The Intelligent Design movement starts with the recognition that “In the beginning was the Word,” and “In the beginning God created.” Establishing that point isn’t enough, but it is absolutely essential to the rest of the gospel message.
— Phillip E. Johnson, founder of “intelligent design”
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alexa kim Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:24:16pm |
In the Louisiana Reaps What It Sows Thread, in my last comment I say I can buy evolution and intelligent design without feeling disloyal to either. When I used the phrase "intelligent design" it was in the generic, not specific to the movement.
Sorry, but neither evolution nor divine creation offends me. They just don't.
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Afrocity Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:27:56pm |
My bed is calling me, just did laundry it is all downy fresh!
Good night
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Gus Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:28:12pm |
My question has always been why can't believers just see evolution as Gods work.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:28:19pm |
re: #4 x-wing
I do unfortuneately I have given up drinking. Why oh why did Obama have to win and provide me an excuse to start again.
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Erik The Red Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:28:30pm |
re: #4 x-wing
Whoo-hoo, SNDT. Who needs a beer ;>}
Morning/Evening Night Lizards. I'll take one for later this afternoon only 0930 here. What brand? Thanks
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winston06 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:29:34pm |
the main page s here
[Link: www.zooborns.com...]
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Rustler Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:32:01pm |
re: #6 Gus 802
Because evolution being true means their is no god in their eyes for some reason. Just like the rabidly anti religion nuts on the Evolution side try to imply that a believer who believes in evolution doesn't really believe in god. Its the extremeists on both sides who are causing and pouring gas on the flames of this debate. Neither of the 2 extreme ends is able to accept that Religion and Evolution are not exclusionary. 1 can believe in a creator without discounting evolution.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:32:30pm |
Night Afrocity. Nothing like sleeping in clean sheets.
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gmsc Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:33:09pm |
re: #11 winston06
the main page s here
[Link: www.zooborns.com...]
Some sites I don't visit because they don't click with me, or because I find them offensive.
Zooborns is the first one I've avoided for overloading my cute-o-meter regaularly.
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x-wing Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:33:43pm |
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:34:53pm |
re: #11 winston06
Do you know about Cute Overload?
Not so cute the last few days. Check the archives.
How about F*ck You Penguin.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:34:57pm |
re: #18 x-wing
He hasn't quite knocked be back off the wagon yet. :P
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orson Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:35:13pm |
I believe God created man in his image. I don't believe he created a being he hoped one day would become human. But I sure don't feel threatened by those who don't believe what I do.
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Gus Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:26pm |
re: #12 Rustler
I would think a theist would as well. The teachings have been revised over thousands of years and accepted. An easy example would be from the Old Testament to the New Testament. This could simply considered a revision of sorts to the liturgical side.
Now, I'm not a believer but I also believe it's acceptable and rational to be a believer. I never felt comfortable with anti-Theism.
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gmsc Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:47pm |
Here's some classic poetry that I strongly believe will help me keep going through the 0bama years:
If, by Rudyard Kipling:
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winston06 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:39:38pm |
re: #19 HelloDare
hey, I like the pics on F U Penguin but I dont appreciate the commentary there. Maybe I don't get it but it is not that funny
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SummerSong Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:41:41pm |
re: #19 HelloDare
Do you know about Cute Overload?
Not so cute the last few days. Check the archives.
How about F*ck You Penguin.
Where they tell animals what's what? LOL That guy cracks me up.
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x-wing Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:41:49pm |
re: #12 Rustler
I rarly post on evolution threads,because I feel you can spiritully believe in a Higher Power and Evoltion with out being conflicted.
Here's how I do it.
I look at Heather Locklear and I know there is a God.
Then I look at Rosie O'Donnell and see some people are taking there good old time on there Evolutional Journey.
/that is all.
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Gus Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:43:04pm |
Isn't there a survival component built into having a baby face? I say that because it came to mind seeing the cute baby animals. I think one of the only carnivores that kill young are lions.
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Scion9 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:43:20pm |
re: #25 winston06
hey, I like the pics on F U Penguin but I dont appreciate the commentary there. Maybe I don't get it but it is not that funny
I think its hilarious.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:43:40pm |
re: #24 gmsc
That should be good for anytime, not just the times ahead of us.
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pink freud Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:43:55pm |
re: #24 gmsc
"... and start again at your beginnings and never breathe a world about your loss."
Thanks, and goodnight, gmsc.
Goodnight dead-thread lizards!
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gmsc Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:44:27pm |
re: #30 BlueCanuck
That should be good for anytime, not just the times ahead of us.
True.
I've just felt like I'll need to hold it closer over the next few years.
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gmsc Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:44:42pm |
re: #31 pink freud
"... and start again at your beginnings and never breathe a world about your loss."
Thanks, and goodnight, gmsc.
Goodnight dead-thread lizards!
Good night, pink!
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x-wing Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:45:21pm |
re: #20 Rustler
He hasn't quite knocked be back off the wagon yet. :P
I wish you the best of luck in your sobriety. If you make stay dry through the next 4 years, you can make it through anything.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:35pm |
re: #25 winston06
hey, I like the pics on F U Penguin but I dont appreciate the commentary there. Maybe I don't get it but it is not that funny
I think it's pretty funny. I suspect the guy that does is the person who years ago had a website that criticized children's drawings. That was really funny. His critiques would rip the drawing apart. Same type of humor. You either like it or you don't. I posted a link to the FUP in the Spinoff links a week or so ago. It got zero updings.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:38pm |
re: #28 Gus 802
Isn't there a survival component built into having a baby face? I say that because it came to mind seeing the cute baby animals. I think one of the only carnivores that kill young are lions.
Nope, not at all. There is no "mother" instinct, a female duck will not care about how many of her brood survive, as long as some survive. Usually enough. Most male birds will destroy eggs to keep chances of another male from being born. Mice will destroy a rivals litter, which will make the female go into heat, thus ensuring his genes are passed on. There are constant instances like this in nature. Cuteness is not a survival factor at all.
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x-wing Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:16pm |
re: #28 Gus 802
Someone here said awhile back that it's the eyes. We are born with adult sized eyes to look to cute to harm.
Sounded good to me.
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x-wing Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:51:14pm |
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winston06 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:07pm |
re: #38 BlueCanuck
yeah... a lot of F words dont make it funny. But pics are great
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Rustler Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:46pm |
re: #28 Gus 802
A number of animals do as lions do in killing off other males progeny. It is a way to pass their own genetic material on. When hte female loses her ofspring she often comes back into heat allowing the new dominant male to pass along his own genetics. When a new stallion takes ovder a heard he often will kick hte stomachs of pregnant fremales to force miscarriages. It's not unique to lions. Just lions get more of a rap for it as they are a large predatory group oriented cat(cats are normally notorious loners).
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KingKenrod Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:53:53pm |
I found this interesting bit of video at fora.tv. Neil deGrasse Tyson defending Bush and the Republicans on science, and remarking on the Dover Trial.
[Link: fora.tv...]
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freetoken Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:54:57pm |
re: #6 Gus 802
My question has always been why can't believers just see evolution as Gods work.
Because it upsets their theological cart.
Being Christians, their central belief is in the necessity of Christ's crucifixion. That was necessary, according to traditional theology, as punishment for man's original sin, so if man is without sin then there would not have been a need for the crucifixion.
Man has sinned == a particular act by a specific person, Adam, in disobeying God. If the evolutionists are correct, then there was no Adam, and thus there never would have been an original sin, nullifying the need for the crucifixion.
It seems to never occur to the literal creationists that "Adam" could be a literary device for all of humanity (or if you want to be gender specific, all men.)
So the root of the issue is how they approach the Bible.
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winston06 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:55:05pm |
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
California Weather Exposes Fiction of Global Warming
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Gus Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:24pm |
re: #46 freetoken
True. But maybe then you can say that they had the date wrong for Adam and Eve and Original Sin.
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Scion9 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:39pm |
re: #48 Gus 802
Nah. It is a cultural thing. Not all cultures of humans throughout history has been swayed by the cuteness of animals. Some have been downright phobic and septic in regards to them.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:40pm |
re: #42 Scion9
I love the puffin conspiracy theories.
I sounds like the same guy who did this.
I am better than your kids.
The second page is funnier.
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alexa kim Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:57:43pm |
re: #27 x-wing
I going to go knock myself out now, but I had to give you a plus on the way out.
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Gus Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:57:56pm |
re: #50 Scion9
My fault and perhaps I think more in line as a species as opposed to culture. Odd that they would think as such from such helpless creatures.
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x-wing Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:58:48pm |
re: #45 KingKenrod
Yeah, Dover really gave our area a bad name(I live 15 minutes West of there). I swear it's confined to the Dover area, it's something in their water.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:00:11am |
re: #42 Scion9
I love the puffin conspiracy theories.
There Once Was a Puffin
by Florence Page Jaques
Oh, there once was a Puffin
Just the shape of a muffin,
And he lived on an island
In the bright blue sea!
He ate little fishes,
That were most delicious,
And he had them for supper
And he had them for tea.
But this poor little Puffin,
He couldn't play nothin',
For he hadn't anybody
To play with at all.
So he sat on his island,
And he cried for awhile, and
He felt very lonely,
And he felt very small.
Then along came the fishes,
And they said, "If you wishes,
You can have us for playmates,
Instead of for tea!"
So they now play together,
In all sorts of weather,
And the Puffin eats pancakes,
Like you and like me.
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Summer Seale Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:01:07am |
re: #45 KingKenrod
I found this interesting bit of video at fora.tv. Neil deGrasse Tyson defending Bush and the Republicans on science, and remarking on the Dover Trial.
[Link: fora.tv...]
I love Fora, I love Neil, and I think the fact that the left has slammed Bush so much on science is totally ludicrous. He was not the incredible Theocrat that they all made him out to be. He clearly believes in evolution, even as a deeply religious man. He said so openly on Nightline a few months ago, and nobody on the left thought to apologize for saying all the terrible things they said about him for years on this subject. Thanks for posting that. =)
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:02:07am |
re: #51 HelloDare
Yeah. I am familiar with Maddox. He is hit or miss, but that is definitely up my alley as far as my sense of humor. He is also the founder of the Titanic Truth movement.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:02:24am |
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:03:55am |
re: #60 Summer
One of Bush's last acts was to set aside the largest ocean preserve in history. He also initiated the return to the Moon as well as the Mars journey. There were a lot of positive scientific moves by Bush.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:05:15am |
He also has the record for education spending and funding to Africa.
Pretty ironic considering the rhetoric we hear.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:05:21am |
re: #49 Gus 802
True. But maybe then you can say that they had the date wrong for Adam and Eve and Original Sin.
But the literal creationists don't want to go there (which is the problem). Their solution to their existential problem (awareness of impending death) is reliant upon a thinking pattern that approaches the Bible as part magic book and part dictation (or recording) of the actual events as if a videotape was recording it.
Also, there are activist creationist who aren't so much literalists, but are driven by beliefs about society, and its apparent demise at the hands of evil secular humanists, and they will fight for ID simply for the social warfare aspect of it.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:06:00am |
re: #59 Rustler
It was her New Jersey.
I'll give you one up-ding. Only because it's Dover,Pa.
/see you coulda had 3 but noooo ;>}
/////
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:07:37am |
re: #47 winston06
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
California Weather Exposes Fiction of Global Warming
Just for that.... I'm going to post Al Gores address to the AAAS from Friday in the spin-off links...
/winston06 made me do it....
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jcw46 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:08:01am |
re: #6 Gus 802
My question has always been why can't believers just see evolution as Gods work.
I would offer a guess that it's because they believe their {insert name of sacred book believed to contain received wisdom from G-D} literally. Most contain chapters/verses that explain/narrate the origins of our universe/planet/people/tribe. These are believed to be fact because "why would G-d's prophets/scribes lie? To accept that they are not true is to cast a shadow on the entire text. This includes their fundamental beliefs in their religion.
This reaction occurs because, I believe, most folks are unable to comprehend that if any G-D exists they would be Omnipotent and thus can achieve their ends ANY WAY THEY WISH. The prophet/scribes were only INTERPRETERS and therefore could have misunderstood what they were told OR G-D kept their explanation simple for simple minds.
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Summer Seale Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:08:48am |
re: #66 Gus 802
One of Bush's last acts was to set aside the largest ocean preserve in history. He also initiated the return to the Moon as well as the Mars journey. There were a lot of positive scientific moves by Bush.
I absolutely agree. The whole "Bush is anti-Science" meme was just plain wrong. It was leftist hatred, pure and simple. Bush wasn't even anti-evolution. I just watched that clip and I have to say, Neil nails it right on the head.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:09:41am |
The Intelligent Design movement starts with the recognition that “In the beginning wasthe Word^ Philip E. Johnson's interpretation of the Bible,” and “In the beginning ^ Philip E. Johnson's version of God created.”
There, fixed it.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:09:56am |
re: #72 freetoken
up-ding...down-ding
token you're making this difficult for me, I like green, but.... ;>}
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Salamantis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:12:02am |
re: #21 orson
I believe God created man in his image. I don't believe he created a being he hoped one day would become human. But I sure don't feel threatened by those who don't believe what I do.
This is America, and you are free to believe what you wish here. What you are NOT free to do is force the teaching of your beliefs to other peoples' children as facts in public high school science class. Especially when shared artifactual retroviral DNA sequences show, beyond rational statistical doubt, that humans and great apes evolutionarily diverged from ancient common ancestors.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:13:15am |
On February 15:
1764 - The city of St. Louis, Missouri is established.
1879 - Women's rights: American President Rutherford B. Hayes signs a bill allowing female attorneys to argue cases before the Supreme Court of the United States.
1965 - A new red-and-white maple leaf design is adopted as the flag of Canada, replacing the old Canadian Red Ensign banner.
2001 - First draft of the complete Human Genome is published in Nature
2005 - YouTube, the popular Internet site on which videos may be shared and viewed by others, is launched in the United States.
Happy Birthday to:
1918 - Allan Arbus (Dr. Sidney Freedman on M*A*S*H), American actor
1951 - Jane Seymour, British actress
1954 - Matt Groening, American cartoonist
1971 - Renée O'Connor, American actress and director
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:13:28am |
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:13:32am |
re: #73 jcw46
I still don't see how they can accept this as faith in its fullest when over time they've accepted an evolved version? So they accept scriptures as gospel yet it's an accepted version that was revised in the 18th century?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:13:50am |
I know I've said it before, but since we're one signature away from it being enacted, the more I hear about the stimulus package, the more I keep thinking about those worthless Argentine Pesos and Autrales I brought back from South America as a novelty keepsake.
How'd they get so wothless? Well, successive ruling regimes kept approving bloated military and public-works budgets and with no sellable debt, they simply printed more and more currency. Some of the stuff I'm just starting to consider include 'What happens to an Argentine who took out a life-insurance policy denominated in Australes 25 years ago and passed away last week?'
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:14:00am |
re: #76 x-wing
up-ding...down-ding
token you're making this difficult for me, I like green, but.... ;>}
...it's not easy being green?
;)
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jcw46 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:14:50am |
re: #74 Summer
I love the "Bush is stupid" one myself. I would PAY to have anyone who believes that; allowed into the cockpit of an F-102 and then tell me that anyone who can fly it is "stupid".
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:14:55am |
re: #82 x-wing Pennsylvania a bit to tough for me to work one with.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:15:22am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:16:37am |
re: #86 jcw46
I love the "Bush is stupid" one myself. I would PAY to have anyone who believes that; allowed into the cockpit of an F-102 and then tell me that anyone who can fly it is "stupid".
Along the same vein, I've heard the same critics who insist he's stupid (yet can fly high-performance military aircraft) refer to the planes he flew (I forget if it was the F-4 or F-102) as obsolete....
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:17:53am |
re: #86 jcw46
The Bush is stupid stuff came about for the same reason hte Palin is a moron stuff did. Eastern educated Reporters assume anyone with a texas or midwest accent is a rube. Because Sarah used such words as Doncha and Bush had his Texas drawl they were assume by the Literatti elite to be uneducated hicks. The rest of the left picked up and perpetuated the stereotype.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:18:07am |
re: #86 jcw46
I love the "Bush is stupid" one myself. I would PAY to have anyone who believes that; allowed into the cockpit of an F-102 and then tell me that anyone who can fly it is "stupid".
Heck, I challenge anyone who thinks Bush is stupid to sit in the cockpit of an F-102 and close the canopy in less than 15 minutes.
Bush had hundreds of hours in that thing, and had no trouble closing it, so it should be a simple matter for anyone who claims to be smarter than Bush to close it, especially given that much time.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:18:11am |
re: #87 Rustler
up-ding just for the honesty. And you saved me from a groan ;>}
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:20:04am |
re: #89 Fenway_Nation
F-102. That was right after the F-100 Super Sabre and it wasn't exactly a trustworthy aircraft. Child of that was the F-106 Delta Dart which would carry the Genie Missile.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:20:37am |
re: #89 Fenway_Nation
I'd like any modern Pilot who has only flown these new fangled fly themselves planes to try handling a Thud.(F4) Back then there wasn't all this nice gps and other nagigational aides. You had throttle tach and horizon indicator basically rest was all you. Now adays your bird tells you if you are a few feet off your flight path.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:22:29am |
re: #76 x-wing
up-ding...down-ding
token you're making this difficult for me, I like green, but.... ;>}
These struggles are good for our (ever evolving) souls, I believe...
Seriously, we as a nation and society tend to get many, many issues intertwined, and politics, societal structures, religions, and science can get all balled up into what looks like a plate of spaghetti. Trying to unwind this mess is a real challenge, and often people just throw up their hands and walk away from the issues.
That happens here at LGF too, in the evolution threads, where many Lizards just won't bother to go. Some are offended by Charles' strong interest in the subject, others are probably bored by it. Nevertheless, it is part of our American society, this struggle that goes on in reckoning religion with politics and science.
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jcw46 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:23:04am |
re: #83 Gus 802
I presume you're speaking of the Bible? Not everyone uses the same edition/translation. I'm not a theologian to be able to explain all the contradictions that crop up in any religion. Just accept that they believe what they believe (as you yourself believe what you believe) and for another to understand how/why is difficult especially if you're "outside" the religion. Most people remain with the religion they were born/taught into. Relatively few change for any length of time and those, I've found, still retain many of the fundamental concepts they were taught whilst practicing their new religion even if they are at odds with each other.
"a man will believe what he wants to believe and disregard the rest".
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:23:42am |
re: #93 Gus 802
F-102. That was right after the F-100 Super Sabre and it wasn't exactly a trustworthy aircraft. Child of that was the F-106 Delta Dart which would carry the Genie Missile.
re: #94 Rustler
I'd like any modern Pilot who has only flown these new fangled fly themselves planes to try handling a Thud.(F4) Back then there wasn't all this nice gps and other nagigational aides. You had throttle tach and horizon indicator basically rest was all you. Now adays your bird tells you if you are a few feet off your flight path.
Bill Whittle covers much of this (The "Bush is stupid" meme, the F-102 & F-106, etc.) early on in his essay, Seeing The Unseen, Part 1.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:25:44am |
re: #90 Rustler
I've had some petty, vindictive co-workers on seperate occasions go on about how stupid Bush is/was and- months later- insist he was the mastermind behind 9/11. I actually asked one of them 'Which is it? Bush is a drooling retard who can't even tie his own shoes or single-handedly co-ordinated the Sept. 11th attacks to make it appear the work of foreign terrorsists? You can't have it both ways....'
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:26:23am |
re: #90 Rustler
What Republican since and including Ford has not been called Dumb or Stupid by the MFM?
Does it go back further?
/to young to know
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Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:27:00am |
re: #90 Rustler
The Bush is stupid stuff came about for the same reason hte Palin is a moron stuff did. Eastern educated Reporters assume anyone with a texas or midwest accent is a rube. Because Sarah used such words as Doncha and Bush had his Texas drawl they were assume by the Literatti elite to be uneducated hicks. The rest of the left picked up and perpetuated the stereotype.
I wonder what they think about most Australians? Are all Aussies dumb according to them because of their strange accent?
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:28:29am |
re: #97 gmsc
Nice link. Compressor stalls on the F-102. That wouldn't be good. They used the F-102 with NASA after changing over from NACA -- more or less. The Thud was actually the F-105 Republic Thunderchief which was the early Wild Weasel in Vietnam. The F-4 was the Phantom which had one nickname of Rhino. That took over the F-105 as a WW with the AF.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:29:01am |
re: #95 freetoken
But a politicians hysterical ramblings about science? Put up an actual scientists view.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:29:26am |
re: #96 jcw46
Then I should just throw my hands up. I live my life the way I want to but tend to regard the rest.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:30:42am |
re: #98 redc1c4
me, for one.....
/several would be better
Coming up... here just take the six pack, you're on your own with the ice ;>}
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:31:42am |
re: #101 Crux Australis Probaly best not asked. Ignorance can truely be bliss especcialy concerning the MSM's ideas or impressions.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:32:30am |
re: #102 Gus 802
Ahh it was the 105 replacements that were the thuds not the f4's?
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:33:21am |
re: #99 Fenway_Nation
I've had some petty, vindictive co-workers on seperate occasions go on about how stupid Bush is/was and- months later- insist he was the mastermind behind 9/11. I actually asked one of them 'Which is it? Bush is a drooling retard who can't even tie his own shoes or single-handedly co-ordinated the Sept. 11th attacks to make it appear the work of foreign terrorsists? You can't have it both ways....'
This is part of the reason I always like to say, "According to the Democrats, Bush was the most evil genius idiot there every was!"
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Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:34:13am |
re: #106 Rustler
In Australia there is no real difference in accent. That's why I asked.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:35:39am |
[Link: www.talkingproud.us...]re: #107 Rustler
Ahh it was the 105 replacements that were the thuds not the f4's?
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:37:40am |
re: #21 orson
I believe God created man in his image. I don't believe he created a being he hoped one day would become human. But I sure don't feel threatened by those who don't believe what I do.
i believe that G*d has a sick sense of humor, and when i die, i expect to hear her laughing.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:37:41am |
Looks like another Little girl missing in Florida. Man came home from the late shift went to check his daughter before he went to bed and found her missing.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:38:31am |
re: #111 Killian Bundy
Exactly, which is what Jim Kasler flew before becoming a POW. The 105.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:38:43am |
re: #109 Gus 802
Ahh ok thought it was the older hunk that was the thud just was thinkint the f4 was the one getting retired after nam.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:39:06am |
re: #99 Fenway_Nation
I've had some petty, vindictive co-workers on seperate occasions go on about how stupid Bush is/was and- months later- insist he was the mastermind behind 9/11. I actually asked one of them 'Which is it? Bush is a drooling retard who can't even tie his own shoes or single-handedly co-ordinated the Sept. 11th attacks to make it appear the work of foreign terrorsists? You can't have it both ways....'
they hate it when you do that.....
/personal experience
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:39:20am |
re: #112 redc1c4
But what if God was one of us? Just a stranger on the bus?
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:39:36am |
Same company that made the P-47 Thunderbolt and the venerable modern day A-10 Thunderbolt.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:39:42am |
re: #110 Crux Australis
In Australia there is no real difference in accent. That's why I asked.
It is funny how the left here tag southern Reps. rubes, but Carter and Clinton are just awsome in their eyes.
Doesn't make any sense, unless you can see the bias.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:40:58am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:41:34am |
re: #119 x-wing
Carter and Clinton are soooooo 20th century....everyone knows that Chicago Community Activists are where it's at...
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:41:46am |
re: #113 Rustler
Looks like another Little girl missing in Florida. Man came home from the late shift went to check his daughter before he went to bed and found her missing.
/yeah, there's more than meets the eye in that story, no sign of forced entry into the doublewide and the guy's 17 year old girlfriend was home alone with the "missing" kid
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:43:01am |
re: #123 Killian Bundy Yeah the Girlfriend was last to see the little girl around 10pm when she put her to bed. Hate seeing all these Kids coming up missing.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:44:13am |
re: #116 redc1c4
they hate it when you do that.....
/personal experience
I felt bad last week when I unloaded on a lefty friend of mine. He was babbling about Bush letting all these jobs go overseas. I calmly started out asking WHO signed NAFTA into law, it went downhill from there. It felt good to say it, but I didn't want to lose a friend over it.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:44:38am |
re: #105 x-wing
Coming up... here just take the six pack, you're on your own with the ice ;>}
they won't last that long........
/BURP!
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:45:12am |
re: #124 redc1c4
Right. The Thud used to go straight into SAM country. Nothing like it to be seen again.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:46:16am |
re: #126 x-wing
I actually got one of my friends upset while out drinking tonight- the kicker is that we agree!
/He hates the Stimupalooza bill, but figured the topic should be left alone for the weekend when I mentioned it in passing.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:46:26am |
re: #103 x-wing
But a politicians hysterical ramblings about science? Put up an actual scientists view.
Yeah... but I always do that... and they tend to get few hits. Let's face it, many of the naysayers (to human induced climate change) are obsessed with Al Gore... the NRO even names their supposed climate blog after him!
I'm not a big fan of Al (nor do I think he deserves the venom that is thrown his way), but he does draw attention.
I've got a long list of links from the current AAAS meeting about these topics, and the president of the AAAS has a video up also, speaking not only of climate but in general of man's impact upon the planet. But I suspect that would bore most people, so I don't bother.
LGF is a strange blog in some ways, we are quite an eclectic group, which I presume is the desire of the blog owner (or else he'd change it.) Some lizards only want to talk about Islam, others about US politics, others about Israel, others about evolution, etc. I try to put up links that might challenge people, or at least entertain them. Perhaps some might get some use out of them.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:46:44am |
re: #126 x-wing
I felt bad last week when I unloaded on a lefty friend of mine. He was babbling about Bush letting all these jobs go overseas. I calmly started out asking WHO signed NAFTA into law, it went downhill from there. It felt good to say it, but I didn't want to lose a friend over it.
yeah, you will need a friend to send packages when you're in the reeducation camp.
/light sarc
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jcw46 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:47:20am |
re: #97 gmsc
Thanks for that link. gotta go to work so I had to bookmark it.
See ya'll later.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:48:06am |
re: #127 redc1c4
they won't last that long........
/BURP!
That's why I wasn't passing the ice. Somehow I knew you would'nt need it ;>}
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:48:10am |
Why shucks. Didn't William Jefferson Clinton sign NAFTA?
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:48:53am |
re: #112 redc1c4
i believe that G*d has a sick sense of humor, and when i die, i expect to hear her laughing.
I remember one time I heard someone refer to God as a woman. I asked, "What makes you think God . . ."
". . . is a woman?" she interuppted.
". . . has a gender?" I continued.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:48:57am |
Lookie here... says William Jefferson Clinton also signed ...
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:49:40am |
re: #132 jcw46
Thanks for that link. gotta go to work so I had to bookmark it.
See ya'll later.
You're welcome. Go through all of Eject! Eject! Eject!. It's a great site.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:50:21am |
And! I always love this one. Al Gore fought against signing the Kyoto Treaty.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:51:28am |
re: #128 Gus 802
Right. The Thud used to go straight into SAM country. Nothing like it to be seen again.
from all accounts, when it went into burner down low, it was untouchable.
bad strategy, tactics, and ROE, all decided from afar, and hydraulic systems that didn't have cut off valves to stop battle damage leaks were the biggest problems......
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:51:31am |
re: #101 Crux Australis
I wonder what they think about most Australians? Are all Aussies dumb according to them because of their strange accent?
I'm sure they think you are all just a bunch of Crocodile Dundees. Uncivilized rubes from the Outback. Just like they think everyone from Texas is a Cowboy and everyone from the South is a stupid racist redneck who's married to their cousin.
"I saw it in the movies you know."
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:53:26am |
re: #142 redc1c4
From afar is right. LBJ was almost acting like forward air controller. Even Nixon did that to a certain extent.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:54:01am |
I'm sure they think you are all just a bunch of Crocodile Dundees. Uncivilized rubes from the Outback. Just like they think everyonerepublican from Texas is a Cowboy and everyonerepublican from the South is a stupid racist redneck who's married to their cousin."I saw it in the movies you know."
re: #143 ArchangelMichael FTFY
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:54:14am |
re: #129 Fenway_Nation
I actually got one of my friends upset while out drinking tonight- the kicker is that we agree!
/He hates the Stimupalooza bill, but figured the topic should be left alone for the weekend when I mentioned it in passing.
Haven't heard any support for it from my friends either. Even some moonbats in the local rag that supported Obama and hated Bush are ragging on ThatOne™ with letters to the editor. I'm loving it.
I will not tell them "I told you so". I did that before the election.
/I just look at them and smile;>}
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:55:16am |
re: #141 Gus 802
And! I always love this one. Al Gore fought against signing the Kyoto Treaty.
Al Gore was behind the hiring of Haliburton, before the Balkans fiasco, and had nothing but glowing praise for them after the fact.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:56:01am |
re: #141 Gus 802
And! I always love this one. Al Gore fought against signing the Kyoto Treaty.
Let's not forget Clinton's State Dept. Secretary Susan Rice, who bungled a deal with Sudan in 96/97 that would've handed Osama Bin Laden over to us years before 9/11!
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:56:18am |
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:56:45am |
re: #147 Scion9
Yes, another little know fact. Clinton also kept his connections with that area.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:57:07am |
re: #135 gmsc
I remember one time I heard someone refer to God as a woman. I asked, "What makes you think God . . ."
". . . is a woman?" she interuppted.
". . . has a gender?" I continued.
of course G*d is female..... that's why everything is so unpredictable.
/white smoke
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:58:02am |
re: #148 gmsc
And she's back in the Obama administration no less.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:58:27am |
re: #144 Gus 802
From afar is right. LBJ was almost acting like forward air controller. Even Nixon did that to a certain extent.
have you read "When Thunder Rolled"? the author is/was a reg on several Usenet groups i frequented....
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:58:45am |
re: #151 redc1c4
of course G*d is female..... that's why everything is so unpredictable.
/white smoke
Thought for the day: Venus is the only planet in the solar system named after a female. Venus is also the only planet that rotates in a direction contrary to its own orbit.
Coincidence? You decide!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:59:01am |
re: #146 x-wing
I was in the grocery store earlier tonight and I saw a display case full of DVDs out of the corner of my eye as I walked past. They looked like a new release (dozens of copies of the same DVD) and when I cocked my head and stopped for a moment, I saw that they were all for 0bama's innauguration. If my first instinct was to kick over that display case and keep walking, does that mean I'm not well?
/I did take some satisfaction in the fact that there were so many of them and they didn't seem to be selling at all
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:59:03am |
re: #152 Gus 802
And she's back in the Obama administration no less.
Yep - Isn't she UN Ambassador now?
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 12:59:44am |
re: #131 redc1c4
I don't think...no let's make that wont make it to the re-education camp.
/but I may need ammo up to that point ;>}
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:00:04am |
re: #153 redc1c4
Tempered Steel is one I red. Along with They'll Bury Us Upsidedown.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:00:45am |
re: #155 Fenway_Nation
I was in the grocery store earlier tonight and I saw a display case full of DVDs out of the corner of my eye as I walked past. They looked like a new release (dozens of copies of the same DVD) and when I cocked my head and stopped for a moment, I saw that they were all for 0bama's innauguration. If my first instinct was to kick over that display case and keep walking, does that mean I'm not well?
/I did take some satisfaction in the fact that there were so many of them and they didn't seem to be selling at all
Actually, your first instinct shows that you ARE well.
;)
It's people who do things like this that aren't well.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:02:33am |
re: #149 x-wing
Here have a beer. We can save the Planet some other time. ;>}
//
"Earth First!"
(We'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:03:21am |
re: #154 gmsc
Thought for the day: Venus is the only planet in the solar system named after a female. Venus is also the only planet that rotates in a direction contrary to its own orbit.
Coincidence? You decide!
nawwwwww, i'll just say "yes dear."
/less trouble
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:04:46am |
re: #157 x-wing
I don't think...no let's make that wont make it to the re-education camp.
/but I may need ammo up to that point ;>}
Molon Labe!
/amen brother.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:07:04am |
re: #155 Fenway_Nation
Unreal...and they have Obama trading cards at my local convenience store.
/what freakin' madness,over a 3 week old Pres.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:07:07am |
re: #155 Fenway_Nation
I was in the grocery store earlier tonight and I saw a display case full of DVDs out of the corner of my eye as I walked past. They looked like a new release (dozens of copies of the same DVD) and when I cocked my head and stopped for a moment, I saw that they were all for 0bama's innauguration. If my first instinct was to kick over that display case and keep walking, does that mean I'm not well?
/I did take some satisfaction in the fact that there were so many of them and they didn't seem to be selling at all
The other night I was in a Barnes and Noble. In the front of the store, a display table was set up, all covered with various books and newspapers featuring Barack Obama. There was a big "BARACK OBAMA" sign displayed. I made a snide remark, sort of out loud, and the woman behind the counter heard me. She started laughing. I looked over and I said, "It's just TOO MUCH, you know?"
She said, "Yeah, I know what you mean...he's okay with me, but it's out-of-hand. Imagine what it's like to work in a book store!"
I just wonder what some of these retailers (I'm talking about management) are thinking. They don't apparently care that probably half their customers didn't support him, and are sick to death of seeing his mug plastered all over the place.
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:08:51am |
re: #93 Gus 802
The F-102 sat alert pad at Udorn RTAFB in northeast Thailand in 1967. I worked on the armament systems of the F and TF-102A in northern Texas in 1968 at a training base. Maintained the systems and performed phase dock maintenance. Certified all three load crew positions and uploaded and downloaded live missiles and rockets. Also uploaded and downloaded the WISM (inert training missile). Pneumatic doors and launchers were a pain.
Stupid pilots washed out of training fast.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:10:14am |
re: #164 x-wing
Unreal...and they have Obama trading cards at my local convenience store.
/what freakin' madness,over a 3 week old Pres.
When he puts the final nail in the coffin of our economy, turns the health care system to s__t, and there's a massive terrorist attack because he has undermined our national security, I wonder if the people who buy such things will wish they could get their money back.
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:11:19am |
re: #94 Rustler
F-105 Thunderchief (Thud).
F-4 Phantom, sometimes known as the bent wing bug sucker. Designed by a drunken foreman in an angle iron factory.
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mean Gene Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:11:57am |
#165 and #155
I don't know if you have ''Big Lots'' (it's almost 100% Chinese import junk) or not but those Chinese sure have tried to cash in on 0bama, too.
They had a huge pile of one of his two books.....but made in China and for $.99.
Nobody even straightens the pile, they just leave it all in a wreak.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:12:15am |
re: #165 capitalist piglet
The other night I was in a Barnes and Noble. In the front of the store, a display table was set up, all covered with various books and newspapers featuring Barack Obama. There was a big "BARACK OBAMA" sign displayed. I made a snide remark, sort of out loud, and the woman behind the counter heard me. She started laughing. I looked over and I said, "It's just TOO MUCH, you know?"
She said, "Yeah, I know what you mean...he's okay with me, but it's out-of-hand. Imagine what it's like to work in a book store!"
I just wonder what some of these retailers (I'm talking about management) are thinking. They don't apparently care that probably half their customers didn't support him, and are sick to death of seeing his mug plastered all over the place.
It sounds like the buyers for the book chains were big 0bama supporters, and overbought on that basis. The books sold to other supporters, but the over-purchased remainders are taking up valuable shelf space and not selling.
They're probably trying to promote them like mad to get them off the shelves. Many of them are so far in the tank for 0bama that they believe that the only people who oppose 0bama are racist.
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:13:41am |
re: #166 FamHistoryGuy
Right. They had the doors since it was set up as a bomber interceptor. To intercept Russian bombers. Of course when they found their way to SE Asia it didn't fit into the correct role. Another one being the F-104.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:14:14am |
re: #169 mean Gene
#165 and #155
I don't know if you have ''Big Lots'' (it's almost 100% Chinese import junk) or not but those Chinese sure have tried to cash in on 0bama, too.
They had a huge pile of one of his two books.....but made in China and for $.99.
Nobody even straightens the pile, they just leave it all in a wreak.
There's an interesting project - go around to different types of stores and see how the 0bama merchandise is arranged, how it's selling, and whether it's kept up.
I'd love to see a blogger do this, and see how much or how little anything changes from week to week.
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:14:50am |
re: #165 capitalist piglet
You should've asked her how they were selling. Better yet, go back and ask, I'd love to hear her answer ;>}
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Gus Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:19:19am |
Good night.
Take comfort in the fact that Obama won't be back until Tuesday.
Cheers.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:19:59am |
re: #175 Gus 802
Good night.
Take comfort in the fact that Obama won't be back until Tuesday.
Cheers.
Sleep well, Gus!
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:21:06am |
re: #144 Gus 802
LBJ once said that a pilot could not bomb an outhouse without his permission. Micro management at some of its worst.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:21:06am |
re: #168 FamHistoryGuy
From Airman magazine , circa 1968:
" Another mission in the Asian skies,
Another sortie as the day's begun.
The foe will feel the wrath of the 105,
until this dismal war at last is done".
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:21:20am |
re: #169 mean Gene
The Chinese don't got nothing on Obama. Japan has them beat, hands down.
[Link: kabukishojo.com...]
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x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:21:59am |
I'm out, no fruitcup for me tonight. Gotta get my eyes closed before the sun comes up.
Try to keep your scales dry, later.
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infidel4ever Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:22:44am |
Hi everybody.
Here is more Obamamania: Barack Obama licence plates unveiled to benefit Illinois libraries
This personality cult is not over by a long shot...
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:23:06am |
re: #179 Scion9
The Chinese don't got nothing on Obama. Japan has them beat, hands down.
[Link: kabukishojo.com...]
I see what you mean:
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:25:38am |
re: #171 Gus 802
F-104 The Widow maker. Germans loved them though.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:25:54am |
re: #181 infidel4ever
Hi everybody.
Here is more Obamamania: Barack Obama licence plates unveiled to benefit Illinois libraries
This personality cult is not over by a long shot...
they'd be more appropriate if they were color by numbers.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:26:38am |
IF
" If you can keep your head
while those about you are losing theirs , maybe you don't understand the situation".
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Wendya Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:28:07am |
re: #90 Rustler
The Bush is stupid stuff came about for the same reason hte Palin is a moron stuff did. Eastern educated Reporters assume anyone with a texas or midwest accent is a rube. Because Sarah used such words as Doncha and Bush had his Texas drawl they were assume by the Literatti elite to be uneducated hicks. The rest of the left picked up and perpetuated the stereotype.
Which doesn't explain the popularity of Bill Clinton before Obama usurped his role as savior of the universe.
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:30:57am |
re: #188 redc1c4
Original ejection seat was downward. Later converted to upward ejection.
You fly like you train. One pilot flew an unconverted one to the factory for conversion and picked up a converted one to return to base with. Engine failure on takeoff and you can guess the rest.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:31:51am |
re: #186 winston06
[Link: www.ianallanmagazines.com...]
has special coverage of the fame Thud
engrish isn't your first language, is it?
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:34:34am |
re: #189 Wendya
Which doesn't explain the popularity of Bill Clinton before Obama usurped his role as savior of the universe.
It sort of does. I'm from a part of the country that is way uptight about 'rednecks' (which is more or less the entire Northeast) like Palin. The bigotry isn't on the surface, but it can be whipped up with a little help.
Bill Clinton is a red flag being waved in front of the bull that is the urbane bigot. You can either soothe the bull or enrage him. The media makes soothing noises for Clinton, and lights firecrackers for Palin.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:49:10am |
re: #170 gmsc
It sounds like the buyers for the book chains were big 0bama supporters, and overbought on that basis. The books sold to other supporters, but the over-purchased remainders are taking up valuable shelf space and not selling.
They're probably trying to promote them like mad to get them off the shelves. Many of them are so far in the tank for 0bama that they believe that the only people who oppose 0bama are racist.
That's a plausible theory; the current events section of that store has long been peppered with Obama books. My personal gag-me-with-a-rototiller moment came when (before the election) I saw a calendar there, with "inspirational" quotes from Obama.
Oh yeah, that's just what I'm looking for - a calendar featuring a junior senator from Illinois with Marxist ties. I can hardly wait to get my hands on one.
/////
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:49:33am |
0bama White House in full CYA mode after Feinstein disloses Predator drones being launched from bases inside Pakistan.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:50:41am |
re: #194 capitalist piglet
That's a plausible theory; the current events section of that store has long been peppered with Obama books. My personal gag-me-with-a-rototiller moment came when (before the election) I saw a calendar there, with "inspirational" quotes from Obama.
Oh yeah, that's just what I'm looking for - a calendar featuring a junior senator from Illinois with Marxist ties. I can hardly wait to get my hands on one.
/////
Have you seen "Pocket 0bama"?
Many of us here refer to it as "Quotations from Chairman 0bama".
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:50:52am |
re: #173 x-wing
You should've asked her how they were selling. Better yet, go back and ask, I'd love to hear her answer ;>}
If I see her again, I absolutely will. Honestly, it was nice to know every employee there wasn't completely in the tank. I had assumed they were - I'm not sure why. Maybe because I'd have to be to work there. Otherwise I couldn't stand it.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:51:00am |
I noticed last night that Charles posted something about an LGF cookbook being available. Two questions:
1. How many recipes for fruit cup are in it?
2. How many recipes that are useful for those of us who keep Kosher (i.e. recipes without pig products, shellfish products and mixtures of milk and meat) are in it?
| 199 |
freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:54:22am |
Instapundit is now pimping a doomer porn editorial from the WSJ (of all places). Then again, he is also pimping a similar WND article...
Sometimes I wonder if the internet is really such a great invention.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:55:53am |
re: #199 freetoken
You do know who invented the Internet don't you? Behead those who insult Al-gore.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:55:54am |
re: #196 gmsc
Have you seen "Pocket 0bama"?
Many of us here refer to it as "Quotations from Chairman 0bama".
Oh yes, I'm quite familiar with it. In fact, one night when Walter was putting up quotes from it (some - or maybe all - he manufactured, I think : ), I started comparing them with The World According to Elvis: Quotes From the King, and they were almost indistinguishable. It was like a Unabomber vs. Al Gore exercise.
(I suppose I'll have to explain what I'm doing with that book sooner or later.)
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:57:02am |
CARL! :-)
There's a million stories in the Naked City recipes for fruitcup!
/you'll have to wait for the cookbook
//all kosher!
///except for the one with marshmallows...
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:57:13am |
Carl in Jerusalem (#198),
Ya know, now that you mention it a fruit cup would be great right about now.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:58:04am |
re: #201 capitalist piglet
Oh yes, I'm quite familiar with it. In fact, one night when Walter was putting up quotes from it (some - or maybe all - he manufactured, I think : ), I started comparing them with The World According to Elvis: Quotes From the King, and they were almost indistinguishable. It was like a Unabomber vs. Al Gore exercise.
(I suppose I'll have to explain what I'm doing with that book sooner or later.)
Here's an eye-opening exercise: GUESS WHICH COLLECTIVIST SAID IT...
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 1:59:44am |
re: #205 littleoldlady
Is that east coast or west coast time? Or central? Or Mountain?
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:00:05am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:00:18am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
Yum! Thanks!
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:00:44am |
Fenway! :-)
The time is NOW! :-)
/wherever you are...
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:00:53am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
Aaahhhhh.... something to help me keep my strength as I'm reading doomer porn....
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:00:55am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Detective Adam Flint says it's good.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:02:06am |
freetoken! :-)
BatGuano! :-)
Doomer porn? I don't want to know, do I?
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:02:19am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
Good morning....although this will be the second football-less Sunday :(
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:02:24am |
Time for yet another poetry moment.
Ickle Me Pickle Me Tickle Me Too, by Shel Silverstein:
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:03:17am |
re: #214 Geepers
Not exactly. New computer with a blogglewanky clock.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:04:14am |
re: #215 littleoldlady
Doomer porn? I don't want to know, do I?
Basically, the end of the world, or in the case of this particular guest WSJ opinion piece, the likelihood we are heading for a world-wide Weimar-type economy followed by a world government.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:04:53am |
Matrix! :-)
No football? Funny I didn't notice. ;-)
/that means racing season should be starting
//feh. I hate that vroom noise...hour after hour after hour...!
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:05:05am |
re: #204 gmsc
Here's an eye-opening exercise: GUESS WHICH COLLECTIVIST SAID IT...
Wow. Thanks for that. It's long, and I'm still doing it - got several right, but a LOT wrong so far. CRIKEY. That's an eye-opener, all right!
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:05:26am |
littleoldlady (#219),
Computer with a messed up clock? That ain't good.
Do you do any auto update adjusting?
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:05:33am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
CARL! :-)
There's a million
stories in the Naked Cityrecipes for fruitcup!/you'll have to wait for the cookbook
//all kosher!
///except for the one with marshmallows...
Sounds great. Can I take one off the counter now?
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Scorch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:05:40am |
re: #86 jcw46
I love the "Bush is stupid" one myself. I would PAY to have anyone who believes that; allowed into the cockpit of an F-102 and then tell me that anyone who can fly it is "stupid".
From what I read about the F-102 along with most other century series fighters, they were quite a handful and a killer of those who did not respect them.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:05:47am |
re: #200 Scion9
That WSJ article was terrible actually. It's like half of it is still waiting to be translated, but the parts missing were picked out at random, instead of just getting the first or last half of the essay.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:05:54am |
re: #222 capitalist piglet
Wow. Thanks for that. It's long, and I'm still doing it - got several right, but a LOT wrong so far. CRIKEY. That's an eye-opener, all right!
You're welcome.
It's even more fun to watch a democrat trying to fill it out.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:06:26am |
re: #219 littleoldlady
Not exactly. New computer with a blogglewanky clock.
It does what while it plays boggle?
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:06:37am |
re: #220 freetoken
Yeah, I've been watching Glenn Beck now that he's on FoxNews.
/been sleeping even worse than usual :-(
I need to get a survival plan together for the coming Great Collapse...
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:07:19am |
re: #221 littleoldlady
Matrix! :-)
No football? Funny I didn't notice. ;-)
/that means racing season should be starting
//feh. I hate that vroom noise...hour after hour after hour...!
You mean baseball season! My Braves are gonna be gunnin' for your Phillies!
/And for that comment, I'll borrow a certain catchphrase from a certain hated politician -- HOPE
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:08:57am |
littleoldlady (#229),
I need to get a survival plan together for the coming Great Collapse...
I'm thinking comfortable shoes and an umbrella would be in order.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:09:30am |
Good morning littleoldlady. Fruitcup goes great with lurking. :)
/have nothing to add to the conversation so just sitting quietly.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:09:32am |
re: #223 Geepers
It's about 5 seconds off.
/is it worth messing with it? ;-)
re: #224 Carl in Jerusalem
Bon appetit!
/the good news is, since we're headed for becoming The New France, it won't be too much work for me to brush up on a language I spent 12 years studying
//nevermind that I was NEVER any good at it! :-/
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:10:25am |
re: #230 TheMatrix31
According to the local papers we've already won the 2009 World Series.
/don't bother showing up ;-)
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:11:21am |
re: #229 littleoldlady
I need to get a survival plan together for the coming Great Collapse...
As long as you can keep the fruit bats away from the fruit cup you'll be ok!
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:11:37am |
re: #234 littleoldlady
According to the local papers we've already won the 2009 World Series.
/don't bother showing up ;-)
Heh, Philly being presumptuous? Color me shocked!
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:12:37am |
re: #231 Geepers
littleoldlady (#229),
I'm thinking comfortable shoes and an umbrella would be in order.
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:12:52am |
littleoldlady (#233),
It's about 5 seconds off./is it worth messing with it? ;-)
Only if your navigating your sailboat by sextant or taking pictures of Venus.
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Scorch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:13:01am |
re: #113 Rustler
Looks like another Little girl missing in Florida. Man came home from the late shift went to check his daughter before he went to bed and found her missing.
I wish the outcome could be the same with her as in the movie Taken. Which by the way is an excellent movie.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:14:01am |
re: #236 TheMatrix31
Heh, Philly being presumptuous? Color me shocked!
You'll have to excuse us. We're not used to winning. ;-)
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:14:48am |
re: #233 littleoldlady
It's about 5 seconds off.
/is it worth messing with it? ;-)
re: #224 Carl in Jerusalem
Bon appetit!
/the good news is, since we're headed for becoming The New France, it won't be too much work for me to brush up on a language I spent 12 years studying
//nevermind that I was NEVER any good at it! :-/
Everyone waving white flags out the window, eh?
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:15:31am |
In place of Dante, it was I traversing heaven, hell and points in between with Virgil as my spirit guide. At one point, as we moved through the seventh level of hell, we entered into the Great Hall of Politics. I was amazed to find that it was filled with clocks, each marked with the name of a politician and each displaying a different time. When I questioned the demonic curator of the hall about them, he said that each time a politician did a flip flop, the hands of the clock would spin about. I saw McCain’s clock, and it showed a quarter to three. I saw Kerry’s clock, it read midnight. But, look as I might, I could not find Obama’s, so I asked Virgil if he could see it. Before he could respond, the demon curator piped up: “The boss has that one. He’s using it for a fan.”
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:15:57am |
littleoldlady (#237),
"From where I stand the sun is shining all over the place."
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Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:17:10am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
{Morning lol} thanks for fruitcup
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:18:03am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:19:33am |
re: #242 Carl in Jerusalem
Everyone waving white flags out the window, eh?
Golly, I hope not!
My daughter an I are starting a new poltical party. We've named it ThrowTheBumsOut.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:19:40am |
re: #246 littleoldlady
You just reminded me to check my Powerball ticket.
/well, I'm still here... :-(
Try scratching the numbers by sextant next time...
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:20:54am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:21:49am |
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:23:26am |
That WND article basically says that social security is getting robbed, and we are going to need to perpetually borrow money, or print it to pay for benefits. In other words, it contained no new information.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:25:12am |
re: #251 littleoldlady It's a tangent about numbers multiplying.///
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Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:26:46am |
Three mice were sitting in a bar talking about how tough they were.
The first mouse slams a shot and says, "I play with mouse traps for fun. I'll run into one on purpose and as it is closing on me, I grab the bar and bench press it twenty or thirty times." And with that he slams another shot.
The second mouse slams a shot and says, "That's nothing. I take those Decon tablets, cut them up and snort them just for the fun of it."
And with that he slams another shot.
The third mouse slams a shot, gets up and walks away. The first two mice look at each other, and then turn to the third mouse and ask, "Where the hell are you going?"
The third mouse stops and replies, "I'm going home to fuck the cat."
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:26:49am |
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:32:00am |
littleoldlady (#251),
Practical celestial navigation usually requires a marine chronometer to measure time, a sextant to measure the angles, an almanac giving schedules of the coordinates of celestial objects, a set of sight reduction tables to help perform the height and azimuth computations, and a chart of the region.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:32:09am |
A Priest, a Rabbi and a Minister walk into a bar, The bartender says, " What is this, a joke?'
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:33:01am |
re: #257 Geepers
She had sarc tag before the question. I assume she was being facetious.
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Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:33:12am |
There was these two old men sitting in one of the old mens house. They haven't had sex in 20 years... The first old man then said,"I have an idea...Lets go to the whore house and have sex with a young lady!" The other old man agreed and they went to the whore house and went to the lady up front and asked her for one woman each to have sex with.. The lady behind the counter thought,"well my girls are to good for these old mean,so I'll give them blow up dolls...They wont know the difference." So she gave them each a blow up doll and the old men thought they were real living girls.. They went to a room did their business and came out and went home.. On the way home the 1st old man said,"You know..when i was doing my business i think that girl was dead,she didnt say anything,move or anything..Just laid there" he looekd at the other old man and said,"what do you think?" The other old man looked at him and said,"I think mine was a witch.." the first old man asked,"Why you say that?" and the 2nd old man responded,"Because when I bit her on the boob she farted and flew out the window."
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Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:34:10am |
A high school English teacher reminds her class of tomorrow's final exam.
"Now class, I won't tolerate any excuses for you not being there tomorrow. I might consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury or illness, or a death in your immediate family - but that's it, no other excuses whatsoever!"
A smart-ass guy in the back of the room raises his hand and asks,"What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete and utter sexual exhaustion?"
The entire class does its best to stifle their laughter
When silence is restored, the teacher smiles sympathetically at the student,shakes her head, and sweetly says, "Well, I guess you'd have to write the exam with your other hand."
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Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:35:01am |
A young female teacher was giving an assignment to her 6th grade class. It was a large assignment so she started writing high up on the chalkboard. Suddenly there was a giggle from one of the boys in the class.
She quickly turned and asked, "What's so funny Bobby?"
"Well teacher, I just saw one of your garters."
"Get out of my classroom," she yells, "I don't want to see you for three days!"
The teacher turns back to the chalkboard.
Realizing she had forgotten to title the assignment; she reaches to the very top of the chalkboard. Suddenly there is an even louder giggle from another male student. She quickly turns and asks, "What's so funny Billy?"
"Well teacher, I just saw BOTH of your garters."
Again she yells, "Get out of my classroom!" This time the punishment is more severe, and tells him - "I don't want to see you for three weeks!"
Embarrassed and frustrated, she drops the eraser when she turns around again. So she bends over to pick it up. This time there is an burst of laughter from another male student. She quickly turns to see Little Johnny leaving the classroom.
"And where do you think you are going?" she asks.
"Well teach, from what I just saw, my school days are over!"
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:37:24am |
re: #257 Geepers
And THAT is why I don't have a boat!
;-)
Rustler! :-)
I (mis)use the slash in a different way
/I'm NEVER sarcastic! Perish the thought!
;-)
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:44:35am |
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:54:25am |
Since nobody is watching:
In 1942, a soldier is stationed at a remote army outpost in Utah. He is given a rundown of the activities of the post by a sergeant. The soldier asks," Since there are no women here what do I do when I get a little antsy?". The sergeant points out the window to a mule grazing on a hill. The soldier thinks he will ever get that desperate. But, a few short weeks later he can't take it any longer. He drops trow and starts giving it to the mule.
He notices that he has drawn a crowd and asks, "Isn't this what you do?"
The sergeant says, " No, we usually ride it into town to the whorehouse:
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 2:59:37am |
There's no new thread,
Was it something I said?
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Geepers Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:03:16am |
BatGuano, if that is your real name, no new threads till 8:00AM.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:08:04am |
Iron Fist! :-)
Who can sleep!? We're busy!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:09:18am |
re: #270 Iron Fist
Sleep? What's this sleep you talk of?
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:13:41am |
Ok. I worked swing shift, I've has a couple of Nehi's and I'm looking' for trouble.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:18:28am |
re: #275 BatGuano
Just about to. I have to go cook stuff. :-(
/kicking and screaming all the way to the kitchen...
Good day, ALL!™
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Dayenu Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:19:43am |
re: #86 jcw46
I tried that one on my mother.
Her response was: "They can train a chimpanzee to fly an airplane"
(rolls eyes)
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wahabicorridor Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:26:37am |
re: #277 Dayenu
I tried that one on my mother.
Her response was: "They can train a chimpanzee to fly an airplane"
(rolls eyes)
Did you ask her if she'd care to be a passenger on a flight piloted by a monkey?
morning lizardia
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:40:56am |
On topic:
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the Word was God.
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WhiteRasta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:47:12am |
re: #279 wahabicorridor
Welcome aboard Automated Airlines first flight from New York to Paris.This aircraft is entirely controlled by computers. There are no humans on the flight deck.
Now sit back and relax. Remember, nothing can go wrong, click, go wrong, click, go wrong, click go wrong..........
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:49:36am |
re: #283 WhiteRasta
I, for one, would like to welcome our new robot overlords.
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WhiteRasta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:51:38am |
re: #284 Scion9
Well, at least they can't do a worse job than our politicians have done.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:52:21am |
re: #283 WhiteRasta
Wasn't that from a Michael Crichton novel?
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WhiteRasta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:55:40am |
re: #286 BatGuano
It may have been. I remember it as a joke in my childhood......
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Render Sun, Feb 15, 2009 3:59:37am |
re: #266 littleoldlady
No blogger account, can't post there.
uh...nevermind.
I found the address.
DUH,
R
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:01:28am |
Is everyone feeling stimulated this weekend?
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:01:33am |
re: #287 WhiteRasta
Just Joshin'. A theme from most of his novels.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:02:41am |
re: #264 Render
Carl, do you have a way we can get in e-mail touch?
QUESTIONS,
R
Click my avatar. Go to my blog. It's there.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:03:10am |
re: #270 Iron Fist
Damn, do you people ever sleep?
Gonna try and hit the sack...
Sure. But you're up then.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:04:56am |
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:05:19am |
Oh goodie! Looks like I chased everyone else away.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:05:39am |
Should I go for my own record for consecutive comments?
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:06:20am |
You guys have forgotten the old days when Charles would post the early morning thread at 3:00 am Pacific, and I would hit it with about a dozen link dumps - each one a comment (the pre-spinoff days).
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:07:45am |
Well in case anyone missed it, this ought to keep you entertained for a couple of minutes. It's quite 'stimulating.' Heh.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:08:05am |
Is the fruit cup all gone? I'd like seconds....
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:08:36am |
Too bad we're not near 1000 comments. Then again, if we were, TFK would show up.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:08:39am |
Yes, yes, I'm here! I had to write a post for another blog that req'd some research.
But now I'm off to read the newspapers.
BBL
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:09:02am |
re: #302 BatGuano
I wish knew that, I'm a newbie!
You wish you knew what? How we dumped links in the good old days?
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:09:31am |
re: #304 wahabicorridor
Yes, yes, I'm here! I had to write a post for another blog that req'd some research.
But now I'm off to read the newspapers.
BBL
Research? What's that? We now call it "google search."
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:09:55am |
re: #301 Carl in Jerusalem
I snagged the last one. It was exquisite.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:10:12am |
Okay guys, time to go eat breakfast, lunch whatever (it's 2:00 pm here). BBL.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:11:04am |
re: #307 BatGuano
I snagged the last one. It was exquisite.
Okay, had to make one more comment.
You're a male?
"Bat" means daughter in Hebrew. I assumed you were a she.
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witchynurse Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:12:01am |
Don't worry, more fruit cup will be arriving shortly.
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abaleh Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:12:14am |
What is this fruitcup everybody talks about here?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:17:22am |
re: #294 Carl in Jerusalem
The only upside to the stimulus bill as it is will be that the voters will be stimualted to go to the polls and the GOP will sweep back to power in the House and Senate in 2010..... but by then I'm not sure how much of an economy there will be left to preside over.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:21:53am |
re: #309 Carl in Jerusalem
Carl, I understand that Bat Mitzvah is the equivalent of Bar Mitzvah. My Nic comes from the movie DR. Strangelove and has nothing to do with Jewish religious practitice.
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Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:30:29am |
I'm curious to know what effect the stimulus package will have beyond the US. Anyone have any ideas?
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coquimbojoe Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:35:44am |
re: #309 Carl in Jerusalem
Okay, had to make one more comment.
You're a male?
"Bat" means daughter in Hebrew. I assumed you were a she.
Guano means 'crap' in Spanish...
Great post about Obamateur dropping sanctions on Iran. What a fool. I hope you are wrong.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:36:49am |
(the obligatory, after-first-cup-of-coffee, drive-by rant)
The Intelligent Design movement starts with the recognition that “In the beginning was the Word,” and “In the beginning God created.” Establishing that point isn’t enough, but it is absolutely essential to the rest of the gospel message.
Gee, it IS? ... Then what's wrong with ME, Mr. Johnson?
C'mon, tell me.
Don't be shy, Mr. Johnson.
Might it loosen your tongue to know that, based upon all available SCIENTIFIC evidence, I accept the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin?
My, my, Mr. Johnson, is that a coronary you're having?
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coquimbojoe Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:39:30am |
re: #316 pre-Boomer Marine brat
He's probably sleeping soundly. Probably not terribly impressed with your argument. Just saying.
I am going to bed now.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:40:12am |
re: #317 coquimbojoe
He's probably sleeping soundly. Probably not terribly impressed with your argument. Just saying.
I am going to bed now.
Good morning.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:41:59am |
re: #314 Crux Australis
Yes. We have overextended our credit and our productivity. This will have world wide ramifications. We (the US) have been the one stabilizing influence on the world's economy. Now that that has been shattered all the world's economies have been destabilized and the world will be watching us for leadership.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:42:41am |
re: #317 coquimbojoe
And it wasn't a debating-style "argument".
His type love to tell other people why they are wrong.
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quickjustice Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:43:35am |
re: #316 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Johnson admits talking theology from "the beginning". ;-)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:45:46am |
re: #321 quickjustice
Johnson admits talking theology from "the beginning". ;-)
We know what God did.
What did Johnson do on his first daze?
/damn, I need more coffee
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:47:11am |
re: #311 abaleh
What is this fruitcup everybody talks about here?
Go look at precisely 2:00 am Pacific time.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:47:36am |
re: #315 coquimbojoe
Hey, hey, hey, now.Guano.. crap.? What is wrong with fertilizer?
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witchynurse Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:48:11am |
Pre-Boomer: just pour the water in the can/bag of grounds and treat it like breakfast cereal. Saves a lot of time and effort.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:48:13am |
re: #314 Crux Australis
Hopefully everyone else will see this as an example of what not to do or the world is in for some tough times.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:48:34am |
re: #315 coquimbojoe
Guano means 'crap' in Spanish...
Great post about Obamateur dropping sanctions on Iran. What a fool. I hope you are wrong.
Glad you liked it.
I hope I'm wrong too. But I fear that it's right.
For those who missed it, the post we're discussing is the top link for the last 24 hours right now.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:48:50am |
re: #323 Carl in Jerusalem
LoL was 5 seconds late again today : P
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:50:42am |
re: #314 Crux Australis
I'm curious to know what effect the stimulus package will have beyond the US. Anyone have any ideas?
I can tell you that here there's a good chance that the government will end up trying to ape it.
Unless Bibi can hold them off.
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Carl in Jerusalem Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:51:08am |
re: #328 Rustler
LoL was 5 seconds late again today : P
It's tough to time that thing exactly. I've tried it.
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Proud to be an Infidel Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:53:20am |
re: #46 freetoken
Because it upsets their theological cart.
Being Christians, their central belief is in the necessity of Christ's crucifixion. That was necessary, according to traditional theology, as punishment for man's original sin, so if man is without sin then there would not have been a need for the crucifixion.
Man has sinned == a particular act by a specific person, Adam, in disobeying God. If the evolutionists are correct, then there was no Adam, and thus there never would have been an original sin, nullifying the need for the crucifixion.
It seems to never occur to the literal creationists that "Adam" could be a literary device for all of humanity (or if you want to be gender specific, all men.)
So the root of the issue is how they approach the Bible.
Interesting point freetoken. I really believe the church will/has to rethink their interpretation of the first chapter of the Bible and I really believe they will. Perhaps it wasn't as literal as they thought it was. Like you said, "'Adam' could be a literary device for all of humanity". A humanity with a sinful nature in dire need of a Savior, hence the crucifixion. Or he could be a person who actually existed, only part of the evolutionary process.
This is where science and evolution, the very thing that many Evangelicals curse, could actually be a wonderful for Christianity! Wasn't it Galileo who theorized that the earth revolved around the sun and didn't the Vatican want to execute him for that? Well, I don't think there are many credible Christians today who believe the sun revolves around the earth.
Many stories and parables written in the Bible, I believe, were written and inspired for simple minds to understand. Especially when we're talking about cultures thousands and thousands of years ago. The idea of a spherical earth going around the sun would have completely thrown them off causing them to miss the whole point of the story! Unfortunately, there are many staunch Christians today who can be very close minded toward recent scientific discoveries. So it may take a hundred years or so for Evangelicals to come around to the concept of evolution but as a Christian myself, I believe that God will lead them down that path.
Just my take on the matter.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:56:34am |
So the Colt peacemaker I was using above or this Kimber for avatar any opinions?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:57:56am |
re: #332 Rustler
So the Colt peacemaker I was using above or this Kimber for avatar any opinions?
Morning Lizards! Peacemaker, in my opinion.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:58:28am |
Odd the colt is still coming up in hte post window but the Kimber pops up when I click icon.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 4:59:16am |
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coquimbojoe Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:00:46am |
re: #324 BatGuano
Hey, hey, hey, now.Guano.. crap.? What is wrong with fertilizer?
Sorry, guano is the crap collected for the rich phosphate content for fertilizer.
Carl: I fear obama will make Carter look like a superstar. I cannot stand Carter, I do not believe he accomplish anything of value, but I do believe that he thought he was working for peace. I think he was misguided, but not, perhaps, devious and nefarious (recent actions prove he is now though). Obama is committed to deconstructionism on a grand scale. He is happily breaking things and endangering us all.
Pre Boomer, Charles never has seemed to be anti-God. He IS certainly against flawed arguments masquerading as science. I am religious too, but I would prefer that faith stays out of the classroom. If we teach any type of creationism, whose version are we gonna give? Mormon, Jewish, Baptist, Hindus? Will we have our children told its turtles all the way down? I will raise my children up to honor God and His son Jesus Christ. I do not need some government functionary training them in psuedo religious 'science'. I will handle the faith part and correct at home anything I feel needs to be corrected.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:01:29am |
re: #334 Wyatt Earp
Wyatt ... how are YOU doing today?
Is the grief still bottled up?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:03:28am |
re: #339 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Wyatt ... how are YOU doing today?
Is the grief still bottled up?
More or less. At work today fighting sleep, but to be honest, I just don't care about much today. I have stuff to do on some cases, but I just don't have the motivation. Don't care.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:05:41am |
re: #338 coquimbojoe
Yes, "new" as I am here, I'm well aware of Charles' position.
Couldn't agree more.
My tossed-in rant-of-the-morning was probably symbolically directed more at my late paternal grandmother. (you don' wanna know)
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:05:55am |
re: #338 coquimbojoe
Sorry, guano is the crap collected for the rich phosphate content for fertilizer.
Carl: I fear obama will make Carter look like a superstar. I cannot stand Carter, I do not believe he accomplish anything of value, but I do believe that he thought he was working for peace. I think he was misguided, but not, perhaps, devious and nefarious (recent actions prove he is now though). Obama is committed to deconstructionism on a grand scale. He is happily breaking things and endangering us all.
Pre Boomer, Charles never has seemed to be anti-God. He IS certainly against flawed arguments masquerading as science. I am religious too, but I would prefer that faith stays out of the classroom. If we teach any type of creationism, whose version are we gonna give? Mormon, Jewish, Baptist, Hindus? Will we have our children told its turtles all the way down? I will raise my children up to honor God and His son Jesus Christ. I do not need some government functionary training them in psuedo religious 'science'. I will handle the faith part and correct at home anything I feel needs to be corrected.
Obama will probably make Carter look like Teddy Roosevelt.
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abaleh Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:06:51am |
re: #329 Carl in Jerusalem
I can tell you that here there's a good chance that the government will end up trying to ape it.
Unless Bibi can hold them off.
But he promised lower taxes )-;
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:07:22am |
re: #340 Wyatt Earp
More or less. At work today fighting sleep, but to be honest, I just don't care about much today. I have stuff to do on some cases, but I just don't have the motivation. Don't care.
{Wyatt} manly hug
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:08:21am |
re: #345 pre-Boomer Marine brat
{Wyatt} manly hug
Thanks, sir. I'll be back to normal in a few days. Coming here helps.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:10:50am |
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:11:16am |
re: #346 Wyatt Earp
Sorry to hear about your distress Wyatt. Hope the unwinding occurs fast and stuff gets back to normal.
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:11:32am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:12:27am |
re: #346 Wyatt Earp
Thanks, sir. I'll be back to normal in a few days. Coming here helps.
For what it's worth, yesterday when you wrote that you knew it was bottled up, and that that worried you ... I immediately saw that as a positive. Better that than getting blindsided.
/you'll deal with it ... (-:
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:12:37am |
Mostly headed out now all I may still lurk but shift getting close to over and I'm still stuffing envelopes.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:12:50am |
re: #349 Rustler
Sorry to hear about your distress Wyatt. Hope the unwinding occurs fast and stuff gets back to normal.
Thanks. Funeral arrangements haven't beeen set yet, but it'll probably be later this week. Tomorrow will be tough, because there will be more people in the division. Today, we just have the TV cameras across the street to deal with.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:13:56am |
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:14:33am |
re: #351 pre-Boomer Marine brat
For what it's worth, yesterday when you wrote that you knew it was bottled up, and that that worried you ... I immediately saw that as a positive. Better that than getting blindsided.
/you'll deal with it ... (-:
I know. My son's first birthday was yesterday, and we had a group celebration for my boys - they all have Jan/Feb birthdays. I laughed a lot with the family, so it could be worse.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:15:01am |
re: #354 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Make sure Mandy sees that!
Can you get one for her wholesale?
Perfect for long-range WHACKS!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:16:24am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:17:54am |
re: #355 Wyatt Earp
I know. My son's first birthday was yesterday, and we had a group celebration for my boys - they all have Jan/Feb birthdays. I laughed a lot with the family, so it could be worse.
I saw your boy's photo yesterday.
What a GRIN!
A son to be proud of.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:18:10am |
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:18:58am |
re: #359 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I saw your boy's photo yesterday.
What a GRIN!
A son to be proud of.
Thanks! He'll be walking any day now, and probably asking me for money soon afterward. :)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:19:04am |
re: #357 Rustler
Did she break the Clue x 4?
No, but that hook could sure rip off a slab of troll meat, couldn't it?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:19:45am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:20:22am |
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:20:58am |
re: #363 Wyatt Earp
Love the deluxe model add ins Logic nail and targetting laser.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:21:11am |
re: #331 Proud to be an Infidel
Many stories and parables written in the Bible, I believe, were written and inspired for simple minds to understand. Especially when we're talking about cultures thousands and thousands of years ago. The idea of a spherical earth going around the sun would have completely thrown them off causing them to miss the whole point of the story!
Yes, every writer aims for certain audiences. To think that the bronze-age people in the near-east could have (or would have) accepted any description of the universe at all similar to what we understand from science today... would be a misplaced effort. They had neither the language or mathematics to even begin to understand it. It would be many centuries after Moses before the Greeks had figured out basic geometry and deduced the Earth was a sphere.
Oh, and I believe you are confusing Copernicus and Galileo. Galileo did show (with his improved telescope) that Jupiter has its own moons, therefore confirming what Copernicus had claimed - that the Earth is not the center of the universe (everything doesn't revolve around us.) Galileo got in trouble with the Vatican but some of that is attributed to Galileo's general rebellious nature, not necessarily the science.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:21:43am |
I been floating this out but have not received any reply yet.
Maher was on Larry King, doing what he does best. He did go off on a spiel about how good the stimulus was;
So I think what Obama has to do is adjust to that. And this is part of that learning process. And I think he probably shouldn't have offered so much, for example, in the stimulus package right away. He offered what they wanted -- the tax cuts, which really are not stimulus. And he should have said from the beginning, look, I won the election, OK? We're going do it my way now. We tried that idea -- that tax cuts solve every problem. We had that. And that's what got us into this mess.
Yes, people disagree. Scientists don't disagree on evolution. There's a consensus among scientists, just as there's a consensus, really, among economists now that the government has to spend a lot of money.
So the government has to spend a lot of money since this will generate economic activity. When businesses or consumers does this, it's called supply side economics, no?
So, why is it that the vast majority of stimulus supporters, who happen to be leftist or liberal and have demonized supply side economics at every chance they get, support the stimulus?
Nobody has hammered them for this serious hypocrisy, at least not that I've seen.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:22:11am |
re: #361 Wyatt Earp
Thanks! He'll be walking any day now, and probably asking me for money soon afterward. :)
And for the keys to the car.
/gotta keep that handsome dude away from my granddaughters
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:23:18am |
re: #3 alexa kim
Sorry, but neither evolution nor divine creation offends me. They just don't.
You don't have to apologize.
Good Sunday Morning from SW MI, all!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:25:40am |
re: #371 Taqiyyotomist
You don't have to apologize.
Good Sunday Morning from SW MI, all!
Morning, Taq! There might be some fruit cup left, but it's probably only a few pieces of honeydew.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:26:35am |
re: #372 Wyatt Earp
Have you heard anything lately about the $20,000,000.00 for the zoo?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:26:53am |
re: #372 Wyatt Earp
Morning, Taq! There might be some fruit cup left, but it's probably only a few pieces of honeydew.
Sweet! Those being the best pieces! (Long as they're not the crrruncchy melon from GFS.) :)
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:26:57am |
re: #371 Taqiyyotomist
You don't have to apologize.
Good Sunday Morning from SW MI, all!
I Survived the Tornado of 1980....but don't have a tee shirt
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:27:24am |
re: #373 MandyManners
Have you heard anything lately about the $20,000,000.00 for the zoo?
No, but the shooting has been the top story on the news the past two days. I still think that is an absolute disgrace. I mean, my kids love the zoo, but come on!
Morning, by the way!
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:28:13am |
re: #369 bigpapa
I been floating this out but have not received any reply yet.
Maher was on Larry King, doing what he does best. He did go off on a spiel about how good the stimulus was;
So I think what Obama has to do is adjust to that. And this is part of that learning process. And I think he probably shouldn't have offered so much, for example, in the stimulus package right away. He offered what they wanted -- the tax cuts, which really are not stimulus. And he should have said from the beginning, look, I won the election, OK? We're going do it my way now. We tried that idea -- that tax cuts solve every problem. We had that. And that's what got us into this mess.
Yes, people disagree. Scientists don't disagree on evolution. There's a consensus among scientists, just as there's a consensus, really, among economists now that the government has to spend a lot of money.
So the government has to spend a lot of money since this will generate economic activity. When businesses or consumers does this, it's called supply side economics, no?
So, why is it that the vast majority of stimulus supporters, who happen to be leftist or liberal and have demonized supply side economics at every chance they get, support the stimulus?
Nobody has hammered them for this serious hypocrisy, at least not that I've seen.
I agree with you 100%. I think some of the problem is that this is a complex idea that takes a significant amount of logic and brain power to process. Its easy to blame someone for a problem rather than take the sometimes confusing steps necessary to get to a desirable outcome. Leftists demonize and get the "dumb masses" behind them with feelings of jealousy, wealth envy and fear.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:29:58am |
re: #377 bellamags
I agree with you 100%. I think some of the problem is that this is a complex idea that takes a significant amount of logic and brain power to process. Its easy to blame someone for a problem rather than take the sometimes confusing steps necessary to get to a desirable outcome. Leftists demonize and get the "dumb masses" behind them with feelings of jealousy, wealth envy and fear.
Tax cuts got us into this mess? Maher must be overmedicating again.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:31:04am |
re: #376 Wyatt Earp
No, but the shooting has been the top story on the news the past two days. I still think that is an absolute disgrace. I mean, my kids love the zoo, but come on!
Morning, by the way!
What shooting?
Good morning to you, too.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:31:12am |
re: #369 bigpapa
Governments are meant to do things that private citizens are not. Like own property for example, or make choices in their life.
No hypocrisy in the stance of praising the government for doing something while decrying private citizens for doing the same.
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:31:27am |
re: #378 Wyatt Earp
Tax cuts got us into this mess? Maher must be overmedicating again.
It sounds good, doesn't it?
Those evil rich people got tax cuts, so I'm suffering!
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:31:33am |
re: #375 albusteve
Me too! I was under a couch. The KZoo Cat 3 spun off another one that went through my town, Watervliet, and laid waste to my little neighborhood. Ours was one of the houses that didn't get a scratch, bikes still standing on their kickstands in the driveway. I think the dealer-tag got knocked off the back of the family Chevette.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:32:20am |
re: #379 MandyManners
What shooting?
Good morning to you, too.
Oh, sorry. We lost one of our own on Friday night. Worked in my building.
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Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:32:34am |
re: #326 Rustler
Hopefully everyone else will see this as an example of what not to do or the world is in for some tough times.
Unfortunately the Australian government has followed the US lead and passed a $A42 billion stimulus package and will spend an extra $A200 billion over the next 3-4 years.
The only difference is there is less "pork" in the Australian package.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:33:31am |
re: #381 bellamags
It sounds good, doesn't it?
Those evil rich people got tax cuts, so I'm suffering!
I am not rich by any means, but I do okay. That being said, I do not envy the rich. Most of them earned their money by working very hard.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:34:02am |
re: #385 Taqiyyotomist
Damn, Wyatt. My condolences.
Thank you. Our 7th line of duty death in two years. The second from my building.
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:34:51am |
re: #383 Wyatt Earp
Oh, sorry. We lost one of our own on Friday night. Worked in my building.
Sorry to hear that. Just terrible.
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n in wi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:35:34am |
re: #369 bigpapa
"So the government has to spend a lot of money since this will generate economic activity. When businesses or consumers does this, it's called supply side economics, no? "
And, money spent by businesses,or the consumer has the market discipline of penalizing bad decisions. Government spending does not.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:35:51am |
re: #388 bellamags
Sorry to hear that. Just terrible.
Thanks, Bella. Comes with the job, but you never get used to it.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:36:35am |
re: #382 Taqiyyotomist
Me too! I was under a couch. The KZoo Cat 3 spun off another one that went through my town, Watervliet, and laid waste to my little neighborhood. Ours was one of the houses that didn't get a scratch, bikes still standing on their kickstands in the driveway. I think the dealer-tag got knocked off the back of the family Chevette.
my dad was born in Hartford...actually I had been fishing near Delton and came back after it hit...I almost cried when I saw the huge ancient trees knocked over in Bronson Park...that right there was an epic disaster to me
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:36:46am |
re: #380 Scion9
No hypocrisy in the stance of praising the government for doing something while decrying private citizens for doing the same.
That's no hypocrisy, that's Marxism distilled.
I've done some more searching and found leftist illogic that the Repubs are voting against the largest tax cut in history. Funny, I thought that the $500B in spending, not the $280B in tax cuts, were what the Repubs were voting against. Do you have to try and be this ignorant?
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:37:15am |
re: #386 Wyatt Earp
I am not rich by any means, but I do okay. That being said, I do not envy the rich. Most of them earned their money by working very hard.
yes I agree. I also understand that when the rich have more money, they spend it on goods and services, hire new employees (if they are business owners), and invest.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:37:26am |
re: #383 Wyatt Earp
Oh, sorry. We lost one of our own on Friday night. Worked in my building.
Dang! He was just a baby! Wasn't he wearing a Kevlar vest?
Seven in two years must be nerve-wracking for the department. I'm sorry for ya'll's losses. I don't know a lot about big-city policing but, is seven in two years high?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:37:33am |
re: #387 Wyatt Earp
I wish that the folks in the city would quit the religious idol-worship of people with names like Nas, Diddy, Dogg, The Game, Chingy (?~!), and Young Boosy.
The hood makes me sad. Great heaping piles of deception.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:37:46am |
re: #384 Crux Australis
The only difference is there is less "pork" in the Australian package.
Bastards. Your government bending over for the Muslims again.
/
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:38:29am |
re: #393 bellamags
yes I agree. I also understand that when the rich have more money, they spend it on goods and services, hire new employees (if they are business owners), and invest.
Agreed. And they pay their fair share of taxes. Why should they pay above and beyond when so many others don't pay any.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:40:21am |
re: #394 MandyManners A lot of times vests ren't worn on patrols they are bulky heavy and uncomfortable. Usually they are kept in the vehicle in case a call is made in which hte vest might be needed but I'm betting he was passing in his patrol car and saw the altercation taking place. Since the News story only states 1 driver was going to call not had called 911.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:40:32am |
re: #394 MandyManners
Dang! He was just a baby! Wasn't he wearing a Kevlar vest?
Seven in two years must be nerve-wracking for the department. I'm sorry for ya'll's losses. I don't know a lot about big-city policing but, is seven in two years high?
He was. He took the round right under the neck, just above the vest. The shooter was also wearing a vest. We shot him seven times and it looks like the bastard is going to live. Figures.
And yes, seven in two years is extremely high, even for Philadelphia.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:41:09am |
re: #397 Wyatt Earp
Agreed. And they pay their fair share of taxes. Why should they pay above and beyond when so many others don't pay any.
they shouldn't...to be forced to by law is ironically criminal...
I hate the feds
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:42:16am |
re: #393 bellamags
yes I agree. I also understand that when the rich have more money, they spend it on goods and services, hire new employees (if they are business owners), and invest.
I live supply side economics: I work directly for the wealthiest of the wealthy. The economic activity generated by the construction of one of their monster homes is staggering. I've told more than one of them: if it wasn't for people like them, I'd have to get a real job!
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:42:38am |
re: #391 albusteve
I think I was 9. Thinking back, it seems like I was younger, but I guess not. My mom said she saw, in her mind's eye, a ring of 40-foot tall angels standing around the house, protecting it. I remember our biggest scare, the lady across the street, who was alone, came (during the thing!) knocking on our back door, loudly. All four of us nearly crapped ourselves. Really tiny house, and I do mean tiny. Maybe the sq. footage of a big RV/Travel trailer. She lived on the lake-side (Paw Paw) of the road, in a big sturdy house, and somehow (she knew we were Christians) thought that it would be safer with us. Crazy morning.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:43:05am |
re: #399 Wyatt Earp
Ouch saw this right after I had posted my reply to Mandy. Has vest use gone up recently in Philly or is the problem with Officers sitting on their vests more oriented towards southern states?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:43:14am |
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:43:41am |
re: #397 Wyatt Earp
Agreed. And they pay their fair share of taxes. Why should they pay above and beyond when so many others don't pay any.
I own a small business and this month, my payroll "contributions" (taxes) were so high, that I could have hired another part-time worker with the money I "contributed"
Here is the definition of contribute: To give or supply in common with others; give to a common fund or for a common purpose.
Sounds warm and fuzzy, no?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:43:45am |
re: #398 Rustler
A lot of times vests ren't worn on patrols they are bulky heavy and uncomfortable. Usually they are kept in the vehicle in case a call is made in which hte vest might be needed but I'm betting he was passing in his patrol car and saw the altercation taking place. Since the News story only states 1 driver was going to call not had called 911.
When I got out of the Academy in 1995, the things were like a suit of armor. Really heavy and really uncomfortable. The one I have now is fantastic. The city found us vests that are lightweight, but offer great protection.
I onyl wear mine when I go on a call, but being a detective, I am usually in the division. Before I was promoted, I always wore it. My partner said she would kick my ass if I didn't - and since she was always a better shot than me, I listened. :)
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:44:14am |
re: #398 Rustler
A lot of times vests ren't worn on patrols they are bulky heavy and uncomfortable. Usually they are kept in the vehicle in case a call is made in which hte vest might be needed but I'm betting he was passing in his patrol car and saw the altercation taking place. Since the News story only states 1 driver was going to call not had called 911.
In a city as violent as Philadelphia seems to be, patrolmen should wear their vests at all times.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:45:19am |
re: #403 Rustler
Ouch saw this right after I had posted my reply to Mandy. Has vest use gone up recently in Philly or is the problem with Officers sitting on their vests more oriented towards southern states?
Most of the officers in my division wear theirs - primarilyy because they are fairly comfortable, considering. Old timers never wore them, but the kids - who usually think they are invincible - are wearing them more often now, too. It's a good thing.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:45:58am |
Wyatt, my thoughts are with you. I see Philly, cops shot, and I get mad thinking about you know who... grrrr.....
7 cops in two years=something is seriously wrong there.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:46:12am |
re: #399 Wyatt Earp
He was. He took the round right under the neck, just above the vest. The shooter was also wearing a vest. We shot him seven times and it looks like the bastard is going to live. Figures.
And yes, seven in two years is extremely high, even for Philadelphia.
Wow. An unlucky shot. Could the shooter have aimed for that spot?
Wait a minute. The criminal was wearing a vest? Was he planning on getting into a shoot-out?
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:46:24am |
re: #401 BigPapa
I live supply side economics: I work directly for the wealthiest of the wealthy. The economic activity generated by the construction of one of their monster homes is staggering. I've told more than one of them: if it wasn't for people like them, I'd have to get a real job!
Yes, great example. And when they get tired and sore from picking out all their new stuff, they come to me for some massage therapy (and a chemical peel or tanning) They gotta look and feel good for their housewarming parties!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:46:44am |
re: #409 BigPapa
Wyatt, my thoughts are with you. I see Philly, cops shot, and I get mad thinking about you know who... grrrr.....
7 cops in two years=something is seriously wrong there.
Yes, He Who Shall Not Be Named. Most of us have accepted the fact that he will die in prison of natural causes. What are ya gonna do?
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:47:43am |
re: #402 Taqiyyotomist
I think I was 9. Thinking back, it seems like I was younger, but I guess not. My mom said she saw, in her mind's eye, a ring of 40-foot tall angels standing around the house, protecting it. I remember our biggest scare, the lady across the street, who was alone, came (during the thing!) knocking on our back door, loudly. All four of us nearly crapped ourselves. Really tiny house, and I do mean tiny. Maybe the sq. footage of a big RV/Travel trailer. She lived on the lake-side (Paw Paw) of the road, in a big sturdy house, and somehow (she knew we were Christians) thought that it would be safer with us. Crazy morning.
I had no idea Watervliet was hit...a little village like that could easily vanish altogether...you and your neighbors are very fortunate...I only saw the damage in Kzoo and it was quite alrming
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:47:52am |
And, Mayor Nutter wants to reduce the force by half?! Does he LIKE attending the funerals of cops? If so, he's gonna' love what that reduction likely will do to his list of official duties.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:47:58am |
re: #410 MandyManners
Wow. An unlucky shot. Could the shooter have aimed for that spot?
Wait a minute. The criminal was wearing a vest? Was he planning on getting into a shoot-out?
Yes. He told the man he was arguing with that if he called 911, he was going to kill the cops. The guy had a gun in his jacket pocket, and fired through the coat. John never saw the gun, but kept ordering him to take his hands out of his pockets.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:48:22am |
re: #408 Wyatt Earp
Ahh that's a good thing. I know in Texas and southern NM while I was living there the Departments were catching a lot of flak about the Vest expenditures when the public never saw em in use. Then again the PD in Cruces was wearing vest more uncomfortable than our military issue vest with ceramic plates attached.
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:48:28am |
re: #401 BigPapa
If it wasn't for people like them, my town (South Haven) would be a ghost town. As would a few thousand other Outside-The-City getaway towns, around every major city. Ski resorts. Vegas. All that. Our town triples in population in the summer. More boats than cars in the summer. Boaters aren't what one would call the poorfolk. When (usually young) people complain about all the tourists and Chicagoans (God bless 'em!) I say, "You better be thankful, and treat 'em like the Islanders in the Caribbean treat the tourists, with deference and nice and how can I help you! because they're our lifeblood."
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:48:35am |
re: #399 Wyatt Earp
He was. He took the round right under the neck, just above the vest. The shooter was also wearing a vest. We shot him seven times and it looks like the bastard is going to live. Figures.
And yes, seven in two years is extremely high, even for Philadelphia.
Not if I were a hospital worker there! Pull a tube here,,,, unplug a machibe there ,,,,,, OOOPPSSS
//just sayin!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:49:46am |
re: #414 MandyManners
And, Mayor Nutter wants to reduce the force by half?! Does he LIKE attending the funerals of cops? If so, he's gonna' love what that reduction likely will do to his list of official duties.
He will still be re-elected in a landslide. We've had 60+ years of uninterrupted Democrat rule. Besides, most of my fellow citizens don't care. They hate our guts. You should see some of the comments on the local news websites about the shooting. Pretty vile stuff.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:50:03am |
re: #411 bellamags
Just about every client has massage personnel that come to their homes. Your business and mine will never be outsourced to India.
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:50:33am |
re: #413 albusteve
I had no idea Watervliet was hit...a little village like that could easily vanish altogether...you and your neighbors are very fortunate...I only saw the damage in Kzoo and it was quite alrming
Yeah that storm was nuts. The big supertornado in KZoo spun off, IIRC, a whole lot more tornadoes which went in all different directions. Yes, we were quite surprised too.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:51:09am |
re: #418 sattv4u2
Not if I were a hospital worker there! Pull a tube here,,,, unplug a machibe there ,,,,,, OOOPPSSS
//just sayin!
The hospital (Albert Einstein medical Center) is a top-notch trauma center. They do their jobs well, and while wishful thinking is nice, we can't be angry at them for saving this toad.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:51:19am |
re: #418 sattv4u2 //No sir. I have absolutely no idea how that air bubble got into the IV tube. I'm really sorry he died as a result but we were rushing to save his life at the time.
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:51:25am |
re: #420 BigPapa
Just about every client has massage personnel that come to their homes. Your business and mine will never be outsourced to India.
HA! nope.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:52:43am |
Got tired of stuffing envelopes and Wyatt's story gave me an excuse to chat instead of lurk.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:53:15am |
re: #425 Rustler
Got tired of stuffing envelopes and Wyatt's story gave me an excuse to chat instead of lurk.
Sorry for the bring down. Didn't mean to depress everyone on a Sunday.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:53:39am |
re: #415 Wyatt Earp
Yes. He told the man he was arguing with that if he called 911, he was going to kill the cops. The guy had a gun in his jacket pocket, and fired through the coat. John never saw the gun, but kept ordering him to take his hands out of his pockets.
If he had a death with, why was he wearing a vest?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:54:24am |
re: #422 Wyatt Earp
The hospital (Albert Einstein medical Center) is a top-notch trauma center. They do their jobs well, and while wishful thinking is nice, we can't be angry at them for saving this toad.
I'm sure they are, and would never infer that they would do anything nefareous
ME, on the othre hand,,,,,,,,, !
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:54:32am |
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:55:00am |
Has everyone here viewed the rants by Machosauceproduction at youtube?
This man needs 'hood exposure. Bigtime.
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bp sf Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:55:01am |
Sooner than later Philly will be one big orange glow in the night sky with all the fire houses shit head Nutter is closing.
Philly was the home of the insurgents in the late 1700's; what's changed?
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:55:25am |
re: #417 Taqiyyotomist
If it wasn't for people like them, my town (South Haven) would be a ghost town. As would a few thousand other Outside-The-City getaway towns, around every major city. Ski resorts. Vegas. All that. Our town triples in population in the summer. More boats than cars in the summer. Boaters aren't what one would call the poorfolk. When (usually young) people complain about all the tourists and Chicagoans (God bless 'em!) I say, "You better be thankful, and treat 'em like the Islanders in the Caribbean treat the tourists, with deference and nice and how can I help you! because they're our lifeblood."
I spent many a day in SH...as fine a little resort town as any I know of in the whole Great Lakes region...my sister and her husband keep their 28' Danzi over there...and I personally have spent a small fortune on the Idler!...yep
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:55:36am |
re: #422 Wyatt Earp
Nope they did their job. Doctors don't have the luxury of letting a scumbag die on hteir watch without trying to save em. Was the vest purchased legally(I doubt it was)? Pa. doesn't have death penalty for cop killers does it?
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:55:55am |
re: #419 Wyatt Earp
He will still be re-elected in a landslide. We've had 60+ years of uninterrupted Democrat rule. Besides, most of my fellow citizens don't care. They hate our guts. You should see some of the comments on the local news websites about the shooting. Pretty vile stuff.
Part of me thinks the sites' administrators should delete that crap. OTOH, it reminds the cops of the kind of assholes they're protecting.
Whatever happened to the City of Brotherly Love? Wouldn't our Founders be disgusted?
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:56:30am |
re: #430 Taqiyyotomist
Has everyone here viewed the rants by Machosauceproduction at youtube?
This man needs 'hood exposure. Bigtime.
I've seen his stuff. He is spot - on.
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:56:40am |
re: #432 albusteve
Well, maybe we can knock a few (a very few) back this summer, find a few more local Lizards.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:56:54am |
re: #426 Wyatt Earp
Didn't bring me down except another thug has killed another public servant. Stuffing envelopes isn't to fun as stiff as my fingers get and I'd much rather hear updates on what is gonna happen to the little prick.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:57:04am |
re: #431 bp sf
Sooner than later Philly will be one big orange glow in the night sky with all the fire houses shit head Nutter is closing.
Philly was the home of the insurgents in the late 1700's; what's changed?
Well, one of the closed fire stations is the one Ben Franklin founded. How's that for historical irony?
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:57:25am |
re: #429 Wyatt Earp
Because he's a pu**y?
I wonder what kind of psychological history he has.
I'm not suggesting an insanity defense 'cause he set it up and took precautions. I'm just wondering if he's nuts.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:58:05am |
re: #436 Taqiyyotomist
Well, maybe we can knock a few (a very few) back this summer, find a few more local Lizards.
not likely...I'm in New Mexico
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:58:15am |
re: #433 Rustler
Nope they did their job. Doctors don't have the luxury of letting a scumbag die on hteir watch without trying to save em. Was the vest purchased legally(I doubt it was)? Pa. doesn't have death penalty for cop killers does it?
We do, but Ed Rendell never enforces it. He has a thing about not signing death warrants.
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:59:25am |
Good Morning y'all - from a coldish (39 degrees, going up to 55 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 5:59:40am |
re: #439 MandyManners
As nuts as a culture of bling, hiphop, intentional de-education, and community organizers' ceaseless efforts over three generations can make someone, I guess.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:00:24am |
re: #442 Genexer
No it's still a political blog. Primarily focusing on idiotarians.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:00:42am |
re: #430 Taqiyyotomist
Has everyone here viewed the rants by Machosauceproduction at youtube?
This man needs 'hood exposure. Bigtime.
"And I can pump it, pump it, pump it, pump it, pump it baby!"
ROFLMAO!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:00:46am |
re: #434 MandyManners
Part of me thinks the sites' administrators should delete that crap. OTOH, it reminds the cops of the kind of assholes they're protecting.
Whatever happened to the City of Brotherly Love? Wouldn't our Founders be disgusted?
Yesterday, two officers brought a guy in for retail theft. the guy became irate and started asking why he was locked up. When the officer tried to calm him down, he stood up and yelled, "This is why you f**king white boys are gettin' shot!"
True story.
Mind you, he yelled that in the district where Officer Pawlowski died twelve hours earlier. The fact that the man was not touched says a great deal about my fellow officers.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:01:31am |
re: #431 bp sf
Sooner than later Philly will be one big orange glow in the night sky with all the fire houses shit head Nutter is closing.
Philly was the home of the insurgents in the late 1700's; what's changed?
The criminals are now the insurgents.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:01:43am |
re: #441 Wyatt Earp
Bah and Rendell is another asshole you won't be able to dump. How long can stuff like this go on before every decent human living in Philly just up and leaves. Leave the thugs in philly and let them fight it out for dominance the way things stand now I can't say I'd mourn if all decent law abiding citizens abandoned the town enmass and came back in a few years to clean up the mess and arrest whats left.
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:01:54am |
re: #442 Genexer
Huh
Registered since: Apr 3, 2007 at 7:04 pm
(Logged in)No. of comments posted: 17
No. of links posted: 0
Recent comments
Geez, I gotta admit that you sleepers are GOOD at what you do.
But yes, this now become an evolution blog with a few political threads.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:02:01am |
re: #433 Rustler
Nope they did their job. Doctors don't have the luxury of letting a scumbag die on hteir watch without trying to save em. Was the vest purchased legally(I doubt it was)? Pa. doesn't have death penalty for cop killers does it?
It is illegal for citizens to own Kevlar vests?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:02:50am |
re: #442 Genexer
No. Besides, you can avoid those threads if you like. I usually do. I avoid the tech threads, too. You do know this used to be a tech-blog with some bicycles on the side, right? If you're offended by what Charles has to post on the matter, as, for some reason many are, you might want to think about why.
Hint: the issue has nothing to do with religion or Christianity.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:02:58am |
re: #442 Genexer
It's a political blog when states try to make religion part of politics we speak up on it.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:03:16am |
DRUGS ARE AWESOME! Socialized healthcare sucks.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:03:34am |
re: #442 Genexer
Click LGF Headlines in the upper left. There are 10 recent headlines there. 2 of them dealt with "combative creationist/evolution".
20% is a low percentage for your claim that "this now become an evolution blog with a few political threads?"
AND ,, you can always opt to sit those thread out and either A) wait for a new one or B) hang out in a dead one till a new one comes along!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:03:37am |
re: #452 MandyManners
It is illegal for citizens to own Kevlar vests?
No. But even if it were, it's not like people like Scrugs would abide.
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:04:21am |
re: #446 MandyManners
LOL! I hope the man's message gets out there, where it's needed. For me and you and most here, he's preaching to the choir.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:04:22am |
re: #449 Rustler
Bah and Rendell is another asshole you won't be able to dump. How long can stuff like this go on before every decent human living in Philly just up and leaves. Leave the thugs in philly and let them fight it out for dominance the way things stand now I can't say I'd mourn if all decent law abiding citizens abandoned the town enmass and came back in a few years to clean up the mess and arrest whats left.
City workers have to live in the city. That's the only reason Philly has a tax base at all.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:04:36am |
re: #452 MandyManners
Not for citizens but Vests if I remember right are covered like fires arms and illegal for felons to own, plus require licencing.
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:04:53am |
re: #450 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt - your mayor certainly lives up to his name, ya know?
WTF this is all political gamesmanship on his part and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. But some people - some of them very good people - are gonna DIE because of his gamesmanship.
I wonder if any fire stations near hizzonors home have been closed or scheduled to be closed?!
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Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:05:39am |
re: #460 Rustler
Not for citizens but Vests if I remember right are covered like fires arms and illegal for felons to own, plus require licencing.
Good morning lizards.
Sounds like Genexer just doesn't understand why this is an important issue.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:06:02am |
re: #461 albusteve
I don't recall seeing you here on the political threads...it is what it is...ID is poloitics these days
18 total posts ,,,,,, can't recall seeing it on ANY threads!
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bp sf Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:06:05am |
#447
Wyatt, that is amazing restraint. Those cops must have been vibrating with the urge to kill.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:07:21am |
re: #462 realwest
Howdy Wyatt - your mayor certainly lives up to his name, ya know?
WTF this is all political gamesmanship on his part and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. But some people - some of them very good people - are gonna DIE because of his gamesmanship.
I wonder if any fire stations near hizzonors home have been closed or scheduled to be closed?!
None. Not one of them in his neighborhood. Every closed station was in a primarily white neighborhood, too. I don't want to accuse Nutter of racism, but facts are facts.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:07:42am |
re: #463 Genexer
Like we said tho Charles posts it because states are passing this type of legislation. And any posts on Evolution on the 12th probably should count as it was Darwin's bithday and we were celebrating his contributions to the modern world.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:08:07am |
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:08:17am |
re: #466 sattv4u2
Good morning - see my #451 - just another shit stirrer.
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:08:26am |
good morning lizards!
How is everyone doing this fine day?
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wahabicorridor Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:08:36am |
re: #463 Genexer
So go away already.
Man, there was NUTHIN in the morning papers. There was one wack job in WaPo advocating nationalization of the banks, that's about it on the entertainment value front. Not even any decent books reviewed - ok one on Darwin.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:08:37am |
re: #467 bp sf
#447
Wyatt, that is amazing restraint. Those cops must have been vibrating with the urge to kill.
Yep, but if we did that, we are no better than the thugs. Although, a lot of people think we are one in the same anymore . . .
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:09:48am |
re: #463 Genexer
Complaining about it in the forum will get you nowhere here. Just saying. I had a chip on my shoulder about it a few months ago, then I decided I was wrong about the issue, after much persuasion and much thought.
Question:
Genexer, do you want schools to be able to teach Islamic science? You do know they believe that the devil lives in the back of the nose cavity, right? Do you realize they believe that the human gestation period can be up to 3 years? That is what is at stake here. It won't just be a Christian viewpoint that is pushed in science class, but all the others, too. Including the backward 7th century beliefs of barbarians.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:09:53am |
re: #442 Genexer
Maybe try the other threads, ya think? You must be a 6,000er.
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Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:09:57am |
re: #469 Wishing
Hon, this is not about *religion*.
This is about a group of people trying to circumvent the Constitution.
What's a constitution?
Where in the constitution does the government get the power to buy BANKS and HOUSES and CAR MANUFACTURERS?
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:10:02am |
re: #442 Genexer
You might want to look at the links the DI has to those groups that want a theocracy in America. Use the search function at the top to look up "dominionists".
The information is here, Genexer. You really should look for it. Unless you're someone who wants a theocracy in America, the information you find will freak you out.
Also, the DI is buddies with a Muslim scholar, Harun Yahya.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:10:28am |
re: #474 Genexer
To be clear, I never posted a lot here in the past. Just read and laughed at all the great snark.
I guess I'm trying to see if I should leave for good. So, I decided it would be fair to come out of the shadows and ask one final time.
don't be ridiculous....make up your own mind
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:10:43am |
re: #444 Taqiyyotomist
As nuts as a culture of bling, hiphop, intentional de-education, and community organizers' ceaseless efforts over three generations can make someone, I guess.
Was he on drugs?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:10:47am |
re: #466 sattv4u2
18 total posts ,,,,,, can't recall seeing it on ANY threads!
My mind was changed because people engaged me with meaningful dialogue and treated my nic as if I was a human with the capability of changing my mind.
NOT AN IT.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:11:35am |
re: #463 Genexer
2 out of 10 threads is still a lot IMHO.
Heh... that still leaves you with 8 out of 10 threads in which to contribute, if you so choose.
However, given that you already have a negative karma, and a search only brings up 2 posts from you, something tells me that you have posted more in the past... but perhaps they got deleted?
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:11:38am |
re: #470 Wyatt Earp
Well you certainly shouldn't accuse your mayor of racisim - I mean you work for the City. But I can and will. If no Fire Stations are closed around where he lives and if those stations which have been closed or are slated to close are all in White neighborhoods, then I'll call him a racist for you.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:11:38am |
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:11:48am |
re: #447 Wyatt Earp
Yesterday, two officers brought a guy in for retail theft. the guy became irate and started asking why he was locked up. When the officer tried to calm him down, he stood up and yelled, "This is why you f**king white boys are gettin' shot!"
True story.Mind you, he yelled that in the district where Officer Pawlowski died twelve hours earlier. The fact that the man was not touched says a great deal about my fellow officers.
Is there an investigation into this culture? I'm thinking that people are deliberately setting out to kill cops.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:12:03am |
re: #488 Taqiyyotomist
My mind was changed because people engaged me with meaningful dialogue and treated my nic as if I was a human with the capability of changing my mind.
NOT AN IT.
I use the "IT" instead of eithre A) typing he/she ,,, him/her or B) guessing whether it be male or female
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:12:38am |
re: #489 freetoken
Heh... that still leaves you with 8 out of 10 threads in which to contribute, if you so choose.
However, given that you already have a negative karma, and a search only brings up 2 posts from you, something tells me that you have posted more in the past... but perhaps they got deleted?
or under anoher nic
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:12:41am |
re: #474 Genexer
I answered you at #451 - I do think it's time you stopped coming here.
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:12:45am |
re: #476 realwest
Good morning - see my #451 - just another shit stirrer.
My mind was changed. Then again, maybe I was nicer about my disagreement. Genexer is not being a dick, far as I can tell. I'll say it again. My mind was changed on the issue. Then again, folks didn't pile on and call me an IT. They engaged me with debate and logic and "COME LET US REASON TOGETHER."
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Genexer Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:12:49am |
re: #480 Wishing
Ask if I should stay. If a conservative who did like this place but abhors the religious battles should stick around. This place changed a few months ago to a direction that was ugly to me. I'm asking if it was a blip or a new permanent feature.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:13:02am |
re: #477 HoosierHoops
good morning lizards!
How is everyone doing this fine day?
I am in the process of doing covert hardware mods to Cisco servers which will make all your troubleshooting efforts futile! Come tomorrow morning, you will bow to your new overlord!
/
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:13:06am |
re: #487 MandyManners
Was he on drugs?
The officers found close to twenty packets of crack cocaine in his pants pocket. He has been arrested for narcotics previously, and armed robbery.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:13:57am |
re: #492 MandyManners
Is there an investigation into this culture? I'm thinking that people are deliberately setting out to kill cops.
I believe that they are, but proving it would be difficult.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:13:59am |
Morning all, morning Realwest, Wyatt, Mandy...From the corrupt cesspool we call Illinois...
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:14:06am |
re: #489 freetoken
Good morning freetoken - please see my #451 - the two comments you're talking about were today.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:14:30am |
re: #502 Dustyvet
Morning all, morning Realwest, Wyatt, Mandy...From the corrupt cesspool we call Illinois...
Morning Dusty! Genexer wants to know if he should stick around.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:15:11am |
re: #504 Wyatt Earp
Morning Dusty! Genexer wants to know if he should stick around.
Oh, and what brought that on?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:15:42am |
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:15:49am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Realwest {darls} *Smooch* and it's raining here, and raining and raining....
It amazes me that people can come along and whinge about what's offered in the threads
It's not that hard, Genexer
If you don't like a thread, no one is forcing you to read it and hey, there's always the open threads if there is nothing that you fancy commenting on in the topical threads
Surely that's not too hard?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:16:28am |
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:16:43am |
re: #498 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I am in the process of doing covert hardware mods to Cisco servers which will make all your troubleshooting efforts futile! Come tomorrow morning, you will bow to your new overlord!
/
NNNNOOOOOoooooo!
RELEASE THE DOGS!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:16:56am |
re: #511 Wyatt Earp
HeShe doesn't like this "evolution blog."
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:16:58am |
re: #477 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops - I'm doing ok I guess, my good eye is bothering me some, but I can still see out of it ok. My "bad" eye - with which I have NEVER been able to read even the closed captions on a big screen TV is, naturally, just fine.
How are you doing?
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Genexer Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:17:36am |
re: #507 Wyatt Earp
I kind of already made up my mind but, this was a beloved website and thought I should at least tap on the door one last time before I wave it goodbye.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:17:40am |
I don't know if I can handle any more posts from people asking if they should stick around. I've been a member for (x) and I took some time off because I got sick of all the people complaining then asking if they should stick around. It seems that .027% of posts are people asking if they should leave, and I've had it.
Should I leave?
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:17:54am |
re: #507 Wyatt Earp
Sounds to me you already made up your mind. You are free to either stay or go, but LGF has not changed.
Hello, I must be going. I cannot stay, I came to say. I must be going...:)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:18:23am |
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:18:32am |
re: #478 wahabicorridor
Good morning {whahabi} How are you today? How was your Valentine's Day?
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:19:08am |
re: #469 Wishing
Hon, this is not about *religion*.
This is about a group of people trying to circumvent the Constitution.
That's the entire issue in one sentence.
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:19:52am |
I do get bothered, if you couldn't tell, by folks who assume, immediately, that a poster is unable to be reasoned with, or that, fuxxit, it's not worth it for one person, why attempt to change their mind, just lets pile on and pretend we know that it's an absolute fact that they are a troll and must be slapped around. Yeah people will tend to leave if that's the dialogue they're gonna get. Somehow it wasn't like that for me, I don't know why. Or maybe when I got slapped I didn't notice, and only took to heart and thought about those posts which DID convince me of the error of the ID crowd.
A lot of kneejerk reaction on both sides, I see.
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:19:56am |
re: #509 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Realwest {darls} *Smooch* and it's raining here, and raining and raining....
It amazes me that people can come along and whinge about what's offered in the threads
It's not that hard, Genexer
If you don't like a thread, no one is forcing you to read it and hey, there's always the open threads if there is nothing that you fancy commenting on in the topical threadsSurely that's not too hard?
Good morning love..How is monday looking? It's not the end of the world yet is it?
| 528 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:20:48am |
No really, I'm going to leave. Goodbye Cruel World.
| 529 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:21:15am |
re: #502 Dustyvet
Good morning Dusty! How are you today? How's Tiger doing?
| 530 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:21:33am |
re: #525 Taqiyyotomist
I do get bothered, if you couldn't tell, by folks who assume, immediately, that a poster is unable to be reasoned with, or that, fuxxit, it's not worth it for one person, why attempt to change their mind, just lets pile on and pretend we know that it's an absolute fact that they are a troll and must be slapped around. Yeah people will tend to leave if that's the dialogue they're gonna get. Somehow it wasn't like that for me, I don't know why. Or maybe when I got slapped I didn't notice, and only took to heart and thought about those posts which DID convince me of the error of the ID crowd.
A lot of kneejerk reaction on both sides, I see.
Shut up, Taq, you troll!
///
You mean dialogue like that? :)
| 531 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:21:35am |
re: #516 realwest
Good morning Hoops - I'm doing ok I guess, my good eye is bothering me some, but I can still see out of it ok. My "bad" eye - with which I have NEVER been able to read even the closed captions on a big screen TV is, naturally, just fine.
How are you doing?
Doing great..We are going to the first NASCAR party of the year today...
| 532 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:21:37am |
re: #525 Taqiyyotomist
I do get bothered, if you couldn't tell, by folks who assume, immediately, that a poster is unable to be reasoned with, or that, fuxxit, it's not worth it for one person, why attempt to change their mind, just lets pile on and pretend we know that it's an absolute fact that they are a troll and must be slapped around. Yeah people will tend to leave if that's the dialogue they're gonna get. Somehow it wasn't like that for me, I don't know why. Or maybe when I got slapped I didn't notice, and only took to heart and thought about those posts which DID convince me of the error of the ID crowd.
A lot of kneejerk reaction on both sides, I see.
I dont mind 'trolls' at all....it's a feature of the blog that is the realm of Charles
| 533 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:21:50am |
re: #524 Wishing
Honest Genex, this is NOT about religion at ALL.
How true, how true.
There are probably multiple reasons why this or that individual doesn't understand it.
| 534 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:21:59am |
re: #525 Taqiyyotomist
Slapped around? Naw. Toyed and toiled with, I'm guilty:)
| 535 |
Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:22:10am |
Genexer, listen, if you were told that someone was wanting to mess with the second amendment, wanting to undo the right we have to bear arms, would that bother you?
This is JUST that kind of issue, where a group of people is trying to get religion taught as science in schools. It is a HUGE issue.
The Constitution should not be messed with by anyone, l;et alone religion pretending to be science.
| 536 |
Genexer Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:22:31am |
re: #518 BigPapa
I don't know if I can handle any more posts from people asking if they should stick around. I've been a member for (x) and I took some time off because I got sick of all the people complaining then asking if they should stick around. It seems that .027% of posts are people asking if they should leave, and I've had it.
Should I leave?
Would you perhaps consider that this (lizards leaving) is actually a trend? Because I guess I fit in with exactly that. You see it as a conspiracy, that it's not really happening. It seems to me that this has happened a lot before and I'm not the only one who feels this way.
| 538 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:22:47am |
re: #527 MandyManners
STAY! If you research here, you'll learn a tremendous amount.
AMEN.
Hell, I GAZEd a post by Charles one time, on this issue. Seriously.. I typed:
#0 GAZE. on the thread. I was a dick about it. I had the same (false) view as Genexer here. She just ain't come around yet.
| 539 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:22:55am |
re: #531 HoosierHoops
Doing great..We are going to the first NASCAR party of the year today...
Would I lose your respect if I told you I was a Gordon fan?
| 541 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:23:19am |
re: #501 Wyatt Earp
I believe that they are, but proving it would be difficult.
That would be a fascinating investigation.
| 542 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:23:30am |
re: #509 aussiemagpie
Hey there {Maggie} *smooch* back atcaha! Sorry to hear about the rain, but at least it's not dry enough for fires, right?
BTW, have the fires all been put out now or are they still raging and have they released the name of the murderer who set those fires?
| 543 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:23:46am |
re: #534 BigPapa
Brushing on BBQ sauce is NOT toying. :)
| 545 |
Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:23:55am |
re: #540 Genexer
I see it that way.
Ok, which religion is it about? In contradistinction to what other religion?
| 546 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:24:42am |
re: #526 HoosierHoops
Good morning love..How is monday looking? It's not the end of the world yet is it?
Hi, HH darls
Not the end of the world yet, that comes in four years if Pres Obama doesn't stop climate change/goreball warming :-)
This rain however is going to cause flooding in my garage, as the drains just can't cope with this much water
| 547 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:24:45am |
re: #529 realwest
Good morning Dusty! How are you today? How's Tiger doing?
We both doing well, thanks...How you and your mom doing?
| 548 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:24:57am |
re: #536 Genexer
Would you perhaps consider that this (lizards leaving) is actually a trend? Because I guess I fit in with exactly that. You see it as a conspiracy, that it's not really happening. It seems to me that this has happened a lot before and I'm not the only one who feels this way.
and so . . . what?
It's Charles' blog. You have choices - you can skip the threads you don't like, or you can leave, or you can stay and participate, check out the many links provided on the topics discussed.
If you feel you must leave, then go. Stating that this has "happened a lot before", and that you're "not the only one who feels this way" isn't going to change things here.
It's Charles' blog, he will post what he wants.
| 549 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:25:29am |
re: #540 Genexer
Has nothing we've said to you this morning about preserving the First Amendment meant anything to you?
| 550 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:25:32am |
re: #536 Genexer
Genexer that was obviously sarc on BigPapa's part.
Yes, a whole lotta posters left, or became so rude that they were banned.
This is not about religion.
| 551 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:26:05am |
re: #517 Genexer
Well that was right thoughty of you! Waives back "Bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!"
| 552 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:26:05am |
re: #548 reine.de.tout
and so . . . what?
It's Charles' blog. You have choices - you can skip the threads you don't like, or you can leave, or you can stay and participate, check out the many links provided on the topics discussed.
If you feel you must leave, then go. Stating that this has "happened a lot before", and that you're "not the only one who feels this way" isn't going to change things here.
It's Charles' blog, he will post what he wants.
And with so many registered Lizards, of course there will be some turnover!
| 553 |
wahabicorridor Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:26:20am |
re: #521 realwest
Good morning {whahabi} How are you today? How was your Valentine's Day?
morning real! It was very nice. Spent a couple hours at our favorite restaurant eating, drinking, talking.
Kinda like real adults, ya know?
| 554 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:26:25am |
re: #540 Genexer
I see it that way.
you are intentionally blind then...you can understand the issue but need your own comfortable paradigm...I dont see much hope for your enlightenment with your attitude
| 555 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:26:56am |
re: #463 Genexer
Have you thought about starting your own blog?
| 556 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:26:56am |
re: #540 Genexer
I see it that way.
Genexer - consider this:
There aren't any "religious" battles.
The battle is not about "religion". The battle is whether or not the government should promote the teaching of some Dept of Education approved theology in schools, rather than parents providing religious education to their children, in the home and through their church of choice
| 557 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:27:46am |
Out for a smokey.
Genexer, it's your call. I found that staying was the better option. These are good folks here, and (for the most part) wise.
| 558 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:28:06am |
re: #474 Genexer
STAY! If you research here, you'll learn a tremendous amount.
| 559 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:28:08am |
re: #531 HoosierHoops
Doing great..We are going to the first NASCAR party of the year today...
AHA! I can post this now then
Marcos Ambrose, first Aussie to start (and finish hopefully) in the Daytona 500
My very favourite Aussie driver, a true blue champion :-)
| 560 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:28:20am |
re: #552 Wyatt Earp
And with so many registered Lizards, of course there will be some turnover!
I'm registered and certified...It's me, it's me it's me, it's Dusty V!
| 561 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:28:21am |
re: #548 reine.de.tout
{reine}
Ordered my cookbook yesterday!
Thanks for all your work, and everyone else's!
/just hoping Lulu doesn't ship a Komodo Dragon instead of the book
| 562 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:28:28am |
re: #539 Wyatt Earp
Would I lose your respect if I told you I was a Gordon fan?
Heck no...When it comes to millionaires racing in circles i always go for the underdog....
| 563 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:28:49am |
re: #497 Genexer
Should the fight to preserve the Constitution of the United States of America be a "blip"?
| 564 |
Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:29:06am |
re: #561 pre-Boomer Marine brat
{reine}
Ordered my cookbook yesterday!
Thanks for all your work, and everyone else's!/just hoping Lulu doesn't ship a Komodo Dragon instead of the book
LOL I ordered yesterday as well. Should I tremble til it arrives? lol
| 565 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:29:13am |
re: #562 HoosierHoops
Heck no...When it comes to millionaires racing in circles i always go for the underdog....
ROTFLOL!
| 566 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:29:21am |
re: #546 aussiemagpie
Hi, HH darls
Not the end of the world yet, that comes in four years if Pres Obama doesn't stop climate change/goreball warming :-)
This rain however is going to cause flooding in my garage, as the drains just can't cope with this much water
Is it raining where the fires are?
| 567 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:29:49am |
re: #483 Harry Tuttle
Where in the constitution does the government get the power to buy BANKS and HOUSES and CAR MANUFACTURERS?
Oh, its in there. You got a few centuries of jurisprudence to catch up on.
Here is a good place to start. This one is a good read too. Really just the tip of the iceberg. A layman's understanding of the constitution is irrelevant to the functioning of government.
| 568 |
n in wi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:30:20am |
| 569 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:30:33am |
re: #540 Genexer
Has nothing we've said about the encroachment of the Koran into our public schools meant nothing to you?
| 570 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:30:46am |
re: #560 Dustyvet
I'm registered and certified...It's me, it's me it's me, it's Dusty V!
As Wyatt said, ... turn over ... we've seen that side of you before.
(-:
| 571 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:31:01am |
re: #569 MandyManners
Has nothing we've said about the encroachment of the Koran into our public schools meant
nothinganything to you?
GAH!
| 573 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:31:38am |
re: #559 aussiemagpie
AHA! I can post this now then
Marcos Ambrose, first Aussie to start (and finish hopefully) in the Daytona 500
My very favourite Aussie driver, a true blue champion :-)
Ah cool..Now I got somebody to root for at the party...
| 574 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:31:56am |
Do you have kids, Genexer? Do you want the GOVERNMENT to teach them about religion?
| 575 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:32:00am |
re: #536 Genexer
Would you perhaps consider that this (lizards leaving) is actually a trend? Because I guess I fit in with exactly that. You see it as a conspiracy, that it's not really happening. It seems to me that this has happened a lot before and I'm not the only one who feels this way.
OK, on a serious note because I was playin. I don't see any conspiracy at all, or any trends other than this site keeps growing. You can log on or off any time, so the term 'leaving' means little other than making the statement 'I'm taking my ball and going home.'
Where is your information that supports your premise, that lizards are leaving due to the 'evolution' rhetoric? I suppose some would, but I would also suppose that they also believe, as you do, that the issue is about religion. It's not at all.
You can choose to not log in, or, choose to make statements about ID and how it's taken over LGF, and deal with the consequences of making those statements. There's nothing wrong with either. You can also continue the 'sigh, should I leave, I don't like all the ID/evolution BS (although it's only a small portion of it)' rhetoric, and you will be gently pilloried for it.
| 576 |
Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:32:05am |
| 577 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:32:08am |
re: #570 pre-Boomer Marine brat
As Wyatt said, ... turn over ... we've seen that side of you before.
(-:
Thweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeethp...:P
| 578 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:32:27am |
re: #525 Taqiyyotomist
HEY! This person had exactly 16 comments in two years before today. This is a pattern we've all seen out here before; folks who register, NEVER REALLY CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING and then announce that this blog is "X" or has changed to become "X" and then says it's leaving - usually with a more dramatic floursish I admit, but that could be due to a lack of imagination on Genexer's part.
I've been through enough of this shit; it's CHARLES' BLOG and if people don't like what they see or read out here, they are free to go someplace else, ya know?
Since I got out here this morning, I'd wager that at least 50% of the comments have been directed at or from Genexer over whether or not Genexer should stay or go and I vote GO.
How many times do we have to be hit in the head by some sleeper moby to understand this?
| 579 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:32:30am |
re: #572 Genexer
ACK! Did nothing we say mean anything?
| 581 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:32:49am |
re: #562 HoosierHoops
Heck no...When it comes to millionaires racing in circles i always go for the underdog....
My 5-year old loves Tony Stewart. I gotta work on that kid . . .
| 582 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:33:14am |
re: #577 Dustyvet
Thweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeethp...:P
On second thought ... eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww!
Roll back over!
| 583 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:33:18am |
re: #564 Wishing
LOL I ordered yesterday as well. Should I tremble til it arrives? lol
I ordered my cookbook yesterday...I'm pretty excited about it..
| 584 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:33:20am |
I gotta' go rassle The Kid into his church clothes. bbiab
| 585 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:33:22am |
re: #567 Scion9
Oh, its in there. You got a few centuries of jurisprudence to catch up on.
Here is a good place to start. This one is a good read too. Really just the tip of the iceberg. A layman's understanding of the constitution is irrelevant to the functioning of government.
Is there a point you were trying to make?
| 586 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:33:36am |
re: #579 MandyManners
ACK! Did nothing we say mean anything?
nice try...you're exceptionally patient this morning...good for you
| 587 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:33:37am |
| 588 |
wahabicorridor Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:34:05am |
| 589 |
n in wi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:34:19am |
re: #562 HoosierHoops
Heck no...When it comes to millionaires racing in circles i always go for the underdog....
Some bank that is getting bailout money is catching hell for sponsoring a NASCAR.
First CEO pay, then how to advertise.
Whats next, what kind of candy to hand out at the drive through?
| 590 |
Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:34:26am |
Well, maybe he will rethink things. It took me some time to dive into the issue.
| 592 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:34:45am |
| 593 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:34:48am |
Whoa. I just realized that Genexer's whole series of posts might have been nothing but an elaborate "Goodbye" melt-down. Nothing anyone said about the Constitution has sunk in.
bbiab
| 595 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:35:07am |
| 596 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:35:31am |
re: #531 HoosierHoops
Fabulous! Uh, isn't the Daytona 500 being held this week? Are y'all going down to Daytona or at least coming here to Charlotte, HOME of the NASCAR Hall of Fame?
| 597 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:35:40am |
re: #579 MandyManners
ACK! Did nothing we say mean anything?
You missed the entire point, IMHO. She didn't want to debate/ learn about ID/ Evolution. This was her "LOOK AT ME" moment. Who asks "should I stay,, should I leave,,, " Thats an individual choice. YOU certainly wouldn't leave just because someone tells you too (unless it were Stinky, of course)
That was all about ME I ME I ME I
| 598 |
2by2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:35:59am |
Morning All,
...and hey Genexer, after reading your preposterous comments, leaving for good seems to be a good course of action.
| 599 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:36:03am |
re: #569 MandyManners
Has nothing we've said about the encroachment of the Koran into our public schools meant nothing to you?
Bears repeating.
Has nothing we've said about the encroachment of the Koran into our public schools meant nothing to you?
Bears repeating again.
| 600 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:36:30am |
| 601 |
Afrocity Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:36:34am |
re: #592 BlueCanuck
Yes I did thank you for asking...I am about to nab one of those carrot raisin muffins that I made yesterday.
| 602 |
Wishing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:37:01am |
I am gone for a bit. Back later.
Keep up the good fight.
| 603 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:37:06am |
re: #591 reine.de.tout
.
Genexer, the remark about the anger is uncalled for. People this morning have been very polite and encouraging to you. Were you looking for anger?
I wasn't convinced at first that that ID/Creationism in school was the problem that it is, but I was open to thinking critically about it, which is what we need to do for any issue we are faced with.
She was looking for people to ding her down and tell her to get bent. so she could run to some other blog and point out how she was mistreated, IMO.
| 604 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:37:24am |
re: #572 Genexer
Thanks everyone for letting me pop in and have a say. But I will leave. And I will let the door hit me on the butt 'cause that's the way it feels.
This is Charles blog and he can run it anyway he'd like. Just as I can leave it .
Uh, then why all the drama? Wait, did you leave? I'm not done talking to you. Hello? If you're still here, get a thicker skin and a mischievous spirit and blogs will be fun.
| 605 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:37:30am |
re: #542 realwest
Hey there {Maggie} *smooch* back atcaha! Sorry to hear about the rain, but at least it's not dry enough for fires, right?
BTW, have the fires all been put out now or are they still raging and have they released the name of the murderer who set those fires?
Hi {darls}
There are still fires down in Victoria, and so far they are all controlled/contained
The bloke that alledged set the Churchill fire which killed 21 people, is in custody
Next Sunday will be a national day of mourning......
| 606 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:37:35am |
some leadership emerging from the House
[Link: www.iht.com...]
| 608 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:38:07am |
re: #596 realwest
Fabulous! Uh, isn't the Daytona 500 being held this week? Are y'all going down to Daytona or at least coming here to Charlotte, HOME of the NASCAR Hall of Fame?
Daytona 500 starts at 3:30. I was at the pepsi 400 (at Daytona) in 2001. The first race after Dale Earnhardt died. Dale, Jr won the race. It was the best race I have ever seen.
| 609 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:38:14am |
re: #585 Harry Tuttle
Is there a point you were trying to make?
Yes. You asked if what the Feds are doing now is constitutional. The answer is yes. Every single thing the Federal government is doing, and has done in the past, is constitutional except for what the Supreme Court has struck down as unconstitutional.
| 610 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:39:16am |
re: #547 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty, mom and I are ok, except I've got something wrong with the only one of my eyes with which I can see! Trying to find an eye doc today, but don't know of any and I don't think ER's or "Urgent Care" facilities deal with eye issues.
Other than that, we're peachy-keen, thank you! Glad to hear you and Tiger are well - how has Tiger taken to the new diet?
| 611 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:39:16am |
re: #603 Wyatt Earp
She was looking for people to ding her down and tell her to get bent. so she could run to some other blog and point out how she was mistreated, IMO.
That's what I'm beginning to think, also.
Best to keep cool heads, imo.
| 612 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:40:11am |
re: #609 Scion9
Yes. You asked if what the Feds are doing now is constitutional. The answer is yes. Every single thing the Federal government is doing, and has done in the past, is constitutional except for what the Supreme Court has struck down as unconstitutional.
Yes and when they take away your guns that will be constitutional as well then.
| 613 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:40:49am |
re: #553 wahabicorridor
"Kinda like real adults" LOL! I'm glad y'all had a great time.
| 614 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:41:02am |
re: #605 aussiemagpie
Next Sunday will be a national day of mourning......
So sad. And that it will be a day of celebration for the many Muslims, is also sad, and enraging.
| 615 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:41:23am |
Hi I'm hoosierhoops_sock_puppet..
I've been trying to decide if I should stay or go..
I come here for the drinking threads but charles never has one..How do you think that makes me feel? I'm not the one to tell charles what to post...So I'm really just here to whine and complaiin about it.
And get lizard input....( I'd like to get this meltdown started cause i may pass out soon)
/
| 616 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:41:42am |
re: #609 Scion9
Yes. You asked if what the Feds are doing now is constitutional. The answer is yes. Every single thing the Federal government is doing, and has done in the past, is constitutional except for what the Supreme Court has struck down as unconstitutional.
I also don't believe there has yet been an opinion from the SC on the bailout.
| 617 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:41:54am |
wtf?...BO goes to Chicago for dinner? or is he on vacation already?....
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
| 618 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:42:15am |
re: #578 realwest
HEY! This person had exactly 16 comments in two years before today. This is a pattern we've all seen out here before; folks who register, NEVER REALLY CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING and then announce that this blog is "X" or has changed to become "X" and then says it's leaving - usually with a more dramatic floursish I admit, but that could be due to a lack of imagination on Genexer's part.
I was actually let down by this lame ass drama queen act. And, we were being nice about it. I still managed to get a few snickers out of it, but she didn't ask for the Grade A ridicule.
| 619 |
2by2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:42:24am |
re: #572 Genexer
You don't seem to get much attention where ever you are,
so, I hope these generally nice responds to your self centered and self important :"shall I stay or shall I go" dance have helped a bit to balance your ego.
| 620 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:42:34am |
re: #566 HoosierHoops
Is it raining where the fires are?
No rain in Victoria unfortunately - they need it!
It's pouring here in my part of Sydney, but Sydney is so big, where Crux lives it might be fine weather :-)
| 621 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:42:36am |
For the rest of the month, the White House agenda will focus on addressing the housing crisis, cleaning up the banking mess and laying the groundwork for reform of the health care system and entitlement programs like Medicare.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:43:54am |
re: #615 HoosierHoops
Hi I'm hoosierhoops_sock_puppet..
I've been trying to decide if I should stay or go..
I come here for the drinking threads but charles never has one..How do you think that makes me feel? I'm not the one to tell charles what to post...So I'm really just here to whine and complaiin about it.
And get lizard input....( I'd like to get this meltdown started cause i may pass out soon)
/
Don't you ever leave Hoosier! :-)
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n in wi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:44:15am |
re: #621 Dustyvet
For the rest of the month, the White House agenda will focus on addressing the housing crisis, cleaning up the banking mess and laying the groundwork for reform of the health care system and entitlement programs like Medicare.
Glad February is a short month then
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Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:45:04am |
1st Amendment of the US Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....
Section 116 of the Australian Constitution
116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion....
Interesting?
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:45:14am |
At least she didn't ask for her account to be banned. That would really make a statement.
| 628 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:46:23am |
Go, and never darken my towels again.
Groucho Marx
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:46:31am |
hey Lizards,,, I'm SATTV4PUPPETS
I'm about to leave work
Should I make a pot of coffee and take a cup with me, or stop at Quick Trip and get one?
Should I drive in the left lane of the highway or the middle?
Should I listen to an AM talk show or put in a CD?
When I get home i'll have to go to the bathroom. Should I use the one in the master bedroom, the common one upstairs, or the half bath off the kitchen!
| 630 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:46:53am |
re: #612 Harry Tuttle
Yes and when they take away your guns that will be constitutional as well then.
Yes it will.
I also don't believe there has yet been an opinion from the SC on the bailout.
Yes there has, and I linked it. The supreme court rulings relating to the Necessary and Proper Clause gives the legislature complete control over the economy should they deem it 'necessary and proper' to do so.
It happened already during WWII where we had a 99.9% fascistic command economy.
| 631 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:47:04am |
PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION.
I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB
THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.
Groucho Marx
| 632 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:47:12am |
re: #573 HoosierHoops
Ah cool..Now I got somebody to root for at the party...
Now I haven't mentioned this in a long while......r**t means something entirely different here :-)
However it depends on what kind of party it is of course!
Seriously, Marcos Ambrose is a really lovely bloke (I've met him) and he has worked so hard to get to this stage
He was our champion V8 Supercar driver before he left us to try NASCAR
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:47:47am |
re: #627 BigPapa
At least she didn't ask for her account to be banned. That would really make a statement.
Happens every so often..It's pretty funny really when it happens here..
There are some classic meltdowns...
maybe we need another book..The best comments, humor, parodies and funniest meltdowns of LGF.
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pre-Boomer's SockPuppy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:48:24am |
re: #615 HoosierHoops
Hi I'm hoosierhoops_sock_puppet..
I've been trying to decide if I should stay or go..
I come here for the drinking threads but charles never has one..How do you think that makes me feel? I'm not the one to tell charles what to post...So I'm really just here to whine and complaiin about it.
And get lizard input....( I'd like to get this meltdown started cause i may pass out soon)
/
Hi, I'm pre-Boomer's SockPuppy, and I share your pain. I came here because LGF used to be about bicycles, and I LOVE chasing bicycles, but THERE AIN'T NO MORE BICYCLE THREADS! I wanna leave sooooo bad! Should I leave, or will Charles gratify me?!?!
WAHHHHH!
/ ... (do I really NEED it?)
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Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:48:25am |
re: #620 aussiemagpie
No rain in Victoria unfortunately - they need it!
It's pouring here in my part of Sydney, but Sydney is so big, where Crux lives it might be fine weather :-)
No. It's been raining here almost continuously for the last 72 hours or more.
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J.D. Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:48:56am |
re: #610 {realwest}
Hey Dusty, mom and I are ok, except I've got something wrong with the only one of my eyes with which I can see! Trying to find an eye doc today, but don't know of any and I don't think ER's or "Urgent Care" facilities deal with eye issues.
Other than that, we're peachy-keen, thank you! Glad to hear you and Tiger are well - how has Tiger taken to the new diet?
I've been to the ER for eye trouble and gotten help.
Sorry to hear about that.
Always something, huh?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:48:58am |
re: #632 aussiemagpie
Most Americans don't have any idea just what Warner Bros.' Yosemite Sam means when he says he's the "Rootin'-est, Tootin'-est" gunfighter in the west.
He means he's the "F***ing-est, Farting-est" gunfighter in the west.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:49:15am |
re: #626 Crux Australis
McCulloch v. Maryland was cited in the first substantial constitutional case presented before the High Court of Australia in D'Emden v Pedder, which dealt with similar issues in the Australian Federation; the justices, while recognizing United States law as not binding on them, nevertheless determined that the McCulloch decision provided the best guideline for the relationship between the Commonwealth federal government and the Australian States owing to strong similarities between the American and Australian federations, and specifically cited Marshall's opinion in deciding the case.
Curiouser and curiouser!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:49:28am |
I'll do anything you say. In fact I'll even stay. But I must be going.
Groucho in Animal Crackers (movie)
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:50:24am |
re: #632 aussiemagpie
Now I haven't mentioned this in a long while......r**t means something entirely different here :-)
However it depends on what kind of party it is of course!
Seriously, Marcos Ambrose is a really lovely bloke (I've met him) and he has worked so hard to get to this stage
He was our champion V8 Supercar driver before he left us to try NASCAR
wow.. root must be a dirty word down under.. It's r**t to you..
root
root
root
LOL
| 642 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:51:04am |
That's it. I'm leaving LGF just like all the rest. I can't take it any more. My bladder is about to burst and I'm hungry. I won't be back, maybe for 5 minutes. Goodbye.
| 643 |
Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:51:11am |
re: #638 Taqiyyotomist
Most Americans don't have any idea just what Warner Bros.' Yosemite Sam means when he says he's the "Rootin'-est, Tootin'-est" gunfighter in the west.
He means he's the "F***ing-est, Farting-est" gunfighter in the west.
Now, I bet that makes you think twice before ordering the Rooty-tooty Fresh&Fruity breakfast at IHOP.
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razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:51:20am |
One of my neighbors stopped by yesterday to borrow my block and tackle and I saw that he had a pickup bed loaded with MREs and bottled water. I asked, "What's up with that, Big C?"
He answered that FEMA was giving them away, all you had to do was go by the fire station.
Why?
Well, they were emergency supplies due to the ice storm and related damages. There are still about a thousand houses without power from the storm of the last week of January.
"But those people aren't able to get to the fire stations to pick up the supplies" I retorted.
"It's the government in action." Big C replied.
And so it is. Giving unneeded emergency supplies to folks well after the fact that don't need the help, while ignoring the people who do need help because it's easier to establish a centralized aid depot in areas that are in recovery.
I blame Bush.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:51:43am |
re: #638 Taqiyyotomist
Most Americans don't have any idea
just what Warner Bros.' Yosemite Sam means when he says he's the "Rootin'-est, Tootin'-est" gunfighter in the west.
He means he's the "F***ing-est, Farting-est" gunfighter in the west.
Thats how we ended up with Obama!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:52:01am |
Well, that covers a lot of ground. Say, you cover a lot of ground yourself.
You better beat it - I hear they're going to tear you down and put up an office building where you're standing.
You can leave in a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff.
If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.
You know, you haven't stopped talking since I came here?
You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.
Groucho in Duck Soup
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Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:52:10am |
re: #630 Scion9
Yes there has, and I linked it. The supreme court rulings relating to the Necessary and Proper Clause gives the legislature complete control over the economy should they deem it 'necessary and proper' to do so.
It happened already during WWII where we had a 99.9% fascistic command economy.
Im guessing you are a lawyer. I do take your point though.
Let me ask you this, what would Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have thought of all of this (and 'it doesn't matter' isn't an answer).
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Kenneth Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:52:38am |
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:52:41am |
re: #591 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Sorry to contradict you, but I wasn't nice to her at all. From my post #451 I knew it was a sleeper moby. You just don't "hang here" for two years, making all of 15 comments, then come out on LGF and bitch and moan about how awful it's become without being a moby.
And look at the way it treated everyone who tried to be nice to it!
I've seen too many of 'em - and they always take up a good 50-100 comments before folks finally figure it out and stop wasting their time - for it to let me get away with it.
Y'all are too nice to that type, IMHO. We get the same crap on the Robert Spencer threads (of which there have been exactly TWO) - folks who proclaim how much they LOVE LGF and JW, and don't know how to choose but Charles is clearly wrong, they can't stay, so long everyone, hope Charles come's to his senses etc. etc. etc.
I just don't have the patience you do. I really don't.
| 650 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:53:11am |
Hugo continues to muscle his way to permanent power
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:54:05am |
re: #614 Taqiyyotomist
So sad. And that it will be a day of celebration for
themany Muslims, is also sad, and enraging.
Hi and yes - a truly sad time for us
It's been a frightful week and so depressing even for us who aren't anywhere near the fires and have no connection with the affected areas
Except with the people, our fellow Aussies...
| 652 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:54:39am |
re: #647 Harry Tuttle
I'm not a lawyer actually, but Ben and Tom would be rolling their grave. Madison would have been rolling in his grave by 1819, except he wasn't dead yet. Hamilton and the Federalists however rests so very gently.
| 653 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:54:50am |
re: #647 Harry Tuttle
Im guessing you are a lawyer. I do take your point though.
Let me ask you this, what would Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have thought of all of this (and 'it doesn't matter' isn't an answer).
Do you think Ben Franklin would drive a Vette or a Prius?
( and it doesn't matter isn't an answer )
| 654 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:54:58am |
re: #648 Kenneth
Is that a plain white box, or your home-video of yesterday's snowstorm?
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Taqiyyotomist Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:55:15am |
Later all. Say, has anyone ever done smoked troll? It takes longer, but, oh, the flavor. Smoke kinda hides the gaminess of the buttock.
| 656 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:55:17am |
| 657 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:55:44am |
re: #624 realwest
Good morning real! I hope you're doing well today.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:56:28am |
re: #610 realwest
Trying to find an eye doc today, but don't know of any
real, got a WalMart nearby? They usually have vision centers w/optometrists available. At the very least, they'll be able to diagnose if you need more critical care.
| 660 |
Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:56:47am |
re: #639 Scion9
Curiouser and curiouser!
As far as federal - state relations the US and Australia are very similar though I would say that the Federal government has a little more power in Australia than the US.
| 662 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:57:25am |
re: #648 Kenneth
BTW, how well is your dad coping now regarding your mom's passing?
| 663 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:57:48am |
re: #647 Harry Tuttle
Im guessing you are a lawyer. I do take your point though.
Let me ask you this, what would Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have thought of all of this (and 'it doesn't matter' isn't an answer).
They would have seen an airplane and yelled, "Argh! Iron bird!"
| 664 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:58:10am |
Let's try that again, shall we...
Lost Generation
| 665 |
Crux Australis Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:58:18am |
And being 2am it's time for bed. Good night.
| 666 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:58:30am |
Ah, a fresh batch of insolent and mischievous lizards. Let pour some coffee in my whiskey...
| 667 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:58:33am |
I suppose I could feel used and angry that this likely was an elaborate "good-bye cruel world" situation but, I gave it my best shot. Maybe what I posted will get through to others having the same issue.
| 668 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:58:40am |
re: #655 Taqiyyotomist
Later all. Say, has anyone ever done smoked troll? It takes longer, but, oh, the flavor. Smoke kinda hides the gaminess of the buttock.
Goes especially well between a pair of rye buns.
| 669 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:59:02am |
re: #653 HoosierHoops
Do you think Ben Franklin would drive a Vette or a Prius?
( and it doesn't matter isn't an answer )
Chevy pickup.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 6:59:28am |
re: #636 Crux Australis
No. It's been raining here almost continuously for the last 72 hours or more.
Hi Crux, I'm hoping it clears up soon - water is coming into the garage, and I've run out of old towels to put under the garage doors
| 673 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:00:03am |
re: #653 HoosierHoops
Do you think Ben Franklin would drive a Vette or a Prius?
( and it doesn't matter isn't an answer )
He'd drive a Jeep.
| 674 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:00:38am |
re: #662 pre-Boomer Marine brat
He's doing ok. We try to keep him company and keep him active. They were together since high school, so It must feel like a huge part of him is gone.
Thank you for asking.
| 675 |
bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:00:52am |
| 676 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:00:53am |
| 677 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:00:55am |
re: #665 Crux Australis
And being 2am it's time for bed. Good night.
Good night.
Best wishes for rain down there, and no winds.
/but not too much rain, there's a lotta bare ground now
| 678 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:01:26am |
re: #638 Taqiyyotomist
Most Americans don't have any idea just what Warner Bros.' Yosemite Sam means when he says he's the "Rootin'-est, Tootin'-est" gunfighter in the west.
He means he's the "F***ing-est, Farting-est" gunfighter in the west.
LOL! You've successfully translated that into Australian :-)
| 679 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:01:31am |
| 680 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:01:40am |
re: #629 sattv4u2
hey Lizards,,, I'm SATTV4PUPPETS
I'm about to leave work
Should I make a pot of coffee and take a cup with me, or stop at Quick Trip and get one?
Should I drive in the left lane of the highway or the middle?
Should I listen to an AM talk show or put in a CD?
When I get home i'll have to go to the bathroom. Should I use the one in the master bedroom, the common one upstairs, or the half bath off the kitchen!
yes.
| 681 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:02:02am |
| 682 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:02:20am |
re: #605 aussiemagpie
That's just such an horrific story and event - but I couldn't see anything in that link that told me the name of the murderer who set at least some of the fires, including the first ones.
Just wondering if it was "Mohammed" or "Ali" or somesuch.
| 683 |
bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:03:01am |
re: #681 HoosierHoops
Good morning Bella..Always nice seeing you
you too hoops. What did you do nice for Mrs. Hoops on Valentines day?
| 684 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:03:03am |
| 685 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:03:28am |
re: #641 HoosierHoops
wow.. root must be a dirty word down under.. It's r**t to you..
root
root
root
LOL
Soap and water, go wash your mouth out now! :-)
| 686 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:04:00am |
re: #679 MandyManners
Oh, you know it!
Actually, considering Franklin's way with women, he'd probably drive a pimped out Cadillac.
| 687 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:04:35am |
re: #674 Kenneth
He's doing ok. We try to keep him company and keep him active. They were together since high school, so It must feel like a huge part of him is gone.
Thank you for asking.
Together in high school?!
That WOULD take a plug out of one's life.
*more prayers*
| 688 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:04:48am |
re: #685 aussiemagpie
Soap and water, go wash your mouth out now! :-)
Getting right to the root of the matter...
| 689 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:04:57am |
re: #685 aussiemagpie
Ah don't mind him, he's real crook you know.
| 690 |
Luigi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:05:17am |
All of a sudden, AP sees things differently...
Taliban announce cease-fire in Pakistan valley
Past peace deals with militants, including in Swat, have failed. Any agreement this time could spark renewed U.S. criticism that peace talks merely give militants time to regroup and rearm.
Ya think that might apply to Hamas as well?
| 691 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:05:33am |
Good morning lizards.
Went to the movies to see "Slumdog Millionaire" last night w/ my valentine. GREAT MOVIE. LGF'ers would like. Don't miss it.
| 692 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:06:04am |
Country's largest banks suspend foreclosures
Wells Fargo, J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup Inc. have agreed to halt home foreclosures while the federal government works out a plan to stabilize the nation’s banking industry.“We will not add to the foreclosure process any new owner-occupied residential loans that are owned and serviced by J.P. Morgan Chase,” said J.P. Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon in a Feb. 12 letter to Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.
That moratorium would remain in effect through March 6.
Citigroup said it would put a moratorium on foreclosures of Citigroup-owned loans on principal residences, among others. Citi’s moratorium is scheduled to last until March 12, barring federal action before then.
San Francisco-based Wells Fargo, one of the nation’s largest mortgage lenders, joined the moratorium Friday along with BofA.
“The vast majority of the mortgage loans Wells Fargo services are owned by other investors. We are fully committed to helping our customers find ways to avoid all preventable foreclosures, and we are working with these investors and related contractual commitments to determine how we will support the moratorium request,” said Wells Fargo spokesman Chris Hammond. ...
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:06:13am |
re: #686 Wyatt Earp
Actually, considering Franklin's way with women, he'd probably drive a pimped out Cadillac.
He had more dignity than that. Maybe a Camaro.
| 694 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:06:47am |
re: #649 realwest
Good morning reine! Sorry to contradict you, but I wasn't nice to her at all. From my post #451 I knew it was a sleeper moby. You just don't "hang here" for two years, making all of 15 comments, then come out on LGF and bitch and moan about how awful it's become without being a moby.
And look at the way it treated everyone who tried to be nice to it!
I've seen too many of 'em - and they always take up a good 50-100 comments before folks finally figure it out and stop wasting their time - for it to let me get away with it.
Y'all are too nice to that type, IMHO. We get the same crap on the Robert Spencer threads (of which there have been exactly TWO) - folks who proclaim how much they LOVE LGF and JW, and don't know how to choose but Charles is clearly wrong, they can't stay, so long everyone, hope Charles come's to his senses etc. etc. etc.
I just don't have the patience you do. I really don't.
Realwest - most people here were very nice.
I'm of the mind, and this is just my opinion, no insult meant to anyone, that it's better not to give these folks fodder for their "they were so mean to me" complaints.
Some folks might actually be persuaded to stay and listen and learn!
This one, though - I agree with you, the agenda was clear from the beginning.
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razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:07:18am |
re: #690 Luigi
All of a sudden, AP sees things differently...
Taliban announce cease-fire in Pakistan valley
Ya think that might apply to Hamas as well?
Of course not. If it did, would Our Lord and Savior Obama be proposing millions of dollars to resettle Palis to the United States?
'Course not.
| 696 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:07:33am |
re: #683 bellamags
you too hoops. What did you do nice for Mrs. Hoops on Valentines day?
I gave her a heart necklace and we did a nice little dinner..
We don't eat candy and she doesn't really like to get flowers.. ( weird, I married the only girl in the world who thinks flowers are a waste of money)
| 697 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:08:06am |
re: #606 albusteve
Hey, Eric Cantor seems like a good guy; he and his wife are lawyers (but of course I'd never hold that against him!) and have Masters Degrees in real estate deveoplment (another plus!) but he is a really strong supporter of Israel. He sounds like a promising, up and coming young Republican [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 698 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:08:07am |
| 699 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:08:12am |
re: #650 albusteve
Hugo continues to muscle his way to permanent power
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
The voters said NO the first time - so , like a good lefty totalitarian, the desired outcome must be enforced.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:08:31am |
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:09:02am |
| 702 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:09:12am |
OK, must run.
We've sold 34 cookbooks since last night's thread.
With all of the recipes and the really fun ROFLMAO section, it's a good memento of LGF and the election year of 2008!
So if you're of a mind, go ahead and order yours - click my nic and you'll go to the blog where there's a link to buy.
| 703 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:09:21am |
re: #682 realwest
That's just such an horrific story and event - but I couldn't see anything in that link that told me the name of the murderer who set at least some of the fires, including the first ones.
Just wondering if it was "Mohammed" or "Ali" or somesuch.
The arsonist responsible (alledgedly) for the Churchill fire is a loner who apparently used to set fire to stuff when he was young
Apparently he's in a mentally "fragile" state
And no, he's not one of those...his name was published just once, then suppressed immediately
| 704 |
Luigi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:09:39am |
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Amer-I-Can Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:09:39am |
re: #629 sattv4u2
hey Lizards,,, I'm SATTV4PUPPETS
I'm about to leave work
Should I make a pot of coffee and take a cup with me, or stop at Quick Trip and get one?
Should I drive in the left lane of the highway or the middle?
Should I listen to an AM talk show or put in a CD?
When I get home i'll have to go to the bathroom. Should I use the one in the master bedroom, the common one upstairs, or the half bath off the kitchen!
Well SAT_PUPPETS... since you asked:
Stop at QT, it's better than that drivel that you call coffee anyway
Pick the left lane, it gives the other drivers a chance to excercise their middle fingers if you drive like a gramps
Definitely a CD, AM might make you have to deal with reality today... not a good thing on the Sabath
As for the bathroom... how big a cup of coffee did you get at the QT?
hehehehe :)
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:09:39am |
re: #660 Crux Australis
That doesn't surprise me. The sheer size of the US makes centralized government a bureaucratic nightmare. Of course that hasn't stopped our best and brightest third-rate and marginally above average from trying to do it anyway.
I imagine a rule of thumb though, is that the less populous, and more urbanized a democratic state is, the more power the citizens would entrust to a centralized government.
| 707 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:10:02am |
re: #698 MandyManners
What sparked this idea?
I heard the term 'mortgage payment subsidies' on the news last week.
WTF has happened to our country?
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:10:43am |
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:10:43am |
re: #696 HoosierHoops
I gave her a heart necklace and we did a nice little dinner..
We don't eat candy and she doesn't really like to get flowers.. ( weird, I married the only girl in the world who thinks flowers are a waste of money)
That was very sweet. Hope you guys has a great night. (i like getting flowers, but i do know several women who think they are a waste of money also : )
| 710 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:11:53am |
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:12:26am |
re: #697 realwest
Hey, Eric Cantor seems like a good guy; he and his wife are lawyers (but of course I'd never hold that against him!) and have Masters Degrees in real estate deveoplment (another plus!) but he is a really strong supporter of Israel. He sounds like a promising, up and coming young Republican [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
and he's a Newthead...gotta like it...I want to see strong leadership in the House...so far so good
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:13:41am |
So, GM came begging for another $5 billion. The UAW walked out on meetings to bring their costs under control, the government wants to enforce even more draconian "requirements" on the cars they make (the ones we won't want to buy).
Can we say "I told you so" yet?
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:14:47am |
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:15:06am |
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:16:28am |
re: #637 J.D.
Hey there {J.D.} - you've been to the ER for an eye problem (my eye looks "normal" to me and to Mom and we can't see any scratches or anything, it isn't "pink eye" or anything and I'd just feel funny going to an ER where they have people who have really life threatening injuries and all, just to say my eye just doesn't feel right.
I dunno. If I lost the vision in this eye, I'd be functionally blind, but still - it ain't bleedin' and there's no bones sticking out so maybe I'll wait until tomorrow and try to find an opthamoagl, opthamel, eye doctor then!
How have you been? Well, I hope!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:16:37am |
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:17:35am |
re: #712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
So, GM came begging for another $5 billion. The UAW walked out on meetings to bring their costs under control, the government wants to enforce even more draconian "requirements" on the cars they make (the ones we won't want to buy).
Can we say "I told you so" yet?
the UAW is nothing more than blackmailing thugs...another perfect example of the dream world people live in....thinking they should be part of the solution when they are exactly the problem....kinda like Barney and his cronies...I have little faith
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:17:43am |
re: #713 aussiemagpie
Hi, Blue, and LOL!
Troubling... another pair of countries separated by a common language.
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J.D. Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:17:56am |
re: #698 MandyManners
What sparked this idea?
Who knows?
My daughter has been dealing with Wells Fargo Mortgage and they are nuttier than hell. Check this out.
She's married, a 2-year-old, husband an electrician so not enough work, she's a pediatric occupational therapist in business for herself and lost 3/4 of her private pay patients in the last few months, so they got behind in their payments. We had helped, but she didn't want to ask for more from us...
Anyway, she has a patient (child) who "they" had said would never write, etc. etc. but she managed to help him perform waaaaaay beyond what "they" had said he would. She tells my daughter about a man in their church who, along with his 2 partners, sold their electronics company several years ago and made a fortune... and he likes to help good people in need, so she tells him about my daughter's family. He writes a check for nearly $7,000 and attempts to overnight it but can't because the address they've given is a P.O. Box, so he mails it first class and Wells Fargo claims it's 2 days late, they have held it in suspension (for a week, so far) while they "decide what to do", and they're piling on (thus far) $1,700 in legal fees (they've sent one letter from the legal dept.) and heaven only knows what else they'll come up with.
Amazing to me.
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Amer-I-Can Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:18:25am |
re: #712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
So, GM came begging for another $5 billion. The UAW walked out on meetings to bring their costs under control, the government wants to enforce even more draconian "requirements" on the cars they make (the ones we won't want to buy).
Can we say "I told you so" yet?
Sadly, you can say it but no one will be listening except us lizards... I've already decide to vote for these ASSHOLES with my wallet, I refuse to purchase another union built vehicle, and I don't think I'm alone.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:19:02am |
re: #717 albusteve
the UAW is nothing more than blackmailing thugs...another perfect example of the dream world people live in....thinking they should be part of the solution when they are exactly the problem....kinda like Barney and his cronies...I have little faith
Unions were great . . . in the 30's. Today? Not so much.
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gregg Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:20:13am |
re: #559 aussiemagpie
AHA! I can post this now then
Marcos Ambrose, first Aussie to start (and finish hopefully) in the Daytona 500
My very favourite Aussie driver, a true blue champion :-)
His sponsor, Little Debbie, has run ads featuring him:
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:20:36am |
re: #721 Wyatt Earp
Unions were great . . . in the 30's. Today? Not so much.
Toyota builds a car for 45$ and hour....GM builds a car for 75$ an hour..DUH!
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:20:55am |
re: #716 Dustyvet
I used to have a New Zealand slang book...:)
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itellu3times Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:21:03am |
Hey, new comments button locked up my IE6, 100% CPU forever.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:21:20am |
re: #721 Wyatt Earp
Unions were great . . . in the 30's. Today? Not so much.
Remember the old ad "Look for the Union Label"? All I find on clothing labels these days is "Made In China"...
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:21:25am |
re: #712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
So, GM came begging for another $5 billion. The UAW walked out on meetings to bring their costs under control, the government wants to enforce even more draconian "requirements" on the cars they make (the ones we won't want to buy).
Can we say "I told you so" yet?
You got it. The combination of government socialists, clueless management, and greedy Unions is a recipe for a car company that will screw the tax payer for as long as it takes to ultimately go out of business anyway.
/That's how you keep jobs in America!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:22:04am |
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J.D. Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:22:36am |
re: #715 realwest
I know what you mean. Going to the ER on Sunday can also mean you get behind the druggies who need a fix after Friday and Saturday...happened to me when I had nearly cut off my left index finger...
I've got some crud that has me coughing and feverish since Thursday. I may give up and go to the Urgent Treatment Center. First, I'll try to tough it out a little longer...
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Kenneth Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:22:51am |
re: #687 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Yup. My dad told me he first had a crush on her in Grade 11, and finally gout up enough courage to ask her out in Grade 12.& they went stead ever since. The old fashion way.
That video link doesn't seem to want to work, so Ill have to try again later.
Later folks
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:22:56am |
re: #717 albusteve
the UAW is nothing more than blackmailing thugs...another perfect example of the dream world people live in....thinking they should be part of the solution when they are exactly the problem....kinda like Barney and his cronies...I have little faith
I have a friend who is a construction manager of some sort... (I don't really understand his role, he reads blueprints and adjusts the whims of the architechs into something that actually works for the crews if that rings any bells).
Anyway, he had a job to do at a auto plant in Indiana someplace. He cussed up a bluestreak about the UAW workers, laziest people on earth, saying they'd shut down the entire production line if the window section had only three of the four people that were supposed to man it, even if the next station down the line had extra people (it was against union rules to move the workers around). He said there were plenty of workers there that spent their whole day in the break room playing cards and there was nothing management could do about it.
Insane.
My friend is also a union worker and a big union supporter...
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:23:15am |
re: #726 Dustyvet
Remember the old ad "Look for the Union Label"? All I find on clothing labels these days is "Made In China"...
Maybe Chinese unions are good?
///
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:23:22am |
re: #718 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Troubling... another pair of countries separated by a common language.
Hi there, but we have so much in common, in language
Why, listening to President Obama, his mmms and ohhhhs and ahhhs sound remarkably like ours :-)
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:23:39am |
re: #725 itellu3times
Hey, new comments button locked up my IE6, 100% CPU forever.
Site acting squirrely for me this A.M. as well. And i have noticed (for a while now) that if i try to hit the "jump to bottom" thingy before the page is fully loaded, it brings me back to the front page.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:24:08am |
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:24:53am |
re: #719 J.D.
Who knows?
My daughter has been dealing with Wells Fargo Mortgage and they are nuttier than hell. Check this out.
She's married, a 2-year-old, husband an electrician so not enough work, she's a pediatric occupational therapist in business for herself and lost 3/4 of her private pay patients in the last few months, so they got behind in their payments. We had helped, but she didn't want to ask for more from us...
Anyway, she has a patient (child) who "they" had said would never write, etc. etc. but she managed to help him perform waaaaaay beyond what "they" had said he would. She tells my daughter about a man in their church who, along with his 2 partners, sold their electronics company several years ago and made a fortune... and he likes to help good people in need, so she tells him about my daughter's family. He writes a check for nearly $7,000 and attempts to overnight it but can't because the address they've given is a P.O. Box, so he mails it first class and Wells Fargo claims it's 2 days late, they have held it in suspension (for a week, so far) while they "decide what to do", and they're piling on (thus far) $1,700 in legal fees (they've sent one letter from the legal dept.) and heaven only knows what else they'll come up with.
Amazing to me.
That is preposterous! Could she talk with a real estate attorney? Many attorneys offer an intiial consultation for free or at a reduced rate.
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Amer-I-Can Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:25:02am |
re: #725 itellu3times
Hey, new comments button locked up my IE6, 100% CPU forever.
Me too, I just thought it was my POS PC. After six years it might be time for an upgrade... LOL
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razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:25:18am |
Ever notice how much damage is done by well-meaning folks that aren't paying attention?
I'm reminded of an incident that happened to someone...let us simply call him 'razorfronter' to hide his secret shame.
We were clearing land for a gentleman in far Arkansas2 and had stopped for lunch. We parked the dozers in a triangle so that Jim Bob could go around the formation and refill them while we ate. I wolfed down my porkchop sammich and Dr Pepper and settled down under the shade of my Cat to take a little nap.
I heard Dad call, "Son, let's hit it again", heard Uncle B's D8 fire back up, and I climbed back up onto the seat of my little D6 and restarted it. Watched the dials swing back into the green, casually slipped it into reverse and backed over the bed of Uncle B's brand new pickup truck.
'Course everyone was sympathetic, said it could have happened to anyone, don't feel too bad Boy, why look, if'n you don't look back past the cab that truck is good as it ever was. Dad even took his sodbuster out and scraped the new truck sticker out of the passenger window to give to Uncle B.
Uncle B, well he wasn't quite so understanding. Indeed, he was, not to put too fine a point onto it, pissed. The fact that I, er, razorfronter, meant no harm did not seem to soothe his agitated mind.
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:25:46am |
re: #727 FrogMarch
You got it. The combination of government socialists, clueless management, and greedy Unions is a recipe for a car company that will screw the tax payer for as long as it takes to ultimately go out of business anyway.
/That's how you keep jobs in America!
The worst part is (and the most ridiculous) is the chattering lefty pundits now vilify Toyota and Honda. Typical lefty whores. They will breathlessly cut a solid business model off at the knee caps in order to pacify their bad-faith/blind-faith love affair with corrupt anti-business UNIONS.
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:26:19am |
re: #707 Harry Tuttle
I heard the term 'mortgage payment subsidies' on the news last week.
WTF has happened to our country?
Cloward and Piven, that's what.
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:26:30am |
re: #734 bellamags
Site acting squirrely for me this A.M. as well. And i have noticed (for a while now) that if i try to hit the "jump to bottom" thingy before the page is fully loaded, it brings me back to the front page.
That always happens to me Bella when I'm at work on IE6..I'll click to soon then it's like oh crap!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:26:58am |
re: #733 aussiemagpie
Hi there, but we have so much in common, in language
Why, listening to President Obama, his mmms and ohhhhs and ahhhs sound remarkably like ours :-)
Yeah, but the words between them we don't understand.
Neither do you.
Neither does he.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:27:37am |
re: #722 gregg
His sponsor, Little Debbie, has run ads featuring him:
Hi Gregg, and thanks for the link :-)
Just so cute and the koala is too!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:27:54am |
re: #735 Dustyvet
Not from what I've heard...
Yeah, they're "union meetings" usually end with gunshots.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:28:37am |
re: #744 aussiemagpie
Hi Gregg, and thanks for the link :-)
Just so cute and the koala is too!
"You know they're talking to me, right?" Great commercial.
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:28:45am |
re: #647 Harry Tuttle
Morning Harry Tuttle! Well I don't want to intrude here, but I am a lawyer (albeit retired from practice) and a former Associate Professor of Law (adjunct) and I'll say that Ben and Tom would probably have been pretty effin' upset about this whole Pork Bill too - but if they thought it was necessary for the FEDERAL government to do it to save the United States, they'd have gone with it.
The real problem here is that although everyone was rushed to vote for this One thousand plus page bill, Obama can't be rushed to sign it until Tuesday.
That's the kind of chicanery and bullshit that annoys the hell out of me - many members admitted - on TV - that they'd been forced to vote for this bill without being able to read it, or have their staff read it, because of the BIG RUSH Pelosi and Reid put on getting it passed.
There's a lot in the earlier, 759 page bill which I did read - I lead such an exciting life - that I hated with a passion - but even I don't have time to read the whole damn thing. THAT would have Pissed off Franklin and Jefferson NO END - that the representatives of the People "had" to vote on such an enormous "Stimulus Bill" - which everyone knew was loaded with pork - without the chance to read it or for a reaoned debate about it.
But I think it's constitutional, though I can't say for sure cause I haven't read all of the bill; there are parts which may not be constitutional.
And, fwiw, I think Obama's trying to take over the Census (which is separate and apart from this bill, I think,) is indeed unconstitutional.
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bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:29:46am |
re: #741 HoosierHoops
That always happens to me Bella when I'm at work on IE6..I'll click to soon then it's like oh crap!
I am on Firefox. IE always locks me up, internet EXPLOITER imho.
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:29:53am |
re: #745 Wyatt Earp
Yeah, they're "union meetings" usually end with gunshots.
They need to remove the firing squad provision out of the contract...
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:30:10am |
re: #731 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I have a friend who is a construction manager of some sort... (I don't really understand his role, he reads blueprints and adjusts the whims of the architechs into something that actually works for the crews if that rings any bells).
Anyway, he had a job to do at a auto plant in Indiana someplace. He cussed up a bluestreak about the UAW workers, laziest people on earth, saying they'd shut down the entire production line if the window section had only three of the four people that were supposed to man it, even if the next station down the line had extra people (it was against union rules to move the workers around). He said there were plenty of workers there that spent their whole day in the break room playing cards and there was nothing management could do about it.
Insane.
My friend is also a union worker and a big union supporter...
insanity is reality for too many people in this country...I don't know if it's selfishness or ignorance or both...now the feds have gone off the bridge......common sense is dead and I see little reason for optimism and that is generally against my nature....the people have become so psyched out they have no clue
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:30:11am |
re: #721 Wyatt Earp
Unions were great . . . in the 30's. Today? Not so much.
Agreed. Modern strict labor laws make unions unnecessary. Unions are now exclusively a political pay-to-play socialist scheme. In any event - 95% of the time -when a union touches an American business - that business is forever ruined.
case in point - the American Steel industry.
| 752 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:30:38am |
re: #734 bellamags
Site acting squirrely for me this A.M. as well. And i have noticed (for a while now) that if i try to hit the "jump to bottom" thingy before the page is fully loaded, it brings me back to the front page.
That's happened to me twice this morning. The way to avoid it is to refresh.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:31:08am |
re: #743 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Yeah, but the words between them we don't understand.
Neither do you.
Neither does he.
Great observation there....but hey who cares, Michelle is on the cover of Vogue!
| 754 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:31:18am |
re: #657 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - I'm ok, thanks - woulda said "hi" but I thought you said that video was a "drive-by" and I didn't know you were still out here!
How are you and yours doing? Getting through it all ok, I hope?!
| 755 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:31:29am |
re: #748 bellamags
I am on Firefox. IE always locks me up, internet EXPLOITER imho.
I always use firefox at home..There is no snap-in to run FF3 to run Oracle 11i or R12.. So we can't use it at work...
Somebody! please program a snap-in! Walter?
| 757 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:31:53am |
re: #736 MandyManners
That is preposterous! Could she talk with a real estate attorney? Many attorneys offer an intiial consultation for free or at a reduced rate.
That's an idea. Thanks.
I said she needs to be on television with that story.
My mother says she should call Obama.
No. I mean it.
I guess she saw some of this:
...To be sure, the present state of the economy is an "event," and has blown many governments around the world off course. But again: The hideous drooling blob of toxic pustules dignified as the "stimulus" bill is something the incoming Obama had months to prepare for and oodles of bipartisan goodwill and fawning press coverage to waft him along on. Instead, he choseto outsource it to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank and the rest of the congressional pork barons. So that, too, is not an "event" but merely, like his Cabinet picks, a matter of judgment and executive competence.Not to matter. When the going gets tough, the tough go campaigning. So, almost as if he were still running for office rather than actually running an office, the president arranges a photo-op or a town-hall meeting, where, for the moment, the hopeychangey shtick still plays. "I have an urgent need," a freeborn citizen of the republic (I use the term loosely) beseeched the president in Fort Myers last week. "We need a home, our own kitchen, our own bathroom."
As Michelle Malkin commented, "If she had more time, she probably would have remembered to ask Obama to fill up her gas tank, too." He took her name – Henrietta Hughes – and ordered his staff to meet with her. Hopefully, he won't insult her by dispatching some no-name deputy assistant associate secretary of whatever instead of flying in one of the big time tax-avoiding Cabinet honchos to nationalize a Florida bank and convert one of its branches into a desirable family residence, with a swing set hanging where the drive-thru ATM used to be.
Still, the audience loved it. "Yes!" they yelped, and "Amen!," and even "Gracious God, thank you so much!" In the words of Bob Hope, "Leave your name with the girl, and we may get to you for some crowd scenes." Ah, but eventually the hosannahs fade, and the Community-Organizer-in-Chief has to return to Washington to attend to the drearier chores of being president. The "Buy American" provisions in the "stimulus" will invite certain retaliation around the world, wrote Jagdish Bhagwati, the Columbia economics professor, in The New York Times. This is presumably the same Jagdish Bhagwati who reassured a Toronto audience last year that he was endorsing Obama despite the senator's anti-NAFTA anti-free-trade rhetoric because he didn't think Obama really believed it. Today it's even less clear what, if anything, Obama believes – and, even more critically, whether he has the wit or authority to impose those beliefs on a Congress whose operating procedure for the new era seems to be business as usual with three extra zeros on the end. ...
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:32:12am |
re: #731 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I have a friend who is a construction manager of some sort... (I don't really understand his role, he reads blueprints and adjusts the whims of the architechs into something that actually works for the crews if that rings any bells).
Anyway, he had a job to do at a auto plant in Indiana someplace. He cussed up a bluestreak about the UAW workers, laziest people on earth, saying they'd shut down the entire production line if the window section had only three of the four people that were supposed to man it, even if the next station down the line had extra people (it was against union rules to move the workers around). He said there were plenty of workers there that spent their whole day in the break room playing cards and there was nothing management could do about it.
Insane.
My friend is also a union worker and a big union supporter...
You just described the business model the Democrats want to force on all of America.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:32:48am |
re: #753 aussiemagpie
Great observation there....but hey who cares, Michelle is on the cover of Vogue!
Helps my diet... I refuse to go into a grocery store until the horror is over.
| 760 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:32:49am |
re: #659 wahabicorridor
Thanks for that idea Wahabi, but our "local" Walmart is an expensive cab ride and, iirc, their eyeglass department is closed on Sunday! But I'll call to find out!
| 761 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:32:52am |
re: #739 FrogMarch
Yes. The new battle cry of the American Left now seems to be "Blame the Asians!" Their Enlightenment-born self-criticism instincts must have been burned out from too much anti-Americanism, and associated self-loathing.
/Or maybe they are just ramping up the rhetoric to invade Japan.
| 762 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:33:36am |
re: #747 realwest
many members admitted - on TV - that they'd been forced to vote for this bill without being able to read it, or have their staff read it, because of the BIG RUSH Pelosi and Reid put on getting it passed.
NO ONE forced them to vote in a rush. It is the duty of every law maker to not vote on a mystery.
| 763 |
razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:33:50am |
re: #751 FrogMarch
Agreed. Modern strict labor laws make unions unnecessary. Unions are now exclusively a political pay-to-play socialist scheme. In any event - 95% of the time -when a union touches an American business - that business is forever ruined.
case in point - the American Steel industry.
Come now, my friend. Let us not be too hasty. You should know that the unions that are gaining membership are government unions. Government workers, paid with your taxes, that need union reps to protect themselves from the big, bad, immoral Man (taxpayers).
Surely you don't want to try and argue that government employees are not the absolute cream of the crop, do you?
| 764 |
bbuddha Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:34:23am |
Sorry in advance for the drive by
to goddess when she gets here....I wanted to let you know that my mother in law is back to her self. she started eating and drinking and in fact seems to be making up for lost time. She's 95 and tough as nails.
bbl, the chores are calling
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:35:05am |
"Employee Free Choice Act" = Stealth Union pimping.
coming to a ballot near you.
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razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:35:39am |
re: #756 MandyManners
Insurance?
Didn't seem to cover 'hungover teen who dosen't look before putting an 18 ton tracked vehicle into reverse'.
It's always the fine print that gets you, in the end.
| 768 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:36:48am |
re: #753 aussiemagpie
Great observation there....but hey who cares, Michelle is on the cover of Vogue!
I still am waging my quiet protest. Every time I'm in the grocery store or Wal*Mart, I pick up a magazine, thumb through it and then replace it over the TIME magazine with CBBHO on the cover. Every time.
Now I'll do so with the magazine displays that are not by the register.
Nyah. Nyah.
| 769 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:36:50am |
re: #766 FrogMarch
"Employee Free Choice Act" = Stealth Union pimping.
coming to a ballot near you.
yep....communism with lipstick
| 770 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:37:31am |
re: #766 FrogMarch
"Employee Free Choice Act" = Stealth Union pimping.
coming to a ballot near you.
Hey, pimpin' ain't easy!
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MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:37:59am |
re: #767 razorbacker
Didn't seem to cover 'hungover teen who dosen't look before putting an 18 ton tracked vehicle into reverse'.
It's always the fine print that gets you, in the end.
How long did it take you to live it down?
| 773 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:38:48am |
| 774 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:39:35am |
re: #773 MandyManners
And, you know this because...?
Oh, um, I've heard people talking . . . .*whistles*
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razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:39:38am |
re: #772 MandyManners
How long did it take you to live it down?
Hell, you can go to family reunions and hear the story today. I won't live it down if down I live for another 200 years.
| 776 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:39:50am |
re: #773 MandyManners
He's the one busting them?
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:40:04am |
re: #694 reine.de.tout
Reine, I used to be so inclined - ya know, talk to 'em (which often enough wound up talking at them) and try to bring 'em around, but there have been SO MANY in the last week alone (including the Spencer threads) that I just saw the pattern and was not in a mood to play with this one. If someone has been registered here for two years, claims they love the place and ultimately 50% of it's posts are from today where all it does is (politely, perhaps) bad mouth LGF and Charles, well I just don't have the patience for it anymore.
| 778 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:40:12am |
re: #746 Wyatt Earp
"You know they're talking to me, right?" Great commercial.
As we don't have Little Debbie stuff here, I hadn't seen this ad before and it's lovely!
Also, I was horrified to read about the shooting of your fellow officer, just so senseless, and I'm so sorry {Wyatt Earp}
| 779 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:41:19am |
put down that bomb!....but you're being mean!
the Norks need to be slapped and hard
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
| 780 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:41:21am |
re: #774 Wyatt Earp
Oh, um, I've heard people talking . . . .*whistles*
And here I thought you once did a tour with the Vice Squad...:)
| 781 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:41:29am |
re: #774 Wyatt Earp
Oh, um, I've heard people talking . . . .*whistles*
I'm still waiting for Buzzsaw's parody on the rap song 'It's hard out here for a pimp'
The end of the world as we know it
| 782 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:41:36am |
re: #778 aussiemagpie
As we don't have Little Debbie stuff here, I hadn't seen this ad before and it's lovely!
Also, I was horrified to read about the shooting of your fellow officer, just so senseless, and I'm so sorry {Wyatt Earp}
Thank you very much. It's been a long two days.
| 783 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:41:43am |
re: #763 razorbacker
Come now, my friend. Let us not be too hasty. You should know that the unions that are gaining membership are government unions. Government workers, paid with your taxes, that need union reps to protect themselves from the big, bad, immoral Man (taxpayers).
Surely you don't want to try and argue that government employees are not the absolute cream of the crop, do you?
Yep - and there's the rub. The left like to hide behind firefighters, police and school teachers to push their stealth unionization.
While the rest of us have deal with reality -- the reality of dwindling retirement and 401K's - the government union model insists that we the tax payer pony up more $$$ to make sure government pensions are not at all effected by the same economic reality. Unicorns for all!
It’s for the Children™
| 784 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:42:07am |
Quick word game...
Lefties call people who want to hang on to their own private property "selfish".
I think a good opposite of "selfishmess" is "generosity".
If they force us to give up our private property literally at gun point, does that make us "generous"?
If a criminal holds you up, if we resist are we "selfish" but if we throw our wallet at him, we are "generous"?
Something is very wrong here... being forced to give doesn't make a person "generous" any more than being tied to a tree makes one "brave".
I think I need a drink.
| 785 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:42:31am |
re: #780 Dustyvet
And here I thought you once did a tour with the Vice Squad...:)
Nah, I don't have the legs for it. :)
| 786 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:43:41am |
re: #784 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Quick word game...
Lefties call people who want to hang on to their own private property "selfish".
I think a good opposite of "selfishmess" is "generosity".
If they force us to give up our private property literally at gun point, does that make us "generous"?
If a criminal holds you up, if we resist are we "selfish" but if we throw our wallet at him, we are "generous"?
Something is very wrong here... being forced to give doesn't make a person "generous" any more than being tied to a tree makes one "brave".
I think I need a drink.
Don't let the enemy set the terms of the debate.
| 787 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:44:08am |
re: #785 Wyatt Earp
Nah, I don't have the legs for it. :)
Shave them and get back with us... street standards are pretty low, you might be able to make a go of it after all.
| 788 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:44:21am |
re: #777 realwest
Reine, I used to be so inclined - ya know, talk to 'em (which often enough wound up talking at them) and try to bring 'em around, but there have been SO MANY in the last week alone (including the Spencer threads) that I just saw the pattern and was not in a mood to play with this one. If someone has been registered here for two years, claims they love the place and ultimately 50% of it's posts are from today where all it does is (politely, perhaps) bad mouth LGF and Charles, well I just don't have the patience for it anymore.
I'm nice to everybody...doesnt always work...I was called a troll and a racist by a poster I admired alot, for the simplest observation that had nothing to do with race...that right there taught me a lesson
| 789 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:44:29am |
re: #785 Wyatt Earp
Nah, I don't have the legs for it. :)
Maybe if you shaved them and wore sheer, black stockings....
| 790 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:45:01am |
re: #787 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Shave them and get back with us... street standards are pretty low, you might be able to make a go of it after all.
GET OUTTA' MAH HAID.
| 791 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:45:03am |
re: #785 Wyatt Earp
Nah, I don't have the legs for it. :)
I now have RC Cola all over the frigging place...:) God that burns going through the nose...:P
| 792 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:00am |
re: #768 MandyManners
I still am waging my quiet protest. Every time I'm in the grocery store or Wal*Mart, I pick up a magazine, thumb through it and then replace it over the TIME magazine with CBBHO on the cover. Every time.
Now I'll do so with the magazine displays that are not by the register.
Nyah. Nyah.
Good on you! And you'll be pleased to know, many of our mags are just drooling over the Obama family too
He even pushed Brangelina and Brittney off the covers..
| 793 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:01am |
re: #787 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good Morning LT.!
*salutes*
| 794 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:03am |
re: #790 MandyManners
GET OUTTA' MAH HAID.
Great minds thin... oh, who am I tryin' to kid... Hi Mandy!
| 795 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:06am |
re: #783 FrogMarch
Yep - and there's the rub. The left like to hide behind firefighters, police and school teachers to push their stealth unionization.
While the rest of us have deal with reality -- the reality of dwindling retirement and 401K's - the government union model insists that we the tax payer pony up more $$$ to make sure government pensions are not at all effected by the same economic reality. Unicorns for all!It’s for the Children™
pensions for these very groups have sunk CA...you should read some of the juicy deals these people get...out of this world
| 796 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:25am |
| 797 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:31am |
re: #791 Dustyvet
I now have RC Cola all over the frigging place...:) God that burns going through the nose...:P
snort some milk!
| 798 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:39am |
re: #793 HoosierHoops
Good Morning LT.!
*salutes*
Morning Hoosier!
Tell me its gonna be warm again soon. Lie if you have to.
| 799 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:46:55am |
re: #791 Dustyvet
I now have RC Cola all over the frigging place...:) God that burns going through the nose...:P
That's like, what, four keyboards I owe you?
| 800 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:47:10am |
| 801 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:47:32am |
re: #798 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning Hoosier!
Tell me its gonna be warm again soon. Lie if you have to.
Al Gore says it is NOW ,,
| 802 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:47:44am |
re: #798 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning Hoosier!
Tell me its gonna be warm again soon. Lie if you have to.
My apartment at the moment is colder then the arctic circle...
| 803 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:48:10am |
| 804 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:48:22am |
| 805 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:48:49am |
re: #782 Wyatt Earp
Thank you very much. It's been a long two days.
So you're from Philly Wyatt? I read about the officer in the paper yesterday. My condolences to you and yours.
| 806 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:48:49am |
re: #712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT! Yes, actually some of us have been saying "enough" or "NO MORE" for quite a while now!
Neither GM nor Chryseler were able to present anything like a coherent business plan in front of congress, went home, came up with one that indicated no profits at all for about 2 years, Congresscritters then got nasty about executive compensation, gave the big 2 (Ford just wanted a line of credit) a bailout which they burned through in less than two months, told them not to fly jets and let it go at that.
Nancy Pelosi then ok'd a raise for congresscritters, a nearly $100,000 a year INCREASE in non-accountable "expenses" for congresscritters, the UAW said NO to about 50 effin' proposals from GM and now they (the UAW) fully expect us, the taxpayers, to keep GM afloat.
| 807 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:48:58am |
re: #802 Dustyvet
My apartment at the moment is colder then the arctic circle...
Make a run to the White House... I hear its real balmy there.
/some pigs are more equal than others.
| 808 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:48:59am |
re: #798 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning Hoosier!
Tell me its gonna be warm again soon. Lie if you have to.
Can't wait till spring..Opening up the swimming pool..floating around working on my tan sipping a beer...
*dreaming*
| 809 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:49:13am |
link dump for CA pension debt...tsunami indeed and we are gonna pay for it out here in flyover land
[Link: pensiontsunami.com...]
| 810 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:49:35am |
re: #803 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That man is a dickhead... walking penis, with ears.
Thats an insult to both penises and ears
| 811 |
bellamags Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:49:57am |
Well lizards, i am going out to contribute to the economic recovery by shopping until my feet fall off. A little Valentines day anti-depression therapy. LOL. see yall later. Here's a cool video.
Watch till the end.
| 812 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:50:04am |
| 813 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:50:12am |
re: #805 x-wing
So you're from Philly Wyatt? I read about the officer in the paper yesterday. My condolences to you and yours.
Yep, City of Brotherly Love. *spit* Thanks, though. This is not the way we wanted to start off the year. John worked in my division.
| 814 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:50:13am |
re: #792 aussiemagpie
Good on you! And you'll be pleased to know, many of our mags are just drooling over the Obama family too
He even pushed Brangelina and Brittney off the covers..
Now, that's spooky.
| 815 |
gregg Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:50:29am |
So we make nice with the Iranians and Syrians, but tell the Brits to take a hike?
"Barack Obama has sent Sir Winston Churchill packing and pulse rates soaring among anxious British diplomats."
A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.
The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure.
But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
| 817 |
lennysquiggy Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:51:31am |
Anyone else see Axelrod on Meet the Press just now (10:48am). He started to say "Let's be honest..." but he cut himself off to say "Let's be clear..."
Funny stuff.
| 818 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:51:37am |
| 819 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:51:46am |
re: #813 Wyatt Earp
Yep, City of Brotherly Love. *spit* Thanks, though. This is not the way we wanted to start off the year. John worked in my division.
When will John's services take place?
| 820 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:51:59am |
re: #806 realwest
Good morning Real!
If GM had any stones at all... they'd come with a public statement that they cannot do business like this and tell the government "thanks, but no thanks", file for bankruptcy and rebuild the business along profitable lines.
Dump the union contracts, dump the legacy costs, build cars people really want and tell the damn government to go to hell.
| 821 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:52:25am |
Should have posted this last night.
No, it did not work. My neck is sore trying to inflate neck sack for hours and my face is red from getting slapped asking lady lizards to remove their outer covering.
/nsfw if you are a lizard (and you have to go through annoying commercial)
| 822 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:52:51am |
re: #729 J.D.
WHOA! If you have a fever and a bad cough, y'all ought to try to get medical help ASAP! Seriously, fevers almost always mean infections and the longer you wait to treat 'em the worse they get {J.D.}!
| 823 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:52:54am |
Let me see if I got this straight.
The MFM whined pissed and moaned every time GWB went back to Crawford for some R&R, being away from DC and all. Nevermind the comms setup that follows the POTUS.
Now with the MUST HAVE IT NOW stimulus package passed and awaiting signature. Where is Obama?
For the Obamas, a Valentine's date with Oprah's chef
If Porkzilla is so damn stinkin' important why didn't he stay in DC to sign it?
And where's the MFM's traditional whine of the last 8 years when the POTUS left DC when important matters where pending?
*spit*
Morning Honco Lizards.
| 824 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:53:42am |
re: #815 gregg
So we make nice with the Iranians and Syrians, but tell the Brits to take a hike?
"Barack Obama has sent Sir Winston Churchill packing and pulse rates soaring among anxious British diplomats."
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
Chicken-shit, Commie bastard cannot abide looking at the image of a brave defender of liberty.
| 825 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:54:15am |
re: #795 albusteve
pensions for these very groups have sunk CA...you should read some of the juicy deals these people get...out of this world
yep.
| 826 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:54:55am |
re: #819 Dustyvet
When will John's services take place?
Haven't been announced yet. Should be this week, though.
| 827 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:55:25am |
re: #814 MandyManners
Now, that's spooky.
He's so handsome and dreamy and Michelle is a real glamour! ///
*YUK*
| 828 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:55:29am |
I hope OR is having fun in Uruguay where it's warm.
| 829 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:55:40am |
re: #823 jcm
Let me see if I got this straight.
The MFM whined pissed and moaned every time GWB went back to Crawford for some R&R, being away from DC and all. Nevermind the comms setup that follows the POTUS.
Now with the MUST HAVE IT NOW stimulus package passed and awaiting signature. Where is Obama?
For the Obamas, a Valentine's date with Oprah's chef
If Porkzilla is so damn stinkin' important why didn't he stay in DC to sign it?
And where's the MFM's traditional whine of the last 8 years when the POTUS left DC when important matters where pending?*spit*
Morning Honco Lizards.
I think this is significant (I posted it around dawn)...someone needs to call him out on this stuff if it continues...hypocricy is easy to expose if one has that notion
| 830 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:56:17am |
re: #823 jcm
Not every member of the MFM will go along with this shit as time goes by.
| 832 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:57:04am |
re: #826 Wyatt Earp
Haven't been announced yet. Should be this week, though.
I'd like to send a card to his widow and children.
| 833 |
Pietr Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:57:13am |
re: #820 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning Real!
If GM had any stones at all... they'd come with a public statement that they cannot do business like this and tell the government "thanks, but no thanks", file for bankruptcy and rebuild the business along profitable lines.
Dump the union contracts, dump the legacy costs, build cars people really want and tell the damn government to go to hell.
'Morning All. GM won't do that VMP(1Lt)-it's not in their nature. Back when FDR(?) created the NRA (National Recovery Act?), GM joined in the PRICE Fixing-Ford refused to. That act also put a lot of peeps in jail for refusing to price fix at Fed Govt orders......:>((
| 834 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:57:19am |
re: #828 MandyManners
It sounded great.
I used to want to go to Europe but I am beginning to think that S. and Central America is better suited for N. American lizards.
| 835 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:57:31am |
re: #751 FrogMarch
Agreed. Modern strict labor laws make unions unnecessary. Unions are now exclusively a political pay-to-play socialist scheme. In any event - 95% of the time -when a union touches an American business - that business is forever ruined.
case in point - the American Steel industry.
Just remember the words of the late, great, George Carlin: "The first priority of any Union Executive is to avoid becoming a member of the working class."
| 836 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:57:39am |
re: #827 aussiemagpie
He's so handsome and dreamy and Michelle is a real glamour! ///
*YUK*
He's a nice-looking man who's usually dressed well, and she's not ugly but, POLITICS IS NOT ABOUT GLAMOUR!
| 837 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:58:34am |
re: #834 unclassifiable
It sounded great.
I used to want to go to Europe but I am beginning to think that S. and Central America is better suited for N. American lizards.
Especially in the Winter.
| 838 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:59:10am |
re: #826 Wyatt Earp
Haven't been announced yet. Should be this week, though.
I am so sorry for his family and friends..
I went on a ride around with an Indy cop I know last year..It was pretty exciting..But I could never be a policeman..Those folks get all my respect
| 839 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 7:59:55am |
re: #824 MandyManners
Chicken-shit, Commie bastard cannot abide looking at the image of a brave defender of liberty.
Fakes can't stand to be around the real thing of what they are faking.
| 840 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:00:15am |
re: #835 realwest
Just remember the words of the late, great, George Carlin: "The first priority of any Union Executive is to avoid becoming a member of the working class."
The wisdom of George Carlin.
| 841 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:01:19am |
re: #832 Dustyvet
I'd like to send a card to his widow and children.
When I get the info, I'll post it.
| 842 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:02:12am |
re: #823 jcm
Saw an article in the paper Friday that basically said Obama doesn't need to be at the White House because whereever he maybe, it's like he's sitting in the Oval Office (because of todays technology)
Needless to say, once I picked my jaw up off the floo I said, WFT, where did all this technology come from in the last 3 weeks.
/grrrr
| 843 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:02:23am |
re: #839 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Fakes can't stand to be around the real thing of what they are faking.
He's indicted in his own mind.
| 844 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:02:26am |
| 845 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:03:27am |
| 846 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:03:47am |
re: #838 HoosierHoops
I am so sorry for his family and friends..
I went on a ride around with an Indy cop I know last year..It was pretty exciting..But I could never be a policeman..Those folks get all my respect
Eh, I'm not special. Firemen are braver than I am. I ran into a burning building once . . . that's all I needed to realize that I was an idiot for trying.
| 847 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:04:05am |
re: #843 MandyManners
He's indicted in his own mind.
Yup. Deep inside, he knows he is a pretender among giants.
/That's going to surface in strange, unusual, and evil ways in the next four years. Not to mention, lack of class.
| 848 |
debutaunt Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:04:35am |
re: #843 MandyManners
Mandy, this reminded me of the discussion about spiders yesterday:
UNDERSTANDING WOMEN
(A MAN'S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I'm not going to understand women.
I'll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax,
pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the root,
and still be afraid of a spider.
| 849 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:05:11am |
re: #824 MandyManners
Chicken-shit, Commie bastard cannot abide looking at the image of a brave defender of liberty.
Actually it makes perfect sense. Winston Churchill is a historical giant, a great and brave man, a hero in the fight against evil. Obama - not so much.
| 850 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:05:14am |
re: #762 MandyManners
Uh, yes, theorhetically you're correct. However, in the real world of politics, if the big bosses say vote, you vote. Those folks (Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader) decide who get's what committee assignments, how big a staff, what kind of office, etc. etc. That's why they are called "leaders" in Congress.
Some folks DID push back - privately and were slapped down by Pelosi (mostly). I wish you were right. I wish EVERY member of Congress would act in a free, normal, unfettered way, but 'tis never been that way.
Put it another way - you finally have a job for two years, anyway. You'd kinda like to keep it for another or two or more years and then maybe try to move up to become a Senator. Pissing off your party's leadership is not considered a "wise" political move.
| 851 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:05:22am |
re: #847 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Yup. Deep inside, he knows he is a pretender among giants.
/That's going to surface in strange, unusual, and evil ways in the next four years. Not to mention, lack of class.
Or, maybe he hates Churchill and what he stood for.
| 853 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:05:46am |
re: #747 realwest
Morning Harry Tuttle! Well I don't want to intrude here, but I am a lawyer (albeit retired from practice) and a former Associate Professor of Law (adjunct) and I'll say that Ben and Tom would probably have been pretty effin' upset about this whole Pork Bill too - but if they thought it was necessary for the FEDERAL government to do it to save the United States, they'd have gone with it.
The real problem here is that although everyone was rushed to vote for this One thousand plus page bill, Obama can't be rushed to sign it until Tuesday.
That's the kind of chicanery and bullshit that annoys the hell out of me - many members admitted - on TV - that they'd been forced to vote for this bill without being able to read it, or have their staff read it, because of the BIG RUSH Pelosi and Reid put on getting it passed.
There's a lot in the earlier, 759 page bill which I did read - I lead such an exciting life - that I hated with a passion - but even I don't have time to read the whole damn thing. THAT would have Pissed off Franklin and Jefferson NO END - that the representatives of the People "had" to vote on such an enormous "Stimulus Bill" - which everyone knew was loaded with pork - without the chance to read it or for a reaoned debate about it.
But I think it's constitutional, though I can't say for sure cause I haven't read all of the bill; there are parts which may not be constitutional.
And, fwiw, I think Obama's trying to take over the Census (which is separate and apart from this bill, I think,) is indeed unconstitutional.
Harry Tuttle 3 step plan to good government:
1. All political office holders get full audit of the five years prior to being in office and then every year after that until they die. All audit data is public information.
2. Taxes are paid on the same day we vote.
3. No bill can be longer than the Constitution.
| 854 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:05:50am |
re: #850 realwest
PIMF: CRAP hit post instead of spell check. Damnit.
| 855 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:06:02am |
re: #830 MandyManners
Not every member of the MFM will go along with this shit as time goes by.
Later rather than sooner.
| 856 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:06:19am |
re: #836 MandyManners
He's a nice-looking man who's usually dressed well, and she's not ugly but, POLITICS IS NOT ABOUT GLAMOUR!
Exactly!
Tell that to the womens mags....but it won't be long before someone's battle against cellulite and someone else's struggle against belly blubber takes front page standing again
| 857 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:06:49am |
re: #837 MandyManners
Looks like we are going to need a little bailout money to fly and entertain all of the lizards down there.
Let's see what could we classify this as?
Oh yeah, A Cultural Diversity Retreat to Examine Ancient Paradigms in American Political Culture.
I'll start working on the grant to the State Department and the NEA:)
| 858 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:07:02am |
re: #842 x-wing
Saw an article in the paper Friday that basically said Obama doesn't need to be at the White House because whereever he maybe, it's like he's sitting in the Oval Office (because of todays technology)
Needless to say, once I picked my jaw up off the floo I said, WFT, where did all this technology come from in the last 3 weeks.
/grrrr
GWB was anti-science and technology...
That's it!
////////
| 859 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:07:56am |
re: #848 debutaunt
Mandy, this reminded me of the discussion about spiders yesterday:
UNDERSTANDING WOMEN
(A MAN'S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I'm not going to understand women.
I'll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax,
pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the root,
and still be afraid of a spider.
I'll never understand that bit about the wax. However, I'm not afraid of a spider--I just kill them. Smash them. Squish them. Pulverize them.
| 860 |
razorbacker Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:08:11am |
I'll see y'all a little bit later down the road.
Try not to get your fingers caught up in the gears while tinkering with the mighty engine of justice.
| 861 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:08:33am |
re: #849 FrogMarch
Actually it makes perfect sense. Winston Churchill is a historical giant, a great and brave man, a hero in the fight against evil. Obama - not so much.
Or, CBBHO stands for that evil and hates liberty.
| 863 |
rain of lead Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:09:16am |
Oh no,
hamas tv, terror bear replaces assud the jew eating rabbit
" a teddy bear, why the hell did it have to be a teddy bear"
morning lizards
| 864 |
debutaunt Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:09:26am |
re: #859 MandyManners
I'm with you on both accounts, Mandy.
| 865 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:09:49am |
re: #850 realwest
Uh, yes, theorhetically you're correct. However, in the real world of politics, if the big bosses say vote, you vote. Those folks (Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader) decide who get's what committee assignments, how big a staff, what kind of office, etc. etc. That's why they are called "leaders" in Congress.
Some folks DID push back - privately and were slapped down by Pelosi (mostly). I wish you were right. I wish EVERY member of Congress would act in a free, normal, unfettered way, but 'tis never been that way.
Put it another way - you finally have a job for two years, anyway. You'd kinda like to keep it for another or two or more years and then maybe try to move up to become a Senator. Pissing off your party's leadership is not considered a "wise" political move.
That might be the Democrats' feelings but, the GOP needs better leadership in both chambers.
| 866 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:09:52am |
re: #861 MandyManners
Or, CBBHO stands for that evil and hates liberty.
btw - what does the CB in CBBHO stand for?
Commie bastard?
Cry baby?
| 867 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:10:25am |
re: #863 rain of lead
Oh no,
hamas tv, terror bear replaces assud the jew eating rabbit
" a teddy bear, why the hell did it have to be a teddy bear"morning lizards
I voted for the maggot...
| 868 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:10:47am |
Good morning Comrades. All are directed to wipe clean your Obama commemorative plate with your Shamwow & prominently display it.
You should periodically view the image of the Dear Leader while wearing your Party approved Snuggie. Carry on.
| 870 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:12:23am |
re: #852 Iron Fist
Like just about everything else, it depends on what State you are in. Bizzarly enough, some states allow you to own a vest, but make it illegal to own it. And I can tell you from personal experience that if you walk into a police station and try and ask that simple question (is it legal) they will look at you like you are a three-headed talking frog.
Remember that huge gun battle in Southern California a few years ago in which the bad guys (bank robbers?) had Kevlar vests and better weapons than the police?
I can understand why the polce would look at you funny 'cause usually needing a vest means you're planning on either shooting them or getting into a battle with someone else. Maybe I'm wrong.
| 871 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:12:49am |
| 872 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:13:17am |
re: #868 opnion
Good morning Comrades. All are directed to wipe clean your Obama commemorative plate with your Shamwow & prominently display it.
You should periodically view the image of the Dear Leader while wearing your Party approved Snuggie. Carry on.
Remember during your weekly neighbor self recrimination sessions visible dust on the required portrait will result in an extra 100 hours community service.
| 873 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:13:26am |
| 874 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:13:44am |
re: #870 MandyManners
Remember that huge gun battle in Southern California a few years ago in which the bad guys (bank robbers?) had Kevlar vests and better weapons than the police?
I can understand why the polce would look at you funny 'cause usually needing a vest means you're planning on either shooting them or getting into a battle with someone else. Maybe I'm wrong.
North Hollywood shootout...it was a huge mess
| 875 |
Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:13:57am |
re: #868 opnion
Good morning Comrades. All are directed to wipe clean your Obama commemorative plate with your Shamwow & prominently display it.
You should periodically view the image of the Dear Leader while wearing your Party approved Snuggie. Carry on.
Morning opnion and Lizards.
Can I wipe may fat ass and put it on display? It is not pretty but has to be better than what 44 has in store for us.
| 876 |
debutaunt Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:14:07am |
re: #868 opnion
Good morning Comrades. All are directed to wipe clean your Obama commemorative plate with your Shamwow & prominently display it.
You should periodically view the image of the Dear Leader while wearing your Party approved Snuggie. Carry on.
Put down the clicker, opnion.
| 877 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:14:25am |
re: #857 unclassifiable
Looks like we are going to need a little bailout money to fly and entertain all of the lizards down there.
Let's see what could we classify this as?
Oh yeah, A Cultural Diversity Retreat to Examine Ancient Paradigms in American Political Culture.
I'll start working on the grant to the State Department and the NEA:)
Maybe throw in something about studying GW.
| 878 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:14:38am |
re: #872 jcm
Remember during your weekly neighbor self recrimination sessions visible dust on the required portrait will result in an extra 100 hours community service.
I gave mine to an avid skeet shooter...:)
| 879 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:15:07am |
re: #875 Erik The Red
Morning opnion and Lizards.
Can I wipe may fat ass and put it on display? It is not pretty but has to be better than what 44 has in store for us.
Hey Eric! How is the scotch and weather?
| 880 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:15:43am |
re: #863 rain of lead
Oh no,
hamas tv, terror bear replaces assud the jew eating rabbit
" a teddy bear, why the hell did it have to be a teddy bear"morning lizards
The poll on my blog elected the Maggot.
| 881 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:15:44am |
re: #864 debutaunt
I'm with you on both accounts, Mandy.
In my house, the only good spider is a dead spider.
| 882 |
gregg Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:15:48am |
re: #874 albusteve
North Hollywood shootout...it was a huge mess
I can't remember, did it inspire a movie, or was it inspired by a movie?
| 883 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:16:16am |
re: #866 FrogMarch
btw - what does the CB in CBBHO stand for?
Commie bastard?
Cry baby?
Commie Bastard.
| 884 |
debutaunt Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:16:53am |
re: #877 MandyManners
Maybe throw in something about studying GW.
I've heard of ShamWow, is GW GreenWow?
| 885 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:16:58am |
re: #881 MandyManners
In my house, the only good spider is a dead spider.
my older sister will take a sledge hammer to a daddy long legs...screaming bloody murder
| 886 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:17:10am |
re: #869 Iron Fist
All I can say is Dayaum! The motherfucker is really going out of his way to denigrate western culture and values. I guess that sir Winston was a little too white for the current administration. I wouldn't have thought it likely that Obama would give his clear anti-white prejudice show this obviously, especially this early in his term.
I don't necessarily see it in terms of color.
| 887 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:17:21am |
re: #873 MandyManners
Good reporters typically are fickle critters.
Ahhh, I doubt the existence of a Good reporter.
| 888 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:17:50am |
re: #877 MandyManners
Maybe throw in something about studying GW.
No, we want to get the grant from the Obama minions. They do not need to know the "technical details" of the agenda.
I'll order the 10 42 gallon drums of industrial strength BS this is going to take
| 889 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:17:53am |
| 890 |
rain of lead Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:18:19am |
re: #880 Alouette
The poll on my blog elected the Maggot.
clearly, the ballot box,like the bear, was stuffed. :0
| 891 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:18:45am |
| 892 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:19:39am |
re: #885 albusteve
my older sister will take a sledge hammer to a daddy long legs...screaming bloody murder
I don't mind them so much but, I will smash 'em.
| 893 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:19:48am |
re: #820 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) "If GM had any stones at all" aye and there's the rub!
The exec's at GM are afraid they'd either lose their jobs or take pay cuts if they went into bankruptcy.
And then who'd hire 'em? I mean, if you're resume basically shows you earned $200,000 a year for a company that hasn't made a profit in 4 years, you were in a position to propose ideas that might have helped and didn't, AND it's tight job market - especially for heterosexual White Men over 50 years of age - would YOU want to file for bankruptcy?!?
Besides, the GM exec's know that Obama will take care of them because of the UAW - he owes SO MUCH to the UAW that GM knows he won't throw the companies to the wolves of bankruptcy.
In many ways, the problems faced by the auto industry have little to do with Unions and a LOT to do with executives who really didn't earn their keep, IMO.
| 894 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:19:52am |
re: #872 jcm
Remember during your weekly neighbor self recrimination sessions visible dust on the required portrait will result in an extra 100 hours community service.
Than you for pointing that out. That of course is the correction for the first offense. Subsequent offenses will be treated harshly on a case by case basis.
| 895 |
debutaunt Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:03am |
| 896 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:19am |
re: #882 gregg
I can't remember, did it inspire a movie, or was it inspired by a movie?
just a coupla guys that did a bank and couldn't get away...they had a bunch of assault rifles and vests and bags of ammo so they just shot it out and gunned down a whole lot of people including cops...the cops fought back with pistols and shotguns til they got some big stuff from a local gun shop...they ultimately killed both perps
| 897 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:20am |
re: #887 jcm
Ahhh, I doubt the existence of a Good reporter.
I don't. But, maybe that's my prejudice speaking. I once was one.
| 899 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:29am |
re: #889 MandyManners
Didn't all the bad guys get dead?
Eventually. Cops had to get ARs from a gun store to fight back.
| 900 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:40am |
re: #884 debutaunt
I've heard of ShamWow, is GW GreenWow?
How did ShamWow get connected with the Obamanation?
Wait a minute. Are you implying that we are going to need a lot of ShamWows to clean up his mess.
Please reply in the next 20 minutes because we don't got all day here:)
/my favorite
| 901 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:42am |
Rep. Waters says she is not opposed to nationalizing the Banks on this week with George stephanopoulos
| 902 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:20:57am |
re: #888 unclassifiable
No, we want to get the grant from the Obama minions. They do not need to know the "technical details" of the agenda.
I'll order the 10 42 gallon drums of industrial strength BS this is going to take
But, throwing in GW will make them think we're on their side.
| 903 |
Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:21:03am |
re: #879 HoosierHoops
Hey Eric! How is the scotch and weather?
Scotch is great weather is shit. Rain and low 70's. But hey who cares.
| 904 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:21:19am |
re: #889 MandyManners
Didn't all the bad guys get dead?
They did, indeed. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
| 905 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:22:19am |
re: #902 MandyManners
Oh, Gorebull Warning.
Geez I thought you were talking about the ex-pres.
OK -- I'll get right on it.
| 906 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:22:37am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Another bright and shiny winter day in the valley and it's not too cold so I think I'll drag Lil Miss out this arvo to terrorize the 'hood. I need a little exercise too ...
{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* Holy cow - when I asked you to keep an eye out for me today that's NOT what I meant!
Seriously, I hope it's not a bad problem and is due to stress or something and you probably need some rest. *crosses fingers*
| 907 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:23:11am |
Bedtime here as it's after 3am, and I was intending to watch Marcos Ambrose drive the Daytona 500 - well a bit of it before I have to head for work - the race broadcast starts here at 6am
More sad stuff about the horrific Victorian bushfires
Pets pine for their owners....
ANIMAL shelters are searching for the owners of hundreds of dogs, cats, horses, rabbits and other pets displaced by fires.
Shelter workers fear many owners may have assumed their animals died or they could be looking for them in the wrong places.
and.....for the kitty admirers here....
She expects a lot more animals, especially cats, to turn up in coming days."Cats are amazing survivors. A lot of them will have found shelter when the fire went through, and now they will be starting to return to their homes," she said.
Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!
| 908 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:23:21am |
re: #875 Erik The Red
Morning opnion and Lizards.
Can I wipe may fat ass and put it on display? It is not pretty but has to be better than what 44 has in store for us.
Apparently you have not yet attended Party approved self criticism sessions yet.
While not yet mandatory, attendance is highly recommended if ya get my drift.
| 909 |
Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:24:03am |
re: #893 realwest
"If GM had any stones at all" aye and there's the rub!
The exec's at GM are afraid they'd either lose their jobs or take pay cuts if they went into bankruptcy.
And then who'd hire 'em? I mean, if you're resume basically shows you earned $200,000 a year for a company that hasn't made a profit in 4 years, you were in a position to propose ideas that might have helped and didn't, AND it's tight job market - especially for heterosexual White Men over 50 years of age - would YOU want to file for bankruptcy?!?
Besides, the GM exec's know that Obama will take care of them because of the UAW - he owes SO MUCH to the UAW that GM knows he won't throw the companies to the wolves of bankruptcy.
In many ways, the problems faced by the auto industry have little to do with Unions and a LOT to do with executives who really didn't earn their keep, IMO.
As long as there is bailout (our money) available they will not change. Let them sink and restructure.
| 910 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:24:22am |
re: #898 Iron Fist
Yeah, I remember that robbery. The cops wound up taking them out with some rifles borrowed from a near-by gun shop. As far as the vest goes, they arn't hard to get. I used to have one. They completely suck in the comfort department. My question to the cops was after I had been the victim of a violent crime, so it isn't as unusual a question as you might think.
The cops in question were too busy trying to fine any discrepancies of loopholes in general to justify not charging the motherfuckers. At the time, I considered rounding up a couple of dozen people and going hunting. I did the "good citizen" thing, instead. I am reminded of the Funeral Director in the Godfather. I tried to live within the system, and look what I got for my efforts.
Someone posted last night about proposed ammo. laws in various states, Tennessee included. (I posted to you about it.) However, the proposed bills' numbers are found no where on the General Assembly's stie. In fact, the numbers are nothing similar to those used by the GA.
So, I searched "ammunition" on the site. There was nothing there remotely like what the alarming link stated. Have you found anything?
| 911 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:24:26am |
re: #904 Wyatt Earp
They did, indeed. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
the film footage of that is really remarkable...the sidewalk shooter with the AK finally jammed so he went to his pistol and went down point blank from a cop with his pistol...then shot himself in the head...all on tape
| 912 |
jwb7605 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:24:34am |
Drive by post, probably, since I'm having Internet issues this morning.
I put this in the spinoff links:
Philippines: Terrorists Quit Over Pay Dispute
I like the name of the group: MILF.
| 913 |
Ojoe Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:24:47am |
The Intelligent Design movement starts with the recognition that “In the beginning was the Word,” and “In the beginning God created.” Establishing that point isn’t enough, but it is absolutely essential to the rest of the gospel message.— Phillip E. Johnson, founder of “intelligent design”
1. Who needs you to establish that?
2. It is enough anyway.
3. Go away.
Here are the chilly San Gabriel Mountains this morning. The Towercam.
Good morning all.
| 914 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:25:02am |
re: #899 jcm
Eventually. Cops had to get ARs from a gun store to fight back.
That's a sad commentary on the police. I trust they've beefed up since then.
| 915 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:25:19am |
re: #897 MandyManners
I don't. But, maybe that's my prejudice speaking. I once was one.
re: #897 MandyManners
I don't. But, maybe that's my prejudice speaking. I once was one.
The locals where just gushing this weekend over the stimulus package. Hardly one word about the opposition to it.
Good reporters would have been all over everything we found around here about CBBHO.
Maybe you need to get back into the game and be the GOOD reporter!
;-)
| 916 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:25:20am |
Hmm, overnigt ID Thread, what is the casualty count?
| 917 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:25:42am |
*Obama’s Broken Promises Were Entirely Predictable
*This op-ed will not be allowed under the Fairness doctrine - or in Hugo Chavez's utopia.
| 918 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:25:53am |
re: #911 albusteve
the film footage of that is really remarkable...the sidewalk shooter with the AK finally jammed so he went to his pistol and went down point blank from a cop with his pistol...then shot himself in the head...all on tape
The video was shown to us at our annual training the next year.
| 919 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:25:56am |
re: #901 HoosierHoops
Rep. Waters says she is not opposed to nationalizing the Banks on this week with George stephanopoulos
Another fucking Commie pops up!
Wasn't she the one who talked about "socializing" a part of the economy?
| 920 |
rain of lead Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:26:45am |
haven't had a gorebull warming solar update in awhile..."let's go check"
....................
ok, the sun is still blank,sunspot activity is nill, the latest solar cycle is
still refusing to start(damn sun) but solar wind output is a very brisk
556 km/s
| 921 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:27:03am |
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
It is the ultimate "gentleman's agreement". Rather than compete for females, male long-tailed manakins co-operate with their friends. The tropical birds pair up to perform a courtship song and dance, but the alpha male gets the girl every time.
Meanwhile his "wingman" spends five years playing second fiddle. But he eventually inherits the mating site.
Outta here for a day or so - have fun!
| 922 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:27:17am |
re: #914 MandyManners
That's a sad commentary on the police. I trust they've beefed up since then.
Maybe in L.A. In Philly, we still use 9mm pistols. Only SWAT has shotguns and assault rifles.
| 923 |
Timbre Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:27:30am |
Nasir Abdul Kareem al-Wahayshi (a.k.a. Abu Basir) says
Al-Qaeda has had a nuclear weapon since before 9-11-2001.
| 924 |
Erik The Red Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:27:31am |
re: #916 opnion
Hmm, overnigt ID Thread, what is the casualty count?
Not one I think. The trolls and creationist have been well behaved.
| 925 |
gregg Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:28:11am |
re: #896 albusteve
Did a little looking around and read that some feel the movie "Heat" with DeNiro/Pacino inspired the North Hollywood bank shootout. I guess there's no way to know for sure...
| 926 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:28:11am |
David Axlerod is now on Meet the Press. He just said that they don't want
to politicize the census , they want the "beat census ever."
Sounds like . "The most transparent Administration ever"
| 927 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:28:33am |
re: #893 realwest
Lot of motivation there to make the reorganization succeed. Bankruptcy not meaning "out of business, get a new job" but rather as "Let's put this frigging thing together in a way that works... but we need a little credit protection while we do"...but you already knew that.
Part of the problem is older people have a hard time taking that chance ("I can do anything" being an attitude of the young). So, the alternative is that young stars set up and run _good_ car companies that put the dinosaurs in their place (the way the market is supposed to work).
But can't if the dinosaurs are being propped up by foolish execs and workers and a nanny government.
Meaning, the young turks never get off the ground and we are screwed.
| 928 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:01am |
re: #915 jcm
The locals where just gushing this weekend over the stimulus package. Hardly one word about the opposition to it.
Good reporters would have been all over everything we found around here about CBBHO.
Maybe you need to get back into the game and be the GOOD reporter!
;-)
Who owns your local paper? Not the publisher but, the corporation?
There is not enough money for me to get back into reporting. No matter how enlightened and liberal newsrooms may seem, many are staffed by bigots and sexist pigs.
| 929 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:01am |
re: #919 MandyManners
Another fucking Commie pops up!
Wasn't she the one who talked about "socializing" a part of the economy?
yup..she is the one...
| 930 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:10am |
re: #919 MandyManners
Another fucking Commie pops up!
Wasn't she the one who talked about "socializing" a part of the economy?
Sergei: This Obama - will he be the new Czar, then?
Kuril: Listen Daddy - no more Czars! No more masters! Only workers in a workers' state! How about that?!
| 931 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:21am |
re: #922 Wyatt Earp
Maybe in L.A. In Philly, we still use 9mm pistols. Only SWAT has shotguns and assault rifles.
Wyatt,
When you go down to Mexico City the damn private security has MP5s.
| 932 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:42am |
re: #916 opnion
Hmm, overnigt ID Thread, what is the casualty count?
Genexer loooks to be one as soon as Charles sees her melt-down.
| 933 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:43am |
re: #916 opnion
Hmm, overnigt ID Thread, what is the casualty count?
I was here till 5am EST and didn't see any meltdowns.
| 934 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:29:58am |
| 935 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:30:02am |
{Wyatt} How terrible, this news. Please accept my condolences and may justice be harsh on the murderer.
I grew up with cops in the family and it was stressful, but nothing like what today's cops face. It's unbelievable.
| 936 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:30:12am |
re: #918 Wyatt Earp
The video was shown to us at our annual training the next year.
I'll bet nearly every cop in America has seen that by now...there was some real courage on display that day too
| 937 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:30:23am |
re: #931 unclassifiable
Wyatt,
When you go down to Mexico City the damn private security has MP5s.
I'm too scared to go down to Mexico City! :)
| 938 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:31:10am |
re: #918 Wyatt Earp
Did they ever figure out what that group was about? Shooting oneself in the head seems rather extreme for a common bank robber.
| 939 |
MJ Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:31:28am |
How do you all like this loaded headline and story by al-Reuters:
Israeli brinkmanship puts Gaza truce in peril
JERUSALEM, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Outgoing Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is mounting a last-ditch effort to free a captured Israeli soldier by blocking an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire in the Gaza Strip until Hamas agrees to release him.
Whether Olmert's brinkmanship can produce a breakthrough in the few weeks he has left depends on Israel making difficult concessions that could bolster Hamas, and on the Islamist group taking a gamble on the Jewish state keeping its word. Many diplomats are sceptical all the pieces will fall in place.
Hamas has no faith that Israel, which is about to change governments, will abide by commitments under the proposed ceasefire, mainly to keep Gaza's border crossings open, if captured soldier Gilad Shalit is freed...
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
One of the more ant-Israel screeds in at least a week from these Jew-hating, terrorist supporting scum at Reuters.
| 940 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:31:43am |
re: #925 gregg
Did a little looking around and read that some feel the movie "Heat" with DeNiro/Pacino inspired the North Hollywood bank shootout. I guess there's no way to know for sure...
Heat was an awsome movie...I knew you were thinking that but couldn't remember the title
| 941 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:31:51am |
re: #935 Miss Trixie
{Wyatt} How terrible, this news. Please accept my condolences and may justice be harsh on the murderer.
I grew up with cops in the family and it was stressful, but nothing like what today's cops face. It's unbelievable.
Thank you, {Trixie}
| 942 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:31:57am |
re: #922 Wyatt Earp
Maybe in L.A. In Philly, we still use 9mm pistols. Only SWAT has shotguns and assault rifles.
Uniform cars don't carry shotguns?
| 944 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:32:30am |
re: #929 HoosierHoops
I seem to recall seeing the folks around her had a hard time stifling their smiles and giggles.
| 945 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:32:34am |
re: #926 opnion
David Axlerod is now on Meet the Press. He just said that they don't want
to politicize the census , they want the "beatbest census ever."
Sounds like . "The most transparent Administration ever"
best = more potential Democrats
The best hope for us is that their butt is way overdrawn on the "Obama as a Lightworker" meme.
| 946 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:33:01am |
re: #914 MandyManners
That's a sad commentary on the police. I trust they've beefed up since then.
California banned ARs mostly.
I look at it the other way, with want I bought and the sights I have I could have engaged the perps at 500 yards. Which the the way they were shooting was outside their effective range. In any given neighborhood you'd get half a dozen folks easily who could have done that.
But in CA and IL and the like, it's not good for the citizens to have that ability.
| 947 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:33:01am |
re: #930 Harry Tuttle
Sergei: This Obama - will he be the new Czar, then?
Kuril: Listen Daddy - no more Czars! No more masters! Only workers in a workers' state! How about that?!
I'm at a loss. Which book?
| 948 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:33:04am |
re: #901 HoosierHoops
Rep. Waters says she is not opposed to nationalizing the Banks on this week with George stephanopoulos
Somebody had to feed her the word "nationalizing'
During Congressional Hearings with the Oil Execs, she first threatened to 'Socialize" Oops! She then stuttered & stammered like BHO before she found the right word "Nationalize"
| 949 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:33:31am |
re: #938 MandyManners
Did they ever figure out what that group was about? Shooting oneself in the head seems rather extreme for a common bank robber.
death wish...they had a few thousand rounds of ammo between them...the getaway car got shot up and they were separated...doomed
| 950 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:33:50am |
re: #939 MJ
How do you all like this loaded headline and story by al-Reuters:
Israeli brinkmanship puts Gaza truce in peril
[Link: www.reuters.com...]One of the more ant-Israel screeds in at least a week from these Jew-hating, terrorist supporting scum at Reuters.
Fuck Reuters.
I expect nothing but that from it.
| 951 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:34:53am |
| 952 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:35:34am |
re: #933 x-wing
I was here till 5am EST and didn't see any meltdowns.
I think a lot of the more vocal trolls and socks got sticked in one massive purge the other day.
/ I can hope, can't I?
| 953 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:35:56am |
| 954 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:35:59am |
re: #919 MandyManners
Another fucking Commie pops up!
Wasn't she the one who talked about "socializing" a part of the economy?
yep....
| 955 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:36:09am |
re: #946 jcm
California banned ARs mostly.
I look at it the other way, with want I bought and the sights I have I could have engaged the perps at 500 yards. Which the the way they were shooting was outside their effective range. In any given neighborhood you'd get half a dozen folks easily who could have done that.But in CA and IL and the like, it's not good for the citizens to have that ability.
If I were a cop, I doubt I would want the residents to engage the bad guys while I'm doing the same.
| 956 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:36:23am |
re: #923 Timbre
Nasir Abdul Kareem al-Wahayshi (a.k.a. Abu Basir) says
Al-Qaeda has had a nuclear weapon since before 9-11-2001.
Bullshit.
If they had one, they'd have used it or threatened to use it by now.
Sorry, Abu, that waterballoon you are holding is not a nuclear weapon no matter how many radiation warnings you put on it.
| 958 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:36:35am |
re: #930 Harry Tuttle
Sergei: This Obama - will he be the new Czar, then?
Kuril:Listen Daddy - no more Czars! No more masters! Only workers in a workers' state! How about that?!Yes.
Man, I think about that scene all the time. Great movie though.
| 959 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:36:44am |
re: #952 FurryOldGuyJeans
There's still a lot of sockpuppets out there. Just give it time, there will be more.
| 960 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:36:45am |
re: #865 MandyManners
WHAT?! Better leadership than Pelosi and Reid? What? Those two hacks got to where they got to because they are politicians - Pelosi is a Female Dem from San Francisco - I figure her re-election is secure for as long as she wants to be in the House of Reps or until she dies.
Harry Reid the same (although he's more vulnerable cause he hasn't done much to help out the city of Lost Wages and the Casino owners ain't happy with him) but he can overcome that and stay in office until he wants to quit or dies, just like Pelosi.
It's hard to "lead" when you are in such a minority position in Congress, yet the House Republican leadership DID get ALL of the house Repub's to oppose this ridiculous spending bill (and persuaded, iirc, 11 Dems to join them) and the Senate Minority Leadership got all of the Repub's to vote against it; unfortunately Specter, Collins and Snowe have an (R) after their names, so the bill passed the Senate as well.
Add to that the the White House and the MSM are OWNED by Obama (D-Ill) and tell me how "better" leadership among the Republican Congresscritters would have made a difference?
| 961 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:36:59am |
| 962 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:37:02am |
| 963 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:37:16am |
re: #949 albusteve
death wish...they had a few thousand rounds of ammo between them...the getaway car got shot up and they were separated...doomed
It still doesn't make sense to blow one's brains out unless you're engaged in something "greater" than mere robbery. I reckon I've never thought of "thuggery" as an ideology.
| 964 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:38:00am |
re: #952 FurryOldGuyJeans
I think a lot of the more vocal trolls and socks got sticked in one massive purge the other day.
/ I can hope, can't I?
That was something to see. Stinkys' "stick hand" had to be tired after that.
| 965 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:38:23am |
re: #955 MandyManners
If I were a cop, I doubt I would want the residents to engage the bad guys while I'm doing the same.
the North Hollywood thing might have been an exception..the cops were getting hammered bad
| 966 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:38:45am |
re: #953 Wyatt Earp
Nope. Welcome to Philadelphia.
Around these parts every car has a shot gun, every shift has about a third of the cars with an AR and or MP5.
On the civilian side, 1 in 25 in WA State have a concealed carry permit.
| 967 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:38:52am |
re: #960 realwest
WHAT?! Better leadership than Pelosi and Reid? What? Those two hacks got to where they got to because they are politicians - Pelosi is a Female Dem from San Francisco - I figure her re-election is secure for as long as she wants to be in the House of Reps or until she dies.
Harry Reid the same (although he's more vulnerable cause he hasn't done much to help out the city of Lost Wages and the Casino owners ain't happy with him) but he can overcome that and stay in office until he wants to quit or dies, just like Pelosi.
It's hard to "lead" when you are in such a minority position in Congress, yet the House Republican leadership DID get ALL of the house Repub's to oppose this ridiculous spending bill (and persuaded, iirc, 11 Dems to join them) and the Senate Minority Leadership got all of the Repub's to vote against it; unfortunately Specter, Collins and Snowe have an (R) after their names, so the bill passed the Senate as well.
Add to that the the White House and the MSM are OWNED by Obama (D-Ill) and tell me how "better" leadership among the Republican Congresscritters would have made a difference?
Could they have not agreed to vote AT ALL until they'd read it?
| 968 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:38:56am |
re: #958 Scion9
Man, I think about that scene all the time. Great movie though.
Want some advice? Adapt yourselves mates!
| 969 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:39:01am |
re: #953 Wyatt Earp
Nope. Welcome to Philadelphia.
Geeze, I grew up in Minneapolis, MN, A racked shotgun in the center of the car was standard equipment.
| 970 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:40:29am |
re: #969 Dustyvet
Geeze, I grew up in Minneapolis, MN, A racked shotgun in the center of the car was standard equipment.
We have to qualify with them in the Academy, but the city doesn't trust us enough to equip us with them. Seriously.
| 971 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:40:32am |
re: #963 MandyManners
It still doesn't make sense to blow one's brains out unless you're engaged in something "greater" than mere robbery. I reckon I've never thought of "thuggery" as an ideology.
a one time thing...get away or gone down swinging
| 972 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:40:59am |
re: #946 jcm
Keep the legal gun-owning populace relatively unarmed while the criminals who don't care about laws gets the superior firepower. And every time some "assault" weapon is used illegally the anti-gun crowd screams for more restrictions.
Why bother actually ENFORCING the current laws when you can do nothing and just legislate more laws that criminals will ignore.
| 973 |
Scion9 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:41:04am |
Maxine Waters displays ignorance.
I'll paraphrase the best part that starts at about 5:20.
Waters: Do any of you know what I'm talking about...?
Bank CEOs: ....
| 974 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:41:05am |
| 975 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:41:40am |
re: #970 Wyatt Earp
We have to qualify with them in the Academy, but the city doesn't trust us enough to equip us with them. Seriously.
move to ABQ...you will have an instant job with all the fire power you need
| 976 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:41:52am |
re: #965 albusteve
the North Hollywood thing might have been an exception..the cops were getting hammered bad
I hope they learned their lesson.
| 977 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:42:04am |
re: #898 Iron Fist
Hey Fist! How are you doing?
I remember that North Hollywood shoot out and still don't know why the cops didn't shoot the mofos in the legs (their legs did not have any protective body armor, they weren't wearing todays' military body armor suits) and let the mofo's bleed out.
| 978 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:42:28am |
re: #970 Wyatt Earp
We have to qualify with them in the Academy, but the city doesn't trust us enough to equip us with them. Seriously.
God, that is just dumb...:(
| 979 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:43:08am |
re: #975 albusteve
move to ABQ...you will have an instant job with all the fire power you need
Mmm . . . firepower! *drools*
| 980 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:43:35am |
re: #970 Wyatt Earp
We have to qualify with them in the Academy, but the city doesn't trust us enough to equip us with them. Seriously.
Did you hear the interview on Glen Beck, that the City of Phoenix is balking at issuing rifles to the Phoenix PD?
They are apparently outgunned by the Mexican Drug Cartels who have automatic weapons.
| 981 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:43:49am |
re: #901 HoosierHoops
Hoops, you know that Maxine Waters is a grade "A" cerifiable kook - who really cares what she says - even the Dem leadership pays little attention to her rants.
| 982 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:43:56am |
re: #972 FurryOldGuyJeans
Keep the legal gun-owning populace relatively unarmed while the criminals who don't care about laws gets the superior firepower. And every time some "assault" weapon is used illegally the anti-gun crowd screams for more restrictions.
Why bother actually ENFORCING the current laws when you can do nothing and just legislate more laws that criminals will ignore.
'zactly.
While back a WA State Leg was looking to close the gun show loophole. A (R) asked the AG a simple question. "How many gun show guns are used in crimes?"
AG couldn't find any. So the next question was "Why do we need a law for a problem that doesn't exist?"
The bill died that time.
| 983 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:43:59am |
re: #932 MandyManners
Genexer loooks to be one as soon as Charles sees her melt-down.
Looks like I was doing some wishful thinking when I speculated the massive purge the other day had gotten most trolls and socks.
/ I did imply "most" both times ;)
| 984 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:44:18am |
re: #977 realwest
Hey Fist! How are you doing?
I remember that North Hollywood shoot out and still don't know why the cops didn't shoot the mofos in the legs (their legs did not have any protective body armor, they weren't wearing todays' military body armor suits) and let the mofo's bleed out.
From what I recall, the perps were shooting from behind cars.
| 985 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:44:44am |
re: #977 realwest
Hey Fist! How are you doing?
I remember that North Hollywood shoot out and still don't know why the cops didn't shoot the mofos in the legs (their legs did not have any protective body armor, they weren't wearing todays' military body armor suits) and let the mofo's bleed out.
just bad luck...the cops were pinned from the outset...there was alot of lead flyin that day...clip after clip nonstop from outside effective pistol range...worst case scenario
| 986 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:45:07am |
Question for those not technologically challenged:
I would like to install Safari but fear that my favorites will not migrate and that it may cause system problems. Can anyone explain Safari or reassure me that everything will be just peachy?
Thanks, and a new avatar BTW. :D
| 987 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:45:23am |
re: #983 FurryOldGuyJeans
Looks like I was doing some wishful thinking when I speculated the massive purge the other day had gotten most trolls and socks.
/ I did imply "most" both times ;)
I doubt it can be done in one, fell swoop.
| 988 |
slartybartfast Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:45:24am |
I just realized something about the so-called stimulus package:
BHO says it's going to save or create 3.5 million jobs in two years.
Meaning: of the U.S. labor force of 153,716,000, there will be 3.5 million jobs available for them...
| 989 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:45:31am |
| 990 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:45:39am |
re: #964 x-wing
That was something to see. Stinkys' "stick hand" had to be tired after that.
Two hot button issues for trolls and socks got repeated postings that day, hence why I personally think so many crawled out of the darkness.
| 991 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:45:54am |
re: #980 opnion
Did you hear the interview on Glen Beck, that the City of Phoenix is balking at issuing rifles to the Phoenix PD?
They are apparently outgunned by the Mexican Drug Cartels who have automatic weapons.
I did hear that. Unbelievable.
I love Glenn Beck. He goes a little off the deep end sometimes, but he's always damned entertaining.
| 992 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:46:07am |
re: #906 {Miss Trixie} Hey gorgeous, *smooches* back to you with interest! I hope it's nothing serious either, so I'm crossing my legs (tried to type with fingers crossed and it didn't work out so well!)! How are you doing? How's Lil Miss doing - still terrorizing the 'hood?!
| 993 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:46:09am |
| 994 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:46:19am |
re: #979 Wyatt Earp
Mmm . . . firepower! *drools*
by and large the cops are good people out here and are well respected, but if you shoot at one they get instantly pissed...they hate that
| 996 |
jwb7605 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:47:42am |
re: #986 Miss Trixie
Question for those not technologically challenged:
I would like to install Safari but fear that my favorites will not migrate and that it may cause system problems. Can anyone explain Safari or reassure me that everything will be just peachy?
Thanks, and a new avatar BTW. :D
That would be a big NO.
| 997 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:47:51am |
re: #994 albusteve
by and large the cops are good people out here and are well respected, but if you shoot at one they get instantly pissed...they hate that
Yeah, I usually get miffed when someone shoots at me, too. :)
| 998 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:48:13am |
re: #986 Miss Trixie
Question for those not technologically challenged:
I would like to install Safari but fear that my favorites will not migrate and that it may cause system problems. Can anyone explain Safari or reassure me that everything will be just peachy?
Thanks, and a new avatar BTW. :D
I installed safari, and was able to pull over my faves.
If it doesn't work, though - everything you have in your current browser remains - it won't just disappear, you'll still have what you have now.
So just go ahead, and if you don't like safari or it doesn't work for you, then uninstall it.
| 999 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:48:31am |
re: #987 MandyManners
I doubt it can be done in one, fell swoop.
I had and have my doubts as well. Sad that so many people get an account here just to achieve "Suicide by Stinky".
| 1000 |
2by2 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:48:53am |
love this line in the NY Post today:
"Madonna and Jesus spent the Christmas holiday in the Maldives............"
| 1001 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:48:56am |
Mornin/afternoon all. From a very snowy North Central Wa. state. Manbearpig must be somewhere close by!
| 1002 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:48:59am |
Iron Fist, the link said that the bills were HB 3245 and SB 3395. That is not how the GA styles their bills. There are no numbers in the thousands.
| 1003 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:49:03am |
re: #987 MandyManners
I doubt it can be done in one, fell swoop.
Wow that was quite a delete-fest up in the 500's. Genexers posts are still there though.
| 1004 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:49:42am |
re: #992 realwest
Hey gorgeous, *smooches* back to you with interest! I hope it's nothing serious either, so I'm crossing my legs (tried to type with fingers crossed and it didn't work out so well!)! How are you doing? How's Lil Miss doing - still terrorizing the 'hood?!
I hope everything turns out fine, hon.
It's such a nice day today that we're going out very soon. I laundered her red turtleneck sweater yesterday so we're good to go.
| 1005 |
unclassifiable Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:49:45am |
Gotta go.
The house needs to power down while I chase a short in the kitchen wiring.
¡Hasta luego ¨lizards¨!
| 1006 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:50:05am |
re: #923 Timbre
Oh bullshit. Even if he was a person you could believe I still say bullshit. IF Al-Q had nukes they'd a used 'em by now.
| 1007 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:50:12am |
re: #991 Wyatt Earp
I did hear that. Unbelievable.
I love Glenn Beck. He goes a little off the deep end sometimes, but he's always damned entertaining.
I agrree with you that Beck can go off the deep end & I don't like it when he gets weepy.Come on, man up!The interview though was interesting .
There are over 370 ransom kidnappings per year in Phoenix.
That would make it the number 2 city in the world for kidnappings.
Apparently it is the Mexican Drug Gangs.
| 1008 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:50:14am |
re: #999 FurryOldGuyJeans
I had and have my doubts as well. Sad that so many people get an account here just to achieve "Suicide by Stinky".
adds flavor to the blog....trolls and mobys have their use, and Charles does a good job of cleaning house...
| 1009 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:50:33am |
re: #999 FurryOldGuyJeans
I had and have my doubts as well. Sad that so many people get an account here just to achieve "Suicide by Stinky".
Genexer had been here for almost two years IIRC.
| 1010 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:50:42am |
re: #1003 x-wing
Thanks, now I hafta go look! What was the meltdown about?
| 1011 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:50:51am |
re: #981 realwest
Hoops, you know that Maxine Waters is a grade "A" cerifiable kook - who really cares what she says - even the Dem leadership pays little attention to her rants.
Hi my friend!
Well they must think something of her..They put her front and center with Shumer on the Sunday morning circuit..The kooks are beginning to become mainstream in the Dem party.
| 1012 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:51:17am |
Charles and Mr. Beaumont are up.
Charles, I apologize for quoting some of her posts.
| 1013 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:51:40am |
| 1014 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:52:23am |
re: #1007 opnion
I agrree with you that Beck can go off the deep end & I don't like it when he gets weepy.Come on, man up!The interview though was interesting .
There are over 370 ransom kidnappings per year in Phoenix.
That would make it the number 2 city in the world for kidnappings.
Apparently it is the Mexican Drug Gangs.
If only we had a border fence . . .
//
| 1016 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:52:58am |
re: #1006 realwest
Oh bullshit. Even if he was a person you could believe I still say bullshit. IF Al-Q had nukes they'd a used 'em by now.
It's hard to transport on the back of a goat.
| 1017 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:53:09am |
| 1018 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:53:44am |
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
....but I respectfully take a parting dissent to your claim that
Christian activism that "desires" to change the Constitution is "not
conservative and unamerican."Sir, wishing to change the Constitution is NOT unAmerican.... if you
accept that yours is a minority view and not able to pass. Taking up
arms when you can't get your way? THAT is "unAmerican."By labeling all Christians who refuse to shut up and simply "pray, pay
and obey" secularists like you as un-American, you have just consigned a
good 1/3 of the population to un-personhood.... and 2/3 of the GOP to
non-participation in a representative government whose takes they must
still pay.No sir. We're here, we're Christian. Get used to us. Otherwise, get
used to outer darkness yourselves. The GOP CANNOT WIN WITHOUT US.When the jackboots of the left come for YOU, who will you count on for
support? You can't shit on our altars and then ask for our help. It
doesn't work that way.Goodbye.
Richard L. Kent, Esq.
| 1019 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:53:56am |
re: #999 FurryOldGuyJeans
I had and have my doubts as well. Sad that so many people get an account here just to achieve "Suicide by Stinky".
Rotating title!
| 1020 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:54:13am |
re: #1005 unclassifiable
Gotta go.
The house needs to power down while I chase a short in the kitchen wiring.
¡Hasta luego ¨lizards¨!
Why is it always a short? Why not the more generic int, let alone a long, a double, or even a *gasp* double long?
/ programmer humor
| 1021 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:55:30am |
Another one on "Louisiana":
Expelled is right.
The Society for Censorious Biology doesn't sound like it can make an
argument.If you let them get away with this don't bleat when they silence your
blog.
| 1023 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:55:57am |
re: #1006 realwest
Yep, they'd of zapped something by now and would be on Al Jazzera hooting it up.
| 1024 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:56:51am |
re: #1018 Charles
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
*face palm*
On behalf of Christian's who understand the Bible, the Constitution and Science I apologize.
| 1025 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:56:56am |
re: #1009 MandyManners
Genexer had been here for almost two years IIRC.
Quite a lot of trolls and socks are account holders of a few years, but on average their actual posts counts are atrociously low. Hoarded until the hour of blatherage and meltdown.
| 1026 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:57:01am |
re: #1018 Charles
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
I wonder if he works in the same firm as Bill S. Preston, Esq.?
| 1027 |
jwb7605 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:57:03am |
re: #999 FurryOldGuyJeans
I had and have my doubts as well. Sad that so many people get an account here just to achieve "Suicide by Stinky".
I intend to commit "Suicide by hosed up router" in a few minutes.
No web site I've tried to visit today has behaved well, and it usually takes all day to resolve the issues, and the solution has always been internal equipment.
I'll be back to taunt you people with my spot-on observations either late today or maybe tomorrow. Hold your collective breaths!
| 1028 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:57:10am |
Another titled "Darwin et al":
I hope that now that Your Saint Charles Darwin has passed, that your
rabid collection of every possible news story concerning him will slack
off.Well, I can hope.
| 1029 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:57:17am |
re: #1018 Charles
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
at least he called you 'sir' instead of 'twit'...that's an improvement
| 1030 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:57:25am |
re: #1018 Charles
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
Wanting to establish a theocracy is not unAmerican?
Wowza.
JPN.
| 1032 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:58:37am |
re: #1024 jcm
You don't have to apologize for those folks. It isn't your fault!
BTW, it is snowing like hell over here on the eastside!
| 1033 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:59:22am |
re: #1021 Charles
Expelled is right.
The Society for Censorious Biology doesn't sound like it can make an
argument.If you let them get away with this don't bleat when they silence your
blog.
Scientists are gonna' bring back the Fairness Doctrine and censor blogs?
| 1034 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 8:59:23am |
re: #1022 ploome hineni
...Nobama reacts to the passing of the URGENT STIMULUS PACKAGE
/with a doggie bag
I am really beginning to dislike that guy
| 1036 |
jwb7605 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:00:04am |
re: #1017 Miss Trixie
Can you eleborate? I'm currently running IE and Vista.
All PC's are different, given the operating system and loaded drivers.
There is simply no way to tell you whether an installation of any browser will improve things before you try it.
On the upside, installing Safari (or FireFox or anything else) will NOT wipe out your existing IE tools, and you should be able to revert back to that if you don't like Safari.
It is virtually impossible to uninstall Internet Explorer.
| 1037 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:00:20am |
re: #1025 FurryOldGuyJeans
Quite a lot of trolls and socks are account holders of a few years, but on average their actual posts counts are atrociously low. Hoarded until the hour of blatherage and meltdown.
If they really cared about their POV and wished to defend it, they'd get into the mix and debate.
| 1038 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:00:28am |
re: #1018 Charles
Oooh, the guy is an Esq. I'm impressed....NOT.
| 1039 |
rightwinger3 Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:00:43am |
re: #1018 Charles
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
He apparently feels just like our liberal friends: "The Constitution is a living document"
| 1040 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:01:16am |
re: #1032 pingjockey
You don't have to apologize for those folks. It isn't your fault!
BTW, it is snowing like hell over here on the eastside!
Clear and 32°.
I know, I just like to make clear that not all Conservative Christian's are un-evolved troglodytes.
| 1041 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:01:45am |
| 1042 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:01:52am |
re: #1028 Charles
I hope that now that Your Saint Charles Darwin has passed, that your
rabid collection of every possible news story concerning him will slack
off.
This tears a hole in the time-space continuum.
| 1043 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:02:03am |
re: #1038 x-wing
Oooh, the guy is an Esq. I'm impressed....NOT.
Dosen't Esq. involve the south end of a north bound horse?
| 1044 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:02:05am |
re: #967 MandyManners
Regrettably no, Mandy. The Dems have the majority in both houses and they decide what bill(s) get voted on and when.
Although I think you may be on to a good idea - maybe the Republicans should have refused to vote stating that they hadn't had ANY input into the bill (which is true) and had no where near the time needed to read it (also true).
Of course, that's why Obama was on his doom and gloom economy campaign trail and, with a lot of help from Pelosi and Reid, they forced the vote. I'm still proud of the Republicans for voting NO.
The "Stimulus Bill" is a DEMOCRAT PARTY BILL and if it succeeds (and for America's sake I hope it does) they'll get the credit. But when it fails to stimulate the economy (which it will) they will have no one to blame but themselves - the MFM WILL try to blame it on Bush, but based on Rasmussen Daily Polls, Obama's popularity and, more importantly his trustworthiness on economic matters has been falling for the last three weeks.
I don't think "It's Bush's fault" will fly with most folks.
| 1045 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:02:20am |
jwb7605
Thanks for that - it's appreciated. I'll install Safari this arvo.
reine - thanks, toots, for your advice.
| 1046 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:02:28am |
| 1047 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:02:28am |
re: #1024 jcm
*face palm*
On behalf of Christian's who understand the Bible, the Constitution and Science I apologize.
I see a lot of the same people that want to smear all Muslims with the Jihadi and Theocracy-For-All stain are trying to achieve the Christian equivalent with actions and words they condemn in others. No organized religion is free from loony thinking.
| 1048 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:02:30am |
I want an attaboy from the Lizard nation. The thundering herd, aka my 3 boys went to gramma and grampas' last night and I sat through The King and I and South Pacific with my better half for Valentines. Sitting through musicals is akin to a root canal for me!
| 1049 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:03:55am |
re: #1048 pingjockey
I want an attaboy from the Lizard nation. The thundering herd, aka my 3 boys went to gramma and grampas' last night and I sat through The King and I and South Pacific with my better half for Valentines. Sitting through musicals is akin to a root canal for me!
ATTABOY!
| 1050 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:04:00am |
re: #1040 jcm
Sure. No sweat. I do alot of churches fire extinguishers and hood systems over and haven't ran into any of this virulent ID stuff.
| 1051 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:04:18am |
re: #1042 MandyManners
This tears a hole in the time-space continuum.
yes...not the same time line I'm living in
| 1057 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:05:54am |
re: #1050 pingjockey
Sure. No sweat. I do alot of churches fire extinguishers and hood systems over and haven't ran into any of this virulent ID stuff.
My wife hasn't paid much attention to the whole thing. She watched a part of the of the NOVA show on it. As the duplicity of the DI came out she turns to me and says that's not right, it's not Christian!
| 1058 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:06:18am |
re: #1048 pingjockey
I want an attaboy from the Lizard nation. The thundering herd, aka my 3 boys went to gramma and grampas' last night and I sat through The King and I and South Pacific with my better half for Valentines. Sitting through musicals is akin to a root canal for me!
No way out of it huh? A couple of years ago I had to sit through Showboat.
'Showboat comin" My teeth were itching.
| 1059 |
x-wing Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:06:40am |
| 1060 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:06:46am |
re: #1037 MandyManners
If they really cared about their POV and wished to defend it, they'd get into the mix and debate.
You won't find me disagreeing. ;)
| 1061 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:05am |
re: #1018 Charles
I got some really choice hate mail last night from "Christians." Here's one titled "not hate mail...":
A lawyer, by definition, cannot be a Christian.
*ducks head*
/
| 1062 |
pat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:14am |
Speaking of movies, Junois on HBO for a few more days. Caught it early this week. Consider it one of the 10 best movies I have seen.
| 1063 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:16am |
re: #1052 ploome hineni
..a 3 day weekend and a doggie bag
flying AirForce One to Chicago with the MotherinLaw
on your dime
| 1064 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:20am |
re: #1052 ploome hineni
..a 3 day weekend and a doggie bag
flying AirForce One to Chicago with the MotherinLaw
Henpecked in the White House. Perfect.
| 1065 |
Natasha Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:29am |
Wow! I am really late to the party. Over a thousand comments and it looks like there was a troll slaughter. Time to brew the coffee and see what happened.
| 1066 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:48am |
re: #1052 ploome hineni
..a 3 day weekend and a doggie bag
flying AirForce One to Chicago with the MotherinLaw
I don't begrudge POTUS AF-1 and the various perks of the office.
What erks me is he says "we must have stimulus now or else" then flies off for a three day weekend letting the bill sit.
| 1067 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:07:53am |
re: #1048 pingjockey
I want an attaboy from the Lizard nation. The thundering herd, aka my 3 boys went to gramma and grampas' last night and I sat through The King and I and South Pacific with my better half for Valentines. Sitting through musicals is akin to a root canal for me!
Attaboy!
I kinda' wanted to stay up for South Pacific just to hear Bali-Hai but, I figured I could listen to it this morning. Thanks for reminding me.
| 1068 |
Sharmuta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:08:00am |
re: #1061 Truck Monkey
A lawyer, by definition, cannot be a Christian.
*ducks head*
/
Is that why they're called the Devil's Advocate? :p
| 1069 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:08:12am |
re: #993 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - cool video, but I didn't see ONE Crown Victoria in the whole thing!
:)
| 1070 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:08:36am |
re: #1058 opnion
Nope, no way out. She got her chocolate fix and wanted to snuggle and watch the musicals of TCM. So we did!
| 1071 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:08:36am |
re: #1058 opnion
No way out of it huh? A couple of years ago I had to sit through Showboat.
'Showboat comin" My teeth were itching.
Jesus Christ Superstar had a coupla highlights
| 1072 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:08:51am |
re: #1051 albusteve
yes...not the same time line I'm living in
Maybe it was refering to the anniversary but, it should've been specific.
| 1073 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:08:56am |
re: #1065 Natasha
Wow! I am really late to the party. Over a thousand comments and it looks like there was a troll slaughter. Time to brew the coffee and see what happened.
Left over gamey buttocks with a poached egg and hollandaise sauce is just YUMMY!
| 1074 |
pat Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:09:13am |
Obama is not only ignorant and tone deaf, but he is a classic elitist.
| 1075 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:09:31am |
re: #1022 ploome hineni
...Nobama reacts to the passing of the URGENT STIMULUS PACKAGE
/with a doggie bag
The democrats hubris will do them in. I would bet that your average blue dog democrat in the heartland are astonished by what their "party" is doing.
| 1076 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:09:46am |
re: #1069 realwest
Hey Dusty - cool video, but I didn't see ONE Crown Victoria in the whole thing!
:)
Not a crown vic....
| 1077 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:10:38am |
re: #1036 jwb7605
All PC's are different, given the operating system and loaded drivers.
There is simply no way to tell you whether an installation of any browser will improve things before you try it.On the upside, installing Safari (or FireFox or anything else) will NOT wipe out your existing IE tools, and you should be able to revert back to that if you don't like Safari.
It is virtually impossible to uninstall Internet Explorer.
yea..Sort of brilliant and madding move by Microsoft.. They put so many hooks into Common DLL's that you can't uninstall the product..
Try deleting any version of shodoc.dll's in your system..Like the main DLL for explorer, shdoclc.dll and see what happens to windows..
/Do this at your own peril..
| 1078 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:10:39am |
re: #1036 jwb7605
It is virtually impossible to uninstall Internet Explorer.
Drop the virtually. IE adds in a lot of CORE components to Windows. IE is Windows, which shows just how twitchy the whole thing can get.
| 1079 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:10:42am |
| 1080 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:10:53am |
There was a common thread on the talk shows this morning by Dems & their supportive MSM types, that we won the election & the Republicans should support or shut up.
One twit on Meet the POress, Ron Brownstein questioned that the Republicans had a right to say anything after the last eight years.
| 1081 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:11:23am |
re: #1024 jcm
Good morning jcm! But I don't know why you're apologizing, those folks sure didn't sound like Christians to me.
Just effin' idiots.
Rude ones, too.
| 1082 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:11:53am |
re: #1059 x-wing
A ton of intestinal fortitude, plus I try to do whatever she wants/needs to. Case in point, 3 weeks ago we had to put our golden retriever down, tumors. We were going to wait until summer for a new pup. Well of course her and the two younger boys went to the Humane Society, "just to look" and called and said please, pretty please,.....etc. So of course we have a new pup!
| 1083 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:11:54am |
re: #1076 jcm
Not a crown vic....
[Video]
I mucked up my lead in...If Crown Victoria's had Mini Guns...
| 1084 |
quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:12:16am |
Thundercats are GO!
To the point of the quote
Why is "In the beginning" the one part of evolution theory that is least addressed or explained?
| 1085 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:12:28am |
re: #1073 jcm
Left over gamey buttocks with a poached egg and hollandaise sauce is just YUMMY!
I prefer Jessica Biel's gamey buttocks. Heh.
| 1087 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:13:16am |
And, who can forget Mitzi Gaynor's shampoo?
| 1088 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:13:19am |
re: #1067 MandyManners
What cracks me up....Do you suppose Spicoli knew Ray Walston had been in 'real' movies and Broadway?
| 1089 |
Sharmuta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:13:27am |
re: #1084 quiet man
Why is "In the beginning" the one part of evolution theory that is least addressed or explained?
Because the theory starts with the premise that life already exists.
| 1091 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:13:59am |
re: #1075 Truck Monkey
The democrats hubris will do them in. I would bet that your average blue dog democrat in the heartland are astonished by what their "party" is doing.
months ago some of us speculated that BO might be the biggest blunder the donks have ever made...I still hold that view...congress can undo alot of this bill down the road depending on circumstance and public opinion of course
| 1092 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:14:18am |
re: #1071 albusteve
Jesus Christ Superstar had a coupla highlights
Actually, that wasn't bad. My daughter was into theatre, I have sat through Peter Pan ,& Oklahoma etc. Maybe it built character.
I have to say though that 'Joseph" is really good.
| 1093 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:15:05am |
re: #1090 ploome hineni
of course....it was a naked power play to get that bill signed WITHOUT ANYONE READING IT, and the flight to Chicago a sign of contempt for the process and the American People
HE GAVE US THE FINGER
Get used to it. He doesn't care a whit about the American people.
| 1094 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:15:17am |
| 1095 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:15:30am |
re: #1080 opnion
There was a common thread on the talk shows this morning by Dems & their supportive MSM types, that we won the election & the Republicans should support or shut up.
One twit on Meet the POress, Ron Brownstein questioned that the Republicans had a right to say anything after the last eight years.
And it wasn't all that many years ago when the common theme was Dems need to oppose any and all moves by the Republican Majority since anything they do is EEEEEEVIL. Some people are starting to come out of the media coma.
| 1096 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:15:43am |
re: #1038 x-wing
Didja know that, at least in NYS, you can put "Esq." after your name whether or not you're a lawyer?!
| 1097 |
Natasha Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:15:50am |
re: #1080 opnion
There was a common thread on the talk shows this morning by Dems & their supportive MSM types, that we won the election & the Republicans should support or shut up.
One twit on Meet the POress, Ron Brownstein questioned that the Republicans had a right to say anything after the last eight years.
Wait a minute... I thought dissent was patriotic... Never mind. Some animals are more equal than others, indeed. Gosh, this is going to be a looooong 4 years.
| 1098 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:15:54am |
re: #1085 Wyatt Earp
I prefer Jessica Biel's gamey buttocks. Heh.
I would bet that her buttocks is everything BUT gamey.
| 1099 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:16:04am |
re: #1088 pingjockey
What cracks me up....Do you suppose Spicoli knew Ray Walston had been in 'real' movies and Broadway?
Beats me.
| 1100 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:16:47am |
re: #1094 MandyManners
I do like Paint Your Wagon. I don't know why they thought Eastwood and Marvin could sing though.
| 1101 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:17:04am |
re: #1092 opnion
Actually, that wasn't bad. My daughter was into theatre, I have sat through Peter Pan ,& Oklahoma etc. Maybe it built character.
I have to say though that 'Joseph" is really good.
my 25yr old daughter loves musicals almost as much as Little Feat and that's sayin something there
| 1102 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:17:27am |
re: #1098 Truck Monkey
I would bet that her buttocks is everything BUT gamey.
Well, I would be "game."
| 1104 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:17:35am |
re: #1084 quiet man
Thundercats are GO!
To the point of the quote
Why is "In the beginning" the one part of evolution theory that is least addressed or explained?
No life means no evolution. Only life evolves. Nothing doesn't do a whole lot.
| 1105 |
quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:17:47am |
re: #1089 Sharmuta
That is what most physicists do..they set to "one" anything they can't or won't try to explain. Looks like that idea evolved at random to me.
| 1106 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:18:11am |
re: #1099 MandyManners
Kind of a rhetorical question Mandy. Oops.
| 1107 |
gregg Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:18:11am |
| 1108 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:18:38am |
re: #1100 pingjockey
I do like Paint Your Wagon. I don't know why they thought Eastwood and Marvin could sing though.
"Paint Your Wagon . . . With blood, I bet!" - Homer Simpson
| 1109 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:18:59am |
re: #1095 FurryOldGuyJeans
And it wasn't all that many years ago when the common theme was Dems need to oppose any and all moves by the Republican Majority since anything they do is EEEEEEVIL. Some people are starting to come out of the media coma.
The Chicago Tribune is up in arms this morning about Illinois Corruption.
The irony is that they endorsed Machine creature Obama & don't even see how silly they now sound.
| 1110 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:19:00am |
re: #1085 Wyatt Earp
I prefer Jessica Biel's gamey buttocks. Heh.
Rosie O'Donnell's gamey buttocks. (no link, there's some things you can't "unsee")
| 1111 |
summergurl Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:19:16am |
re: #1080 opnion
There was a common thread on the talk shows this morning by Dems & their supportive MSM types, that we won the election & the Republicans should support or shut up.
One twit on Meet the POress, Ron Brownstein questioned that the Republicans had a right to say anything after the last eight years.
That's what I am seeing - the ole "shut up and sit down" routine
| 1112 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:19:22am |
re: #1097 Natasha
Wait a minute... I thought dissent was patriotic... Never mind. Some animals are more equal than others, indeed. Gosh, this is going to be a looooong 4 years.
There is always hope that this could be changed and pared down to 2 years. Congressional elections are in 2010.
| 1113 |
Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:19:42am |
re: #916 opnion
Hmm, overnigt ID Thread, what is the casualty count?
The well known and much loved Genxer could not take it anymore, and alas, has left the building.
| 1115 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:19:51am |
re: #1100 pingjockey
I do like Paint Your Wagon. I don't know why they thought Eastwood and Marvin could sing though.
Lee Marvin's "Wandering Star" was great, gravel voice and all.
| 1116 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:20:21am |
re: #1101 albusteve
my 25yr old daughter loves musicals almost as much as Little Feat and that's sayin something there
Hey something for everybody. I can't say that all musicals are bad.
Maybe it is an acquired taste.
| 1118 |
Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:20:40am |
re: #1110 Alouette
Rosie O'Donnell's gamey buttocks. (no link, there's some things you can't "unsee")
Oh, thanks for that! I just threw up in my mouth a little!
| 1119 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:20:49am |
re: #1066 jcm
Yep, as I tried to explain above in a comment to Mandy, Obama was all over the damn place saying we gotta fix the economy now or it'll be worse than the Great Depression and Pelosi and Reid forced a vote on that "Stimulus Bill" before few congresscritters or their staffs could read it, then the mofo flies off for a three day weekend before bothering to sign it into law?!
| 1120 |
Natasha Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:20:57am |
Not into musicals or any sort of "romantic" movies, here. I must be a freak of nature. Spent Valentine's Day drinking with my buddies. All of us convinced bachelors/ bachelorettes. Had a blast, made it home safe, by means of taxi, by myself, so I did not have to chew off my arm in the morning to escape "teh Coyote Ugly".
| 1121 |
quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:20:58am |
re: #1104 FurryOldGuyJeans
Then yes, I agree the idea should be discarded then...it is a mechanism only. One doesn't have to know who is driving the car.. The car is there...How doesnt matter...merely how it was assembled and the route of the assembly line.
| 1122 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:21:10am |
re: #1109 opnion
The Chicago Tribune is up in arms this morning about Illinois Corruption.
The irony is that they endorsed Machine creature Obama & don't even see how silly they now sound.
play stupid and CYA....perversely tho it's a good thing on the surface...the Trib has some juju
| 1123 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:21:18am |
re: #1118 Wyatt Earp
Oh, thanks for that! I just threw up in my mouth a little!
I used the whole bucket...:P
| 1124 |
summergurl Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:21:18am |
re: #1091 albusteve
months ago some of us speculated that BO might be the biggest blunder the donks have ever made...I still hold that view...congress can undo alot of this bill down the road depending on circumstance and public opinion of course
I am just waiting for someone to hack into the guys Blackberry and expose what's in there. His ego will bring him down.
| 1125 |
jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:21:23am |
re: #1090 ploome hineni
of course....it was a naked power play to get that bill signed WITHOUT ANYONE READING IT, and the flight to Chicago a sign of contempt for the process and the American People
HE GAVE US THE FINGER
It may be time to try something radical.... see if we were are a Republic.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
PETITION TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
The 111th Congress & President Barack Hussein Obama
We the undersigned the People of the United States as the sole sovereign authority in these United State hereby petition the Government of the United States for redress of grievance.
Whereas: H.R - 1 was passed without full knowledge of said bill by the members of Government.
Whereas: H.R. - 1 places undue and greivious burdens on the People.
Whereas: H.R. - 1 s an unconsitutional transfer of property.
Whereas: H.R. - 1 is an unconstitutional limitation on liberty.
Whereas: H.R. - 1 is an unconstitutional infrigement on life.
We The People demand an immediate and complete repeal of H.R. - 1.
It might be worth a shot.
| 1126 |
BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:21:56am |
re: #1085 Wyatt Earp
I prefer Jessica Biel's gamey buttocks. Heh.
She is cute..When our daughter went to UC Davis she made extra money by doing modeling ads in a Bra for Mervyns.. Every month she would mail us the newspaper ads..
It was embarrassing but what can you do? At least she never did the playboy layout.
| 1127 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:22:06am |
re: #1115 Dustyvet
Ya think? The wife likes it too. It is pretty good I guess. Hell, I can't carry a tune in a bucket!
| 1128 |
opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:22:18am |
re: #1111 summergurl
That's what I am seeing - the ole "shut up and sit down" routine
That's it & it is really in opposition to free & open debate.
The Leftist Obama supporters see nothing wrong with the way the stimulus bill was hidden from scrutiny. Seems totalitarian.
| 1129 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:22:22am |
re: #1109 opnion
The Chicago Tribune is up in arms this morning about Illinois Corruption.
The irony is that they endorsed Machine creature Obama & don't even see how silly they now sound.
I would conjecture they are trying to apply a bandage to their subscription hemorrhage. Mutter a few non-Progressive words to try to con people.
| 1131 |
realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:22:31am |
re: #1075 Truck Monkey
I'll bet that "your average blue dog democrat " either doesn't exist or is on board with the rest of the Dems on this stupid bill.
| 1132 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:23:21am |
The New Obama
Consider his campaign pledges: It wasn’t too long ago that Obama promised to “tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over.” Ah, the corporate lobbyist, every candidate’s favorite whipping boy. “They have not funded my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president,” Barack once swore to his sea of idolizing worshipers.
That was then; this is now. President Obama has allowed seventeen exceptions to the no-lobbyist rule. And remember that “sunlight before signing” pledge, giving citizens enough time to read a bill — and offer their opinions on it — before it is signed into law? Well, that’s gone to the wayside, too.
Consider his tone and lack of bipartisanship: Obama’s election was supposed to end the “politics as usual,” filled with “divisiveness” and all other sorts of bad things. It was on Inauguration Day, as I recall, when Obama proclaimed “an end to the petty grievances … that for far too long have strangled our politics.” We should “set aside childish things,” Obama suggested, and “choose our better history.”
So much for that. The first thing President Obama did was allow Nancy Pelosi to write the egregious “stimulus” bill, effectively making it her own personal wish list. When opposition to the bill began to mount, Obama brought Republicans to the bargaining table — only to snicker “I won” to their faces.
Additionally, President Obama’s recent speech to House Democrats was as snide and sarcastic of a national address as you will ever see. It was laced with flippant, partisan attacks on those who dared to question the logic of this massive bill. His administration went on the offensive, campaign-style, impugning the motives of those who have philosophical problems with the stimulus — what he calls “bickering” — while discarding any semblance of bipartisan spirit or grace under pressure.
| 1133 |
MandyManners Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:23:30am |
re: #1119 realwest
Yep, as I tried to explain above in a comment to Mandy, Obama was all over the damn place saying we gotta fix the economy now or it'll be worse than the Great Depression and Pelosi and Reid forced a vote on that "Stimulus Bill" before few congresscritters or their staffs could read it, then the mofo flies off for a three day weekend before bothering to sign it into law?!
Ummmmmm...I'm not stupid. I know what happened. All I was trying to state was that the GOP had the option of ABSTAINING during the vote. It would've generated a lot of coverage and possibly the chance for them to take it to the people.
| 1134 |
Sharmuta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:23:35am |
re: #1105 quiet man
That is what most physicists do..they set to "one" anything they can't or won't try to explain. Looks like that idea evolved at random to me.
You show your ignorance of the theory with these comments. I told you, evolutionary theory starts with life being present. The theory does not discuss what came before life and evolution only works on living organisms. But maybe if you studied some biology from some real biologists discussing evolution, you'd understand that.
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quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:23:46am |
1125 JCM
works for me..but how can it get done..Pelosi is in Rome eating eels
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:23:59am |
re: #1127 pingjockey
Ya think? The wife likes it too. It is pretty good I guess. Hell, I can't carry a tune in a bucket!
Me neither...Mom gave me $20.00 for singing lessons, and I bought candy...:)
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:24:14am |
re: #1126 HoosierHoops
She is cute..When our daughter went to UC Davis she made extra money by doing modeling ads in a Bra for Mervyns.. Every month she would mail us the newspaper ads..
It was embarrassing but what can you do? At least she never did the playboy layout.
Okay, you'll need to send those to Wyatt Earp, care of . . .
*ducks*
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:24:28am |
re: #1077 HoosierHoops
Uh, y'all can uninstall Microsoft easy.
Step 1. Find a small sledgehammer
Step 2. Apply as often as is necessary.
Step 3. go buy a new computer.
See, it's easy - tech advice from realwest, proceed at your own peril! LOL!
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:24:33am |
re: #939 MJ
Israel = bad. Seemed more like an OpEd to me. Anybody read other 'stories' by the author?
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Sharmuta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:24:37am |
re: #1121 quiet man
Then yes, I agree the idea should be discarded then...it is a mechanism only. One doesn't have to know who is driving the car.. The car is there...How doesnt matter...merely how it was assembled and the route of the assembly line.
What idea should be discarded? Evolution is a mechanism, nothing more.
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opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:24:40am |
re: #1122 albusteve
play stupid and CYA....perversely tho it's a good thing on the surface...the Trib has some juju
Yeah, but I can't forget how they tortured logic to support BHO.
The guy that they described in their endorsement wasn't running for anything.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:25:37am |
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pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:25:52am |
re: #1136 Dustyvet
Ha. I bought Matchboxs' and Hot Wheels.
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opnion Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:26:02am |
re: #1129 FurryOldGuyJeans
I would conjecture they are trying to apply a bandage to their subscription hemorrhage. Mutter a few non-Progressive words to try to con people.
Yeah, they hurt themselves with the BHO endorsment. Subscriptions were cancelled.
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quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:26:08am |
re: #1134 Sharmuta
Don't get angry. *laugh* Okay, The questioning starts where you want it to and before that...not our problemo..
I am fine with this limitation.
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jcm Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:26:56am |
re: #1135 quiet man
1125 JCM
works for me..but how can it get done..Pelosi is in Rome eating eels
I want to put it up at one of the petition sites. Then send it off to all the talkers, Steele and Gringrich. Support of the thing is at 37%, we have to hold DC accountable to The People.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:27:53am |
re: #1143 pingjockey
Ha. I bought Matchboxs' and Hot Wheels.
Cools, I collect Die cast Cars when I can afford it. Yup 61 years old and still plays with cars...:)
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:27:59am |
re: #1100 pingjockey
Hey ping! Because Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood TOLD THEM THEY COULD SING.
End of discussion! LOL!
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Sharmuta Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:28:15am |
re: #1145 quiet man
Evolution is a mechanism that works once life is present. It doesn't go into how or why the life showed up in the first place, just what happens once life is present.
I don't know what's so difficult to understand about this.
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pingjockey Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:29:46am |
re: #1151 realwest
Mwahahaha! Silly me.
Going up thread. My inter tubes be slowing down when we hit this many comments!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:29:56am |
re: #1137 Wyatt Earp
Okay, you'll need to send those to Wyatt Earp, care of . . .
*ducks*
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quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:29:58am |
Yes, evolution itself is merely a mechanism. I think most people forget this point..the theory makes no allusions to who or what set it in motion and IDers really are fuzzy on how the "whatever" assigns and accomplishes the tasks required of it..I would say the arguments are like traffic on a divided highway
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:30:50am |
re: #1144 opnion
Yeah, they hurt themselves with the BHO endorsment. Subscriptions were cancelled.
It could also be just a knee jerk reaction to all the attention on current corruption from outside the state brought on by Blagohair and his prevaricating Senate appointment.
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realwest Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:31:25am |
re: #1133 MandyManners
I didn't say you were stupid, just that I perhaps hadn't explained it all that well.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:31:41am |
re: #1144 opnion
Yeah, they hurt themselves with the BHO endorsment. Subscriptions were cancelled.
there is no question of their integrity and blind eye to Chicago corruption...but the fact is alot of people only know what they read today and opinion is easily manipulated...all bad news out of Ill is a good thing....push
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BenghaziHoops Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:31:53am |
re: #1137 Wyatt Earp
Okay, you'll need to send those to Wyatt Earp, care of . . .
*ducks*
The funniest story..She called us and said she got a small part in a movie in LA. Both her and her girlfriend were flying to LA for a week to make some cash.
She calls totally crying and sobbing from LA that they had been duped and it was a P0rn flick..So was devestated and of course i had to tease her by telling her brothers that their sister was going to do a p0rn movie..
I called southwest airlines and got her and her friend tickets to fly home immediately..
Poor kid gets teased about it every so often from us and it is pretty funny.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:32:03am |
re: #1152 Sharmuta
Evolution is a mechanism that works once life is present. It doesn't go into how or why the life showed up in the first place, just what happens once life is present.
I don't know what's so difficult to understand about this.
Some people don't want to understand it. They got all they need to know while warming a pew.
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quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:32:46am |
re: #1149 jcm
being accountable isn;t something any of our elected leaders will like very much. Only those interested in serving their country over their party.
anyone who voted for the porkulous bill was party over country...or else they would have spent a few hours reading the thing
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:34:14am |
re: #1159 HoosierHoops
The funniest story..She called us and said she got a small part in a movie in LA. Both her and her girlfriend were flying to LA for a week to make some cash.
She calls totally crying and sobbing from LA that they had been duped and it was a P0rn flick..So was devestated and of course i had to tease her by telling her brothers that their sister was going to do a p0rn movie..
I called southwest airlines and got her and her friend tickets to fly home immediately..
Poor kid gets teased about it every so often from us and it is pretty funny.
Lesson learned, anyway. And yes, it is pretty funny in hindisght.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:34:25am |
re: #1149 jcm
I want to put it up at one of the petition sites. Then send it off to all the talkers, Steele and Gringrich. Support of the thing is at 37%, we have to hold DC accountable to The People.
good idea...maybe you can save us after all!...I'll sign it in a heartbeat...I wonder what Steele would say...would he sign it?...ask him
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quiet man Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:34:35am |
re: #1160 FurryOldGuyJeans
Exactly...and this is a trait of both sides, IMNSHO. The risk is the same as those who argue global warming...the refusal of seeing forest due to trees.
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calcajun Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:41:44am |
re: #1018 Charles
Charles,
Though inartful--and certainly tactless (especially from another fellow lawyer) this letter represents the sentiment I mentioned in another post on another thread last night. People like this do not want to let go of their "cause" even if it may be losing one. They do not seem to realize that the war is over how the future generations are being socially conditioned. The fight over evolution v. ID/creationism is just one battle in that war.
I fully appreciate your efforts and your overall reasoning. Any steps towards programs which might promote religious orthodoxy are to be avoided. We do not have to look too far back to see the calamities of such regiemes. As a fundamentalist (I attend an AOG church) I urge you to keep up the fight.
The reason the fight needs to go on--such as it is--is that the axis of attack must change. When people who's scientific studies ended after the 12th grade are engaging in detailed discussions with accredited scientists, they stand as much chance of winning as the Zulus did against the British (after Islandwana). In short, there are a lot of people fighting this battle who are woefully ill-equipped to do so. They approach it with the same sort of demented fervor found on the left when their closely held beliefs are challenged. It is axiomatic; just because you strongly believe in something does not make it right. This is one reason why you have met with--and will continue to face--such nasty comments.
I would equally urge you to invite them to shift the focus of the attack to a more common ground. While the debate rages over science, we are losing our history. If time were not a factor this morning, I would post links to efforts to remove the names of Washington, Jefferson et al from schools due to the fact that they had been slaveholders. Stalin and Mao erased from memory those who had fallen from favor. The same thing can happen here--it will just take longer.
The shift in historical studies from inductive to deductive reasoning can have a far more profound effect than the issue of science. There can always be new breakthroughs in science which could challenge conventional wisdom. But if the founders of the nation are obliterated, if our political and historical traditions are destroyed to fit a new--and perhaps odious-- social template template how can they ever be rehabilitated? And who is to say that "they" will stop with the founders? This is the battle which needs to be fought, and far more people can be better equipped to fight it than the current scientific clash.
Sincerely,
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calcajun Sun, Feb 15, 2009 9:43:37am |
re: #1040 jcm
I know, I just like to make clear that not all Conservative Christian's are un-evolved troglodytes.
Thanks. I resemble that remark, though I can scratch my knees without bending over. ;)
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Wendya Sun, Feb 15, 2009 11:25:55am |
Here's the low down on ammo coding:
Ammunition Coding System was developed by a couple of guys who saw great value in holding a patent on a system that would generate billions of dollars a year. Unfortunately for them, the ammunition manufactures all told them to pound sand so the ammo coding guys hired a lobbyist. Their lobbying firm runs the ammunition accountability website and lobbies for ammunition coding on the state level. There is no "grassroots" effort by "concerned citizens" to adopt this.
Of course, that's not to say the leftists won't embrace this and Obama won't put it on his agenda. They're not a particularly bright bunch.
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