than their livestock, and those types still treat their livestock like shit. Dominionism is dominionism, and those types are unable to suppress it. Fuck 'em.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:51:44pm

re: #28 Thanos

They are affiliated with some of the hardcore anti-abortion types in FRC, so I wouldn't be surprised if that verbiage isn't there as a subliminal shout out to the "Abortion is black genocide / Planned Parenthood=eugenics" types...

THE LIBERALS DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES!!

WE DO!!!

(OK, we also don't care about black families, in fact they scare us, but)

THE LIBERALS DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES!!!

39 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:52:00pm

re: #27 Kid A

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks

Oh, the pain.


Yes. Whatever a Zen moment may be, I'm pretty sure this was the exact opposite.

40 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:52:00pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe he was reading it ironically? Or for research? Or to figure out what the hell his brother has been talking about?

Maybe he was thinking about buying gold because it's such a good investment.
/

41 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:52:09pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe he was reading it ironically?

Gawt-damned aging hipsters!

42 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:53:19pm
“After careful deliberation and wise insight and input from valued colleagues we deeply respect, we agree that the statement referencing children born into slavery can be misconstrued, and such misconstruction can detract from the core message of the Marriage Vow: that ALL of us must work to strengthen and support families and marriages between one woman and one man," the group's officials said in a statement. "We sincerely apologize for any negative feelings this has caused, and have removed the language from the vow.”


Translation: We didn't realize that today's Negroes can read, vote and have internet access. We apologize for this oversight.

43 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:53:33pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

THE LIBERALS DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES!!

WE DO!!!

(OK, we also don't care about black families, in fact they scare us, but)

THE LIBERALS DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES!!!

DEMOCRATS WERE AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS!!! BUT NOW WE REPUBLICANS DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ALL VOTE FOR US NOW!!!

44 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:55:01pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

Agreed, and I figured that's what you meant by putting old in there, but it pushes my buttons for some reason - I used to check in most days at DKOS (not so much anymore) and they seemed to be quite fond of the phrase:

Old white men.

Try searching for it over there sometime. Three words that should have no negative meaning are strung together and offered as an explanation for all the ills and injustices of the world. I'm a white man. With any luck, one day I'll be an old, white man. Hopefully people won't hold it against me.

45 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:55:08pm

re: #29 jamesfirecat

All I know is that we imprison more people than China or Russia... or China and Russia combined...



***

"The United States has 5 percent of the world's population and 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population. We rank first in the world in locking up our fellow citizens," said Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance, which supports alternatives in the war on drugs. "We now imprison more people for drug law violations than all of Western Europe, with a much larger population, incarcerates for all offenses."


"Put the bong down and nobody gets hurt, okay?"

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:55:25pm

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

Gawt-damned aging hipsters!

I am a great fan of "Stuff White People Like", but I've always been amused by the fact that, for the author, 'white people' clearly means the white people he or she knows personally, apparently Boston hipsters in their late twenties, hence the statement that "All white people hate Sarah Palin".

47 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:55:28pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just intrigued at the number of things they think are worse than slavery. (Single parents, abortion...)

Not a lot is worse than slavery.

Genocide
Asteroid impacts
Super Volcano eruptions
Mesoamerican Ballgame

48 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:56:01pm

re: #22 Hal_10000

Mangled up in that nonsense was something that might have been a point: that despite progress in race relations that have gotten the country to the point where a black president is possible, the African-American family has collapsed. Fair enough. The problem -- apart from the bizarre and offensive "it's worse than slavery" phrasing is that they blame this on gays, abortion, liberals, the teaching of evolution, repeal of DOMA, AGW conspiracy theories or whatever. In fact, one of the biggest things destroying black families today is a policy they support whole-heartedly -- the War on Drugs and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of non-violent non-dangerous African-American men serving huge pointless prison sentences.

Well, I disagree with the entire premise.

Just because a lot of black families -- and a whole lot of other people's families -- don't go by the repressive Victorian/nuclear family model does not mean there is anything intrinsically wrong with those families.

Fact is, conventional wisdom would disagree with the statement, above.

I still hold that for all the hoopla about this pledge, a lot of people really do agree with it's conclusions about the innate pathology of black families, an idea that has been peddled since the Moynihan Report. And the idea did not even originate with him.

49 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:56:42pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Translation: We didn't realize that today's Negroes can read, vote and have internet access. We apologize for this oversight.

And I hate my country every day that damned Lincoln freed dem Negroes.

50 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:56:50pm

re: #47 Spocomptonite

and Clock Spiders.

51 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:58:17pm

re: #49 Kid A

And I hate my country every day that damned Lincoln freed dem Negroes.


He freed the who?!?!?
/Outrageous ourage

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:58:33pm

re: #44 sod

Agreed, and I figured that's what you meant by putting old in there, but it pushes my buttons for some reason - I used to check in most days at DKOS (not so much anymore) and they seemed to be quite fond of the phrase:

Old white men.

Try searching for it over there sometime. Three words that should have no negative meaning are strung together and offered as an explanation for all the ills and injustices of the world. I'm a white man. With any luck, one day I'll be an old, white man. Hopefully people won't hold it against me.

One of my former bosses once said, (only thing he ever said that I really liked), "I have no problem with you teaching the kids books by dead white men. Someday I myself am going to be a dead white man."

53 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:59:09pm

re: #28 Thanos

They are affiliated with some of the hardcore anti-abortion types in FRC, so I wouldn't be surprised if that verbiage isn't there as a subliminal shout out to the "Abortion is black genocide / Planned Parenthood=eugenics" types...

I think it's more a swipe from "the democrat party = the plantation" types.

Who oddly demand all Black voters to pull the lever for their Confederate flagwaving candidates, but whatever.

54 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:59:57pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

Off-topic except in a "family of wingnuts" kind of way, I've just got to mention this.

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks.

He was reading a Glenn Beck book.

From the library.

While waiting for the public bus.

Took me an hour to get that damn irony meter back to normal.

re: #27 Kid A

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks

Oh, the pain.

If I'm wearing shorts, I at least have the common decency to wear either my black wool hiking socks or my ankle-length sport socks ;-P

55 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:00:17pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Translation: We didn't realize that today's Negroes can read, vote and have internet access. We apologize for this oversight.

If only we'd voted for Strom Thurmond. Then we wouldn't be having all these problems.

56 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:00:31pm

re: #44 sod

Agreed, and I figured that's what you meant by putting old in there, but it pushes my buttons for some reason - I used to check in most days at DKOS (not so much anymore) and they seemed to be quite fond of the phrase:

Old white men.

Try searching for it over there sometime. Three words that should have no negative meaning are strung together and offered as an explanation for all the ills and injustices of the world. I'm a white man. With any luck, one day I'll be an old, white man. Hopefully people won't hold it against me.

But the use is valid. Repetitive polls and exit polls have shown that age is a predictor of voting tendency.

They tend to be old. They tend to be white. And they are more likely to be male.

57 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:00:37pm

re: #50 Spocomptonite

and Clock Spiders.


I hear that new Transformers movie is pretty high up on the list.

58 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:00:47pm

re: #53 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Cool site you have. I just checked it out.

59 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:01:06pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

THE LIBERALS DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES!!

WE DO!!!

(OK, we also don't care about black families, in fact they scare us, but)

THE LIBERALS DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES!!!

THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAD A KLANSMAN AS A SENATOR DONCHA KNOW!

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:01:31pm

re: #44 sod

Oh, I dig it now. No offense intended.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:01:57pm

South Sudan's new national anthem.

And for everyone who's been whining about how Sudan already means 'south', get over it.

62 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:02:35pm

Michele Bachmann's people realized that this was a huge mistake, when the media started pointing out the insane slavery language. So all of a sudden, Fox News runs an article denouncing that section of the pledge, and Family Leader backs down and pretends their statement was "misconstrued."

It's pretty obvious what happened here -- it's called an "Oh shit!" moment.

63 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:03:01pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

South Sudan's new national anthem.

And for everyone who's been whining about how Sudan already means 'south', get over it.

It's just more south now...

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:03:07pm

re: #55 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

If only we'd voted for Strom Thurmond. Then we wouldn't be having all these problems.

Damnit! Now you're making me nostalgic for Spare O'Lake. She'd always defend Trent Lott on that one.

65 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:03:47pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

He freed the who?!?!?
/Outrageous ourage

Lincoln didn't free the slaves, he enslaved the enslavers and made them do the slave labor instead!

/spin

66 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:04:04pm

re: #62 Charles

Michele Bachmann's people realized that this was a huge mistake, when the media started pointing out the insane slavery language. So all of a sudden, Fox News runs an article denouncing that section of the pledge, and Family Leader backs down and pretends their statement was "misconstrued."

It's pretty obvious what happened here -- it's called an "Oh shit!" moment.

Aren't these the same people that were screaming "READ THE BILL! READ THE BILL!" during the health care debates?

67 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:04:16pm

re: #62 Charles

Michele Bachmann's people realized that this was a huge mistake, when the media started pointing out the insane slavery language. So all of a sudden, Fox News runs an article denouncing that section of the pledge, and Family Leader backs down and pretends their statement was "misconstrued."

It's pretty obvious what happened here -- it's called an "Oh shit!" moment.

Precisely what I said upthread...they're not sorry that they put that odious language in in the first place, only that they were getting pilloried for it.

68 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:05:02pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

South Sudan's new national anthem.

And for everyone who's been whining about how Sudan already means 'south', get over it.

Like when someone calls it a "PIN number," or "ATM machine."

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:05:03pm

re: #47 Spocomptonite

Mesoamerican Ballgame

Heh.

"Your team lost. Go to the alter to die in ritual sacrifice".

"Your team won. Congratulations! Go to the alter to die in ritual sacrifice".

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:05:14pm

re: #65 Spocomptonite

Lincoln didn't free the slaves, he enslaved the enslavers and made them do the slave labor instead!

/spin

And he violated eminent domain!! He shoulda PAID for those slaves!!

//Sadly, not kidding, there are people who argue this.

71 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:06:25pm

re: #62 Charles

Michele Bachmann's people realized that this was a huge mistake, when the media started pointing out the insane slavery language. So all of a sudden, Fox News runs an article denouncing that section of the pledge, and Family Leader backs down and pretends their statement was "misconstrued."

It's pretty obvious what happened here -- it's called an "Oh shit!" moment.

I call it conservative PC. Cons are more PC than even the left was some time in 1992, complete with all the hysteria and hypocrisy that went along with it.

Difference is, they've spent the past 20 years deriding it. That is, until Palin and a Black President came along. Now look who's on the bandwagon. /rant

72 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:08:23pm

re: #66 Kid A

Aren't these the same people that were screaming "READ THE BILL! READ THE BILL!" during the health care debates?

Yeah.

But they never read those bills, either. Reading things is for the f#gs.

73 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:08:30pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh.

"Your team lost. Go to the altar to die in ritual sacrifice".

"Your team won. Congratulations! Go to the altar to die in ritual sacrifice".

Any way you look at it, you lose...no repeat winners there.

BTW, FTFY ;-P

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:08:54pm

re: #62 Charles

They were very clear. It is better to be a slave baby with two parents than to be a free baby with one parent.

Wait! Let me try another way to say that...
/

75 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:09:07pm

re: #58 Kid A

Cool site you have. I just checked it out.

Thx. It's silly, but I do have fun with it.

76 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:10:14pm

re: #68 Kid A

Like when someone calls it a "PIN number," or "ATM machine."

A networking protocol called Asynchronous Transfer Mode is used by ATM machines.
/pedant.

77 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:11:44pm

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

I also don't like it when someone asks me for my "Social." If I wanted to invite you to it, I would have.
/

78 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:12:03pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

South Sudan's new national anthem.

And for everyone who's been whining about how Sudan already means 'south', get over it.

So call it "Baja Sudan".

79 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:12:11pm

When I read that Fox News article earlier, I thought, "Why do they sound like they're condemning this, when they promote similar views all the time?"

Now we know why -- because Michele Bachmann's candidacy was in danger, and they knew it. We're seeing the right wing close ranks.

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:14:03pm

re: #77 Kid A

"Intensive purposes" and "irregardless" are usually the ones that bug me the most. I'd add "refudiate" to that list, but that one is just too damn funny.

81 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:14:39pm

re: #79 Charles

When I read that Fox News article earlier, I thought, "Why do they sound like they're condemning this, when they promote similar views all the time?"

Now we know why -- because Michele Bachmann's candidacy was in danger, and they knew it. We're seeing the right wing close ranks.

Frankly, I would rather see the circular firing squad than them circle the wagons.

82 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:14:42pm

re: #79 Charles

I know Fox was just preaching to the choir, but didn't any of their viewers get slightly offended at the "terrorist fist jab" segment during the 2008 campaign? My God, I still can't believe that made it air.

83 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:15:22pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

And he violated eminent domain!! He shoulda PAID for those slaves!!

//Sadly, not kidding, there are people who argue this.

Any seething blueballs conservative making that argument should check why they had 3 extra days to turn in their taxes this year. [Link: www.archives.gov...]

The District of Columbia Emancipation Act

On April 16, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln signed a bill ending slavery in the District of Columbia. Passage of this law came 8 1/2 months before President Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation. The act brought to a conclusion decades of agitation aimed at ending what antislavery advocates called "the national shame" of slavery in the nation's capital.

It provided for immediate emancipation, compensation to former owners who were loyal to the Union of up to $300 for each freed slave, voluntary colonization of former slaves to locations outside the United States, and payments of up to $100 for each person choosing emigration. Over the next 9 months, the Board of Commissioners appointed to administer the act approved 930 petitions, completely or in part, from former owners for the freedom of 2,989 former slaves.

84 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:15:47pm

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

"Intensive purposes" and "irregardless" are usually the ones that bug me the most. I'd add "refudiate" to that list, but that one is just too damn funny.

"Misunderestimated," "Frozen tundra."

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:17:19pm

re: #73 talon_262

BTW, FTFY ;-P

Ya know, I should know the difference between "alter" and "altar" by now, what with being a big SLAYER! fan all these years.

Altar of Sacrifice.

86 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:17:49pm

re: #84 Kid A

"Misunderestimated," "Frozen tundra."

The La Brea Tar Pits.

87 jvic  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:18:03pm

re: #71 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I call it conservative PC. Cons are more PC than even the left was some time in 1992, complete with all the hysteria and hypocrisy that went along with it.

Difference is, they've spent the past 20 years deriding it. That is, until Palin and a Black President came along. Now look who's on the bandwagon. /rant

LGFers almost always treat this conservative respectfully. I can't say the same for my homeys when I criticize Palin.

88 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:20:22pm

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They were very clear. It is better to be a slave baby with two parents than to be a free baby with one parent.

Wait! Let me try another way to say that...
/

At least the slave babies would never be plagued with the awful dilemma of voting for the first African American president who is on the democrat plantation. /social conservative fail

89 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:21:36pm

re: #87 jvic

LGFers almost always treat this conservative respectfully. I can't say the same for my homeys when I criticize Palin.

Or Beck.

"You know it's hard out here for a RINO".

90 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:22:50pm

re: #87 jvic

LGFers almost always treat this conservative respectfully. I can't say the same for my homeys when I criticize Palin.

Lol I bet any money you get labeled a "sexist" for it. Like the rw ever cared about "sexism" until someone made fun of Sarah Palin's accent.

Up until her, anyone who talked about "sexism" was a feminazi, a word they have completely eliminated from their vocabulary in the past 3 years.

Lol very 1992. Very politically correct.

91 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:23:54pm

Tomorrow will be a big news day:

"Obama won't "back off" on debt-reduction effort

WASHINGTON | Sat Jul 9, 2011 9:40pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama will not back off in his efforts to solve U.S. debt problems and will make the case to congressional leaders in talks on Sunday for taking on "this critical challenge," the White House said on Saturday.

"We need a balanced approach that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said in statement after House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner abandoned efforts to reach a $4 trillion deficit reduction deal and proposed pursuing a more modest package."

(Reporting by Matt Spetalnick)

92 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:24:27pm

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

I like:

Viola!

That's usually just in print though, I've never actually heard anyone exclaim that.

I've heard people say "constellation" instead of "consolation".

93 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:25:12pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Tomorrow will be a big news day:

"Obama won't "back off" on debt-reduction effort

WASHINGTON | Sat Jul 9, 2011 9:40pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama will not back off in his efforts to solve U.S. debt problems and will make the case to congressional leaders in talks on Sunday for taking on "this critical challenge," the White House said on Saturday.

"We need a balanced approach that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said in statement after House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner abandoned efforts to reach a $4 trillion deficit reduction deal and proposed pursuing a more modest package."

(Reporting by Matt Spetalnick)

Got'em on the run. "You wanted this discussion, now we're having it!"

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:25:31pm

re: #90 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Like the rw ever cared about "sexism" until someone made fun of Sarah Palin's accent

That brings to mind another one.

"Nook-Yuh-Ler" is not an accent, it's a malapropism.

95 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:25:46pm

re: #92 sod

I like:

Viola!

That's usually just in print though, I've never actually heard anyone exclaim that.

I've heard people say "constellation" instead of "consolation".

I swear, someone once ended an e-mail to me with "Chow!" instead of "Ciao!"

96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:27:59pm

re: #95 Kid A

I swear, someone once ended an e-mail to me with "Chow!" instead of "Ciao!"

They were just informing you that it was dinner time. Sheesh, don't be so stuck up.
/

97 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:28:14pm

re: #92 sod

I like:

Viola!

That's usually just in print though, I've never actually heard anyone exclaim that.

I've heard people say "constellation" instead of "consolation".

I worked for a company once that had 3000 brochures printed up with the hook line. "Where quality is more then just a promise."

98 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:29:40pm

re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth

"Nook-Yuh-Ler" is not an accent, it's a malapropism.

"New-clear"
Is the proper way
Why do people find it
So damn hard to say?

99 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:31:29pm

re: #97 Mr Pancakes

I worked for a company once that had 3000 brochures printed up with the hook line. "Where quality is more then just a promise."

"Your" instead of "You're," and don't ever (if you're a male friend of mine) EVER text me an emoticon!!! =)
/

100 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:33:35pm

re: #97 Mr Pancakes

I try to keep this handy.

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:34:20pm

re: #98 publicityStunted

I have an educated, thoughtful friend who can not say the words, aluminum or chrysanthemum.

My least favorite personal consistent language screw up? My excessive misappropriation of the apostrophe. I did it a few posts back.

I did say "Levity" once in conversation when I meant "Liberty". That was 8 or 9 years ago. I still blush when I think about it.

102 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:34:24pm

re: #99 Kid A

"Your" instead of "You're," and don't ever (if you're a male friend of mine) EVER text me an emoticon!!! =)
/

Or their, there, and they're is another...... I've even done it in haste.... not often..... emoticons are so mid 90's...... never use them anymore...... they look goofy now.

103 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:34:34pm

re: #98 publicityStunted

"New-clear"
Is the proper way
Why do people find it
So damn hard to say?

Former Chicago Mayor Richard Daley: "Let's get this straight. The police don't cause disorder. The police are here to preserve disorder."

104 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:34:45pm

re: #99 Kid A

"Your" instead of "You're," and don't ever (if you're a male friend of mine) EVER text me an emoticon!!! =)
/

t("t)

105 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:34:52pm

re: #100 Slumbering Behemoth

I try to keep this handy.

Good one

106 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:35:10pm

With all the attention the LAMESTREAM MEDIA is giving to Michele Bachmann these days, I actually feel kinda sorry for Sarah Palin. I bet that when she looks as Michele Bachmann, she feels the same way the Jonas Brothers feel when they see Justin Bieber.

107 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:35:43pm

re: #95 Kid A

I swear, someone once ended an e-mail to me with "Chow!" instead of "Ciao!"

Perhaps they were hungry.

108 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:36:43pm

Also, anyone over the age of fifteen that texts me "K" as in "okay". I hate that almost as guy friends texting emoticons.

109 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:37:36pm

"Create a little dysentery among the ranks." - Christopher Moltisanti.

110 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:37:43pm

re: #92 sod

I like:

Viola!

That's usually just in print though, I've never actually heard anyone exclaim that.

I've heard people say "constellation" instead of "consolation".

And what's Viola? Isn't that WAA LAA?

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:38:14pm

re: #106 negativ

With all the attention the LAMESTREAM MEDIA is giving to Michele Bachmann these days, I actually feel kinda sorry for Sarah Palin. I bet that when she looks as Michele Bachmann, she feels the same way the Jonas Brothers feel when they see Justin Bieber.

Nah. I think she loves having the opportunity to quietly fade into the background for a little while and avoid all the "Bitch, why ain't you running for president" questions from her fan base.

112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:38:19pm

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Funny. Do these nitwits remember that slave owners would sell off children of slaves?

Aww, how bad could it be.

Slaveowners were just regular people like you and me.

That's why Obama's Shirley Sherrod RACIST NAACP SEIU ACORN thugs want to censor films like Song of the South and Gone With the Wind, that only depicted the way things were in the south before the arrogant yankee and the federal gummint came with their War Against the States Rights.

113 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:39:06pm

re: #110 Mr Pancakes

And what's Viola? Isn't that WAA LAA?

Image: viola_.jpg

114 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:39:13pm

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an educated, thoughtful friend who can not say the words, aluminum or chrysanthemum.

How do they do with this one? ^_^

115 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:39:45pm

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an educated, thoughtful friend who can not say the words, aluminum or chrysanthemum.

Since you're already on the Internet, your next task is to find a British person on a science-ish forum and argue about whether it's "aluminum" (a-LOO-min-um) or "aluminium" (a-loo-MIN-ee-um).

116 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:40:24pm

re: #113 Kid A

Image: viola_.jpg

Good ole Frank Waa Laa....... I thought I was going to see a stringed instrument.

117 laZardo  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:40:51pm

re: #99 Kid A

"Your" instead of "You're," and don't ever (if you're a male friend of mine) EVER text me an emoticon!!! =)
/

(°Д°)

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:40:59pm

re: #114 publicityStunted

Freaking love that little song.

119 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:41:11pm

re: #116 Mr Pancakes

Any time I can drop a baseball reference, I jump at it.

120 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:41:54pm

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think I commented this once before, but anyway, a guy was telling a story about a buddy of his that was hurt in Iraq by an

IUD

it was (obviously) a somber story and nobody else let on that they caught the mistake, but I couldn't help smiling, I'm such a schmuck.

121 laZardo  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:42:20pm

Emoticons aside, I'm not exactly feeling positive this morning.

And by that I mean even less than my normal lack of positivity.

122 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:42:57pm

re: #120 sod

I think I commented this once before, but anyway, a guy was telling a story about a buddy of his that was hurt in Iraq by an

IUD

it was (obviously) a somber story and nobody else let on that they caught the mistake, but I couldn't help smiling, I'm such a schmuck.

Yes, if they get dislodged it can be quite painful.

123 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:43:05pm

She still signed it with the slavery message.

124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:43:15pm

re: #120 sod

If you're hit by an IUD, you are NOT doing it right.

125 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:44:30pm

re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If you're hit by an IUD, you are NOT doing it right.

If you're hitting the IUD, you're going to get complaints.

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:44:57pm

re: #114 publicityStunted

How do they do with this one? ^_^

[Video]

They finally did it. Ever since I was a kid, I would hear that tune in my head whenever I heard the word "phenomenon".

127 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:45:08pm

re: #125 darthstar

If you're hitting the IUD, you're going to get complaints.

Or compliments

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:45:35pm

re: #125 darthstar

If you're hitting the IUD, you're going to get complaints.

Or a Pron contract.

129 jvic  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:46:59pm

re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth

#106 negativ

With all the attention the LAMESTREAM MEDIA is giving to Michele Bachmann these days, I actually feel kinda sorry for Sarah Palin. I bet that when she looks as Michele Bachmann, she feels the same way the Jonas Brothers feel when they see Justin Bieber.

Nah. I think she loves having the opportunity to quietly fade into the background for a little while and avoid all the "Bitch, why ain't you running for president" questions from her fan base.

1. Sarah is completely focused on her jury duty, of course. /

2. Seriously, I suspect she's waiting to see how the new Palin movie does before deciding her next move.

130 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:47:45pm

LOL you guys!

That's my deep contribution right now.

131 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:47:57pm

re: #127 Mr Pancakes

Or compliments

"Needledick" isn't a compliment.

132 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:48:08pm

re: #106 negativ

With all the attention the LAMESTREAM MEDIA is giving to Michele Bachmann these days, I actually feel kinda sorry for Sarah Palin. I bet that when she looks as Michele Bachmann, she feels the same way the Jonas Brothers feel when they see Justin Bieber.

Yeah, a tide has turned, I think.

I figured her upstaging behavior of showing up to Pella (the nerve center of this THE FAMiLY LEADER nonsense) at the same time as Bachmann would work with the press.

But the press has found themselves a new shiny object for the next day or two, so I was wrong about that.

It's doubtful if Palin is going to announce -- TMK she is still on House of Saud/NewsCorp payroll -- but if she is, this brouhaha has provided the perfect foil. And now that they've crossed out the passage that offends racial sensibilities (leaving of course those that offend every other sensibilities) she and Cain might even sign on to it. Best of both worlds for them.

133 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:48:42pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

LOL you guys!

That's my deep contribution right now.

OMG, ur funny LOL!

134 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:48:56pm

re: #131 darthstar

"Needledick" isn't a compliment.

No, but firehose is.

135 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:50:36pm

re: #134 Mr Pancakes

No, but firehose is.

noodle.

136 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:51:56pm

re: #121 laZardo

Emoticons aside, I'm not exactly feeling positive this morning.

And by that I mean even less than my normal lack of positivity.

Dude. If delving into the mysteries of the universe bums you out, I have no idea what to say to you.

137 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:52:11pm

I love my cat...when he wants to lie beside me he walks across my lap, grabs onto my leg with his front paws, and does a somersault onto the couch next to me...then he removes his claws from my flesh.

138 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:52:13pm

re: #135 darthstar

noodle.

Manicotti or angel hair?

139 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:52:13pm

re: #134 Mr Pancakes

No, but firehose is.

I once got called "Eric Holmes" by a, ahem, girlfriend.

140 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:52:47pm

re: #138 Mr Pancakes

Manicotti or angel hair?

Orrechetti.

141 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:53:02pm

re: #139 Kid A

I once got called "Eric Holmes" by a, ahem, girlfriend.

Dude... right on.

142 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:53:46pm

re: #132 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I'm sure you are following, but her fans are freaking out on the possibility of her running/not running. She's totally twisting their minds.

In some way I think she's going to run because she doesn't want to disappoint her fans. But again, this is The Grifter.

(how do I do the trademark thingy?)

143 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:55:11pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

Off-topic except in a "family of wingnuts" kind of way, I've just got to mention this.

Yesterday I saw a middle-aged guy, ponytail, shorts, t-shirt, tube socks.

He was reading a Glenn Beck book.

From the library.

While waiting for the public bus.

Took me an hour to get that damn irony meter back to normal.

It's just hair. Plus, the tube socks should have been a dead giveaway. ;)

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:55:13pm

re: #139 Kid A

I once got called "Eric Holmes" by a, ahem, girlfriend.

I once got called "The Big Dipper". She was lying, of course, but I took the compliment anyway.

145 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:55:14pm

re: #129 jvic

Nah. I think she loves having the opportunity to quietly fade into the background for a little while and avoid all the "Bitch, why ain't you running for president" questions from her fan base.

1. Sarah is completely focused on her jury duty, of course. /

2. Seriously, I suspect she's waiting to see how the new Palin movie does before deciding her next move.

I keep saying she's running a stealth campaign.

Until she officially declares, her finances are not open to FEC regulation and reporting.

Now at a certain point she has to fish or cut bait. Technically, that doesn't have to happen till the registration deadlines for various ballots; sometime in December as I recall. (too lazy to go looking). Practically, I think she has till the end of July.

I do think she'll enter. I also think she'll quit - though it'll be the fault of someone(s) else.

146 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:55:22pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

I'm sure you are following, but her fans are freaking out on the possibility of her running/not running. She's totally twisting their minds.

In some way I think she's going to run because she doesn't want to disappoint her fans. But again, this is The Grifter.

(how do I do the trademark thingy?)

And it's a lot of fun to watch. Have you ever read the comments on her facebook page?

147 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:55:41pm

re: #99 Kid A

"Your" instead of "You're," and don't ever (if you're a male friend of mine) EVER text me an emoticon!!! =)
/

Worst of all is "ur". Never mind that it sounds like a Babylonian god or something.

If u should go skating on the thin ice of modern life, dragging behind u the silent reproach of a million tear-stained eyes, don't be surprised when a crack in the ice appears under ur feet. U'll slip out of ur depth and out of ur mind with ur tears flowing out behind u as u claw at the ice.

gaah! stab stab

148 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:55:48pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

(how do I do the trademark thingy?)

I don't know - I'm still trying to figure out how to do the small font. Can someone enlighten me?

149 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:56:39pm

re: #148 sod

I don't know - I'm still trying to figure out how to do the small font. Can someone enlighten me?

I just can't get enough of the wingnut thing.

150 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:56:45pm

re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth

I once got called "The Big Dipper". She was lying, of course, but I took the compliment anyway.

Maybe she confused the Big Dipper with the Little Dipper........ or she was trying to bolster your ego.

151 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:56:56pm

152 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:56:56pm

re: #148 sod

I don't know - I'm still trying to figure out how to do the small font. Can someone enlighten me?

< sub > Text < /sub >

No spaces in the code.

153 laZardo  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:57:07pm

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude. If delving into the mysteries of the universe bums you out, I have no idea what to say to you.

I just find it a distraction.

AGW is threatening humanity more than any distant space rock, American healthcare is comparable to Cuba's, terrestrial science is being discouraged in our already-failing schools thanks to the creationist agenda.

I'd find these are better causes to fund before the space program, the latter because if the creationists have their way then we won't have anybody to staff it.

154 theheat  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:57:15pm

re: #147 negativ

Reminds me of gar, like the fish. That leads to gah. Which then reminds me of derp. Ur is a derpy thing to write.

155 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:57:30pm

Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right

156 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:57:42pm

re: #145 kirkspencer

New Palin movie has to compete with re-runs of Harry Potter.

157 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:57:44pm

test

158 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:58:04pm

re: #155 Gus 802

Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right Radical Religious Right

Now how do you do THAT?

159 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:58:05pm

re: #152 Gus 802

Mercy buckets

160 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:58:54pm

re: #158 Kid A

Now how do you do THAT?

I just repeated < sub >Radical Religious Right

Copy and pasted a bunch of times.

161 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:58:58pm

re: #158 Kid A

Now how do you do THAT?

He's sub-human

162 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:59:10pm

Jesus saves!

163 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:59:12pm

re: #140 darthstar

Orrechetti.

Looked it up. You misspelled it.

164 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:59:36pm

re: #162 Kid A

Jesus saves!

The rest of you take full damage.

/nerd mode

165 calochortus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:00:05pm

I haven't had time to read all the comments yet, but did it occur to these Family Values morons that slaves couldn't legally marry? If you don't own yourself, you can't contract with another person or the state. They could go through a ceremony, but they weren't any more married than a pair of gays in Texas that go through a ceremony.

166 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:00:10pm

re: #150 Mr Pancakes

Clearly the latter.

167 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:00:32pm

re: #161 darthstar

He's sub-human

Thwack!Thwack! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack!

168 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:01:03pm

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

Clearly the latter.

Gravel.

//

169 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:01:13pm

re: #146 Kid A

And it's a lot of fun to watch. Have you ever read the comments on her facebook page?

YES! Freaking nutjobs all horny and what.

170 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:01:30pm

Teabagger! Teabagger! Teabagger! Teabagger!

171 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:02:12pm

re: #153 laZardo

I just find it a distraction.

AGW is threatening humanity more than any distant space rock, American healthcare is comparable to Cuba's, terrestrial science is being discouraged in our already-failing schools thanks to the creationist agenda.

I'd find these are better causes to fund before the space program, the latter because if the creationists have their way then we won't have anybody to staff it.

Again.

172 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:02:14pm

re: #147 negativ

Worst of all is "ur". Never mind that it sounds like a Babylonian god or something.

If u should go skating on the thin ice of modern life, dragging behind u the silent reproach of a million tear-stained eyes, don't be surprised when a crack in the ice appears under ur feet. U'll slip out of ur depth and out of ur mind with ur tears flowing out behind u as u claw at the ice.

gaah! stab stab

Ur--Abraham's hometown.

173 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:02:15pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

Looked it up. You misspelled it.


I figured I misspelled it based on the red underline...orecchiette doesn't get recognized by firefox either (nor does "firefox" apparently)...

174 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:02:20pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

At the bottom of the post box Charles has a link to "How to enter special characters."

175 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:03:02pm

Michelle BachmannIs A Lunatic

176 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:03:03pm

I have found my new crack, and it has a name: Minecraft.

177 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:03:18pm

testicle

- ooh look...a little wingnut.

178 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:03:40pm

re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth

Nah. I think she loves having the opportunity to quietly fade into the background for a little while and avoid all the "Bitch, why ain't you running for president" questions from her fan base.

I'd pay a small but non-zero amount of money to sift through the berserk fan mail she must receive. People are insane. High-profile people tend to attract lunatics (Jodie Foster, David Letterman, Bjork, John Lennon, among many others) and I would be shocked if Sarah Palin didn't have at least one Number One Fan she'd rather not have.

179 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:04:13pm

re: #174 sod

Taking advantage of the mentally handicapped in that way is not cool!
///

180 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:04:39pm

re: #177 darthstar

- ooh look...a little wingnut.

My name is Andrew Breitbart and I have a small penis.

181 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:06:17pm

re: #150 Mr Pancakes

Maybe she confused the Big Dipper with the Little Dipper... or she was trying to bolster your ego.

"The 50th Percentile Dipper" just sounds cruel.

182 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:06:48pm

I gave it an honest look, I really did. Good and hard. I can truly say that I can't find a single redeeming thing about this Michele Bachmann person.

183 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:07:48pm

The Republicans want to kill the James Webb Space Telescope. I think that's just awesome!

// //

184 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:07:50pm

re: #182 SpaceJesus

I gave it an honest look, I really did. Good and hard. I can truly say that I can't find a single redeeming thing about this Michele Bachmann person.

Well, she has Charlie Manson's eyes, so that's something.

*Compare for yourself - she does.

185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:07:52pm

re: #139 Kid A

Him: "Am I hurting you?"
Her: "No! You're just annoying me!"

186 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:08:08pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Thwack!Thwack! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack!

I'm sorry...did I say sub? Gus is SUPER-human

187 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:08:23pm

re: #182 SpaceJesus

I gave it an honest look, I really did. Good and hard. I can truly say that I can't find a single redeeming thing about this Michele Bachmann person.

Well ..... at least you guys have something in common.

188 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:08:57pm

re: #180 Gus 802

I found another kind of Brietbart recently. It appears that he is not a big fan of the New Testament.

189 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:09:07pm

re: #179 Slumbering Behemoth

Ha! and I was thinking something along the lines of "what makes those characters think they're so special?"

Your's, while politically incorrect and disturbing to boot, is much funnier.

190 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:09:07pm

re: #186 darthstar

I'm sorry...did I say sub? Gus is SUPER-human

Finally you're beginning to see the light. Now. Wash my feet!

//

191 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:09:34pm

re: #190 Gus 802

Finally you're beginning to see the light. Now. Wash my feet!

//

Sure...as soon as you pull them out of your mouth.

192 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:10:03pm

Time to check my gratin...see you all in a bit.

193 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:10:18pm

re: #191 darthstar

Sure...as soon as you pull them out of your mouth.

But. But.

//

194 sod  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:10:19pm

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've heard the dreaded:

"It was fine."

195 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:10:27pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

I'm sure you are following, but her fans are freaking out on the possibility of her running/not running. She's totally twisting their minds.

In some way I think she's going to run because she doesn't want to disappoint her fans. But again, this is The Grifter.

Yeah, she really is the master of Keep 'Em Guessin.

A couple mos ago I was thinking that the press was backing her into a corner, putting her in the spot that if she didn't run, her pitchfork followers would be the ones to turn on her. < -- total speculation, was me having fun

I shouldn't, but part of me thinks it's hilarious, the way she bilks her dumb, bigoted worshipers both for loyalty and for money. I don't like seeing anyone be exploited, though the special-rights-for-bigots crew that makes up the Palin constituency deserves every bit of what she feeds them.

But in her case, imo, it's an orgy of mutual disdain. She let the GOP/RNC exploit her image during the 2008 campaign.

She got back at them by letting the tea party leaders exploit her name, in turn exploiting her followers/worshippers/minions into staying in the GOP instead of going 3rd party, with all of it making her a multimillionaire. And also a kingmaker in 2010.

I still say, it's a mistake to underestimate her. She's made a very successful political career on those who try it. /armchair pundit

(how do I do the trademark thingy?)

If you're on a Mac, [option-2]

196 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:10:29pm

re: #176 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I have found my new crack, and it has a name: Minecraft.

I haven't touched the stuff, myself. I read about it and think, "wow, that sounds tedious as all hell; how can people get addicted to THAT?"

Then I remember that I played Everquest for 3 years and World of Warcraft for 2.

197 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:10:44pm

re: #192 darthstar

Time to check my gratin...see you all in a bit.

All rotton (as we called it as kids)...... food of the gods.

198 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:12:56pm

re: #184 negativ

good god you're right, i was trying to place those eyeballs

199 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:13:43pm

re: #196 negativ

I haven't touched the stuff, myself. I read about it and think, "wow, that sounds tedious as all hell; how can people get addicted to THAT?"

Then I remember that I played Everquest for 3 years and World of Warcraft for 2.

Check out some of the "let's plays" of it on Youtube. That's how I ended up getting interested enough to buy it.

200 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:14:36pm

re: #198 SpaceJesus

good god you're right, i was trying to place those eyeballs

She's got Better Davis Charlie Manson eyes...

201 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:14:58pm

Off topic in another direction...

Hey, SanFranciscoZionist, this is about four topics back, but it looks like every hardware store in San Francisco recycles compact fluorescent bulbs. Check this site for a store near you: [Link: search.earth911.com...]

202 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:15:53pm

re: #180 Gus 802

My name is Jim "Dim" Hoft, and I have no penis whatsoever!

203 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:16:15pm

re: #194 sod

I've heard the dreaded:

"It was fine."

I've heard the (dreaded?):

"It was better than the last guy, anyway."

204 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:18:38pm

re: #203 Slumbering Behemoth

I've heard the (dreaded?):

"It was better than the last guy, anyway."

Well, at least you got some. I think.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:19:52pm

re: #201 C1nnabar

Off topic in another direction...

Hey, SanFranciscoZionist, this is about four topics back, but it looks like every hardware store in San Francisco recycles compact fluorescent bulbs. Check this site for a store near you: [Link: search.earth911.com...]

Alas, I live in Contra Costa County at the moment...but I guess I could see if the Ace Hardware down on San Pablo does it.

Thanks!

206 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:21:19pm

re: #178 negativ

I'd pay a small but non-zero amount of money to sift through the berserk fan mail she must receive. People are insane. High-profile people tend to attract lunatics (Jodie Foster, David Letterman, Bjork, John Lennon, among many others) and I would be shocked if Sarah Palin didn't have at least one Number One Fan she'd rather not have.

FW I've read, they've had to take out a restraining order on at least one. Another disturbed male social con sick f-ck. [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

207 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:23:49pm

The more I play with google+ the more I think I like it.

208 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:24:51pm

re: #207 JasonA

The more I play with google+ the more I think I like it.

Watch it...... you'll grow hair on your palms.

209 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:25:39pm

re: #208 Mr Pancakes

Watch it... you'll grow hair on your palms.

Oh it's far too late for that...

210 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:26:48pm

re: #195 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I still say, it's a mistake to underestimate her. She's made a very successful political career on those who try it. /armchair pundit

It would be kinda fun to see her rise up late in the game -- just like in every 80s slasher flick where the killer seems to be dead, so the heroine picks up the phone and calls Dr. Loomis and nouhOH GOD HE'S STILL ALIVE AAIIIEEEE!

211 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:27:27pm

re: #208 Mr Pancakes

Watch it... you'll grow hair on your palms.

That's what razors are for.

What?

Oh, all right, "also for". Sheesh.

212 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:28:21pm

re: #208 Mr Pancakes

I've done some exhaustive research on the subject, and have determined that hypothesis to be false. It is possible that blindness might be a side affect, but not very probable. My declining eyesight could simply be due to a pre-existing condition and the aging process.

More research is needed to determine if it makes Baby Jesus cry and/or kill kittens.

213 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:29:01pm

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

I've done some exhaustive research on the subject, and have determined that hypothesis to be false. It is possible that blindness might be a side affect, but not very probable. My declining eyesight could simply be due to a pre-existing condition and the aging process.

More research is needed to determine if it makes Baby Jesus cry and/or kill kittens.

More research! More research!

214 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:31:40pm

re: #210 negativ

It would be kinda fun to see her rise up late in the game -- just like in every 80s slasher flick where the killer seems to be dead, so the heroine picks up the phone and calls Dr. Loomis and nouhOH GOD HE'S STILL ALIVE AAIIIEEE!

Well, really...would anyone be surprised if she did?

Funny you should mention Dr. Loomis, I was at a BBQ last w/e and we got on the topic of horror films so of course Halloween came up (I'm a major fan!)

215 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:32:04pm

re: #207 JasonA

The more I play with google+ the more I think I like it.

I've been Google's prison beeotch since the days when THIS was their entire operation, and yet they won't let me play with their new toys. Not that I need it or would even use it, as I have no "friends" nor any family I'd care to Internet-socialize with. BUT STILL.

216 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:32:54pm

re: #47 Spocomptonite

Mesoamerican Ballgame

It's a full-contact basketball game that doubles as a mystery play re-enacted the fundamental motion of the cosmos. Also, no chance of contract negotiations spoiling the season. What's not to like?

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:34:19pm

re: #213 Mr Pancakes

I need to carbo-load before the next research trials. Right now I'm spent.
/

218 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:39:53pm

re: #215 negativ

I've been Google's prison beeotch since the days when THIS was their entire operation, and yet they won't let me play with their new toys. Not that I need it or would even use it, as I have no "friends" nor any family I'd care to Internet-socialize with. BUT STILL.

Oh, damn, that was the kind of thing I wanted to do in IT. Instead I got to help stupid lawyers get their floppy disk with the only copy of an important filing out of a CDROM drive. I'm glad to no longer be in IT.

Damn it, I want a LispM & I want worse to not be better.

(anyone here tonight get that one?)

219 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:40:51pm

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

I need to carbo-load before the next research trials. Right now I'm spent.
/

Here's a carbo laden video for you SB.

220 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:41:20pm

re: #214 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, really...would anyone be surprised if she did?

Funny you should mention Dr. Loomis, I was at a BBQ last w/e and we got on the topic of horror films so of course Halloween came up (I'm a major fan!)

I SHOT HIM SIX TIMES! I SHOT HIM SIX TIMES!!

One of the few things my parents did right was letting me watch HBO without restriction in the late 70s and early 80s. I watched sooooo many excellent and shitty movies. When those tiny little HBO program schedules came in the mail, it was like Christmas every time.

221 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:41:23pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

Thankfully, this controversy may give other candidates the room they need to not sign. Other than Romney, that is. He won't sign because he's not putting much into Iowa. His early stand is going to be New Hampshire, which makes sense for him. He's got very high name recognition there, it's a primary instead of a caucus, and the state GOP is not wingnut-dominated.

222 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:43:32pm

re: #220 negativ

Back when HBO came over an antenna.

223 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:44:06pm

re: #222 Amory Blaine

Back when HBO came over an antenna.

It did? Man I don't remember that.

224 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:44:21pm

OT Drive-by post:

Something's got the winguts all riled up—I'm not sure what. I've blocked 3 new followers in the past hour, so if you have a Twitter account, you might want to be proactive in blocking in order to avoid having to clean up any spewey messes later.

225 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:46:25pm

publicityStunted, now that I see you nic I'm reminded that I wanted to send you my list. Give me 10-15 minutes and I'll do that.

226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:46:48pm

re: #220 negativ

They used to have strip tease, nude burlesque, and nude chorus line stuff on friday and saturday nights back then.

Those were the days.

227 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:49:31pm

re: #224 CuriousLurker

Boehner blinked, and they have to wait 'til monday to get their talking points/marching orders from Lord Limbaugh and the like.

Their gonna be squirrelly 'til then.

228 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:50:53pm

re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth

They used to have strip tease, nude burlesque, and nude chorus line stuff on friday and saturday nights back then.

Those were the days.

First music video I ever saw was in between movies on HBO a long time ago.
The Buggles "Video Killed The Radio Star" and despite the co-incidence, it was two years before MTV. Blew my teen aged mind into the next year.

229 Gus  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:50:58pm

Good night.

230 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:51:21pm

re: #227 Slumbering Behemoth

Boehner blinked, and they have to wait 'til monday to get their talking points/marching orders from Lord Limbaugh and the like.

Their gonna be squirrelly 'til then.

Yeah, I'm thinking it must be that. And they're probably not too happy about the retraction of the slavery thing either. Ugh.

231 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:51:47pm

re: #227 Slumbering Behemoth

Their gonna be squirrelly 'til then.

Aw, damnit!

232 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:51:56pm

re: #224 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by post:

Something's got the winguts all riled up—I'm not sure what. I've blocked 3 new followers in the past hour, so if you have a Twitter account, you might want to be proactive in blocking in order to avoid having to clean up any spewey messes later.

What were the hater's nics? The reason, BTW, might be that Dorkus is riled up today. He just fixated on Killgore's #42 on this thread, so he may be sending out his winged monkey's to spew at us lizards,

233 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:52:14pm

re: #227 Slumbering Behemoth

Boehner blinked, and they have to wait 'til monday to get their talking points/marching orders from Lord Limbaugh and the like.

Their gonna be squirrelly 'til then.

The Sunday morning talk shows will be a hoot because no one will want to say anything Boss Hog says they have to take back. A pool on how many get stung?

234 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:54:15pm

re: #224 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by post:

Something's got the winguts all riled up—I'm not sure what. I've blocked 3 new followers in the past hour, so if you have a Twitter account, you might want to be proactive in blocking in order to avoid having to clean up any spewey messes later.

Twitter.... is that the social networks where you post stuff like:

"Took a shower this morning, very refreshing but I need a new shower head. I say that every time I take a shwr."

"Cooked up some eggs and bacon... very tasty, The yolks were runy so I diped my toast in them. Noticed some of the wht was runy yuk.

Petted the cat.... he purred and then horked a furball on the floor.

Wife came home stepped on the furball...... I acted surprised.

Canceled Twitter account.

235 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:57:04pm

re: #228 wlewisiii

First music video I ever saw was in between movies on HBO a long time ago.
The Buggles "Video Killed The Radio Star" and despite the co-incidence, it was two years before MTV. Blew my teen aged mind into the next year.

236 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:57:59pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

They're mosquitoes that are wannabe Morlocks.

"To Morlocks, as Morlocks are to Eloi"

237 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:58:44pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

[Video]

That was actually the first video on MTV.

238 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:59:09pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

I considered looking it up, but I've got Ida Maria playing right now and she's far more interesting than Trevor ever was :D

239 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:59:50pm

re: #237 Mr Pancakes

Thus my crack about seeing it two years before then. ;)

240 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 8:59:53pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

What were the hater's nics? The reason, BTW, might be that Dorkus is riled up today. He just fixated on Killgore's #42 on this thread, so he may be sending out his winged monkey's to spew at us lizards,

I blocked most of them a long time ago and I don't deal with them anyway. These were just like garden variety wingnuts spewing the usual sharia-loving-liberals-are-evil-jealous-destroying-America and ODS bullshit.

@RightTroll
@TexasTea10th
@OPED35

241 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:00:01pm

re: #236 Slumbering Behemoth

They're mosquitoes that are wannabe Morlocks.

"To Morlocks, as Morlocks are to Eloi"

One of the best rotating titles here, and still true.

242 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:00:56pm

re: #239 wlewisiii

Thus my crack about seeing it two years before then. ;)

Got ya...... I've been drinking Bud

243 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:01:38pm

re: #234 Mr Pancakes

Twitter... is that the social networks where you post stuff like:

"Took a shower this morning, very refreshing but I need a new shower head. I say that every time I take a shwr."

"Cooked up some eggs and bacon... very tasty, The yolks were runy so I diped my toast in them. Noticed some of the wht was runy yuk.

Petted the cat... he purred and then horked a furball on the floor.

Wife came home stepped on the furball... I acted surprised.

Canceled Twitter account.

Yeah, except for the times when wingnuts are vomiting invective at you. In between those two extremes, it's actually kinda enjoyable.

244 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:02:07pm

re: #240 CuriousLurker

I blocked most of them a long time ago and I don't deal with them anyway. These were just like garden variety wingnuts spewing the usual sharia-loving-liberals-are-evil-jealous-destroying -America and ODS bullshit.

@RightTroll
@TexasTeaBagger
@ODS35

Nics changed for accuracy and humor.

245 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:02:30pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

One of my personal favorites, anyway. Rolls off the tongue nicely.

246 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:03:36pm

re: #243 CuriousLurker

Yeah, except for the times when wingnuts are vomiting invective at you. In between those two extremes, it's actually kinda enjoyable.

I got all that stuff out of my system on Usenet 15 years ago.

247 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:05:39pm

re: #242 Mr Pancakes

Got ya... I've been drinking Bud

You have my sympathy. I'll crack another New Glarus for you.

248 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:05:49pm

re: #222 Amory Blaine

Back when HBO came over an antenna.

My dad had an employee who was a for-real MacGuyver type, and built cable de-scrambler boxes using parts from Radio Shack. So, we illegally watched cable for a couple of years until the cable company changed something and they didn't work anymore. Woo, almost like the Gottis, amirite?

Historical note: In the early 80s there was something called "The Playboy Channel" on which you could sometimes see a show called "Electric Blue". Imagine vaguely European-scented softcore porn presented in the manner of "Entertainment Tonight", and that will give you a fair approximation.

249 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:05:53pm

Any updates on the Japan earthquake?

What a range of emotions those poor people have gone through today!

The high of their womens soccer team beating the presumptive favorites in The World Cup, followed only hours later with yet another 7.1 quake

250 labman57  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:06:53pm

Translation: We apologize if any of you whiney, unAmerican left wingers took exception to our honest assessment regarding the merits of a society wherein blacks are chattel and white Christians rule the roost.

However, we still hate f*ggots, and so all references to our social intolerance toward that abomination known as homosexuality will remain.

251 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:07:22pm

Too late for Bachmann and Santorum. The original language was in the document they originally signed. Shame to see two such upstanding conservative candidates weighed down by this, right? (hehe)

[Not that there isn't plenty of objectionable nonsense still in the document....]

252 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:07:32pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

Nics changed for accuracy and humor.

LOL, perfect!

253 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:11:30pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

[Video]

If anyone is a "Yes" fan...... Jon Anderson (their well known falsetto vocalist) left before they made an album called Drama.

He was replaced by the Buggles...... Trevor Horn of the Buggles sounded just like Jon.....

254 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:12:08pm

re: #247 wlewisiii

You have my sympathy. I'll crack another New Glarus for you.

What was that? A neener neener?

255 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:12:16pm

re: #242 Mr Pancakes

Sex in a canoe, you say?

256 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:12:18pm

re: #240 CuriousLurker

@RightTroll
@TexasTea10th
@OPED35

The one I've bolded sounds like a euphemism for a beverage with unbelievably nasty consequences. Especially if one drinks ten of them o_O

257 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:12:21pm

re: #253 Mr Pancakes

If anyone is a "Yes" fan... Jon Anderson (their well known falsetto vocalist) left before they made an album called Drama.

He was replaced by the Buggles... Trevor Horn of the Buggles sounded just like Jon...

[Video]

Yes

258 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:14:20pm

re: #234 Mr Pancakes

Twitter... is that the social networks where you post stuff like:

"Took a shower this morning, very refreshing but I need a new shower head. I say that every time I take a shwr."

"Cooked up some eggs and bacon... very tasty, The yolks were runy so I diped my toast in them. Noticed some of the wht was runy yuk.

Petted the cat... he purred and then horked a furball on the floor.

Wife came home stepped on the furball... I acted surprised.

Canceled Twitter account.

You've been using Twitter the WRONGEST way possible, then.

I used to just KNOW down deep in my bones that what you describe was the essence of Twitter.

I was wrong. It is by no means some kind of Utopian digital paradise, but once you figure out how to use it and how many grains of salt to take it with, it can be insanely brilliant.

That said, I will stone-cold shank a beeotch who uses the word "tweet" in my presence.

259 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:14:22pm

I would just like to congratulate sattv4u2 for achieving the Golden Annoyance Award for filling in all 10 bottom comments. Well played!

260 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:15:51pm

re: #259 austin_blue

I would just like to congratulate sattv4u2 for achieving the Golden Annoyance Award for filling in all 10 bottom comments. Well played!

{bows}

over a very innocuous comment, I may add

Stating that I hate extremists no matter what ilk!

:)

261 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:16:18pm

re: #258 negativ

You've been using Twitter the WRONGEST way possible, then.

I used to just KNOW down deep in my bones that what you describe was the essence of Twitter.

I was wrong. It is by no means some kind of Utopian digital paradise, but once you figure out how to use it and how many grains of salt to take it with, it can be insanely brilliant.

That said, I will stone-cold shank a beeotch who uses the word "tweet" in my presence.

I hear ya.... I was being over dramatic..... it just doesn't interest me.

262 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:17:31pm

re: #260 sattv4u2

{bows}

over a very innocuous comment, I may add

Stating that I hate extremists no matter what ilk!

:)

I hate extremists who hate extremists for hating extremists.

263 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:18:53pm

re: #259 austin_blue

I would just like to congratulate sattv4u2 for achieving the Golden Annoyance Award for filling in all 10 bottom comments. Well played!

I've gotten that award before..... bows.

264 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:19:02pm

re: #249 sattv4u2

Any updates on the Japan earthquake?

What a range of emotions those poor people have gone through today!

The high of their womens soccer team beating the presumptive favorites in The World Cup, followed only hours later with yet another 7.1 quake

It's because their country is shaped like a dragon. God hates that shit.
/

265 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:19:30pm

Thats pretty extreme !

266 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:20:31pm

re: #265 sattv4u2

Thats pretty extreme !

dammit,,, REDO

267 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:20:44pm

re: #262 Mr Pancakes

I hate extremists who hate extremists for hating extremists.

Thats pretty extreme !

268 labman57  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:20:54pm

Meanwhile, Bachmann continues to defend the entire pledge document, including its shocking claims regarding the merits of the lifestyle of black families in the pre-Civil War south. Because after all, she's doing God's work and is therefore incapable of making a mistake.

269 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:21:32pm

re: #250 labman57

However, we still hate f*ggots, and so all references to our social intolerance toward that abomination known as homosexuality will remain.

Funny, but with all the religious right's fear mongering over the "gay agenda", gay marriage, and "homosexual indoctrination in our public schools", why is it that no one has mentioned that Jesuse had two dads?

270 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:21:39pm

re: #264 Slumbering Behemoth

It's because their country is shaped like a dragon. God hates that shit.
/

I'd give it 24 hours,,,, we still don;t know what extent the damage/ death/ injuries are

just sayin

271 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:22:28pm

Off to watch a movie ya knuckleheads..........

Goodnight

272 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:23:03pm

re: #256 publicityStunted

The one I've bolded sounds like a euphemism for a beverage with unbelievably nasty consequences. Especially if one drinks ten of them o_O

One more just rolled in: @RowesPlace

273 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:23:11pm

re: #271 Mr Pancakes

Off to watch a movie ya knuckleheads...

Goodnight

I'm with ya

maybe I'll go get some work done now that I'm at work

274 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:23:14pm

re: #248 negativ

My dad had an employee who was a for-real MacGuyver type, and built cable de-scrambler boxes using parts from Radio Shack. So, we illegally watched cable for a couple of years until the cable company changed something and they didn't work anymore. Woo, almost like the Gottis, amirite?

Historical note: In the early 80s there was something called "The Playboy Channel" on which you could sometimes see a show called "Electric Blue". Imagine vaguely European-scented softcore porn presented in the manner of "Entertainment Tonight", and that will give you a fair approximation.

We used to have this one channel called Selectv that was HBOs competitor. It came on after a broadcast channel in town went off the air at night. The scramble box had a key on it to turn it on. That's when I saw The Shining. Good movie.

275 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:24:18pm

re: #253 Mr Pancakes

If anyone is a "Yes" fan... Jon Anderson (their well known falsetto vocalist) left before they made an album called Drama.

He was replaced by the Buggles... Trevor Horn of the Buggles sounded just like Jon...

[Video]

Imagine that this reply features a lot of stuff about John Wetton, Trevor Rabin, Bill Bruford, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, Robert Fripp, Gentle Giant, the League of Crafty Guitarists, Allan Holdsworth, and a band called "U.K."

Thereafter, get off my lawn (shakes walking cane in a menacing manner)

276 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:24:48pm

re: #270 sattv4u2

I'd give it 24 hours,,, we still don;t know what extent the damage/ death/ injuries are

just sayin

Fair enough. But tell that Cindy Jacobs sea-word to shove it while you're at it. Or not.

277 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:25:53pm

re: #273 sattv4u2

I'm with ya

maybe I'll go get some work done now that I'm at work

Heh. Yet you have the nerve to tell someone else they have too much time on their hands. You truly do awe me some times.

278 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:26:32pm

re: #277 JasonA

Heh. Yet you have the nerve to tell someone else they have too much time on their hands. You truly do awe me some times.

huh!?!?!

279 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:26:44pm

re: #260 sattv4u2

{bows}

over a very innocuous comment, I may add

Stating that I hate extremists no matter what ilk!

:)

Well, we are all extremists, now, aren't we?

(I have no idea if I should a sark tag, a smiley face , or a wink here.)

280 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:27:01pm

re: #278 sattv4u2

Last night.

281 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:27:15pm

re: #262 Mr Pancakes

I hate extremists who hate extremists for hating extremists.

ALL EXTREMISTS SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND EXECUTED, NO EXCEPTIONS.

282 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:27:23pm

re: #280 JasonA

Last night.

Okay ,, again ,, HUH !?!?

283 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:27:59pm

re: #279 austin_blue

Well, we are all extremists, now, aren't we?

(I have no idea if I should a sark tag, a smiley face , or a wink here.)

You can never lose with one of these:

t("t)

Especially if you're going for the extremist angle.

284 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:31:05pm

re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth

You can never lose with one of these:

t("t)

*embarrassed to admit I have no idea what that is*

...then again, do I want to know?

285 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:32:08pm

re: #268 labman57

Meanwhile, Bachmann continues to defend the entire pledge document, including its shocking claims regarding the merits of the lifestyle of black families in the pre-Civil War south. Because after all, she's doing God's work and is therefore incapable of making a mistake.

Apparently it refers to children at one point as 'the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy'. One of Ta-Nehisi Coates' commenters feels that it may be a positive sign that Michele is now signing on to protect innocent fruits.

286 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:32:15pm

re: #282 sattv4u2

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

287 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:33:25pm

re: #281 negativ

ALL EXTREMISTS SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND EXECUTED, NO EXCEPTIONS.

Suit yourself. [draws .45]


/I am entirely kidding. I wish no harm on anyone on LGF.

288 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:35:25pm

re: #286 JasonA

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

A),, that was this morning, not "last night", hence my confusion
B) ,, it was a sarcastic remark to the poster for spending so much time/effort on [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
DURING
C) a light moment with Lizards bantering about the merits/ negatives about SELF CHECK OUT LINES

But thanks for remembering!

289 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:35:38pm

re: #274 Amory Blaine

We used to have this one channel called Selectv that was HBOs competitor. It came on after a broadcast channel in town went off the air at night. The scramble box had a key on it to turn it on. That's when I saw The Shining. Good movie.

I saw that for the first time on commercial, network television, on what would eventually become the local Fox affiliate. It was 1980-81, I was nine or ten years old, and it was completely uncensored. Yes, even the old lady in the shower uncensored. That's how network television used to roll in my hood. It was awesome.

290 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:35:58pm

Time to go for the night. I've got beer, whiskey & Quantum of Solace to cover the rest of this night. Take care, all.

291 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:36:34pm

re: #288 sattv4u2


But thanks for remembering!

No problem, buddy.

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:37:50pm

re: #284 publicityStunted

*embarrassed to admit I have no idea what that is*

...then again, do I want to know?

It's not "dirty", just a little "naughty". I could spoil it for you and let you know what it is, or I could simply say "when you see it, you can't un-see it". Which would you prefer?

293 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:40:21pm

re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth

You can never lose with one of these:

t("t)

Especially if you're going for the extremist angle.

I can't figure it out. The Google, it is useless.

294 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:41:32pm

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

I wish no harm on anyone on LGF.

Oh, come on. Let's harm each other. Just a little. Nobody has to know.

295 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:42:00pm

re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth

It's not "dirty", just a little "naughty". I could spoil it for you and let you know what it is, or I could simply say "when you see it, you can't un-see it". Which would you prefer?

As a young boy, after accidentally seeing my (at the time) 82 y/o grandmother naked from the waist up, I choose UN-seen

296 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:43:06pm

re: #293 JasonA

I can't figure it out. The Google, it is useless.

It's probably some kind of furry code...best to let it pass not comprehended.

297 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:44:10pm

re: #295 sattv4u2

As a young boy, after accidentally seeing my (at the time) 82 y/o grandmother naked from the waist up, I choose UN-seen

Ha! It is no where near that level of... well, whatever that is.

It's not that you'll want to "un-see" it, it's just that you won't be able to.

Oh, and my condolences.

298 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:44:37pm

OMG, first shit hitting the fan with the 13 year old, a kid named Tristan, and her dad. Current arguing through the closed bedroom door.

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:44:45pm

re: #296 darthstar

It's probably some kind of furry code...best to let it pass not comprehended.

Fuck. You. You are dead to me.
///

300 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:45:02pm

So..I've been in Oklahoma for about 6 months..right?
I've been through a full blown blizzard...My car encased in Ice and having 2 days of food when I should have a weeks worth..That sucked
Tornadoes in Ok..What hell that was...Remember when I got a top 10 comment with the tornado 6 minutes away? You guys are sick..
We are in a heat wave right now...101 to 110 every effening day..
The weather is crazy here

301 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:46:02pm

re: #297 Slumbering Behemoth

Ha! It is no where near that level of... well, whatever that is.

It's not that you'll want to "un-see" it, it's just that you won't be able to.

Oh, and my condolences.

Actually, I've got this bat here that'll make you forget it. I just need to hit you on the head with the bat.

/again kidding.

302 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:47:31pm

re: #300 HoosierHoops

So..I've been in Oklahoma for about 6 months..right?
I've been through a full blown blizzard...My car encased in Ice and having 2 days of food when I should have a weeks worth..That sucked
Tornadoes in Ok..What hell that was...Remember when I got a top 10 comment with the tornado 6 minutes away? You guys are sick..
We are in a heat wave right now...101 to 110 every effening day..
The weather is crazy here

quitchyabitchin'
/

303 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:50:02pm

This ain't gonna be easy.

304 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:50:08pm

Okay. It's not furry code, or a secret Illuminaughty symbol. Picture if you will, a little Pac-Man type character flipping you the double bird.

t("t)

Now, you won't un-see it.

305 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:52:48pm

re: #304 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay. It's not furry code, or a secret Illuminaughty symbol. Picture if you will, a little Pac-Man type character flipping you the double bird.

t("t)

Now, you won't un-see it.

Ah! Got it!

306 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:53:47pm

re: #289 Slumbering Behemoth

I saw that for the first time on commercial, network television, on what would eventually become the local Fox affiliate. It was 1980-81, I was nine or ten years old, and it was completely uncensored. Yes, even the old lady in the shower uncensored. That's how network television used to roll in my hood. It was awesome.

"It's okay, Mom. I saw it on the television." "See? It's alright. He saw it on the television."

307 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:53:55pm

re: #299 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuck. You. You are dead to me.
///

Aw...that's not nice...I used to be hip to all the code. I know what :) means and :-p and even LOL, but t("t) needs some kind of explanation besides "pac man"...

308 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:54:14pm

re: #305 JasonA

Ah! Got it!

Seems anti-climactic, doesn't it?

309 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:54:42pm

re: #305 JasonA

Ah! Got it!

Great...now explain it.

310 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:55:33pm

re: #304 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay. It's not furry code, or a secret Illuminaughty symbol. Picture if you will, a little Pac-Man type character flipping you the double bird.

t("t)

Now, you won't un-see it.

Ha, that's great :) But definitely not something I'd ever need to "un-see" (as opposed to, say, Newt Gingrich sex videos or Santorum).

311 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:56:15pm

'Nite, scaly ones.

312 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:56:49pm

re: #309 darthstar

Great...now explain it.

The quotation marks are eye. The parentheses form the body. Each t is an arm, bent at the elbow and giving the finger.

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:58:19pm

re: #307 darthstar

The lower case t's are the arms, bending upwards and culminating into two middle finger salutes. The parentheses form the Pac-Man like body, while the single quotation mark serves as its eyes.

t("t)

314 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:58:35pm

re: #312 JasonA

The quotation marks are eye. The parentheses form the body. Each t is an arm, bent at the elbow and giving the finger.

"his" left "arm" is sticking out of the middle of 'his" stomach!?!?!?!

315 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:59:04pm

Goodnight, all.

316 Kragar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:59:10pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

The lower case t's are the arms, bending upwards and culminating into two middle finger salutes. The parentheses form the Pac-Man like body, while the single quotation mark serves as its eyes.

t("t)

( o )

317 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:59:23pm

re: #309 darthstar

Great...now explain it.


May I have a seat next to you on the ClueLess Bench!?!?

318 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:59:34pm

re: #310 publicityStunted

Ha, that's great :) But definitely not something I'd ever need to "un-see" (as opposed to, say, Newt Gingrich sex videos or Santorum).

I never meant to say that you'd want to un-see it, just that you won't be able to. Use it in good health.

319 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:59:53pm

re: #312 JasonA

The quotation marks are eye. The parentheses form the body. Each t is an arm, bent at the elbow and giving the finger.

Well, that's not very creative. My symbol %^&*$% makes more sense...the percent signs are elves, the ampersand a hobbit, the up-carat a wizard, the dollar sign a magnet and the asterisk is an asterisk. It means "beetlejuice" when read aloud.

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:00:11pm

re: #316 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

( o )

That may represent yours, but mind looks more like this:

(*)

321 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:00:43pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Pac Man has no arms.

322 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:00:55pm

re: #320 Slumbering Behemoth

That may represent yours, but mind looks more like this:

(*)

Now that's funny.

323 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:01:23pm

re: #312 JasonA

The quotation marks are eye. The parentheses form the body. Each t is an arm, bent at the elbow and giving the finger.

For you.

324 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:01:33pm

re: #319 darthstar

Well, that's not very creative. My symbol %^&*$% makes more sense...the percent signs are elves, the ampersand a hobbit, the up-carat a wizard, the dollar sign a magnet and the asterisk is an asterisk. It means "beetlejuice" when read aloud.

&(*@&^^@*(_)E&&$)@_+*$)_@


know what I'm sayin!?!?!

325 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:02:17pm

re: #324 sattv4u2

&(*@&^^@*(_)E&&$)@_+*$)_@

know what I'm sayin!?!?!

I always know what you're saying.

326 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:02:56pm

re: #314 sattv4u2

"his" left "arm" is sticking out of the middle of 'his" stomach!?!?!?!

No, this is not ancient Egyptian art.

327 Kragar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:03:13pm

re: #320 Slumbering Behemoth

That may represent yours, but mind looks more like this:

(*)

( ; )

328 darthstar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:03:35pm

re: #327 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

( ; )

Hung like a comma, I see.

329 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:04:21pm

re: #322 darthstar

Now that's funny.

Typos are funny. No, it was not intentional. Lampoon away!

330 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:04:31pm

re: #325 darthstar

I always know what you're saying.

I'm glad one of us does

331 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:09:50pm

re: #308 Slumbering Behemoth

Seems anti-climactic, doesn't it?

No takers? Fine, I'll do it.

332 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:12:17pm

re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist

Looks like there are lots of places in the East Bay as well (which is where I live too). You can search for your specific city (and what you want to recycle) on that site.

Too bad we can't recycle wingnuts....

333 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:13:10pm

re: #253 Mr Pancakes

If anyone is a "Yes" fan... Jon Anderson (their well known falsetto vocalist) left before they made an album called Drama.

He was replaced by the Buggles... Trevor Horn of the Buggles sounded just like Jon...

[Video]

I remember Drama.

Trevor Horn, fbofw, ... one of the prime architects of 80s pop production and instrumentation.

Nobody else like him, fbofw, on earth.

334 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:15:39pm

re: #321 darthstar

Pac Man has no arms.

LIAR!!! BLASPHEMER!!!

335 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:17:39pm

re: #281 negativ

ALL EXTREMISTS SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND EXECUTED, NO EXCEPTIONS.

re: #262 Mr Pancakes

I hate extremists who hate extremists for hating extremists.

Well, that's not very tolerant. I thought you libs were so tolerant.

WHY AREN'T YOU BEING TOLERANT OF MY INTOLERANCE!!

336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:19:10pm

re: #335 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I am tolerant of intolerance, and intolerant of tolerance.

Fuck. What do I do now?

337 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:20:43pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

The lower case t's are the arms, bending upwards and culminating into two middle finger salutes. The parentheses form the Pac-Man like body, while the single quotation mark serves as its eyes.

t("t)

338 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:21:17pm

re: #274 Amory Blaine

We used to have this one channel called Selectv that was HBOs competitor. It came on after a broadcast channel in town went off the air at night. The scramble box had a key on it to turn it on. That's when I saw The Shining. Good movie.

Southern CA?

Competitor was OnTV. Infamous for scrambled porn.

339 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:22:22pm

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth

I am tolerant of intolerance, and intolerant of tolerance.

Fuck. What do I do now?

Vote Republican [Link: instantrimshot.com...]

340 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:24:01pm
341 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:26:27pm

re: #269 Slumbering Behemoth

Funny, but with all the religious right's fear mongering over the "gay agenda", gay marriage, and "homosexual indoctrination in our public schools", why is it that no one has mentioned that Jesuse had two dads?

And one of them was....himself!

342 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:28:18pm
343 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:31:02pm

re: #275 negativ

Imagine that this reply features a lot of stuff about John Wetton, Trevor Rabin, Bill Bruford, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, Robert Fripp, Gentle Giant, the League of Crafty Guitarists, Allan Holdsworth, and a band called "U.K."

[Video]Thereafter, get off my lawn (shakes walking cane in a menacing manner)

This song has been in my head all day and I cannot get it out. I think I'm going to have to start posting one HIGH-DRAMA 80s KEYBOARDS YOUTUBE a day.

344 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:31:36pm

re: #341 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Best not to mention that part, lest people get the idea it's bullshit.

345 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:38:47pm

re: #343 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I think I'm going to have to start posting one HIGH-DRAMA 80s KEYBOARDS YOUTUBE a day.

You do, and I'll choice but to go nuke-you-ler.

346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:41:54pm

Ahem, "have no" should be in there somewhere. Not a funny typo.

347 albusteve  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:46:37pm

same old shit I see

348 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:47:59pm

re: #345 Slumbering Behemoth

You do, and I'll choice but to go nuke-you-ler.

[Video]

Overblown Keys vs the Marshall Stacks, yr on!

349 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:48:51pm

re: #347 albusteve

same old shit I see

Only difference is the millennium.

350 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:49:59pm

re: #349 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Only difference is the millennium.

Yeah the abacus is pretty nifty theses days.

351 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 10:58:16pm

re: #348 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Dear gravel, what have you done? Have you no conscience?

I must deploy the ultimate pallet cleanser...

352 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:19:38pm

re: #351 Slumbering Behemoth

Dear gravel, what have you done? Have you no conscience?

I must deploy the ultimate pallet cleanser...

[Video]

The stacks are gonna lose, you know that, right?

353 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:26:26pm

re: #352 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I'm not gonna hate on Cameo. Much. You need to find something cheezzier.

And LeVar "Reading Rainbow" Burton? Who can hate on that guy?

354 Kragar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:28:03pm

Hey, who doesn't like pop music?

355 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:32:25pm

re: #354 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not what I was expecting, but surprisingly awesome.

Say, have you ever been...

356 Kragar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:36:16pm

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

Not what I was expecting, but surprisingly awesome.

Say, have you ever been...

[Video]

I plead the fifth, but I can dance.

357 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:38:29pm

re: #353 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not gonna hate on Cameo. Much. You need to find something cheezzier.

Stop. Hammer time.

From their "futurist" days, before "Don't You Want Me"

358 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:40:11pm

re: #356 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So you're just a regular, everyday, normal guy?

359 Kragar  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:41:12pm

re: #358 Slumbering Behemoth

So you're just a regular, everyday, normal guy?

[Video]

Pretty much, except for one thing...

360 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:43:42pm

re: #356 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I plead the fifth, but I can dance.

Unlike poor Zanz or Vanz or whatever his name was

361 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:45:01pm

Heh
Richard Dreyfuss dramatic reading of something nobody really reads...

362 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:45:46pm

re: #359 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pretty much, except for one thing...

[Video]

Hey, I can relate

363 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:49:02pm

re: #357 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

From hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.

364 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jul 9, 2011 11:52:45pm

re: #359 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Have you tried not giving a fuck?

365 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:03:00am

re: #364 Slumbering Behemoth

Have you tried not giving a fuck?

[Video]

I'm from the West Coast. That's pretty much what we do.

366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:03:24am

re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth

From hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.

How come the dudes in the stacks try so hard to sound like we of the kb's?

(Rhetorical question. We already know the answer.)

367 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:14:36am

re: #366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

If you think I'm going to defend Whitesnake on any level, or expend a squirt of sweat giving credit to the "Wannabe Pink Floyd for Hipster Kids Who Want To Like Pink Floyd but by Hipster Law Must Hate Their Parent's Music" that is Mars Volta, you have seriously underestimated my metalness.

/Or Marshall Stackness, as you might put it.

368 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:19:17am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

If you think I'm going to defend Whitesnake on any level, or expend a squirt of sweat giving credit to the "Wannabe Pink Floyd for Hipster Kids Who Want To Like Pink Floyd but by Hipster Law Must Hate Their Parent's Music" that is Mars Volta, you have seriously underestimated my metalness.

/Or Marshall Stackness, as you might put it.



Metal is metal is metal.
:P

369 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:25:55am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

If you think I'm going to defend Whitesnake on any level, or expend a squirt of sweat giving credit to the "Wannabe Pink Floyd for Hipster Kids Who Want To Like Pink Floyd but by Hipster Law Must Hate Their Parent's Music" that is Mars Volta, you have seriously underestimated my metalness.

/Or Marshall Stackness, as you might put it.

Whitesnake sucks....... the only thing they had going for them was Tawny Kitaen...... then she got flaky.

370 Kragar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:27:02am
371 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:27:27am

re: #368 laZardo

Damnit LaZ! I go through all the trouble of disliking you, and then you pop up with some funny shit like that.

Yellin' Stuff.

/I don't actually dislike you.

372 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:27:51am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

If you think I'm going to defend Whitesnake on any level, or expend a squirt of sweat giving credit to the "Wannabe Pink Floyd for Hipster Kids Who Want To Like Pink Floyd but by Hipster Law Must Hate Their Parent's Music" that is Mars Volta, you have seriously underestimated my metalness.

/Or Marshall Stackness, as you might put it.

Stacks vs racks, my money's on the racks!

373 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:32:21am

re: #372 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Stacks vs racks, my money's on the racks!

[Video]

Ah.... the other half of the Buggles

374 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:34:09am

re: #370 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A brand of satire that can only come from love and understanding.

375 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:37:01am

re: #373 Mr Pancakes

Ah... the other half of the Buggles

:)

3:20 :

376 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:39:59am

re: #369 Mr Pancakes

Whitesnake sucks... the only thing they had going for them was Tawny Kitaen... then she got flaky.

Actually, Adrian Vandenberg is the best thing that Whitesnake had going for them, dude is a brilliant guitarist

377 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:40:31am

re: #375 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

:)

3:20 :

[Video]

I have their best of..... I quite like Asia and I love John Wetton's vocals..... I just find them a wee bit over-polished.

This one came up in my playlist today and I'm leaving it right where it is.

378 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:40:52am

re: #372 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Fuck it. You leave me no choice but to fight fire with..

I feel so dirty.

379 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:41:19am

re: #377 Mr Pancakes

not really a fan of Asia but I know all their album covers because I'm a massive Roger Dean geek *_*

380 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:42:12am

re: #376 WindUpBird

Actually, Adrian Vandenberg is the best thing that Whitesnake had going for them, dude is a brilliant guitarist

I saw them in concert.... don't get me wrong, they are musicians..... I just don't care for them.

381 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:49:17am

Roger Dean cover........ great forgotten album.......

382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:50:35am

re: #378 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuck it. You leave me no choice but to fight fire with..
[Video]

Speaking of ELO...

383 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:56:15am

re: #378 Slumbering Behemoth

holy. shit. I didn't realize Swan was in that film. Now I feel twice as dirty.

384 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 12:57:16am

re: #376 WindUpBird

Actually, Adrian Vandenberg is the best thing that Whitesnake had going for them, dude is a brilliant guitarist

I liked WS because they weren't afraid to actually sing.

Same for Adrain too. This still holds up, afiac

385 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:01:20am

re: #384 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I liked WS because they weren't afraid to actually sing.

Same for Adrain too. This still holds up, afiac

[Video]

Hee boy....... now we know where Bon Jovi got their inspiration.

386 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:02:16am

re: #377 Mr Pancakes

I have their best of... I quite like Asia and I love John Wetton's vocals... I just find them a wee bit over-polished.

Yeah my series is HIGH-DRAMA KEYBOARD SONGS OF THE 80s, something like that.

So there was no getting around some Geoff Downes, I'm afraid.

387 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:03:37am

re: #386 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah my series is HIGH-DRAMA KEYBOARD SONGS OF THE 80s, something like that.

So there was no getting around some Geoff Downes, I'm afraid.

No...... I like the Buggles..... I had no problem with them going to Yes or Asia at all.

388 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:04:12am

re: #385 Mr Pancakes

Hee boy... now we know where Bon Jovi got their inspiration.

Yeah, I wish I'd have linked to the vinyl version. Video does NOT hold up.

Not in the least. /rotfl

389 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:08:41am

re: #387 Mr Pancakes

No... I like the Buggles... I had no problem with them going to Yes or Asia at all.

How about the Frankie Goes to Hollywood/ABC/Grace Jones/Art of Noise turn?

(It's probably obvious I could not get enough of Trevor H.)

390 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:12:26am

re: #389 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

How about the Frankie Goes to Hollywood/ABC/Grace Jones/Art of Noise turn?

(It's probably obvious I could not get enough of Trevor H.)

Well, I loved and still love the 80's stuff...... I probably liked ABC the most of the ones you mentioned....... but for that style of music I would have chosen Spandau Ballet as my fav.

391 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:18:13am

re: #384 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I liked WS because they weren't afraid to actually sing.

Same for Adrain too. This still holds up, afiac

[Video]

Look what I found in my playlist...... there it will stay.

392 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:25:05am

re: #384 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

In the spirit of love, unity and forgiveness; and the awesomeness that is the film "The Warriors", I offer this.

And on that note...

393 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:29:28am

re: #391 Mr Pancakes

Look what I found in my playlist... there it will stay.

[Video]

Yes! Not afraid to sing...no vocal enhancers, no gimmicks, just some good ol' vocal training.

394 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:34:37am

re: #392 Slumbering Behemoth

In the spirit of love, unity and forgiveness; and the awesomeness that is the film "The Warriors", I offer this.

And on that note...

Dude they used the Tangerine Dream song (Betrayal) from the Sorcerer...... shame shame shame.

395 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 1:47:08am

For those that don't know and want to see an "on the edge of your seat movie"....... watch Sorcerer. It was William Friedkin's next movie after the Exorcist starring Roy Sheider.

It's about a caravan of dilapidated trucks moving highly volatile nitro glycerin across the Amazon for a big pay-off. One of the trucks is named "Sorcerer".

396 Kragar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 2:10:40am

re: #395 Mr Pancakes

For those that don't know and want to see an "on the edge of your seat movie"... watch Sorcerer. It was William Friedkin's next movie after the Exorcist starring Roy Sheider.

It's about a caravan of dilapidated trucks moving highly volatile nitro glycerin across the Amazon for a big pay-off. One of the trucks is named "Sorcerer".

It also had one of the worst opening weeks ever, despite its cast and director.

Had to compete with some scifi movie which had opened the same weekend, called Star Wars.

397 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 2:13:48am

re: #392 Slumbering Behemoth

In the spirit of love, unity and forgiveness; and the awesomeness that is the film "The Warriors", I offer this.

And for you, probably the finest balance of stacks and racks...EVER. In the world.

398 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 2:18:24am

re: #394 Mr Pancakes

Dude they used the Tangerine Dream song (Betrayal) from the Sorcerer... shame shame shame.

[Video]

There's nothing like Oberheims. [Link: www.synthmuseum.com...]

399 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 2:22:24am

re: #86 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The La Brea Tar Pits.

The Los Angeles Angels.

400 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 2:56:11am

re: #1 jamesfirecat

Sorry if we blew the dog whistle so loud that even humans could hear it...

401 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:00:11am

re: #381 Mr Pancakes

Ohmigod, that belonged to my original album collection ca 1973...

402 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:20:52am

Morning Honco(s).

403 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:33:52am
404 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:36:11am

re: #403 Cannadian Club Akbar

Children in the womb are okay because you can control the volume.

405 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:42:32am

re: #404 ralphieboy

Children in the womb are okay because you can control the volume.

My parents had a lot of sex when my mom was pregnant with me. Which is why I'm good at dodge ball.
/

406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:46:08am

re: #403 Cannadian Club Akbar

I might just go there to eat.

I am staring off wistfully in to the ether... A restaurant without children. A restaurant without children.

Sounds delicious.

407 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:51:05am

re: #406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Now hold that image...and then move about forty years into the future - and picture yourself sitting at a table in an old folks' home with no young people on staff to bring you dinner or change your adult diaper.

408 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:51:46am

re: #406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't mind well behaved children or even babies for that matter. But when adults can't control their kids and they're just raising hell, problem. I've actually had to approach people and ask them to calm their kids the fuck down. But in a nicer way.

409 researchok  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:52:20am

Morning, all

410 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:55:36am

re: #407 ralphieboy

Now hold that image...and then move about forty years into the future - and picture yourself sitting at a table in an old folks' home with no young people on staff to bring you dinner or change your adult diaper.

We'll have robots by then. The robots will also taxi us around in our flying cars.

411 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:55:44am

Germany only recently modified its legislation, screaming children used to be considered a source of noise pollution, along with jackhammers and circular saws...

412 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:56:50am

re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar

We'll have robots by then. The robots will also taxi us around in our flying cars.


Self-replicating and self repairing robots, of course.

Who will then have the sentient capacity to ask themselves why they are wasting time tending to geriatric homo sapiens...

413 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:58:01am

re: #412 ralphieboy

Self-replicating and self repairing robots, of course.

Who will then have the sentient capacity to ask themselves why they are wasting time tending to geriatric homo sapiens...

And THAT is when the robot revolution will start. Kinda like now with Luap Nor voters.

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:58:08am

re: #407 ralphieboy

Saw a bumper sticker the other day that said, "Mean People Breed Little Mean People".

It's not going to happen at Denny's, but there are some restaurants that children simply do not belong in. I have purposefully gone restaurants that I thought I'd be safe from the little brats only to be sat right next to the table with four hellions.

And I do not dislike children. Sat in a restaurant once right next to a family with 6 children. They were wonderful little children. Next day the table beside me had one kid... all over the fucking place, mother gave me an exasperated "what are you going to do?" look.

People just do not understand that their children are only special to them.

415 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:58:17am

re: #411 ralphieboy

Germany only recently modified its legislation, screaming children used to be considered a source of noise pollution, along with jackhammers and circular saws...

Screaming children, jackhammers and circular saws is the elevator pitch for next Wes Craven's next series.

416 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 3:58:19am

Zetas And Other Gang Fighting In Mexico Results In At Least 40 Deaths In 24-Hour Period
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]


MEXICO CITY -- Fighting among the Zetas gang and other vicious drug cartels led to the deaths of more than 40 people whose bodies were found in three Mexican cities over a 24-hour span, a government official said Saturday.

At least 20 people were killed and five injured when gunmen opened fire in a bar late Friday in the northern city of Monterrey, where the gang is fighting its former ally, the Gulf Cartel, said federal security spokesman Alejandro Poire.

The ATF issued a statement "No comment, We didn't do it!"//

417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:00:18am

re: #416 RogueOne

Saw this on FB this morning, for some reason, thought of you.


"For those of you who don't like cops, call a crackhead next time your in trouble and see how much help he is."
418 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:01:08am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And I do not dislike children. Sat in a restaurant once right next to a family with 6 children. They were wonderful little children. Next day the table beside me had one kid... all over the fucking place, mother gave me an exasperated "what are you going to do?" look.

When you have six kids, you learn the value (and necessity) of instilling discipline and manners.

419 researchok  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:03:08am

My daughter had 'crydar'.

Whenever she was around other kids, no problem, no matter what.

Whenever she was in a quiet adult environment she would wail as if she were experiencing surgery without anesthesia.

She was especially adept at guerrilla tactics. When some old grand motherly like would comment to my ex about how sweet the child was, my kid would immediately launch into uncontrollable hysteria.

'Crydar'- it's real.

420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:05:08am

re: #418 ralphieboy

The "what are you gonna do mom" was apparently on a date with a guy wearing a camo-t-shirt what had an obscene message. Kid was about three. Kept THROWING is matchbox car at me. I'd hand it back, mom would hand it back to the fucking kid.

I decided to keep the car and give it back later.

My fucking job to parent this fucking kid. Camo-T just sat there.

I'm sure they're married by now.

I fully support that restaurant owners decision. I'm serious. I may go there to eat.

421 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:05:37am

I wonder if crying children was the inspiration for curb side carry out.
/

422 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:06:48am

re: #417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw this on FB this morning, for some reason, thought of you.

Is the crackhead going to show up at your house and shoot your dog?

[Link: www.postandcourier.com...]


JOHNS ISLAND -- Authorities are trying to unravel the case of a Charleston County sheriff's deputy who was called to assist a family last week, but ended up fatally shooting its dog.

or worse yet, shoot you?

Family Suing After Phoenix Cop Shoots Homeowner Instead of Intruder


When Tony Arambula managed to corner an armed intruder in his son's bedroom he expected police to come to his aid.

Instead, a Phoenix police officer confused Arambula for the intruder and shot him six times before realizing his mistake, a moment captured on the 911 call with a simple "F**k."

Even after realizing their mistake, Arambula said he was treated roughly, being dragged out of the house and transported briefly on the hood of a police car.

I'll take my chances with the crackhead. Tell your FB friend I have a million of 'em..."Come at me bro!"

423 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:07:11am

Things were very different when we lived in small tribes of 100-odd individuals and raising kids was a joint effort as the survival of the group depended on having enough healthy offspring.

Our settled nuclear-family lifestyle changed all that, but kids' behavior pretty much remained the same...

424 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:08:26am

re: #422 RogueOne

Link to the 2nd story:
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

doh.

425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:09:11am

re: #419 researchok

Didn't have that problem with my kids, and other than Church, still didn't take them to "quiet adult environments".

My kids never went to funerals, weddings, adult parties, flew in airplanes, or ate in nice restaurants.

I used to tell them, "Your mother and I love you very much. So do your Grandparents. Pretty much everyone else doesn't care if you exist."

426 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:10:25am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Didn't have that problem with my kids, and other than Church, still didn't take them to "quiet adult environments".

My kids never went to funerals, weddings, adult parties, flew in airplanes, or ate in nice restaurants.

I used to tell them, "Your mother and I love you very much. So do your Grandparents. Pretty much everyone else doesn't care if you exist."

EFFING AWESOME!!!!

427 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:10:50am

Dave Chapelle:

"Sometimes we want to call the police too"

428 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:19:31am
429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:21:03am

re: #426 Cannadian Club Akbar

My kids came out pretty well. But I did say things to them that made people... well... kinda freak out.

"The rest of the world doesn't really care if you exist."

"I married your mother, I did not marry you. I want to spend the rest of my life with your mother, I do not want to spend the rest of my life with you. Come and visit now and then, but go away."

My favorite one? "I love you, but I married your mother. I chose your mother. I ended up with you."

Can't you feel the love?

430 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:22:10am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have Hallmark written all over you.

431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:24:36am

re: #428 Cannadian Club Akbar

Children are wonderful gifts from God.

I've eaten beside those fuckin' kids.

432 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:25:34am
433 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:25:40am

I knew early that I didn't want kids, or a disease, so I've been an honorary member of the Trojan board of directors since I was a teen. My spouse knew all of this and was supposed to be fine with it until she changed her mind a few years ago. She has some medical issues that keep her from getting pregnant (which I used to think was a bonus) so, somehow, I've gone from wrapping that rascal to spending almost $18k over the last 3 years trying to help her get pregnant through the modern marvels of science. Sometimes life isn't fair.

434 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:27:47am

re: #433 RogueOne

My friend and her hubby spent 10K trying to produce a child. Didn't work. They kinda gave up. Now they have 2 kids.

435 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:28:48am

re: #434 Cannadian Club Akbar

My friend and her hubby spent 10K trying to produce a child. Didn't work. They kinda gave up. Now they have 2 kids.

Her VERY Catholic father said "I could have told you how to do that"!!!!

436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:28:49am

re: #432 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, eaten beside that kid too.

437 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:29:25am

re: #434 Cannadian Club Akbar

My friend and her hubby spent 10K trying to produce a child. Didn't work. They kinda gave up. Now they have 2 kids.

I tried to sell her on my ex-wifes method, go out drinking with the girls and come home pregnant, but she's not buying it. Seems a lot easier and cheaper to me.

438 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:32:32am

re: #437 RogueOne

I tried to sell her on my ex-wifes method, go out drinking with the girls and come home pregnant, but she's not buying it. Seems a lot easier and cheaper to me.

Buy her a turkey baster for Christmas. Just stare at her when she opens it. See if she gets the joke.

439 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:34:20am

"We'll take four vials of sperm and the Jodie Foster knuckle applicator".
-Family Guy

440 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:35:35am

re: #438 Cannadian Club Akbar

Buy her a turkey baster for Christmas. Just stare at her when she opens it. See if she gets the joke.

That was actually step 1. She'd take a fresh "sample" and hurry to her gyno who would use basically that exact method. Her gyno is an attractive lady. My suggestion of letting the doctor get it straight from the source was shot down.

441 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:36:54am

Most of the time my wife doesn't think I'm very funny. I was just trying to take one for the team!

442 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:37:01am

re: #440 RogueOne

"Hey Doc, ya got a little on your chin there".
/

443 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:37:03am

Christine O'Donnell disapproves.

444 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:39:14am

I often wondered how Michael Jackson mamged to father children:

"Now, there's a good boy, go spit that out between the nice lady's legs ..."

445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:39:55am

re: #444 ralphieboy

Oh...

446 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:40:11am

re: #444 ralphieboy

a joke like that on a sunday morning? You will surely burn.

447 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:42:01am

re: #446 RogueOne

a joke like that on a sunday morning? You will surely burn.

Meh, bring on the Hellfire!

448 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:43:20am

There are people out there who want to join this blog. I'm betting they are having second thoughts after this mornings conversation.

449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:44:36am

Going to visit my invisible best friend. See y'all later.

450 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:45:32am

Time for me to get to work. You guys try to clean up the conversation a little. Enjoy the day folks!

451 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:46:11am

re: #450 RogueOne

Time for me to get to work. You guys try to clean up the conversation a little. Enjoy the day folks!

*Crashes manure truck into Rogue's house*

452 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:50:30am

re: #448 Cannadian Club Akbar

There are people out there who want to join this blog. I'm betting they are having second thoughts THERE ARE EVEN MORE after this mornings conversation.

perverts!

/

453 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:54:33am

Some people just don't appreciate the love of community.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

454 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:55:43am

Well, that thread went to shit. I signed on looking for some sophisticated analysis of the debt-debt ceiling struggle.

'Morning, Pukes.

455 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:56:37am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Well, that thread went to shit. I signed on looking for some sophisticated analysis of the debt-debt ceiling struggle.

'Morning, Pukes.

Well I hope we have all learned a lesson.
/

456 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:58:02am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Well, that thread went to shit. I signed on looking for some sophisticated analysis of the debt-debt ceiling struggle.

'Morning, Pukes.

BOOBIES!

457 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:58:09am

I need to figure out if I want to go boating. I only have 3 beers which means I'll need to buy more.

458 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 4:58:26am

re: #455 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well I hope we have all learned a lesson.
/

Yeah. Lesson: "The baster jokes were better than the Heavy Metal buzz."

459 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:00:02am

re: #456 Varek Raith

BOOBIES!

408: Boobies Not Found.

(And I'll bet it's those damn birds again.)

460 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:00:05am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Well, that thread went to shit. I signed on looking for some sophisticated analysis of the debt-debt ceiling struggle.

'Morning, Pukes.

Always check the SHOW USERS list to get a feel for the expected discourse!!

//

461 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:00:37am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

408: Boobies Not Found.

(And I'll bet it's those damn birds again.)

Heh!

462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:07:47am

Really. I'm off to Church.

Remember...

Jesus loves you. Everyone else? Thinks you're an asshole.

463 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:09:04am

re: #462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really. I'm off to Church.

Remember...

Jesus loves you. Everyone else? Thinks you're an asshole.

Jesus is coming and boy is he pissed.

464 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:09:53am

Off to do my religious obligation--walking the stupid dog. BB in a few.

465 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:10:22am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

Off to do my religious obligation--walking the stupid dog. BB in a few.

Get a smart dig and have him walk you!

466 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:10:51am

re: #465 sattv4u2

Get a smart dig and have him walk you!

dig????

467 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:21:13am

I used a push mower for the first time in 20 years yesterday. Those things suck.

468 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:25:52am

re: #467 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used a push mower for the first time in 20 years yesterday. Those things suck.

It;s easier if you start the engine and then get on the seat and drive it

469 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:28:24am

re: #468 sattv4u2

It;s easier if you start the engine and then get on the seat and drive it

Went to Pep Boys a few weeks ago. Evidently, the old skool mowers with no engine and only blades are making a comeback. Yea. That ain't happening.

470 BongCrodny  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:32:16am

Any other Lost fans out there?

I'm four seasons into the Great Lost Rewatching Project, and I gotta say, it makes a LOT more sense the second time around.

471 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:34:05am

re: #469 Cannadian Club Akbar

Went to Pep Boys a few weeks ago. Evidently, the old skool mowers with no engine and only blades are making a comeback. Yea. That ain't happening.

Yup,, these rascals

[Link: www.composters.com...]

I have a riding mower but I want/need a special mower for the front but I can't justify the cost. I have Bermuda grass there and they have special mowers for that that run about $1800

472 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:34:36am

re: #470 BongCrodny

Any other Lost fans out there?

I'm four seasons into the Great Lost Rewatching Project, and I gotta say, it makes a LOT more sense the second time around.

Only one I know of was Walter and he hasn't made a comeback

473 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:38:39am

re: #471 sattv4u2

When I mentioned to my friend I hadn't used a push mower he said it was good exercise. Then I reminded him that my lawn is 1.5 acres, not counting the back field. And the fact that my rider had a really nice cup holder.

474 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:39:18am

re: #473 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I mentioned to my friend I hadn't used a push mower he said it was good exercise. Then I reminded him that my lawn is 1.5 acres, not counting the back field. And the fact that my rider had a really nice cup holder.

Double D's ???

475 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:39:57am

re: #474 sattv4u2

Double D's ???

Not sure about D's, but always doubles.:)

476 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:42:35am

re: #473 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I mentioned to my friend I hadn't used a push mower he said it was good exercise. Then I reminded him that my lawn is 1.5 acres, not counting the back field. And the fact that my rider had a really nice cup holder.

get a goat!

doubles as dinner once you fatten it up on grass

477 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:47:17am

re: #476 sattv4u2

get a goat!

doubles as dinner once you fatten it up on grass

My actual plan was to get 3 cows for the back field. 1 as a pet and 2 for food. We have a slaughter house that would do the deed and keep half the meat.

478 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:48:35am

re: #477 Cannadian Club Akbar

My actual plan was to get 3 cows for the back field. 1 as a pet and 2 for food. We have a slaughter house that would do the deed and keep half the meat.

win/win

AND ,, what time's the BBQ??

479 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:50:35am

Congrats Derek Jeter

Class act,, (but I still hate the Yankees!!)

480 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:51:32am

re: #478 sattv4u2

win/win

AND ,, what time's the BBQ??

And don't even make me bring up the amount of mushrooms that would be available. Especially after the last 2 weeks of straight rain.

481 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:52:39am

re: #479 sattv4u2

Congrats Derek Jeter

Class act,, (but I still hate the Yankees!!)

#3000 with a HR. Wade Boggs did the same, but as a Ray. And Boggs wasn't a HR hitter.

482 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:55:57am

re: #481 Cannadian Club Akbar

#3000 with a HR. Wade Boggs did the same, but as a Ray. And Boggs wasn't a HR hitter.

He was also "hitting" Margo Adams!
/

483 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 5:59:00am

re: #482 sattv4u2

People just don't get how hard it is to get 3000 hits. I try to explain it, but they still don't get it. So I quit trying.

484 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:00:59am

re: #483 Cannadian Club Akbar

People just don't get how hard it is to get 3000 hits. I try to explain it, but they still don't get it. So I quit trying.

What amazed me about the Jeter one is, in the long history of the Yankees, with all the amazing players they have had, he's the 1st

485 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:01:24am

The pledge Bachmann signed just keeps getting better:

FAMiLY LEADER Statement Suggests Pledge, Signed By Bachmann, Requires Her To Prosecute Essentially All Porn

Yeah. Good luck with that.

486 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:03:52am

re: #484 sattv4u2

What amazed me about the Jeter one is, in the long history of the Yankees, with all the amazing players they have had, he's the 1st

That's called "Love of the game, love of the team". You don't see that anymore.

487 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:06:06am

re: #485 Lidane

People can try all they want to get rid of porn. That whole 1st amendment thingy sure does get in the way, though.

488 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:06:43am

re: #485 Lidane

The pledge Bachmann signed just keeps getting better:

FAMiLY LEADER Statement Suggests Pledge, Signed By Bachmann, Requires Her To Prosecute Essentially All Porn

Yeah. Good luck with that.

If we apply the standard of pornography used by my nuns in the 1950s, Walmart sells pornography to children.

489 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:07:30am

re: #486 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's called "Love of the game, love of the team". You don't see that anymore.

But thats what I mean. Most of those old great Yankees were lifers with the team

Dimaggio, Berra, Mantle

490 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:09:39am

re: #477 Cannadian Club Akbar

My actual plan was to get 3 cows for the back field. 1 as a pet and 2 for food. We have a slaughter house that would do the deed and keep half the meat.

What is this thing 'pet'. My Israeli neighbors asked me if I would let the large family dog in our bomb shelter during one of Saddam's spasms.

Answer: "Last ditch protein."

491 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:12:18am

re: #490 Decatur Deb

What is this thing 'pet'. My Israeli neighbors asked me if I would let the large family dog in our bomb shelter during one of Saddam's spasms.

Answer: "Last ditch protein."

Trust me. If it came down to it, the question wouldn't be if needed, the question would be "Who's bringing the beer".

492 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:17:02am

re: #491 Cannadian Club Akbar

Trust me. If it came down to it, the question wouldn't be if needed, the question would be "Who's bringing the beer".

Ha. I was working with the task force aviation shop after Hurricane Andrew. We got one airlift request for some hungry Seminoles stuck on a "hummock" out in the swamps. Then we got one for a bunch of cows stranded on another island. My answer (not adopted) "Send a Chinook with some charcoal to slingload the cows over to the Indians. They'll figure something out."

493 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:20:13am

re: #492 Decatur Deb

I went through Florida City a year after Andrew on my way to the Keys. Looked like Lebanon.

494 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:22:00am

re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went through Florida City a year after Andrew on my way to the Keys. Looked like Lebanon.

Homestead was the most impressive. There was a pile of trash bulldozed about two stories high. Most of the trash was F16s.

495 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:23:52am

re: #494 Decatur Deb

Homestead was the most impressive. There was a pile of trash bulldozed about two stories high. Most of the trash was F16s.

Revolución!
/

496 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:25:03am

re: #495 Varek Raith

Revolución!
/

Appropriacion!!

497 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:25:10am

re: #495 Varek Raith

Revolución!
/

Ron Paul fan, huh?
/

498 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:27:14am

re: #497 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ron Paul fan, huh?
/

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Oh, and;
GOLD.

499 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:28:38am
500 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:30:36am

re: #498 Varek Raith

There was a story last week of a temple in India that uncovered mucho old gold. What does happen to a species currency when the supply suddenly jumps up 10 percent or so? Something even more dramatic happened when the Spanish hit the New World jackpot.

501 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:30:55am

re: #498 Varek Raith

I have a friend who is a Paulian. The stuff he post on FB just amazes me.

502 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:32:07am

Fukushima Roadmap.

The roadmap for controlling and cleaning up the accident at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Station is evidently out. I don’t have direct access but NHK is reporting:

o Removal of the melted fuel rods may begin in 10 years (2021).

o The 2021 target date depends on timely development of new technology.

o On-site buildings will be demolished and safely cleared away in “dozens of years”.
There is no statement about when the accident is expected to end.

o There are still daily uncontrolled releases of radiation to the environment.

o The reactors are not yet in “cold shutdown” (and probably will not be for some months).

o Reactor 3 is the most temperamental and is prone to temperature excursions when the input rate of cooling water is reduced.

503 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:32:29am

re: #500 Decatur Deb

There was a story last week of a temple in India that uncovered mucho old gold. What does happen to a species currency when the supply suddenly jumps up 10 percent or so? Something even more dramatic happened when the Spanish hit the New World jackpot.

You get a lot people walking around with these on

[Link: www.failfunnies.com...]

504 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:32:29am

Fox Banner,,,,
Breaking: GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell Says Grand Deficit Bargain Off the Table

505 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:32:56am

re: #499 Varek Raith

Angry Tea Party Stirring up GOP Revolt
/Ruh roh.

That's the headline I've been waiting for. It looks like that article is from before the Boehner announcement.

506 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:33:58am

re: #503 sattv4u2

Gaaahh.

507 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:35:24am

re: #504 Killgore Trout

Fox Banner,,,
Breaking: GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell Says Grand Deficit Bargain Off the Table

The big threat is that Boehner and McConnell might not be able to deliver on any agreement.

508 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:35:27am

re: #504 Killgore Trout

Fox Banner,,,
Breaking: GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell Says Grand Deficit Bargain Off the Table

McConnell: $4T Deficit-Reduction Deal Likely Off the Table

Ok, it looks like it's not doomsday. The GOP is just backing away from its demands. I got worried there for a second.

509 mr.fusion  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:36:02am

re: #504 Killgore Trout

Fox Banner,,,
Breaking: GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell Says Grand Deficit Bargain Off the Table

I really don't see any way the two sides come to an agreement on this, especially since the GOP's version of "agreement" is the same thing it's been since Obama took office: "Give us everything we want and nothing you do or else we'll pull the trigger."

510 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:36:07am
The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations, said the $2 trillion to $2.4 trillion in deficit reduction identified by the Biden-led negotiations remains under negotiation and will also require some new tax revenue of up to $400 billion.
511 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:37:19am

re: #510 Killgore Trout

Why is the VP waking up with a smile?

512 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:37:39am

re: #509 mr.fusion

I really don't see any way the two sides come to an agreement on this, especially since the GOP's version of "agreement" is the same thing it's been since Obama took office: "Give us everything we want and nothing you do or else we'll pull the trigger."

The President had both the House and the Senate his first 2 years, didn't he?

513 mr.fusion  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:37:48am

re: #510 Killgore Trout

Proof positive that the GOP doesn't give a shit about the deficit

514 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:38:03am

re: #512 Cannadian Club Akbar

The President had both the House and the Senate his first 2 years, didn't he?

sshhhhhhh

515 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:38:09am

re: #511 Decatur Deb

Why is the VP waking up with a smile?

Still drunk from last night?
/

516 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:38:32am

re: #515 Cannadian Club Akbar

Still drunk from last night 1982?
/

517 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:38:57am

re: #502 Varek Raith

Build more nuclear!

/

518 mr.fusion  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:39:01am

re: #512 Cannadian Club Akbar

The President had both the House and the Senate his first 2 years, didn't he?

Sure, if you ignore the unprecedented way the GOP used the filibuster and voted en masse against absolutely everything, then yea.......the President had both the House and Senate

519 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:39:05am

re: #515 Cannadian Club Akbar

Still drunk from last night?
/

I think he's off the stuff, but I wouldn't fault him.

520 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:40:31am

re: #517 laZardo

Build more smart nuclear!

/

Fukushima was evacuated again last night--mild tsunami.

521 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:41:31am

re: #518 mr.fusion

Sure, if you ignore the unprecedented way the GOP used the filibuster and voted en masse against absolutely everything, then yea...the President had both the House and Senate

People always conveniently forget that part.

522 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:42:09am

re: #517 laZardo

Build more nuclear!

/

From what I've read only one third of Japan's nuclear reactors are currently running.
Also, they are worried about more steam explosions due to radiolysis.

523 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:42:30am

re: #520 Decatur Deb

Fukushima was evacuated again last night--mild tsunami.

Said it earlier

Those poor people. What a range of emotions they must have gone through within a few hours

Their womens World Cup Soccer team beats the presumptive tournament favorites (Germany) then just mere hours later a 7/1 quake with tsunami warnings

524 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:42:37am

re: #519 Decatur Deb

I think he's off the stuff, but I wouldn't fault him.

Biden's never been on the stuff. The guy's pretty open about the fact that alcoholism runs in his family and because of it, he doesn't drink.

525 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:43:05am

re: #520 Decatur Deb

Fukushima was evacuated again last night--mild tsunami.

It's not smart to build nuclear on the Ring of Fire in the first place. Corporate mismanagement aside, no amount of "preparing for the worst" can really stop the inevitable.

526 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:44:06am

re: #525 laZardo

It's not smart to build nuclear on the Ring of Fire in the first place. Corporate mismanagement aside, no amount of "preparing for the worst" can really stop the inevitable.

We can't engineer anything that can withstand a 9.0+ quake.
Oy, we sure are stupid about where we build shit.
:/

527 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:45:41am

re: #526 Varek Raith

We can't engineer anything that can withstand a 9.0+ quake.
Oy, we sure are stupid about where we build shit.
:/

Like that non-operable reactor built near that volcano in the Philippines.
Brilliant!
Or that one built on a fault line in Cali.
Awesome!

528 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:46:28am

re: #526 Varek Raith

We can't engineer anything that can withstand a 9.0+ quake.
Oy, we sure are stupid about where we build shit.
:/

But at least other sources of power don't irradiate an area of land beyond a human timeframe when destroyed.

529 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:47:00am

re: #528 laZardo

But at least other sources of power don't irradiate an area of land beyond a human timeframe when destroyed.

Oh, I agree.

530 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:47:42am

re: #527 Varek Raith

Like that non-operable reactor built near that volcano in the Philippines.
Brilliant!

Exactly like that one. Of course, it's actually incurred heavy costs because the previous President Aquino only mothballed it instead of having it torn down. So we're still maintaining it and paying interest as if we expect it to start operation sometime whenever.

531 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:48:53am

re: #530 laZardo

Exactly like that one. Of course, it's actually incurred heavy costs because the previous President Aquino only mothballed it instead of having it torn down. So we're still maintaining it and paying interest as if we expect it to start operation sometime whenever.

At some point you gotta wonder if anyone said, "Gee, we're really gonna build this here?"
Of course, I doubt they cared.

532 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:49:54am

re: #512 Cannadian Club Akbar

The President had both the House and the Senate his first 2 years, didn't he?

Yes and no - and I know we've been through this before but I'll do it again.

The house consistently gave stuff the president would sign. The sticking point was the Senate.

The senate had this problem with the cloture bar aka the filibuster. 60 votes were required to end debate so the bill could be voted upon. Over 40 Republicans in the Senate consistently blocked cloture. (see [Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...] or [Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...] for discussion with charts).

de jure, Democrats controlled the Senate. De facto, the Republicans shut down any Democratic initiatives.

533 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:51:29am

re: #526 Varek Raith

We can't engineer anything that can withstand a 9.0+ quake.
Oy, we sure are stupid about where we build shit.
:/

The Army had two powerplants that could. They were large seagoing 'barges'. One operated experimentally off Antarctica for a while, but both have been de-milled. (Buried in Washington State, I think.)

534 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:52:27am

re: #528 laZardo

But at least other sources of power don't irradiate an area of land beyond a human timeframe when destroyed.

That's a feature, not a bug. You're talking to Varek.

535 Meitantei  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:55:30am

re: #528 laZardo

Did Fukushima really do that? It's not like large swathes of land are not uninhabitable by humans, as far as I've heard.

Anyways, I'm a student at a very, very leftist college in St. Paul, and my friends have fallen completely under "Obama is a coward and is no better than Bush" mode. I'm not sure how to snap them out of it, or why the most relatively right-wing guy out of my group is the one defending him.

536 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:56:38am

re: #508 Killgore Trout

McConnell: $4T Deficit-Reduction Deal Likely Off the Table

Ok, it looks like it's not doomsday. The GOP is just backing away from its demands. I got worried there for a second.

They could have had a 4T deficit reduction, if they'd agree to some minor tax hikes. Instead, they're settling for a much smaller deficit reduction.

In other words, deficit reduction is not anywhere near their top priority. Making sure rich people and multinational corporations keep every possible tax break, tax credit or subsidy is more important. Fuck the deficit, I want to depreciate my jet on a five-year schedule and it would be the height of tyranny to make me put it on a seven-year depreciation allowance. Revolutions have been fought over less.

537 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:57:42am

re: #535 Meitantei


Anyways, I'm a student at a very, very leftist college in St. Paul, and my friends have fallen completely under "Obama is a coward and is no better than Bush" mode. I'm not sure how to snap them out of it, or why the most relatively right-wing guy out of my group is the one defending him.

Well, it's kind of nice to have a clear-cut mission for 2012.

538 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:57:49am

re: #535 Meitantei

Did Fukushima really do that? It's not like large swathes of land are not uninhabitable by humans, as far as I've heard.

Not yet.

Anyways, I'm a student at a very, very leftist college in St. Paul, and my friends have fallen completely under "Obama is a coward and is no better than Bush" mode. I'm not sure how to snap them out of it, or why the most relatively right-wing guy out of my group is the one defending him.

I think it has a lot to do with Kirk's #532. Unfortunately some people don't get the fact that most of the time the President just signs the "change." Legislative process and all that.

539 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:58:28am

re: #512 Cannadian Club Akbar

The President had both the House and the Senate his first 2 years, didn't he?

He had the house for two years.

The senate... during the 4-month stretch between Al Franken's arrival and Scott Brown's arrival, there were 60 D votes on alternate Tuesdays if Joe Lieberman wasn't feeling particularly pissy.

540 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:04:45am

re: #539 sagehen

He had the house for two years.

The senate... during the 4-month stretch between Al Franken's arrival and Scott Brown's arrival, there were 60 D votes on alternate Tuesdays if Joe Lieberman wasn't feeling particularly pissy.

ummm, no. Byrd died June 28. Franken was seated July 7. Kennedy died August 25. There was a tiny window where Lieberman was the issue, but he wasn't the only factor.

541 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:06:21am

Overview of the Army's Nuclear Power Program with links:

[Link: militaryanalysis.blogspot.com...]

Fukushima and battlefield hydrogen fuel potential have revived interest.

542 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:10:51am

Good Morning all!

This little gem appeared on my Facebook this morning. Notice the reference to abortion.

Former drug company scientist Helen Ratajczak recently created a firestorm of debate from all sides of the vaccine-autism issue when she published her comprehensive review of autism research. This is a massively important study, for more than one reason. One element brought to light that has managed to stay well below the radar is the use of aborted embryonic cells in vaccine production.

CBS News recently reported:

“Ratajczak reports that about the same time vaccine makers took most thimerosal out of most vaccines (with the exception of flu shots which still widely contain thimerosal), they began making some vaccines using human tissue.

Ratajczak says human tissue is currently used in 23 vaccines. She discusses the increase in autism incidences corresponding with the introduction of human DNA to MMR vaccine, and suggests the two could be linked.”



As if I don't have enough to scream about.

How is everyone this morning?

543 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:12:44am

Good Morning all!

This little gem appeared on my Facebook this morning. Notice the reference to abortion.

Former drug company scientist Helen Ratajczak recently created a firestorm of debate from all sides of the vaccine-autism issue when she published her comprehensive review of autism research. This is a massively important study, for more than one reason. One element brought to light that has managed to stay well below the radar is the use of aborted embryonic cells in vaccine production.

CBS News recently reported:

“Ratajczak reports that about the same time vaccine makers took most thimerosal out of most vaccines (with the exception of flu shots which still widely contain thimerosal), they began making some vaccines using human tissue.

Ratajczak says human tissue is currently used in 23 vaccines. She discusses the increase in autism incidences corresponding with the introduction of human DNA to MMR vaccine, and suggests the two could be linked.”

As if I don't have enough to scream about.

How is everyone this morning?

(pimf)

544 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:14:17am

re: #542 ggt

Looks like the Birtherism mental process. Once a 'movement' fastens onto its mania, it will find a pseudo-scientific reason to achieve its ends.

545 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:15:14am

re: #544 Decatur Deb

Looks like the Birtherism mental process. Once a 'movement' fastens onto its mania, it will find a pseudo-scientific reason to achieve its ends.

The "aborted embryonic stem cell" angle is new, no?

546 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:18:20am

re: #543 ggt

Good Morning all!

This little gem appeared on my Facebook this morning. Notice the reference to abortion.

As if I don't have enough to scream about.

How is everyone this morning?

(pimf)

CBS News trying to appeal to the anti-vaxxers. Doesn't surprise me.

547 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:18:53am

re: #545 ggt

The "aborted embryonic stem cell" angle is new, no?

New to me. Wait until they notice "placental" products in shampoo.

548 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:19:55am

re: #542 ggt

Good Morning all!

This little gem appeared on my Facebook this morning. Notice the reference to abortion.

Former drug company scientist Helen Ratajczak recently created a firestorm of debate from all sides of the vaccine-autism issue when she published her comprehensive review of autism research. This is a massively important study, for more than one reason. One element brought to light that has managed to stay well below the radar is the use of aborted embryonic cells in vaccine production.

CBS News recently reported:

“Ratajczak reports that about the same time vaccine makers took most thimerosal out of most vaccines (with the exception of flu shots which still widely contain thimerosal), they began making some vaccines using human tissue.

Ratajczak says human tissue is currently used in 23 vaccines. She discusses the increase in autism incidences corresponding with the introduction of human DNA to MMR vaccine, and suggests the two could be linked.”


As if I don't have enough to scream about.

How is everyone this morning?

VACCINES IS PEOPLE!

/

549 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:20:47am

re: #546 Gus 802

CBS News trying to appeal to the anti-vaxxers. Doesn't surprise me.

People still watch CBS News?

550 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:21:41am

Skeptimedia - Anti-vaccine propaganda from CBS

1 April 2011. Sharyl Attkisson of CBS.com has posted an article Sharyl Attkisson of CBSwhose headline seems to promote the speculation of a vaccine/autism link by Helen Ratajczak, described as "a former senior scientist at a pharmaceutical firm" and the focus of Attkisson's article. The headline over the CBS article is disturbingly misleading and may lead to another media circus similar to that set off by the publication in Nature of a paper by Andrew Wakefield that has been discredited as fraudulent: Vaccines and autism: a new scientific review. (For a taste of how the vaccines-cause-autism folks view the CBS article, see the Age of Autism's [AoA] post and comments.)

Ratajcak's article, which was published in the Journal of Helen RatajczakImmunotoxicology, is entitled "Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes--A review." Her article is not a report of any original research she has done, but is a review of the work of others from a variety of fields over the past several decades on issues related to autism, including speculations by various authors of a connection between vaccines and autism. For her part, Ratacjzak speculates that human DNA, which some authors claim has contaminated some vaccines, may cause autism:

The MMR II vaccine is contaminated with human DNA from the cell line. This human DNA could be the cause of the spikes in incidence. An additional increased spike in incidence of autism occurred in 1995 when the chicken pox vaccine was grown in human fetal tissue (Merck and Co., Inc., 2001; Breuer, 2003).

Continues.

551 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:22:56am

re: #536 sagehen

They could have had a 4T deficit reduction, if they'd agree to some minor tax hikes. Instead, they're settling for a much smaller deficit reduction.

In other words, deficit reduction is not anywhere near their top priority. Making sure rich people and multinational corporations keep every possible tax break, tax credit or subsidy is more important. Fuck the deficit, I want to depreciate my jet on a five-year schedule and it would be the height of tyranny to make me put it on a seven-year depreciation allowance. Revolutions have been fought over less.

Yup that's becoming more obvious. The headlines aren't looking good for Republicans...
Boehner says 'no' to ambitious debt-reduction deal

Talks to reach a comprehensive deficit reduction deal sought by President Barack Obama have effectively broken down over Republican resistance to tax increases.
....House Speaker John Boehner said Saturday that the insistence by Obama and Democrats on raising revenue through higher taxes prevented any chance that Republicans could support a major deal that also would cut spending and reform entitlement programs such as Medicare.

552 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:23:25am

re: #550 Gus 802

Sharyl Attkisson used to be a local reporter down here. Then again, so was Pam Oliver (Fox NFL)

553 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:24:11am

re: #549 Cannadian Club Akbar

People still watch CBS News?

Not sure but I think that just made the intertoobs and wasn't broadcast.

554 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:25:01am

re: #552 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sharyl Attkisson used to be a local reporter down here. Then again, so was Pam Oliver (Fox NFL)

Investigative reporter!

//

555 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:25:15am

I think this autism/vaccine propaganda isn't really about autism, but about abortion.

Anything to keep it in the public eye and to defund Planned Parenthood.

556 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:25:26am

ACTION NEWS!

Blow me!

//

557 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:26:01am

re: #547 Decatur Deb

New to me. Wait until they notice "placental" products in shampoo.

placenta is supossed to be buried so the predators don't find it . . . .

558 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:26:11am

re: #555 ggt

I think this autism/vaccine propaganda isn't really about autism, but about abortion.

Anything to keep it in the public eye and to defund Planned Parenthood.

I'm not sure what the anti-vaxxers positions are on abortion.

559 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:26:50am

re: #550 Gus 802

Skeptimedia - Anti-vaccine propaganda from CBS

If this "former senior scientist" even exists, the cheesy report suggests (perhaps unfairly) why she is "former".

560 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:26:59am

re: #556 Gus 802

ACTION NEWS!

Blow me!

//

Dude, they're on "your side".
/

561 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:27:10am

re: #555 ggt

I think this autism/vaccine propaganda isn't really about autism, but about abortion.

Anything to keep it in the public eye and to defund Planned Parenthood.

That too.

562 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:27:37am

re: #558 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm not sure what the anti-vaxxers positions are on abortion.

Propaganda is what propaganda is.

Be sure, you'll probably hear Michelle Bachman reference it as another reason to vote for her.

563 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:28:27am

re: #543 ggt

Good Morning all!

This little gem appeared on my Facebook this morning. Notice the reference to abortion.

As if I don't have enough to scream about.

How is everyone this morning?

(pimf)

So Ratajczak's survey (not study, review of existing studies) relies in part on the discredited Wakefield "study" (found to have made up numbers), and we're supposed to take it credibly? It claims nobody has actually studied correlation between vaccines and autism and we're supposed to take it seriously? It cites Geier, Bernard, DeSoto and Hitlan et al? A rogues gallery of discredited vaccination studies clung to by the anti-vaxers - even including Black Helicopter man David Ayoub?

riiiiight.

564 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:29:01am

re: #560 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dude, they're on "your side".
/

[Insert obnoxious "Action News" music here]

//

565 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:29:43am

re: #564 Gus 802

[Insert obnoxious "Action News" music here]

//

[Link: atomicgator.wordpress.com...]

566 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:30:12am

I gotta go :(

have a great day all!

567 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:30:34am

re: #563 kirkspencer

Would love to see if "Big Pharma's" lawyers are bigger than "Big Anti-vax" lawyers.

568 mr.fusion  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:31:52am

Anybody watching Meet The Press?

Gregory just asked Pawlenty to name one area where he breaks with the Republican Party........and he says "I support the minimum wage."

Does that mean the GOP doesn't? I mean, I know they don't, but are they actually making that public now?

569 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:31:53am

re: #563 kirkspencer

So Ratajczak's survey (not study, review of existing studies) relies in part on the discredited Wakefield "study" (found to have made up numbers), and we're supposed to take it credibly? It claims nobody has actually studied correlation between vaccines and autism and we're supposed to take it seriously? It cites Geier, Bernard, DeSoto and Hitlan et al? A rogues gallery of discredited vaccination studies clung to by the anti-vaxers - even including Black Helicopter man David Ayoub?

riiight.

David Ayoub, Black Helicopters and Social Movement

570 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:31:57am

re: #564 Gus 802

[Insert obnoxious "Action News" music here]

//

Add shot of "concerned reporter" looking up from script with a serious look on his/her face.

571 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:32:38am

If there is a "Big Pharma", is there a "little pharma"?

572 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:33:33am

re: #571 Shropshire_Slasher

If there is a "Big Pharma", is there a "little pharma"?

Yes

He's on the corner of 4th and Broadway. He'll sell you a dime bag!

//

573 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:33:51am

Where are the jobs?
Canada.
Province of 3.7M bests nation of 311M on jobs

Alberta created more new jobs in June (22,000) than all 50 U.S. states combined (18,000), even though the U.S. population is 85 times larger than Alberta's;
....
Here in the Great White North, the contrast with the latest U.S. jobs data couldn't be sharper. Canada added 28,400 more workers in June -the ninth straight monthly gain, and twice as high as the consensus estimate -bringing the first-half total to 192,000.

Ontario (40,000), Alberta (22,000) and Nova Scotia (3,800) led the gainers, while six provinces posted declines, led by Quebec (down 15,500). That kept the national unemployment rate steady at 7.4 per cent, even as Canada's labour force expanded by 42,000 workers.

574 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:34:57am

re: #571 Shropshire_Slasher

If there is a "Big Pharma", is there a "little pharma"?

Not anymore. Little Pharma™ has been commodified by Big Pharma™.

//

575 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:35:04am

re: #571 Shropshire_Slasher

If there is a "Big Pharma", is there a "little pharma"?

If there are Professional Psychiatrist does that mean there are Amateur Psychiatrist?

576 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:35:40am

re: #575 Cannadian Club Akbar

If there are Professional Psychiatrist does that mean there are Amateur Psychiatrist?

Yes ,, US!!!

/

577 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:35:49am

re: #575 Cannadian Club Akbar

If there are Professional Psychiatrist does that mean there are Amateur Psychiatrist?

You need to work on your anger issues.

//

578 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:36:07am

re: #574 Gus 802

Not anymore. Little Pharma™ has been commodified by Big Pharma™.

//

Someone bought a new dictionary.
///

579 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:36:28am

re: #575 Cannadian Club Akbar

If there are Professional Psychiatrist does that mean there are Amateur Psychiatrist?

Also no thrilled with PRACTICING physicians and/ or attorneys!
/

580 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:37:08am

re: #574 Gus 802

Commodified, had to crack open the dictionary!!
i think u meant they moved to China

581 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:37:23am

re: #579 sattv4u2

Also no thrilled with PRACTICING physicians and/ or attorneys!
/

Not all can be the best. Somebody finished last in medical or law skool.:)

582 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:37:59am

re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar

Someone bought a new dictionary.
///

Or a new commode!

583 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:38:35am

re: #581 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not all can be the best. Somebody finished last in medical or law skool.:)

Yeah ,, and I have an appointment with him on Thursday!

584 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:38:51am

re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar

Someone bought a new dictionary.
///

That came up when we were ridiculing New Age BS yesterday afternoon...

The New Age is strongly gendered; sociologist Ciara O'Connor argues that it shows a tension between commodification and women's empowerment.

And commodification which comes with a portrait of Karl Marx.

585 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:39:30am

re: #584 Gus 802

I remember. That's why I made the joke.:)

586 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:39:34am

re: #584 Gus 802

KARL MARX!?!?!
I knew it...

587 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:39:54am

re: #583 sattv4u2

Yeah ,, and I have an appointment with him on Thursday!

Another rash?

588 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:40:21am

re: #585 Cannadian Club Akbar

I remember. That's why I made the joke.:)

Roger! Thought you were there.

589 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:42:20am

re: #587 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got some salve for that but we both gotta get naked before I apply it
//////

590 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:42:30am

re: #573 Killgore Trout

Where are the jobs?
Canada.
Province of 3.7M bests nation of 311M on jobs

I'd move to Canada but I don't want to learn a foreign language.

//

591 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:43:01am

re: #586 Shropshire_Slasher

KARL MARX!?!?!
I knew it...

I had to watch Dr. Zhivago in high skool because of Karl Marx. Hate him.

592 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:43:32am

re: #572 sattv4u2

Yes

He's on the corner of 4th and Broadway. He'll sell you a dime bag!

//

Damn. I was typing that...

593 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:43:57am

re: #591 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had to watch Dr. Zhivago in high skool because of Karl Marx. Hate him.

Or even worse... Omar Sharif.

//

594 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:44:04am

re: #589 Shropshire_Slasher

I got some salve for that but we both gotta get naked before I apply it
///

Only if you promise not to use your hands.
///

595 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:44:09am

re: #592 Decatur Deb

Damn. I was typing that...

Should have told me. Would have saved me from doing it!!!

596 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:44:12am

re: #592 Decatur Deb

brilliant minds yadda yadda

597 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:44:14am

Was never a fan. :P

598 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:45:19am

Although Freud would say that I don't like Omar Sharif because my mother always loved Omar Sharif. Maybe I should book a date on Dr. Phil so I can get cured.

//

599 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:46:17am

Stop staring at me!

//

600 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:46:50am

re: #598 Gus 802

Although Freud would say that I don't like Omar Sharif because my mother always loved Omar Sharif. Maybe I should book a date on Dr. Phil so I can get cured.

//

I hate Oprah for inflicting that fat bastard on us.

601 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:47:00am

re: #598 Gus 802

Although Freud would say that I don't like Omar Sharif because my mother always loved Omar Sharif. Maybe I should book a date on Dr. Phil so I can get cured.

//


Speaking of which ,, does anyone miss oprah??

Yeah ,, me neither!!

602 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:48:45am

re: #600 Cannadian Club Akbar

myeah, but he has a pretty easily imitated speech pattern.

603 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:48:46am

Here's a world-class spin effort from Politico. Boehner's retreat is some kind of conservative victory. Their commenter's aren't buying it.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

604 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:49:26am

re: #600 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hate Oprah for inflicting that fat bastard on us.

Yea. Oprah's bad enough on her own. Can't wait for that twit to go off the air. But I caught an episode of Dr. Phil last week. It's been years. He's still trying to "practice" psychology in 20 minutes and talking his usual bullshit. Only now he has his wife in the audience ogling at him and they do close-ups of her. God it's such a stupid program.

605 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:50:08am

re: #601 sattv4u2

Speaking of which ,, does anyone miss oprah??

Yeah ,, me neither!!

I thought she was still on the air?

606 darthstar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:50:38am

Mornin' rabble. Can't stick around...gotta go run the boys then head up to the city with my wife to splash about while she does some triathlon training with my little sister this morning.

Maybe Oprah and Glenn Beck will get a show together. Wouldn't that be interesting to watch?...for a minute

607 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:51:50am

re: #605 Gus 802

I thought she was still on the air?

could be, but I wouldn't know/care

All the shows that are now 'on" are pre-taped, so my company doesn't do any more "live" shots for them

608 Shropshire_Slasher  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:51:50am

Ok I gotta go hang laundry, take a cold shower and enjoy this beautiful day! I hope all of you have great day!

609 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:52:25am

re: #606 darthstar

Mornin' rabble. Can't stick around...gotta go run the boys then head up to the city with my wife to splash about while she does some triathlon training with my little sister this morning.

Maybe Oprah and Glenn Beck will get a show together. Wouldn't that be interesting to watch?...for a minute

We could call it a cookie eating competition.

610 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:53:56am

I wish Dr. Phil would do a show with a lion. Or a bear. OR A LION/BEAR!!!!

611 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:54:27am

re: #607 sattv4u2

could be, but I wouldn't know/care

All the shows that are now 'on" are pre-taped, so my company doesn't do any more "live" shots for them

Stedman! Stedman! No one gives a crap about Stedman.

//

612 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:54:31am

re: #605 Gus 802

I thought she was still on the air?

Last "live" show

May 25th

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

613 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:55:33am

re: #610 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wish Dr. Phil would do a show with a lion. Or a bear. OR A LION/BEAR!!!

Hiking with Dr. Phil. He can do point. Then we can walk towards those momma grizzlies with their cubs.

//

614 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:56:08am

re: #612 sattv4u2

Last "live" show

May 25th

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Whew. Finally. It's like the end of "War of the Worlds". ;)

615 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:56:19am

My Senator, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, has just finished describing his alternate universe on Face the Nation.

616 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:56:56am

re: #610 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wish Dr. Phil would do a show with a lion. Or a bear. OR A LION/BEAR!!!

Or a new reality show where we inject Dr. Phil with the plague.

//

617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:57:20am

re: #524 Lidane

Biden's never been on the stuff. The guy's pretty open about the fact that alcoholism runs in his family and because of it, he doesn't drink.

Really? I feel safer when I watch this video thinking he is drunk.

618 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 7:58:55am

re: #616 Gus 802

Or a new reality show where we inject Dr. Phil with the plague.

//

Him and Dr. Oz. Put bets on who has the most skin fall off. (Obviously the fat one)

619 blueraven  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:01:23am

re: #617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? I feel safer when I watch this video thinking he is drunk.

[Video]

That's a fake. It is not Biden.

620 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:01:27am

re: #618 Cannadian Club Akbar

Him and Dr. Oz. Put bets on who has the most skin fall off. (Obviously the fat one)

I take that back. The fat one would peel the skinny one for food.

621 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:06:24am

Why does David Gregory let is pass unnoticed when Tim Pawlenty tells outright lies? (yeah, watching right now.)

T-Paw says when Obama took office the deficit was only $500B, and he's tripled it. This is false. When Obama took office, the deficit was 1.3T and he's only increased it by 10-20%.

Liberal bias, my ass.

622 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:07:50am

Damn black helicopter made me log off again.

//

623 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:08:53am

Hot damn, pro-gay church camp!

Highland Park church offers camp for gay teens

Dierra Doyle, a 16-year-old headed into her junior year at Highland Park High School, said she thinks Jesus doesn’t love her because she is a lesbian.

She said that most churches make her feel too unwelcome to want to draw close to God, but the open arms of the Reformed Church of Highland Park is starting to change that.

I have some more on the bloggie, for ppl interested in details on the religious background.

624 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:09:14am

One day they'll discover a new species. It's the politician that never lies.

625 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:09:23am

good morning lizards.. Going to be 108 again today...

626 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:10:54am

re: #625 HoosierHoops

good morning lizards.. Going to be 108 again today...

Happy Birthday

You don't look a day over 95!

627 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:11:49am

I had to spend 3 weeks in the hospital in February followed by about 6 weeks flat on my back. My life was Vicodin and TV - in that order. Jesus on a cow turd, but daytime TV is a horror. The "real" doctor shows have to be the worst. These guys (inclusive men and women) are narcissistic, untrustworthy, full o' trivial shit spending most of their time on important stuff like, yanno, beauty secrets and colon cleansing. They talk like they are speaking to kindergarten kids or morons... I suppose that is the audience level of those who actually watch these shows.

628 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:12:22am

re: #626 sattv4u2

Happy Birthday

You don't look a day over 95!

See. HoosierHoops has been watching Dr. Oz. Clearly Dr. Oz works wonders!

//

629 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:12:51am

re: #624 Gus 802

One day they'll discover a new species. It's the politician that never lies.

Tsongas didn't lie, to my knowledge.


That's a good question. Let me try to evade you.

-- Paul Tsongas

630 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:13:55am

re: #627 allegro

I had to spend 3 weeks in the hospital in February followed by about 6 weeks flat on my back. My life was Vicodin and TV - in that order. Jesus on a cow turd, but daytime TV is a horror. The "real" doctor shows have to be the worst. These guys (inclusive men and women) are narcissistic, untrustworthy, full o' trivial shit spending most of their time on important stuff like, yanno, beauty secrets and colon cleansing. They talk like they are speaking to kindergarten kids or morons... I suppose that is the audience level of those who actually watch these shows.

So the Vicodin was for watching TV and not for the pain?

//

631 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:14:31am

Ed Morrisey's spin....

The rapid response at the White House shows the weakness of Obama’s position. Boehner’s desire to go small and deal with just the debt ceiling and accompanying cuts will leave the issue of both debt and exploding federal spending on the table in 2012. Other than jobs, that’s the most toxic issue facing Obama in his re-election campaign. Boehner’s approach would solve the immediate debt-ceiling crisis but leave Obama in exactly the same position as at the midterms and since. Obama needs a win that takes the debt and deficit issues off the table for longer than just a year or eighteen months, but he won’t get it as long as he insists on instituting massive tax hikes in what appears to be the start of another recession.


Looks like they're going to claim that increasing the deficit to keep tax hikes for the wealthy is a victory for them. If that's their ultimate goal then I guess it's mission accomplished.

632 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:14:36am

re: #603 Decatur Deb

Here's a world-class spin effort from Politico. Boehner's retreat is some kind of conservative victory. Their commenter's aren't buying it.

They are gonna really give him something to cry about.

633 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:14:40am

re: #621 sagehen

Why does David Gregory let is pass unnoticed when Tim Pawlenty tells outright lies? (yeah, watching right now.)

T-Paw says when Obama took office the deficit was only $500B, and he's tripled it. This is false. When Obama took office, the deficit was 1.3T and he's only increased it by 10-20%.

Liberal bias, my ass.

Looks more in the 30% range ,,and this was 8 months ago

The National Debt stood at $10.626 trillion the day Mr. Obama was inaugurated. The Bureau of Public Debt reported today that the National Debt had hit an all time high of $13.665 trillion

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

634 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:15:00am

re: #630 Gus 802

So the Vicodin was for watching TV and not for the pain?

//

Not far off! I did pop a few just to sleep cuz there was nothing else to do.

635 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:15:12am

re: #627 allegro

I had to spend 3 weeks in the hospital in February followed by about 6 weeks flat on my back. My life was Vicodin and TV - in that order. Jesus on a cow turd, but daytime TV is a horror.

This is why god created Netflix (if you don't want to pay the $8/month, there's a one-month free trial for the next time you're bedridden). Surely there's a list of movies and/or TV shows you've been meaning to catch up on....

636 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:17:43am

re: #627 allegro

I had to spend 3 weeks in the hospital in February followed by about 6 weeks flat on my back

Ouch ,, sorry

Hope it "cured" whatever the problem was so it was at least worth it

637 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:19:05am

re: #631 Killgore Trout

Ed Morrisey's spin...

Looks like they're going to claim that increasing the deficit to keep tax hikes for the wealthy is a victory for them. If that's their ultimate goal then I guess it's mission accomplished.

Pretty much like I mentioned yesterday. They're likely to increase the debt limit and to nothing else. Of course the GOP will try to kill as many programs in committee such as they may do with the James Webb Space Telescope. Now a mild observation. It's interesting that we haven't heard a thing from the Democrats on the Hill save the president. How come the Democrats aren't speaking out like they once did? Pelosi was never shy to speak her mind. She's now in the minority in the house so we see less of her. Which leaves the Democrats with only the Senate to speak out. Unfortunately, that puts Harry Reid in the spot light and he's never been a good communicator. He mumbles and you can barely hear a word he says.

638 sagehen  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:20:14am

re: #633 sattv4u2

Looks more in the 30% range ,,and this was 8 months ago

The National Debt stood at $10.626 trillion the day Mr. Obama was inaugurated. The Bureau of Public Debt reported today that the National Debt had hit an all time high of $13.665 trillion

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]


Deficit is the annual number; debt is many years' deficits all added together.

He took the deficit from 1.3T to 1.5T; in two years the debt has increased by 3T.

639 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:21:15am

re: #631 Killgore Trout

Ed Morrisey's spin...


Looks like they're going to claim that increasing the deficit to keep tax hikes for the wealthy is a victory for them. If that's their ultimate goal then I guess it's mission accomplished.

Yep. Reducing the deficit is not actually the goal. Cutting social programs while keeping taxes on the wealthy low is their goal. They used to kind of pussyfoot around it, but now they're loudly trumpeting it.

640 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:21:20am

Not many people know that.

641 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:22:45am

re: #636 sattv4u2


I had to spend 3 weeks in the hospital in February followed by about 6 weeks flat on my back

Ouch ,, sorry

Hope it "cured" whatever the problem was so it was at least worth it

It appears that it did! I was surprised by an intestinal blockage that turned out to be a malignant tumor. A couple of surgeries and about a foot less of large intestine later, it appears that I am cancer free. I am quite pleased... seriously scarred but pleased.

642 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:22:55am

re: #637 Gus 802

How come the Democrats aren't speaking out like they once did? Pelosi was never shy to speak her mind. She's now in the minority in the house so we see less of her. Which leaves the Democrats with only the Senate to speak out. Unfortunately, that puts Harry Reid in the spot light and he's never been a good communicator. He mumbles and you can barely hear a word he says.


There have been a few quotes but I suspect they're probably keeping their mouths shut to protect the ongoing negotiations.

643 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:23:46am

re: #633 sattv4u2

Looks more in the 30% range ,,and this was 8 months ago

The National Debt stood at $10.626 trillion the day Mr. Obama was inaugurated. The Bureau of Public Debt reported today that the National Debt had hit an all time high of $13.665 trillion

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

The blame game. Basically we have one camp trying to blame Bush and the other, Obama. Frankly, they both had their hands in the public debt. TARP wasn't free. Neither were the wars in Iraq and AFPAK. GWOT. The Stimulus programs. Etc. Etc. Etc. It's absurd to think that neither Bush or Obama had a hand in this. In the end it doesn't matter about which president or which part was involved. One or the other just spends more on something else.

644 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:23:56am

re: #641 allegro

It appears that it did! I was surprised by an intestinal blockage that turned out to be a malignant tumor. A couple of surgeries and about a foot less of large intestine later, it appears that I am cancer free. I am quite pleased... seriously scarred but pleased.

GREAT!

645 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:24:20am

re: #643 Gus 802

The blame game. Basically we have one camp trying to blame Bush and the other, Obama. Frankly, they both had their hands in the public debt. TARP wasn't free. Neither were the wars in Iraq and AFPAK. GWOT. The Stimulus programs. Etc. Etc. Etc. It's absurd to think that neither Bush or Obama had a hand in this. In the end it doesn't matter about which president or which part was involved. One or the other just spends more on something else.

this

646 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:25:47am

re: #642 Killgore Trout

There have been a few quotes but I suspect they're probably keeping their mouths shut to protect the ongoing negotiations.

Could be. I also think the media is ignoring them since they're no longer "all the rage" as they were before election day last year. New media just like every other thing in American culture works on trends. Out with the old and in with the new. Right now that new is the GOP in the House. Obama however still maintains a strong presence in the news media as presidents always do. This also happened with Bush after 2006.

647 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:27:28am

re: #642 Killgore Trout

There have been a few quotes but I suspect they're probably keeping their mouths shut to protect the ongoing negotiations.

What will happen in the end is that
A) the debt limit will be increased
B) tax "rates" won't be touched, but some deductions will be eliminated
C) some social programs will be scaled back by "x" percentage, but not the actual hard number it is now, rather the percentage of auto increase over a few years

D) ,, everyone claims VICTORY

648 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:29:17am

re: #643 Gus 802

The blame game. Basically we have one camp trying to blame Bush and the other, Obama. Frankly, they both had their hands in the public debt. TARP wasn't free. Neither were the wars in Iraq and AFPAK. GWOT. The Stimulus programs. Etc. Etc. Etc. It's absurd to think that neither Bush or Obama had a hand in this. In the end it doesn't matter about which president or which part was involved. One or the other just spends more on something else.

Gracias. Should I head to DC? //

649 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:31:38am

re: #647 sattv4u2

What will happen in the end is that
A) the debt limit will be increased
B) tax "rates" won't be touched, but some deductions will be eliminated
C) some social programs will be scaled back by "x" percentage, but not the actual hard number it is now, rather the percentage of auto increase over a few years

D) ,, everyone claims VICTORY

That looks pretty good to me. I'm predicting something similar. Or as I mentioned yesterday about maintaining the status quo. Raise the debt limit and "do a couple of other things." Then go on vacation.

650 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:32:10am

Oops. I quoted myself. Need. More. Coffee.

651 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:32:37am

re: #640 negativ

Not many people know that.

[Video]

This Is How Michael Caine Speaks

652 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:33:00am

re: #647 sattv4u2

What will happen in the end is that
A) the debt limit will be increased
B) tax "rates" won't be touched, but some deductions will be eliminated
C) some social programs will be scaled back by "x" percentage, but not the actual hard number it is now, rather the percentage of auto increase over a few years

D) ,, everyone claims VICTORY

E) ???

F) PROFIT!

653 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:33:14am

re: #645 sattv4u2

this

Gracias. Should I head to DC? //

There. That's where I meant to say this Earth shattering comment. ;)

654 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:35:42am

Crap. I have to go boating soon to help the US economy by buying beer (Belgian company) and gas (Canada and Mexico) USA!USA!USA!
/

655 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:37:03am

re: #652 laZardo

E) ???

F) PROFIT!

Actually, there are some "sub headings" for each of those

A), the debt ceiling will be increased but not by as much as the dems want
B) more "deductions" will be eliminated or phased out, more than the repubs want
C) While some social programs will be scaled back over times, others will have/need to be expanded, so same dollars, different pocket
D),, stays the same. Each side claims VICTORY

656 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:37:28am

re: #654 Cannadian Club Akbar

Crap. I have to go boating soon to help the US economy by buying beer (Belgian company) and gas (Canada and Mexico) USA!USA!USA!
/

Oh yeah! My beer is from Fort Collins, Colorado. My car though is German but made in Mexico with some Brazilian parts and Japanese tires.

//

657 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:38:08am

re: #656 Gus 802

Oh yeah! My beer is from Fort Collins, Colorado. My car though is German but made in Mexico with some Brazilian parts and Japanese tires.

//

Don't forget the hot Brazilian Bikini Model Chauffeur!!

658 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:38:40am

Everything else? Hecho en China.

No wait. The sweet and sour chicken I had this morning is from Hayward, California.

//

659 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:38:55am

re: #657 sattv4u2

Don't forget the hot Brazilian Bikini Model Chauffeur!!

Then I woke up.

//

660 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:39:19am

re: #656 Gus 802

Oh yeah! My beer is from Fort Collins, Colorado. My car though is German but made in Mexico with some Brazilian parts and Japanese tires.

//

I get a Brazilian wax for my parts. Not the same??
///

661 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:39:39am

re: #658 Gus 802

Everything else? Hecho en China.

No wait. The sweet and sour chicken I had this morning is from Hayward, California.

//

I always wondered what they fed those chickens to make them taste like that!!

662 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:40:12am

re: #661 sattv4u2

I always wondered what they fed those chickens to make them taste like that!!

What else! Snickers bars.

//

663 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:40:12am

re: #660 Cannadian Club Akbar

I get a Brazilian wax for my parts. Not the same??
///

For your car parts?
Why not just use Turtle Wax??

664 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:40:48am

re: #662 Gus 802

What else! Snickers bars.

//

You have sour snickers bars??
Better check the expiration date!

665 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:42:12am

re: #664 sattv4u2

You have sour snickers bars??
Better check the expiration date!

Hmm. OK. They feed them pineapple pizza.

//

666 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:43:07am

re: #665 Gus 802

Hmm. OK. They feed them pineapple pizza.

//

Thats cruelty to animals

Does PITA know??

667 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:43:19am

re: #665 Gus 802

Hmm. OK. They feed them pineapple pizza.

//

Glad I'm leaving before being sucked into this debate again!!
See ya'll this afternoon.:)

668 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:44:05am

Hey, can anyone tell me if it's legal to refuse to hire someone for a part-time job because they already have another part-time job?

669 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:44:51am

The first rule of Fight Club
[Link: xkcd.com...]

670 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:45:07am

re: #668 Obdicut

Hey, can anyone tell me if it's legal to refuse to hire someone for a part-time job because they already have another part-time job?

If they were born with a part-time employment, then it is discrimination...

671 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:45:23am

re: #668 Obdicut

Hey, can anyone tell me if it's legal to refuse to hire someone for a part-time job because they already have another part-time job?

Probably depends on the state. In Texas, you can refuse to hire someone because fuck it.

672 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:45:51am

Whoa! Deer fest over here. They're all out and pretty close to me.

673 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:46:04am

re: #668 Obdicut

Hey, can anyone tell me if it's legal to refuse to hire someone for a part-time job because they already have another part-time job?

iirc, you can refuse to hire anyone for any reason other than age/race/sex

that stated, it's been about 14 years since I was "hiring" people, but I'm pretty sure I'm correct

674 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:46:38am

re: #672 Gus 802

Whoa! Deer fest over here. They're all out and pretty close to me.

READY
AIM
,,,,

//

675 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:46:42am

re: #671 negativ

Probably depends on the state. In Texas, you can refuse to hire someone because fuck it.

It's the latest shitty thing to happen to a struggling friend of mine. He's got a not-very-good part time job, applied for another one, and even though the schedules are completely different and add up to only 45 hours a week, they told him it was a problem and he couldn't be hired.

676 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:46:45am

re: #668 Obdicut

Hey, can anyone tell me if it's legal to refuse to hire someone for a part-time job because they already have another part-time job?

Do the hours conflict? It would be hard to prove this as a reason a person didn't get hired

677 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:48:30am

re: #669 negativ

Only newfags talk about Fight Club?

/oh wait, wrong rules 1 & 2

678 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:48:35am

re: #675 Obdicut

It's the latest shitty thing to happen to a struggling friend of mine. He's got a not-very-good part time job, applied for another one, and even though the schedules are completely different and add up to only 45 hours a week, they told him it was a problem and he couldn't be hired.

The "new" place may be concerned that even though at this time the schedules are completely different and add up to only 45 hours a week, if that changes in the future your friend may opt to adhere to the 1st companies "new" schedule out of loyalty

Not an unreasonable concern

679 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:49:51am

re: #678 sattv4u2

The "new" place may be concerned that even though at this time the schedules are completely different and add up to only 45 hours a week, if that changes in the future your friend may opt to adhere to the 1st companies "new" schedule out of loyalty

Not an unreasonable concern

Or that first job could up the hours and lead to conflicts.

680 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:50:00am

re: #677 laZardo

Only newfags talk about Fight Club?

/oh wait, wrong rules 1 & 2

Mouseover like all the cool kids learned to do in 1998.

681 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:50:14am

re: #675 Obdicut

It's the latest shitty thing to happen to a struggling friend of mine. He's got a not-very-good part time job, applied for another one, and even though the schedules are completely different and add up to only 45 hours a week, they told him it was a problem and he couldn't be hired.

Means they might plan to keep him "part time" for benefits purposes, but jack his schedule and totals around for their convenience. He should check what other hires are doing.

682 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:51:58am

re: #680 negativ

I saw. It's just when I think of Brad Pitt in a gritty fighting scene, this comes to mind first.

683 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:53:04am

re: #679 ralphieboy

Or that first job could up the hours and lead to conflicts.

Yes, , thats the point I inarticulately meant!!

684 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:56:11am

re: #674 sattv4u2

READY
AIM
,,,

//

Breakfast!

685 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:56:42am

Hey you geeks...
I came across some old articles Charles wrote about programming..
Good Lawd.. It was about assembly language, Moving registers and issues with C memory pointers. Folks this is old school programming published back in the day...Man am I impressed

686 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:56:58am

re: #684 Killgore Trout

Breakfast!

hmmm,, venison sausage links!

687 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:58:45am

Deer...just took these. Not the greatest but here ya go.

Image: Deer-010.jpg
Image: Deer-009.jpg
Image: Deer-008.jpg

688 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:58:51am

re: #485 Lidane

The pledge Bachmann signed just keeps getting better:

FAMiLY LEADER Statement Suggests Pledge, Signed By Bachmann, Requires Her To Prosecute Essentially All Porn

Yeah. Good luck with that.

Yes, that loses her the fiscal conservative, kinda-old-fashioned-but-not-strictly-so-con vote.

There are a bazillion of those guys.

689 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:59:38am

This is funny...
Obama will still seek a $4 trillion debt deal despite GOP opposition, aides say

Some of President Obama’s top advisers said he will continue to press for a far-reaching, $4 trillion deal to cut the deficit when he meets with congressional leaders on Sunday evening, despite new opposition from Republican leaders to such a compromise.


Republicans were for reducing the debt before they were against.

690 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 8:59:57am

Totals were two does, three fawns, and one buck.

The one with the buck has two fawns from two different does (mothers).

691 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:00:03am

re: #681 Decatur Deb

Means they might plan to keep him "part time" for benefits purposes, but jack his schedule and totals around for their convenience. He should check what other hires are doing.

Yeah, that sounds probable. Ugh. He's had the worst luck. The last one turned out to be a fraud of a sophisticated nature: after paying him for two weeks, he was told he'd qualified for the national manager level-- but he'd have to pay to go to the accreditation course for it, run by that company, at a cost of-- about three timed what he'd already earned there.

692 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:00:15am

re: #687 Gus 802

Deer...just took these. Not the greatest but here ya go.

Image: Deer-010.jpg
Image: Deer-009.jpg
Image: Deer-008.jpg

Awww....they look delicious!

693 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:00:59am

re: #692 Killgore Trout

Awww...they look delicious!

Thwack!

For that I will drop napalm on all the toads/frogs I encounter!

//

694 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:01:09am

re: #689 Killgore Trout

This is funny...
Obama will still seek a $4 trillion debt deal despite GOP opposition, aides say


Republicans were for reducing the debt before they were against.

Hey now, when they said that they didn't want to pass debt down to their children and grandchildren, that didn't mean they actually wanted to raise the revenue to avoid that. They were just expressing emotions!

695 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:01:20am

and on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

maybe on one of the country roads near home a deer will try to "cross" the street!!

696 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:01:25am

re: #535 Meitantei

Did Fukushima really do that? It's not like large swathes of land are not uninhabitable by humans, as far as I've heard.

Anyways, I'm a student at a very, very leftist college in St. Paul, and my friends have fallen completely under "Obama is a coward and is no better than Bush" mode. I'm not sure how to snap them out of it, or why the most relatively right-wing guy out of my group is the one defending him.

Probably because most relatively right-wing guy in the group is the one who had realistic expectations of what a president can and should do.

697 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:01:58am
Daley called Boehner’s abandonment of a broad deal “unfortunate.” He added: “Everyone agrees that a number around $4 trillion is the number that will . . . make a serious dent on our deficit. It will send a statement to the world that the U.S. has gotten hold of their problems, fiscal problems, and they are moving forward.”

But Daley also said the debt limit will be raised. “By the 2nd of August, there’s no question in my mind that the leaders of America . . . will not allow the first default in the history of the country to occur,” he said.

698 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:06:40am

re: #690 Gus 802

The fawns passed the buck?
(Nice images to see this am)

699 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:10:02am

re: #698 Rightwingconspirator

The fawns passed the buck?
(Nice images to see this am)

The does actually did. But the two fawns went up to him. It's a cheap little Canon A40 with digital zoom on so things get a little shaky. They're all down at the bottom of the hill now. I've been watering around here so I think they find the vegetation next to the house more appealing.

700 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:13:58am

Whoa II. Kaboom!

Pakistan: US suspends $800m of military aid

The US says it is withholding some $800m in military aid to Pakistan.

White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley told ABC television that Pakistan had "taken some steps that have given us reason to pause on some of the aid".

He said the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden in May had affected ties but he insisted the relationship "must be made to work over time"...

701 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:16:24am

re: #700 Gus 802

Whoa II. Kaboom!

Pakistan: US suspends $800m of military aid

Yeah, that;s a huge story that's almost completely ignored. It should have been done long ago.

702 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:19:13am

re: #685 HoosierHoops

Hey you geeks...
I came across some old articles Charles wrote about programming..
Good Lawd.. It was about assembly language, Moving registers and issues with C memory pointers. Folks this is old school programming published back in the day...Man am I impressed

Looking at assembly language source code instantly transports me back to Star Trek:TNG, dialing up BBSs at 2400bps, ANSI art, and a completely nocturnal sleep schedule. Yeesh. Why is "happiness" a de-facto past-tense concept for me? Oh, never mind.

703 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:21:09am

re: #701 Killgore Trout

Yeah, that;s a huge story that's almost completely ignored. It should have been done long ago.

Probably needn't be said but Hitchens has been right all along.

704 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:22:41am

re: #535 Meitantei

Did Fukushima really do that? It's not like large swathes of land are not uninhabitable by humans, as far as I've heard.

Anyways, I'm a student at a very, very leftist college in St. Paul, and my friends have fallen completely under "Obama is a coward and is no better than Bush" mode. I'm not sure how to snap them out of it, or why the most relatively right-wing guy out of my group is the one defending him.

[Link: www.angryblacklady.com...]

"Poutrage" is a really good word.

705 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:27:52am

[This thing on?]

706 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:28:04am

re: #687 Gus 802

Deer...just took these. Not the greatest but here ya go.

Image: Deer-010.jpg
Image: Deer-009.jpg
Image: Deer-008.jpg

Winner of the Awww Factor Award for Sunday morning.

707 mr.fusion  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:28:16am

re: #689 Killgore Trout


Republicans were for reducing the debt before they were against.

And not only will they get away with it, they'll continue to blame the deficit on the President. It's just pathetic

708 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:29:22am

re: #706 allegro

Winner of the Awww Factor Award for Sunday morning.

Thanks! :)

709 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:29:36am

re: #703 Gus 802

Probably needn't be said but Hitchens has been right all along.

This also underscores the problem propping up dictators like Musharraf. It's much more difficult to throw pet dictators under the bus.

710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:31:24am

re: #600 Cannadian Club Akbar

Huh?

711 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:31:42am

re: #707 mr.fusion

And not only will they get away with it, they'll continue to blame the deficit on the President. It's just pathetic

They're going to try but I don't think they're going to win the PR war on this one. We'll see how the public reacts but I don't think it's going to end well for the Republicans.

712 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:33:18am

re: #710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh?

Dr. Phil

713 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:34:15am

re: #709 Killgore Trout

This also underscores the problem propping up dictators like Musharraf. It's much more difficult to throw pet dictators under the bus.

India has been looking at us with a raised eyebrow all along.

714 mr.fusion  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:36:07am

re: #711 Killgore Trout

They're going to try but I don't think they're going to win the PR war on this one. We'll see how the public reacts but I don't think it's going to end well for the Republicans.

I hope you're right, but their PR machine is just so much better than the Dems. You saw that article about Congress only passing 18 bills this session with most of those being about renamed buildings etc? If the shoe was on the other foot, everybody in the country would know about that.....

715 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:37:39am

re: #709 Killgore Trout

This also underscores the problem propping up dictators like Musharraf. It's much more difficult to throw pet dictators under the bus.

For the money we are paying him, we expect him to keep a better lid on developments within his own borders...

716 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:40:34am

re: #715 ralphieboy

For the money we are paying him, we expect him to keep a better lid on developments within his own borders...

Right now it's Asif Ali Zardari.

717 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:42:46am

re: #716 Gus 802

Right now it's Asif Ali Zardari.

Not entirely.

718 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:44:03am

re: #717 laZardo

Not entirely.

OK, thanks.

719 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:48:09am

re: #700 Gus 802

Whoa II. Kaboom!

Pakistan: US suspends $800m of military aid

And it only took 10 years!

720 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:48:41am

Murika's goalie is hot.

721 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:49:45am

Another report.

Obama team suspends aid to Pakistan

The United States is suspending $800 million in military aid to Pakistan, White House Chief of Staff William Daley said today.

"The Pakistani relationship is difficult, but it must be made to work over time," Daley said on ABC's This Week With Christiane Amanpour. "But until we get through these difficulties, we'll hold back some of the money that the American taxpayers have committed to give."

The $800 million suspension represents a little more than one-third of the $2 billion-plus in annual U.S. security assistance to Pakistan.

There have been tensions in the U.S.-Pakistan relationship since the early May raid that killed terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani compound. Some U.S. officials said Pakistan had to know bin Laden was hiding in their country; some Pakistanis protested a secret U.S. mission into their country...

"$2 billion-plus in annual U.S. security assistance to Pakistan" That's about 1/3rd of the James Webb Space Telescope budget right there.

722 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:50:19am

re: #700 Gus 802

Whoa II. Kaboom!

Pakistan: US suspends $800m of military aid

That ain't an insignificant sum there.

723 blueraven  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:51:04am

re: #714 mr.fusion

I hope you're right, but their PR machine is just so much better than the Dems. You saw that article about Congress only passing 18 bills this session with most of those being about renamed buildings etc? If the shoe was on the other foot, everybody in the country would know about that...

For their base...that's a feature, not a bug.

724 jvic  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:51:06am

re: #688 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, that loses her the fiscal conservative, kinda-old-fashioned-but-not-strictly-so-con vote.

There are a bazillion of those guys.

Everywhere... ;-)

725 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:51:13am

re: #722 Varek Raith

That ain't an insignificant sum there.

Apparently it's only about 1/3rd of the assistance.

SNAFU

727 Jerk  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:57:33am

Gary Johnson already called the pledge offensive: [Link: www.garyjohnson2012.com...]

728 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:57:42am

Direct Overt U.S. Aid and Military Reimbursements to Pakistan, FY2002-FY2012 (PDF)

Security Related

FY - 2009: $1,674,000,000
FY - 2010: $2,735,000,000
FY - 2011: N/A
FY - 2012 (Req.): $1,603,000,000

Account total for 2002-2010 is $14,177,000,000

Economic total for 2002-2010 is $6,536,000,000

Grand total for 2002-2010 is $20,713,000,000

729 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:58:23am

That's just overt aid. Then you have the black box of covert aid.

Good times.

730 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 9:59:05am

re: #726 Varek Raith

Lololol
On Fox, Coulter Says Tax Credits For Oil Companies Is "The Same Thing Media Matters Has"

When did oil companies become non-profit organizations?

731 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:00:57am

Anyone else find their computer/browser really slow down after about 500 comments?

732 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:02:07am

re: #731 Alexzander

Anyone else find their computer/browser really slow down after about 500 comments?

Nnnooo... Wwhhyyy woouuuld yooou saay thaaattt?

733 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:03:07am

re: #726 Varek Raith

Lololol
On Fox, Coulter Says Tax Credits For Oil Companies Is "The Same Thing Media Matters Has"

Maybe they can hack Media Matters' voicemails to discover the real truth...

734 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:03:27am

re: #732 JasonA

Nnnooo... Wwhhyyy woouuuld yooou saay thaaattt?

noooo iddeeaaa reaaaallllyyyyy....

Jjjuuuusstt aaaah straaaaannggeee feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeliinnng.

735 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:03:46am

Headan to bed. Nighty.

736 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:05:25am

re: #730 allegro

When did oil companies become non-profit organizations?

When Ann Coulter became something other than a completely unhinged hack.

737 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:06:59am
738 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:07:00am

re: #736 Lidane

When Ann Coulter became something other than a completely unhinged hack.

Actually, I suspect she's very well hinged... evil, mean, wicked, bad, and nasty but hinged.

739 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:07:10am

re: #726 Varek Raith

Lololol
On Fox, Coulter Says Tax Credits For Oil Companies Is "The Same Thing Media Matters Has"

Oh yeah. They're all going after Media Matters now. Trying to petition the IRS to remove their tax free status. It's all over the wingnut intertoobs. Obviously it's not the same thing. I think even the accountants for Exxon would tell you it's not the same. She's just having another "big giant raccoon fart" for a thought again.

740 laZardo  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:07:44am
741 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:07:52am

re: #737 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd have to be pretty hungry.

[Runs around screaming!]

742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:08:38am

re: #741 Gus 802

Can you imagine ordering that? On purpose? Then eating it?

743 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:08:45am

re: #739 Gus 802

Oh yeah. They're all going after Media Matters now. Trying to petition the IRS to remove their tax free status. It's all over the wingnut intertoobs. Obviously it's not the same thing. I think even the accountants for Exxon would tell you it's not the same. She's just having another "big giant raccoon fart" for a thought again.

Just goes to show how good Media Matters is and how threatened Fox is by having their actual shit shown for the stinking pile it is on a regular basis.

744 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:09:44am

re: #738 allegro

Actually, I suspect she's very well hinged... evil, mean, wicked, bad, and nasty but hinged.

She's utterly bugfuck insane, IMO. Evil, mean, nasty, etc. But still bugfuck insane. She sincerely believes the bullshit she spews and she makes reasoned debate impossible.

745 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:10:40am

re: #742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you imagine ordering that? On purpose? Then eating it?

Yeah. It's sort of like a miniature scene from the "Godfather" only on a plate and you have to eat it.

OK, I know it's not a horse's head. ;)

//

746 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:12:07am

re: #743 allegro

Just goes to show how good Media Matters is and how threatened Fox is by having their actual shit shown for the stinking pile it is on a regular basis.

Facts ruin the Fox News narrative. Can't allow that, so they have to shut Media Matters down.

747 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:13:14am

re: #745 Gus 802

"It's ... smiling at us."
-A Christmas Story

Many Icelanders consider the eye to be the best part of the head.
*barf*

748 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:13:56am

re: #742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you imagine ordering that? On purpose? Then eating it?

I don't care how hungry I am. NO. Just...NO.

I'd go completely vegan before I ever ate that.

749 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:14:47am

re: #747 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"It's ... smiling at us."
-A Christmas Story

Many Icelanders consider the eye to be the best part of the head.
*barf*

Mmmm, mmm. The gums are the best part. Do they use a special fork to get at the tooth roots?

//

750 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:19:26am
751 jvic  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:20:18am

re: #749 Gus 802

Mmmm, mmm. The gums are the best part. Do they use a special fork to get at the tooth roots?

//

That's a great comment but I...just can't...bring myself to upding it.

752 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:21:51am

re: #750 JasonA

Jamie Leigh Jones Loses Rape Case

Damn. She deserves better than this. KBR is evil.

753 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:26:05am

Giant Spy Blimp Battle Could Decide Surveillance’s Future

How many giant experimental spy blimps does the military need over Afghanistan, exactly?

That’s one of many questions the Senate Armed Services Committee is asking after an intramilitary battle has erupted over what many expect to be the future of aerial surveillance. The Army and the Air Force each have their own football field-sized airships in the works; the Senate panel wants to know why it should pay for both — especially as the Air Force seems fickle about its model and keeps changing the spy sensors on board. Legislators are asking: What gives?

This is more than some obscure bureaucratic hair-pull. The answer to those questions — and the winners of those fights — could determine the direction of U.S. intelligence-gathering for years to come.
...
A sign of the spy blimp’s rising stock: Retired Lt. Gen. David Deptula — who, until recently, was in charge of all Air Force intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) programs — is now the CEO of MAV6, a Vicksburg, Mississippi, startup building one of these next-gen airships for the military.

It’s part of a project called “Blue Devil.” The behemoth, 340-foot-long blimp and all of its spy gear should be ready for Air Force duty by January, Deptula promises. And if Blue Devil works as promised — staying four miles above Afghanistan for five days at a time — drones could suddenly seems like an expensive anachronism.

“It brings to bear a completely different concept for ISR: multiple sensors on one platform integrated with on-board processing and storage. It’s the first time we’re using a modular system on an aircraft to host a variety of sensors, and they can be rapidly changed for new or different sensors in a matter of hours,” Deptula tells Danger Room. “We’ve got the world’s largest ISR payload — and ‘real estate’ to host it, and nearly a supercomputer on board to process what they find.”

The Pentagon is planning to spend $4.5 billion to mount 15 more drone air patrols. The costs of operating, maintaining and processing the information from the roboplanes runs about $8,000 per hour. Deptula claims Blue Devil would run $1,000 per hour, because it requires fewer people (although that’s just an educated guess; the thing hasn’t flown yet). “A handful of Blue Devil orbits could achieve significantly greater ISR effectiveness for a fraction of that cost and save billions,” he insists. For now, the Air Force is spending $211 million on one of Deptula’s blimps.
...
Even muddier is the Air Force plan for what to do if the spy blimp wows the military if and when it goes to Afghanistan; there’s no follow-on effort in the budget, at the moment.

Making things murkier still is that there are two more giant blimp programs making their way through the military’s development chain.

The Armed Services Committee is kind of fed up. It’s demanding that the Pentagon appoint a single point person who can sort out which airship projects make sense, and which don’t. This is supposed to a time of coming budget cuts, after all. The sky is pretty big. But it’s not big enough for all these king-sized blimps.

Good times!

754 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:27:03am

re: #753 Gus 802

Oh, geez.
What is this, 1915?

755 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:29:45am

re: #754 Varek Raith

Oh, geez.
What is this, 1915?

Yeah. Did you like this part?

A sign of the spy blimp’s rising stock: Retired Lt. Gen. David Deptula — who, until recently, was in charge of all Air Force intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) programs — is now the CEO of MAV6, a Vicksburg, Mississippi, startup building one of these next-gen airships for the military.

756 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:30:11am
The Army and the Air Force each have their own football field-sized airships in the works;

Oh, yeah, terrorists? Please ignore the giant target in the sky.
Kthxbai.

757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:31:54am

re: #754 Varek Raith

We never got that blimp landing port in the Empire State Building to work. Perhaps it's time we tried it again.

When it absolutely, positively has to get there within the next month or so. Blimp Express.

758 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:33:00am

re: #757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We never got that blimp landing port in the Empire State Building to work. Perhaps it's time we tried it again.

When it absolutely, positively has to get there within the next month or so. Blimp Express.

Heh, like they'd let a highly explosive vehicle fly near any city whatsoever.
;)

759 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:33:19am
760 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:34:44am

re: #754 Varek Raith

Oh, geez.
What is this, 1915?

Oh. It mentions a service ceiling of 4 miles which is 21,120 feet. Afghanistan is of course well ASL in most place. So, say you're in Afghanistan at 5,000 ASL. That means 21,120 - 5,000 or 16,120 feet range to the spy blimp. That's within range of a FIM-92 Stinger. or close to a SA-24 Grinch 9K338 Igla-S.

761 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:36:18am

re: #756 Varek Raith

Oh, yeah, terrorists? Please ignore the giant target in the sky.
Kthxbai.

A) Get one large weather balloon. B) Attach IED to said weather balloon with wires. C) Float said weather balloon with IED next to blimp. D) KABOOM!

//

762 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:36:26am

re: #760 Gus 802

Oh. It mentions a service ceiling of 4 miles which is 21,120 feet. Afghanistan is of course well ASL in most place. So, say you're in Afghanistan at 5,000 ASL. That means 21,120 - 5,000 or 16,120 feet range to the spy blimp. That's within range of a FIM-92 Stinger. or close to a SA-24 Grinch 9K338 Igla-S.

The hell do we need a freaking zeppelin for anyway?
Lol.

763 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:36:46am

re: #761 Gus 802

A) Get one large weather balloon. B) Attach IED to said weather balloon with wires. C) Float said weather balloon with IED next to blimp. D) KABOOM!

//

Seriously.
Oy.

764 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:38:01am

I fell something went amiss in the design stages.
/

765 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:38:14am

re: #763 Varek Raith

Seriously.
Oy.

Don't even need wires. A cell phone trigger would do. Heck, a biplane with an oxygen tank (for the pilot) would also work.

766 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:39:43am

Ah, procurement.

We need a surveillance craft.
Design goes from a simple drone to a freaking blimp of silliness in a few short steps.

767 Winny Spencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:40:08am

T-Paw on Meet the Press - what a snoozefest!

768 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:40:51am

re: #753 Gus 802

Giant Spy Blimp Battle Could Decide Surveillance’s Future

Good times!

I figure Blue Devil will lose out to the LEMV, largely because the Army is pushing while the air force is being dragged. BD2 is going to use the LEMV-1's sensor package. Meanwhile the LEMV2 will have more, will stay up longer (though not as long as originally desired). The big battle LEMV has to fight is the Air Force's habitual grab for everything that flies even when they don't like the mission.

Given the huge overlap, I figure ISIS will get rolled into the BD/LEMV battle and the final result will be picked from the pieces.

On the other hand, Pelican isn't going to get cut. If it works as the initial tests show, it'll be an upgrade to the BD/LEMV/ISIS package. It'll also probably be the killer app that makes commercial blimps and dirigibles potentially viable.

For those not wanting to click the original article's links, the Big Deal of Pelican is that it has what amounts to dynamic ballast. This allows it to choose neutral or even negative bouyancy at any given altitude, including just above the ground. Translation: no need for tower and land-line personnel; a rough field landing site is plenty.

769 Lidane  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:43:19am

re: #767 Winny Spencer

T-Paw on Meet the Press - what a snoozefest!

FTFY

770 allegro  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:49:03am

re: #752 Iwouldprefernotto

Damn. She deserves better than this. KBR is evil.

Loved this quote...

Boartz had contended that the sex, which occurred in Iraq while Jones was blacked out, was consensual.

Well, your honor, she said yes just before she blacked out. Really.

W.T.F.

771 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:51:36am

Heh, I just found 10 bucks in a coffee cup on the shelf.
Sweet.

772 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:52:55am

re: #760 Gus 802

Oh. It mentions a service ceiling of 4 miles which is 21,120 feet. Afghanistan is of course well ASL in most place. So, say you're in Afghanistan at 5,000 ASL. That means 21,120 - 5,000 or 16,120 feet range to the spy blimp. That's within range of a FIM-92 Stinger. or close to a SA-24 Grinch 9K338 Igla-S.

Setting aside the fact that both these are IR, it's not quite as easy as you think. The Igla has an altitude limit of about 11,500 feet AGL (from launch ground level), or about 5K feet short. The Stinger's only good for another thousand feet.

Adding to this is the interesting internal design. First, not a single envelope but rather one containing several bladders (ala long-developed war blimp/dirigible design). Add ballistic resistance cloth, self-seal design on the envelope bottom, and the fact that helium isn't explosive, and it becomes surprisingly difficult to shoot down with just a handful of man-portable AAMs.

773 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:53:07am

re: #768 kirkspencer

Thanks!

The Blue Devil is $211 million. That's a lot of money for such a 350 foot long sitting duck. If I were AQ or the Taliban I would be doing all I can right now to bring it down. It really wouldn't take too much effort. But knowing how the USAF works they'll likely use it close to green zones. Call me a skeptic but I don't think this thing has a good future in hot zones.

Jalalabad is 1,814 ft ASL. Might be safe around there. In any event I smell a boondoggle with this one.

774 Gus  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 10:57:56am

re: #772 kirkspencer

Setting aside the fact that both these are IR, it's not quite as easy as you think. The Igla has an altitude limit of about 11,500 feet AGL (from launch ground level), or about 5K feet short. The Stinger's only good for another thousand feet.

Adding to this is the interesting internal design. First, not a single envelope but rather one containing several bladders (ala long-developed war blimp/dirigible design). Add ballistic resistance cloth, self-seal design on the envelope bottom, and the fact that helium isn't explosive, and it becomes surprisingly difficult to shoot down with just a handful of man-portable AAMs.

Then it's safe by the very nature or ability of the enemy. IOW, this will be a one time use sort of thing. As far as a more technologically advanced enemy this thing would be useless for the most part. $211 million is a lot of money in this current budget crisis we seem to be having. And that's not including operational costs. Then we're looking at the eventual pull-out of American troops in Afghanistan by 2014 or maybe even sooner. Now, if Afghanistan was going to help finance these ventures by way of their mineral holdings I would be a little more optimistic or less concerned.

775 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 11:14:43am

re: #773 Gus 802

Thanks!

The Blue Devil is $211 million. That's a lot of money for such a 350 foot long sitting duck. If I were AQ or the Taliban I would be doing all I can right now to bring it down. It really wouldn't take too much effort. But knowing how the USAF works they'll likely use it close to green zones. Call me a skeptic but I don't think this thing has a good future in hot zones.

Jalalabad is 1,814 ft ASL. Might be safe around there. In any event I smell a boondoggle with this one.

Ok, using you as a springboard but answering several of the 'why a zeppelin' posts...

Predator (RQ-1) purchase cost: $4.5 million (approx.).
Global hawk purchase cost: $15 million (approx).
Balloon cost: $200 million.

At first blush it's easy. 20:1 for preds, and 14:1 for Global Hawks? cool. But we get to details and things aren't as pretty.

First, the balloon's carrying about four (Global hawk) to 20 (Predator) times the sensors. Second, both the drones have a nominal 24 hour loiter limit. To match the 24x5 operation needs two sets of drones - one up, one down for maintenance and refuel.

So simple comparison for mission effectiveness becomes:
Balloon: $200 million.
RQ-4 (GH): $15 million * 4 platforms * 2 sets = $120 million.
RQ-1 (P): $4.5m * 20 * 2 = $180 million.

Two more considerations brought into play and suddenly the balloon is just as cost effective. First is fuel. both the RQs use a lot of AV-gas. (No, I don't have the numbers handy). Second, there's been a tremendous problem with RQs and field landings. We're getting an average of 10 uses per predator before it is destroyed, most frequently due to bad landings. Global Hawks, which use 'regular' airfields, don't crack up as frequently - roughly 25 uses per Hawk.

I've already mentioned how difficult the balloons are to bring down. Oh, not impossible, but the idea of a weather balloon with an IED is par with a 30.06 taking down an A-10. Consider that the balloon will have in addition to the things I mentioned above countermeasures that include signal jamming, flares, and on-board AAMs (no, not kidding) and it gets a little tougher to shoot one down. Not impossible, just very difficult.

Digressing, one project that I know was discussed while in open discussion (but no idea if still there) was the ancient zep-carrier updated. Specifically, in addition to everything else let the blimp carry a small group of UCAVs. Yes I know, shades of gaslight punk, and yet the concept works for LIC/MIC battlefields.

776 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 11:17:45am

re: #775 kirkspencer

And if the airship is unmanned, it wants nothing on earth more than to see groundfire signatures or a missile plume.

777 kirkspencer  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 11:35:27am

re: #776 Decatur Deb

And if the airship is unmanned, it wants nothing on earth more than to see groundfire signatures or a missile plume.

Yep.

What does it cost us to put it up?
What does it cost them to take it down?
What's the null mission rate (goes out, gets no intel of use)?

Now as a groundpounder by background, I'll tell you the advantages of version 2 of this. (Just like the predator got upgraded to the attack predator - RQ to MQ).

-- It can carry a bunch of small precision guided (LJDAM) munitions for constant on-station ground support - estimated 25% of a B-52's load - with 5 to ten day on-station loiter.
-- It can act as line of sight retrans, allowing better communications security. (broadcast to balloon and bounce instead of omnidirectional broadcast, plus can boost as well as relay low power signals.)
-- It can, with its huge number of sensors, provide a dedicated eye in the sky to each platoon plus forward squads in a brigade.

And all of these withOUT requiring Air Force coordination or thier habit of pre-emptiing assets for counter-air missions.

778 Robert O.  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 11:38:04am

Taking the religious right's logic further:

1. Children of European descent were more likely to have grown up with two parents during the Black Death than after the introduction of modern medicine.
2. Jews in Nazi Germany were more likely to have grown up with two parents (at least until you-know-what-happened) than in Israel today.

779 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 11:39:04am

re: #777 kirkspencer

Might be cheap, easy, and fun to maintain the airspace transit of a bunch of cheap decoys as well.

780 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 10, 2011 11:02:23pm

re: #731 Alexzander

Anyone else find their computer/browser really slow down after about 500 comments?

Yes, when I was using Explorer. I'm on Opera now, and no issues.


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