1 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:29:33pm |
looks like aliens on the bridge.
3 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:37:12pm |
And here I was expecting Operation Market Garden.
This is still cool though.
4 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:45:24pm |
I now present an example of a film studio completely ignoring the source material when crafting a "prequel".
Pathetic.
5 | jamesfirecat Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:51:07pm |
re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I now present an example of a film studio completely ignoring the source material when crafting a "prequel".
[Video]Pathetic.
Guess we have another student from the George Lucas school of prequel crafting...
6 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:51:53pm |
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
And here I was expecting Operation Market Garden.
This is still cool though.
Market Garden was an epic battle, though. Interestingly, one of the German Panzer companies sent against the British 1st Airbourne was composed of captured French Char B1bis tanks. 14 of the 17 ex-French tanks had had their 75mm cannons (a version of the famed "French 75" of WWI fame) replaced by flamethrowers. These Flammpanzers were used to great effect, as they often were against infantry with no tanks of their own to protect them.
7 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:52:51pm |
re: #5 jamesfirecat
Guess we have another student from the George Lucas school of prequel crafting...
part one dealt with a building sense of paranoia trying discover the nature of a patient hunter dedicated to its own survival. Of course that means in a prequel, we need more CGI and shit blowing up.
8 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:04:30pm |
Support the troops, unless they're gay!
State Rep. Al Baldasaro (R-NH) On Audience Booing Gay Soldier: ‘I Thought It Was Great’
9 | bratwurst Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:05:50pm |
re: #8 Lidane
State Rep. Al Baldasaro (R-NH) On Audience Booing Gay Soldier: ‘I Thought It Was Great’
I heard a caller on Limbaugh's show today suggest it was the merely the QUESTION that was being booed.
10 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:07:56pm |
re: #9 bratwurst
I heard a caller on Limbaugh's show today suggest it was the merely the QUESTION that was being booed.
They issued a pre-emptive booing because they figured a gay guy would ask a bad question.
/
11 | freetoken Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:07:59pm |
re: #8 Lidane
Baldasaro even speculated that because Hill came out of the closet, other soldiers might not protect him when “the shit hits the fan” in battle.
That's a pretty low opinion of how soldiers would conduct themselves.
12 | Political Atheist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:08:14pm |
Heh. Member this? Carmageddon Time lapse from Los Angeles
13 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:13:14pm |
re: #11 freetoken
That's a pretty low opinion of how soldiers would conduct themselves.
With that, I've got to wonder how much Baldasaro cares about the health and welfare of the people he is supposed to represent if he disagrees with their personal lives.
Shithead.
14 | freetoken Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:14:47pm |
Baldasaro seems to have a history of worry about teh ghey:
Rep. Baldasaro: NH selling children to homosexuals
On Wednesday, Rep. Baldasaro (R-Londonderry), while testifying before the House Judiciary Committee stated "The state of New Hampshire is selling children to homosexuals for $10,000 each". Rep. Baldasaro is the primary sponsor of HB 1590 which would repeal the marriage equality law. He was testifying during the hearing on CACR28, the Constitutional Amendment which would bar gays and lesbians from marriage.
[...]
Wow.
15 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:20:51pm |
re: #14 freetoken
Baldasaro seems to have a history of worry about teh ghey:
On Wednesday, Rep. Baldasaro (R-
LondonderryUranus), while testifying before the House Judiciary Committee stated "The state of New Hampshire is selling children to homosexuals for $10,000 each". Rep. Baldasaro is the primary sponsor of HB 1590 which would repeal the marriage equality law. He was testifying during the hearing on CACR28, the Constitutional Amendment which would bar gays and lesbians from marriage.
Wow.
Fixed. Because that guy is so out there you can barely see him even on a good night.
16 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:28:36pm |
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
This guy is about halfway to damn Betelgeuse.
17 | austin_blue Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:31:00pm |
re: #14 freetoken
Baldasaro seems to have a history of worry about teh ghey:
Rep. Baldasaro: NH selling children to homosexuals
Wow.
How much does it cost for breeders?
18 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:34:03pm |
re: #16 ProLifeLiberal
This guy is about halfway to damn Betelgeuse.
Say that three times fast ...
///That was a really funny movie.
19 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:35:05pm |
re: #16 ProLifeLiberal
This guy is about halfway to damn Betelgeuse.
The problem with that is that the name "Betelgeuse" is pronounced like "Beetlejuice" so you can't say it three times in quick succession without taking quite a risk.
/
21 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:38:00pm |
re: #14 freetoken
Baldasaro seems to have a history of worry about teh ghey:
Rep. Baldasaro: NH selling children to homosexuals
Wow.
So, this is in regards to adoption by same-sex married couples? (My conjecture)
I didn't see a link.
23 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:40:04pm |
re: #11 freetoken
That's a pretty low opinion of how soldiers would conduct themselves.
Just realized its worse than that. He served for 20 years. Nice to know he wouldn't have looked out for people in his command if he didn't approve of them personally. Must have been a real charmer.
24 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:40:37pm |
re: #19 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that the name "Betelgeuse" is pronounced like "Beetlejuice" so you can't say it three times in quick succession without taking quite a risk.
/
I like baytlgise,
25 | Amory Blaine Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:42:41pm |
Geeze man Firefox 7 is using over 700 MB right now.
26 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:45:39pm |
re: #25 Amory Blaine
Geeze man Firefox 7 is using over 700 MB right now.
Good grief, even that pig Java VM doesn't need half that much.
27 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:47:13pm |
Sorry, folks but too little sleep over the weekend just caught up with me. Good night.
28 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:47:49pm |
re: #25 Amory Blaine
Geeze man Firefox 7 is using over 700 MB right now.
IKR.
I switched to Chrome, runs faster but unfortunately there's no option to delete your history and temp files after you close. There is the "incognito" mode but it runs without plug-ins (particularly ABP), so I have to deal with popups.
29 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:50:07pm |
re: #28 laZardo
IKR.
I switched to Chrome, runs faster but unfortunately there's no option to delete your history and temp files after you close. There is the "incognito" mode but it runs without plug-ins (particularly ABP), so I have to deal with popups.
Eh? I'm using Chrome and I've got ABP running.
30 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:53:03pm |
re: #29 Lidane
Eh? I'm using Chrome and I've got ABP running.
He's referring to Incognito mode specifically. It doesn't track where you go and what you look at but doesn't, apparently, allow plugins to operate correctly. There are other options though for that kind of concern...
31 | austin_blue Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:55:36pm |
Aaand the Yankees go down 5-4 in Des Trois, Paris of the midwest.
32 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:57:24pm |
re: #31 austin_blue
They beat my Cowboys yesterday. Of all the teams in the NFL who aren't my Cowboys?
I'm pulling for Detroit to win any and everything that they can.
33 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:58:25pm |
Meanwhile in Thailand...
34 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:00:26pm |
re: #31 austin_blue
Aaand the Yankees go down 5-4 in Des Trois, Paris of the midwest.
YES! The only time I care one whit about baseball is when I hear of the Yankees loosing.
35 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:01:40pm |
re: #11 freetoken
That's a pretty low opinion of how soldiers would conduct themselves.
Guys like this project their own ugliest imagined behavior onto soldiers.
36 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:01:54pm |
re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They beat my Cowboys yesterday. Of all the teams in the NFL who aren't my Cowboys?
I'm pulling for Detroit to win any and everything that they can.
I've said this a couple of times now, but I really want Detroit and Green Bay to get to Thanksgiving Day with both teams undefeated. Now that game would keep everyone awake :D
37 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:02:47pm |
re: #17 austin_blue
How much does it cost for breeders?
Well, the breeders can more frequently breed their own.
38 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:04:47pm |
re: #34 wlewisiii
My dad's side (aside from my dad, they are largely great) comes from Michigan, and several live if in Detroit.
So, allow to say:
FUCK YEAH!!! WOOHOO!!!
39 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:04:54pm |
re: #33 ProLifeLiberal
Meanwhile in Thailand...
Thais take their royals serious.
40 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:06:03pm |
re: #33 ProLifeLiberal
We need some good insults against the King of Thailand. Thoughts? I came up with some in the IRC for Radio Dead Air, where I found the story from.
41 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:06:44pm |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
Thais take their royals serious.
The Thais and royalty are a very weird mix and have some strange modern history...
[Link: blogs.smithsonianmag.com...]
42 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:06:51pm |
re: #40 ProLifeLiberal
We need some good insults against the King of Thailand. Thoughts? I came up with some in the IRC for Radio Dead Air, where I found the story from.
I really don't have any interest in insulting the King of Thailand. His nation created a really excellent cuisine.
43 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:08:11pm |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
I really don't have any interest in insulting the King of Thailand. His nation created a really excellent cuisine.
There is some intrigue surrounding the King.
44 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:08:42pm |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
He's got a thin skin, needs to be fixed.
Although, I think Anonymous will take care of this.
45 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:13:20pm |
re: #29 Lidane
Eh? I'm using Chrome and I've got ABP running.
Yeah. But you still have to manually go into Options and delete the browsing history, rather than do it automatically on closing like Firefox does.
You could run the "private" mode, but it doesn't have plug-ins enabled so you still get ads and pop-ups.
47 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:32:37pm |
All right, I'm just going to go simple and boring for my Mom for Xmas (her birthday is also coming up).
A floating gold heart pendent and gold ball earrings.
Way over her price-range (miniscule as it is) but she'll wear them because they are boring.
48 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:35:39pm |
ESPN yanked Hank Williams, Jr. out by his fat red neck.
Good call, ESPN.
49 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:39:41pm |
You just can't compare the POTUS to Hitler. Not when Bush is President. Not when Obama is President. You just can't.
So? Don't. It's a fucking stupid thing to say; whichever side you are saying it against.
50 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:41:58pm |
re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You just can't compare the POTUS to Hitler. Not when Bush is President. Not when Obama is President. You just can't.
So? Don't. It's a fucking stupid thing to say; whichever side you are saying it against.
You know, I listen to country music stations. (I listen a lot of music stations; it's the ADD.)
I can't recall his last real hit.
51 | blueraven Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:42:48pm |
re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You just can't compare the POTUS to Hitler. Not when Bush is President. Not when Obama is President. You just can't.
So? Don't. It's a fucking stupid thing to say; whichever side you are saying it against.
I just heard about that earlier tonight. What a dumbass thing to say. Even the Fox and Friends people tried to get him to back off, but he wouldn't. So too bad!
52 | Kronocide Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:43:33pm |
fox just called Garofalo racist. Derp.
This means ESPN is racist for yanking Hank.
53 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:43:47pm |
re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You just can't compare the POTUS to Hitler. Not when Bush is President. Not when Obama is President. You just can't.
So? Don't. It's a fucking stupid thing to say; whichever side you are saying it against.
Now, if Miranda Lambert were to say something, that would impact country music currently being listened to.
55 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:50:48pm |
re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You just can't compare the POTUS to Hitler. Not when Bush is President. Not when Obama is President. You just can't.
So? Don't. It's a fucking stupid thing to say; whichever side you are saying it against.
A couple of Larouchites were carrying those posters last Saturday during the Occupy Seattle planning event I went to. Even the college anarchists called them crazy.
56 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:55:51pm |
re: #55 laZardo
Lol I love Barney Frank
Dining Room Table Girl tried to run to unseat him. Didn't do so well.
57 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:58:44pm |
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
ESPN yanked Hank Williams, Jr. out by his fat red neck.
Good call, ESPN.
I've got them a replacement already.
58 | engineer cat Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:05:34pm |
boardwalk empire, ken burn's prohibition documentary...
it all runs together into different views of the same story
59 | engineer cat Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:12:02pm |
i hev allus been anti hibition ennyway
"curse braces
bless releases"
- blake
60 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:13:54pm |
The Luap Nor bots on Facebook are currently passing this image around:
Image: 308417_261838550521569_142326439139448_719218_693961008_n.jpg
This is a clear case of a bunch of hippies buying into Luap Nor's bullshit. They hear what they want and ignore the rest.
61 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:17:26pm |
re: #60 Lidane
Time to repeat my question from a while ago: Is the meme that he is the candidate with the most donations from veterans true, and if so, why is that the case?
62 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:17:31pm |
re: #52 BigPapa
Johnny Depp is a racist.
All his characters make white males look like total weirdoes. It's a plot.
63 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:24:56pm |
re: #61 000G
Time to repeat my question from a while ago: Is the meme that he is the candidate with the most donations from veterans true, and if so, why is that the case?
I don't know for certain, but I doubt it. He's anti-military in a very nasty sense. He does not believe there is ever any just cause to use military force and as a result refuses to fund things like veteran care. Any trooper voting for Paul is raping himself even worse than the usual poor person voting Republican.
I did 16 years wearing Uncle's funny green business suits. It would be a cold day in hell before I voted for that rat bastard from Texas. I can honestly say I do not know a single vet who would actually vote for him. Some might want some of his talking points, but nonetheless...
64 | The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:35:46pm |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
Thais take their royals serious.
Thai kingship has a lot of ritual elements based in Hindu understanding of sacred kingship...the king is a paternal figure, but also a microcosm of an ordered civilization. Insulting him implicitly insults everybody. Also, the Chakri dynasty consistently kept Thailand's ass out of the fire up until WWII--fighting off Burma, continuously implementing reforms and re-structuring governance, and pulling off the massive-balls maneuver of avoiding becoming a colonial client state by ceding part of their empire. As absolute monarchs go, they're a pretty good bunch.
And Mongkut has been played by Yul Brenner and Chow Yun Fat, so there's no way I'm dissing himself.
This current one...eh, not so good he is...I just hope this gets straightened out without people getting hurt..
re: #58 engineer dog
boardwalk empire, ken burn's prohibition documentary...
it all runs together into different views of the same story
Also the book "Last Call"--which I happened to start read just before I heard about Ken Burns' show, which I'm literally watching as I type...
the local Rx in my town actually has an Volstead-era license to sell medicinal whiskey framed on the wall.
65 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:36:09pm |
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Round of Applause for ESPN.
Not a Sports Person, but may watch them now out of principle.
66 | ProGunLiberal Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:38:02pm |
re: #62 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Considering how every other white male (and every other sentient being) looks at him funny for his actions, there's a flaw with the theory.
67 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:39:08pm |
re: #66 ProLifeLiberal
Considering how every other white male (and every other sentient being) looks at him funny for his actions, there's a flaw with the theory.
His "America Sucks while raking in American Bucks" meme doesn't sit well.
68 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:41:25pm |
re: #67 ggt
His "America Sucks while raking in American Bucks" meme doesn't sit well.
Meh. He's hollyweird. What do you expect? These are the same people that have given us Ronald Reagan and Roseanne Barr. Thanks but no thanks.
69 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:43:45pm |
OK, I'm exhausted.
Have a great morning all!
70 | lostlakehiker Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:46:12pm |
re: #6 Dark_Falcon
Market Garden was an epic battle, though. Interestingly, one of the German Panzer companies sent against the British 1st Airbourne was composed of captured French Char B1bis tanks. 14 of the 17 ex-French tanks had had their 75mm cannons (a version of the famed "French 75" of WWI fame) replaced by flamethrowers. These Flammpanzers were used to great effect, as they often were against infantry with no tanks of their own to protect them.
I've visited the battlefield at Arnhem, and walked across the bridge. The West bank of the branch of the Rhine spanned by the John Frost* bridge is low. It's not built up---evidently it's a flood plain and not safe to build on. The East bank is higher, sporting some (for the Netherlands) impressive hills that give perfect observation onto the entire W. bank.
The river is a serious water obstacle. The E. bank is city, if not exactly Stalingrad. The bridge itself still stands, exactly as it was then apart from little amenities like new lighting.
The general landscape W of the town is very flat, with roads elevated above the general lie of the land for drainage. Off road movement for vehicles would be difficult at any time of year, and all but impossible if it rained. No wonder the operation was a failure. The Arnhem bridge was several bridges distant from the start line, and the British armored units assigned to the relief mission were played out. Not that they were cowards---they'd won the battle of El Alamein. But dash and verve were no longer in their repertoir.
(John Frost was the commanding officer of the lone British airborne battalion that made it to the vicinity of the bridge from the drop zone several miles to the North. The others got tied up in city fighting on the outskirts of Arnhem. His unit was overwhelmed and forced to surrender. He survived and was later the senior British commander in NATO. The Dutch renamed the bridge in his honor.)
71 | RadicalModerate Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:16:55pm |
C. Peter Wagner of the New Apolistic Reformation, one of the organizers of Rick Perry's recent "Day of Reformation" prayer rally gave an interview to NPR's "Fresh Air" program today.
Everything you've heard about these people? It's just the tip of the iceberg. They are scary-level crazy in their beliefs.
A couple of examples, quoted in the interview: A Christian cross should be installed on the US Capitol dome, and the Statue of Liberty should be torn down because of its "demonic nature".
Not to mention some of his bigoted beliefs on Japan and the nation's cultural history.
72 | Kragar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:52:45pm |
re: #71 RadicalModerate
C. Peter Wagner of the New Apolistic Reformation, one of the organizers of Rick Perry's recent "Day of Reformation" prayer rally gave an interview to NPR's "Fresh Air" program today.
Everything you've heard about these people? It's just the tip of the iceberg. They are scary-level crazy in their beliefs.
A couple of examples, quoted in the interview: A Christian cross should be installed on the US Capitol dome, and the Statue of Liberty should be torn down because of its "demonic nature".Not to mention some of his bigoted beliefs on Japan and the nation's cultural history.
You rang?
C. Peter Wagner
73 | freetoken Tue, Oct 4, 2011 12:49:48am |
re: #71 RadicalModerateDr. C. PETER WAGNER: Japan, as a nation, is one of the nations of the world which has consciously, openly invited national demonization. The sun goddess visits him in person and has sexual intercourse with the emperor. It's a very, very powerful thing. So the emperor becomes one flesh with the sun goddess, and that's an invitation for the sun goddess to continue to demonize the whole nation.
Since the night that that - the present emperor slept with the sun goddess, the stock market in Japan has gone down. It's never come up since.
That's beyond derpitude and into straight-jacket territory.
75 | freetoken Tue, Oct 4, 2011 1:00:34am |
While we're at it... here, have some music from the land "demonized" by the sun goddess:
77 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:17:07am |
w00t WFMU!
Image: 6fa3f82e4d5ab7bbea12867ac99f.jpg
http://www.metro.us/newyork/local/article/979439--occupy-wall-street-nypd-s-arrests-boosting-mob-s-numbers
Image: 315599_158344324256326_100002422789239_316107_2124694210_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=158344324256326&set=a.158059724284786.37112.100002422789239&type=1&ref=nf
78 | researchok Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:20:08am |
79 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:21:55am |
re: #78 researchok
You do well without coffee.
I'm impressed.
How do you figure I didn't have coffee?
80 | researchok Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:24:14am |
81 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:26:36am |
Don't know what you're talking about. It's 11:26 AM here.
82 | researchok Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:27:52am |
re: #81 000G
I had no idea- are you in the UK?
83 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:28:37am |
re: #82 researchok
I had no idea- are you in the UK?
Germany
lol whut?:
Image: 307026_158060750951350_100002422789239_315176_436855933_n.jpg
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
85 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:36:30am |
The pictures referencing kids in poverty offset the natural snark against the "spoiled college kids".
Image: 317413_159324074158351_100002422789239_319250_743148648_n.jpg
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
87 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:42:57am |
re: #1 ggt
looks like aliens on the bridge.
Reminds me of the crane fight in the Mel Brooks movie, Life Stinks.
88 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:45:03am |
re: #62 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Johnny Depp is a racist.
All his characters make white males look like total weirdoes. It's a plot.
What about Rango? He was a lizard in that one. Gotta give him love for that.
89 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:46:18am |
re: #62 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Johnny Depp is a racist.
All his characters make white males look like total weirdoes. It's a plot.
It is just him. He IS weird!
90 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:07:02am |
re: #61 000G
Time to repeat my question from a while ago: Is the meme that he is the candidate with the most donations from veterans true, and if so, why is that the case?
It's not quite true.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
The center tallied money from donors who list the Air Force, Army, Marines, Navy and National Guard as an employer. Overall, these donations are miniscule: Obama got 44 contributions worth about $27,000 and Paul 23 for about $19,300. Republican John McCain, an Iraq war supporter and Vietnam prisoner of war, was third with about $18,500 from 32 donors.
Military officers don't donate money to politicians but if they do, they keep it quiet.
91 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:12:47am |
re: #90 RogueOne
It's not quite true.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Military officers don't donate money to politicians but if they do, they keep it quiet.
I don't think that adresses the specific veteran part of the meme, does it?
92 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:14:43am |
re: #91 000G
I don't think that adresses the specific veteran part of the meme, does it?
It's a meme, there's no way to know. OTOH, he is from TX and there are billions of veterans in tx, true story.
93 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:17:49am |
Hm, doesn't mention veterans but is not a Paulian website and declares military donations meme true.
[Link: www.politifact.com...]
94 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:21:32am |
re: #93 000G
Hm:
[Link: www.politifact.com...]
I don't think that adresses the specific veteran part of the meme, does it?
////
95 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:24:48am |
re: #93 000G
I say it's a meme. The number of donations and money is minuscule when you consider how many are on active duty or are civilian employees of the military. I think people would be surprised to learn how many military members lean libertarian.
/edited multiple times. Need more coffee
96 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:26:10am |
re: #94 RogueOne
I don't think that adresses the specific veteran part of the meme, does it?
///
See edit.
97 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:28:02am |
98 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:32:28am |
re: #96 000G
BTW, it's not nice to edit something and ruin my perfectly good snark.//
99 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 3:59:51am |
100 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:00:21am |
Colbert on the Rick Perry lodge story:
"Obama spends a lot of time at Camp David which, until recently, only admitted white presidents"
101 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:04:58am |
re: #100 RogueOne
Colbert on the Rick Perry lodge story:
"Obama spends a lot of time at Camp David which, until recently, only admitted white presidents"
[Link: www.colbertnation.com...]
LOL.... Stewart and Colbert can almost make me feel encouraged about our future. They see what I believe is the truth. I would like to also believe that is not hard thing to do. That the scales on peoples' eyes will fall off so that they will also see.
melodramatic I am... heh
102 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:09:02am |
Daily Beast headline:
Amanda Knox Flees Italy for London
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
Even though the jury said she didn't do it, If she's smart she'll start googling which countries don't have an extradition treaty with Italy.
103 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:12:22am |
104 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:15:55am |
re: #101 boxhead
The scales won't fall off and people won't see.
105 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:17:25am |
re: #102 RogueOne
Father: "“I thought the judge might play it safe and uphold the conviction but reduce the sentence,”"
How so? Either she's guilty or not.
106 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:17:25am |
107 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:18:30am |
re: #106 boxhead
Better be a pessimist. That way either you knew it from the start, or you will have a very pleasant surprise.
Pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
//
108 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:20:17am |
re: #102 RogueOne
Daily Beast headline:
Amanda Knox Flees Italy for London
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]Even though the jury said she didn't do it, If she's smart she'll start googling which countries don't have an extradition treaty with Italy.
I will admit to not following the evidence of this story. So was she railroaded in the first trial, or did she get off because the glove did not fit?
109 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:21:17am |
re: #107 Sergey Romanov
Better be a pessimist. That way either you knew it from the start, or you will have a very pleasant surprise.
Pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
//
At least I will smile up until the road drops off and we attempt to fly... heheh
110 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:21:42am |
re: #108 boxhead
Either way it's an illustration of how fickle the system of justice is. Ergo: no death penalty.
111 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:22:47am |
re: #109 boxhead
At least I will smile up until the road drops off and we attempt to fly... heheh
Heh.
112 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:26:34am |
re: #109 boxhead
"Follow your dreams. Except for that one where you fly. That one never ends well."
-Some funny person
113 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:26:56am |
re: #108 boxhead
I will admit to not following the evidence of this story. So was she railroaded in the first trial, or did she get off because the glove did not fit?
From what I've read the jury had 2 options and picked the "she wasn't involved" choice.
I've been following it since she was convicted. There were some major holes in the prosecutors case and it looked to me like she was railroaded. OTOH, there were some pretty big holes in her story too. I would suggest that her next boyfriend sleep with one eye open just to be sure.
114 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:27:45am |
re: #110 Sergey Romanov
Either way it's an illustration of how fickle the system of justice is. Ergo: no death penalty.
On the no DP, I am completely in agreement. Jurors have been proven uninformed, misinformed, and/or biased far too many times. Demanding death reaches a level of hubris far exceeding what a normal prideful Greek would reach before Zeus would zap them with a bolt of lightning.
Points for what programming book mentions hubris, Zeus and being zapped. Hint, it was in the glossary.
115 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:29:00am |
Good morning.
The freeway I drive to work on every day has finally re-opened after being shut for 6 months while they repaired the pavement and all the overpasses! Yayyy! My commute now with 20 minutes less coffee and red lights!
One thing I saw, corporate HQ building all lit up in pink "For The Cure." That has to be the dumbest awareness campaign EVER. How does making a bunch of Ugly Pink Stuff find a "cure" for breast cancer or any other kind of cancer? Nobody is making a bunch of Ugly Purple Stuff for diabetes cure or a bunch of Ugly Blue Stuff for kidney disease (I don't even know what those diseases' theme colors are)
116 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:30:48am |
re: #113 RogueOne
From what I've read the jury had 2 options and picked the "she wasn't involved" choice.
I've been following it since she was convicted. There were some major holes in the prosecutors case and it looked to me like she was railroaded. OTOH, there were some pretty big holes in her story too. I would suggest that her next boyfriend sleep with one eye open just to be sure.
Properly trained investigators seem to be in short supply. The worst is when indictments are quickly made in sensational cases because the "people" demand justice.
117 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:30:58am |
re: #115 Alouette
Good morning.
The freeway I drive to work on every day has finally re-opened after being shut for 6 months while they repaired the pavement and all the overpasses! Yayyy! My commute now with 20 minutes less coffee and red lights!
One thing I saw, corporate HQ building all lit up in pink "For The Cure." That has to be the dumbest awareness campaign EVER. How does making a bunch of Ugly Pink Stuff find a "cure" for breast cancer or any other kind of cancer? Nobody is making a bunch of Ugly Purple Stuff for diabetes cure or a bunch of Ugly Blue Stuff for kidney disease (I don't even know what those diseases' theme colors are)
Kidney disease bracelets are yellow and Prostrate cancer ribbons are brown. (Actually they're blue but that doesn't make any sense)
118 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:32:07am |
re: #116 boxhead
Properly trained investigators seem to be in short supply. The worst is when indictments are quickly made in sensational cases because the "people" demand justice.
Exactly. She was an easy target and they wrapped up the investigation in a matter of days.
119 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:32:11am |
re: #117 RogueOne
Kidney disease bracelets are yellow and Prostrate cancer ribbons are brown. (Actually they're blue but that doesn't make any sense)
What color are the Arthritis ribbons?
122 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:34:36am |
re: #118 RogueOne
Exactly. She was an easy target and they wrapped up the investigation in a matter of days.
It shows an utter lack of respect for their fellow humans. Not a trait that I like much. I wish it could be a casualty in our ongoing evolution.
123 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:35:11am |
re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar
G'day, Honco.
124 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:35:27am |
re: #119 Alouette
What color are the Arthritis ribbons?
According to this list there isn't one. Probably because they have such a difficult time getting a bracelet on:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I like these:
Pink & Blue: Genital Integrity
Gray: Zombie Awareness
125 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:36:09am |
126 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:36:40am |
127 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:37:09am |
128 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:37:37am |
129 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:38:16am |
130 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:39:14am |
131 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:39:49am |
132 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:40:46am |
Another screaming busy day, I better get it started. Enjoy the rest of the day folks.
133 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:42:22am |
re: #132 RogueOne
Another screaming busy day, I better get it started. Enjoy the rest of the day folks.
me too... later lizards
134 | Flounder Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:43:27am |
re: #125 Sergey Romanov
wow, that is piss poor grammar, good catch!
135 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:46:04am |
re: #115 Alouette
There are many terrible forms of cancer, so, I don't necessarily like the fact that breast cancer gets a whole month.
Of course; it is boobies. And I really like boobies.
Boobies can have a month; let's give breast cancer about ten minutes.
136 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:50:09am |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There are many terrible forms of cancer, so, I don't necessarily like the fact that breast cancer gets a whole month.
Of course; it is boobies. And I really like boobies.
Boobies can have a month; let's give breast cancer about ten minutes.
I am seeing Ugly Pink Stuff all the year round. I fail to understand how a bunch of Ugly Pink Stuff, 5-mile "fun runs" and similar, non-scientific activity is going to accomplish a "cure" for cancer or even advance cancer research.
It just makes me hate Ugly Pink Stuff.
137 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:52:28am |
re: #136 Alouette
Through biofield vibes in the aether, apparently. /
138 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:55:00am |
re: #137 Sergey Romanov
Through biofield vibes in the aether, apparently. /
Let's get a bunch of people together, dress them in Ugly Pink Stuff and concentrate on Hating Cancer, write nasty messages about Cancer on Facebook, give Cancer wedgies, make fun of Cancer for being fat and pimply and that will make cancer cells feel bad and commit suicide. Bullies Against Cancer!
139 | Flounder Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:59:10am |
re: #138 Alouette
I like to give Atomic cancer wedgies, bit that's just me
140 | dell*nix Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:03:27am |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you have a Flickr account search for darkman. He seems to be a pro photog working the fashion shows. He has a humungus number of sets on his account. His models seem to be fashion models and he uses makeup artists to prep his models. Pretty models, lots of boob shots and some full frontal for those interested. Tastefully done and not blatant. You will have to set your safety levels to restricted to see his steam.
The fashion show coverage is very funny. The alternate catagory designers must use some very interesting drugs.
141 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:09:40am |
Hmmm...
The major tobacco manufacturers discovered that polonium was part of tobacco and tobacco smoke more than 40 years ago and attempted, but failed, to remove this radioactive substance from their products. Internal tobacco industry documents reveal that the companies suppressed publication of their own internal research to avoid heightening the public’s awareness of radioactivity in cigarettes. Tobacco companies continue to minimize their knowledge about polonium-210 in cigarettes in smoking and health litigation. Cigarette packs should carry a radiation-exposure warning label.
[Link: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...]
That's from 2008 but this is the first time I heard about it. Glad I stopped smoking several years ago.
142 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:09:49am |
re: #136 Alouette
My mom died during breast cancer month from ovarian cancer. Makes me like the idea of "Breast Cancer Month" even less.
143 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:12:21am |
re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My mom died during breast cancer month from ovarian cancer. Makes me like the idea of "Breast Cancer Month" even less.
I don't like the notion that one type of cancer is more worthy of a "cure" than other types of cancer. Also, I suspect there never will be a "cure." Big Pharma does not want a "cure," they want indefinite "treatment" that goes on forever.
144 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:12:44am |
re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My mom died during breast cancer month from ovarian cancer. Makes me like the idea of "Breast Cancer Month" even less.
Breast cancer deaths are #3 on this list.
[Link: www.cancer.gov...]
145 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:12:53am |
re: #141 000G
Well I'm not uptight
Not unattracted
Put them out tonight
Cause they're radioactive
146 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:14:47am |
re: #143 Alouette
They're curing AIDS. I think they'd cure it if they could.
They could make a pile o' money off a cure.
147 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:15:10am |
re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well I'm not uptight
Not unattracted
Put them out tonight
Cause they're radioactive Radioactive
That song reminds me of an ex GF. Stop it.
148 | dell*nix Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:17:54am |
re: #143 Alouette
A "cure" may most likely involve gene therapy to target the vulnerability to cancer. But then, I get most of my possible treatments from sc-fi. The authors tend to come up with some pretty good ideas. The problem is getting from here to there. It is going to take a lot of research on the genome and how it functions.
149 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:23:29am |
re: #148 dell*nix
A "cure" may most likely involve gene therapy to target the vulnerability to cancer. But then, I get most of my possible treatments from sc-fi. The authors tend to come up with some pretty good ideas. The problem is getting from here to there. It is going to take a lot of research on the genome and how it functions.
How does Ugly Pink Stuff help?
150 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:34:39am |
Surrounding researchers with Ugly Pink Stuff will make them "research harder" so that people will take away the Ugly Pink Stuff.
I guess that is how it is supposed to work.
151 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:34:50am |
re: #149 Alouette
How does Ugly Pink Stuff help?
Makes people want to fund a full cure so that the displays will stop?
152 | dell*nix Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:35:04am |
re: #149 Alouette
It makes you want to support finding a cure so the ugly pink stuff goes away. :)
153 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:37:02am |
Wow. There's something in the water. Heh.
154 | dell*nix Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:38:15am |
Time for a short nap then off to the tax office for new car tags. Then to the doctors for a health checkup and new prescriptions. Back later.
155 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:45:20am |
re: #124 RogueOne
According to this list there isn't one. Probably because they have such a difficult time getting a bracelet on:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]I like these:
Pink & Blue: Genital Integrity
Gray: Zombie Awareness
That's "living impaired", not zombie. They have feelings too you know.
For braaiiinnnnsss!
;)
156 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:46:27am |
re: #154 dell*nix
Time for a short nap then off to the tax office for new car tags. Then to the doctors for a health checkup and new prescriptions. Back later.
Hello and goodbye for the day--off to jury duty. When I get back I'll have a tax office/Alabama immigrant law story like FBV's.
157 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:49:24am |
From Debbie Schluessel's comment section:
Muslims such as Alaa Alsaegh are the real ‘tiny minority’ as far as Muslims go. If they had indeed been 80% or so of the population, there would have been so many of them that the 20% thugs that would have been around would have been scared to do things like they did to Mr Alsaegh. So don’t bother using him as the template within which to fit even most Muslims – just doesn’t work.
I agree w/ Rick S and Ferdinand King that this is why all Muslims ought to be expelled from America. Yeah, doing that would also get rid of people like Mr Alsaegh, but they are such a tiny minority that while it’s regrettable that they’d have to suffer as well, it’s not worth basing the policy on Muslims on people like them, unrepresentative as they are. Moreover, there are enough taquiyya experts among Muslims who’ll do things like this (I’m not saying Mr Alsaegh is one) in order to work their way in this country, and later perpetuate some outrage or another.
158 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:51:55am |
Morning Lizardim. What's the news of the week this week?
159 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:52:08am |
Holy crap!!
An Italian man tore both of his eyes out in the middle of the priest's homily at a church near Pisa, according to reports.
[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]
160 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:53:24am |
re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar
Holy crap!!
An Italian man tore both of his eyes out in the middle of the priest's homily at a church near Pisa, according to reports.
[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]
I've heard sermons like that.
161 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:53:28am |
re: #158 thedopefishlives
Morning Lizardim. What's the news of the week this week?
Colts 0-4 means much gnashing of teeth in Indianapolis and a call to elevate Peyton Manning to sainthood since he is obviously the key to all that is wrong there...
/
162 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:53:34am |
re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar
Holy crap!!
An Italian man tore both of his eyes out in the middle of the priest's homily at a church near Pisa, according to reports.
[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]
There are some drugs that will make you do really nasty shit to yourself. PCP?
163 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:54:47am |
re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar
Holy crap!!
An Italian man tore both of his eyes out in the middle of the priest's homily at a church near Pisa, according to reports.
[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]
Some joker probably sent him nude pics of Roseanne Barr on his iPhone.
164 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:55:32am |
re: #163 Alouette
Some joker probably sent him nude pics of Roseanne Barr on his iPhone.
That thought makes me want to poke out my mind's eye.:)
165 | Flounder Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:55:42am |
re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar
Eh, I've seen that in movies, ever seen Event Horizon?
166 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:55:42am |
re: #163 Alouette
Some joker probably sent him nude pics of Roseanne Barr on his iPhone.
Or someone put pineapple on his pizza...
/
167 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:56:53am |
re: #165 Shropshire_Slasher
Eh, I've seen that in movies, ever seen Event Horizon?
Damn, you were there first.
168 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:57:01am |
re: #161 oaktree
Colts 0-4 means much gnashing of teeth in Indianapolis and a called to elevate Peyton Manning to sainthood since he is obviously the key to all that is wrong there...
/
It's almost like no one remembers what the Colts were like before Peyton signed on.
/Colts? What Colts?
169 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:57:58am |
re: #165 Shropshire_Slasher
Eh, I've seen that in movies, ever seen Event Horizon?
Never saw the movie but there was an episode of Criminal Minds where a guy was killing people and taking out their eyes and using them for taxidermy.
170 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:59:21am |
re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, Ernst Theodor Amadeus Hoffmann was there before all that ;)
171 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:01:01am |
re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar
Never saw the movie but there was an episode of Criminal Minds where a guy was killing people and taking out their eyes and using them for taxidermy.
???
And how exactly does that work? IIRC eyes are watery, squishy, do not preserve well, and are generally replaced with glass replicas for taxidermy work.
And carrion birds appear to like them since it's essentially a trope about them coming for them first when you are crucified on the Tree of Woe.
172 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:03:06am |
re: #171 oaktree
???
And how exactly does that work? IIRC eyes are watery, squishy, do not preserve well, and are generally replaced with glass replicas for taxidermy work.
And carrion birds appear to like them since it's essentially a trope about them coming for them first when you are crucified on the Tree of Woe.
It works because it's on TV.:)
173 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:08:40am |
re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar
an episode of Criminal Minds where a guy was killing people and taking out their eyes and using them for taxidermy.
When the TV show TAXI 1st came on thats what I thought it was going to be about!!
//
174 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:08:54am |
re: #170 Sergey Romanov
175 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:09:05am |
I returned two books to the library yesterday, one about geo-forensics of serial killers and one about psychological traits serial killers have in common.
Checked out two more. One about BTK and one about the Green River killer. Be afraid.
/
176 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:09:41am |
re: #161 oaktree
Colts 0-4 means much gnashing of teeth in Indianapolis and a call to elevate Peyton Manning to sainthood since he is obviously the key to all that is wrong there...
/
"With the 1st pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts take Andrew Luck, quarterback, Stanford"
177 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:10:01am |
re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar
I returned two books to the library yesterday, one about geo-forensics of serial killers and one about psychological traits serial killers have in common.
Checked out two more. One about BTK and one about the Green River killer. Be afraid.
/
how too manuals?
178 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:11:45am |
re: #177 sattv4u2
how too manuals?
I actually wrote a short story about a guy who kills his wife and learned how not to get caught by watching Discovery Channel and A&E. Heh.
179 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:13:06am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
I actually wrote a short story about a guy who kills his wife and learned how not to get caught by watching Discovery Channel and A&E. Heh.
Good thing it wasn't from watching the blender ads.
/
180 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:13:37am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
I actually wrote a short story about a guy who kills his wife and learned how not to get caught by watching Discovery Channel and A&E. Heh.
How did "he" do it??
OUCH ,,oh , hi honey ,, didn't know you were looking over my shoulder!!
181 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:14:52am |
re: #179 Sergey Romanov
Good thing it wasn't from watching the blender ads.
/
[Link: www.viddler.com...]
182 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:16:11am |
re: #180 sattv4u2
How did "he" do it??
OUCH ,,oh , hi honey ,, didn't know you were looking over my shoulder!!
He took a friend (an alcoholic) camping with him and gave him a quart of booze (alibi, the guy wouldn't remember what actually happened), ran back to his house and beat her with an autographed bat (Murder's Row). :)
183 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:16:25am |
184 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:16:44am |
185 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:18:48am |
My screaming busy week just got a lot less busy. I was supposed to have 3 jobs started, completed, and delivered to Detroit by Thursday and now I don't have to be there until Monday. I might take a nap.
186 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:19:28am |
re: #185 RogueOne
My screaming busy week just got a lot less busy. I was supposed to have 3 jobs started, completed, and delivered to Detroit by Thursday and now I don't have to be there until Monday. I might take a nap.
Nap until Monday?
187 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:20:30am |
re: #185 RogueOne
My screaming busy week just got a lot less busy. I was supposed to have 3 jobs started, completed, and delivered to Detroit by Thursday and now I don't have to be there until Monday. I might take a nap.
While driving to Detroit?
Remember what happened the LAST time you tried that!
188 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:20:38am |
189 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:23:20am |
190 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:25:03am |
re: #189 sattv4u2
who do you think he is ,,, YOU!?!?
I didn't work yesterday because I had a job interview. I don't want to work today but I have to. I need more balance.
/
191 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:25:48am |
re: #161 oaktree
Colts 0-4 means much gnashing of teeth in Indianapolis and a call to elevate Peyton Manning to sainthood since he is obviously the key to all that is wrong there...
/
The 5 "P's": Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance. Their plan (no manning injuries) worked great for a long while but it's biting them in the ass this year.
192 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:27:33am |
re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar
Nap until Monday?
Saturday, I like to wait until almost the last minute. It helps me focus.
193 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:29:46am |
re: #190 Cannadian Club Akbar
I didn't work yesterday because I had a job interview. I don't want to work today but I have to. I need more balance.
/
Still doing carpentry work?
194 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:32:32am |
re: #193 RogueOne
Still doing carpentry work?
Done building the deck. Today, dig hole 2 feet deep by 90 inches wide by 4 feet long. Fucking goldfish pond. And pour concrete to finish off smoker.
195 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:32:56am |
re: #190 Cannadian Club Akbar
I didn't work yesterday because I had a job interview. I don't want to work today but I have to. I need more balance.
/
heh,,,, today is my day "off"
However, I still have to go in for a 4 hour (minumum) for new equipment training!
an hour + to get there,,,, 4 + hours there,,,,, an hour + to get home
DAY OFF!!
196 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:33:37am |
So, I get the day off, and what does my cat decide to do? Use me as a self-warming cat bed. Well, at least the purring is soothing.
197 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:34:05am |
re: #195 sattv4u2
heh,,, today is my day "off"
However, I still have to go in for a 4 hour (minumum) for new equipment training!
an hour + to get there,,, 4 + hours there,,, an hour + to get home
DAY OFF!!
When I was with Chili's we had 2 hour meetings every Tuesday. On my day off. Douchebags.
198 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:34:29am |
re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, I get the day off, and what does my cat decide to do? Use me as a self-warming cat bed. Well, at least the purring is soothing.
Wanna trade with MY "day off" (see 195)
199 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:34:55am |
re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar
Done building the deck. Today, dig hole 2 feet deep by 90 inches wide by 4 feet long. Fucking goldfish pond. And pour concrete to finish off smoker.
Sounds like you're putting in a heron feeding pond. Plan on catching them for the smoker?
200 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:35:54am |
re: #198 sattv4u2
Wanna trade with MY "day off" (see 195)
I've had days like those. And somehow, I always end up getting roped into working anyway. It's always "I just need a little help..."
201 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:36:18am |
re: #199 oaktree
Sounds like you're putting in a heron feeding pond. Plan on catching them for the smoker?
They better big big Herons 'cause the goldfish are huge!!
202 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:36:27am |
re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, I get the day off, and what does my cat decide to do? Use me as a self-warming cat bed. Well, at least the purring is soothing.
That's Sunday for me. Play cat pillow while watching football and reading web forums.
203 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:37:25am |
Alrighty. That hole ain't gonna dig itself. See ya'll tonight.:)
204 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:38:31am |
re: #202 oaktree
That's Sunday for me. Play cat pillow while watching football and reading web forums.
This one's favorite activity is nestling between my legs when I have a blanket over me. So in the winter, I use her as a cheap leg warmer while watching TV. I just give her a can of tuna every now and then and I get all the warmth I want.
205 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:40:05am |
re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, I get the day off, and what does my cat decide to do? Use me as a self-warming cat bed. Well, at least the purring is soothing.
This happens to me on weekends. I lay down on the couch, and then my feline overlord decides to join me, and of course the Mrs. Fish's feline overlord refuses to be left out, so she has to find a space somewhere nearby. Usually draped across my legs, so as to provide sufficient separation between the feline overlords.
206 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:40:51am |
Good morning lizards!
Looks like Chris Christie is going to let everyone know if he's running or not today.
Chris Christie, who hasn't addressed the press in New Jersey in over a week, just added a 1 p.m. press conference to his schedule.
His team has been, as always, impressively on-message and closed-lipped about what his intentions are - and it's not clear who he's told in his circle about which way he's leaning on 2012.
Stay tuned.
207 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:41:18am |
208 | RogueOne Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:41:39am |
upon further deliberation, if I get some quick priming done I can deliver one of my jobs to Louisville. May as well get it finished and head to KY. See ya people!
209 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:42:13am |
re: #206 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
Looks like Chris Christie is going to let everyone know if he's running or not today.
I'm going to go with "Not," because his negatives make Perry's look desirable. If anything, he'd do more damage to his reelection chances by trying to out-wingnut the rest of the pack.
210 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:48:40am |
re: #209 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I'm going to go with "Not," because his negatives make Perry's look desirable. If anything, he'd do more damage to his reelection chances by trying to out-wingnut the rest of the pack.
What make's him different is he appears to speak what's on his mind. He doesn't look like the rest of the politicians who will tell you anything and make promises they can't keep to get votes. Like him or not, he can be a formatable opponent to Obama.
211 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:53:02am |
Morning Lizards!
Anything interesting happen in the night?
212 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:53:26am |
re: #210 NJDhockeyfan
What make's him different is he appears to speak what's on his mind. He doesn't look like the rest of the politicians who will tell you anything and make promises they can't keep to get votes. Like him or not, he can be a formatable opponent to Obama.
True enough, but it also makes him undesirable to the party base. They're looking for somebody who not simply sips the Tea Party kool-aid, but is chugging it with gusto. And he's simply not it, because he's actually willing to stand up and call the loons out.
Seriously, if I thought he'd make it to the general "as-is," I might be tempted to vote for him. But I said the same thing months ago 'bout Romney and have proceeded to watch him lick the base's boots in hopes that they'll forget he was ever a party moderate.
213 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 6:59:25am |
214 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:00:26am |
re: #212 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
True enough, but it also makes him undesirable to the party base. They're looking for somebody who not simply sips the Tea Party kool-aid, but is chugging it with gusto. And he's simply not it, because he's actually willing to stand up and call the loons out.
Seriously, if I thought he'd make it to the general "as-is," I might be tempted to vote for him. But I said the same thing months ago 'bout Romney and have proceeded to watch him lick the base's boots in hopes that they'll forget he was ever a party moderate.
I am not impressed with any of the current GOP candidates. My mother is a registered Dem and voted for Obama and against GWB. She told me everyone she knows is very satisfied with Christie right now. If my mother tells me that from NJ, I can believe it.
Don't underestimate Chris Christie.
215 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:01:25am |
re: #213 Killgore Trout
Was wondering how long it'd be before these protests were co-opted. So no surprises here.
216 | Obdicut Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:01:35am |
re: #213 Killgore Trout
Implement is a right. The right to bear spatulas.
You'll take my pastry whisk from my cold, lightly-floured hands.
217 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:03:25am |
re: #215 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Was wondering how long it'd be before these protests were co-opted. So no surprises here.
They aren't being coopoted, these are the people initiating and organizing the protests.
218 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:03:31am |
re: #214 NJDhockeyfan
I am not impressed with any of the current GOP candidates. My mother is a registered Dem and voted for Obama and against GWB. She told me everyone she knows is very satisfied with Christie right now. If my mother tells me that from NJ, I can believe it.
Don't underestimate Chris Christie.
And Perry played especially well in TX, with folks from there telling me not to underestimate him when he went on the national stage.
Then Romney ate his lunch and now the party base is eating him alive.
219 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:04:04am |
re: #124 RogueOne
According to this list there isn't one. Probably because they have such a difficult time getting a bracelet on:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]I like these:
Pink & Blue: Genital Integrity
Gray: Zombie Awareness
Who knew?
220 | Obdicut Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:04:30am |
re: #215 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The protests were kicked off, apparently, by Adbusters, who were an ANSWER-aligned group with a bad history of anti-semitic crap, too.
If the protests are any good, it'll be because they got co-opted by moderate folk, but I doubt it. I'm not going to go join up in a protest sponsored by Adbusters.
I was solidly against the Iraq war, but they basically said "We're at war in Iraq because we have too many Jews in the administration." Like George W. Bush needed Jews to prompt him to invade Middle Eastern countries. A white-- blindingly, fish-belly, can't dance, can't jump white guy takes us to war in Iraq and Adbusters blames Jews for it?
221 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:04:42am |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
They aren't being coopoted, these are the people initiating and organizing the protests.
Well, then I'm a might confused, as I'm just showing up to the party. Am I supposed to hate or support these protests now because ANSWER is involved?
222 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:05:55am |
re: #218 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And Perry played especially well in TX, with folks from there telling me not to underestimate him when he went on the national stage.
Then Romney ate his lunch and now the party base is eating him alive.
I think Perry is finished. Romney is the frontrunner right now. Herman Cain is rising up but will not beat Romney. If Christie comes into the race, all bets are off.
This is one lizard's opinion.
223 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:07:39am |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There are many terrible forms of cancer, so, I don't necessarily like the fact that breast cancer gets a whole month.
Of course; it is boobies. And I really like boobies.
Boobies can have a month; let's give breast cancer about ten minutes.
A friend is a breast cancer survivor. Her husband has a pink ribbon magnet on the back of his car that says "save the ta-tas"
224 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:08:02am |
225 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:08:46am |
Is Obama having some problems within his own party?
With Obama’s approval ratings at record lows and the 2012 electoral map favoring Senate Republicans, the president and Senate Democrats are, in many ways, on divergent paths. Vulnerable Democrats from red states see Obama as impeding their chances of winning reelection, while the president often seems aloof to their concerns.
Obama, focused on winning a second term, has distanced himself from Congress altogether, at times not making the distinction between Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill.
There have been recent flare-ups between the White House and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and his deputies, 13 months before the 2012 elections, when control of the Senate is up for grabs.
The proximate causes of friction can seem slight, such as a recent breach of protocol, which left Senate Democratic leaders grumbling.
Obama left his party’s top senators, who had assembled for a conference call, hanging on the phone for nearly 20 minutes before National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling came on the line with a seemingly vague notion of what the call was supposed to be about, Democratic sources said.
The White House and Reid’s office did not comment for this article.
226 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:09:18am |
re: #148 dell*nix
A "cure" may most likely involve gene therapy to target the vulnerability to cancer. But then, I get most of my possible treatments from sc-fi. The authors tend to come up with some pretty good ideas. The problem is getting from here to there. It is going to take a lot of research on the genome and how it functions.
They find alot of other stuff along the way tho. Accidental discoveries etc.
227 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:10:03am |
228 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:11:00am |
re: #162 Alouette
There are some drugs that will make you do really nasty shit to yourself. PCP?
being off some drugs as well
229 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:11:55am |
230 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:12:54am |
re: #222 NJDhockeyfan
I think Perry is finished. Romney is the frontrunner right now. Herman Cain is rising up but will not beat Romney. If Christie comes into the race, all bets are off.
This is one lizard's opinion.
The bet is that if Christie joins the race, he'll be savaged in the same way that Perry has been. Seriously, think about it:
- He supports Bowles-Simpson
- He supports NJ's strict gun control laws
- He believes in AGW
- He disputes the term "illegal immigration" and his views on such prompted Lou Dobbs to call for his resignation
Any one would cause a candidate in the current GOP field grief, but all together? He'd have a bulls-eye painted on his forehead from the word "Go."
231 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:14:07am |
re: #229 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.observer.com...]
Not that you were going to buy the book. What is Anonymous good for if not ensuring a quality pirated copy of its own biography?
Heh.
232 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:14:57am |
re: #230 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The bet is that if Christie joins the race, he'll be savaged in the same way that Perry has been. Seriously, think about it:
- He supports Bowles-Simpson
- He supports NJ's strict gun control laws
- He believes in AGW
- He disputes the term "illegal immigration" and his views on such prompted Lou Dobbs to call for his resignationAny one would cause a candidate in the current GOP field grief, but all together? He'd have a bulls-eye painted on his forehead from the word "Go."
And the current crop will reinforce their nut credentials by attacking him en masse on those issues.
233 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:15:49am |
re: #230 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Well, Romney is one of the most liberal candidates (together with Huntsman), and everybody knows he lies through his teeth about his positions, yet he is still #1. If Christie is truthful and forthcoming about these positions, while softening them somewhat, he may not get the teepeeheads, but the more moderate base might come to him.
234 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:16:08am |
re: #230 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The bet is that if Christie joins the race, he'll be savaged in the same way that Perry has been. Seriously, think about it:
- He supports Bowles-Simpson
- He supports NJ's strict gun control laws
- He believes in AGW
- He disputes the term "illegal immigration" and his views on such prompted Lou Dobbs to call for his resignationAny one would cause a candidate in the current GOP field grief, but all together? He'd have a bulls-eye painted on his forehead from the word "Go."
But he doesn't look like he's speaking some bullshit just to win a few votes. There is no perfect candidate but with his 'tell it like it is' attitude, he will turn people on.
235 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:17:02am |
re: #232 oaktree
And the current crop will reinforce their nut credentials by attacking him en masse on those issues.
Ayep. Cain's recent ascent has been fueled in part by Perry's rapid fall from grace. Christie is being buoyed by the same mentality that gave rise to Perry's short stardom: The desire to put anybody but Romney on the GOP ticket next fall. And Christie does not strike me as a guy who'd roll over for the Tea Party.
236 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:17:17am |
re: #210 NJDhockeyfan
What make's him different is he appears to speak what's on his mind. He doesn't look like the rest of the politicians who will tell you anything and make promises they can't keep to get votes. Like him or not, he can be a formatable opponent to Obama.
You have described Rick Perry, or what people said about him before he ran.
If you dig into details you will discover that yes, he does make implied promises that don't get kept.
No, I don't think he can be a formidable opponent for Obama. When he hits the national stage the numerous local issues will explode across the national stage, again just as Perry's did.
237 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:19:01am |
re: #221 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Well, then I'm a might confused, as I'm just showing up to the party. Am I supposed to hate or support these protests now because ANSWER is involved?
That's up to you.
238 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:19:39am |
re: #233 Sergey Romanov
Well, Romney is one of the most liberal candidates (together with Huntsman), and everybody knows he lies through his teeth about his positions, yet he is still #1. If Christie is truthful and forthcoming about these positions, while softening them somewhat, he may not get the teepeeheads, but the more moderate base might come to him.
Romney's had months to run away from his record, like excusing Romneycare as something that works only at the state level and not the federal level. He's had months to build up name recognition and convince folks of his sincerity. Perry had a couple weeks and we saw how badly he crashed in only two debates. Christie wouldn't last much longer.
239 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:19:40am |
re: #236 kirkspencer
You have described Rick Perry, or what people said about him before he ran.
If you dig into details you will discover that yes, he does make implied promises that don't get kept.
No, I don't think he can be a formidable opponent for Obama. When he hits the national stage the numerous local issues will explode across the national stage, again just as Perry's did.
Rasmussen has him and Obama in a dead heat, and Christie isn't even running yet. If he decides to get in expect a real race in 2012.
240 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:20:26am |
241 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:21:06am |
242 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:21:52am |
re: #239 NJDhockeyfan
Rasmussen has him and Obama in a dead heat, and Christie isn't even running yet. If he decides to get in expect a real race in 2012.
Which is great, if we're just assuming that the GOP primaries are immaterial. But they're not, Christie's rise to fame is a retread of Perry's, and he's not likely to do any better. If anything, he'd get his ass stomped harder for being unapologetic for his views.
243 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:22:31am |
re: #225 NJDhockeyfan
Is Obama having some problems within his own party?
It does look like it. I suspect we're going to see a race in which the least dysfunctional party wins. It could go wither way.
244 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:23:45am |
re: #242 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Which is great, if we're just assuming that the GOP primaries are immaterial. But they're not, Christie's rise to fame is a retread of Perry's, and he's not likely to do any better. If anything, he'd get his ass stomped harder for being unapologetic for his views.
He won't back down. That's what this country needs right now, a politician who isn't afraid to fight back.
245 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:23:53am |
re: #235 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Ayep. Cain's recent ascent has been fueled in part by Perry's rapid fall from grace. Christie is being buoyed by the same mentality that gave rise to Perry's short stardom: The desire to put anybody but Romney on the GOP ticket next fall. And Christie does not strike me as a guy who'd roll over for the Tea Party.
Actually, a large part of Cain's recent ascent is that his powercenter is Georgia/Florida. Unlike much of the rest of the nation, in that area he's got a significantly higher recognition factor among the tea-party base. It's largely driven by his regular (wingnut) radio talk show that plays in the region.
So with Perry's faux pas, people fleeing went to someone they sorta knew and perceived as being "one of them".
For what it's worth, Cain seems to be getting ready to throw this opportunity away. He's announced plans to slow down on the campaign trail for a month and talk up his book, instead. That, instead of seizing the opportunity to be The One; something he's in better position to do than almost all the rest given his background.
I become convinced that every time opportunity knocks, the current crowd bars the door and hides in the cellar.
246 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:26:42am |
So, kid asks for the car to go to school today. I have nothing on the agenda that involves leaving the house until tonite, so I say sure. I figure I can sleep in since I don't have to get up to take him to school. Aren't I a nice mom?
Dogs decide they have to go out at 8 --so much for sleeping in.
I sit down at the computer and find I have exactly 2 cigarettes.
Now, I have to (the HORROR) walk to the store.
LOL!
247 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:27:54am |
re: #244 NJDhockeyfan
He won't back down. That's what this country needs right now, a politician who isn't afraid to fight back.
You're right, he won't back down, and the Tea Party will crucify him for that. They want ideological purity, and he's the antithesis of that. If anything, his run would prompt questions of why he's suddenly popular as a candidate when John Huntsman has been running for weeks and gotten little attention.
248 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:28:55am |
re: #247 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
You're right, he won't back down, and the Tea Party will crucify him for that. They want ideological purity, and he's the antithesis of that. If anything, his run would prompt questions of why he's suddenly popular as a candidate when John Huntsman has been running for weeks and gotten little attention.
Fuck the Tea Party. The Independents are going to decide who the next President is, not the Tea Party.
249 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:29:53am |
Anon planning to crash the NYSE.....
Operation Invade Wall Street - A Message to the Media
A new Anonymous statement to the media regarding a DDOS attack set forth to take place October 10th.
250 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:30:07am |
re: #239 NJDhockeyfan
Rasmussen has him and Obama in a dead heat, and Christie isn't even running yet. If he decides to get in expect a real race in 2012.
First: Rasmussen? Thumb on the scale Rasmussen? Nate Silver (for one) made the interesting observation that for the past half-decade, Rasmussen's early polling is significantly different (and leaning Republican) than any of his competitors. As the elections get closer his numbers get closer, usually by HIS numbers getting lower. I think for this reason that Rasmussen at more than a month out is trying to sell his candidate, not analyze where his candidate sits.
Second: So? Not running, no real exposure, he sits at a dead heat. So did Perry during the month or so prior to announcing. Let's see what happens if and when he puts himself on the firing line. Me, I think his local history will make him either unable to win the nomination or unable to win the general, and maybe both.
251 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:30:39am |
re: #249 Killgore Trout
They don't learn, do they.
252 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:31:32am |
re: #239 NJDhockeyfan
Rasmussen has him and Obama in a dead heat, and Christie isn't even running yet. If he decides to get in expect a real race in 2012.
If he decides to get in, expect him to get trounced by Herman Cain.
253 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:33:40am |
And now I see Christie decided to hold today's press conference at 1 pm EST. Right when Apple's event starts. #badtiming
254 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:33:48am |
Basically, it's still too early to discuss all this. Ultimately, anything may change. Remember how Rudy was going to be that power-candidate and frontrunner in 2007-8?
255 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:34:18am |
re: #248 NJDhockeyfan
Fuck the Tea Party. The Independents are going to decide who the next President is, not the Tea Party.
Meanwhile, the Tea Party's broken the back of Perry's campaign, while the Indies have already decided on Mitt Romney. What does Christie bring to the table that Huntsman hasn't?
256 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:34:29am |
re: #239 NJDhockeyfan
Rasmussen has him and Obama in a dead heat, and Christie isn't even running yet. If he decides to get in expect a real race in 2012.
I WOULD expect that, but in the unlikely event he runs there is virtually no way he can survive the GOP primary process. There is buzz in some corners that RICK PERRY is too liberal. What are they going to make of a guy who supports science and gun control and has no time for "creeping Sharia" nonsense?
257 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:34:37am |
re: #254 Sergey Romanov
Basically, it's still too early to discuss all this. Ultimately, anything may change. Remember how Rudy was going to be that power-candidate and frontrunner in 2007-8?
I remember being told to "Fear the Fred."
258 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:35:21am |
re: #257 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I remember being told to "Fear the Fred."
Yeah! That too.
259 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:35:44am |
re: #255 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Meanwhile, the Tea Party's broken the back of Perry's campaign, while the Indies have already decided on Mitt Romney. What does Christie bring to the table that Huntsman hasn't?
A New Jersey "you gotta problem wit that?" attitude?
And an ability to hide their local desert under a layer of pine trees.
260 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:35:52am |
re: #248 NJDhockeyfan
Fuck the Tea Party. The Independents are going to decide who the next President is, not the Tea Party.
If Obama is going to tank on his own record and the GOP candidate is going to win, then yes, the Tea Party had decided who the next President was going to be because they decided who the GOP candidate was going to be.
If Obama is going to win because the alternative GOP candidate is so horrid, the Tea Party is going to have made Obama President by deciding who the GOP candidate was going to be.
Working premise: Tea Party dominates GOP primaries.
Tentative conclusion: Therefore, Tea Party will decide who next office holder is going to be.
261 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:36:10am |
re: #248 NJDhockeyfan
Fuck the Tea Party. The Independents are going to decide who the next President is, not the Tea Party.
You know how primaries work, right?
262 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:37:13am |
re: #255 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Meanwhile, the Tea Party's broken the back of Perry's campaign, while the Indies have already decided on Mitt Romney. What does Christie bring to the table that Huntsman hasn't?
Who is Huntsman?
263 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:38:11am |
re: #251 Sergey Romanov
They don't learn, do they.
Nope. I doubt they can actually disrupt trading but if they do it would be huge. I suspect just the threat alone is enough to land some people in jail. That's bordering on terrorism.
264 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:38:46am |
re: #261 JasonA
You know how primaries work, right?
Yup, the guy with the most money wins.
Not this time.
265 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:39:50am |
Gotta run. Work is calling.
(Been 24 hours since I had a cig. Wish me luck with the umpteenth time I quit.)
266 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:40:19am |
We still have over a year until the election. What 5 months -6? til the Primaries.
A lot can happen between now and then.
Natural Disasters, Military Incidents, etc . . . .things that could affect the election that no one has even thought of.
I predict Obama will win in November 2012.
267 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:40:41am |
re: #249 Killgore Trout
Anon planning to crash the NYSE...
Operation Invade Wall Street - A Message to the Media
[Video]
Looks like something out of a James Bond movie.
268 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:40:47am |
re: #265 NJDhockeyfan
Gotta run. Work is calling.
(Been 24 hours since I had a cig. Wish me luck with the umpteenth time I quit.)
I'll take your leftovers.
269 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:40:48am |
re: #265 NJDhockeyfan
Good luck. And may this article help you.
270 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:41:00am |
re: #265 NJDhockeyfan
Gotta run. Work is calling.
(Been 24 hours since I had a cig. Wish me luck with the umpteenth time I quit.)
Best of luck. Smoking isn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy. Or you. :P
271 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:41:13am |
For what it's worth, I said that anybody who hadn't entered by mid-September wasn't worth thinking about. Even with Christie I think that.
The deadline for filings begin at the end of this month. Failing to hit some of the early states puts a candidate on Giuliani's strategic path.
The only reason Christie (and apparently Palin) can still consider this last-minute entry is because they have a little name recognition and (more importantly) there's no solid front-runner already in the race. Despite rumblings I don't think Sarah will run. Christie might, but he's still got three months to face the bear. He's going to be beat up by his party for his liberal positions. He's going to get beat up by the other side for some of his tea party-like actions. (Remember the train budget? How about the teacher fiasco? Neither are atypical.)
Romney is the frontrunner, but by now it's patently obvious that the anti-Romney portion of the party is dominant. If a viable candidate appears he will, by default, defeat Romney. If all that's present is the current morass there's an ugly but real possibility that the nominee will be selected at the convention. In my opinion, Christie does not rise above the morass.
272 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:41:15am |
273 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:41:33am |
re: #270 JasonA
Best of luck. Smoking isn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy. Or you. :P
quitting smoking isn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy
sucks!
274 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:42:27am |
re: #269 Sergey Romanov
Goof luck. And may this article help you.
That sounds like a 60s CIA plot to poison Castro - we'll make his tobacco radioactive and give him cancer from smoking cigars.
275 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:42:27am |
re: #255 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Christie didn't work in the Obama Administration, Hunstman did.
Christie isn't a Mormon, Huntsman is (for those who think that being a Mormon is an automatic disqualifier for being President even though that is a biased and contra to federal law and qualifications to be President).
However, the most important difference:
Christie isn't in the race; Huntsman is, but you wouldn't know it from his polling.
Christie is the shiny alternative to the crapshow that the GOP and TP has put together. Now, Christie may end up being just as bad as the rest as he would have to curry favor with the same nutjobs who first proffered the likes of Bachmann and Perry and then turned on them when they realized just how nutty they were - or that they weren't sufficiently extreme in their positions. That remains to be seen.
276 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:43:12am |
re: #274 oaktree
That sounds like a 60s CIA plot to poison Castro - we'll make his tobacco radioactive and give him cancer from smoking cigars.
Well, they goofed and it happened to all the tobacco. /
277 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:43:34am |
re: #249 Killgore Trout
Anon planning to crash the NYSE...
Operation Invade Wall Street - A Message to the Media
[Video]
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278 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:44:03am |
re: #273 ggt
quitting smoking isn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy
sucks!
I got it over with last July. Still puffing on the electronic cig, but it's worked for me.
279 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:44:06am |
Wallstreet more liek LOLstreet amirite?
280 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:44:26am |
re: #275 lawhawk
OK, I didn't know Huntsman is a Mormon. Dang.
281 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:44:57am |
282 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:45:14am |
re: #280 Sergey Romanov
OK, I didn't know Huntsman is a Mormon. Dang.
You need to pay more attention to the Fox info boxes during the debates... (yes, they included the candidates' religions in the first debate)
283 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:45:44am |
re: #275 lawhawk
Christie didn't work in the Obama Administration, Hunstman did.
Christie isn't a Mormon, Huntsman is (for those who think that being a Mormon is an automatic disqualifier for being President even though that is a biased and contra to federal law and qualifications to be President).However, the most important difference:
Christie isn't in the race; Huntsman is, but you wouldn't know it from his polling.
Christie is the shiny alternative to the crapshow that the GOP and TP has put together. Now, Christie may end up being just as bad as the rest as he would have to curry favor with the same nutjobs who first proffered the likes of Bachmann and Perry and then turned on them when they realized just how nutty they were - or that they weren't sufficiently extreme in their positions. That remains to be seen.
Like I said above, Christie's negatives are out in the open and he's apologized for none of them. His is the sort of candidacy that Romney has thrived by, using his opponents "liberal" positions to win the audience over at debates. The first time that a moderator brought up AGW or gun control, Mittens would open fire.
284 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:46:18am |
re: #279 000G
Wallstreet more liek LOLstreet amirite?
Heh, amirite and AmIdol sound like two ingestible substances.
285 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:46:46am |
re: #271 kirkspencer
BTW, the Feds and NJ have ended up settling on the ARC tunnel funding - in favor of Christie.
The feds were demanding NJ repay $271 million for preliminary work done.
Christie, after getting slammed for spending $1 million to fight that - ended up getting a deal where the state has to repay $95 million over 5 years.
That's a far cry from $271 million owed - and it prevented NJ taxpayers from being on the hook for anywhere from $1 to $5 billion on overruns that were all but expected because NJ Transit can't contain costs if its existence depended upon it. The alternatives proposed - Gateway or the 7 line extension are preferable to ARC and would avoid some of the problems with ARC (no storage space for trains at end of run, same bottleneck of trains if one of the train tubes was disabled, etc.).
286 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:46:46am |
re: #282 JasonA
I don't watch such dreck (neither Fox, nor Republican debates).
287 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:47:20am |
re: #282 JasonA
You need to pay more attention to the Fox info boxes during the debates... (yes, they included the candidates' religions in the first debate)
They did? Holy shit!
288 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:48:12am |
A long time ago, I decided to quit smoking. I set my date and began reading this book. I thought if I got pissed-off enough, it would help.
It didn't.
After reading about 1/2 thru, nothing about the tobacco industry will suprise me.
They had the ingredients for the "soma" tablet and fucked-it up for short-term profits. Nicotine, in and of itself, is not a bag drug. It's the delivery system that sucks. And it is considered a "delivery system". Smokers have been targeted and the product deliberately made to be as addictive as possible under the guise of "enhancing the smoking experience".
growing and rolling your own would be safer than what is offered for sale.
Well, now, I'm off to WALK to the store for my next supply.
290 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:50:31am |
re: #282 JasonA
You need to pay more attention to the Fox info boxes during the debates... (yes, they included the candidates' religions in the first debate)
Did they put "Mormon" or "Latter Day Saints"?
291 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:50:43am |
re: #287 wrenchwench
They did? Holy shit!
Well, at least it was "Mormon", not "Non-Christian" or even "Luciferian".
292 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:50:52am |
re: #288 ggt
Nicotine, in and of itself, is not a bag drug. It's the delivery system that sucks. And it is considered a "delivery system". Smokers have been targeted and the product deliberately made to be as addictive as possible under the guise of "enhancing the smoking experience".
This is my delivery system. Just nicotine, with none of the other crap.
293 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:51:19am |
294 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:52:02am |
re: #290 000G
The latter is not all too clear to the intended audience ;)
295 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:53:03am |
re: #294 Sergey Romanov
The latter is not all too clear to the intended audience ;)
Well, Mormon technically also encompasses FLDS & COC.
296 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:54:06am |
re: #295 000G
And much more than that. Rigdonites, etc.
297 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:55:03am |
Hell, 'bout a month ago, I remember saying that Perry was the mark to beat. That it was going to end up being a two-man race between him and Romney over who got which half of the GOP ticket.
Then, in the course of two debates, Romney spanked his ass hard on stage and turned the Great White Hope into just another dope. I'm utterly failing to see what will make Christie any different.
298 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:55:46am |
re: #288 ggt
A long time ago, I decided to quit smoking. I set my date and began reading this book. I thought if I got pissed-off enough, it would help.
It didn't.
After reading about 1/2 thru, nothing about the tobacco industry will suprise me.
They had the ingredients for the "soma" tablet and fucked-it up for short-term profits. Nicotine, in and of itself, is not a bag drug. It's the delivery system that sucks. And it is considered a "delivery system". Smokers have been targeted and the product deliberately made to be as addictive as possible under the guise of "enhancing the smoking experience".
growing and rolling your own would be safer than what is offered for sale.
Well, now, I'm off to WALK to the store for my next supply.
Zedushka smokes and he knows I hate it. He is banned from smoking in the house so he has made himself a "homeless guy's camp" in the garage where my new car lives. I have caught him sneaking cigarettes in the bathroom. He thinks that if he keeps the window open that I won't notice.
And he also drinks gallons of Coca Cola even though he is a diabetic.
I don't know what to do to keep him from offing himself with cigarettes and soda. Telling him that it's bad for his health just pisses him off.
299 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:56:04am |
re: #295 000G
Interestingly, in Wiki they're called by an umbrella term "LDS movement".
300 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:56:38am |
301 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:56:39am |
re: #297 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hell, 'bout a month ago, I remember saying that Perry was the mark to beat. That it was going to end up being a two-man race between him and Romney over who got which half of the GOP ticket.
Then, in the course of two debates, Romney spanked his ass hard on stage and turned the Great White Hope into just another dope. I'm utterly failing to see what will make Christie any different.
I hate to say this, but I have to give Romney a lot of credit for helping to bring that man down. It was a beautiful thing to watch. Even if the worst of Perry's wounds were self-inflicted. Heh... have a heart. :)
302 | Bob Dillon Tue, Oct 4, 2011 7:58:08am |
re: #265 NJDhockeyfan
Gotta run. Work is calling.
(Been 24 hours since I had a cig. Wish me luck with the umpteenth time I quit.)
1) Get the patch. 2) go to a nursing home and talk with some of the residents with lung diseases for motivation - and they will appreciate the time you spend visiting with them. 3) belly breathe for a bit when you have the urge ... it will pass.
304 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:03:03am |
re: #301 JasonA
I hate to say this, but I have to give Romney a lot of credit for helping to bring that man down. It was a beautiful thing to watch. Even if the worst of Perry's wounds were self-inflicted. Heh... have a heart. :)
Well, can't give total credit to Romney, as it was Bachmann's digs at the HPV vaccine bit in the first debate that sent Perry to the mat. Granted, she fell victim herself to her own wingnuttery post-debate, but she helped set up the slams that were brought down on his head in the recent debate.
Perry was supposed to be the guy who stepped in and walked away with the nomination. Instead, he's only made Romney's position as heir-apparent all the more secure.
305 | BishopX Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:08:39am |
So today's Boston Globe has a nice opinion piece up on the 4 day old Occupy Boston protests.
And then you meet Eleanor Seigneur and Leah Barrows and you realize that what’s going on in Dewey Square is more complicated, more nuanced, than some would have you believe.
Seigneur is 42. Barrows is 40. Seigneur lives in Weymouth. Barrows lives in Roxbury. Seigneur is white. Barrows is black. Barrows is a Republican. Seigneur gives the Republicans credit only for getting people to vote for them against their own self-interest. They both have jobs. Seigneur is an accountant at an animal hospital. Barrows is an artist and author of “The Vampyre Cookbook.’’ They have young daughters. Seigneur’s is 6; Barrows’s is 8.
And they have found themselves on the grassy patch in Dewey Square the last few days because they know of no other way to express their dissatisfaction, their utter dismay, over how the concentration of power - money and media - has created two separate Americas, one increasingly rich, the other increasingly poor, with a middle class increasingly squeezed out.
Some the people involved in Occupy Boston have also been going after Bank of America for their foreclosure practices around Boston. My favorite tactic so far has been cleaning up foreclosed properties, bagging the waste and depositing the bags at BoA branches and the president's house.
306 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:23:49am |
Today officially sucks. :(
Found out that the gaming company I've been with since June doesn't have the money to hire me on. I can stay here as an unpaid intern or look for another job. My boss was upset about it. She said she'd love to keep me, but they just can't.
They offered to use their connections to other game studios and to folks they know to help me land a job somewhere else here in town, so I jumped on that. I've already given the HR person my resume and the job description I wanted for myself, and both she and my boss are going to talk to the CEO and to the rest of senior management for recommendations and to help me land interviews. I'm upset. I'm hurt. But I get it, and I'm not angry. It's a small company that's really not making money so they just don't have the ability to hire someone else on.
Still, it sucks. Blah.
307 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:25:51am |
Grab your umbrellas, because wingnut brain matter is about to start raining from the skies:
Chris Christie Not Running for President
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will not run for president, according to a source with direct knowledge of the governor’s thinking.
Christie has long said he’s not ready to run , but had reconsidered in recent weeks and there was speculation he could make a late entrance into the race. Christie thrilled conservatives with a speech last week to Republicans at the Reagan Library in California. And his status as a governor in the blue state of New Jersey made him seem electable in a general election against President Obama.
308 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:26:41am |
re: #307 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Dunno if it's good or bad.
309 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:27:52am |
re: #307 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Grab your umbrellas, because wingnut brain matter is about to start raining from the skies:
ROFL. As if they'd ever vote for him anyway. Once he trashed the creeping sharia meme and the crazies promoting it, he was toast. Plus, he's for civil unions and gun control. He never stood a chance.
Still, the head asplosions will be fun to watch.
310 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:29:50am |
re: #306 Lidane
Today officially sucks. :(
Found out that the gaming company I've been with since June doesn't have the money to hire me on. I can stay here as an unpaid intern or look for another job. My boss was upset about it. She said she'd love to keep me, but they just can't.
They offered to use their connections to other game studios and to folks they know to help me land a job somewhere else here in town, so I jumped on that. I've already given the HR person my resume and the job description I wanted for myself, and both she and my boss are going to talk to the CEO and to the rest of senior management for recommendations and to help me land interviews. I'm upset. I'm hurt. But I get it, and I'm not angry. It's a small company that's really not making money so they just don't have the ability to hire someone else on.
Still, it sucks. Blah.
Sorry to hear that. Hang in there.
311 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:31:48am |
re: #307 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Grab your umbrellas, because wingnut brain matter is about to start raining from the skies:
Like most stalkers, the rwnjs want most what they can't have.
312 | Four More Tears Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:32:42am |
re: #310 Killgore Trout
Sorry to hear that. Hang in there.
If you post that picture of the cat hanging on a branch I'll slap you for her.
/
313 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:32:55am |
re: #308 Sergey Romanov
Dunno if it's good or bad.
It's good for Romney because it means he's now virtually uncontested for the nomination, barring a sudden resurgence from the peanut gallery.
It's bad for the Tea Party because it now means that, after weeks of finding other candidates wanting, they've either got to decide to prop up somebody they're less-than-impressed with or hold their nose and support Mittens.
314 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:35:29am |
re: #310 Killgore Trout
Sorry to hear that. Hang in there.
I'll be okay. Most of the folks in senior management around here have long careers in gaming and know a lot of folks here in town that could get me interviews I'd never land on my own. With any luck, something will turn out in my favor. Who knows? This could turn out for the best.
Still, in the short term it looks like I'll have to borrow more money from the university to pay my bills for this month and have rent for November. I'm really not looking forward to that conversation with my financial advisor. :-/
315 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:35:51am |
re: #313 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
For Obama?
316 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:38:27am |
re: #315 Sergey Romanov
For Obama?
Depends on the next 12 months. Personally, I think it's a plus for him, because as noted above, Christie would have been hard to beat in the general. Now, barring some major economic, domestic, or foreign disaster, he's fairly safe. And, if the nomination goes to the convention, it gives him several months head start on whoever gets the brass ring.
317 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:38:57am |
re: #306 Lidane
Today officially sucks. :(
Found out that the gaming company I've been with since June doesn't have the money to hire me on. I can stay here as an unpaid intern or look for another job. My boss was upset about it. She said she'd love to keep me, but they just can't.
They offered to use their connections to other game studios and to folks they know to help me land a job somewhere else here in town, so I jumped on that. I've already given the HR person my resume and the job description I wanted for myself, and both she and my boss are going to talk to the CEO and to the rest of senior management for recommendations and to help me land interviews. I'm upset. I'm hurt. But I get it, and I'm not angry. It's a small company that's really not making money so they just don't have the ability to hire someone else on.
Still, it sucks. Blah.
That's a shame, Lidane. I know you were hoping to stay on there. Good luck with your search.
318 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:40:15am |
re: #307 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Grab your umbrellas, because wingnut brain matter is about to start raining from the skies:
And the search for Generic Republican continues...
I actually thought he was going to go for it. That's why I'm not a political prognosticator, I guess. :)
319 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:41:21am |
re: #306 Lidane
Today officially sucks. :(
Found out that the gaming company I've been with since June doesn't have the money to hire me on. I can stay here as an unpaid intern or look for another job. My boss was upset about it. She said she'd love to keep me, but they just can't.
They offered to use their connections to other game studios and to folks they know to help me land a job somewhere else here in town, so I jumped on that. I've already given the HR person my resume and the job description I wanted for myself, and both she and my boss are going to talk to the CEO and to the rest of senior management for recommendations and to help me land interviews. I'm upset. I'm hurt. But I get it, and I'm not angry. It's a small company that's really not making money so they just don't have the ability to hire someone else on.
Still, it sucks. Blah.
Sorry to heard, Lidane, and I hope you have success in your search. Glad to hear that there are good folks willing to help you in it.
321 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:43:10am |
re: #298 Alouette
Zedushka smokes and he knows I hate it. He is banned from smoking in the house so he has made himself a "homeless guy's camp" in the garage where my new car lives. I have caught him sneaking cigarettes in the bathroom. He thinks that if he keeps the window open that I won't notice.
And he also drinks gallons of Coca Cola even though he is a diabetic.
I don't know what to do to keep him from offing himself with cigarettes and soda. Telling him that it's bad for his health just pisses him off.
LOL, a friend of my husband had one of those garage rooms. He carpeted 1/2 the garage, but a heater in, had a recliner, remote, TV and a fridge, kitchen cabinets for his "toys" tools, etc. He parked on the driveway and his wife had the other half of the garage.
322 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:45:01am |
re: #298 Alouette
Zedushka smokes and he knows I hate it. He is banned from smoking in the house so he has made himself a "homeless guy's camp" in the garage where my new car lives. I have caught him sneaking cigarettes in the bathroom. He thinks that if he keeps the window open that I won't notice.
And he also drinks gallons of Coca Cola even though he is a diabetic.
I don't know what to do to keep him from offing himself with cigarettes and soda. Telling him that it's bad for his health just pisses him off.
Nothing you can do. Just pray and be there with Loving support if he ends up in the hospital. A friend told her husband after his heart surgery that she would divorce him if he kept smoking -- just after he came out of surgery --so it made an impact. They are my "Jewish Parents", been married nearly 50 years.
323 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:45:57am |
re: #318 makeitstop
I didn't think he'd jump in the race. Doesn't mean that someone wont try a draft Christie movement down the road - particularly if no one candidate emerges as a contender to Obama. He might even work into the conversation as a ticket balancer as a VP contender.
Still, I think he's looking down the line to 2016, when he's got a free field (thinking that Obama wins reelection with the current crop of GOP contenders), has completed a term and change as NJ governor, and can make a strong run then.
324 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:48:19am |
re: #323 lawhawk
I didn't think he'd jump in the race. Doesn't mean that someone wont try a draft Christie movement down the road - particularly if no one candidate emerges as a contender to Obama. He might even work into the conversation as a ticket balancer as a VP contender.
Still, I think he's looking down the line to 2016, when he's got a free field (thinking that Obama wins reelection with the current crop of GOP contenders), has completed a term and change as NJ governor, and can make a strong run then.
I agree.. Christie is setting himself up for 2016
325 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:48:51am |
re: #323 lawhawk
I didn't think he'd jump in the race. Doesn't mean that someone wont try a draft Christie movement down the road - particularly if no one candidate emerges as a contender to Obama. He might even work into the conversation as a ticket balancer as a VP contender.
Still, I think he's looking down the line to 2016, when he's got a free field (thinking that Obama wins reelection with the current crop of GOP contenders), has completed a term and change as NJ governor, and can make a strong run then.
Indeed, Christie has a better chance of being accepted as a VP candidate than as a contender for the top spot. He'd do less damage to his own reelection chances back home by taking the spot, plus on the far chance that the GOP did win the presidency, it'd set him up for a potential presidential run of his own down the line.
326 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:48:56am |
re: #313 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It's good for Romney because it means he's now virtually uncontested for the nomination, barring a sudden resurgence from the peanut gallery.
It's bad for the Tea Party because it now means that, after weeks of finding other candidates wanting, they've either got to decide to prop up somebody they're less-than-impressed with or hold their nose and support Mittens.
The anti-Romney voters appear to be about 70% of the Republican party. At the same time, the alternatives are tanking badly.
If Romney continues to get only about 30% of the votes in the actual primaries, because of the changed methodology it means he won't have enough delegates to win by the time the conference rolls around. His only hope of avoiding that is also his greatest fear: the race turns into a two-person race instead of a race between a dwarf and several pygmies. With "only" two candidates, the delegates will split and inevitably one will get over half. The fear is that because the anti-Romney segment is so large he'll be an also-ran again.
I figure we'll know after Super Tuesday at the latest, and there's a fair chance we'll see enough withdrawals in the next couple of months and know sooner.
But it's all guesswork -- anybody who tells you it's certain is a fool or a liar.
327 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:51:36am |
re: #326 kirkspencer
The anti-Romney voters appear to be about 70% of the Republican party. At the same time, the alternatives are tanking badly.
If Romney continues to get only about 30% of the votes in the actual primaries, because of the changed methodology it means he won't have enough delegates to win by the time the conference rolls around. His only hope of avoiding that is also his greatest fear: the race turns into a two-person race instead of a race between a dwarf and several pygmies. With "only" two candidates, the delegates will split and inevitably one will get over half. The fear is that because the anti-Romney segment is so large he'll be an also-ran again.
I figure we'll know after Super Tuesday at the latest, and there's a fair chance we'll see enough withdrawals in the next couple of months and know sooner.
But it's all guesswork -- anybody who tells you it's certain is a fool or a liar.
True enough, though I think there's some weight to the predictions of this going to the convention. Romney's the most electable in the general of them all, but while the base hates him, they're either noncommittal about the other contenders or split amongst them. I'm expecting some sort of "compromise ticket" at the convention, with a lot of backdoor negotiating over who leads the ticket.
328 | Obdicut Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:51:57am |
None of this matters, because I have a minor cold, so I hate everything and everyone.
Kind of reminds me of what I felt like every morning back when I smoked.
329 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:52:33am |
re: #328 Obdicut
None of this matters, because I have a minor cold, so I hate everything and everyone.
Kind of reminds me of what I felt like every morning back when I smoked.
Well, aren't you a ray of frakin' sunshine?
//
330 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:52:56am |
Whoa, dark clouds rolling in from the north. Looks like it's gonna be another iffy day here, weather-wise.
331 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:54:32am |
re: #328 Obdicut
None of this matters, because I have a minor cold, so I hate everything and everyone.
Kind of reminds me of what I felt like every morning back when I smoked.
{{ ... ... Obdicut ... ... }}
not too close...
332 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:59:44am |
re: #298 Alouette
Zedushka smokes and he knows I hate it. He is banned from smoking in the house so he has made himself a "homeless guy's camp" in the garage where my new car lives. I have caught him sneaking cigarettes in the bathroom. He thinks that if he keeps the window open that I won't notice.
And he also drinks gallons of Coca Cola even though he is a diabetic.
I don't know what to do to keep him from offing himself with cigarettes and soda. Telling him that it's bad for his health just pisses him off.
I can not begin to tell you how hard it is to quit cigarettes. Yes nicotine is fiendishly addictive, yes there is the social aspect of it and the way it becomes habit. All of that conspires. But the thing that non-smokers don't get is that once you've gotten off of them, and gone through the sweats and the irrational desire to eat people and use their femurs as toothpicks as a legitimate response to petty annoyances... the thing that non smokers don't get is that if and when after a week or a month or even a year after you quit and you do break down and have "just one" it is like sex. It is that intoxicating - and then boom you are right back at it.
I am not even close to defending an addiction I fought with a lot. Of course it is terrible for you. Of course cigarettes are horrible and the smoker knows this. He already feels horrible about it and then tries to only have them a little and on the sly. Nothing will make him feel worse than a woman he loves telling him how bad it is (he knows) that you love him (he knows) tears (he sees) and the frustration that he feels because he was already hiding it.
You are of course correct that he needs to quit, but the standard Jewish guilt approach will only decrease Shalom Bayit.
333 | BishopX Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:59:58am |
re: #328 Obdicut
Shit, you too? This internet thing must be contagious.
334 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:01:45am |
re: #328 Obdicut
None of this matters, because I have a minor cold, so I hate everything and everyone.
Kind of reminds me of what I felt like every morning back when I smoked.
Feel better!
335 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:02:11am |
re: #313 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It's good for Romney because it means he's now virtually uncontested for the nomination, barring a sudden resurgence from the peanut gallery.
It's bad for the Tea Party because it now means that, after weeks of finding other candidates wanting, they've either got to decide to prop up somebody they're less-than-impressed with or hold their nose and support Mittens.
It is time for Ste. Sarah to don her armour of righteousness*, saddle her warmoose, and ride forth to save the fortress of GOP conservatism from the siege of the evil Mittens!
* - Don't look too close, it's made of tin foil.
///
336 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:05:29am |
OK. Now I'm stuck. What the hell do I do with myself the rest of the week? I know I'm not going to get hired here. I hope to be at another company at some point, and driving out here daily is an expensive drain that I definitely can't afford anymore now that a paycheck isn't going to happen. At the same time, I don't want to just sever all ties and leave them in a lurch when they're offering to help me find a job.
I guess I could do stuff from home and over Skype for the next few days then come in on Friday, or something. I don't know.
337 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:06:23am |
re: #335 oaktree
It is time for Ste. Sarah to don her armour of righteousness*, saddle her warmoose, and ride forth to save the fortress of GOP conservatism from the siege of the evil Mittens!
* - Don't look too close, it's made of tin foil.
///
I would laugh if she ever deigned to run for office. She'd have to be accountable for things and it would amount to a pay cut. No way would she ever do it.
338 | Obdicut Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:07:04am |
re: #336 Lidane
If you aren't working on anything critical, they'll understand. Wrap up any small projects you have open and transition any big ones.
And write thank-you letters to anyone who's been especially cool along the way. Human stuff like that matters.
339 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:07:38am |
re: #336 Lidane
OK. Now I'm stuck. What the hell do I do with myself the rest of the week? I know I'm not going to get hired here. I hope to be at another company at some point, and driving out here daily is an expensive drain that I definitely can't afford anymore, now that a paycheck isn't going to happen. At the same time, I don't want to just sever all ties and leave them in a lurch when they're offering to help me find a job.
I guess I could do stuff from home and over Skype for the next few days then come in on Friday, or something. I don't know.
Talk to your boss about it - she already seems to be in your corner, and it sounds like she'd be understanding about it.
As long as you put in the work, it shouldn't matter where you're putting it in from. Best of luck.
340 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:07:50am |
re: #336 Lidane
OK. Now I'm stuck. What the hell do I do with myself the rest of the week? I know I'm not going to get hired here. I hope to be at another company at some point, and driving out here daily is an expensive drain that I definitely can't afford anymore, now that a paycheck isn't going to happen. At the same time, I don't want to just sever all ties and leave them in a lurch when they're offering to help me find a job.
I guess I could do stuff from home and over Skype for the next few days then come in on Friday, or something. I don't know.
You do stuff from home to help in little ways, because that is being a mensch, but you remember that you are not getting paid by them. Few people can afford to work for free and they know this.
341 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:08:00am |
re: #336 Lidane
OK. Now I'm stuck. What the hell do I do with myself the rest of the week? I know I'm not going to get hired here. I hope to be at another company at some point, and driving out here daily is an expensive drain that I definitely can't afford anymore, now that a paycheck isn't going to happen. At the same time, I don't want to just sever all ties and leave them in a lurch when they're offering to help me find a job.
I guess I could do stuff from home and over Skype for the next few days then come in on Friday, or something. I don't know.
I don't know where you live..But my Corporate HQ in Silicone Valley hires lots of interns
342 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:09:49am |
re: #341 HoosierHoops
I don't know where you live..But my Corporate HQ in Silicone Valley hires lots of interns
Thanks. I'm in the so-called "Sillicon Hills", i.e., Austin. :)
343 | Obdicut Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:10:42am |
Alright. Now to do the only thing that gives me any pleasure while sick: doing the dishes while listening to QI.
344 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:13:48am |
re: #343 Obdicut
Alright. Now to do the only thing that gives me any pleasure while sick: doing the dishes while listening to QI.
[Video]
Well, the opening music is certainly annoying. This give you pleasure?
345 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:14:10am |
re: #304 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Well, can't give total credit to Romney, as it was Bachmann's digs at the HPV vaccine bit in the first debate that sent Perry to the mat. Granted, she fell victim herself to her own wingnuttery post-debate, but she helped set up the slams that were brought down on his head in the recent debate.
Perry was supposed to be the guy who stepped in and walked away with the nomination. Instead, he's only made Romney's position as heir-apparent all the more secure.
So, it was a race between Perry and Romney to be the hair-apparent?
(Hehehehehe)
(Yes, I can spell.)
346 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:14:23am |
re: #332 LudwigVanQuixote
I can not begin to tell you how hard it is to quit cigarettes. Yes nicotine is fiendishly addictive, yes there is the social aspect of it and the way it becomes habit. All of that conspires. But the thing that non-smokers don't get is that once you've gotten off of them, and gone through the sweats and the irrational desire to eat people and use their femurs as toothpicks as a legitimate response to petty annoyances... the thing that non smokers don't get is that if and when after a week or a month or even a year after you quit and you do break down and have "just one" it is like sex. It is that intoxicating - and then boom you are right back at it.
I am not even close to defending an addiction I fought with a lot. Of course it is terrible for you. Of course cigarettes are horrible and the smoker knows this. He already feels horrible about it and then tries to only have them a little and on the sly. Nothing will make him feel worse than a woman he loves telling him how bad it is (he knows) that you love him (he knows) tears (he sees) and the frustration that he feels because he was already hiding it.
You are of course correct that he needs to quit, but the standard Jewish guilt approach will only decrease Shalom Bayit.
When my daughter was here she lit up just to get in his face, but she is not a smoker.
347 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:14:40am |
Pulled pork sandwich with smoked gouda, coleslaw, and a nice hot pepper relish for lunch. A regular symphony on the taste buds.
I brought in a large Tupperware bowl of it and the fixin's so I'm spreading the fun to the coworkers today.
348 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:15:26am |
re: #346 Alouette
When my daughter was here she lit up just to get in his face, but she is not a smoker.
That was pretty horrible of her.
349 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:17:49am |
My grandmother would never smoke around her LDS grandkids. In fact, she did her best to keep us from finding out she smoked.
This drove the rest of the family nuts, because they don't smoke, and didn't want to breathe her smoke, either.
350 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:18:00am |
re: #346 Alouette
When my daughter was here she lit up just to get in his face, but she is not a smoker.
The worst withdrawal is done in 48-72 hours.
I recommend the next two day holiday followed by a Shabbos to be a time for him to quit.
351 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:19:07am |
re: #346 Alouette
When my daughter was here she lit up just to get in his face, but she is not a smoker.
Such actions only make the smoker want to smoke more, in an act of defiance, and are therefore counterproductive.
Don't look for logic with addiction.
352 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:21:01am |
re: #346 Alouette
When my daughter was here she lit up just to get in his face, but she is not a smoker.
As JasonA mentioned above, he quit smoking with the e-cig. Thanks to him sharing that information here over a year ago, so did I. I quit smoking a year ago August when I got my e-cig and it was the easiest thing I ever did after smoking for about 40 years and being unsuccessful with any other method.
Your husband may find the same benefit. Seriously, look into it for both of your sakes.
353 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:22:22am |
re: #332 LudwigVanQuixote
First time I quit, I lasted 3 years. Then I went to a BB King show. After the show I was walking downtown with my newly found future wife and ran into a tobacco store. The humidor beckoned me in and I bought the finest cigar in the place. Didn't feel addicted. So began my spiral back into the shit. 6 months later I was sitting in my smoke fouled car, cigar butts bulging from the ashtray thinking to myself "holy shit I better go back to cigarettes these cigars are killing me!". Smoked another 8 years. Finally smoke free for 8 years now, I'll never touch another one.
355 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:27:10am |
It appears Attorney general Holder lied to Congress about Fast & Furious-CBS
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WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.
On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."
356 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:27:33am |
re: #353 Amory Blaine
First time I quit, I lasted 3 years. Then I went to a BB King show. After the show I was walking downtown with my newly found future wife and ran into a tobacco store. The humidor beckoned me in and I bought the finest cigar in the place. Didn't feel addicted. So began my spiral back into the shit. 6 months later I was sitting in my smoke fouled car, cigar butts bulging from the ashtray thinking to myself "holy shit I better go back to cigarettes these cigars are killing me!". Smoked another 8 years. Finally smoke free for 8 years now, I'll never touch another one.
Good for you!
I fortunately started smoking after college. Unfortunately, it has been a slug fest of quitting and then slipping up again since then. The longest I have quit for was about a year and a half, the second longest about 9 months and then I have had multiple 3-6 month stints before getting back to it.
It sucks. I hate the way it makes my clothing smell. I hate everything about it - except of course for the nicotine and the fact that it really does chill me out after a stressing.
It really sucks.
357 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:28:31am |
re: #347 oaktree
Pulled pork sandwich with smoked gouda, coleslaw, and a nice hot pepper relish for lunch. A regular symphony on the taste buds.
I brought in a large Tupperware bowl of it and the fixin's so I'm spreading the fun to the coworkers today.
My lunch right now...leftover pot roast with cheese and mayo on the rye bread my mom brought down from NJ.
358 | BishopX Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:29:17am |
re: #355 Rightwingconspirator
And how many briefings does he get sent per day? Note the word sent, i.e. someone sent him a binder of info. Until we see meeting minutes or his signature on something I'm going to continue to believe him.
359 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:30:35am |
Mr. w quit after smoking for over 50 years when a doctor told him he could either keep getting pneumonia (which he had twice in less than 2 years) until it killed him, or he could quit smoking.
He says he has no will power, so he used his "won't power". That was more than ten years ago.
360 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:31:08am |
We had my famous "here fucker" casserole last night. Mac-n-cheese mixed with can of tuna, peas and cream of mushroom topped with potato chips and baked.
361 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:32:02am |
re: #353 Amory Blaine
First time I quit, I lasted 3 years. Then I went to a BB King show. After the show I was walking downtown with my newly found future wife and ran into a tobacco store. The humidor beckoned me in and I bought the finest cigar in the place. Didn't feel addicted. So began my spiral back into the shit. 6 months later I was sitting in my smoke fouled car, cigar butts bulging from the ashtray thinking to myself "holy shit I better go back to cigarettes these cigars are killing me!". Smoked another 8 years. Finally smoke free for 8 years now, I'll never touch another one.
I quit over a year ago without any problems. I was cig-free for 3 months. After my seizure in Tennessee and waking up 3 days later in the hospital, all I wanted was a cigarette. I had one and that was enough. When I got home my mother was there to help take care of me. She smokes and kept handing them to me. I've been smoking ever since.
362 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:32:38am |
363 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:32:40am |
re: #360 Amory Blaine
We had my famous "here fucker" casserole last night. Mac-n-cheese mixed with can of tuna, peas and cream of mushroom topped with potato chips and baked.
What horrible crime was that in penance for?
364 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:33:02am |
365 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:35:29am |
re: #364 Amory Blaine
Being poor.
Boxed mac and cheese is damned cheap, but made from scratch is cheap too, and once you try it, it's hard to go back. Would be great in that casserole.
366 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:35:42am |
re: #361 NJDhockeyfan
I quit over a year ago without any problems. I was cig-free for 3 months. After my seizure in Tennessee and waking up 3 days later in the hospital, all I wanted was a cigarette. I had one and that was enough. When I got home my mother was there to help take care of me. She smokes and kept handing them to me. I've been smoking ever since.
Funny, I was just thinking that the only time in the past year+ since I quit smoking that I really craved a ciggie butt was when I was in the hospital in February and got a report that I seriously didn't like. Fortunately, I came home to my e-cig and got past it without slipping back.
367 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:35:45am |
re: #363 LudwigVanQuixote
Back when I was a younger dumbass, we could feed 4 dudes on like 2 bux. It got it's moniker because when I'd serve it I would say "here fucker".
368 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:36:28am |
The troubled bank, already besieged by multibillion-dollar lawsuits and massive financial losses, saw its stock fall more than 2 percent in late-morning trading. The shares have plunged almost 44 percent for the quarter, the worst performing in the Dow Jones industrial average by far. For the year, the stock is down 56 percent.
Now the bank faces a public-relations backlash.
The debit-card change has sparked fury on the Web and cable news channels. Consumers complained on message boards and in social media, vowing to take their business elsewhere.
BoA currently holds our mortgage. The wife and I talked last night about looking elsewhere. I have no compunctions about kicking BoA while they're down. :)
369 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:37:23am |
re: #366 allegro
Funny, I was just thinking that the only time in the past year+ since I quit smoking that I really craved a ciggie butt was when I was in the hospital in February and got a report that I seriously didn't like. Fortunately, I came home to my e-cig and got past it without slipping back.
This morning my daughter asked me why I was coughing. I have to stop.
370 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:38:05am |
371 | recusancy Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:38:09am |
dkoser lectures Fox News reporter at OW
372 | CuriousLurker Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:38:36am |
re: #366 allegro
Sorry to interrupt, but can you please give me some links for both the e-cig itself and the liquid "tobacco" they use? It would be much appreciated.
373 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:39:11am |
re: #371 recusancy
dkoser lectures Fox News reporter at OW
[Video]
That guy was good. It's no surprise that Fox ended up not airing the interview.
374 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:40:43am |
re: #369 NJDhockeyfan
This morning my daughter asked me why I was coughing. I have to stop.
Get an e-cig. I'm telling ya, it's a wonderful thing. It addresses the physical behavior by giving you a toy to handle and the oral pleasure, That for me was a bigger thing than the nicotine addiction I think and why the e-cig has worked so well. Right now I'm puffing on a lovely spearmint flavored vapor that is so much nicer than tobacco smoke. It's also cheap, less than a tenth of what I was spending on smokes.
(No I don't have any e-cig stock or other financial motive.)
375 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:41:14am |
re: #363 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually I've been scraping all my pennies for many moons and now is the time we are venturing into real estate and buying our first home. Meet with real estate agent in about 2 hours for our first property "showings".
376 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:41:34am |
re: #368 makeitstop
BoA currently holds our mortgage. The wife and I talked last night about looking elsewhere. I have no compunctions about kicking BoA while they're down. :)
BoA are some serious fuckers. Some years ago, they lost one of my pay checks after I had deposited it, in person, to a person behind the counter. I had the receipt.
When I say lost, I mean they physically lost the check.
So they had credited my account because the teller punched it in, but then a few days later pulled the money out without telling me and caused a couple of things to bounce which of course led to overdraft fees and a whole bunch of hassle.
In the course of trying to clear that up, they tried to tell me that the receipt I held did not mean that they actually received my paycheck and argued with me about how nice they would be if they removed even one overdraft fee!
Well... let's just say they will never get my business again.
377 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:43:15am |
re: #370 Alouette
Shock treatment.
I understand. I do. It just will have the opposite effect of what was intended. Please understand I am not defending smoking or Z's habit. I'm just saying that good intended and well meant acts like that will not be productive.
378 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:43:31am |
re: #368 makeitstop
BoA currently holds our mortgage. The wife and I talked last night about looking elsewhere. I have no compunctions about kicking BoA while they're down. :)
I checked the other day whether BoA was the source bank on any of my debit or credit cards. If they had been I would have dropped the account right then and there.
We build this whole infrastructure to handle electronic commerce*, save dealing with cash and checks all the time, and then once there is an difficulty the banks handled it like a cash cow to be milked or slaughtered at need.
The banks change the rules of the game as they go, and in a way it's a violation of a social contract. And they might perhaps be learning that certain things will involve a backlash. Or, which is probably more likely, all the banks will start charging and we'll be stuck once the initial round of upset ends.
* - And this was a convenience for both the banks and the consumers since it takes people, facilities, mail costs, etc. to deal with all the paper involved in processing checks.
379 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:43:39am |
re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote
Like most of us I know people who quit alcohol, cocaine, whatever. What many of them have in common is an inability to quit tobacco to this day. I was lucky, I had a case of strep throat that made inhaling cool air painful. By the time my throat healed I was past the worst of the cravings.
Tobacco may be the most powerful addictant of them all. Or so it seems, I'm no expert.
380 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:44:02am |
re: #372 CuriousLurker
Sorry to interrupt, but can you please give me some links for both the e-cig itself and the liquid "tobacco" they use? It would be much appreciated.
There are a bunch of companies and types of e-cigs. I have the Joye 510 that has worked well for me. Of the companies I have ordered supplies from, this one has been my favorite: Esmoker Online
381 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:44:11am |
re: #369 NJDhockeyfan
This morning my daughter asked me why I was coughing. I have to stop.
It is the best thing you could ever do for your daughter if not now, then years from now when she's an adult and wants her dad around to enjoy her family.
You already did it so you know you can..
382 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:45:14am |
Of course now my weight went up and I carry this gigantic boiler on the front of my body. But I feel much healthier.
;)
383 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:45:22am |
re: #379 Rightwingconspirator
Like most of us I know people who quit alcohol, cocaine, whatever. What many of them have in common is an inability to quit tobacco to this day. I was lucky, I had a case of strep throat that made inhaling cool air painful. By the time my throat healed I was past the worst of the cravings.
Tobacco may be the most powerful addictant of them all. Or so it seems, I'm no expert.
More than one MD I know claims that nicotine is more addictive than heroin.
384 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:45:41am |
re: #376 LudwigVanQuixote
effen BofA.. Back in the 80's they made a 40000 dollar mistake with my checking account...After we determined they don't do math well..I left them forever..
385 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:45:52am |
re: #377 LudwigVanQuixote
I understand. I do. It just will have the opposite effect of what was intended. Please understand I am not defending smoking or Z's habit. I'm just saying that good intended and well meant acts like that will not be productive.
What I really must do is make him a dentist's appointment. He is on my dental insurance plan! He only insists that he will not go to our family dentist (too embarrassed after neglecting his teeth for so long) so I have to go through the list of providers and find one who is accepting new patients, who is totally outside of our circle of social contacts.
386 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:48:06am |
Years and years ago we opened checking and savings accounts at a little local bank. Then a few years ago that bank got eated by a state bank, and then the state bank got eated by BofA.
387 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:48:54am |
re: #384 HoosierHoops
effen BofA.. Back in the 80's they made a 40000 dollar mistake with my checking account...After we determined they don't do math well..I left them forever..
Yeah. They have zero customer service and really do ooze a view of middle class person as mark.
388 | CuriousLurker Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:48:54am |
re: #380 allegro
There are a bunch of companies and types of e-cigs. I have the Joye 510 that has worked well for me. Of the companies I have ordered supplies from, this one has been my favorite: Esmoker Online
Thanks!
389 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:50:13am |
re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote
Good for you!
I fortunately started smoking after college. Unfortunately, it has been a slug fest of quitting and then slipping up again since then. The longest I have quit for was about a year and a half, the second longest about 9 months and then I have had multiple 3-6 month stints before getting back to it.
It sucks. I hate the way it makes my clothing smell. I hate everything about it - except of course for the nicotine and the fact that it really does chill me out after a stressing.
It really sucks.
I quit trying to quit. It wasn't worth the guilt/failure cycle.
I actually smoke less now.
Trying to do it during the hormonal turmoil of my present time of life is just stupid, IMHO. Meds don't help, the Patch didn't work. I quit trying.
I figure, I quit drinking alcohol, that's enough for one life-time.
390 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:50:24am |
re: #386 Alouette
Years and years ago we opened checking and savings accounts at a little local bank. Then a few years ago that bank got eated by a state bank, and then the state bank got eated by BofA.
I was totally serious about the Credit Union thing.
391 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:50:37am |
re: #383 LudwigVanQuixote
More than one MD I know claims that nicotine is more addictive than heroin.
I maintain that the behavior of smoking is a big part of the addiction and that is why nicotine patches, gum, etc. aren't that effective. If it was just the nicotine addiction, they would be. Those dealies did nothing for me to help me quit. Only when the behavior addiction was satisfied could I stop smoking.
392 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:51:30am |
re: #386 Alouette
Years and years ago we opened checking and savings accounts at a little local bank. Then a few years ago that bank got eated by a state bank, and then the state bank got eated by BofA.
That's pretty much what happened with our mortgage. I think BoA is the third stop for it since we bought the house.
393 | Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:51:41am |
What made it possible for me to quit was nicotine gum. It took care of the worst of the craving while I was slowly losing the habit.
394 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:52:26am |
re: #376 LudwigVanQuixote
BoA are some serious fuckers. Some years ago, they lost one of my pay checks after I had deposited it, in person, to a person behind the counter. I had the receipt.
When I say lost, I mean they physically lost the check.
So they had credited my account because the teller punched it in, but then a few days later pulled the money out without telling me and caused a couple of things to bounce which of course led to overdraft fees and a whole bunch of hassle.
In the course of trying to clear that up, they tried to tell me that the receipt I held did not mean that they actually received my paycheck and argued with me about how nice they would be if they removed even one overdraft fee!
Well... let's just say they will never get my business again.
BoA is the servicer of my mortgage. A short version of part of my sysiphean task.
Lost job 3 years ago. After a few months, applied for HAMP (home mortgage workout). Qualified. Sent paper. Wife's last name misspelled - close, but not the same as her actual (which is on original loan papers). Called BoA asked what to do? Lined through and corrected with Notary watching, we all signed. Rejected because we modified the paperwork.
For the past 2 and a half years I've been in the workout process. Every time we get the final papers with her name misspelled the same way. i've told them when they give solutions over the phone that unless it's fixed OR correction instructions are given to us in writing that we can't sign - notary won't accept wrong person by ID. I have to re-start the process every few months as there's a time limit. Oh, and three times a specialist has been assigned and has left the company before it's finished. Two of those, the specialist "lost the paperwork".
I get a weekly call telling me I'm overdue, and each call, even acknowledging it's their error, results in a hit to my credit rating. For three years now.
If BoA were to go up in a fire, I'd feel sorry for everyone at the bottom rung for losing a job and joining the ranks of unemployed. For the rest, I'd bring food to cook over the fire and savor the Banker-flavored meals for a long time.
395 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:53:19am |
I'm waiting for the E-Cigar...I'll fill it up with the finest tasting Cuban Cigar juice known to man...
396 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:54:00am |
re: #355 Rightwingconspirator
It appears Attorney general Holder lied to Congress about Fast & Furious-CBS
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Excerpt
WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."
Isn't that an impeachable offence?
397 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:54:37am |
re: #391 allegro
I maintain that the behavior of smoking is a big part of the addiction and that is why nicotine patches, gum, etc. aren't that effective. If it was just the nicotine addiction, they would be. Those dealies did nothing for me to help me quit. Only when the behavior addiction was satisfied could I stop smoking.
yup, exactly...you must alter your entire routine, at least I did...I've quit a few times and am smoking again, altho very little...but still, it is very easy for me to go backwards
398 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:56:01am |
Maybe I should just work on getting Zedushka to give up the soft drinks? I quit drinking soda 10 years ago and now I drink only sparkling water (OK, with an AM coffee and occasional adult beverage). Any sweetened soft drink tastes gaggingly sweet to me.
I think it would be easier for him to give up the soft drinks since there are alternatives available and it will make him feel better about himself.
399 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:56:28am |
re: #396 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't that an impeachable offence?
F&F is a minor misunderstanding...move along
400 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:56:39am |
re: #379 Rightwingconspirator
Like most of us I know people who quit alcohol, cocaine, whatever. What many of them have in common is an inability to quit tobacco to this day. I was lucky, I had a case of strep throat that made inhaling cool air painful. By the time my throat healed I was past the worst of the cravings.
Tobacco may be the most powerful addictant of them all. Or so it seems, I'm no expert.
Wife quit successfully twice. After 5 yrs without, we were going to have our Great Maryjane Experience with a friend (pusher). She didn't want to seem inexperienced, so she smoked a cigarette 'for practice'. In six months we had forgotten about pot, but she took 5 years to shake the tobacco. (The second 'quit' has lasted 30 yrs. She got on a 14 hr flight without cigs, and took it from there.)
401 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:56:41am |
re: #396 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't that an impeachable offence?
Can be, does not have to be.
If, of course, what the paper reports is the full and correct story.
402 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:56:46am |
re: #396 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't that an impeachable offence?
The GOP's in Congress are determined to link this to Obama. If Holder were smart, he'd admit responsibility and stop them in their tracks, but nooooooo.
They want a Monica Lewinsky stained reason to impeach Obama.
403 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:57:30am |
re: #398 Alouette
Maybe I should just work on getting Zedushka to give up the soft drinks? I quit drinking soda 10 years ago and now I drink only sparkling water (OK, with an AM coffee and occasional adult beverage). Any sweetened soft drink tastes gaggingly sweet to me.
I think it would be easier for him to give up the soft drinks since there are alternatives available and it will make him feel better about himself.
I husband is now addicted to a certain brand of green tea. Somehow he made the switch from coffee and soda. Only thing is that he has to carry the tea bags everywhere he goes. LOL
404 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:57:50am |
re: #394 kirkspencer
I had a similar experience with Wells Fargo when they bought our mortgage (or however they get them). They changed my last name to my husband's last name. I guess they couldn't get past a married woman who didn't take her husband's name. I tried in vain to get them to change it to my legal name but finally gave up. It was the name on deed that counted.
So a couple of years after I sold the house, I opened an account at a local Wells Fargo bank. They saw in their records someone with the same SS# and different last name. I told them what happened and that it was THEIR error. They insisted that I prove to them that I hadn't changed my name when I got married. How the hell do I prove a negative? They wanted my birth certificate - proves nothing of course except that my name is my name. I told them to go blow and moved my account to a great local bank.
405 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:59:39am |
re: #394 kirkspencer
I am so sorry to hear that. BoA really doesn't give a damn about the damage their incompetence causes. If you were wealthy, of course they would happily lick your sphincter clean if you asked. But if you are just an average working person, you are grist for their mill.
406 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:59:42am |
re: #402 ggt
The GOP's in Congress are determined to link this to Obama. If Holder were smart, he'd admit responsibility and stop them in their tracks, but nooo.
They want a Monica Lewinsky stained reason to impeach Obama.
Holder should man-up and take responsibility for this fiasco or he and the White House will have to face a dark storm of MSM questions. This doesn't look good.
407 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:59:59am |
re: #404 allegro
I had a similar experience with Wells Fargo when they bought our mortgage (or however they get them). They changed my last name to my husband's last name. I guess they couldn't get past a married woman who didn't take her husband's name. I tried in vain to get them to change it to my legal name but finally gave up. It was the name on deed that counted.
So a couple of years after I sold the house, I opened an account at a local Wells Fargo bank. They saw in their records someone with the same SS# and different last name. I told them what happened and that it was THEIR error. They insisted that I prove to them that I hadn't changed my name when I got married. How the hell do I prove a negative? They wanted my birth certificate - proves nothing of course except that my name is my name. I told them to go blow and moved my account to a great local bank.
IRS documents. When I changed my name due to marriage, everyone that had anything to do with issuing IRS documents (1099's etc) knew I had done it -- Some cross-reference with the SS Administration.
408 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:00:06am |
re: #402 ggt
The GOP's in Congress are determined to link this to Obama. If Holder were smart, he'd admit responsibility and stop them in their tracks, but nooo.
They want a Monica Lewinsky stained reason to impeach Obama.
it's definitely linked to BO and Holder....to think otherwise is inconceivable imo....but, no big deal, right?
409 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:00:37am |
re: #406 NJDhockeyfan
Holder should man-up and take responsibility for this fiasco or he and the White House will have to face a dark storm of MSM questions. This doesn't look good.
exactly!
410 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:00:44am |
re: #406 NJDhockeyfan
Holder should man-up and take responsibility for this fiasco or he and the White House will have to face a dark storm of MSM questions. This doesn't look good.
Holder's lying...bet me
411 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:00:54am |
I always thought "fast and furious" was a dumb name for a gun operation. Maybe an operation to stop car thieves. Me thinks some douche had a super man crush on Vin Diesel.
413 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:01:47am |
re: #408 albusteve
it's definitely linked to BO and Holder...to think otherwise is inconceivable imo...but, no big deal, right?
It is a big deal, it's a huge deal.
but, do I think BO's crony's devised and implemented the plan? NO, it's got the ATF's rubber-stamp of stupidity on it. They had that stamp long before BO.
414 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:02:02am |
re: #396 NJDhockeyfan
Just because he was sent papers does not mean he read them. Hardly impeachable. I mean it's nothing like outing Valerie Plame or starting a war based on lies.
415 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:02:15am |
re: #407 ggt
IRS documents. When I changed my name due to marriage, everyone that had anything to do with issuing IRS documents (1099's etc) knew I had done it -- Some cross-reference with the SS Administration.
It was much easier and more satisfying to tell them to fuck off and open an account elsewhere. ;)
416 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:02:21am |
re: #411 Amory Blaine
I always thought "fast and furious" was a dumb name for a gun operation. Maybe an operation to stop car thieves. Me thinks some douche had a super man crush on Vin Diesel.
I believe that is where they got the name. Overgrown teenage boys at ATF thought it was cool.
417 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:03:46am |
re: #398 Alouette
Maybe I should just work on getting Zedushka to give up the soft drinks? I quit drinking soda 10 years ago and now I drink only sparkling water (OK, with an AM coffee and occasional adult beverage). Any sweetened soft drink tastes gaggingly sweet to me.
I think it would be easier for him to give up the soft drinks since there are alternatives available and it will make him feel better about himself.
As a short-step, move him to carbonated drinks that are not carbonated with phosphoric acid. While the opinions are mixed, there is some evidence that phosphurus-formed carbonation is guilty of many of the charges claimed of carbonated drinks, while carbonic acid beverages aren't.
418 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:04:39am |
re: #398 Alouette
I think it would be easier for him to give up the soft drinks since there are alternatives available and it will make him feel better about himself.
Reasonable facsimiles as substitutes are important when it comes to kicking habits.
Soda is definitively easier to replace than smokes. With smokes, you just have to let go.
For me, it was made "easy" when I focused on what I actually needed to do in order to succeed kicking the addiction in the simplest way possible:
Do not smoke.
Smoke-free for over 27 months now.
419 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:05:01am |
re: #417 kirkspencer
As a short-step, move him to carbonated drinks that are not carbonated with phosphoric acid. While the opinions are mixed, there is some evidence that phosphurus-formed carbonation is guilty of many of the charges claimed of carbonated drinks, while carbonic acid beverages aren't.
Wait, what? Can you give some examples of the kind of drinks you are talking about? Like, brand names?
420 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:05:30am |
re: #398 Alouette
Maybe I should just work on getting Zedushka to give up the soft drinks? I quit drinking soda 10 years ago and now I drink only sparkling water (OK, with an AM coffee and occasional adult beverage). Any sweetened soft drink tastes gaggingly sweet to me.
I think it would be easier for him to give up the soft drinks since there are alternatives available and it will make him feel better about himself.
Maybe he could see the doctor. From my personal experience, anyone that addicted is in need of Neuro-transmitter replacments --psyc meds. A little zoloft goes a long way.
Hubby quit smoking and started again. I told him if he didn't go back on meds, he was not allowed to quit smoking again. It was pure hell living with him for 2 years with no cigs and no meds.
421 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:06:02am |
re: #410 albusteve
Holder's lying...bet me
I agree with you. While he continues to lie about his knowledge of the operation he will take down the Obama administration with himself.
422 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:06:16am |
re: #412 Amory Blaine
If he lied he's gotta go.
So not trying to be harsh here, but what about the lie that Saddam had a nuclear program that started a war which directly contributed to the current financial mess we are in?
What about lying that climate isn't changing or that evolution didn't happen?
What about lying about black people coming to kill your granny?
What about lying about healthcare?
What about the lying about vaccines?
What about lying about doubts as to citizenship?
What about all those lies?
Why are those not impeachable, but this, which may well be an error and may not is suddenly impeachable?
423 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:06:17am |
re: #394 kirkspencer
That completely sucks. I haven't had to deal with BoA, but with Chase for my mortgage. The process has been mostly okay, but the rates have been on the high side of the average. We do all other banking through Chase, so it was convenient to have everything linked and it's a neighborhood branch.
But if the bank pulled a series of stunts like that, I'd be raising holy hell and demanding heads on a platter - all while looking to another bank to process the refi under HARP (if you qualify). And I think the other bank would be amenable to doing it for you too.
Oh, and writing letters to your local reps - and newspapers - can spur them into action too.
Whatever route you take, good luck in taking BoA down a notch or 10.
424 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:07:08am |
The question is, how is Obama going to throw Holder under the bus before November 2012?
425 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:08:11am |
re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote
So not trying to be harsh here, but What about the lie that Saddam had a nuclear program that started a war which directly contributed to the current financial mess we are in?
What about lying that Climate isn't changing or that evolution didn't happen?
What about lying about black people coming to kill your granny?
What about lying about healthcare?
What about the lying about vaccines?
What about lying about doubts as to citizenship?
What about all those lies?
Why are those not impeachable, but this, which may well be an error and may not is suddenly impeachable?
You trying to justify Holder's lying?
426 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:09:13am |
re: #396 NJDhockeyfan
In theory. Realistically, I'm sure Holder can dodge the bullet. "Mis-recollected' & all that. This should not reflect on Obama apart from the "at the helm" connection. IMO at this point, Holder should go.
427 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:09:16am |
428 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:09:41am |
re: #425 NJDhockeyfan
You trying to justify Holder's lying?
No I am pointing out your hypocrisy for whining about a small fish that may or may not have been malicious and does not actually prove what you claim it does, vs. well known grievous lies that have killed people and ruined our economy.
429 | iossarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:09:51am |
re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote
"Saddam is buying yellowcake uranium from Nigeria!!!" -> nothing to see here, move along.
"I first found out that the Fast and Furious operation was leading to significant numbers of guns going missing a few weeks ago" -> IMPEACH EVERYBODY!!!
430 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:10:49am |
re: #396 NJDhockeyfan
No, it's not an impeachable offense. He has enough wiggle room to claim he was mistaken without perjuring himself before Congress or being brought up on obstruction charges.
There would have to be a whole lot more to bring Holder up on charges - such as paperwork initiating the program showing his signature and dated from that time period that contradicts his claims that he only heard about the program a few weeks ago.
Absent that, this kerfuffle doesn't have the legs the GOP thinks it should (or does).
431 | iossarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:11:51am |
Funny how it's all "Obama wants to take your guns away" until there's political hay to be made. Then it's all "WHY WASN'T OBAMA REGULATING GUN SALES???"
432 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:12:03am |
re: #421 NJDhockeyfan
I agree with you. While he continues to lie about his knowledge of the operation he will take down the Obama administration with himself.
playing stupid at the top is a very poor strategy, but I would not expect Holder to know that....now his tit's in a ringer because he didn't man up when he had the chance, like you said...I see this caper as a disaster in the making, but others just blow it off
433 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:13:20am |
re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote
So not trying to be harsh here, but what about the lie that Saddam had a nuclear program that started a war which directly contributed to the current financial mess we are in?
What about lying that climate isn't changing or that evolution didn't happen?
What about lying about black people coming to kill your granny?
What about lying about healthcare?
What about the lying about vaccines?
What about lying about doubts as to citizenship?
What about all those lies?
Why are those not impeachable, but this, which may well be an error and may not is suddenly impeachable?
what's any of that have to do with F&F?....seems to me we should stay on target instead of whining about the past
434 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:14:01am |
Isn't there some debacle about them trying to prosecute the gun dealers they told to sell the straw purchases?
One had not knowing what the other is doing at the ATF?
435 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:14:35am |
re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote
I agree with all them points. The lies need to be called out and exposed.
436 | iossarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:14:46am |
re: #433 albusteve
what's any of that have to do with F&F?...seems to me we should stay on target instead of whining about the past
Holder's comments are in the past aren't they.
Why not just move on? Why insist on looking back?
437 | BishopX Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:14:56am |
So I just read the memo Holder got. It was a weekly briefing, 3 pages long, with 15 bullet points. The only unredacted bullet point is the fast and furious one. It reads:
Tuscon Gun Trafficking (D. Arizona): On October 27, the Organized Crime and Gang Section (OCGS) indicted eight individuals under seal relating to the trafficking of 228 firearms to Mexico. The sealing will likely last until another investigation, Pheonix-based "Operation Fast and Furious," is ready for takedown.
That's it. He heard the words once 9 months before he said he did. Big whoop.
438 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:15:51am |
re: #428 LudwigVanQuixote
No I am pointing out your hypocrisy for whining about a small fish that may or may not have been malicious and does not actually prove what you claim it does, vs. well known grievous lies that have killed people and ruined our economy.
It's not just me, it's a lot of newspapers, TV station, and the MSM reporting on this.
439 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:16:10am |
re: #431 iossarian
Funny how it's all "Obama wants to take your guns away" until there's political hay to be made. Then it's all "WHY WASN'T OBAMA REGULATING GUN SALES???"
Yeah.. Just like they were all angry at him for not getting involved with Libya, until he did and then they were against it... Or like the Reagan initiative of cap and trade that McCain/Palin ran on suddenly became cap and tax or how outing a secret operative (Valerie Plame) and lying about that is actual literal treason, except when they do it, and far less important than the president getting a BJ. OR, when they rewrite the clean air act with Haliburton loopholes and castrate the EPA at the cost of thousands of American lives and properties, and destroyed farmland and farm jobs but somehow claim to be protecting jobs.
440 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:16:24am |
re: #436 iossarian
Holder's comments are in the past aren't they.
Why not just move on? Why insist on looking back?
By that logic, nobody should respond to any post by someone else!
441 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:16:44am |
re: #438 NJDhockeyfan
It's not just me, it's a lot of newspapers, TV station, and the MSM reporting on this.
They are hypocrites too.
442 | Kragar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:17:34am |
443 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:17:37am |
re: #433 albusteve
what's any of that have to do with F&F?...seems to me we should stay on target instead of whining about the past
Lots of those are in the present there Stevo. I know reading comprehension ain't your bag, but please do try to keep up.
444 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:17:50am |
re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote
So not trying to be harsh here, but what about the lie that Saddam had a nuclear program that started a war which directly contributed to the current financial mess we are in?
What about lying that climate isn't changing or that evolution didn't happen?
What about lying about black people coming to kill your granny?
What about lying about healthcare?
What about the lying about vaccines?
What about lying about doubts as to citizenship?
What about all those lies?
Why are those not impeachable, but this, which may well be an error and may not is suddenly impeachable?
Don't ask me, I never understood why blowjobs were impeachable.
445 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:18:31am |
re: #432 albusteve
playing stupid at the top is a very poor strategy, but I would not expect Holder to know that...now his tit's in a ringer because he didn't man up when he had the chance, like you said...I see this caper as a disaster in the making, but others just blow it off
Worked great for Reagan with Iran Contra...
446 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:18:42am |
re: #436 iossarian
Holder's comments are in the past aren't they.
Why not just move on? Why insist on looking back?
There is a dead Border Patrol agent involved. That's why this is a big deal.
447 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:18:43am |
re: #444 ggt
Don't ask me, I never understood why blowjobs were impeachable.
Depends on the quality of it, I would say!
/
448 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:18:53am |
A Strong Economy for All, an umbrella group of labor and progressive groups including SEIU 1199, the Communications Workers of America, the UAW and Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Workers Union will march tomorrow afternoon. The larger coalition is also coordinating a 2 p.m. student walkout at college campuses around New York City.
For all the talk about anger and the protests spreading, it's a fraction of the number of protesters who came out against the Iraq war for any number of demonstrations, and while the media here in the NYC metro area fixates on the protests, the number of people involved is incredibly small - a couple hundred (or a few thousand on weekends), compared with 8 million living in NYC overall. Getting the unions involved could be a game-changed, but the protesters have to come up with a more coherent message than just being angry with Wall Street (even as the same unions have their funds managed by the same Wall Street bigwigs).
449 | Kragar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:18:59am |
Christie's big announcement: No, I'm not running.
450 | iossarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:19:19am |
re: #440 sattv4u2
By that logic, nobody should respond to any post by someone else!
Exactly.
FWIW, looking at that memo, and given the context of the Congress questioning (when Holder was being asked specifically about the guns "walking", which the memo does not appear to mention at all), his explanation that he meant "I heard about the guns walking as a result of the Fast and Furious operation a few weeks ago" sounds pretty plausible, absent further evidence.
451 | Kragar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:19:41am |
re: #444 ggt
Don't ask me, I never understood why blowjobs were impeachable.
Blowjobs aren't impeachable.
Lying about blowjobs is impeachable.
452 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:19:41am |
re: #447 sattv4u2
Depends on the quality of it, I would say!
/
From what I understand, there is no such thing as a bad blowjob.
453 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:19:44am |
re: #430 lawhawk
No, it's not an impeachable offense. He has enough wiggle room to claim he was mistaken without perjuring himself before Congress or being brought up on obstruction charges.
There would have to be a whole lot more to bring Holder up on charges - such as paperwork initiating the program showing his signature and dated from that time period that contradicts his claims that he only heard about the program a few weeks ago.
Absent that, this kerfuffle doesn't have the legs the GOP thinks it should (or does).
Quoted for truth.
Yet another outrageous outrage!
454 | iossarian Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:20:43am |
re: #446 NJDhockeyfan
There is a dead Border Patrol agent involved. That's why this is a big deal.
Thousands of dead people in Iraq, FWIW. Based on lies and deliberately cooked-up evidence.
Difference?
455 | Kragar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:20:43am |
re: #452 ggt
From what I understand, there is no such thing as a bad blowjob.
Never had a biter, huh?
456 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:20:43am |
re: #451 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Blowjobs aren't impeachable.
Lying about blowjobs is impeachable.
Why? Personally, I don't consider blowjobs to be sex. He was asked about sex. He didn't have sex with her.
457 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:21:11am |
458 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:21:24am |
re: #451 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Blowjobs aren't impeachable.
Lying about blowjobs is impeachable.
But lying to start wars under false pretences and treasonously outing a NOC isn't in GOP land.
459 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:21:46am |
re: #445 LudwigVanQuixote
Worked great for Reagan with Iran Contra...
Keep going back in time. That will certainly help Holder's case.
460 | Kragar Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:22:17am |
re: #457 ggt
I've never had a blowjob
:) Immagirl
There are no girls on the internet, and all the children are Chris Hansen.
461 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:22:52am |
re: #449 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Christie's big announcement: No, I'm not running.
My big announcement: No shit.
462 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:23:19am |
Ah, I see why there's impeachment talk this morning.
House Republicans Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'
I'm pretty much ready to throw in the towel. We are a dysfunctional country and there's nothing I can do about it. I give up.
463 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:23:31am |
re: #452 ggt
From what I understand, there is no such thing as a bad blowjob.
I dunno!!!
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464 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:23:54am |
465 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:24:04am |
re: #462 Killgore Trout
Ah, I see why there's impeachment talk this morning.
House Republicans Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'I'm pretty much ready to throw in the towel. We are a dysfunctional country and there's nothing I can do about it. I give up.
Could be worse. We could be Zimbabwe --or Rhodesia or whatever it's called these days.
466 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:24:22am |
re: #456 ggt
Why? Personally, I don't consider blowjobs to be sex. He was asked about sex. He didn't have sex with her.
*european rolleyes*
468 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:25:42am |
re: #446 NJDhockeyfan
There is a dead Border Patrol agent involved. That's why this is a big deal.
Why not make a big deal over the fact that the agent shot back with beanbags before he was killed?
Oh, right. It wouldn't affect the Obama administration.
469 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:26:00am |
re: #461 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
My big announcement: No shit.
The prayers for the great white hope deliverance continue...
470 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:26:10am |
re: #462 Killgore Trout
We are a dysfunctional country
It seems to work out pretty well for a gang of nihilistic and cynical hypocrites.
471 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:26:43am |
re: #466 000G
*european rolleyes*
Sex means sexual intercourse. Clinton is a lawyer --he answered truthfully.
Either way, it was a stupid attempt at impeachment.
472 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:27:09am |
re: #465 ggt
Could be worse. We could be Zimbabwe --or Rhodesia or whatever it's called these days.
It's not going to happen tomorrow but that's where we're headed. I don't have much hope for the future anymore.
473 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:27:54am |
re: #28 laZardo
IKR.
I switched to Chrome, runs faster but unfortunately there's no option to delete your history and temp files after you close. There is the "incognito" mode but it runs without plug-ins (particularly ABP), so I have to deal with popups.
1. Wrench icon -> Options -> Under the Hood -> Content Settings -> Clear cookies and other site and plug-in data when I close my browser
2. Wrench icon -> Tools -> Extensions -> "Allow in incognito"
TIME TRAVEL POST!
474 | Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:28:52am |
re: #471 ggt
Sex means sexual intercourse. Clinton is a lawyer --he answered truthfully.
Either way, it was a stupid attempt at impeachment.
Monica Lewinsky was the kitchen sink.
475 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:29:37am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
It's not going to happen tomorrow but that's where we're headed. I don't have much hope for the future anymore.
I'm old enough that I can look to the youth. I won't be here to see what they do, probably, so I can be hopeful.
476 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:30:02am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
It's not going to happen tomorrow but that's where we're headed. I don't have much hope for the future anymore.
the future is the next election...that's it
477 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:30:14am |
re: #468 wrenchwench
Why not make a big deal over the fact that the agent shot back with beanbags before he was killed?
Oh, right. It wouldn't affect the Obama administration.
He was killed by a gun given to a violent drug gang by the ATF. That is serious.
478 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:30:52am |
re: #471 ggt
Sex means sexual intercourse. Clinton is a lawyer --he answered truthfully.
Either way, it was a stupid attempt at impeachment.
Could the cigar be impeached?
479 | albusteve Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:30:59am |
re: #477 NJDhockeyfan
He was killed by a gun given to a violent drug gang by the ATF. That is serious.
not as serious as bombing Nagasaki....move along
480 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:31:15am |
re: #471 ggt
Sex means sexual intercourse.
That's a very misleading statement. Yes, it can mean that but the more common and primary meaning when referencing an activity with sex is any sexual activity, not just intercourse. Take up a dictionary.
Narrowing the meaning to sexual intercourse is just a way to attempt to get away with nitty gritty without calling it by its appropriate umbrella term.
481 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:31:24am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
It's not going to happen tomorrow but that's where we're headed. I don't have much hope for the future anymore.
So it goes...
482 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:31:29am |
re: #419 Alouette
Wait, what? Can you give some examples of the kind of drinks you are talking about? Like, brand names?
OK, most coca cola and pepsi products use phosphoric acid for the carbonation process. Dr. Peppers use phosphoric acid.
Most root beers don't use phosphoric acid. Most ginger ales don't use phosphoric acid.
7-up doesn't (though it also doesn't use carbonic acid but instead uses a citric acid process).
Look on the ingredient panel for "phosphoric acid."
483 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:31:38am |
484 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:32:23am |
re: #480 000G
That's a very misleading statement. Yes, it can mean that but the more common and primary meaning when referencing an activity with sex is any sexual activity, not just intercourse. Take up a dictionary.
Narrowing the meaning to sexual intercourse is just a way to attempt to get away with nitty gritty without calling it by its appropriate umbrella term.
Lawyers were involved. Clinton should have asked for clarification. I wonder if he was deposed --it would have come out in a deposition.
485 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:33:35am |
re: #484 ggt
"It depends what your definition of 'is' is."
Spare me the BS. You say Clinton used legaleze. I say he pulled teenager weasel tactics.
486 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:35:11am |
re: #462 Killgore Trout
Ah, I see why there's impeachment talk this morning.
House Republicans Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'I'm pretty much ready to throw in the towel. We are a dysfunctional country and there's nothing I can do about it. I give up.
The game plan for Obama's second term begins to take shape. They're gonna try to impeach him.
Fuckers.
487 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:35:29am |
re: #485 000G
"It depends what your definition of 'is' is."
Spare me the BS. You say Clinton used legaleze. I say he pulled teenager weasel tactics.
if sex isn't technically sexual intercourse, then why do the other "forms" need a qualifier?
oral sex
anal sex
internet sex
etc.
488 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:36:33am |
re: #423 lawhawk
That completely sucks. I haven't had to deal with BoA, but with Chase for my mortgage. The process has been mostly okay, but the rates have been on the high side of the average. We do all other banking through Chase, so it was convenient to have everything linked and it's a neighborhood branch.
But if the bank pulled a series of stunts like that, I'd be raising holy hell and demanding heads on a platter - all while looking to another bank to process the refi under HARP (if you qualify). And I think the other bank would be amenable to doing it for you too.
Oh, and writing letters to your local reps - and newspapers - can spur them into action too.
Whatever route you take, good luck in taking BoA down a notch or 10.
I've tried - reread and see that it was only a partial list.
I suffer from the handicap of long-term unemployment. My retirement savings are about gone, which'll make this rather moot.
As for congressional... I'm in North Georgia. My representative is Tom Graves, and my Senators are Chambliss and Isakson. All have long and solid ties to the other side. Oh - and Georgia's laws are fun in regard to this. There's no court requirement for foreclosure, and I have to initiate the suit and prove that BoA wasn't a valid servicer to get relief, as a large servicer is by default considered valid when pursuing delinquent loans and foreclosures. gah. Sorry, there's more and I'm not going to kill this board to tell it. Just say that BoA is servicer not by my choice, and I will never willingly do business with them again.
489 | BishopX Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:38:42am |
re: #487 ggt
When you're using those terms many health professionals will refer to genital sex....
490 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:39:23am |
re: #489 BishopX
When you're using those terms many health professionals will refer to genital sex...
Never heard that before. Sign of the times.
491 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:40:17am |
re: #423 lawhawk
That completely sucks. I haven't had to deal with BoA, but with Chase for my mortgage. The process has been mostly okay, but the rates have been on the high side of the average. We do all other banking through Chase, so it was convenient to have everything linked and it's a neighborhood branch.
But if the bank pulled a series of stunts like that, I'd be raising holy hell and demanding heads on a platter - all while looking to another bank to process the refi under HARP (if you qualify). And I think the other bank would be amenable to doing it for you too.
Oh, and writing letters to your local reps - and newspapers - can spur them into action too.
Whatever route you take, good luck in taking BoA down a notch or 10.
I should mention how glad I am that you post here.
492 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:40:39am |
re: #488 kirkspencer
I wish you the best of luck dealing with that nightmare.
493 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:42:14am |
re: #487 ggt
if sex isn't technically sexual intercourse, then why do the other "forms" need a qualifier?
oral sex
anal sex
internet sex
etc.
Errr... it can be qualified. "Vaginal intercourse" works fine, for instance. And "sexual intercourse" of course already is a qualifier. And the other forms do not "need" a qualifier. If you assume that the people you are adressing only think of sexual intercourse as sex, then maybe. But then again, that is not the primary meaning of "sex". That really is just a narrowed down meaning created by people who want to try to get away with some forms of sex without calling it such.
494 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:44:10am |
re: #488 kirkspencer
Wow, that sucks hardcore. My sympathies.
495 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:46:44am |
re: #488 kirkspencer
You're a whole lot more familiar with your situation than I could possibly glean from your limited recap, but I would still suggest contacting newspapers like the Atlanta Journal Constitution, which tends to do pretty good investigative stuff - and BoA can't deal with even more negative press. Sounds like you've got a pretty compelling story for the paper to take up.
Also, don't completely write off politicians even if they're from the other party - after all they don't know who else you might know and you might get help in the form of contacts or other information to help you get through to the right parties in BoA to address things. You might have still better luck with your local state reps - they might have still more contacts or information to deal with this kind of situation.
496 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:54:02am |
re: #493 000G
Errr... it can be qualified. "Vaginal intercourse" works fine, for instance. And "sexual intercourse" of course already is a qualifier. And the other forms do not "need" a qualifier. If you assume that the people you are adressing only think of sexual intercourse as sex, then maybe. But then again, that is not the primary meaning of "sex". That really is just a narrowed down meaning created by people who want to try to get away with some forms of sex without calling it such.
But how much of this "qualifying" is because of Lewinskygate? Back in the 90's sex was sex--lose your virginity, get pregnant, sex.
497 | sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:55:42am |
re: #496 ggt
But how much of this "qualifying" is because of Lewinskygate? Back in the 90's sex was sex--lose your virginity, get pregnant, sex.
Okay ,,, but shouldn't we have dinner and drinks 1st?
(or at least get into the back seat of my dads car!!)
498 | Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:58:41am |
re: #497 sattv4u2
Okay ,,, but shouldn't we have dinner and drinks 1st?
(or at least get into the back seat of my dads car!!)
True love waits . . .
499 | allegro Tue, Oct 4, 2011 11:00:05am |
re: #495 lawhawk
That is some excellent advice. A well placed letter can have a dramatic result. Though it's certainly not in the realm of seriosity (I just made that word up - I like it) as your mortgage situation, I had a problem with a nazi HOA a few years ago. It just got out of hand with getting threatening letters over the dumbest little things like a small patch of mildew under the second story eaves that they told me I would be fined like $200 a day for. (I wasn't alone - they sent that same letter to almost everyone in the subdivision. It's Texas, sub-tropics - mildew happens.) I finally got infuriated and wrote to my local state congress person about our abusive and harassing HOA. Man, was I surprised about 2 weeks later when I got a letter of apology from the HOA! Never got threatened by them again.
500 | kirkspencer Tue, Oct 4, 2011 11:01:36am |
re: #495 lawhawk
You're a whole lot more familiar with your situation than I could possibly glean from your limited recap, but I would still suggest contacting newspapers like the Atlanta Journal Constitution, which tends to do pretty good investigative stuff - and BoA can't deal with even more negative press. Sounds like you've got a pretty compelling story for the paper to take up.
Also, don't completely write off politicians even if they're from the other party - after all they don't know who else you might know and you might get help in the form of contacts or other information to help you get through to the right parties in BoA to address things. You might have still better luck with your local state reps - they might have still more contacts or information to deal with this kind of situation.
Ah. I wasn't clear. I've spoken with my federal and state reps. I'm not guessing how they'll react, I know because we've already walked that path. I've also spoken with the news. The AJC is a lot more interested in the Atlanta versions of this tale, not those next to the Chattanooga border. The Chattanooga news media are sorta interested, except most of their business and interest is Tennessee and I'm, well, on the Georgia side of the border.
I should note that BoA has put itself in a bit of a hard place. If they push on to foreclosure I'm at the point I have to file for bankruptcy. At the bankruptcy hearing I'll submit as part of the cause the whole HAMP process, at which point the court will ask BoA why they didn't do their job with the paperwork and so forced me to bankruptcy. It's not something BoA really wants to face.
Again, there are three years of process, some involving attorneys, all of which has repeated at least twice. I called it sysiphean for a reason. Feel free to toss suggestions, but recognize there's a decent chance I've already done it at least once.
Oh, and I should point out that I'm depressed because I'm still unemployed. Part of "getting out of this" requires a regular income.
501 | Lidane Tue, Oct 4, 2011 11:20:47am |
re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote
You do stuff from home to help in little ways, because that is being a mensch, but you remember that you are not getting paid by them. Few people can afford to work for free and they know this.
I left early today because, well, I'm upset. Plus I have class at 3 anyway. Still, I wrote to my boss and said that even though I understood that a permanent position wasn't in the cards, I'm still willing to help them out in the meantime so they're not left in a lurch.
I offered to work from home on Mondays-Thursdays and come in Fridays, at least until I got a paid position. I also talked up the company, saying I'd had a good experience, liked the work I did and the people, and said that I saw no reason to leave abruptly when I could still help out on the side as I looked for a job. She thanked me for the letter and my attitude on the whole thing and told me that the senior officers at the company all personally expressed interest in helping me out. She also said that they'd keep me in the loop for as long as I wanted to be a part of the team.
It still hurts, but I have a feeling this might just turn out okay. *crosses fingers*
502 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 4, 2011 11:50:47am |
re: #477 NJDhockeyfan
He was killed by a gun given to a violent drug gang by the ATF. That is serious.
And if it hadn't been for "Fast and Furious", that cartel thug would have come unarmed.
Logic fail.
/late posting fail on my part...
P.S. Of course it is serious that a border patrol agent was killed. See my recent Pages for how I feel about them. And of course "Fast and Furious" was a stupid idea, but I don't think it was Holder's stupid idea.
503 | Jaerik Tue, Oct 4, 2011 11:14:39pm |
I'm a senior engineering manager for a game company subsidiary of a major entertainment company in San Diego. I'm in the process of growing my team from about 10 to 30 over the next few months. Server programmers, client guys (OpenGL and Flash), QA, tech writers, you name it.
If you're interested, shoot me a copy of your resume. We relocate if necessary. It's my name here @gmail.
504 | Lidane Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:05:38pm |
re: #503 Jaerik
I'm a senior engineering manager for a game company subsidiary of a major entertainment company in San Diego. I'm in the process of growing my team from about 10 to 30 over the next few months. Server programmers, client guys (OpenGL and Flash), QA, tech writers, you name it.
If you're interested, shoot me a copy of your resume. We relocate if necessary. It's my name here @gmail.
Wow! Thanks! :)
Just FYI, so you don't think I'm a coder or programmer-- I'm more of a Marketing person, especially in terms of social media and online marketing, but I've taken courses in tech writing and I'm a long-time gamer, so we could speak the same language.
Will you be at GDC here in Austin next week? I'll be at the expo on Tuesday and Wednesday and we could talk in person, or I can e-mail my resume to you. Or both. It's all good. I don't graduate until next May, so I wouldn't be able to relocate right away, but I'd be willing to do it if I end up having a place at your company.