Overnight Hope-a-Dope
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What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were a man, but if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?
— Richard Feynman
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:02:58pm |
Feynman explained the reason for the challenger explosion
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:03:01pm |
My G-d, proof that there's some (more) people in the People's Republic of California that are not libs:
I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed hearing so much common sense in one 8-minute YT video...thumbs up to MachoSauce!
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stevieray Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:03:33pm |
Speaking of noxious gases...
Something tried to evict the skunk from under my shed, and the skunk objected. Now I cannot go out in my backyard for a day or two... again.
This happens a couple of times per year.
Nature is a blast!
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:03:45pm |
A new fresh thread. Time for me to be leaving too. I heard a pillow call my name. Night all and stay warm and scaly.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:04:59pm |
i asked for the thread and it appeared.........................
Creationism is proved!
/white smoke
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MarineGrunt Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:05:33pm |
methane and ammonia ?
Right after a stuffed cabbage and bean casserole dinner?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:05:38pm |
re: #5 BlueCanuck
A new fresh thread. Time for me to be leaving too. I heard a pillow call my name. Night all and stay warm and scaly.
it's gonna be 80* here tomorrow......
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:06:17pm |
re: #6 redc1c4
i asked for the thread and it appeared.........................
Creationism is proved! /white smoke
No, it proves you are the creator.
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Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:07:49pm |
re: #2 BatGuano
Read his books, a military guy (a general if my memory serves) gave him the idea and herded him into the conclusion. Feynman was honest enough to realize what the guy was doing at a later date and give him credit.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:07:55pm |
re: #10 redc1c4
but i wanna be the decider......
As the creator, you get to create, decide and ignore.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:09:04pm |
Get ready for a cold summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:10:15pm |
re: #12 Walter L. Newton
As the creator, you get to create, decide and ignore.
so that's one of Newton's laws?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:10:46pm |
re: #13 karmic_inquisitor
Get ready for a cold summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Damn President Bush!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:11:22pm |
re: #14 redc1c4
so that's one of Newton's laws?
No, just Newton's opinion. Newton's law is "don't stand under the fucking apple tree."
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:12:32pm |
re: #13 karmic_inquisitor
Get ready for a cold summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Bummer, one of our underground tunnels from Colorado goes right through there.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:12:42pm |
re: #16 Walter L. Newton
Newton's second law stay the fuck away from Coconut trees.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:13:15pm |
Richard Feynman. One of the finest men I have ever been privileged to know.
You will never be forgotten.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:14:14pm |
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:14:50pm |
re: #21 Walter L. Newton
Lol if an apple stings think what a coconut would do.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:15:46pm |
re: #19 Rustler
Newton's second law stay the fuck away from Coconut trees.
Newton's third law: stay the fuck away from the cliff edge
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:17:58pm |
re: #11 Shr_Nfr
Thanks, I have read little of Feynman. I'll put him on my reading list. . He is under appreciated.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:18:04pm |
re: #13 karmic_inquisitor
Get ready for a cruel summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
FTFY!
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:18:13pm |
re: #6 redc1c4
i asked for the thread and it appeared.........................
Creationism is proved!
/white smoke
Charles is the intelligent designer, don't tell anyone or we will have to tithe...
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:18:32pm |
Newton saw God as the master creator whose existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation.[29][30][31] But the unforeseen theological consequence of his conception of God, as Leibniz pointed out, was that God was now entirely removed from the world’s affairs, since the need for intervention would only evidence some imperfection in God’s creation, something impossible for a perfect and omnipotent creator.[32] Leibniz's theodicy cleared God from the responsibility for "l'origine du mal" by making God removed from participation in his creation. The understanding of the world was now brought down to the level of simple human reason, and humans, as Odo Marquard argued, became responsible for the correction and elimination of evil.[33]
No relation of mine.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:18:59pm |
Soo.... am I the only one on this site who voted for Obama? Hahaha.
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Lorenska Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:19:25pm |
re: #3 talon_262
SOOO good - reminds me of the video of JayZ and Young Jizzy or whatever his name is on inauguration day, with their "bye bye Bush, my President is Black" (and a bunch of stuff I won't repeat here) rap. SO very uniting and hopeful....and I only saw it played on one network, once, and never again. If some white group had gotten up there 8 years ago and talked about how happy they were that their new prez was white, or this week, talking about how they wished McCain had won, it would have been broadcast in Times Square, with all kinds of scolding and recriminations. But a couple low rent "rappers" get up with a bunch of hate and divisiveness and all I hear are crickets.
LOVE this guy.
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ArchangelMichael Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:19:38pm |
re: #23 redc1c4
Newton's third law: stay the fuck away from the cliff edge
Newton's First Law: "Push me, shove you"
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BLBfootballs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:21:00pm |
re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin
Did you really know him?! How? Where? I read "Surely you're Joking, Mr. Feynman!" when I was young.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:21:41pm |
1-866-sex4life - give your girlfriend something more than a long stem rose. (radio ad for Boston Medical). I don't how the voice actor could keep from laughing when saying that.
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:21:51pm |
re: #28 chouch
possibly... but probably there was at least another.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:22:00pm |
re: #26 slokat
Charles is the intelligent designer, don't tell anyone or we will have to tithe...
so 10 percent of the threads would be tithey threads from now on?
that IS and intelligent design....
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:22:56pm |
re: #28 chouch
Soo.... am I the only one on this site who voted for Obama? Hahaha.
Late night snack.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:23:30pm |
re: #33 slokat
possibly... but probably there was at least another.
Well, I don't think you have to be a conservative to understand that men in ski masks are NOT innocent.
Ahh well. Hopefully me and the other can team up.
I feel like being one of the only 2 Packer fans at a Vikings party and being forced to hide in the basement with the keg.
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:23:30pm |
re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin
You knew him? upding worthy. I would have cherished 5 minutes with him.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:23:46pm |
re: #28 chouch
Soo.... am I the only one on this site who voted for Obama? Hahaha.
So, what did you think of his first week?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:24:37pm |
re: #24 BatGuano
He was not only intelligent, he was a musician, and he was hilarious. You should read : "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman".
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:24:39pm |
re: #28 chouch
Soo.... am I the only one on this site who voted for Obama? Hahaha.
chouch
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Registered since: Jan 17, 2009 at 3:36 pm
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i'm looking for an authentication on the green smoke release code.....
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:24:44pm |
re: #34 redc1c4
so 10 percent of the threads would be tithey threads from now on?
that IS and intelligent design....
yeah, ten percent - but who is going to tell that to Charles?
lol
///how many are appropriate?
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freetoken Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:25:07pm |
Asimov last night... Feynman tonight... what's up for Friday night, Kurt Gödel:
Either mathematics is too big for the human mind or the human mind is more than a machine.
or Isaac Newton:
We build too many walls and not enough bridges.
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Moonbat Serenade Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:25:10pm |
I know this isn't real news to anybody, but I thought it was worth sharing. I got this off a forum that is oriented towards the college student/young adult genre...few (very few) conservative types. Almost constant Bush bashing, European socialist viewpoints galore...you can guess the rest. Anybody supporting the troops or conservative politics is shouted down immediately. Anyway, here is a recent post that pretty well sums it up:
Guys like xxxxxx think that because Bush was made fun of, they can do the same with Obama.
They have yet to come to grips that It doesn't quite work because Obama is not a hundredth the bumbling buffoon their hero was.
The poster is in his late 20's/early 30's with a wife, couple kids, college education and a good job.
Living proof of what a generations worth of social indoctrination provided by public school can do. It really saddens and angers me to see the efforts of "The Greatest Generation" torn to shreds in such a short time.
/end rant
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:25:19pm |
re: #38 Walter L. Newton
So, what did you think of his first week?
I liked Gitmo closing... I mean, who really needs it.
I didn't think he was going to release all them dudes though. Reminds me of Israel releasing Samir Kuntar so they can trade him for a box of bones :(
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grahamski Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:25:39pm |
Hmm, big gas ball..... reminds me of Barney Frank.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:26:08pm |
i'm firing up the grill in anticipation...... somebody get started on the snacks and pour the drinks.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:26:10pm |
re: #40 redc1c4 Authentication Whiskey Tango Foxtrot green smoke is a go.
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:26:11pm |
re: #36 chouch
Well, I don't think you have to be a conservative to understand that men in ski masks are NOT innocent.
translation please... lost me on that one.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:26:40pm |
Oh and getting the ball rolling on some science and research that was previously banned is a huge treat.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:27:05pm |
re: #28 chouch
not for long would be my guess...............
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:27:22pm |
re: #48 slokat
translation please... lost me on that one.
My conservative tendencies are a result of traveling to Israel for work and staying a long time and being sort of brainwashed by my Jewish friends.
Got to see some cool stuff over there. Nothing is as it seems though.
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SFGoth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:27:50pm |
I think it's Israelmatsav (link is at the top) with a long article on how Spain is issuing indictments against several top IDF officers for nailing Phakestinian criminals. How about if Israel issues indictments against Spain for the fucking Inquisition? How about that Espana? Your fucking socialist leaders can play proxy for King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella. Then the Mossad can spirit them out where they can stand trial. Oh, and the [bigoted word]s will love it too as you fuckers booted them out of Al-Andalus as well (not that I'm complaining mind you, but another bug up Spain's butt....) WTF has Spain, as a country, contributed to the world other than the extermination or enslavement of Meso-America?
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:28:21pm |
re: #39 Pvt Bin Jammin
I will, he is rising to the top of my reading list!
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:29:09pm |
OK. I'm going to post exactly what I posted before --- see if it was an "accident."
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Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:29:23pm |
re: #37 BatGuano
I wish I would have known him better. Our daughter's were in the same school orchestra and we were all of the supporting parents of the orchestra and school, as well as a private orchestra.. His daughter was here in the public schools but we had a huge community involvement, which included JPL, in the schools. He was nice to everybody, regardless of whether you had a PHD, and very fun to talk to.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:29:35pm |
re: #44 chouch
I liked Gitmo closing... I mean, who really needs it.
I didn't think he was going to release all them dudes though. Reminds me of Israel releasing Samir Kuntar so they can trade him for a box of bones :(
No one needs it. I'm not sure why we have prisons in general. I mean, we could just talk nicely to all those guys and ask them if we send them home, will they promise not to go back out and do something nasty, like killing Americans.
I'll have to ask that guy in Yemen, the one who went public last week, the one who is now the head of Al-queda in Yemem, the one we released last year and sent to Saudi Arabia, and they were going to rehabilitate him.
No, we don't really need it.
/s
You jerk.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:30:09pm |
re: #49 chouch
Oh and getting the ball rolling on some science and research that was previously banned is a huge treat.
Remind me, what was those projects?
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SFGoth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:30:22pm |
Speaking of bin jammin', I think I've now got Eric Bloom's guitar part on Blue Oyster Cult's "Quicklime Girl" down. It's only at the expense of studying German, but rockstars get way more, ummm, yeah, than dudes who can speak German.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:30:28pm |
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Bla-GONE-a-vich!
And so am I...
Gone-to-bed-a-vich!
Goodnight, {Lizards}
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:30:37pm |
re: #54 LeePro
OK. I'm going to post exactly what I posted before --- see if it was an "accident."
CHARLES.....
/
LOL
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:30:54pm |
re: #57 Walter L. Newton
Stem cell Research. It accompanied his repealing of bush's abortion plan.
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:31:02pm |
re: #39 Pvt Bin Jammin
I saw something years ago on his interest on lake Baikal.Classic!
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:31:12pm |
re: #56 Walter L. Newton
No one needs it. I'm not sure why we have prisons in general. I mean, we could just talk nicely to all those guys and ask them if we send them home, will they promise not to go back out and do something nasty, like killing Americans.
I'll have to ask that guy in Yemen, the one who went public last week, the one who is now the head of Al-queda in Yemem, the one we released last year and sent to Saudi Arabia, and they were going to rehabilitate him.
No, we don't really need it.
/sYou jerk.
I won't pretend I have any idea what you are talking about.
But I do love Yemenite women. They are hot.. and they cook great food. There is this stoner place in Jerusalem called Yemenite Delight that serves very fattening food, mostly this stuff called Malawach.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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ArchangelMichael Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:31:47pm |
re: #49 chouch
Oh and getting the ball rolling on some science and research that was previously banned is a huge treat.
Banning use of taxpayer money on "some science" != Banning "some science"
Did they really yammer on the talking points so much that they believe their own BS? Of course what am I thinking...
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Moonbat Serenade Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:31:56pm |
re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin
Richard Feynman. One of the finest men I have ever been privileged to know.
You will never be forgotten.
He was probably the greatest mind of the 20th century IMHO. I have a picture of him and his blackboard at the time of his death. My parents worked at Los Alamos when he was there, I wonder if one day he might have winked at my mom (quite the fetching nurse in her day).
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:32:24pm |
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:32:26pm |
re: #62 Rustler
Stem cell Research. It accompanied his repealing of bush's abortion plan.
I get the same feeling when I see someone with a Paul Wellstone bumper sticker as I do a pro-choice one.
I really want to let the air out of their tires.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:32:31pm |
re: #57 Walter L. Newton
Remind me, what was those projects?
may i politely suggest that GAZE is the appropriate reply to this entity's posts?
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:33:14pm |
Like Walter said, the alternatives to prison, is no prisons.
Charles Manson lives 8 miles from me, would you like me to send him to your house to live and learn to integrate back into society?
I'm sure your influence could be the key to his rehabilitation...
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:33:33pm |
re: #58 redc1c4
you're either an idiot, or a troll.......
but i repeat myself.
/green smoke out
Flamebait refused sir.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:33:35pm |
re: #54 LeePro
You have two plusses so far. I really don't think it was bad and if it was we have gone into the complete PC correctness mode.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:34:04pm |
re: #62 Rustler
Stem cell Research. It accompanied his repealing of bush's abortion plan.
Stem cell research wasn't banned, just financing it with public funds. Personally, that's good, IMO, but the facts are facts and they have been misrepresented.
And the same thing with the abortion stuff. We had a ban on giving US funds to NGO overseas that promoted abortion. That's was fine with me. The day you show me that a fetus, if left to live, is going to turn into anything other than a baby, then I'll agree with abortion. A human fetus is never going to be a rabbit or anything else. Period.
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UncleSam Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:34:05pm |
"Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!" (Richard Feynman's autobiography) is one of the best, most interesting and entertaining books I've ever read.
Everyone with even the slightest interest in science and history should read it.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:34:10pm |
re: #62 Rustler
Stem cell Research. It accompanied his repealing of bush's abortion plan.
except that embryonic stems cells are, IIRC, turning out to be nearly useless.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:34:40pm |
re: #64 chouch
This is what walter is talking about.
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — Before he was released from Guantanamo, a Saudi detainee insisted he had only wanted to help refugees and was not a fighter. Now, as an al-Qaida field commander sporting a bandolier of bullets, he is threatening the United States and has been hailed by a militant Web site as a veteran guerrilla and "a fomenter of war."
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:35:04pm |
re: #70 SFGoth
"Chouch" brings to mind Cheech & Chong. Meh
he reminds me of 50 pounds of animated horseshit in a 5 pound bag.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:36:05pm |
re: #13 karmic_inquisitor
Get ready for a cold summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
How will natural events such as this affect our carbon output? Will America be penalized when our volcanoes erupt?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:36:08pm |
re: #64 chouch
I won't pretend I have any idea what you are talking about.
But I do love Yemenite women. They are hot.. and they cook great food. There is this stoner place in Jerusalem called Yemenite Delight that serves very fattening food, mostly this stuff called Malawach.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Then I would suggest that you shut the fuck up, and we really don't give two flying shits about your international sex adventures.
You are not starting off very good here. This is an anti-idiotarian blog, promoting critical thinking and so far, you fail.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:36:38pm |
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:36:46pm |
re: #78 Rustler
This is what walter is talking about.
Interesting. I am far more concerned about the Somali people we had go "missing" recently and who have turned up training for urban warfare on our streets.
I live in an area with a sizable Somali population, so this has added to already increased tensions.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:36:59pm |
re: #72 slokat
Like Walter said, the alternatives to prison, is no prisons.
Charles Manson lives 8 miles from me, would you like me to send him to your house to live and learn to integrate back into society?
I'm sure your influence could be the key to his rehabilitation...
lock'em in the same cell and just GAZE...............
/hint
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:37:16pm |
re: #75 Walter L. Newton
Yeah but I think that's what he is refering to.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:37:39pm |
re: #83 LeePro
I posted a theory downstairs for you to consider.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:37:42pm |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
Then I would suggest that you shut the fuck up, and we really don't give two flying shits about your international sex adventures.
You are not starting off very good here. This is an anti-idiotarian blog, promoting critical thinking and so far, you fail.
You are not going to bait me into a flame battle either, sorry. That is beneath me.
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grahamski Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:38:36pm |
re: #56 Walter L. Newton
No one needs it. I'm not sure why we have prisons in general. I mean, we could just talk nicely to all those guys and ask them if we send them home, will they promise not to go back out and do something nasty, like killing Americans.
I'll have to ask that guy in Yemen, the one who went public last week, the one who is now the head of Al-queda in Yemem, the one we released last year and sent to Saudi Arabia, and they were going to rehabilitate him.
No, we don't really need it.
/sYou jerk.
Exactly, I don't see why we are holding them prisoner..... after all, rope is still cheap.... Hell, we could make the libs happy and use hemp rope.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:38:59pm |
re: #81 Sharmuta
How will natural events such as this affect our carbon output? Will America be penalized when our volcanoes erupt?
maybe3 we could jam Big Mouth Al in the volcano, and keep it from erupting?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:39:44pm |
re: #72 slokat
Like Walter said, the alternatives to prison, is no prisons.
Charles Manson lives 8 miles from me, would you like me to send him to your house to live and learn to integrate back into society?
I'm sure your influence could be the key to his rehabilitation...
I have a good friend, he's in his late 60's, was a pop singer, well known, not on the "A" list though, but anyway, he visited Manson once in prison.
My friend is a certified psychotic, that's why he had to leave the music business in the late 70's, and he said that Manson was the most scary "thing" he ever spoke to.
And speaking to my friend would rattle most normal people to start with.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:40:00pm |
re: #90 redc1c4
Nah that will just make for increased toxic emissions from the Volcano. Has anyone reliably tested the carbon output of Al Gores mouth?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:40:23pm |
re: #89 grahamski
Exactly, I don't see why we are holding them prisoner..... after all, rope is still cheap.... Hell, we could make the libs happy and use hemp rope.
under the laws of land warfare, all illegal combatants are eligible for summary execution by the capturing power.
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:40:49pm |
re: #81 Sharmuta
Sharm, Quite so. America is penalized when a hippo passes gas.
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BryanS Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:41:10pm |
re: #75 Walter L. Newton
And the same thing with the abortion stuff. We had a ban on giving US funds to NGO overseas that promoted abortion. That's was fine with me. The day you show me that a fetus, if left to live, is going to turn into anything other than a baby, then I'll agree with abortion. A human fetus is never going to be a rabbit or anything else. Period.
Absolutely--no need to appeal to any faith based reasoning to agree with that. It's annoying that libtards reject any rational reasons to oppose abortion by rejecting them as religious extremism.
Bush's policy limiting federal funding seemed like a reasonable approach to avoid avaricious experimenting on human embryos.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:41:40pm |
re: #88 chouch
You are not going to bait me into a flame battle either, sorry. That is beneath me.
Then I would advise you not to start acting like a jerk here, it's not well taken.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:42:32pm |
re: #95 BryanS I really love that killing a convicted murderer is wrong but killing an innocent fetus is A ok in the libtards world.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:42:36pm |
re: #96 Walter L. Newton
Then I would advise you not to start acting like a jerk here, it's not well taken.
I know, I'm a complete manyak for mentioning I voted for Obama and that I support Israel. Sorry if that fried your circuits.
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Moonbat Serenade Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:42:47pm |
re: #13 karmic_inquisitor
Get ready for a cold summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Quick ! Somebody call Al Gore! He's the only one who can save us...well, maybe not the ONLY one....if you cant get Al, call the President....he could reason with the volcano, stuff The Egg of Power in it....something....I hope.
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:43:46pm |
re: #90 redc1c4
maybe3 we could jam Big Mouth Al in the volcano, and keep it from erupting?
I think it's unfair to Al that you couch it in those terms...
;) /kat smoke
btw- Wind Tamer still languishes in Wilmington due to DC system issues, and other unrelated personal schedules.
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Cygnus Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:43:54pm |
re: #79 redc1c4
he reminds me of 50 pounds of animated horseshit in a 5 pound bag.
Does animated horses**t come from a 'toon horse?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:44:32pm |
re: #97 Rustler
I really love that killing a convicted murderer is wrong but killing an innocent fetus is A ok in the libtards world.
the (darkly) funniest part of it is that abortion is heavily skewed to aborting "fetuses of color", here and abroad. you'd think they'd be screaming racism.
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:44:39pm |
re: #99 Moonbat Serenade
As long as we have The One, don't worry.
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least Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:44:54pm |
re: #39 Pvt Bin Jammin
. . . You should read : "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman".
A most excellent book.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:45:01pm |
re: #66 Moonbat Serenade
He probably winked at your Mom. LOL
I knew his second wife, Gweneth. They had two adopted children but we only knew the daughter. The movie about the first wife, I believe, was largely inspired by his adopted daughter from the second wife. They were just cool, intelligent, hard working, community involved wonderful people. I remember one day when all of the orchestra mothers were putting together a big event at the Art Center and Gweneth said to me, "It's always us, isn't it?" "The same old parents who care about their kids." "Where's everybody else?" She and Richard both had cancer at that time and their daughter was 18 yrs. old.
I have such lovely memories of them. Their daughter is a jewel.
I am out, lizards, getting nostalgic. Love you all.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:45:12pm |
re: #98 chouch A you mentioned it only to rile people up and try and start something. This is followed by your follow up quote which makes no sence but talks about men in ski masks.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:45:48pm |
re: #100 slokat
I think it's unfair to Al that you couch it in those terms...
;) /kat smoke
btw- Wind Tamer still languishes in Wilmington due to DC system issues, and other unrelated personal schedules.
i'd been meaning to ask..... it's been awhile: is that where she's been all along?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:46:01pm |
re: #95 BryanS
Absolutely--no need to appeal to any faith based reasoning to agree with that. It's annoying that libtards reject any rational reasons to oppose abortion by rejecting them as religious extremism.
Bush's policy limiting federal funding seemed like a reasonable approach to avoid avaricious experimenting on human embryos.
Before you "support" my comment, let me clarify something. First, I'm an atheist, so I have no "religious" dog in this fight.
Second, I am not for a total ban on abortion. Allowing abortions for medical reasons in regards to the mother and rapes of very young girls is fine with me.
But abortion for birth control, which is the only other reason left, no, no way.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:46:22pm |
re: #106 Rustler
A you mentioned it only to rile people up and try and start something. This is followed by your follow up quote which makes no sence but talks about men in ski masks.
So now you are completely aware of the intentions behind my every statement? Amazing trick. Tell me how you do that.
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BryanS Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:46:32pm |
re: #97 Rustler
I really love that killing a convicted murderer is wrong but killing an innocent fetus is A ok in the libtards world.
Would be funny if it were not so sad--but in the libtard's world, morals become reversed out of some perverse desire to not be to religious. It's actually worse than moral relativism--hate Isreali liberal democracy and support radical repressive Palestinian cleptocracy.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:46:45pm |
re: #87 Sharmuta
I posted a theory downstairs for you to consider.
Interesting...
Except for one thing... I don't believe I have ever EVER commented on that topic...
I just don't believe Charles would jump my ass like that.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:47:06pm |
re: #106 Rustler
A you mentioned it only to rile people up and try and start something. This is followed by your follow up quote which makes no sence but talks about men in ski masks.
hence most of us just GAZEing at this time........
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:47:54pm |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
But abortion for birth control, which is the only other reason left, no, no way.
So the morning after pill is out huh? Well I think it should be made available everywhere.
I don't see any benefit to banning it.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:47:55pm |
re: #94 BatGuano
Sharm, Quite so. America is penalized when a hippo passes gas.
You're allowed to say fart in here.
[UP-ding]
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:47:56pm |
re: #81 Sharmuta
How will natural events such as this affect our carbon output? Will America be penalized when our volcanoes erupt?
Thing is that volcanoes inject SO2 into the stratosphere. That essentially reflects sunlight. So it should have a cooling effect. So maybe we can ask for a "credit"
Anyway, AGW catastrophists will say that cooling things off won't matter much because CO2 will still have accumulated to levels higher than they are now so once the cooling effect is gone the warming will resume.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:48:03pm |
re: #109 chouch
Well the laughter at the end of the first comment and the utter senselessness of the 2nd allows that that is the only logical conclusion.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:48:27pm |
re: #111 LeePro
Interesting...
Except for one thing... I don't believe I have ever EVER commented on that topic...
I just don't believe Charles would jump my ass like that.
maybe he thinks you're cute?
/white smoke!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:48:41pm |
re: #98 chouch
I know, I'm a complete manyak for mentioning I voted for Obama and that I support Israel. Sorry if that fried your circuits.
No, it's the way you framed your first comment and then your retort, mentioning points that had fucking nothing to do with your first comment NOR my comment to you.
Buck up and play nice.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:49:23pm |
re: #116 Rustler
Well the laughter at the end of the first comment and the utter senselessness of the 2nd allows that that is the only logical conclusion.
Perhaps, the interrogative nature of my question (thus the question mark at the end) meant I was seeking an answer.
I have been curious about that for months now. So I asked. No need to read any further into that.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:50:02pm |
re: #115 karmic_inquisitor
Thing is that volcanoes inject SO2 into the stratosphere. That essentially reflects sunlight. So it should have a cooling effect. So maybe we can ask for a "credit"
Anyway, AGW catastrophists will say that cooling things off won't matter much because CO2 will still have accumulated to levels higher than they are now so once the cooling effect is gone the warming will resume.
not if they all freeze in the meantime....
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:50:11pm |
re: #113 chouch
So the morning after pill is out huh? Well I think it should be made available everywhere. I don't see any benefit to banning it.
Well, I would have made an exception for you. But that would have been for medical reasons.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:50:16pm |
re: #118 Walter L. Newton
No, it's the way you framed your first comment and then your retort, mentioning points that had fucking nothing to do with your first comment NOR my comment to you.
Buck up and play nice.
Again, having wanted to ask this question for a while.. I had prepared an answer for the reply I expected "then why are you here?'
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BryanS Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:50:21pm |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
Before you "support" my comment, let me clarify something. First, I'm an atheist, so I have no "religious" dog in this fight.
Second, I am not for a total ban on abortion. Allowing abortions for medical reasons in regards to the mother and rapes of very young girls is fine with me.
But abortion for birth control, which is the only other reason left, no, no way.
Same here...from religious point of view. Jonah Goldberg has a great essay explaining a non-religious rationale for opposing abortion.
It doesn't take religion to decide that murder is wrong--so the question is when does life begin? I'm with Jonah in answering that I really cannot say I know, but hey, out of an excess of caution, let's just try to be sure we aren't murdering, eh?
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:52:48pm |
re: #117 redc1c4
maybe he thinks you're cute?
/white smoke!
Hahahahahahahaha!
Thanks for the compliment, red!
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:53:10pm |
re: #111 LeePro
I saw it when you posted it, then I saw it get deleted. That's what I thought was the motivation. And it wasn't an ass jumping, it was a deletion. But since you don't comment on those threads, I'll tell you- Charles deletes comments calling the topic boring.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:53:11pm |
re: #123 BryanS
Concidering they were charging people for double homicides for killing women less than 2 months pregnant the law should have some consistancy for determining the point at which life occurs. But I feel Birth control should be a preventative measure not one after the fact. Abortions should only be legal in cases of rape, or health issues for the mother.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:53:29pm |
re: #119 chouch
Perhaps, the interrogative nature of my question (thus the question mark at the end) meant I was seeking an answer.
I have been curious about that for months now. So I asked. No need to read any further into that.
How old are you? Yes, sure, that's how I would jump into a thread with my first comment, maybe something like " Soo.... am I the only one on this site who thought that Bush was a jerk? Hahaha."
Yep, that would have certainly made me look like I was seriously looking for a honest answer.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:53:48pm |
Well, my whole point is to allow drugs that prevent the prevent fertilization of an egg.
You can argue that, in rare cases, an egg can become fertilized and then prevented from implanting. I guess that would be more of an "abortion pill" but I've yet to see any research saying that is likely, if the proper procedures are followed.
I'm not a registered Liberal btw, I only stated who I voted for during the last election. I have voted for president a few times now.
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:54:35pm |
re: #114 LeePro
I am too cultured to permit myself to say, fart, ripped one, or what died inside!
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:54:46pm |
re: #127 Walter L. Newton
How old are you? Yes, sure, that's how I would jump into a thread with my first comment, maybe something like " Soo.... am I the only one on this site who thought that Bush was a jerk? Hahaha."
Yep, that would have certainly made me look like I was seriously looking for a honest answer.
The old 1,2 punch.. ad hominem mixed with putting words into my mouth.
Is this digg or something?
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:54:47pm |
re: #128 chouch
Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:54:58pm |
re: #125 Sharmuta
I saw it when you posted it, then I saw it get deleted. That's what I thought was the motivation. And it wasn't an ass jumping, it was a deletion. But since you don't comment on those threads, I'll tell you- Charles deletes comments calling the topic boring.
Well, then...
:/
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BryanS Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:55:54pm |
re: #128 chouch
Well, my whole point is to allow drugs that prevent the prevent fertilization of an egg.
You can argue that, in rare cases, an egg can become fertilized and then prevented from implanting. I guess that would be more of an "abortion pill" but I've yet to see any research saying that is likely, if the proper procedures are followed.
I'm not a registered Liberal btw, I only stated who I voted for during the last election. I have voted for president a few times now.
Since you are an Obama voter, I have to ask...how many elections versus how many votes for president :)
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:56:35pm |
re: #133 BryanS ///He's 19 years old registered 23 times but only voted 14.
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:56:48pm |
re: #131 Rustler
Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization.
"Emergency contraceptive pills (ECPs)—sometimes simply referred to as emergency contraceptives (ECs) or the "morning-after pill"—are drugs that act both to prevent ovulation or fertilization and possibly post-fertilization implantation of a blastocyst (embryo). ECPs are distinct from medical abortion methods that act after implantation."
Notice the POSSIBLY.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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slokat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:56:48pm |
re: #107 redc1c4
Yes, got to fire up the diesel and run it back and forth in the slip right after Christmas, but the engine replacement process seems to have caused problems with the wiring. Need to find out the cause. Means crawling through lockers and testing wires. Can't go to sea without nav lights and radios and radar/gps equipment.
Might turn out to be something simple & overlooked.
You missed the scene with me hoisting Mrs. slokat up the main mast in the bosun's chair to replace one of the running lights...
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:57:09pm |
re: #129 BatGuano
I am too cultured to permit myself to say, fart, ripped one, or what died inside!
how about "barking spiders"?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:57:21pm |
re: #123 BryanS
Same here...from religious point of view. Jonah Goldberg has a great essay explaining a non-religious rationale for opposing abortion.
It doesn't take religion to decide that murder is wrong--so the question is when does life begin? I'm with Jonah in answering that I really cannot say I know, but hey, out of an excess of caution, let's just try to be sure we aren't murdering, eh?
Well, if there is a reasonable medical reason, fine, if you see it as murder, I won't try to change that opinion, but I am realistic enough to understand there are times when innocent people die to help save others.
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Racer X Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:58:48pm |
Me!
Me!
Me!
I want this thread to be about ME!
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chouch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:59:05pm |
re: #133 BryanS
Since you are an Obama voter, I have to ask...how many elections versus how many votes for president :)
Ahh, the old ACORN riff. You don't seem like a hack, so I will indulge your 2-D argument.
You see, many people are canvasing streets prior to an election. Many of these activists, on both side are registering people for voting.. many have quotas.
So people get re-registered whether they are pressured into it or simply have moved or forgotten their previous registration.
Because you register in two different locales does not mean you end up voting twice.
Did any evidence of extensive fraud during the election really even surface?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:59:08pm |
re: #131 Rustler
Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization.
He's all over the place, jumping in here with half knowledge of the topics he's trying to discuss and he wonders why this room is so hard.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 11:59:12pm |
re: #131 Rustler
Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization.
which is why some pharmacists refuse to dispense them. here in CA theye are OTC for 18 and above, but prescription under that age.
there's a whole section of pharmacy law that covers just that drug........
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BatGuano Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:00:23am |
re: #137 redc1c4
That is my wife's explanation and I do not question it.
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least Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:00:34am |
re: #98 chouch
I know, I'm a complete manyak for mentioning I voted for Obama and that I support Israel. Sorry if that fried your circuits.
Chouch: about 2 inches to the left of the "post this comment" button is a "check spelling" button.
USE IT
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:00:39am |
The Feynman point is the sequence of six 9s which begins at the 762nd decimal place of π. It is named after physicist Richard Feynman, who once stated during a lecture he would like to memorize the digits of π until that point, so he could recite them and quip "nine nine nine nine nine nine and so on."
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BryanS Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:00:40am |
re: #126 Rustler
Concidering they were charging people for double homicides for killing women less than 2 months pregnant the law should have some consistancy for determining the point at which life occurs. But I feel Birth control should be a preventative measure not one after the fact. Abortions should only be legal in cases of rape, or health issues for the mother.
Agreed that birth control should be preventative.
Question I'd love liberals to answer...if abortion is a personal choice, then why all the financial support for single mothers? Are liberals supporting this policy because they believe a single mother has a positive right to have a child? If carrying a pregnancy to term is a personal choice, then why is the government paying for that personal choice? Or is their policy to make single motherhood the preferred family structure?
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:00:57am |
re: #132 LeePro
See what happens when you don't join threads? :p
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:01:03am |
re: #141 chouch Yes there were numerous distracts in which more people voted than were registered to vote.
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:01:35am |
re: #143 redc1c4
which is why some pharmacists refuse to dispense them. here in CA theye are OTC for 18 and above, but prescription under that age.
there's a whole section of pharmacy law that covers just that drug........
Well, it is a common misconception (pun intended) that they drop fertilized eggs after they have implanted.
This is odd... I am so used to fighting ultra-liberals & teenage muslims all day with their constant lies about Israel. lol
And don't even get me started on Norwegians.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:02:00am |
re: #128 chouch
What precisely is a 'registered liberal'?
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:02:44am |
re: #145 least
Chouch: about 2 inches to the left of the "post this comment" button is a "check spelling" button.
USE IT
What word did I spell wrong professor?
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Racer X Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:02:46am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:03:36am |
re: #150 chouch
Well, it is a common misconception (pun intended) that they drop fertilized eggs after they have implanted.
This is odd... I am so used to fighting ultra-liberals & teenage muslims all day with their constant lies about Israel. lol
And don't even get me started on Norwegians.
What problem do you have with Norwegians?
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Racer X Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:03:37am |
re: #152 MrPaulRevere
What precisely is a 'registered liberal'?
Someone who has the signed release papers.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:03:43am |
re: #155 Racer X
It's a hybrid related to the minotaur except half man half yak instead of cow.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:04:05am |
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:05:13am |
re: #139 Racer X
Me!
Me!
Me!I want this thread to be about ME!
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:05:55am |
re: #155 Racer X
What is a "manyak"?
Wait. Don't answer.
Well its Fucker in Arabic (although I'm not sure where its used besides Israel) We do have a user name Sharmuta here so...
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]
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slokat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:05:59am |
So Racer X it is all about you... and ManYaks, unfortunately.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:06:09am |
re: #136 slokat
Yes, got to fire up the diesel and run it back and forth in the slip right after Christmas, but the engine replacement process seems to have caused problems with the wiring. Need to find out the cause. Means crawling through lockers and testing wires. Can't go to sea without nav lights and radios and radar/gps equipment.
Might turn out to be something simple & overlooked.
You missed the scene with me hoisting Mrs. slokat up the main mast in the bosun's chair to replace one of the running lights...
well, since you more or less drove right by our house to get there, who;s fault is that?
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:06:23am |
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BryanS Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:06:59am |
re: #141 chouch
Ahh, the old ACORN riff. You don't seem like a hack, so I will indulge your 2-D argument.
You see, many people are canvasing streets prior to an election. Many of these activists, on both side are registering people for voting.. many have quotas.
So people get re-registered whether they are pressured into it or simply have moved or forgotten their previous registration.
Because you register in two different locales does not mean you end up voting twice.
Did any evidence of extensive fraud during the election really even surface?
Just my personal observation. Not this election...but for Clinton's re-election--I stood in line behind an individual I knew at the polling station. This individual when she got up to vote claimed to live at an address I was the property manager for. She lied...out right lied. What's worse, the poll worker also happened to work at that same property and knew for a fact that this person did not live there (she used to). The poll worker got his supervisor because he did not feel comfortable allowing this person to vote, knowing that there were two witnesses that knew she was lying about where she lived. The poll supervisor over ruled the poll worker and allowed this person to vote.
If such a blatant violation of voting rules can happen, some not so ones happening would not surprise me.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:07:27am |
Morning Lizards. Hopen today is better than yesterday and that 44 doesn't weaken the USA any further. Somehow I doubt it tho.
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Racer X Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:07:53am |
re: #166 chouch
So, are you really a complete manyak, or just a partial?
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LeePro Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:07:59am |
re: #129 BatGuano
I am too cultured to permit myself to say, fart, ripped one, or what died inside!
Yes, I, too, was raised to be a most polite and genteel lady. I could never use the fucking shitty language you hear on these threads!
¦^
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:08:32am |
re: #131 Rustler
Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization.
from the PlanB package insert:
Emergency contraceptives are not effective if the woman is already pregnant. Plan B® is
believed to act as an emergency contraceptive principally by preventing ovulation or fertilization
(by altering tubal transport of sperm and/or ova). In addition, it may inhibit implantation (by
altering the endometrium). It is not effective once the process of implantation has begun.
whole thing is here
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least Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:08:56am |
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:08:59am |
lol I spelled it right. Still waiting on that retraction from least.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:09:35am |
re: #152 MrPaulRevere
What precisely is a 'registered liberal'?
i don't know, but it makes more sense than registering guns.....
/can we get them neutered too?
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:09:43am |
re: #174 redc1c4
from the PlanB package insert:
Emergency contraceptives are not effective if the woman is already pregnant. Plan B® is
believed to act as an emergency contraceptive principally by preventing ovulation or fertilization
(by altering tubal transport of sperm and/or ova). In addition, it may inhibit implantation (by
altering the endometrium). It is not effective once the process of implantation has begun.whole thing is here
Yes. That appears correct.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:10:43am |
re: #141 chouch
Ahh, the old ACORN riff. You don't seem like a hack, so I will indulge your 2-D argument.
You see, many people are canvasing streets prior to an election. Many of these activists, on both side are registering people for voting.. many have quotas.
So people get re-registered whether they are pressured into it or simply have moved or forgotten their previous registration.
Because you register in two different locales does not mean you end up voting twice.
Did any evidence of extensive fraud during the election really even surface?
It seems like ACORN admitted it themselves...
ACORN. is known for targeting their voter registration drives primarily in lower-income communities, ACORN has acknowledged problems[14] with some new voter registrations they have collected, citing issues[15] they claim[16] are common among major voter registration drives regardless of political affinity or party affiliation.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:11:13am |
re: #141 chouch
Well, when you dismantle enforcement mechanisms its very easy to jump up and down and say 'look, no voter fraud here'. It's like removing all the stop signs and saying 'no one is running stop signs.'
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slokat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:11:53am |
re: #168 redc1c4
well, since you more or less drove right by our house to get there, who;s fault is that?
Actually, that trip I was in bumper to bumper traffic from the base of the grapevine all the way to the 5/110 interchange. Coming from Yosemite area down 99, forgot everyone would want to go home...
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BryanS Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:02am |
re: #138 Walter L. Newton
Well, if there is a reasonable medical reason, fine, if you see it as murder, I won't try to change that opinion, but I am realistic enough to understand there are times when innocent people die to help save others.
Abortions for medical reasons--real ones like physical safety and not just "depression"--seem to me like an area that the government should not interfere with .
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:04am |
re: #182 Walter L. Newton
It seems like ACORN admitted it themselves...
ACORN. is known for targeting their voter registration drives primarily in lower-income communities, ACORN has acknowledged problems[14] with some new voter registrations they have collected, citing issues[15] they claim[16] are common among major voter registration drives regardless of political affinity or party affiliation.
I could really give two shits. Someone asked if I voted twice. I did not. I don't know anyone who did.
From what I hear, the penalties are rather stiff. Seems that voting multiple times is frowned upon.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:15am |
re: #183 MrPaulRevere Like having armed Black Panthers show up to voting locations to "prevent voter intimidation by republicans".
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:22am |
So.... tonight's going to be slightly less denigrating than last night?
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:25am |
re: #180 redc1c4
Is the bbq ready yet red? The beer is cold.
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BatGuano Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:31am |
re: #173 LeePro
Dear lady, we are kindred spirits to high minded to lower ourselves to the fucking vernacular.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:52am |
I'd advise every one to put on their GAZE Googles before I lose some good friends
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:12:56am |
re: #157 Walter L. Newton
What problem do you have with Norwegians?
my wife must have kicked his nuts off at one time or another.......
/likely for being a moron, from the evidence here.
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BryanS Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:13:25am |
re: #186 chouch
I could really give two shits. Someone asked if I voted twice. I did not. I don't know anyone who did.
From what I hear, the penalties are rather stiff. Seems that voting multiple times is frowned upon.
Penalties could be tough if anyone bothered to enforce them.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:13:29am |
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:14:04am |
re: #193 Rustler
Just as justification for Chouch calling himself a Manyak(homosexual).
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:14:36am |
re: #183 MrPaulRevere
Well, when you dismantle enforcement mechanisms its very easy to jump up and down and say 'look, no voter fraud here'. It's like removing all the stop signs and saying 'no one is running stop signs.'
Hey, if they did it then throw the book at them!
I also voted for Al Franken! That wasn't meant to incite, but remind you that Coleman did say he would step down and concede if he was in Franken's shoes.. never mind the close election triggered an automatic recount in this state.
Anyhow, it is on that note, that I leave you all. Have fun kids. If Franken ends up losing I will appear here in chains so you can throw rotten squash at me, ok?
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Racer X Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:15:26am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:16:34am |
re: #186 chouch
I could really give two shits. Someone asked if I voted twice. I did not. I don't know anyone who did.
From what I hear, the penalties are rather stiff. Seems that voting multiple times is frowned upon.
I don't care if you don't give two shits. You're the asshole who posed the question about ACORN and after I give you some information, now you don't give two shits.
Wow, that's a real scientific study on your part. You didn't vote twice and none of your friends did. I can say with certainty that you never studied statistics.
Heaven help us if they let you out of the home on weekends.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:16:39am |
OMG! Now 0bama's being given credit for stopping creationism in Texas!
Finally, during Obama’s first week in office, the Texas State Board of Education ended a 20-year policy of smuggling creationism into the science curriculum.
I'm going to barf.
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:16:47am |
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:17:17am |
re: #197 chouch
I have to ask. What the hell is wrong with you? Did you fall out of the Minnesota stupid tree and hit every damn branch on the way down?
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Racer X Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:17:42am |
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FamHistoryGuy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:17:54am |
re: #169 chouch
Idiot druggie husband gave her AIDS. Beautiful woman with an exquisite voice.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:17:58am |
re: #197 chouch
"I also voted for Al Franken!" Why am I not surprised. How any sentient being could vote for Al Franken is beyond me.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:18:24am |
Sharmuta is Arabic for a woman who sleeps around he called himself a Manyak someone asked him to use spell check he called a Manyak arabic for Fucker and said it should be ok cause we have a sharmuta.
re: #204 Sharmuta
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:18:48am |
re: #208 MrPaulRevere
"I also voted for Al Franken!" Why am I not surprised. How any sentient being could vote for Al Franken is beyond me.
No sentient being could. What does that have to do with the current discussion?
;)
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:18:59am |
re: #13 karmic_inquisitor
Get ready for a cold summer -
Mt Redoubt near Anchorage is about to erupt. That will put a lot of particulates in the air around the arctic this summer and should inhibit the melt this summer. Colder air in the northern hemisphere.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
We need to plug the vent with some large inert mass. Where's Al Gore when you need him?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:19:00am |
re: #205 logboy
I have to ask. What the hell is wrong with you? Did you fall out of the Minnesota stupid tree and hit every damn branch on the way down?
Maisey the Aprrot was asleep. LOL real loud. She fell off the perch.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:19:22am |
re: #166 chouch
Well its Fucker in Arabic (although I'm not sure where its used besides Israel) We do have a user name Sharmuta here so...
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]
What about it?
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FamHistoryGuy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:20:43am |
re: #175 Karridine
Introduced to her here on one of the threads. Have several of her videos on YT bookmarked.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:20:46am |
re: #191 Neo Con since 9-11
I'd advise every one to put on their GAZE Googles before I lose some good friends
i've been saying the same thing.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:20:49am |
2 years ago Franken was saying how much he hated America. Then suddenly he decides he wants to run for office and a bunch of idiots believe the shit coming out of his mouth and vote for him. I'm suddenly remembering why I moved back to Wisconsin.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:21:05am |
re: #209 Rustler
Yes, and "Sharmuta" got stuck in a spam filter before I got completely registered. I specifically asked Charles if he objected to the nic, and he never said anything.
We also have a "Sharmutah" that pre-dates me.
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Winslow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:21:16am |
O Jupiter
O Jupiter, immense and spinning sphere,
Thy methane and ammonia are so dear.
Thy moons like pearls do whirl around thy girth,
And put to shame the lonely moon of Earth.
O Jupiter, thou gleameth in the night,
Thy colored bands reflecting spectral light.
Thy spot of red, a storm that never dies;
O Jupiter, thou'rt music to mine eyes.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:22:14am |
re: #218 Sharmuta Yeah I have no offense to the name he just brought it up after someone questioned his spelling. I'm thinking they thought he meant Maniac not Manyac.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:22:19am |
re: #208 MrPaulRevere
"I also voted for Al Franken!" Why am I not surprised. How any sentient being could vote for Al Franken is beyond me.
His knowledge of current events, election issues and general lack of information on what he was talking about makes me believe there is no way he voted for President or Franken.
Wait, re-reading my paragraph above, I changed my mind. Yes he did vote.
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least Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:22:50am |
re: #179 chouch
I would be willing to bet a large sum that there are very few of us lizards who had any idea that you were throwing out an arabic idiom.
I will also bet another large sum that most lizards (many of whom you got off to a bad start with) assumed that, "that asshat can't even spell."
So I apologize for thinking you couldn't spell "maniac"
No apologies for the other thoughts
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:23:07am |
re: #191 Neo Con since 9-11
I'd advise every one to put on their GAZE Googles before I lose some good friends
We will try and play nice.
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BatGuano Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:23:10am |
re: #208 MrPaulRevere
No sentient being could vote for Al Franken
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:23:55am |
re: #208 MrPaulRevere
"I also voted for Al Franken!" Why am I not surprised. How any sentient being could vote for Al Franken is beyond me.
key word being "sentient".................
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:23:57am |
Night all, that was gamey, now I have to go brush my teeth.
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FamHistoryGuy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:24:09am |
re: #186 chouch
Ohio refused to implement a verification system because it would "crash the system". It was covered here throughly.
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LeePro Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:24:25am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:24:42am |
re: #211 Alberta Oil Peon
We need to plug the vent with some large inert mass. Where's Al Gore when you need him?
GMTA, but they told me it wouldn't w*rk......
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LeePro Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:26:18am |
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:27:27am |
I knew what 'Sharmuta' meant in Arabic before I ever registered at LGF. I never read any deeper meaning into the choice of the nickname. I think its kinda clever actually.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:27:36am |
Hmmmm... we managed to get Chouch down to -104. I was hoping they would stick around so we could ding some more.
Minnesota liberals are the worst. Some of the most arrogant, ignorant, close minded people I have ever had the displeasure of living with. I'm so glad I moved away.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:29:15am |
re: #234 logboy
Hmmmm... we managed to get Chouch down to -104. I was hoping they would stick around so we could ding some more.
Minnesota liberals are the worst. Some of the most arrogant, ignorant, close minded people I have ever had the displeasure of living with. I'm so glad I moved away.
well, we can all go back and ding anything we each missed......
/white smoke
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:30:15am |
re: #234 logboy
BTW: from your story the other night, about the Soldier that got shot on the range....... what was the outcome of that, if you don't mind?
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:30:36am |
re: #234 logboy
But you didn't like my joke the other night?
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:32:01am |
A man came home from work, sat down in his favorite chair, turned on the TV, and said to his wife, "Quick, bring me a beer before it starts.
"She looked a little puzzled, but brought him a beer.
When he finished it, he said, "Quick, bring me another beer. It's gonna start."
This time she looked a little angry, but brought him a beer.
When it was gone, he said, "Quick, another beer, it's gonna start any second."
"That's it!" She blows her top, "You bastard! You waltz in here, flop your fat ass down, don't even say hello to me and then expect me to run around like your slave. Don't you realize that I cook and clean and wash and iron all day long?"
The husband sighed. "Oh shit, it's started!"
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:33:49am |
re: #237 redc1c4
He died instantly. Range control were in serious trouble, but range procedures were changed for the better. My buddy is still a little messed up, although I'm pretty sure the time we spent in Iraq has glossed over the experience.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:34:31am |
re: #234 logboy
I can understand being upset with the Bush administration. I have democrats in the family and on a certain level can relate to them. But I will NEVER, EVER, understand a vote for Al Franken.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:34:33am |
re: #238 Sharmuta
But you didn't like my joke the other night?
That was awesome. I'm telling that one to my MN friends.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:34:45am |
What does it look like when professional and amateur magicians get together on a forum and discuss global warming?
It's threads like these on other forums that make even the trolliest thread on LGF bearable!
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LeePro Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:37:56am |
re: #240 slokat
We? I thought I was all alone in my office... now I'm worried.
Heh.
...and you can't even see me!
btw, I actually do spend occasional time at your "office," drinking in your excellent photography!
G'nite, again.
;)
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:39:03am |
re: #241 Iron Fist
I don't know that I'd call that "funny". Frightening is more the term I'd use. What's her name, Margret Sanger? - anyway the chick that started Planned Parenthood was virulently racist and her organization carries on her blatently racist work at aborting black babies. They are also very tolerant of Stat Rape. The main reason that they fight so hard against parental notification is out of concern for what would happen if a 30-40 year old man got a 15-16 year old pregnant.
As I've commented before, I find it damned odd that getting a tattoo is more heavily regulated (under 18 is illegal unless it is a cover-up, and even then only with parental permission) than having an abortion. Not to mention that the clinical standards for tattoo parlors is significantly greater than abortion mills. IIRC, they were fighting requiring an abortion provider to be licensed or be a physican. That was a few years ago. I don't know whatever happened to the issue, though.
i meant darkly funny in that liberals that scream racism at the drop of a hat, justified or not, ignore the racial aspect of birth control.
i posted on another blog that the renewal of overseas funding was Juggy's immigration overhaul: just get rid of potential immigrants before hand......
/yeah, i'm a cynical and very dark person.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:39:04am |
re: #244 logboy
Oh! I'm glad you liked it- I never saw you respond, so I didn't know.
I know you and I have butted heads a few times, but I do hope you know I respect you for your service and sacrifice.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:40:00am |
re: #242 logboy
He died instantly. Range control were in serious trouble, but range procedures were changed for the better. My buddy is still a little messed up, although I'm pretty sure the time we spent in Iraq has glossed over the experience.
that's what i was afraid of............. and that's a helluva cure.
my best to both of you.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:41:05am |
re: #245 gmsc
What does it look like when professional and amateur magicians get together on a forum and discuss global warming?
It's threads like these on other forums that make even the trolliest thread on LGF bearable!
I say Obama makes a special isolated government outpost in Antarctica. Al Gore himself must stay there year round during the next four years to give us up to the minute updates on global warming.
Then after they drop him off we sever all contact and leave his stupid hypocritical ass down there.
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:41:29am |
re: #230 redc1c4
GMTA, but they told me it wouldn't w*rk......
Heh, you got priority, Red. Maybe we could could backstop him with Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donuts?
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:43:06am |
re: #251 logboy
I say Obama makes a special isolated government outpost in Antarctica. Al Gore himself must stay there year round during the next four years to give us up to the minute updates on global warming.
Then after they drop him off we sever all contact and leave his stupid hypocritical ass down there.
that's cruelty to penguins.... i say we put him in with the Gitmo monsters, wherever they wind up.....
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:43:34am |
An old but still ruggedly handsome Sergeant Major found himself at a gala event hosted by a local liberal arts college.
There was no shortage of extremely young, idealistic ladies in attendance, one of whom approached the Sergeant Major for conversation.
"Excuse me, Sergeant Major, but you seem to be a very serious man. Is something bothering you?"
"Negative, ma'am. Just serious by nature."
The young lady looked at his awards and decorations and said, "It looks like you have seen a lot of action."
"Yes, ma'am, a lot of action."
The young lady, tiring of trying to start up a conversation, said, "You know, you should lighten up a little. Relax and enjoy yourself."
The Sergeant Major just stared at her in his serious manner. Finally, the young lady said, "You know, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but when is the last time you had sex?"
"1955, ma'am."
"Well, there you are. You really need to chill out and quit taking everything so seriously!? I mean, no sex since 1955!?"
Feeling charitable and a little bit drunk, she took his hand and led him to a private room where she proceeded to "relax" him several times.
Afterwards, panting for breath, she leaned against his bare chest and said, "Wow, you sure didn't forget much since 1955!"
The Sergeant Major, glancing at his watch, said in his matter-of-fact voice, "I hope not, it's only 2130 now."
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:44:41am |
re: #253 redc1c4
that's cruelty to penguins.... i say we put him in with the Gitmo monsters, wherever they wind up.....
No, because when he freezes to death then the polar bears will have something to eat. Even in death he will be giving back to nature. Its a win-win situation for Al Gore.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:45:00am |
re: #252 Alberta Oil Peon
Heh, you got priority, Red. Maybe we could could backstop him with Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donuts?
i don't wanna see Rosie's doughnut......
we could drop WAB in the caldera: she'd likely scare the eruption back into the earth......... she sure as hell cools MY magma. %-)
/white smoke
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:46:44am |
re: #255 logboy
No, because when he freezes to death then the polar bears will have something to eat. Even in death he will be giving back to nature. Its a win-win situation for Al Gore.
no polar bears in Antarctica...... but we could throw him in the water to the leopard seals......
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Outrider Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:46:50am |
re: #255 logboy
No, because when he freezes to death then the polar bears will have something to eat. Even in death he will be giving back to nature. Its a win-win situation for Al Gore.
they got polar bears at Antarctica? ;-)>
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slokat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:48:08am |
Rosie cools my magma
...definitely one phrase that I couldn't have predicted seeing tonight.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:49:29am |
OK, plan B. We leave his frozen, lifeless body down there as a monument to the myth of global warming.
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FamHistoryGuy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:49:38am |
re: #258 redc1c4
What did the seals do that bad to you?
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:49:40am |
Update on Pledge of Allegiance Becomes Pledge to Obama:
Update Jan 29th: The teachers at the school today talked to the children about flag etiquette and the meaning of the flag and why the pledge is made. The lights were left on in the room, so the flag could be clearly seen and the children were told that they should face towards and look at the flag. The parent spoke to the Principal and the child's teacher. The Principal said they would not show the image of the president at the same time as the pledge tomorrow. The Principal apologized for causing offense. The parent and Principal and teacher left on good terms.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:50:58am |
re: #263 Outrider
I thought the unicorns had run them off?
no: they ran off with the unicorns and had lots of little baby manyaks, the start of a whole new evolved species.
/mocking both of tonight trolls
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:51:27am |
re: #269 redc1c4
no: they ran off with the unicorns and had lots of little baby manyaks, the start of a whole new evolved species.
/mocking both of tonight trolls
Manyakicorns?
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:51:34am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:52:07am |
re: #265 logboy
OK, plan B. We leave his frozen, lifeless body down there as a monument to the myth of global warming.
you said "Plan B"
hehehehehehehehehe.............
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:52:23am |
re: #98 chouch
I know, I'm a complete manyak for mentioning I voted for Obama and that I support Israel. Sorry if that fried your circuits.
You are no maniac, chouch,
You just seem to lack basic reasoning skills if you both voted for Obama and support Israel.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:52:58am |
re: #267 gmsc
Update on Pledge of Allegiance Becomes Pledge to Obama:
Thats it, I've had it! I'm pissing in the Obama Kool-Aid.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:53:11am |
re: #267 gmsc
Update on Pledge of Allegiance Becomes Pledge to Obama:
i like the "not at the same time" part.... which means the indoctrination will continue, just more subtly.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:53:31am |
re: #272 redc1c4
you said "Plan B"
hehehehehehehehehe.............
I knew someone was going to say that.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:53:51am |
re: #274 logboy
Thats it, I've had it! I'm pissing in the Obama Kool-Aid.
That seems somewhat redundant.
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Karridine Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:54:09am |
re: #269 redc1c4
Red, I missed one of the trolls... there was Chutch the Brainless, and ?
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slokat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:54:17am |
re: #269 redc1c4
Hhmmm, you created a new troll definition - mocking troll: repeats everything it's ever heard at random.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:54:31am |
The inventor of the Harley-Davidson motorcycle, Arthur Davidson, died and went to heaven. At the gates, St. Peter told Arthur, "Since you've been such a good man and your motorcycles have changed the world, your reward is that you can hang out with anyone you want to in heaven."
Arthur thought about it for a minute and then said, "I want to hang out With God." St. Peter took Arthur to the Throne Room, and introduced him to God
God recognized Arthur and commented, "Okay, so you were the one who invented the Harley-Davidson motorcycle?"
Arthur said, "Yeah, that's me...."
God commented: "Well, what's the big deal in inventing something that's pretty unstable makes noise and pollution and can't run without a road?"
Arthur was apparently embarrassed, but finally spoke, "Excuse me, but aren't you the inventor of woman?"
God said, "Ah, yes."
"Well," said Arthur, "professional to professional, you have some major design flaws in your invention:
1. There's too much inconsistency in the front-end protrusion.
2. It chatters constantly at high speeds.
3. Most rear ends are too soft and wobble too much.
4. The intake is placed way too close to the exhaust.
5. The maintenance costs are outrageous! !
"Hmmmmm, you may have some good points there," replied God, "hold on."
God went to his Celestial supercomputer, typed in a few words and waited for the results. The computer printed out a slip of paper and God read it.
"Well, it may be true that my invention is flawed," God said to Arthur, "but according to these numbers, more men are riding my invention than yours."
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:54:32am |
re: #274 logboy
Thats it, I've had it! I'm pissing in the Obama Kool-Aid.
when it's ready, i'll add the diarrhea ice cubes and stir it with the latrine mop.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:54:40am |
re: #275 redc1c4
i like the "not at the same time" part.... which means the indoctrination will continue, just more subtly.
...or that there will be 2 pledges a day - one to the flag, and one to 0bama. Although they won't be at the same time, so who could that hurt?
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:54:48am |
Seriously;
How do the brits put up with this shit?
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
Stranded polar bear and her cub on the Thames....
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:55:41am |
re: #278 Karridine
Red, I missed one of the trolls... there was Chutch the Brainless, and ?
fuckwit the forgotten on the ID thread just below...... can't miss him towards the end.
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:56:28am |
re: #281 redc1c4
when it's ready, i'll add the diarrhea ice cubes and stir it with the latrine mop.
We'll add a couple urinal cakes for freshness.
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Outrider Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:57:26am |
re: #267 gmsc
Update on Pledge of Allegiance Becomes Pledge to Obama:
scary stuff. These teachers are molding minds.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:57:30am |
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:57:48am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:58:07am |
International Terror Threat Levels
The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have recently raised their security level from 'Miffed' to 'Peeved'. Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to 'Irritated' or even 'A Bit Cross'. Londoners have not been 'A Bit Cross' since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out.
Terrorists have been re-categorized from 'Tiresome' to a 'Bloody Nuisance.' The last time the British issued a 'Bloody Nuisance' warning level was during the great fire of 1666.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from 'Run' to 'Hide.' The only two higher levels in France are 'Surrender' and 'Collaborate.' The rise was precipitated by a recent fire, which destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.
It's not only the English and French that are on a heightened level of alert. Italy has increased the alert level from 'Shout Loudly and Excitedly' to 'Elaborate Military Posturing.' Two more levels remain: 'Ineffective Combat Operations' and 'Change Sides'.
The Germans also increased their alert state from 'Disdainful Arrogance' to 'Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs'. They also have two higher levels: 'Invade a Neighbor' and 'Lose.'
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old ones.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:58:20am |
re: #282 gmsc
...or that there will be 2 pledges a day - one to the flag, and one to 0bama. Although they won't be at the same time, so who could that hurt?
i pledge that i will wear my shorts for a week for letting Juggy eat them.
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Karridine Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:59:16am |
re: #285 redc1c4
Fuckwit the Forgotten on the ID thread just below...... can't miss him towards the end.
Got it, and THANKS! :D
Fukkwitt the Forgotten
Fukkwitt the Foreskinned
Fukknutz the Foreborne
Fukkwitz the Fowl
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 12:59:56am |
The Australian Poetry Competition had come down to two finalists; a university graduate and an old aboriginal. They were given a word, then allowed two minutes to study the word and come up with a poem that contained the word. The word they were given was ' TIMBUKTU '
First to recite his poem was the university graduate.
He stepped to the microphone and said:
Slowly across the desert sand,
Trekked a lonely caravan
Men on camels two by two
Destination - Timbuktu .
The crowd went crazy! No way could the old aboriginal top that, they thought. The old aboriginal calmly made his way to the microphone and recited;
Me and Tim a huntin' went
Met three whores in a pop up tent
They were three, and we was two
So I bucked one, and timbuktu.
The aboriginal won.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:00:07am |
re: #292 redc1c4
i pledge that i will wear my shorts for a week for letting Juggy eat them.
Did you see Jason Bateman's pledge in that ad? He promised to "only flush when dropping a duece, and not when just dropping a single."
I couldn't help but feel he was basically making fun of the rest of the celebrities, and the ad concept itself with that line.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:01:30am |
re: #283 astronmr20
Seriously;
How do the brits put up with this shit?
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
Stranded polar bear and her cub on the Thames....
"largest land carnivores"? i'd have to go look, but i'm pretty sure grizzlies are the biggest bears.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:02:42am |
At the end of the tax year, the Tax Office sent an inspector to audit the books of a synagogue.
While he was checking the books he turned to the Rabbi and said: "I notice you buy a lot of candles. What do you do with the candle drippings?" Good question," noted the Rabbi. "We save them up and send them back to the candle makers, and every now and then they send us a free box of candles."
"Oh," replied the auditor, somewhat disappointed that his unusual question had a practical answer. But on he went, in his obnoxious way. "What about all these biscuit purchases? What do you do with the crumbs?"
"Ah, yes," replied the Rabbi, realizing that the inspector was trying to trap him with an unanswerable question. "We collect them and send them back to the manufacturers, and every now and then they send a free box of holy biscuits."
"I see," replied the auditor, thinking hard about how he could fluster the know-it-all Rabbi.
"Well, Rabbi," he went on, "what do you do with all the leftover foreskins from the circumcisions you perform?"
"Here, too, we do not waste," answered the Rabbi. "What we do is save up all the foreskins and send them to the Tax Office, and about once a year they send us a complete prick ".
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:03:09am |
re: #296 gmsc
Did you see Jason Bateman's pledge in that ad? He promised to "only flush when dropping a duece, and not when just dropping a single."
I couldn't help but feel he was basically making fun of the rest of the celebrities, and the ad concept itself with that line.
there isn't enough booze in the house for me to watch that......
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songbird Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:04:44am |
re: #287 Outrider
scary stuff. These teachers are molding minds.
As a Teacher, I can say that is too true! And because so many parents abdicate on their responsibilities, we play a pseudo parental role.
At least I can say there are no teachers in my school playing the Pledge to Obama trick!
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:04:48am |
re: #297 redc1c4
"largest land carnivores"? i'd have to go look, but i'm pretty sure grizzlies are the biggest bears.
I mean.. hasn't it been completely dis-proven that "Polar bears' habitats are threatened"?
Not to mention, has someone told them the fuckers can swim?
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:06:28am |
re: #303 astronmr20
I mean.. hasn't it been completely dis-proven that "Polar bears' habitats are threatened"?
Not to mention, has someone told them the fuckers can swim?
"but if it saves even *one* polar bear, wouldn't it be worth it?"
/moonbat
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Outrider Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:07:39am |
re: #304 redc1c4
"but if it saves even *one* polar bear, wouldn't it be worth it?"
/moonbat
don't know. I'd love to have a polar bear rug though.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:09:04am |
re: #298 Sharmuta
I like Jason Bateman.
Ever see the show he did in the '80s, called It's Your Move (Link goes to all 18 episodes available online for free)?
He plays a teenage con-man who is always going up against his neighbor Norman (played by David Addison - Married With Children's "Steve").
It didn't last long, but it was a great series! If you like Jason Bateman, I think you'll enjoy this series.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:09:33am |
re: #302 songbird
As a Teacher, I can say that is too true! And because so many parents abdicate on their responsibilities, we play a pseudo parental role.
At least I can say there are no teachers in my school playing the Pledge to Obama trick!
somebody tried to start a rumor that he had ordered a change to the oath of enlistment for the military. Blackfive has the story
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:11am |
re: #301 redc1c4
i don't even know who he is........
/don't get out much.
He was the straight man on the greatest sitcom ever made and never aprreciated:
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:35am |
re: #294 Erik The Red
racist!
If a talk back radio announcer told that joke they would be likely sued or even jailed.
sad but true/
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logboy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:49am |
re: #305 Outrider
don't know. I'd love to have a polar bear rug though.
I'd mount one. Hang it on the wall next to my unicorn.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:15am |
I was happy. My girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married.
My parents helped us in every way, my friends encouraged me, and my girlfriend? She was a dream! There was only one thing bothering me, very much indeed, and that one thing was her younger sister.
My prospective sister-in-law was twenty years of age, wore tight mini skirts and low cut blouses. She would regularly bend down when near me and I got many a pleasant view of her underwear.
It had to be deliberate. She never did it when she was near anyone else.
One day little sister called and asked me to come over to check the wedding invitations. She was alone when I arrived. She whispered to me that soon I was to be married, and she had feelings and desires for me that she couldn't overcome and didn't really want to overcome.
She told me that she wanted to make love to me just once before I got married and committed my life to her sister. I was in total shock and couldn't say a word.
She said, "I'm going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want to go ahead with it just come up and get me." I was stunned. I was frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs. When she reached the top she pulled down her panties and threw them down the stairs at me.
I stood there for a moment, then turned and went straight to the front door. I opened the door and stepped out of the house. I walked straight towards my car. My future father-in-law was standing outside.
With tears in his eyes he hugged me and said, "We are very happy that you have passed our little test. We couldn't ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family.
"The moral of this story is:"
"Always keep your condoms in your car."
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:21am |
i've got the cabinet maker coming tomorrow to finish the installation of the hew wine rack, so i'd best go to bed.......
hope you enjoy tonight's fruitcup mods.
hasta y'all.............
L8r!
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:13:06am |
re: #309 Crux Australis
racist!
If a talk back radio announcer told that joke they would be likely sued or even jailed.
sad but true/
Hey Crux you watching the cricket?
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:13:14am |
re: #309 Crux Australis
Does Australia have a fairness doctorine?
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:03am |
re: #310 logboy
I'd mount one. Hang it on the wall next to my unicorn.
if you can mount a polar bear, you're not handicapped.....
at least until after the bear gets through with you. %-)
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:29am |
I guess you could say that my TV days died with Arrested Development. If the funniest fucking show to ever be on TV can't make it, then what is the point?
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:45am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:26am |
re: #317 Sharmuta
I guess you could say that my TV days died with Arrested Development. If the funniest fucking show to ever be on TV can't make it, then what is the point?
but they still show the news every night........ %-)
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:54am |
re: #317 Sharmuta
I guess you could say that my TV days died with Arrested Development. If the funniest fucking show to ever be on TV can't make it, then what is the point?
Boy do I miss that show.
Got em all on DVD.
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wiffersnapper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:17:59am |
I wonder of obama hackers use hopen source programming?
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:11am |
re: #322 wiffersnapper
I wonder of obama hackers use hopen source programming?
That shouldn't be a problem, as long as they keep their change logs updated!
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:16am |
re: #297 redc1c4
Largest Land predators should be the Kodiak bear followed closely by Polar bears which have larger standing height but lower mass, then Grizzlies.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:20am |
re: #317 Sharmuta
I was a huge 'All in the family' fan, as you know (wink).
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:50am |
Arrested Development- Tobais mis-speaks... LMAO!
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:21:11am |
re: #324 Rustler
Largest Land predators should be the Kodiak bear followed closely by Polar bears which have larger standing height but lower mass, then Grizzlies.
Simple facts like that are not important to climate moonbats when they are trying to make your kids cry.
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:21:25am |
re: #314 Fenway_Nation
Does Australia have a fairness doctrine?
The Australian Government wouldn't dare touch radio talk-back - more widespread and popular than in the US (I think?). But they are trying to go ahead with "mandatory internet filtering".
Aboriginals and Muslims are a "different kettle of fish" if you know what I mean.
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:21:51am |
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:22:28am |
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astronmr20 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:22:32am |
re: #330 Crux Australis
The Australian Government wouldn't dare touch radio talk-back - more widespread and popular than in the US (I think?). But they are trying to go ahead with "mandatory internet filtering".
Aboriginals and Muslims are a "different kettle of fish" if you know what I mean.
That is one country I sincerely hope to visit one day...
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:55am |
re: #313 Erik The Red
Hey Crux you watching the cricket?
No. I expect the same result when Australia tour SA.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:11am |
re: #328 astronmr20
And technically if you include hybrids the Liger is the largest terrestrial land predator. Due to the Growth inhibitor gene exsisting in Male tigers and female lions meaning ligers don't have the gene which tells em to stop growing once they reach physical maturity.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:16am |
A neat clip of U2, when they actually made music, if you get my drift...U2 - I will follow
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:29:49am |
re: #330 Crux Australis
Wonder why that is....I listened to some online after those beach riots a few years back and the host seemed pretty tepid and PC (probably was listening to the wrong channel).
re: #334 astronmr20
Already have, but didn't get much further afield than Sydney (kinda like a foreigner always wanting to go to the all over the USA, but not really getting too far outside New York City)
/My passport does have a Richmond stamp instead of a Kingsford Smith stamp, however.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:38am |
re: #339 Sharmuta
I had forgotten that one. They were really revolutionary in their day, sort of a synthesis of the Rolling Stones and the Blue Oyster Cult.
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:59am |
re: #340 Fenway_Nation
/My passport does have a Richmond stamp instead of a Kingsford Smith stamp, however.
As in Richmond airbase? I live not so far away from there.
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hazzyday Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:55am |
re: #130 chouch
You're too smug to be taken seriously. Everyone just rolls their eyes. No one is impressed. Despite how much you want them to be.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:11am |
re: #342 MrPaulRevere
Not often you can find a rock hymn by a mainstream rock band.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:39:27am |
re: #343 Crux Australis
Yep! I didn't spend alot of time in Richmond itself, tho'.
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:41:23am |
re: #346 Fenway_Nation
Yep! I didn't spend alot of time in Richmond itself, tho'.
Not much to see in Richmond, Didn't miss much
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:43:57am |
re: #345 Sharmuta
It was really high quality work, and they had hair too! 1981 seems like yesterday...sigh..
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:13am |
re: #347 Crux Australis
I wouldn't have complained....the novelty of being somewhere as faraway and exotic as Australia never really wore off the whole week I was there.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:47:59am |
Coming home from work on the bus, I had to get off at one point to transfer to another bus.
When I get to the bus stop, the only other person there is a woman in a tight, sexy outfit, smoking a cigarette. Anyone smoking at a bus stop is something that I find annoying, but I do my best to ignore it.
As you may have guessed by the fact that I live in Vegas and how I described the woman's outfit, this woman was quite obviously a prostitute. Less than a minute after sitting down, she looks over at me and asks, "Looking for a little company?"
I just said, "No thanks, I'm just waiting for my bus," and proceeded to get up and wait outside the bus stop. I figured, hey, this uncomfortable situation helps me get away from the cigarette, and that's all I want at the moment (besides my bus, of course).
While I was still waiting, another guy comes up, and sits right down next to her. They obviously start talking about *ahem* business (pleasure?), so I start ignoring the whole thing as best I can.
Just after what was obviously money changing hands, I hear the hooker say in a loud voice, "NOW!"
Almost instantly, 3 cop cars appear out of nowhere, and this guy is in handcuffs!
When my bus finally did arrive, it had to stop up a short distance from the bus stop, as the police cars were still there when it arrived. I just got on, and was glad to be out of there.
Clean living prevails, even in Vegas!
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:52:21am |
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:54:48am |
re: #350 gmsc
Sorry, I've never been so embarrassed in my life....but on the plus side, at least my bail was pretty low.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:55:43am |
re: #354 TheMatrix31
I thought prostitution was legal in NV?
I think that's only in the whorehouses.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:11am |
re: #354 TheMatrix31
I thought prostitution was legal in NV?
Nope, currently it's only legal in Nye County. It's about an hour drive from Vegas to Pahrump (yes, they've heard all the jokes), the closest Nye County town to Vegas.
Also, there is a bill currently before the NV state legislature to legalize prostitution in the whole state.
Nye County is fighting it tooth and nail, though. They don't have a large population, and much of the income they do get is from their legal brothels. The last thing they want is Vegas cutting in on their action.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:58:21am |
re: #355 Fenway_Nation
Sorry, I've never been so embarrassed in my life....but on the plus side, at least my bail was pretty low.
I have no doubt that this guy who did give her the money will be out of jail by tomorrow morning.
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TheMatrix31 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:59:19am |
Ah ok. Gotcha.
A couple of people that I know acquired prostitutes on our class trip to Armenia in 2004. The thought is absolutely sickening.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:00:10am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------------->
Help yourselves!
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:00:13am |
re: #355 Fenway_Nation
Sorry, I've never been so embarrassed in my life....but on the plus side, at least my bail was pretty low.
I'm still so disoriented by the experience, I just now got what you were trying to say!
Cute.
;)
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:02:17am |
re: #360 TheMatrix31
Ah ok. Gotcha.
A couple of people that I know acquired prostitutes on our class trip to Armenia in 2004. The thought is absolutely sickening.
I will say this for the Nye County prostitutes - they're probably the healthiest hookers in the world. The county laws require them to have regular check-ups, and they lose their jobs at the first sign of STDs.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:02:49am |
re: #361 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------------->
Help yourselves!
Thanks! Yum - it's helping calm my nerves after an exciting night.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:02am |
gmsc! :-)
Laced with Valium!
/white smoke ;-)
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:31am |
re: #359 gmsc
Will I he have to do one of those 'I pledge' videos for community service?
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:42am |
Sharmuta! :-)
Why DID you choose that nik anyway?
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:05:38am |
re: #366 littleoldlady
gmsc! :-)
Laced with Valium!
/white smoke ;-)
Hey - it' still probably better than what re: red and logboy were putting in the 0bama Kool-Aid earlier.
;)
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:17am |
So, Archie- you don't like any of U2's older stuff? I do, here and there.
I was at a karaoke night in a local pub, when in walks my student teacher from HS choir. Well, I got up and did this song with him watching and he and his wife loved it.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:38am |
re: #367 Fenway_Nation
Will
Ihe have to do one of those 'I pledge' videos for community service?
Probably not - or, if he is, he can appeal the decision based on his protection against cruel and unusual punishment.
;)
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:07:30am |
re: #368 littleoldlady
Because- that's what the islamists would call a vocal, forceful woman like myself.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:09:51am |
re: #373 Sharmuta
I figure that's probably what they'd call ANY woman.
/which is possible [possible!] exception of their own mothers.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:12am |
re: #361 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------------->
Help yourselves!
Morning lol. Thank you.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:57am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:32am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:13:15am |
Buffalo Theory.
In one episode of 'Cheers', Cliff is seated at the bar describing the Buffalo Theory to his buddy, Norm.
(I don't think I've ever heard the concept explained any better than this....)
"Well you see, Norm, it's like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo.
And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first.
This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general
speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells.
Now, as we know, excssive intake of alcohol kills brain cells.
But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest braincells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine.
And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:09am |
An 80-year-old man is having his annual checkup.
The doctor asks him how he's feeling. "I've never been better!" he replies. "I've got an 18-year-old bride who's pregnant and having my child! What do you think about that?"
The doctor considers this for a moment, then says, "Well, let me tell you a story. I know a guy who's an avid hunter. He never misses a season. But one day he's in a bit of a hurry and he accidentally grabs his umbrella instead of his gun.
"So he's in the woods and suddenly a grizzly bear appears in front of him! He raises up his umbrella, points it at the bear, and squeezes the handle. The bear drops dead in front of him, suffering from a bullet wound in his its chest."
"That's impossible! Someone else must have shot that bear," the man said.
"Exactly," replies the Doc.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:16:27am |
re: #380 Erik The Red
Buffalo Theory.
In one episode of 'Cheers' . . .
My favorite episodes of Cheers were the ones with "Harry The Hat":
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freetoken Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:16:28am |
re: #361 littleoldlady
Oohh.... nourishment for my weary body...
And for the weary soul... here is some meditation:
(the images are made by passing polarized light through ice)
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TheMatrix31 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:16:46am |
re: #380 Erik The Red
Buffalo Theory.
In one episode of 'Cheers', Cliff is seated at the bar describing the Buffalo Theory to his buddy, Norm.
(I don't think I've ever heard the concept explained any better than this....)"Well you see, Norm, it's like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo.
And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first.
This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general
speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells.
Now, as we know, excssive intake of alcohol kills brain cells.
But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest braincells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine.And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
Gotta throw in some of those "ehhh"s that Cliffy's famous for.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:17:44am |
Top 10 Historical uses of the 'F' word...
1 - "Scattered f___ing showers, my ass!" - Noah, 4314 BC
2 - "How the f___ did you work that out?" - Pythagoras, 126 BC
3 - "You want THAT on the f___ing ceiling?" - Michelangelo, 1566
4 - "Where did all those f___ing Indians come from?" - Custer,1877
5 - "It does so f___ing look like her!" - Picasso, 1926
6 - "Where the f___ are we?" - Amelia Earhart, 1937
7 - "Any f___ing idiot could understand that." - Einstein, 1938
8 - "What the f___ was that?" - Mayor Of Hiroshima, 1945
9 - "I need this parade like I need a f___ing hole in the head!" - JFK,1963
10 - "Aw c'mon. Who the f___ is going to find out?" - Bill Clinton,1997
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:45am |
A man was handing down the family business to his son.
"Now Jim," the father said, "just watch as I deal with this customer."
A man entered the shop and asked for a packet of grass seeds.
The father handed them to him and asked if he wanted a lawn mower, to which the man replied, "Why would I need one of those?"
"Oh," the father said "these grass seeds grow really fast."
The man accepted the deal and left $80 worse off.
The son of the shop keeper took over at the counter, when another customer
walked in.
"Could I possibly have a packet of Tampax please." he requested.
"Certainly Sir," the young boy said "and will you want a lawn mover with
that?"
The stunned man retorted, "Why?"
"Well sir," the boy said, "You'll be doing fuck all else this weekend, you
might as well cut the grass."
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:20:08am |
re: #371 Sharmuta
Well, I just thought U2 did better with rough and tumble rock 'n roll tunes as opposed to ballads like 'bad'. They seemed to lose their edge, IMO.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:22:36am |
re: #385 Erik The Red
Note to self. Read the whole joke before posting. Sorry about # 9. Report if anyone thinks it needs to be.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:09am |
re: #380 Erik The Red
I wouldn't mind knocking back a few beers with the real-life Cliff; another uprooted New Englander who has his own show on the Travel Channel called Made in America that tours different factories (including the Yankee Candle facility in my hometown as well as the Sam Adams brewery, the Sturm-Ruger factory in New Hampshire and GE's locomotive manufacturing plant in Erie, PA). Also has been in pretty much every Pixar movie ever made....
Not exactly A-List materiel being chased down by the paparazzi, but it's clear he has a soft spot for blue collar folks and our servicemen and women....
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:09am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:46am |
Baby Bear goes downstairs and sits in his small chair at the table, he looks into his small bowl.
It is empty.
"Who's been eating my porridge?!" he squeaks.
Papa Bear arrives at the big table and sits in his big chair.
He looks into his big bowl, and it is also empty.
"Who's been eating my Porridge?!" he roars.
Momma Bear puts her head through the serving hatch from the kitchen and yells, "For goodness ake, how many times do we have to go through this with you idiots?
It was Momma Bear who got up first, it was Momma Bear who woke everyone in the house, it was Momma Bear who made the coffee,it was Momma Bear who unloaded the dishwasher from last night, and put everything away, it was Momma Bear who went out in the cold early morning air to fetch the newspaper, it was Momma Bear who set the damn table, it was Momma Bear who put the friggin cat out,cleaned the litter box,and filled the cat's water and food dish, and, now that you've decided to drag your sorry bear-asses downstairs, and grace Momma Bear's kitchen with your grumpy presence, listen good, cause I'm only going to say this one more time.
I HAVEN'T MADE THE F*****G PORRIDGE YET !"
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:25:19am |
re: #373 Sharmuta
Because- that's what the islamists would call a vocal, forceful woman like myself.
Not to brag or anything, but I caught the ironic sarcasm right off the bat.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:26:15am |
re: #387 MrPaulRevere
Well, I just thought U2 did better with rough and tumble rock 'n roll tunes as opposed to ballads like 'bad'. They seemed to lose their edge, IMO.
You know who really lost his edge- Sting.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:26:56am |
re: #390 Fenway_Nation
I wouldn't mind knocking back a few beers with the real-life Cliff; another uprooted New Englander who has his own show on the Travel Channel called Made in America that tours different factories (including the Yankee Candle facility in my hometown as well as the Sam Adams brewery, the Sturm-Ruger factory in New Hampshire and GE's locomotive manufacturing plant in Erie, PA). Also has been in pretty much every Pixar movie ever made....
Not exactly A-List materiel being chased down by the paparazzi, but it's clear he has a soft spot for blue collar folks and our servicemen and women....
Never seen it. We get the Travel Channel here. Never watch it but will look out for it.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:57am |
Once upon a time.
Once upon a time, a perfect man and a perfect woman met.
After a perfect courtship, they had a perfect wedding.
Their life together was, of course, perfect.
One snowy, stormy Christmas Eve, this perfect couple was driving their perfect car along a winding road, when they noticed someone at the side of the road in distress.
Being the perfect couple, they stopped to help.
There stood Santa Claus with a huge bundle of toys.
Not wanting to disappoint any children on the eve of Christmas, the perfect couple loaded Santa and his toys into their vehicle.
Soon they were driving along delivering the toys.
Unfortunately, the driving conditions deteriorated and the perfect couple and Santa Claus had an accident.
Only one of them survived the accident.
Question: Who was the survivor?
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:58am |
I hope the fruitcup is laced with sugar littleoldlady, its been a long week.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:47am |
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:51am |
Rough and tumble rock songs- like Bullet the Blue Sky, Archie?
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:31:01am |
Answer: The perfect woman survived.
She's the only one who really existed in the first place.
Everyone knows there is no Santa Claus and there is no such thing as a perfect man.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:31:19am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:01am |
MrPaulRevere! :-)
Sugar?! Sugar?! red's been here. Sugar is the least of your problems...
;-)
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:38:34am |
re: #394 Sharmuta
I'm a realist, I know these bands are under tremendous pressure to produce 'something' once they are under contract. The Police did great work at one time. Sting I think got caught up in the Martha Stewart/Hamptons lifestyle.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:43:44am |
re: #399 Sharmuta
You have a good ear, that qualifies. Definitely.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:50am |
A young man moved into a new apartment on his own, and went to the lobby to
put his name on his mailbox.
While there, an attractive young lady came out of the apartment next to the mailboxes wearing a robe.
The young man smiled at the young woman and she started a conversation with him.
As they talked, her robe slipped open, and it was obvious that she had nothing else on.
The poor kid broke into a sweat trying to maintain eye contact.
After a few minutes, she placed her hand on his arm and said, "Let's go to my apartment, I hear someone coming."
He followed her into her apartment; she closed the door and leaned against it, allowing her robe to fall off completely.
Now nude, she purred at him, "What would you say is my best feature?" Flustered and embarrassed, he finally squeaked,"It's got to be your ears!"
Astounded, and a little hurt she asked, "My ears?
Look at these breasts; they are full and 100% natural!
I work out every day!
My butt is firm and solid! Look at my skin -- no blemishes anywhere!
How can you think that the best part of my body is my ears?"
Clearing his throat, he stammered, "Outside, when you said you heard someone coming?
That was me."
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:47:56am |
This is for Blue.
Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South, to avoid a collision.
Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the North, to avoid a collision
Canadians: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
Canadians: Negative. I say again, You will have to divert your course.
Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER US LINCOLN. THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, I SAY AGAIN, THAT'S 15 DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFTY OF THIS SHIP.
Canadians: We are a lighthouse. Your call.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:49:37am |
A little boy came down to breakfast
Since he lived on a farm, his mother asked if he had done his chores..
. "Not yet," said the little boy.
His mother tells him he can't have any breakfast until he does his chores.
Well, he's a little pissed, so he goes to feed the chickens, and he kicks a
chicken.
He goes to feed the cows, and he kicks a cow. He goes to feed the
pigs, and he kicks a pig.
He goes back in for breakfast and his mother gives him a bowl of dry cereal.
"How come I don't get any eggs and bacon? Why don't I have any milk in my
cereal?" he asks.
"Well," his mother says, "I saw you kick a chicken, so you
don't get any eggs.
I saw you kick the pig, so you don't get any bacon,
either.
I also saw you kick the cow, so you aren't getting any milk this
morning."
Just about then, his father comes down for breakfast, and he kicks the cat
as he's walking into the kitchen.
The little boy looks up at his mother with
a smile, and says,
"Are you going to tell him, or should I?"
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:51:30am |
Q: When is a door not a door?
A: When Teleprompter Jesus President 0bama walks right into a door-sized pane of glass....
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:52:58am |
A mother was working in the kitchen, listening to her five-year-
old son playing with his new electric train set in the living room. She
heard the train stop & her son saying " All you bastards who want off,
get the hell of now, 'cause this is the last stop! And all you bastards
who are getting on, get your ass in the train, cause were going down the tracks"
The horrified mother went in & told her son, "We don't use that
kind of language in this house. Now I want you to go to your room & stay
there for TWO HOURS. When you come out, you may play with your train,
but I want you to use nice language."
Two hours later the son came out of the bedroom & resumed playing
with his train. Soon the train stopped a & the mother heard her son say,
"All passengers who are disembarking the train, please remember to
take all of your belongings with you. We thank you for travelling with us
today & hope your trip was a pleasant one." She hears the little boy
continue, "For those of you just boarding, we ask you to stow all of
your hand luggage under your seat. Remember, there is no smoking on
the train. We hope you have a pleasant and relaxing journey with us today."
As the mother began to smile, the child added, "For those of you
who are pissed off about the TWO HOUR delay, please see the fat bitch in the kitchen."
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:31am |
I have to scoot. Think good thoughts for anyone that loves liberty!
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akak Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:08:50am |
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jim in virginia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:10:10am |
Good mornign all! Is this the kinder, gentler, non-offensive LGF?
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:11:31am |
re: #417 jim in virginia
Good mornign all! Is this the kinder, gentler, non-offensive LGF?
Morning Jiv. Comedy Central.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:12:38am |
{My Rove}! :-)
All "pieces of work" have been directed elsewhere.
;-)
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:13:36am |
re: #417 jim in virginia
Good mornign all! Is this the kinder, gentler, non-offensive LGF?
Striving to not denigrate.
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jim in virginia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:15:45am |
Yesterday mrninig was like watching a train wreck. You want to look away but you just can't.
Sharmuta, you are a saint.
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:25:25am |
North Kore has cancelled its non aggression pat with the South.
Because, umm, Bambi and Hilary aren't paying any attention to it?
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akak Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:26:01am |
Hamas frogmen using fishing boats to keep them connected. They believe the converted ship is the first link in a protective belt the Iranians are throwing around the Hamas leadership in Gaza.Last week, Tehran asked Cairo for permission to fly a group of 20 journalists and photographers to Cairo on their way to the Gaza Strip to report on the situation there. Our sources report that five members of the group were bone fides press people, the rest Iranian undercover agents for attachment to Hamas' Gaza command. Cairo withheld permission.
[Link: www.debka.com...]
lemme push the button please!
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:27:39am |
Hillary Clinton might well be what Samantha Power described her as; and Power ought to know. Barack Obama for his part, has managed to out Hillary Hillary and out Power Power. They deserve each other. The only question is whether the voters deserve them.
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:32:03am |
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NYCHardhat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:33:00am |
Students forced to pledge allegiance to Obama.
For Goddessoftheclassroom
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:33:03am |
re: #423 Jim in Virginia
Fabulous. Betcha South Korea (who has complained of "heavy handed" US tactics against the Norks because, "You know, they're not such bad guys...") will come running to Obambi who will tell them, "You're going to have to engage in strong diplomacy [puffs on cigarette]. You're going to have to sit down and talk to them." [puff, puff].
/the Magic Dragon
How many of our troops have we there?
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akak Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:35:11am |
Moderate "not all Muslims are terrorists" all over the world celebrate Peres Erdogan!
shockare: #431 littleoldlady
Fabulous. Betcha South Korea (who has complained of "heavy handed" US tactics against the Norks because, "You know, they're not such bad guys...") will come running to Obambi who will tell them, "You're going to have to engage in strong diplomacy [puffs on cigarette]. You're going to have to sit down and talk to them." [puff, puff].
/the Magic Dragon
How many of our troops have we there?
not enough!
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NYCHardhat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:35:52am |
re: #430 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning, Lizards!
Good morning goddess.
#429 should fire you up this morning.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:35:57am |
re: #429 NYCHardhat
Students forced to pledge allegiance to Obama.
For Goddessoftheclassroom
That is so fucked up. I hope they come down hard on the school and teachers.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:36:14am |
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akak Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:39:55am |
re: #436 Erik The Red
That is so fucked up. I hope they come down hard on the school and teachers.
If that were my kids the school would be hearing from a very angry dad today.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:43:11am |
re: #435 NYCHardhat
Good morning goddess.
#429 should fire you up this morning.
Oh. My. God.
I do not worship images. I readily pledge my allegiance to my country via SYMBOL.
I would be in that room so fast the projector bulb would explode.
Most people don't realize that they have every right to observe public school classes with prior notice.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:43:32am |
re: #436 Erik The Red
That is so fucked up. I hope they come down hard on the school and teachers.
What have we done? I feel like I'm behind enemy lines.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:43:56am |
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:44:36am |
re: #431 littleoldlady Only enough troops currently in korea basically to provide for american outrage if the Norks move on the south over us. Think its somewhere in the 10000 range.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:46:48am |
re: #442 Rustler
Only enough troops currently in korea basically to provide for american outrage if the Norks move on the south over us. Think its somewhere in the 10000 range.
Don't worry 44 and Shillary will set down and a have a "Smart" talk with the Norks and all we go away.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:56:25am |
re: #429 NYCHardhat
Students forced to pledge allegiance to Obama.
For Goddessoftheclassroom
Good Morning Lizards!
Just a drive by here. I had to comment on this horrific story. How long before images of Obama are as commonplace in our cities and towns as those of Lenin are in Russia? This is very disturbing, and the people involved should be disciplined. Stand up for your rights, and for your children's rights.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:58:28am |
re: #446 Ford_Prefect
What about the Obama youth button lower on the page with the Islamic cresent moon with 3 people instead of stars within the crescent. Or even the connotations that are brought to mind when an Obama Youth Corps is brought up.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:02:38am |
I'm sorry I have greeted each of you, but it's a hectic morning. Take care, all!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:03:21am |
re: #439 goddessoftheclassroom
Have we seen any other confirmation of the story? Heard about it yesterday, looking for another source.
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:06:03am |
re: #447 Rustler
Morning all.
This came up yesterday (late morning, early afternoon) and most felt that it should fall under the 48 hr rules as there is nothing to substantiate it.
As far as the button goes. I wouldn't really worry all that much about it. If you go to the web site printed on it, you will notice that it hasn't had anything done too it since it was put up on 3-17-08. The only button that works is the home button. It appears to have been abandoned.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:06:56am |
re: #450 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not sure if this is the same source as yesterday's.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:12:19am |
re: #429 NYCHardhat
This doesn't surprise me. I fear this is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't think there is one conservative teacher in my kids school.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:12:50am |
re: #452 Rustler
I have seen it three places, but no "independent" source. Just three copies on three blogs. I'm not doubting the story, but a 48 hour "smell" rule was suggested, and I agree.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:12:59am |
Okay, I'm sufficiently depressed to start my day...
/verybigsigh
Good day, ALL!™
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:17:42am |
re: #452 Rustler
Yep, that is the same story from yesterday and it still has the same problems. It cites an unidentified Elementary School in Clark County, and the individuals (Father, Teacher, Vice Principle and Principle) mentioned in the story are not named. Why? This story doesn't smell right as there is no way to fact check it.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:18:18am |
re: #454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Yeah sorry I did the search thru google for news thought it was a small newspaper.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:19:19am |
Whole bunch of nonsense on the inter-tubes.
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:20:23am |
re: #446 Ford_Prefect
Good Morning Lizards!
Just a drive by here. I had to comment on this horrific story. How long before images of Obama are as commonplace in our cities and towns as those of Lenin are in Russia? This is very disturbing, and the people involved should be disciplined. Stand up for your rights, and for your children's rights.
Graffiti targets.
O's new shine is going to wear off fast.
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Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:21:30am |
re: #424 akak
[Link: www.marinetraffic.com...]
Last Position Received:
Area: Mediterranean
Latitude/Longitude: 31.36456˚ / 32.27063˚ (Map)
[Link: www.daylife.com...]
[Link: www.daylife.com...]
===
Yet another sea story.
The Iranians are still refusing an independent inspection of the "medical" cargo that's supposed to be aboard the MV Iran Shahed. They had already refused boarding permission to the IDF patrol boat that first met them.
There are currently at least two Iranian (either flagged or owned) ships wandering around off the coast of Gaza, outside of the IDF patrols.
SO
FAR,
R
| 461 |
Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:21:53am |
Now for some good news. We have 11 new hatchlings to welcome into the world.
It took about 110 years and some delicate surgery on his most private parts, but Henry -- a lizard-like creature from New Zealand -- is now a dad.
And it's now time to call it a day and finish getting ready for work.
Mondays suck
L8R
| 462 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:21:53am |
Erdogan gets hero's welcome in Istanbul
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Besides being a bunch of Anti-Semites, lets not forget they fucked us in Gulf War 2 also.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:22:27am |
re: #460 Render
[Link: www.marinetraffic.com...]
Last Position Received:
Area: Mediterranean
Latitude/Longitude: 31.36456˚ / 32.27063˚ (Map)[Link: members.home.nl...]
[Link: www.daylife.com...]
[Link: www.daylife.com...]
===
Yet another sea story.
The Iranians are still refusing an independent inspection of the "medical" cargo that's supposed to be aboard the MV Iran Shahed. They had already refused boarding permission to the IDF patrol boat that first met them.
There are currently at least two Iranian (either flagged or owned) ships wandering around off the coast of Gaza, outside of the IDF patrols.
SO
FAR,
R
Sink em
| 464 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:23:03am |
Four Jewish brothers left home for college, and they became successfuldoctors, and lawyers and prospered. Some years later, theychatted after having dinner together. They discussed the gifts that they wereable to give to their elderly mother who lived far away in another city.The first said, 'I had a big house built for Mama.'The second said, 'I had a hundred thousand dollar theater built in the house.'The third said, 'I had my Mercedes dealer deliver her an SL600 with a chauffeur.'The fourth said, 'Listen to this. You know how Mama lovedreading the Torah and you know she can't anymore because she can'tsee very well. I met this Rabbi who told me about a parrot that canrecite the entire Torah. It took twenty rabbis 12 years to teach him.I had to pledge to contribute$100,000 a year for twenty years to the temple, but it was worth it.Mama just has to name the chapter and verse and theparrot will recite it.. The other brothers were impressed.After the holidays Mom sent out her Thank You notes. She wrote:Milton Bubelle, The house you built is so huge. I live in onlyone room, but I have to clean the whole house. Thanks anyway.Marvin Main Shene Kinde, I am too old to travel. I stay home, I have my groceries delivered, so I never use the Mercedes...and the driver you hired is a Nazi. The thought was good. Thanks. Menachim Tataleh, You give me an expensive theater with Dolbysound, it could hold 50 people, but all my friends are dead, I've lost my hearing and I'm nearly blind. I'll never use it. Thank you for the gesture just the same. Dearest Melvin, You were the only son to have the good sense togive a little thought to your gift. The chicken was delicious. Thank you!
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:24:09am |
"Why does Barack Obama want change so bad? Because he wants every cent of it."
Q. What ever happened to Joe Biden's old wig?
A. It was chased away by a dog.Q. Why did Joe Biden get a hair transplant?
A. To hide the mark of the beast.Q. What's the difference between Obama bin Biden and Osama bin Laden?
A. With Obama bin Biden you get two for the price of one.
If John McCain is elected President of the United States then the French will immediately surrender to us. If Barack Obama is elected President then the French will immediately invade us.Here an interesting fact: If you add John McCain's age and Barack Obama's age together you'll get the number of times Obama usually says "uh" when answering a question.
The age disparity between the two candidates in the upcoming election is significant. John McCain is 71 years old. By contrast, Barack Obama is 322 years old in dog years.
Q. Why did John McCain cross the road?
A. There was an Old Town Buffet on the other side.
Q, Why did Barack Obama cross the road?
A. To help the other side.After Barack Obama claimed to have campaigned in 57 states, John McCain should have sent him the name of a good Alzheimer’s specialist.
John McCain rolled up his sleeves and went offshore in the Gulf of Mexico looking for oil for American drivers. Barack Obama responded by going to the shores of Hawaii, taking off his shirt and oiling up his torso for American soccer moms.
Barack Obama's camp claims that John McCain was cheating in their first forum appearance because he actually gave straight answers to the questions. Politicians aren't supposed to do that.
Any candidate that John McCain picks to be his vice president will necessarily be a younger candidate than he is. Any candidate Barack Obama picks to be his vice president will necessarily be better candidate than he is.
It's a hard election for conservatives this year. They'll have to hold their noses tight in order to cast a vote for John McCain. But they'll have to hold on even tighter to their wallets if Obama gets elected.
The sad fact is that if John McCain is elected President he might not last another four more years. A sadder fact is that if Barack Obama is elected President then America might not last another four more years.
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Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:27:08am |
re: #460 Render
Latitude/Longitude: 31.36456˚ / 32.27063˚
About 45 miles Northeast of Port Said and about 75 miles West of the Gaza Strip.
FORGOTTEN,
R
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:31:56am |
re: #466 Render
pat buchanan's talking up vlaams belang today over at vdare.
I know, I know- you're shocked.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:32:46am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
pat buchanan's talking up vlaams belang today over at vdare.
I know, I know- you're shocked.
He's not a member already?
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:33:17am |
Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day I went downtown and into a shop. I was only there for about 5 minutes, and when I came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. I said to him, 'Come on, man, how about giving a retired person a break'? He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. I called him a 'Nazi.' He glared at me and wrote another ticket for having worn tires. So I called him a 'doughnut eating Gestapo.' He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he wrote a third ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more I abused him the more tickets he wrote. Personally, I didn't care. I came downtown on the bus, and the car that he was putting the tickets on had a bumper sticker that said, 'Obama in '08 .' I try to have a little fun each day now that I'm retired. It's important to my health.
| 470 |
Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:33:35am |
re: #468 MandyManners
I didn't stick around that vile site long enough to really dig deeper.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:35:26am |
Obama preached to the multitude by the side of the lake.
Obama created new states from out of the void.
Obama turned whine into Kool-Aid® for his followers.
Obama came to us carried upon a donkey.
Obama triumphed over the beast, the enemy of all men.
Obama was stoned and yet he has risen.
Obama's flock has millions of sheep.
Obama will reign over us from a house with many rooms.
You must have no other candidates before Obama.
Obama will raise voters from the dead. Count on it.
| 473 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:36:42am |
Weren't the Cardinals once a baseball team?
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:37:03am |
Why will X Vote for Barack Obama
Q. Why will Jimmy Carter vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because Jimmy doesn't want to be the worst President in history.
Q. Why will Senator Hillary Clinton vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because he stole the primary election fair and square.
Q. Why will Jane Fonda vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because Ho Chi Minh is dead.
Q. Why will Ho Chi Minh vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because Ho Chi Minh is dead.
Q. Why will Jay Leno vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because he's running out of George Bush jokes.
Q. Why will David Letterman vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because he's running out of Jay Leno's George Bush jokes.
Q. Why will Britney Spears vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because she's running out of other crazy things to do.
Q. Why will Senator Ted Kennedy vote for Barack Obama?
A. Brain tumor.
Q. Will Senator Larry Craig vote for Barack Obama?
A. He'll stall first.
Q. How will Osama Bin Laden vote for Barack Obama?
A. Absentee ballot.
Q. Why will Bill Ayers vote for Barack Obama?
A. Bill thinks Obama's the bomb.
Q. Why will sharks vote for Barack Obama?
A. Professional courtesy.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:37:40am |
re: #473 MandyManners
Should still be used to be both the football and baseball cardinals played out of St Louis.
| 476 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:37:42am |
re: #470 Sharmuta
I didn't stick around that vile site long enough to really dig deeper.
Overwhelming stench?
| 477 |
Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:37:45am |
re: #474 Rustler
I see you found the 44 joke site Rustler///
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Sharmuta Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:38:09am |
re: #473 MandyManners
Weren't the Cardinals once a baseball team?
There is both a football and baseball team by that name.
| 479 |
Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:38:34am |
...And continuing the tradition of continuing sea stories...
[Link: www.rantburg.com...]
"An Iranian ship carrying aid for the people in Gaza has been forced away from Egypt after Cairo prohibited the unloading of the ship. For two weeks, the Iran Shahed carrying two-thousand tons of medical and food supplies was held 50km off the coast of Gaza by Egyptian authorities. The Iran Shahed arrived in the Lebanese capital port city of Beirut at 7:14 pm (17:14 GMT) local time, a Press TV correspondent reported on Thursday."
Targeting may be an issue.
SLAP
THE
MONITOR,
R
| 480 |
Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:39:01am |
re: #477 Erik The Red
Hell yeah Decided to deny you your shot.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:39:39am |
Good morning.
Look for the market to open on the down side again this morning. The futures are down fractionally the Nikkei was down over night but the Hang Seng was up.
The new GDP numbers will be out today and the expectation is to see the GDP shrank by about 5% in the 4th quarter.
The market gave back all of it's previous gains yesterday for several reasons:
1. profit taking by the swing traders.
2. continued bad employment and profit numbers
3. The "Bad Bank" option, so well thought of on the Street, seems to be running into some snags. The new administration is actually in long talks with certain high level Wall Street executives. Work of the progress, or lack of progress is leaking out. So, the high hopes of a workable solution to the toxic security solution on Wednesday got dashed on Thursday.
The problem boils down to this. When similar securities were sold this past fall, they went for about 22 cents on the dollar. The economy has deteriorated since then, so on a mark to market basis you could say these securities are worth about 20 cents on the dollar.
If the Gov't sets up the "Bad Bank and buys the toxic assets at that price, your banks still go broke cause of the huge write downs over what they bought the securities for.
If on the other hand, the gov't buys the securities at 50 or 60 cents on the dollar (probably much closer to the long term value os these things), it helps the banks to survive but the gov't will need to come up with about 2 trillion to do this.
Maybe the Messiah can just waive his magic wand and make it all OK.
| 483 |
Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:40:00am |
re: #480 Rustler
Hell yeah Decided to deny you your shot.
Used some of it yesterday. Not much there.
| 484 |
Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:41:15am |
re: #483 Erik The Red
Yeah tryed to dodge those you had already linked.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:41:22am |
By the way, the woman who just had 8 kids already had 6 before.
And she is a single Mom living with her parents.
Oh my.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:41:37am |
re: #482 3 wood
Your daily market updates are great 3wood thank you. But damn they are depressing atm.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:42:29am |
re: #462 Nevergiveup
Erdogan brushed past reporters outside the hall. His wife appeared upset.
"All Peres said was a lie. It was unacceptable," she said, eyes glistening.
What a Turkey.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:42:56am |
re: #485 3 wood
By the way, the woman who just had 8 kids already had 6 before.
And she is a single Mom living with her parents.
Oh my.
I have been trying to work out how I feel about this story. I must say I have a big problem with it.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:43:14am |
re: #475 Rustler
Should still be used to be both the football and baseball cardinals played out of St Louis.
I remember the Cardinals as a baseball team in St. Louis because I rooted for them when I was a kid. Then, Ted Turner bought the Atlanta Braves and promoted them heavily on WTBS. Long about then, I discovered boys and dropped the whole thing.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:43:43am |
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yochanan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:44:51am |
re: #478 Sharmuta
cardinals were first in Chicago, then St Louis and now Arizona
there is also a baseball team of the same name and logo
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:45:15am |
re: #485 3 wood
By the way, the woman who just had 8 kids already had 6 before.
And she is a single Mom living with her parents.
Oh my.
WTF? How many different fathers for all of them?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:47:43am |
Were the first six single births or a combination of single and multiples? Did she have fertility treatments for the octuplets? Will TLC dump the Goslings in favor of her?
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Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:47:44am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
Heh.
The VB link in Buchanans spittle leads to a piece from Marcus Epstein...
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"When the Vlaams Belang visited Washington, DC, they met with a number of conservatives and immigration control activists and intellectuals. I thought that some major conservative group would sponsor their speech and give them more attention than my organization, which had previously held small meetings in the backrooms of larger organizations or at bars and restaurants.
After all, these were very prominent politicians who, more than probably any other European party, were conservative in the American sense. They supported the free market, limited government, and traditional values, and opposed abortion, gay marriage, and mass immigration.
I was shocked to find no takers.
I soon found out why. Following the speech, the Anti-Defamation League issued a press release:
"U.S. Anti-Immigrant Groups Meet with Belgian Racists: The Robert A. Taft Club, a right-wing organization linked to The American Cause, founded by Patrick Buchanan in 1993, hosted a speech on February 23, 2007 by Filip Dewinter and Frank Vanhecke, leaders of the racist and xenophobic far-right Belgian party, Flemish Interest (Vlaams Belang), in Arlington, Virginia."
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The ADL? Bwahahaha.
WHEELS
WITHIN
WHEELS,
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:48:28am |
re: #493 MandyManners Think she must have been in fertility drug trials.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:48:42am |
FWIW, yesterday there was quite a bit of grim economic news. I've thought of posting some links in the spin-offs... but not sure of the interest.
Dramatically (and that is not hyperbole), new house sales plummeted in Dec 2008, setting a new low. By that is meant when one annualizes the Dec 2008 numbers (adjusted for season, etc.), the annual rate is the lowest since the government started keeping the statistics over 4 and half decades ago. The annualized rate is calculated to be 331,000 houses per year.
This would signal that the depth of the recession is very great.
Also note that the Q4 GDP is estimated to have contracted by over 5% (annualized), a figure that hasn't been seen in 26 years.
Bottom line: to deal with the current economy, there will still be much large changes coming both in government, taxes, spending, and likely international agreements.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:49:44am |
re: #485 3 wood
By the way, the woman who just had 8 kids already had 6 before.
And she is a single Mom living with her parents.
Oh my.
Something is fishy about this story. I don't think those people she is living with are her parents. No parent would put up with this kind of behavior. Perhaps this is a plural marriage household and she is the designated breeder. I 'd like to know the name of the doctor who gave her the fertility drugs.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:50:08am |
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:50:57am |
Barack Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane trip back to Washington. He turned to her and said, “Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to The Obama, “What would you like to talk about?”
“Oh, I don’t know,” said the Obama. “How about What Changes I Should Make To America?” and he smiles.
“OK,” she says. “That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?”
Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it for a second and finally says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.”
To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to change America when you don’t know shit?”
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:51:51am |
re: #500 MandyManners
I don't understand the why of it but an octuple birth without em is so unlikely as to be virtually impossible.
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Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:52:59am |
"...the designated breeder..."
Pardon me, I need to mull over that concept for a bit...
CALL
MY
HOLDS,
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:55:08am |
No pictures of the children were released, and at the mother's request doctors declined to reveal her name, any information about her family or whether she took fertility drugs before becoming pregnant, though outside experts said it is almost certain she did.
The chances of delivering eight babies naturally are "unbelievably rare," said Dr. Richard Paulson, director of the fertility program at the University of Southern California.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:56:14am |
re: #502 Rustler
I don't understand the why of it but an octuple birth without em is so unlikely as to be virtually impossible.
Call me old-fashioned but, what doctor would give a single woman fertility treatments?
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mgscheue Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:56:47am |
This is old but I just came across it: Car and Driver magazine's Csaba Csere on Obama's claim about fuel savings as a result of properly inflated tires.
Oh, and thanks for the Richard Feynman quote. One of my heroes.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:57:17am |
Ann Coulter - “I refer to him as B. Hussein Obama. He’s half white and half black, half Christian and half Muslim and half atheist. Something there for every Democrat.”
Jay Leno - “Do you know what Barack Obama’s middle name is? Hussein. Could’ve been worse. Could’ve been Kerry.”
Jay Leno - “Barack Obama said today that politics has become too gummed up by money and influence … and then he had to leave to attend a fundraiser.”
Bill Maher - “Did you see this today about Barack Obama? Genealogy research has revealed that Obama’s great-great-grandfather was born in Ireland. Oh great, now he won’t be Irish enough for people.”
Conan O’Brien - “The Reverend Jesse Jackson told CNN that he’s planning to endorse Barack Obama for president. Experts say this is a risky move for Jackson, because hardly anything rhymes with Barack Obama.”
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:57:30am |
re: #506 MandyManners
Call me old-fashioned but, what doctor would give a single woman fertility treatments?
One who drives a much nicer car than I do
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:58:30am |
re: #505 Rustler
No pictures of the children were released, and at the mother's request doctors declined to reveal her name, any information about her family or whether she took fertility drugs before becoming pregnant, though outside experts said it is almost certain she did.
The chances of delivering eight babies naturally are "unbelievably rare," said Dr. Richard Paulson, director of the fertility program at the University of Southern California.
I've not seen a single story that mentions the Goslings.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:00:58am |
re: #509 Nevergiveup
One who drives a much nicer car than I do
Isn't this kind of treatment address in the canon of ethics? Does the medical profession have a canon of ethics beyond the Hippocratic Oath?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:01:20am |
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:03:19am |
re: #506 MandyManners
She's not single?
She is a muslim living in a plural marrriage?
The Dr. is a muslim?
She is a breeder?
Crazy idea? Perhaps, but nothing surprises me anymore.
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Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:03:42am |
re: #496 Render
Yuck. The same Buchanan piece is being carried over on Creators Syndicate.
[Link: www.creators.com...]
I really wish they'd drop Buchanan and Alexander Cockburn. There's just no valid reason for giving racists and Jew haters a soapbox.
LETTERS
AND
EMAILS,
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:05:16am |
A man walked into a bar and ordered 6 shots of tequila, the bartender, being rather reluctant said, "C'mon man, nothing can be that bad that you need 6 shots of tequila."
All the man said is, "I just found out that my first son is gay."
"Oh geez," replied the bartender,"here ya go." and he gave him the 6 shots.
2 months later, same guy, same bar, same bartender, this time the man asks for 12 shots of tequila. Once again the bartender says, "C'mon man, nothing can be that bad that you need 12 shots of tequila."
And the man replied by stating, "I just found out my second son is gay."
"Oh man, that is pretty bad!" said the bartender feeling really sorry for the man, so he gave him his 12 shots of tequila.
3 more months went by and the same situation again, this time the man asks for 24 shots of tequila. The bartender says "Damn man, doesn't anybody in your family like women?"
The man replied, "Yeah, I just found out my daughter does."
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Tamron Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:05:29am |
re: #471 Rustler
Obama preached to the multitude by the side of the lake.
Obama created new states from out of the void.
Obama turned whine into Kool-Aid® for his followers.
Obama came to us carried upon a donkey.
Obama triumphed over the beast, the enemy of all men.
Obama was stoned and yet he has risen.
Obama's flock has millions of sheep.
Obama will reign over us from a house with many rooms.
You must have no other candidates before Obama.
Obama will raise voters from the dead. Count on it.
Question: When Obama wakes up and rolls the big stone away from the door, if he sees his shadow will there be 6 more weeks of bad weather this Winter?
.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:07:26am |
re: #514 Sheepdogess
She's not single?
She is a muslim living in a plural marrriage?
The Dr. is a muslim?
She is a breeder?Crazy idea? Perhaps, but nothing surprises me anymore.
Maybe she just likes kids.
But, 14? Is she on welfare? If so, why in the world would a doctor give her fertility treatments?
Those things aren't cheap and the state won't pay for them so I assume she paid in cash.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:07:29am |
A blind man enters a Ladies Bar by mistake. He finds his way to a barstool and orders a drink. After sitting there for a while, he yells to the bartender, "Hey, you wanna hear a blonde joke?"
The bar immediately falls absolutely quiet. In a very deep, husky voice, the woman next to him says, "Before you tell that joke, sir, I think it is just fair -given that you are blind - that you should know five things:
1 - The bartender is a blonde girl.
2 - The bouncer is a blonde girl.
3 - I'm a 6 feet tall, 220lb blonde woman with a black belt in karate.
4 - The woman sitting next to me is blonde and is a professional weight lifter.
5 - The lady to your right is a blonde and is a professional wrestler.
Now think about it seriously, Mister. Do you still wanna tell that joke? The blind man thinks for a second, shakes his head, and declares, "Nah. Not if I'm gonna have to explain it five times."
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:08:12am |
re: #518 Sheepdogess
Do muslims have ethics?
I'm speaking of doctors, and no matter the religion, they are bound by them.
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:08:53am |
Good morning Lizards. Day eleven, America held hostage.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:10:39am |
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:11:11am |
re: #517 Tamron Nah it will prove Al Gore correct with regards to Gorebull Warming.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:11:21am |
re: #506 MandyManners
Call me old-fashioned but, what doctor would give a single woman fertility treatments?
Old fashioned!
The woman's mother, Angela Suleman, told the Los Angeles Times that her daughter had indeed undergone fertility treatments and that the embryos were implanted last year. According to Sulemon, when the woman learned that she was carrying multiple babies, she opted not to reduce the number of embryos.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:13:06am |
re: #512 MandyManners Doctors Haven't been required to take the Hippocratic oath for some years now.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:13:31am |
re: #525 Spare O'Lake
Seventeen people in a three-bedroom house?!
Oh, I bet the neighbors are not happy.
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:14:01am |
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:14:07am |
Gotta' go drag The Kid into the morning. bbl
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:14:17am |
re: #527 MandyManners If someone had 14 dogs in a 3 bedroom house the SPCA would be all over it 14 kids tho is a livestyle choice.
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:14:54am |
re: #527 MandyManners
Seventeen people in a three-bedroom house?!
Oh, I bet the neighbors are not happy.
They are not. I heard one interviewed on the radio & she is most unhappy.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:16:25am |
Last update - 15:08 30/01/2009
U.S. envoy Mitchell set to return to Israel after general election
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
What are you gonna do till then, look for more steroid users?
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:16:29am |
re: #527 MandyManners
From the Picture in htat article it looks like first birth may have been sextuplets. but that may have just been a picture to visually represent the number of children.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:17:29am |
"It costs money to raise children -- to raise these kids is probably going to cost about 2-and-a-half million dollars, just to give them basics," he said. "That is not baseball lessons or piano lessons. That is food, clothing or getting to school every day -- that is a lot of money."
Hope they are rich or hit the lotto.
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:17:44am |
Good morning, lizards.
20 degrees here along the Lake Michigan shoreline with more snow in the forecast.
Happy Friday!
I need breakfast... what time does the Bloody Mary bar open?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:18:34am |
re: #534 Sharmuta
But where did the Athletics start?
/My trivia contribution for the day
Philadelphia
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:19:04am |
re: #535 Rustler
"It costs money to raise children -- to raise these kids is probably going to cost about 2-and-a-half million dollars, just to give them basics," he said. "That is not baseball lessons or piano lessons. That is food, clothing or getting to school every day -- that is a lot of money."
Hope they are rich or hit the lotto.
I'm sure we're all gonna be paying
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:20:26am |
Erdogan: My anger over Gaza directed at Israeli government, not Jews
And I bet he even has a Jewish friend?
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:24:45am |
re: #535 Rustler
"It costs money to raise children -- to raise these kids is probably going to cost about 2-and-a-half million dollars, just to give them basics," he said. "That is not baseball lessons or piano lessons. That is food, clothing or getting to school every day -- that is a lot of money."
Hope they are rich or hit the lotto.
DCFS should take a look at this. A single mother with six kids takes fertility treatments & delivers eight more? Sounds like there may be a mental issue.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:25:02am |
re: #536 Irish Rose
Good morning, lizards.
20 degrees here along the Lake Michigan shoreline with more snow in the forecast.Happy Friday!
I need breakfast... what time does the Bloody Mary bar open?
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:25:21am |
Later Lizards. Friday afternoon and I am going home early today, but not before I stop for a pint. BBL.
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:26:42am |
re: #527 MandyManners
Seventeen people in a three-bedroom house?!
Oh, I bet the neighbors are not happy.
I used to live in a trailer park (only temporarily) and 4 adults and 7 children moved into a tiny mobile home next to me. That was 3 months of hell.
A few sleepless nights as well. I complained to the trailer park management and was told they were going to be evicted after their 3 month lease. After that the mobile home remained empty for 6 months. What a relief.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:29:01am |
re: #521 MandyManners
The fertility Dr. At Kaiser Bellflower, . Read his bio.
[Link: health.kaiserpermanente.org...]
Dr. Salim Fadel Fadil, the only fertility Dr. At Kaiser Bellflower. Read his bio.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:31:43am |
Erik, you are prescient man. Just practically logged on and *poof*. Thanks love that joke.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:31:58am |
re: #540 opnion
DCFS should take a look at this. A single mother with six kids takes fertility treatments & delivers eight more? Sounds like there may be a mental issue.
You can't just take fertility treatments. She had professional help.
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Tamron Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:31:59am |
re: #512 MandyManners
Isn't this kind of treatment address in the canon of ethics? Does the medical profession have a canon of ethics beyond the Hippocratic Oath?
Practically speaking, the medical profession's so-called 'ethics' seems (regrettably) to be more aligned with that of the pharmaceutical companies, than with their own patients. The doctors trade union (AMA) seems to be quite adept at sticking up for its members, just like any other trade union. Follow the money -- it's only business.
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Erik The Red Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:32:26am |
re: #547 BlueCanuck
Erik, you are prescient man. Just practically logged on and *poof*. Thanks love that joke.
I cheated. Saw you on spy
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:35:40am |
re: #486 Erik The Red
Your daily market updates are great 3wood thank you. But damn they are depressing atm.
Thank you for the kind words.
The thing you have to ask yourself about the "Bad Bank" option is this. OK, so let's say the cost of doing that successfully is 2 trillion. What is the cost to the economy if we don't do this, the economy continues to decline as the credit market is still semi-frozen, and then the banks then fail. 2 trillion or more? That's the calculus being faced.
My guess is the gov't with dither, dither, and dither some more, and after a bunch more bad news happens in the economy, will do the "Bad Bank" option.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:36:41am |
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:37:22am |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You serious? Gah!
That's what the local news is reporting. She took fertility drugs, lives with Mom and Dad and already had 6 kids.
And of course she is on assistance.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:38:22am |
re: #493 MandyManners
WTF? How many different fathers for all of them?
Don't know, but I doubt they will be kicking in much child support.
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:39:09am |
re: #544 Sheepdogess
re: #521 MandyManners
The fertility Dr. At Kaiser Bellflower, . Read his bio.
[Link: health.kaiserpermanente.org...]
Dr. Salim Fadel Fadil, the only fertility Dr. At Kaiser Bellflower. Read his bio.
Did I hear correctly that the mothers last name is Sueliman?(sp)
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:40:00am |
re: #538 Nevergiveup
Yeah sad thing is next paragraph in the article talks about the 1400 a month a mother with 8 gets from welfare and the 2654 one with 14 gets then talks about how it isn't enough.
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:40:48am |
Gotta chime in here on the "big family" discussion.
My ex-husbands sister has fifteen children... none of them twins or multiples.
They live in a part of Texas were large families like this are still fairly common.
She served in the Navy, and she knows how to run a tight ship. The children are all beautiful... clean, nicely dressed, well fed and well cared for. She sews clothing for her kids, and homeschools all of them.
Dad works three jobs to feed everyone, pay the bills and pay the extra expenses of extracurricular activites, music lessons, band, etc. (they all play musical instruments). He's happy to do it, because his children are a blessing to him. They don't accept public assistance of any kind, and never have.
The oldest kids help the youngest, sure...but mom is always in charge. Her home is usually in a state of organized chaos, but she thrives on it. The kids are all great students, very happy and active in extracurricular activites and volunteer work out in the community - something that both of their parents encourage.
They are a big, happy, healthy family due to the hard work and love of both mom and dad, and it's an amazing thing to watch these two exemplary parents in action.
A big family? Yes.
Dysfunctional? No.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:42:14am |
re: #556 opnion
Yep suleiman I think is how the newsies spelled it but your close enough.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:45:18am |
Family: Octuplets' mother has 6 other children
WHITTIER, Calif. (AP) -- The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week has six other children and never expected to have eight more when she took fertility treatment, her mother said.
Then there's this:
Suleman's daughter gave birth to the octuplets Monday at a hospital in Bellflower but has requested that doctors keep her name confidential. Media knew little about the woman until a family acquaintance told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday that the mother is "fairly young" and lives with her parents and her six children.
Within hours, media had camped out at the family's home in Whittier, where the babies' grandfather pulled up in a minivan in the evening and briefly spoke to The Associated Press. Beside him were two children - a 7-year-old and 6-year-old - who said they were excited to have eight new siblings.
But the grandfather warned that media may have a tougher time finding the family after the babies are released from the hospital.
"We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."
The mother also has two children, ages 5 and 3, and 2-year-old twins, neighbors told the Times.
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:45:52am |
re: #559 Rustler
Yep suleiman I think is how the newsies spelled it but your close enough.
That is Muslim, isn't it? He was the Ottoman Turk warlord.
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right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:47:42am |
Funny, but not surprising, that when Republicans stand for what they believe it's 'Partisan', but when Democrats stand by their beliefs, it's reported as 'standing up for the little guy' or 'standing for their beliefs'.
Who's got the fruitcup?
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:50:14am |
re: #548 SheepdogessWhile the hospital has not revealed if the woman received fertility treatments, Sophy said that it is possible to obtain fertility drugs without a traditional doctor's prescription.
"It should be a doctor who prescribes any kind of medication, but as we know, these days through the Internet, through the mail, through other countries, anything is accessible."
Apparently you don't need a scrip to get Fertility drugs.
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:50:57am |
By the way folks, how do we know that the father of these children is not in the picture?
It's unwise to make assumptions based on prejudice.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:51:44am |
re: #564 Irish Rose
Because her and her 14 kids will be living with grandma and grandpa. 17 people in a 3 bedroom house.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:54:31am |
re: #561 opnion
Yeah Suleman ruled the Ottoman turks back in the day.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:55:01am |
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The U.S. economy contracted at a 3.8% annualized rate in the fourth quarter but the decline would have been worse except that the government counts an unwanted buildup of goods on store shelves as growth.
A clearer picture of the scope of the weakness in the fourth quarter, which excludes the inventory buildup, contracted at a 5.1% pace, the weakest in 28 years.
Even with inventories, the growth rate is the worst since 1982.
Today's report also confirms that the economy has entered new territory with a stunning record drop in headline inflation.The drop in growth in the fourth quarter was above economists expectations that growth would shrink at a 5.5% annual rate.
But the data cast a negative hue over the current quarter since output is likely to be cut aggressively.As a result, it will be a bearish report for Wall Street,
The weakness in the fourth quarter was widespread. Declines in consumer and business spending were offset by inventories and government spending. The trade sector made a small positive contribution to growth as a sharp drop in imports was larger than the decline in exports.
Translation: The economy contracted a lot in the 4th quarter, though not quite as bad as had been feared.
On the positive side, things are not as bad as the recession in the early 80's
On the negative side, we don't exactly have Ronald Reagan and his pro-growth policies in the White House this time around.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:55:33am |
re: #552 3 wood
That is a good point... but it still boils down to socializing the financial decisions (and some poor ones at that) made by a minority upon the entire citizenry.
Let's say the Gov't has to spend $2 trillion to pick up all the bad debt, etc. Two trillion divided by 300 million citizens is $6,666 per person.... yikes!
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:55:33am |
re: #564 Irish Rose
The theory a number of lizards are concidering is these aren't her parents but rather she is a second wife and the breeder in the house.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:57:42am |
re: #568 freetoken
Let's say the Gov't has to spend $2 trillion to pick up all the bad debt, etc. Two trillion divided by 300 million citizens is $6,666 per person.... yikes!
True, but there is no "no cost" option on the table.
Regardless of the path taken, this is going to be very costly to get through.
It's just a matter of which way do you think causes the least damage.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:58:55am |
re: #571 3 wood
I'd be willing to bet bad assets bank is the path of least economic hardship. But both leave a sour taste in my mouth.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:59:18am |
re: #570 freetoken
BTW did you look at the housing numbers?
Yep, inventory is up to 12.9 months back log.
But prices are still dropping (thus making the banking problem even worse) which should raise the demand for existing housing.
New construction is dead in the water.
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:59:33am |
re: #565 Rustler
Because her and her 14 kids will be living with grandma and grandpa. 17 people in a 3 bedroom house.
So?
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:59:47am |
Comeon guys quick i have 3 minutes to post number 666 so i can continue my evil streak :P
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:00:18am |
Good morning, everyone.
For anyone who missed it yesterday, cookbook update, including a preview of the cover and other information.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:01:15am |
"We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."
Yeah, I'll be he does.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:01:20am |
re: #573 Rustler
I'd be willing to bet bad assets bank is the path of least economic hardship. But both leave a sour taste in my mouth.
I agree. I think if we keep the financial system functioning we will eventually grow our way out of this. If the financial system fails, we are looking at 10 years of bad news.
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Rustler Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:01:20am |
re: #575 Irish Rose
14 kids+mom+gma+gpa=17 people daddy may contribute financially but isn't there for moral or physical support.
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right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:02:29am |
Would it help at all if banks were willing to maintain the mortgages as they initially were, instead of at the adjusted rates?
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:03:29am |
re: #569 Rustler
The theory a number of lizards are concidering is these aren't her parents but rather she is a second wife and the breeder in the house.
Until other facts come to light, if they do, it's a theory that is based largely upon prejudice.
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right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:05:07am |
I wasn't aware of the race of anyone in the family. It just bothers me because I don't think people should have the equivalent of a litter.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:05:58am |
re: #571 3 wood
It's just that the horse-pill that each of us has to swallow... too much, just too much to be comfortable.
Don't know where you are located, but here in California things are starting to look very, very awkward. Interesting side effect wrt immigration. The housing industry, which has been so important to SoCal the last 7 or 8 years, has evaporated and the need for the non-skilled and low-skilled laborer has declined. I know that I see fewer groups of Mexicans hanging around corners waiting for day-jobs.
| 587 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:08:00am |
Erdogan is now being touted as "The Conqueror of Davos".
Maybe to celebrate he will kill some more Kurdish civilians.
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jcbunga Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:08:15am |
It's Friday and I haven't heard one single "_______, you magnificent bastard!" or one single "SHOCKA!".
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:09:43am |
re: #581 right_wing2
Would it help at all if banks were willing to maintain the mortgages as they initially were, instead of at the adjusted rates?
What I am picking up on is that those confronting foreclosure would just as soon get out. It has dawned/is dawning on them that the bubble has burst & the house they bought is no longer worth it. That said, I'm not sure how these various save the mortgagor schemes being floated by the politicians are going to work.
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:10:10am |
re: #580 Rustler
14 kids+mom+gma+gpa=17 people daddy may contribute financially but isn't there for moral or physical support.
You couldn't be more wrong.
And frankly, you don't know this family. You have absolutely no business making moral judgement about their character, their relationship, or their parenting skills.
Your knee-jerk prejudices are offensive.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:11:05am |
re: #579 3 wood
My concern (among many) is how does the gov't close the barn-doors once they've opened it?
In other words, how to not repeat the Lehman mistake ( of selective salvation)? Will there be a time limit on submitting "bad" debt to the Bad-debt Bank (BDB)? What if a bank thinks a loan is fine now, only to discover in 12 months that somebody lied and all of a sudden that loan is understood to be "bad"? Will the doors to the BDB still be open in 12 months? In 24 months? In 10 years?
What is the upper limit?
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:11:38am |
re: #585 thefallingman
Another clenched fist.
Giving back GTMO to CUba would be akin to the Israelis giving those greenhouses to the Palestinians. In less than 5 years, the "Pearl of the Antilles" would be reduced to nothing more then old decrepit buildings in complete disrepair. The crystal clear waters and beautiful coral reefs would most likely be destroyed.
Don't you just love socialism/communism?
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:12:40am |
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right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:13:00am |
I just saw a link on the family which said the father's on his way back to Iraq
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
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MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:14:43am |
The New York Times has issued a correction to one of their Gaza stories:
EDITOR'S NOTE
Editors’ Note
Published: January 30, 2009
An Op-Ed article on Jan. 8, on misperceptions of Gaza, included an unverified quotation. A former Israeli Defense Forces chief of staff, Moshe Yaalon, was quoted as saying in 2002 that “the Palestinians must be made to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciousness that they are a defeated people.” This quotation, while cited widely, does not appear in the Israeli newspaper interview to which it is usually attributed. Its original source has not been found, and thus it should not have appeared in the article.
But it probably does appear in one of the many Palestinian propaganda outlets which is where the Times probably first read it and knew it was true since they are the first to accept every word that the Palestinians claim as truth.
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:14:48am |
Good morning y'all from a cold (30 degrees going up to 52 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?
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gregg Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:15:54am |
Here's the latest from Jon Markman over at MSN Money (who was warning about the financial crisis early on):
In the past 12 months, taxpayers, sovereign wealth funds and private investors have sunk $1 trillion into failing U.S. and British financial institutions, while central banks have slashed their cost of funds to nothing and their collateral standards even lower. Yet major banks continue to collapse. Why?
It's tempting to suggest that fixes so far were too late, too small and too clumsily applied. Yet new evidence suggests a much more uncomfortable answer: Perhaps the hole at the bottom of bank vaults is simply too big to fill even by governments that can mass-produce money with the press of a button. And therefore the only cure may be the most precious commodity of all, and that is time.
[Link: articles.moneycentral.msn.com...]
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:16:44am |
re: #594 right_wing2
I just saw a link on the family which said the father's on his way back to Iraq
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
Bingo.
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ThinkRight Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:16:53am |
Is it too early to pick a special prosecutor for the new Admin ?
I nominate Karl Rove
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:17:12am |
Morning realwest. Good to see that your weather is getting back to normal. We are finally experiencing seasonal norms as well here.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:17:36am |
re: #586 freetoken
re: #571 3 wood
It's just that the horse-pill that each of us has to swallow... too much, just too much to be comfortable.
Don't know where you are located, but here in California things are starting to look very, very awkward. Interesting side effect wrt immigration. The housing industry, which has been so important to SoCal the last 7 or 8 years, has evaporated and the need for the non-skilled and low-skilled laborer has declined. I know that I see fewer groups of Mexicans hanging around corners waiting for day-jobs.
I'm in central-Illinois. Our unemployment number jumped by 1 yesterday about 5 pm when a guy named Blagojevich got launched.
I've been hearing anecdotal stories about truck loads of Mexicans heading south back over the border as the jobs situation deteriorates in California.
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:18:31am |
re: #600 BlueCanuck
Good morning Blue! What, are you still enjoying some time off, or have you forsworn your normal sleep to be with us today?!
:)
It's good to see you - how are you doing?
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palarson Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:19:05am |
What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were a man, but if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?
I think Richard answered his own question. No one because their words would be meaningless. Thus the use of the word immense.
| 604 |
vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:19:39am |
re: #593 unreconstructed rebel
Yeah, don't you just love it when like minded despots make demands on America and punctuate it with a jab at Israel.So predictible.Die already old sob.
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:20:23am |
re: #601 3 wood
Good morining 3 wood - 'tis true that Blago is currently unemployed, but his schedule is full. I understand he's planning on spending at least a week to 10 days sitting in Fitz's office, having a little "chat"!
| 606 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:22:03am |
Morning everyone, I'm tempted to go down to the unemployment office in Chicago, and see if I can spot Blago, putting in for his unemployment Bennie's...:)
| 607 |
unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:22:12am |
re: #604 vagabond trader
Yeah, don't you just love it when like minded despots make demands on America and punctuate it with a jab at Israel.So predictible.Die already old sob.
My cuban buddies in south Florida think he is dracula & only a stake thru the heart will get rid of him.
| 608 |
Syrah Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:22:27am |
The weather here in the puget sound is a little earthquakey today.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:22:30am |
re: #591 freetoken
My concern (among many) is how does the gov't close the barn-doors once they've opened it?
In other words, how to not repeat the Lehman mistake ( of selective salvation)? Will there be a time limit on submitting "bad" debt to the Bad-debt Bank (BDB)? What if a bank thinks a loan is fine now, only to discover in 12 months that somebody lied and all of a sudden that loan is understood to be "bad"? Will the doors to the BDB still be open in 12 months? In 24 months? In 10 years?
What is the upper limit?
I think those questions are all good ones and reasons why the "Bad Bank" option is running into some snags.
Ultimately, you have to come up with a model, a formula that you use to process this stuff, including a time limit.
Again, to beat a dead horse, this is why I would completely dump the "mark to market" approach (which is very volatile) and go with a discounted cash flows model for valuation. It's much more stable and reliable.
But this is why the banks have been standing pat and hoarding cash. They have no reliable way of valuing these things on a day to day basis.
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right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:22:53am |
How long before Blago gets on the liberal talk/publishing circuit and blames Bush, the Jooooos, Rove and right-wing Republicans?
| 611 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:23:02am |
re: #602 realwest
It's my weekend. So I am up a little early for some reason. Enjoying my morning tea and catching up on news, weather, markets. You know, the usual morning routine.
| 612 |
jcbunga Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:23:59am |
re: #610 right_wing2
How long before Blago gets on the liberal talk/publishing circuit and blames Bush, the Jooooos, Rove and right-wing Republicans?
Heck, with the resurrection of Tom "I'm Outraged" Daschle, I expect Blago will have a cabinet post before long.
| 613 |
unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:24:43am |
re: #610 right_wing2
How long before Blago gets on the liberal talk/publishing circuit and blames Bush, the Jooooos, Rove and right-wing Republicans?
Makes you realize what whores the liberal talk/publishing circuit are, don't it? Those people have absolutely no shame.
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Wyatt Earp Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:24:53am |
re: #610 right_wing2
How long before Blago gets on the liberal talk/publishing circuit and blames Bush, the Jooooos, Rove and right-wing Republicans?
His hair is already doing shows on Air America.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:25:05am |
re: #607 unreconstructed rebel
I used to know some Cuban Jews, (yes, we made it there too)and they had quite an impressive armory, waiting for the day to take back the island.Interesting characters,proud Americans, hope they get to see a free Cuba.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:25:24am |
re: #605 realwest
Good morining 3 wood - 'tis true that Blago is currently unemployed, but his schedule is full. I understand he's planning on spending at least a week to 10 days sitting in Fitz's office, having a little "chat"!
He was on the local news last night threatening to sing long and loud about just about everybody.
If I were Blago, I would not go jogging alone for quite a while. His State provided body guards got yanked this morning.
Very strange things can happen to you in Chicago when you threaten to sing like a bird to the authorities. You get found so well that nobody else can find you for a long, long time.
| 617 |
jcbunga Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:25:35am |
re: #614 Wyatt Earp
His hair is already doing shows on
AirHair America.
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Wyatt Earp Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:26:03am |
re: #616 3 wood
He was on the local news last night threatening to sing long and loud about just about everybody.
If I were Blago, I would not go jogging alone for quite a while. His State provided body guards got yanked this morning.
Very strange things can happen to you in Chicago when you threaten to sing like a bird to the authorities. You get found so well that nobody else can find you for a long, long time.
In an unrelated note, there is a minor excavation at Soldier Field . . .
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:26:03am |
re: #614 Wyatt Earp
His hair is already doing shows on Air America.
Speaking of Air America, any news on the farce in Minnesota?
| 620 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:26:46am |
Good morning, all. Hope everybody is doing well...
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Wyatt Earp Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:27:12am |
re: #619 unreconstructed rebel
Speaking of Air America, any news on the farce in Minnesota?
I haven't heard, but I hear that the Stuart Smalley film is running on a continuous loop on MN television.
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:27:22am |
re: #615 vagabond trader
I used to know some Cuban Jews, (yes, we made it there too)and they had quite an impressive armory, waiting for the day to take back the island.Interesting characters,proud Americans, hope they get to see a free Cuba.
Me, too.
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:27:46am |
re: #594 right_wing2
I just saw a link on the family which said the father's on his way back to Iraq
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
"Designated breeder", indeed.
Some people here should be ashamed of themselves.
| 624 |
jcbunga Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:27:55am |
I was hoping Blago would get laughed at during his farewell address yesterday, and then do a Goodfella's you-think-I'm-funny-how? meltdown.
Alas, twas not to be.
| 625 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:28:06am |
re: #620 christheprofessor
Hey good morning! Long time no see.
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right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:28:59am |
I wonder who else Blago could bring down with him? The Obamessiah, perhaps?
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Wyatt Earp Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:29:12am |
re: #624 jcbunga
I was hoping Blago would get laughed at during his farewell address yesterday, and then do a Goodfella's you-think-I'm-funny-how? meltdown.
Alas, twas not to be.
Or a Robert DeNiro/Al Capone baseball bat scene.
| 629 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:29:58am |
re: #625 WriterMom
Howdy. Been pretty busy but things are beginning to slow down a bit. Hope to get more lgf time in the coming weeks...
| 630 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:31:31am |
Yesterday (I was listening to CNN so you don't have to), and there was a repeated "report" about "Obama's outrage." (Yeah, sure -- call me cynical, but I don't really believe Obama has the capacity to "get outraged" about anything -- unless of course it has a political spin to it. In other words, I suspect any "outrage" is an act, a performance, and it's designed to gain something politically.) Ok, so Obama was "outraged" and it was claimed that he was "outraged" after reading an article about CEOs bonuses. Obama then focused his attention on "bankers". (more precisely, "wall street bankers" -- does that sound familiar to anyone?) Anyway, these wall street bankers had supposedly given themselves 20 billion in bonuses, and Obami alleges that this is the "height of irresponsibility."
Then, Blitzer comes on (that's Obama's Lackey) who then started to speculate about growing public outrage. Blitzer stated: "A lot of Americans are outraged that the taxpayers are being played for suckers." (or is this being stage-managed by a complicit media?) Then, Gergen is brought on. Gergen's take? Gergen claimed that this is all a prelude (given the "public's outrage") for the "possible nationalization of banks." Yeah, all right. So now we get to the heart of the matter...and it's that Obami's wanting to nationalize American banks, and he needs an excuse to do so...(imagine a Chicago-style corrupt political machine having control over Banks -- hey, now that sounds just sooo wonderful in an Obama world....doesn't it?)
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:31:39am |
re: #540 opnion
DCFS should take a look at this. A single mother with six kids takes fertility treatments & delivers eight more? Sounds like there may be a mental issue.
Someone needs to take a look at the doctor who gave fertility treatments to a single mother with six kids.
| 632 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:32:28am |
re: #608 Syrah
Good morning Syrah! Geez, a 4.5 isn't terible (I understand) but still and all, please be careful and whatever you do, if you decide to get outta town, don't head NORTH!
;')
Seriously, I do hope you and yours are ok.
| 633 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:32:41am |
re: #543 Crux Australis
I used to live in a trailer park (only temporarily) and 4 adults and 7 children moved into a tiny mobile home next to me. That was 3 months of hell.
A few sleepless nights as well. I complained to the trailer park management and was told they were going to be evicted after their 3 month lease. After that the mobile home remained empty for 6 months. What a relief.
Were they self-supporting?
| 634 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:33:19am |
re: #620 christheprofessor
Hey, long time no see. How you doing?
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:33:51am |
re: #626 right_wing2
I wonder who else Blago could bring down with him? The Obamessiah, perhaps?
Remember Susan McDougal? Dems will go to jail to protect their own.
| 636 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:34:07am |
re: #616 3 wood
Yeah, but I understand that the Federal Marshall's Service is pretty good at protecting folks. I'm seriously predicting that Blago is gonna sing loud and long - and his wife and family will disappear, courtesy of the Marshall's service; don't forget, ole Fitz knows what goes in Chicago!
| 637 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:34:29am |
re: #549 Tamron
Practically speaking, the medical profession's so-called 'ethics' seems (regrettably) to be more aligned with that of the pharmaceutical companies, than with their own patients. The doctors trade union (AMA) seems to be quite adept at sticking up for its members, just like any other trade union. Follow the money -- it's only business.
.
Who's paying, though? Fertility treatments are not cheap. I know of no insurance company that will pay for them nor do I think that the state will pay for them.
| 638 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:35:01am |
re: #618 Wyatt Earp
Hey, howdy Wyatt! How are you doing today?
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:35:21am |
Coleman went to court, Franken went to Florida; How do you get to D.C.?
As Minnesota's U.S. Senate drama unfolds in a St. Paul courtroom, Norm Coleman has been a prominent presence while Al Franken has stayed off stage.
[Link: www.startribune.com...]
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:35:28am |
re: #626 right_wing2
I wonder who else Blago could bring down with him? The Obamessiah, perhaps?
He really seems like he want's to drop a dime on Emanuel.
This is going to get soooooooooo ugly.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:35:44am |
re: #555 3 wood
Don't know, but I doubt they will be kicking in much child support.
If they're known, the state will force them to pay.
| 642 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:36:07am |
re: #630 J.S.
Obama is sounding more and more like a classic leftist populist, like Hugo Chavez or Juan Peron.
| 643 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:36:23am |
re: #620 christheprofessor
Hey there CtP - good to see you again! Like the new avatar as well (Lightning looks very contented!).
How are you doing my friend?
| 644 |
SurferDoc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:37:13am |
Good morning, Lizards! The Circus continues and the clowns are in charge.
| 645 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:37:25am |
re: #642 Kenneth
Yes. And then he'll claim, "But I'm only doin' it cause it's what the public demands -- demands I tell ya!"
| 646 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:37:36am |
re: #558 Irish Rose
Gotta chime in here on the "big family" discussion.
My ex-husbands sister has fifteen children... none of them twins or multiples.
They live in a part of Texas were large families like this are still fairly common.
She served in the Navy, and she knows how to run a tight ship. The children are all beautiful... clean, nicely dressed, well fed and well cared for. She sews clothing for her kids, and homeschools all of them.
Dad works three jobs to feed everyone, pay the bills and pay the extra expenses of extracurricular activites, music lessons, band, etc. (they all play musical instruments). He's happy to do it, because his children are a blessing to him. They don't accept public assistance of any kind, and never have.
The oldest kids help the youngest, sure...but mom is always in charge. Her home is usually in a state of organized chaos, but she thrives on it. The kids are all great students, very happy and active in extracurricular activites and volunteer work out in the community - something that both of their parents encourage.
They are a big, happy, healthy family due to the hard work and love of both mom and dad, and it's an amazing thing to watch these two exemplary parents in action.
A big family? Yes.
Dysfunctional? No.
I have no problem with large families. But, your former SIL has done it the correct way. It doesn't sound like the mother in this situation has not.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:37:38am |
re: #558 Irish Rose
I'm all for big families. However, I don't want to pay for them. I wish I could have had a bigger family but couldn't afford it. My concern about this family is not monetary.
re: #594 right_wing2
I just saw a link on the family which said the father's on his way back to Iraq
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
Did they mention which branch of the military?
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christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:37:56am |
re: #634 Kenneth
I'm well, thanks. Been teaching an overload with a couple of new preps, which is very time-consuming, so I haven't been able to do much more than lurk and drop in the occasional comment.
Howzabout you?
| 650 |
3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:38:26am |
Here's more on the "Bad Bank" option being discussed in Washington:
U.S. Eyes Two-Part Bailout for Banks
The nation's top economic officials are discussing a new way to stabilize the financial system by buying a portion of banks' bad assets and offering guarantees against future losses on some of the remainder, in an effort to help banks while trying to mitigate the cost to taxpayers.
This approach, which merges two competing ideas, was discussed this week at a meeting that included Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair, according to people briefed on the meeting. The emerging plan comes as the administration seeks to jolt the economy with an $819 billion stimulus plan and a series of additional moves designed to stem foreclosures, overhaul financial regulation and get credit flowing again.
The latest bank-aid discussions represent one idea of several being contemplated by officials, who stressed that conversations are fluid and much could change. In addition, there have been disagreements among officials as to the best approach. Ms. Bair, for example, wanted the government to buy a larger amount of bad assets, but Treasury officials worried about the expense, according to people briefed on the matter.
The Obama administration has been working to craft what it calls a "comprehensive" approach to the financial crisis after months of ad hoc rescues. The decision on banks will be coupled with a broad program aimed to prevent foreclosures, White House aides say. Besides the stimulus bill and an overhaul of the financial regulatory system, officials are working on a plan to stabilize domestic auto makers.
They also have to amend the Community Reinvestment Act, install the "uptick rule" on short sales, and enforce the "naked" short selling rules.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:39:14am |
re: #556 opnion
Did I hear correctly that the mothers last name is Sueliman?(sp)
The ABC article spelled it "Suleman".
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:39:20am |
re: #630 J.S.
Agree. The outrage is merely to stir up the status quo with the lowest common demoninator. Laughable since he has friends who benefited handsomely from undeserved bonus' Franklin Raines, and his VP vetter, Jim Johnson, another Fannie Mae grifter come to mind.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:39:32am |
re: #631 MandyManners
Someone needs to take a look at the doctor who gave fertility treatments to a single mother with six kids.
It's like a puppy mill. She must have some desirable genetic trait.
/
| 654 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:39:34am |
re: #643 realwest
We are doing well, thanks, and you and Mom?
Going to be calling my father in a bit. Today is the anniversary of my mother's passing, and I always make it a point to phone him on it. Sometimes he mentions it, but if he doesn't, I don't bring it up...
| 655 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:40:47am |
re: #564 Irish Rose
By the way folks, how do we know that the father of these children is not in the picture?
It's unwise to make assumptions based on prejudice.
From what I've read, the father(s) is not mentioned at all. All I've read said that she lives with her parents.
| 656 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:40:57am |
US President Barack Obama is not ruling out military strikes against Iran to stop its nuclear program, the White House said Thursday.
Asked if the military option was still on the table, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said: "The president hasn't changed his viewpoint that he should preserve all his options."
Gibbs told reporters that Obama believes "we must use all elements of our national power to protect our interests as it relates to Iran," he said
Toughness or spin?
State Department spokesman Robert Wood said "nobody from the administration has tasked anyone within the White House, the State Department to draft any letter to the Iranians," adding that "there are lots of ideas that are being bandied about."
"Until that review is completed, we're not going to be able to outline how we're going to go forward with regard to engaging Iran," stressed Wood.
Until the letter is signed & in an envelope, it's not a letter. It's just an internal policy discussion.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:41:38am |
re: #645 J.S.
Yes. And then he'll claim, "But I'm only doin' it cause it's what the public demands -- demands I tell ya!"
..."and if you say otherwise I'll shut you down."
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:41:50am |
re: #569 Rustler
The theory a number of lizards are concidering is these aren't her parents but rather she is a second wife and the breeder in the house.
I don't subscribe to that theory. In fact, I've not read anything to support it.
| 660 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:41:59am |
OT: Unindicted Terrorist Co-Conspirators Plan Fancy "Human Rights" Event in Washington, DC.
I guess they never felt more comfortable in DC!
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:42:17am |
re: #636 realwest
Yeah, but I understand that the Federal Marshall's Service is pretty good at protecting folks. I'm seriously predicting that Blago is gonna sing loud and long - and his wife and family will disappear, courtesy of the Marshall's service; don't forget, ole Fitz knows what goes in Chicago!
Hi Real, heres the kicker, Fitz has a seperate investigation on Patty Blago's real estate activity with people like Tony Rezko over eight years.
Her father is Dick Mell, a very powerful Chicago alderman.
How about the Feds go to Mell & say, "We will back off of your daughter if you give up somebody big" The guy loves his daughter, think that he might cooperate?
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loup-garou Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:42:24am |
i wonder what this "judge" thinks of our president.
Egyptian judge to Christian apostate from Islam: "If I had a knife now, I would kill you"
In accordance with Muhammad's own orders: "If anyone changes his religion, kill him" (Bukhari vol. 9, bk. 84, no. 57).
Sharia Alert, and more on this story. "Egypt - Judge tells of desire to kill Christian," from Compass Direct News, January 27:
ISTANBUL, January 27 (Compass Direct News) – After her arrest at Cairo’s airport on Dec. 13 while attempting to flee anti-Christian hostilities in Egypt, convert Martha Samuel Makkar was granted bail on Saturday (Jan. 24), but not before a judge took her aside and said he would like to kill her, according to her lawyer.
Attorney Nadia Tawfiq said Judge Abdelaa Hashem questioned Makkar extensively about her Christian faith during the hearing. Makkar, charged with forging identification documents, explained her reasons for her conversion, avowing her Christian faith and repudiating the judge’s claims that converting from Islam to Christianity was impossible.
“Then he said, ‘I want to talk with Martha alone,’ so we all left the room, and he said to her, ‘Nobody changes from Muslim to Christian – you are a Muslim,’” Tawfiq said. “And she said, ‘No, I am a Christian.’ He told her, ‘If I had a knife now, I would kill you.’ [Makkar] came out crying and depressed, but at least he gave the decision to let her go free.”
Makkar, 24, had planned to escape the dangers she has faced in Egypt by travelling to Russia with her family. She says that since converting to Christianity five years ago, police and members of her extended family have threatened her incessantly, the relatives vowing to kill her.
Airport security personnel had been notified of Makkar’s plans, according to a Coptic rights group.
“They had both [her original and Christian] names and maybe a picture before she reached the airport,” said Helmy Guirguis, president of the UK Coptic Association. “They did not [arrest her] to apply the law, they did it because of hate for Muslims converting to Christianity. It is like a great occasion to go and arrest some poor lady like her in the airport.”
After her arrest, Makkar was charged with carrying forged documents and taken to El-Nozha police station. Authorities also took her husband and two children into custody. The identification that Makkar carried listed her religion as Christian and bore the name she had chosen for herself rather than her given name, Zainab Said Abdel-Aziz.
Legal conversion from Islam to Christianity by Muslim-born Egyptians, and gaining corresponding legitimate documents, is unprecedented in Egypt. Egyptian law does not provide for a means to legally change one’s religion on identification papers.
According to Tawfiq, Makkar said authorities held her in a room at the airport, hit her and denied food to her children.
“People who convert to Christianity are treated exactly like terrorists,” said Guirguis of the UK Coptic Association. “This is not official policy, it’s not on paper, it’s not the law, but it’s what happens.” [...]
Since Makkar’s arrest, she has leveled allegations of sexual abuse and demeaning behavior at police in the El-Nozha station and at personnel of the national security office in Heliopolis. Makkar said she has also suffered at the hands of fellow inmates at Al-Qanata prison, where authorities later took her.
“She has some difficulty with the other prisoners in prison,” said Tawfiq. “One of them kicked her and tried to kill her; one took the Bible and threw it on the floor, pushed her and tried to make her go back to Islam. But she is strong, she is strong.” [...]
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:42:27am |
re: #630 J.S. Hi J.S. - I put something in the spin-off links on the prior thread about Obama's Outrage - he had is new Treasury secretary ("Who, me") Timmy boy with him and a bunch of CEO's (none of whom work in the brokerage or banking fields) also condemning those outrageous bonuses [aggregating 18 Billion bucks] and someone pointed out that the most "poorly" paid of the Obama backer CEO's made over $7 million in 2007 and the wealthiest made over $28 million.
This is the Democratic Mantra: "We've got ours, so fuck you!". It's of course not new, just more flagrant than ever before.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:42:49am |
Sheesh, WriterMom is on a roll this morning!
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rw in san diego Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:42:57am |
re: #620 christheprofessor
Good morning, CTP. Good to 'see' you again. How's Lightening?
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:43:09am |
Paying bonuses on the heels of engineering a financial disaster is unconscionable. Doing it with the public's money is criminal.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:43:26am |
re: #516 Erik The Red
Guy runs into a bar...tells the bartender, "Quick! Give me 6 shots of Crown!"
Bartender pours, the guy's downing shots as fast as the bartender can pour them. Bartender says, "Why you drinking these so fast?"
Guy says, "If you had what I had, you'd shoot them fast too."
Bartender says, "What do you have?"
Guy downs the last shot, says, "Fifty cents!"
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:43:44am |
Good Morning Lizard Nation!
It's been 4 days since I had an entry for my Age of Obama list... last one was the apologia interview with Al-Arabyia.
What have I missed? I can't believe he's made it four days without locking himself out of the WH with no keyes or something.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:44:11am |
re: #655 MandyManners
From what I've read, the father(s) is not mentioned at all. All I've read said that she lives with her parents.
The father works for a military contractor and gets deployed every now and then - via Fox this morning. They said she lives with her mother - no mention of her father. I imagine she could use the help.
One of my cousins had 9 kids. She ran a disciplined house. All the kids are adults now, productive, happy and sane.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:44:16am |
re: #584 right_wing2
I wasn't aware of the race of anyone in the family. It just bothers me because I don't think people should have the equivalent of a litter.
I have no problem with large families as long as the tax-payers aren't stuck footing the bill.
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WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:44:24am |
re: #594 right_wing2
Going back to Iraq? Like to live? To be an "insurgent" to serve with the US army? What the hell?
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thefallingman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:44:43am |
re: #593 unreconstructed rebel
He's definitely not going down without a fight. What I (sort of) like about the article is it once again shows the real reason all these foreign leaders wanted Obama in the White House.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:44:44am |
re: #155 Racer X
What is a "manyak"?
Wait. Don't answer.
I would guess that chouch is an ESL speaker and "manyak" is how "maniac" is spelled in his native language.
For instance, in Russian it's маньяк, and manyak would be a perfectly reasonable way to spell it in Latin letters. (Many linguists, and the Library of Congress, would recommend man'jak instead -- but as with the choice between Koran and Qur'an, or Hannukah and Chanukah, it's more about keeping things simple and consistent for librarians and database clerks, and thus neither man'jak nor manyak nor maniak or whatever is truly "more correct.")
On the other hand, the Russian word manyak, however you want to spell it, normally has more specific implications: it's most often understood to mean "sex maniac" or "(serial) rapist," rather than simply "crazy person." So chouch presumably didn't have the Russian word in mind.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:45:03am |
re: #590 Irish Rose
You couldn't be more wrong.
And frankly, you don't know this family. You have absolutely no business making moral judgement about their character, their relationship, or their parenting skills.Your knee-jerk prejudices are offensive.
I don't see any prejudices. Am I missing something?
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rawmuse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:45:16am |
re: #596 realwest
Good morning y'all from a cold (30 degrees going up to 52 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?
I am sitting up and taking solid nourishment, thanks. Good morning from San Francisco, where the rosy fingers of dawn are.. oh, never mind.
| 677 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:45:50am |
Good morning, comrades! It's come to my attention that some of you are hoarding ammo, canned goods and cash. I don't want to be a rat, so I expect to you please turn yourselves in.
/
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christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:46:04am |
re: #665 rw in san diego
Good to e-see you as well! We are great, thanks. And you and yours?
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WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:46:10am |
re: #673 Throbert McGee
"Manyak" in Hebrew means pretty much f*cker/asshole. It does not mean 'maniac' like it does in English.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:46:30am |
re: #653 OldLineTexan
It's like a puppy mill. She must have some desirable genetic trait.
/
8 pairs of teats?
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WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:48:04am |
re: #590 Irish Rose
What is your problem? We discuss issues here all the time, make judgements and give our opinions. Why are you so sensitive about this story?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:48:21am |
re: #623 Irish Rose
"Designated breeder", indeed.
Some people here should be ashamed of themselves.
Ashamed - maybe yes, maybe no.
Was the mother married or even living common law with the father?
This is not about the morality of a woman's choice to have children.
But what gives a single woman who has already mothered six children the right to access expensive fertility drug therapy and to tie up vast amounts of other medical resources? And who is paying for all this?
Call me old fashioned, but I thought these fertility drugs were for couples who couldn't have children naturally.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:48:34am |
re: #594 right_wing2
I just saw a link on the family which said the father's on his way back to Iraq
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
The father of all 14?
I cracked up when I read "We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who only identified himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is." He obviously doesn't know how the media work. You throw down such a challenge to reporters and they WILL find out. Remember Gary Hart? Blagojevich?
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WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:48:43am |
re: #675 MandyManners
I haven't seen anything offensive. We are all just speculating because it's a WEIRD story, with WEIRD details emerging.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:49:35am |
re: #674 Iron Fist
There are similarities to Mussolini, and not just the nose in the air, chin out expression.
Peron was very influential on Argentina. He took one of the most prosperous countries in the world and screwed it up so badly it's still a basket case.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:49:59am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. If you weren't sure whether NYC had the highest tax burden in the nation, Mayor Bloomberg is about to remove all doubt. He's about to call for another increase in the sales tax, bringing the rate to 8.75% (from 8.375). Throw in tax (or he'll call it a fee) on plastic bags and I'm sure that local businesses will love that as business goes across the Hudson to New Jersey where Jersey City has an enterprise zone where sales tax is 3.5%. That's on top of reports that the City's economy shrank significantly in 4Q 2008.
Property tax rebates to help lessen the burden on homeowners would be yanked.
Combine tax hikes with a slowing economy is a recipe for disaster, and yet that is what the supposed financial guru Bloomberg is about to achieve.
Bloomberg also throws out the claim that he will chop teachers and police jobs, but that's just a threat to make sure that the tax hikes go through. There's plenty of pork in the NYC budget that isn't addressed, let alone those programs that should have been shuttered years ago but still receive funding. Tax and spend nanny staters (tax on soft drinks still being considered in the state).
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:50:38am |
re: #608 Syrah
The weather here in the puget sound is a little earthquakey today.
Greater than 7 on the Richter Scale? I wonder if this has anything to do with the increase in volcanic activity in Alaska.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:50:58am |
re: #686 Kenneth
There are similarities to Mussolini, and not just the nose in the air, chin out expression.
Peron was very influential on Argentina. He took one of the most prosperous countries in the world and screwed it up so badly it's still a basket case.
That's what happens when "the people" elect someone to loot on their behalf.
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J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:51:15am |
re: #663 realwest
Hi, realwest, how are you doing? (I'll take a look for your spin-off link)...
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:51:20am |
re: #654 christheprofessor
Mom and I are doing ok, thanks. It's good of you to remember to call your dad today - although the don't ask approach is probably best. Have you had a chance to go see him recently? How's he doing?
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:51:26am |
re: #688 lawhawk
Sounds like Bloomberg is a synonym for Obama.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:51:27am |
re: #689 christheprofessor
Ma'am. [e-bows]
I hope you are well? And that you and your dog are having a fabulous life together?
| 696 |
Lincolntf Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:51:28am |
Good morning all. Just got a call from my "boss" telling me to stand down for the day. On a Friday, even!
Yay for me!
| 697 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:51:40am |
re: #680 Kenneth
Ok, THAT was an image I didn't need at this time of day...
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:52:03am |
re: #690 MandyManners
Greater than 7 on the Richter Scale? I wonder if this has anything to do with the increase in volcanic activity in Alaska.
It's one long fault line, so the odds are yes. See if California rumbles in the next few days...
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:52:10am |
re: #642 Kenneth
Obama is sounding more and more like a classic leftist populist, like Hugo Chavez or Juan Peron.
I've said it before, he reminds me of Allende. A democratically elected radical leftist who started to dismantle Chilean society as quickly as he could.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:52:16am |
re: #690 MandyManners
Greater than 7 on the Richter Scale? I wonder if this has anything to do with the increase in volcanic activity in Alaska.
Well, I think if you dig down far enough, it's all connected. It would be interesting to see if they can put together a graphic showing how tremors go around the Pacific Rim in a loop.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:52:25am |
It was twenty forty years ago today,
Sgt. Pepper taught the band to play
They've been going in and out of style
But they're guaranteed to raise a smile.
So may I introduce to you
The act you've known for all these years,
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
| 702 |
filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:52:35am |
I just watched the video of Perez defending Israel at the Economic Forum and the rebuttal by Erdogan. The contrast is reveling with Perez clearing stating the case on behalf of Israel while Erdogan simply fumbles rhetorically. Erdogan walked off the stage not so much in protest but more like a child have a tantrum.
If you haven't watched it, skip the beginning to around the 40 min mark. It is well worth it. Perez gets a well deserved applause.
| 703 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:53:22am |
re: #693 realwest
I haven't been down since Christmas but my sister is coming in in a couple of weeks so I'll see him then...
| 704 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:53:26am |
re: #654 christheprofessor
In Jewish tradition, the one year anniversary of a death is a very significant milestone...it realeases mourners from 'official' mourning, where-if it is a close relative-the mourner abstains from going to weddings, other 'simchas' (happy events), buying new clothes and listening to music, or hosting parties. I hope this day passes for you and your father with strength and good memories.
| 705 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:53:28am |
re: #647 Sheepdogess
I'm all for big families. However, I don't want to pay for them. I wish I could have had a bigger family but couldn't afford it. My concern about this family is not monetary.
re: #594 right_wing2
Did they mention which branch of the military?
I didn't see any mention that he was in the military.
I still wanna' know who paid for the fertility treatment. If he is in the military, I don't think TriCare would pay for it.
| 706 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:54:15am |
re: #653 OldLineTexan
It's like a puppy mill. She must have some desirable genetic trait.
/
I will not compare a woman to a dog.
| 707 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:54:17am |
re: #695 vxbush
I hope you are well? And that you and your dog are having a fabulous life together?
We are enjoying life. In fact, she's giving me that "time to go to the park" look... Hope all is well with you and yours...
| 708 |
unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:54:35am |
Duty calls. Blog with you later.
| 709 |
Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:54:48am |
re: #706 MandyManners
I will not compare a woman to a dog.
Yeah the Muslims do a good enough job at that.
| 710 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:54:55am |
| 711 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:55:03am |
re: #707 christheprofessor
We are enjoying life. In fact, she's giving me that "time to go to the park" look... Hope all is well with you and yours...
If she has her leash in her mouth, I would say that is conclusive. Go forth and have fun!
| 712 |
Syrah Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:55:38am |
re: #632 realwest
Good morning Syrah! Geez, a 4.5 isn't terible (I understand) but still and all, please be careful and whatever you do, if you decide to get outta town, don't head NORTH!
;')
Seriously, I do hope you and yours are ok.
No worries.
I felt it. But it really wasn't much of an earthquake. Very short. Very brief.
The area where it was centered is pretty sparsely populated.
The North Kitsap area is mostly forests and reservation land. It might have made a few coins jingle at the casino, but that is about it.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:55:41am |
re: #702 filetandrelease
I just watched the video of Perez defending Israel at the Economic Forum and the rebuttal by Erdogan. The contrast is reveling with Perez clearing stating the case on behalf of Israel while Erdogan simply fumbles rhetorically. Erdogan walked off the stage not so much in protest but more like a child have a tantrum.
If you haven't watched it, skip the beginning to around the 40 min mark. It is well worth it. Perez gets a well deserved applause.
And Erdogan got a rousing ovation when he got back to Turkey and said his statements weren't against JEWS but against Israel? Fuck him. And I bet he said he has Jewish friends also? Bunch of raving Muslim anti-Semites.
| 714 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:56:20am |
re: #582 Irish Rose
Until other facts come to light, if they do, it's a theory that is based largely upon prejudice.
No, actually it's based on the few facts that we have.
What kind of mother with six children would take fertility drugs to have eight more?
| 715 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:56:25am |
re: #704 WriterMom
Thank you very kindly. It's 12 years now. Interestingly, I dreamt about her last night, which I rarely do (though I always wake up with a smile on my face when I do).
| 716 |
Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:56:42am |
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
But what gives a single woman who has already mothered six children the right to access expensive fertility drug therapy and to tie up vast amounts of other medical resources?
Are you kidding me?
Good freaking grief.
She has a "right" to access drug thereapy because she's an American citizen.
If she paid for it herself (and she must have, since fertility treatments are not covered by insurance) then what right do you or I or anyone else for that matter have to tell her how many children she should or should not have?
This is the United States, not China.
| 717 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:56:42am |
re: #669 wahabicorridor
The father works for a military contractor and gets deployed every now and then - via Fox this morning. They said she lives with her mother - no mention of her father. I imagine she could use the help.
One of my cousins had 9 kids. She ran a disciplined house. All the kids are adults now, productive, happy and sane.
The neighbors interviewed for one article I read this morning indicated that this is not a disciplined bunch.
| 718 |
Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:56:46am |
re: #656 Kenneth
I'll take spin, for four years.
Tough talk from a president who's navy is currently escorting Iranian ships carrying contraband weapons past Somalian pirates.
THAT'S
PLURAL,
R
| 720 |
christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:57:59am |
re: #711 vxbush
If she has her leash in her mouth, I would say that is conclusive. Go forth and have fun!
Heh. She just gets into a sitting position and gives me that pathetic, curious look...
| 721 |
filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:58:15am |
re: #713 Nevergiveup
And Erdogan got a rousing ovation when he got back to Turkey and said his statements weren't against JEWS but against Israel? Fuck him. And I bet he said he has Jewish friends also? Bunch of raving Muslim anti-Semites.
When he walked out, more than a few left with him. Can't let facts get in the way of opinion.
| 722 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:58:17am |
re: #715 christheprofessor
I believe that dreams are a gateway to get messages from people we love who have passed away. What a gift you had last night with that visit.
| 723 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:58:29am |
Gen. Petraeus Will Be Honored At Super Bowl This Weekend
| 725 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:58:54am |
Excellent Krauthammer piece today:
Outreach, Yes. Apology, No: We've Never Been Islam's Enemy
Every new president flatters himself that he, kinder and gentler, is beginning the world anew. Yet, when Barack Obama in his inaugural address reached out to Muslims by saying "to the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect," his formulation was needlessly defensive and apologetic.
Is it "new" to acknowledge Muslim interests and show respect to the Muslim world? Obama doesn't just think so, he said so again to millions in his al-Arabiya interview, insisting on the need to "restore" the "same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago."
Astonishing. In these most recent 20 years — the alleged winter of our disrespect of the Islamic world — America did not just respect Muslims, it bled for them. It engaged in five military campaigns, every one of which involved — and resulted in — the liberation of a Muslim people: Bosnia, Kosovo, Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq....
Read the whole thing:
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]
| 726 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:59:00am |
re: #661 opnion
Hey good morning opnion! I don't know much about Chicago politics frankly, but I suspect that's a possibility, but I understand that Blago has been in the belly of that beast called Chicago politics for a LONG time and he might try to make that part of a deal with Fitz - you know, we may soon need to put Emmanuel's photo on Milk Cartons again.........soon!
The corruption there is SO deep and SO wide, that I wouldn't be shocked if Fitz wasn't going after the big man himself, King Daley - and Blago could be his ticket to getting there. Jimmy DeLeo's (sp?) name was featured in Blagos whatever it was speech a few times yesterday; shot across the bow?
BTW, and h/t to 3 wood, Illinois' new motto is "Move to Illinois and our govenenors will make your license plate for you!"
| 727 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:59:01am |
re: #713 Nevergiveup
Peres has already had make-up sex with him, saying he knows it was 'nothing personal'.
| 728 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:59:04am |
re: #713 Nevergiveup
And Erdogan got a rousing ovation when he got back to Turkey and said his statements weren't against JEWS but against Israel?
What every anti-Semite loves to say. I was in an online argument yesterday with some wingnut about the same thing.
| 729 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:59:17am |
re: #685 WriterMom
I haven't seen anything offensive. We are all just speculating because it's a WEIRD story, with WEIRD details emerging.
Yes, it is weird.
| 730 |
claspur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:59:23am |
OT: If we have one right now....Just left Breitbart TV...Obama has his heat turned-up in his new house and the Oval Office. *sigh
I left a few comments on a few of the newest articles.(claspur)
Sure believe I may have came-up with a new phrase for our annointed messiah: Excile Obama back to Kenya. ;o)
| 731 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:00:07am |
re: #698 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
It's one long fault line, so the odds are yes. See if California rumbles in the next few days...
Seattle's on the same fault as the one in Alaska?
| 734 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:00:35am |
re: #728 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Bbbbut-I can't be antisemitic! Some of my best friends are Jews! And I really, really like bagels!
/
| 735 |
opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:00:45am |
Speaking of large families, a mountain couple has nine children.
The husband goes to see his dioctor to get fixed.
The doctor is curious & asks what drove him to the decision.
The man says "I heard that every tenth baby born here is Mexican & we don't speak Spanish."
| 736 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:00:49am |
re: #717 MandyManners
The neighbors interviewed for one article I read this morning indicated that this is not a disciplined bunch.
Possibly. It's also possible that some one who has never experienced a house full of kids would think most anything is undisciplined. One of my uncles had 6 kids, so maybe it's just that I'm used to being around tons of ankle biters.
| 738 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:00:55am |
re: #723 Dustyvet
Gen. Petraeus Will Be Honored At Super Bowl This Weekend
Very cool. Well deserved... he is one of the good guys.
How's it going Dusty, did the VA figure themselves out?
| 739 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:00:58am |
Want to get out of town and do something different? Looking for something to do for March break?
My dear brothers and sisters, I do not say to you merely to come to the the land of jihad. Rather, I say to you, you should be racing one another to come to the land of jihad." Another German national, "Abu Abdullah"-shown sitting amongst a group of young children brandishing automatic weapons-explained, "as you can clearly see, praise be to Allah, this has become a very family-friendly place. So, bring your wives and children. Praise be to Allah, there are living quarters here far away from the front. There are hospitals, pharmacies, doctors, and schools-schools in which our children not only learn about Islam, but also all walks of life and obedience. That is why we advise you all to join together, revive, and live the cause of jihad with your entire family."
Fun for the whole fam-damn-ily!
| 740 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:01:14am |
re: #713 Nevergiveup
Anyone want to ask Turkey whether they were dropping roses on the PKK all those years? Or how Turkey has repeatedly bombed suspected PKK camps inside Iraq (you know, a real cause of war by Iraq against Turkey if Iraq ever chose to pursue the matter). Or that just goes down the memory hole because it's Turkey and not Israel that is defending itself from terrorists who seek to carve up the country involved?
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christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:01:24am |
re: #722 WriterMom
That is a very uplifting interpretation. It certainly always makes my day when I dream about her...
Maybe she just wanted me to have a great day today!
Being here and seeing all of you folks is uplifting as well...
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:01:46am |
re: #700 vxbush
Well, I think if you dig down far enough, it's all connected. It would be interesting to see if they can put together a graphic showing how tremors go around the Pacific Rim in a loop.
There's a reason it's called the Ring of Fire. A little while ago (this month) there was a 7+ quake in the Pacific, IIRC, near Indonesia.
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rw in san diego Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:01:54am |
re: #732 realwest
I'm good, thanks. How are you and your mother? I was very happy to see CTP here today. I was thinking about e-mailing you to ask about him.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:02:03am |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:02:33am |
re: #731 MandyManners
Seattle's on the same fault as the one in Alaska?
The plate edge runs all the way around the Pacific coast. There are different plates involved at places, but the thing goes all the way around, with very active regions in many places.
Geologists call it the "ring of fire".
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:02:42am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:02:48am |
re: #727 WriterMom
Peres has already had make-up sex with him, saying he knows it was 'nothing personal'.
Yeah I heard. Peres really should go away. There is this nice retirement home in Kfar Saba I know of.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:02:48am |
re: #733 phoenixgirl
Afraid we're going to blitzed with the fuggin things until we become desensitized and no longer pay attention.
All part of the big community organizing of the USSA.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:02:52am |
re: #721 filetandrelease
When he walked out, more than a few left with him. Can't let facts get in the way of opinion.
The piece in today's WSJ noted that one reason Erdogen got pissed off is that the modirator, David Ignatius, had to call a break for dinner and wouldn't allow Erdogan to finish his remarks. Those people leaving with him perhaps were headed for dinner?
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Crux Australis Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:03:00am |
re: #633 MandyManners
Were they self-supporting?
I wouldn't think so. The amount of Alcohol consumed by the two fathers was a concern too.
The ease at which unemployment benefits can be obtained in Australia and kept is astonishing. You could leave school at 17 or 18 and not work a day in your life and pick up an old age pension at 65. Crazy. And Australia still has one of the highest standards of living in the world.
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phoenixgirl Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:03:30am |
re: #737 WriterMom
WHAT?
signing 3 more orders today...and having a joint conference with joe in 45 min...how much more are we required to take?
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:03:35am |
re: #714 Sheepdogess
No, actually it's based on the few facts that we have.
What kind of mother with six children would take fertility drugs to have eight more?
Is it completely beyond your comprehension that some people actually enjoy and WANT large families?
i'm guessing that she was trying for a set of twins.
Clearly, she was not expecting seven or eight.
That she refused to murder her own unborn children for the sake of fiscal convenience, says an awful lot about her moral character.
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WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:03:36am |
re: #749 Nevergiveup
Too many Litvaks there for him, he's a Pollock.
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:03:42am |
re: #676 rawmuse
Hey there rawmuse - good to hear - when ya gonna get out?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:04:14am |
re: #753 lawhawk
Love that song... Thanks!
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:04:20am |
re: #714 Sheepdogess
No, actually it's based on the few facts that we have.
What kind of mother with six children would take fertility drugs to have eight more?
What if she had had the number of embryos reduced? Would some of those who are against her giving birth to eight condemn her for that?
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claspur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:05:27am |
re: #754 phoenixgirl
Can't wait till he gets the Dumb'uhcrat supporters up in arms.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:05:33am |
re: #740 lawhawk
Interesting book about a little mentioned part of Turkey's history:
Paradise Lost: Smyrna, 1922
In September, 1922, after the Turkish forces of Mustafa Kemal defeated a Greek army that had recklessly occupied the Anatolian city of Smyrna, members of Smyrna’s Greek, Armenian, and expatriate communities were killed, raped, and robbed. Soon, a half million people were trapped on the port’s narrow wharves, the city in flames behind them; "The streets were stacked with dead," a British officer wrote. Milton weaves the Armenian genocide, the birth of modern Turkey, and the tragic inanities of Versailles into his story, but his focus is the destruction of the multi-ethnic, religiously diverse cosmopolis of Smyrna (now the Turkish city of Izmir). He has a tendency to idolize the Levantines, dynasties of European "merchant princes" who remained oblivious as Greeks and Turks committed atrocities closer and closer to their enclave. Milton’s more compelling hero is Asa Jennings, a five-foot-tall Y.M.C.A. administrator who, by bluffing, begging, and desperately improvising, single-handedly saved tens of thousands of lives.
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Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:05:41am |
CtP (what a fine name for a dog)! RW!
It's like old home day in here this AM.
...somebody even slipped in a JW linkage just for old times sake I see.
Bar's open.
ANTE
UP,
R
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:06:11am |
re: #716 Irish Rose
Are you kidding me?
Good freaking grief.She has a "right" to access drug thereapy because she's an American citizen.
If she paid for it herself (and she must have, since fertility treatments are not covered by insurance) then what right do you or I or anyone else for that matter have to tell her how many children she should or should not have?
This is the United States, not China.
Americans have the right to access medical care just because they're Americans?
I don't care what she does as long as she pays for it.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:06:37am |
re: #746 Iron Fist
I had some friends, years ago, who underwent fertility treatments so that they could have a kid of their own. The wife had two or three kids from a previous (very young) marriage. She also had multiple successful implants from the one procedure. They made the decision to selectively abort, and I can certainly see the reasons for it. But I also know that it wasn't a step that was taken lightly, and I could understand if they had made a different decision.
OR had a comment on that earlier this week. To many on the Left, they are only "pro-choice" when the woman makes the "right" choice and has an abortion. Which really makes them pro-abortion. We saw the same thing focused on Sarah Palin during the election. She chose to have a Down Syndrome baby instead of abortion, and they acted as though she had committed an unspeakable atrocity against man and God.
Were I a person with a handicap (and I kind of am with the diabetes), I would look on that with a mixture of fear and disgust. Who are they to make the decision of who is, and who isn't, fit to live?
It makes me very concerned about what will happen with my severely disabled son as we move forward. If he ends up in the hospital, we may not be allowed to make the choice. I'm not sure where Illinois law stands, but Texas law was very clear in this regard.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:07:09am |
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rawmuse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:07:22am |
re: #753 lawhawk
I have always liked that song. Metrically, it is very unusual with its 9 measure cadence (most Western music is in 8s or 4s or even 6s). The trumpets are from the mariachi tradition. It is great that Youtube puts those little rectangles over the players so you may know who they are.
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loup-garou Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:07:46am |
Nail-bomber given life sentence
A Muslim convert is jailed for life after launching a failed suicide bomb attack on a restaurant in Devon.
Reilly claimed he was simply doing "what God wants from his mujahideen"."Everywhere Muslims are suffering at the hands of Britain, Israel and America. We are sick of taking all the brutality from you," he wrote.
The note attacked drunkenness and sexual immorality as "unacceptable to Allah and the true religion Islam".
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:07:54am |
I found the WSJ link
The session was already in overtime, and Moderator David Ignatius of the Washington Post cut off Mr. Erdogan, saying "we can't reopen the debate" and that people needed to get to dinner.
"The sixth commandment, thou shall not kill. We are talking about killing," said Mr. Erdogan. "Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I don't think I will come back to Davos after this," he said. "Because you don't let me speak."
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:08:05am |
re: #736 wahabicorridor
Possibly. It's also possible that some one who has never experienced a house full of kids would think most anything is undisciplined. One of my uncles had 6 kids, so maybe it's just that I'm used to being around tons of ankle biters.
Nine people in a three-bedroom house? It'll be 17 when the babies come home. I wonder how far down neighboring house values will go down.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:08:10am |
Carbeque warning to the world? Paris riots may extend worldwide?
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:08:29am |
re: #692 J.S.I'm doing ok, thanks J.S. - I think you'll enjoy that link a lot!
Hope you're doing well!
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:08:41am |
re: #738 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Very cool. Well deserved... he is one of the good guys.
How's it going Dusty, did the VA figure themselves out?
Yesterday the VA hospital called, and for some reason are all concerned with my PTSD. They called again this morning, and inquired about my BP...so I going in midweek for a ton of appointments.
And that bit, has got me going. Wondering if I need to make arrangements for my cat to be boarded. I have feeling I went be home for a week or so.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:08:52am |
re: #755 Irish Rose
That she refused to murder her own unborn children for the sake of fiscal convenience, says an awful lot about her moral character.
On the other hand, where is the consistency in not wanting to "play God" by selectively aborting some of the fetuses in a multiple pregnancy like this, although she and her husband were willing to "play God" by undergoing fertility treatments? (God, after all, seemingly wanted them to stop after the first six kids.)
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Syrah Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:09:27am |
re: #690 MandyManners
Greater than 7 on the Richter Scale? I wonder if this has anything to do with the increase in volcanic activity in Alaska.
It was very small. They would have yawned in California.
It could be related to the volcano. The volcanoes here are fed by huge subduction zones just off the coast. These are the volcanoes that go BOOM. Redoubt could be interesting. We are effectively down wind here in the Seattle area. It could get a little dusty.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:09:34am |
re: #747 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
The plate edge runs all the way around the Pacific coast. There are different plates involved at places, but the thing goes all the way around, with very active regions in many places.
Geologists call it the "ring of fire".
Frequent patrons of Taco Bell call something else the "ring of fire."
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rawmuse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:09:36am |
re: #757 realwest
Hey there rawmuse - good to hear - when ya gonna get out?
Out of where? Oh, you mean move away. Well, Ms. rawmuse has a heavy gig here, maybe when she retires we will pick up stakes. But it ain't all bad here, we have a very active social life and enjoy many things.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:09:37am |
re: #747 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
The plate edge runs all the way around the Pacific coast. There are different plates involved at places, but the thing goes all the way around, with very active regions in many places.
Geologists call it the "ring of fire".
Isn't the Juan de Fuca Plate in a subduction zone?
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:10:04am |
re: #698 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - how are you doing? The link in Syrah's post indicated it was a 4.5 on the Richter scale, which isn't huge, but still more than big enough for me.
How are you doing today?
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christheprofessor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:10:23am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:10:42am |
re: #761 Kenneth
Interesting book about a little mentioned part of Turkey's history:
Paradise Lost: Smyrna, 1922
I've been thinking about getting that book. There's precious little written in English about the Greco-Turkish War fought in the aftermath of World War One.
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WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:10:46am |
re: #776 Throbert McGee
I think that is a very valid point. When is divine intervention invoked, and when is it not.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:11:04am |
re: #780 MandyManners
Isn't the Juan de Fuca Plate in a subduction zone?
Are we having a test today? Because I never got that memo!
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:11:04am |
re: #752 Crux Australis
I wouldn't think so. The amount of Alcohol consumed by the two fathers was a concern too.
The ease at which unemployment benefits can be obtained in Australia and kept is astonishing. You could leave school at 17 or 18 and not work a day in your life and pick up an old age pension at 65. Crazy. And Australia still has one of the highest standards of living in the world.
Two fathers? One woman?
Many complain that Muslims are giving births at a much higher rate than non-Muslims so, what's the answer?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:11:50am |
re: #775 Dustyvet
Yesterday the VA hospital called, and for some reason are all concerned with my PTSD. They called again this morning, and inquired about my BP...so I going in midweek for a ton of appointments.
And that bit, has got me going. Wondering if I need to make arrangements for my cat to be boarded. I have feeling I went be home for a week or so.
Good luck with them. If it makes you feel better, everyone will get "VA Care" when the gub'ment takes over health in this country. Pity all those moonbats think their health care will remain just as it is, but will be free. Idiots.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:12:45am |
re: #780 MandyManners
Isn't the Juan de Fuca Plate in a subduction zone?
Don't look at me... I never had dinner there.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:12:49am |
re: #771 MandyManners
Nine people in a three-bedroom house? It'll be 17 when the babies come home. I wonder how far down neighboring house values will go down.
Our adopted soldier is the youngest of - get this - 19 children. His father was a stevadore, his mom a seamstress. He's from Guyana.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:13:11am |
re: #789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good luck with them. If it makes you feel better, everyone will get "VA Care" when the gub'ment takes over health in this country. Pity all those moonbats think their health care will remain just as it is, but will be free. Idiots.
Most of the people demanding socialized, government-backed healthcare have never been in a VA hospital, methinks. If they had, they would not be asking for it.
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Lincolntf Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:13:24am |
re: #772 lawhawk
It's telling (and a bit amusing) that millions of Frenchmen will fight tooth and nail for the right to NOT work, but when it comes to defending their own country they conveniently forget how to clench their fists.
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:13:42am |
re: #701 Kenneth Hey Kenneth - how are you? Forty years? Wow. This coming Monday, February 2d is the 50TH anniversary of the events described in :[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:13:54am |
re: #759 MandyManners
Perhaps. I am not real keen on IVF, especially for a young mother who already has SIX kids. Again, as I said in my original post, I think there is something else going on here.
We'll see.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:05am |
re: #791 wahabicorridor
Our adopted soldier is the youngest of - get this - 19 children. His father was a stevadore, his mom a seamstress. He's from Guyana.
So if we have "old cat ladies" when a woman has more than ten cats, why don't we have "old baby ladies" when they have that many children?
/so sarc
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:13am |
re: #776 Throbert McGee
On the other hand, where is the consistency in not wanting to "play God" by selectively aborting some of the fetuses in a multiple pregnancy like this, although she and her husband were willing to "play God" by undergoing fertility treatments? (God, after all, seemingly wanted them to stop after the first six kids.)
Very interesting question.
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:28am |
re: #726 realwest
Hey good morning opnion! I don't know much about Chicago politics frankly, but I suspect that's a possibility, but I understand that Blago has been in the belly of that beast called Chicago politics for a LONG time and he might try to make that part of a deal with Fitz - you know, we may soon need to put Emmanuel's photo on Milk Cartons again.........soon!
The corruption there is SO deep and SO wide, that I wouldn't be shocked if Fitz wasn't going after the big man himself, King Daley - and Blago could be his ticket to getting there. Jimmy DeLeo's (sp?) name was featured in Blagos whatever it was speech a few times yesterday; shot across the bow?BTW, and h/t to 3 wood, Illinois' new motto is "Move to Illinois and our govenenors will make your license plate for you!"
Chicago has always been corrupt, but the whole state is really.
Some of the Senators voting for removal are not much cleaner than Blago just not so reckless.
After this broke, Daley disappeared for about a week. The Daleys have a compound in Palm Springs & Grand Beach, Michigan. My guess is that he got all lawyered up & went into seclusion for a while.
I wonder , if Obama will try to get Fitz out of here with some kind of promotion?
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:44am |
re: #780 MandyManners
Isn't the Juan de Fuca Plate in a subduction zone?
Yes. It is being subducted under the North American Plate, under British Columbia, Washington, and Oregon. It's why you have the vulcanism in the area (Mt. Rainier, Mt. St. Helens, etc).
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SurferDoc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:52am |
Juan de Fuca Plate? Serves up to three adults for $17.95, IIRC.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:52am |
re: #796 vxbush
So if we have "old cat ladies" when a woman has more than ten cats, why don't we have "old baby ladies" when they have that many children?
/so sarc
Well apparently we do.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:14:59am |
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Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:15:00am |
re: #771 MandyManners
Nine people in a three-bedroom house? It'll be 17 when the babies come home. I wonder how far down neighboring house values will go down.
That's a very biased statement, Mandy.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:15:32am |
re: #782 realwest
Hey LT - how are you doing? The link in Syrah's post indicated it was a 4.5 on the Richter scale, which isn't huge, but still more than big enough for me.
How are you doing today?
Morning Real!
Shivering at 19 degrees here (now, dunno what it was like earlier, didn't look).
Otherwise doing well... its been several days since the last time my back/hips exploded, so I'm a happy camper!
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:15:43am |
re: #777 Syrah
It was very small. They would have yawned in California.
It could be related to the volcano. The volcanoes here are fed by huge subduction zones just off the coast. These are the volcanoes that go BOOM. Redoubt could be interesting. We are effectively down wind here in the Seattle area. It could get a little dusty.
I moved to Seattle not long after St. Helens blew. I sometimes worried what would happen if I were there if Rainier blew.
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yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:16:13am |
re: #740 lawhawk
Anyone want to ask Turkey whether they were dropping roses on the PKK all those years? Or how Turkey has repeatedly bombed suspected PKK camps inside Iraq (you know, a real cause of war by Iraq against Turkey if Iraq ever chose to pursue the matter). Or that just goes down the memory hole because it's Turkey and not Israel that is defending itself from terrorists who seek to carve up the country involved?
Anyone want to ask Turkey about that small matter of their genocide on the Armenians?
No, didn't thinks so ...
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
We're battening down the hatches - cold and more cold predicted for the next days and week. Day max 17 F ...
I so love Gorebull warming!
/////
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Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:16:34am |
re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I've said it before, he reminds me of Allende. A democratically elected radical leftist who started to dismantle Chilean society as quickly as he could.
¿Dónde es Augusto Pinochet cuando lo necesitamos?
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:16:53am |
re: #771 MandyManners
Nine people in a three-bedroom house? It'll be 17 when the babies come home. I wonder how far down neighboring house values will go down.
Not as far down as my house values went when a couple with no children, two pitbulls, and a yappy, shitting-everywhere Maltese hairball moved next door.
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:16:55am |
re: #712 Syrah
Ah good news then! Well NO earthquake woulda been better news, but at least you're ok and apparently except for maybe a few shook up deer and bears, so is everyone else!
| 810 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:17:49am |
re: #789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good luck with them. If it makes you feel better, everyone will get "VA Care" when the gub'ment takes over health in this country. Pity all those moonbats think their health care will remain just as it is, but will be free. Idiots.
Thanks LT, it's bad enough that the U S Navy and the VA are joining forces at the North Chocago VA, add moon bats to the mix...Ahhh, shit, I just scared the hell out of myself...
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:18:11am |
re: #787 Nevergiveup
Are we having a test today? Because I never got that memo!
I took a few geology courses at UW so I remember a bit. I wish I had chosen that as a major instead of journalism.
I grew up in the New Madrid area. The last quakes there were worst than anything in California's history. Church bells in Boston were rung by the force.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:18:51am |
re: #808 Alouette
Not as far down as my house values went when a couple with no children, two pitbulls, and a yappy, shitting-everywhere Maltese hairball moved next door.
My middle sister had a hard time a few years ago; a couple moved in and the pit bulls kept escaping and biting neighbors. When she went to talk to them, she got a feeling they were running a puppy mill out of there house. I think that couple has since moved out, but it was pretty scary there for a while. You couldn't go walking in the neighborhood without having a stick or something handy in case one of the dogs came by.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:19:18am |
re: #809 realwest
Ah good news then! Well NO earthquake woulda been better news, but at least you're ok and apparently except for maybe a few shook up deer and bears, so is everyone else!
Little earthquakes are good news... they relieve pressure so you don't get a "planet ripper" later.
/That's why New Madrid will suck my house to the core of the earth, been saving up for a long time.
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Syrah Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:19:49am |
re: #805 MandyManners
I moved to Seattle not long after St. Helens blew. I sometimes worried what would happen if I were there if Rainier blew.
It would be very messy.
Hell, Seattle couldn't even clear a little snow. I suspect that if Rainer were to blow its top, the region would be almost completely shut down. The whole of the Puget Sound Area economy would suffer a massive BSOD.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:20:02am |
re: #716 Irish Rose
Are you kidding me?
Good freaking grief.
She has a "right" to access drug thereapy because she's an American citizen.
If she paid for it herself (and she must have, since fertility treatments are not covered by insurance) then what right do you or I or anyone else for that matter have to tell her how many children she should or should not have?
This is the United States, not China.
Please pardon me if I do not "coo" over a single mom who has chosen to have 14 and counting. FOURTEEN!
I see no hint of racism. There is speculation that she is Muslim based on her family name - Islam is not a race.
Is she an American citizen?
Did she pay for the fertility treatment herself?
Did she pay for the vast amount of pre-natal care herself?
Did she pay for the vast natal care herself?
Will she pay for the future medical costs and vast child-rearing expenses?
Why has the father left for Iraq - is he a US soldier or even an American citizen?
The family claims to have a huge house "not here" - is the "huge house" in the USA?
Until these questions are answered I suggest you keep your shirt on.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:20:06am |
re: #811 MandyManners
I took a few geology courses at UW so I remember a bit. I wish I had chosen that as a major instead of journalism.
I grew up in the New Madrid area. The last quakes there were worst than anything in California's history. Church bells in Boston were rung by the force.
Yup; I'm within the zone for New Madrid, even though I'm in middle Illinois. The big concern there is what happens when the next "big one" comes and all those cities that built up on the Ohio River start to go *into* the river.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:20:46am |
re: #790 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Don't look at me... I never had dinner there.
IIRC, the Juan de Fuca Plate's moving away from the Pacific Plate, and toward the North American Plate.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:21:01am |
re: #616 3 wood
He was on the local news last night threatening to sing long and loud about just about everybody.
If I were Blago, I would not go jogging alone for quite a while. His State provided body guards got yanked this morning.
Very strange things can happen to you in Chicago when you threaten to sing like a bird to the authorities. You get found so well that nobody else can find you for a long, long time.
For some reason, 3 Wood, the name Jimmy Hoffa suddenly springs to mind.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:21:35am |
re: #791 wahabicorridor
Our adopted soldier is the youngest of - get this - 19 children. His father was a stevadore, his mom a seamstress. He's from Guyana.
Did they all survive?
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Throbert McGee Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:21:44am |
re: #759 MandyManners
What if she had had the number of embryos reduced? Would some of those who are against her giving birth to eight condemn her for that?
I wouldn't condemn her, in that case -- if she and her husband were truly determined to have eight more kids, it would've been objectively safer from a medical perspective to attempt four successive twin pregnancies than to risk one octuplet pregnancy. In other words, my position is not that "eight kids is too many," but rather than "eight fetuses in a single pregnancy is too many" -- it puts ALL EIGHT unborn babies plus the mother at increased risk of serious health problems.
| 822 |
Irish Rose Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:22:44am |
re: #815 Spare O'Lake
Until these questions are answered I suggest you keep your shirt on.
And until these questions are answered, I suggest that you keep your ugly personal prejudices to yourself.
I'm disgusted by what I'm reading here, and too angry to continue this discussion.
Later.
| 823 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:01am |
re: #811 MandyManners
I took a few geology courses at UW so I remember a bit. I wish I had chosen that as a major instead of journalism.
I just ordered a geology course on DVD. Should be here in a few days - can't wait.
| 824 |
rawmuse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:14am |
re: #819 Iron Fist
The State would now have a financial incentive to see you dead, rather than ill.
We could all be in the same boat, sooner or later.
| 825 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:14am |
Breaking News:
More US Money going to Palestinians and NGO's which support Hamas:
United States Humanitarian Support to Palestinians
January 30, 2009
Media Note
Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
January 30, 2009
President Barack Obama has authorized the use of $20.3 million from the U.S. Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance (ERMA) Fund to address critical post-conflict humanitarian needs in Gaza. U.S. Government support for humanitarian assistance to Palestinian refugees and conflict victims now totals nearly $120 million in FY 2009, including nearly $60 million in Gaza.
Of the $20.3 million in new ERMA funds, $13.5 million will go to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), $6 million to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), and $800,000 to the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). These organizations are distributing emergency food assistance, providing medical assistance and temporary shelter, creating temporary employment, and restoring access to electricity and potable water to the people of Gaza.
Today’s contribution to UNRWA augments the $85 million the United States contributed in December 2008 toward UNRWA’s 2009 appeals. Of that amount, $25 million supported UNRWA emergency operations in West Bank and Gaza. The remaining $60 million supported UNRWA’s services for 4.6 million Palestinian refugees in the region, including Gaza. UNRWA is the largest provider of humanitarian aid in Gaza, providing 70 percent of the population with emergency food assistance, essential healthcare, and primary education. We are working to develop a longer-term reconstruction/development effort with international partners.
Furthermore, today’s contribution to ICRC complements the $9.7 million the United States provided earlier this month for ICRC’s activities for victims of conflict in the Middle East, with particular attention to its critical programs in Gaza. U.S. support of the ICRC buttresses the organization’s efforts to supply Gaza’s hospitals and clinics with urgently needed medical equipment, as well as to rehabilitate damaged water pumps and sanitation systems.
Finally, the U.S. contribution to OCHA supports its essential coordination activities for the Humanitarian Country Team, comprised of UN Agencies and non-governmental organizations providing humanitarian assistance in Gaza.
In addition to our contributions to UNRWA, ICRC, and OCHO, to date, USAID has provided more than $3.7 million for emergency assistance to Gaza. Food, milk powder, blankets, plastic sheeting, and other nonfood items have been distributed to beneficiaries, and the distributions are continuing. This assistance is distributed to beneficiaries through USAID’s implementing partners under six recently awarded grants ($250,000 each) to Mercy Corps, American Near East Refugee Aid (ANERA), CHF International, Relief International, Catholic Relief Services, and CARE International. Food distributions are done through USAID’s grant to the World Food Program (WFP).
The U.S. reiterates its support for humanitarian actors responding to emergency needs in Gaza and encourages other states to provide urgently needed funding to UNRWA, ICRC, WFP and other international and non-governmental organizations providing this lifesaving care to civilians in Gaza.
2009/087
| 826 |
faraway Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:16am |
Obama's spiritual adviser is speaking now - and getting an award.
| 827 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:18am |
re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I have the author's previous book, "White Gold", about the Moroccan slave trade, which is excellent. Smyrna is on my reading list.
| 828 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:24am |
re: #819 Iron Fist
I worry about what is going to happen to me (and probably a few million like me) when Obama rolls out his Socialized Medicine Show. My medications are not cheap, even with insurance. My diabetes is proving difficult to control. I could see some faceless bureaucrat deciding that it costs too much to keep me alive, and pulls the plug funding it.
I didn't believe in Socialized medicine when I was healthy, and now the prospect of it worries me. It isn't as big a worry as I have with things like gun control, but it is still worrisome. I haven't gotten a good night's sleep since the election. Barry O worries me too much, on too many different levels.
That is true for a lot of Americans. My husband is on a medication that the insurance says it isn't going to cover (i.e. it's not on the formulary) and so we pay twice as much for it as we do any other medication. If medicine gets any more federally controlled (and it's already limited by what Medicare/Medicaid does--that trickles down to the insurance companies), many of these medications will simply not be paid for and you won't have the option to buy them yourself. That will be a bad, bad, day, my friend. For all of us.
| 829 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:24am |
re: #743 rw in san diego
I'm glad to hear you're doing well; mom and I are doing ok, too, thanks!
And yeah, I was glad to see CtP out here today too! And especially after his dream last night!
| 830 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:30am |
re: #818 Honorary Yooper
For some reason, 3 Wood, the name Jimmy Hoffa suddenly springs to mind.
Are they planning on making a new football stadium in Chicago anytime soon?
| 831 |
godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:43am |
re: #482 3 wood
If on the other hand, the gov't buys the securities at 50 or 60 cents on the dollar (probably much closer to the long term value os these things), it helps the banks to survive but the gov't will need to come up with about 2 trillion to do this.
Why can't the Fed just declare a "Jubilee Year" and forget the whole debt thing?
| 832 |
Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:23:58am |
re: #816 vxbush
Yup; I'm within the zone for New Madrid, even though I'm in middle Illinois. The big concern there is what happens when the next "big one" comes and all those cities that built up on the Ohio River start to go *into* the river.
Let's put it this way, a repeat of 1811-12 would be very bad, to put it mildly. I suspect you'd have a ton of destruction as far north as Milwaukee, and as far south as Baton Rouge. There's no way that even Chicago is immune to it.
| 833 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:24:35am |
| 834 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:24:41am |
re: #821 Throbert McGee
I wouldn't condemn her, in that case -- if she and her husband were truly determined to have eight more kids, it would've been objectively safer from a medical perspective to attempt four successive twin pregnancies than to risk one octuplet pregnancy. In other words, my position is not that "eight kids is too many," but rather than "eight fetuses in a single pregnancy is too many" -- it puts ALL EIGHT unborn babies plus the mother at increased risk of serious health problems.
Actually, my tendency is to look at the fertility doctor and say, "why on earth did you put so many fertilized embryos in this woman?" I realize he was probably expecting her to lose a few, but she obviously didn't.
| 835 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:24:47am |
re: #795 Sheepdogess
Perhaps. I am not real keen on IVF, especially for a young mother who already has SIX kids. Again, as I said in my original post, I think there is something else going on here.
We'll see.
Part of me believes that this is a private issue but, the genie's escaped from the bottle. It will be interesting to see what develops.
| 836 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:25:40am |
re: #815 Spare O'Lake
Please pardon me if I do not "coo" over a single mom who has chosen to have 14 and counting. FOURTEEN!
I see no hint of racism. There is speculation that she is Muslim based on her family name - Islam is not a race.
Is she an American citizen?
Did she pay for the fertility treatment herself?
Did she pay for the vast amount of pre-natal care herself?
Did she pay for the vast natal care herself?
Will she pay for the future medical costs and vast child-rearing expenses?
Why has the father left for Iraq - is he a US soldier or even an American citizen?
The family claims to have a huge house "not here" - is the "huge house" in the USA?
Until these questions are answered I suggest you keep your shirt on.
I saw an interview with her. She is an American. According to Fox news, her husband works for a defense contractor. I believe the family name has not been released. According to another news source I head this morning (can't remember which one) her father said he owns another property that is large and seriously off the beaten path that they intend to re-locate to.
| 838 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:26:06am |
re: #827 Kenneth
I have the author's previous book, "White Gold", about the Moroccan slave trade, which is excellent. Smyrna is on my reading list.
Oh, please. Only black Africans have ever been slaves, and only in the United States. Everyone knows that.
///
| 839 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:26:33am |
re: #735 opnion
Speaking of large families, a mountain couple has nine children.
The husband goes to see his dioctor to get fixed.
The doctor is curious & asks what drove him to the decision.
The man says "I heard that every tenth baby born here is Mexican & we don't speak Spanish."
Good morning, all!
Upding for violating PC rules!
| 840 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:27:11am |
re: #820 MandyManners
Did they all survive?
Yep. By the time he was born, some had already reached majority and moved out on their own. He's 48 years old now.
| 841 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:27:18am |
| 842 |
Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:27:22am |
re: #830 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Are they planning on making a new football stadium in Chicago anytime soon?
No, but there is a new freeway or tollway (not decided which yet) to be built in Kendall County...
| 843 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:27:29am |
re: #832 Honorary Yooper
Let's put it this way, a repeat of 1811-12 would be very bad, to put it mildly. I suspect you'd have a ton of destruction as far north as Milwaukee, and as far south as Baton Rouge. There's no way that even Chicago is immune to it.
Yup. And many people in the midwest think they are safe from really bad stuff and only have to deal with tornadoes every once in a while. Oy.
| 844 |
godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:27:31am |
re: #832 Honorary Yooper
Hm, in Louisiana, everything south of Alexandria is built on mud. Give it a good shake, and you're in trouble.
| 845 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:27:36am |
re: #799 Honorary Yooper
Yes. It is being subducted under the North American Plate, under British Columbia, Washington, and Oregon. It's why you have the vulcanism in the area (Mt. Rainier, Mt. St. Helens, etc).
My parents lived in Sahalee in Redmond and I useta' swing by their house early in the mornings after an all-nighter. Watching the sun rise over Baker was an awe-inspiring moment. I felt as if I'd stepped back in time.
| 846 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:28:41am |
re: #803 Irish Rose
That's a very biased statement, Mandy.
Where is the bias? I am making no racial or religious assumptions.
| 848 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:29:22am |
I got change on my lips,
And a blackberry on my hips
| 849 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:29:25am |
re: #808 Alouette
Not as far down as my house values went when a couple with no children, two pitbulls, and a yappy, shitting-everywhere Maltese hairball moved next door.
Isn't Chirac's dog a Maltese?
| 850 |
rawmuse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:29:45am |
re: #843 vxbush
Yup. And many people in the midwest think they are safe from really bad stuff and only have to deal with tornadoes every once in a while. Oy.
IF you (hevvinforbid) have an earthquake, I, for one, will NOT be wagging my finger and pointing it out as God's punishment for your profligate ways, as morons do every time we get a temblor in Ca.
| 851 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:30:15am |
re: #812 vxbush
My middle sister had a hard time a few years ago; a couple moved in and the pit bulls kept escaping and biting neighbors. When she went to talk to them, she got a feeling they were running a puppy mill out of there house. I think that couple has since moved out, but it was pretty scary there for a while. You couldn't go walking in the neighborhood without having a stick or something handy in case one of the dogs came by.
Why didn't someone call the police?!
| 852 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:30:46am |
re: #849 MandyManners
Isn't Chirac's dog a Maltese?
The clinically depressed dog that attacked him was a poodle.
| 853 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:31:00am |
re: #814 Syrah
It would be very messy.
Hell, Seattle couldn't even clear a little snow. I suspect that if Rainer were to blow its top, the region would be almost completely shut down. The whole of the Puget Sound Area economy would suffer a massive BSOD.
Would the lava flow go as far north as Renton?
| 854 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:31:20am |
re: #814 Syrah
It would be very messy.
Hell, Seattle couldn't even clear a little snow. I suspect that if Rainer were to blow its top, the region would be almost completely shut down. The whole of the Puget Sound Area economy would suffer a massive BSOD.
The upside is that the pyroclastic flow would wipe out a lot of moonbats.
| 855 |
opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:31:30am |
re: #839 vapig
Good morning, all!
Upding for violating PC rules!
| 856 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:32:09am |
re: #850 rawmuse
IF you (hevvinforbid) have an earthquake, I, for one, will NOT be wagging my finger and pointing it out as God's punishment for your profligate ways, as morons do every time we get a temblor in Ca.
Naw, it's punishment for not freezing their asses off like us.
/makes it a little more fair...
| 857 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:32:19am |
re: #850 rawmuse
IF you (hevvinforbid) have an earthquake, I, for one, will NOT be wagging my finger and pointing it out as God's punishment for your profligate ways, as morons do every time we get a temblor in Ca.
Well, there's a reason why we call them morons, isn't it? Sigh.
| 858 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:32:26am |
re: #838 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Oh, please. Only black Africans have ever been slaves, and only in the United States. Everyone knows that.
///
That's what we're taught, but... from the early 16th to the end of the 18th century, the Moroccans took from 1000 to 5000 European slaves every year. They took maybe 10 times that many black African slaves as well. Their whole economy was based on the slave trade.
| 859 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:32:46am |
Meanwhile in Gaza, Gazans get aid, blame Hamas for situation
The size of the hand-outs is mind-boggling: 'A Hamas cabinet minister carried a carton stuffed with checks worth nearly $2 million into a Gaza tent camp pitched on the ruins of the Salam neighborhood, close to the Israeli border.'
And of course the UNWRA chief is still blaming Israel for everything ...
| 860 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:32:47am |
re: #851 MandyManners
Why didn't someone call the police?!
Someone may have. I don't recall. I just know that there were issues with a neighbor and there were a few too many dogs around. And then they were gone.
| 861 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:33:00am |
re: #816 vxbush
Yup; I'm within the zone for New Madrid, even though I'm in middle Illinois. The big concern there is what happens when the next "big one" comes and all those cities that built up on the Ohio River start to go *into* the river.
I've heard that the region's governments are retrofitting the bridges across the Mississippi. Can you imagine the devestation in St. Louis? Memphis?
| 863 |
Lincolntf Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:33:44am |
re: #814 Syrah
I hope nothing happens up there, but if it does, then you can take heart in Obama's pledge that we'll never have "another Katrina". The minute you see a plume of ash, go outside and wait for the magical Obama to come save you.
| 864 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:33:55am |
re: #754 phoenixgirl
Well, according to Fox and Friends - fwiw, - Obama is signing a bunch of executive orders which favor unions enormously and overturn EO's signed by Dubya, undoing a bunch of EO's signed by Clinton which themselves were EO's overturning Bush I's EO's.
Now you know why Unions love Dems and hate Repubs.
BTW, Saw McCain on Fox and Friends too, and while they mostly talked about the Superbowl, McCain astonished me: he was asked directly if Obama was right to call out Republicans who were united in oppostion to Obama's (actually Pelosi and Reid's) Stimulus Plan and McCain said NO - "the Dems made no attempt at all to get our input into the bill before presenting it for a vote and I don't think ANY Senate Republicans will vote for it either. You know bi-partisanship is more than just a word; let's see President Obama genuinely try to reach bi-partisan plans for dealing with our economy; as it now stands his $800 Billion dollar plan has probably less than 20% devoted to stimulus; the rest is just more money for more Democratic Party Pet Projects."*
*note, this is from memory and not necessarily a "quote" from McCain.
| 865 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:34:04am |
re: #849 MandyManners
Isn't Chirac's dog a Maltese?
I thought he was a 'Maltipoo'?
(Erm, thats not rude, its a cross between a Maltese and a Poodle ...)
| 866 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:35:04am |
re: #755 Irish Rose
The family has money. This isn't about the money. It's about a young woman with six kids having IVF producing eight premature babies with health problems.
I'm very skeptical about the status of the dad.
| 867 |
SurferDoc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:35:34am |
The Republicans should be out there screaming that this stimulus package is just Democrats bailing out their "Rich Friends".
| 868 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:35:36am |
re: #762 RenderIt is indeed sorta "Old Home Day" - with the emphasis on "Old" LOL!
How are ya Render?
| 869 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:35:51am |
re: #862 Iron Fist
That's typically how IVF is done. The chances of having a pregnancy occur with just one attempt at implanting it are pretty low. They usually implant multiple fertilized eggs and hope that it takes. I'll agree that eight sounds like overkill, but isn't that a decision for the woman to make after consultation with her doctor?
As i have not gone through IVF nor do I know anyone who has, I'm really speculating here. I realize that they often plan multiple embryos because it often doesn't work the first time. But I would also expect a doctor to look at her previous pregnancies and, perhaps realizing that she had six successfully, may not have as much trouble implanting as an average woman. He could have argued that fewer embryos were needed. And to be honest, I'm not sure--do the doctors tell women under IVF how many embryos are planted?
| 870 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:05am |
re: #805 MandyManners
I moved to Seattle not long after St. Helens blew. I sometimes worried what would happen if I were there if Rainier blew.
Messy wouldn't begin to describe it. If Rainier blew laterally, like St. Helens, it could wipe out all the local communities nearby in an instant. If it blows its top, it could still wipe out the local communities with lahars and mudslides that could reach all the way to Puget Sound. A million people are within the danger zone there, and if it hits in the winter or spring, the damages increase because of snowmelt combining with the ash.
| 871 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:06am |
re: #821 Throbert McGee
I wouldn't condemn her, in that case -- if she and her husband were truly determined to have eight more kids, it would've been objectively safer from a medical perspective to attempt four successive twin pregnancies than to risk one octuplet pregnancy. In other words, my position is not that "eight kids is too many," but rather than "eight fetuses in a single pregnancy is too many" -- it puts ALL EIGHT unborn babies plus the mother at increased risk of serious health problems.
I'm surprised that the eight don't have serious respiratory problems but, since she checked into the hospital a while back and they were only nine weeks premature, it sounds like they're doing well.
| 872 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:09am |
re: #865 yma o hyd
I thought he was a 'Maltipoo'?
(Erm, thats not rude, its a cross between a Maltese and a Poodle ...)
A "maltipoo" sounds like what would happen if "Mr. Hankey" from South Park fell into a milk shake blender.
| 873 |
Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:28am |
re: #853 MandyManners
Would the lava flow go as far north as Renton?
On volcanoes such as Mt. Rainier, there really isn't much lava. I'd worry more about lahars sweeping down through Seattle's south suburbs and the potential for a pyroclastic flow. Here's an image of St. Pierre from the 1902 eruption of Mt. Pelee for an example of the latter.
| 874 |
Throbert McGee Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:28am |
re: #821 Throbert McGee
my position is not that "eight kids is too many," but rather than "eight fetuses in a single pregnancy is too many" -- it puts ALL EIGHT unborn babies plus the mother at increased risk of serious health problems.
I'm NOT saying, by the way, that she should've been compelled to abort some of the fetuses or anything like that.
I'm saying that if -- knock wood -- all eight babies and the mom are in good health, the rest of society should react to it exactly as we'd react to the story of a motorcyclist who tried to jump over a line of cars without a helmet, blew a tire, flipped the bike three times into a concrete embankment, and walked away totally unscathed: "Well, we're all super glad that nothing terrible happened, but YOU'RE STILL A FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE MORON for having tried it in the first place."
| 875 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:48am |
re: #850 rawmuse
IF you (hevvinforbid) have an earthquake, I, for one, will NOT be wagging my finger and pointing it out as God's punishment for your profligate ways, as morons do every time we get a temblor in Ca.
Well, it will obviously be due to 0bama's being even less than even a "support of reeds" for Israel.
/
| 876 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:36:49am |
re: #823 wahabicorridor
I just ordered a geology course on DVD. Should be here in a few days - can't wait.
I have all my text books packed away somewhere.
| 877 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:37:12am |
Pat Quinn is the new Governor of Illinois.
He was a great hockey coach, so I hope he does well in his new job.
| 879 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:37:46am |
Later lizards... time to venture into the arctic and play Nanook of the North.
| 880 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:37:56am |
re: #805 MandyManners
I moved to Seattle not long after St. Helens blew. I sometimes worried what would happen if I were there if Rainier blew.
Even a plain old eruption would be catastrophic. The glaciers would melt and flood the valley leading to Seattle.
| 881 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:38:20am |
re: #843 vxbush
Yup. And many people in the midwest think they are safe from really bad stuff and only have to deal with tornadoes every once in a while. Oy.
I'm in Wichita, and I think we'd even get some of the effects of a New Madrid quake. A friend of mine is in southern MO, and he'd be lucky to make it out.
| 882 |
godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:38:38am |
re: #874 Throbert McGee
Well put, but I would add that she also endangered her children in utero, so the motorcyclist analogy is not quite accurate.
| 883 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:38:50am |
re: #872 Colonel Panik
A "maltipoo" sounds like what would happen if "Mr. Hankey" from South Park fell into a milk shake blender.
Teeheehee!
I'm just glad I spell-checked and didn't type 'multi- ...' - although I do know a few dogs who do that ...
Sorry, forgive me my childish enjoyment of scatology.
Its been one of those days ...
| 884 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:39:28am |
re: #874 Throbert McGee
Famous Last Words
*
I'll get a world record for this.
*
Let me reach in and get your watch out of the printing press.
*
Hey there's no handles inside these car doors!
*
Gee, that's a cute tattoo.
*
Here's my Kent State student ID.
*
It's fireproof.
*
He's probably just hibernating.
*
What does this button do?
*
I'm making a citizen's arrest.
*
Can we get a vision plan?
*
So, you're a cannibal.
*
It's probably just a rash.
*
Why am I standing on a plastic sheet?
*
Are you sure the power is off?
*
Yeah, I made the deciding vote on the jury, so what of it?
*
No, my shoes aren't untied.
*
The odds of that happening have to be a million to one!
*
What do you mean, "I'll be back"?
*
Why is the rest of the Star Trek landing party wearing a different color?
*
Pull the pin and count to what?
*
Which wire was I supposed to cut?
*
I wonder where the mother bear is.
*
I've seen this done on TV.
*
These are the good kind of mushrooms.
*
I'll hold it and you light the fuse.
*
What's that priest doing here?
*
You look just like Charles Manson.
*
Let it down slowly.
*
Rat poison only kills rats.
*
OK, I'll go ahead and make your day.
*
It can't possibly rain for forty days and nights.
*
I'll get your toast out.
*
Give me liberty or give me death.
*
Just take whatever you want, this is a ghost town.
*
It's strong enough for both of us.
*
This doesn't taste right.
*
I can make this light before it changes.
*
Nice doggie.
*
I can do that with my eyes closed.
*
I've done this before.
*
Well we've made it this far.
*
That's odd.
*
Hey that's not a violin.
*
I'll just slip into the commuter lane for a second.
*
I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.
*
You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses on, would you?
*
OK this is the last time.
*
Don't be so superstitious.
*
Now watch this.
*
This planet has an atmosphere just like on earth.
*
That birthmark on your head looks like 999.
*
What duck?
| 885 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:39:38am |
re: #772 lawhawkJust as Mayor Bloomber calls for cuts in Police and Firefighters too!
Why the hell do people keep voting for this idjit?
| 886 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:40:03am |
re: #880 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Even a plain old eruption would be catastrophic. The glaciers would melt and flood the valley leading to Seattle.
Global warming! (BTW, some glaciers in Greenland are moving faster because they are being heated from below, not due to warmer air. That must be our fault for not using enough geological power to cool the Earth.)
| 887 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:40:09am |
re: #881 right_wing2
I'm in Wichita, and I think we'd even get some of the effects of a New Madrid quake. A friend of mine is in southern MO, and he'd be lucky to make it out.
I know we've had at least one minor earthquake in the last year (I think it ranked as a 3 on the Richter scale), but I know they would like to see more to release that pressure.
| 888 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:01am |
re: #775 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - can y'all drop me an e-mail about your situation with the VA? Why are they all of a sudden concerned with your PTSD?
| 889 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:02am |
re: #867 SurferDoc
The Republicans should be out there screaming that this stimulus package is just Democrats bailing out their "Rich Friends".
They won't, much.
This is convenient for the Republicans. They can all vote against it, brag that they did, let the Democrats take the public relations hit and tons of their special interests will still get their handouts.
Before the election, the Republicans were all over the place giving handout away, McCain couldn't get to DC fast enough to do his good deed.
Just for fun, watch how McCain votes. He'll probably vote no, which is a firm indication that the Republicans are just playing good cop, bad cop in this.
This time they get to be good cop.
| 890 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:05am |
re: #885 realwest
Just as Mayor Bloomber calls for cuts in Police and Firefighters too!
Why the hell do people keep voting for this idjit?
He always runs against a bigger idjit!
| 891 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:09am |
Has anybody commented on the "Buy American" provisions of this bail-out bill? There are concerns the bill will bring in trade protections which will set off a global trade war, making the economic crisis even worse.
Global trade wars or voter revolt? Let Obama's difficult decisions begin
The toxic "buy American" provisions in the economic stimulus package currently before the Senate pose a crucial test for Barack Obama's young administration.
To prevent a cascade of tariff protection that would ultimately hurt his own workers and his own country's economy, Mr. Obama must find some way to strip the protectionist clauses that infect the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
Yet, politically, that might be impossible. Mr. Obama owes his presidency to the votes of blue-collar workers in the industrial Midwest, many of whom are out of work as a result of the slowdown.
"Buy American" violates the North American free-trade agreement, but Mr. Obama has vowed to renegotiate or, failing that, rip up NAFTA, so has little stake in coming to its defence.
If Obama was looking for a way to totally drive a stake into the heart of the US & world economy, a trade war would do it. Change!
| 893 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:20am |
re: #840 wahabicorridor
Yep. By the time he was born, some had already reached majority and moved out on their own. He's 48 years old now.
I cannot imagine giving birth to a child while my others are grown. If I started when I was 18, that would mean that I was giving birth in my late 30s. Wow. I'm getting tired just thinking about it.
| 894 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:34am |
re: #888 realwest
Hey Dusty - can y'all drop me an e-mail about your situation with the VA? Why are they all of a sudden concerned with your PTSD?
Will do.
| 895 |
Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:42am |
re: #868 realwest
I've been having great fun with my new little troll, it actually managed to amuse me for a moment. I've decided to let it wriggle on the hook for a few more days.
Not having great fun with HTML though...
PHOOEY,
R
| 896 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:44am |
| 897 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:41:55am |
re: #879 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Later lizards... time to venture into the arctic and play Nanook of the North.
| 898 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:42:11am |
re: #890 Nevergiveup
He always runs against a bigger idjit!
Oh and also he is a billionaire you might have heard
| 899 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:42:30am |
re: #886 Kosh's Shadow
Global warming! (BTW, some glaciers in Greenland are moving faster because they are being heated from below, not due to warmer air. That must be our fault for not using enough geological power to cool the Earth.)
Heh.
Its the fault of Iceland - they've been keeping all that geothermal power to themselves instead of exporting it!
| 900 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:42:51am |
re: #884 Dustyvet
Famous Last Words
*
I'll get a world record for this.
*Let me reach in and get your watch out of the printing press.
*Hey there's no handles inside these car doors!
*Gee, that's a cute tattoo.
*Here's my Kent State student ID.
*It's fireproof.
*He's probably just hibernating.
*What does this button do?
*I'm making a citizen's arrest.
*Can we get a vision plan?
*So, you're a cannibal.
*It's probably just a rash.
*Why am I standing on a plastic sheet?
*Are you sure the power is off?
*Yeah, I made the deciding vote on the jury, so what of it?
*No, my shoes aren't untied.
*The odds of that happening have to be a million to one!
*What do you mean, "I'll be back"?
*Why is the rest of the Star Trek landing party wearing a different color?
*Pull the pin and count to what?
*Which wire was I supposed to cut?
*I wonder where the mother bear is.
*I've seen this done on TV.
*These are the good kind of mushrooms.
*I'll hold it and you light the fuse.
*What's that priest doing here?
*You look just like Charles Manson.
*Let it down slowly.
*Rat poison only kills rats.
*OK, I'll go ahead and make your day.
*It can't possibly rain for forty days and nights.
*I'll get your toast out.
*Give me liberty or give me death.
*Just take whatever you want, this is a ghost town.
*It's strong enough for both of us.
*This doesn't taste right.
*I can make this light before it changes.
*Nice doggie.
*I can do that with my eyes closed.
*I've done this before.
*Well we've made it this far.
*That's odd.
*Hey that's not a violin.
*I'll just slip into the commuter lane for a second.
*I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.
*You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses on, would you?
*OK this is the last time.
*Don't be so superstitious.
*Now watch this.
*This planet has an atmosphere just like on earth.
*That birthmark on your head looks like 999.
*What duck?
Are you kidding? He couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-
| 901 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:42:57am |
re: #884 Dustyvet
You forgot, "Here hold my beer, and watch this". :)
| 902 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:43:55am |
re: #881 right_wing2
I'm in Wichita, and I think we'd even get some of the effects of a New Madrid quake. A friend of mine is in southern MO, and he'd be lucky to make it out.
Living in the DC metro area (Northern Virginia) I'd rather take on an earthquake any day. As it is, our worst un-natural hazard is the idiots who work across the river here.
| 903 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:44:35am |
re: #866 Sheepdogess
The family has money. This isn't about the money. It's about a young woman with six kids having IVF producing eight premature babies with health problems.
I'm very skeptical about the status of the dad.
Where did you find out that the family has money? If they did, why are they living in a three-bedroom house with nine adults?
| 904 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:44:40am |
re: #891 Kenneth
Well - the USA have experience in that - see Hoover and FDR ...
One would have thought that some people with economic clout would have learned from that experience, but no!
| 905 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:44:51am |
having grown up in no. california, living in so. california being in both the 89 and 93 quakes as well as all the others from 1965 through 1994......
i'm enjoying the earthquake discussion......on that note....
earthquake mythology
| 906 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:44:55am |
re: #877 Kenneth
Pat Quinn is the new Governor of Illinois.
He was a great hockey coach, so I hope he does well in his new job.
He coached the Flyers during the remarkable "Streak" of 1979-80, in which they went 35 games without a loss, a record in all of professional sports.
| 907 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:45:44am |
re: #870 lawhawk
Messy wouldn't begin to describe it. If Rainier blew laterally, like St. Helens, it could wipe out all the local communities nearby in an instant. If it blows its top, it could still wipe out the local communities with lahars and mudslides that could reach all the way to Puget Sound. A million people are within the danger zone there, and if it hits in the winter or spring, the damages increase because of snowmelt combining with the ash.
That's one of the reasons I no longer live there.
| 908 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:46:41am |
re: #893 MandyManners
I cannot imagine giving birth to a child while my others are grown. If I started when I was 18, that would mean that I was giving birth in my late 30s. Wow. I'm getting tired just thinking about it.
Evidently, she was not a happy woman. She abused all the children and ended up committing suicide when our soldier was 10 - to his relief. He said she was in her 50s.
He revered his father, tho.
| 909 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:46:47am |
re: #873 Honorary Yooper
On volcanoes such as Mt. Rainier, there really isn't much lava. I'd worry more about lahars sweeping down through Seattle's south suburbs and the potential for a pyroclastic flow. Here's an image of St. Pierre from the 1902 eruption of Mt. Pelee for an example of the latter.
I hope folks have good insurance.
| 910 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:46:53am |
re: #825 MJ
Are you surprised? I'm not. Our troops are next.
| 911 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:47:39am |
re: #880 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Even a plain old eruption would be catastrophic. The glaciers would melt and flood the valley leading to Seattle.
Far worse than St. Helen's damage.
| 912 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:48:22am |
re: #902 vapig
Living in the DC metro area (Northern Virginia) I'd rather take on an earthquake any day. As it is, our worst un-natural hazard is the idiots who work across the river here.
We had an earthquake here a few months ago - (Sept, Oct)! It was 2 on the richter scale. We're in Alexandria, btw. We didn't know what it was - thought somebody was blasting somewhere -
| 913 |
nyc redneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:48:56am |
re: #837 Iron Fist
They don't want to try that in my neck of the woods. Nearly everyone owns a gun or two (or twenty or thirty :-). Back when they were debating the first "Assault Weapons" ban I read an article that quoted the sheriff's department that said that the rate of gun ownership is greater than 80%. Trying to torch some redneck's truck in the name of spreading jihad is a good way to get your lifespan shortened dramatically.
"trying to torch some redneck's truck in the name of spreading jihad is a good way
to get your lifespan shortened dramatically"
:D
(i had to repeat it)
| 914 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:49:36am |
re: #819 Iron Fist
Hey bro' - there are a whole lot more than a "few" million like you - folks with extreme diseases and while I generally don't credit politicians, especially Narcissistic (h/tSharmuta) s.o.b.'s like Obama with much in the way of brains, I don't see them taking on a voting "block" of nearly 50 million Americans by denying (or so delaying treatment as to equal denying) treatment to those in need. It's the folks who are currently in pretty good health who ought to be worried about what's gonna happen to them 5-10 years down the road.
| 915 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:49:51am |
re: #900 right_wing2
"Of course I love you, Susan... er, I mean, Jane."
| 916 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:50:25am |
The U.S. Government is being run by people who have the worldview of children.
| 917 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:50:41am |
re: #896 Walter L. Newton
Mandy, you've probably seen this at some point, but...
I've never heard that one. I was laughing until the "knees" bit, then I shut it off.
| 918 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:50:42am |
re: #912 wahabicorridor
We had an earthquake here a few months ago - (Sept, Oct)! It was 2 on the richter scale. We're in Alexandria, btw. We didn't know what it was - thought somebody was blasting somewhere -
Alexandria, Virginia? I live in Alexandria, Virginia and didn't feel a thing. However, as a native Californian nothing lower than 4.0 would even catch my attention. A truck driving by causes more of a shake-up than a 2.0!
| 919 |
Lincolntf Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:50:47am |
re: #912 wahabicorridor
We had one like that in MA when I was a kid. All of a sudden, the water in my friends swimming pool started sloshing back and forth and a few dead leaves/branches started falling in the yard. It took us hearing about it on the radio to figure out what the hell had just happened.
| 920 |
turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:51:10am |
| 921 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:51:53am |
re: #826 faraway Yeah, but he's only speaking to about 100 students and I'll bet half of them dropped in to see if he does have horns!
| 922 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:52:05am |
re: #916 acwgusa
The U.S. Government is being run by people who have the worldview of children.
My kids were never that naive?
| 923 |
nyc redneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:53:18am |
re: #916 acwgusa
The U.S. Government is being run by people who have the worldview of children.
demon seeds w/ a socialist agenda
| 924 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:53:20am |
re: #922 Nevergiveup
Your children probably aren't Democrats who think we can all just get along.
| 926 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:53:45am |
re: #905 phoenixgirl
having grown up in no. california, living in so. california being in both the 89 and 93 quakes as well as all the others from 1965 through 1994......
i'm enjoying the earthquake discussion......on that note....
earthquake mythology
Looks like you undertook the same exodus I did.
| 927 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:54:08am |
re: #908 wahabicorridor
Evidently, she was not a happy woman. She abused all the children and ended up committing suicide when our soldier was 10 - to his relief. He said she was in her 50s.
He revered his father, tho.
I wonder how much multple pregnancies contributed to her unhappiness. Did she want all of them?
| 928 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:55:30am |
| 929 |
turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:55:36am |
re: #905 phoenixgirl
Had a friend who lived on his sail boat in SF when the Loma Preita quake hit. He was standing on his dock looking across the harbor just before the quake hit. He said all the fish jumped out of the water at the same time. He thought it was the weirdest thing he ever saw, and then the shock came. Obviously the fish were more sensitive to vibration and could sense the high frequencies that precede the jolt. BTW, I've lived in California my whole life and have been through quite a few quakes.
| 930 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:55:40am |
re: #884 Dustyvet
Add my all time personal favorite (to the dismay of co-workers, usually)
Nothing can stop us now!
| 931 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:55:57am |
re: #841 Kenneth
NO, FIFTY - February 2nd, 1959. The day the music died. Geebus, Holly was 22 and Valens just 17 when that plane crashed in Clear Lake, Iowa.
| 932 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:56:13am |
re: #918 vapig
Alexandria, Virginia? I live in Alexandria, Virginia and didn't feel a thing. However, as a native Californian nothing lower than 4.0 would even catch my attention. A truck driving by causes more of a shake-up than a 2.0!
Well, 'Jim in Virginia', alegrias and I are talking about a little meet-up in a month or 2 - probably at my house (as long as you don't mind beagles) - nic is blue - drop a line and I'll keep you in the loop.
Any other NoVA lizards out there?
| 933 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:57:12am |
re: #912 wahabicorridor
We had an earthquake here a few months ago - (Sept, Oct)! It was 2 on the richter scale. We're in Alexandria, btw. We didn't know what it was - thought somebody was blasting somewhere -
I remember several years ago there was a 3 pointer that hit here (Northern Virginia) - the hooplah was incredible. I remember calling a friend of mine (from my hometown in California who miraculously ended up living in a town some 5 miles away) and telling her to turn on the tv. She asked what channel, and I said, "doesn't matter - it's on every channel." When she saw the "BREAKING NEWS!" and what it was about we had a pretty good laugh over it. Neither one of us had felt a thing!
| 934 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:57:32am |
re: #927 MandyManners
I wonder how much multple pregnancies contributed to her unhappiness. Did she want all of them?
He has never said and I would not dream of asking.
| 935 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:57:33am |
re: #916 acwgusa
The U.S. Government is being run by people who have the worldview of children.
Their understanding of how to create economic growth is about at that level, too.
.....if we just sod the national square, then the economy will improve because there will be more cool places to play fisbee!
| 936 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:57:37am |
The One is going to give some remarks about a "middle-class task force" ...what in the ...is that? ...
| 937 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:58:40am |
re: #936 JacksonTn
The One is going to give some remarks about a "middle-class task force" ...what in the ...is that? ...
Check your bank account later today...:)
| 938 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:58:42am |
| 939 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:59:14am |
re: #934 wahabicorridor
He has never said and I would not dream of asking.
Oh, I wouldn't dream of asking, either. I was just speculating.
| 940 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:59:17am |
re: #925 Iron Fist
Yes, if the government runs health care, good-bye to research, unless the Feds pay directly for it. Biotech? Bio-bye. Very expensive.
Right now, the world is getting the benefit of pharmaceutical research, and the US patients are paying for it. The government won't.
| 941 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:59:19am |
re: #859 yma o hyd
Meanwhile in Gaza, Gazans get aid, blame Hamas for situation
The size of the hand-outs is mind-boggling: 'A Hamas cabinet minister carried a carton stuffed with checks worth nearly $2 million into a Gaza tent camp pitched on the ruins of the Salam neighborhood, close to the Israeli border.'
And of course the UNWRA chief is still blaming Israel for everything ...
The Gazans can't get the money unless they hear Hamas give political speeches, and the money barely covers the damage done. Yet Hamas is handing out crisp $100s. Nice. Where'd they get that money?
| 943 |
Syrah Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:59:30am |
re: #853 MandyManners
Would the lava flow go as far north as Renton?
I doubt it, but I would not want to say it would be impossible. Lava would not be the worst of it. The ash falls and mud flows would be fast and devastating. The lava may not "flow" at all.
| 944 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:59:50am |
re: #925 Iron Fist
This could also directly effect my job. I work for a company that makes an experimental diagnostic test that we hope will one day be a standard of care in the United States (and overseas as well). Our CEO, who is a doctor, believes (and has evidence to support his belief) that our test can save lives.
It costs a lot of money to bring something like this on line. We're funding something like ten clinical trials right now. With more to come once these are done. If the Federal Government socializes medicine, it may no longer be potentially worth the value of what it costs to develop it.
My company is certainly not unique in this. The "evil" pharmaceutical companies support this kind of research on many different drugs. Most of these efforts will end in failure. It is very difficult to bring a new drug to market. The companies have to charge enough for the ones that do pass muster to subsidize the many potential drugs that fail.
The cure for cancer is possibly being tested right now. If you bring in the heavy hand of even more government control of the industry that research may be abandoned.
This hurts all of us, but I don't expect the Democrats will be up front and honest about that...
That, in a nutshell, even though I work for a state agency (Medicaid) is exactly why I push fighting back against government takeover of health care. I've seen first hand what happens when government tries to "help" in the arena of health care.
Government takeover of health care in this country would do exactly what you describe. It would destroy the bio medical research and development industry in this county, a multi-billion dollar industry that employs millions around the globe. It would cripple the nation in almost the same way as another terrorist strike would. Health care socialization must be opposed at all costs, and almost by any means.
| 945 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:00:04am |
| 946 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:00:12am |
Oh, I get it ...more fear ...don't worry I Obama will take care of you ...just let your Daddy take care of it ...geez ...politics of fear ...big time ...
| 947 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:00:37am |
re: #931 realwest
NO, FIFTY - February 2nd, 1959. The day the music died. Geebus, Holly was 22 and Valens just 17 when that plane crashed in Clear Lake, Iowa.
| 948 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:01:12am |
re: #929 turn
Had a friend who lived on his sail boat in SF when the Loma Preita quake hit. He was standing on his dock looking across the harbor just before the quake hit. He said all the fish jumped out of the water at the same time. He thought it was the weirdest thing he ever saw, and then the shock came. Obviously the fish were more sensitive to vibration and could sense the high frequencies that precede the jolt. BTW, I've lived in California my whole life and have been through quite a few quakes.
I was in Palo Alto during the LP. There were "waves" in the asphalt rolling down University Avenue.
Weirdest damn thing I've ever seen.
| 950 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:02:37am |
He is just giving another campaign speech ...same crap ...blah, blah, friggin blah ...
| 952 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:03:10am |
| 953 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:03:27am |
re: #889 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter - good morning to you! Please see my #864 above.
| 954 |
Syrah Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:03:49am |
Well everybody, I am off to work while I still have a job.
We haven't had any layoffs at the company I work for yet, but it is becoming more likely with each passing day. February will be nerve wracking. March could be career changing.
Its getting scary out there.
| 955 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:04:12am |
re: #950 JacksonTn
He is just giving another campaign speech ...same crap ...blah, blah, friggin blah ...
"Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat...blah, blah, blah..."
| 956 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:04:15am |
re: #925 Iron Fist
This could also directly effect my job. I work for a company that makes an experimental diagnostic test that we hope will one day be a standard of care in the United States (and overseas as well). Our CEO, who is a doctor, believes (and has evidence to support his belief) that our test can save lives.
It costs a lot of money to bring something like this on line. We're funding something like ten clinical trials right now. With more to come once these are done. If the Federal Government socializes medicine, it may no longer be potentially worth the value of what it costs to develop it.
My company is certainly not unique in this. The "evil" pharmaceutical companies support this kind of research on many different drugs. Most of these efforts will end in failure. It is very difficult to bring a new drug to market. The companies have to charge enough for the ones that do pass muster to subsidize the many potential drugs that fail.
The cure for cancer is possibly being tested right now. If you bring in the heavy hand of even more government control of the industry that research may be abandoned.
This hurts all of us, but I don't expect the Democrats will be up front and honest about that...
No, I don't either. One of my specialists works with a lot of clinical trials, and while I haven't volunteered for any of them, I've seen a bit more of them than most people. We need these "expensive" trials from this "big pharma" companies in order to improve the chances of survival from serious diseases. You are right; we are on the cusp of breathing through a lot of these things, and the government can only interfere.
| 957 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:04:21am |
re: #941 lawhawk
The Gazans can't get the money unless they hear Hamas give political speeches, and the money barely covers the damage done. Yet Hamas is handing out crisp $100s. Nice. Where'd they get that money?
Most of it from the good old U.S. of A., methinks.
Via UNWRA ... and PB0 has apparently just written another cheque.
(Saw that upthread, somewhere ...)
| 958 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:04:24am |
FOUAD AJAMI had a good piece the other day in the WSJ:
Obama Tells Arabia's Despots They're Safe
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
| 959 |
turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:05:18am |
re: #948 Colonel Panik
I was in Palo Alto during the LP. There were "waves" in the asphalt rolling down University Avenue.
Weirdest damn thing I've ever seen.
Yeah that is a weird sight. When I was in grade school in Sac we were out on the ball field one summer and a pretty good quake hit. I recall looking out over the field and seeing the waves move across the field, just like large ripples on a pond.
| 960 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:05:29am |
re: #955 Dustyvet
"Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat...blah, blah, blah..."
"Aw, that trick never works."
| 961 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:05:32am |
re: #957 yma o hyd
Most of it from the good old U.S. of A., methinks.
Via UNWRA ... and PB0 has apparently just written another cheque.(Saw that upthread, somewhere ...)
More US Money going to Palestinians and NGO's which support Hamas:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 962 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:05:49am |
This is just a Pro-union speech ...check them off the list of paybacks for their support ...
| 963 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:06:16am |
| 966 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:08:27am |
| 967 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:08:27am |
Oh, crap ...Joe Biden is heading the task force ...all they are talking about is organized labor ...
| 968 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:08:31am |
Well just look at this.
I go away for a few weeks and you KIDS trash the lizard chamber!
Morning all. (-:
| 969 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:08:37am |
re: #932 wahabicorridor
Well, 'Jim in Virginia', alegrias and I are talking about a little meet-up in a month or 2 - probably at my house (as long as you don't mind beagles) - nic is blue - drop a line and I'll keep you in the loop.
Any other NoVA lizards out there?
Sounds wonderful! I just sent you an email!
| 972 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:08:58am |
re: #885 realwest
Just as Mayor Bloomber calls for cuts in Police and Firefighters too!
Why the hell do people keep voting for this idjit?
The same reason that they do it for all the other political critters around the country. Habit and that they're the evil of two lessers (or in the case of many one-party towns, the evil of no choice).
| 974 |
opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:09:07am |
re: #931 realwest
NO, FIFTY - February 2nd, 1959. The day the music died. Geebus, Holly was 22 and Valens just 17 when that plane crashed in Clear Lake, Iowa.
Bye, Bye Miss Americn Pie.
| 975 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:09:18am |
re: #966 DeafDog
Silly billy! Kenneth and I are buds...that why I am like NO WAAAAAY, you know?
| 976 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:09:27am |
re: #963 DeafDog
Hi-Ho! Hi-ho!
Doc, Dopy, Grumpy, Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John...Diving under desk...
| 978 |
turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:09:45am |
re: #948 Colonel Panik
I was in Sac when the LP hit. You know what? I didn't even feel that one. I was in the backyard throwing the Frisbee for my Shepard and I remember hearing the water sloshing out of the pools that my two neighbors had. I thought to myself that's weird, someone dove into the pools at the same time and I didn't even hear voices before hand. The turnwife was watching TV inside and yelled out to me shortly thereafter that a huge quake had hit SF. The ones that really jolt my house come from the Sierras.
| 980 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:09:56am |
re: #961 MJ
More US Money going to Palestinians and NGO's which support Hamas:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Thanks - it was your post, which you've linked, that I remembered.
Compare and contrast with the general outcry of the 'concerned' about this:
Zimbabwe cholera cases top 60,000
Has PB0 signed any cheques for that?
If not - why not?
Because enabling the hamassholes to buy more Grads and Fajr missiles from Iran is more ... humanitarian?
///
| 981 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:10:00am |
Why do we need a "task force on working families"? Why not reduce their taxes?
| 982 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:10:30am |
re: #976 Dustyvet
Doc, Dopy, Grumpy, Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John...Diving under desk...
Donner, Blitzen, Comet and Cupid, Larry, Moe, Curly...
| 984 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:10:38am |
re: #967 JacksonTn
Oh, crap ...Joe Biden is heading the task force ...all they are talking about is organized labor ...
Spread the Wealth = Share the Misery
| 985 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:10:44am |
re: #981 MandyManners
Why do we need a "task force on working families"? Why not reduce their taxes?
Mandy ...we don't ...it is just a way to get the unions in ...big time ...
| 987 |
Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:11:05am |
re: #812 vxbush
My middle sister had a hard time a few years ago; a couple moved in and the pit bulls kept escaping and biting neighbors. When she went to talk to them, she got a feeling they were running a puppy mill out of there house. I think that couple has since moved out, but it was pretty scary there for a while. You couldn't go walking in the neighborhood without having a stick or something handy in case one of the dogs came by.
My neighbors keep the pit bulls pretty much under control. It's the fucking little hairball that runs loose and shits everywhere and yap-yap-yaps all night long.
| 988 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:11:11am |
Now, I wonder if he was operating alone or at the direction of anyone else. I guess the investigators will have to figure that out; the report doesn't say anything about others implicated so far.
| 989 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:11:16am |
| 992 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:11:24am |
re: #981 MandyManners
There you go, talking sense again and stuff. OFF TO RE-EDUCATION CAMP FOR YOU.
| 993 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:11:50am |
So organized labor is welcome in the White House but lobbyists are not?
Oh, I forgot, they're friends.
"Here's how I'm gonna keep Joe occupied..."
| 994 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:11:55am |
Whose gonna' pay for the task force? The implementation of their reccommendations?
| 995 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:12:08am |
re: #991 Sheepdogess
Click the "Show email" box just under your username under the comment box.
| 996 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:12:23am |
re: #980 yma o hyd
No, no word about Zimbabwe, but there is what appears to be a sliver of good news - Tsvingirai has agreed to form a government with Mugabe. I'm dubious that it will lead to the improvements needed now, but it might get foreign aid flowing.
| 998 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:12:25am |
| 999 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:12:38am |
re: #985 JacksonTn
Mandy ...we don't ...it is just a way to get the unions in ...big time ...
What are they gonna' do? Unionize EVERYONE?
| 1000 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:12:56am |
re: #993 Bumr50
So organized labor is welcome in the White House but lobbyists are not?
Oh, I forgot, they're friends."Here's how I'm gonna keep Joe occupied..."
Bumr50 ...no lobbyists ...well, unless it is one The One wants ...he already broke that promise of no lobbyists ...
| 1002 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:00am |
re: #987 Alouette
It's the fucking little hairball that runs loose and shits everywhere and yap-yap-yaps all night long
The wife or the husband?
| 1003 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:02am |
re: #998 acwgusa
Or the law firm of Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe.
| 1004 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:05am |
re: #947 Dustyvet Thanks Dusty (and Kenneth above)! I KNOW you're old enough to remember! LOL!
BTW - theres a web site somewhere that has the lyrics to a gadzillion songs printed on it, do you happen to know where it is? I gotta explain the meaning of American Pie to a friend soon and while I do know - having lived through it - what it means in a general sense, want to be able to "break it down" for her.
| 1005 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:09am |
"And so with this executive order I appoint a professor with absolutely no work experience outside of an insular, university setting." - Joe
| 1006 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:15am |
BBC Hamas accused of torture death of Gaza critic
When terrorists from one group, torture supporters of another terrorist group, does it make a sound?
| 1007 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:24am |
re: #992 WriterMom
There you go, talking sense again and stuff. OFF TO RE-EDUCATION CAMP FOR YOU.
Fucking Commie bastards.
| 1008 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:25am |
re: #994 MandyManners
Whose gonna' pay for the task force? The implementation of their reccommendations?
What sort of question is that, Mandy?
You know very well that it'll be you who'll be paying, dontcha!
| 1009 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:29am |
For some reason this video was ignored by the msm:
President Bush and Laura Bush made their first public appearance since leaving Washington at a Baylor women's basketball game.
The Crowd Roared for the Texas Couple
Of course, if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a week.
| 1010 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:29am |
re: #999 MandyManners
What are they gonna' do? Unionize EVERYONE?
They would like to ...no doubt about it ...
| 1011 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:32am |
re: #998 acwgusa
Earth, Wind, and Fire, with Crosby, Stills, and Nash.
Special guests Coheed & Cambria, Medeski Martin & Wood, Loggins & Messina, and Seals & Crofts
| 1012 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:13:40am |
re: #999 MandyManners
What are they gonna' do? Unionize EVERYONE?
Please, please don't give them any ideas. They're dumb enough to follow that one.
| 1014 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:05am |
re: #1006 Ben Hur
Here's the sound: MAY BOTH FORCES BE VICTORIOUS TILL DEATH
| 1015 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:07am |
re: #997 WriterMom
YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU
I'd love to go off the grid. If only northern Idaho were not so northern.
| 1016 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:28am |
re: #1003 lawhawk
Or the law firm of Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe.
They're at a Squire dance.
| 1017 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:32am |
re: #967 JacksonTn
Oh, crap ...Joe Biden is heading the task force ...all they are talking about is organized labor ...
And the markets move lower.
/coincidence?
| 1018 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:34am |
re: #1003 lawhawk
Or the law firm of Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe.
Any relation to Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe?
| 1019 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:37am |
| 1020 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:38am |
"Because placing ALL of these burdens on either your employer or the government is gonna strengthen this economy."
| 1021 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:46am |
re: #998 acwgusa
Earth, Wind, and Fire, with Crosby, Stills, and Nash.
Ahhhhhh, the good OLD days. (-:
| 1022 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:14:58am |
re: #1004 realwest
just google "lyrics American Pie", or whatever song you want, and you will find it.
| 1023 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:15:22am |
re: #991 Sheepdogess
How do I change My NIC to blue?
check the "show my e-mail" icon above the comment box.
(bet I'm the 10th person to answer?)
| 1024 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:15:25am |
re: #996 lawhawk
No, no word about Zimbabwe, but there is what appears to be a sliver of good news - Tsvingirai has agreed to form a government with Mugabe. I'm dubious that it will lead to the improvements needed now, but it might get foreign aid flowing.
They've been in 'negotiations' about that since last summer.
Must be a lot of arm-twisting going on - and I mean that literally.
Members of his party have been and are being tortured by Mugabe's henchmen all the time.
| 1026 |
redstateredneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:15:53am |
re: #1011 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Special guests Coheed & Cambria, Medeski Martin & Wood, Loggins & Messina, and Seals & Crofts
Dino, Desi, & Billy?
(that's a thread killer, right there)
Good Morning, {all y'all}.
| 1027 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:01am |
| 1028 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:07am |
re: #1008 yma o hyd
What sort of question is that, Mandy?
You know very well that it'll be you who'll be paying, dontcha!
The middle class is gonna' be hit, as well as the upper-middle class. Why not cut out the middle-man and just reduce our taxes?
| 1029 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:08am |
re: #993 Bumr50
So organized labor is welcome in the White House but lobbyists are not?
Oh, I forgot, they're friends."Here's how I'm gonna keep Joe occupied..."
Just like Organized Crime--urh--I mean labor is immune from McCain-Feingold.
| 1030 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:20am |
re: #994 MandyManners
Whose gonna' pay for the task force? The implementation of their reccommendations?
That's a rhetorical question, right? How much money do you have in your wallet?
| 1031 |
Digital Display Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:20am |
Good Morning Lizards! TGIF..
How is everyone this fine day?
| 1032 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:31am |
re: #1011 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Special guests Coheed & Cambria, Medeski Martin & Wood, Loggins & Messina, and Seals & Crofts
Laurel and Hardy, Penn and Teller?
| 1033 |
Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:37am |
re: #1019 MandyManners
Naw, just throwing out an odd comment here and there. That's not until June, let's not rush it too much...
SKIMMING
VICTIM,
R
| 1034 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:37am |
re: #994 MandyManners
OT - Mandy, did you see my video link I gave you for Ween's "Piss up a Rope?" I suspect you probably know the song and/or the video, but I just wanted to pass on the link just in case you've never seen it. I posted it up thread some where.
| 1035 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:44am |
| 1036 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:53am |
re: #1011 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Special guests Coheed & Cambria, Medeski Martin & Wood, Loggins & Messina, and Seals & Crofts
don't forget The Captain & Tennile
| 1037 |
Bobblehead Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:16:58am |
re: #1009 Kenneth
For some reason this video was ignored by the msm:
President Bush and Laura Bush made their first public appearance since leaving Washington at a Baylor women's basketball game.
The Crowd Roared for the Texas Couple
Of course, if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a week.
I thought Pres. Bush looked exhausted. I know Laura will take good care of him but I worry.
| 1038 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:17am |
re: #1012 acwgusa
Please, please don't give them any ideas. They're dumb enough to follow that one.
Hard to unionize the unwilling.
| 1039 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:18am |
re: #962 JacksonTn
Somehow I don't see the UAW feeling that they're getting their money's worth from Obama though; when one or two of the biggest auto companies in the US goes under, and drags all those workers with it (which WILL happen if states are allowed to set their own emission standards and compliance dates) methinks the UAW will no longer be quite so happy with the new President. Not to mention when States and Cities have to lay off union teachers, cops and firemen.
| 1040 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:28am |
| 1041 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:34am |
re: #1001 Render
46.
It wasn't a very good year.
LAST
IN
LINE,
R
Well, it beats the alternative! Happy Birthday.
| 1042 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:40am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
Why not cut out the middle-man and just reduce our taxes?
Because lefty loooooooooves committees and big government. Lefty wants to tell you how to spend your money, not let you accumulate more to do whatever you damned well please with it.
| 1043 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:45am |
re: #1035 MandyManners
Government cannot force it.
You mean pre-Obama government or the new Obama Government? ...they are sure as heck gonna try ...
| 1044 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:46am |
| 1045 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:17:55am |
re: #1037 Bobblehead
I thought Pres. Bush looked exhausted. I know Laura will take good care of him but I worry.
He'll rejuvenate fast now that he is out of that rat's nest they call Washington DC.
| 1046 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:18:12am |
The California woman who gave birth to octuplets earlier this week has six other kids and never expected to have eight more when she took fertility treatment, her mother said.
Angela Suleman said her daughter expects a big challenge raising 14 children - but that the good news is that all the babies are healthy.
"I looked at those babies. They are so tiny and so beautiful," Suleman told The Los Angeles Times on Thursday.
At birth, the infants ranged in weight between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces.
Suleman's daughter gave birth to the octuplets on Monday at a Los Angeles-area hospital, but has requested that doctors keep her name confidential.
Little was known about the woman until a family friend told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday that the mother is "fairly young" and lives with her parents and six other children.
The woman's other kids range in age from seven to two.
Making matter worse, Suleman said her daughter had embryos implanted last year, and after finding out she was pregnant with multiple babies was given the option by doctors of selectively reducing the number of embryos.
Suleman said her daughter declined.
"Fairly young" single mother of six living at home given fertility treatments?
Revoke their license!
| 1047 |
Bobblehead Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:18:26am |
re: #1031 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards! TGIF..
How is everyone this fine day?
More snow here in Ohio. Ain't global warming great?
| 1048 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:18:34am |
| 1049 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:18:58am |
re: #978 turn
I was in Sac when the LP hit. You know what? I didn't even feel that one. I was in the backyard throwing the Frisbee for my Shepard and I remember hearing the water sloshing out of the pools that my two neighbors had. I thought to myself that's weird, someone dove into the pools at the same time and I didn't even hear voices before hand. The turnwife was watching TV inside and yelled out to me shortly thereafter that a huge quake had hit SF. The ones that really jolt my house come from the Sierras.
I was still in California when LP hit. A real attention getter. I lived in an area that was crisscrossed with faults (One of them being the Hayward fault) and LP activated one of the other faults. So, instead of just the sharp 17 seconds, we ended up with an additional 30 seconds of a rolling 5.8 - still attention worthy. Total quake time - about 47 seconds - which is an eternity when the ground is moving beneath you.
Being home to watch the World Series (SF vs A's - never lost cable) I seriously wondered when the house would start falling down around my head.
| 1050 |
Digital Display Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:19:06am |
re: #1004 realwest
Thanks Dusty (and Kenneth above)! I KNOW you're old enough to remember! LOL!
BTW - theres a web site somewhere that has the lyrics to a gadzillion songs printed on it, do you happen to know where it is? I gotta explain the meaning of American Pie to a friend soon and while I do know - having lived through it - what it means in a general sense, want to be able to "break it down" for her.
Here ya go RW:
[Link: www.rareexception.com...]
| 1051 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:19:15am |
Hey, just wait until they pass Card Check.
/stronger unions, doing for your local grocery store what they've done for the auto industry
| 1052 |
JacksonTn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:19:28am |
re: #1039 realwest
Somehow I don't see the UAW feeling that they're getting their money's worth from Obama though; when one or two of the biggest auto companies in the US goes under, and drags all those workers with it (which WILL happen if states are allowed to set their own emission standards and compliance dates) methinks the UAW will no longer be quite so happy with the new President. Not to mention when States and Cities have to lay off union teachers, cops and firemen.
I sure hope you are right RW ...
| 1053 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:19:53am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
The middle class is gonna' be hit, as well as the upper-middle class. Why not cut out the middle-man and just reduce our taxes?
What - and make all those moonbats jobless?
The middle class will be squeezed, thats always been the tactic of communist regimes.
The true rich have either fled (because they had the means) or are in with the commies, so they're always ok.
Keeping the middle classes worried, squeezed and frightened means they'll be cowed and won't revolt.
Simple.
| 1054 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:19:57am |
re: #1039 realwest
Somehow I don't see the UAW feeling that they're getting their money's worth from Obama though; when one or two of the biggest auto companies in the US goes under, and drags all those workers with it (which WILL happen if states are allowed to set their own emission standards and compliance dates) methinks the UAW will no longer be quite so happy with the new President. Not to mention when States and Cities have to lay off union teachers, cops and firemen.
BTW - Kudos to Ford for not taking the government bailout money.
Don't by GM. Buy Ford.
| 1055 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:14am |
re: #1025 Bumr50
OOH.. a link. astrongmiddleclass.gov.
“Green Jobs: A Pathway to a Strong Middle Class.”
Putting our money behind a select industry under the guise of helping the middle class.
What's next? Transfering our money to that industry for the chillllllldreennnnnnnnnnnnnnn?
| 1056 |
redstateredneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:21am |
| 1057 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:21am |
re: #1009 Kenneth
For some reason this video was ignored by the msm:
President Bush and Laura Bush made their first public appearance since leaving Washington at a Baylor women's basketball game.
The Crowd Roared for the Texas Couple
Of course, if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a
weekmonth.
Fixed
| 1058 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:22am |
Did Obama say that conflict between business and organized labor was..."the old way"?
Is he, like, Jeannie or something?Is it magically gone now? There's no rainbow shooting out of my rear-end.
I guess I'm one of those cynics whose "time will come."
What arrogance.
| 1059 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:30am |
re: #981 MandyManners
Why do we need a "task force on working families"? Why not reduce their taxes?
Because that would reduce the number of jobs created, silly.
We need their taxes to pay for the jobs created.
/Pelosi mode off ...
| 1060 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:50am |
re: #988 lawhawk
Now, I wonder if he was operating alone or at the direction of anyone else. I guess the investigators will have to figure that out; the report doesn't say anything about others implicated so far.
I saw that story earlier this morning. In the last Unix environment I worked in, TWO people had to share admin privleges. Neither of them knew the whole password. One knew the characters in the odd numbered positions, the other the even.
I also don't know that the tech details are accurate - 'zero' is not NULL - which, if memery serves is what a very particular unix command that wipes out everything produces. And no, I'm not telling you what it is.
| 1061 |
Digital Display Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:20:55am |
re: #1047 Bobblehead
More snow here in Ohio. Ain't global warming great?
Yup..We are getting big storms monday and tuesday again..
| 1062 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:21:13am |
re: #1030 DeafDog
That's a rhetorical question, right? How much money do you have in your wallet?
Yes, it was rhetorical. I'm not shocked. I'm pissed. I knew this shit was coming.
| 1063 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:21:13am |
Liberal view of Bush:
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Reality of Obama and Democratically controlled House:
Government gets rich and everyone else gets poor.
Good morning, Lizards.
| 1064 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:21:15am |
re: #1037 Bobblehead
I pray he lives a long and healthy life. His vision of a free & democratic Iraq, in the heart of the dysfunctional Arab world will survive and flourish. I want him to see the day when his legacy will be vindicated.
| 1065 |
Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:21:16am |
re: #1041 Walter L. Newton
Nonono...rats. It's not my birthday...
I was skimming, thought there was a random call for ages, took a shot at comment #1000.
MISFIRED
MISS,
R
| 1066 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:21:30am |
re: #1047 Bobblehead
Here in Pittsburgh too.
The forecast has been wrong going on a week now, but I think I'll just take their word on what's going to happen over the next few centuries...
///////
| 1067 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:22:07am |
re: #1017 Killian Bundy
And the markets move lower.
/coincidence?
Obama wants the economy to sink, and cheers it along. He and his cohorts want to nationalize America's banks...(that way they'd have an infiinite amount of monies for family, friends, cronies and hangers-on -- just like any other Thug in Chief of a Socialist Republic).
| 1068 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:22:21am |
re: #1034 Walter L. Newton
OT - Mandy, did you see my video link I gave you for Ween's "Piss up a Rope?" I suspect you probably know the song and/or the video, but I just wanted to pass on the link just in case you've never seen it. I posted it up thread some where.
I posted a reply to the effect that I'd never seen it. I found it amusing until the bit about "knees".
| 1069 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:22:39am |
re: #1046 Ben Hur
"Fairly young" single mother of six living at home given fertility treatments?
I don't see the word 'single' in there.
| 1070 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:23:03am |
re: #1046 Ben Hur
We talked about it upthread. WEIRD story, many WEIRD details coming out.
| 1071 |
turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:23:05am |
re: #1049 vapig
Wow, now that would be scary. LP took out my aunt's house in Watsonville, shook it right off the foundation with her inside. She was ok but really shaken up (no pun intended).
| 1072 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:23:25am |
7:37 France: Israel blocked attempt to get water purification station into Gaza (Reuters)
Ah piss on Gaza
| 1073 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:23:25am |
Good morning lizards. I'm glad to be back on a normal speed computer.
Nancy didn't drain the swamp like she promised. /oh yeah - democrats are allowed to be corrupt and crooked.
| 1074 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:23:36am |
re: #971 Iron Fist
Yeah, that's a distinct possibility, but I do have one nit to pick: someone out here, who is in the pharma business, stated unequivocally that the HUGE Pharma companies spend almost twice as much on advertising new PRESCRIPTION DRUGS to the Public as they spend on research and development - huge change from just 15 years or so ago. Also had a link to what Phama companies spend their money on.
Executive "compensation" came in right after R&D.
And I know from my own experiences with Medicare, that they DON'T pay doctors or pharmacies anything CLOSE to what uninsured individuals pay - so there is something finite going on that's laid the groundwork for the possibility of the government taking over Medicine in the US - and it's not just folks who are uninsured, it's a general dissatisfaction with the entire system by both patients and caregivers.
| 1075 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:03am |
re: #1042 WriterMom
Because lefty loooooooooves committees and big government. Lefty wants to tell you how to spend your money, not let you accumulate more to do whatever you damned well please with it.
And, the Left seems to love the "process" which involves hiring their academic lap-dogs, the first step in a transfer of wealth.
| 1076 |
filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:06am |
re: #751 wahabicorridor
The piece in today's WSJ noted that one reason Erdogen got pissed off is that the modirator, David Ignatius, had to call a break for dinner and wouldn't allow Erdogan to finish his remarks. Those people leaving with him perhaps were headed for dinner?
It is possible, but not likely because Ignatius had not even finished speaking. Some can not pass an opportunity to display disdain for juice.
| 1077 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:17am |
re: #1060 wahabicorridor
I saw that story earlier this morning. In the last Unix environment I worked in, TWO people had to share admin privleges. Neither of them knew the whole password. One knew the characters in the odd numbered positions, the other the even.
I also don't know that the tech details are accurate - 'zero' is not NULL - which, if memery serves is what a very particular unix command that wipes out everything produces. And no, I'm not telling you what it is.
What am I missing here? What tech details? In the article? I didn't see anything in the article about "zero's" or "null's."
| 1078 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:19am |
re: #1009 Kenneth
For some reason this video was ignored by the msm:
President Bush and Laura Bush made their first public appearance since leaving Washington at a Baylor women's basketball game.
The Crowd Roared for the Texas Couple
Of course, if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a week.
The game was in Waco, Texas.
If they cheered him at a Celtics game, it would've been news.
| 1079 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:36am |
re: #1043 JacksonTn
You mean pre-Obama government or the new Obama Government? ...they are sure as heck gonna try ...
It is impossible to unionize every employee in America.
| 1080 |
avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:36am |
re: #44 chouch
I liked Gitmo closing... I mean, who really needs it.
I didn't think he was going to release all them dudes though. Reminds me of Israel releasing Samir Kuntar so they can trade him for a box of bones :(
If you voted for Obama, you forgot one thing he said. "You can disagree without being disagreeable." LGF is a great place to be a Devil's advocate, or express a different side of the issue. If you come here just to just to make trouble, you'll just be ignored, harden opinions and make real discussion impossible. If you voted for Obama, as I did you may get automatic ding downs, and the occasional insult, but you'll find many will to engage in intellegent debate, if you tone down the rhetoric.
| 1081 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:37am |
re: #1015 MandyManners
I'd love to go off the grid. If only northern Idaho were not so northern.
Coeur d 'Alene Idaho is the one of the most pleasant places I've ever visited.
As an added bonus, our fuel pump failed, so we got extra time there.
| 1082 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:24:57am |
re: #1046 Ben Hur
re: #499 Sheepdogess
Something is fishy about this story. I don't think those people she is living with are her parents. No parent would put up with this kind of behavior. Perhaps this is a plural marriage household and she is the designated breeder. I 'd like to know the name of the doctor who gave her the fertility drugs.
| 1083 |
WriterMom Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:25:00am |
| 1084 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:25:30am |
| 1085 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:25:42am |
re: #968 Dustoff-507
A FEW WEEKS?! WTH, where you been at, anyway? Don't go telling us that Boeing expects you to work, either, cause we know that 's not true!
:)
How are you doing bud?
| 1087 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:25:52am |
re: #1046 Ben Hur
O don't worry about it! Hey, the grandfather will be headed back to Iraq soon, so that'll mean just 2 adults and 14 kids in the 2 or 3 bedroom house...
| 1088 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:25:53am |
| 1089 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:26:06am |
| 1090 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:26:17am |
re: #1068 MandyManners
I posted a reply to the effect that I'd never seen it. I found it amusing until the bit about "knees".
I only watched it through the first chorus. Maybe I should have reviewed it before passing it on. Sorry if I posted something insulting, that wasn't my purpose.
:(
| 1091 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:26:44am |
re: #1084 MandyManners
We beat the hell outta' that horse earlier but, it seems to have gained new life.
Well it probably has 8 lives?
| 1092 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:27:22am |
re: #1053 yma o hyd
What - and make all those moonbats jobless?
The middle class will be squeezed, thats always been the tactic of communist regimes.
The true rich have either fled (because they had the means) or are in with the commies, so they're always ok.
Keeping the middle classes worried, squeezed and frightened means they'll be cowed and won't revolt.
Simple.
1-2-3.
| 1093 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:27:22am |
re: #1079 MandyManners
It is impossible to unionize every employee in America.
And really hard to unionize the folks who don't have jobs. A union for the unemployeed?
| 1094 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:27:27am |
Obama...Let me introduce VP Biden from Scranton, PA....
Biden...Hi, as you know I'm from Scranton, PA.....
Enough with the Scranton, PA B**S***...I don't care where you're from Joe.
WGAFF!
| 1095 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:27:56am |
| 1096 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:28:26am |
re: #1055 MandyManners
“Green Jobs: A Pathway to a Strong Middle Class.”
Putting our money behind a select industry under the guise of helping the middle class.
What's next? Transfering our money to that industry for the chillllllldreennnnnnnnnnnnnnn?
Odd that - since their philosophy is that children are a punishment.
| 1097 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:28:27am |
re: #1058 Bumr50
Did Obama say that conflict between business and organized labor was..."the old way"?
Is he, like, Jeannie or something?Is it magically gone now? There's no rainbow shooting out of my rear-end.
I guess I'm one of those cynics whose "time will come."
What arrogance.
That's Commie talk.
| 1098 |
redstateredneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:28:49am |
re: #1069 wahabicorridor
I don't see the word 'single' in there.
No, not single. I heard on FNC that her husband is a contractor overseas...maybe Iraq? I wasn't really paying attention.
| 1099 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:29:05am |
Judge Leon of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia denied a Guantánamo detainee’s petition for a writ of habeas corpus today. The detainee, Ghaleb Nassar al Bihani, is a citizen of Yemen who has been detained at Guantánamo since January 2002. The Associated Press reported that al Bihani was a mere cook for the Taliban, and suggested that it was on this basis alone that Judge Leon rejected al Bihani’s petition.
Judge Leon did cite al Bihani’s role as a cook as one of the reasons for his continued detention. The judge wrote: “After all, as Napoleon himself was fond of pointing out: ‘an army marches on its stomach.’” However, there is much more to Judge Leon’s decision and al Bihani’s story.
| 1100 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:29:11am |
re: #1059 jwb7605
Because that would reduce the number of jobs created, silly.
We need their taxes to pay for the jobs created.
/Pelosi mode off ...
Fuck Pelosi.
| 1101 |
Macker Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:29:14am |
re: #1095 Dustyvet
You don't want to know what Soylent Yellow is...:)
Or, for that matter, Soylent White....
/EEEEWWWWWW!
F.I.I.F.
| 1102 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:29:26am |
re: #1076 filetandrelease
It is possible, but not likely because Ignatius had not even finished speaking. Some can not pass an opportunity to display disdain for juice.
See my post farther downthread. I found the WSJ link and it quotes Ignatius directly saying 'we can't re-open the debate and people need to get to dinner'.
| 1103 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:29:55am |
re: #1085 realwest
Been chasing the babes, but haven't caught any yet! LOL
| 1104 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:30:08am |
re: #1098 redstateredneck
No, not single. I heard on FNC that her husband is a contractor overseas...maybe Iraq? I wasn't really paying attention.
I heard the husband was "returning to Iraq". I mentally assumed military.
I'm going to fuggedaboutit for a couple of days ... too many conflicting stories.
| 1105 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:30:31am |
| 1106 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:31:06am |
re: #1100 MandyManners
Fuck Pelosi.
She had some funds reserved in the bailout involving that too, you know.
/
| 1107 |
filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:31:24am |
re: #1083 WriterMom
This juice isn't too crazy about that Turk.
Or is it juicess?
Not sure, are you fresh squeezed? : )
| 1108 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:31:32am |
re: #1077 Walter L. Newton
What am I missing here? What tech details? In the article? I didn't see anything in the article about "zero's" or "null's."
| 1109 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:31:35am |
re: #1072 Nevergiveup
7:37 France: Israel blocked attempt to get water purification station into Gaza (Reuters)
Ah piss on Gaza
The purification plant would be stripped and the pipes made into rockets.
Hamas has done that with just about anything else, so why should we expect this to be any different?
| 1110 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:32:11am |
re: #1081 jwb7605
Coeur d 'Alene Idaho is the one of the most pleasant places I've ever visited.
As an added bonus, our fuel pump failed, so we got extra time there.
I dislike cold. At 5'2", 110 lbs., I have a very thin layer of body fat and I don't plan on adding more. I would rather have 95 degrees with 70 per cent humidity than 32 degrees with 30 per cent humidity.
| 1111 |
redstateredneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:32:14am |
re: #1104 jwb7605
I heard the husband was "returning to Iraq". I mentally assumed military.
I'm going to fuggedaboutit for a couple of days ... too many conflicting stories.
Hey, they'll have their own reality show in a couple of weeks and we can share their life with 'em!
| 1112 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:32:18am |
| 1113 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:32:49am |
re: #1110 MandyManners
I dislike cold. At 5'2", 110 lbs., I have a very thin layer of body fat and I don't plan on adding more. I would rather have 95 degrees with 70 per cent humidity than 32 degrees with 30 per cent humidity.
Move to San Diego. (-:
| 1114 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:32:49am |
| 1115 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:33:04am |
| 1116 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:33:16am |
re: #1110 MandyManners
I dislike cold. At 5'2", 110 lbs., I have a very thin layer of body fat and I don't plan on adding more. I would rather have 95 degrees with 70 per cent humidity than 32 degrees with 30 per cent humidity.
Well, you'd be more than happy with the White House thermostat set on Hawaiian temps.
| 1118 |
filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:33:44am |
re: #1102 wahabicorridor
I would like to think you are right, but will settle for some were going to eat, some were showing support for Erdogan.
| 1119 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:33:44am |
re: #988 lawhawk
Well based on this
AP
Feds allege plot to destroy Fannie Mae data
Friday January 30, 10:58 am ET
Feds allege fired Fannie Mae worker planted virus to destroy mortgage company's computer data
URBANA, Md. (AP) -- The Justice Department says it foiled a plot by a fired Fannie Mae contract worker in Maryland to destroy all the data on the mortgage giant's 4,000 computer servers nationwide.
The U.S. Attorney's Office says 35-year-old Rajendrasinh Makwana, of Glen Allen, Va., is scheduled for arraignment Friday in U.S. District Court in Baltimore on one count of computer intrusion.U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein says Makwana was fired Oct. 24.
Rosenstein says that on that day, Makwana programmed a computer with a malicious code that was set to spread throughout the Fannie Mae network and destroy all data this Saturday.
Makwana's federal public defender did not immediately return a call seeking comment
[emphasis added, realwest] my guess would be that he wasn't working alone! Course, that's just a guess based on profiling, which we all know is just wrong.
| 1120 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:33:49am |
re: #1087 J.S.
O don't worry about it! Hey, the grandfather will be headed back to Iraq soon, so that'll mean just 2 adults and 14 kids in the 2 or 3 bedroom house...
The father is the one heading back to Iraq but, one Lizard stated (no link) that the father is a military contractor. So, it'll be three adults (grandparents and mom) and 14 kids in a three-bedroom house.
| 1121 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:34:16am |
| 1122 |
lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:34:41am |
re: #981 MandyManners
Why do we need a "task force on working families"? Why not reduce their taxes?
Why do I have a mental image of a zoo every time I hear that phrase?
Like they're going to go on an expedition to a WalMart or someplace to study these elusive "working families."
| 1123 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:34:54am |
re: #1105 jorline
OK...who left the sock puppet on aisle #44?
Stinky...clean up on aisle #44...stat
I was on late last night when he started, and naturally, I jumped in to welcome him to LFG and offered to show him the front door. He racked up over 100 negative karma point in the course of an hour, that late at night.
Summary
1) He voted for Obama
2) He voted for Franken
3) He supports Israel
4) He hates teenage Muslims
5) He hates Norwegians
6) He's pro-abortion
7) He likes strips clubs in the middle east
8) He can't spell
9) He claims he's from MN.
10) He's a troll
| 1125 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:34:59am |
re: #1088 vapig
My local radio guy is talking about this story right now. Seems said lady lives off the public teet.
Who paid for the embryonic transplantation? The state will not pay for it nor to my knowledge will any insurance company.
| 1126 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:09am |
re: #1092 MandyManners
I think the whole Democrap plan is like Mugabe's - make enough people dependent on the government that they will keep voting for the party in power, because they don't want to lose what they get.
Meanwhile, the country goes down the tubes, although not as fast as Zimbabwe.
| 1127 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:20am |
Ha ha. FoxNews Banner "Some Senators Worry Won't Create Enough Jobs"
Was it Gibbs the other day who, after some pause, blurted out "windmill manufacture"?
| 1128 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:25am |
re: #1114 acwgusa
Tasty, Tasty, people.
Hey! I believe that's a first time I've made a cannibalism joke on LGF! I'm going to pay for that down the line sometime, I'm sure.
| 1129 |
quickredfox Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:30am |
re: #978 turn
Although living in the Bay Area for many years, I've only felt a few smallish ones. For Loma Prieta, we were on vacation in Colorado -- good timing. Came in from a walk and turned on the news, there was something on about an earthquake, but it being the middle of the broadcast it wasn't clear for a moment where it was. But the houses being shown looked a bit familiar. Then they showed the Bay Bridge with a piece hanging down. Eek.
A friend in Menlo Park looked out the window to see all the water jump up out of her little fish pond.
| 1130 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:37am |
Four Jewish brothers left home for college. They became successful doctors, and lawyers and prospered. Some years later, they chatted after having dinner together. They discussed the gifts that they were able to give to their elderly mother who lived far away in another city. The first said, "I had a big house built for Mama." The second said, "I had a hundred thousand dollar theater built in the house." The third said, "I had my Mercedes dealer deliver her an SL600 with chauffeur."
The fourth said, "Listen to this. You know how Mama loved reading the Torah. And you know, too, she can't read anymore because she can't see very well. I met this Rabbi who told me about a parrot that can recite the entire Torah. It took twenty rabbis 12 years to teach him. I had to pledge to contribute $100,000 a year for 20 years to the temple. Let me tell you...it was worth it. All Mama has to do is name a chapter and verse and the parrot will recite it."
The other brothers were impressed.
After the holidays Mom sent out her Thank You notes.
She wrote:
Milton, The house you built is so huge. I live in only one room, but I have to clean the whole house. Thanks anyway.
Marvin, I am too old to travel. I stay home, I have my groceries delivered, so I never use the Mercedes...and the driver you hired is a Nazi. The thought was good. Thanks.
Menachim, You give me an expensive theater with Dolby sound, it could hold 50 people, but all my friends are dead, I've lost my hearing and I'm nearly blind. I'll never use it. Thank you for the gesture just the same.
Dearest Melvin, You were the only son to have the good sense to give a little thought to your gift. The chicken was delicious. Thank you.
| 1131 |
filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:39am |
re: #1110 MandyManners
I dislike cold. At 5'2", 110 lbs., I have a very thin layer of body fat and I don't plan on adding more. I would rather have 95 degrees with 70 per cent humidity than 32 degrees with 30 per cent humidity.
Hey Mandy, can I get you a donut?
| 1132 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:40am |
re: #1090 Walter L. Newton
I only watched it through the first chorus. Maybe I should have reviewed it before passing it on. Sorry if I posted something insulting, that wasn't my purpose.
:(
Oh, no problem. Like I said, the beginning was very amusing.
| 1133 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:35:56am |
Will he or won't he? My guess is that's it's "under review":
Fidel Castro demands Obama return Guantanamo base
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
| 1134 |
vapig Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:36:09am |
Well, I must do some housework. It's been lovely as usual!
TTFN!
| 1135 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:36:19am |
re: #1108 wahabicorridor
Ok, I didn't see that link, I only saw the link that Lawhawk posted, I must be loosing it, I didn't see your link or your references the first time.
Redundant to say, zero is not null.
| 1136 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:36:34am |
re: #1091 Nevergiveup
Well it probably has 8 lives?
Can you imagine how surprised the doctors were to find No. eight when they knew of only seven?
| 1137 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:36:36am |
re: #1118 filetandrelease
I would like to think you are right, but will settle for some were going to eat, some were showing support for Erdogan.
Oh, I'm with you - and I wasn't trying to state anything as fact. It's just that a previous post mentioned some people walked out with Erdogan - having read the WSJ piece, I thought any interpretation of said behavior should be cautious.
| 1138 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:36:51am |
re: #1121 J.S.
First, I believe it's not the father -- it's the grandfather who's headed back to Iraq..."The grandfather, she adds, is apparently going to head back to his native Iraq to earn money for the growing family. " From a CBS article...link here.
Another different story.
My 48 hour rule has kicked in.
| 1139 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:37:13am |
re: #1093 Walter L. Newton
And really hard to unionize the folks who don't have jobs. A union for the unemployeed?
Will the Democrats do away with welfare reform?
| 1140 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:37:26am |
re: #1126 Kosh's Shadow
I think the whole Democrap plan is like Mugabe's - make enough people dependent on the government that they will keep voting for the party in power, because they don't want to lose what they get.
Meanwhile, the country goes down the tubes, although not as fast as Zimbabwe.
I've been saying since last year that Obama is Mugabe Lite™. Same Socialist Taste, Less Filling™
| 1141 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:37:40am |
re: #1127 Bumr50
Ha ha. FoxNews Banner "Some Senators Worry Won't Create Enough Jobs"
Was it Gibbs the other day who, after some pause, blurted out "windmill manufacture"?
I thought the jobs would be stablehands and groomers for the unicorns. Do you know how hard it is to keep the horn nice and shiny?
| 1143 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:37:45am |
re: #1120 MandyManners
Lots of media are reporting that she is a "single mother" -- that would explain why it's the "grandfather" who's headed off to his native Iraq...(unless, of course, there's been some major mess up with translation?)
| 1144 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:37:49am |
re: #1009 Kenneth
"if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a week."
Nope, the lead story woulda been how well the sneaker thrower was recovering from multiple surgeries!
I hear W is really popular in Texas.
| 1145 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:38:00am |
re: #1096 vapig
Odd that - since their philosophy is that children are a punishment.
Maybe not if those kids grow up to become Lefties.
| 1146 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:38:44am |
re: #1141 Kosh's Shadow
I thought the jobs would be stablehands and groomers for the unicorns. Do you know how hard it is to keep the horn nice and shiny?
Unicorn Fluffers!
/Oh NOES!
| 1147 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:38:50am |
re: #1123 Walter L. Newton
I was on late last night when he started, and naturally, I jumped in to welcome him to LFG and offered to show him the front door. He racked up over 100 negative karma point in the course of an hour, that late at night.
Summary
1) He voted for Obama
2) He voted for Franken
3) He supports Israel
4) He hates teenage Muslims
5) He hates Norwegians
6) He's pro-abortion
7) He likes strips clubs in the middle east
8) He can't spell
9) He claims he's from MN.
10) He's a troll
lmao Morning, Walter.
#7 will get your pee pee whacked. Is LGF a three strikes you're out site?
| 1148 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:39:32am |
re: #1141 Kosh's Shadow
Horn shiners have an easily transferrable skill.
| 1149 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:39:41am |
re: #1121 J.S.
First, I believe it's not the father -- it's the grandfather who's headed back to Iraq..."The grandfather, she adds, is apparently going to head back to his native Iraq to earn money for the growing family. " From a CBS article...link here.
Now, read that carefully. He is a native Iraqi, and they are going BACK to Iraq to make money.
We've set up a new and thriving economy there, on our dime, and our people here in the US are loosing jobs right and left.
What's wrong with this picture?
| 1150 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:39:53am |
re: #1133 MJ
Will he or won't he? My guess is that's it's "under review":
Fidel Castro demands Obama return Guantanamo base
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
Maybe we should return the prison part with its current population.
Except Raoul Castro would probably send them direct to the US, by letting some of his criminals escape if they took the terrorists with them.
| 1151 |
VegasRick Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:39:56am |
re: #1136 MandyManners
Can you imagine how surprised the doctors were to find No. eight when they knew of only seven?
I'm thinking "clown car".
| 1152 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:40:06am |
re: #1116 lawhawk
Well, you'd be more than happy with the White House thermostat set on Hawaiian temps.
He didn't take Carter's advice to put on a cardigan.
Unfuckingbelievable. I don't care how high people set their thermostat as long as they pay for it themselves. CBBHO is forcing US to pay for his refusal to PUT ON HIS BIG-BOY PANTS.
| 1153 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:40:25am |
re: #1133 MJ
Will he or won't he? My guess is that's it's "under review":
Fidel Castro demands Obama return Guantanamo base
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
And frankly I think it's a GREAT idea. Raul and Fidel can welcome the jihadis to their workers' socialist paradise in the Caribbean.
/payback for the Marianna boatlift is a bitch
| 1155 |
turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:41:03am |
re: #1129 quickredfox
Yes that was fortunate, any damage to your place when you got back? I have an adobe house with detached garage and as it so happened had just finished painting the inside of the garage the day before LP hit. You should have seen all the cracks it created emanating from every corner of every opening. No worries, adobe appears to just settle right back in.
| 1156 |
Bobblehead Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:41:03am |
Something funny from Andrea Peyser's new book:
FOREWORD: WHAT IS A CELEBUTARD?ce - leb – u – tard (suh – LEB – yu – tard) noun:
1. A famous person with a grandiose notion of his own importance and contribution to the known universe.
2. A human being of sub-par intellect, oversized ego and colossal bank account, whose existence represents a drag on the food chain, waste of oxygen and severe annoyance.
3. An egregious moron. (Origin: from the Latin celebutardus Paris Hiltonus maximum Baldwinus
| 1157 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:41:07am |
re: #1122 lobo91
Why do I have a mental image of a zoo every time I hear that phrase?
Like they're going to go on an expedition to a WalMart or someplace to study these elusive "working families."
I now have an image of an anthropologist studying primitive cultures.
| 1159 |
redstateredneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:41:26am |
| 1161 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:41:32am |
re: #1021 Dustoff-507
HEY! The good OLD days?!? Well, I reckon you'd know!
LOL!
| 1162 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:41:43am |
re: #1147 jorline
lmao Morning, Walter.
#7 will get your pee pee whacked. Is LGF a three strikes you're out site?
What did I say wrong in #7...
7) He likes strips clubs in the middle east
I was passing on something he mentioned, he was talking about sexy woman in some club in the middle east.
Why would Charles strike me out?
| 1163 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:01am |
re: #1126 Kosh's Shadow
I think the whole Democrap plan is like Mugabe's - make enough people dependent on the government that they will keep voting for the party in power, because they don't want to lose what they get.
Meanwhile, the country goes down the tubes, although not as fast as Zimbabwe.
That's my fear, too.
| 1164 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:04am |
re: #1139 MandyManners
Will the Democrats do away with welfare reform?
Welfare has been re-worked. It's now called "A tax cut."
Real tax cuts, however, are a thing of the past.
As economic illiterates - the democrats must fuck everything up. come worship.
/Democrats are unable to cut taxes and stand aside.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:09am |
re: #1149 Walter L. Newton
Now, read that carefully. He is a native Iraqi, and they are going BACK to Iraq to make money.
We've set up a new and thriving economy there, on our dime, and our people here in the US are loosing jobs right and left.
What's wrong with this picture?
The prospect that he'll be sending money back here?
Reverse Mexican principle?
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J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:19am |
re: #1149 Walter L. Newton
Lesson: You go bankrupt in the United States...While you can get rich quick if you return to your native Iraq! All Right! Way to go! Word should spread! Maybe they'll even take the 14 kids back to Iraq!
| 1167 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:23am |
re: #1145 MandyManners
Maybe not if those kids grow up to become Lefties.
Mama's don't let your babies grow up to be leftists
| 1168 |
acwgusa Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:27am |
| 1169 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:41am |
re: #1110 MandyManners
I dislike cold. At 5'2", 110 lbs., I have a very thin layer of body fat and I don't plan on adding more. I would rather have 95 degrees with 70 per cent humidity than 32 degrees with 30 per cent humidity.
Mandy we'll get you Minnesota cold weather gear...Thermals, 2nd set of thermals, wool slacks, 2nd pair of wool slacks, electric socks...insulated boots, two wool shirts, covered with a wool sweater, Snow suit, wool scarf, heavey duty military mittens with wool inserts, wool stocking hat...you'll nice and toasty warm...You won't be able to walk, but you'll be warm...:)
| 1170 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:42:44am |
re: #1031 HoosierHoops
Hey, hi ya Hoops, how are you today?
| 1171 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:43:12am |
re: #1069 wahabicorridor
I don't see the word 'single' in there.
Did you click on the link?
The headline isn't "WTF?"
It's: OCTUPLET-HAVING SINGLE MOM HAS 6 KIDS ALREADY
| 1172 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:43:19am |
re: #1135 Walter L. Newton
Ok, I didn't see that link, I only saw the link that Lawhawk posted, I must be loosing it, I didn't see your link or your references the first time.
Redundant to say, zero is not null.
You're not losing it - I didn't post it - found it in the spinoffs around 5 am.
The other thing - I never could figure out how they managed that split password thing. That place had some kick-ass people who knew the kernal like their middle names.
| 1173 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:43:33am |
re: #1164 FrogMarch
Welfare has been re-worked. It's now called "A tax cut."
Real tax cuts, however, are a thing of the past.
As economic illiterates - the democrats must fuck everything up. come worship./Democrats are unable to cut taxes and stand aside.
Yes, a "refund" to people who don't pay taxes isn't a tax cut, it is redistribution of wealth. Watch the Monty Python "Dennis Moore" sketch to see how that turns out.
| 1174 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:43:44am |
| 1175 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:43:47am |
re: #1160 Iron Fist
Not with the NEA firmly in control of our public schools. I'm sure that was more than a few of their hands clapping after his little speech this morning.
| 1176 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:44:01am |
re: #1009 Kenneth
For some reason this video was ignored by the msm:
President Bush and Laura Bush made their first public appearance since leaving Washington at a Baylor women's basketball game.
The Crowd Roared for the Texas Couple
Of course, if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a week.
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS
| 1177 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:44:38am |
re: #1138 jwb7605
Another different story.
My 48 hour rule has kicked in.
Man, I'm with you................
| 1178 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:44:45am |
re: #1171 Ben Hur
And the Grandaddy's headed back to his native Iraq so as to earn some mullah...
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realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:03am |
re: #1038 MandyManners
"Hard to unionize the unwilling." Not really. Depending on the law of the State you live in, if 51% of the workers vote for a Union, you are now in a Union shop-don't have to go to meetings or anything, but you do have to pay union dues.
| 1181 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:04am |
re: #1176 Colonel Panik
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!
| 1182 |
bulwrk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:13am |
re: #1169 Dustyvet
Mandy we'll get you Minnesota cold weather gear...Thermals, 2nd set of thermals, wool slacks, 2nd pair of wool slacks, electric socks...insulated boots, two wool shirts, covered with a wool sweater, Snow suit, wool scarf, heavey duty military mittens with wool inserts, wool stocking hat...you'll nice and toasty warm...You won't be able to walk, but you'll be warm...:)
I know as soon as I got that all on I'd suddenly have too go to the bathroom.
| 1184 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:32am |
re: #1165 jwb7605
The prospect that he'll be sending money back here?
Reverse Mexican principle?
I don't care, I'm really talking about the principal of the whole thing. That's what is chapping me.
| 1185 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:32am |
re: #1172 wahabicorridor
You're not losing it - I didn't post it - found it in the spinoffs around 5 am.
The other thing - I never could figure out how they managed that split password thing. That place had some kick-ass people who knew the kernal like their middle names.
It must have taken some effort to type. When I was in college, we'd have to pull our jackets over the keyboard so hackers wouldn't watch the password being typed. A few glimpses over several times, and the entire password would get figured out.
| 1186 |
seekeroftruth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:32am |
re: #1139 MandyManners
Will the Democrats do away with welfare reform?
Nope. Stimulus bill brings it back in full force.
| 1187 |
nyc redneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:40am |
re: #1152 MandyManners
He didn't take Carter's advice to put on a cardigan.
Unfuckingbelievable. I don't care how high people set their thermostat as long as they pay for it themselves. CBBHO is forcing US to pay for his refusal to PUT ON HIS BIG-BOY PANTS.
the hypocrisy of the whole thing is what bothers me.
i mean does he want the rest of the world to be ok w/ us.
or not?
| 1189 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:46am |
re: #1143 J.S.
Lots of media are reporting that she is a "single mother" -- that would explain why it's the "grandfather" who's headed off to his native Iraq...(unless, of course, there's been some major mess up with translation?)
Angela Suleman said her daughter expects a big challenge raising 14 children, especially with the husband expected to return to Iraq. The good news, she said, is all the babies appear healthy.
SNIP
| 1190 |
avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:45:50am |
re: #1017 Killian Bundy
And the markets move lower.
/coincidence?
I saw the same drop, it was a "ah shit moment". Anytime you talk about workers making more money even in the context of increased productivity the corporations get the shakes. Toss in a positive comment about unions, and they'll really go nuts. They should added that the unions and the corporations both bear some responsibility for our problems and need to work together. Multi-million dollar bonuses and $75/hour to pop on hub caps are the flip sides of the same coin.
| 1191 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:46:10am |
re: #1171 Ben Hur
Did you click on the link?
The headline isn't "WTF?"
It's: OCTUPLET-HAVING SINGLE MOM HAS 6 KIDS ALREADY
Yeah, I saw it - but nothing in the body. As jwb7605 noted - there has been so much conflicting info out there I don't believe anything for at least 48 hours - and probably longer.
| 1192 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:46:17am |
re: #1182 bulwrk
I know as soon as I got that all on I'd suddenly have too go to the bathroom.
Been there, done that, lost the t-shirt...:)
| 1193 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:46:31am |
re: #1084 MandyManners
We beat the hell outta' that horse earlier but, it seems to have gained new life.
What is this "upthread" you people keep talking about?
HAHAHAH!
| 1194 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:46:45am |
re: #1180 realwest
Hear here! You've Got A Disgruntled Conservative in Pennsylvania!
I worked at a grocery store for $7.50 an hour and was forced to pay into a union.
What's worse is that whatever I signed, they still keep me listed as a member.
| 1195 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:46:47am |
re: #1161 realwest
HEY now... LOL
Leave to a guy who is older than ME! to say something about age. (-:
| 1196 |
Colonel Panik Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:46:54am |
re: #1173 Kosh's Shadow
Yes, a "refund" to people who don't pay taxes isn't a tax cut, it is redistribution of wealth. Watch the Monty Python "Dennis Moore" sketch to see how that turns out.
"Your lupins, please!"
| 1197 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:47:13am |
re: #1183 Iron Fist
Do they really have strip clubs in the middle east? What do they do, parade the woman around in a head scarf pasties and a thong? Maybe they take the halter off of their camel. Or shere their sheep...
I wouldn't put it past the Saudi sheiks to have private rooms with slave women. Seriously. (Why do I envision Jabba the Hut with Leia in her slave outfit?)
| 1198 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:47:57am |
re: #1162 Walter L. Newton
I was passing on something he mentioned, he was talking about sexy woman in some club in the middle east.
Why would Charles strike me out?
You're fine Walter. The point I was making was the troll could get whacked for liking strip clubs in the middle east...not you.
| 1199 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:48:26am |
re: #1195 Dustoff-507
HEY now... LOL
Leave to a guy who is older than ME! to say something about age. (-:
| 1200 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:48:29am |
re: #1149 Walter L. Newton
Now, read that carefully. He is a native Iraqi, and they are going BACK to Iraq to make money.
We've set up a new and thriving economy there, on our dime, and our people here in the US are loosing jobs right and left.
What's wrong with this picture?
The USA Today link I just posted said "the husband" which has lead many here this morning to assume that it was the mother's husband.
| 1202 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:48:42am |
re: #1172 wahabicorridor
You're not losing it - I didn't post it - found it in the spinoffs around 5 am.
The other thing - I never could figure out how they managed that split password thing. That place had some kick-ass people who knew the kernal like their middle names.
Well, I would imagine you write a little procedure that asks for the password (half of it) then asks for the other half and the procedure combines the character and THEN passes it on to the Kernal.
You wouldn't have to know anything about the kernal.
Then again, there are many ways to duplicate what you mentioned. It could have been one of many.
| 1203 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:49:48am |
re: #1199 Dustyvet
Realwest and I got appraised last week on Antiques Road Show...:)
| 1204 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:49:50am |
re: #1121 J.S.
The grandfather is the father (uncle), except he's not the grandfather at all he's the father of the eight and possibly the six.
Got that?
Like I said in the beginning. Plural, muslim marriage, probably consanguineous.
| 1205 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:50:02am |
re: #1198 jorline
You're fine Walter. The point I was making was the troll could get whacked for liking strip clubs in the middle east...not you.
Oh, sorry, the way I read it was wrong.
| 1206 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:50:02am |
re: #1186 seekeroftruth
It seems like this stimulus plan is a local wardheeler handing out cash--writ very large. The Boss takes care of you, and you take care of him in November.
| 1207 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:50:02am |
re: #1189 MandyManners
The CBS article states: "Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman says the mother is in her mid-thirties and lives with her parents.
There's been no mention of the octuplets' father, Kauffman observes.
The grandfather, she adds, is apparently going to head back to his native Iraq to earn money for the growing family."
who knows? Grandfather, Father, heh, what's the difference?
| 1209 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:50:32am |
re: #1184 Walter L. Newton
I don't care, I'm really talking about the principal of the whole thing. That's what is chapping me.
You're saying that if I accepted a contract job with ... say ... Seagate ... in VietNam or Thailand and sent the money back to my wife that would be wrong on principle?
We philosophically disagree on that, if so.
Several of my nephews-in-law have taken contract positions in Iraq after they were discharged from the military, sent the money back, and I simply don't see what is wrong with that.
| 1210 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:50:52am |
Is it too early to puke?
If not, then read terror apologist Reza Aslan's interview with terrorist supporter Jimmy Carter. It's packed full of the wisdom Carter is known for:
Carter's One Regret
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
| 1211 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:50:56am |
Obama says: "no more ear marks". but the entire stimulus fraud is all pork.
Sad.
| 1212 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:01am |
re: #1173 Kosh's Shadow
Yes, a "refund" to people who don't pay taxes isn't a tax cut, it is redistribution of wealth. Watch the Monty Python "Dennis Moore" sketch to see how that turns out.
Blimey. This redistribution of wealth's trickier than I thought.
| 1215 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:25am |
re: #1094 jorline
Obama...Let me introduce VP Biden from Scranton, PA....
Biden...Hi, as you know I'm from Scranton, PA.....
Enough with the Scranton, PA B**S***...I don't care where you're from Joe.
WGAFF!
Down at Katie's Diner they actually think Biden's from Delaware.
| 1216 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:38am |
re: #1185 Kosh's Shadow
It must have taken some effort to type. When I was in college, we'd have to pull our jackets over the keyboard so hackers wouldn't watch the password being typed. A few glimpses over several times, and the entire password would get figured out.
One thing I did figure out - I think. Every day each pair had ONE character changed in their set - and they never knew what it was until they got to work that day. I never did figure out how they were informed of the change - but I'm pretty sure there was a change.
/couldn't get too obviously curious, but you know how we are............
| 1217 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:38am |
re: #1123 Walter L. Newton
How is Lance these days?
| 1218 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:42am |
re: #1203 Dustyvet
Realwest and I got appraised last week on Antiques Road Show...:)
How much were you discounted for scratches and dents?
:-)
| 1219 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:56am |
| 1220 |
right_wing2 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:59am |
re: #1152 MandyManners
He didn't take Carter's advice to put on a cardigan.
Unfuckingbelievable. I don't care how high people set their thermostat as long as they pay for it themselves. CBBHO is forcing US to pay for his refusal to PUT ON HIS BIG-BOY PANTS.
Didn't the Obamessiah say something about how we're not going to be able to set our thermostats where we want to?
| 1221 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:51:59am |
re: #1208 Iron Fist
Back when I was single I used to post self-censored reports from the strip clubs around here (Tennessee), and if Charles said anything about it, I didn't see it. Some other posters didn't particularly like it, but it's not their blog.
Strip clubs and beer joints, really. Occasionally places that checked your weapon at the door, and issued you a loaner if you didn't have one :-)
Ok, Jorline commented above that he was talking about the troll, not me. And he wasn't talking about the troll getting whacked here for mentioning strip clubs, Jorline was suggesting that the troll could get whacked in the middle east for going to strip clubs.
| 1222 |
VegasRick Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:52:03am |
re: #1204 Sheepdogess
The grandfather is the father (uncle), except he's not the grandfather at all he's the father of the eight and possibly the six.
Got that?
Like I said in the beginning. Plural, muslim marriage, probably consanguineous.
As I said before, someone should explain to the mother the difference between a clown car and a uterus.
| 1223 |
bulwrk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:52:07am |
I thought the President was supposed to hope for a good game and may the best team win.
| 1224 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:52:10am |
re: #1110 MandyManners
I dislike cold. At 5'2", 110 lbs., I have a very thin layer of body fat and I don't plan on adding more. I would rather have 95 degrees with 70 per cent humidity than 32 degrees with 30 per cent humidity.
How YOU doin'?
| 1225 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:52:24am |
re: #1210 MJ
Is it too early to puke?
If not, then read terror apologist Reza Aslan's interview with terrorist supporter Jimmy Carter. It's packed full of the wisdom Carter is known for:
Carter's One Regret
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
I'm not reading it. Is Carter's one regret that he didn't destroy Israel?
| 1226 |
rawmuse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:53:15am |
re: #1203 Dustyvet
Realwest and I got appraised last week on Antiques Road Show...:)
If only you had not refinished yourselves...
| 1227 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:53:23am |
re: #1209 jwb7605
You're saying that if I accepted a contract job with ... say ... Seagate ... in VietNam or Thailand and sent the money back to my wife that would be wrong on principle?
We philosophically disagree on that, if so.
Several of my nephews-in-law have taken contract positions in Iraq after they were discharged from the military, sent the money back, and I simply don't see what is wrong with that.
I don't know what I am saying. Never mind. I understand your point. It's just something about the whole thing that bothers me. Of course it's not wrong.
| 1228 |
quickredfox Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:53:29am |
re: #1116 lawhawk
Well, you'd be more than happy with the White House thermostat set on Hawaiian temps.
But that's different! The rest of us aren't supposed to have our thermostats above 72.
//
| 1230 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:53:42am |
re: #1219 Dustyvet
Not bad brother. Like most of the nation. I'm frezzing my BUTT off. 0-:
| 1231 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:53:57am |
| 1232 |
seekeroftruth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:54:01am |
re: #1206 Who Watches the Watchmen?
It seems like this stimulus plan is a local wardheeler handing out cash--writ very large. The Boss takes care of you, and you take care of him in November.
If you had told me that socialism would come marching in so boldly and open as is in this mess of a bill, I would have said no way could that happen in the USA. I can only hope that the Republicans, the internet, and talk radio will get the word out on exactly what is in this bill.
| 1233 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:54:14am |
re: #1191 wahabicorridor
Yeah, I saw it - but nothing in the body. As jwb7605 noted - there has been so much conflicting info out there I don't believe anything for at least 48 hours - and probably longer.
That's probably wise, actually.
| 1235 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:54:16am |
Good morning Lizards. Hey, it's almost afternoon, for some. And it's probably cocktail hour somewhere in the world.
Here's a great video to enjoy on this great Friday.
| 1236 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:54:36am |
re: #1202 Walter L. Newton
Well, I would imagine you write a little procedure that asks for the password (half of it) then asks for the other half and the procedure combines the character and THEN passes it on to the Kernal.
You wouldn't have to know anything about the kernal.
Then again, there are many ways to duplicate what you mentioned. It could have been one of many.
Gah. I'm trying to remember my Unix - wouldn't you have to interrupt the kernal to preclude the password prompt? (I've been out of the business for going on 6 years)
| 1237 |
MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:54:37am |
re: #1225 Kosh's Shadow
I'm not reading it. Is Carter's one regret that he didn't destroy Israel?
Probably, but he didn't say that. The antisemite did say his one regret was not sending more helicopters to rescue the Iranian hostages. I guess he wanted to kill more US Soldiers.
| 1238 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:54:47am |
re: #1223 bulwrk
I thought the President was supposed to hope for a good game and may the best team win.
I wish people would stop posting this stuff. I am rooting for the Steelers, but all this makes it alot more difficult.
| 1239 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:55:01am |
| 1240 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:55:06am |
re: #1207 J.S.
The CBS article states: "Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman says the mother is in her mid-thirties and lives with her parents.
There's been no mention of the octuplets' father, Kauffman observes.
The grandfather, she adds, is apparently going to head back to his native Iraq to earn money for the growing family."
who knows? Grandfather, Father, heh, what's the difference?
There is no way two people can take care of 14 kids, especially eight newborns. The Goslings had two twins who were about four when Kate had eight. They needed several people to help them out.
| 1241 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:55:21am |
| 1242 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:55:26am |
re: #1050 HoosierHoops
Hey, thanks Hoops - that's the one I was looking for!
I KNOW the lyrics, but was looking for that (sometimes incorrect) interpretation of 'em!
Thanks a lot!
| 1243 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:55:48am |
re: #1204 Sheepdogess
I didn't read you earlier post. But, that would seem to explain it...(although that then leaves lots of questions about the "grandmother" and the mother of the octuplets -- how, exactly are those 2 related, if at all? given that "in reality" we have 2 wives here...)
| 1244 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:56:02am |
re: #1230 Dustoff-507
Not bad brother. Like most of the nation. I'm freezing my BUTT off. 0-:
Well in the part of Illinois I'm in, the sun is shining, no clouds, and it looks great outside, Gee we should impeach a Governor more often...:)
| 1245 |
quickredfox Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:56:35am |
re: #1223 bulwrk
I thought the President was supposed to hope for a good game and may the best team win.
Well like it says at the top of the page -- All Politics, All the Time.
| 1246 |
Bumr50 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:56:55am |
re: #1238 Nevergiveup
I'm in Pittsburgh. I'm sooooooo tired of Arlen Specter.
| 1248 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:57:26am |
re: #1205 Walter L. Newton
Oh, sorry, the way I read it was wrong.
Thanks for the cliff notes on this guy...he sounds like a putz.
| 1250 |
Dustyvet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:57:40am |
re: #1239 Dustoff-507
Now that answer is WRONG in so many ways! LOL
Erotic is using a feather, Kinky is using the whole chicken...:)
| 1251 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:58:33am |
re: #1063 jorline
Good morning jorline! Hope you're doing well today!
| 1252 |
Throbert McGee Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:59:24am |
re: #1095 Dustyvet
You don't want to know what Soylent Yellow is...:)
BURNS: I'm hungry, Smithers.
SMITHERS: Shall we send out for Chinese, sir?
BURNS: Heavens, no -- those people are all gristle.
| 1253 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:59:46am |
re: #1236 wahabicorridor
Gah. I'm trying to remember my Unix - wouldn't you have to interrupt the kernal to preclude the password prompt? (I've been out of the business for going on 6 years)
No, I know nothing about Unix, but I do know you can write scripts (programs) for Unix, so, as a programmer, I can make these assumptions.
Let's say you type "login walt." I'm sure you can customize "walts" login script to, lets say run a script, BEFORE IT PASSES THE PASSWORD TO THE KERNAL.
Combine with what I was saying above, that's seems to me to be one way. I was only jumping in with a possible answer, just based on my 30 years of IT experience. I may be off base.
| 1254 |
Macker Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:00:25am |
re: #1140 Colonel Panik
I've been saying since last year that Obama is Mugabe Lite™. Same Socialist Taste, Less Filling™
Colonel! Where you been, man? I've been trying to get hold of ya, to no avail....
| 1255 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:00:28am |
re: #1244 Dustyvet
HAHAHAHA, I bet the people of Calif would also agree right now. Heck I would love to dump my Gov too.
| 1256 |
quickredfox Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:00:31am |
re: #1169 Dustyvet
.You won't be able to walk, but you'll be warm...:)
I'm picturing the little brother in A Christmas Story . . .
| 1258 |
avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:00:37am |
re: #1097 MandyManners
That's Commie talk.
I could not disagree more that saying that "conflict between business and organized labor was...the old way"? is Commie talk.
Business and labor have to work together to make capitalism work and I have a example. I once worked for Rockwell Standard making bumpers for cars and most of our contract was with Studebaker.
When Studebaker folded, the company had a shot at a GM contract, but had to meet a production deadline and appealed to the union for cooperation. The union decided they had the company over a barrel and pushed for concessions the company could not meet. The end result was we went out on strike, lost the contact and the company folded a year later.
There are many positive examples the other way, the union and management sitting down and working togeater for the betterment of both. If that's Communism, I guess I'm a Commie after all
| 1259 |
Render Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:00:47am |
re: #1240 MandyManners
*
5-2, 110?
===
A doughnut? Warm clothes?
Can I get you a webcam?
TECHNICAL
ECSTASY,
R
| 1260 |
jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:01:44am |
re: #1215 DeafDog
Down at Katie's Diner they actually think Biden's from Delaware.
if I was one of his constants I would be pissed...when was the last time
Biden lived in Scranton?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:01:51am |
re: #1234 Iron Fist
I had my account hacked once when I was in school. I don't recall that they did anything particularly malicious, but they did leave enough evidence around that I knew I'd been hacked.
I once doctored up a dude's login script when I found that he hadn't logged our. That almost got me kicked out. I was the only persion amused by it. No one else (especially the guy whose account I dinked with) had much of a sense of humor about it.
When I was in college, they'd use someone else's account for hacking, so when the "hacker's" account was shut off, it would be some innocent person's. They'd get re-instated after asking, because the students who did the work at the campus computer services were able to tell whether the person knew enough to hack or not.
BTW, this was before the Internet; we ran on a DECsystem-10.
| 1262 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:01:53am |
re: #1250 Dustyvet
Erotic is using a feather, Kinky is using the whole chicken...:)
As a medical professional, do you even think I'm going to touch that? 0-:
| 1263 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:02:25am |
re: #1257 Iron Fist
Ooohhh, OK. I guess that makes sense. I took it to mean banned here. My bad.
Well, so did I, on my first read. I thought Jorline was suggesting I may get banned for mentioning "strip club."
| 1265 |
gregg Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:03:17am |
From the local paper:
"Democratic activists hitting radio with question: Are you with President Obama or Rush Limbaugh?"
What contempt for the general public. You're either for Obama or for Limbaugh, there are no other choices.
| 1266 |
avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:04:02am |
re: #1238 Nevergiveup
I wish people would stop posting this stuff. I am rooting for the Steelers, but all this makes it alot more difficult.
I don't fault the President for picking a favorite, it's only a football game, not a political issue to me.
| 1268 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:04:53am |
Nre: #1243 J.S.
I didn't read you earlier post. But, that would seem to explain it...(although that then leaves lots of questions about the "grandmother" and the mother of the octuplets -- how, exactly are those 2 related, if at all? given that "in reality" we have 2 wives here...)
There is no grandmother and no grandfather. There is a husband, a number one wife (probably infertile, which may explain the crazy decision to do an IVF after already having six children) and a NUMBER TWO WIFE/MOTHER OF THE FOURTEEN CHILDREN).
| 1269 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:05:40am |
re: #994 MandyManners
Whose gonna' pay for the task force? The implementation of their reccommendations?
| 1270 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:06:06am |
re: #1268 Sheepdogess
I just wonder WHO is paying for all of this? So much is missing from this story.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:06:56am |
re: #1253 Walter L. Newton
No, I know nothing about Unix, but I do know you can write scripts (programs) for Unix, so, as a programmer, I can make these assumptions.
Let's say you type "login walt." I'm sure you can customize "walts" login script to, lets say run a script, BEFORE IT PASSES THE PASSWORD TO THE KERNAL.
Combine with what I was saying above, that's seems to me to be one way. I was only jumping in with a possible answer, just based on my 30 years of IT experience. I may be off base.
No, this would be such a big security hole that systems would be wide open.
Also, the system needs to log in BEFORE running any scripts; otherwise, just typing the wrong username would run that person's login script.
Login can be modified to support centralized user management, one-time passwords, biometrics, etc., but that all runs as privileged kernel code. Otherwise, it is too easy to compromise.
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jorline Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:07:47am |
re: #1265 gregg
From the local paper:
"Democratic activists hitting radio with question: Are you with President Obama or Rush Limbaugh?"
What contempt for the general public. You're either for Obama or for Limbaugh, there are no other choices.
Demonize the right. That choice will be taken away soon with the Fairness Doctrine.
| 1273 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:10:07am |
re: #1253 Walter L. Newton
Ok, now this is going to bug me. I AM NOT GOING BACK TO MY BOOKS FOR YOU DAMMIT!
Yeah, I had 30 years in too. I thought I'd miss it. I don't.
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gregg Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:10:13am |
re: #1267 Dustoff-507
I'm with RUSH.... LOL
Just to be clear, I have no problem with Rush. It's the stunning contempt the Democrats have for the intelligence of the general public to suggest that those are the only choices.
| 1276 |
Karagush Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:12:13am |
re: woman with litter of kids who too fertility drug (probably) and who has Turkish name....
Ok I am totally late to this discussion but i wanted to jump in.
I actually KNOW someone in a plural marriage, who married one woman, and then they ADOPTED wife#2. They are her "parents."
Its not far fetched.
if i saw it happen its not like with all the people in the US gettin ideas about how to make things work, it couldnt happen again.
But if thats what happened, its weird. The people i know, tho i love em, are what you guys would definitely call weird.
| 1277 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:13:04am |
re: #1266 avanti
I don't fault the President for picking a favorite, it's only a football game, not a political issue to me.
Well, Condi Rice pissed me off. She's rooting for the Cards 'because 5 [Superbowl wins for the Steelers] is enough".
So now we got a quota system?
Tell it to the Yankees.
| 1278 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:13:13am |
re: #1274 gregg
It's simple.. The dem's don't not want to be questioned on anything. That's why they are after Rush.
| 1279 |
Throbert McGee Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:13:24am |
Erotic is using a feather, Kinky is using the whole chicken...:)
I've usually heard it phrased as:
Q. What's the difference between "kinky" and "perverted"?
A. "Kinky" is using a feather...
(And in John Waters' Pink Flamingos, by the way, they actually do use a whole chicken -- in many ways it's a lot grosser than the dog-poop scene everyone remembers.)
| 1281 |
Dustoff-507 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:14:24am |
Ok you great people. I have to go.
Have a great Friday and a wonderful weekend.
C-YA
| 1282 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:15:31am |
re: #1271 Kosh's Shadow
Login can be modified to support centralized user management, one-time passwords, biometrics, etc., but that all runs as privileged kernel code. Otherwise, it is too easy to compromise.
thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou.
/too soon for my dotage
| 1283 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:17:56am |
re: #1268 Sheepdogess
Yes, once again, from my previous post: "given that 'in reality' we have 2 wives here. The MSM, however, is still using the circumlocution, of "Grandfather" and "Single Mother" and "Father unaccounted for" -- that's how the MSM covers up the (presumed) bigamy...
| 1284 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:21:13am |
re: #1203 Dustyvet
'Tis true, we did. And you only got $1.98, while I got
$2.25! Thbbpth!
| 1285 |
Digital Display Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:25:18am |
re: #1221 Walter L. Newton
Ok, Jorline commented above that he was talking about the troll, not me. And he wasn't talking about the troll getting whacked here for mentioning strip clubs, Jorline was suggesting that the troll could get whacked in the middle east for going to strip clubs.
We need to send some armed BasketBall players to the middle east.. They don't know what they are missing when that entourage shoots the place up at 3am and steals their womanfolk.
USA! USA! USA!
/
| 1286 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:26:06am |
re: #1208 Iron Fist
"Back when I was single..........." HEY! When didja get married Iron Fist?!?And btw, they were talking about strip clubs and such IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
| 1287 |
Digital Display Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:31:43am |
re: #1271 Kosh's Shadow
No, this would be such a big security hole that systems would be wide open.
Also, the system needs to log in BEFORE running any scripts; otherwise, just typing the wrong username would run that person's login script.
Login can be modified to support centralized user management, one-time passwords, biometrics, etc., but that all runs as privileged kernel code. Otherwise, it is too easy to compromise.
plus you have to shake hands with the Domain Controller to gain access to the network..then DHCP will pass you an IP. And if dot802.x is turned up on the cisco switches then without a Corporate issued Certs on the workstation the port will not turn up on the switch or you can just dump the user on to a guest VLAN..
| 1289 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:35:30am |
re: #1287 HoosierHoops
I don't understand a thing you just said, but nevermind.............
I wanted to ask you - the other day we were having a conversation about Blago and you used the term "Combine Republicans". I've never heard it before, could you explain it please?
| 1290 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:37:10am |
re: #1272 jorline
Nope jorline, the Fairness Doctrine ain't coming back.
| 1291 |
realwest Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:38:44am |
re: #1277 wahabicorridor
Hi {wahabi} - don't tell it to the Yankess or we'll just buy you! LOL!
| 1292 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:42:19am |
re: #1283 J.S.
Yes, once again, from my previous post: "given that 'in reality' we have 2 wives here. The MSM, however, is still using the circumlocution, of "Grandfather" and "Single Mother" and "Father unaccounted for" -- that's how the MSM covers up the (presumed) bigamy...
Yes, bigamy or perhaps INCEST. He may indeed be the grandfather and the father of the children. The only way to know for sure is a DNA test, but "Ed's" Ehe's off to work in Iraq. The Dr. who performed the IVF should be investigated. A lot more here than meets the eye, and don't count on the MSN to get any answers. They don't want to make Islam look bad. If this were a Mormon family they would be all over this.
| 1293 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:49:23am |
re: #1291 realwest
Hi {wahabi} - don't tell it to the Yankess or we'll just buy you! LOL!
You got the money? I got the honey!
| 1294 |
justabill Fri, Jan 30, 2009 10:07:29am |
re: #121 Walter L. Newton
Well, I would have made an exception for you. But that would have been for medical reasons.
Ouch!
| 1295 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 30, 2009 10:49:45am |
re: #1292 Sheepdogess
The Dr. who performed the IVF should be investigated.
I agree -- it's utterly unethical if this woman was given 8 fertilized eggs implanted -- then, given her impoverishment, etc., totally outrageous. And, indeed, there are sooo many other disturbing angles to this story...(and, yeah, DNA tests all around for this little "ménage à trois!")
| 1296 |
chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:01pm |
re: #222 least
I would be willing to bet a large sum that there are very few of us lizards who had any idea that you were throwing out an arabic idiom.
I will also bet another large sum that most lizards (many of whom you got off to a bad start with) assumed that, "that asshat can't even spell."
So I apologize for thinking you couldn't spell "maniac"
No apologies for the other thoughts
uh ok. apology taken?
I just find it hilarious when I"m told I can't spell and that "Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization."
All wrong. All heaped on me because I showed up here and said I voted for Obama.
Well I'm honest. Crucify me with lies then. Either way, I've been here for 2 weeks and am not trolling and am not really fond of people calling me an "idiot" simply because my beliefs don't exactly 100% sync up with theirs.
It is possible to be fiscally conservative and quite liberal on other policies.. and it isn't uncommon.
| 1297 |
chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:49pm |
re: #207 FamHistoryGuy
Idiot druggie husband gave her AIDS. Beautiful woman with an exquisite voice.
THat sucks. Didn't know that bit. R.I.P. Ofra.
| 1298 |
chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:53:10pm |
re: #233 MrPaulRevere
I knew what 'Sharmuta' meant in Arabic before I ever registered at LGF. I never read any deeper meaning into the choice of the nickname. I think its kinda clever actually.
I disagree, it somehow just aggravates me. Its like advertising you hate Muslims. I don't like to embolden them. ... and I don't refrain from using the word.
But I keep it "for special." Just like cusemec.
| 1299 |
chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:58pm |
re: #234 logboy
Hmmmm... we managed to get Chouch down to -104. I was hoping they would stick around so we could ding some more.
Minnesota liberals are the worst. Some of the most arrogant, ignorant, close minded people I have ever had the displeasure of living with. I'm so glad I moved away.
I'm a Minnesota Liberal? That's news to me. Thanks for deciding who I am.
You're a hillbilly. Again, people here have flat out lied to me in order to try and discredit my post. Telling me "CHOUCH, Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization!" is a perfect example.
I am sorry, but you are beneath me.
| 1300 |
chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:56:07pm |
re: #221 Walter L. Newton
His knowledge of current events, election issues and general lack of information on what he was talking about makes me believe there is no way he voted for President or Franken.
Wait, re-reading my paragraph above, I changed my mind. Yes he did vote.
Yes, you caught me. I don't read up on crybabys who lost an election and want to say it was stole from underneath them.
And that was only the Al Gore defeat!
Imagine my concern over your gripes. Waaaaaah somewhere else please. And keep on telling me that "Morning after pills prevent implantation in the Uterine wall not fertilization."
| 1301 |
chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:01:17pm |
re: #273 astronmr20
You are no maniac, chouch,
You just seem to lack basic reasoning skills if you both voted for Obama and support Israel.
You folks truly are some hillbillies. Instead of trying to reform your party and put a fresh face on it.. perhaps through careful scrutuiny and sometimes turning criticisms inward.. you come up with this.
Only Conservatives support Israel? That is all you thousands of monkeys simaltaneously strumming on typewriters came up with?
Hack material and ad hominem attacks. Hey, if you can't find fault in the content.. try (and fail) to attack spelling or something personal that you have no knowledge of.
I must say, I am very disapointed in this self congratualatory circle jerk of hillbilly Orrin Hatchlings.
Isn't Ron Paul a Republican Congressman? Why am I not surprised.
| 1302 |
eaglewingz08 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:19:56pm |
Aren't antisemites Cynthia McKinney and Ellison and Farrakhan and Ayers and Wright, democrats, why aren't I surprised?
Isn't AlGoreacle a gigantic spinning mass of methane and ammonia? Hail Jupiter!
| 1303 |
PamZ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:43:18pm |
re: #1144 realwest
"if some punk had tossed a sneaker at the president, that would have been the lead story. For a week."
Nope, the lead story woulda been how well the sneaker thrower was recovering from multiple surgeries!
I hear W is really popular in Texas.
Bush was the first governor to be reelected in Texas -- so, yeah, we love him!
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