Overnight Open Thread
Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon?
— Dix Handley, The Asphalt Jungle
Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon?
— Dix Handley, The Asphalt Jungle
2 | laZardo Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:31:45pm |
So I was reading that East German Design article and for some reason I am considering giving serious thought to reconsidering my major in industrial design.
Hmm.
3 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:32:00pm |
Hmmm, I like the decor in here. Charle's taste, always good!
4 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:32:54pm |
re: #1 gmsc
You sat lurking. I KNOW it!
Hi GMSC.
How was your day?
5 | MrPaulRevere Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:34:29pm |
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, four time Presidential candidate and grandfather of Newsweek journalist Evan Thomas.
6 | gmsc Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:35:27pm |
re: #4 Floral Giraffe
You sat lurking. I KNOW it!
Hi GMSC.
How was your day?
Great!
I wrapped up my site redesign (well, the 1st major phase, anyway), and it will be going live on Thursday.
I also received my iPod Touch this afternoon, and have been setting it up and playing with it ever since.
9 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:36:05pm |
Careful Lad. Those hands of his are strong enough to crush a boulder. Yet delicate enough to crush a butterfly.
Colnel Gentelman, The Venture Brothers
10 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:36:42pm |
re: #6 gmsc
I will think the Lena Llovitch "new toy" song & not post it.
But, I'm thinking it.
11 | gmsc Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:37:33pm |
re: #10 Floral Giraffe
I will think the Lena Llovitch "new toy" song & not post it.
But, I'm thinking it.
That works.
:)
12 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:37:37pm |
re: #8 gmsc
One whisky, one burbon, one shot, one beer ;)
13 | gmsc Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:39:33pm |
re: #12 Floral Giraffe
One whisky, one burbon, one shot, one beer ;)
So you had a good day too, then.
14 | Macker Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:42:29pm |
Hey do any Lizards play Mafia Wars on Facebook? Send me an e-mail; I'm looking to grow my family!
15 | gmsc Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:43:38pm |
re: #12 Floral Giraffe
One whisky, one burbon, one shot, one beer ;)
Work . . . booze . . . work . . . booze . . .
Which reminds me of HIRED!, put to its best use by Mystery Science Theater 3000:
18 | laZardo Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:45:17pm |
re: #6 gmsc
Everyone and their siblings I know have iPods (or pirated knockoffs thereof) but me. I'm stuck with the MP3 player from that Pussycat Dolls video.
/ ;_;
//the alarm-to-speaker-MP3 is nifty though.
20 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:54:18pm |
re: #19 Floral Giraffe
Girls in the water in bikinis.
No takers?
21 | freetoken Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:55:55pm |
re: #20 Floral Giraffe
The music sort of throws me for a loop.
22 | freetoken Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:56:35pm |
I would have expected something from the Beach Boys!
23 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:56:40pm |
Come out, come out, ruby begonia!
How do your flowers fall?
Heck, I tried!
:)
24 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:57:46pm |
re: #21 freetoken
What kind of loop?
Face plant into the sand,
Or kicking through the wave & on up?
25 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:58:41pm |
Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon?
This was a quote made for an overnight open thread.
26 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:58:58pm |
I'm wasting Charle's bandwidth, talking to myself.
Good night all!
See you soon!
27 | Sharmuta Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:59:40pm |
re: #20 Floral Giraffe
Girls in the water in bikinis.
No takers?
They were all looking for this song
28 | freetoken Tue, Jun 23, 2009 11:59:40pm |
re: #24 Floral Giraffe
More like a tape loop.... had to watch the first part twice to confirm my feeling... I guess C&W just isn't my cup of tea.
29 | gmsc Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, June 24th:
Highlights of this day in history: Start of the Berlin blockade during the early Cold War; Boxing champ Jack Dempsey born; Comedian and actor Jackie Gleason of 'The Honeymooners' fame dies.
Other notable June 24th events include:
1597 – The first Dutch voyage to the East Indies reaches Bantam (on Java).
1664 – The colony of New Jersey is founded.
1793 – The first republican constitution in France is adopted.
1880 – First performance of O Canada, the song that would become the national anthem of Canada, at the Congrès national des Canadiens-Français.
1901 – First exhibition of Pablo Picasso's work opens.
1916 – Mary Pickford becomes the first female film star to get a million dollar contract.
1938 – A 450 metric ton meteorite strikes the earth in an empty field near Chicora, Pennsylvania.
1949 – The first Television Western, Hopalong Cassidy, is aired on NBC starring William Boyd.
1957 – The U.S. Supreme Court rules that obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment in Roth v. United States.
1993 – Yale computer science professor Dr. David Gelernter loses the sight in one eye, the hearing in one ear, and part of his right hand after receiving a mailbomb from the Unabomber.
2004 – In New York, capital punishment is declared unconstitutional.
32 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:02:54am |
Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon?— Dix Handley, The Asphalt Jungle
"Shut up! It's daddy you shithead! Where's my bourbon?" - Frank Booth, Blue Velvet
33 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:06:48am |
re: #30 Sharmuta
Still trying to find something for you and the women ogle... but I've realized I may not be able to separate out the male models intended for female consumption vs. the male models intended for male consumption...
blah :-(
34 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:08:29am |
re: #32 ArchangelMichael
"Shut up! It's daddy you shithead! Where's my bourbon?" - Frank Booth, Blue Velvet
Another quote made for a late night thread. Heh.
35 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:09:28am |
re: #17 gmsc
Yeah, nobody expects you to pull that sort of face when you slip cement shoes on 'em. :3
36 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:10:08am |
re: #33 freetoken
If he's mostly naked and you're jealous, it might be a winner?
37 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:10:10am |
1880 – First performance of O Canada, the song that would become the national anthem of Canada, at the Congrès national des Canadiens-Français.
I'll see your 'O Canada' and raise you a 'Maple Leaf Forever' with bagipes!
38 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:10:49am |
re: #34 iceweasel
Another quote made for a late night thread. Heh.
"If there's one thing I cant stand it's warm beer. It make's me fuckin puke!"
39 | gmsc Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:11:01am |
re: #35 laZardo
Yeah, nobody expects you to pull that sort of face when you slip cement shoes on 'em. :3
I guess that's true . . .
40 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:14:19am |
re: #38 ArchangelMichael
"If there's one thing I cant stand it's warm beer. It make's me fuckin puke!"
Blue Velvet could be a very fertile source of late night thread quotes, but it could get a little creepy after a while....
Raymond: Do you want me to pour it Frank?
Frank Booth: No I want you to fuck it. Shit, yes, pour the fuckin' beer!
42 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:15:44am |
re: #40 iceweasel
Blue Velvet could be a very fertile source of late night thread quotes, but it could get a little creepy after a while....
Raymond: Do you want me to pour it Frank?
Frank Booth: No I want you to fuck it. Shit, yes, pour the fuckin' beer!
It's been a fertile source for samples in techno and industrial music.
43 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:16:48am |
Hee...Nomination for next private thread quote, also from Blue Velvet?
"I'm seeing something that was always hidden. I'm in the middle of a mystery and it's all secret."
Tiny heads would pop like popcorn over that one.
44 | gmsc Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:18:04am |
Hmmm . . .some of the music discussion is going over my head tonight.
I never did follow popular music much after I left high school (and even then...)
45 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:18:42am |
re: #36 Sharmuta
If he's mostly naked and you're jealous, it might be a winner?
Well... I'm not easily jealous, at least for something as fleeting as model-looks. Of Fred Astaire I am jealous.
This Brazilian top model is supposedly considered "hot"... perhaps he will do for you?
46 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:18:42am |
re: #42 ArchangelMichael
It's been a fertile source for samples in techno and industrial music.
Post some! Please?
47 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:20:22am |
re: #14 Macker
Morning Lizards. I just sent you a email Macker.
48 | IslandLibertarian Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:21:31am |
re: #19 Floral Giraffe
I went to high school with those guys (Honk).
49 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:21:58am |
re: #45 freetoken
Well... I'm not easily jealous, at least for something as fleeting as model-looks. Of Fred Astaire I am jealous.
This Brazilian top model is supposedly considered "hot"... perhaps he will do for you?
Maybe. Is he a nice person?
50 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:26:33am |
Freetoken- we could just go with the Beckhams and then there's something for everyone.
Although- I'm pretty sure Posh Beckham doesn't know how to smile.
51 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:26:57am |
Fenway's (sort of) Nightly precious metals update-
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Platinum- $1167 an ounce (up 0.69%)
Rhodium- $1225 an ounce (down 4%)
52 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:28:09am |
re: #49 Sharmuta
Maybe. Is he a nice person?
One of the world's top models, rich, famous, sought after by everyone...
And you are worried if he is a "nice person"?
/ ☺
53 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:33:42am |
re: #52 freetoken
One of the world's top models, rich, famous, sought after by everyone...
And you are worried if he is a "nice person"?
/ ☺
Well- sure. Who wants to date an asshole?
55 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:36:37am |
re: #52 freetoken
I dig where Sharmuta is coming from. Looks, wealth, fame, talent, and intellect are kind of meaningless if the person is rotten inside.
I have had a number of very attractive, intelligent, and talented girlfriends (none that were wealthy or famous, though) that turned out to be absolute... well, we're not allowed to use that word here.
One of my first serious girlfriends was a real airhead, but man was she sweet to me. I should have placed more value on her affections than her lack of intellect, but like a fool I let that one get away. I was young.
56 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:37:02am |
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57 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:38:27am |
re: #46 iceweasel
Post some! Please?
The one's I can remember I cant find, the rest I can't remember the track names. It's been 7 years or so since I was a DJ. I vaguely remember some early 90s industrial group in that "guitar industrial" sub-genre I was never really into (outside of KMFDM and Front 242), that nearly the entire track was Frank Booth yelling "Don't you fucking look at me!"
There's a noise/Drum & Bass crossover called Paste that has a track called "I don't like you" that has most of Frank's comments about beer and bourbon in it though. If you aren't into that kind of shit... or even if you are it still sucks, but the samples are amusing. It was so obscure as to only be found on a very rare compilation.
I heard most of these, including the samples in Anthrax's "I'm the Man" way before I ever actually saw Blue Velvet, so the first time I did all I did through the entire flick was say "oh wow that's where that came from!"
58 | jordash1212 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:45:51am |
My friend spilled Ron Diaz on my foot earlier.
59 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:47:42am |
OT: is anyone following the Mark Sanford wierdness? It seems to be getting stranger and stranger:
First no one knows where he is, including his wife-- then someone says he's hiking the appalachian trail, and now this:
On Tuesday, sources told News 4's Nigel Robertson that a state vehicle is missing and was tracked down, not to the Appalachian Trail, but to the Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta.
Sources told Robertson that a federal agent spotted Sanford in the airport boarding a plane. Robertson was told that the governor was not accompanied by security detail.
Sanford has been out of reach for more than four days, including Father's Day.
Sawyer has emphasized that the governor was hiking on the Appalachian Trail and that it wasn't something the staff or Jenny Sanford were concerned about.
But sources told WYFF News 4 that the federal agent who spotted Sanford saw him at the Atlanta airport, which is about 80 miles from the start of the trail.
WYFF News 4 has not yet confirmed where the plane was going or how the governor got to the airport, but it is clear there are two very different stories.
[Link: www.wyff4.com...]
It really seems like the story about the AT was hastily made up to explain why he was unreachable. It's odd that his wife didn't know he was hiking, even if she didn't know where. And on Father's Day weekend?
60 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:48:35am |
re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth
I dig where Sharmuta is coming from. Looks, wealth, fame, talent, and intellect are kind of meaningless if the person is rotten inside.
I have had a number of very attractive, intelligent, and talented girlfriends (none that were wealthy or famous, though) that turned out to be absolute... well, we're not allowed to use that word here.
One of my first serious girlfriends was a real airhead, but man was she sweet to me. I should have placed more value on her affections than her lack of intellect, but like a fool I let that one get away. I was young.
Over time, I've noticed that a woman's personality as I see it, affects the way she appears to me. She could be extremely beautiful, but if she is a rotten person inside, I eventually come to see her as ugly. This isn't metaphorical either. They literally begin to appear ugly. The reverse is true as well. Not-so-attractive or plain women begin to look better if they are really good people on the inside. (This is why I thought the movie Shallow Hal was so hilarious.) I have to know her well enough to know what her real personality is like though. I'm not psychic so this never helped me avoid hooking up with a couple of monsters.
61 | gmsc Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:51:19am |
Good night, all. I'm going to play with my new toy before I go off to sleep.
62 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:52:34am |
re: #61 gmsc
Good night, all. I'm going to play with my new toy before I go off to sleep.
Night gmsc :)
63 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:53:07am |
re: #61 gmsc
Good night, sleep tight, don't let your new toy make you go blind!
64 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:53:32am |
65 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:53:58am |
66 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Jun 24, 2009 12:54:31am |
Amman's ASE Weighted- down 2.09%
JKSE Jakarta Composite- up 2.85%
Egypt's EGX30- up 0.41%
Dubai's ADX- down 0.8%
70 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:04:33am |
re: #60 ArchangelMichael
I'm not psychic so this never helped me avoid hooking up with a couple of monsters.
The ones I have hooked up with were devilishly clever at hiding their monstrous side until after a serious, difficult to quickly back out of commitment was made. I've been played for a fool more than once.
71 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:07:22am |
re: #59 iceweasel
It really seems like the story about the AT was hastily made up to explain why he was unreachable. It's odd that his wife didn't know he was hiking, even if she didn't know where. And on Father's Day weekend?
But on the bright side, "hiking the Appalachian Trail" has entered the lexicon as an all-purpose euphemism for... well, probably lots of things.
72 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:09:44am |
re: #70 Slumbering Behemoth
Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon? ;p
73 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:09:59am |
re: #71 sagehen
But on the bright side, "hiking the Appalachian Trail" has entered the lexicon as an all-purpose euphemism for... well, probably lots of things.
Indeed. And at the very least, "Appalachian Fail" will endure as a euphemism for "bad cover story".
HuffPo is collecting suggestions for Sanford's "trail name".
74 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:10:50am |
re: #72 Sharmuta
Careful, don't be trippin or else he's gonna...
75 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:13:04am |
re: #70 Slumbering Behemoth
The ones I have hooked up with were devilishly clever at hiding their monstrous side until after a serious, difficult to quickly back out of commitment was made. I've been played for a fool more than once.
Never got that far with any of the bad ones, and even so the bad ones were never that bad. I haven't nearly as bad of the horror stories as most of my friends.
76 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:15:40am |
re: #74 laZardo
Careful, don't be trippin or else he's gonna...
Spot him, got him, as I pulls out my strap
Got my chrome to the side of his Red Smurf hat
You tryin' to check my homey, you better check yo smurf!
77 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:15:43am |
re: #71 sagehen
It will all come out in the wash. I haven't been following this closely, but I would not be shocked to learn that this has something to do with a mistress/prostitute, and/or some kind of drug abuse.
Unusual disappearances of this nature are strange and suspect when it's just a regular private citizen. They are doubly strange and suspect when it is a public figure.
78 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:16:06am |
BTW, Father's Day was "Naked Hiking Day" on the Appalachian Trail.
/ (it really was, though!)
79 | ArchangelMichael Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:17:12am |
re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth
It will all come out in the wash. I haven't been following this closely, but I would not be shocked to learn that this has something to do with a mistress/prostitute, and/or some kind of drug abuse.
Unusual disappearances of this nature are strange and suspect when it's just a regular private citizen. They are doubly strange and suspect when it is a public figure.
I'm just hoping he doesn't believe he's on some spiritual journey and he comes back to start a "movement" intended to get as many kooks with R's after their names in office as possible.
80 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:18:36am |
re: #72 Sharmuta
Hey! I'm feeling melancholy and nostalgic. And a little bit drunk. Quit picking on me!
/wait, what was the plan for the bourbon? Something sexy?
81 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:22:54am |
re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth
/wait, what was the plan for the bourbon? Something sexy?
Maybe. Does the bourbon have a nice personality?
82 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:26:33am |
re: #76 ArchangelMichael
You tryin' to check my homey, you better check yo smurf!
'fore that punk winds up six deep unda muthafukin' loose turf!
83 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:29:09am |
re: #79 ArchangelMichael
Pat Robertson used to go on such "spiritual journeys", even abandoning his pregnant and soon to deliver wife on one occasion. Just sayin'.
84 | tokyobk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:29:32am |
re: #71 sagehen
But he had the trail gear in his car, sleeping bag etc... parked at the airport!
That makes me think holiday with girlfriend.
The packed gear will be what sinks him as it shows premeditation of deceit of some kind and that wont sit well. All accountability points are down the drain.
85 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:32:18am |
re: #81 Sharmuta
Maybe. Does the bourbon have a nice personality?
Let's say it does. What happens next? Please be as accurate and descriptive as possible. Leave out no details, and tell the story slowly.
/
86 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:36:11am |
Well lizards....it's getting late and I really should take a hike on the Appalachin trail....
89 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:49:41am |
re: #83 Slumbering Behemoth
Pat Robertson used to go on such "spiritual journeys", even abandoning his pregnant and soon to deliver wife on one occasion. Just sayin'.
Really? I never knew that. Can't say I'm surprised.
I'm all for spiritual quests and searching for the meaning in life, I guess, but why does it mean ditching wife and kids, for some?
90 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:50:58am |
re: #84 tokyobk
Your post reminds me of a joke. I'll be typing it from memory, so please forgive me if the delivery sucks.
A hard working, corporate man would go on occasional hunting trips, and usually depend on his wife to pack his clothing for him.
Well, his wife began to get suspicious when these hunting trips suddenly became much more frequent, and far less fruitful. He was going hunting more often, and bringing home fewer kills.
So when he left for his next hunting trip, she kissed him goodbye and wished him luck. Before leaving he asked her "Did you remember to pack my lucky hunting socks, the wool ones"?
To which she replied "Of course, I made a special point of doing so".
When he returned from his trip, he immediately began berating her. "You said you packed my lucky socks, but they weren't in my backpack. Was that supposed to be some kind of trick"?!
"Yes" she replied. "I packed your socks in your rifle case".
91 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:51:30am |
re: #84 tokyobk
But he had the trail gear in his car, sleeping bag etc... parked at the airport!
That makes me think holiday with girlfriend.
It'd be funnier if it's a boyfriend.
An underage, non-English-speaking boyfriend.
Better yet -- twin underage non-English speaking boyfriends.
With a camera.
92 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:58:32am |
re: #91 sagehen
It'd be funnier if it's a boyfriend.
An underage, non-English-speaking boyfriend.
Better yet -- twin underage non-English speaking boyfriends.
With a camera.
How about if it's an underage boyfriend, he wants to take pictures of him having sex with adult males, and he's a furry?
Maybe that would be old news....
According to the criminal complaint, Mr. Berlin proposed traveling to the boy's home in Harrisburg, about 20 miles from Carlisle, and having sex in the backyard and in a shed on his parents' property. He also allegedly offered to arrange a meeting in a hotel room so Mr. Berlin could take photos of the boy and another adult having sex.
The online communication took place on seven different days between April 27 and May 25, according to the criminal complaint. Investigators say some of the messages originated from a Senate computer.
Investigators believe Mr. Berlin and the boy met on an Internet site for "furries," an online community of people who adopt half-animal, half-human personas.
In one message, according to the complaint, Mr. Berlin requested pictures of the boy and wrote, "When will your folks be out?"
Other messages describe various sex acts in explicit detail and refer to "yiffing," which is a "furry" term for having sex.
[Link: www.post-gazette.com...]
93 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:58:43am |
re: #89 iceweasel
Well, I am recalling from memory something I read long ago. A quick and dirty search comes up with this link, where this excerpt reads a lot like what I have read before:
By the next day, Robertson had undergone a conversion experience. “Dede, I’m saved!” he exclaimed to his wife. He took the nude down from the wall and put it out with the trash and, to Dede’s consternation, poured all their cognac down the drain. Although his wife was seven months pregnant, Robertson trekked off to a Christian summer camp in the Canadian woods to commune with God.
“Please come back. I need you desperately,” Dede pleaded in a note.
“I can’t leave. God will take care of you,” Robertson replied.
94 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 1:59:54am |
A letter from Lou Pritchett to President #44
Dear President Obama,
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don’t understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and ‘class’, always blaming others.
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the ‘blame America ‘ crowd and deliver this message abroad.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
You scare me because you have begun to use ‘extortion’ tactics against certain banks and corporations.
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.
You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O’Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.
You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.
Sincerely,
Lou Pritchett
95 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:00:07am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!
96 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:02:39am |
re: #95 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!
{lol} Good Morning and thanks for fruitcup.
98 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:04:50am |
Erik! :-)
Sharmuta! :-)
Caffeine isn't working... :-(
/got music?
99 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:07:17am |
re: #98 littleoldlady
Erik! :-)
Sharmuta! :-)
Caffeine isn't working... :-(
/got music?
100 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:08:27am |
Morning folks....coffee's on...am I too late for fruit cup?
101 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:08:48am |
102 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:09:32am |
srb! :-)
Fruitcup is...you know...on the buffet --------------->
103 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:11:35am |
re: #102 littleoldlady
Thanks, I was just hoping no one had eaten it all (you know how people get) = )
104 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:12:33am |
re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth
SB-- I am still reading that article, it's amazing. Thank you so much for linking it.
This seems a little revealing too, about PR's motivations:
“You need to be born again,” his mother told him, bombarding the couple with gospel tracts. At her urging, Robertson had dinner with an acquaintance of his mother, an itinerant evangelist named Cornelius Vanderbreggen, at an elegant restaurant in Philadelphia. Robertson was impressed. “I was used to the expensive bistros around New York, but that a faith missionary should say the Lord had led him to dine at this restaurant where the waiters wore white tie and tails was more than I could comprehend,” he wrote. “I thought that God’s people wore shabby clothes, baggy trousers, and suit coats that didn’t match. I thought they ate hamburger and boiled turnips.”
By the next day, Robertson had undergone a conversion experience.
Even in his own account, PR is less moved by the gospel of giving away what you have to follow Christ, and take care of the poor, than he is moved by the idea that God wants you to be rich.
Disturbing.
105 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:12:43am |
re: #101 littleoldlady
You could try something a little like this. Helps mellow me out sometimes.
106 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:13:52am |
re: #103 srb1976
True. But not to worry. It appears a lot of the fressers have gone to bed. ;-)
107 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:14:09am |
re: #95 littleoldlady
Hi LoL, thanks as always for the fruitcup. :)
108 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:15:01am |
re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth
That mellows you out? Mkay. ;-)
110 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:16:14am |
re: #103 srb1976
Well, if you missed out on the fruitcup, I have some bacon-cup on the way. It's not quite ready yet, though.
NSFLoL
111 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:17:52am |
113 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:18:50am |
re: #95 littleoldlady
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
It appears as if you have taken the Dix Handley approach to the fruit cup this morning, eh?
114 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:20:11am |
re: #108 littleoldlady
That mellows you out? Mkay. ;-)
Well, yeah. But I am a life long metal head, so "mellow" is a relative term.
This is my usual fare.
115 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:20:58am |
re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, if you missed out on the fruitcup, I have some bacon-cup on the way. It's not quite ready yet, though.
NSFLoL
I love that picture! = ) It looks like something Her Royal Stoutness would do, given the chance.....
117 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:22:55am |
re: #113 freetoken
freetoken! :-)
What do you suppose that is? Vodka?
And speaking of "enhanced" fruitcup...where has red been?
118 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:23:46am |
re: #116 Sharmuta
Oh boy! Then we can REALLY doctor it to our hearts' content! ;-)
119 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:27:13am |
re: #118 littleoldlady
I was thinking some night we could all just go back to a private thread, and the morning people can be all, "Where the hell is everyone?" and we'll be too drunk down on the private thread to care.
120 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:29:11am |
re: #116 Sharmuta
I wonder when we'll get our first private fruitcup.
What kind of fruit is it? What kind of cup is it? What exactly are you doing with these things, privately. Remember, this is for posterity, so answer in great detail, and describe it slowly.
/unless of course this turns out to be some kind of "1 Smurf, 1 Fruitcup" kind of thing. I may be a freak, but I have my damn limits!
121 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:33:51am |
re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth
Whoa- what one smurf and one fruit cup do when they're alone together is between them. As long as it's mutually consensual....
122 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:36:00am |
Yay! Our Air conditioning is fixed!
The last few days have brutal....kids cranky, better half cranky (I, of course, have been sweetness and light)
Temps in the hi 90's, humid as hell, no breeze....ick!
123 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:36:24am |
re: #119 Sharmuta
Way back when...if you were on LGF perhaps you remember...it was a big deal to get 1000 comments on a thread, and a few of us would keep those threads alive days later, posting to/with the two or five of us who would show up. It morphed into sort of a private thread.
Charles would close it after 7 days (does he still do that?) and it was a race to see who could be LAST!
/that was before there was a penalty for being FOIST! ;-)
124 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:37:46am |
125 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:38:24am |
re: #121 Sharmuta
So, what happens in Smurf Village, stays in Smurf Village?
/Oh, if the mushrooms could talk, what would they say?
126 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:38:51am |
re: #117 littleoldlady
What do you suppose that is? Vodka?
/blockquote>For Dix's secret recipe, read his quote at the head of this LNDT. ;^O
127 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:40:24am |
128 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:52:49am |
re: #94 Erik The Red
A letter from Lou Pritchett to President #44
I can't answer all of Lou's concerns, but let me take a stab at some of them.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
Really? After two best-selling books and a two-year campaign, which included dozens of debates, dozens of speeches and constant press availability -- followed by an inauguration that included yet more speeches, and now almost six months in office that include so far several foreign trips with still more speeches and press conferences, daily press releases, dozens of appointments of people whose own views are well-known, several major pieces of legislation.... you still know nothing about him? Really? You're just not paying attention.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
Did I mention the two best-selling books? Took care of all his student loans, with enough left over to fill his kids' college accounts and buy a nice house. Then there's the 3 years worth of income tax returns that have been publicly released. Close to 900k for 2008, I'd hardly call that "no visible means of support."
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don’t understand it at its core.
Which is such a sharp contrast to the grounded TANG-president and his 5-deferrments VP.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
If you feel certain these things are true, why did you say you know nothing about him?
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
In contrast to how congressional Republicans so vigorously obstructed overspending by their party's... oh right, that didn't happen.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You mean like inviting members of the opposition to the White House repeatedly and soliciting their input into the stimulus bill? Like sitting down to dinner with half a dozen top conservative columnists? Having members of the opposition party as Secretary of Defense, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of Transportation, Nat'l Endowment for the Humanities and Ambassador to China?
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O’Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.
He's certainly ridiculed the Limbaugh etcs... in what way has he ever done anything to try to silence them?
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.
Paranoid much?
129 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 2:59:44am |
re: #128 sagehen
Is it bad that my first thought after reading this is "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you"? = )
131 | Sheepdogess Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:01:08am |
re: #128 sagehen
Are you serious? Bill Ayers, terrorist and rapist, wrote Dreams of My father. Pretty scary if you ask me.
132 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:01:22am |
re: #123 littleoldlady
And yes- threads are archived after a week.
134 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:03:50am |
re: #131 Sheepdogess
Are you serious? Bill Ayers, terrorist and rapist, wrote Dreams of My father. Pretty scary if you ask me.
You have to be kidding with that claim.
135 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:05:06am |
re: #133 Sharmuta
You have proof of that, right?
I'm counting down to a link to the ridiculous Jack Cashill 'analysis' over at American Thinker.
136 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:06:52am |
re: #133 Sharmuta
I thought it was supposed to have been ghost written by Genghis Manson. Or was it Destro? So hard to keep up.
/
137 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:07:33am |
For some reason I am getting the strong urge to post a spin-off about Michele Bachmann hanging out with the Alex-Jones fan group (which was distributing the ObamaDeception DVD), where she promised to bring her Friend Ron Paul to Minnesota to speak about the Fed...
138 | callahan23 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:08:03am |
re: #129 srb1976
Is it bad that my first thought after reading this is "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you"? = )
Philip K. Dick ? ?
Was that the line of thought you were entertaining?
Good morning Lizardia!
139 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:08:56am |
re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth
Maybe it was the magic pen of that famous Japanese witch, Yubaba ?
140 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:09:19am |
re: #128 sagehen
Really? After two best-selling books and a two-year campaign, which included dozens of debates, dozens of speeches and constant press availability -- followed by an inauguration that included yet more speeches, and now almost six months in office that include so far several foreign trips with still more speeches and press conferences, daily press releases, dozens of appointments of people whose own views are well-known, several major pieces of legislation.... you still know nothing about him? Really? You're just not paying attention.
People don't read books, they depend upon the MSM to give them the facts.
Why wasn't his radio interview in which he said he believed in "redistributing wealth" and "reparations" for African Americans widely broadcast? Why wasn't his relationship with Bill Ayers examined? Rather the press was willing to accept that he was "just someone from the neighborhood". Why, even now, is his speech where he says he believes in a "single payer" healthcare system (from 2002) where he also says it will be done in stages, not brought up? Why did American Jews in Israel NOT support him (25% did - now it's down to 6%, btw) vs. American Jews who overwhelmingly supported him (78%)? [Hint: Could have been what the press reported? NAH.]
Where is the Kahlidi tape that the LA Times is still not releasing?!
141 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:09:32am |
re: #138 callahan23
Actually, I'm not sure what the source is (bad of me I know) but it's kind of a running joke in my family.....
143 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:11:28am |
re: #128 sagehen
You mean like inviting members of the opposition to the White House repeatedly and soliciting their input into the stimulus bill?
Repeatedly? I remember once. And that was the meeting he told them, "We won", right?
/why bother inviting them?
145 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:12:38am |
re: #137 freetoken
Well, it's gotta be more informative and insightful than that midget pr0n I was thinking of linking.
/
146 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:13:48am |
Iranian tweets:
Wednesday 4pm Baharestan Sq, Tehran - Sea of GreenMOUSAVi - on his wesite - Wed Sea of Green is 100% confirmed - no cancellation will be made #Iranelection RT RT RT
Larijani pressing for Mousavi to be given airtime on IRIB to discuss elections
Mousavi has stated 'If I am arrested or killed - strike until the Gov falls'
RE "Mousavi w/ the assassin" @iranbaan with all due respect, this is exactly the sort of rumor we should contain rather than emanating.
Unconfirmed reports on a planned arrest or assassination of Mousavi w/ the assassin killed on the spot.
State TV deems Neda's killing 'staged'
Kayhan - Iranian Gov newspaper - has tonight called forthe arrest of Mousavi 6-23-victim-tribute1
tomorrow Mousavi annouce start of a new type of protests - peaceful and silent - soon there will be strikes
1 voice from Tehran: many were waiting for Obama to "condemn" #iranelection violence, which he did today. "He's in the right spot"
Obama's comments worth a read, v. strong words, tho delicate effort to avoid apprnce of meddling
6-23-victim-tribute2 Iranian Govn't puts all efforts towards crackdown, as well as case creation for reformists. Rafsanjani holds the key.
the only question now is how will the end happen - peacefully or with civil war
the ppl have lost all faith in this Gov - Iran can never be same as b4 again
all hospitals is surrounded by militia to check why ppl going in - if gun or baton injury - they arrest and beat u
all foreign embassys surrounded by militia to stop ppl going in
Anti-Riots Vans moving toward Narmak (East Tehran).6-23-army-standing-guard
Clashes at Baharestan Sq.
we have report of large street battles in east & west of Tehran now
The parks in north of city are closed at night and militia attacking any ppl in park or walking in streets
We can hear ppl shouting from balcony right now 'Allah Akbar - death to Khamenei'
Obama's comments worth a read, v. strong words, tho delicate effort to avoid apprnce of meddling [Link: bit.ly...]
Bad news for Iran tweets, govt better at slowing proxy servers [Link: tinyurl.com...]
Relieved to see Iran & #iranelection still out-trending Jon & Kate on Twitter
Many asking why fewer Tweets from Iran. Ans. is internet access more and more restricted
147 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:13:49am |
re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, it's gotta be more informative and insightful than that midget pr0n I was thinking of linking.
/
I think they prefer to be called little people
///
148 | callahan23 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:15:14am |
re: #141 srb1976
Actually, I'm not sure what the source is (bad of me I know) but it's kind of a running joke in my family.....
Philip K. Dick the renowned science fiction writer was convinced all his life that the government was spying on him. I don't recall if after his death or shortly before, it transpired that the FBI really had a file on him. They were watching him, which vindicates him. He was not paranoid after all.
149 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:16:01am |
re: #147 srb1976
Actually, the correct term is "dwarf", believe it or not. True midgets are quite rare.
150 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:16:10am |
re: #146 Kenneth
State TV deems Neda's killing 'staged'
I shouldn't be surprised, but I still lose my breath over their utter shamelessness. Depraved!
Thank you for posting these.
151 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:16:31am |
152 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:17:11am |
re: #148 callahan23
Wow, I did not know any of that....cool.
Well folks, time to get back to the salt mines....have a great day!
153 | callahan23 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:18:17am |
re: #152 srb1976
Wow, I did not know any of that....cool.
Well folks, time to get back to the salt mines....have a great day!
I am also off to do some work.
See y'all later in the day.
154 | littleoldlady Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:18:20am |
Bye, srb! :-)
I have to get moving, too. :-(
Good day, ALL!™
155 | srb1976 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:18:32am |
re: #151 littleoldlady
;-)
One of the resteraunts I worked at, I had a manager that used to sing that song under his breath every time he walked by me! Funny as hell
/Not QUITE a little person
156 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:18:36am |
re: #146 Kenneth
Mousavi has stated 'If I am arrested or killed - strike until the Gov falls'
I hope they do that without him getting killed.
158 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:20:50am |
For those who didn't get my Yubaba reference, she is a central character (antagonist) in the Japanese story (and wonderful animated feature) Spirited Away.
She has lots of magical toys, including pens that write themselves, etc.
Her most important role in the story though is in changing the major protagonist's name, taking away most of the kanji characters leaving a single syllable. By changing the name, Yubaba also takes away the protagonist's memory of her name. Only when the protagonist can remember her name will she be able to escape the clutches Yubaba.
/Perhaps my cultural references are a bit, um.... specialized?
159 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:24:31am |
Please understand, I am not using that term in a disparaging way.
160 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:24:40am |
re: #158 freetoken
For those who didn't get my Yubaba reference, she is a central character (antagonist) in the Japanese story (and wonderful animated feature) Spirited Away.
She has lots of magical toys, including pens that write themselves, etc.
Her most important role in the story though is in changing the major protagonist's name, taking away most of the kanji characters leaving a single syllable. By changing the name, Yubaba also takes away the protagonist's memory of her name. Only when the protagonist can remember her name will she be able to escape the clutches Yubaba.
/Perhaps my cultural references are a bit, um.... specialized?
That is one of my daughter's favorite videos.
Let's hope America remembers her name and heritage to overcome the "evil" that overtakes her.
162 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:25:15am |
re: #142 Sharmuta
Probably should.
Yes but... Bachmann is such an easy target. All I have to do is google her name and something is bound to come up.
The worst part of the story though isn't Bachmann. It was the event, namely the MN GOP central committee meeting on the 15th of this month. The Alex Jones people set up a table in the exhibition area, giving out truther DVDs and the ObamaDeception DVD. Pawlenty apparently had the good sense to turn down the truther DVD... yet what does Bachmann do? She stands around, chats with them, promises to bring her friend Ron Paul to MN to talk about the Fed!
Denser than lead.
163 | Sheepdogess Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:25:21am |
Three, Two, One ...
Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he had written very close to nothing. Then, five years later, this untested 33 year-old produced what Time Magazine has called -- with a straight face -- "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."
The public is asked to believe Obama wrote Dreams From My Father on his own, almost as though he were some sort of literary idiot savant. I do not buy this canard for a minute, not at all. Writing is as much a craft as, say, golf. To put this in perspective, imagine if a friend played a few rounds in the high 90s and then a few years later, without further practice, made the PGA Tour. It doesn't happen.
And yet, given the biases of the literary establishment, no reviewer of note has so much as questioned Obama's role in the writing, then or now. As the New York Times gushed, Obama was "that rare politician who can write . . . and write movingly and genuinely about himself." These accolades matter all the more because Obama has built his political persona around his presumably superior intellect, Dreams being exhibit A.
Shy of a confession by those involved, I will not be able to prove conclusively that Obama did not write this book. As shall be seen, however, there are only two real possibilities: one is that Obama experienced a near miraculous turnaround in his literary abilities; the second is that he had major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter.
The weight of the evidence overwhelming favors the latter conclusion and strongly suggests who that ghostwriter is. In that this remains something of a work in progress, I am willing to test my hypothesis against any standard of proof and appreciate any and all good leads.
Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
164 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:35:53am |
re: #163 Sheepdogess
Did you miss the part where he admits he can't prove his claim?
165 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:36:31am |
re: #162 freetoken
It's the alex jones angle. You should let people know.
166 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:38:31am |
Good Morning LGF
It's a little bit funny...
167 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:38:37am |
re: #163 Sheepdogess
Three, Two, One ...
Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
Jack Cashill's claim to expertise rests on the fact that he's ghostwritten a celeb biography.
Me, I'll go with the guy who actually is an academic, who spends his life trained in the analysis of texts.
Why Jack Cashill is an idiot, in brief:
According to Jack Cashill—in an article first published at WorldNetDaily—Dreams from My Father was probably written by Bill Ayers. Cashill opens by demonstrating that Obama, unlike every undergraduate ever, published crap poems in a college literary journal. These crap poems “show not a glint of promise,” Cashill tells us, nor did a “heavily edited, unsigned student case comment” published in the Harvard Law Review.
Cashill is no ordinary literary detective: in the past he has been called upon to rescue celebrity biographies, so he recognizes when someone, in this case “[w]hoever rescued Barack Obama’s Dreams from My Father[,] invest[s] considerable time to invent a distinct voice and style for an unknown author.” And who is this someone?
Bill Ayers.
How does Cashill know? Because the “distinct voice and style” Ayers invents for Obama “is surely Ayers’ [own].” Ayers invented a style—his own—then wrote Dreams from My Father in it.
(snip, but I encourage everyone to read the whole thing)
To be blunt: if you find Cashill’s identification of “sea imagery” and his lists of words both Obama and Ayers use to be particularly anything other than laughable pablum, you’re an eighth-wit.
If, however, you only use Cashill’s juvenile musings as a hypothetical which, if true, suggests all the unsavory things you already believe about Obama, then you’ve fully embraced the Cashill Doctrine. What do I mean by that? If you deconstruct Cashill’s name, you’ll find that it contains the words “cash” and shill.” “Cash” refers to paper bank notes which, in more robust times, could be exchanged for goods or services. A “shill,” according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is “one who poses as a disinterested advocate of another but is actually of the latter’s party; a mouthpiece, a stooge.” It goes without saying that shills often shill for cash, but in this case, I think we can say the shill’s shilling for cash and attention.
Because no one with any literary training can read Cashill’s tripe without recognizing it as the shoddy work of a dim student asked to compare and contrast two texts.
[Link: edgeofthewest.wordpress.com...]
168 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:40:00am |
re: #163 Sheepdogess
Three, Two, One ...
Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
VERY interesting article! Too many literary similarities to ignore!
170 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:43:06am |
re: #140 littleoldlady
Why did American Jews in Israel NOT support him (25% did - now it's down to 6%, btw) vs. American Jews who overwhelmingly supported him (78%)? [Hint: Could have been what the press reported? NAH.]
Or it could be because Jews in Israel don't care about Sarah Palin, and Jews in America really do. A lot.
I cannot stress enough how much American Jews hate Sarah Palin.
And of course, American Jews in Israel base their vote entirely on foreign policy. American Jews in America are also very interested in American domestic policy (especially health care and education).
171 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:43:56am |
re: #168 songbird
VERY interesting article! Too many literary similarities to ignore!
Good morning songbird!
Not at all. The only literary similarities Cashill can point to are "an obsession with the instability of memory" -- i.e., the central concern for everyone writing an autobiography, a well known and well worn concern especially for those with any familiarity with postmodernism-- and sea imagery.
If the use of metaphors deriving from the sea means someone is ghostwriting, I guess Homer has ghostwritten...well, everything.
172 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:48:32am |
re: #169 Sharmuta
Um- that's all speculation.
Yes, but it would show whose material Obama had been reading, studying, and whose literary style he would have absorbed. I agree with the writer of the article that Obama is still not an inspired writer....about as inspired as when he is not reading off the teleprompter, and that is pretty marginal.
I sure would like to know more about his education....his transcripts....and who funded him through college. Is that information available yet?
173 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:51:19am |
re: #172 songbird
I sure would like to know more about his education....his transcripts....and who funded him through college. Is that information available yet?
Beware the Dark Side, for once you go down that path forever will it dominate you.
175 | yochanan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:51:36am |
re: #170 sagehen
non ortho, and non russian jews in america are mostly liberal american jews in Israel mostly not liberal about half of them are ortho jews.
176 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:52:04am |
re: #171 iceweasel
There it is. I am commissioning Homer (Not of Simpson) to ghostwrite my next erotic thriller recounting my exploits with a midget cyborg and a multi-tongued Amazonian priestess in our quest for Aztec gold and forbidden pleasures. I smell a "movie of the week" here.
/getting too goofy to keep posting, g'nite Lizards.
177 | Sheepdogess Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:52:44am |
re: #167 iceweasel
So you don't even believe Dreams was ghostwritten?
178 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:53:04am |
re: #172 songbird
I really don't have that many questions about what 0bama studied or learned. I assumed it was standard elitist socialism available on nearly every American campus.
As for his transcripts and funding- I don't know if he's required to turn over that information. It would be nice to see it, but I'm not sure what it has to do with his authorship of Dreams.
179 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:53:25am |
180 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:54:12am |
re: #173 freetoken
Beware the Dark Side, for once you go down that path forever will it dominate you.
Unfortunately, the Dark Side seems to be trying to dominate us.
My interest is but a fleeting fancy.....at least I don't go down the merry nirther path!
181 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:54:52am |
re: #177 Sheepdogess
Did you miss the part where he said he can't prove his claim?
182 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:55:44am |
re: #172 songbird
Yes, but it would show whose material Obama had been reading, studying, and whose literary style he would have absorbed.
Not in this case. It shows only that Ayers and Obama are both the product of having been through college post 1960, and both took some liberal arts courses--or were otherwise exposed to standard po-mo, lit-crit ideas, same as everyone who's been through college now.
Edit: Sharm just said this above in a much better way
184 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:58:15am |
re: #183 Sheepdogess
Great- we await your proof of your claim then.
185 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:59:05am |
re: #182 iceweasel
Not in this case. It shows only that Ayers and Obama are both the product of having been through college post 1960, and both took some liberal arts courses--or were otherwise exposed to standard po-mo, lit-crit ideas, same as everyone who's been through college now.
Edit: Sharm just said this above in a much better way
I can see that.
I'm not saying that Ayers did the ghostwriting, but that there are similarities. And we do tend to take inspiration from those with whom we associate. I see this in music all the time, especially in my musicological studies.
186 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:00:40am |
Look, I'll give just one example. At the end of cashill's article, he thinks he's delivered the definitive deathblow by pointing out that Obama uses the word "ballast".
Cashill's reasoning? "Ballast is a nautical term, Ayers once worked on a boat, AND...." (wait for it, this is the best part) "I didn't know what ballast meant until I looked it up"
So Cashill's best, most irrefutable evidence that Ayers wrote Dreams is that Cashill is too stupid to have encountered the word ballast before, and he's too illiterate to realise that it's often used in metaphorical contexts.
Thanks, but no thanks. I prefer my 'experts' to argue from a position of, well, knowing something, rather than arguing that "I never heard of this before, therefore i can draw conclusions about it."
/rant off (sorry, but Cashill setting himself up as some kind of faux-academic burns my ass)
187 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:03:59am |
re: #185 songbird
We do tend to take inspiration from those with whom we associate. I see this in music all the time, especially in my musicological studies.
Absolutely. It happens all the time in music.
In literature as well as music, it's exceedingly rare for a person to have only one influence; typically they have many, and they are also typically the product of some tradition(s) or other, no matter how innovative they may be.
Same with Ayers and Obama. Not that either is particularly innovative in terms of lit style, at all, but they're products of the same tradition. Like anyone else who went to those schools or ones like them.
190 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:08:36am |
re: #185 songbird
He started his political career in billy bombers home, so there's no doubt in my mind where 0bama's coming from politically. But this blog is Anti-Idiotarian HQ, and we fact check. There's no proof ayers wrote that for 0bama. I think some people want things to be true about 0bama, so they believe them despite the lack of evidence.
192 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:10:10am |
re: #189 Sheepdogess
Are you an Obama supporter?
Do you use soap, or body wash?
This is a completely irrelevant question.
You don't need to be an Obama supporter to see that Cashill is full of it.
193 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:13:58am |
re: #190 Sharmuta
He started his political career in billy bombers home, so there's no doubt in my mind where 0bama's coming from politically. But this blog is Anti-Idiotarian HQ, and we fact check. There's no proof ayers wrote that for 0bama. I think some people want things to be true about 0bama, so they believe them despite the lack of evidence.
There is a lot of stupidity that flies around for lack of evidence. I think a person is as a person does, and the radical influences from Obama's life manifest themselves in the policies and philosophies he espouses and the actions he takes based on them . Those will be his downfall in the long run - not speculative literary analysis.
194 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:15:29am |
re: #193 songbird
I tell you what- he pushes for meetings with the thugs of Tehran, and that might be his undoing.
195 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:16:35am |
re: #193 songbird
I think it's also easy for people to believe in speculative stuff when it fits with their worldview, and confirms an opinion they already hold of someone they don't like.
And that's something that crosses partylines, of course. The left did it about GWB all the time too.
196 | jim in virginia Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:18:26am |
re: #193 songbirdmot
There is a lot of silliness on here-most in fun, and there is occasional stupidity. There are also a lot of very smart people here.
Like you. A thousand updings to you songbrd.
197 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:20:33am |
re: #195 iceweasel
I think it's also easy for people to believe in speculative stuff when it fits with their worldview, and confirms an opinion they already hold of someone they don't like.
And that's something that crosses partylines, of course. The left did it about GWB all the time too.
People don't want the truth- they want propaganda.
198 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:25:09am |
re: #197 Sharmuta
People don't want the truth- they want propaganda.
That's right. That's what most people want, when they don't want updates on Jon and Kate and American Idol and whatever other crap we're mainlining now.
People don't like thinking.
Nick Cave knew what he was talking about.
People Ain't No Good.
199 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:29:07am |
re: #196 jim in virginia
mot
There is a lot of silliness on here-most in fun, and there is occasional stupidity. There are also a lot of very smart people here.
Like you. A thousand updings to you songbrd.
You are very kind. Thank you!
200 | Erik The Red Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:35:25am |
Later Lizards.
9 day countdown until I arrive back in the USA. :)
206 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:43:30am |
re: #186 iceweasel
I am an electrician so ballast to me is what makes a flourescent light work, how does that fit into his line of thinking?///
209 | rightside Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:48:22am |
re: #206 soxfan4life
Navy ships are chock full 'o fluorescent lighting. I learned about ballasts and starters that way!
211 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:49:39am |
re: #207 Sheepdogess
I
Who's John and Kate?
An inconsequential divorcing couple with a lot of kids who have more than their share of fame and limelight.
212 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:50:01am |
Iceweasel- good call on the link that was forthcoming as "proof", BTW.
214 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:50:49am |
Ugh, feels like it's going to be another hot one.
215 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:52:23am |
re: #209 rightside
If you work on the wiring, just don't get caught up on the neutral(white) wire, on flourescent lighting that one will tear you up.
218 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:52:46am |
219 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:53:24am |
re: #216 songbird
Where are you?
Michigan, along the shoreline.
Last few days have been very hot and sticky.
220 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:53:48am |
re: #214 Irish Rose
Ugh, feels like it's going to be another hot one.
Here in the Northeast, otherwise known as Seattle East we have another wet one.
222 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:55:07am |
re: #214 Irish Rose
I've seen pictures of where you live. Which do you prefer?
Snow so thick that you post a picture and people (ME!) say, "wow, that is thick fog"
or
"another hot one"?
223 | rightside Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:56:42am |
re: #215 soxfan4life
The Navy is anal about securing power and red tagging it before working on it. During the tagging process, you need a separate person to verify the correct breaker. Once tagged, you must verify no power to the fixture by using a multimeter. Then, and only then, can you work on it.
Comes in handy when working on -28,000 volt radar power supplies.
224 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:57:49am |
re: #218 Irish Rose
Just that "A Nonny Moose" is funny as hell.
225 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 4:59:10am |
re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've seen pictures of where you live. Which do you prefer?
Snow so thick that you post a picture and people (ME!) say, "wow, that is thick fog"
or
"another hot one"?
I see your point ;).
226 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:00:06am |
227 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:01:19am |
OK, where are all our East coast lizards this morning?
229 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:02:38am |
re: #206 soxfan4life
I am an electrician so ballast to me is what makes a flourescent light work, how does that fit into his line of thinking?///
*channelling cashill* 'Since I have never heard of ballast as electricians use it, and since my dictionary didn't mention it, there are no such things as electricians'.
How are you today, soxfan?re: #212 Sharmuta
Iceweasel- good call on the link that was forthcoming as "proof", BTW.
I knew Cashill was the author of that ridiculous rumour, but the really interesting thing is that Cashill originally published it on WingNut Daily, and later on his own site, and American Thinker is only another place that picked it up. I remembered AT because I just saw last week that they were still publishing dreck by Cashill.
That fact that this person went straight to the source *I* mentioned --when it wasn't even the first or main place this article appeared--suggests to me that they genuinely knew nothing at all about this, apart from what they'd heard fringe blogs mutter.
I don't think this person knew Cashill was the source, nor do I think this person ever even read Cashill.
It's clear he or she never did any research on it.
230 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:03:15am |
re: #223 rightside
The Navy is anal about securing power and red tagging it before working on it. During the tagging process, you need a separate person to verify the correct breaker. Once tagged, you must verify no power to the fixture by using a multimeter. Then, and only then, can you work on it.
Comes in handy when working on -28,000 volt radar power supplies.
Lots of time they use multiwire branch circuits on lighting which is a 3 phase network with a common neutral.So the feed can be dead but there is more voltage on the neutral than on the hot wires. I got hung up in one once, it was the only time I couldn't break myself clear. Had someone else not knocked the ladder out from under me it could have been fatal. As for radar power supplies, we had to work on the 400hz generators. Electricity at 400hz is alot scarier than at 60hz.
231 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:05:42am |
If the time comes when the Israeli Arab birthrate is less than the Jewish one, then the Israeli demographic argument against a one-state solution disappears.
Just so you all realize the implications of bandying around all these questionable statistics.
232 | Lincolntf Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:05:53am |
Morning all.
Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.
233 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:06:01am |
234 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:07:17am |
re: #233 soxfan4life
Just fine, about to become horribly depressed by reading the link lincolntf just left us, I think. :(
235 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:07:39am |
re: #232 Lincolntf
Unfortunately it will never happen here in the People's Republic of Taxachussetts. He'll get his though either at Walpole or Concord.
236 | rightside Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:08:55am |
re: #230 soxfan4life
What a coinky-dink. As part of my element, we worked on 400Hz converters too. 3-phase, 60Hz, 450VAC in, 3-phase, 400Hz, 450VAC out at 600A. 4 of them running in parallel, feeding the entire boat.
237 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:09:00am |
re: #207 Sheepdogess
I
Who's John and Kate?
Jon and Kate Gosselin had twin girls--Cara and Mady--when they decided they wanted another kid. Kate's fertility treatment lead to another set of multiples-- Hannah, Alexis, Leah, Aaden, Colin and Joel. TLC has a show, Jon & Kate Plus Eight, that has chronicled their lives for years.
Kate's a highly organized woman who tends to be very bossy at times. Jon can be rather wishy-washy. Jon one day decided to stick his dick where it didn't belong, and got caught by the paparazzi that were following him. So, now they are divorcing.
From what I've gathered, they plan on "nesting" during and after the divorce, which means that the kids will not have to go from their home to their parents' respective homes, instead their parents will take turns living in the kids' home.
239 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:12:32am |
re: #236 rightside
What a coinky-dink. As part of my element, we worked on 400Hz converters too. 3-phase, 60Hz, 450VAC in, 3-phase, 400Hz, 450VAC out at 600A. 4 of them running in parallel, feeding the entire boat.
With that 400 cycles it makes the effective voltage greater doesn't it? And did you ever have to work on the chiller units for the boat?
242 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:15:18am |
re: #232 Lincolntf
Morning all.
Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.
That's terrible! Didn't anyone notice anything? Reporting abuse can be done anonymously so easily!
I'm not a eugenics fan, but some people should never be allowed to care for children.
243 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:16:04am |
re: #237 MandyManners
I'm not condoning Jon's behavior at all, but how much is Kate doing with the kids when she's out doing book signing tours and criss-crossing the country. Seems as though there is enough bad behavior on both sides. Maybe that is why there was a cash settlement offer made at the time Kate filed for divorce. As for the nesting, it only seems practical, imagine the entourage required to transport all 8 back and forth.
244 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:16:13am |
re: #232 Lincolntf
Morning all.
Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.
Fry the bastard.
Ditto the judge who is now an accessory.
245 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:16:25am |
re: #241 mamacares
Hopeful, thank you.
Hopeful is always good!
/unless it is hopenchange hopeful! LOL
246 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:16:45am |
247 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:17:05am |
I just got mail from a college friend of mine who is also a veteran, and who worked in Iraq providing security for people and things that needed to get froom point A to point B. He is a good guy with a great sense of humor, and a generous spirit.
All of which makes it even more difficult to read his Bilderberger, CFR, Luap Nor, Nazis-as-Darwinists, Soros, WorldNetDaily lunacy.
He wrote a conspiracy introduction to a Darwin-bashing "book review" posted to WND by petulant kook Ellis Washington. In his introduction, he announces that the History Channel program Life After People (based on the informative and engaging book) is one of the ways in which we are being programmed by our masters, evidence of our sinister overlords' view that "we are not needed in the future."
I really want to engage him on this, but I absolutely dread the conversation. I would rather remember him the way I do now, and I fear that by engaging, all I will accomplish is to degrade the memory of an old friend. Still clinging to my illusion, I guess.
248 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:17:51am |
re: #225 Irish Rose
I see your point ;).
heh... you should frame that picture... hang it during the steamy months.
That was really funny. Do you remember posting that picture? I swear, I thought it was a fog enclosed shoreline.
249 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:18:10am |
re: #246 Irish Rose
Crab cakes, mmmm.
soft shell crab on a bun! Delicious
(or as my dear husband calls it - "spider on a bun" -yuk)
250 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:19:35am |
re: #247 haakondahl
Tough call, Hon. Sounds like he's in deep and confronting this will not help either of you. {haak}
251 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:20:49am |
re: #247 haakondahl
I really enjoy the show "Life After People".
I, for one, do not need an "overlord" to tell me that the planet would do just fine without us.
Don't engage the friend... "Egon has gone bye-bye!"
252 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:21:19am |
re: #240 Iron Fist
Sometimes the Death Penalty is the only thing remotely akin to justice. An eye for an eye, a life for a life. It makes sense to me.
I don't know. In this case, we've got a guy in his late 30's, who murdered his kid, and made that child's life a misery for weeks beforehand.
That guy has had so many years that the child didn't get to have. He stole those years.
In a way, I'd rather this guy stay alive, in very unhappy conditions, for a long time. Because death alone lets him off too easy.
And people who kill kids, especially their own, aren't too well liked in prison. No-one there will buy the "it was an accident" bullshit, given that it'd apparently been going on for weeks.
253 | rightside Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:21:30am |
re: #239 soxfan4life
400Hz is more damaging physically, so in that sense yes. I did not work on any AC stuff on board, those are for the ships engineer ratings.
In addition to working on electrical circuits and power supplies/converters for our own equipment, we also learned hi power radar systems, digital electronics and signal processing, plus fiber optic lans and computing.
I'm sure I could pick up AC fairly easily though.
254 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:21:54am |
re: #247 haakondahl
I just got mail from a college friend of mine who is also a veteran, and who worked in Iraq providing security for people and things that needed to get froom point A to point B. He is a good guy with a great sense of humor, and a generous spirit.
All of which makes it even more difficult to read his Bilderberger, CFR, Luap Nor, Nazis-as-Darwinists, Soros, WorldNetDaily lunacy.
He wrote a conspiracy introduction to a Darwin-bashing "book review" posted to WND by petulant kook Ellis Washington. In his introduction, he announces that the History Channel program Life After People (based on the informative and engaging book) is one of the ways in which we are being programmed by our masters, evidence of our sinister overlords' view that "we are not needed in the future."I really want to engage him on this, but I absolutely dread the conversation. I would rather remember him the way I do now, and I fear that by engaging, all I will accomplish is to degrade the memory of an old friend. Still clinging to my illusion, I guess.
Keep the friendship and change the subject if he slips toward the dark side. The complication would be if his views have colored and overtaken his life.
255 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:22:47am |
re: #244 Irish Rose
Fry the bastard.
Ditto the judge who is now an accessory.
The man had a prior history of assaults, had the grandmother known better or had a decent attorney they could have filed a restraining order saying the kid was scared and requested supervised visits. That same Court, Worcester Probate and Family , was the one I had to deal with to get custody of my son. He was 11 years old and wanted to live with me, after his mother refused to take him to court ordered visits with the investigator I got him to one and after the investigators report was filed it still took over a year to get custody. They work meticulously and would definitely rule in the safety of the child. In divorce matters I have seen some crazy stuff there, but with kids they are really dilligent.
256 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:23:06am |
re: #242 songbird
That's terrible! Didn't anyone notice anything? Reporting abuse can be done anonymously so easily!
I'm not a eugenics fan, but some people should never be allowed to care for children.
The guy's girlfriend is up on charges for precisely that reason. She had to be aware.
I hate people who abuse children and the people who see it and don't intervene both.
257 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:24:08am |
Uh... I have to be at a meeting at 9 (eastern)... can't be late... uh... in a hotel ten minutes away from office.... I haven't even showered...
OH CRAP!
258 | rightside Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:25:35am |
re: #232 Lincolntf
That reminds me of the story of Haleigh Poutre from MA
259 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:25:52am |
re: #256 iceweasel
The guy's girlfriend is up on charges for precisely that reason. She had to be aware.
I hate people who abuse children and the people who see it and don't intervene both.
Agreed. My children and I were victims of abuse so it really bugs me to see when the kids are hurt. I'm also legally obligated to report since I'm a teacher. People are too afraid of what others will think to do the necessary things.
260 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:27:26am |
re: #259 songbird
Agreed. My children and I were victims of abuse so it really bugs me to see when the kids are hurt. I'm also legally obligated to report since I'm a teacher. People are too afraid of what others will think to do the necessary things.
(songbird)
You are a good and strong person and your kids and your students are lucky to have you.
261 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:31:23am |
I'd love to stay and chat but I have some pressing business this morning, have a good morning all!
262 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:31:55am |
Mark Sanford is back!
It turns out he wasn't on the Appalachian Trail.
He was in Buenos Aires! in Brazil.
Morning Joe is having a good laugh about it.
263 | midwestgak Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:32:44am |
John Calloway died of a heart attached last night.
264 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:34:00am |
re: #260 iceweasel
(songbird)
You are a good and strong person and your kids and your students are lucky to have you.
Thank you. That was another time and another life ago. My kids are ok now, making their own way in the world. I worry about my third born...the oldest daughter....who caught the brunt of things, but she is 20 now and she needs to act on what she's been taught.
Wish me luck looking for work out here! I don't mind the time off (I'm still getting paid for the summer). I just don't like waiting for interviews and such. It would be nice to do community college work instead of public school work, but I want to be where I am most needed and where my skills will be to the most benefit.
265 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:35:21am |
New agreement reached between the Globe and the Newspaper Guild. $10 million in savings on top of the $10 million negotiated with the 6 other unions.
[Link: www.myfoxboston.com...]
266 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:39:13am |
re: #232 Lincolntf
Morning all.
Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.
The court bears a degree of responsibility for giving the child to this stranger. The killer is not a legal stranger but, the child did not know this man who ended up torturing him for a month.
267 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:40:57am |
re: #247 haakondahl
I just got mail from a college friend of mine who is also a veteran, and who worked in Iraq providing security for people and things that needed to get froom point A to point B. He is a good guy with a great sense of humor, and a generous spirit.
All of which makes it even more difficult to read his Bilderberger, CFR, Luap Nor, Nazis-as-Darwinists, Soros, WorldNetDaily lunacy.
He wrote a conspiracy introduction to a Darwin-bashing "book review" posted to WND by petulant kook Ellis Washington. In his introduction, he announces that the History Channel program Life After People (based on the informative and engaging book) is one of the ways in which we are being programmed by our masters, evidence of our sinister overlords' view that "we are not needed in the future."I really want to engage him on this, but I absolutely dread the conversation. I would rather remember him the way I do now, and I fear that by engaging, all I will accomplish is to degrade the memory of an old friend. Still clinging to my illusion, I guess.
Sometimes the only thing to do is walk away.
268 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:41:54am |
re: #247 haakondahl
Sounds like you have a difficult challenge on your hands.
May I suggest a gentle approach, at least to begin?
My own experience has been that people who are really into the deep end of the pond of conspiracy are not very well connected to large set of social groups. Maybe not a true loner, but someone who has isolated relationships, if not outright mental illness.
Perhaps he just needs a friend to say "I don't believe that because...." without going on trying to hit him over the head with the cold truth?
269 | Lincolntf Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:43:00am |
Good article on the HuffPo question from yesterday. Obama's fave news source
270 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:43:17am |
Wow! Just Wow! Clicking on a link from a link from the toaster thread I found this:
Detroits Beautiful Horrible Decline
Which reminded me of this: Ghost Town
271 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:43:39am |
re: #252 iceweasel
I don't know. In this case, we've got a guy in his late 30's, who murdered his kid, and made that child's life a misery for weeks beforehand.
That guy has had so many years that the child didn't get to have. He stole those years.
In a way, I'd rather this guy stay alive, in very unhappy conditions, for a long time. Because death alone lets him off too easy.
And people who kill kids, especially their own, aren't too well liked in prison. No-one there will buy the "it was an accident" bullshit, given that it'd apparently been going on for weeks.
The father already knows how to handle himself in prison so I don't think much bad shit will happen to him there. Now, the girlfriend is a different story and I foresee her having a very hard time around women who are in prison for drug crimes and who have had to give up custody of their children to family members or the state.
272 | Sheepdogess Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:44:35am |
re: #237 MandyManners
While America watches and passes the nachos.
273 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:45:23am |
re: #255 soxfan4life
The man had a prior history of assaults, had the grandmother known better or had a decent attorney they could have filed a restraining order saying the kid was scared and requested supervised visits. That same Court, Worcester Probate and Family , was the one I had to deal with to get custody of my son. He was 11 years old and wanted to live with me, after his mother refused to take him to court ordered visits with the investigator I got him to one and after the investigators report was filed it still took over a year to get custody. They work meticulously and would definitely rule in the safety of the child. In divorce matters I have seen some crazy stuff there, but with kids they are really dilligent.
The grandmother lived in Georgia as did the child. What I want to know is why it was adjudicated in Maryland because that state had NO jurisdiction over the child. None.
274 | unreconstructed rebel Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:48:51am |
re: #266 MandyManners
The court bears a degree of responsibility for giving the child to this stranger. The killer is not a legal stranger but, the child did not know this man who ended up torturing him for a month.
This is too screwy for words. Why did the judge do that? Because the biological father sued, I suspect. I agree with you: the court has a responsibility to do due diligence in cases like this. I can't help but wonder if the custodial grandmother put up a fuss, or whether she was just glad to be rid of the kid.
275 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:49:27am |
re: #271 MandyManners
The father already knows how to handle himself in prison so I don't think much bad shit will happen to him there. Now, the girlfriend is a different story and I foresee her having a very hard time around women who are in prison for drug crimes and who have had to give up custody of their children to family members or the state.
You could be right....but even though the father's been in prison before, it hasn't been for a crime against children. Lots of male prisoners, even if they're horrible people, really hate anyone who hurts kids. That's why the paedos are always in danger there.
276 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:50:08am |
Pre-arranged questions for the president. We really don't have a free press anymore.
277 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:52:17am |
re: #272 Sheepdogess
While America watches and passes the nachos.
Many call Kate a "bitch" and I'm sure she has her bitchy moments but, she MUST be highly organized and bossy. Can you imagine the chaos eight kids could create if they didn't have firm boundaries and regimines?
278 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:52:40am |
It says the bio father knew he was the father all along, but only recently sued. Seems like there should be some statute of limitation on parental rights-- if you know you're the parent but never chose to be one (and you don't have a good reason, like being in a coma or something) why should you get to demand access to the child out of the blue like that? After years?
279 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:53:05am |
re: #274 unreconstructed rebel
This is too screwy for words. Why did the judge do that? Because the biological father sued, I suspect. I agree with you: the court has a responsibility to do due diligence in cases like this. I can't help but wonder if the custodial grandmother put up a fuss, or whether she was just glad to be rid of the kid.
From what I can tell, the court had no jurisdiction over the child. He lived in Georgia, not Maryland.
280 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:53:48am |
re: #275 iceweasel
You could be right....but even though the father's been in prison before, it hasn't been for a crime against children. Lots of male prisoners, even if they're horrible people, really hate anyone who hurts kids. That's why the paedos are always in danger there.
A lot of the prisoners were victims of abuse when they were young.
281 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:54:15am |
re: #273 MandyManners
The grandmother lived in Georgia as did the child. What I want to know is why it was adjudicated in Maryland because that state had NO jurisdiction over the child. None.
re: #273 MandyManners
The grandmother lived in Georgia as did the child. What I want to know is why it was adjudicated in Maryland because that state had NO jurisdiction over the child. None.
I think you meant Massachusetts not Maryland. But both parents live in the Worcester MA area. Looks like both parents had some problems and maybe living with grandma was the best thing for him. Unfortunately once the father got the DNA results he would be given visitation, but had the mother or her family voiced concerns there would have been supervised visits until an investigation was complete. I am well aware of how this court works. After I filed for custody of my son my ex-wife did just that and the court would only allow me supervised visits until her claims were proven unfounded and pure spite on her part.
282 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:54:34am |
Hola, lagartos. Metro is still pretty messed up. My half hour commute is now nearly an hour.
One of the victims was a retired Major General. His wife was also killed.
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]
283 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:55:37am |
re: #280 MandyManners
A lot of the prisoners were victims of abuse when they were young.
Yet another reason why they hate abusers, IMO.
284 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:56:13am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Many call Kate a "bitch" and I'm sure she has her bitchy moments but, she MUST be highly organized and bossy. Can you imagine the chaos eight kids could create if they didn't have firm boundaries and regimines?
No but I know what its like with 7 kids. Heh.
Kates style is not my wifes thank goodness, but even if it was that doesn't justify infidelity. Multiply the damage when many young children are involved. Neither gets parent of the year in my book.
I saw this train wreck coming years ago when they pimped out their family and didn't watch the show. I understand the need to support themselves but the whole situations was bad from the start. The brother in law making this all public (I did it for the kids sake) for his 15 minutes of fame is scum of the highest order.
285 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:58:41am |
re: #278 iceweasel
It says the bio father knew he was the father all along, but only recently sued. Seems like there should be some statute of limitation on parental rights-- if you know you're the parent but never chose to be one (and you don't have a good reason, like being in a coma or something) why should you get to demand access to the child out of the blue like that? After years?
It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. Despiite the oft-repeated mantra of "in the best interest of the child", some courts seem to believe that the parent's rights just as important. Makes me fucking sick. I spent about $85,000.00 on my divorce, employed firms in two different states, a P.I. and a trip to the appellate court at one point to force a court to recognize that the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act really was the law.
286 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Jun 24, 2009 5:59:34am |
Good morning Lizardia. I have an hour until I leave for the airport.
287 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:00:35am |
re: #278 iceweasel
It says the bio father knew he was the father all along, but only recently sued. Seems like there should be some statute of limitation on parental rights-- if you know you're the parent but never chose to be one (and you don't have a good reason, like being in a coma or something) why should you get to demand access to the child out of the blue like that? After years?
I agree with you!
The question has to be asked - why did this come out of the blue all of a sudden for this guy after so many years? i would be very suspicious of the motives; perhaps (or maybe even most likely), motives for this had nothing at all to do with anything good for the child.
288 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:01:03am |
re: #281 soxfan4life
I think you meant Massachusetts not Maryland. But both parents live in the Worcester MA area. Looks like both parents had some problems and maybe living with grandma was the best thing for him. Unfortunately once the father got the DNA results he would be given visitation, but had the mother or her family voiced concerns there would have been supervised visits until an investigation was complete. I am well aware of how this court works. After I filed for custody of my son my ex-wife did just that and the court would only allow me supervised visits until her claims were proven unfounded and pure spite on her part.
Woops! Got my "M" states confused. The grandmother had legal custody of the child, not the mother. If the child had lived in Georgia for six months, Georgia had jurisdiction over him.
289 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:01:29am |
re: #283 iceweasel
Yet another reason why they hate abusers, IMO.
Oh, yes. Many would not be there but for that.
291 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:02:07am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Many call Kate a "bitch" and I'm sure she has her bitchy moments but, she MUST be highly organized and bossy. Can you imagine the chaos eight kids could create if they didn't have firm boundaries and regimines?
Yes, she had to be highly organized.
But she wasn't just "bitchy", she could be downright mean and condescending.
And Jon was such a milquetoast in her company . . . he allowed her to run all over him. They were a bad combination.
292 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:02:33am |
re: #284 DaddyG
No but I know what its like with 7 kids. Heh.
Kates style is not my wifes thank goodness, but even if it was that doesn't justify infidelity. Multiply the damage when many young children are involved. Neither gets parent of the year in my book.
I saw this train wreck coming years ago when they pimped out their family and didn't watch the show. I understand the need to support themselves but the whole situations was bad from the start. The brother in law making this all public (I did it for the kids sake) for his 15 minutes of fame is scum of the highest order.
I watched the show's rerun last night and to call Jon a self-serving dickhead would be a kindness.
293 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:02:41am |
re: #285 MandyManners
It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. Despiite the oft-repeated mantra of "in the best interest of the child", some courts seem to believe that the parent's rights just as important. Makes me fucking sick. I spent about $85,000.00 on my divorce, employed firms in two different states, a P.I. and a trip to the appellate court at one point to force a court to recognize that the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act really was the law.
I'm so sorry you went through that. The system seems so messed up, in so many ways-- and the only time the media every pays attention is when there's a tragedy again, like this case.
But nothing ever seems to change, and soon it will be business as usual.
It's the good parents like you and soxfan4life who wind up suffering.
And the kids.
294 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:03:17am |
re: #262 sagehen
in Buenos Aires! in Brazil.
Replying to self... Buenos Aires is in Argentina. My bad.
295 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:03:38am |
re: #291 reine.de.tout
Yes, she had to be highly organized.
But she wasn't just "bitchy", she could be downright mean and condescending.
And Jon was such a milquetoast in her company . . . he allowed her to run all over him. They were a bad combination.
He should have found a stiffer spine before he let his wahoo get stiff.
296 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:03:57am |
re: #284 DaddyG
No but I know what its like with 7 kids. Heh.
Kates style is not my wifes thank goodness, but even if it was that doesn't justify infidelity. Multiply the damage when many young children are involved. Neither gets parent of the year in my book. . . .
.
and you're obviously not John. He has responsibility in this, too, for allowing Kate to run the show with hardly a peep most of the time, until things reached the point where he and Kate couldn't stand each other.
298 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:04:10am |
re: #276 FrogMarch
Pre-arranged questions for the president. We really don't have a free press anymore.
The traditional media is getting their shorts in a knot over the POTUS's calling on the new guys. The WH wanted a question from the Iranian people, but had no idea what the question would be.
299 | Rednek Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:04:18am |
re: #290 wintercat
Can't say for sure.
The photo in the photo looks like it may have been touched up, but I think a flash was used with background lighting. This gives it an odd look.
300 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:05:01am |
I am phobic in crowds, so I hope my family will forgive me if I stay in my daughter's apartment. There will be other festivities. I think I will go out for ice cream.
301 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:06:13am |
re: #295 MandyManners
He should have found a stiffer spine before he let his wahoo get stiff.
Yep.
But his weak spine is an integral part of his personality - he just went along, never putting his foot down . . . I would suspect he was attracted to Kate in the first place because he could "let" her just take over and handle things . . .and then it became demeaning to him and he had no clue how to get back any control.
302 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:06:38am |
re: #288 MandyManners
Woops! Got my "M" states confused. The grandmother had legal custody of the child, not the mother. If the child had lived in Georgia for six months, Georgia had jurisdiction over him.
Living in Worcester County the father would have filed in Worcester Court, but if the child lived in GA for 6 months Worcester should have sent the case there. Here in MA they do look out for the children, but also grant liberal visitation to the non-custodial parent. I imagine after the DNA test Dad went in and gave the judge a sob story about how he was denied access to the child because he wasn't named on the birth certificate. But I have to wonder why he tried for any visitation at all if this is what he was capable of doing. Anyhow, I hope the inmates at Walpole(MCI-Cedar Junction) give him his due.
303 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:07:33am |
re: #298 avanti
The traditional media is getting their shorts in a knot over the POTUS's calling on the new guys. The WH wanted a question from the Iranian people, but had no idea what the question would be.
I don't have a problem with "the new guy" - I have a problem with pre-arranged questions.
304 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:07:48am |
re: #287 reine.de.tout
I agree with you!
The question has to be asked - why did this come out of the blue all of a sudden for this guy after so many years? i would be very suspicious of the motives; perhaps (or maybe even most likely), motives for this had nothing at all to do with anything good for the child.
I guess the guy just had a sudden urge to play daddy. Probably was influenced partly because the child was a boy, and "daddy" thought he was finally old enough to be taught to be a man. Some crap like that.
As usual for narcissists, it's always about them. And I notice his excuse for beating and killing the child is that the child was "disrespecting" him.
Another classic narcissistic bully move. Who but a pathetic asshole has to beat his tiny son to death because he feels 'disrespected'?
I also note the fatal beating happened on Father's Day.
Ugh. I knew this story would upset me.
305 | Rednek Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:09:07am |
HaHaHa! Now all of George W. McHitler's cabal of well conected Haliburtonians and Neocons will reap the rewards of their immoral and genocidal war for oil.
Mwahahahahh!1!
306 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:09:32am |
re: #293 iceweasel
I'm so sorry you went through that. The system seems so messed up, in so many ways-- and the only time the media every pays attention is when there's a tragedy again, like this case.
But nothing ever seems to change, and soon it will be business as usual.
It's the good parents like you and soxfan4life who wind up suffering.
And the kids.
In my case, the system's flaw was in two courts. One thought it had jurisdiction and did not while the other refused to take jurisdiction until we went to the appellate court. By the time we got back to the trial level in that state, a new judge was on the bench, one who actually knew the law and applied it.
What scared me was that the first court--the one that thought it had jurisdiction--was about to award 50/50 custody to my (then) STBX when The Kid was an infant and who lived more than 1,000 miles away and was being breast-fed. Also, my STBX was in the military and his "job" meant that he could be deployed with a moment's notice and my infant would've been left with whomever he chose.
307 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:10:00am |
re: #252 iceweasel
I don't know. In this case, we've got a guy in his late 30's, who murdered his kid, and made that child's life a misery for weeks beforehand.
That guy has had so many years that the child didn't get to have. He stole those years.
In a way, I'd rather this guy stay alive, in very unhappy conditions, for a long time. Because death alone lets him off too easy.
And people who kill kids, especially their own, aren't too well liked in prison. No-one there will buy the "it was an accident" bullshit, given that it'd apparently been going on for weeks.
I'm a big fan of the death penalty. I wrote a long (winded) post years ago in response to somebody trying to point up hypocrisy concerning the calue of life among pro-life pro-death-penalty folks.
To me, the argument is economic in nature, in the sense that cost-benefit (pain/reward, satisfaction/frustration, call it what you like) decisions govern human behavior in most circumstances, and certainly inform those decisions in all but the most extreme situations.
A death penalty for murder increases the market value of human life by raising the price of destroying one. In more practical terms, there are mitigating arguments, and my hesitation to give any government (and its functional processes, juries included) life-and-death authority over the citizenry. So it is not so clean as it might be, even if every conviction were somehow guaranteed valid.
But my distaste for government power is tempered by by distaste for a lack of controls in society on the base impulses of some. If each person typically makes decisions on a somewhat rational basis (not necessarily well-thought-out, just thought-out to a person's ability and opportunity), at least most of the time, then the death penalty weighs decidedly in the Freedom vs. Security debate.
Just the same, I wouldn't presume to know what works to prevent the brutal beating murder of one's own son.
Having read the article now, my guess is child support payments, due, if not actually paid. With the 2002 burning death of his then three-year-old daughter, this guy sounds like a "problem-solver". Pure speculation. So on reflection, perhaps a bit more cost on the cost-benefit would have helped. Perhaps.
308 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:11:05am |
re: #298 avanti
The traditional media is getting their shorts in a knot over the POTUS's calling on the new guys. The WH wanted a question from the Iranian people, but had no idea what the question would be.
Why not ask a legit news source such as CNN who has also been praised for their Iran coverage? Did you read the part about plants being a no-no?Obviously the press has pimped themselves out to 0 and have no shame about it. Good luck trying to regain a legitmate footing ever again.
309 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:11:23am |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
Yep.
But his weak spine is an integral part of his personality - he just went along, never putting his foot down . . . I would suspect he was attracted to Kate in the first place because he could "let" her just take over and handle things . . .and then it became demeaning to him and he had no clue how to get back any control.
And, he looked around at his age and saw that he had eight kids and all kinds of reponsibilities.
He should've got a Corvette.
310 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:11:53am |
re: #303 FrogMarch
I don't have a problem with "the new guy" - I have a problem with pre-arranged questions.
It's not clear that the specific question was prearranged.
HuffPo and specifically Nico Pitney were doing the best work of covering events on the ground in Iran (Charles even linked Nico just the other day)
The WH was reading the coverage, and called HuffPo and NP to ask him to have some questions 'from Iranians"
It was actually a very clever way to manage to answer questions from Iranians right now, And it's worth noting that it was far from a softball question, it was the toughest question Obama got on Iran from anyone. from any organisation.
311 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:12:01am |
A quick question, "When did they stop selling CRT TVs?"
They had them last year, when we bought our plasma. They had them Christmas, when I last wandered through an electronics store. But now, they don't have them.
I know, outdated technology. But still, I wanted to replace a dead Phillips/RCA CRT with another 36" TV, cause it fits the hole in the electronics hutch perfectly. No go. And the new rectangular shaped TVs don't fit as well. Fit is very important to the wife-woman, in so many ways.
Once again, time has marched right my me. Honest, I just looked away for a moment, and now I'm behind again.
I think that I'll do like one of those hermit/recluse types, and just decide when was the perfect year and refuse to move ahead. They'll find my dessicated mummy/corpse decades in the future, and marvel at the perfect time capsule.
312 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:12:49am |
re: #302 soxfan4life
Living in Worcester County the father would have filed in Worcester Court, but if the child lived in GA for 6 months Worcester should have sent the case there. Here in MA they do look out for the children, but also grant liberal visitation to the non-custodial parent. I imagine after the DNA test Dad went in and gave the judge a sob story about how he was denied access to the child because he wasn't named on the birth certificate. But I have to wonder why he tried for any visitation at all if this is what he was capable of doing. Anyhow, I hope the inmates at Walpole(MCI-Cedar Junction) give him his due.
The court never should have entertained the motion for a paternity test if it did not have jurisdiction over the child.
313 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:12:52am |
re: #305 Rednek
HaHaHa! Now all of George W. McHitler's cabal of well conected Haliburtonians and Neocons will reap the rewards of their immoral and genocidal war for oil.
Mwahahahahh!1!
"No blood for oil!" Unless, of course, it goes over $75 a barrel....then, it changes to "there will be blood"
314 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:13:59am |
re: #286 Alouette
Good morning Lizardia. I have an hour until I leave for the airport.
good morning Alouette. Where are you heading?
315 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:14:13am |
re: #304 iceweasel
I guess the guy just had a sudden urge to play daddy. Probably was influenced partly because the child was a boy, and "daddy" thought he was finally old enough to be taught to be a man. Some crap like that.
As usual for narcissists, it's always about them. And I notice his excuse for beating and killing the child is that the child was "disrespecting" him.
Another classic narcissistic bully move. Who but a pathetic asshole has to beat his tiny son to death because he feels 'disrespected'?
I also note the fatal beating happened on Father's Day.Ugh. I knew this story would upset me.
He doesn't know that respect is earned.
316 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:14:28am |
re: #311 razorbacker
A quick question, "When did they stop selling CRT TVs?"
They had them last year, when we bought our plasma. They had them Christmas, when I last wandered through an electronics store. But now, they don't have them.
I know, outdated technology. But still, I wanted to replace a dead Phillips/RCA CRT with another 36" TV, cause it fits the hole in the electronics hutch perfectly. No go. And the new rectangular shaped TVs don't fit as well. Fit is very important to the wife-woman, in so many ways.
Once again, time has marched right my me. Honest, I just looked away for a moment, and now I'm behind again.
I think that I'll do like one of those hermit/recluse types, and just decide when was the perfect year and refuse to move ahead. They'll find my dessicated mummy/corpse decades in the future, and marvel at the perfect time capsule.
I've noticed that they stopped selling cars with built in 8-Tracks as well....what will I do with all of these Aerosmith, Blue Oyster Cult and Thin Lizzy 8-tracks now? :-)
317 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:14:32am |
re: #308 soxfan4life
Why not ask a legit news source such as CNN who has also been praised for their Iran coverage? Did you read the part about plants being a no-no?Obviously the press has pimped themselves out to 0 and have no shame about it. Good luck trying to regain a legitmate footing ever again.
Because CNN has been cribbing their newscoverage of Iran from Twitter, Andrew Sullivan, Kos and HuffPo. It's almost embarrassing.
maybe CNN is being praised *now*, but Iranians and others were using #CNNfail as a hashtag on twitter for days, in order to shame them into providing better coverage.
318 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:15:20am |
re: #291 reine.de.tout
Yes, she had to be highly organized.
But she wasn't just "bitchy", she could be downright mean and condescending.
And Jon was such a milquetoast in her company . . . he allowed her to run all over him. They were a bad combination.
He married her. In for a penny, in for a pound.
319 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:15:56am |
re: #304 iceweasel
I guess the guy just had a sudden urge to play daddy. Probably was influenced partly because the child was a boy, and "daddy" thought he was finally old enough to be taught to be a man. Some crap like that.
As usual for narcissists, it's always about them. And I notice his excuse for beating and killing the child is that the child was "disrespecting" him.
Another classic narcissistic bully move. Who but a pathetic asshole has to beat his tiny son to death because he feels 'disrespected'?I also note the fatal beating happened on Father's Day.
Ugh. I knew this story would upset me.
He was probably looking for a government hand out. His welfare would be increased if he had a dependant child.
320 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:16:20am |
Good morning y'all from a pleasant (72 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charloot!
How is everyone doing this morning?
321 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:17:58am |
re: #318 haakondahl
He married her. In for a penny, in for a pound.
Yes. However, if he just couldn't take it any more, he should've filed for a divorce instead of screwing around with a younger woman. Actually, it fits his pattern of forcing Kate to do the dirty work, i.e., file for the divorce. And, his whining now about her doing so is over the fucking top.
322 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:18:17am |
re: #320 realwest
Good morning y'all from a pleasant (72 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charloot!
How is everyone doing this morning?
I'd take that weather in a heartbeat.....currently 87 here in PHX at 615am, heading to a lovely and toasty 108 today this afternoon.....every summer, I ask myself, "Why do I live here?"
323 | Ojoe Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:18:26am |
re: #311 razorbacker
I would like a car with wind wings, a floor mounted headlight dimmer switch, and rain gutters to hook a roof rack on, and a tail gate plus separate upper window (on a station wagon).
All night thread and only 300+ comments? Must be the summer doldrums.
Here is this morning's Towercam, it is not remarkable.
San Gabriel Mountains.
Good Morning; BBL
324 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:18:29am |
re: #320 realwest
Good morning y'all from a pleasant (72 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charloot!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Good morning realwest. Hot and steamy here in Louisville.
325 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:18:44am |
re: #319 KenJen
He was probably looking for a government hand out. His welfare would be increased if he had a dependant child.
He had a month of parenting time, not custody.
326 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:19:11am |
re: #312 MandyManners
After re-reading the article, I have to ask if the boy lived in GA why would the court give the father a court order for a summer visit before school was out. I could see if it was after school, but it says the boy was abused for at least 8 weeks and the mother got him on the weekends when he was up here with the father. Lots of fishy statements all around.The truly sad part is it should have never been allowed to happen.
327 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:19:20am |
re: #320 realwest
Good morning y'all from a pleasant (72 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charloot!
How is everyone doing this morning?
I've already started laundry and started chopping the veggies for dinner.
328 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:19:39am |
re: #303 FrogMarch
I don't have a problem with "the new guy" - I have a problem with pre-arranged questions.
It's been going on for years. The POTUS knows he want to talk about a certain subject, and calls on a reporter that he knows is going to ask about it, but without knowing what the question will be. I'll admit the left gave Bush flack for using Fox to do just what Obama did with Huffington.
He wanted to show he was paying attention to the Iranian people, and knew that Huffington could help him do that. It's not like it was a secret, he asked for a question from Iran, and got it. If either he or another POUTUS knew the question, I'd have a issue, but better then the question about how many smokes the POTUS sneaks.
329 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:19:55am |
re: #320 realwest
Good morning, it's hot & stinky here in Toronto, day 3 of the garbage strike
330 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:19:57am |
re: #325 MandyManners
He had a month of parenting time, not custody.
Exactly, if anything he was looking at being on the hook for child support, as mentioned above.
331 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:20:12am |
re: #326 soxfan4life
After re-reading the article, I have to ask if the boy lived in GA why would the court give the father a court order for a summer visit before school was out. I could see if it was after school, but it says the boy was abused for at least 8 weeks and the mother got him on the weekends when he was up here with the father. Lots of fishy statements all around.The truly sad part is it should have never been allowed to happen.
The court had no right to decide anything if it did not have jurisdiction.
332 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:20:14am |
re: #316 Desert Dog
I've noticed that they stopped selling cars with built in 8-Tracks as well....what will I do with all of these Aerosmith, Blue Oyster Cult and Thin Lizzy 8-tracks now? :-)
Bring those wookies to me!
333 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:20:18am |
re: #321 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy - hope you're doing well today!
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but according to F&F this morning he and Kate signed a seperation agreement EIGHT YEARS AGO but didn't bother telling anyone.
I've never watched the show and have only a nodding acquaintance with the show, but thought I'd throw that out there for whatever its worth.
334 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:21:04am |
re: #328 avanti
It's been going on for years. The POTUS knows he want to talk about a certain subject, and calls on a reporter that he knows is going to ask about it, but without knowing what the question will be. I'll admit the left gave Bush flack for using Fox to do just what Obama did with Huffington.
He wanted to show he was paying attention to the Iranian people, and knew that Huffington could help him do that. It's not like it was a secret, he asked for a question from Iran, and got it. If either he or another POUTUS knew the question, I'd have a issue, but better then the question about how many smokes the POTUS sneaks.
Prove it.
335 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:21:14am |
re: #314 KenJen
good morning Alouette. Where are you heading?
New York, Brooklyn, to celebrate my son's engagement.
336 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:21:46am |
re: #308 soxfan4life
Why not ask a legit news source such as CNN who has also been praised for their Iran coverage? Did you read the part about plants being a no-no?Obviously the press has pimped themselves out to 0 and have no shame about it. Good luck trying to regain a legitmate footing ever again.
Because Huffington had kicked CNN's ass with it's internet coverage of Iranian bloggers. We even talked about the job they were doing here.
337 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:21:49am |
re: #330 iceweasel
Exactly, if anything he was looking at being on the hook for child support, as mentioned above.
I wonder if he'd paid a cent ever.
338 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:22:12am |
re: #316 Desert Dog
I've noticed that they stopped selling cars with built in 8-Tracks as well....what will I do with all of these Aerosmith, Blue Oyster Cult and Thin Lizzy 8-tracks now? :-)
Hell, send them to me. I'll also accept 1911 Colt .45s. I'll take '60s models Corvettes in running condition. I'll take high-dollar turntables in working order. I'll take pre-'64 Winchester 70s chambered in...well...any size, really.
I love old technology that still works as intended. Chucking out something that still does the job as advertised is not Luddite, it is simply economically and ecologically prudent.
But what I'll do is either built a couple of new shelves in the electronics hutch to fill the empty space left over from the LCD TV, or make some type of drop down fascia to cover the hole.
339 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:22:26am |
re: #320 realwest
Good morning y'all from a pleasant (72 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charloot!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Charloot! :-)
340 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:22:51am |
re: #333 realwest
Good morning Mandy - hope you're doing well today!
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but according to F&F this morning he and Kate signed a seperation agreement EIGHT YEARS AGO but didn't bother telling anyone.
I've never watched the show and have only a nodding acquaintance with the show, but thought I'd throw that out there for whatever its worth.
That's O'Reilly's claim. Unless he has the filing, he can stuff it.
341 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:23:08am |
re: #331 MandyManners
The court had no right to decide anything if it did not have jurisdiction.
I'll wait and see if a custody order for the grandmother appears. The family saying it and it being true is 2 different things. But even if it was the case I don't believe the court would issue a visitation order in the middle of a school year. They wouldn't do it in my case which was 2 counties in the same state.
342 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:23:32am |
re: #334 MandyManners
The way I read that HuffPo question is that someone at the White House did their homework and saw that HuffPo had better coverage on the Iranian situation than anyone else. The question does raise issues of how closely the White House is trying to coordinate with media outlets, and the problem is that the media should be doing things at arms length and the White House has been coopting them for some time now.
343 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:23:55am |
re: #327 MandyManners
I've already started laundry and started chopping the veggies for dinner.
Whoa, you're sure not letting any grass grow underfoot today! I've already, uh, brushed my teeth, shaved, showered and eaten breakfast!
My ambition today is to make until nap time without falling back to sleep!
:)
344 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:24:03am |
re: #337 MandyManners
I wonder if he'd paid a cent ever.
My uninformed guess is that he did not, and did not want to start. On getting our of prison and (presumably) finding a job (don't know what the timeline is), he must have known that the bill would come due. Without any evidence, I think that this explains the "why now?" question.
346 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:24:45am |
re: #338 razorbacker
Urm. If that said Not before chucking it would make better sense. I'd better check into the coffee situation.
347 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:24:47am |
re: #327 MandyManners
I've already started laundry and started chopping the veggies for dinner.
I need to get off my lazy butt and go to work out, do laundry and continue my job hunting.
And on top of that, my dear husband, beloved Mr. Songbird, introduced me to Mafia Wars on Facebook........very addicting!
348 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:24:49am |
re: #328 avanti
It's been going on for years. The POTUS knows he want to talk about a certain subject, and calls on a reporter that he knows is going to ask about it, but without knowing what the question will be. I'll admit the left gave Bush flack for using Fox to do just what Obama did with Huffington.
He wanted to show he was paying attention to the Iranian people, and knew that Huffington could help him do that. It's not like it was a secret, he asked for a question from Iran, and got it. If either he or another POUTUS knew the question, I'd have a issue, but better then the question about how many smokes the POTUS sneaks.
The US MSM has nobody to blame but themselves for the current relationship with the Obama administration. Most of them pumped up Obama, failed to fully vet him, ignored every single questionable item that came up and got "tingly feelings" up their legs during the campaign. Now, when Obama looks to use them as lapdogs, they are surprised? Bush used FOX News a little, but he got nothing but sh*t from the rest of the media almost his entire 8 years in office.
Now, ABC is prostituting itself in the name of El Presidente....pathetic is one word that comes to my mind.
349 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:25:31am |
re: #345 Iron Fist
I know how you feel. Sometimes I just want to yell "Stop for a minute!" Technology is great, and it is good in so many ways, but everything just moves so fast. I have a six year old computer system and another system that is about four years old. They are both obsolete. I can't even butcher them for parts, really. Things like DVD burners that were rad cutting edge tools are now standard equipment. That is good, I guess, but sometimes the flow of time and the march of progress are unsettling.
I'd like to take a time out.
You should see my museum of obsolete computing.
350 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:26:02am |
re: #329 Kenneth
Good morning, it's hot & stinky here in Toronto, day 3 of the garbage strike
Morning Kenneth - day 3 huh? How long before the citizenry start to scream "pay 'em what they want!"?
Seriously, y'all could make a fortune if you could find a few gross of those face masks intended to prevent folks from catching the flu and sell 'em on the street corners of Toronto!
351 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:26:02am |
re: #348 Desert Dog
Disgusting is another word that comes to mind.
352 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:26:06am |
353 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:26:19am |
re: #332 haakondahl
Bring those wookies to me!
The sad things is I actually have a few boxes of 8-tracks in the garage. My kids get a good laugh at my 8-track, cassette tape and LP collection. My oldest suggested I donate them to the local museum.
354 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:26:25am |
re: #341 soxfan4life
I'll wait and see if a custody order for the grandmother appears. The family saying it and it being true is 2 different things. But even if it was the case I don't believe the court would issue a visitation order in the middle of a school year. They wouldn't do it in my case which was 2 counties in the same state.
Some school districts get out earlier than others. The Kid's been out of school for about five weeks.
355 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:26:25am |
re: #319 KenJen
He was probably looking for a government hand out. His welfare would be increased if he had a dependant child.
My first guess was that he was trying to impress the new girlfriend.
356 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:27:05am |
re: #325 MandyManners
He had a month of parenting time, not custody.
The article said summer custody. I have a feeling money was involved in his wanting the child.
357 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:27:21am |
re: #342 lawhawk
The way I read that HuffPo question is that someone at the White House did their homework and saw that HuffPo had better coverage on the Iranian situation than anyone else. The question does raise issues of how closely the White House is trying to coordinate with media outlets, and the problem is that the media should be doing things at arms length and the White House has been coopting them for some time now.
Knowing about FCBBHO's relationship with ABC, I'd say very closely.
358 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:27:26am |
Interesting Washington Times article about the "journalists" in attendance here.
The last 2 paragraphs imply that interns and foreign office reporters are unusual in a press briefing. Anyone know about this? Is this SOP or not?
A slew of nonworking "journalists" stood along one side of the room. One woman, who identified herself as working for "Hungary News TV," took pictures with a small camera throughout the hour. Another very young woman stood among the working reporters, taking no notes. Asked afterward who she was, Rebecca Cooper, a reporter for WJLA-Channel 7 in Washington, stepped in to answer: "She's an intern."
"Everybody wants to see an Obama press conference!" she said happily.
359 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:28:00am |
re: #343 realwest
Whoa, you're sure not letting any grass grow underfoot today! I've already, uh, brushed my teeth, shaved, showered and eaten breakfast!
My ambition today is to make until nap time without falling back to sleep!
:)
I knew there was something I'd forgotten to do.
360 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:28:10am |
re: #334 MandyManners
Prove it.
All this despite the fact this press conference was as planned out as possible. Like last time, Bush let slip that the selection of reporters to ask questions was pre-planned: at one point when several reporters were jockeying to be next, he said “I’ve got some ‘must calls,’ I’m sorry.”
361 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:28:19am |
re: #356 KenJen
The article said summer custody. I have a feeling money was involved in his wanting the child.
Probably child support like was noted earlier.
362 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:28:38am |
re: #339 songbird
Yeppers, Charloot! What else do you call a city that has the county it's in charge a sales tax on, among other things..............a sales tax?!
And let's not even talk about the penny a mile vehicle tax!
363 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:28:54am |
re: #344 haakondahl
My uninformed guess is that he did not, and did not want to start. On getting our of prison and (presumably) finding a job (don't know what the timeline is), he must have known that the bill would come due. Without any evidence, I think that this explains the "why now?" question.
Was he even ordered to pay CS?
364 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:29:37am |
re: #347 songbird
I need to get off my lazy butt and go to work out, do laundry and continue my job hunting.
And on top of that, my dear husband, beloved Mr. Songbird, introduced me to Mafia Wars on Facebook........very addicting!
I'm glad I've chosen to restrict my Internet fun.
365 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:29:47am |
re: #340 MandyManners
That's O'Reilly's claim. Unless he has the filing, he can stuff it.
Whoa hey, I said it was on F&F - didn't know O'Reilly said it, didn't mean to step on anyones toes.......backs sloooowly away from monitor......!
366 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:29:58am |
re: #323 Ojoe
I would like a car with wind wings, a floor mounted headlight dimmer switch, and rain gutters to hook a roof rack on, and a tail gate plus separate upper window (on a station wagon).
All night thread and only 300+ comments? Must be the summer doldrums.
Here is this morning's Towercam, it is not remarkable.
San Gabriel Mountains.Good Morning; BBL
If it makes you feel any better, you can buy several high-end automobiles with 'new-fangled' push button starters. "Back to the Future".
Can wind wings for efficient ventilation be far behind in this eco-friendly world?
Don't know what you're going to do about the dimmer switch (I've just now gotten completely used to driving without one. I just about jerked the turn signal lever clean out of the steering column when last I drove the '67 convertible), roof gutters, and that tailgate thing. That last really was better, but I'll bet it was more expensive.
367 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:30:43am |
re: #362 realwest
Yeppers, Charloot! What else do you call a city that has the county it's in charge a sales tax on, among other things..............a sales tax?!
And let's not even talk about the penny a mile vehicle tax!
That is bizarre. I don't think such a think is heard of here in the peoples republic of Maryland. (Lets not give them any ideas, ok? *wink*)
368 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:30:51am |
re: #321 MandyManners
Yes. However, if he just couldn't take it any more, he should've filed for a divorce instead of screwing around with a younger woman. Actually, it fits his pattern of forcing Kate to do the dirty work, i.e., file for the divorce. And, his whining now about her doing so is over the fucking top.
Exactly.
The guy can't make a decision, waits for "mommy" (Kate) to do it for him.
Sore subject with me, I was married to one like him for awhile.
It was not pleasant nor pretty.
369 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:30:57am |
re: #356 KenJen
The article said summer custody. I have a feeling money was involved in his wanting the child.
I don't know where I got a month.
370 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:31:40am |
re: #345 Iron Fist
I know how you feel. Sometimes I just want to yell "Stop for a minute!" Technology is great, and it is good in so many ways, but everything just moves so fast. I have a six year old computer system and another system that is about four years old. They are both obsolete. I can't even butcher them for parts, really. Things like DVD burners that were rad cutting edge tools are now standard equipment. That is good, I guess, but sometimes the flow of time and the march of progress are unsettling.
I'd like to take a time out.
I just recently cleaned out my basement, which is (or I should say was) a computer graveyard. I had 9 old computers (one dating back to the mid '80s) basically just collecting dust and doing nothing. For kicks and giggles, I attempted to turn them all on just to see if they still worked. 8 of them did. Then the debate of space vs. nostalgia took over, and space won. Most of them went to freecycle, the rest into storage.
I'm definitely a technological pack-rat at times.
371 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:32:04am |
re: #360 avanti
This line right out of the blog you posted.
Mr Bush: you are the President of the United States – it shouldn’t come as a surprise that a reporter will put you on the spot.
When do you suppose a reporter will put President Obama on the spot? They are more apt to leave a Monica-like spot when they are done.
372 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:32:38am |
re: #334 MandyManners
I have to agree with avanti on this. Presidential press conference T-ball has been a standard Washington sport for decades. The President's press secretary knows who the "good guys" are and have been known to pre-arrange things...."you know, the President has a very important remark on blah-blah issue, and whoever were to ask him about it, his name would be on every byline tomorrow and his face on the 6 o'clock news... just saying."
373 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:32:51am |
Heading out to the airport now. Will check in from Brooklyn once I connect to my daughter's wireless.
374 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:32:54am |
re: #358 WinterCat
Interesting Washington Times article about the "journalists" in attendance here.
The last 2 paragraphs imply that interns and foreign office reporters are unusual in a press briefing. Anyone know about this? Is this SOP or not?
WJLA-Channel 7 is an ABC affiliate.
375 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:33:01am |
re: #361 soxfan4life
Probably child support like was noted earlier.
Missed that. Just woke up as you may have noticed. Have not read all threads.
376 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:33:16am |
I'm off to finally do something productive. Have a great morning, Lizards!
378 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:33:30am |
For those following the ongoing story about the DC Metro crash, one of the victims happened to be the general who gave the order to scramble aircraft over DC on 9/11.
379 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:33:47am |
re: #375 KenJen
Missed that. Just woke up as you may have noticed. Have not read all threads.
MUST HAVE COFFEE.
380 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:33:58am |
re: #360 avanti
All this despite the fact this press conference was as planned out as possible. Like last time, Bush let slip that the selection of reporters to ask questions was pre-planned: at one point when several reporters were jockeying to be next, he said “I’ve got some ‘must calls,’ I’m sorry.”
This may be true, but compare the two Presidents. Which one is being covered like a rock star with hordes of drooling reporters practically doing everything short of tossing panties on the stage. You cannot equivocate what is going on with the MSM and Obama to what Bush had during his time....sorry.
381 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:33:59am |
re: #358 WinterCat
Interesting Washington Times article about the "journalists" in attendance here.
The last 2 paragraphs imply that interns and foreign office reporters are unusual in a press briefing. Anyone know about this? Is this SOP or not?
I have no idea, but letting the them watch it live or on TV, makes little difference to me. If the foreign office reporters and interns get a kick out of a "back stage pass", I don't care.
382 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:34:06am |
re: #328 avanti
It's been going on for years. The POTUS knows he want to talk about a certain subject, and calls on a reporter that he knows is going to ask about it, but without knowing what the question will be. I'll admit the left gave Bush flack for using Fox to do just what Obama did with Huffington.
He wanted to show he was paying attention to the Iranian people, and knew that Huffington could help him do that. It's not like it was a secret, he asked for a question from Iran, and got it. If either he or another POUTUS knew the question, I'd have a issue, but better then the question about how many smokes the POTUS sneaks.
ugh - typical response. I don't remember pre-arranged questions for GWB from anyone in the the media - including Fox.
383 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:34:26am |
re: #374 MandyManners
So that means that interns are the norm? I am just curious. I would think that space would be at a premium and having an intern along might be a luxury, but I don't know.
384 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:34:47am |
re: #365 realwest
Whoa hey, I said it was on F&F - didn't know O'Reilly said it, didn't mean to step on anyones toes.......backs sloooowly away from monitor......!
LOL! Between their divorce, the kid who was killed by his father and the MFM's whoring for FCBBHO, I'm kinda' fired up this morning.
385 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:34:53am |
re: #358 WinterCat
Interesting Washington Times article about the "journalists" in attendance here.
The last 2 paragraphs imply that interns and foreign office reporters are unusual in a press briefing. Anyone know about this? Is this SOP or not?
I think interns are excited to get into a presser at the WH, no matter who the president is. Wouldn't you be?
And as for foreign reporters....this was obviously going to be a presser where world issues (Iran) came up, so I don't find their presence suspect.
(I'd be surprised if foreign office reporters typically attended every WH briefing, especially all the ones focussing on domestic policy though)
Also-- there's a difference between the standard WH briefing, and one where POTUS is present. I'd expect there to always be more interest when the POTUS is up.
386 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:35:25am |
re: #368 reine.de.tout
Exactly.
The guy can't make a decision, waits for "mommy" (Kate) to do it for him.
Sore subject with me, I was married to one like him for awhile.
It was not pleasant nor pretty.
I hate passive-aggressive assholes.
387 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:36:11am |
re: #345 Iron Fist
re: #349 haakondahl
The wife-woman wanders out to the shop (I've got to learn to keep that door shut), stares around the shelves, and says, "Why do you have all these old computers laying around?"
"For parts, Darling. I'll use the parts someday."
"How come every time you need a part for a computer you go and buy a new part?"
"Because these are obsolete and the RAM and such doesn't fit anymore."
"So how come you have all these old computers laying around?"
"I told you, for parts, Sweetheart." Women. They can be so dense sometimes. Bless their hearts.
388 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:36:12am |
re: #371 soxfan4life
This line right out of the blog you posted.
Mr Bush: you are the President of the United States – it shouldn’t come as a surprise that a reporter will put you on the spot.
When do you suppose a reporter will put President Obama on the spot? They are more apt to leave a Monica-like spot when they are done.
Major Garrett put him on the spot.
389 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:36:31am |
re: #373 Alouette
Heading out to the airport now. Will check in from Brooklyn once I connect to my daughter's wireless.
Vaya con Dios!
390 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:36:44am |
Dear Mr. President,
It has come to my attention that Moishe in Jerusalem widened his driveway the other day.
Just thought you would want to know.
Regards,
Mahmoud
391 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:37:21am |
re: #377 Iron Fist
Why should we be surprised by this? CNN was vetting its coverage of Iraq with Saddam Hussein. Whatever I may think of the current occupant of the White House, I will submit that he isn't as bad as Saddam Hussein. The real question is why should we believe any of the crap from any of them? The so-called standard bearers like the NYT and CNN are a joke, and there aren't any of them, really, that is any better than the others.
I wonder if CNN wishes it had Eason Jordan back in order to manage ShortShit.
392 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:38:04am |
re: #360 avanti
All this despite the fact this press conference was as planned out as possible. Like last time, Bush let slip that the selection of reporters to ask questions was pre-planned: at one point when several reporters were jockeying to be next, he said “I’ve got some ‘must calls,’ I’m sorry.”
Mandy, just a quick note to thank you for asking for proof, then even a upding. I know we don't often agree, but we both seem to just want the truth and I'm cool with that.
393 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:38:07am |
re: #334 MandyManners
Prove it.
Are we seething over the Huff'n'puff reporter at the Obama news conference. This is a non-issue, and not even true. I know, I read it here at LGF yesterday.
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394 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:38:26am |
re: #385 iceweasel
I am not questioning if the interns would be excited or not. I am questioning if their presence is typical. My reading of the article is that the writer thinks the press was stacked with non-essential people. I was wondering about that.
395 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:38:39am |
re: #388 MandyManners
Major Garrett put him on the spot.
They talked about that on the radio yesterday, saying that it was disrespectful to the President.
396 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:38:56am |
re: #383 WinterCat
So that means that interns are the norm? I am just curious. I would think that space would be at a premium and having an intern along might be a luxury, but I don't know.
FCBBHO has a deal with ABC to propagate his intent to socialize health care.
398 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:39:36am |
re: #394 WinterCat
I am not questioning if the interns would be excited or not. I am questioning if their presence is typical. My reading of the article is that the writer thinks the press was stacked with non-essential people. I was wondering about that.
Groupies?
For Bush, it was the shoe tossers and seething Bush haters packing the hall
400 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:39:46am |
re: #380 Desert Dog
This may be true, but compare the two Presidents. Which one is being covered like a rock star with hordes of drooling reporters practically doing everything short of tossing panties on the stage. You cannot equivocate what is going on with the MSM and Obama to what Bush had during his time....sorry.
If you are implying that the press corps likes Obama more the Bush, you'd have my complete agreement.
401 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:39:59am |
re: #393 Walter L. Newton
Are we seething over the Huff'n'puff reporter at the Obama news conference. This is a non-issue, and not even true. I know, I read it here at LGF yesterday.
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What? No OUTRAGE?!
402 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:40:36am |
re: #395 soxfan4life
They talked about that on the radio yesterday, saying that it was disrespectful to the President.
Oh, for fuck's sake. So, Helen Thomas was the picture of respect to Pres. Bush?
403 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:40:46am |
re: #397 WinterCat
Yes, the more I listen the more I like Micheal Graham.
404 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:40:50am |
re: #367 songbird
Fine by me (no winks!). It's already embarrassing enough to live in Mecklenburg County (wherein resides Charloot and an addtional two hundred some odd thousand "fly over folk" who USED to go to Charloot to go to work, but since commerce in Charloot has dropped preciptiously and there isn't any more work now look out of state for work) which is really spread out all over the damm place with little to zero public transportation, knowing folks NEED cars and light trucks for their homes, job searching and shopping, Charloot now adds that stupid Penny per mile tax and a sales tax on a sales tax.
405 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:41:04am |
re: #382 FrogMarch
ugh - typical response. I don't remember pre-arranged questions for GWB from anyone in the the media - including Fox.
Jeff Gannon.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
406 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:41:32am |
re: #395 soxfan4life
They talked about that on the radio yesterday, saying that it was disrespectful to the President.
BS, Garrett asked a tough question and put the POTUS on the spot, just doing his job. Credit to Obama for calling on him knowing that though.
407 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:41:37am |
In what appeared to be a coordinated exchange, President Obama called on the Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney near the start of his press conference and requested a question directly about Iran.
“Nico, I know you and all across the Internet, we’ve been seeing a lot of reports coming out of Iran,” Obama said, addressing Pitney. “I know there may actually be questions from people in Iran who are communicating through the Internet. Do you have a question?”
Pitney, as if ignoring what Obama had just said, said: “I wanted to use this opportunity to ask you a question directly from an Iranian.”
He then noted that the site had solicited questions from people in the country “who were still courageous enough to be communicating online.”
“Under which conditions would you accept the election of Ahmadinejad, and if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there, isn’t that a betrayal of the — of what the demonstrators there are working towards?”
Reporters typically don’t coordinate their questions for the president before press conferences, so it seemed odd that Obama might have an idea what the question would be. Also, it was a departure from White House protocol by calling on The Huffington Post second, in between the AP and Reuters.
CBS Radio’s Mark Knoller, a veteran White House correspondent, said over Twitter it was “very unusual that Obama called on Huffington Post second, appearing to know the issue the reporter would ask about.”
Hmmm...
408 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:42:02am |
re: #402 MandyManners
Seems as though the listeners didn't share this belief.
409 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:42:03am |
re: #403 soxfan4life
Me too. Jay Severin has always irritated me. I was one of the few who was not sorry during his absence.
410 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:42:10am |
re: #399 Iron Fist
I've got a friend that is the worst about it. He has a computer business on the side. Has had since we were kids. He has an incredible amount of old parts. 32-pin SIMMs, old hard drives, shit like that. Ever once and a while he will run across a need for something, but damn it wastes a lot of space :-)
I'm looking for a magnetic ore memory for a Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-1 computer?
/
411 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:42:37am |
re: #407 Kenneth
It's not a scandal. It's an everyday occurrence.
412 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:42:42am |
re: #398 Desert Dog
Groupies?
For Bush, it was the shoe tossers and seething Bush haters packing the hall
Now be fair. The shoethrowing happened at a press conf in Baghdad, and it was an Iraqi journalist who threw it.
It wasn't Helen Thomas flinging a waterballoon packed with pee in the Rose Garden. :)
413 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:42:51am |
Here's something worth wasting time on. The top 70 Marvel Comics covers.
[Link: marvel.com...]
415 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:43:20am |
re: #400 avanti
If you are implying that the press corps likes Obama more the Bush, you'd have my complete agreement.
It's not a matter of just liking him more. Most of the reporters in that room yesterday voted for him and used their positions to help get him elected....and now, some are even openly schilling his policies....ABC.
416 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:16am |
re: #394 WinterCat
I am not questioning if the interns would be excited or not. I am questioning if their presence is typical. My reading of the article is that the writer thinks the press was stacked with non-essential people. I was wondering about that.
They were not seated with the press, just hanging out in the room. Personally, I like giving the interns a chance to get close to the action, but not Bill Clinton close.
417 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:28am |
re: #377 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - you can say that again! Wait, I'll save you the trouble:
Why should we be surprised by this? CNN was vetting its coverage of Iraq with Saddam Hussein. Whatever I may think of the current occupant of the White House, I will submit that he isn't as bad as Saddam Hussein. The real question is why should we believe any of the crap from any of them? The so-called standard bearers like the NYT and CNN are a joke, and there aren't any of them, really, that is any better than the others.
!
418 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:29am |
re: #407 Kenneth
Hmmm...
Politico and others have updated that, though, either retracting the claim that it was "co-ordinated' or acknowledging the WH statement.
419 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:34am |
....Next week Obama will appear exclusively on Al Jazeera to promote his Mid-East peace plan.
420 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:45am |
re: #401 MandyManners
What? No OUTRAGE?!
My bad, we are we seething and OUTRAGED over this, according to what I read on LGF yesterday, but we shouldn't, because this is a non-issue, and not even true. Huffington didn't do anything, they were just doe-eyed innocent little reporters who stumbled on to this wonderful opportunity to ask a pre-arranged softball question.
Again, my bad.
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421 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:49am |
re: #411 Killgore Trout
In my opinion, the relationship between the media and Obama is a scandal and an everyday occurrence.
But as for prearranging a "good topic for a question" Obama is not the first president to do it.
422 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:44:53am |
re: #409 WinterCat
Howie Carr is better anyway. Too bad WTKK wasn't able to get him when they tried. I kind of wish they had moved Michelle McPhee to Jay's spot but maybe she wasn't interested because of her reporting or book writing.
423 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:45:14am |
re: #399 Iron Fist
Every couple of decades or so I'll have a ruthless clean-out. If I haven't actually used something in the past 15 years, out it goes.
Usually, within a month or so, I'm back at a store of some sort buying another of whatever I've thrown out, because now I've got to have it again.
I'm working on the perfect home-place. A small, easy to keep up house surrounded by outbuildings filled to the brim with all my crrrrap that I can't keep in the house anymore.
And a garage that holds 4 cars and still has room to strew about parts and such.
A man can dream, can't he?
424 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:45:19am |
re: #399 Iron Fist
Morning all. It sure does waste space. A few months ago I decided to shit can all the computer stuff I had laying around the garage. I couldn't believe the stuff I held on to. With two boys who always want the latest and greatest computer in combination with stuff I bought at auction that was retired here at work I had amassed an entire pickup load of stuff. Scanners, printers, monitors, keyboards, speakers, computers, and on and on. Fortunately they don't charge to dump e-waste. I must have chucked what cost me $10-15k right in the dumpster. Hard to do but felt relieved to get rid of it.
425 | Desert Dog Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:45:30am |
re: #412 iceweasel
Now be fair. The shoethrowing happened at a press conf in Baghdad, and it was an Iraqi journalist who threw it.
It wasn't Helen Thomas flinging a waterballoon packed with pee in the Rose Garden. :)
Yes, the shoe tossing was in Iraq...but, I am sure most of the WH Press corp secretly wanted to toss their shoes at him as well. The same cannot be said about Obama.....they want to toss him roses and ask for his autograph so they can take it home and add it to the little Obama shrine they proably have in their house. :-)
426 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:45:58am |
re: #411 Killgore Trout
It's not a scandal. It's an everyday occurrence.
According to comments I read here yesterday, it wasn't even true. Seems to me it's grew some legs, and now you are shifting your position (as per your comment above).
427 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:46:11am |
re: #405 sagehen
Jeff Gannon.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, when he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered "so friendly it might have been planted."
The majority of press was openly hostile to GWB - and "Jeff Gannon" was ostracized after this happened.
Everyone knows the press is easy on Obama. Everyone knows the press voted for Obama.
428 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:46:59am |
re: #410 Walter L. Newton
I'm looking for a magnetic ore memory for a Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-1 computer?
/
I can make you some with a screen door and a collection of Soviet wedding rings.
429 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:47:13am |
re: #427 FrogMarch
Actually, that's not the only problem with Jeff Gannon.
How did he have a press pass at all?
430 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:47:16am |
re: #407 Kenneth
From my link above a Bush conference:
At one point he actually said, “I wish you would have given me this written question ahead of time, so I could plan for it. ” And later: “…you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I’m not as quick on my feet as I should be…”
All this despite the fact this press conference was as planned out as possible. Like last time, Bush let slip that the selection of reporters to ask questions was pre-planned: at one point when several reporters were jockeying to be next, he said “I’ve got some ‘must calls,’ I’m sorry.”
431 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:47:40am |
re: #412 iceweasel
Now be fair. The shoethrowing happened at a press conf in Baghdad, and it was an Iraqi journalist who threw it.
It wasn't Helen Thomas flinging a waterballoon packed with pee in the Rose Garden. :)
You shouldn't make jokes about that unfortunate incident involving Helen's urine bag.
432 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:48:12am |
re: #416 avanti
Yes, but my point is how the heck did these people rate getting in in the first place? I mean, aren't there enough (fawning) journalists for the WH to choose from without having to stack the room with people who don't represent the MSM?
433 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:48:16am |
re: #412 iceweasel
Now be fair. The shoethrowing happened at a press conf in Baghdad, and it was an Iraqi journalist who threw it.
It wasn't Helen Thomas flinging a waterballoon packed with pee in the Rose Garden. :)
And it was Cronkite's pee.
434 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:48:50am |
re: #423 razorbacker
Every couple of decades or so I'll have a ruthless clean-out. If I haven't actually used something in the past 15 years, out it goes.
Usually, within a month or so, I'm back at a store of some sort buying another of whatever I've thrown out, because now I've got to have it again.
I'm working on the perfect home-place. A small, easy to keep up house surrounded by outbuildings filled to the brim with all my crrrrap that I can't keep in the house anymore.
And a garage that holds 4 cars and still has room to strew about parts and such.
A man can dream, can't he?
I am currently planning a move right now, and I have been living in a 500 square foot apartment for a little over 4 years. I moved in here with almost nothing, and yet, after 4 years, I am AGAIN, throwing out a lot of crap I don't need.
It's amazing what we collect, what makes us comfortable, whether is serves any more of a purpose than to make us feel good.
435 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:49:04am |
re: #407 Kenneth
Hmmm...
Thanks for the link. I was trying to find that article but I was looking for Michael Corleone, not Michael Calderone.
436 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:49:04am |
re: #420 Walter L. Newton
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Careful, you are approaching uber-sarc.
438 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:49:26am |
re: #418 iceweasel
Politico and others have updated that, though, either retracting the claim that it was "co-ordinated' or acknowledging the WH statement.
UPDATE: Deputy press secretary Bill Burton responds: "We did reach out to him prior to press conference to tell him that we had been paying attention to what he had been doing on Iran and there was a chance that he’d be called on. And, he ended up asking the toughest question that the President took on Iran. In the absence of an Iranian press corps in Washington, it was an innovative way to get a question directly from an Iranian."
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: "Huffington Post's Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference."
UPDATE 3: Pitney says the White House reached out about his Iran coverage, but only said it was possible he'd get a question.
It sounds to me like the White house not only prearranged the question, but they also post-arranged the response. You have to be pretty naive to think this wasn't set-up or that politicians haven't been doing this since forever.
439 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:49:28am |
re: #428 haakondahl
I can make you some with a screen door and a collection of Soviet wedding rings.
That was golden.
440 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:49:51am |
441 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:49:57am |
re: #408 soxfan4life
Seems as though the listeners didn't share this belief.
How did the hosts respond?
442 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:50:06am |
re: #415 Desert Dog
It's not a matter of just liking him more. Most of the reporters in that room yesterday voted for him and used their positions to help get him elected....and now, some are even openly schilling his policies....ABC.
But ABC is simply interested in bringing this all so important health care issue to us poor uninformed Americans - right. You probably read the ABC exec's come back to the Republican senators who wrote the complaint letter to him - it's up on Drudge. What a line of BS.
443 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:50:26am |
re: #395 soxfan4life
Um, IMO, it wasn't disrespectful of the President - he works for us; you can of course say Major Garrett was being disrepectful to the Office of the President of the United States, but you'd be wrong on that. Or rather the radio stations would be wrong on that.
Me, I'm still trying to figure out what President Obama has against FOX News!
444 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:50:39am |
Iceweasle
I looked up your post I held up for dispute yesterday....it was oddly written but does appear you were quoting someone else...I take back the accusation and apopologize
445 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:50:50am |
re: #419 KenJen
....Next week Obama will appear exclusively on Al Jazeera to promote his Mid-East peace plan.
Cool... maybe he can do a point-counterpoint session with Ayman al-Zawahiri!
446 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:51:08am |
re: #414 Iron Fist
He'd be perfect for that. They could give 24-7 coverage to Jimmy Carter announcing that the Iranian elections were free and fair (NOTE: to my knowledge, Carter hasn't really done that. But he sure has been quite on them in general. It wouldn't do to actually make any noise about an unfair election. Unless it is in Idahoe or something)
Maybe Carter's cottoning to the fact that his bullshit is being detected.
447 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:51:35am |
It's time to settle in for the long haul. Despite the regime's attempts to crack down and crush the opposition, this is likely going to play out over the next few weeks and months. It will ebb and flow, but the regime is not going to resemble what it had been before.
Ahmadinejad may end up with far more power and control, exceeding even that of Khamenei. The Guardian Council may be no more.
Or, Mousavi and the opposition could topple the regime.
In any case, the veneer of democracy in Iran has been shattered by Ahmadinejad and Khamenei's power play to grab the election through outright fraud.
Now, the regime is busy going after foreign nationals, including Brits, who they continue to blame for the ongoing disturbances in the country.
This, of course, comes from a regime that had no qualms about sending kids into minefields to blow them up so that the men with guns could get through. It's also the same regime that funds and supports terrorist groups like Hamas and Hizbullah, both of which murder people with alarming regularity for standing in their way. This is a regime that cares nothing for its people, and the people have taken notice.
448 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:51:40am |
re: #429 iceweasel
Actually, that's not the only problem with Jeff Gannon.
How did he have a press pass at all?
I know - the outrage! How did someone friendly to GWB get in there?
We all know only Democrats are allowed to have a friendly press corp.
449 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:51:49am |
re: #420 Walter L. Newton
My bad, we are we seething and OUTRAGED over this, according to what I read on LGF yesterday, but we shouldn't, because this is a non-issue, and not even true. Huffington didn't do anything, they were just doe-eyed innocent little reporters who stumbled on to this wonderful opportunity to ask a pre-arranged softball question.
Again, my bad.
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Don't let it happen again.
450 | Pianobuff Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:51:56am |
re: #415 Desert Dog
It's not a matter of just liking him more. Most of the reporters in that room yesterday voted for him and used their positions to help get him elected....and now, some are even openly schilling his policies....ABC.
To the degree that even Obama makes jokes about it.
Makes me wonder, though, do you think any of the press might have been feeling a wee bit burned in front of the public by Obama's snark at the correspondence dinner. Funny for Obama, perhaps, but embarrassing for any reporter that might have a remaining shred of journalistic decency.
The fact that Stephanopolous brought up media bias/Obama's Fox obsession has me now speculating that maybe some are telegraphing or sending up trial balloons for tougher coverage.
Based on recent network news ratings and all-time lows by nightly news broadcasts they may feel they have no choice.
I know, it's wishful thinking, but I'm not quite awake yet so maybe my thoughts are still muddled.
451 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:52:39am |
re: #437 WinterCat
No I haven't. But I wasn't a big fan of Micheal Smirkanish when they had him on.
452 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:52:40am |
re: #432 WinterCat
Yes, but my point is how the heck did these people rate getting in in the first place? I mean, aren't there enough (fawning) journalists for the WH to choose from without having to stack the room with people who don't represent the MSM?
Huffington embarrassed the MSN with their internet coverage of Iranians on the net, and the traditional MSN got their feelings hurt when Obama gave them the credit they deserved. Obama has called on the far right net too, remember the nirther question ?
453 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:52:51am |
Home > News > World
EXCLUSIVE: U.S. contacted Iran's ayatollah before election
Administration overture to Khamenei ridiculed in sermon
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Gee that work out great ha?
454 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:53:12am |
re: #444 albusteve
Iceweasle
I looked up your post I held up for dispute yesterday....it was oddly written but does appear you were quoting someone else...I take back the accusation and apopologize
Hey albusteve,
Thank you for the apology, and for taking the time to go back and look.
This was very gentlemanly of you, and also intellectually honest. I respect you for it and I appreciate it.
Cheers, ice
455 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:53:19am |
re: #441 MandyManners
I thought he (the host, Jay Severin) was respectful of those people who did not agree with him. Not too fond of the guy. He just got back on the air after being bounced off for saying some ugly remarks about Mexicans.
456 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:53:20am |
re: #423 razorbacker
I finally got fed up stumbling over the shit I've been collecting for 20 years and rented a 40 yard dumpster. Couldn't believe what a pack rat I had been, I was jumping up and down on that stupid thing by the time I was finished cleaning up.
457 | karmic_inquisitor Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:53:51am |
Killgore -
It looks like the Washington Post has become part of the vast right wing conspiracy mill on the issue of planted questions at the press conference:
Pitney recognized his prompt. "That's right," he said, standing in the aisle and wearing a temporary White House press pass. "I wanted to use this opportunity to ask you a question directly from an Iranian."
Pitney asked his arranged question. Reporters looked at one another in amazement at the stagecraft they were witnessing. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel grinned at the surprised TV correspondents in the first row.
The use of planted questioners is a no-no at presidential news conferences, because it sends a message to the world -- Iran included -- that the American press isn't as free as advertised. But yesterday wasn't so much a news conference as it was a taping of a new daytime drama, "The Obama Show." Missed yesterday's show? Don't worry: On Wednesday, ABC News will be broadcasting "Good Morning America" from the South Lawn (guest stars: the president and first lady), "World News Tonight" from the Blue Room, and a prime-time feature with Obama from the East Room.
"The Obama Show" was the hottest ticket in town yesterday. Forty-five minutes before the start, there were no fewer than 107 people crammed into the narrow aisles, in addition to those in the room's 42 seats. Japanese and Italian could be heard coming from the tangle of elbows, cameras and compressed bodies: "You've got to move! . . . Oh, God, don't step on my foot!" Some had come just for a glimpse of celebrity. And they wanted to know all about him. "As a former smoker, I understand the frustration and the fear that comes with quitting," McClatchy News's Margaret Talev empathized with the president before asking him how much he smokes.
This is a breakdown of the relationship between the media and the White House. The press have been co opted into becoming "part of the team" to "get the message out."
They no longer see the job as to investigate, scrutinize and inform - their job now is to educate dullards like me - the dullards who fail to see Obama as a sort of political savior for this country.
Anyway - there it is. A WaPo columnist indulging in a "right wing conspiracy theory" that is certain to undermine his credibility ...
459 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:54:05am |
re: #438 Kenneth
And, he ended up asking the toughest question that the President took on Iran
I'm howling with laughter.
460 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:54:16am |
461 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:54:26am |
re: #456 turn
I finally got fed up stumbling over the shit I've been collecting for 20 years and rented a 40 yard dumpster. Couldn't believe what a pack rat I had been, I was jumping up and down on that stupid thing by the time I was finished cleaning up.
Can I look in it, there may be something I want.
462 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:54:44am |
Politicians and the media co-ordinating with each other?!
Knock me over with a wet noodle- I'll be damned.
463 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:54:48am |
re: #441 MandyManners
How did the hosts respond?
The host brought up the disrespect issue and the listeners didn't think it was. The host went with it.
464 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:55:00am |
re: #443 realwest
Me, I'm still trying to figure out what President Obama has against FOX News!
Fox News refuses to worship Him as thoroughly as the other networks. That is an insult to The One. (see Narcissistic supply)
465 | karmic_inquisitor Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:55:02am |
re: #457 karmic_inquisitor
The link :
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
466 | legalpad Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:56:21am |
re: #435 MandyManners
Thanks for the link. I was trying to find that article but I was looking for Michael Corleone, not Michael Calderone.
467 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:56:33am |
Report: SC gov was in Argentina, not hiking trail
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford was in Argentina during a dayslong unexplained absence, not hiking the Appalachian Trail as his staff told the public when state leaders raised questions about his whereabouts, the governor told a newspaper.
The State reported that Sanford arrived Wednesday morning at Atlanta's international airport on a flight from Buenos Aires.
WTH?
468 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:56:46am |
re: #407 Kenneth
Someone at the WH must have done their homework and knew that Nico Pitney's coverage has been superior to that of everyone else in the media on the Iranian situation. I think it was the right call to push that to the forefront from Obama's political standpoint, since it shows that he's engaged and up to date on the situation - media saavy.
His actual actions and statements to date have been a muddled mess - and he gets serious demerits for calling the situation in Iran a debate. Last time I checked, people aren't murdered in debate.
469 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:56:55am |
re: #434 Walter L. Newton
It's amazing what we collect, what makes us comfortable, whether is serves any more of a purpose than to make us feel good.
And that right there is the whole point, I guess.
I don't need it, but I own it, and throwing it out somehow invalidates my previous judgment. Makes no sense in any logical way, but there I am.
Sometimes this 'examined life' really sucks, what with the chilling insights into yourself it provides.
'Cause right now, the only logical conclusion is that I'm somewhat of a high-functioning moron. And some days the functionality ain't that high.
470 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:57:05am |
PersianKiwi - things sound bad:
just in from Baharestan Sq - situation today is terrible - they beat the ppls like animals - #Iranelection RT RT RT
I see many ppl with broken arms/legs/heads - blood everywhere - pepper gas like war - #Iranelection
they were waiting for us - they all have guns and riot uniforms - it was like a mouse trap - ppl being shot like animals #Iranelection
TehranBureau written updates and notes from people
471 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:57:42am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
Report: SC gov was in Argentina, not hiking trail
WTH?
That is a really really really strange situation. Really strange.
472 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:57:48am |
re: #450 Pianobuff
re: #450 Pianobuff
Makes me wonder, though, do you think any of the press might have been feeling a wee bit burned in front of the public by Obama's snark at the correspondence dinner. Funny for Obama, perhaps, but embarrassing for any reporter that might have a remaining shred of journalistic decency.
Heck, they did everything but give him a standing ovation!
The fact that Stephanopolous brought up media bias/Obama's Fox obsession has me now speculating that maybe some are telegraphing or sending up trial balloons for tougher coverage.
It seems that way. What's a crying shame is that it is not the MFM's job to send up trial balloons--that's for setting policy. The policy of the MFM is to report with neither fear nor favor.
474 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:58:01am |
re: #434 Walter L. Newton
I am currently planning a move right now, and I have been living in a 500 square foot apartment for a little over 4 years. I moved in here with almost nothing, and yet, after 4 years, I am AGAIN, throwing out a lot of crap I don't need.
It's amazing what we collect, what makes us comfortable, whether is serves any more of a purpose than to make us feel good.
The older I get the less I need to make me comfortable. It's down to a comfortable pair of socks and comfortable underwear. And the underwear part is optional?
476 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:58:38am |
re: #461 Walter L. Newton
Can I look in it, there may be something I want.
How much "filthy" lucre did you score the other day?
477 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:58:41am |
478 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:58:58am |
re: #455 WinterCat
I thought he (the host, Jay Severin) was respectful of those people who did not agree with him. Not too fond of the guy. He just got back on the air after being bounced off for saying some ugly remarks about Mexicans.
Another racist asshole on the radio?
480 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:59:21am |
re: #447 lawhawk
Hey LH, watched MsNBC briefly this AM getting dressed for work. The news ticker had a blurp about Mousavi withdrawing his candidacy for the sake of the country. Is that true? I didn't see anything at myway or Drudge.
481 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:59:33am |
re: #442 turn
Hi turn! Wonder why ABC won't allow paid commercials during their Obama Special on Health Care, where those commercials question aspects or all of Obamacare?!
482 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:59:36am |
re: #475 lawhawk
I'll take the Chagalls and Picassos.
I'm partial to the Vermeer paintings, if they're available.
483 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 6:59:47am |
re: #448 FrogMarch
I know - the outrage! How did someone friendly to GWB get in there?
We all know only Democrats are allowed to have a friendly press corp.
I updinged you because that was funny-- but it is weird that Gannon had a pass. For one thing, Jeff Gannon isn't his name. For another, he didn't have much of a journalistic background when he got one. The whole story about Gannon is pretty damn weird, even if you accept (as I do) that all press conferences are stage managed to some extent.
[Link: dir.salon.com...]
485 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:09am |
re: #459 MandyManners
And, he ended up asking the toughest question that the President took on Iran
I'm howling with laughter.
Not only did the White House prearrange the question, the prearranged the spin on the question.
"Ok, that kid from Huffpo is going to ask the T-ball question on Iran. When you report on it, be sure to call it a "tough question", ok?"
486 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:12am |
re: #456 turn
I finally got fed up stumbling over the shit I've been collecting for 20 years and rented a 40 yard dumpster. Couldn't believe what a pack rat I had been, I was jumping up and down on that stupid thing by the time I was finished cleaning up.
most people probably don't know how big 40yds is....that's ALOT! of stuff
487 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:29am |
PersianKiwi again:
saw 7/8 militia beating one woman with baton on ground - she had no defense nothing - #Iranelection sure that she is dead
so many ppl arrested - young & old - they take ppl away - #Iranelection - we lose our group
488 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:31am |
re: #463 soxfan4life
The host brought up the disrespect issue and the listeners didn't think it was. The host went with it.
What about WinterCat's No. 455, that Severin got bounced for racism?
489 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:48am |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
That is a really really really strange situation. Really strange.
There's more:
Sanford told The State he was alone on the trip to Argentina. He declined to give any additional details about what he did other than to say he drove along the coastline.
Trying to make such a drive could frustrate a weekend visitor to Argentina. In Buenos Aires, the Avenida Costanera is the only coastal road, and it's less than two miles long. Reaching coastal resorts to the south requires a drive of nearly four hours on an inland highway with views of endless cattle ranches. To the north is a river delta of islands reached only by boat.
Still sounds like he's not being honest.
490 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:55am |
re: #421 Kenneth
He was invited to a press conference because he's famous for his excellent coverage of Iran.
491 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:00:58am |
re: #453 Nevergiveup
Home > News > World
EXCLUSIVE: U.S. contacted Iran's ayatollah before election
Administration overture to Khamenei ridiculed in sermon[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Gee that work out great ha?
I wonder if the love letter was scented with Obama's cologne?
492 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:00am |
re: #462 Sharmuta
Politicians and the media co-ordinating with each other?!
Knock me over with a wet noodle- I'll be damned.
Yeah, let's alert the media. Oh wait....
494 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:07am |
495 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:14am |
re: #468 lawhawk
I find it interesting that he never answers a question directly. Even friendly questions.
Also, I thought the laughs he got at the expense of John McCain were pathetic. Not a McCain fan but Obama's remark, "What do you think?" when asked if he was influenced by McCain's criticism was incredibly arrogant.
496 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:19am |
497 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:29am |
re: #443 realwest
Um, IMO, it wasn't disrespectful of the President - he works for us; you can of course say Major Garrett was being disrepectful to the Office of the President of the United States, but you'd be wrong on that. Or rather the radio stations would be wrong on that.
Me, I'm still trying to figure out what President Obama has against FOX News!
Obama plays the press like a violin. Fox wants some time with the rock star too, and I predict will soon get it. Maybe another Bill O'reilly set down, better yet Glenn Beck. :)
498 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:33am |
499 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:40am |
re: #468 lawhawk
That's the Obama White House: media savvy, policy stupid.
500 | Pianobuff Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:48am |
501 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:01:52am |
re: #447 lawhawk
Morning lawhawk! Is it true that there are still 13 foreign journalists being held in Iranian prisons? Do you know and do you know from which countries those journalists hail?!
502 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:02:00am |
re: #456 turn
I finally got fed up stumbling over the shit I've been collecting for 20 years and rented a 40 yard dumpster. Couldn't believe what a pack rat I had been, I was jumping up and down on that stupid thing by the time I was finished cleaning up.
When we moved to Katy, Texas from Paducah I went ahead to start the job. When the house sold and the wife moved to Katy, she didn't want to throw away any of my stuff, cause you don't know what is important to your spouse (you think that you do, but you don't).
When the movers rolled into Katy, they had a tractor-tailer load of stuff, and my wife was driving U-Haul's largest truck, and my brother was driving another. The daughter was driving one car, stuffed beyond safety, and my other brother was driving the convertible.
First thing we did was rent a couple of storage buildings. Then we had a kick-ass yard sale a couple of months later so we could get rid of one of the storage buildings.
Junk. It was all junk. But it was my junk.
503 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:02:02am |
re: #494 Walter L. Newton
Clarify?
A day or two ago, you were telling people to send you their "filthy" 100's to jump start your immune system.
I was asking how much you scored.
504 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:02:31am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
Report: SC gov was in Argentina, not hiking trail
WTH?
got a little chica on the side down there?
505 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:02:48am |
re: #489 Sharmuta
He might be genuinely eccentric or he might have a mistress/gay lover or something. If his wife doesn't care then I don't either.
506 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:02:52am |
re: #492 iceweasel
Yeah, let's alert the media. Oh wait....
It's like a symbiotic-parasitic relationship between elected officials and the press. They both need each other and I think they both hate it.
507 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:03:00am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
Report: SC gov was in Argentina, not hiking trail
WTH?
I dated a guy in college whose father did something similar when under a lot of pressure. The SEC was investigating him for insider trading and it apparently flipped his lid.
509 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:03:26am |
re: #458 buzzsawmonkey
Dibs on the Rembrandts.
ha, I did have reservations about throwing out something valuable by mistake. I had turnspawn2 and the turnwife throwing stuff away when I was at work and I had to go dumpster diving to retrieve stuff I needed and use. I was worried about them throwing out something valuable.
510 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:03:29am |
re: #474 Nevergiveup
The older I get the less I need to make me comfortable. It's down to a comfortable pair of socks and comfortable underwear. And the underwear part is optional?
Well, I will admit, when I moved into here, I didn't have very much, and I was comfortable with that, more so than I have ever been.
And even though I say I cluttered up this place in the last 4 years, I'm talking about Goodwill and used "toys."
I've stilled simplified my life, and there is nothing like the pissing away of money like I use to do.
And when I move in Aug., I will probably be bringing even less to my new location.
511 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:03:40am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
Report: SC gov was in Argentina, not hiking trail
WTH?
He made a wrong turn, but must have been too exhausted to hike back.
512 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:03:53am |
re: #479 buzzsawmonkey
Once I sell the Rembrandts, I can buy my own Chagalls and Picassos.
You'll have the Monet to do it.
514 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:04:48am |
re: #485 Kenneth
Is it Pennsylvania Avenue or Broadway?
515 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:04:52am |
re: #490 Killgore Trout
Yes, and Obama's staff knew he would be a good man to ask a question on Iran.
UPDATE: Deputy press secretary Bill Burton responds: "We did reach out to him prior to press conference to tell him that we had been paying attention to what he had been doing on Iran and there was a chance that he’d be called on. And, he ended up asking the toughest question that the President took on Iran. In the absence of an Iranian press corps in Washington, it was an innovative way to get a question directly from an Iranian."UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: "Huffington Post's Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference."
UPDATE 3: Pitney says the White House reached out about his Iran coverage, but only said it was possible he'd get a question.
You are exceptionally naive if you think this wasn't prearranged.
516 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:04:55am |
re: #478 MandyManners
In my view, the guy really is. He is also a wicked sexist but women who call practically throw their undergarments through the phone. I don't understand his appeal.
517 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:05:18am |
re: #505 Killgore Trout
He might be genuinely eccentric or he might have a mistress/gay lover or something. If his wife doesn't care then I don't either.
I wouldn't care either, but lying to staff and the people of his state over a vacation? Not cool and not necessary if everything is on the up and up. But that's the way it goes- the lie is usually worse than the transgression.
518 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:05:19am |
re: #501 realwest
At least one from Canada, of Iranian heritage.
519 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:05:24am |
PersianKiwi:
ppl run into alleys and militia standing there waiting - from 2 sides they attack ppl in middle of alleys #Iranelection
all shops was closed - nowhere to go - they follow ppls with helicopters - smoke and fire is everywhere #Iranelection
520 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:05:39am |
re: #500 Pianobuff
Yeah, I know... pathetic. I certainly wouldn't expect a mass movement, but if even a few of them went home that night with their head hung in shame that would be a start....
Prick their consciences?
521 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:05:47am |
re: #503 reine.de.tout
A day or two ago, you were telling people to send you their "filthy" 100's to jump start your immune system.
I was asking how much you scored.
Oh, I remember. Zero, I scored Zero, which, if I use the presidents track record as a metric, I'm batting a hundred.
522 | razorbacker Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:06:00am |
Nine AM. I'm going to bestir my lazy behind and get...busy isn't the right word but that's the one I'm going to use...busy doing something semi-productive.
Y'all have a good day.
Avanti, if you have any interesting Studebaker factoids, please hold them until I get back.
523 | Pianobuff Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:06:02am |
re: #513 buzzsawmonkey
I can even put Degas in de car if de price per gallon goes up.
I'd upsize to a larger vehicle so we can all watch the Van Gogh.
524 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:06:03am |
0:02 AM ET --
More bloody accounts from today's rally. From a reliable Iranian on Twitter, @persiankiwi: "I see many ppl with broken arms/legs/heads - blood everywhere - pepper gas like war... ppl run into alleys and militia standing there waiting - from 2 sides they attack ppl in middle of alleys...
saw 7/8 militia beating one woman with baton on ground - she had no defense nothing -... so many ppl arrested - young & old - they take ppl away"This sounds awful.
9:36 AM ET -- Shooting in In Baharestan Square reported. Unconfirmed messages are coming in about today's opposition rally from several usually reliable Iranians, all variations of this: "In Baharestan Sq. in the Police shooting, A girl is shot and the police is not allowing to let them help!"
525 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:06:33am |
re: #508 buzzsawmonkey
Normally, but if there's tongue involved it's just an ordinary gunsel thing.
Oh, ick.
526 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:07:22am |
re: #461 Walter L. Newton
Can I look in it, there may be something I want.
There was some stuff of value, which is why I kept pack ratting it. Planned to have a huge garage sell but realized I would be packing most of it back up. Most of the stuff we collected at garage sells. At any rate garage sells are a waste of time, you end up working for a couple of days and end up with about enough money to go out to dinner. So I just decided to chuck everything and quit going to garage sells. How can you live in 500 sq ft and be looking for more stuff Walter?
527 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:07:31am |
re: #522 razorbacker
Avanti, if you have any interesting Studebaker factoids, please hold them until I get back.
Just sold a Avanti, and bought a Avanti powered GT that should be on ebay in a week.
528 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:07:40am |
re: #508 buzzsawmonkey
Normally, but if there's tongue involved it's just an ordinary gunsel thing.
I had to look that word up. Thanks a lot bozo//////
529 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:08:07am |
If our president insists on meeting with these Iranian thugs- he will pay in 2012.
531 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:08:35am |
re: #488 MandyManners
What about WinterCat's No. 455, that Severin got bounced for racism?
I missed that particular show, but apparently he called illegal mexicans leeches and disease carriers during the swine flu scare. Totally inappropriate for radio.
532 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:08:38am |
re: #526 turn
There was some stuff of value, which is why I kept pack ratting it. Planned to have a huge garage sell but realized I would be packing most of it back up. Most of the stuff we collected at garage sells. At any rate garage sells are a waste of time, you end up working for a couple of days and end up with about enough money to go out to dinner. So I just decided to chuck everything and quit going to garage sells. How can you live in 500 sq ft and be looking for more stuff Walter?
Just kidding about looking for more stuff. Making a point, we all pack-rat I think.
533 | Pianobuff Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:08:41am |
re: #520 MandyManners
Prick their consciences?
Well, maybe it's a longshot but between that and network revenue loss maybe the coverage will change, even if slightly.
534 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:08:46am |
re: #514 MandyManners
Is it Pennsylvania Avenue or Broadway?
It's Chicago, baby and the tap dancin', smooth talkin' lawyer in the Press Conference Rag
535 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:09:05am |
re: #517 Sharmuta
I wouldn't care either, but lying to staff and the people of his state over a vacation? Not cool and not necessary if everything is on the up and up. But that's the way it goes- the lie is usually worse than the transgression.
Definitely in this case. It's only worse that they put out the word he was hiking on the Appalachian Trail. It's always the coverup that kills, more than the initial transgression.
Lies. Lies. Lies. That's all we get from his staff. That's all we get from his people. That's all we get from him," said state Sen. Jake Knotts, R-West Columbia. "Why all the big cover-up?"
The Republican governor told the South Carolina newspaper he decided at the last minute to go to the South American country. The governor says he had considered hiking on the Appalachian Trail but wanted to do something "exotic."
And so a new meme has entered the netroots for the foreseeable future.
'I wanted to do something exotic."
536 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:09:19am |
re: #464 Kenneth
Fox News refuses to worship Him as thoroughly as the other networks. That is an insult to The One. (see Narcissistic supply)
Well I sure hope that they keep insulting him. In fact I hope they ratchet it up a notch, seeing as how other journalists can't think of anything to ask POTUS that POUTUS hasn't already put out there, and they just ask him questions designed to enable him to get his message out to Ma and Pa America as the "truth" (it was on the TV News for cryin' out loud, it hadda be true!).
537 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:09:46am |
re: #529 Sharmuta
If our president insists on meeting with these Iranian thugs- he will pay in 2012.
I'll settle for him losing his filibuster proof congress and Senate in 2010 to stop the hemorrhaging of green.
538 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:10:44am |
re: #511 avanti
He made a wrong turn, but must have been too exhausted to hike back.
He shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque!
539 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:10:54am |
re: #535 iceweasel
And so a new meme has entered the netroots for the foreseeable future.
'I wanted to do something exotic."
I did something exotic yesterday. I pushed my cart at Goodwill down the isles ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ISLES.
What a thrill.
541 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:11:07am |
re: #513 buzzsawmonkey
I can even put Degas in de car if de price per gallon goes up.
Parirsh the thought.
(I'm bummed I missed that thread.)
542 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:11:11am |
re: #535 iceweasel
It will be interesting how last minute this really was. I'm sure they will check when he purchased his ticket.
543 | Pianobuff Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:11:28am |
re: #536 realwest
Well I sure hope that they keep insulting him. In fact I hope they ratchet it up a notch, seeing as how other journalists can't think of anything to ask POTUS that POUTUS hasn't already put out there, and they just ask him questions designed to enable him to get his message out to Ma and Pa America as the "truth" (it was on the TV News for cryin' out loud, it hadda be true!).
Did you see the Harry Smith interview with O? He asked Obama how he felt about Bush calling him "treacherous". Obama laughed.
Worst thing is Obama's response made him look like this really fair-minded guy after he spent the last two years trashing Bush right and left.
544 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:11:32am |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Morning reine - I have some friends in S.C. who think he checked into a medical facility for some sort of tests and can't keep his stories straight to cover up that fact.
545 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:11:43am |
re: #516 WinterCat
In my view, the guy really is. He is also a wicked sexist but women who call practically throw their undergarments through the phone. I don't understand his appeal.
Takes every kind of people.
546 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:12:19am |
re: #529 Sharmuta
If our president insists on meeting with these Iranian thugs- he will pay in 2012.
From your lips....
547 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:12:30am |
re: #469 razorbacker
And that right there is the whole point, I guess.
I don't need it, but I own it, and throwing it out somehow invalidates my previous judgment. Makes no sense in any logical way, but there I am.
Sometimes this 'examined life' really sucks, what with the chilling insights into yourself it provides.
'Cause right now, the only logical conclusion is that I'm somewhat of a high-functioning moron. And some days the functionality ain't that high.
So true, now that you mention it deep down I do feel a bit empty for throwing that stuff away. Hell, I don't need it but I thought I did at the time I bought it. Ever thing back at all the money you've wasted in your life buying stuff that were rarely used? Fancy toys and cloths for the kids, computer stuff, kitchen appliances, and on and on. Keeps the economy going I guess but what a waste.
548 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:12:37am |
re: #541 MandyManners
Parirsh the thought.
(I'm bummed I missed that thread.)
Was it a thread you louvred?
550 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:12:43am |
Warning :Graphic videos....
Iran -- at least 10 more killed in protests
Man shot by sniper in Hear
Not sure if these are from today or not.
551 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:12:48am |
re: #531 soxfan4life
I missed that particular show, but apparently he called illegal mexicans leeches and disease carriers during the swine flu scare. Totally inappropriate for radio.
Extremely.
552 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:12:53am |
re: #531 soxfan4life
Not being a fan of his show, I did not listen often. But when I did, I heard him make that kind of statement more than once. It was not a one time thing with the guy. He has toned it down but honestly, as far as I am concerned, he has clearly shown himself to be a lowlife.
553 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:13:16am |
re: #533 Pianobuff
Well, maybe it's a longshot but between that and network revenue loss maybe the coverage will change, even if slightly.
Or, maybe some will redouble their whoring for FCBBHO.
554 | Truck Monkey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:14:06am |
re: #544 realwest
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Morning reine - I have some friends in S.C. who think he checked into a medical facility for some sort of tests and can't keep his stories straight to cover up that fact.
I have it from pretty reliable sources that Gov. Sanford is actually not from this planet and he needed a few days to update his alien overlords.
//
555 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:14:21am |
re: #378 lawhawk
For those following the ongoing story about the DC Metro crash, one of the victims happened to be the general who gave the order to scramble aircraft over DC on 9/11.
And of course, Alex Jones (and his ilk) are probably already claiming that the Metro accident was in fact an assassination of Gen. Wherley, because he knew too much.
Wait for it. (If they haven't already done it.)
556 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:14:45am |
re: #544 realwest
That's why keeping a trip a secret is foolish. There will be no end of speculation, not just about his marital fidelity, but whether he has some disease he wants to keep hidden.
Look what happened to Steve Jobs. It was just yesterday the story was finally put out that he had a liver operation a couple of months ago, and that he went outside of California to shorten the waiting period. For a year there has been speculations about Job's health... that affected the Apple stock prices, etc.
557 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:14:53am |
re: #534 Kenneth
It's Chicago, baby and the tap dancin', smooth talkin' lawyer in the Press Conference Rag
Any cameos for gerbils?
558 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:14:53am |
various tweets:
theeebatgirl: RT - URGENT - Where is the fricking U.N.? Come on guys, ppl are dying and you're dragging ass! RT RT RT #iranelection @whitehouse #cnn
GOODBYEDICTATOR: From Iran im now in one o the protests: i have see for shure 4 dead ppl URGENT FWD TO TELL THE FREE WORLD #IRANELECTION #tehran #nedal #qom
Most of what I'm seeing on "tweetgrid" is re-tweets of things posted by PersianKiwi and a couple of the other "regulars" I've been following.
559 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:14:57am |
re: #552 WinterCat
Not being a fan of his show, I did not listen often. But when I did, I heard him make that kind of statement more than once. It was not a one time thing with the guy. He has toned it down but honestly, as far as I am concerned, he has clearly shown himself to be a lowlife.
He used to be a political consultant which pretty much makes him scum.
I do like Micheal Graham though, and tend to listen more to Jays show when he fills in.
560 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:04am |
re: #544 realwest
Morning reine - I have some friends in S.C. who think he checked into a medical facility for some sort of tests and can't keep his stories straight to cover up that fact.
RW-- You know what, I've been hearing that rumour too, from one friend in SC.
Also, --take this for what it's worth-- he was spotted at Atlanta's airport, and someone altered his Wikipedia entry last night to say that he was on a flight to Minn/St. Paul.
The IP of the person who made that edit resolves to Atlanta.
Minn/St Paul makes me think he went to the Mayo Clinic.
(and it's wiki, so it may be a prank, and lots of IPs resolve to Atlanta because a few ISP route a lot of stuff through there....but still.)
561 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:27am |
re: #475 lawhawk
I'll take the Chagalls and Picassos.
If only we could be so lucky
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
562 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:33am |
re: #535 iceweasel
I wanted to do something exotic, but had to settle for handing out updings.
563 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:40am |
564 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:44am |
re: #555 Occasional Reader
I was thinking the same thing. Certainly Jones will be able to come up with a good story.
565 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:54am |
re: #464 Kenneth
Fox News refuses to worship Him as thoroughly as the other networks. That is an insult to The One. (see Narcissistic supply)
Ya gotta just love it when he smirks and stutters while speaking without a teleprompter about life and death issues.
What a treat to watch.
566 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:15:58am |
567 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:16:06am |
re: #555 Occasional Reader
I'll let you know when I visit stormfront and the Paulians in a little while.
568 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:16:08am |
re: #544 realwest
Morning reine - I have some friends in S.C. who think he checked into a medical facility for some sort of tests and can't keep his stories straight to cover up that fact.
I would not be surprised at this.
569 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:16:19am |
Damn, I hate it when this happens.
Water seeping through Howard Hanson Dam is picking up speedThe speed at which water is seeping through a flank of the Howard Hanson Dam has, by one key measure, increased since January, and the people who operate the dam don't know why.
Officials with the Army Corps of Engineers said in a news release Tuesday that water is flowing through the 48-year-old dam's right abutment "very fast" and may mean the earth-and-rock structure could erode if too much water is stored behind the dam 32 miles upstream from Auburn.
570 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:16:22am |
re: #555 Occasional Reader
And of course, Alex Jones (and his ilk) are probably already claiming that the Metro accident was in fact an assassination of Gen. Wherley, because he knew too much.
Well if Gen Wherley was killed because he "knew too much" was hasn't Alex Jones been assassinated yet? ...cuz clearly he knows way to much!
572 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:17:32am |
re: #562 Sharmuta
I wanted to do something exotic, but had to settle for handing out updings.
Hush! Dammit, now "upding" is going to wind up in the urban dictionary with some salacious connotation!
573 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:17:52am |
re: #559 soxfan4life
I agree. Graham is funny and poignant. I catch him when I can. Severin, no.
574 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:18:20am |
re: #572 iceweasel
I don't even think "ding" is in the LGF Dictionary yet.
575 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:19:29am |
577 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:19:35am |
re: #560 iceweasel
RW-- You know what, I've been hearing that rumour too, from one friend in SC.
Also, --take this for what it's worth-- he was spotted at Atlanta's airport, and someone altered his Wikipedia entry last night to say that he was on a flight to Minn/St. Paul.
The IP of the person who made that edit resolves to Atlanta.Minn/St Paul makes me think he went to the Mayo Clinic.
(and it's wiki, so it may be a prank, and lots of IPs resolve to Atlanta because a few ISP route a lot of stuff through there....but still.)
Pretty wide gap there- Mayo Clinic vs Argentina. Weird.
578 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:19:58am |
re: #535 iceweasel
Sanford lied or misled about his vacation plans. Pelosi lies about whether the CIA informed her about waterboarding.
May I suggest that there's a significant difference in kind and degree here? Sanford's deception seems to be an attempt to get some privacy. Pelosi-- not so much. Sanford simply should have told the press to back off rather than deceiving anyone, however. And maybe he should get some therapy.
579 | legalpad Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:20:11am |
re: #498 MandyManners
Isn't a kiss on the lips the Mafia way of telling someone he's gonna' be killed?
If it's a guy, yeah.
580 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:20:27am |
re: #539 Walter L. Newton
I did something exotic yesterday. I pushed my cart at Goodwill down the isles ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ISLES.
What a thrill.
Funny Goodwill story. I needed some work shoes and headed to the local Goodwill store dressed in my typical working on Studebaker cloths, holey shirt, dirty pants and probably grease in my hair. I found a pair of $6.00 work shoes, and a brand new pair of high end dress shoes for $70.00. When I went to check out, the gal gave me a quick once over and held up the new pair saying "You know these are $70.00 ?" I guess I did not meet the Goodwill dress code for nice shoes.
581 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:20:44am |
582 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:20:51am |
re: #574 Sharmuta
I don't even think "ding" is in the LGF Dictionary yet.
It's a well used word. It's very commonly used in MMORPGs when a character in game reaches the next level... and, what some jerk did to my car in the parking lot a few weeks ago (without leaving a note, no less).
Power to the English language!
584 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:21:59am |
re: #575 realwest
A few years ago the mullah's secret police murdered a Iranian-Canadian photographer. These people are being tortured right now. It's what they do.
585 | sagehen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:22:20am |
re: #497 avanti
Obama plays the press like a violin. Fox wants some time with the rock star too, and I predict will soon get it. Maybe another Bill O'reilly set down, better yet Glenn Beck. :)
Just nobody who ever called Michelle "baby mama". Or wondered aloud about a "terrorist fist jab."
He entire organization doesn't have to pay forever, but the specific individuals who said these things need to be frozen out for a good long while.
586 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:22:21am |
As the Iranian government’s murderous repression of the Iranian people continues, critics right and left agitate over the deafening silence of an American president who, as a candidate, derided the Bush administration’s ambitious democracy promotion as too timid. They speculate as to why Barack Obama won’t speak out: Why won’t he condemn the mullahs? Is he daft enough to believe he can charm the regime into abandoning its nuclear ambitions? Does the self-described realist so prize stability that he thinks it’s worth abandoning the cause of freedom — and the best chance in 30 years of dislodging an implacable American enemy?In truth, it’s worse than that. Even as the mullahs are terrorizing the Iranian people, the Obama administration is negotiating with an Iranian-backed terrorist organization and abandoning the American proscription against exchanging terrorist prisoners for hostages kidnapped by terrorists. Worse still, Obama has already released a terrorist responsible for the brutal murders of five American soldiers in exchange for the remains of two deceased British hostages.
Prepare to be infuriated.
Vundarbar.
Mornin folks...we're just about there.
587 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:22:53am |
re: #489 Sharmuta
Still sounds like he's not being honest.
So I'm sitting here staring into the screen, thinking about what explanations there could be for the strange actions, and even more strange stories, surrounding this Governor Sanford. Gradually, I lose focus on the screen as I read less and think harder. Then somewhere between my face and the screen, a matchbox-sized object materializes, and as I recognize it for what it is, tiny double doors bang open, propelled by a tiny blue bird no larger than my thumb, screeching CUCKOO! like a nearby thunderclap on a clear day.
The bird is gone, the echo fades, the explanation is here to stay.
588 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:03am |
re: #581 Kenneth
Well, this explains why Obama isn't supporting the Fairness Doctrine.
589 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:05am |
re: #578 quickjustice
Sanford lied or misled about his vacation plans. Pelosi lies about whether the CIA informed her about waterboarding.
May I suggest that there's a significant difference in kind and degree here? Sanford's deception seems to be an attempt to get some privacy. Pelosi-- not so much. Sanford simply should have told the press to back off rather than deceiving anyone, however. And maybe he should get some therapy.
Hey, you drag Pelosi in here if you must. I have a lot of issues with Pelosi.
Sanford might have some serious personal problems. Health, physical or mental. I hope he gets help. i feel bad for the kids, because one thing we DO know from his wife is that he was out of touch on Father's Day and neither she nor the kids knew where he was. That sucks.
590 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:20am |
591 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:23am |
re: #570 Kenneth
Well if Gen Wherley was killed because he "knew too much" was hasn't Alex Jones been assassinated yet? ...cuz clearly he knows way to much!
THEY are using him to create plausible deniability! Doesn't Jones realize that?! Or is he in on it?!
/
592 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:34am |
re: #583 laZardo
I'm an atheistic communist who probably reviles everything your life stands for.
I hate fuckin' commies..........
How's that for a seethe?
593 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:48am |
re: #481 realwest
Good morning real! I hope you are feeling well today. No commercials because it's OBAMA ALL THE TIME. I read those senators are buying advertising to complain but I didn't bother to go check it out. Hey, above all people you should have a strong opinion on this health care debate. The shared risk aspect makes sense in some respects but I don't like the idea of my perfectly healthy boys getting burdened with picking up the slack. Plus the government will f$%^ this up just like social security. Tell me what you think real, well you can email me sometime because I want to know how we can deal with this. btw, my deductible for BC/BS doubled this year.
594 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:23:53am |
re: #483 iceweasel
Finally someone gets my sense of humor.
I don't need to belabor the obvious - but - With GWB, the press was openly hostile. w/Obama-- the press is openly fawning. I think most casual observes can see the difference. How much is staged? It would seem to me the openly fawning is a more staged event.
I am happy to see a few tough questions seep through. Surprised in fact.
595 | JarHeadLifer Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:24:07am |
re: #535 iceweasel
It's always the coverup that kills, more than the initial transgression.
That's the truth. I didn't really pay too much attention to this story, but when it was reported that this guy "took a last minute trip to Argentina", that got my attention.
Who does that? No one I know. People take last minute trips to the Walmart, not to South American cities. He just "happened" to have his passport with him? When did he buy his ticket? A walk-up, full-fare ticket to Argentina from SC must have cost thousands. I have a feeling that as this story unwinds, it's only going to get stranger and stranger.
596 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:25:01am |
" ‘Inside the Obama White House' is my favorite new show," Obama joked at the television correspondents' dinner. "There's just something really compelling about the main character. It's wonderful narrative. In fact, the show has been such a hit that all of you guys now want to come and tape one in my house." - BHO
It's the narcissism, stupid.
597 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:25:10am |
re: #590 Nevergiveup
Sorry I'll be watching a ballgame
I watched the Sox-Nationals game last night and Biden was there. Good thing the Sox beat them down.
598 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:25:47am |
re: #569 jcm
bad news...I'd be nervous...I remember the Big Thompson flood in CO...not a dam failure but a wall of water that scoured the canyon...killed alot of people too
599 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:25:55am |
600 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:25:58am |
The seafloor sediments in the middle of the South Pacific have fewer living cells than anywhere else measured, a new study found.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I would have guessed Washington DC or Albany NY. At least for living brain cells?
601 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:26:15am |
re: #595 JarHeadLifer
That's the truth. I didn't really pay too much attention to this story, but when it was reported that this guy "took a last minute trip to Argentina", that got my attention.
Who does that? No one I know. People take last minute trips to the Walmart, not to South American cities. He just "happened" to have his passport with him? When did he buy his ticket? A walk-up, full-fare ticket to Argentina from SC must have cost thousands. I have a feeling that as this story unwinds, it's only going to get stranger and stranger.
Let bare the truth shall we....
602 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:26:21am |
On Sanford's Argentina trip, from Sharm's link:
Sanford told The State he was alone on the trip to Argentina. He declined to give any additional details about what he did other than to say he drove along the coastline.
Trying to make such a drive could frustrate a weekend visitor to Argentina. In Buenos Aires, the Avenida Costanera is the only coastal road, and it's less than two miles long. Reaching coastal resorts to the south requires a drive of nearly four hours on an inland highway with views of endless cattle ranches. To the north is a river delta of islands reached only by boat.
Busted. You don't fly to Buenos Aires to "drive along the coastline".
And I'm more than a little surprised to see this, for a Republican:
Sanford has been a fan of Argentina for years. While in Congress and since he's said that nation's Social Security system has a model the U.S. should follow.
Um... that would be the inefficient, corrupt model, for which the government recently had to essentially nationalize everyone's 401(k) (equivalent) in order to keep funding?!
603 | legalpad Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:26:45am |
re: #583 laZardo
There are so many things wrong with this guys facts and reasoning he must work for Disney.
604 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:26:49am |
re: #597 soxfan4life
I watched the Sox-Nationals game last night and Biden was there. Good thing the Sox beat them down.
The Yankees are replaying the Early days of the Civil War and getting spanked by the South.
605 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:26:59am |
Mornin' all. I take from some of the comments the gov of SC didn't go hiking like was first reported?
And, the msm actually asked some 'hard' questions during the infomercial?
606 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:27:02am |
re: #486 albusteve
Yes, and I filled it up. I did take advantage and did a lot of tree pruning before I rented it, that stuff is pretty bulky. Borrowed my neighbors powered pole saw, that thing is NICE. None the less I can get into the garage now, ha!
607 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:27:44am |
re: #602 Occasional Reader
I get so tired of these politicians. What new scandal awaits us?
608 | Pianobuff Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:27:47am |
Bill vs. Barney tonight on FNC.
Any predictions on how that will go?
609 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:27:51am |
re: #560 iceweasel
Yep, but either way or whatever the story, the Govenor - unless he names the Lt.Govenor to "fill in" is repsonsible for the mobiliaztion of S.C. National Guard, certain Emergency Response teams and the like.
So while I hope he ISN'T really sick and was just screwing off (or around) he can't be said to have discharged his duties as Govenor with any sense of responsibility.
610 | haakondahl Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:27:56am |
The governor says he had considered hiking on the Appalachian Trail but wanted to do something "exotic."
Well, she lives in Brazil. Good call.
611 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:27:57am |
re: #558 reine.de.tout
It's an ongoing Tiananmen Massacre, Iranian style. I'm saying prayers for those poor bastards, because there will be no help from the international community for them, and certainly none from our President or Secretary of State.
On the 4th of July, U.S. diplomats will be serving hot dogs to their murderers, yukking it up, and shaking those bloodstained hands. I hope those bastards choke.
Lady Liberty will weep over the dead and wounded children of Iran if no one else does.
612 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:28:22am |
re: #604 Nevergiveup
The Yankees are replaying the Early days of the Civil War and getting spanked by the South.
You guys need a new manager. Hope Hank and Hal are happy they lowballed Torre and ran him out of town.
613 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:28:39am |
re: #584 Kenneth
A few years ago the mullah's secret police murdered a Iranian-Canadian photographer.
A woman, right? And if I recall, the response of the Canadian government was a strongly-worded letter, or something of the like. (Not that I think Obama would do more if the Iranians did the same to an American journalist, mind you.)
614 | FrogMarch Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:28:46am |
re: #483 iceweasel
I updinged you because that was funny-- but it is weird that Gannon had a pass. For one thing, Jeff Gannon isn't his name. For another, he didn't have much of a journalistic background when he got one. The whole story about Gannon is pretty damn weird, even if you accept (as I do) that all press conferences are stage managed to some extent.
[Link: dir.salon.com...]
No to worry. Someone dug through "Jeff Gannon's" trash and made sure that he lost all credibility and was never seen or heard from again.
617 | whiterasta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29:25am |
Question for any HVAC folks/engineers out there:
Am I better off leaving my AC, on or better off letting the house warm up and then cooling it later?
618 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29:28am |
re: #587 haakondahl
So I'm sitting here staring into the screen, thinking about what explanations there could be for the strange actions, and even more strange stories, surrounding this Governor Sanford. Gradually, I lose focus on the screen as I read less and think harder. Then somewhere between my face and the screen, a matchbox-sized object materializes, and as I recognize it for what it is, tiny double doors bang open, propelled by a tiny blue bird no larger than my thumb, screeching CUCKOO! like a nearby thunderclap on a clear day.
The bird is gone, the echo fades, the explanation is here to stay.
Wow, the poppy harvest is in full bloom?
/////////////
619 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29:37am |
re: #591 Occasional Reader
THEY are using him to create plausible deniability! Doesn't Jones realize that?! Or is he in on it?!
/
Of course, it's so obvious... by allowing a raving lunatic like Alex Jones to speak the Real Truth, the Illuminati-Bilderburger-Zionist-Halliburton-CIA-Mossad is intentionally making the only people who know the Real Truth look like drooling idiots, thereby perfecting the perfect cover-up. It's genius, when you think about it, and only goes to prove how right Alex Jones is!
620 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29:49am |
re: #611 quickjustice
It's a shame that the situation is damned-either-way for the United States. Don't help and the Iranian people will be subjugated and abandoned. Try to help, and you stoke memories of Mossadeq, the Shah, etc.
621 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29:55am |
622 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:30:12am |
re: #612 soxfan4life
You guys need a new manager. Hope Hank and Hal are happy they lowballed Torre and ran him out of town.
I'll trade ya one A-rod for a bowl of new england clam chowder?
623 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:30:13am |
re: #497 avanti
That Beck guy must be nuts. I had the patio TV on mute chatting with the neighbors last night. The guy had frickin Barby and Ken dolls on the O'Reilly show for some unknown reason. What a kook.
624 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:30:30am |
re: #569 jcm
Hey jcm - didja see the bad news from pingjockey yesterday?
625 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:30:34am |
What the hell is going on with high profile Republicans? Mark Sanford takes off for Argentina for 5 days? Have all of these people gone nuts? If he ever had potential as a national candidate, he can kiss it goodbye ...
Calling Mitt Romney .... SAVE US PLEASE!
626 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:31:26am |
re: #598 albusteve
bad news...I'd be nervous...I remember the Big Thompson flood in CO...not a dam failure but a wall of water that scoured the canyon...killed alot of people too
My Uncle was Bill Bright's, head of Campus Crusade, Executive Assistant at the time, 7 of the 150 were with Campus Crusade he knew them and had to take care of the family assistance. We visited the memorial in the Canyon a couple of years ago.
627 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:31:50am |
re: #625 _RememberTonyC
FNC just said the Huckster is already visiting Iowa! Not to buy corn either, would be my guess.
628 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:31:57am |
re: #577 Sharmuta
Pretty wide gap there- Mayo Clinic vs Argentina. Weird.
And how weird is it that his own staff was claiming Appalachian Trail?
I still think the "AT" story was hastily cooked up by an aide to cover the fact that absolutely no one knew where he was or could reach him.
It's an explanation that makes some sense, because the AT is one of the only places in the US he could reasonably be claimed to be, and be out of touch.
(Short of "he's in vegas on a bender doing meth with a hooker and his cell phone is in the Jacuzzi')
But it was a weekend, in summer, on some fairly popular parts of the AT-- he'd have been seen. So they couldn't keep insisting that's where he was.
I bet he probably was is Brazil, but god knows why.
629 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:32:03am |
re: #589 iceweasel
Hmmm. I suggest that Sanford might need some therapy because he's cracking under pressure, and you're at his throat for his not being a model father? Isn't that really his wife's business? And aren't you out of line?
630 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:32:12am |
re: #617 whiterasta
Question for any HVAC folks/engineers out there:
Am I better off leaving my AC, on or better off letting the house warm up and then cooling it later?
Are you leaving the house unattended? If so use a programmable Thermostat that will allow you to program the unit to start 1/2 hour before you get home but doesn't have it run all day. Very inefficient and expensive if you are not in the house to leave the unit running.
631 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:32:24am |
re: #623 turn
That Beck guy must be nuts. I had the patio TV on mute chatting with the neighbors last night. The guy had frickin Barby and Ken dolls on the O'Reilly show for some unknown reason. What a kook.
I'd watch a interview by him of the POTUS, it would not be boring.
633 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:32:56am |
re: #609 realwest
Yep, but either way or whatever the story, the Govenor - unless he names the Lt.Govenor to "fill in" is repsonsible for the mobiliaztion of S.C. National Guard, certain Emergency Response teams and the like.
So while I hope he ISN'T really sick and was just screwing off (or around) he can't be said to have discharged his duties as Govenor with any sense of responsibility.
That's the issue, he didn't notify staff and chain of command he was gonna' be out of the loop. He doesn't have to say where he is going, but he does have to tell folks he's going and transfer authority to the Lt. Gov.
634 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:33:11am |
re: #625 _RememberTonyC
What the hell is going on with high profile Republicans? Mark Sanford takes off for Argentina for 5 days?
In technical terms, this is referred to as a "booty run".
636 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:33:44am |
re: #627 pingjockey
FNC just said the Huckster is already visiting Iowa! Not to buy corn either, would be my guess.
no way i would ever vote for huckleberry ...
637 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:33:51am |
re: #622 Nevergiveup
I'll trade ya one A-rod for a bowl of new england clam chowder?
Would have to get more than A-Rod in return. Seems as though the Yankees jinxed themselves by getting A-Rod.
638 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:34:23am |
re: #634 Occasional Reader
In technical terms, this is referred to as a "booty run".
Are Adriana Lima's whereabouts during this time known?
639 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:34:27am |
re: #633 jcm
The whole thing is weird. As a gov or Prez or CEO or whatever, the head of the chain of command just doesn't take off without setting up things to run without their presence.
640 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:34:53am |
re: #636 _RememberTonyC
no way i would ever vote for huckleberry ...
A squirrel in every popcorn popper!
641 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:02am |
642 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:04am |
re: #617 whiterasta
Question for any HVAC folks/engineers out there:
Am I better off leaving my AC, on or better off letting the house warm up and then cooling it later?
I am not an HVAC anything, or an engineer anything, but to me it's blindingly obvious that you save energy and money by turning the A/C off (or at least "down", i.e. raise the thermostat temp setting) while you're not at home. I'm always surprised how many people believe otherwise.
643 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:04am |
re: #627 pingjockey
FNC just said the Huckster is already visiting Iowa! Not to buy corn either, would be my guess.
And it appears as if Sarah is off to the Middle-East for the some photo-ops with the military.
/Who said 2009 was too early to campaign for 2012?
645 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:35am |
re: #502 razorbacker
Wow, that's some serious stuff. You're right about not knowing what your spouse thinks is important. Ha, one of the conditions I put on throwing out my stuff was that the turnwife had to throw out this antique sofa she planned to reupholster FOR LIKE 25 FRICKIN YEARS. That thing did nothing but take up space. Fortunately when we moved into our current house it was only two blocks from the old one, which made it that much more easy to hold on to junk!
646 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:38am |
re: #628 iceweasel
There would be no reason to lie about medical testing, I would think, so the Mayo Clinic rumor isn't flying for me. He was in South America.
Hmm- and Charles noted he was a creationist. I wonder if he went to South America to hike the Darwin Trail, and he's not a closet homosexual, but rather a closet Darwinist. :p
647 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:40am |
re: #626 jcm
My Uncle was Bill Bright's, head of Campus Crusade, Executive Assistant at the time, 7 of the 150 were with Campus Crusade he knew them and had to take care of the family assistance. We visited the memorial in the Canyon a couple of years ago.
small world...bless their souls
648 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:42am |
re: #637 soxfan4life
Would have to get more than A-Rod in return. Seems as though the Yankees jinxed themselves by getting A-Rod.
That's what I have been saying all along
649 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:43am |
re: #636 _RememberTonyC
Me neither. I don't know who the repubs are gonna run, but Huckabee is not even in the ballpark to give the one a run for the Pres.
650 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:47am |
re: #630 soxfan4life
Are you leaving the house unattended? If so use a programmable Thermostat that will allow you to program the unit to start 1/2 hour before you get home but doesn't have it run all day. Very inefficient and expensive if you are not in the house to leave the unit running.
I have wondered about that.
Where I am, it gets so hot, that it seems it's better to leave the AC running at a higher temp rather than turning it off altogether.
When it's off altogether, it takes forever to cool down later. It isn't just the air in the house that warms up, it's every item in the house, and all of that has to cool off before the air starts feeling cooler. It seems the AC works very hard if its been off and has to come on and cool everything down.
651 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:35:50am |
re: #639 pingjockey
The whole thing is weird. As a gov or Prez or CEO or whatever, the head of the chain of command just doesn't take off without setting up things to run without their presence.
He'll I'm low on the totem pole, since so many projects require a tech, I can't go without delegating.
652 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:12am |
re: #613 Occasional Reader
Zahra "Ziba" Kazemi-Ahmadabadi (زهرا کاظمی احمدآبادی in Persian) (1949 – July 11, 2003) was an Iranian-Canadian freelance photographer, residing in Montreal, Canada, who died in the custody of Iranian officials following her arrest.
Although Iranian authorities insist that her death was accidental and that she died of a stroke while being interrogated, Shahram Azam, a former military staff physician who used his purported knowledge of Kazemi's case for seeking asylum in Canada in 2004, has stated that he examined Kazemi's body and observed that Kazemi showed obvious signs of torture, including a skull fracture, broken nose, crushed toe, missing fingernails, broken fingers, signs of brutal rape, marks from flogging, deep scratches on her neck, and severe abdominal bruising. Iranian officials claimed that Azam had been afflicted with mental health issues and that he had been discharged before Kazemi's death. The Canadian government, as well as Kazemi's family and supporters, consider her death to be state-sanctioned murder.[1]
One of the two Iranian intelligence agents charged with her death was acquitted in September, 2003. The other agent, Mohammed Reza Aghdam-Ahmadi (محمدرضا اقدم احمدی), was charged with "semi-intentional murder" and his trial opened in Tehran in October, 2003. In the same month, the Iranian parliament condemned Saeed Mortazavi, a Tehran prosecutor, for announcing that Kazemi had died of a stroke. On July 25, 2004, Aghdam-Ahmadi was acquitted.
On July 24, Judge Farahani issued his judgement, clearing Aghdam-Ahmadi of the charges. He also mentioned that since the murderer has not been found, according to the Islamic sources the blood money should be paid by the government to the family. The lawyers of Kazemi's family announced that they will definitely appeal the case, asking for a criminal court to be established to reconsider the whole case, or completing the numerous incompletenesses of the file. They also mentioned that if the family asks, they will bring the case to the international authorities, mentioning Iran's 1954 signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The end of July saw Iran's judiciary adding "accidental fall" and "hunger strike" to the list of alleged causes for Kazemi's death. They claimed that Kazemi had gone on a hunger strike voluntarily, developed low blood pressure that made her dizzy, fallen, and hit her head. Detractors point out that this story does not explain her broken bones, genital injuries or skin lacerations.
The Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister, Bill Graham, defined these events as "flagrant denial of due process".
That'll show'em.
654 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:14am |
re: #638 jcm
Are Adriana Lima's whereabouts during this time known?
Absolutely. I let her sleep in this morning.
655 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:19am |
re: #638 jcm
Are Adriana Lima's whereabouts during this time known?
heh
I've been lurking, wondering how to bring that subject up!
656 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:21am |
re: #586 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Vundarbar.Mornin folks...we're just about there.
About two weeks ago, the Obama administration released Laith Qazali after extensive negotiations with the Asaib al-Haq terror network.
AAAAIIIIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
657 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:25am |
re: #620 laZardo
Hey, pal, I'm on the side of "try to help the kids being shot and tortured by their own government thugs" every time.
658 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:31am |
re: #643 freetoken
This last election cycle pretty much showed us that the time to start campaigning for 2016 is today.
660 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:36:48am |
661 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:37:05am |
re: #645 turn
You are now 150 posts behind turn with only fifty two misspellings so far, ha
662 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:37:05am |
re: #625 _RememberTonyC
What the hell is going on with high profile Republicans? Mark Sanford takes off for Argentina for 5 days? Have all of these people gone nuts? If he ever had potential as a national candidate, he can kiss it goodbye ...
Calling Mitt Romney .... SAVE US PLEASE!
unelectable....right wing extremist
664 | whiterasta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:37:31am |
re: #642 Occasional Reader
I was wondering if you end up using more energy to cool the house down or just keep it cool.
I guess it is blindingly obvious if you think about it.
665 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:37:31am |
re: #652 Kenneth
That'll show'em.
Well, at least he didn't add "... but we are still eager to extend our hand in friendship to the Supreme Leader!".
666 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:37:43am |
re: #634 Occasional Reader
In technical terms, this is referred to as a "booty run".
Alternative treatment for ED?
667 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:38:09am |
re: #662 albusteve
Romney? Or am I missing your sarcasm? Not enough coffee yet!
668 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:38:11am |
669 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:38:13am |
re: #654 Occasional Reader
Absolutely. I let her sleep in this morning.
Why don’t you quit crLyin’ and get me some bourbon?
671 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:38:43am |
re: #602 Occasional Reader
On Sanford's Argentina trip, from Sharm's link:
Um... that would be the inefficient, corrupt model, for which the government recently had to essentially nationalize everyone's 401(k) (equivalent) in order to keep funding?!
Cherchez la femme.
673 | soxfan4life Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:09am |
re: #650 reine.de.tout
At our house in Texas we would set the temp at about 85 during the day and bring it down to a more comfortable temp about 1/2 hour before we usually got home.Doesn't let the temp get unbearable but doesn't give you $300 lectric bills either.
674 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:17am |
re: #643 freetoken
And it appears as if Sarah is off to the Middle-East for the some photo-ops with the military.
Photo-ops my ass. They're deploying the last resort non-nuclear option to keep the country relatively quiet while the troops withdraw.
/ c:
676 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:26am |
re: #629 quickjustice
Hmmm. I suggest that Sanford might need some therapy because he's cracking under pressure, and you're at his throat for his not being a model father? Isn't that really his wife's business? And aren't you out of line?
I've no idea where you're getting that. I'm not at his throat. I'm not saying he's a bad father-- in fact, I'm giving him every benefit of the doubt by assuming the guy wants to be a good father, and that's why his wife's statements about his whereabouts have been....well, weird. Suggestive that, as you say, maybe he's got some other issue going on.
677 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:28am |
re: #642 Occasional Reader
I am not an HVAC anything, or an engineer anything, but to me it's blindingly obvious that you save energy and money by turning the A/C off (or at least "down", i.e. raise the thermostat temp setting) while you're not at home. I'm always surprised how many people believe otherwise.
Typically it is LESS efficient to allow the house to get REALLY hot. By the time summer is here, the AC is typically ON all the time. The trick is to control when it runs.
If we are all gone, I set the thermostats to 85-86F. During the day, we run fans and use 81F. Before bed, I turn them to 79F.
678 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:31am |
Gov. Sanford experiencing mental difficulties... breaking video:
679 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:40am |
re: #649 pingjockey
Me neither. I don't know who the repubs are gonna run, but Huckabee is not even in the ballpark to give the one a run for the Pres.
Mitt Romney is the last sane person who has a shot .... and I also like Paul Ryan as his VP.
680 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:39:57am |
re: #658 soxfan4life
Yes... which is why Newt has been all over the place flapping his gums on just about anything, and showing up with Huck at the religious rallies.
681 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:03am |
re: #664 whiterasta
I was wondering if you end up using more energy to cool the house down or just keep it cool.
I guess it is blindingly obvious if you think about it.
Think of it this way; if you leave it on, you'll be using energy all day, every day you're away, to maintain a temperature differential between the inside of your home, and the exterior, when it just doesn't matter to you to do so. (Unless, of course, there will be a pet at home during that time.)
682 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:19am |
re: #670 jcm
BOOOOM!
Yes, that was the sound of my head.
This moron released killers of American soldiers.
683 | JarHeadLifer Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:20am |
re: #627 pingjockey
FNC just said the Huckster is already visiting Iowa! Not to buy corn either, would be my guess.
There's only one word that terrifies more than "Huckster", and that's "Sarahcudda". When did the Republican party get taken over by people who believe the world is 10K years old?
The GOP has almost entirely alienated the educated suburbanite only to embrace two people that could completely alienate the educated suburbanite. It makes no logical sense, whatsoever.
684 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:28am |
re: #526 turn
There was some stuff of value, which is why I kept pack ratting it. Planned to have a huge garage sell but realized I would be packing most of it back up. Most of the stuff we collected at garage sells. At any rate garage sells are a waste of time, you end up working for a couple of days and end up with about enough money to go out to dinner. So I just decided to chuck everything and quit going to garage sells. How can you live in 500 sq ft and be looking for more stuff Walter?
OR must not be here yet turn, otherwise you would have been hammered
SALES, SALES, SALES TURN, ha
685 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:31am |
Recent "tweets" from various folks:
sjonnie1: RT @persiankiwi:I see many ppl with broken arms/legs/heads - blood everywhere - pepper gas like war - #Iranelection
eamni: RT Report from Iran? "So many dead, so many disabled. Tehran is bleeding...Smoke and fire everywhere" #Iran #IranElection #Tehran #neda
JoanneMichele: CNN rpts govt arresting foreign nationals in #Tehran #iranelection
DeniseCares: RT from Iran just in from Baharestan Sq - situation today is terrible - they beat ppl like animals - #Iranelection #gr88 #neda #world RT
686 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:34am |
re: #650 reine.de.tout
Plus, you are uncomfortable while this is going on. Defeats the purpose, IMO.
687 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:45am |
re: #646 Sharmuta
There would be no reason to lie about medical testing, I would think, so the Mayo Clinic rumor isn't flying for me. He was in South America.
Hmm- and Charles noted he was a creationist. I wonder if he went to South America to hike the Darwin Trail, and he's not a closet homosexual, but rather a closet Darwinist. :p
hee. Hot closeted monkey love? :P
688 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:40:59am |
re: #657 quickjustice
Hey, pal, I'm on the side of "try to help the kids being shot and tortured by their own government thugs" every time.
If there were a way to improve the situation they were in now, I'd support it. Unfortunately, trying to do so would give the mullahs the propaganda coup/so-called "justification" they were waiting for.
Right now, I'm on the side of the cynic as I've always been. Some things really never change.
689 | JarHeadLifer Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:41:48am |
re: #643 freetoken
And it appears as if Sarah is off to the Middle-East for the some photo-ops with the military.
/Who said 2009 was too early to campaign for 2012?
No, she's still in Alaska. The USS Stennis is there for maneuvers and Palin took the opportunity to make a photo-op out of it.
690 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:42:34am |
re: #679 _RememberTonyC
Mitt Romney is the last sane person who has a shot .... and I also like Paul Ryan as his VP.
don't dismiss a Ron Paul comeback...his star is rising, so I hear
691 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:42:43am |
re: #686 OldLineTexan
Plus, you are uncomfortable while this is going on. Defeats the purpose, IMO.
Yeah.
I do what you do - 82-85 during the day, keep it reasonable.
Lower it in late afternoon.
692 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:42:44am |
re: #683 JarHeadLifer
She did a bang up job energizing the base, me included. I must admit I didn't and haven't looked deep into her beliefs. I don't know if she is a YECer or not.
693 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:43:09am |
694 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:43:42am |
695 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:44:15am |
re: #677 OldLineTexan
Typically it is LESS efficient to allow the house to get REALLY hot.
I disagree. Certainly if you're away for an extended period (say, a week), how could it possiby be less energy-efficient to simply let the house reach ambient temperature and stay there, while you're away and don't care? Upon return, you can cool the house back down in an hour or two with the A/C on. I find it hard to believe that the A/C will burn more BTUs in that hour or two, than it would have done during an entire week of intermittent switching on and off.
(Of course, you may not want your house to heat up that much for other reasons, e.g. Fido who stayed home for this trip, etc.)
696 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:44:29am |
Obama sent the Iranian regime a letter offering better relationships before the elections in the expectation that President Ahmadinejad would win a landslide victory. The letter, cited by an Iranian official, contains an offer to settle the nuclear problem with Iran and sheds light on why President Obama was so loathe to offend Khamenei.
the letter was sent between May 4 and May 10 and laid out the prospect of “cooperation in regional and bilateral relations” and a resolution of the dispute over Iran’s nuclear program. The Iranian, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the topic, said the letter was given to the Iranian Foreign Ministry by a representative of the Swiss Embassy, which represents U.S. interests in Iran in the absence of U.S.-Iran diplomatic relations. The letter was then delivered to the office of Ayatollah Khamenei, he said.The letter was sent before the election, whose outcome - delivering a supposed landslide to incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - has touched off the biggest anti-government protests in Iran since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
697 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:44:43am |
re: #694 freetoken
LaWanda Page could make any man break down.
[Video]
I wonder if she's a nice person.
698 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:44:46am |
LUAP NOR! Didja see the vid with the Paulian screwing with TSA about the cash he was carrying? God help me, but what business is it of TSA if I'm carrying a wad of cash?
699 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:44:59am |
re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth
I dig where Sharmuta is coming from. Looks, wealth, fame, talent, and intellect are kind of meaningless if the person is rotten inside.
I have had a number of very attractive, intelligent, and talented girlfriends (none that were wealthy or famous, though) that turned out to be absolute... well, we're not allowed to use that word here.
One of my first serious girlfriends was a real airhead, but man was she sweet to me. I should have placed more value on her affections than her lack of intellect, but like a fool I let that one get away. I was young.
'Of course, some men prefer a stupid wife, as others have before them'
Mr Bennet
700 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:45:09am |
re: #692 pingjockey
She did a bang up job energizing the base, me included. I must admit I didn't and haven't looked deep into her beliefs. I don't know if she is a YECer or not.
701 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:45:10am |
re: #679 _RememberTonyC
Mitt Romney is the last sane person who has a shot .... and I also like Paul Ryan as his VP.
What about Newt?
702 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:45:19am |
re: #691 reine.de.tout
Yeah.
I do what you do - 82-85 during the day, keep it reasonable.
Lower it in late afternoon.
Shorts and t-shirts!
Sweaters in the winter.
/just like the WH
703 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:45:48am |
re: #678 Kenneth
Have you heard anything about al-Sistani's rep and the meetings in Qom?
704 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:46:02am |
re: #694 freetoken
LOL @ me. I didn't click the video before I posted 697. You got me.
705 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:46:18am |
re: #593 turn
Heck turn, don't have to e-mail you: Obamacare is arguably the most significant and expensive of Obama's domestic agenda. He is being, at the least, disingenuous about it all (yesterday he said "what do they mean, government healthcare will drive private insurance companies out of business? Government healthcare will have to compete with them!" - thus,of course, overlooking the fact that the US Treasury is in fact providing the capital for Obamacare, the US Govenerment it's employees, etc. etc.) and in reality, Medicare is SO FUCKED UP that it now cost both Mom and Me MORE THAN PRIVATE INSURANCE WOULD even if on COBRA!
Of all the important items on his domestic agenda, the one which most deserves a truly fair and complete debate is Healthcare.
And ABC has enabled Obama to avoid that in full.
706 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:46:29am |
re: #586 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Vundarbar.Mornin folks...we're just about there.
Unbelievable.
Charles, this one is threadworthy, IMO.
707 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:46:30am |
re: #676 iceweasel
Paraphrasing you: "He wasn't around for Father's Day, and that sucks" [implying he deliberately ran out on his family] isn't your judgment on his fitness as a father? Based upon what we know, are you really in a position to make that judgment?
708 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:46:54am |
re: #689 JarHeadLifer
No, she's still in Alaska. The USS Stennis is there for maneuvers and Palin took the opportunity to make a photo-op out of it.
* * * *
Whether a photo-op or not,
There is NO QUESTION Governor Palin is pro-defense and pro-military.
Missile defense is critical to her state which is closest to Russia's land mass.
Gov. Palin's Alaska National Guardspeople are deployed abroad, and Gov. Palin has visited her troops stationed in the Middle East before.
For those of you who don't remember, the day Gov. Palin was announced as John McCain's veep candidate, one of the first pictures of her was Gov. Palin visiting her wounded troops either at Landstuhl or some medical facility in the Middle East.
709 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:47:18am |
710 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:47:32am |
re: #695 Occasional Reader
I disagree. Certainly if you're away for an extended period (say, a week), how could it possiby be less energy-efficient to simply let the house reach ambient temperature and stay there, while you're away and don't care? Upon return, you can cool the house back down in an hour or two with the A/C on. I find it hard to believe that the A/C will burn more BTUs in that hour or two, than it would have done during an entire week of intermittent switching on and off.
(Of course, you may not want your house to heat up that much for other reasons, e.g. Fido who stayed home for this trip, etc.)
Vacation is another matter. It depends on how hot it will be while I am gone, and whether the cat is home. Lately, we are closing in on 100F during the day ... my wife's cosmetics would melt, etc.
BTW, the AC is burning kW, not BTUs. ;)
711 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:47:33am |
re: #698 pingjockey
LUAP NOR! Didja see the vid with the Paulian screwing with TSA about the cash he was carrying? God help me, but what business is it of TSA if I'm carrying a wad of cash?
none at all...screw them....I don't likee seeing people bullied like that regardless of other circumstances...the TSA can be such a bunch of punks
713 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:47:38am |
re: #705 realwest
Also, if obambi has his way, union members will not have to help foot the bill for obamacare. Nice...
714 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:47:44am |
715 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:47:53am |
Heavy Military Presence June 24. 2009 Iran Protests Unconfirmed
You can hear a lot of shooting going on. Towards the end of the clip you can see some sort of open trucks with police/soldiers in back.
716 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:48:09am |
re: #677 OldLineTexan
If we are all gone, I set the thermostats to 85-86F. During the day, we run fans and use 81F. Before bed, I turn them to 79F.
You can't just set your thermostats to whatever you want, and expect the rest of the world to say, "okay".
/
717 | freetoken Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:48:42am |
re: #704 Sharmuta
It was one of the few stand-ups of hers I could link and not put a NSFW warning on it!
718 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:48:51am |
re: #656 MandyManners
AAAAIIIIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
boom...boom...KABOOM!
mui grande problemo's.
719 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:48:59am |
720 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:49:09am |
re: #688 laZardo
I'll take all the heat and the propaganda these Iranian thugs can throw at me if it means helping the kids with non-lethal stuff. But our President and Secretary of State will not. In this, you're on Obama's side. And I'm not.
721 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:49:18am |
re: #710 OldLineTexan
It depends on how hot it will be while I am gone, and whether the cat is home.
And if the cat learns how to use the thermostat?
WHAT THEN, OLDLINETEXAN?
722 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:49:27am |
re: #711 albusteve
They won't hire former/retired military. From what I've seen the folks TSA has hired couldn't get a job at Mickey Ds'!
723 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:49:37am |
re: #605 pingjockey
Hey ping - we don't know WTF Sanford was doing but I'll bet that the real reason he disappeared hasn't been even suggested yet (except perhaps out here today!).
How you doing today my friend?
724 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:49:45am |
re: #707 quickjustice
I think many fathers would enjoy taking the day off from the family and spending the time any way they choose.
725 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:50:13am |
726 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:50:19am |
re: #716 Occasional Reader
You can't just set your thermostats to whatever you want, and expect the rest of the world to say, "okay".
/
You're right. I will have my press secretary on that right away.
/
727 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:50:55am |
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
728 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:00am |
re: #679 _RememberTonyC
Mitt Romney is the last sane person who has a shot .... and I also like Paul Ryan as his VP.
Good morning. IMO Romney would have been the strongest candidate against BHO last time. maybe with the bad economic news coming out when it did, nobody would have beaten Obama, so maybe it worked out.
Romney in 2012!
729 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:04am |
re: #721 Occasional Reader
And if the cat learns how to use the thermostat?
WHAT THEN, OLDLINETEXAN?
He's gonna have to get a job and chip in on the bill.
I need a press secretary ... hmmmm ...
731 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:14am |
re: #724 WinterCat
I think many fathers would enjoy taking the day off from the family and spending the time any way they choose.
We are allowed to?
732 | Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:20am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
I got enough air miles
733 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:31am |
re: #712 Spockista
FYI- Links to that blog are not welcome here.
734 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:39am |
re: #720 quickjustice
I'll take all the heat and the propaganda these Iranian thugs can throw at me if it means helping the kids with non-lethal stuff. But our President and Secretary of State will not. In this, you're on Obama's side. And I'm not.
I guess that's true about sides. Unfortunately, the Ayatollahs and their cronies collectively wield most of the power there, and all politics really turns out local.
735 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:49am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
Dangit, my passport hasn't come yet! Can we make it Hawaii instead?
736 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:51:58am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
Are you trying to be Pampas?
737 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:52:02am |
re: #731 Creeping Eruption
I did for mother's day. I said thanks for the cards, kissed them all and went off for the day. Loved it!
738 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:52:03am |
Weird, I'm having some serious accessibility issues. Had to log on from the bottom of the page (after changing my password thinking that might have something to do with it). Actually, I thought Charles had dumped my account after getting some of the ladies here all hot-and-bothered by gothic and period clothing.
739 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:52:23am |
re: #735 MrSilverDragon
Dangit, my passport hasn't come yet! Can we make it Hawaii instead?
Nah. Too many missiles.
/
740 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:52:30am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
Damn, I would, but I've been saving up my carbon credits for my eventual flight back to the United States.
741 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:52:34am |
re: #696 Kenneth
Obama is exposed by this. Indecently exposed.
744 | Spockista Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:52:55am |
re: #733 Sharmuta
FYI- Links to that blog are not welcome here.
I know, she is a nasty $#@% BUT it's a funny story bout one of her fascist buddies getting his site attacked, and a well deserved attack
745 | whiterasta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:08am |
re: #716 Occasional Reader
I received a letter from my State electricity provider, asking me to "voluntarily" give them control of my thermostat.
That will be a cold day in hell before the State gets control of my thermostat.
I'll set my thermostat to whatever temperature pleases me. It is not Greepeace's business.
746 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:23am |
re: #701 turn
What about Newt?
Newt? Blew his wad as an opportunist/oooh-look-at-me-I'm-cool years ago. I used to like him but he's yesterday's candidate. Smart, but so self-centered.
747 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:29am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
damn...I'll be in Manila all day recruiting laundry girls
748 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:32am |
re: #732 Nevergiveup
I got enough air miles
IT! IS! ON!
Dinner at the Italian restaurant in the Park Hyatt (Av. Alvear), 9 pm sharp.
749 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:36am |
re: #743 WinterCat
Are you into steam punk? Love that look.
We have our punk boiled then roasted, just to make sure any parasites are good and dead.
/
750 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:40am |
752 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:53:56am |
re: #723 realwest
I am doing okay. Have an appt. tomorrow for the plan of attack. What pisses me off, is the high tech stuff, I couldn't see the MRI pics! They don't have print outs like x-rays! So I'll get to see them tomorrow. Folks at work have been great. Took today off just to kick back. They gave me Percocet for the pain, which to me wasn't that bad. However, between my better half, and 3(!) nurses, I will take my meds! Heh.
As far as the guv, there's something fishy going on fer sure!
753 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:54:13am |
re: #716 Occasional Reader
You can't just set your thermostats to whatever you want, and expect the rest of the world to say, "okay".
/
With the smart girds, we won't have to worry about the thermostat settings anymore.
They tedious chore of making a decision like this will be done for you.
The brave new world will be so wonderful, so free of worry and decision.
755 | badger1970 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:54:50am |
re: #710 OldLineTexan
It's bad when sleep v. a higher electric bill becomes an issue.
756 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:54:50am |
re: #734 laZardo
I'm not a cynic about the universal desire of human beings for freedom. And neither were our Founders.
757 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:14am |
re: #662 albusteve
"unelectable....right wing extremist Mormon." There, FTFY!
758 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:15am |
re: #717 freetoken
It was one of the few stand-ups of hers I could link and not put a NSFW warning on it!
I was trying to carry on with our personality joke, but I failed. You taught me a valuable lesson.
760 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:37am |
re: #728 opnion
Good morning. IMO Romney would have been the strongest candidate against BHO last time. maybe with the bad economic news coming out when it did, nobody would have beaten Obama, so maybe it worked out.
Romney in 2012!
He's a Republican, right? 'nuff said.
761 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:37am |
re: #713 pingjockey
Also, if obambi has his way, union members will not have to help foot the bill for obamacare. Nice...
* * *
Payoff to Obama's hard core beneficiaries of our taxpayer dollars, bailout, and set-asides.
How about those 700 union teachers paid to do nothing for YEARS in New York alone?
762 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:40am |
re: #599 Mad Al-Jaffee
He was assassinated by Boosh and Cheney!
[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]
Seriously frakked up.
763 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:49am |
re: #749 OldLineTexan
I am from the N'East. What is punk to you down there in Texas?
764 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:55:49am |
re: #739 OldLineTexan
Nah. Too many missiles.
/
But we could look for the nirth certifikat!
To the Mystery Machine, gang!
765 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:56:20am |
re: #745 whiterasta
I received a letter from my State electricity provider, asking me to "voluntarily" give them control of my thermostat.
That will be a cold day in hell before the State gets control of my thermostat.
I'll set my thermostat to whatever temperature pleases me. It is not Greepeace's business.
The local utility company has control of mine, but it was voluntary and saves me quite a bit of money. It cycles off now and then, but I never really notice it.
766 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:56:21am |
re: #705 realwest
Thanks real, my only hope is he can't get the 60 votes he needs.
767 | whiterasta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:56:29am |
re: #753 jcm
Even if it becomes mandatory, I'll disconnect the device. See you in jail.
770 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:56:57am |
771 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:57:17am |
re: #650 reine.de.tout
I have wondered about that.
Where I am, it gets so hot, that it seems it's better to leave the AC running at a higher temp rather than turning it off altogether.When it's off altogether, it takes forever to cool down later. It isn't just the air in the house that warms up, it's every item in the house, and all of that has to cool off before the air starts feeling cooler. It seems the AC works very hard if its been off and has to come on and cool everything down.
Have you considered getting thermal curtains for the south facing windows? They aren't really pretty but you could put them up underneath your regular curtains/drapes and they reflect the sun. It may lower the temp by 10 degrees. I got mine at Kmart for 10.00 per pair of 63 inch ones.
Also, depending on the size of the house (if not an apartment) having the local insulation guys blow insulation into the attic is fairly inexpensive. I plan to have it done this fall and (small house) it probably wont cost more than $250.00. Depending on the temp at night, you can open up the windows and put in screens; close the windows in the morning before you leave.
772 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:57:27am |
I usually turn the heat on at night during the summer, otherwise it drops down to around 58-60 and that's just a tad too cold.
773 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:57:44am |
re: #761 alegrias
Yhings like that keep turning up in these donk controlled cities. LA just did an audit and found over 3000 phone lines the city was paying for, but were no longer in use. To the tune of 2.5 million a year. Progressive!
774 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:57:50am |
re: #769 taxfreekiller
So, how many posting here today are here due to failed reasonable precautions when their parents went to Key West for recreational sex some weekend in late June 1982?
Was that you. Daddy!
775 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:58:03am |
re: #755 badger1970
It's bad when sleep v. a higher electric bill becomes an issue.
That's been my entire adult life! The endless struggle to conserve energy my bank balance. Thankfully, under President Obama, my electricity bills will necessarily skyrocket. This is part of his three-step plan to save the economy and the world:
1) Do as I wish; here's some new laws.
3) Everybody's happy! All is better!
776 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:58:08am |
re: #765 avanti
Wow. I'd actually be warmer if the utility company controlled my heat. We freeze trying to keep the heating costs down in the winter.
778 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:58:54am |
re: #763 WinterCat
I am from the N'East. What is punk to you down there in Texas?
see sarc tag
"/"
;)
779 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:03am |
re: #769 taxfreekiller
Hmmmm...I might be responsible for one or none!
780 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:21am |
re: #760 SFGoth
He's a Republican, right? 'nuff said.
* * * *
Both McCain and Romney had too many homes they or their wives purchased fair & square, to be elected this past year.
See, if you bought your McMansion through shady financial credit swap deals from Syrian guys in Chicago, that was A-OK with voters.
781 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:26am |
re: #777 taxfreekiller
obama has control of your mind, the Utility Company is just Incing in your hair
HA! No hair to speak of here! YAY!
/
782 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:32am |
re: #744 Spockista
Just know that when you do that, it will get deleted. Folks will point out stuff she has at her site, but we dont link. Folks can look it up the hard way if they're that curious.
Other than that- yeah. I'd play the world's smallest violin for robert, but it's in the shop.
783 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:34am |
re: #769 taxfreekiller
So, how many posting here today are here due to failed reasonable precautions when their parents went to Key West for recreational sex some weekend in late June 1982?
Subtract 12 years and head a lot further north, and I can add my affirmative.
784 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:35am |
re: #480 turn
Hey LH, watched MsNBC briefly this AM getting dressed for work. The news ticker had a blurp about Mousavi withdrawing his candidacy for the sake of the country. Is that true? I didn't see anything at myway or Drudge.
Mousavi's still in it, but another of the four candidates on the ballot is stepping back, rather than be seen as standing with the opposition.
Mohsen Rezaei, a former Revolutionary Guards commander, officially captured less than 2 percent of the vote in the disputed election in which President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the landslide winner over his nearest challenger, moderate Mir Hossein Mousavi. Mousavi, Rezaei and reformist cleric Mehdi Karroubi alleged widespread vote-rigging immediately after the election, sparking large-scale protests.In withdrawing his complaint to the Guardian Council, which oversees Iran's elections, Rezaei reportedly cited national security as his reason, The Wall Street Journal said.
He's as much a thug as Ahmadinejad, and it shows the extent to which the Guardian Council chooses people to run for President that hew closely to its own interests.
It's that Ahmadinejad threw the election that got people to realize just how the Guardian Council truly controls matters and how Ahmadinejad has ripped the veneer of legitimacy from what were really show elections.
785 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:36am |
re: #692 pingjockey
Hey ping - Palin said she believed in creationism, but didn't want it taught in the public schools. That "but" part never seems to get to the page with her critics.
786 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:59:59am |
Some random tweets coming through, not sure how "fresh" this news is.
voiceofthetruth: #iranelection REPORT: Protests under way near parliament, people being shot and women being beaten by Basij thugs.
chicagoitaliano: #Iranelection Reports coming in saying shots being fired on protesters in Tehran [Link: bit.ly...]
kerpathy: RT Iran: saw 7/8 militia beating one woman with baton on ground - she had no defense nothing - #Iranelection sure that she is dead
soraya27: It Would Seem That Basij Are Ordered To Make Tonight The Bloodiest Hell Yet. I'm Hearing of Public Executions #IranElection Tehran I..
omidhabibinia: Heavy Clashes at Homhori St, Many People Injured. #iranelection
rockyfort: RT Iran: they were waiting for us, they all have guns and riot uniforms, it was like a mouse trap, ppl being shot like animals #Iranelection
reb1507: #Iranelection rpt hezbollah being imported and paid $2m to beat freedom fighters till they cannot stand up-hezbollah stands to lose lots $$$
DaliaNickole: many ppl arrested in Baharestan SQ. Basijs are among ppl & they arrested them if they talk #iranelection less than 20 seconds ago from we..
Video, supposedly today.
788 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:03am |
re: #764 Occasional Reader
Better pack those Scooby snacks because it's gonna be a long trip.
789 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:05am |
re: #771 Eowyn2
Have you considered getting thermal curtains for the south facing windows? They aren't really pretty but you could put them up underneath your regular curtains/drapes and they reflect the sun. It may lower the temp by 10 degrees. I got mine at Kmart for 10.00 per pair of 63 inch ones.
Also, depending on the size of the house (if not an apartment) having the local insulation guys blow insulation into the attic is fairly inexpensive. I plan to have it done this fall and (small house) it probably wont cost more than $250.00. Depending on the temp at night, you can open up the windows and put in screens; close the windows in the morning before you leave.
She's in Louisiana. Alligator-proof screens are expensive!
/
790 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:16am |
re: #746 SFGoth
Newt? Blew his wad as an opportunist/oooh-look-at-me-I'm-cool years ago. I used to like him but he's yesterday's candidate. Smart, but so self-centered.
He impressed me as someone who would actually get something constructive done, don't share the self-centered view. You are right about the smart part, he knows quite a bit about high technology, including nanotechnology NBIC etc.
791 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:23am |
re: #775 OldLineTexan
That's been my entire adult life! The endless struggle to conserve
energymy bank balance. Thankfully, under President Obama, my electricity bills will necessarily skyrocket. This is part of his three-step plan to save the economy and the world:1) Do as I wish; here's some new laws.
3) Everybody's happy! All is better!
Once again, NPR surprised me this morning. They were interviewing some dude (er, I didn't catch his name, or qualifications) who was tearing apart the Obama plan to a) make energy costs soar, thereby b) making magic technology invent itself, and thus c) everyone is happy. Pull quote: The government did not cause the personal computer to be invented, by imposing punitive taxes on typewriters.
792 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:37am |
re: #785 realwest
Ah. I have no problem with a candidates personal beliefs as long as they don't want to make it the law of the land. There was so much noise about Palin, I didn't go really dig for true info.
793 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:49am |
re: #759 jcm
How's pBMb doing today?
Doin' good.
Got a very promising contact into a startup which is coming up on needing a skilled engrg tech.
794 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:01:51am |
re: #785 realwest
Hey ping - Palin said she believed in creationism, but didn't want it taught in the public schools. That "but" part never seems to get to the page with her critics.
Never use "but"; people throw away everything before "but".
Use "however".
796 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:02:48am |
re: #718 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
boom...boom...KABOOM!
mui grande problemo's.
I saw some really eerie footage on Fox this morning of one of our choppers tracking Talibanis and then blowing their shit all over the place.
798 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:03:03am |
re: #782 Sharmuta
Just know that when you do that, it will get deleted. Folks will point out stuff she has at her site, but we dont link. Folks can look it up the hard way if they're that curious.
Other than that- yeah. I'd play the world's smallest violin for robert, but it's in the shop.
KT has been taking forever with that damned thing.
/
799 | jcm Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:03:06am |
re: #793 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Doin' good.
Got a very promising contact into a startup which is coming up on needing a skilled engrg tech.
Good! I got in with where I'm at as a startup. Worked out pretty well.
800 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:03:15am |
re: #713 pingjockey
Hell, ping, he's just STILL repaying his campaign debt to the UAW!
801 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:03:18am |
re: #773 pingjockey
Yhings like that keep turning up in these donk controlled cities. LA just did an audit and found over 3000 phone lines the city was paying for, but were no longer in use. To the tune of 2.5 million a year. Progressive!
* * * *
Staff turnover and little oversight means never knowing (or caring) what things cost and where the free money's going.
Another reason bureaucracies suck.
NO ONE is minding the store.
Free money! Wheeeeee!
803 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:04am |
re: #745 whiterasta
I received a letter from my State electricity provider, asking me to "voluntarily" give them control of my thermostat.
That will be a cold day in hell before the State gets control of my thermostat.
I'll set my thermostat to whatever temperature pleases me. It is not Greepeace's business.
wow. the gall.
804 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:11am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
I better start driving.
805 | Spockista Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:20am |
re: #782 Sharmuta
Just know that when you do that, it will get deleted. Folks will point out stuff she has at her site, but we dont link. Folks can look it up the hard way if they're that curious.
Other than that- yeah. I'd play the world's smallest violin for robert, but it's in the shop.
oh okay, I'm sorry, I'm a noob.
I had the *cough* *cough* "pleasure" of witnessing ol Robert when he spoke at AMU for the Youth For Western Civilization white power youth group.
We actually have the whole thing on vid, esp the part where he claims he was sent there by "The Leadership Institute"
806 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:32am |
re: #722 pingjockey
They won't hire former/retired military. From what I've seen the folks TSA has hired couldn't get a job at Mickey Ds'!
I've met one who is intelligent and probably good; he goes (occasionally) to the same Chabad I go to, and his father is a regular there.
But in every barrel, there are bound to be a few apples that aren't rotten.
807 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:39am |
We should arrange to get lots of pictures of our diplomats munching hot dogs and yukking it up on the 4th of July with Iranian thugs. And shove them down Obama's throat from now until election day 2012.
808 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:43am |
re: #800 realwest
Yep. UAW gonna go on strike against itself when they don't get what they want? Heh.
809 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:54am |
re: #769 taxfreekiller
So, how many posting here today are here due to failed reasonable precautions when their parents went to Key West for recreational sex some weekend in late June 1982?
I'm here cause mommy is Catholic and daddy was, well, um, daddy.
810 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:56am |
re: #796 MandyManners
That's why they're fleeing to Somalia and Yemen. No fear of infidel American choppers blowing their shit all over the place.
811 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:04:59am |
re: #765 avanti
The local utility company has control of mine, but it was voluntary and saves me quite a bit of money. It cycles off now and then, but I never really notice it.
Fucking pathetic.
812 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:04am |
re: #703 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Something about it here:
Rafsanjani in Qom to outflank Khamenei
...A source familiar with the thinking of decision-makers in state agencies that have strong ties to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said there is a sense among hardliners that a shoe is about to drop...The widespread belief is that Rafsanjani has been in the holy city of Qom, working to assemble a religious and political coalition to topple the supreme leader and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad...
...Ayatollah Khamenei now has a very big image problem among influential Shi’a clergymen. Over the course of the political crisis, stretching back to the days leading up to the election, Rafsanjani has succeeded in knocking the supreme leader off his pedestal by revealing Ayatollah Khamenei to be a political partisan rather than an above-the-fray spiritual leader. In other words, the supreme leader has become a divider, not a uniter...
...Among those who are now believed to be arrayed against Ayatollah Khamenei is Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the top Shi’a cleric in neighboring Iraq. Rafsanjani is known to have met with Grand Ayatollah al-Sistani’s representative in Iran, Javad Shahrestani.
813 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:27am |
re: #805 Spockista
oh okay, I'm sorry, I'm a noob.
I had the *cough* *cough* "pleasure" of witnessing ol Robert when he spoke at AMU for the Youth For Western Civilization white power youth group.
We actually have the whole thing on vid, esp the part where he claims he was sent there by "The Leadership Institute"
Was that this year or last year?
814 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:28am |
re: #808 pingjockey
Yep. UAW gonna go on strike against itself when they don't get what they want? Heh.
POGIC LARADOX.
/ :x
815 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:36am |
re: #784 lawhawk
Thanks, I'm glad this is still brewing. The blurp might have read conservative candidate come to think about it, I misinterpreted it.
816 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:41am |
re: #790 turn
He impressed me as someone who would actually get something constructive done, don't share the self-centered view. You are right about the smart part, he knows quite a bit about high technology, including nanotechnology NBIC etc.
He jumped in a few years ago with Pelosi to "support" glowbull warming. He changes positions at a whim. He also has the rep. of shutting down the Guv (what's wrong with that?) while Speaker which will dog him, as well as his being a jackass of a husband.
817 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:48am |
re: #809 Eowyn2
I'm here cause mommy is Catholic and daddy was, well, um, daddy.
"Honey, the Pope says you have to."
818 | reine.de.tout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:48am |
re: #771 Eowyn2
Have you considered getting thermal curtains for the south facing windows? They aren't really pretty but you could put them up underneath your regular curtains/drapes and they reflect the sun. It may lower the temp by 10 degrees. I got mine at Kmart for 10.00 per pair of 63 inch ones.
Also, depending on the size of the house (if not an apartment) having the local insulation guys blow insulation into the attic is fairly inexpensive. I plan to have it done this fall and (small house) it probably wont cost more than $250.00. Depending on the temp at night, you can open up the windows and put in screens; close the windows in the morning before you leave.
eowyn - thanks.
But it was 103 at my house yesterday. Similar temps predicted for today; dropping to about 90 by 10 pm.
819 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:54am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
I know! Let's have an LGF meetup in Buenos Aires tomorrow!
Great, I'll bring the caipirinhas!
820 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:05:57am |
re: #805 Spockista
oh okay, I'm sorry, I'm a noob.
I had the *cough* *cough* "pleasure" of witnessing ol Robert when he spoke at AMU for the Youth For Western Civilization white power youth group.
We actually have the whole thing on vid, esp the part where he claims he was sent there by "The Leadership Institute"
Put it on youtube and send it to Charles.
821 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:07am |
re: #810 laZardo
That's why they're fleeing to Somalia and Yemen. No fear of infidel American choppers blowing their shit all over the place.
How do they get there?
822 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:20am |
re: #794 OldLineTexan
Never use "but"; people throw away everything before "but".
Use "however".
Hrmm, I never throw it away. I like big buts and I can not lie.
/i dunno where that came from.
823 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:30am |
re: #760 SFGoth
He's a Republican, right? 'nuff said.
I would exclude one or two like Ron Paul or Huckabee, other than that I would pr5obably vote for any Republican.
824 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:32am |
re: #806 Kosh's Shadow
I've met one who is intelligent and probably good; he goes (occasionally) to the same Chabad I go to, and his father is a regular there.
But in every barrel, there are bound to be a few apples that aren't rotten.
true...my brush is broad when it comes to the feds
825 | whiterasta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:35am |
re: #803 Eowyn2
Yea, I tell you. Us right Wing Neo-cons.....
826 | Spockista Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:46am |
re: #813 Killgore Trout
Was that this year or last year?
This year, only a few months back. YWC wasn't here last year. Their debute was in Jan and then they did CPAC
827 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:48am |
re: #786 reine.de.tout
Some random tweets coming through, not sure how "fresh" this news is.
Video, supposedly today.[Video]
If this is true, then the mullahs have dropped all restraint and are focusing on silencing the demonstrators throught sheer violence. That's a brutal tactic, but it'll work if the protesters don't get outside support. Again I Say: Bomb the Basiji, bomb them now!
828 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:52am |
re: #812 Kenneth
While I'd prefer that nobody sporting the title "Ayatollah" were involved in Iranian politics at all, al-Sistani seems to be more or less okay, as Ayatollahs go. Interesting.
829 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:06:58am |
re: #820 Sharmuta
If that was this year then I think it's a huge story. There were no accounts if the meeting even took place. Very seekrit.
830 | OldLineTexan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:07:09am |
831 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:07:27am |
re: #806 Kosh's Shadow
Last time I flew was in 2007. It lived up to all my nonexpectations. Crowded, rude and I mean RUDE TSA people in Wenatchee, Seattle, Denver. KC and Chicago. Was not impressed.
832 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:07:33am |
re: #826 Spockista
This year, only a few months back. YWC wasn't here last year. Their debute was in Jan and then they did CPAC
Upload this to youtube and send it to Charles!
833 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:07:47am |
re: #697 Sharmuta
I wonder if she's a nice person.
I'll bet she was a nice lady. Not long before she passed away, she did some commercials for Church's Chicken. They were hilarious, especially one where she's watching a soap opera, and, waving a drumstick at the TV, yells, "Girl, he ain't no good for you!"
834 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:07:57am |
re: #797 whiterasta
It's "voluntary" for now.....
It's been voluntary for about 10 years, but you might be correct. The box was upgraded with my new energy efficient heating/cooling unit since it's all electronic controls.
835 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:08:02am |
re: #826 Spockista
You should send that video to Charles, he might like to see it.
836 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:08:06am |
re: #745 whiterasta
Hey my friend. Down here in Charloot, the local water utility wants to increase our rates because we conserved TOO MUCH WATER during last year's drought and they didn't bring in enough revenue!
837 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:08:20am |
re: #821 MandyManners
That's a good question because the Gulf gets nice and narrow 'round Iran way, and then it's mostly wide open space in the desert afterwards.
Slip a few [insert respective currency here] to the border guards, look for gaps, nobody notices.
839 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:08:35am |
re: #722 pingjockey
They won't hire former/retired military. From what I've seen the folks TSA has hired couldn't get a job at Mickey Ds'!
One of my old softball buddies is tsa. Last time I flew it was winter and I was in a very bulky sweatshirt. She looked at me and smilled and sorry, we gotta do it. The other tsa agent just did a pat down while I laughed at my friend. Told her she was profiling me cause I wouldn't play ball anymore. Retired Catcherist!
840 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:08:53am |
re: #819 Kenneth
Great, I'll bring the caipirinhas!
Those would be Argentinian caipirinhas?
(I didn't realize Mercosur was working so well!)
841 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:08:54am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
You should send that video to Charles, he might like to see it.
Absolutely- quite a few of us would like to see it.
842 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:09:00am |
re: #832 Sharmuta
Upload this to youtube and send it to Charles!
Do I recall correctly that we never had confirmation that the event even took place. Is this the same group that was mentioned in the CAIR press release?
843 | Spockista Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:09:43am |
re: #830 OldLineTexan
And I'll send some capybaras!
We found it *wink* you can't hide from our motley crew I am meeting with our video guy now, and will talk to him what we can do with it.
I am sure we can get it to Charles if he wants it.
We want to work with you guys anyways about the new Ron Paul sh*t.
844 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:09:45am |
845 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:09:55am |
re: #816 SFGoth
He jumped in a few years ago with Pelosi to "support" glowbull warming. He changes positions at a whim. He also has the rep. of shutting down the Guv (what's wrong with that?) while Speaker which will dog him, as well as his being a jackass of a husband.
Yes all true, still like him. At any rate I preferred Romney over McCain so I wouldn't be disappointed if I was offered that choice. Hey, are you really into Gothic clothing?
846 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:10:48am |
re: #842 Killgore Trout
Do I recall correctly that we never had confirmation that the event even took place. Is this the same group that was mentioned in the CAIR press release?
Not sure- but I do know that Spokista is now another cog in the massive Johnson machinery set out to persecute innocent little robert. It was a set up! ;)
847 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:02am |
re: #812 Kenneth
Was browsing Newsweek the other day, they suggested that rigging the election was Khameini's way to cement his position as the 'true' successor to Ruhollah Khomeini (there was this other successor, but he fell "out of favor") and end a political struggle within the clerical elite that dates back to the 80s.
Rafsanjani's been Khameini's rival for a long time.
848 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:11am |
re: #812 Kenneth
Something about it here:
Rafsanjani in Qom to outflank Khamenei
Rafsanjani is every bit the islamofacist that Achmadinejad is, but he wears a tie so he is considered "moderate."
849 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:13am |
re: #830 OldLineTexan
And I'll send some
capybarasGiant Killer Rats from South America*!
* Actual sign for capybara displayed at Coney Island, NY, complete with crude painting of predatory capybara leaping, fangs bared, on hapless explorer... I'm not making this up
850 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:13am |
851 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:33am |
re: #807 quickjustice
We should arrange to get lots of pictures of our diplomats munching hot dogs and yukking it up on the 4th of July with Iranian thugs. And shove them down Obama's throat from now until election day 2012.
* * * * *
You seriously think Obama's state department would release pictures of Iranian thugs partying with Hillary's troops on the GLorious Fourth? That'll be TOP SECRET partying.
The whole world saw Hillary kissing Suha Arafat whose hubby, Yasser Arafat yukked it up for 8 years in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House. No one cared terrorists had standing invitation to soil our sheets.
Democrats get tingly sensations from meeting with terrorists & enemies of freedom.
John Kerry & Vietcong
Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Mr. Nelson with Bashir Al Assad
Candidate Obama with his friend Rashid Khalidi (SORRY, VIDEO & PICTURES LOCKED UP by the L.A. TIMES)
852 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:33am |
re: #842 Killgore Trout
Yup....
Anti-Islam Speaker Tied to 'Eurofacists'
April 24 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Council on
American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) revealed today that a speaker for an
event next week at American University (AU) in Washington, D.C., will
also take part in an upcoming "Eurofacist" conference in Europe.Robert Spencer, publisher of the anti-Islam Internet hate site "Jihad
Watch," is scheduled to speak at AU on April 27 about "The Threat of
Militant Islam." The event is sponsored by a student group called Youth
for Western Civilization (YWC), which describes itself as the "West's
right wing youth movement." YWC's mission statement says: "This movement
is focused on the support of Western history, identity, high culture,
and pride and opposition to radical multiculturalism, political
correctness, racial preferences, mass immigration, and socialism.
Wow, same group. He met with them in secret. Tsk, tsk.
853 | Spockista Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:34am |
BBL and will let you know about getting the vid out
BYE!
854 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:11:35am |
re: #752 pingjockey
Hey my friend - be careful with that "plan of attack" - Just sayin..........given that different cancers are treated differently, chemo means no radiation, radiation should come first. At least with my cancer, you're mileage may vary - seriously, if you can, please reply to my e-mail from yesterday!
855 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:12:00am |
856 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:12:06am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Here is a very explicit CARTOON about Iran, in today's TIMES/London ...
861 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:13:08am |
862 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:13:24am |
re: #837 laZardo
That's a good question because the Gulf gets nice and narrow 'round Iran way, and then it's mostly wide open space in the desert afterwards.
Slip a few [insert respective currency here] to the border guards, look for gaps, nobody notices.
Cars and boats?
863 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:13:28am |
re: #812 Kenneth
Something about it here:
Rafsanjani in Qom to outflank Khamenei
Thanks.
This is page 2 of a Michael Ledeen column from the 22nd on PJM.
Last para in the section at the top of the page spells it out.
864 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:13:51am |
Has anyone else noticed the absolute silence of NOW type orgs on the situation in Iran. . .
865 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:14:22am |
re: #848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Rafsanjani is every bit the islamofacist that Achmadinejad is, but he wears a tie so he is considered "moderate."
Indeed - theya re all as bad as each other, but should Rafsanjani really be able to get rid of Khamenei and Ahmadinejad, he'll have opened the gates for otehrs to get rid of him.
Once people see that Ayatollahs can be deposed ...
This is just the beginning, this is not an end stage by any means.
866 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:14:23am |
re: #852 Killgore Trout
Yup....
Anti-Islam Speaker Tied to 'Eurofacists'
Wow, same group. He met with them in secret. Tsk, tsk.
I don't care for Robert Spencer a whit, but please. Evidently it was no secret, since CAIR had a press release. There is nothing to seethe over here.
867 | J.S. Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:14:28am |
CNN is airing audio reports from Iran -- it's sounding very, very bad..They're saying that people are being beaten, thrown off bridges, buses stopped, people taken out and clubbed, etc. They're asking for help.
868 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:14:37am |
I am ashamed of these groups all over again. . .solidarity for some women. . .not others
869 | songbird Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:14:43am |
Greetings Lizards!
Back from the work out, sweaty but feeling smugly virtuous!
What did I miss?
870 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:14:50am |
re: #828 Occasional Reader
al-Sistani saved the US project in Iraq. If not for him, Bush would have been a one-term disaster, the US would pulled out & Mookie Sadr would be running the joint as a branch plant for the Iranian mullahs.
871 | Noam Sayin' Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:00am |
Clerics join Iran's anti-government protests
(CNN) -- A photo showing Iranian clerics prominently participating in an anti-government protest speaks volumes about the new face of Iran's opposition movement.
Clerics in robes and turbans join rallies to protest the disputed presidential election results in Iran.In a blatant act of defiance, a group of Mullahs took to the streets of Tehran, to protest election results that returned incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to power.
Whether these clerics voted for Ahmadinejad or one of the opposition candidates is unknown. What is important here, is the decision to march against the will of Iran's supreme leader who called the results final and declared demonstrations illegal.
872 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:13am |
re: #836 realwest
Hey my friend. Down here in Charloot, the local water utility wants to increase our rates because we conserved TOO MUCH WATER during last year's drought and they didn't bring in enough revenue!
Boy that makes me flush with anger.
BTW realwest, I'm curious, is Mom your mother or your other?
873 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:13am |
CNN banner:
Security forces wielding clubs and firing weapons beat back protesters who flocked to a Tehran square, sources say.
875 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:19am |
re: #867 J.S.
CNN is airing audio reports from Iran -- it's sounding very, very bad..They're saying that people are being beaten, thrown off bridges, buses stopped, people taken out and clubbed, etc. They're asking for help.
My G-d! Hello assholebama. . .their fists are unclenched, and they are getting beat. . .
876 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:20am |
877 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:27am |
re: #761 alegrias
Good morning alergrias! Uh, that was 700 teachers in NY City alone. Lord knows about the rest of the state.
Or maybe lawhawk!
878 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:30am |
re: #850 Spare O'Lake
Blast the sucker right off the wall!
(the thermostat)
I have two since I have two A/C pumps. Utility bills run between $500.00 and $600.00 a month.
879 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:34am |
re: #811 MandyManners
Fucking pathetic.
It just allows the utility companies to coordinate the units in a neighborhood to save energy. i.e. if 100 AC compressors decide to start at 10 AM sharp due to rising temp, they might delay mine turning on by a few minutes. I won't notice, but the surge load will be much less. As long as I don't notice and it saves me money, I don't find it pathetic.
880 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:34am |
re: #765 avanti
The local utility company has control of mine, but it was voluntary and saves me quite a bit of money. It cycles off now and then, but I never really notice it.
How many people did the utility company hire to control your thermostat and everyone else's? What was the increase in you utility bill AND, more importantly, are non-volunteers also paying a part of the increased costs on their own utility bills?
You have given a government controlled entity the ability to control the core temp of your home. TAKE BACK YOUR THERMOSTAT!
881 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:15:47am |
re: #828 Occasional Reader
While I'd prefer that nobody sporting the title "Ayatollah" were involved in Iranian politics at all, al-Sistani seems to be more or less okay, as Ayatollahs go. Interesting.
JIC -- see my 863 re the Ledeen column -- read that para.
882 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:05am |
re: #861 DisturbedEma
Intense- it would be the height of irony if the murder of this woman, any women, would lead to the fall of this regime. . .
Newt was on with Hugh Hewitt yesterday, and he thinks the fall of the mullahs and the rise of democracy is inevitable (that they've passed the point of no return), although it may take several years.
883 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:14am |
re: #879 avanti
re: #811 MandyManners
It just allows the utility companies to coordinate the units in a neighborhood to save energy. i.e. if 100 AC compressors decide to start at 10 AM sharp due to rising temp, they might delay mine turning on by a few minutes. I won't notice, but the surge load will be much less. As long as I don't notice and it saves me money, I don't find it pathetic.
. . .
884 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:18am |
re: #864 DisturbedEma
Has anyone else noticed the absolute silence of NOW type orgs on the situation in Iran. . .
To be fair, NOW is dedicated to American women.
885 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:30am |
Jeez. talf on the phone for 5 minutes, you folks go to warp drive in posts!
886 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:35am |
Here is a collection of tweets from persiankiwi:
'# reports of street fighting in Vanak Sq, Tajrish sq, Azadi Sq - now - #Iranelection - Sea of Green - Allah Akbar1 minute ago from web
#
rumour they are tracking high use of phone lines to find internet users - must move from here now - #Iranelection6 minutes ago from web
#
phone line was cut and we lost internet - #Iranelection - getting more difficult to log into net - #Iranelection10 minutes ago from web
#
all shops was closed - nowhere to go - they follow ppls with helicopters - smoke and fire is everywhere #Iranelectionabout 1 hour ago from web
#
ppl run into alleys and militia standing there waiting - from 2 sides they attack ppl in middle of alleys #Iranelectionabout 1 hour ago from web
#
so many ppl arrested - young & old - they take ppl away - #Iranelection - we lose our groupabout 1 hour ago from web
#
saw 7/8 militia beating one woman with baton on ground - she had no defense nothing - #Iranelection sure that she is deadabout 1 hour ago from web
#
they were waiting for us - they all have guns and riot uniforms - it was like a mouse trap - ppl being shot like animals #Iranelectionabout 1 hour ago from web
#
I see many ppl with broken arms/legs/heads - blood everywhere - pepper gas like war - #Iranelectionabout 2 hours ago from web
#
just in from Baharestan Sq - situation today is terrible - they beat the ppls like animals - #Iranelection RT RT RTabout 2 hours ago from web '
If reine has already posted them, please forgive this duoble posting!
887 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:38am |
re: #867 J.S.
CNN is airing audio reports from Iran -- it's sounding very, very bad..They're saying that people are being beaten, thrown off bridges, buses stopped, people taken out and clubbed, etc. They're asking for help.
Thuggery seems to be winning. This is just terrible.
888 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:16:47am |
Obama's Iran Policy is Dead
By Jonah Goldberg
Here is the one immutable fact of President Barack Obama's foreign policy agenda as it relates to Iran: It's over. The rule book he came in with is as irrelevant as a tourist guide to the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
If the forces of reform and democracy win, Obama's plan to negotiate with the regime is moot, for the regime will be gone. And if the forces of reform are crushed into submission by the regime, Obama's plan is moot because the regime will still be there.
Politics and decency will simply demand that the world condemn or shun the regime of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei if they come out on top. Even the most soulless realists will be repulsed by the blood on the regime's collective hands.
889 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:17:16am |
re: #887 Occasional Reader
Thuggery seems to be winning. This is just terrible.
Wait until our president makes overtures to them.
890 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:17:17am |
891 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:17:22am |
re: #864 DisturbedEma
Has anyone else noticed the absolute silence of NOW type orgs on the situation in Iran. . .
* * * *
The National Organization for Women is taking baby steps--recently, they summoned all their courage to defend a 14 year old girl from a lecherous David Letterman.
892 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:17:36am |
re: #887 Occasional Reader
Thuggery seems to be winning. This is just terrible.
Does anyone know of a strong country, with a willing government, that would help them?
893 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:18:07am |
re: #852 Killgore Trout
Yup....
Anti-Islam Speaker Tied to 'Eurofacists'
Wow, same group. He met with them in secret. Tsk, tsk.
Who would guess that a guy named "Epstein" would run a white supremacist group? Weirod.
894 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:18:08am |
re: #879 avanti
It just allows the utility companies to coordinate the units in a neighborhood to save energy. i.e. if 100 AC compressors decide to start at 10 AM sharp due to rising temp, they might delay mine turning on by a few minutes. I won't notice, but the surge load will be much less. As long as I don't notice and it saves me money, I don't find it pathetic.
What's fucking pathetic is your giving up your soveregnity in your own home. What's next? Allowing the utility to control how often/when you flush your toilet or run your water?
896 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:18:59am |
897 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:19:04am |
re: #891 alegrias
How brave. . .// Nevermind frakking honor kilings in New York, Texas and Ohio. . .
898 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:19:29am |
re: #890 DisturbedEma
Never agreed with that position either. . .after all, haven't we come a long way baby? And I did say NOW type. . .
They have spoken out against honor killings here.
899 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:19:36am |
re: #852 Killgore Trout
Yup....
Anti-Islam Speaker Tied to 'Eurofacists'
Wow, same group. He met with them in secret. Tsk, tsk.
Dear Youth For Western Civilization,
Please take Mr. Spencer and go found your own party. You are not welcome at GOP rallies, nor at our conferences. Take your racism and get stuffed.
Fuck You Very Much,
All Sane Republicans
900 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:19:52am |
901 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:04am |
re: #896 Ward Cleaver
True that, as they did not pause when they began to attack Palin- which led me to end my association with them. . .
902 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:08am |
re: #897 DisturbedEma
How brave. . .// Nevermind frakking honor kilings in New York, Texas and Ohio. . .
NOW NY did make a strong statement against the killing in Buffalo. There was a thread here for it.
903 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:12am |
This SC Governor Mark Sanford thing gets more & more strange.
The original story is that he disappeared to hike the Appalachian Trail.
A Reporter was just on FNC saying that she intercepted him at the airport deplaning a flight from Argentina!
905 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:34am |
re: #795 taxfreekiller
Hi my friend! I'd have to say yes, only cause I've never seen the Mexican type. These do appear a little smalller that the Bald Eagles I've seen from oh 100 yards or so away though!
906 | alegrias Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:34am |
re: #877 realwest
Good morning alergrias! Uh, that was 700 teachers in NY City alone. Lord knows about the rest of the state.
Or maybe lawhawk!
* * * *
Morning to you too.
Thanks for the correction.
It makes sense then when states threaten to "cut" education, they may just be cutting off thousands of teachers who aren't teaching or working!
Yes, like the United Auto Workers paid people to stand around.
(As if China or Japan would do that and remain competitive)
PS, I owe you an email!
907 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:34am |
re: #868 DisturbedEma
I totally share your feelings. I have been disappointed with women's groups, and in fact, many so-called progressive women I know when it comes to their stepping up to the plate and across party lines. The Palin situations was the most egregious domestic example but their absolute silence on women's rights in the ME is really deafening.
908 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:54am |
re: #898 MandyManners
In America. . .really? Must have missed it- as I no longer get the memos:)
909 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:20:55am |
re: #894 MandyManners
What's fucking pathetic is your giving up your soveregnity in your own home. What's next? Allowing the utility to control how often/when you flush your toilet or run your water?
Maybe he'd like a nice toaster, too. Or the latest electric lawn mower.
910 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:21:15am |
re: #888 Kenneth
Obama's Iran Policy is Dead
By Jonah Goldberg
Up the creek ... (and soon to be paddled for it)
911 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:21:27am |
re: #903 opnion
This SC Governor Mark Sanford thing gets more & more strange.
The original story is that he disappeared to hike the Appalachian Trail.
A Reporter was just on FNC saying that she intercepted him at the airport deplaning a flight from Argentina!
I hate that word.
(The B.A. junket has been linked to upthread, btw.)
912 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:21:52am |
re: #831 pingjockey
Last time I flew was in 2007. It lived up to all my nonexpectations. Crowded, rude and I mean RUDE TSA people in Wenatchee, Seattle, Denver. KC and Chicago. Was not impressed.
Last Christmas the waitress in the Denver bar (I wound up with the same one going and coming back) was awesome. 8:15 am on the way out. "you look like you could use a bloody mary, double too" I'd been up for 4 hours. I got the bloody mary and a donut. I had no problems with TSA in Denver because I never left the airport. I did not really have a problem with TSA in Chicago either, except, shit, I'm standing next in line to go through and some jerk comes along and says "please move down to the next line" I get into the next line where three or four generations of one family were just checking through. Wound up standing for another 1/2 hour. Why did they do that?
913 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:08am |
re: #796 MandyManners
I saw some really eerie footage on Fox this morning of one of our choppers tracking Talibanis and then blowing their shit all over the place.
Yeah, but Fox's point was they had to get clearance to shoot SIX DIFFERENT TIMES to ensure no civilians were hurt.
914 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:08am |
re: #903 opnion
This SC Governor Mark Sanford thing gets more & more strange.
The original story is that he disappeared to hike the Appalachian Trail.
A Reporter was just on FNC saying that she intercepted him at the airport deplaning a flight from Argentina!
Argentina/Appalachia. Poor guy just was confused.
915 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:10am |
916 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:19am |
re: #901 DisturbedEma
True that, as they did not pause when they began to attack Palin- which led me to end my association with them. . .
You should read 'Woman's Inhumanity to Woman' by Dr Phyllis Chesler.
917 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:21am |
re: #909 Ward Cleaver
Gov't already mandated low flow toilets! IIRC, there's a booming business in home remodeling along the Canadian border. The remodelers go to Canada to get non low flow toilets.
918 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:24am |
re: #907 WinterCat
re: #868 DisturbedEma
I totally share your feelings. I have been disappointed with women's groups, and in fact, many so-called progressive women I know when it comes to their stepping up to the plate and across party lines. The Palin situations was the most egregious domestic example but their absolute silence on women's rights in the ME is really deafening.
I have personally started to shush women when they begin to complain about their lives. . .how hard it is to be taken seriously as a mother, or as a women. . .reminding them that they put nails in their own coffins with their shriking and illogical attacks on Palin. . .
919 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:25am |
re: #893 Ward Cleaver
He's a Buchananite....
Marcus Epstein
In 2007, Epstein was involved in a violent incident to which he later made an Alford plea[1]. The prosecutor alleged that he encountered an African American woman on the street, struck her on the head, and uttered the word "n*****" before fleeing.[2] [3] Allegedly, Epstein had been drinking.[4] When the incident came to light in 2009, Epstein was still performing staffing duties for Tancredo and he remained as executive director of Team America PAC, though he was scheduled to resign later in 2009.[3] The head of Team America, Bay Buchanan, described the incident as "out of character" for Epstein and said he had received treatment, for severe depression.[5] An investigator at the Southern Poverty Law Center said that Epstein had a history of involvement in "racist circles".
920 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:28am |
re: #887 Occasional Reader
Thuggery seems to be winning. This is just terrible.
so far, but that's what it takes...pressure is mounting on the Mullahs
921 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:53am |
re: #908 DisturbedEma
In America. . .really? Must have missed it- as I no longer get the memos:)
Sharmuta at 902 mentions the thread Charles posted about it.
922 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:22:54am |
re: #903 opnion
This SC Governor Mark Sanford thing gets more & more strange.
The original story is that he disappeared to hike the Appalachian Trail.
A Reporter was just on FNC saying that she intercepted him at the airport deplaning a flight from Argentina!
So he confused Argentina with Appalachia - big deal.
/
923 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:23:29am |
925 | Ward Cleaver Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:23:31am |
927 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:23:55am |
re: #892 Walter L. Newton
Does anyone know of a strong country, with a willing government, that would help them?
I used to know one but I don't think the leader want to be seen as meddling right now.
928 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:24:18am |
re: #880 Eowyn2
How many people did the utility company hire to control your thermostat and everyone else's? What was the increase in you utility bill AND, more importantly, are non-volunteers also paying a part of the increased costs on their own utility bills?
You have given a government controlled entity the ability to control the core temp of your home. TAKE BACK YOUR THERMOSTAT!
My bill went down, there is a lower monthly rate. I have no idea what it costs to run the computer at the utility company that talks to my unit, but if they can sell me energy cheaper, it must not be a deal breaker. I was skeptical for the first year, but it's not a issue to me anymore.
929 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:24:19am |
re: #909 Ward Cleaver
Maybe he'd like a nice toaster, too. Or the latest electric lawn mower.
Looks like a half-built go-cart.
930 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:24:27am |
re: #921 MandyManners
Sharmuta at 902 mentions the thread Charles posted about it.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
931 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:24:31am |
re: #867 J.S.
CNN is airing audio reports from Iran -- it's sounding very, very bad..They're saying that people are being beaten, thrown off bridges, buses stopped, people taken out and clubbed, etc. They're asking for help.
But hey, party with their diplomats at our embassies for the Fourth.
932 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:24:51am |
'Possibility of Mousavi being guarded is increasing. While sources close to him deny this, other sources confirm it.#iranelection'
(iranbaan)
933 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:24:59am |
re: #927 KenJen
So, they die with unclenched fists. . .G-d help them as the "leader" and "great orator" cannot put action behind his pretty words. . .fucker!
934 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:03am |
Cool, they just found a little girl who disappeared with her mom and a Level III sex offender.
935 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:14am |
re: #892 Walter L. Newton
Does anyone know of a strong country, with a willing government, that would help them?
I'd like to see the Iraqis toss in with them....but I have not thought it through...seems like a good thing
936 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:22am |
So who else is waiting for the Norks to wipe us off the map?
937 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:32am |
re: #918 DisturbedEma
During the election, I actually had a very liberal woman tell me that Palin should be home with her children...
938 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:32am |
re: #899 Dark_Falcon
What's amazing is that for weeks afterward there was no mention of Spencer giving the speech or of the meeting itself. There were some anarchists/antifa types who were going to disrupt the meeting but the scheduled meeting room was empty. We just assumed it was quietly canceled but it looks like they held the meeting in secret. Heh. Spencer is busted.
939 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:33am |
re: #808 pingjockey
Yep. UAW gonna go on strike against itself when they don't get what they want? Heh.
They are actually already in that bind since Ford didn't take Fed Money so what happens if UAW strikes Ford - does the UAW show it's fellowship as in the past by striking against Government Motors or Fiat?!?
940 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:39am |
re: #823 opnion
I would exclude one or two like Ron Paul or Huckabee, other than that I would pr5obably vote for any Republican.
You and enough voters to create an electoral majority? Not likely until the GOP is done wandering its desert.
941 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:49am |
re: #931 opnion
Think they will juxtapost that on Koz? Like they did for Jenna Bush's wedding- pictures of the drunken (!) revelers and the dead protestors?
942 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:49am |
re: #934 pingjockey
Cool, they just found a little girl who disappeared with her mom and a Level III sex offender.
I saw that too. Always nice to have a happy ending once in awhile.
943 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:25:56am |
re: #913 realwest
Yeah, but Fox's point was they had to get clearance to shoot SIX DIFFERENT TIMES to ensure no civilians were hurt.
I'm still suprised someone hasn't claimed that it was a wedding party en route to the chapel.
944 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:26:17am |
re: #911 Occasional Reader
I hate that word.
(The B.A. junket has been linked to upthread, btw.)
You hate that word?
945 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:26:34am |
re: #935 albusteve
I don't think that is gonna happen. 8 year war, etc... May the Comforter look out for those brave folks in Iran.
946 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:26:51am |
Cool story of a paper delivery guy who rescued a guy from a house fire and then continued to deliver his papers after the fire department arrived. Gives you a little hope in man (and woman) -kind.
947 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:26:54am |
It must be truly awful in Tehran right now:
'# they pull away the dead into trucks - like factory - no human can do this - we beg Allah for save us - #Iranelectionless than a minute ago from web
#
Lalezar Sq is same as Baharestan - unbelevable - ppls murdered everywhere - #Iranelection5 minutes ago from web
#
they catch ppl with mobile - so many killed today - so many injured - Allah Akbar - they take one of us - #Iranelection6 minutes ago from web
#
in Baharestan we saw militia with axe choping ppl like meat - blood everywhere - like butcher - Allah Akbar - #Iranelection RT RT RT'
(persiankiwi)
That is even more inhumane than Tiananmen Square.
948 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:27:16am |
re: #909 Ward Cleaver
Maybe he'd like a nice toaster, too. Or the latest electric lawn mower.
I'll agree that it should be voluntary. If you don't mind paying more for electricity because you fear losing control, you should have that right.
949 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:27:17am |
Can we get the I hope all of you who. . McCain vote again?
950 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:27:26am |
951 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:28:14am |
952 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:28:17am |
953 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:28:17am |
re: #947 yma o hyd
It must be truly awful in Tehran right now:
'# they pull away the dead into trucks - like factory - no human can do this - we beg Allah for save us - #Iranelectionless than a minute ago from web
#
Lalezar Sq is same as Baharestan - unbelevable - ppls murdered everywhere - #Iranelection5 minutes ago from web#
they catch ppl with mobile - so many killed today - so many injured - Allah Akbar - they take one of us - #Iranelection6 minutes ago from web#
in Baharestan we saw militia with axe choping ppl like meat - blood everywhere - like butcher - Allah Akbar - #Iranelection RT RT RT'
(persiankiwi)That is even more inhumane than Tiananmen Square.
Well, we can't be seen as meddling now, can we?
/
954 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:28:19am |
re: #937 WinterCat
I had one that said, "HOW could she be so irresponsible to get pregnant while in office?"
955 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:28:49am |
re: #931 opnion
But hey, party with their diplomats at our embassies for the Fourth.
At least the Diplo corps can engage in "vigorous debate" with their iranina counterparts if they don't mind letting business get in the way of 4th celebrations. /
The irony of hosting those scum on the Fourth of July. Sick.
956 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:28:55am |
re: #947 yma o hyd
That is even more inhumane than Tiananmen Square.
We in the West tend to chronically underestimate the amount of brutality these regimes are willing to employ.
957 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:29:13am |
re: #936 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
So who else is waiting for the Norks to wipe us off the map?
*whack*
LET'S HAVE SOME FUCKING OPTIMISM!
959 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:30:21am |
961 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:30:28am |
re: #954 DisturbedEma
I remember reading comments on DU saying that Palin had no right to bring a Down Syndrome child into the world, and she should have aborted.
Did I ever mention how those sick fuckers piss me off?
962 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:30:33am |
PJTV report on the Iran crisis and Obama's response.
963 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:30:47am |
'Everybody is under arrest & cant move - Mousavi - Karroubi even rumour Khatami is in house guard - #Iranelection -2 minutes ago from web '
(Persiankiwi)
964 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:30:51am |
re: #957 MandyManners
I guess that's my cue to skedaddle. Got some design work to catch up on.
965 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:30:54am |
re: #957 MandyManners
*whack*
LET'S HAVE SOME FUCKING OPTIMISM!
Capt Oblivious ignores your whacking and continues sarc
966 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:02am |
re: #956 Occasional Reader
We in the West tend to chronically underestimate the amount of brutality these regimes are willing to employ.
Unfortunately you are 100% correct. We are a blessed yet spoiled population compared to most of the rest of the world.
967 | karmic_inquisitor Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:11am |
re: #957 MandyManners
*whack*
LET'S HAVE SOME FUCKING OPTIMISM!
The beatings will continue until morale improves ...
969 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:31am |
re: #941 DisturbedEma
Think they will juxtapost that on Koz? Like they did for Jenna Bush's wedding- pictures of the drunken (!) revelers and the dead protestors?
Doubtful. As I see it , outside of the inappropriateness of partying with Iranian diplomats during this brutality, should you have diplomat guests from a nation that you do not actually have formal relations with?
970 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:34am |
re: #879 avanti
If it's any consolation, $500 to $600 a month for utility bills is pretty pathetic imo. Must have a very large house, that is one hell of a bill. SMUD has a similar program in Sac, if I had air conditioning I would be on it like you. You are right, they are just balancing the load and it has no serious change in temps but saes you money. I cool and warm my house using radiant floor tubing, very efficient.
971 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:35am |
re: #948 avanti
I thought the new technology, and money we were spending collectively through borrowing and taxation was going to bring the cost down.
972 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:45am |
re: #953 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Well, we can't be seen as meddling now, can we?
/
No.
There is no meddling, by no one.
Shameful!
973 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:31:54am |
re: #967 karmic_inquisitor
The beatings will continue until morale improves ...
YOU WILL CHEER UP OR THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES!
974 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:32:04am |
"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.
Riiight... of course you will.
Now, it's time to take your pills, there's a good boy.
975 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:32:33am |
re: #970 turn
If it's any consolation, $500 to $600 a month for utility bills is pretty pathetic imo. Must have a very large house, that is one hell of a bill. SMUD has a similar program in Sac, if I had air conditioning I would be on it like you. You are right, they are just balancing the load and it has no serious change in temps but saes you money. I cool and warm my house using radiant floor tubing, very efficient.
Sounds great except for the SMUD in my SAC, but I'll take your word for it.
976 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:32:59am |
re: #969 opnion
re: #941 DisturbedEma
Doubtful. As I see it , outside of the inappropriateness of partying with Iranian diplomats during this brutality, should you have diplomat guests from a nation that you do not actually have formal relations with?
Sputter. . .but sputter. . .that would not be fair. . .sputter. . .//
977 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:11am |
re: #958 Sharmuta
I was just looking into that. They seem like a mainstream conservative group. It's a real shame to see them involved with white nationalists.
978 | albusteve Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:14am |
re: #971 formercorpsman
I thought the new technology, and money we were spending collectively through borrowing and taxation was going to bring the cost down.
Obama lied
people fried
979 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:14am |
re: #868 DisturbedEma
I am ashamed of these groups all over again. . .solidarity for some women. . .not others
some women are more equal than others.
some women just don't know whats good for them
980 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:33am |
re: #956 Occasional Reader
We in the West tend to chronically underestimate the amount of brutality these regimes are willing to employ.
Indeed.
Jihadis are one thing, but combine a jihadi mindset with pure political powerplay, and this is what you get.
981 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:36am |
re: #975 Creeping Eruption
Sounds great except for the SMUD in my SAC, but I'll take your word for it.
Tou have a SMUD in your SAC!? Yank it out!
/
982 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:39am |
re: #856 yma o hyd
Hey {yma} - explicit but now, apparently, true - reports are that a lot of clerics are in the streets with the "dissidents".
How are you doing today?
983 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:33:43am |
984 | karmic_inquisitor Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:34:06am |
Who needs a press that is skeptical of the powerful? Why have a first amendment when we have such a glorious and intelligent leader who can make important decisions for us? Better that the White House press corps be a saucer eyed pack of sycophants than that they actually engage in any anti-social activities like asking tough questions of the dear leader.
985 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:34:06am |
re: #975 Creeping Eruption
Sounds great except for the SMUD in my SAC, but I'll take your word for it.
They have very good creams for that now. I hear cranberry juice helps, too.
986 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:34:39am |
Huffington Post is on top of the Iran news
Check out the woman yelling "beat me" to the security guards face.
987 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:34:43am |
re: #977 Killgore Trout
I was just looking into that. They seem like a mainstream conservative group. It's a real shame to see them involved with white nationalists.
Did you see in their video promotions the shot of Tancredo?
988 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:34:45am |
re: #849 Occasional Reader
* Actual sign for capybara displayed at Coney Island, NY, complete with crude painting of predatory capybara leaping, fangs bared, on hapless explorer... I'm not making this up
But what about the Giant Rat of Sumatra?
989 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:35:23am |
re: #959 DisturbedEma
All while condemning Israel for their "abuses"
Oh of course!
The same moonbats who screech 'genocide' when Israel defend herself against the hamasthugs and fataholes and a few palis die - they think all these iranian dissidents ought to have stayed at home anyway, and a few dead peoplea re neither here nor there ..
990 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:35:32am |
re: #978 albusteve
dear leader ignored the tweets
people died in the streets
991 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:35:37am |
re: #296 reine.de.tout
and you're obviously not John. He has responsibility in this, too, for allowing Kate to run the show with hardly a peep most of the time, until things reached the point where he and Kate couldn't stand each other.
Thanks- although it did take us about five years to learn how to fight effectively and fair. Marriage works best if it is an adult/adult relationship not a parent/child relationship. (As much as I despised the show my daughters loved it. They were heartbroken when the rift began to show. Its been hard not to say I told you so, but they don't need the grief from me.)
992 | Occasional Reader Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:35:40am |
re: #975 Creeping Eruption
Sounds great except for the SMUD in my SAC, but I'll take your word for it.
It's funny that you, of all posters, should mention it... SMUD in your SAC can actually cause a Creeping Eruption. It ain't pretty.
993 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:35:50am |
re: #955 Creeping Eruption
At least the Diplo corps can engage in "vigorous debate" with their iranina counterparts if they don't mind letting business get in the way of 4th celebrations. /
The irony of hosting those scum on the Fourth of July. Sick.
I know that my attitude toward BHO is poor, but it seems like he displays a lack of respect for the U.S having these thugs party at our embassies for the 4th.
994 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:35:56am |
re: #988 Kosh's Shadow
But what about the Giant Rat of Sumatra?
I'd be more concerned about the Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka.
995 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:36:05am |
re: #845 turn
Hey, are you really into Gothic clothing?
Ummm, is that a serious question?
[Link: www.viona-art.com...]
[Link: www.viona-art.com...]
I really, really want to go to this ball in Belgium next month, but don't have the time: [Link: www.viona-art.com...]
You'd be surprised how many more non-lib goths there are than you'd think.
996 | karmic_inquisitor Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:36:14am |
997 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:36:14am |
re: #987 Sharmuta
Hmmm, that must be the connection.
998 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:36:32am |
re: #915 Creeping Eruption
I'll take your 60% for my %70+
Oh, I was talking about Baton Rouge which is where reine is (I think). I'm in Sac - 46% now. Where are you CE?
1000 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:36:43am |
re: #989 yma o hyd
Oh of course!
The same moonbats who screech 'genocide' when Israel defend herself against the hamasthugs and fataholes and a few palis die - they think all these iranian dissidents ought to have stayed at home anyway, and a few dead peoplea re neither here nor there ..
"That's what happens when America forces a regime change on a people who finally reached democracy. The only way democracy will revive itself will only be through their own collective efforts, not through any foreign meddling."
/
1001 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:36:52am |
re: #992 Occasional Reader
It's funny that you, of all posters, should mention it... SMUD in your SAC can actually cause a Creeping Eruption. It ain't pretty.
Tell me about it. That was why I was wondering why TURN was promoting it . . but hey. . .
1002 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:37:00am |
1003 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:37:24am |
re: #976 DisturbedEma
Sputter. . .but sputter. . .that would not be fair. . .sputter. . .//
They have to unclench their fists to grab a hot dog. Obama is a genius.
1004 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:37:37am |
re: #996 karmic_inquisitor
re: #986 avanti
Huffington Post is on top of the Iran newsCheck out the woman yelling "beat me" to the security guards face.
Wonder what the Huffpo coverage will look like on 4th of July when Obama places hot dogs in clenched fists of the Mullahs at the White House cook out?
"Palin parties while people eat dirt"
1005 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:37:39am |
re: #994 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'd be more concerned about the Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka.
It has nothing against The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County
1006 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:37:50am |
re: #982 realwest
Hey {yma} - explicit but now, apparently, true - reports are that a lot of clerics are in the streets with the "dissidents".
How are you doing today?
Hiya, {rw}!
Trying not to think of personal loss, thats why I'm here, and why I'm following the tweets.
Today was the funeral of my dear friend Anne ... can't dwell on it or I'll dissolve.
1007 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:37:53am |
re: #978 albusteve
I understand the sarc. But this was a pretty large platform issue during the campaign.
My reference to new technology was a reference to alternative energy sources.
The funny thing about this, is the left is usually asserting the country is run by corporations manipulating our lives.
Perhaps I was watching a different left in this country just a short while ago.
1008 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:38:13am |
re: #1002 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Or the Sumatran Rat-Monkey?
Ooooooh! Dead Alive reference! Obscure!
1009 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:38:23am |
1010 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:38:57am |
re: #884 MandyManners
"NOW is dedicated to some American women."
FTFY!
1011 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:39:02am |
11:25 AM ET --
Iranian describes horrifying scene on CNN. CNN just aired a heartbreaking phone call from an exasperated female Iranian student describing events today. In a desperate tone, the caller said she saw police violently beating people "like animals" until they were covered in blood. She said she saw a woman and an older man savagely beaten, and ended her call pleading with the CNN reporter, "You should help us! You should intervene!"Another Iranian who has been reliable in the past posts on Facebook, "In Baharestan we saw militia with axe choping ppl like meat - blood everywhere - like butcher . . . Fighting in Vanak Sq, Tajrish sq, Azadi Sq - now . ."
We'll have the CNN video up shortly.
1012 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:39:10am |
re: #994 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Beer I was wondering where you were.
I don't think I have seen you post for some days now.
1013 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:39:26am |
re: #989 yma o hyd
The hypocracy of "human rights" NGOs is breathtaking. . .
1014 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:39:29am |
re: #957 MandyManners
That's right. The North Koreans could have an own goal when one of their missiles blows up on the launch pad taking out their techies. Kind of like this, which undermined the Soviet ICBM program for some time.
1016 | Sharmuta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:39:35am |
Walter- there was a speech robert was slated to give that mysteriously disappeared from one of the sites promoting it. IIRC- the school wasn't showing it as an event, perhaps the WN group didn't have it either. It was fishy, and we never heard if the meeting happened or not. It was all kept on the QT.
1017 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:39:51am |
re: #998 turn
Oh, I was talking about Baton Rouge which is where reine is (I think). I'm in Sac - 46% now. Where are you CE?
Milwaukee.
It's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land.
1018 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:12am |
'# thank you ppls 4 supporting Sea of Green - pls remember always our martyrs - Allah Akbar - Allah Akbar - Allah Akbar #Iranelection2 minutes ago from web
#
we must go - dont know when we can get internet - they take 1 of us, they will torture and get names - now we must move fast - #Iranelection'
(Persiankiwi)
I pray fo them, and that they stay safe and ahead of the basiji.
1019 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:32am |
re: #937 WinterCat
During the election, I actually had a very liberal woman tell me that Palin should be home with her children...
Misogyny and sexism aren't confined to one side of the political spectrum-- or to one gender.
Some of the nastiest remarks I've heard about female candidates come from women-- and women from that candidate's own party. Conservatives and liberals both.
1020 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:34am |
re: #309 MandyManners
And, he looked around at his age and saw that he had eight kids and all kinds of reponsibilities.
He should've got a Corvette.
Don't do the deed if you can't raise your seed.
1021 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:34am |
1022 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:36am |
re: #986 avanti
Huffington Post is on top of the Iran news
Check out the woman yelling "beat me" to the security guards face.
Yes, no doubt Huffington's is featuring a lot of news from Iran. But saying they are on "top" of it is a little bit of stretching the facts. They are linking to a lot of articles, pictures and videos that are readily available on the internet, thanks to brave people in Iran and on the streets.
CNN has been running a complete section dedicated to Iran for days now, and Iran appears on almost every major news site in the world.
And besides, if there mission is to report news, than on "top" would be the correct position for them to be.
What's amazing is that you would think that this sort of reporting is so special. It seems to me this is the way journalism is suppose to work.
1024 | KenJen Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:47am |
re: #1003 opnion
They have to unclench their fists to grab a hot dog. Obama is a genius.
Yes. I see it now. The hot dog symbolizes an olive branch. How could I have missed it?
1025 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:40:54am |
re: #1017 Creeping Eruption
Milwaukee.
It's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land.
Also known and Illinois-Norte
/Ducking and blowing White Smoke
1026 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:41:07am |
re: #892 Walter L. Newton
Does anyone know of a strong country, with a willing government, that would help them?
Ah, crap, you hadda put in that "strong country" didn't ya?
Short answer is: NO!
1027 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:41:29am |
re: #1013 DisturbedEma
The hypocracy of "human rights" NGOs is breathtaking. . .
Yes - its the same moral equivalency which compares the Holocaust with the 'suffering' of the palis ..
1028 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:41:33am |
North Korea Threatens To Wipe Out The U.S. "Once And For All"
Might as well, not like anybody is going to stop you.
1030 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:41:53am |
re: #936 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Hey Kragar, I looked up the cissp thing yesterday. I didn't know you were in security. That's a pretty impressive credential.
1031 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:41:56am |
[Link: twitter.com...]
we must go - dont know when we can get internet - they take 1 of us, they will torture and get names - now we must move fast - #Iranelection6 minutes ago from webEverybody is under arrest & cant move - Mousavi - Karroubi even rumour Khatami is in house guard - #Iranelection -
1032 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:02am |
re: #1012 formercorpsman
Beer I was wondering where you were.
I don't think I have seen you post for some days now.
I was on a vacation last week, then have been too busy here at work until now.
1033 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:04am |
re: #1019 iceweasel
True, but only one political party toots its own superiority horn. . .
1034 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:10am |
re: #1019 iceweasel
Misogyny and sexism aren't confined to one side of the political spectrum-- or to one gender.
Some of the nastiest remarks I've heard about female candidates come from women-- and women from that candidate's own party. Conservatives and liberals both.
You mean like the things liberal women said about Sarah Palin?
1035 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:16am |
re: #1018 yma o hyd
'# thank you ppls 4 supporting Sea of Green - pls remember always our martyrs - Allah Akbar - Allah Akbar - Allah Akbar #Iranelection2 minutes ago from web
#
we must go - dont know when we can get internet - they take 1 of us, they will torture and get names - now we must move fast - #Iranelection'
(Persiankiwi)I pray fo them, and that they stay safe and ahead of the basiji.
I'm with you. I also pray that the loss of life so far is in vain.
1036 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:27am |
re: #1018 yma o hyd
They are in a very dangerous position.
1037 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:29am |
re: #1016 Sharmuta
Walter- there was a speech robert was slated to give that mysteriously disappeared from one of the sites promoting it. IIRC- the school wasn't showing it as an event, perhaps the WN group didn't have it either. It was fishy, and we never heard if the meeting happened or not. It was all kept on the QT.
Yes, I know, but, if CAIR had a press release on it, with all the details, then it wasn't a secret, just not a well know fact.
1038 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:42:35am |
re: #1003 opnion
They have to unclench their fists to grab a hot dog. Obama is a genius.
Nope, Biden bought the pork hot dogs. SEETHING!
1039 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:01am |
re: #1029 taxfreekiller
I know I have not been around much.
(2 baseball teams)
Did I miss something?
What is the Iran / July 4th thing?
1040 | Mr. Sandman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:01am |
re: #457 karmic_inquisitor
Killgore -
It looks like the Washington Post has become part of the vast right wing conspiracy mill on the issue of planted questions at the press conference:
This is a breakdown of the relationship between the media and the White House. The press have been co opted into becoming "part of the team" to "get the message out."
They no longer see the job as to investigate, scrutinize and inform - their job now is to educate dullards like me - the dullards who fail to see Obama as a sort of political savior for this country.
Anyway - there it is. A WaPo columnist indulging in a "right wing conspiracy theory" that is certain to undermine his credibility ...
Just as I noted yesterday, here is a perfect example of the myth of left-wing bias in the media--that is taken as an article of Bible-thumping faith among the hard right--being promoted, ironically, by a specious "scandal-story" invented by some of the media for gullible right-wing consumption.
These--how should I say--not too sharp cutting utensils in the kitchen drawer who leap to accept the idea that the President "obviously" knew the question beforehand are missing a few actually-obvious things. The Politico-hack and other media inventing a story here are obviously jealous that a lowly "internet reporter" gets to pre-empt them and ask the President a question someone from Iran had--on the basis of the solid reporting he's been doing that they haven't. The Politico piece for example noted the--to the non-green-eyed journalist population-- rather trivial point that Nico Pitney came second, before Reuters, when Reuters is "supposed" to come second. Really, who cares except petty, jealous hack-reporters.
1041 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:04am |
re: #994 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'd be more concerned about the Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka.
1042 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:25am |
re: #1028 Kenneth
North Korea Threatens To Wipe Out The U.S. "Once And For All"
Might as well, not like anybody is going to stop you.
/no, seriously. from the guy who wrote Red Dawn, too. OH SHI-
1043 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:28am |
re: #867 J.S.
CNN is airing audio reports from Iran -- it's sounding very, very bad..They're saying that people are being beaten, thrown off bridges, buses stopped, people taken out and clubbed, etc. They're asking for help.
The hardliners have gone into purge mode. This is not a country that can project its power beyond their borders if there's any sizable faction of the population which might give rise in opposition. Clearing-the-decks. In fact iirc, Saddam did much the same in 79' then moved on Iran the following year.
1044 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:29am |
1045 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:29am |
re: #1034 Kenneth
Even when I was a Democrat, I still felt that the reason Ann Coulter was so upsetting to my fellow dems was because she pointed out their hypocracy. . .well, and she is really hard core. . .but I would rather deal with hard core take no shit that wishy washy- any day!
1046 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:29am |
re: #1009 DisturbedEma
Well, yeah, but if they are not KOSHER hot dogs they will be pork. . .giggle
I don't know for sure, but I'll bet that when these diplomats get outside of Iran, they are not too observant. "Hey where ees liquor & infidel wild women?"
1047 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:43:48am |
re: #1032 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I though you probably were.
We finally decided to show up to game now.
1048 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:44:05am |
re: #1042 laZardo
Let's hear it for that Old School Spirit!
1049 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:44:14am |
OMG - its Hungary 1956 all over again.
They are getting ready to die:
'Allah - you are the creator of all and all must return to you - Allah Akbar - #Iranelection Sea of Green4 minutes ago from web '
(Persiankiwi)
1051 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:44:48am |
Here's the deal: you cannot rely on the Left to support freedom from tyranny. All my lib friends are about to find that out the hard way. If the president of the United States won't stand up for what's right (see Reagan, Solidarity, Berlin Wall, etc.) then in the medium run, the fight's lost.
1052 | Irish Rose Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:44:49am |
Wow, we're still in the morning open?
Charles must be sleeping in today.
1053 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:45:21am |
1054 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:45:37am |
re: #1052 Irish Rose
Wow, we're still in the morning open?
Charles must be sleeping in today.
Or deep in the Lab coming up with something...
1055 | WinterCat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:45:38am |
re: #1019 iceweasel
Then you weren't listening to the same media I listened to. Yes, Palin had her detractors on the conservative side. But please tell me you aren't trying to say that the criticism was equal from the right and the left.
1057 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:45:52am |
re: #1036 Killgore Trout
They are in a very dangerous position.
If you've read his earlier tweets - they are in enormous danger, and they know it.
I am full of admiration for their bravery.
May God protect them.
1058 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:46:38am |
re: #1053 DisturbedEma
Like the 9-11 monsters in the strip clubs?
Well, they could indulge a little, seeing how they were to "atone" in the coming days.
/spit
1059 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:46:40am |
1060 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:46:41am |
re: #1055 WinterCat
re: #1019 iceweasel
Then you weren't listening to the same media I listened to. Yes, Palin had her detractors on the conservative side. But please tell me you aren't trying to say that the criticism was equal from the right and the left.
And that the attacks on Palin were smears and widely supported. . .by the party, not the random attacks of outliers. . .
1062 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:47:06am |
1063 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:47:27am |
re: #1035 VegasRick
I'm with you. I also pray that the loss of life so far is in vain.
is NOT in
*not enough coffee!
1064 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:47:43am |
re: #1034 Kenneth
You mean like the things some liberal women said about Sarah Palin?
FTFY.
Yes, and that some liberal women said about Clinton, and some conservative women say about Michelle, and some conservative women said about Palin.
Misogyny and sexism cross party lines, and cross gender.
1065 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:47:58am |
re: #1050 pre-Boomer Marine brat
{yma}
Thank you, {pBMb}!
I was hoping for better news from Iran - but now, I think, I will cry sooner or later.
1066 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:47:58am |
re: #975 Creeping Eruption
heh. It really is a good program. The utilities need over capacity for peak times which costs them money that they can pass back to you if you help level their load. SMUD pumps water up into lakes in the Sierras at night then brings it back through generators at peaks in the days. The efficiency of the power plant is highest when it is run at constant output.
1068 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:48:10am |
re: #1060 DisturbedEma
Seems to me as if the criticism from the GOP had a flavor of trying to beat down a rival, rather than the personal attacks from the Dem's, etc.
1069 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:48:34am |
There's somethin' happening here...
What it is ain't exactly clear...
There's a man with a gun over there...
Tellin 'me I got to beware...
1070 | njdhockeyfan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:48:37am |
I just heard that woman talking to CNN. How horrific.
1071 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:48:42am |
1072 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:48:45am |
re: #931 opnion
But hey, party with their diplomats at our embassies for the Fourth.
Geez opnion - wonder what would happen if a group of American Students were to "invade" those American embassies, grab up the Iranian diplomats and hold 'em captive for 445 days?!
1073 | SixDegrees Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:49:08am |
re: #970 turn
If it's any consolation, $500 to $600 a month for utility bills is pretty pathetic imo. Must have a very large house, that is one hell of a bill. SMUD has a similar program in Sac, if I had air conditioning I would be on it like you. You are right, they are just balancing the load and it has no serious change in temps but saes you money. I cool and warm my house using radiant floor tubing, very efficient.
Here, we have a similar plan, too. It comes with all sorts of caveats.
First, you pay a cheaper rate for interruptible service - on the compressor only. To make this work, the compressor is placed on a separate meter. The utility company provides the meter, but you have to pay an electrician to install the separate line - which costs a few hundred bucks. Not too horrible if you're installing a new AC unit, but significant if you're retrofitting. And the savings is only on the electricity used to run the compressor - everything else, your lights, stove, fans, television and on and on, gets billed at the same rate it always did.
Once that's in place, the utility "guarantees" that it will never interrupt your compressor service for more than, say, 20 minutes at a time. When we had this "service," it was interrupted for 20 minutes, came on for five minutes, went off for another 15 minutes, came on for three minutes, went off for 20 minutes...you get the idea. It was never on long enough to cool the house. The following year, the whole 20 minute thing got tossed out the window, and we were without a compressor for hours at a time during the times when we needed it most - the hottest, most humid days of the summer. So what we wound up with was no air conditioning at all, in return for a "savings" of about 3% of our total electric bill , despite losing our AC for about 80% of the time it was most sorely needed.
Swell.
1075 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:49:26am |
1076 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:49:26am |
1077 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:49:29am |
U.S. Drone Strike Said to Kill 60 in Pakistan
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An airstrike believed to have been carried out by a United States drone killed at least 60 people at a funeral for a Taliban fighter in South Waziristan on Tuesday, residents of the area and local news reports said.
1078 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:49:50am |
re: #1072 realwest
that is a great idea. see how the mullahs like it.
1079 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:49:52am |
re: #1022 Walter L. Newton
HuffPo's coverage has been superior to that of CNN and the other leading media outlets in the US. That's due to a combination of HuffPo getting to twitter and identifying sources faster than the other outlets, and just getting the news out faster.
The Times is playing catchup, but their Lede blog is doing similar work now. CNN's coverage has been spotty, and MSNBC is lagging. FoxNews is adequate- barely.
1080 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:50:44am |
re: #1077 Kenneth
Posted in the spinoffs, but the UAV airstrike killed more than 80 Taliban thugs, but missed Mehsud and two of his top commanders.
It was a big strike, and we just missed the grand slam.
1081 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:50:54am |
Did I mention I have crawling teething twin girls on the prowl now? Time to go. . .:)
G-d Bless the brave men and women of Iran- G-d judge those who wait and watch. . .and do nothing
1082 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:51:35am |
re: #996 karmic_inquisitor
Wonder what the Huffpo coverage will look like on 4th of July when Obama places hot dogs in clenched fists of the Mullahs at the White House cook out?
Just to be clear:
No Mullahs
No White House cook out.
I don't know how many embassy cook outs around the world will be covered, but I'm sure some will be. Lot's of time between now and the 4th to decide what goes on.
1083 | DisturbedEma Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:51:50am |
re: #1067 taxfreekiller
re: #1039 formercorpsman
Obama and Ms Clinton have invited representatives of Iran to the July 4th picnic and BBQ on the White House lawn, and Gibbs has stated that Pres. Obama has said there is no reason not to have them there on the 4th.
spit
One last thing. . .these chickens will COME HOME TO ROOST. . .
1084 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:51:54am |
re: #1071 DisturbedEma
Pardon me but WHAT THE FUCK?
It's the age of 0zero. And appeasement. And apologies.
1085 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:05am |
re: #995 SFGoth
Well yes it was, and thank you for answering. Those photos are cool, love the sepia filter. Maybe one of those people is you. heh, those two women partway down on the first link look just like boy geoge.
1086 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:08am |
1087 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:21am |
1089 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:31am |
re: #1077 Kenneth
heh
This could develop into a snowball effect.
/do we have enough drones to cover 60 more funerals?
1090 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:35am |
Not to brag, but I'm on a protected block ("block 50") in S.F. which means no rotating power outages when those occur. Doesn't stop negligent power outages....
1091 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:46am |
re: #1040 Mr. Sandman
here is a perfect example of the myth of left-wing bias in the media
Hat tip to Charles.
NOT SAFE FOR EPILEPTICS.
1092 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:52:53am |
NO FUCKING COOKOUTS WITH TERRORISTS!.
This will come back to bite obambi on the ass!
1093 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:53:01am |
re: #1036 Killgore Trout
They are in a very dangerous position.
If the Basiji are using radio triangulation, then perhaps its time to target their detection systems. We could use F-22s and HARM missiles. We could badly damage the regime's C3 capabilities without being directly seen.
1094 | whiterasta Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:53:07am |
re: #1073 SixDegrees
Beware of the State and their money saving programs. It's usually some BS pie in the sky scheme cooked up by Greenpeace.
1095 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:53:28am |
re: #995 SFGoth
oh, and yes I was very suprised to learn many conservatives are into goth too.
1096 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:53:29am |
1097 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:53:46am |
1098 | saylorfam Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:54:08am |
re: #947 yma o hyd
Imagine if we hadn't meddled in the elections occuring in the South during the early 60's when Bull Connor was out with the Fire hoses spraying those looking for civil rights. Did our wonderful President give pause to consider what the out come might have been?
1099 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:54:10am |
re: #1055 WinterCat
Then you weren't listening to the same media I listened to. Yes, Palin had her detractors on the conservative side. But please tell me you aren't trying to say that the criticism was equal from the right and the left.
Palin and Clinton both suffered from misogyny and sexism. Both of them received attacks anchored in that, and in each case those attacks were unfair.
Both also received genuine criticisms, but I think each of them received misogynistic and unfair attacks. Each of them received a special kind of attack purely because each was female.
1100 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:54:32am |
re: #1086 Mad Al-Jaffee
I kick arse for the lord!
"Vee dont schell schedatives! Vee have trahnquilischers."
1102 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:54:53am |
I'm gonna brag. My electric bill runs about 70 bucks a month in the summer and less than 100 in the winter. Then again, I live in eastern WA and Douglas county has some of the cheapest electricity in the country.
1103 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:03am |
re: #1089 pre-Boomer Marine brat
heh
This could develop into a snowball effect./do we have enough drones to cover 60
more funeralsJuly 4th Cookouts?
1104 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:06am |
re: #1061 laZardo
And communism reigned supreme for another 53 years after that.
Shame.
I doubt it would have if Al Gore had invented the Internet back then.
1107 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:31am |
re: #940 SFGoth
That's pretty funny! I remember when the MSM said the same thing after RWR won re-election too - only about the Dems' wandering their desert.
The Democrats OWN the US Government, WH, House and Senate lock, stock and barrel - won't matter who the R's pick frankly, people will - as always in our history except in times of Declared War, vote with their pocketbooks.
And that won't be for the Democrats. Hell Pelosi, Boxer, Waxman and Feinstien are already in trouble in California after Obama refused to bail out California. Folks been asking out that way "what about our "powerful" leaders in Congress, why couldn't they get Obama to help us out?"
1108 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:38am |
re: #1093 Dark_Falcon
If the Basiji are using radio triangulation, then perhaps its time to target their detection systems. We could use F-22s and HARM missiles. We could badly damage the regime's C3 capabilities without being directly seen.
Do you know who's our CinC and would have to give such an order? ;)
1109 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:42am |
Could people in Washington DC please go to the White House on the 4th of July and hold up posters of Neda so Obama & his Iranian guests can have something to think about while they eat their fucking hot dogs?
1110 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:44am |
re: #1092 pingjockey
NO FUCKING COOKOUTS WITH TERRORISTS!.
This will come back to bite obambi on the ass!
They should go camping with them, Kum bay ya moment. Fucking assholes (and I'm talking about our guys as well).
1111 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:47am |
1112 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:55:54am |
re: #1038 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Nope, Biden bought the pork hot dogs. SEETHING!
Biden just gets a little mixed up.
1113 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:56:03am |
Mandy & Emma
According to wiki, NOW has a whopping 500,000 members.
I'm very impressed.
1114 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:56:16am |
re: #1080 lawhawk
Posted in the spinoffs, but the UAV airstrike killed more than 80 Taliban thugs, but missed Mehsud and two of his top commanders.
It was a big strike, and we just missed the grand slam.
I always love a heart warming human interest story!
1115 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:56:29am |
re: #1093 Dark_Falcon
I don't think something as blatant as a missile strike would be helpful. We might be able to jam certain frequencies though.
1116 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:57:02am |
Try this little experiement if you want to test out both media bias and the relative amounts of mysogeny on the right and left...
Google or Bing news results for Michelle Obama then Sarah Palin and see what you get.
For even more intersting results do the same for their kids.
I have not tried this but I bet I can guess the results.
1117 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:57:08am |
re: #1087 Creeping Eruption
The age of Orzo?
Age of the Zero. Or as Mandy calls him: FCBBHO for Fucking Commie Bastard Barack Hussein Obama. And on that note Mandy, I'd like to join Ema and ask for your catchphrase.
1119 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:57:38am |
re: #1109 Kenneth
I would but I have a gig that afternoon. Maybe I'll go that Saturday if there's a protest.
1120 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:57:44am |
re: #1110 VegasRick
Yep. This whole business in Iran shoudl've been a huge wake up call to obambi that you can't talk to these people. But no, we're gonna do it anyway. Feckless fools.
1121 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:57:51am |
re: #1085 turn
Well yes it was, and thank you for answering. Those photos are cool, love the sepia filter. Maybe one of those people is you. heh, those two women partway down on the first link look just like boy geoge.
Sorry for the sarcasm. The filter is kind of cool but the costumes are "gorgeous" in color. (I have to be careful about using that word as I'm a guy, ;->) I am in one photo in each link but I won't say which one. Let me just add that undressing at the end of a ball or outing is half the fun. (Ahem) BTW, these shots were at the enormous Leipzig, Germany goth festival and the Leipzig opera performance that weekend is free to festival goers (well, about 300 seats are set aside). This year was some weird, modern business-setting thing I fell asleep during but last year was La Traviatta and it was very cool.
1122 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:58:02am |
re: #1109 Kenneth
Could people in
Washington DCfrom all around the United States please go to the White House on the 4th of July and hold up posters of Neda so Obama & his Iranian guests can have something to think about while they eat their fucking hot dogs?
FIFY.
1123 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:58:09am |
'In Baharestan we saw militia with axe choping people like meat - blood everywhere - like butcher
>About 10 special forces vans are manoeuvring in Sharak-e-Gharb
>Lalezar Sq is same as Baharestan
>Militias and plain cloths acts as they will do any thing to suppress ppl gatherings under any under any circumstances,even if they have to kill ppl to do that !
>The military plain clothes have entered the crowd with high speed on bikes, they are beating people with cable and batons, almost everyone in the crowd is injured, there is blood everywhere!'
[Link: shooresh1917.blogspot.com...]
(A blog recommended by our Winston)
1124 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:58:35am |
re: #1111 avanti
I know there are always 3 sides to every story.
Under the circumstances, I get the impression you feel it is probably not a bad thing to at least try dialogue with the power structure in Iran?
1125 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:58:49am |
re: #1072 realwest
Geez opnion - wonder what would happen if a group of American Students were to "invade" those American embassies, grab up the Iranian diplomats and hold 'em captive for 445 days?!
Why the World would just see it as a justified political statement. Ok, maybe not.
1126 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:58:59am |
re: #974 Occasional Reader
Riiight... of course you will.
Now, it's time to take your pills, there's a good boy.
They don't need any pills O.R. - they have Obama as POTUS!
1127 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:59:02am |
re: #1113 Eowyn2
Mandy & Emma
According to wiki, NOW has a whopping 500,000 members.
I'm very impressed.
NOW stands for the National Organisation for Women.
They don't issue pronouncements on Iran, because they are specifically only concerned with events affecting women within the US.
BTW, they did issue a statement condemning letterman.
1129 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:59:29am |
re: #1109 Kenneth
Could people in Washington DC please go to the White House on the 4th of July and hold up posters of Neda so Obama & his Iranian guests can have something to think about while they eat their fucking hot dogs?
The US Embassies around the world are hosting the Iranians - not at the White House. As far as I'm aware, this isn't going to include a White House invite.
Still, your point stands to protest outside US embassies the fact that they're celebrating American freedom and independence while the Iranians subjugate their own people and crushing demonstrators who do not have any of the rights that we in the US take for granted.
1130 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 8:59:35am |
re: #988 Kosh's Shadow
But what about the Giant Rat of Sumatra?
the rodents of unusual size? I do not think they exist.
1131 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:00:25am |
re: #1120 pingjockey
Yep. This whole business in Iran shoudl've been a huge wake up call to obambi that you can't talk to these people. But no, we're gonna do it anyway. Feckless fools.
If McCain had been elected and he responded the same way that zero is, what woukd the MFMSM say?
1132 | CIA Reject Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:00:36am |
re: #1130 Eowyn2
the rodents of unusual size? I do not think they exist.
I take it you've never worked in Washington DC :-)
1134 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:00:59am |
re: #1115 Killgore Trout
I don't think something as blatant as a missile strike would be helpful. We might be able to jam certain frequencies though.
I think blatant is exactly what we need here. Its time to call for military action. The Iranian government has forfeited any right to rule it ever had. We have the air power, its time to use it.
1135 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:00:59am |
re: #1128 pingjockey
Have we heard from Winston lately?
No - his last tweet was 7 hours ago.
I think he's trying to contact his friends in iran, which can be very dangerous, and he's working on his blog.
Also, the poor man must have some sleep ...
1136 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:01:15am |
re: #1129 lawhawk
This is for o'seas embassies? Hmmm.... The protests in front of those could get a little more lively than one here in the US.
Does Iran have a mission in DC? Or only in NY at the UN?
1137 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:01:32am |
re: #993 opnion
I know that my attitude toward BHO is poor, but it seems like he displays a lack of respect for the U.S having these thugs party at our embassies for the 4th.
WHAT? You're only NOW beginning to understand that Obama doesn't respect (much less love) the United States?
/
1138 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:01:59am |
report on today's violence.....
1139 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:02:12am |
re: #1135 yma o hyd
Thank you dear. I know he's very busy. Was concerned.
1140 | The Left Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:02:12am |
re: #1116 DaddyG
Try this little experiement if you want to test out both media bias and the relative amounts of mysogeny on the right and left...
Google or Bing news results for Michelle Obama then Sarah Palin and see what you get.
For even more intersting results do the same for their kids.
I have not tried this but I bet I can guess the results.
Come on! Way to prove your scientific acumen there!
Let's not have this degenerate into posting all the nastiest links we all can find about Sarah or Michelle. Trust me, there's a lot of sludge out there on each and I don't feel like wading in it today.
1141 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:02:44am |
1142 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:02:47am |
re: #1104 MandyManners
I doubt it would have if Al Gore had invented the Internet back then.
Al Gore reference aside, and even though that may be sarc, I'd actually agree.
1143 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:02:52am |
re: #1006 yma o hyd
So sorry {yma} hope we can distract you for a while!
1144 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:03:40am |
re: #1139 pingjockey
Thank you dear. I know he's very busy. Was concerned.
Yes - it must be hard for him, and he seems to be up all night, due to the different time zones.
1145 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:03:41am |
re: #1129 lawhawk
The US Embassies around the world are hosting the Iranians - not at the White House. As far as I'm aware, this isn't going to include a White House invite.
Still, your point stands to protest outside US embassies the fact that they're celebrating American freedom and independence while the Iranians subjugate their own people and crushing demonstrators who do not have any of the rights that we in the US take for granted.
When is this? July 4 is a Saturday, and the US Embassy in Manila is close to my college...so maybe if I have a little free time...
1146 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:04:18am |
re: #1131 VegasRick
Probably having kittens cause McCain wasn't being more forceful or more concilliatory. Who knows with the msm.
1147 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:04:25am |
re: #1143 realwest
So sorry {yma} hope we can distract you for a while!
Thank you, {rw}!
As the trite saying has it, 'life goes on ...'
1148 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:04:34am |
re: #1107 realwest
And guess where the voters will be turning when they fail. It won't be back to the right.
1149 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:05:19am |
Juan Cole's, disgusting moral equivocation reaches a new low:
US politicians are no longer in a position to lecture other countries about their human rights. The kind of unlicensed, city-wide demonstrations being held in Tehran last week would not be allowed to be held in the United States. Senator John McCain led the charge against Obama for not having sufficiently intervened in Iran. At the Republican National Committee convention in St. Paul, 250 protesters were arrested shortly before John McCain took the podium. Most were innocent activists and even journalists. Amy Goodman and her staff were assaulted. In New York in 2004, 'protest zones' were assigned, and 1800 protesters were arrested, who have now been awarded civil damages by the courts. Spontaneous, city-wide demonstrations outside designated 'protest zones' would be illegal in New York City, apparently. In fact, the Republican National Committee has undertaken to pay for the cost of any lawsuits by wronged protesters, which many observers fear will make the police more aggressive, since they will know that their municipal authorities will not have to pay for civil damages.
The number of demonstrators arrested in Tehran on Saturday is estimated at 550 or so, which is less than those arrested by the NYPD for protesting Bush policies in 2004.
I don't recall any US protesters being shot or chopped up with axes as is happening in Iran today.
1150 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:05:47am |
re: #1145 laZardo
You go! Get some buddies and give them a little sign show! You're a student, go do that voodoo that students do so well. Apologies to Harvey Korman.
1153 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:06:31am |
US-Israeli meeting canceled, July 4th with the Mullahs still a go
A meeting between Israel's prime minister and a senior US envoy has been cancelled amid growing differences over settlement building in the West Bank.
Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot said the US put off the meeting in response to Benjamin Netanyahu's refusal to heed US demands to halt settlement activity.
But Mr Netanyahu's aides say it was the prime minister who cancelled Thursday's meeting with George Mitchell in Paris.
They said "more professional work" was needed, without adding further details.
1154 | opnion Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:06:37am |
re: #1137 realwest
WHAT? You're only NOW beginning to understand that Obama doesn't respect (much less love) the United States?
/
Actually right from the jump, I saw Obama as lacking allegiance to this country. I would say that his wife rows the same boat.
BHO by inclination, academic exposure & associations is predisposed against the U.S. He may be able to support his Brave New World vision of America, but not as it is or has been
1156 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:06:55am |
re: #1131 VegasRick
If McCain had been elected and he responded the same way that zero is, what woukd the MFMSM say?
he would never invite representatives of a regime actively butchering its own people to a party. If he was in charge, the bombs would already by falling. And since Mandy hasn't said it, I'll ask her for her permission to say it.
Mandy, may I?
1157 | Johnnyreb Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:07:27am |
re: #1107 realwest
That's pretty funny! I remember when the MSM said the same thing after RWR won re-election too - only about the Dems' wandering their desert.
The Democrats OWN the US Government, WH, House and Senate lock, stock and barrel - won't matter who the R's pick frankly, people will - as always in our history except in times of Declared War, vote with their pocketbooks.
And that won't be for the Democrats. Hell Pelosi, Boxer, Waxman and Feinstien are already in trouble in California after Obama refused to bail out California. Folks been asking out that way "what about our "powerful" leaders in Congress, why couldn't they get Obama to help us out?"
Oh and don't forget Dodd here in CT. He is not getting any donations for his run from anyone actually in CT. He is toast here and he knows it. I suspect that is one big reason they are trying to ram Obamacare down our throats fast.
1158 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:07:32am |
re: #1149 Kenneth
That is so sickening!
But yeah, the USA under Bush was just like Iran is today under Khamenei and Ahmadinejad, sure ...
1159 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:08:16am |
re: #1149 Kenneth
Juan Cole's, disgusting moral equivocation reaches a new low:
I don't recall any US protesters being shot or chopped up with axes as is happening in Iran today.
Obviously you missed the violence inherent in the system.
1160 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:08:32am |
Very cool, got you all here, Rush on the radio, and fresh coffee! Yaaay.
1161 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:00am |
re: #1152 Kenneth
link to Cole [Link: www.juancole.com...]
The essence of treason, though certainly not prosecutable as such.
1162 | jorline Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:04am |
Sorry for the drive by.
The map changes again.
North Korea Threatens to 'Wipe Out' U.S.
SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.
What the deal with these little dictators with big erasers?
1163 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:07am |
re: #1153 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
US-Israeli meeting canceled, July 4th with the Mullahs still a go
Save this news, lizards - it shows that the Obama administration has no morals at all!
1164 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:14am |
re: #1150 pingjockey
Dunno about "other students" though, most of them are the "hipster rebel" types, too caught up in the 'trends.' Doubt most of them would know about this sort of thing.
Ironically, I said "after college" on a Saturday because I have community service briefings then.
1165 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:16am |
re: #1153 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
US-Israeli meeting canceled, July 4th with the Mullahs still a go
Just fucking great.
1166 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:39am |
re: #1159 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
That's 3
Reference to Princess Bride
Blazing Saddles
Monty Python
1167 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:09:49am |
re: #1152 Kenneth
link to Cole [Link: www.juancole.com...]
Juan Cole is a pro-tyrant tool. He did make clear that the election in Iran was stolen, but now his hatred of conservatives and America has gotten the better of him. What an assclown.
1168 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:10:05am |
1170 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:10:10am |
re: #1162 jorline
Lil Kim's successor apparently doesn't want to succeed him, it seems.
/in the meantime, check my #1042.
1172 | Kronocide Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:10:40am |
re: #1149 Kenneth
Juan Cole is a craven idiot. That is outrageous. I wonder how many of those leftist protesters deserved to be arrested since they were'nt protesting as opposed to agitating or provocating, which happens a lot. Not to mention, they are usually released after a few hours.
This is the most specious of comparisons.
I read SFGate regularly (connects me to home) and I'm shocked by the amount of comments that compare what's happening in Iran to US elections and the GOP. It's insanity and these people probably vote.
1173 | Johnnyreb Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:10:44am |
re: #1160 pingjockey
Very cool, got you all here, Rush on the radio, and fresh coffee! Yaaay.
Help! I am being repressed!
1174 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:10:44am |
re: #1073 SixDegrees
Whoa, that's a f$%%^^& up program. SMUD puts a radio controlled relay on the input to the AC and cycles that as needed. My neighbors are on the program and they have never complaind about the AC being out for long periods of time. it aint worth keeping your program for a 3% savings for sure, not to mention the up front cost of the meter. Better switch to spy now and risk whiplash
1175 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:11:03am |
re: #1166 pingjockey
That's 3
Reference to Princess Bride
Blazing Saddles
Monty Python
4, Dead/Alive as well
1176 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:11:10am |
re: #1168 Creeping Eruption
Heh. Lizards never cease to amaze me with the stuff we know.
1177 | Eowyn2 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:11:25am |
re: #1132 CIA Reject
I take it you've never worked in Washington DC :-)
I rejected the CIA offer. pittance pay for working in dc. but damn their recruiter was Niiiiiiice.
1179 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:11:59am |
re: #1170 laZardo
Lil Kim's successor apparently doesn't want to succeed him, it seems.
.
Giving up on the rap world already?. She had such potential . . /
1180 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:12:07am |
re: #1140 iceweasel
Come on! Way to prove your scientific acumen there!
Let's not have this degenerate into posting all the nastiest links we all can find about Sarah or Michelle. Trust me, there's a lot of sludge out there on each and I don't feel like wading in it today.
I wouldn't cast dispersions on my "scientific acumen" while you are churning up a heapin helpin of logical fallacies.
I never suggested digging up nasty links. Just do an identical search on both names and see what comes up under news results.
That should reveal a lot about your supposition.
1181 | CIA Reject Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:12:12am |
re: #1177 Eowyn2
I rejected the CIA offer. pittance pay for working in dc. but damn their recruiter was Niiiiiiice.
Very smart - on both counts!
1182 | VegasRick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:12:14am |
re: #1162 jorline
Sorry for the drive by.
The map changes again.
North Korea Threatens to 'Wipe Out' U.S.
What the deal with these little dictators with big erasers?
little dictators
1183 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:12:19am |
re: #1129 lawhawk
You are correct, it was a cable sent to US embassies around the world two weeks before the Irainian "election" It's far from the Mullah's sharing a beer and a hot dog with the POTUS at the White House. Chances are, even that embassy out reach may well be retracted. It simply told them they could invite the local Iranian diplomats. Here's a comment from a few weeks back.
"Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, said social contacts between low-level officials of the two nations could prove an effective way to reintroduce the two governments after 30 years of frosty relations.
He doubted Iranian officials would be eager to attend American Independence Day celebrations, but said the US move could eventually see Iranians and Americans mingling at third-party events like Brazilian and Japanese national celebrations.
"I doubt you will find Iranian diplomats attending forth of July celebrations and munching on halal hot dogs," he said."
1185 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:12:56am |
1186 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:13:34am |
re: #1171 pingjockey
Yeah. Posted a number of times that community service is mandatory within my college system.
Still thinking of going though.
1188 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:14:46am |
We'll Be Watching You
(with apologies to The Police)
Every life they take
Every orphan they make
Every bone they break
Every prayer they fake
We'll be watching you
Every nuke they want to build
Every drop of blood they spilled
Every centrifuge
Every dhimmi stooge
We'll be watching you
O can't you see
What those protests mean?
So get off your duff,
Is that plain enough?
Every life they take
Every orphan they make
Every bone they break
Every prayer they fake
We'll be watching you
1189 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:14:49am |
re: #1186 laZardo
You do what you've got to do. Soe of the high schools here in WA state have added a comm. svc. requirement to graduate.
1190 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:14:49am |
re: #1187 Eowyn2
I best get some work done.
/ Funny, that is what my boss keeps telling me. I wish he would just leave me alone to do my thing.
1191 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:15:20am |
re: #1148 laZardo
And guess where the voters will be turning when they fail. It won't be back to the right.
You don't seriously think they'll turn more to the Left? Or even moderately Left?
These are VOTERS we're talking about here, not the most politically informed people in America. They'll vote AGAINST the Dems if our ecomomic mess hasn't been cleaned up - cause ONLY THE DEMS could clean it up now, since they control the entire US Government and blaming Bush won't last for more than another 6 months or so.
1193 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:15:56am |
1194 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:16:20am |
re: #1192 buzzsawmonkey
IMO, most of this bunch here could kick ass on Jeopardy.
1195 | Johnnyreb Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:16:38am |
re: #1189 pingjockey
You do what you've got to do. Soe of the high schools here in WA state have added a comm. svc. requirement to graduate.
I don't get that part. Some schools even go so far as to say it is mandatory volunteer service. They don't even think of how stupid that actually sounds.
1196 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:25am |
Well . . .this tells me all I need to know about obamas foreign policy:
Assad: Israeli partner willing to commit to peace doesn't exist
Peace demands an Israeli partner and a commitment to international law, UN resolutions, and the principle of land for peace," Assad said during a press conference in Greece. "An Israeli partner currently does not exist."
Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama has decided to reinstate a US ambassador to Syria after an absence of more than four years.
1197 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:26am |
re: #1192 buzzsawmonkey
randomly catalogued obscure film knowledge, as yet unexploited.
Fixed that for you.
So that makes me the Remington Steele of LGF.
/I also do obscure TV knowledge
1198 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:28am |
re: #1193 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I have sympathy...for the rooster!
1199 | laZardo Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:35am |
re: #1191 realwest
Of course. Anyone but the Dems, and they've already "learned their lesson" with the Republicans, especially with the shape the GOP's in now.
1200 | midwestgak Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:48am |
re: #1166 pingjockey
That's 3
Reference to Princess Bride
Blazing Saddles
Monty Python
Buttercup: You mock my pain.
Man in Black: Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
1201 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:51am |
re: #1157 Johnnyreb
Yeah and with Teddy's illness, Dodd is "ramrodding" the health care bill in his place.
Boy I bet Dodd wishes he'd gone with Stanford wherever the hell Stanford went! LOL!
1203 | debutaunt Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:17:59am |
re: #1194 pingjockey
IMO, most of this bunch here could kick ass on Jeopardy.
Is whispering allowed, Alex?
1204 | CIA Reject Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:18:07am |
re: #1194 pingjockey
IMO, most of this bunch here could kick ass on Jeopardy.
LOL!: "I'll take Gramscian Whores for $1000 please Alex!"
1205 | Kronocide Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:18:16am |
re: #1152 Kenneth
link to Cole [Link: www.juancole.com...]
Argh.... Juan Cole is either a liar or an idiot. He's created his own reality.
1206 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:18:23am |
re: #1121 SFGoth
Let me just add that undressing at the end of a ball or outing is half the fun. (Ahem)
Now you have my attention, ha. My parents used to belong to the horseless carraige club and would get decked out in vintage garb and tool up to Tahoe in my dads antique cars. Have fun!
1207 | Kragar Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:18:49am |
re: #1205 BigPapa
Argh.... Juan Cole is either a liar or an idiot. He's created his own reality.
I'll cut him a deal. He can be a liar and an idiot.
1208 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:19:02am |
re: #1193 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Satellite imaging of Gaza showing the effects of the Israeli offensive
Oh the CARNAGE!
///
Typical Beeb fence-sitting in the legend to the map!
'Buildings likely to be damaged' - 'Buildings likely to be destroyed' - oh dear!
1209 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:19:38am |
re: #1204 CIA Reject
LOL!: "I'll take Gramscian Whores for $1000 please Alex!"
"He planted bombs in the 90's and help launch Barack Obama's political career in the 90's."
1211 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:20:00am |
re: #1205 BigPapa
Argh.... Juan Cole is either a liar or an idiot. He's created his own reality.
He's both.
1212 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:20:20am |
re: #1169 buzzsawmonkey
Yup, it's sorta amazing that Mr. Cole ignores the fact that every 4 or 8 years, we have a turnover of power in this country that is entirely peaceful. Wonder how he missed that?
/
1214 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:20:40am |
re: #1196 Creeping Eruption
Well . . .this tells me all I need to know about obamas foreign policy:
Assad: Israeli partner willing to commit to
peacesuicide doesn't exist
FTFY
1215 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:21:00am |
re: #1210 buzzsawmonkey
Haven't heard of that one. I will.
1216 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:21:01am |
re: #1210 buzzsawmonkey
Probably. I've noticed, however, that in recent years there has been a large increase in the amount of contempo pop drivel of the Brangelina variety, which would certainly knock me out of the running.
BTW, if you've never seen the Ronald Colman/Vincent Price quiz show film comedy "Champagne for Caesar," you might want to look it up.
Whats a brangelina?
1217 | CIA Reject Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:21:01am |
1218 | yma o hyd Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:21:08am |
re: #1196 Creeping Eruption
Well . . .this tells me all I need to know about obamas foreign policy:
Assad: Israeli partner willing to commit to peace doesn't exist
Heh.
Has, for the Palis, for Syria and all others, an 'Israeli partner for peace' ever existed?
Will there ever exist one?
We know the answer ... no, never!
1219 | doppelganglander Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:21:25am |
re: #995 SFGoth
Ummm, is that a serious question?
[Link: www.viona-art.com...]
[Link: www.viona-art.com...]
I really, really want to go to this ball in Belgium next month, but don't have the time: [Link: www.viona-art.com...]
You'd be surprised how many more non-lib goths there are than you'd think.
Neat pictures. I enjoyed our discussion of goth clothing and costumes last night. The teenage goth thing became popular just a few years after I graduated. I think I would have been into it had I been a few years younger, but by the time it was happening I was fairly well-adjusted. ;)
1222 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:21:48am |
re: #1195 Johnnyreb
I don't get that part. Some schools even go so far as to say it is mandatory volunteer service. They don't even think of how stupid that actually sounds.
I asked an advisor at my sons HS if he could count the hundreds of hours of service time he donated to the community through Boy Scout and Church service projects towards his graduation requirement. I got blank stares.
1223 | Kenneth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:22:00am |
latest report from Iran:
...the state-run TV is broadcasting pictures of people who have been participating in the protests and asking viewers to give information on them. They have also apparently taken pictures in the demonstrations, matched them with the national ID card database and are now rounding people up in the dead of night.
1224 | Johnnyreb Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:22:32am |
re: #1201 realwest
Yeah and with Teddy's illness, Dodd is "ramrodding" the health care bill in his place.
Boy I bet Dodd wishes he'd gone with Stanford wherever the hell Stanford went! LOL!
He knows he is done in this state. His downfall started when he "moved" to Iowa so he could start his run for President there. Add that to the crap with Countrywide, his million dollar cottage in Ireland and he is toast in CT. I have never seen so many LLL papers turn on a politician so fast as I have in the last year or so as they have done on Dodd.
1225 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:22:48am |
re: #1219 doppelganglander
I love that South Park episode where Stan joins the goth kids. It's one of my favorite episodes.
1227 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:22:54am |
re: #1222 DaddyG
What? If that isn't community service I don't know what is?
1228 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:23:29am |
re: #1216 Creeping Eruption
Whats a brangelina?
A rare mathematical theorem where the combination of two living organisms add up to less than the whole.
1229 | CIA Reject Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:23:30am |
re: #1222 DaddyG
I asked an advisor at my sons HS if he could count the hundreds of hours of service time he donated to the community through Boy Scout and Church service projects towards his graduation requirement. I got blank stares.
Heh - guess it has to be politically correct volunteer service, like signing up imaginary people to vote...
1230 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:23:41am |
re: #1226 buzzsawmonkey
Sort of like a pluot...
Not really. It was the tabloid combination of the names of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, some months/years back.
Thanks. I need to pay more attention to pop crap I guess . . .or not.
1231 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:24:10am |
re: #1206 turn
Let me just add that undressing at the end of a ball or outing is half the fun. (Ahem)
Now you have my attention, ha. My parents used to belong to the horseless carraige club and would get decked out in vintage garb and tool up to Tahoe in my dads antique cars. Have fun!
Whether I have your attention depends on whether you are male or female. No offense, but....
1232 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:24:28am |
re: #1204 CIA Reject
I'll take "The Rapists" for 200.
1233 | lawhawk Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:24:45am |
re: #1193 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Satellite imaging of Gaza showing the effects of the Israeli offensive
Oh the CARNAGE!
///
I'm supposed to care that buildings were damaged or destroyed because Israel fought back against Hamas? Where's the map showing the thousands of landing points for Hamas rockets and mortars fired by the terrorists in the hopes of murdering Israelis (and which ended up killing Palestinians in misfires).
Hamas brought this on Gaza by engaging in war against Israel, but the damage is Israel's fault?
Moral equivalence on parade. Again. But for the BBC, this is SOP.
1234 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:24:57am |
re: #1231 SFGoth
Whether I have your attention depends on whether you are male or female. No offense, but....
Feedback loop when addressing trannies?
1238 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:26:00am |
re: #1226 buzzsawmonkey
The more this happens in the media, the more I'm convinced that the movie Idiocracy is a documentary.
1239 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:26:41am |
re: #1236 kansas
Not if the sampling group gets their news from the msm.
1242 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:27:01am |
re: #1227 pingjockey
What? If that isn't community service I don't know what is?
They didn't get to pre-approve the projects.
1243 | CIA Reject Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:27:12am |
re: #1232 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'll take "The Rapists" for 200.
His wife prepared articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon in 1972.
1244 | njdhockeyfan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:27:22am |
Phone call to CNN from a woman in Tehran.
I hope O and his Iranian friends choke on their hot dogs.
1247 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:28:33am |
re: #1220 buzzsawmonkey
He is too busy checking his pelt for fleas.
Maybe we should shave his pelt to make it easier for him to find the fleas?!?
/a little.
1248 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:28:38am |
re: #1244 njdhockeyfan
Thanks for posting the video but your commentary is uncool.
1250 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:28:59am |
re: #1240 buzzsawmonkey
I am more and more convinced that to vote you should have to take that civics test that was posted on here a couple of times.
Yes, I know we're not supposed to have things like that, but voting is a responsibility. Not a right. You can have your voting priveledges revoked for a felony.
1251 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:28:59am |
re: #1236 kansas
Obama approval up again. This is nuts.
Not a surprise to see a 3-5 point bump during a international crisis. Americans tend to rally around the POTUS in troubled times, does not mean much otherwise.
1253 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:29:15am |
re: #1243 CIA Reject
His wife prepared articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon in 1972.
Who is Bill Clinton?
1254 | MandyManners Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:29:21am |
re: #1205 BigPapa
Argh.... Juan Cole is either a liar or an idiot. He's created his own reality.
He's a lying idiot.
1255 | doppelganglander Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:29:33am |
re: #1225 Mad Al-Jaffee
I love that South Park episode where Stan joins the goth kids. It's one of my favorite episodes.
Mine too!
1257 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:29:41am |
I'm dragging a dead hamster here... Charles? lunch thread!
1258 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:29:49am |
re: #1193 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Satellite imaging of Gaza showing the effects of the Israeli offensive
Oh the CARNAGE!
///
Heh
And in the "Palestinian rocket attacks against Israel" map, there are only six (SIX) symbols.
/the essence of proper presentation of propaganda
1259 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:30:06am |
re: #1254 MandyManners
He's a lying idiot.
No secret about that. He's been that way for a very long time.
1260 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:30:09am |
re: #1255 doppelganglander
"Hi cutie, welcome to Raisins!"
1261 | pingjockey Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:30:24am |
re: #1258 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Dr, Goebbels would be proud.
1262 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:30:26am |
re: #1257 DaddyG
I'm dragging a dead hamster here... Charles? lunch thread!
Ask and you shall receive. (How Obama-esque)
1263 | njdhockeyfan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:30:32am |
re: #1248 Killgore Trout
Thanks for posting the video but your commentary is uncool.
I didn't say die. I'm sorry, I'm just pissed.
1265 | Pvt Bin Jammin Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:31:00am |
OMG check out this tweet:
: in Baharestan we saw militia with axe choping ppl like meat - blood everywhere - like butcher - Allah Akbar - #Iranelection #gr88 RT RT RT
1266 | realwest Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:31:18am |
1268 | avanti Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:32:32am |
re: #1244 njdhockeyfan
When hot doggate does not happen , some will say it was because of pressure from the right.
1269 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:32:36am |
re: #1234 Creeping Eruption
Feedback loop when addressing trannies?
Too soon after breakfast, too soon!
(I really should be working on my brief protecting the rights of property owners who invoke the Ellis Act - CA Gov't Code sec. 7060, but LGF is more fun.)
1271 | Flyers1974 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:33:42am |
re: #1180 DaddyG
Comparing coverage as to a first lady vs. VP candidate (and a VP candidate who is thought of by many to be a leading contender in 2012 at that) is apples and oranges. M. Obama make the "proud" speech, but apparently learned her lesson and I'd guess has been told to STFU, or was smart enough to keep quiet on her own. Palin joined the big leagues, not as a spouse, but in her own right. Few would dispute the degree to which Palin has excited the GOP base. No reason to believe M. Obama's impact or future impact on the Democratic Party will amount to hill of beans. Palin could be the GOP nominee.
1272 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:33:48am |
1273 | truth stick Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:33:58am |
re: #1189 pingjockey
You do what you've got to do. Some of the high schools here in WA state have added a comm. svc. requirement to graduate.
I had to fullfil 8 hours of "community service" for my Gov't class back in the 90's to graduate. Luckily there was an election during my semester so I spent my 8 hours with the local Republican Party celebrating the 94 mid-term elections.
1274 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:34:23am |
re: #1266 realwest
Oh, not much my friend. It is my rhetorical microphone.
Somebody, please, anybody..
1275 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:35:30am |
re: #1269 SFGoth
And I on illegal tie-in's in banking relationships, but alas, you are correct . . . LGF is too much fun.
1277 | jorline Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:36:09am |
re: #1170 laZardo
Lil Kim's successor apparently doesn't want to succeed him, it seems.
/in the meantime, check my #1042.
Obama needs to send a clear message to Lit Kim and all the other sawed-off dics. I don't care if Lit Kim fires a bottle rocket, it must be taken down.
PBO, you're getting dissed daily on the international stage...¿comprendes?
1278 | SixDegrees Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:41:57am |
re: #1109 Kenneth
Could people in Washington DC please go to the White House on the 4th of July and hold up posters of Neda so Obama & his Iranian guests can have something to think about while they eat their fucking hot dogs?
I can understand the whole picnic thing. Diplomatic events of this sort are planned months in advance, and develop a momentum of their own. Initially, the idea of inviting a bunch of representatives of a theo-thugocracy to participate in our national celebration of the founding of the world's finest example of democracy and personal freedom had a lot of appeal to it.
The recent turn of events in Iran, however, argues strongly for a loud, definitive diplomatic snub. Preferably with as little advance notice as possible, in order to scotch the Iranian diplomatic team's schedule to the greatest extent possible. I am not holding my breath, but I am hoping for a dis-invitation to be announced next week, along with a statement pointing out the gross hypocrisy of touting oneself as a "Democratic" nation while turning the police and military loose against one's own citizenry in response to protests that have been largely peaceful.
Have someone stop by a 7-11 on the way over to the embassy and pick up a bag of chips to drop off as consolation.
1279 | subsailor68 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:42:45am |
re: #1266 realwest
Morning RW! Hope you're feeling well today.
Took your advice on giving up on Windstream (went to bed, even though I really needed the info in that e-mail). Got up this morning and - sure enough - e-mail was back up.
I did contact them, as suggested, and told a nice young man that it might be nice to have a message saying that the office/support was closed, and give the hours of operation. Explained that I sat on hold because the message said folks were helping other customers. He said he'd check on it.
Sure.
1280 | DaddyG Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:43:27am |
re: #1271 Flyers1974 Speaking of mysoginistic statements. Not like a first lady could ever be a serious candidate for political office huh?
1281 | turn Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:43:31am |
re: #1234 Creeping Eruption
Feedback loop when addressing trannies?
dang, the things you learn here. I wonder how the hell did they end up with that name ...
1282 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:44:24am |
re: #871 Noam Sayin'
The mullahs have figured out that Ahmadinejad will liquidate them if he prevails. The gloves are coming off.
1283 | SixDegrees Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:46:09am |
re: #1174 turn
Whoa, that's a f$%%^^& up program. SMUD puts a radio controlled relay on the input to the AC and cycles that as needed. My neighbors are on the program and they have never complaind about the AC being out for long periods of time. it aint worth keeping your program for a 3% savings for sure, not to mention the up front cost of the meter. Better switch to spy now and risk whiplash
This happened at our last house. Our current one has a single, uninterruptible connection as a result of that experience, and I will never again consider the alternative.
1284 | jvic Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:47:34am |
re: #1157 Johnnyreb
Oh and don't forget Dodd here in CT. He is not getting any donations for his run from anyone actually in CT. He is toast here and he knows it. I suspect that is one big reason they are trying to ram Obamacare down our throats fast.
Speaking of ramming stuff down our throat:
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank scoffed Wednesday at assertions that a new consumer protection agency would morph into "some out of control entity.""There is no pattern of overregulation I can see in the consumer area, and I don't see one here," Frank, D-Mass., said at a hearing on the Obama administration's proposals to overhaul financial industry regulation in the wake of high-risk practices that led to the deep recession now under way.
Frank has a history of vision problems:
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''
...
Barney Frank: I don’t see anything in this report that raises safety and soundness problems.
The consumer-finance industry does need a good swift kick where it will do the most good. Unfortunately, I fear that the left's cure will be worse than the disease, at least as far as those who use credit responsibly are concerned.
1285 | Flyers1974 Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:49:49am |
re: #1280 DaddyG
Speaking of mysoginistic statements. Not like a first lady could ever be a serious candidate for political office huh?
Not sure what you're getting at with this one, I'll simply add that, until M. Obama, or some credible source states she is considering such a move, there is no reason to anticipate that move.
1286 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:49:53am |
re: #1281 turn
dang, the things you learn here. I wonder how the hell did they end up with that name ...
Heh. Beats me. I only post here.
1289 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:52:50am |
re: #1281 turn
dang, the things you learn here. I wonder how the hell did they end up with that name ...
Tranny can either reference transsexuals or transvestites. If you live in S.F. long enough, you acquire transdar just to be on the safe side.
1290 | SFGoth Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:56:00am |
Oh, btw, if you see men in dresses (usually red, but occasionally other colors, and usually ugly) running around in packs yelling "are you?" and "On On!", the vast majority of them are straight (and not trannies). They are just average blokes searching for beer. The stuff you learn here.
1291 | quickjustice Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:57:36am |
re: #1248 Killgore Trout
I agree with his commentary. And the emergency room can determine whether the Iranian diplomats live or die.
1292 | formercorpsman Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:58:31am |
re: #1287 Flyers1974
Likewise Flyers. Sorry for the delay, I stepped away from the desk for a little while.
1293 | njdhockeyfan Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:59:47am |
re: #1284 jvic
Barney will be on O'Reilly tonite.
1294 | Spockista Wed, Jun 24, 2009 11:36:02am |
Note to Charles: Our video guy says it's okay to give you the Robert Spencer at AMU speaking to Youth for Western Civilization video back on March 27th.
It's like 1 hour of raw footage and not really Youtube worthy.
But, Spencer does talk about being there because he was booked by Morton Blackwell and his "Leadership Institute". In fact Spencer claims he didn't even know it was a YWC event and says he and never even heard of them, he claims he was there for LI.
If you want to e-mail me feel free and we can get this to you some how if you are interested.
Also, YWC lost their faculty sponsor at UNC and if they cannot find a new one in a month they lose their UNC group. YAY!