Tuesday Evening Open
Been doing some traveling yesterday and today, so if posts seem a bit infrequent, that would be why. Here’s an open thread while the world keeps turning…
Been doing some traveling yesterday and today, so if posts seem a bit infrequent, that would be why. Here’s an open thread while the world keeps turning…
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Ghost of Sionainn Tue, May 17, 2011 6:47:14pm |
I hope you’re having a great time. I’ve enjoyed the photos you posted…absolutely beautiful.
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 6:47:15pm |
So in other news I finally signed up for my Origins events today, any other Lizards going to Columbus Ohio this end of June?
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 6:48:57pm |
re: #2 jamesfirecat
So in other news I finally signed up for my Origins events today, any other Lizards going to Columbus Ohio this end of June?
What I would do right now for a trip. To a conference even. Just a trip.
What is Origins?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 6:49:57pm |
re: #2 jamesfirecat
So in other news I finally signed up for my Origins events today, any other Lizards going to Columbus Ohio this end of June?
No, I’m going to GenCon in August, I hope. But that got more likely today, as I got two sales, putting me on track for the month.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 6:50:27pm |
re: #3 Stanley Sea
What I would do right now for a trip. To a conference even. Just a trip.
What is Origins?
It’s a big gaming convention.
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 6:51:17pm |
re: #3 Stanley Sea
What I would do right now for a trip. To a conference even. Just a trip.
What is Origins?
Origins is a great big gaming convention that I’ve been attending with my mom and my brother (and dad every five years or so when he feels like coming along) for around tend years now…
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freetoken Tue, May 17, 2011 6:52:25pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
It’s a big gaming convention.
… and here I thought he was going to get in touch with his inner Australopithecine….
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 6:52:31pm |
I’m just packing for my trip to Lister on Friday before the world ends. Twenty some light years sounds like it may be a long trip, but I’ll take a pile of books and some chocolate bars.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 17, 2011 6:54:54pm |
Ads for Muslima dating and for dance clothes.
Trying to figure out what brought these ads on.
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albusteve Tue, May 17, 2011 6:55:12pm |
World Keeps On Turning
Peter Green…Fleetwood Mac
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danhenry1 Tue, May 17, 2011 6:55:32pm |
If you really want to watch some great sport Tampa, Boston tonight is a great way to get into hockey. Fast and furious. Fights nah but sometimes part of what soothes the savage in us…wow
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 17, 2011 6:56:48pm |
Um, are you sure the world is still turning?
Cause I just looked outside, and I can’t see any sign that it still is.
*both eyebrows up*
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 6:56:58pm |
re: #9 EmmmieG
Ads for Muslima dating and for dance clothes.
Trying to figure out what brought these ads on.
Mating rituals.
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darthstar Tue, May 17, 2011 6:58:23pm |
re: #8 b_sharp
I’m just packing for my trip to Lister on Friday before the world ends. Twenty some light years sounds like it may be a long trip, but I’ll take a pile of books and some chocolate bars.
On long road trips, I buy my wife maps of the areas we’re going to…she loves looking at maps while I’m driving. I don’t know if Rand McNally or AAA have maps for the trip to Lister.
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danhenry1 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:03:30pm |
EmmmieG.
If you can still look., and then up! Crane your neck….then the world is still turning.
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 7:04:03pm |
Is it just the primal female awakening? I don’t know, but I’m disgusted with Arnold. And I’m reading all about it. gah
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jaunte Tue, May 17, 2011 7:04:13pm |
The Senate has blocked a bill to repeal about $2 billion a year in tax breaks for the five biggest oil companies, a Democratic measure meant to respond to huge industry profits and $4-a-gallon gas prices.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 17, 2011 7:07:56pm |
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goddamnedfrank Tue, May 17, 2011 7:08:17pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
Is it just the primal female awakening? I don’t know, but I’m disgusted with Arnold. And I’m reading all about it. gah
It’s his sanctimonious hypocrisy that disturbs me most.
What do you see as the most pressing problem in the inner city today?
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 7:08:19pm |
re: #15 darthstar
On long road trips, I buy my wife maps of the areas we’re going to…she loves looking at maps while I’m driving. I don’t know if Rand McNally or AAA have maps for the trip to Lister.
I’ll have to check. I should pack my GPS too, I guess.
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darthstar Tue, May 17, 2011 7:09:52pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
Is it just the primal female awakening? I don’t know, but I’m disgusted with Arnold. And I’m reading all about it. gah
He refers to his affair as “the event”…I guess it (and its product) meant nothing to him.
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darthstar Tue, May 17, 2011 7:10:43pm |
re: #21 b_sharp
I’ll have to check. I should pack my GPS too, I guess.
Garmin sells a Galactic Positioning System device now? Coolio.
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albusteve Tue, May 17, 2011 7:11:42pm |
re: #23 darthstar
He refers to his affair as “the event”…I guess it (and its product) meant nothing to him.
he’s a wimp…can’t resist his own hedonism at others expence…a real asshole
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 7:12:18pm |
re: #3 Stanley Sea
You could head north for a weekend!
Invite, stands!
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 7:14:03pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
Arnold has lived down to my expectations. I’m sorry to say that.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, May 17, 2011 7:15:33pm |
re: #27 Floral Giraffe
Arnold has lived down to my expectations. I’m sorry to say that.
Yeah, he got out with me feeling kind of pleasantly surprised, and now this.
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 7:16:30pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
You could head north for a weekend!
Invite, stands!
If you’re going to head north, go all the way. Try a new country. Come to Canada and pitch a tent or two in my back yard.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 7:16:53pm |
re: #7 freetoken
… and here I thought he was going to get in touch with his inner Australopithecine…
SMACK!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 7:18:55pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
Is it just the primal female awakening? I don’t know, but I’m disgusted with Arnold. And I’m reading all about it. gah
We all knew he was a womanizer. We’ve seen more than one politician like him, but the only difference is that this time the voters knew he had such issues before they elected him. And were he not a movie star, his skirt chasing would have made him unelectable.
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albusteve Tue, May 17, 2011 7:26:35pm |
Long-haired country crooner Willie Nelson and his Teapot Party have endorsed Republican presidential candidate Gary Johnson.
Nelson is as stupid as a box of rocks…more of the same AmIdol bullshit
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:31:15pm |
re: #29 b_sharp
If you’re going to head north, go all the way. Try a new country. Come to Canada and pitch a tent or two in my back yard.
You don’t allow visitors to stay IN the house!?!?!
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 7:33:01pm |
re: #29 b_sharp
If you’re going to head north, go all the way. Try a new country. Come to Canada and pitch a tent or two in my back yard.
Thanks for the offer!
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:34:47pm |
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:35:25pm |
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 7:36:46pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
You could head north for a weekend!
Invite, stands!
OK, will figure this out! When is the airshow????
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 7:37:22pm |
re: #28 goddamnedfrank
Yeah, he got out with me feeling kind of pleasantly surprised, and now this.
Exactly
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 7:38:07pm |
re: #37 Stanley Sea
October. I’ve gotta nice place, better before the kiddies get out of school.
Prolly an hour or so north for you.
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 7:38:14pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 7:38:54pm |
re: #40 Stanley Sea
ROAD TRIP
Legal beach to drink on, no glass, though.
Minimal clothing required!
WOOT!
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 7:44:35pm |
L O to the fucking L
EricBoehlert Eric Boehlert
Today’s GOP: Trump, Palin Would Lose Even to Kucinich; [Link: bit.ly…]
Competent adversaries. Please.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:46:30pm |
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_RememberTonyC Tue, May 17, 2011 7:46:55pm |
Good evening Lizards. I have been impressed by Hillary Clinton’s performance as Secretary of State. But never have I been more impressed with HRC than I wasafter reading how she told Jimmy Carter and his phony baloney “elders” to take a hike …
[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com…]
Congrats to Hillary.
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jaunte Tue, May 17, 2011 7:47:26pm |
re: #42 Stanley Sea
Wow.
…Trump is not the weakest Republican in the two hypothetical match ups we tested with Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich’s lead over Sarah Palin if they were to face off would be 43-36. In that scenario Kucinich gets 16% of Republicans to Palin’s 12% of Democrats and leads her by 10 points with independents at 42-32.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:48:22pm |
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Skeetghazi Tue, May 17, 2011 7:49:53pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 7:50:12pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 7:53:17pm |
re: #41 Floral Giraffe
Legal beach to drink on, no glass, though.
Minimal clothing required!
WOOT!
Well, that definitely excludes me then.
Floral, why do you hate The Naked Behemoth?
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 7:54:30pm |
re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, that definitely excludes me then.
Floral, why do you hate The Naked Behemoth?
You block the sun at the beach!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 7:56:37pm |
re: #52 sattv4u2
You block the sun at the beach!
That’s. My. Fucking. Job!
Damn, buncha haters. Enjoy your skin cancer, then. :P
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 17, 2011 7:57:46pm |
Clint Webb Rules
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 7:57:50pm |
re: #45 _RememberTonyC
Good evening Lizards. I have been impressed by Hillary Clinton’s performance as Secretary of State. But never have I been more impressed with HRC than I wasafter reading how she told Jimmy Carter and his phony baloney “elders” to take a hike …
[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com…]
Congrats to Hillary.
Hillary actually tries to use facts when formulating foreign policy. I haven’t forgotten her fawning over Yasser ‘Arafish’, but she’s grown a lot since them.
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researchok Tue, May 17, 2011 7:59:21pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:00:01pm |
Dear Everyman who hopes to propose to his best gal,
You are officially and forever fucked now, thanks to this guy. Nothing you ever do will be good enough, and now you know who to hate for it.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 8:01:08pm |
re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth
HEH!
It’s the extra sunscreen, Dude!
Aren’t you supposed to be sleeping?
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 17, 2011 8:02:25pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:04:00pm |
re: #60 Floral Giraffe
Aren’t you supposed to be sleeping?
YOU’RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!
/at least not until the check clears, anyway
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:05:08pm |
“We’re gonna talk about Immigration because that is the issue our President chose to talk about after he flew to Pakistan and killed Osama in the first presidential assassination since FDR rolled over Hitler in Wheelchairasourus….”
Jon Stewart
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austin_blue Tue, May 17, 2011 8:05:22pm |
re: #12 b_sharp
Deepak Chopra shows once again he just doesn’t get it.
The thing about atheists like this guy is that he is just fervent as a Shiite Baptist or a Salafist. As far as “faith” is concerned, you couldn’t get a playing card between them.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:05:28pm |
re: #60 Floral Giraffe
HEH!
It’s the extra sunscreen, Dude!
Aren’t you supposed to be sleeping?
Theres no truth in advertising (names)!
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Political Atheist Tue, May 17, 2011 8:06:22pm |
re: #41 Floral Giraffe
Just thinkin’ beach…
Image: Scenario_Of_A_Sunset.jpg
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 17, 2011 8:06:44pm |
re: #58 researchok
Thanks. That sort of thing is heartbreaking.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 17, 2011 8:06:59pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 17, 2011 8:07:59pm |
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Political Atheist Tue, May 17, 2011 8:09:07pm |
re: #68 EmmmieG
Thanks.
BTW that’s Morro Bay.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:10:21pm |
re: #64 austin_blue
The thing about atheists like this guy is that he is just fervent as a Shiite Baptist or a Salafist. As far as “faith” is concerned, you couldn’t get a playing card between them.
I don’t think Chopra qualifies as an atheist. Does he?
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researchok Tue, May 17, 2011 8:10:31pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:11:41pm |
re: #63 jamesfirecat
“We’re gonna talk about Immigration because that is the issue our President chose to talk about after he flew to Pakistan and killed Osama in the first presidential assassination since FDR rolled over Hitler in Wheelchairasourus…”
Jon Stewart
Bad move, Jon. Obama is just hyping immigration issues to try to portray Republicans as racists. He’s not trying to actually pass a bill. You’re smarter than that, Jon. Don’t hype political stunts just because they’re from someone you like.
The Bluto-esque WWII reference was funny, though.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:13:36pm |
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TedStriker Tue, May 17, 2011 8:13:49pm |
re: #45 _RememberTonyC
Good evening Lizards. I have been impressed by Hillary Clinton’s performance as Secretary of State. But never have I been more impressed with HRC than I wasafter reading how she told Jimmy Carter and his phony baloney “elders” to take a hike …
[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com…]
Congrats to Hillary.
“Do you want to meet with Carter?” Clinton is looking at papers, and just says “No.” Then she pauses, looks up and adds, “HELL no!!!”
Heh…definitely a Southern answer.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:14:28pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:14:51pm |
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:14:57pm |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
Bad move, Jon. Obama is just hyping immigration issues to try to portray Republicans as racists. He’s not trying to actually pass a bill. You’re smarter than that, Jon. Don’t hype political stunts just because they’re from someone you like.
The Bluto-esque WWII reference was funny, though.
Dark were you watching the same show that I was?
Right after he made this comment he had the new “Senor” Spanish Corespondent on who argued that Obama is only pandering to Latino’s rather than trying to get something serious passed.
Disagree or agree with that particular view… but it sounds like your and Jon’s views overlap quite a bit even if you disagree over why he’s engaging in this particular political faint…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:17:52pm |
re: #78 jamesfirecat
Right after he made this comment he had the new “Senor” Spanish Corespondent on who argued that Obama is only pandering to Latino’s rather than trying to get something serious passed.
Some Latinos agree with that assessment.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:18:57pm |
re: #76 sattv4u2
What about right now?
For as long as he’s on a beach, near a beach, or can so much as smell the ocean air.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:19:03pm |
re: #78 jamesfirecat
Dark were you watching the same show that I was?
Right after he made this comment he had the new “Senor” Spanish Corespondent on who argued that Obama is only pandering to Latino’s rather than trying to get something serious passed.
Disagree or agree with that particular view… but it sounds like your and Jon’s views overlap quite a bit even if you disagree over why he’s engaging in this particular political faint…
All I did was read your comment. I’m watching Law&Order: Criminal Intent, not Stewart.
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ProBosniaLiberal Tue, May 17, 2011 8:19:20pm |
re: #78 jamesfirecat
In any case, there’s a racist strain the Republican Party today that has become out of control. The West Virginia legislator is an example.
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:20:06pm |
re: #64 austin_blue
The thing about atheists like this guy is that he is just fervent as a Shiite Baptist or a Salafist. As far as “faith” is concerned, you couldn’t get a playing card between them.
The point is, Hitchens is dying, even though he’s doing everything possible to change that, and he wrote a powerful article about his experience, including his loss of voice, and Chopra came out with a pile of new-age woo laced bull shit.
I don’t agree with everything PZ says, but Chopra needs to have his woo shoved up his ass and PZ did just that.
If you think an atheist’s stance is based on faith, then you have a pretty broad definition of faith.
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:21:43pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
All I did was read your comment. I’m watching Law&Order: Criminal Intent, not Stewart.
Well then I’m happy to have provided you with context!
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:22:12pm |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
Bad move, Jon. Obama is just hyping immigration issues to try to portray Republicans as racists. He’s not trying to actually pass a bill. You’re smarter than that, Jon. Don’t hype political stunts just because they’re from someone you like.
The Bluto-esque WWII reference was funny, though.
Why would Obama try to portray Repubs as racists? What example do you have of his doing so?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:22:15pm |
re: #83 b_sharp
The point is, Hitchens is dying, even though he’s doing everything possible to change that, and he wrote a powerful article about his experience, including his loss of voice, and Chopra came out with a pile of new-age woo laced bull shit.
WTF dude?!? Use a *SPOILER ALERT* next time.
/ :)
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:22:30pm |
re: #82 ProLifeLiberal
In any case, there’s a racist strain the Republican Party today that has become out of control. The West Virginia legislator is an example.
Still, if John Boener is really clever he can turn this pandering to the GOP’s advantage. I’d suggest a counteroffer, one that Obama won’t like very much but is designed to be humane. Stake out a good position and then force Obama to negotiate. If he insists on further pandering, he’ll look like a posturing asshole.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:23:01pm |
re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth
For as long as he’s on a beach, near a beach, or can so much as smell the ocean air.
So if he goes down to the shore with a cold, or with a clothespin on his nose it’s over!
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:23:02pm |
re: #85 b_sharp
So should atheists define themselves as a faith group in order to get chaplains? (lol, talking point!)
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:24:31pm |
re: #87 Dark_Falcon
Still, if John Boener is really clever he can turn this pandering to the GOP’s advantage. I’d suggest a counteroffer, one that Obama won’t like very much but is designed to be humane. Stake out a good position and then force Obama to negotiate. If he insists on further pandering, he’ll look like a posturing asshole.
I doubt Boener can find a “humane” counter offer that he can make in good faith of his party supporting and Obama wouldn’t like to take.
Don’t forget Dark this is the party that demanded we build a moat between the USA and Mexico and fill it with alligators….
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:24:51pm |
re: #90 jaunte
That too, I haven’t heard that as an actual story tho >>
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:25:31pm |
re: #91 jamesfirecat
so do you also take juvenile glee in intentionally mispronouncing ‘Boener’?
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:26:53pm |
Ahh dammit
Nice guy,,, met him two or three times
[Link: mlb.mlb.com…]
Twins legend, Hall of Famer Killebrew dies
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:27:45pm |
re: #91 jamesfirecat
I doubt Boener can find a “humane” counter offer that he can make in good faith of his party supporting and Obama wouldn’t like to take.
Don’t forget Dark this is the party that demanded we build a moat between the USA and Mexico and fill it with alligators…
Ha Ha, very funny. That was just a joke Obama told.
re: #93 windsagio
THUMP!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:27:56pm |
re: #93 windsagio
Juveniles shouldn’t be watching Glee, otherwise they might catch tey ghey.
/
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ProBosniaLiberal Tue, May 17, 2011 8:28:10pm |
re: #93 windsagio
I take glee in doing it too. ^_^
I’m bit too angry and bitter to accept Republican Solutions to anything about much right now. Give me half a decade, and I might loosen up.
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:29:09pm |
re: #89 windsagio
So should atheists define themselves as a faith group in order to get chaplains? (lol, talking point!)
Chaps? I don’t think all atheists wear chaps.
Oh, you said chaplains.
Does the chaplain come with cookies?
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:29:17pm |
re: #96 Dark_Falcon
Ha Ha, very funny. That was just a joke Obama told.
re: #93 windsagio
THUMP!
How quickly we forget…
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
“I actually think a moat might be a very good idea and I’m wondering how many alligators it would take to secure the entire border.”
Also keep in mind that wasn’t just some random kook, that was Joe Walsh, THE VICE CHAIRMAN of the Committtee on Homeland Security.
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:29:24pm |
re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth
Funnily I was just talking with one of my friends that just moved to SF about that. That has to be the gayest (in the % of students sense) school anywhere, except the actually gay school that I guess is in the same show.
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TedStriker Tue, May 17, 2011 8:30:29pm |
re: #77 Dark_Falcon
Which is funny, given that she’s from Illinois.
She spent enough time in AR, so she picked up some redneck lingo ;-P
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:30:43pm |
re: #98 ProLifeLiberal
Then you’ve got problems, pal. We’re in a time of divided government and that means to two sides have to at least hear the other side out (not listen, just hear) without being hostile.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:32:27pm |
re: #100 jamesfirecat
I’m pretty sure that was meant as a joke too.
You hear that, Boehner? It’s called “benefit of the doubt”. Everybody gets one. One.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:32:44pm |
re: #100 jamesfirecat
How quickly we forget…
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
“I actually think a moat might be a very good idea and I’m wondering how many alligators it would take to secure the entire border.”
Also keep in mind that wasn’t just some random kook, that was Joe Walsh, THE VICE CHAIRMAN of the Committtee on Homeland Security.
That stuff from Walsh is meant facetiously. What he’s saying is “Build the damn fence and put in the damn sensors and quit dragging your feet!”
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:33:33pm |
re: #105 Dark_Falcon
What’s funny is that the fence is only somewhat less laughable :p
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:33:54pm |
re: #105 Dark_Falcon
That stuff from Walsh is meant facetiously. What he’s saying is “Build the damn fence and put in the damn sensors and quit dragging your feet!”
And build it with teeth, dammit.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:34:01pm |
re: #102 talon_262
She spent enough time in AR, so she picked up some redneck lingo ;-P
“Bill,,, I will whup yo’ ass if I find you with another of those skanks”
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bratwurst Tue, May 17, 2011 8:34:36pm |
re: #105 Dark_Falcon
That stuff from Walsh is meant facetiously. What he’s saying is “Build the damn fence and put in the damn sensors and quit dragging your feet!”
Complete the danged fence!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:34:42pm |
re: #101 windsagio
Funnily I was just talking with one of my friends that just moved to SF about that. That has to be the gayest (in the % of students sense) school anywhere, except the actually gay school that I guess is in the same show.
What? Now they’re actually teaching kids how to be gay? Outrageous!
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 8:35:08pm |
re: #66 Rightwingconspirator
Meh, that’s a harbor!
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:35:11pm |
re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth
My friend Sarah calls it “Gay Hogwarts”. That’s all I really know ><
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:36:10pm |
re: #106 windsagio
What’s funny is that the fence is only somewhat less laughable :p
In 50 years, the flow will be in the other direction, so the fence needs to be considered and then reconsidered.
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:36:22pm |
re: #105 Dark_Falcon
That stuff from Walsh is meant facetiously. What he’s saying is “Build the damn fence and put in the damn sensors and quit dragging your feet!”
Okay Dark who am I to question how much faith you put in the Republican Party?
I’ll trust Obama has your vote locked up tight should the GOP Run Palin/ Bachman ticket next year?
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Four More Tears Tue, May 17, 2011 8:38:14pm |
re: #113 b_sharp
In 50 years, the flow will be in the other direction, so the fence needs to be considered and then reconsidered.
I say we make it a ramp, that we can drive off it and into Mexico.
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Targetpractice Tue, May 17, 2011 8:39:19pm |
re: #114 jamesfirecat
Okay Dark who am I to question how much faith you put in the Republican Party?
I’ll trust Obama has your vote locked up tight should the GOP Run Palin/ Bachman ticket next year?
Palin/Bachmann ‘12? “Stop Laughing, We’re Serious!”?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:40:08pm |
re: #107 b_sharp
And build it with teeth, dammit.
WTF? What’s the matter with you, dude? Teeth are meant for building boats, not fences.
/no, wait, that’s fingernails, not teeth. my bad. never mind.
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freetoken Tue, May 17, 2011 8:40:44pm |
Newt has to play dodge-ball:
Gingrich showered with confetti, faith questions
Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich refused to be pinned down Tuesday as a believer in creationism or evolution as the origin of human life during a gathering of Minnesota social conservatives, where he also endured a protester’s confetti shower.
The former House speaker adopted a nuanced stance in the thorny debate over how life first formed, telling his Minnesota Family Council audience that both theological and scientific views can be right.
“I believe that creation as an act of faith is true and I believe that science as a mechanical process is true,” Gingrich said at an afternoon session that preceded a more formal address. “Both can be true. I don’t think there is necessarily a conflict between the two.”
The answer left skeptics among the audience, the type Gingrich is working particularly hard to soothe in the early days of his campaign.Retired plumber Marty Gavic said Gingrich’s unwillingness to embrace creationism is a strike against his candidacy.
“When he talks about God in government, then I believe if he’s a Godly man he should say that ‘I believe God created the heavens and earth because that’s in the Bible,’” said Gavic, who was among a few dozen people who sat through a screening of a film Gingrich co-produced on religion in American government.
[…]
Uh-oh, the GOP “base” isn’t digging Newt’s “nuance”.
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Political Atheist Tue, May 17, 2011 8:42:40pm |
re: #111 Floral Giraffe
True but that harbor has a nice beach that runs from near where I took that to the famous big rock.
Image: Morro_Rock.JPG
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Targetpractice Tue, May 17, 2011 8:43:24pm |
re: #118 freetoken
Newt has to play dodge-ball:
Gingrich showered with confetti, faith questions
Uh-oh, the GOP “base” isn’t digging Newt’s “nuance”.
I keep wondering if the GOP leadership has just decided to flip a coin and see whether they’ll A) run a base-pleasing candidate and suffer a total blow-out next November or B) run a “RINO” candidate and risk a third-party candidate splitting the vote.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:44:50pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 8:45:35pm |
The Thunder appear to have no idea how to handle Dirk Nowitzki.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:46:16pm |
re: #114 jamesfirecat
Okay Dark who am I to question how much faith you put in the Republican Party?
I’ll trust Obama has your vote locked up tight should the GOP Run Palin/ Bachman ticket next year?
Yes, yes he does. If it were those two on the Republican ticket, I’d vote for Obama.
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:47:52pm |
And on that note, the long, quiet drive home (finally) beckons
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:48:38pm |
re: #124 Dark_Falcon
Yes, yes he does. If it were those two on the Republican ticket, I’d vote for Obama.
Actually Dark, given the current state of the Republican candidates running for Prez… I would honestly be interested in hearing, who would you be willing to vote for over Obama and who would so offend your desire for a sane /intelligent leader of the US that would vote for Obama rather than see you in office?
I’m asking this only because I consider you to be a near picture perfect example of a reasonable and logical conservative, so I’m eager to hear your thoughts because anyone you wouldn’t vote for is probably going to get blown out of the water if they win the primary….
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sattv4u2 Tue, May 17, 2011 8:49:09pm |
re: #123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Thunder appear to have no idea how to handle Dirk Nowitzki.
Was worried the 10 day lay off would have affected them
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 8:50:08pm |
re: #127 sattv4u2
Me too. Rested or Rusty… was gonna be one or the other.
Until tonight, no way to know.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:50:30pm |
re: #124 Dark_Falcon
Yes, yes he does. If it were those two on the Republican ticket, I’d vote for Obama.
Hell, I’d vote for General Zod.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 8:51:16pm |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Although, either team could win the series and I’d be okay.
sad face Celtics fan.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 8:51:41pm |
re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth
Kneel before Zod.
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bratwurst Tue, May 17, 2011 8:52:18pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:53:06pm |
re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Kneel before Zod.
This isn’t one of those role-playing things, is it? ‘Cuz I like you, but I’m not into dudes that way. Plus, I’m telling your wife.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:53:38pm |
re: #126 jamesfirecat
Actually Dark, given the current state of the Republican candidates running for Prez… I would honestly be interested in hearing, who would you be willing to vote for over Obama and who would so offend your desire for a sane /intelligent leader of the US that would vote for Obama rather than see you in office?
I’m asking this only because I consider you to be a near picture perfect example of a reasonable and logical conservative, so I’m eager to hear your thoughts because anyone you wouldn’t vote for is probably going to get blown out of the water if they win the primary…
Romney I’d happily vote for, and I think we’d all agree he’s sane. I’d also vote for Tim Pawlenty without any hesitation. Yes, he’s a creationist; But I also think him sane and trustworthy.
Newt Gingrich, I’m of two minds about. I’m often disgusted by the stuff he does, but he’s a good ideas man and a highly competant organizer. I can’t honestly say what I’d do if he were the nominee, though its about 55-45% in favor of voting for him (but that could change).
Palin, Paul and Bachmann I will never vote for. They are all incompetant for the position of President, and I will not vote for someone manifestly unfit for the job.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:54:18pm |
re: #132 bratwurst
Tough, but fair.
That’s right. No racial, gender, class or age discrimination. Equal oppression for everyone!
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 8:56:06pm |
re: #134 Dark_Falcon
Romney I’d happily vote for, and I think we’d all agree he’s sane. I’d also vote for Tim Pawlenty without any hesitation. Yes, he’s a creationist; But I also think him sane and trustworthy.
Newt Gingrich, I’m of two minds about. I’m often disgusted by the stuff he does, but he’s a good ideas man and a highly competant organizer. I can’t honestly say what I’d do if he were the nominee, though its about 55-45% in favor of voting for him (but that could change).
Palin, Paul and Bachmann I will never vote for. They are all incompetant for the position of President, and I will not vote for someone manifestly unfit for the job.
Gotcha, sounds like T-Paw is the come from behind man to watch out for them. Mittens is going to get sunk by the fact that he’s Republican Brand John Kerry only without the war service and with passing universal healthcare for his state (WITH A MANDATE! SHOCK! HORROR!) And Newt has too much baggage to make it through a serious political campaign in my opinion.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 8:56:30pm |
re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth
That’s right. No racial, gender, class or age discrimination. Equal oppression for everyone!
Opression can be fun…
just saying!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 8:56:33pm |
re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth
16th Amendment
The new government shall have power to lay and collect significant tax on all income, from whatever source derived, without regard to any census or enumeration; with tax breaks and tax waivers granted for all large corporations and industries (i.e. no change from previous American government).
HA!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:57:28pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 8:57:51pm |
re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth
Amazingly insightful answer :D
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:57:53pm |
re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth
Hell, I’d vote for General Zod.
I voted for General Zod, as opposed to Specific Zod who was away looking for Massive Trouble.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 8:59:09pm |
re: #138 Floral Giraffe
Opression can be fun…
just saying!
I’ll come over to your place so you can sell me on the idea. What shouldn’t I wear?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 8:59:19pm |
re: #137 jamesfirecat
Gotcha, sounds like T-Paw is the come from behind man to watch out for them. Mittens is going to get sunk by the fact that he’s Republican Brand John Kerry only without the war service and with passing universal healthcare for his state (WITH A MANDATE! SHOCK! HORROR!) And Newt has too much baggage to make it through a serious political campaign in my opinion.
‘Mittens’?
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 8:59:33pm |
re: #142 b_sharp
And, then there was Zod, who was looking for trouble, and wanted to nurture it!
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 8:59:57pm |
re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth
I’ll come over to your place so you can sell me on the idea. What shouldn’t I wear?
Non-tearaway clothes.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 9:00:31pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:00:33pm |
re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth
Anything comfortable?
Latex preferred!
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 9:00:55pm |
re: #145 Floral Giraffe
And, then there was Zod, who was looking for trouble, and wanted to nurture it!
Baby Zod, thy name is Trouble.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 9:01:36pm |
re: #137 jamesfirecat
Though given the current flood crisis, Bobby Jindal might gain enough gravitas to gain some traction. I’d have ‘wait and see’ take on him. If he emphasizes leadership and avoids craziness, I’d vote for him. If he sticks to pandering to SoCons, I would not support him.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:01:39pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:03:28pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
If he continues to do a good job, managing the floods, I might forgive him.
And maybe even support him.
If Reine does. She’s a lot closer to him, than I am.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 9:03:54pm |
A neighbor just had the entire top 3 inches of soil removed from their yard (1/2 acre or so) and replaced with sod. To save money, they laid the sod themselves.
Wait for it…
They knelt before Sod.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 9:04:54pm |
re: #151 Floral Giraffe
No, it’s Giraffe!
Silly!
Hello, Floral! Today saw me get two more sales, and now I’m on track for the month. Three more should get me where I want to be. A good day.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, May 17, 2011 9:05:04pm |
re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A neighbor just had the entire top 3 inches of soil removed from their yard (1/2 acre or so) and replaced with sod. To save money, they laid the sod themselves.
Wait for it…
They knelt before Sod.
OUT!
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:05:39pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
Hello, Floral! Today saw me get two more sales, and now I’m on track for the month. Three more should get me where I want to be. A good day.
WOOT!
Caps & bolded for congratulations!
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 9:05:45pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
Though given the current flood crisis, Bobby Jindal might gain enough gravitas to gain some traction. I’d have ‘wait and see’ take on him. If he emphasizes leadership and avoids craziness, I’d vote for him. If he sticks to pandering to SoCons, I would not support him.
How do you feel about the time he tried to pass out Stimulus Money in gigantic check form to the people of his state (with his own name on it) after spending so long arguing against it?
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 9:06:35pm |
re: #148 Floral Giraffe
:swoon: *thud*
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 9:07:15pm |
re: #157 jamesfirecat
How do you feel about the time he tried to pass out Stimulus Money in gigantic check form to the people of his state (with his own name on it) after spending so long arguing against it?
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
Standard issue political hypocrisy. I don’t like it, but I’m used to it.
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 9:07:26pm |
re: #157 jamesfirecat
How do you feel about the time he tried to pass out Stimulus Money in gigantic check form to the people of his state (with his own name on it) after spending so long arguing against it?
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
OK, it’s time for bed.
I read that as ‘Stimulus Monkey’.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:08:18pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you get that tick bite checked by a doctor?
Nagging lady here, wants to know.
If not, do you have an appointment for TOMORROW?
*glares*
Really likes Veggie & wants him to be safe.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 9:08:51pm |
Holy cow. Nowitzki went 24 for 24 from the free throw line. 48 points.
Thunders gonna have to hire Jeff Gallooly to stop him.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:09:37pm |
re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A neighbor just had the entire top 3 inches of soil removed from their yard (1/2 acre or so) and replaced with sod. To save money, they laid the sod themselves.
Wait for it…
They knelt before Sod.
LOL!
Plants prefer 18 inches deep, to 3 inches.
Or, so I am told.
LOL!
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jamesfirecat Tue, May 17, 2011 9:10:08pm |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
Standard issue political hypocrisy. I don’t like it, but I’m used to it.
Meh, either way its a moot point in my mind since even though it seems like everyone and his uncle in the Republican Party is running for President I haven’t heard one peep from Bobby Jindal.
Maybe he’s afraid that getting into direct debate with Obama would lead to him having another “brain freeze” like when he tried to rebut Obama’s state of the union in 2009.
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engineer cat Tue, May 17, 2011 9:10:08pm |
re: #134 Dark_Falcon
Romney I’d happily vote for, and I think we’d all agree he’s sane. I’d also vote for Tim Pawlenty without any hesitation. Yes, he’s a creationist; But I also think him sane and trustworthy.
Newt Gingrich, I’m of two minds about. I’m often disgusted by the stuff he does, but he’s a good ideas man and a highly competant organizer. I can’t honestly say what I’d do if he were the nominee, though its about 55-45% in favor of voting for him (but that could change).
Palin, Paul and Bachmann I will never vote for. They are all incompetant for the position of President, and I will not vote for someone manifestly unfit for the job.
how about daniels? i expect him to announce soon…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 9:10:18pm |
re: #163 Floral Giraffe
Doc is seeing me in the morning. The swelling is very impressive.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 9:10:38pm |
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Doc is seeing me in the morning. The swelling is very impressive.
THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 9:11:09pm |
re: #165 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
Plants prefer 18 inches deep, to 3 inches.
Or, so I am told.
LOL!
18 inches?
Oh crap.
Best I can do is 5 inches.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 17, 2011 9:12:03pm |
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Doc is seeing me in the morning. The swelling is very impressive.
Glad you are going to the doctor.
Hope it’s easy for you & heals quickly.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 17, 2011 9:12:17pm |
re: #167 engineer dog
how about daniels? i expect him to announce soon…
I’d vote for Mitch Daniels. He’s no loon and he’d keep it sane.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 9:13:47pm |
re: #171 Floral Giraffe
Itches like a mofo. It’s right at the belt line, so it is constantly irritated. Kind of like my wife.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 9:13:50pm |
re: #162 b_sharp
Was that thud your jaw, your head or something else?
Jaw, head, underside of my desk…
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TedStriker Tue, May 17, 2011 9:17:53pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, May 17, 2011 9:20:35pm |
G’night knuckleheads. Kneel before Tod!
(Spengo)
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b_sharp Tue, May 17, 2011 9:20:51pm |
I’m off to bed before I say something stupid and embarrass everyone here.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 9:24:22pm |
re: #178 b_sharp
The ship sailed on that one months ago. Stick around and say something new, stupid, and embarrassing.
/
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, May 17, 2011 9:24:42pm |
re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
G’night knuckleheads. Kneel before Tod!
(Spengo)
A Mom and Dad save the world reference. I am impressed.
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engineer cat Tue, May 17, 2011 9:25:07pm |
re: #172 Dark_Falcon
I’d vote for Mitch Daniels. He’s no loon and he’d keep it sane.
i guess democrats pray that their nominees are not wimps, and republicans pray that they’re not loons
“Vote for Papoon! he Not Insane!!”
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windsagio Tue, May 17, 2011 9:32:19pm |
Y’all have a good weekend, going up to seattle for my Mom’s birthday :D
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 9:35:16pm |
re: #182 windsagio
Why would you punish your mom in such a way on her birthday?
/
Get her something nice from me.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 17, 2011 9:58:21pm |
Hmmm. News is saying that Carla Bruni is pregnant. Could really help her husband in the elections.
Hey! Michelle! I hear they make really cute maternity power suits.
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Targetpractice Tue, May 17, 2011 10:01:42pm |
re: #184 EmmmieG
Hmmm. News is saying that Carla Bruni is pregnant. Could really help her husband in the elections.
Hey! Michelle! I hear they make really cute maternity power suits.
God, I could actually hear the wingnuts now. “She’s not really pregnant! Show us the sonogram!”
“It’s not really his! Show us the DNA test!”
Ugh.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 17, 2011 10:09:49pm |
re: #184 EmmmieG
Hey! Michelle! I hear they make really cute maternity power suits.
You talkin’ ‘bout Bachmann? A pregnant Michelle could very well be the only woman in history to look at her swelling belly and wonder “But how can I be sure it’s really mine”?
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lostlakehiker Tue, May 17, 2011 11:02:07pm |
re: #18 jaunte
The Senate has blocked a bill to repeal about $2 billion a year in tax breaks for the five biggest oil companies, a Democratic measure meant to respond to huge industry profits and $4-a-gallon gas prices.
The problem is, it’s a lie, that talking point about “huge oil profits”. The oil industry makes money, true. But so do a lot of industries. Relative to their expenses and capital investment, oil companies make no better than average profits. One simple and easily checked point of evidence is that the oil industry does not enjoy unusual price-earnings ratios.
If that’s too much, then the rest of industry should also be forced to disgorge its “huge profits”.
The Obama administration should be ashamed of having demagogued the “speculators” and the oil industry, with half-truth-styled lies.
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sagehen Tue, May 17, 2011 11:11:19pm |
Newt:
“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.”
Pass the popcorn, please.
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engineer cat Tue, May 17, 2011 11:12:48pm |
re: #187 lostlakehiker
The problem is, it’s a lie, that talking point about “huge oil profits”. The oil industry makes money, true. But so do a lot of industries. Relative to their expenses and capital investment, oil companies make no better than average profits. One simple and easily checked point of evidence is that the oil industry does not enjoy unusual price-earnings ratios.
If that’s too much, then the rest of industry should also be forced to disgorge its “huge profits”.
The Obama administration should be ashamed of having demagogued the “speculators” and the oil industry, with half-truth-styled lies.
why do they need 2 billion dollars in tax breaks?
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engineer cat Tue, May 17, 2011 11:13:49pm |
re: #187 lostlakehiker
The problem is, it’s a lie, that talking point about “huge oil profits”. The oil industry makes money, true. But so do a lot of industries. Relative to their expenses and capital investment, oil companies make no better than average profits. One simple and easily checked point of evidence is that the oil industry does not enjoy unusual price-earnings ratios.
If that’s too much, then the rest of industry should also be forced to disgorge its “huge profits”.
The Obama administration should be ashamed of having demagogued the “speculators” and the oil industry, with half-truth-styled lies.
p.s. it seems that they made well over 100 billion in profits last year
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Lidane Tue, May 17, 2011 11:25:04pm |
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Lidane Tue, May 17, 2011 11:26:31pm |
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laZardo Tue, May 17, 2011 11:29:12pm |
re: #190 engineer dog
p.s. it seems that they made well over 100 billion in profits last year
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laZardo Tue, May 17, 2011 11:29:58pm |
re: #193 laZardo
Partial PIMF, the “billions” figure is on a monthly basis.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, May 17, 2011 11:46:24pm |
re: #188 sagehen
Newt:
“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.”
[Video]
Pass the popcorn, please.
Sunday doesn’t exist, capish? The only way we can have an honest conversation is by pretending it never happened. Listen, I really want this and would rather sell my soul and appear monumentally stupid than continue enraging our moronic base.
Ryan has really handed the GOP a poison pill, and they swallowed it with gusto. Newt’s not stupid, he can see how unpopular Ryan’s budget is, how much damage it’s causing them. The Senate Republicans stripped the Medicare changes from the bill out of abject fear that the Democrats might bring it up for a “rub their noses in their own shit” vote. Republicans are going home to their districts and facing virtual torch and pitchfork opposition to the plan. But Newt will walk back anything, grovel and lie to further his dream of becoming king of the dipshits rather than face the wrath of the freepers and never get nominated.
re: #189 engineer dog
why do they need 2 billion dollars in tax breaks?
Shut up, that’s why!
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engineer cat Tue, May 17, 2011 11:53:20pm |
“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood, because I
have said publicly those words were inaccurate and unfortunate”
note to newt - do NOT try this one on your wife
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laZardo Tue, May 17, 2011 11:55:34pm |
re: #195 goddamnedfrank
But Newt will walk back anything, grovel and lie to further his dream of becoming king of the dipshits rather than face the wrath of the freepers and never get nominated.
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sagehen Wed, May 18, 2011 12:01:07am |
Callista Gingrich looks like a younger Cindy McCain.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 18, 2011 12:06:18am |
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laZardo Wed, May 18, 2011 12:08:02am |
re: #199 Irenicum
Hey kids. Howdilidoo there neighborinos.
I will never unhear your posts in that voice. :D
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goddamnedfrank Wed, May 18, 2011 12:08:42am |
re: #198 sagehen
Callista Gingrich looks like a younger Cindy McCain.
Something about her ain’t right, kind of freaks me out.
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Irenicum Wed, May 18, 2011 12:10:49am |
re: #203 Irenicum
Ugh. I should totally check what I “post” before I send. Sorry SB.
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Irenicum Wed, May 18, 2011 12:17:05am |
And in other news. I’m totally grooving on Eric Clapton music two days in a row. The blues sets me straight better than almost anything else. My soul senses reality better because of his soulful voice.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 18, 2011 12:21:06am |
re: #204 Irenicum
Ugh. I should totally check what I “post” before I send. Sorry SB.
Thank you for that. I was just about to hate you forever and slander you all over the interwebs. Well, mostly just here on LGF.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 18, 2011 12:30:50am |
re: #207 Irenicum
Have I ever mention that your nic reads like a yet undiscovered periodic element? One that many would be reluctant to handle for a number of reasons.
/teasing
Nite y’all.
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Irenicum Wed, May 18, 2011 12:42:14am |
re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth
Wow. I never thought of that. But I do try to be periodically interesting….
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 1:58:42am |
re: #205 Irenicum
And in other news. I’m totally grooving on Eric Clapton music two days in a row. The blues sets me straight better than almost anything else. My soul senses reality better because of his soulful voice.
Parts of “Layla” (the album version with Duane Allman) are truly the Voice of Redemption
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 18, 2011 2:17:37am |
where’s John Doe when we need him
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 18, 2011 2:18:05am |
he says my coffee’s too strong
so like the rest of his life he waters it down
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researchok Wed, May 18, 2011 3:13:04am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 3:17:15am |
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freetoken Wed, May 18, 2011 3:18:10am |
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BongCrodny Wed, May 18, 2011 3:30:03am |
re: #187 lostlakehiker
The problem is, it’s a lie, that talking point about “huge oil profits”. The oil industry makes money, true. But so do a lot of industries. Relative to their expenses and capital investment, oil companies make no better than average profits. One simple and easily checked point of evidence is that the oil industry does not enjoy unusual price-earnings ratios.
If that’s too much, then the rest of industry should also be forced to disgorge its “huge profits”.
The Obama administration should be ashamed of having demagogued the “speculators” and the oil industry, with half-truth-styled lies.
Seven of the top ten companies in the world are oil and gas companies.
Somebody’s making some money at this game.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 3:33:11am |
The other point is that their economics are far removed from any principles that govern free markets.
These companies get together regularly in the White House to plan “national energy strategy”. And because these talks are so sensitive, they are also top secret.
What do you call a group of companies that meet in secret to jointly determine their business policies in advance?
A cartel.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, May 18, 2011 3:35:24am |
re: #221 ralphieboy
And they get to write a lot of legislation, too. A lot of the energy policy bills introduced by the GOP are literally written by the energy industry lobbyists.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:20:29am |
re: #180 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
One of my favorite movies.
My daughter has a tee-shirt with a picture of Mount Rushmore on it with Jon Lovitz’s face beside it, the caption reads, “What about Jon Lovitz”.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:23:47am |
re: #184 EmmmieG
Hmmm. News is saying that Carla Bruni is pregnant. Could really help her husband in the elections.
I can’t think of a single think that could help Sarkozy more.
Unless, of course, one of his major opponents could get arrested for rape.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 4:29:08am |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can’t think of a single think that could help Sarkozy more.
Unless, of course, one of his major opponents could get arrested for rape.
Ben Stein has a disgusting piece up at American Thinker blaming the victim and wringing his hands that the US justice system treats rich people the same way it does poor people.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:33:34am |
re: #225 iceweasel
Yeah… not gonna read that.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 4:34:34am |
re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah… not gonna read that.
The link goes to my page about it, not to the article. I won’t link American Thinker.
In other news, hi! how you doing, FBV?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:35:28am |
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 4:36:49am |
re: #227 iceweasel
The link goes to my page about it, not to the article. I won’t link American Thinker.
In other news, hi! how you doing, FBV?
I read it. It parrots a lot of the talking points from France in the article I posted yesterday. The only real difference is Stein didn’t tell us what a hell of a guy the alleged rapist is.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:37:33am |
re: #227 iceweasel
That was a rotten thing for him to say.
Why would a maid steal an airline ticket? WTF?
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 4:38:17am |
re: #229 RogueOne
I read it. It parrots a lot of the talking points from France in the article I posted yesterday. The only real difference is Stein didn’t tell us what a hell of a guy the alleged rapist is.
Did you do a page on that french doofus, Bernard Henri Levy or whatever his name is? I was wondering what your own feelings about perp walks are.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:38:27am |
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 4:38:58am |
re: #230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was a rotten thing for him to say.
Why would a maid steal an airline ticket? WTF?
I think Ben Stein is just nuts. He probably loses shit and blames it on the maids.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 4:39:03am |
AZ might have the 2 worst sheriffs in the nation….fools on the left and idiots on the right.
Dupnik won’t release more info about SWAT shooting of Tucson man
[Link: azstarnet.com…]
The Pima County Sheriff’s Department will release no more information about the circumstances surrounding the killing of Jose Guerena during the serving of a search warrant by the department’s SWAT officers May 5 at his home.Two weeks after the shooting the department has yet to disclose exactly what they were searching for in the Guerena home as well as three other residences in the area that were subjects of a drug investigation. Court documents that show what officers were searching for in the case have been sealed and what was seized as evidence has also been sealed.
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On May 5, five members of the SWAT team fired 71 shots at Guerena while serving a search warrant at the 7100 block of South Redwater Drive. He was shot 60 times.The 26-year-old former Marine was sleeping at about 9:30 a.m. after working the graveyard shift at Asarco’s Mission Mine when his wife woke him saying she heard noises outside and saw a man was at their window. Guerena told his wife to hide in a closet with their 4-year-old son, his wife said. He grabbed an AR-15 rifle and moments later was slumped in the kitchen, mortally wounded from a hail of gunfire.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 4:41:41am |
re: #231 iceweasel
Did you do a page on that french doofus, Bernard Henri Levy or whatever his name is? I was wondering what your own feelings about perp walks are.
No, I posted it in the overnight thread. RE: the perp walk. It’s news and if it’s going to be done to everyone then I don’t really have a problem with it. If the person turns out to be innocent it isn’t the fault of the press that he was arrested and charged.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 4:42:14am |
An article a´bout the BS article: [Link: www.salon.com…]
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 18, 2011 4:43:52am |
re: #227 iceweasel
The link goes to my page about it, not to the article. I won’t link American Thinker.
In other news, hi! how you doing, FBV?
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can’t think of a single think that could help Sarkozy more.
Unless, of course, one of his major opponents could get arrested for rape.
Setting aside his actual guilt or innocence, which will be evaluated in court, the most interesting issue is that quick-and-dirty polling indicates something like 57% of Frenchmen believe he could have been set up by the French administration. Makes our birthers seem positively benign.
[Link: www.slate.com…]
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 4:45:04am |
The shooter last week in MO went to the base where I attended Basic training. This guy killed a soldier where I went to my officer basic course, Huachuca, best base left in the US.
Man guilty in drive-by death of soldier from Fort Huachuca
[Link: azstarnet.com…]
A 25-year-old Tucson man has been convicted of second-degree murder in the death of a Fort Huachuca soldier.Jurel Dionne Roberson also was convicted of drive-by shooting, three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and being a prohibited gun possessor.
Roberson was accused of shooting Robert Allen Glenn, 25, and Justin Harris, 20, shortly after all three men left Club Envy, 6211 E. Speedway, on Nov. 3, 2007.
Glenn died as a result of his injuries. Harris survived, and a third soldier, Grady Gilmer, escaped injury.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 4:45:37am |
re: #236 ralphieboy
An article a´bout the BS article: [Link: www.salon.com…]
Thanks, I updated my page to add that and hat tipped you.
re: #235 RogueOne
No, I posted it in the overnight thread. RE: the perp walk. It’s news and if it’s going to be done to everyone then I don’t really have a problem with it. If the person turns out to be innocent it isn’t the fault of the press that he was arrested and charged.
That’s my feeling about them as well. :-)
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_RememberTonyC Wed, May 18, 2011 4:50:43am |
Good morning Lizards. The story of the IMF boss and the hotel housekeeper may be about to get even more bizarre. The alleged victim may have HIV or AIDS
[Link: www.nypost.com…]
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 4:52:06am |
He just needs to get up and explain that he only did it because he is so passionate about Europe and loves it so much…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 4:56:27am |
re: #237 Decatur Deb
When the story broke, I linked it here.. with something like the following caption…
“He’s gonna blame Sarkozy”.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 5:04:46am |
re: #235 RogueOne
No, I posted it in the overnight thread. RE: the perp walk. It’s news and if it’s going to be done to everyone then I don’t really have a problem with it. If the person turns out to be innocent it isn’t the fault of the press that he was arrested and charged.
For me, the perp walk is unfortunate in the context of “innocent until proven guilty”. But of course, if it’s going to be done at all then it has to be done to everyone.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:06:26am |
Homeland security chief stresses that “very, very, very few people” get hands-on treatment at U.S. airports
[Link: www.politifact.com…]
We rate her statement Pants On Fire.
My 18 yr old thin, attractive, big-boobed SiL flew to her folks house this last weekend. I made a side bet with my wife that out of the 3 opportunities for a pat down she’d get pulled aside at least twice. I won.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 5:06:48am |
re: #243 iossarian
For me, the perp walk is unfortunate in the context of “innocent until proven guilty”. But of course, if it’s going to be done at all then it has to be done to everyone.
I think it’s possible to make a pro-perp walk argument, in the interest of transparency. We don’t whisk people off the street and no one knows what happened to them. It’s all open and you know they’re booked say at precinct 19, housed at Rikers’, etc.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 5:08:36am |
re: #245 iceweasel
I think it’s possible to make a pro-perp walk argument, in the interest of transparency. We don’t whisk people off the street and no one knows what happened to them. It’s all open and you know they’re booked say at precinct 19, housed at Rikers’, etc.
As BS pointed out, it is about “patterns of events”, black ghetto kids are criminals, while jet-setting European bankers are not. I think the case is clear, or rather black and white.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:08:42am |
re: #245 iceweasel
I think it’s possible to make a pro-perp walk argument, in the interest of transparency. We don’t whisk people off the street and no one knows what happened to them. It’s all open and you know they’re booked say at precinct 19, housed at Rikers’, etc.
My nephew (from saudi) makes that comparison all the time. He told me that’s what frequently happens in Riyadh. A black car pulls up, a bunch of guys jump out and grab someone, and then they don’t see or hear from them for a long time if at all. Sometimes our system sucks but it could always be worse.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 18, 2011 5:08:52am |
re: #244 RogueOne
Homeland security chief stresses that “very, very, very few people” get hands-on treatment at U.S. airports
[Link: www.politifact.com…]My 18 yr old thin, attractive, big-boobed SiL flew to her folks house this last weekend. I made a side bet with my wife that out of the 3 opportunities for a pat down she’d get pulled aside at least twice. I won.
Duh. Very, very, very few people are 18, thin, attractive, and big-boobed.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:11:04am |
re: #248 Decatur Deb
Duh. Very, very, very few people are 18, thin, attractive, and big-boobed.
It’s a shame isn’t it? I blame fast food.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 5:12:04am |
re: #247 RogueOne
My nephew (from saudi) makes that comparison all the time. He told me that’s what frequently happens in Riyadh. A black car pulls up, a bunch of guys jump out and grab someone, and then they don’t see or hear from them for a long time if at all. Sometimes our system sucks but it could always be worse.
Exactly. It’s true that the perp walk is humiliating, especially for the innocent, but at least there’s no chance of them just vanishing. I think the police forces in lots of countries operate the way your nephew describes. I’d rather be on the front page of the Daily News than whisked off to no-one-knows-where.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 5:14:38am |
I think S-K is trying the moral equivalent of the “too big to fail” argument…
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 5:14:46am |
re: #245 iceweasel
I think it’s possible to make a pro-perp walk argument, in the interest of transparency. We don’t whisk people off the street and no one knows what happened to them. It’s all open and you know they’re booked say at precinct 19, housed at Rikers’, etc.
re: #247 RogueOne
My nephew (from saudi) makes that comparison all the time. He told me that’s what frequently happens in Riyadh. A black car pulls up, a bunch of guys jump out and grab someone, and then they don’t see or hear from them for a long time if at all. Sometimes our system sucks but it could always be worse.
Very good points. I am reading that the more level-headed French criticism (i.e., people not named Bernard) is centered on the fact that the US-style perp walk has the effect (deliberately or not) of making the accused look guilty.
This is a far smaller problem than disappearing people off the street, obviously, but still a problem.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 5:16:13am |
re: #248 Decatur Deb
Duh. Very, very, very few people are 18, thin, attractive, and big-boobed.
Those diligent security officers have to fill their quotas somehow!
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 18, 2011 5:20:16am |
re: #253 iossarian
Those diligent security officers have to fill their quotas somehow!
Yeah—but seriously, this is an example of ‘accidental’ profiling, and the Bad Guys know it, and won’t be sending many such people through the airports. Profiling is self-defeating if you are dealing with a competent enemy.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 5:23:05am |
re: #252 iossarian
re: #247 RogueOne
Very good points. I am reading that the more level-headed French criticism (i.e., people not named Bernard) is centered on the fact that the US-style perp walk has the effect (deliberately or not) of making the accused look guilty.
This is a far smaller problem than disappearing people off the street, obviously, but still a problem.
I’m not sure how much of a problem it is. The jurors won’t necessarily have seen the perp walk coverage, and we already have rules like not handcuffing people in the courtroom and so on, letting them wear street clothes, to avoid the appearance of guilt.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 18, 2011 5:26:28am |
Sun’s up. We’ve been having a very cool Spring, allowing unusual chances for outside work. BBL.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:31:10am |
I really like this guys blog. Here’s his take on the french alleged rapist and his bail hearing:
War Declared Against France
[Link: blog.simplejustice.us…]
Whether DSK committed the crime alleged or not, this isn’t the sort of crime for which bail would not be granted. It might be high bail based on the nature of the offense and potential sentence, say $100,000, or low bail based on the nature of the defendant, a man whose entire life is vested in his responsible position in the international community, and who can’t exactly run off to Morocco and hide.But he could sneak on a train to Montreal wearing a fake mustache and grab the first flight to Aix-en-Provence, living out the rest of his life as an itinerant painter. Judge Jackson saw that coming a mile away.
Which creates the current conundrum. Does this mean that all wealthy French guys must be remanded? Is this the legacy of Roman Polanski? Well, yes. That’s exactly what this means, because the decision to remand ignored the many considerations that otherwise apply to a bail determination, all trumped by the argument that he has “the means, the motive and the connections to flee.”
People keep bringing up Roman Polanski and I think it’s a good point. If we know that we could have serious problems getting a suspect back from France is it really in the best interest of justice to grant them bail even if it’s something we would normally do?
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 5:33:31am |
re: #257 RogueOne
Good points. It strikes me that’s exactly the case where you don’t give bail. If he was a US citizen they could revoke his passport and maybe let him out. This guy has nothing to hold him here though, and every reason to flee.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 5:35:22am |
re: #255 iceweasel
I’m not sure how much of a problem it is. The jurors won’t necessarily have seen the perp walk coverage, and we already have rules like not handcuffing people in the courtroom and so on, letting them wear street clothes, to avoid the appearance of guilt.
Very true, although the possibility of media influence on the trial still exists. It’s just a question of where you draw the line.
re: #257 RogueOne
People keep bringing up Roman Polanski and I think it’s a good point. If we know that we could have serious problems getting a suspect back from France is it really in the best interest of justice to grant them bail even if it’s something we would normally do?
I would grant bail with an amount that would actually hurt the accused in the case of flight (which is what bail is meant to do after all).
If we can pay for a couple dozen school teachers in the Bronx for a decade with the proceeds, he can fuck off as far as I’m concerned.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 5:38:25am |
re: #259 iossarian
re: #257 RogueOneI would grant bail with an amount that would actually hurt the accused in the case of flight (which is what bail is meant to do after all).
If we can pay for a couple dozen school teachers in the Bronx for a decade with the proceeds, he can fuck off as far as I’m concerned.
What about justice for the woman he attacked? And we know she’s not the only one. The State has to defend the victims and seek justice for them.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:40:30am |
re: #260 iceweasel
What about justice for the woman he attacked? And we know she’s not the only one. The State has to defend the victims and seek justice for them.
How sad is it that the lady has already had to hire a lawyer. She’s the victim.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 5:41:53am |
re: #261 RogueOne
How sad is it that the lady has already had to hire a lawyer. She’s the victim.
Some dirtball in the media will eventually publish her name too, despite our rape shield laws.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 5:46:06am |
re: #260 iceweasel
What about justice for the woman he attacked? And we know she’s not the only one. The State has to defend the victims and seek justice for them.
Yeah, I thought of that after I posted the comment above. But balancing the rights of the accused and the accuser is always going to involve some kind of compromise. Otherwise, why would you ever grant bail?
Maybe the accuser should get some kind of say over where the bail money goes (I’m talking generally now, not particularly in the context of this specific case).
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:46:30am |
IN Sheriff: If We Need to Conduct RANDOM HOUSE to HOUSE Searches We Will
[Link: www.mikechurch.com…]
According to Newton County Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., random house to house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.
Speaking under the condition of anonymity, a local city Police Chief with 30 years experience in law enforcement directly contradicted the Newton County Sheriff’s blatant disregard for privacy & liberty, stating that as an American first, such an action is unconscionable and that his allegiance is to the Indiana and federal Constitutions respectively. However, he also concurred that the ruling does now allow for police to randomly search homes should a department be under order by state or federal officials or under a department’s own accord.
I have no idea who Mike Church is, or if the sheriff actually said this, but if he did I hope the people remember this when election time rolls around.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 5:49:04am |
re: #261 RogueOne
How sad is it that the lady has already had to hire a lawyer. She’s the
victim.
Alleged victim. He looks guilty, obviously, but this is a feature, not a bug, of the justice system.
Should it be harder for rich people to buy their way out of trouble, and easier for poor people to defend themselves? Absolutely.
But that would be SOCIALISM!
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 5:49:23am |
re: #264 RogueOne
You know, if you live in a neighborhood with a high percentage of white-collar criminals and tax evbaders, then you whould welcome random audits.
Or just police controls: “Hello, sir, we see you’re driving a brand-new BMW. Can we see your tax returns for the past five years, please?”
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:51:55am |
re: #266 ralphieboy
You know, if you live in a neighborhood with a high percentage of white-collar criminals and tax evbaders, then you whould welcome random audits.
Or just police controls: “Hello, sir, we see you’re driving a brand-new BMW. Can we see your tax returns for the past five years, please?”
Sometimes it’s hard to tell if people are being sarcastic or not. I’m going under the assumption you were…
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 5:58:49am |
SanFran PD takes another hit:
Mission SFPD Officers Videotaped in Apparent Theft from Julian Hotel
[Link: missionlocal.org…]
The press release also states that the police report maintains that the room’s resident, Jesus “Jessie” Reyes, 64, matched a description provided to SFPD by a confidential informant. The report states that Reyes agreed to let police search his minivan and then offered to let them search his room, where they found methamphetamine.Reyes was arrested, but prosecutors dropped charges against him on May 4 after Guerrero failed to show up to testify despite being issued a subpoena. According to his attorney, Deputy Public Defender Cindy Elias, Reyes had never been arrested before.
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The video release comes less than a week after the Public Defender’s Office released surveillance footage that they say documents a similar incident on Dec. 30 at the Jefferson Hotel, in which Guerrero is also seen leaving an SRO room with a large bag that was not booked into evidence.The evidence gathered so far is evidence of systematic misconduct within the Police Department, said Public Defender Jeff Adachi.
Arresting Jesus is bad karma.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 6:00:38am |
re: #267 RogueOne
Sometimes it’s hard to tell if people are being sarcastic or not. I’m going under the assumption you were…
I didn’t think that one needed a sarc tag, but here it is, retroactively:
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, May 18, 2011 6:11:06am |
re: #268 RogueOne
SFPD has been fucked for a long, long time. It’s interesting how different the attitude of people towards cops is when they’ve lived in a place with a corrupt and incompetent police department.
As a reminder of how fucked up the SFPD is:
[Link: abcnews.go.com…]
Guy stabbed to death, no knife found, blood found both outside and inside the apartment, a neighbor reporting hearing banging and his door slamming several times, and the cops decided to treat it as a suicide.
Why? Because his door was locked. If someone had just stabbed you and run out of your apartment, wouldn’t you lock the door? I would.
That guy was my coworker. A nice guy.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, May 18, 2011 6:14:09am |
re: #270 Obdicut
Oh, and the real reason that they treated it as a suicide— they didn’t want another unsolved homicide on the books. They do that a lot; anytime they can avoid ruling something a homicide, they do.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 6:16:06am |
Gotta run folks,. I have to go to IU this morning and I’m already an hour later than I wanted. Enjoy the day people.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 6:18:19am |
re: #272 RogueOne
Gotta run folks,. I have to go to IU this morning and I’m already an hour later than I wanted. Enjoy the day people.
Later, Rogue! Enjoy your day!
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 6:19:45am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, which remains in a soggy weather pattern that has turned the area into a skyscraper’s version of the Pacific Northwest. Moss and mold seems to be growing at every turn and we may eventually see a full day’s worth of sun about Sunday.
In other news, the hypocritical news item of the day has to go to Iran, which is busy railing against US sanctions imposed against Iran as propaganda for all manner of malfeasance, all while Iran had no problem murdering its own citizens for the regime to remain in power; has no problem with Syria’s Assad doing the same, or for its proxy terror groups murdering Israelis at every opportunity.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 18, 2011 6:26:04am |
Bolden admitted to investigators that he committed the killing and was motivated by his dislike for security officers and police, police said.
While they guy was a security guard, he wasn’t a rent-a-cop. (Not that it matters) This dude will get the needle.
[Link: www2.tbo.com…]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 18, 2011 6:28:16am |
re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar
I sure messed that up. Guy murdered was a security guard, shooter will get the needle.
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 6:31:41am |
Here’s a memo to Tom Friedman about the chances for an Arab-Israeli peace deal (and particularly a Palestinian-Israel deal). No deal can be had when the Palestinians refuse to undertake their most essential obligation under Oslo - agreeing to a 2-state solution.
When Hamas, which has reconciled with Fatah and rejoined the PA, refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist and doesn’t include Israel on a map other than to use as targeting data for its terror plots, Israel lacks a partner in peace.
Israel can and has shown an uncommon willingness to swap land for peace, but the Gaza disengagement should have disabused the world of the notion that land for peace will work when one party to the deal doesn’t accept Israel’s existence. Instead of using Gaza to build a productive society, the Palestinian leadership turned the region into an armed camp for a terror war against Israel using fellow Palestinians as human shields. Palestinian propaganda continues touting those killed in these attacks as martyrs for the cause of liberating all of Israel from Israeli control.
That is not the framework for peace, and Netenyahu and other Israeli leaders would not be carrying out their sworn obligation to defend Israel from its enemies if it granted still more concessions to Palestinians when Palestinian obligations go unfulfilled.
Housing can be swapped - and has been in the past - it was, and never has been, the real stumbling block to peace no matter how much the left in Israel and the pro-Palestinians try to spin it. The history of Israel’s land swaps disprove that time and time again (Camp David, Gaza disengagement).
Palestinians simply can’t accept a Jewish state of Israel alongside a Palestinian state - regardless of what borders are delineated on a map. The border incursions weren’t about Israel capturing the West Bank, Golan and Gaza in 1967, but called for liberating all of Israel for the Palestinians; a tacit call for Israel’s destruction.
These are the partners in peace that Friedman and others like him think Israel should be making still more concessions to in the hopes that the Palestinians will somehow moderate.
Frankly, the recent history has shown that whenever Israel has made concessions, the result has been to portray Israel as weak and terror groups, including Hamas (still part of the PA) has unleashed waves of terror. Israel makes concessions and gets terror as a consequence. Israel doesn’t make concessions, and it still gets threats of terror. With that calculus, there’s no reason to make further concessions. The onus should be on the Palestinians to show that they are truly committed to a 2-state solution.
To that end, that means a full repeal of the Hamas charter and PLO/PA charter provisions calling for Israel’s destruction. Yet, we all know that will never happen since Hamas’ raison d’etre is to seek Israel’s destruction as a religious and political goal. Hamas considers Israel’s very existence as an abomination against Israel, and phrases its call to jihad as a duty for all Muslims. This isn’t a partner in peace, but the call by a terror group to commit genocide should it have the means at its disposal.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:03:46am |
Republicans (and three “energy state Democrats”) block the elimination of oil company subsidies in the Senate:
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Fiscal responsibility!
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Semper Fi Wed, May 18, 2011 7:05:04am |
Good morning lizards. It’s a bit breezy this morning and temp expected to ‘maybe’ reach 70F. today. A warming trend begins tomorrow. Hope everyone’s happy.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:08:30am |
re: #278 lawhawk
In the context of Friedman’s connection between the IP conflict and US energy policy (extremist anti-Israel factions control the largest oil reserves), what do you make of the Republican’s brave fight to continue subsidizing oil?
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 7:20:19am |
re: #282 iossarian
US energy policy is a mess, subsidies or not.
US doesn’t get most of its energy from the Middle East. It actually gets the most imports from Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Nigeria, and Venezuela. Supporting the Saudis doesn’t help wean the US from foreign dependency. Higher energy costs doesn’t help the economic recovery - and the price jumps we’ve seen (whether due to speculation or actual disruptions/concerns over viable supplies in the ME) are creating a real drag on the economy, increasing transport costs and energy prices.
Building alt energy is integral to a comprehensive energy policy (which the US has lacked for much of its history), and many of the same oil companies are also working on alt-energy as a diversification tactic. That means that if they’re not getting a straight subsidy for oil production/development/research, they may be getting it through the alt-energy channels. Eliminating the subsidies wont kill the oil companies, but I think it sends pricing signals to the oil industry that prices should be expected to further increase because the lag time on production from opening sites to drilling is so long. Even if Obama were to open up the entire US coast to drilling, it would be years before anyone sees a drop of that oil make its way through a pipeline to a refinery for ultimate distribution.
BTW, it’s rich that Friedman talks about US energy policy and extremist anti-Israel factions control the largest oil reserves, when he repeatedly touts the Saudi “peace” plan, all while the Saudis are helping Bahrain crack down against protesters, and looking to back stability in the region through continued support of autocratic regimes lest the Iranians take advantage to their own end.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 7:23:00am |
Other than Canada, none of the states we import most of our oil from are thriving free-market democracies. And it is detrimental to our long-term interests to continue to support regimes like Chavez or the Saudi princes.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 7:24:51am |
re: #284 ralphieboy
Other than Canada, none of the states we import most of our oil from are thriving free-market democracies. And it is detrimental to our long-term interests to continue to support regimes like Chavez or the Saudi princes.
If Canada is an oil-rich nation, produces all of its own oil and exports to other countries, why does gasoline in Canada cost $6/gallon?
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Kronocide Wed, May 18, 2011 7:28:51am |
re: #187 lostlakehiker
The problem is, it’s a lie, that talking point about “huge oil profits”. The oil industry makes money, true. But so do a lot of industries. …
The Obama administration should be ashamed of having demagogued the “speculators” and the oil industry, with half-truth-styled lies.
The oil companies should operate in a real free market like all the other industries, without tax breaks and special interest influence. It seems the level of lobbying by big energy dwarfs all other industries except ag and military.
Oil is not like other industries in that respect.
Oil is also the key industry demagoguing and lying about AGW and carbon release. If you want to talk about honesty and doing the right thing for the country, Oil is far from being like all the other industries. They are the worst.
Cry me a river.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:29:41am |
re: #285 Alouette
If Canada is an oil-rich nation, produces all of its own oil and exports to other countries, why does gasoline in Canada cost $6/gallon?
TRICK QUESTION! IN CANADA IT’S LITRES!
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:32:26am |
Oil is fungible. By basing our energy strategy on oil (regardless of where it comes from), we directly support those regimes that essentially survive because of it.
I haven’t read Friedman enough to know about his take on the Saudis - I read the linked article and was more interested in the “managing the unavoidable, avoiding the unmanageable” connection made there.
re: #283 lawhawk
US energy policy is a mess, subsidies or not.
And whose fault is that, in your opinion?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:32:33am |
Speaking of oil ticks…
According to my doctor, and much to my wife’s dismay… I will live.
But I do have a 15cm long inflammation across my hip from my tick bite.
Fuckin’ tick.
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Kronocide Wed, May 18, 2011 7:33:23am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 7:33:38am |
re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
TRICK QUESTION! IN CANADA IT’S LITRES!
/
Maybe I should have said, the price of gas in Canada is the equivalent of $6/gallon.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:37:59am |
re: #291 Alouette
Maybe I should have said, the price of gas in Canada is the equivalent of $6/gallon.
Taxation.
[Link: blogs.marketwatch.com…]
To pay for such frivolities as healthcare for all. Madness.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 7:47:38am |
When liberals attack….
Newt Gingrich hit with glitter
A protester dumped a bunch of glitter on Newt Gingrich and his wife tonight at a book-signing in Minneapolis. The man approached the couple during the event at a downtown Minneapolis hotel and showered the rainbow-colored confetti on the pair. He then yelled, “stop the hate” and “feel the rainbow,” presumably a nod to gay rights. Liberal activist Robert Erickson appears to behind the shimmery mess.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:50:41am |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, May 18, 2011 7:51:05am |
re: #294 Killgore Trout
That’s wrong but hilarious.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:53:36am |
Poe is so worthy of animation… Awesome!
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 7:54:45am |
re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A fabulous protest.
Dude’s an idiot.
Idiotic is a word I reserve for acts such as passing laws that ban the mentioning of homosexuality.
Oh, and claiming that you cheat on your wife because you love your country (though Shakespeare would approve of that one).
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 8:00:48am |
re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Raven, as interpreted by Christopher Walken:
The Raven, as interpreted by the Simpsons:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 8:01:51am |
re: #299 iossarian
I’m not a Newt supporter…
Hitting Ann Coulter in the face with a pie is assault.
Throwing red paint on someone wearing fur is assault.
Throwing confetti on Newt is assault.
Not a major big deal, but worth 10 days in jail, IMO.
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Kronocide Wed, May 18, 2011 8:01:59am |
Meh, it was stupid. Wow, he gets on YT and it makes a small story, then back to business for both sides. It doesn’t really do anything.
The real idiocy is people buying Newt’s BS.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 8:02:15am |
Is the Tweet button on lgf busted? It opens twitter but doesn’t automatically cut and paste the link and title onto twitter anymore. Just me?
/I’ve had some computer problems lately
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 8:03:05am |
re: #300 lawhawk
I’ve watched the Walken video many times. Just so perfect.
There’s a youtube of Vincent Price reciting “The Tell-Tale Heart”, perfect - er.
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 8:04:22am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good to hear that you’ll live. Did the doc say what it was other than a real pain in the side?
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Skeetghazi Wed, May 18, 2011 8:04:23am |
re: #303 Killgore Trout
Is the Tweet button on lgf busted? It opens twitter but doesn’t automatically cut and paste the link and title onto twitter anymore. Just me?
/I’ve had some computer problems lately
Happened to me yesterday. Trying to re-tweet PLLibs Libya page.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 8:05:02am |
re: #302 BigPapa
Meh, it was stupid. Wow, he gets on YT and it makes a small story, then back to business for both sides. It doesn’t really do anything.
The real idiocy is people buying Newt’s BS.
I agree. It’s also potentially dangerous. It just takes one nervous cop or secret service agent to misinterpret his actions and he could have been killed. This kind of thing also makes it easier for real political assassins because security isn’t sure if something suspicious is a silly stunt or an act of terrorism.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 18, 2011 8:05:45am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speaking of oil ticks…
According to my doctor, and much to my wife’s dismay… I will live.
But I do have a 15cm long inflammation across my hip from my tick bite.
Fuckin’ tick.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 8:05:57am |
re: #306 Stanley Sea
Happened to me yesterday. Trying to re-tweet PLLibs Libya page.
ok, it seems there a bug. Charles and Stinky will get around to fixing it when he’s done traveling.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 8:06:01am |
re: #305 lawhawk
I had a tick bite. Probably an allergic reaction.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 18, 2011 8:10:06am |
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 8:13:24am |
re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m not a Newt supporter…
I know, and I more or less agree with you, in fact.
re: #307 Killgore Trout
I agree. It’s also potentially dangerous. It just takes one nervous cop or secret service agent to misinterpret his actions and he could have been killed. This kind of thing also makes it easier for real political assassins because security isn’t sure if something suspicious is a silly stunt or an act of terrorism.
This is a sad truth.
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 8:16:56am |
United Airlines to resume using flight designations Flt. 93 and Flt. 175. The numbers were discontinued following the 9/11 attacks, when both planes were hijacked. Flt. 173 was crashed into the WTC, while Flt. 93’s passengers fought back and the plane crashed in PA, killing all on board, but the likely target was the Capitol or White House.
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wrenchwench Wed, May 18, 2011 8:32:04am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speaking of oil ticks…
According to my doctor, and much to my wife’s dismay… I will live.
But I do have a 15cm long inflammation across my hip from my tick bite.
Fuckin’ tick.
Ticks use the metric system?
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calochortus Wed, May 18, 2011 8:33:36am |
re: #310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had a tick bite. Probably an allergic reaction.
My condolences. My husband gets the same nasty reaction to tick bites.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 8:35:41am |
re: #315 calochortus
My condolences. My husband gets the same nasty reaction to tick bites.
I had a similar reaction to a wasp bite: swelled up and totally floored me for three days.
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Slap Wed, May 18, 2011 8:35:45am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 8:36:02am |
re: #314 wrenchwench
Yes. Obviously, my doctor speaks “tick”.
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Slap Wed, May 18, 2011 8:36:50am |
re: #316 ralphieboy
I had a similar reaction to a wasp bite: swelled up and totally floored me for three days.
Wasps. Ugh. Flying insects bearing weapons are among my least favorite creatures…..
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Lidane Wed, May 18, 2011 8:38:58am |
re: #311 Varek Raith
o_O
Crazy man is crazy. Guess he hates being ignored, so he has to say stupid shit to get back in the news.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 8:42:34am |
re: #320 Lidane
Perfectly clear logic: Chavez was a socialist, Stalin was a socialist, therefore the two are identical.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 8:45:18am |
re: #321 ralphieboy
Perfectly clear logic: Chavez was a socialist, Stalin was a socialist, therefore the two are identical.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
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andres Wed, May 18, 2011 8:45:32am |
re: #321 ralphieboy
Perfectly clear logic: Chavez was a socialist, Stalin was a socialist, therefore the two are identical.
Or maybe Beck is trying to imply that Cesar Chavez has family bonds with the Other Chavez[1]. Who knows what goes into his head.
[1] Yes, that one.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 8:48:54am |
An article about a Saudi woman who is challenging the country’s ban on women drivers and inviting others to follow suit:
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk…]
This is a dangerous developement: more women drivers mean more demand for gasoline and therefore even higher oil prices!!! Can we tolerate this sort of “freedom” in the Arab world?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 8:51:32am |
“Director Trier shocks Cannes with Nazi, Hitler jokes”
I thought I was a Jew for a long time and was very happy being a Jew,” said Von Trier, who, according to biographies was told by his mother on her death bed that the father he had known all his life was not his real father.“Then later on came (Jewish and Danish director) Susanne Bier and then suddenly I wasn’t so happy about being a Jew. No, that was a joke, sorry.
“But it turned out I was not a Jew but even if I’d been a Jew I would be kind of a second rate Jew because there is kind of a hierarchy in the Jewish population.
“But anyway, I really wanted to be a Jew and then I found out I was really a Nazi, you know, because my family was German … which also gave me some pleasure.”
Dunst looked uncomfortable as he continued his remarks, which clearly took reporters by surprise.
“What can I say? I understand Hitler. I think he did some wrong things, yes absolutely, but I can see him sitting in his bunker in the end.
“I think I understand the man. He’s not what you would call a good guy, but I understand much about him and I sympathize with him a little bit. But come on, I’m not for the Second World War, and I’m not against Jews.
“I am of course very much for Jews. No, not too much because Israel is a pain in the ass. But still, how can I get out of this sentence?”
He expressed admiration for Nazi architect Albert Speer before ending another rambling sentence with: “OK, I’m a Nazi.”
Jokes?
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com…]
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 8:52:49am |
re: #325 Walter L. Newton
“Director Trier shocks Cannes with Nazi, Hitler jokes”
Jokes?
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com…]
Open mike night. Throw garbage at him.
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Lidane Wed, May 18, 2011 8:53:35am |
re: #321 ralphieboy
Oh, I got the connection. It’s still dumb. Besides, the ship they’d name after him is a cargo/supply ship that’s used for humanitarian missions. We’ve got similar ships named after Lewis & Clark and Amelia Earhart.
It’s not like they’re wanting to name an aircraft carrier after him or anything. What’s the problem?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 8:54:52am |
re: #326 Alouette
Open mike night. Throw garbage at him.
It wasn’t an open mike night, it was at a news conference in regards to the showing of his new film at Cannes. It wasn’t even an off the cuff moment.
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 8:55:40am |
re: #325 Walter L. Newton
If I want someone to make jokes about Nazis and Hitler, I’ll call for Mel Brooks. This guy is just idiotic.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 8:56:04am |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
It wasn’t an open mike night, it was at a news conference in regards to the showing of his new film at Cannes. It wasn’t even an off the cuff moment.
You mean he prepared those comments? Throw fish restaurant garbage at him.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 18, 2011 8:56:08am |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
It wasn’t an open mike night, it was at a news conference in regards to the showing of his new film at Cannes. It wasn’t even an off the cuff moment.
It sounds like he’s having a bit of a break down. His mother should have kept her mouth shut and he would have happily gone on considering himself Jewish.
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Lidane Wed, May 18, 2011 8:56:34am |
re: #325 Walter L. Newton
Lars von Trier is known for being shocking. I’m not surprised.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 8:57:39am |
re: #327 Lidane
Point is that Beck sees Chavez as seriously anti-American in his attitudes and actions, and naming a ship after him as an affront to all those proud American lettuce growers who sought to keep prices down by hiring low-cost laborers to harvest it…
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 8:57:48am |
re: #329 lawhawk
If I want someone to make jokes about Nazis and Hitler, I’ll call for Mel Brooks. This guy is just idiotic.
If you read the article, there is no evidence that he is making jokes. That seems to be the editorializing of the writer of the article. It was a serious news conference about a serious movie. I’m amazed that the article presented his comments as jokes. No one else took it as a joke.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 8:58:16am |
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 8:58:35am |
Next month will also mark the end of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act’s $480 billion in federal stimulus, which has subsidized states through the economic downturn. States have grown more dependent on federal subsidies, relying on them for almost 30% of their budgets.
so there s no solution, just wait for the second wave that’s coming to drown us all…how can innocent, poor folks like me escape this madness?
[Link: online.wsj.com…]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 18, 2011 8:59:00am |
Alouette, what is a second-rate kind of Jew?
(I have no idea what he is talking about.)
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Lidane Wed, May 18, 2011 8:59:09am |
re: #333 ralphieboy
Yeah, I know.
Besides, it’s Glenn Beck. He lives for this sort of outrageous outrage. I shouldn’t be surprised that he’s saying these things at all.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 9:00:15am |
re: #331 EmmmieG
It sounds like he’s having a bit of a break down. His mother should have kept her mouth shut and he would have happily gone on considering himself Jewish.
That was 1989…
In 1989, von Trier’s mother revealed on her deathbed that the man who he thought was his father was not, and that she had had a tryst with her former employer, a man named Fritz Michael Hartmann (1909–2000),[43] who descended from a long line of Roman Catholic classical musicians,[44] in order to give her son “artistic genes”.[45]
He’s had more than enough time to get over it.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 9:09:36am |
re: #335 Walter L. Newton
I’m not impressed.
His comments seem similar in content and overall coherence to Mel Gibson’s, that’s for sure.
Whether you can divorce art from the artist is a tricky question. I’m no big Lars von Trier fan anyway so I’d happily shun his oeuvre. On the other hand there are several more or less anti-semitic people whose work I would have a harder time ignoring (TS Eliot springs to mind).
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Lidane Wed, May 18, 2011 9:13:45am |
re: #335 Walter L. Newton
I’m not impressed.
And I’m not defending him. All I’m saying is that he’s said all kinds of outrageous shit before, so these latest outbursts don’t surprise me.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 9:14:38am |
re: #337 EmmmieG
Alouette, what is a second-rate kind of Jew?
(I have no idea what he is talking about.)
Jews who don’t get direct deposit for their Zionist checks.
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allegro Wed, May 18, 2011 9:14:42am |
Now this is funny…
Newt to Greta van Susteren:
“I want to make sure every House Republican is protected from some kind of dishonest Democratic ad. So let me say on the record, any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.
Yeah because he’s madly danced his true opinion (which happens to be right, BTW) back since then due to the outrage for his going off script makes any accurate quotes just… mean.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 9:15:45am |
re: #341 Lidane
And I’m not defending him. All I’m saying is that he’s said all kinds of outrageous shit before, so these latest outbursts don’t surprise me.
But you feign outrage every time Beck opens his stupid yap.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 9:16:43am |
afternoon folks. I decided to say screw Bloomington. I’ll do it tomorrow.
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Flounder Wed, May 18, 2011 9:17:05am |
Pretty awesome pictures here [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]
As much as things change, as much as they stay the same, the welder looks the same today, same torch set, same oxy/acet tanks.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 9:17:06am |
re: #343 allegro
To bad he was n9ot speaking to Congress, then he could have just purged his comments from the Congressional Record.
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William of Orange Wed, May 18, 2011 9:17:46am |
Egg meets face moment for Rick Santorum!
The most intersting lines:
HH: Now your former colleague, John McCain, said look, there’s no record, there’s no evidence here that these methods actually led to the capture or the killing of bin Laden. Do you disagree with that? Or do you think he’s got an argument?
RS: I don’t, everything I’ve read shows that we would not have gotten this information as to who this man was if it had not been gotten information from people who were subject to enhanced interrogation. And so this idea that we didn’t ask that question while Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was being waterboarded, he doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works. I mean, you break somebody, and after they’re broken, they become cooperative. And that’s when we got this information. And one thing led to another, and led to another, and that’s how we ended up with bin Laden.
Emphasis mine.
That’s an unbelievable gaffe! Telling John McCain that he knows nothing about TORTURE??!! McCain is no presidential material but he did have the right stuff and stamina to endure 5 years as a prisoner of war and lived to tell.
Santorum, you’re the douche of the week!
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:18:24am |
re: #344 Walter L. Newton
But you feign outrage every time Beck opens his stupid yap.
that’s required, don’t cha know
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Lidane Wed, May 18, 2011 9:19:51am |
re: #344 Walter L. Newton
I don’t remember being outraged at all with Beck’s latest stupidity. I tried to understand his “logic”, such as it is, but outrage? Not really.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 9:23:33am |
re: #344 Walter L. Newton
But you feign outrage every time Beck opens his stupid yap.
Von Trier made some stupid and offensive comments. On the other hand, context is everything - not knowing his work well, I would nonetheless say that there’s little evidence that he hates Jewish people and is genuinely a Nazi sympathiser, rather than a confused man whose thoughts sounded a lot better in his head than outside it.
Beck on the other hand is either deranged, or evil, depending on whether he believes the shit he comes out with on a daily basis or not.
BBL.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, May 18, 2011 9:24:24am |
re: #351 iossarian
Sounds more like a lame-assed attempt at humor that fell on its face…
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fizzlogic Wed, May 18, 2011 9:24:33am |
If anyone remembers this thread from February regarding the “joking” anti-abortionist Republican Mike Hogan running for Jacksonville mayor, he may lose. Alvin Brown may be pulling off the unbelievable—a Democrat Mayor in a staunchly Republican city. The backlash against the TeaParty may be beginning.
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:25:55am |
re: #345 RogueOne
afternoon folks. I decided to say screw Bloomington. I’ll do it tomorrow.
Bravo. IU can wait…the internet is now.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 9:26:03am |
re: #352 ralphieboy
Sounds more like a lame-assed attempt at humor that fell on its face…
Like I said, it probably only ever made sense inside his head.
Really BBL this time!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:29:04am |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can’t think of a single think that could help Sarkozy more.
Unless, of course, one of his major opponents could get arrested for rape.
“I was able to pull a beautiful woman who is on the cover of Vogue all the time, and who loves me, and is having my baby. My opponent, unable to win a supermodel, attacks the chambermaids in his hotel. My good looks and virility win! Vote Sarkozy!”
(I think that may appeal to the French voter.)
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:29:31am |
Newt:
So let me say on the record, any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.
In other words, any words that come out of my mouth are complete and utter bullshit and should not be believed.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:30:14am |
re: #230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was a rotten thing for him to say.
Why would a maid steal an airline ticket? WTF?
‘Throwing out important papers’—this sounds like a man who loses shit and then blames the maid.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 9:30:19am |
re: #357 darthstar
Newt:
[Video]In other words, any words that come out of my mouth are complete and utter bullshit and should not be believed.
I thought people knew that already.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:31:39am |
re: #240 _RememberTonyC
Good morning Lizards. The story of the IMF boss and the hotel housekeeper may be about to get even more bizarre. The alleged victim may have HIV or AIDS
[Link: www.nypost.com…]
Could be…or, it could just be that the NYPost is making shit up to generate more excitement. They’re not the most reliable.
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:32:08am |
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:32:20am |
re: #359 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I thought people knew that already.
About me? Yes, of course…but about Newt? He’s still considered “the smartest man in the Republican party”…though who the fuck knows why.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:34:23am |
re: #246 ralphieboy
As BS pointed out, it is about “patterns of events”, black ghetto kids are criminals, while jet-setting European bankers are not. I think the case is clear, or rather black and white.
/
Yeah. For Stein it’s not about the perp walk—I’m sure he is ALL about humiliating poor people who are ‘real’ criminals. He’s just pissed that one of his sort is being treated the way ordinary people are.
People over at Wonkette were coming up with lists for Stein, of affluent banking types who’ve been convicted of rape. If he wants to expand his knowledge of the human race, and how being a bigwig doesn’t rule out being an asshole.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 9:34:24am |
re: #362 darthstar
About me? Yes, of course…but about Newt? He’s still considered “the smartest man in the Republican party”…though who the fuck knows why.
3 Wives without getting caught with his pants down.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:34:49am |
re: #247 RogueOne
My nephew (from saudi) makes that comparison all the time. He told me that’s what frequently happens in Riyadh. A black car pulls up, a bunch of guys jump out and grab someone, and then they don’t see or hear from them for a long time if at all. Sometimes our system sucks but it could always be worse.
Much, much, much, much worse.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 9:35:11am |
re: #362 darthstar
About me? Yes, of course…but about Newt? He’s still considered “the smartest man in the Republican party”…though who the fuck knows why.
He’s finished. I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head that announced a run and then flamed out that quickly.
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:35:39am |
Okay…I normally just delete the shit my dad sends, but this one is pretty cute.
On a golf tour in Newfoundland, Mike Weir drives his new Dodge Journey into a gas station in a remote town.
The pump attendant, obviously knows nothing about golf, greets him in a typical Newfoundland manner completely unaware of who the golfing pro is.
“How’s she cuttin’ bye” (boy) says the attendant.
Mike nods a quick ‘hello’ and bends forward to pick up the nozzle, as he does so, two tees fall out of his shirt pocket onto the ground.
“What are dose?” asks the attendant.
“They’re called tees” replies Mike.
“Well, what on god’s earth are dey for?” inquires the attendant.
“They’re for resting my balls on when I’m driving”, says Mike.
“Fookin Jaysus”, says the Newfoundlander, “Dodge tinks of everyting!
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, May 18, 2011 9:36:12am |
Gooood Morning !
Hope all is well here…
Been away from this confounded machine for two
or three weeks….
For all the wrong reasons….
I hear Newt said”ahhh” and inserted his size 12…LOL
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:36:23am |
re: #364 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
3 Wives without getting caught with his pants down.
Oh, he got caught…he just didn’t give a fuck and told his current wife to get over herself as he was trading her in on a new model.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 9:37:47am |
re: #348 William of Orange
Egg meets face moment for Rick Santorum!
The most intersting lines:
Emphasis mine.
That’s an unbelievable gaffe! Telling John McCain that he knows nothing about TORTURE??!! McCain is no presidential material but he did have the right stuff and stamina to endure 5 years as a prisoner of war and lived to tell.
Santorum, you’re the douche of the week!
I’m more outraged about his statement just before that about Obama prosecuting CIA officers who participated in enhanced interrogations. That’s an outright lie. However, I hate to side with the wingnuts but the anti-waterboarding crew left themselves open to criticism by some questionable talking points that probably aren’t true. I’m still following the story out of personal curiosity but it seems just a battle of people trying to prove what they already believe so it’s not a very productive discussion about what really happened.
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:37:58am |
re: #366 RogueOne
He’s finished. I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head that announced a run and then flamed out that quickly.
Nope…he’s not out yet. He has to sit through the next six months or so and the Iowa caucuses and probably New Hampshire before he can bow out gracefully. There are enough idiots in this country giving him money right now that he won’t bail immediately.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:39:09am |
re: #257 RogueOne
I really like this guys blog. Here’s his take on the french alleged rapist and his bail hearing:
War Declared Against France
[Link: blog.simplejustice.us…]People keep bringing up Roman Polanski and I think it’s a good point. If we know that we could have serious problems getting a suspect back from France is it really in the best interest of justice to grant them bail even if it’s something we would normally do?
This guy is pretty much the definition of flight risk right now.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 18, 2011 9:39:56am |
re: #92 windsagio
That too, I haven’t heard that as an actual story tho >>
I want to know if a satanic church gets a writeoff too
If I start a cult and only draw art as a religious sacrament, like if I go the full Anton Lavey? is my business tax free?
I’m researching this right now
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:40:52am |
In Harmony Wellness, a patient-focused, community-centered, legal medical cannabis dispensary located in Windsor, Colorado, was forced to close its doors yesterday as a result of a town vote to ban their business.
fear the Evil Weed!…
where’s the outrage?
[Link: ireport.cnn.com…]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:41:09am |
re: #260 iceweasel
What about justice for the woman he attacked? And we know she’s not the only one. The State has to defend the victims and seek justice for them.
That’s the thing. She’s not the only one. Polanski disappeared into the French night, and we will never know how many young girls he raped before he made the mistake of going to Switzerland.
This guy stands trial. If he’s guilty, he serves his sentence. If not, we send him home. Either way, once it’s all over, he can dine out for the rest of his life on how he survived the American Gulag, and that will be very nice for him.
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:41:25am |
re: #373 WindUpBird
I want to know if a satanic church gets a writeoff too
If I start a cult and only draw art as a religious sacrament, like if I go the full Anton Lavey? is my business tax free?
I’m researching this right now
That’d be interesting…I suspect the Xian right would be up in arms.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:41:35am |
re: #261 RogueOne
How sad is it that the lady has already had to hire a lawyer. She’s the victim.
They’re going to try to tear her to shreds.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 9:42:40am |
re: #373 WindUpBird
I want to know if a satanic church gets a writeoff too
If I start a cult and only draw art as a religious sacrament, like if I go the full Anton Lavey? is my business tax free?
I’m researching this right now
You could start a foundation for advancement of the arts, and get a 501(c)(3) tax free designation. No religious tests required.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, May 18, 2011 9:42:57am |
re: #373 WindUpBird
I fish and hunt religiously …. and write it off!
Is it legal??Don’t now ,but thet haven’t asked!!
LOL
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:43:42am |
re: #377 SanFranciscoZionist
They’re going to try to tear her to shreds.
if she’s telling the truth, she should buck up and defend herself…think of it, one small woman taking on the millionaire army of sharks
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:44:17am |
re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m not a Newt supporter…
Hitting Ann Coulter in the face with a pie is assault.
Throwing red paint on someone wearing fur is assault.
Throwing confetti on Newt is assault.Not a major big deal, but worth 10 days in jail, IMO.
Make it a week. Pie and paint seem more serious to me.
What an eejit.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:45:39am |
re: #311 Varek Raith
o_O
Stalin? STALIN? Fucking Glenn Beck, how the hell is Cesar Chavez like Stalin?
And I assume that the Navy is not actually planning to name a ship for Margaret Sanger, he just wanted to act out?
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 9:45:42am |
Area 51 ‘Uncensored’: Was It UFOs Or The USSR?
[Link: www.npr.org…]
Seventy-five miles north of Las Vegas sits a land parcel in the middle of the desert. Called Area 51, the parcel is just outside of the abandoned Nevada Test and Training Range, where more than 100 atmospheric bomb tests were conducted in the 1950s. Officially, the U.S. government has never acknowledged the existence of Area 51. Unofficially, it has become a place associated with conspiracy theories, alien landings and tiny spaceships.Journalist Annie Jacobsen tells Fresh Air’s Terry Gross that the site has remained classified for many years — not because of aliens or spaceships, but because the government once used the site for top-secret nuclear testing and weapons development.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46:04am |
re: #380 albusteve
if she’s telling the truth, she should buck up and defend herself…think of it, one small woman taking on the millionaire army of sharks
Which sounds good on paper until they start spending money to ruin her life.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46:47am |
re: #325 Walter L. Newton
“Director Trier shocks Cannes with Nazi, Hitler jokes”
Jokes?
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com…]
In vino veritas?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:47:41am |
re: #331 EmmmieG
It sounds like he’s having a bit of a break down. His mother should have kept her mouth shut and he would have happily gone on considering himself Jewish.
I think he may be having a breakdown, but I doubt it’s the fault of anything his mother said.
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:47:52am |
re: #384 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Which sounds good on paper until they start spending money to ruin her life.
they will do that anyway…if she takes the guy down herself, then she will be the millionare
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:48:27am |
re: #332 Lidane
Lars von Trier is known for being shocking. I’m not surprised.
I haven’t seen a single movie he directed. And I’ve only heard of one of them.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 9:50:04am |
re: #388 SanFranciscoZionist
I haven’t seen a single movie he directed. And I’ve only heard of one of them.
The only film of his I know is widely considered one of the worst films ever made.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 9:50:06am |
re: #380 albusteve
if she’s telling the truth, she should buck up and defend herself…think of it, one small woman taking on the millionaire army of sharks
Unintended outcome… ?
“French Twist - Why do so many smart, sane people think Nicolas Sarkozy set up DSK?”
But here is a prediction: Sarkozy will not benefit from Strauss-Kahn’s ugly demise. The main beneficiary will be the politician with the fastest-growing constituency in France at the moment: Marine Le Pen, daughter of Jean-Marie Le Pen and now the leader of the uber-nationalist, anti-European Union, anti-immigration National Front. Much more presentable than her father, Le Pen started polling higher than Sarkozy in March, not least because she offers populist economics and promises to prevent the number of North African immigrants from swelling.
[Link: www.slate.com…]
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 9:50:46am |
re: #360 SanFranciscoZionist
Sounds like the Post may be on to something, although I have questions about this line of reporting. Harlem United Community AIDS has housing at various places around Harlem. A list of transitional and other housing is here. If the Post connected the known addresses to where Harlem United operates housing, then the likelihood that the accuser was someone with HIV/AIDS is quite likely under the organization’s rules for obtaining their housing.
The organization refused to answer any general questions as per HIPAA rules, but the Post’s connection raises the ethical and legal questions since they’ve suggested that she has the disease based on her prior housing status. Knowing that her name is likely to be released at some point, this opens a whole can of worms and shows a gap in HIPAA protection.
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recusancy Wed, May 18, 2011 9:51:42am |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
Bad move, Jon. Obama is just hyping immigration issues to try to portray Republicans as racists. He’s not trying to actually pass a bill. You’re smarter than that, Jon. Don’t hype political stunts just because they’re from someone you like.
The Bluto-esque WWII reference was funny, though.
Fuck that. You think immigration reform is just a political stunt?
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, May 18, 2011 9:51:48am |
re: #382 SanFranciscoZionist
If the California State Police and the FBI opened thier files on C.Chavez
You might think twice!!
I had a girl friend in Calif who’s Father was in the thick of the mess…
(Judge) .She and her brother were driven to school by State Troopers or Highway Patrol for 4 1/2 years because of the death threats…
For what it’s worth…naturally
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:52:22am |
the newest thing…build your own island…pretty cool idea
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:52:55am |
re: #337 EmmmieG
Alouette, what is a second-rate kind of Jew?
(I have no idea what he is talking about.)
What he means is that if his father but not his mother had been Jewish, he wouldn’t have been considered religiously Jewish, (except under some circumstances within the Reform movement).
Some people get incredibly self-pitying about this. Usually people who have no connection at all to the community
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lawhawk Wed, May 18, 2011 9:53:23am |
re: #394 albusteve
Brings new definition to the term water hazard.
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 9:53:34am |
re: #378 Alouette
You could start a foundation for advancement of the arts, and get a 501(c)(3) tax free designation. No religious tests required.
I think that’s how churches file, as tax-exempt non-profits.
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:54:17am |
re: #392 recusancy
Fuck that. You think immigration reform is just a political stunt?
sure, why not?
lotta money and votes involved
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 9:55:03am |
re: #397 RogueOne
I think that’s how churches file, as tax-exempt non-profits.
Yeah but, you don’t have to be a religious organization to get 501(c)(3) status.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 9:55:50am |
re: #398 albusteve
sure, why not?
lotta money and votes involved
I’ll say again what I’ve said before. I don’t give a shit what motivates politicians. What I care about is how they vote (and to a lesser but still considerable extent what they say).
Republicans vote against the DREAM act. Democrats vote for it.
That’s enough for me (on this issue - there are plenty of others).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 9:55:53am |
re: #356 SanFranciscoZionist
“I was able to pull a beautiful woman who is on the cover of Vogue all the time, and who loves me, and is having my baby. My opponent, unable to win a supermodel, attacks the chambermaids in his hotel. My good looks and virility win! Vote Sarkozy!”
-takes a long drag off a cigarette as the camera fades
(I think that may appeal to the French voter.)
You forgot…
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:56:03am |
re: #351 iossarian
Von Trier made some stupid and offensive comments. On the other hand, context is everything - not knowing his work well, I would nonetheless say that there’s little evidence that he hates Jewish people and is genuinely a Nazi sympathiser, rather than a confused man whose thoughts sounded a lot better in his head than outside it.
Beck on the other hand is either deranged, or evil, depending on whether he believes the shit he comes out with on a daily basis or not.
BBL.
Von Trier sounds like a classic European intellectual ‘oh I’m not an anti-Semite, giggle giggle’ type. He’s probably an asshole. There are a million of them.
I have to deal with other pro-Israel activists telling me with tears in their eyes how MUUUUCH Glenn Beck loves Israel, and how Obama is whatever the latest thing is,so he gets in my way more frequently than just another Eurotrash director.
If this makes me a hypocrite, nu.
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:56:46am |
re: #388 SanFranciscoZionist
I haven’t seen a single movie he directed. And I’ve only heard of one of them.
He’s got a couple of decent films. Dancer in the Dark (starring Bjork) is actually a very beautiful, if tragic, film. It fell flat with American audiences…we like our happy endings too much. But I recommend seeing it on Netflix if you haven’t seen it yet. Bjork is disturbingly captivating in this role.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 9:56:47am |
re: #395 SanFranciscoZionist
What he means is that if his father but not his mother had been Jewish, he wouldn’t have been considered religiously Jewish, (except under some circumstances within the Reform movement).
Some people get incredibly self-pitying about this. Usually people who have no connection at all to the community
I don’t know what they think they are missing out on. Bigger Zionist checks? Discounts at the bagel shoppe?
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:56:57am |
re: #396 lawhawk
Brings new definition to the term water hazard.
I’m sure you’ve seen this stuff in Dubai?
Image: File:PalmIslandDubai.JPG
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 9:57:39am |
re: #399 Alouette
Yeah but, you don’t have to be a religious organization to get 501(c)(3) status.
501(c)(3) exemptions apply to corporations, and any community chest, fund, cooperating association or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, to foster national or international amateur sports competition, to promote the arts, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals.[7][8]
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darthstar Wed, May 18, 2011 9:57:51am |
re: #392 recusancy
Fuck that. You think immigration reform is just a political stunt?
Aren’t immigrants just props for campaign stops every other year, and “the scourge of society” the rest of the time?
/
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 9:58:22am |
re: #405 albusteve
I’m sure you’ve seen this stuff in Dubai?
Image: File:PalmIslandDubai.JPG
whatever, the floating islands
[Link: www.thatsdubai.com…]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 9:59:36am |
re: #391 lawhawk
Sounds like the Post may be on to something, although I have questions about this line of reporting. Harlem United Community AIDS has housing at various places around Harlem. A list of transitional and other housing is here. If the Post connected the known addresses to where Harlem United operates housing, then the likelihood that the accuser was someone with HIV/AIDS is quite likely under the organization’s rules for obtaining their housing.
The organization refused to answer any general questions as per HIPAA rules, but the Post’s connection raises the ethical and legal questions since they’ve suggested that she has the disease based on her prior housing status. Knowing that her name is likely to be released at some point, this opens a whole can of worms and shows a gap in HIPAA protection.
Well, if she is living with HIV/AIDS, I’m very sorry, but if Strauss-Kahn is guilty, perhaps that news will give him a few sleepless nights.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:02:44am |
re: #391 lawhawk
IMF boss: “I deed not hurt her! I deed not touch her! I deed not attack her! I never even seeen her!”
His lawyer, “She has AIDS.”
IMF boss: “DOCTOR! I MUST SEE ZEE DOCTOR!”
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:03:10am |
re: #403 darthstar
He’s got a couple of decent films. Dancer in the Dark (starring Bjork) is actually a very beautiful, if tragic, film. It fell flat with American audiences…we like our happy endings too much. But I recommend seeing it on Netflix if you haven’t seen it yet. Bjork is disturbingly captivating in this role.
I save all my devastating endings for the Israeli movies I watch to try to improve my Hebrew. Middle Easterners are as bad as Europeans for that crap. Are English speakers alone in liking happy endings?
(“The Bubble” damn near killed me. Along with the two protagonists.)
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 10:03:19am |
re: #409 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, if she is living with HIV/AIDS, I’m very sorry, but if Strauss-Kahn is guilty, perhaps that news will give him a few sleepless nights.
We need a new irony judge. I say that counts.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:03:36am |
re: #404 Alouette
I don’t know what they think they are missing out on. Bigger Zionist checks? Discounts at the bagel shoppe?
It’s just another excuse to poor-mouth the Jews. We’re clannish, you know.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:03:40am |
re: #404 Alouette
I don’t know what they think they are missing out on. Bigger Zionist checks? Discounts at the bagel shoppe?
Presumably there is a non-zero number of people who would like to be considered Jewish for family/cultural reasons, but who for whatever reason are not (unless in the Reform sense, as SFZ mentioned above).
My own family had something of a history of this in that the small church that some of my relatives attended was very exclusionary of people who didn’t come from that church (and there was no obvious way of getting into it either).
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Interesting Times Wed, May 18, 2011 10:03:46am |
re: #409 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, if she is living with HIV/AIDS, I’m very sorry, but if Strauss-Kahn is guilty, perhaps that news will give him a few sleepless nights.
re: #411 lawhawk
Karma is a bitch indeed.
I remember, years ago, reading about a gay-basher whose target happened to be HIV-positive. The basher got infected as a result of contact with the victim’s blood.
Karma indeed.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:05:40am |
re: #412 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hard to write with a French accent, dontcha know.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:05:59am |
re: #415 SanFranciscoZionist
It’s just another excuse to poor-mouth the Jews. We’re clannish, you know.
That is definitely a factor too.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 18, 2011 10:07:14am |
re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist
I save all my devastating endings for the Israeli movies I watch to try to improve my Hebrew. Middle Easterners are as bad as Europeans for that crap. Are English speakers alone in liking happy endings?
(“The Bubble” damn near killed me. Along with the two protagonists.)
I seem to recall in my Korean history class that they have some well-known story that ends with the hero arriving just in time to…die in the same mud-pit prison as the heroine while proclaiming his undying love.
I prefer Disney. If I want messy and complicated, I’ll try to clean up the boys’ room.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 10:07:30am |
Obama Releases Long Form T Shirt
Not a joke!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:09:04am |
re: #416 iossarian
Presumably there is a non-zero number of people who would like to be considered Jewish for family/cultural reasons, but who for whatever reason are not (unless in the Reform sense, as SFZ mentioned above).
My own family had something of a history of this in that the small church that some of my relatives attended was very exclusionary of people who didn’t come from that church (and there was no obvious way of getting into it either).
A patrilineal Jew who wants to be religiously Jewish can convert and make it official. I know a few who have, usually because they are marrying Jews, and want to make the kids’ status unambiguous. Especially if you were raised in the tradition, or in proximity to it, it’s not difficult.
If you don’t want a religious conversion, you can be a person of Jewish ancestry, family and culture just fine. Occasionally you may have to deal with some schmuck saying, “Oh, then you’re not really Jewish,” helpfully, but if you’re over sixteen, you should be able to explain that family and culture is not the same as halacha. And then wither them with a glance.
Or, you can join a Reform shul, which is what most people do.
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 10:09:18am |
when will Oprah toss her hat in the ring?…it’s all set up now
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 10:09:42am |
re: #418 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hard to write with a French accent, dontcha know.
Is DSK from the northern France? Only people from northern France tend to make the “th” sound like a “z” when trying to speak English. Otherwise it normally comes across as more of a soft “d” sound.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, May 18, 2011 10:09:43am |
re: #418 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hard to write with a French accent, dontcha know.
You bet ye..!
Alaskan/Yiddish…/
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 10:10:31am |
re: #424 Walter L. Newton
Is DSK from the northern France? Only people from northern France tend to make the “th” sound like a “z” when trying to speak English. Otherwise it normally comes across as more of a soft “d” sound.
At least that’s what my theatre dialect books tell me.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:10:56am |
re: #424 Walter L. Newton
I have no earthly idea. As far as I know, you can see the Eiffel Tower from every window in the entire country.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 10:11:38am |
re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist
I save all my devastating endings for the Israeli movies I watch to try to improve my Hebrew. Middle Easterners are as bad as Europeans for that crap. Are English speakers alone in liking happy endings?
(“The Bubble” damn near killed me. Along with the two protagonists.)
I like bad endings. I saw the otherwise forgettable movie “Repo Men” with Jude Law and Forrest Whitaker and the total 180 in the last few minutes saved it from being just action film.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 10:12:29am |
re: #422 SanFranciscoZionist
A patrilineal Jew who wants to be religiously Jewish can convert and make it official. I know a few who have, usually because they are marrying Jews, and want to make the kids’ status unambiguous. Especially if you were raised in the tradition, or in proximity to it, it’s not difficult.
If you don’t want a religious conversion, you can be a person of Jewish ancestry, family and culture just fine. Occasionally you may have to deal with some schmuck saying, “Oh, then you’re not really Jewish,” helpfully, but if you’re over sixteen, you should be able to explain that family and culture is not the same as halacha. And then wither them with a glance.
Or, you can join a Reform shul, which is what most people do.
There is an Israeli writer who wants to be officially listed as “Not Jewish.”
OK, I think he should get what he wants. Maybe he can even get a de-circumcision or whatever kind of operation where they sew the foreskin back on.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 10:12:34am |
re: #428 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like bad endings. I saw the otherwise forgettable movie “Repo Men” with Jude Law and Forrest Whitaker and the total 180 in the last few minutes saved it from being just action film.
Just another action film.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 18, 2011 10:13:14am |
re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have no earthly idea. As far as I know, you can see the Eiffel Tower from every window in the entire country.
You can’t even see it from most places in Paris.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:15:10am |
re: #422 SanFranciscoZionist
Had an old girlfriend who went off to college and met a nice Jewish boy and married him. She, the daughter of a Church of Christ minister.
She converted and is the most observant Jew I’ve ever met.
A lovely lady, in fact, she recently performed in NYC an entire suite of songs based on the Holocaust. She’s a music professor at a gigantic University.
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iossarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:15:18am |
re: #422 SanFranciscoZionist
I quite agree with this. As with any religion, or indeed any social group at all, it’s about striking a balance between group coherence and openness to outsiders.
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 10:15:44am |
USDA conspiracy to wreck the potato business…
outrageous!
[Link: www.dailyfinance.com…]
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 10:17:05am |
U.S. imposes tough sanctions against Syrian president, other officials
President Barack Obama has imposed tough sanctions against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and six other senior Syrian officials in an effort to stop the regime’s fierce crackdown on protests, the U.S. Treasury Department said.The Treasury Department also targeted two top Iranian officials whose unit was a “conduit for Iranian material support” to Syrian intelligence.
this story is developing. We’ll bring you more information as soon as we get it.
Good news. I assume that means freezing assets and seizing banks accounts. Nice.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:18:02am |
re: #411 lawhawk
Karma is a bitch indeed.
Dr. Karma. Paging Dr. Karma. Dr. Karma.
I shouldn’t make fun of the guy.
Maybe he should have a cocktail.
/
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 10:18:14am |
re: #434 albusteve
USDA conspiracy to wreck the potato business…
outrageous!
[Link: www.dailyfinance.com…]
Freedom Fries are a Konstitutionally protected vegetable!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:18:48am |
re: #428 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like bad endings. I saw the otherwise forgettable movie “Repo Men” with Jude Law and Forrest Whitaker and the total 180 in the last few minutes saved it from being just action film.
I realized that ‘The Bubble’, which is about a Jewish guy from Tel Aviv and a Palestinian guy from Nablus who fall in love, was not going to have a HAPPY ending, but I would have settled for ‘they’re apart, but safe, and the future will be better’.
I cried my eyes out. The only thing worse than Israeli films for sad endings is gay Israeli films.
(OK, “Ushpizin” had a happy ending.)
(Actually “The Syrian Bride” wasn’t all THAT bad an ending.)
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recusancy Wed, May 18, 2011 10:19:24am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:19:44am |
re: #429 Alouette
There is an Israeli writer who wants to be officially listed as “Not Jewish.”
OK, I think he should get what he wants. Maybe he can even get a de-circumcision or whatever kind of operation where they sew the foreskin back on.
I’d be tempted to let him resign. Especially since he’s an old man, so it’s not like this will affect his children and grandchildren. Unless he can get himself declared retroactively not Jewish.
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wrenchwench Wed, May 18, 2011 10:19:59am |
re: #434 albusteve
USDA conspiracy to wreck the potato business…
outrageous!
[Link: www.dailyfinance.com…]
The government really opened a can of worms when they decided to publish nutrition guidelines.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:20:22am |
re: #432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Had an old girlfriend who went off to college and met a nice Jewish boy and married him. She, the daughter of a Church of Christ minister.
She converted and is the most observant Jew I’ve ever met.
A lovely lady, in fact, she recently performed in NYC an entire suite of songs based on the Holocaust. She’s a music professor at a gigantic University.
We get the most astonishing Jews in the oddest ways.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:20:34am |
re: #440 SanFranciscoZionist
I’d be tempted to let him resign. Especially since he’s an old man, so it’s not like this will affect his children and grandchildren. Unless he can get himself declared retroactively not Jewish.
Guy approaches with super glue and some foreskin…
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RogueOne Wed, May 18, 2011 10:20:40am |
re: #435 Killgore Trout
U.S. imposes tough sanctions against Syrian president, other officials
Good news. I assume that means freezing assets and seizing banks accounts. Nice.
I wonder how much of their money the US could actually get its hands on. Could syrians really be dumb enough to keep a lot of their money here instead of Bahrain?
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albusteve Wed, May 18, 2011 10:21:08am |
re: #435 Killgore Trout
U.S. imposes tough sanctions against Syrian president, other officials
Good news. I assume that means freezing assets and seizing banks accounts. Nice.
good news, but as usual no hint of what the sanctions are and how they are implemented…same with Iran last year, all this blather about sanctions, backed up by the Chinese and Russians when nowhere…show me the beef
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 10:22:12am |
re: #440 SanFranciscoZionist
I’d be tempted to let him resign. Especially since he’s an old man, so it’s not like this will affect his children and grandchildren. Unless he can get himself declared retroactively not Jewish.
His children and grandchildren are already not Jewish.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:23:33am |
re: #446 Alouette
His children and grandchildren are already not Jewish.
Well, that’s no problem then. Let him do what he wants.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 10:23:50am |
re: #444 RogueOne
I wonder how much of their money the US could actually get its hands on. Could syrians really be dumb enough to keep a lot of their money here instead of Bahrain?
Well, even the Iranians try to keep US assets in bank accounts, real estate etc. We’re the land of opportunity.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 18, 2011 10:24:36am |
re: #438 SanFranciscoZionist
I realized that ‘The Bubble’, which is about a Jewish guy from Tel Aviv and a Palestinian guy from Nablus who fall in love, was not going to have a HAPPY ending, but I would have settled for ‘they’re apart, but safe, and the future will be better’.
I cried my eyes out. The only thing worse than Israeli films for sad endings is gay Israeli films.
(OK, “Ushpizin” had a happy ending.)
(Actually “The Syrian Bride” wasn’t all THAT bad an ending.)
You want bad? Try Russian movies about WWII. You WILL understand how bad we had it, comrade.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:28:56am |
re: #449 EmmmieG
You want bad? Try Russian movies about WWII. You WILL understand how bad we had it, comrade.
Oh, but I love those. Especially the ones that end with everyone dead, and sentimental Ukrainian folk songs dubbed over montages of little free children playing hopscotch in the streets of Moscow.
Pure bathetic goodness.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 18, 2011 10:31:50am |
re: #450 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, but I love those. Especially the ones that end with everyone dead, and sentimental Ukrainian folk songs dubbed over montages of little free children playing hopscotch in the streets of Moscow.
Pure bathetic goodness.
Idi ii Smotrii. Depicts the German invasion of Russia. The movie begins with some kids pulling a rifle from the grave of a dead soldier. That’s the high point of the movie.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 10:32:58am |
More birther goodness:
BREAKING: Jerome Corsi’s Birther Book Pulled from Shelves!
In a stunning development one day after the release of Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President, by Dr. Jerome Corsi, World Net Daily Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah has announced plans to recall and pulp the entire 200,000 first printing run of the book, as well as announcing an offer to refund the purchase price to anyone who has already bought either a hard copy or electronic download of the book.
In an exclusive interview, a reflective Farah, who wrote the book’s foreword and also published Corsi’s earlier best-selling work, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak out Against John Kerry and Capricorn One: NASA, JFK, and the Great “Moon Landing” Cover-Up, said that after much serious reflection, he could not go forward with the project. “I believe with all my heart that Barack Obama is destroying this country, and I will continue to stand against his administration at every turn, but in light of recent events, this book has become problematic, and contains what I now believe to be factual inaccuracies,” he said this morning. “I cannot in good conscience publish it and expect anyone to believe it.”
When asked if he had any plans to publish a corrected version of the book, he said cryptically, “There is no book.” Farah declined to comment on his discussions of the matter with Corsi.
The only possible response:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 18, 2011 10:34:05am |
re: #442 SanFranciscoZionist
We get the most astonishing Jews in the oddest ways.
At the Museum of Jewish Heritage
CONCERT FOR YOM HASHOAH
NEW YORK PREMIERE
Voices of the HolocaustCaroline Helton, soprano; Kathryn Goodson, piano; Michigan Chamber Players; and Paul Schoenfield, piano
This New York premiere of Ghetto Songs, composer Paul Schoenfield’s setting to music of Yiddish poetry by Mordechai Gebirtig, along with songs by Kurt Weill, Erich Korngold, and others, will be performed in this commemorative concert.
Pretty cool that a nice converted Gentile girl could do such a thing.
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fizzlogic Wed, May 18, 2011 10:37:24am |
re: #452 iceweasel
Sadly that article is supposed to be satire.
UPDATE, 12:25 p.m., for those who didn’t figure it out yet, and the many on Twitter for whom it took a while: We committed satire this morning to point out the problems with selling and marketing a book that has had its core premise and reason to exist gutted by the news cycle, several weeks in advance of publication. Are its author and publisher chastened? Well, no. They double down, and accuse the President of the United States of perpetrating a fraud on the world by having released a forged birth certificate. Not because this claim is in any way based on reality, but to hold their terribly gullible audience captive to their lies, and to sell books. This is despicable, and deserves only ridicule. That’s why we committed satire in the matter of the Corsi book. Hell, even the president has a sense of humor about it all. Some more serious reporting from us on this whole “birther” phenomenon here, here, and here.
Read more: [Link: www.esquire.com…]
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 18, 2011 10:37:26am |
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Varek Raith Wed, May 18, 2011 10:38:42am |
re: #452 iceweasel
More birther goodness:
BREAKING: Jerome Corsi’s Birther Book Pulled from Shelves!
The only possible response:
[Video]
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Four More Tears Wed, May 18, 2011 10:38:50am |
re: #429 Alouette
There is an Israeli writer who wants to be officially listed as “Not Jewish.”
OK, I think he should get what he wants. Maybe he can even get a de-circumcision or whatever kind of operation where they sew the foreskin back on.
Why does it offend you so much that this man wants to leave your religion? I’m assuming this part:
An earlier request to the Interior Ministry was turned down and Kaniuk explains in his petition that he does not wish to be part of a “Jewish Iran” or belong to “what is today called the religion of Israel.”
So do you dislike him because he wants to leave or because of his attitude towards it?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:39:34am |
re: #453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the Museum of Jewish Heritage
Pretty cool that a nice converted Gentile girl could do such a thing.
Heck, there’s an Irish woman who’s still Catholic who has become a leading force in modern Yiddish theater translation.
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iceweasel Wed, May 18, 2011 10:40:14am |
re: #454 trendsurfer
Sadly that article is supposed to be satire.
Well they got me with it! Ha ha on me.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 18, 2011 10:40:52am |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, May 18, 2011 10:41:17am |
re: #455 Killgore Trout
i almost bought that shirt when I got the email. But I knew if I wore it I would have to fend off moronic birthers, “republicans”, and “conservatives”
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 18, 2011 10:42:34am |
re: #458 JasonA
Why does it offend you so much that this man wants to leave your religion? I’m assuming this part:
So do you dislike him because he wants to leave or because of his attitude towards it?
If you don’t want to be religious, don’t be religious.
If you want to become something else, become something else. The Baha’i have their world headquarters in Israel, and they’ve always struck me as nice.
If you want make a big public deal out of leaving the Jewish people because you think we’re tainted by the eeeevil State of Israel, then yes, we have some issues, especially since you’re going to show up on every fucking speaking circuit in the anti-Zionist world, chattering about how fucking brave you were to make a stand.
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fizzlogic Wed, May 18, 2011 10:43:35am |
re: #460 iceweasel
It got me too until I read the update. :)
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Interesting Times Wed, May 18, 2011 10:43:51am |
re: #460 iceweasel
Well they got me with it! Ha ha on me.
The tip-off was WND being in the least bit concerned with “factual inaccuracies”.
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BongCrodny Wed, May 18, 2011 10:47:06am |
re: #385 SanFranciscoZionist
In vino veritas?
I would have gone with “hopped up on goofballs,” but yours is more elegant.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, May 18, 2011 10:50:43am |
Evolution in Action: Lizard Moving From Eggs to Live Birth
Evolution has been caught in the act, according to scientists who are decoding how a species of Australian lizard is abandoning egg-laying in favor of live birth.Along the warm coastal lowlands of New South Wales (map), the yellow-bellied three-toed skink lays eggs to reproduce. But individuals of the same species living in the state’s higher, colder mountains are almost all giving birth to live young.
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engineer cat Wed, May 18, 2011 10:52:02am |
gop desperation summer 2011:
daniels boom then perry boom
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 18, 2011 10:53:13am |
re: #458 JasonA
Why does it offend you so much that this man wants to leave your religion? I’m assuming this part:
So do you dislike him because he wants to leave or because of his attitude towards it?
It doesn’t offend me. Let him leave. Nobody wants to stop him. I think he’s being an ass about it because he craves the attention.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 18, 2011 10:54:08am |
re: #469 Alouette
It doesn’t offend me. Let him leave. Nobody wants to stop him. I think he’s being an ass about it because he craves the attention.
Okay, that part I can understand.
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Slap Wed, May 18, 2011 11:08:03am |
re: #403 darthstar
He’s got a couple of decent films. Dancer in the Dark (starring Bjork) is actually a very beautiful, if tragic, film. It fell flat with American audiences…we like our happy endings too much. But I recommend seeing it on Netflix if you haven’t seen it yet. Bjork is disturbingly captivating
in this role.
VERY minor ftfy….IMO, the “in this role” is superfluous. I don’t like all she’s done as an artist, but holy shit, this little Icelander has some SERIOUS artistic balls. No fear, boundless ideas. Not always listenable, but always interesting….
I leave it to others to comment on her “fashion” sense….
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Ericus58 Wed, May 18, 2011 11:21:44am |
re: #449 EmmmieG
You want bad? Try Russian movies about WWII. You WILL understand how bad we had it, comrade.
Defiance (2008 film)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
“Defiance is a 2008 World War II era film written, produced, and directed by Edward Zwick, set during the occupation of Belarus by Nazi Germany. The film is an account of the Bielski partisans, a group led by four Jewish brothers who saved and recruited Jews in Poland (now Belarus) during the Second World War. The film stars Daniel Craig as Tuvia Bielski, Liev Schreiber as Zus Bielski, Jamie Bell as Asael Bielski, and George MacKay as Aron Bielski.”
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William of Orange Wed, May 18, 2011 12:02:34pm |
re: #348 William of Orange
Egg meets face moment for Rick Santorum!
The most intersting lines:
Emphasis mine.
That’s an unbelievable gaffe! Telling John McCain that he knows nothing about TORTURE??!! McCain is no presidential material but he did have the right stuff and stamina to endure 5 years as a prisoner of war and lived to tell.
Santorum, you’re the douche of the week!
Santorum already had a Google problem….
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William of Orange Wed, May 18, 2011 12:33:18pm |
And now the reactions.
Mark Salter, a McCain aide (on facebook):
“For pure, blind stupidity, nobody beats Santorum. In my 20 years working in the Senate, I never met a dumber member, which he reminded me of today,”
Cindy McCain, John’s wife, via twitter:
“Imagine pres candidate Santorum saying my husband doesn’t understand torture,” she tweeted. “Really?!?!”
And now Santorum goes in full Newt Gingrich mode:
“I disagree with Senator McCain’s view that the enhanced interrogation techniques used on a select few high-value terrorist detainees were unsuccessful nor do I believe they amounted to torture,” Santorum said in a statement.
“For anyone to infer my disagreement with Senator McCain’s policy position lessens my respect for his service to our country and all he had to endure is outrageous and unfortunate.”
I guess he thinks Ryan’s plan stinks too…..