Here’s a second thread to discuss the aftermath of Obama’s joint session speech; the transcript is here: Remarks of President Barack Obama in an Address to a Joint Session of Congress (PDF).
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:03:48pm |
I’m in late and missed the speech. Oops.
Well, whatever Obama proposed I’m against it.
/kidding about that last.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:04:40pm |
I liked the speech, and I’m a very reserved fan of BO…he does have a knack tho…I see nothing here to complain about except that he should have made these proposals two years ago…but I try to stay in the present
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:05:39pm |
It was a good speech, but I don’t think the bill’s got any real chance of passage. Whether or not he can capitalize on that in the days and weeks to come is the big question.
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:05:44pm |
If Michelle is giving a response speech somewhere, no one is broadcasting it. LOL
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:06:33pm |
If the bills can’t/won’t pass it isn’t because he didn’t do a great job of presenting it. I was impressed. Well done.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:07:23pm |
As for Obama’s “independent fund to attract private dollars and issue loans”, that I really am against. That sort of funding should not be a governmental affair. Despite what he says, it would be far too vulnerable to congressional manipulation, and would make who gets loans a political decision, rather than the fanancial matter it is now.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:08:01pm |
Hey…there’s still time to vote in my poll…
Are LGF Polls Scientific?
15/45.5% Yes. Just ask Galileo…though he was outvoted for a time.
18/54.5% No. They were intelligently designed by Charles to NOT be so.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:08:31pm |
I agree with Steve. Although, really, I think he got as much out of that Stimulus bill he could considering that he barely got the 60 votes he needed in the Senate.
If he had pushed for $1.5 trillion it needed, it would not have passed.
But he definitely had his mojo working tonight. That was 30 minutes of In Your Face speechifying.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:08:41pm |
re: #8 darthstar
Hey…there’s still time to vote in my poll…
Are LGF Polls Scientific?
15/45.5% Yes. Just ask Galileo…though he was outvoted for a time.
18/54.5% No. They were intelligently designed by Charles to NOT be so.[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
the epitome of attention whore
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darthstar Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:09:04pm |
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:09:13pm |
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:09:19pm |
re: #7 Dark_Falcon
As for Obama’s “independent fund to attract private dollars and issue loans”, that I really am against. That sort of funding should not be a governmental affair. Despite what he says, it would be far too vulnerable to congressional manipulation, and would make who gets loans a political decision, rather than the fanancial matter it is now.
I think it is an excellent idea to cut loose some of that hoarded corporate/”job creator” cash to be used for private contractors to build public infrastructure.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:09:51pm |
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:10:24pm |
re: #7 Dark_Falcon
…and would make who gets loans a political decision, rather than the fanancial matter it is now.
Is that a new word to describe financial policy from fanatics? :)
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:11:31pm |
re: #15 publicityStunted
Is that a new word to describe financial policy from fanatics? :)
No, that’s “the error got noticed too late for me to use the pencil”.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:12:18pm |
re: #13 allegro
I think it is an excellent idea to cut loose some of that hoarded corporate/”job creator” cash to be used for private contractors to build public infrastructure.
Right now, the Fed is *paying* the banks to park it’s cash in the Fed. Make them *pay* for the pleasure of parking it there and it might loosen them up. Just a thought.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:14:10pm |
re: #2 albusteve
I liked the speech, and I’m a very reserved fan of BO…he does have a knack tho…I see nothing here to complain about except that he should have made these proposals two years ago…but I try to stay in the present
This speech reminded me of why I became an Obama supporter in the first place. It was aggressive, but still had a core message of bipartisanship. As someone (think it may have been laZardo?) pointed out the other day, progressives who whine about President Obama not being candidate Obama seem to forget that he ran on a platform of bipartisanship and working together, not one strictly of progressivism.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:14:40pm |
Remarks of President Barack Obama in an Address to a Joint Session of Congress
Obama Criticized For “Making Remarks” In Speech
used ‘anglo-saxon language’ in speech during time of day when children might have been watching
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Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:15:36pm |
The poll creator in the LGF Pages app now includes an expiration date/time, with a nifty popup date- and time-picker. When you set an expiration date, voting on the poll closes at that second.
Since the LGF server is located in the Central US time zone, you’ll need to do a simple adjustment based on where you are. For example, if you’re on the East Coast, subtract an hour; West Coast, add 2 hours.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:16:08pm |
(Reposted from the previous thread)
re: #296 Racer X
Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.
Actually, the Stimulus package worked, it just wasn’t big enough. Yes I’m a libertarian. But everyone seems to forget that 1/3 of the stimulus package was a tax cut, another third was money given directly to the states to cover *their* shortfall. and only 1/3 was used towards any sort of construction and actual stimulus spending.
Meanwhile you had the GDP crash at the end of 2008 into 2009 that put 4 million people out of work, and a real world reduction of the GDP by half a trillion dollars.
If anything the Stimulus stabilized the situation and prevented the economy from continuing it’s free fall. If you haven’t noticed, as the stimulus spending and QE2 is winding down, the economy is starting to break down again. Mind you, the break down isn’t as bad precisely because of the stimulus package, QE2 and TARP restored enough confidence to prevent a depression.
Meanwhile we’re still looking at a real specter of a deflationary spiral, we’re already mired in a liquidity trap, demand side recessions with low inflation is notoriously difficult to work out of.
We’re not even going to talk about how austerity isn’t working for Europe. but I will if you want me to. :)
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:16:08pm |
re: #13 allegro
I think it is an excellent idea to cut loose some of that hoarded corporate/”job creator” cash to be used for private contractors to build public infrastructure.
What it does is allow a major opportunity to further insert government controls into the financial sector. That’s a very bad idea. It would rapidly be politicized.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:18:01pm |
re: #21 bloodstar
(Reposted from the previous thread)
re: #296 Racer X
Actually, the Stimulus package worked, it just wasn’t big enough. Yes I’m a libertarian. But everyone seems to forget that 1/3 of the stimulus package was a tax cut, another third was money given directly to the states to cover *their* shortfall. and only 1/3 was used towards any sort of construction and actual stimulus spending.
Meanwhile you had the GDP crash at the end of 2008 into 2009 that put 4 million people out of work, and a real world reduction of the GDP by half a trillion dollars.
If anything the Stimulus stabilized the situation and prevented the economy from continuing it’s free fall. If you haven’t noticed, as the stimulus spending and QE2 is winding down, the economy is starting to break down again. Mind you, the break down isn’t as bad precisely because of the stimulus package, QE2 and TARP restored enough confidence to prevent a depression.
Meanwhile we’re still looking at a real specter of a deflationary spiral, we’re already mired in a liquidity trap, demand side recessions with low inflation is notoriously difficult to work out of.
We’re not even going to talk about how austerity isn’t working for Europe. but I will if you want me to. :)
^— This!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:18:09pm |
re: #4 allegro
If Michelle is giving a response speech somewhere, no one is broadcasting it. LOL
Yeah—she apparently has the House studio, but I can’t find her on airtime anywhere. Guess the Saints/Packers can go ahead and play.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:19:47pm |
re: #24 Decatur Deb
Yeah—she apparently has the House studio, but I can’t find her on airtime anywhere. Guess the Saints/Packers can go ahead and play.
8:30
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:21:48pm |
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:21:54pm |
As I await the start of football season, here’s a Rolling Stones gem for everyone (especially steve) to enjoy.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:23:35pm |
Is it a bad thing that I have become so discouraged that I do not know what to believe anymore? I have been hoping for change, and well, things have changed, but I guess I was hoping they would change for the better.
His speeches are like a shot of liquor to me- they go to my head, but the feeling doesn’t last long… I need a job, I want to keep my house…nothing about the speech made me think that anything will ever reach anyone like me.
Michele
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:26:20pm |
re: #28 MicheleR
Is it a bad thing that I have become so discouraged that I do not know what to believe anymore? I have been hoping for change, and well, things have changed, but I guess I was hoping they would change for the better.
His speeches are like a shot of liquor to me- they go to my head, but the feeling doesn’t last long… I need a job, I want to keep my house…nothing about the speech made me think that anything will ever reach anyone like me.
Michele
What do you think needs to be done for something to get to someone like you?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:28:44pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:30:36pm |
re: #18 Atlas Fails
This speech reminded me of why I became an Obama supporter in the first place. It was aggressive, but still had a core message of bipartisanship. As someone (think it may have been laZardo?) pointed out the other day, progressives who whine about President Obama not being candidate Obama seem to forget that he ran on a platform of bipartisanship and working together, not one strictly of progressivism.
I am so sick of that stupid whine. It’s like nobody paid attention during the campaign, cripes.
Besides, since when have so-called “progressive” politics ever depended on presidents. Annoying.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:31:05pm |
re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It was a good speech, but I don’t think the bill’s got any real chance of passage. Whether or not he can capitalize on that in the days and weeks to come is the big question.
I don’t think so either. It will never get out of the House. Unless of course it’s used as a bargaining chip.
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:31:21pm |
re: #22 Dark_Falcon
What it does is allow a major opportunity to further insert government controls into the financial sector. That’s a very bad idea. It would rapidly be politicized.
Of course. The financial sector has done such a great job for us being not politicized like it is.
//please
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:31:21pm |
Kid Rock started off the season with Born Free.. I think he is awesome…The NFL always ends the season with somebody lame playing halftime…What old musician is going to play this year?
How about the Moody Blues?
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:31:57pm |
re: #28 MicheleR
Is it a bad thing that I have become so discouraged that I do not know what to believe anymore? I have been hoping for change, and well, things have changed, but I guess I was hoping they would change for the better.
His speeches are like a shot of liquor to me- they go to my head, but the feeling doesn’t last long… I need a job, I want to keep my house…nothing about the speech made me think that anything will ever reach anyone like me.
Michele
Well, I certainly understand your *concerns*. Quick question. Who do you think has the better plan, the President, who wants to refinance your mortgage to 4% to help you keep your home and extend your unemployment benefits, or the R’s who want to do nothing of the kind?
That’s an easy yes/no question.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:32:47pm |
Something I can understand I guess. When the talk is about SS tax breaks, well if you have no job, where is the help? Employers getting breaks I guess makes sense, but what I was hoping to hear was more about what kinds of jobs he was thinking about-
I can’t work in construction, I have no skills in it, but I guess if he had been a bit more specific, I could see if there was maybe a chance.
I know I sound stupid compared to the more well informed here. I am just about to lose it all, and well, maybe I put too much hope in tonight, that I would find something in it to think things would change.
Michele
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:32:54pm |
/ language pedant on
i like it that obama stayed away from latinisms such as ‘infrastructure’ and used the word ‘job’ quite a bit, which was described on the teevee machine as ‘anglo-saxon’. Looking into the origin of this short, sweet, and to the point word, it seems that it is first attested in the 1550s as “jobbe of worke”, i.e. a piece of work, and is of obscure origins, altho perhaps derived from ‘gobbe’, as in lump of stuff. ‘Gob’, it turns out, seems to be from the old french for ‘mouthful’, which we still use as in the expression “gob-stopper’, and perhaps ultimately from gaulish celtic
/ pedant off
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:32:59pm |
re: #34 HoosierHoops
Kid Rock started off the season with Born Free.. I think he is awesome…The NFL always ends the season with somebody lame playing halftime…What old musician is going to play this year?
How about the Moody Blues?
here we go bro….2010
this is what I wait for all year
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:33:10pm |
re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
‘Cause you have friends.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:33:14pm |
Developing: ‘Massive’ Power Outage In San Diego, Points East
“A massive power outage struck Southern California at about 3:38 PM [local time], affecting millions of people in the region,” our colleagues at KPBS report. “There are numerous reports of people stuck in elevators, the loss of traffic signals throughout the region and serious confusion.”
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:33:37pm |
re: #28 MicheleR
Is it a bad thing that I have become so discouraged that I do not know what to believe anymore? I have been hoping for change, and well, things have changed, but I guess I was hoping they would change for the better.
His speeches are like a shot of liquor to me- they go to my head, but the feeling doesn’t last long… I need a job, I want to keep my house…nothing about the speech made me think that anything will ever reach anyone like me.
Michele
A lot of people hear you.
President Obama is not the strongest president we have ever had. He doesn’t have a lot of back up from his own party and the GOP pointedly takes the exact opposite stand to everything he does and prevents anything from getting done.
Obama usually means well - even for all his faults, but at this point, even a latter day Washington in his position could do very little in terms of domestic policy - which is the domain of congress given how it controls the budget.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:33:39pm |
re: #32 Gus 802
I don’t think so either. It will never get out of the House. Unless of course it’s used as a bargaining chip.
The way he has it structured, its DOA. There is zero willingness among Republicans to fund more stimulus.
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BishopX Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:34:02pm |
re: #22 Dark_Falcon
I think the devil is in the details here. The federal government can and has set up independent public-private institutions which were insulated from congressional pressure. The Federal Reserve is a good example of this. The government has also set up poorly managed public-private institutions which are open to congressional meddling. Fannie, Freddy and USPS are good examples of this.
The federal government has a long history of identifying critical infrastructure projects and supporting them. The transcontinental railroad, The Hoover Dam, The Interstate Highway system, Land-Grant colleges, interoperable telephone infrastructure and the internet are all good examples of federal action at work.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:34:06pm |
re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ugh… thought that was the original video.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:34:18pm |
re: #35 austin_blue
Well, I certainly understand your *concerns*. Quick question. Who do you think has the better plan, the President, who wants to refinance your mortgage to 4% to help you keep your home and extend your unemployment benefits, or the R’s who want to do nothing of the kind?
That’s an easy yes/no question.
I did not qualify for unemployment, and it is hard to refinance when you have no job. But if you want a quick yes or no- I think it is a no brainer.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:34:24pm |
re: #36 MicheleR
Ohhh and welcome… pardon my rudeness in not saying that earlier.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:34:43pm |
re: #34 HoosierHoops
Kid Rock started off the season with Born Free.. I think he is awesome…The NFL always ends the season with somebody lame playing halftime…What old musician is going to play this year?
How about the Moody Blues?
In your wildest dreams.
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:34:59pm |
re: #36 MicheleR
Something I can understand I guess. When the talk is about SS tax breaks, well if you have no job, where is the help? Employers getting breaks I guess makes sense, but what I was hoping to hear was more about what kinds of jobs he was thinking about-
I can’t work in construction, I have no skills in it, but I guess if he had been a bit more specific, I could see if there was maybe a chance.I know I sound stupid compared to the more well informed here. I am just about to lose it all, and well, maybe I put too much hope in tonight, that I would find something in it to think things would change.
Michele
I don’t know what your skills are but construction companies need administrative employees as well as those who wield hammers. Those construction workers with money in their pockets buy products that someone has to sell so those companies will need to hire to meet the demand. Etc.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:35:39pm |
Getting a very strong vibe of ‘concern troll’.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:36:01pm |
re: #36 MicheleR
Something I can understand I guess. When the talk is about SS tax breaks, well if you have no job, where is the help? Employers getting breaks I guess makes sense, but what I was hoping to hear was more about what kinds of jobs he was thinking about-
I can’t work in construction, I have no skills in it, but I guess if he had been a bit more specific, I could see if there was maybe a chance.I know I sound stupid compared to the more well informed here. I am just about to lose it all, and well, maybe I put too much hope in tonight, that I would find something in it to think things would change.
Michele
What *can* you do? Office work for a construction company that is hiring? Payroll? Spreadsheets? Teach kids? Do you have a real estate license? What did you do before you lost your job?
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:36:11pm |
re: #34 HoosierHoops
Kid Rock started off the season with Born Free.. I think he is awesome…The NFL always ends the season with somebody lame playing halftime…What old musician is going to play this year?
How about the Moody Blues?
I don’t know, I rather liked the Stones and the Who in their halftime gigs. I’m not a huge Springsteen fan, but I confess I’ll take him over Kid Rock any day. KR definitely has some talent and seems like a good guy, but I’ve never much cared for his songs. Regardless, none of them could be as bad as the Black Eyed Peas. What a nightmare; the Steelers lost and we were subjected that monstrosity of a halftime show.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:37:51pm |
re: #49 Charles
Getting a very strong vibe of ‘concern troll’.
Yup. Me too. If fits the script too well.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:38:26pm |
I will be honest- I was not a supporter of him in the election. But when he was elected, I was willing to give him a chance.
I know that it is not his fault, that the government runs on shared duties. But I am back in school, so I am hoping that whatever jobs are created they get to people who need them.
Michele
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:38:33pm |
re: #38 albusteve
here we go bro…2010
this is what I wait for all year
Here you go..An American Idol singing the anthem..
Do not slit your wrists!
/
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:39:26pm |
re: #51 Atlas Fails
I don’t know, I rather liked the Stones and the Who in their halftime gigs. I’m not a huge Springsteen fan, but I confess I’ll take him over Kid Rock any day. KR definitely has some talent and seems like a good guy, but I’ve never much cared for his songs. Regardless, none of them could be as bad as the Black Eyed Peas. What a nightmare; the Steelers lost and we were subjected that monstrosity of a halftime show.
Quite Concur.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:39:37pm |
So football fans like Kid Rock and Maroon 5 huh? Ugh.
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:39:58pm |
re: #54 HoosierHoops
Here you go..An American Idol singing the anthem..
Do not slit your wrists!
/
I’m watching the Phillies!
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:40:06pm |
re: #45 MicheleR
I did not qualify for unemployment, and it is hard to refinance when you have no job. But if you want a quick yes or no- I think it is a no brainer.
Heh. That’s what I thought. Unless given info to the contrary, I dub thee The First Concern Troll of the evening!
Thanks for playing! Do we have some lovely parting gifts for MicheleR, Johnny?
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:40:28pm |
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:42:12pm |
Thank you for the welcomes. I guess I should introduce myself-
Politically all over the map- voted McCain because he seemed more experienced. Also voted for Clinton…both times…
Like Palin until she lost her mind(sorry if that offends you, I really think she’s lost it)
Packer fan, was an adjunct professor, but budget cuts meant I had fewer classes, then none.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:42:21pm |
re: #33 allegro
Of course. The financial sector has done such a great job for us being not politicized like it is.
//please
Srsly.
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:42:42pm |
re: #57 recusancy
So football fans like Kid Rock and Maroon 5 huh? Ugh.
I don’t think football fans care too much one way or the other. The WIVES of football fans are another thing.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:42:54pm |
re: #64 MicheleR
Thank you for the welcomes. I guess I should introduce myself-
Politically all over the map- voted McCain because he seemed more experienced. Also voted for Clinton…both times…
Like Palin until she lost her mind(sorry if that offends you, I really think she’s lost it)
Packer fan, was an adjunct professor, but budget cuts meant I had fewer classes, then none.
I don’t think Palin lost her mind, that would have required her to have found it in the first place…
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:42:56pm |
OK, I need to go to dinner now. I’ll back later to talk about this plan with anyone who wishes to do so. Oh, and if a troll gets clubbed, put it on ice. I’ll grill it when I return.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:43:10pm |
It’s nice when you’ve been around here long enough to pick up on it on the first post. DF! Fire up the grill, bubba!
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:43:36pm |
Ok, I have no idea what that comment means but ok-
The yes would be to understand more about what the president plans to do, period.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:44:04pm |
re: #64 MicheleR
Thank you for the welcomes. I guess I should introduce myself-
Politically all over the map- voted McCain because he seemed more experienced. Also voted for Clinton…both times…
Like Palin until she lost her mind(sorry if that offends you, I really think she’s lost it)
Packer fan, was an adjunct professor, but budget cuts meant I had fewer classes, then none.
Then I must proclaim you to be my enemy.
/Go Bears!
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:44:39pm |
re: #64 MicheleR
Thank you for the welcomes. I guess I should introduce myself-
Politically all over the map- voted McCain because he seemed more experienced. Also voted for Clinton…both times…
Like Palin until she lost her mind(sorry if that offends you, I really think she’s lost it)
Packer fan, was an adjunct professor, but budget cuts meant I had fewer classes, then none.
You must be devastated by Obama’s plan to increase funding to community colleges.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:44:48pm |
re: #66 SteveMcG
I don’t think football fans care too much one way or the other. The WIVES of football fans are another thing.
I think Maroon 5 is nothing more than a modern day glorified Disco Band
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:45:47pm |
re: #64 MicheleR
was an adjunct professor, but budget cuts meant I had fewer classes, then none.
Adjunct prof - 4/4 load, 2 different university systems, no office space at either, no tenure track. I’m not in it but have several friends who are.
What’s your discipline?
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:46:15pm |
re: #56 Dark_Falcon
Quite Concur.
The worst part is that there are some good modern singers/groups. In an attempt to be “hip” though, the NFL went with a group of black (rappers? singers? who knows?) whose songs are almost literally about nothing (so as not to offend the sensibilities of all the white people watching), and overlooked the fact that every song they’ve ever produced has relied heavily on auto-tune. And when I say “relied heavily on”, I mean “was almost completely composed of.” Unsurprisingly, they sucked live. Just hope they avoid Ke$ha this year.
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:46:28pm |
re: #70 MicheleR
Ok, I have no idea what that comment means but ok-
The yes would be to understand more about what the president plans to do, period.
It’s pretty easy to understand wht the President plans to do. Prime the demand pump. I swear to God I can’t figure out how anybody ever falls for that SUpply side crap. Reminds me of a Van Morrison song:
“I wake up in the morning and get my brief
And I stare out at the world in complete disbelief”
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:46:53pm |
re: #67 jamesfirecat
I don’t think Palin lost her mind, that would have required her to have found it in the first place…
She went hollywood. Not good for someone who makes a living in part railing against hollywood. /
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:47:39pm |
7-0 Green Bay. First opening drive TD against NO since ‘09.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:47:55pm |
re: #76 Atlas Fails
The worst part is that there are some good modern singers/groups. In an attempt to be “hip” though, the NFL went with a group of black (rappers? singers? who knows?) whose songs are almost literally about nothing (so as not to offend the sensibilities of all the white people watching), and overlooked the fact that every song they’ve ever produced has relied heavily on auto-tune. And when I say “relied heavily on”, I mean “was almost completely composed of.” Unsurprisingly, they sucked live. Just hope they avoid Ke$ha this year.
Black Eyed Peas composes for ringtones.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:48:37pm |
re: #79 austin_blue
7-0 Green Bay. First opening yard TD against NO since ‘09.
Looks like all the talk about Green Bay not having team workouts during the lockout could be much ado about nothing.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:48:57pm |
re: #72 austin_blue
You must be devastated by Obama’s plan to increase funding to community colleges.
re: #67 jamesfirecat
I don’t think Palin lost her mind, that would have required her to have found it in the first place…
Ok I admit, I really liked the different approach she took toward the start- I even saw her speak- she was someone I kind of identified with, public college graduate, not worldly (I didn’t get my passport until I was 32)
But I guess looking at who she “is” now, I don’t recognize her.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:49:12pm |
Obama’s plan is a rehash of what he’s been proposing for months. The GOP was willing to default on the debt and ignored warnings about the credit rating to do as little as possible. They didn’t accept Obama’s effort last month and they aren’t going to accept it now. There is no possibility of negotiations because there’s nothing Obama can give them to make them happy. Abolish Social Security? The EPA? Planned Parenthood? Public Education? The GOP is never going to allow any legislation to pass that might help the economy. End of story.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:49:17pm |
re: #71 Dark_Falcon
Then I must proclaim you to be my enemy.
/Go Bears!
Bears fan here, for family reasons.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:50:11pm |
re: #75 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Adjunct prof - 4/4 load, 2 different university systems, no office space at either, no tenure track. I’m not in it but have several friends who are.
What’s your discipline?
I have a B.A. and M.A. in…Sociology…go ahead, start laughing, but I really love it.
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thatthatisis Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:50:43pm |
I have only two points to make tonight -
1 Loved the President’s speech; and
2 J E T S Jets Jets Jets!
Thank you.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:50:53pm |
re: #82 MicheleR
re: #67 jamesfirecat
Ok I admit, I really liked the different approach she took toward the start- I even saw her speak- she was someone I kind of identified with, public college graduate, not worldly (I didn’t get my passport until I was 32)
But I guess looking at who she “is” now, I don’t recognize her.
She’s showbiz. The GOP created a monster, and got a lot more of what they bargained for. I do kind of enjoy what she does to them, though her politics have always been idiotic.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:50:54pm |
re: #73 HoosierHoops
I think Maroon 5 is nothing more than a modern day glorified Disco Band
those guys are awful, even for an industry designed pop band
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:51:21pm |
re: #82 MicheleR
re: #67 jamesfirecat
Ok I admit, I really liked the different approach she took toward the start- I even saw her speak- she was someone I kind of identified with, public college graduate, not worldly (I didn’t get my passport until I was 32)
But I guess looking at who she “is” now, I don’t recognize her.
Sweet! Quoted me and didn’t even respond. You’ve done this before, haven’t you? Well sidestepped! You might even be a worthy adversary.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:51:32pm |
About the community college comment- that would be sweet, was that part of tonight’s speech? Can’t believe I missed that…if so my apologies
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:51:43pm |
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:51:54pm |
re: #79 austin_blue
7-0 Green Bay. First opening yard TD against NO since ‘09.
I don’t think anybody at the baseball game noticed. Didn’t hear a thing. Wouldn’t happen that way in Philadelphia.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:52:32pm |
re: #89 austin_blue
no but I am sort of techno stupid, I will try to improve
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:52:53pm |
re: #85 MicheleR
I have a B.A. and M.A. in…Sociology…go ahead, start laughing, but I really love it.
Well, then you certainly have the chops to enter social work! Did you know that every kidney dialysis unit is required to have someone with your skills on staff?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:53:01pm |
re: #36 MicheleR
Something I can understand I guess. When the talk is about SS tax breaks, well if you have no job, where is the help? Employers getting breaks I guess makes sense, but what I was hoping to hear was more about what kinds of jobs he was thinking about-
I can’t work in construction, I have no skills in it, but I guess if he had been a bit more specific, I could see if there was maybe a chance.I know I sound stupid compared to the more well informed here. I am just about to lose it all, and well, maybe I put too much hope in tonight, that I would find something in it to think things would change.
Michele
No, I get it. When you’re drowning, it’s less comforting to hear about how they’re gonna implement a plan so fewer people drown. You still think you may be going down.
Good luck. I know the feeling.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:53:14pm |
re: #19 engineer dog
Remarks of President Barack Obama in an Address to a Joint Session of Congress
Obama Criticized For “Making Remarks” In Speech
used ‘anglo-saxon language’ in speech during time of day when children might have been watching
Prophetic! From FoxHateNation:
A look at some of Obama’s claims and how they compare with the facts:
OBAMA: “Everything in this bill will be paid for. Everything.”
THE FACTS: Obama did not spell out exactly how he would pay for the measures contained in his nearly $450 billion American Jobs Act, but said he would send his proposed specifics in a week to the new congressional supercommittee charged with finding budget savings.
OBAMA: “Everything in here is the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans, including many who sit here tonight.”
THE FACTS: Obama’s proposed cut in the Social Security payroll tax does seem likely to garner significant GOP support. But there are a lot of other proposals that already have generated stiff Republican opposition.
Somewhere, an idiot is nodding his head.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:54:27pm |
Wow, NO looks sluggish on both sides of the ball.
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:55:10pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:55:40pm |
re: #96 austin_blue
Well, then you certainly have the chops to enter social work! Did you know that every kidney dialysis unit is required to have someone with your skills on staff?
I see the jobs market is improving.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:56:11pm |
re: #96 austin_blue
I am sorry to have just laid out my opinions- I think I get the comments now. I apologize, I was reacting to the speech, and I sound like a pathetic fool whiner.
Again, I hope the ship rights itself, and I am sorry if I did not follow the proper steps.
My life situation will work out, and I am sorry for being too open without any context.
Michele
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:57:02pm |
re: #94 MicheleR
no but I am sort of techno stupid, I will try to improve
Oh, please do! The question is certainly still there to which you ought respond.
Oh, and your grammar is deteriorating, Not good for a college professor.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:58:21pm |
re: #103 austin_blue
Yes, I used to shake my head at some of my student papers, until I realized Microsoft word was making me lazy!
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:58:56pm |
re: #96 austin_blue
Well, then you certainly have the chops to enter social work! Did you know that every kidney dialysis unit is required to have someone with your skills on staff?
Social work…such a noble profession. Too bad you’d have to be either crazy or a saint to enter it.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:59:34pm |
re: #103 austin_blue
Oh, please do! The question is certainly still there to which you ought respond.
Oh, and your grammar is deteriorating, Not good for a college professor.
I was not a professor- I was an instructor. And my answer, I thought, was that it would be better to do something than nothing at all.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:59:50pm |
re: #85 MicheleR
I have a B.A. and M.A. in…Sociology…go ahead, start laughing, but I really love it.
Aw, why would I laugh! Nothing wrong with any degree, especially in humanities or social sciences.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:02:03pm |
CNN is mentioning an issue on terrorism.
What’s going on?
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:02:04pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:02:40pm |
re: #110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Aw, why would I laugh! Nothing wrong with any degree, especially in humanities or social sciences.
I would like to see them rework some humanities majors so as to give students some options for career paths beyond ‘grad school’ and ‘secretarial’. I was a history major, and, well…
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:02:41pm |
re: #112 ProLifeLiberal
CNN is mentioning an issue on terrorism.
What’s going on?
Report of a terrorist plot to interrupt 9/11 anniversary.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:08pm |
re: #102 MicheleR
Welcome…Stop saying you are sorry.. You are who you are here…
Just jump on in and say your piece..
Now..Two things are going to happen..
You will grow to be a valued lizard or people will think you are full of shit..
What have you got to lose?
Should have read my first posts… :)
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:12pm |
re: #112 ProLifeLiberal
CNN is mentioning an issue on terrorism.
What’s going on?
They aren’t elaborating?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:14pm |
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:34pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
I would like to see them rework some humanities majors so as to give students some options for career paths beyond ‘grad school’ and ‘secretarial’. I was a history major, and, well…
I majored in history, between majoring in math and chemistry. Never did decide what to study.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:40pm |
re: #115 SteveMcG
Did we disrupt the planning of the terror attack?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:45pm |
re: #107 recusancy
Not sure- I was following links about something, and stumbled on it. I am interested in the “battle” if you can call it that, in teaching things like evolution, and also in climate change- so I’m guessing it had to do with that.
I kept coming back because I enjoyed a lot of the things written about Michele Bachman- who, I can at the very least say, never appealed to me. Unlike Palin who I totally fell for
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:46pm |
re: #112 ProLifeLiberal
CNN is mentioning an issue on terrorism.
What’s going on?
Norah O’Donnell
@NorahODonnell Norah O’Donnell
1) A Federal source told CBS News that FBI and Intelligence authorities are currently tracking TWO distinct threat streams;
Norah O’Donnell
@NorahODonnell Norah O’Donnell
2) a car bombing threat in NYC and/or Washington DC. And a separate threat against bridges and tunnels in NYC
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:03:54pm |
re: #108 Atlas Fails
Social work…such a noble profession. Too bad you’d have to be either crazy or a saint to enter it.
Or have a benefactor.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:04:07pm |
re: #112 ProLifeLiberal
CNN is mentioning an issue on terrorism.
What’s going on?
Rumor has it that 2/3 bad guys have entered the US intent on detonating a truck bomb, most likely in DC/NYC on 9/11/11.
You know, reminiscing.
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BishopX Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:04:17pm |
re: #112 ProLifeLiberal
Some unconfirmed threat about an anniversary strike with a car or van bomb in NYC or DC. Which is stupid.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:04:35pm |
re: #117 recusancy
They aren’t elaborating?
The U.S. has received specific and credible intelligence showing al Qaeda militants in Pakistan may be preparing to carry out car bombings in Washington, D.C., and New York City, timed to coincide with the 10-year anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, a U.S. counterterrorism official said.
The U.S. received the intelligence about the possible attack within the past 48 hours. Officials said al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan were believed to be behind the alleged plot.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:04:42pm |
re: #116 HoosierHoops
You will grow to be a valued lizard or people will think you are full of shit..
Why not both?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:04:49pm |
re: #110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
you are a LOT more understanding than my brothers:)
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:04:56pm |
My spidey-sense is tingling something fierce.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:05:07pm |
These new kickoff rules are so dumb. They’re really going to kill teams like the Browns and Bears, whose return men are integral parts of their gameplans.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:06:25pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:06:31pm |
re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist
The U.S. has received specific and credible intelligence showing al Qaeda militants in Pakistan may be preparing to carry out car bombings in Washington, D.C., and New York City, timed to coincide with the 10-year anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, a U.S. counterterrorism official said.
The U.S. received the intelligence about the possible attack within the past 48 hours. Officials said al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan were believed to be behind the alleged plot.
Goddamn it. It’s always Pakistan.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:07:05pm |
re: #118 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
See a professor is usually one that is either on the tenure track or tenured. There are associate ones, but well, it is a path.
An instructor is different, and I think I would make a lot of professors mad if I said I was one:)
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:08:06pm |
re: #134 MicheleR
See a professor is usually one that is either on the tenure track or tenured. There are associate ones, but well, it is a path.
An instructor is different, and I think I would make a lot of professors mad if I said I was one:)
We won’t tell anyone. We CAN’T tell anyone. You’re anonymous here.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:08:26pm |
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:08:32pm |
re: #132 ProLifeLiberal
Goddamn it. It’s always Pakistan.
How much are we paying them to be our “ally”?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:08:55pm |
re: #116 HoosierHoops
Just feeling stupid at the moment. I will do my best to show I am being sincere. I realize my mistake.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:08:55pm |
re: #121 MicheleR
Not sure- I was following links about something, and stumbled on it. I am interested in the “battle” if you can call it that, in teaching things like evolution, and also in climate change- so I’m guessing it had to do with that.
I kept coming back because I enjoyed a lot of the things written about Michele Bachman- who, I can at the very least say, never appealed to me. Unlike Palin who I totally fell for
If you’re familiar with the place then why would you assume anybody would be offended by you saying something bad about Palin?
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:09:06pm |
re: #133 SteveMcG
Heh, not subtle enough. Or maybe I’m just turning into a cynic.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:09:55pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:09:59pm |
re: #140 CuriousLurker
What’s causing the spidey senses to go off?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:10:06pm |
re: #135 SteveMcG
It is really is hard to get tenure, one of the reasons I am not doing so by choice, a lot of years go into it, so I try to be respectful to those that earned it.
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:10:16pm |
re: #140 CuriousLurker
It just seems to be nibbling at the bait.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:10:25pm |
re: #132 ProLifeLiberal
Goddamn it. It’s always Pakistan.
It’s a convenient place to hang out. Mountain air. Large areas with no law enforcement to speak of.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:10:49pm |
re: #96 austin_blue
Well, then you certainly have the chops to enter social work! Did you know that every kidney dialysis unit is required to have someone with your skills on staff?
There are also a lot of community health centers that are looking foe social workers as well for case management and adding a wholistic approach to primary care for adults and children. The FQHC I work for has added Medicaid case management, talk therapy and group health care visits for smoking cessation, obesity, diabetes and depression. It’s been really good for a lot of our patients.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:11:07pm |
re: #141 CuriousLurker
Ah, right, that must be it!
Love the new icon, by the way. That’s just a hoot!
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Amory Blaine Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:11:15pm |
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:11:28pm |
re: #145 SanFranciscoZionist
It’s a convenient place to hang out. Mountain air. Large areas with no law enforcement to speak of.
You know it’s a bad place when even a dictator wouldn’t send his army up north.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:11:57pm |
re: #144 SteveMcG
It just seems to be nibbling at the bait.
Hey now, don’t be so cynical! Then again, I gave ConservativeMe the benefit of the doubt…
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:12:26pm |
re: #139 recusancy
Not sure, actually, just try to make it a habit to not assume that everyone believes what I do- I really don’t try to offend anyone.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:12:42pm |
Gotta say, if I was al-Qaeda, I’d want to do SOMETHING for the occasion.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:12:52pm |
re: #121 MicheleR
Not sure- I was following links about something, and stumbled on it. I am interested in the “battle” if you can call it that, in teaching things like evolution, and also in climate change- so I’m guessing it had to do with that.
I kept coming back because I enjoyed a lot of the things written about Michele Bachman- who, I can at the very least say, never appealed to me. Unlike Palin who I totally fell for
Don’t feel too bad. I used to like John Edwards. Although I was an Obama supporter since he announced in 2007.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:13:21pm |
re: #149 SteveMcG
You know it’s a bad place when even a dictator wouldn’t send his army up north.
A dictator wants to stay a dictator.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:13:28pm |
re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist
Maybe they’re the ones messing with the electricity.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:13:34pm |
re: #147 austin_blue
Love the new icon, by the way. That’s just a hoot!
Thanks.I figured I might as well go ahead and play the part to the hilt. ;)
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:14:17pm |
TS Maria survived (barely) her 48 hour run-in with shear and a high pressure that forced her forward speed to 20+ mph.
She could be a problem.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:14:22pm |
re: #146 moderatelyradicalliberal
There are also a lot of community health centers that are looking foe social workers as well for case management and adding a wholistic approach to primary care for adults and children. The FQHC I work for has added Medicaid case management, talk therapy and group health care visits for smoking cessation, obesity, diabetes and depression. It’s been really good for a lot of our patients.
Yeah but those are Gotdamm Gubmint jobs!
Helpin’ poor people? What’s the use? Better they die young.
(I will not even justify that with sarc tags.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:14:36pm |
re: #141 CuriousLurker
Avatar ding! That’s hysterical!
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:15:25pm |
Sigh, is there a test I could take to try to make up for my rather rough start here?
I am who I am, and well, if there is a test, please just come right out and give it to me. I don’t know the secret handshake, the codeword, I saw that I coulde register and I did.
And I am a she, not an it. And I used my real name.
Michele
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:15:29pm |
re: #138 MicheleR
Just feeling stupid at the moment. I will do my best to show I am being sincere. I realize my mistake.
Welcome…I went to College in California…Where did you get your Masters?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:16:16pm |
re: #160 MicheleR
Sigh, is there a test I could take to try to make up for my rather rough start here?
I am who I am, and well, if there is a test, please just come right out and give it to me. I don’t know the secret handshake, the codeword, I saw that I coulde register and I did.
And I am a she, not an it. And I used my real name.
Michele
Could. not coulde
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:16:28pm |
re: #148 Amory Blaine
They got creme for that.
Maybe it’s just the kimchi ramen I’m eating right now that’s making me tingle. Spicy, spicy, spicy. I don’t think there’s a cream for that. ;)
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:17:02pm |
re: #161 HoosierHoops
UW-Milwaukee- Green Bay born so Packer fan by birth
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:17:23pm |
re: #160 MicheleR
Sigh, is there a test I could take to try to make up for my rather rough start here?
I am who I am, and well, if there is a test, please just come right out and give it to me. I don’t know the secret handshake, the codeword, I saw that I coulde register and I did.
And I am a she, not an it. And I used my real name.
Michele
I don’t think you need to start over. I’m one of the newer posters. I just jumped right in. I really don’t think you rubbed anyone the wrong way. No need for apologies. I’m a she too, by the way.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:17:41pm |
re: #160 MicheleR
Sigh, is there a test I could take to try to make up for my rather rough start here?
I am who I am, and well, if there is a test, please just come right out and give it to me. I don’t know the secret handshake, the codeword, I saw that I coulde register and I did.
And I am a she, not an it. And I used my real name.
Michele
Just stay on the sight and be yourself and post when you’ve got something to say.
If you just got off to a rough start and it’s just that it’ll fade in time (I’ve gotten shellacked myself a few times and now I’ve got a karma ratio better than two per post!) and you’ll be a viewed as a regular lizard.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:18:11pm |
re: #160 MicheleR
Sigh, is there a test I could take to try to make up for my rather rough start here?
I am who I am, and well, if there is a test, please just come right out and give it to me. I don’t know the secret handshake, the codeword, I saw that I coulde register and I did.
And I am a she, not an it. And I used my real name.
Michele
Not really, all you have to do is ride it out and demonstrate that you’re a real person who really wants to hang out here. If you do that, in a couple of weeks we’ll have forgotten we were ever suspicious.
Show up, post, chat with people, give an opinion.
It’s a tough room, I admit. We’ve had a number of very strange people come through here over the years. But people do soften up. Don’t let it rile you.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:18:21pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:19:09pm |
re: #166 jamesfirecat
Just stay on the sight and be yourself and post when you’ve got something to say.
If you just got off to a rough start and it’s just that it’ll fade in time (I’ve gotten shellacked myself a few times and now I’ve got a karma ratio better than two per post!) and you’ll be a viewed as a regular lizard.
Yeah, when James showed up, he got stomped on a lot. He stuck around. Now we can’t imagine the place without him.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:20:21pm |
re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, well that I can do. I guess I am guilty of a kneejerk pity party that I decided to invite you all to…if that makes any sense
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:20:46pm |
re: #160 MicheleR
Sigh, is there a test I could take to try to make up for my rather rough start here?
I am who I am, and well, if there is a test, please just come right out and give it to me. I don’t know the secret handshake, the codeword, I saw that I coulde register and I did.
And I am a she, not an it. And I used my real name.
Michele
All right, you caught us whispering about you.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:21:19pm |
re: #164 MicheleR
UW-Milwaukee- Green Bay born so Packer fan by birth
Cool…Pops family is from there.. I have a fishing Cabin on Lake Tomahawk and try to get there once a year…
Don’t worry about a rough start…Mine was much worse..Just be yourself and don’t worry about it..
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:21:29pm |
re: #163 CuriousLurker
Maybe it’s just the kimchi ramen I’m eating right now that’s making me tingle. Spicy, spicy, spicy. I don’t think there’s a cream for that. ;)
Occasionally there is a softball that is lobbed out there to which I cannot, in good conscience, knock out of the park, especially when the poster is a respected female member of this Board.
Sincerely,
Barnacle Bill the Sailor
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:21:40pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:21:50pm |
I took a picture of a cloud with my phone today that was shaped like a penis and texted it around. I thought that it might just be me; but everyone got it immediately. So, it really did look like a giant penis.
Just thought I’d share.
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labman57 Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:22:17pm |
Expect Congressional Republicans to treat Obama’s legislative plan in the manner of an almond-hating child who is given a bowl of Rocky Road ice cream. They try to spit out the components that conflict with their highly dogmatic political view and devour the parts that they find palatable.
But they also will do whatever it takes to ensure that the economy does not dramatically improve and unemployment stays high — to do otherwise would violate their solemn oath that the number one priority of the GOP is to undermine the welfare and security of the nation while Obama is in the White House.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:22:33pm |
re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What was a penis doing with your phone?
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:22:33pm |
re: #169 MicheleR
21-7 Packers
Jennings is red hot…a Kalamazoo homey, WMU player…my turf and alma mater…
Jennings and Jeter…not bad
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:22:44pm |
ot-A good friend of mine lost her baby and nearly died in labor this morning. Very stressful time.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:23:10pm |
re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I took a picture of a gigantic cloud today that was shaped like a penis with my phone and texted it around. I thought that it might just be me; but everyone got it immediately. So, it really did look like a giant penis.
Just thought I’d share.
Without posting the phallic vapor?!?!?!? Good God man, share!
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:23:16pm |
re: #174 austin_blue
Occasionally there is a softball that is lobbed out there to which I cannot, in good conscience, knock out of the park, especially when the poster is a respected female member of this Board.
Sincerely,
Barnacle Bill the Sailor
See? There are still some really smart folks in Texas! ;o)
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:23:21pm |
re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I took a picture of a gigantic cloud today that was shaped like a penis with my phone and texted it around. I thought that it might just be me; but everyone got it immediately. So, it really did look like a giant penis.
Just thought I’d share.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:23:28pm |
Hey, it took me a bit…but the sociology finally kicked in…Looking back over the comments I am assuming the charge against me is “concern troll”
I am a geek, I googled it
I plead not guilty, and will do my best to clear my name…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:24:05pm |
re: #177 labman57
Dammit. I have some butter pecan ice cream in the freezer. Wasn’t going to eat any tonight.
Now? I guess I am.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:24:10pm |
re: #178 jaunte
What was a penis doing with your phone?
Hopefully, nothing to do with Curious Lurker’s cream…..
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:25:11pm |
re: #180 Atlas Fails
I am very sorry, and send healing thoughts through you for her.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:25:20pm |
re: #185 jaunte
I hope she’s ok.
Thanks. I wasn’t sure I wanted to talk about it on the internet, but since everything’s anonymous, I decided I could use the outlet.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:25:25pm |
re: #180 Atlas Fails
ot-A good friend of mine lost her baby and nearly died in labor this morning. Very stressful time.
{{Atlas Fails}} Sorry to hear that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:26:40pm |
re: #183 SteveMcG
I quoted that scene today to my son while we were talking about it.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:27:41pm |
Did the crazy lady give her rebuttal? Did I miss it?
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:27:43pm |
re: #184 MicheleR
Hey, it took me a bit…but the sociology finally kicked in…Looking back over the comments I am assuming the charge against me is “concern troll”
I am a geek, I googled it
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]
I plead not guilty, and will do my best to clear my name…
geek, google - good
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:28:33pm |
re: #188 MicheleR
I am very sorry, and send healing thoughts through you for her.
Thank you, but please save all your thoughts and prayers for her and her family. I don’t need them.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:30:08pm |
re: #197 Atlas Fails
They are for her- but as I have no way to convey them- I am doing it through you.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:31:29pm |
re: #182 CuriousLurker
See? There are still some really smart folks in Texas! ;o)
Yup. The ‘04 rocks.
We’re all here ‘cause we aren’t all there.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:31:53pm |
re: #171 MicheleR
If you have a maters, you have a much better chance of finding work than the average out-of-work person, or even someone with a bachelor’s. So you’ve got that going for you.
On the other hand, your writing style is a little rough and ready for a sociology professor.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:33:05pm |
re: #194 Killgore Trout
I’m working on my defense…but it is not going to be a minifesto, just going to try to be a worthy poster.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:33:15pm |
urk
a little pain from the elective surgery i had today so i think i will bite someone
oh st vicodin kick in please
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:33:48pm |
re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist
Not really, all you have to do is ride it out and demonstrate that you’re a real person who really wants to hang out here. If you do that, in a couple of weeks we’ll have forgotten we were ever suspicious.
Show up, post, chat with people, give an opinion.
It’s a tough room, I admit. We’ve had a number of very strange people come through here over the years. But people do soften up. Don’t let it rile you.
Sociology is to social work as uranium is to urology.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:34:03pm |
re: #203 Obdicut
Is that a nice way of saying I’m slacking in polished prose? :)
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:34:05pm |
re: #204 MicheleR
I’m working on my defense…but it is not going to be a minifesto, just going to try to be a worthy poster.
Remember, less is more, and better is the enemy of good.
3-1 BTW:)
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:34:42pm |
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:35:13pm |
No response from the Fail merchants of WND or AtlasShrugs to the Obama speech. A good sign.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:35:21pm |
re: #204 MicheleR
I’m working on my defense…but it is not going to be a minifesto, just going to try to be a worthy poster.
Good luck. I was wondering what happened to Bachmann’s rebuttal of Obama’s speech.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:35:35pm |
re: #180 Atlas Fails
ot-A good friend of mine lost her baby and nearly died in labor this morning. Very stressful time.
Hugs to you and yours. Awful result for all involved. Sigh. Being human isn’t easy.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:35:37pm |
re: #206 Decatur Deb
True, but there is a common thread at the core. Social workers, if I remember correctly need a heck of a lot more specific education than I have, because they, if I remember correctly, are they not licensed by states?
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:35:44pm |
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:36:06pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I was wondering what happened to Bachmann’s rebuttal of Obama’s speech.
not much interest it seems
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:37:04pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I was wondering what happened to Bachmann’s rebuttal of Obama’s speech.
I think somebody did her a favor and buried her - IT!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:38:05pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I was wondering what happened to Bachmann’s rebuttal of Obama’s speech.
Not showing up on our C-SPAN.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:38:17pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought you were talking about me the crazy lady. My mistake
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:38:17pm |
re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I took a picture of a cloud with my phone today that was shaped like a penis and texted it around. I thought that it might just be me; but everyone got it immediately. So, it really did look like a giant penis.
Just thought I’d share.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:38:48pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I was wondering what happened to Bachmann’s rebuttal of Obama’s speech.
Looks like from her twitter feed that she’s doing it on Fox News:
TeamBachmann Michele Bachmann
Don’t miss #Michele tonight as she goes #OnTheRecord with @GretaWire to discuss the President’s #jobs plan.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:38:50pm |
re: #134 MicheleR
See a professor is usually one that is either on the tenure track or tenured. There are associate ones, but well, it is a path.
An instructor is different, and I think I would make a lot of professors mad if I said I was one:)
Associate prof was your term, so I was just going on that.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:39:00pm |
re: #213 MicheleR
True, but there is a common thread at the core. Social workers, if I remember correctly need a heck of a lot more specific education than I have, because they, if I remember correctly, are they not licensed by states?
mmm..No.. I had a roomate once that was a social worker for the State of California..If I recall he was hired by the state but not licensed…I could be wrong..
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:39:10pm |
re: #216 MicheleR
nooo
5-1. All with two outs. The umps iced the Brewers’ pitcher by reviewing a home run/double call. Since then, double, triple, single, double.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:39:42pm |
re: #207 MicheleR
Is that a nice way of saying I’m slacking in polished prose? :)
It’s not a very nice way of saying it, no. But yeah, your grammar is pretty off— that reply to me being a good example.
Anyway, the jobs bill includes aid to states for education, and I assume some of that is higher education. So you may be adjunct-professoring again.
And that’s what you wanted, right? To hear Obama’s job plan had something relevant to you?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:39:45pm |
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:39:52pm |
re: #121 MicheleR
Not sure- I was following links about something, and stumbled on it. I am interested in the “battle” if you can call it that, in teaching things like evolution, and also in climate change- so I’m guessing it had to do with that.
I kept coming back because I enjoyed a lot of the things written about Michele Bachman- who, I can at the very least say, never appealed to me. Unlike Palin who I totally fell for
Welcome, Michele. So, I’m curious—what do you think about teaching evolution in schools and about climate change? And what changed your mind about Palin, if it did indeed change?
Those aren’t gotcha questions, I’m just curious to know what your positions are since you said those things are what drew you here.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:39:53pm |
re: #209 recusancy
From your link
“The plan, taken as a whole, attempts to include every single theory of how to address the jobs crisis. If you believe we need more direct spending, you’ve got the infrastructure component. More tax cuts? The plan has $250 billion in tax cuts. More help for the unemployed? Yep. More deficit reduction? Next week, the White House will release a package that offsets this plan and reduces the deficit by more than $1.5 trillion on top of that.”
Isn’t this a good thing?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:40:34pm |
re: #222 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I thought I said adjunct- my mistake
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:41:04pm |
re: #230 albusteve
They’re gonna score 70 points between them. Where in the heck are the defenses?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:41:08pm |
re: #165 moderatelyradicalliberal
I don’t think you need to start over. I’m one of the newer posters. I just jumped right in. I really don’t think you rubbed anyone the wrong way. No need for apologies. I’m a she too, by the way.
I was a he, now I’m an it.
BTW, the tentacles are coming in quite handy.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:41:08pm |
re: #228 MicheleR
From your link
“The plan, taken as a whole, attempts to include every single theory of how to address the jobs crisis. If you believe we need more direct spending, you’ve got the infrastructure component. More tax cuts? The plan has $250 billion in tax cuts. More help for the unemployed? Yep. More deficit reduction? Next week, the White House will release a package that offsets this plan and reduces the deficit by more than $1.5 trillion on top of that.”
Isn’t this a good thing?
Yes.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:42:06pm |
re: #228 MicheleR
From your link
“The plan, taken as a whole, attempts to include every single theory of how to address the jobs crisis. If you believe we need more direct spending, you’ve got the infrastructure component. More tax cuts? The plan has $250 billion in tax cuts. More help for the unemployed? Yep. More deficit reduction? Next week, the White House will release a package that offsets this plan and reduces the deficit by more than $1.5 trillion on top of that.”
Isn’t this a good thing?
I ask because the tone of the link makes it seem like a weakness…
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:42:27pm |
re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They’re gonna score 70 points between them. Where in the heck are the defenses?
They looked tired so they got told to take the game off.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:42:27pm |
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:42:27pm |
re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They’re gonna score 70 points between them. Where in the heck are the defenses?
They were saying this would be a high scoring game..Wowsa!
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:42:40pm |
re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They’re gonna score 70 points between them. Where in the heck are the defenses?
back in camp…defenses are hard to teach, difficult to grasp and damn near impossible to implement…remember the strike?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:42:55pm |
re: #221 jaunte
Looks like from her twitter feed that she’s doing it on Fox News:
Fuck me running. She was just plugging her Fox appearance. Nicely played.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:43:01pm |
re: #170 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, when James showed up, he got stomped on a lot. He stuck around. Now we can’t imagine the place without him.
We can’t?
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darthstar Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:43:25pm |
21-17 in the second? Did they remove the defense for 2011?
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:43:43pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:43:51pm |
re: #221 jaunte
Looks like from her twitter feed that she’s doing it on Fox News:
Fopx News quotes it:
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:43:54pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:44:18pm |
re: #231 MicheleR
I thought I said adjunct- my mistake
Did I say “associate”? That was my error, sorry.
But yeah, adjunct professors are in a different boat than instructors, tmk, though it depends on the college/u.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:44:25pm |
re: #236 MicheleR
I ask because the tone of the link makes it seem like a weakness…
Not really, no. It’s pretty tone neutral, more analyzing what people have to respond to than actually critiquing the ideas.
By the way, when you use ellipses, putting spaces in between them is, well, pointless. There’s really no reason to deviate from standard orthography, and it can be kind of irritating. Satt already uses up everyone’s commas.
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:44:29pm |
re: #184 MicheleR
Hey, it took me a bit…but the sociology finally kicked in…Looking back over the comments I am assuming the charge against me is “concern troll”
I am a geek, I googled it
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]
I plead not guilty, and will do my best to clear my name…
Your perceived naivite kicked off every alarm bell amongst the Lizards, including the Pope/Emporer. We have seen this *so* many times before. Watch your ass, please. Be consistent on how you post. Use capitals and correct punctuation. The variety of styles was a big hmmm… If you are what you are, we will be happy to accept you as a colleague. If you aren’t what you appear to be, you will be dead meat.
Just sayin’.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:44:37pm |
And Deion Sanders is running around as a fairy now too… The NFL has definitely changed.
/
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:44:47pm |
re: #236 MicheleR
I ask because the tone of the link makes it seem like a weakness…
I don’t think it does.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:44:47pm |
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:45:10pm |
re: #248 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
For sure- and I have done enough applying that the differences between private and public colleges.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:46:40pm |
re: #250 Obdicut
Not really, no. It’s pretty tone neutral, more analyzing what people have to respond to than actually critiquing the ideas.
By the way, when you use ellipses, putting spaces in between them is, well, pointless. There’s really no reason to deviate from standard orthography, and it can be kind of irritating. Satt already uses up everyone’s commas.
If you need commas,,, I can sell you some.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:46:53pm |
Long day at work…lots of meetings…competing managers…worthless employee trying to manipulate me into saying something he can take to HR…errands on the way home…long line at the store…finally get home, decide to pour myself a martini for a change, and when I turn around, my goddamn gin-swilling cat is drinking it. And now football season has started and teams with crappy offenses are scoring 40 points in the first half? What the fuck?
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:47:14pm |
Just to demonstrate how these bullshit artists operate, here’s a video of CrazyPam on Fox & Friends this morning:
Here is the article they were bashing.
It’s a bit time consuming to watch the video and read the article, but it’s well worth it. It’s astonishing, the kind of deception. They basically just cross their fingers and hope no one in their audience bothers to read the articles they rail against.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:47:30pm |
re: #255 MicheleR
For sure- and I have done enough applying that the differences between private and public colleges.
…are…
?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:47:35pm |
re: #251 austin_blue
Be consistent on how you post. Use capitals and correct punctuation.
YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HATE’S BAD GRAMMER!
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:47:58pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:48:06pm |
re: #258 Atlas Fails
Just to demonstrate how these bullshit artists operate, here’s a video of CrazyPam on Fox & Friends this morning:
[Video]Here is the article they were bashing.
It’s a bit time consuming to watch the video and read the article, but it’s well worth it. It’s astonishing, the kind of deception. They basically just cross their fingers and hope no one in their audience bothers to read the articles they rail against.
Reading is gay and very French!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:48:18pm |
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:48:22pm |
re: #251 austin_blue
Oh, I did not know all that, I will be more careful. I did not realize that format issues would have such an effect.
For the record, I do admit, I am a lousy speller, so much so Microsoft will occasionally have no spelling suggestions, and I have to spell it “less” wrong. I know that is no excuse, just a fact.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:48:59pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:49:23pm |
re: #261 SteveMcG
Do you have any of the phonetic ones?
[Video]
I have a batch coming in from Asia next weak.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:49:32pm |
re: #257 darthstar
Long day at work…lots of meetings…competing managers…worthless employee trying to manipulate me into saying something he can take to HR…errands on the way home…long line at the store…finally get home, decide to pour myself a martini for a change, and when I turn around, my goddamn gin-swilling cat is drinking it. And now football season has started and teams with crappy offenses are scoring 40 points in the first half? What the fuck?
I’m still there, feh.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:49:41pm |
re: #264 MicheleR
It’s really the torture you’re putting grammar through that’s making my eye twitch, rather than any misspellings.
Also, may I introduce you to the contraction? They’re pretty snazzy; all the cool kids are using them these days.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:49:52pm |
re: #257 darthstar
Long day at work…lots of meetings…competing managers…worthless employee trying to manipulate me into saying something he can take to HR…errands on the way home…long line at the store…finally get home, decide to pour myself a martini for a change, and when I turn around, my goddamn gin-swilling cat is drinking it. And now football season has started and teams with crappy offenses are scoring 40 points in the first half? What the fuck?
yeah, I’d much rather to listen to your personal blather…thanks
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:50:00pm |
re: #246 Decatur Deb
Fopx News quotes it:
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
they know that most people will never find out what is in the plan, so it doesn’t matter if their criticisms relate to anything that’s actually there or not
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:50:21pm |
re: #262 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Reading is gay and very French!
Which one, the one in PA or the one in Berkshire?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:50:39pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:50:46pm |
re: #262 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Wingnut comes a little too easily to you.
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:50:46pm |
re: #257 darthstar
Long day at work…lots of meetings…competing managers…worthless employee trying to manipulate me into saying something he can take to HR…errands on the way home…long line at the store…finally get home, decide to pour myself a martini for a change, and when I turn around, my goddamn gin-swilling cat is drinking it. And now football season has started and teams with crappy offenses are scoring 40 points in the first half? What the fuck?
At least the cat is having an enjoyable evening.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:51:26pm |
re: #275 allegro
At least the cat is having an enjoyable evening.
my cat likes beer
not good, because he licks the bottle, and then knocks the bottle over *_*
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:51:26pm |
re: #264 MicheleR
Oh, I did not know all that, I will be more careful. I did not realize that format issues would have such an effect.
For the record, I do admit, I am a lousy speller, so much so Microsoft will occasionally have no spelling suggestions, and I have to spell it “less” wrong. I know that is no excuse, just a fact.
And I just noted the spell function here- wow, that was an epic fail for someone who prides herself in trying to keep the world from knowing my spelling issues.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:52:05pm |
re: #272 negativ
Which one, the one in PA or the one in Berkshire?
Which ones have the arugula and mustard on hamburgers!
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:52:14pm |
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:52:57pm |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:53:06pm |
re: #270 albusteve
yeah, I’d much rather to listen to your personal blather…thanks
Steve, you’re being an asshole again.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:53:09pm |
re: #276 WindUpBird
my cat likes beer
not good, because he licks the bottle, and then knocks the bottle over *_*
My cat likes Popeye’s. Prolly all cats like Popeye’s.
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:53:28pm |
re: #276 WindUpBird
my cat likes beer
not good, because he licks the bottle, and then knocks the bottle over *_*
I had a Moluccan cockatoo who loved beer. He’d hook his beak into the can and lift it to lick the beer with his tongue. He was great fun at parties.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:53:55pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54:33pm |
re: #264 MicheleR
Oh, I did not know all that, I will be more careful. I did not realize that format issues would have such an effect.
For the record, I do admit, I am a lousy speller, so much so Microsoft will occasionally have no spelling suggestions, and I have to spell it “less” wrong. I know that is no excuse, just a fact.
Forget everybody else here, they’re all poopy heads. Just do what I tell you to do, and know I will never steer you wrong.
Step 1: Send me $14.95 and a stamped self addressed envelope.
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54:44pm |
re: #256 b_sharp
If you need commas,,, I can sell you some.
I have a bunch of the high-flying ones for sale on e-bay. I sell both singles and pairs.
””
””“”
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SteveMcGazi Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54:44pm |
re: #281 CuriousLurker
Hope she does, I don’t know where these guys are going.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:55:15pm |
re: #283 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
My cat likes Popeye’s. Prolly all cats like Popeye’s.
Yep. My two like both chicken and biscuits.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:55:22pm |
re: #278 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Which ones have the arugula and mustard on hamburgers!
Don’t tell me there’s been an outrageous outrage over mustard on hamburgers…
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:55:33pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:56:11pm |
re: #276 WindUpBird
my cat likes beer
not good, because he licks the bottle, and then knocks the bottle over *_*
You do know what bowls are for, right?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:57:07pm |
re: #288 3CPO
I have a bunch of the high-flying ones for sale on e-bay. I sell both singles and pairs.
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Those look like Chinese counterfeit punctuation marks to me.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:57:50pm |
re: #293 b_sharp
You do know what bowls are for, right?
You drink your beer out of a bowl? What are you, a viking?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:58:03pm |
re: #286 albusteve
no, not again
I was wondering when you stopped.
All is well with the universe once again.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:58:24pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:58:40pm |
… . . “”“
Hey! Who let those loose in here!?! And I’m not going to clean up after them!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:59:00pm |
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:59:30pm |
re: #299 oaktree
… . “”“
Hey! Who let those loose in here!?! And I’m not going to clean up after them!
Sorry… I just left the door open for a second!
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:00:23pm |
re: #288 3CPO
I have a bunch of the high-flying ones for sale on e-bay. I sell both singles and pairs.
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Yah, no doubt the cheap Galapagos ones. Mine are much better quality.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:00:44pm |
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:00:59pm |
re: #302 b_sharp
Yah, no doubt the cheap Galapagos ones. Mine are much better quality.
Nothing is cheap in the Galapagos.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:01:15pm |
re: #295 negativ
You drink your beer out of a bowl? What are you, a viking?
No. My cats use a bowl.
I use a straw.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:01:37pm |
re: #227 CuriousLurker
I admit I believe climate change is a serious problem. While I have seen a lot of articles that argue that it is pollution, and others question if it is an earth cycle, I guess I all really believe is that there are serious issues for the planet, and no matter what causes it, we need to do what we can to address the issues.
I am a firm beliver in giving people options to choose from, in their education, and in life. So, I support the teaching of evolution.
That said- I’m torn on teaching creation, because of the religious issue. I’m still trying to figure that one out. I believe in religious freedom, and also in the right to be free from religion, if that makes sense.
I’m sorry that I’m a bit less sure about the evolution/creation question. I really do believe in religious freedom, but
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:02:50pm |
re: #300 Alouette
You had to pay a tax on your penis phone?
Maybe America needs a penis tax..
All guys would pay more than they should or need..
yup.. I can not believe I’m in the 9% bracket.. They are killing me…
/
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:03:01pm |
re: #296 3CPO
Are you with the FTC…?
Why, yes in fact I… oh hey! How did this $5000 cash slip into my vest pocket? Never mind, good sir. Carry on. Excelsior!
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:03:07pm |
re: #306 MicheleR
So you don’t understand that the excess CO2 that mankind has put into the atmosphere is the reason for the current trend of global warming?
And how on earth can you support teaching creationism and support religious freedom? What form of creationism do you support being taught?
Sheesh.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:03:11pm |
re: #306 MicheleR
I admit I believe climate change is a serious problem. While I have seen a lot of articles that argue that it is pollution, and others question if it is an earth cycle, I guess I all really believe is that there are serious issues for the planet, and no matter what causes it, we need to do what we can to address the issues.
I am a firm beliver in giving people options to choose from, in their education, and in life. So, I support the teaching of evolution.
That said- I’m torn on teaching creation, because of the religious issue. I’m still trying to figure that one out. I believe in religious freedom, and also in the right to be free from religion, if that makes sense.
I’m sorry that I’m a bit less sure about the evolution/creation question. I really do believe in religious freedom, but
Fair enough. What about Plain?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:03:51pm |
re: #305 b_sharp
No. My cats use a bowl.
I use a straw.
So the cat drinks the beer out of the bowl; you then siphon it from the cat using the straw. Odd, but I’ve seen weirder things on the internets.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:04:05pm |
re: #306 MicheleR
I admit I believe climate change is a serious problem. While I have seen a lot of articles that argue that it is pollution, and others question if it is an earth cycle, I guess I all really believe is that there are serious issues for the planet, and no matter what causes it, we need to do what we can to address the issues.
I am a firm beliver in giving people options to choose from, in their education, and in life. So, I support the teaching of evolution.
That said- I’m torn on teaching creation, because of the religious issue. I’m still trying to figure that one out. I believe in religious freedom, and also in the right to be free from religion, if that makes sense.
I’m sorry that I’m a bit less sure about the evolution/creation question. I really do believe in religious freedom, but
If the schools want to teach the Biblical version of creation, they can do it in comparative religions class. It does not belong in science class.
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:04:31pm |
Just posted this page: littlegreenfootballs.com
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:04:55pm |
re: #312 negativ
My new e-bay shop: 3CPO’s gold-plated cat-siphons. Guaranteed not to rust or clog.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:05:14pm |
re: #306 MicheleR
I’m torn on teaching creation, because of the religious issue.
So just go into science class and teach all the kids that Vishnu created the world and Shiva destroys it. Problem solved.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:06:01pm |
re: #312 negativ
So the cat drinks the beer out of the bowl; you then siphon it from the cat using the straw. Odd, but I’ve seen weirder things on the internets.
Do you have to let all my secrets out on the Internets? I’d like to keep at least a couple in a closet.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:06:35pm |
re: #315 3CPO
My new e-bay shop: 3CPO’s gold-plated cat-siphons. Guaranteed not to rust or clog.
You damned capitalist.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:06:41pm |
re: #316 prairiefire
Heh. I only hate their misuse and abuse.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:07:16pm |
re: #313 b_sharp
If the schools want to teach the Biblical version of creation, they can do it in comparative religions class. It does not belong in science class.
And then, when they get to college.
Our new adjunct professor friend likely knows by now, kids are coming to college out of high school barely able to write a 5 paragraph intro-point1-point2-point3-conclusion paper.
It’s hard to do, I imagine, when you have not been taught even basic spelling, and grammar.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:07:19pm |
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:08:00pm |
re: #306 MicheleR
One of the problems with teaching something like creationism—aside from the bad science—is which religion’s creation story are you going to teach? If you choose one over others people will balk, and there aren’t enough hours in the day to teach all of them AND evolution.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:08:21pm |
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:09:58pm |
Oh God. Another night of the baby boomer bar band. More 50 something white guys playing the same old “oldies” over and over again.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:11:10pm |
re: #321 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
And then, when they get to college.
Our new adjunct professor friend likely knows by now, kids are coming to college out of high school barely able to write a 5 paragraph intro-point1-point2-point3-conclusion paper.
It’s hard to do, I imagine, when you have not been taught even basic spelling, and grammar.
Actually, I’d like to see religion be taught in critical thinking and formal logic classes, classes that should be compulsory in high school.
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prairiefire Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:11:32pm |
re: #277 MicheleR
And I just noted the spell function here- wow, that was an epic fail for someone who prides herself in trying to keep the world from knowing my spelling issues.
“who prides herself in trying to keep the world from knowing her own spelling issues.”
Sorry, hi, I’m being a jerk.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:11:41pm |
re: #325 Gus 802
Oh God. Another night of the baby boomer bar band. More 50 something white guys playing the same old “oldies” over and over again.
Hmph. And what do they consider “oldies”? Do I even want to know?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:12:04pm |
re: #324 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I like satt’s comma-ellipsis. , ,,, ,, ,,, ,,, ,,
Now you’re ,,, ,, ,,
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:12:46pm |
re: #326 b_sharp
Actually, I’d like to see religion be taught in critical thinking and formal logic classes, classes that should be compulsory in high school.
You know that won’t fly. Too many oxen would be gored, and many with influence fear more intellectualism in the United States.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:14:47pm |
re: #328 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Hmph. And what do they consider “oldies”? Do I even want to know?
I don’t know. I’m sick of it all. Every fricking Thursday night and Friday night. They even sound 50 years old and up from 300 yards. You can tell. Heck I’m in that same age range. Apparently this is some blues band. It’s boring. Baby boomers have overplayed the blues so much that I’m tired of hearing it unless it’s something really unique from the 30s to the 50s. Same old boring pentatonic riffs every single time. Enough already.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:14:53pm |
re: #310 Obdicut
I understand that you list a cause that is supported by scientific fact, but wanted to mention the body of research done about this issue, which questions the possibility of a cycle. I believe pollution is a cause, but cannot, I mean can’t, pretend that there are no other explanations.
My comments on creation are meant to show that while I do support religious freedom, I am not sure how creation could be taught without religion, making it unsuitable for many people, in public schools. I support the separation of church and state, but also the right to practice, so while I want to say “religion has no place in public schools” it just feels as though I’m being hypocritical, because of my belief in religious freedom. I can’t figure out how to support both of these ideals to make everyone, of every religion happy, to say nothing of the rights of atheists.
I don’t have all the answers. I’m still learning.
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:16:00pm |
re: #1 Dark_Falcon
I’m in late and missed the speech. Oops.
Well, whatever Obama proposed I’m against it.
/kidding about that last.
Llate to the party here, but Dark’s comment just screams out for this clip:
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:16:36pm |
The Green Bay education system is not being represented well tonight. Their football is though!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:16:48pm |
re: #333 MicheleR
I understand that you list a cause that is supported by scientific fact, but wanted to mention the body of research done about this issue, which questions the possibility of a cycle. I believe pollution is a cause, but cannot, I mean can’t, pretend that there are no other explanations.
My comments on creation are meant to show that while I do support religious freedom, I am not sure how creation could be taught without religion, making it unsuitable for many people, in public schools. I support the separation of church and state, but also the right to practice, so while I want to say “religion has no place in public schools” it just feels as though I’m being hypocritical, because of my belief in religious freedom. I can’t figure out how to support both of these ideals to make everyone, of every religion happy, to say nothing of the rights of atheists.
I don’t have all the answers. I’m still learning.
Can I interpret this as meaning you do not think the Biblical Creation story should be taught as an alternative to Deep Time and evolution in high school science classes?
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:17:06pm |
re: #321 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I have been told here that my grammar is making someone hurt, so I am right in there with my students.
I’ve also noticed the texting format in papers. That was new to me. L8 and u.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:17:38pm |
re: #330 oaktree
You know that won’t fly. Too many oxen would be gored, and many with influence fear more intellectualism in the United States.
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Without stressing education, and anti-intellectualism is really anti-education, the US will fall behind countries like China and become a danger to the rest of the world.
I see what you did there. Dressed up cheap quotes are still cheap quotes.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:19:01pm |
re: #326 b_sharp
Actually, I’d like to see religion be taught in critical thinking and formal logic classes, classes that should be compulsory in high school.
Not me. I’m actually fine with the religious-bigot high schools teaching their “our religion is better” classes — some people send their kids there for that, so let them. Just keep it out of any state accreditation, let it count towards their “our religion is better” college admissions departments. That’s cool by me.
I wish more were required, as you say, to teach formal logic and some kind of critical thinking. Teaching religion becomes a problem because whose vision of what religion do you use, and how do you work it into the curriculum with kids not even being taught any history until the 8th grade.
And fgs if they must teach to tests, keep it off of standardized testing.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:19:24pm |
re: #264 MicheleR
Oh, I did not know all that, I will be more careful. I did not realize that format issues would have such an effect.
For the record, I do admit, I am a lousy speller, so much so Microsoft will occasionally have no spelling suggestions, and I have to spell it “less” wrong. I know that is no excuse, just a fact.
correct spelling is overate overratt ov too hard
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:19:35pm |
re: #333 MicheleR
I understand that you list a cause that is supported by scientific fact, but wanted to mention the body of research done about this issue, which questions the possibility of a cycle. I believe pollution is a cause, but cannot, I mean can’t, pretend that there are no other explanations.
I hope you’ve got your science bookmarks handy, because you’re going to need them to defend that position here.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:20:00pm |
re: #337 oak tree
That’s what I was saying. If you teach a religion based anything, which one do you teach? I know, the assumption is that it will be based on the Christian understanding, but that is only one option.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:20:41pm |
re: #333 MicheleR
I understand that you list a cause that is supported by scientific fact, but wanted to mention the body of research done about this issue, which questions the possibility of a cycle. I believe pollution is a cause, but cannot, I mean can’t, pretend that there are no other explanations.
My comments on creation are meant to show that while I do support religious freedom, I am not sure how creation could be taught without religion, making it unsuitable for many people, in public schools. I support the separation of church and state, but also the right to practice, so while I want to say “religion has no place in public schools” it just feels as though I’m being hypocritical, because of my belief in religious freedom. I can’t figure out how to support both of these ideals to make everyone, of every religion happy, to say nothing of the rights of atheists.
I don’t have all the answers. I’m still learning.
Simple. People are free to worship however they please and believe in whatever gets them through the night. For something to be taught in science class though, it should have actual science to back it up. Religion answers the why, science answers the how. Mixing them is never a good idea.
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:23:28pm |
Finally the long search has ended. I finally have the “perfect” icon for my screen name. Yesterday I tried to load a photo of a soft pretzel for my icon. The darn thing was too big. Today on a whim I did a yahoo search and found the almost perfect picture of some genuine Philly soft pretzels.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:23:41pm |
re: #339 b_sharp
I see what you did there. Dressed up cheap quotes are still cheap quotes.
The problem with caging them is that they start to breed. :(
#”“”“”%… .”
And I concur that anti-education forces in the United States are hurting out ability to keep up, much less stay ahead. And once this slips much further we will no longer be able to partially compensate by attracting educated people from foreign lands to come here to set up shop. (Well, perhaps as overseers.)
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:25:12pm |
re: #346 PhillyPretzel
Finally the long search has ended. I finally have the “perfect” icon for my screen name. Yesterday I tried to load a photo of a soft pretzel for my icon. The darn thing was too big. Today on a whim I did a yahoo search and found the almost perfect picture of some genuine Philly soft pretzels.
They’re quite lovely.
They remind me of ampersands…
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:25:19pm |
re: #346 PhillyPretzel
Finally the long search has ended. I finally have the “perfect” icon for my screen name. Yesterday I tried to load a photo of a soft pretzel for my icon. The darn thing was too big. Today on a whim I did a yahoo search and found the almost perfect picture of some genuine Philly soft pretzels.
So, to start a nasty debate…
What is the best topping or item to have with your soft pretzel?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:25:29pm |
Washington DC appears to be flooding. Parts of 495 are closed. Whoa.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:25:29pm |
re: #340 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Not me. I’m actually fine with the religious-bigot high schools teaching their “our religion is better” classes — some people send their kids there for that, so let them. Just keep it out of any state accreditation, let it count towards their “our religion is better” college admissions departments. That’s cool by me.
I wish more were required, as you say, to teach formal logic and some kind of critical thinking. Teaching religion becomes a problem because whose vision of what religion do you use, and how do you work it into the curriculum with kids not even being taught any history until the 8th grade.
And fgs if they must teach to tests, keep it off of standardized testing.
The US is the elephant in the room. It moves and everybody else feels the pain of being stepped on, or crushed into a wall. It is in our (as in not US) best interests to have a literate, educated, and logical US.
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prairiefire Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:26:21pm |
re: #349 oaktree
So, to start a nasty debate…
What is the best topping or item to have with your soft pretzel?
Cream Cheese.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:26:29pm |
re: #342 CuriousLurker
Ok, maybe I was not clear. I was trying to say that I’ve looked at different views. I believe based on what I have read that pollution is a root cause. I am open to learning more about it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:26:30pm |
re: #333 MicheleR
I support the separation of church and state, but also the right to practice, so while I want to say “religion has no place in public schools” it just feels as though I’m being hypocritical, because of my belief in religious freedom.
There is nothing hypocritical in keeping religious instruction to the religious schools and practitioners. It’s part of what “separation of church and state” IS.
Teach one, you must teach them all. Teach none and leave it for home/community instruction, and you have more time for the basics, such as grammar and spelling.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:26:46pm |
re: #333 MicheleR
I support the separation of church and state, but also the right to practice, so while I want to say “religion has no place in public schools” it just feels as though I’m being hypocritical, because of my belief in religious freedom. I can’t figure out how to support both of these ideals to make everyone, of every religion happy, to say nothing of the rights of atheists.
Keeping government & religion separate is the only way to protect everyone (including atheists). It may not make everyone happy, but that’s a separate issue.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:26:48pm |
re: #333 MicheleR
I understand that you list a cause that is supported by scientific fact, but wanted to mention the body of research done about this issue, which questions the possibility of a cycle. I believe pollution is a cause, but cannot, I mean can’t, pretend that there are no other explanations.
There are other posited explanations yes, but none of them make any sense in light of the actual evidence. We have instruments that measure things like the sun’s energy output and cosmic rays, and their natural variance isn’t near enough to explain the observed warming. CO2 levels haven’t been this high in 15 million years.
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:26:57pm |
re: #349 oaktree
So, to start a nasty debate…
What is the best topping or item to have with your soft pretzel?
Whiskey.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:27:47pm |
re: #341 engineer dog
correct spelling is
overateoverrattovtoo hard
Correct spelling shows consideration for the readers but it isn’t necessary for understanding. Purposeful misspelling can add a bit of humour.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:28:08pm |
re: #358 PhillyPretzel
No topping.
I personally favor mustard. Preferably brown, but yellow will do.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:28:35pm |
re: #342 CuriousLurker
I hope you’ve got your science bookmarks handy, because you’re going to need them to defend that position here.
Ain’t that the truth.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:28:55pm |
re: #360 oaktree
I personally favor mustard. Preferably brown, but yellow will do.
“Pardon me. Do you have any cheap, yellow mustard?”
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:29:07pm |
re: #338 MicheleR
I have been told here that my grammar is making someone hurt, so I am right in there with my students.
Do you feel you’re qualified to teach them, then?
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:29:20pm |
re: #358 PhillyPretzel
No topping.
I love Philly..I slabbed tons of mustard on my soft pretzel at the Airport
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:29:21pm |
re: #349 oaktree
Everyone has their own favorite. You put on your pretzel whatever you want.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:29:40pm |
re: #344 Atlas Fails
Simple. People are free to worship however they please and believe in whatever gets them through the night. For something to be taught in science class though, it should have actual science to back it up. Religion answers the why, science answers the how. Mixing them is never a good idea.
I think we need to talk.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:29:46pm |
re: #346 PhillyPretzel
Finally the long search has ended. I finally have the “perfect” icon for my screen name. Yesterday I tried to load a photo of a soft pretzel for my icon. The darn thing was too big. Today on a whim I did a yahoo search and found the almost perfect picture of some genuine Philly soft pretzels.
Woohoo—you finally got some real pretzels!! *high-fives PhyllyP*
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:30:09pm |
You ever notice how we have what could be called “professional dingers” at LGF? It’s like a hobby of theirs.
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:30:39pm |
re: #359 b_sharp
Correct spelling shows consideration for the readers but it isn’t necessary for understanding. Purposeful misspelling can add a bit of humour.
Purpusfull mispeling is actuaaly a marketting technique to cause you to remember what you read. It’ll stick in youre brian longer.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:30:55pm |
Cripes. Two boys throwing rocks over towards the houses down below. Had to yell at them. They stopped.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:31:09pm |
re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Washington DC appears to be flooding. Parts of 495 are closed. Whoa.
How much frikkin water did that storm have?
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:31:52pm |
re: #369 recusancy
Purpusfull mispeling is actuaaly a marketting technique to cause you to remember what you read. It’ll stick in youre brian longer.
Yep. And then you need bleech to cleen you brian out afterwards.
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3CPO Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:33:00pm |
re: #359 b_sharp
Correct spelling shows consideration for the readers but it isn’t necessary for understanding. Purposeful misspelling can add a bit of humour.
Correct spelling can be critical for understanding. I once got an ion pump in for rebuilding, and took it apart to determine the condition of the cathodes. The sales person (a former school teacher, no less) wrote up the order for “Arsonic cleaning.” I thought they were pumping Argon and wanted sonic cleaning, which was one of our services. Turns out they wanted “arsenic cleaning.” Of course, I found this out after I took the thing apart with my bare hands.
Other than that one experience, I’d have to say I agree with you, though.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:33:00pm |
re: #371 PhillyPretzel
And you have a problem with that? /
You bet. Don’t want that kind of trash around me even if I am leaving tomorrow. Thank goodness. Been outside for the most part since fucking May. I’ve had it with this stupid place.
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roberta g Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:33:01pm |
OT advice request-I was on my 2 year old Dell laptop lurking, etc here for about 3 hours. It was plugged in and it started making a click-clicking continuous noise from it’s guts (not the speaker). Afraid it was about to die, I shut it completely down and switched to the DT. Has anyone experienced anything similar and had a non-fatal, non blue screen of death outcome?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:33:26pm |
re: #372 b_sharp
How much frikkin water did that storm have?
Looks nasty.
Of course, there are “dick-shaped” clouds where I am.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:35:26pm |
re: #375 Gus 802
You bet. Don’t want that kind of trash around me even if I am leaving tomorrow. Thank goodness. Been outside for the most part since fucking May. I’ve had it with this stupid place.
heh…good luck bro
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:35:27pm |
re: #353 MicheleR
Ok, maybe I was not clear. I was trying to say that I’ve looked at different views. I believe based on what I have read that pollution is a root cause. I am open to learning more about it.
Just a piece of friendly advice: If you intend to stick around, you’ll want to work on that clarity thing. Not testing the clarity & logic of your questions & answers in your head before posting them here can land you in a world of hurt (figuratively speaking, of course).
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:35:41pm |
re: #376 roberta g
OT advice request-I was on my 2 year old Dell laptop lurking, etc here for about 3 hours. It was plugged in and it started making a click-clicking continuous noise from it’s guts (not the speaker). Afraid it was about to die, I shut it completely down and switched to the DT. Has anyone experienced anything similar and had a non-fatal, non blue screen of death outcome?
Was it kind of a metallic sound? Might be harddrive failure. Are you in a spot to make a backup? If so, do so.
What’s a DT?
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:35:50pm |
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jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:35:57pm |
re: #369 recusancy
Purpusfull mispeling is actuaaly a marketting technique to cause you to remember what you read. It’ll stick in youre brian longer.
Maybe we can persuade the Kochs to call it “Kleen Koal.”
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:36:04pm |
re: #377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
Looks nasty.
Of course, there are “dick-shaped” clouds where I am.
And I’m sure there sites already claiming this is God upset about Obama’s speech tonight.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:36:26pm |
re: #353 MicheleR
Ok, maybe I was not clear. I was trying to say that I’ve looked at different views. I believe based on what I have read that pollution is a root cause. I am open to learning more about it.
Pollution, as traditionally understood, has a small part in warming. The biggest factor now is CO2, which has just lately been classed as a pollutant. Aerosols generally increase albedo, while black soot decreases albedo. The energy balance is most upset by GHGs.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:36:46pm |
re: #376 roberta g
OT advice request-I was on my 2 year old Dell laptop lurking, etc here for about 3 hours. It was plugged in and it started making a click-clicking continuous noise from it’s guts (not the speaker). Afraid it was about to die, I shut it completely down and switched to the DT. Has anyone experienced anything similar and had a non-fatal, non blue screen of death outcome?
It’s the hard drive head, parking over and over again. Not a good sign.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:36:59pm |
re: #382 jaunte
Maybe we can persuade the Kochs to call it “Kleen Koal.”
With their own name brand added as well???
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:37:08pm |
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:37:17pm |
In the immediate NYC metro area, we’re drying out a bit, but parts of PA, NJ, and NY are getting hammered with historic levels of flooding.
Now, we’ve got a terror concern for the 9/11 commemorations this weekend. Security is already getting amped up, and more is on the way as law enforcement is taking the potential car/truck bomb threat seriously.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:37:24pm |
re: #379 CuriousLurker
Understood. I will work on it. I am not on Facebook, but I am acting like I am.
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:37:44pm |
re: #386 goddamnedfrank
It’s the hard drive head, parking over and over again. Not a good sign.
what do you think of the Packer game?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:37:50pm |
re: #353 MicheleR
Ok, maybe I was not clear. I was trying to say that I’ve looked at different views. I believe based on what I have read that pollution is a root cause. I am open to learning more about it.
I just want you to get to the Palin part. /
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:37:52pm |
re: #385 b_sharp
Aerosols generally increase albedo, while black soot decreases albedo. The energy balance is most upset by GHGs.
How does it effect libido? I mean other than dying and all that?
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:38:00pm |
re: #377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
Looks nasty.
Of course, there are “dick-shaped” clouds where I am.
It could be bright and sunny outside and there would be dick-shaped clouds in Washington, D.C.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:38:03pm |
re: #368 Gus 802
You ever notice how we have what could be called “professional dingers” at LGF? It’s like a hobby of theirs.
No, I haven’t noticed.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:38:57pm |
re: #369 recusancy
Purpusfull mispeling is actuaaly a marketting technique to cause you to remember what you read. It’ll stick in youre brian longer.
What does my brother Brain have to do with it?
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aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:39:09pm |
re: #389 wee fury
OMG! Best touchdown EVER.
Packers got a steal in Cobb. He made the Cats competative in the SEC all by himself.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:39:28pm |
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:39:59pm |
re: #394 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I just want you to get to the Palin part. /
About why I fell out of love with her?
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wee fury Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:40:14pm |
re: #368 Gus 802
You ever notice how we have what could be called “professional dingers” at LGF? It’s like a hobby of theirs.
For the dingers
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:40:28pm |
re: #325 Gus 802
Oh God. Another night of the baby boomer bar band. More 50 something white guys playing the same old “oldies” over and over again.
If it isn’t already, it should be legally and socially acceptable to immolate any band or DJ that plays a Bob Seger song.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:40:49pm |
re: #391 MicheleR
Understood. I will work on it. I am not on Facebook, but I am acting like I am.
I have the same problem. I go back and forth on issues like abortion and the death penalty. Climate change deniers just set off a lot of sirens for LGFers, since that was one of Charles’s main reasons for breaking with the right.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:40:50pm |
re: #401 MicheleR
About why I fell out of love with her?
Or, why you fell for her. Or both. Whichever. Just teasing you.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:40:52pm |
re: #392 albusteve
what do you think of the Packer game?
I’m not watching it. I’m out on the patio, BBQing and feeding an apple to the local cottontail rabbits.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:41:06pm |
re: #374 3CPO
Correct spelling can be critical for understanding. I once got an ion pump in for rebuilding, and took it apart to determine the condition of the cathodes. The sales person (a former school teacher, no less) wrote up the order for “Arsonic cleaning.” I thought they were pumping Argon and wanted sonic cleaning, which was one of our services. Turns out they wanted “arsenic cleaning.” Of course, I found this out after I took the thing apart with my bare hands.
Other than that one experience, I’d have to say I agree with you, though.
I was thinking more of non-critical cases like LGF, texting and psychic readings.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:41:19pm |
re: #391 MicheleR
Understood. I will work on it. I am not on Facebook, but I am acting like I am.
Heh, yeah this definitely isn’t FB.
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roberta g Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:41:27pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:42:27pm |
re: #375 Gus 802
You bet. Don’t want that kind of trash around me even if I am leaving tomorrow. Thank goodness. Been outside for the most part since fucking May. I’ve had it with this stupid place.
Hey bro, what’s up?
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:42:34pm |
re: #382 jaunte
Maybe we can persuade the Kochs to call it “Kleen Koal.”
Aliteration works just fine. Nobody’s having trouble remembering that. Mispelling won’t make it more palatable. They need more commercials of blue sky and kids running through green fields ///
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:42:34pm |
re: #378 albusteve
heh…good luck bro
Thanks. Might hit a Motel6 for a day just so I can lie in a real bed for 24 hours.
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:42:58pm |
re: #390 lawhawk
I have a page posted on the report from Yahoo. littlegreenfootballs.com
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aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:43:46pm |
Saints come right back. Last team with the ball wins!
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prairiefire Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:44:20pm |
re: #369 recusancy
Purpusfull mispeling is actuaaly a marketting technique to cause you to remember what you read. It’ll stick in youre brian longer.
My brian has been stuck long enough.
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:44:26pm |
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recusancy Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:44:43pm |
BofA discussing about 40,000 job cuts
Give ‘em more tax cuts!
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:44:56pm |
re: #405 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Or, why you fell for her. Or both. Whichever. Just teasing you.
I identified with her on so many levels. I had a similar educational past, she just seemed so different. I liked it. I was taken with the difference. On closer look, we weren’t very compatible on some key issues.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:45:01pm |
re: #381 Atlas Fails
Religion answers the why for some people.
Some people believe it answers the why, even if there is no why.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:45:20pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:45:28pm |
Whoever writes Old Spice commercials is on something. I want some of it.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:45:28pm |
re: #412 Gus 802
Thanks. Might hit a Motel6 for a day just so I can lie in a real bed for 24 hours.
Yeah, good luck, Gus.
*Willie Nelson starting to loop through head—“On the road again…*
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:45:28pm |
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albusteve Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:45:28pm |
re: #412 Gus 802
Thanks. Might hit a Motel6 for a day just so I can lie in a real bed for 24 hours.
you’ll be fine…there are twists and turns aplenty yet
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:46:10pm |
re: #410 b_sharp
Hey bro, what’s up?
Hitting the road tomorrow. Heading back to Denver where I can afford the rent. Gonna wing it for now. I think I should be in Nevada by tomorrow night.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:46:38pm |
re: #421 oaktree
Whoever writes Old Spice commercials is on something. I want some of it.
Did you see his dozen abs?
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jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:46:42pm |
re: #417 recusancy
BofA discussing about 40,000 job cuts
Give ‘em more tax cuts!
“…a tough second quarter for trading income take their toll on investment banking units…”
Hard Times.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:46:51pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:46:51pm |
re: #390 lawhawk
Without the fires in Texas and the Flooding right now, The US has suffered $31 Billion Dollars in Damage from Natural Disasters this year. The only worse years we have had are 2004 (Florida gets hit alot), 2005 (Hi Katrina), and 2008 (Ike and Gustav).
And now, we have to worry about (plausibly) Maria and Nate.
Nate is closer, but not moving much. Maria is reorganizing and booking it. They will doing their worst at the same time.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:46:51pm |
re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How does it effect libido? I mean other than dying and all that?
It just tends to rub the wrong way.
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:47:52pm |
re: #416 publicityStunted
Too funny! I think that’s why I’m struggling here, Facebook only allows people to like you.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:48:00pm |
re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you see his dozen abs?
Golden treasure pouring from his pants implied he was GOP. But he was also a sailor…
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roberta g Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:48:09pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:48:13pm |
re: #317 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
So just go into science class and teach all the kids that Vishnu created the world and Shiva destroys it. Problem solved.
Brahma creates, Vishnu preserves, and Shiva destroys. What kind of science class did YOU have?
//Also, Krishna copies.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:48:28pm |
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:48:43pm |
re: #417 recusancy
BofA discussing about 40,000 job cuts
Give ‘em more tax cuts!
Tax cuts and zero percent interest “loans” from the Fed.
Oops. I know. I can’t mention that.
//Some democracy we live in.
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:49:50pm |
re: #433 oaktree
Golden treasure pouring from his pants implied he was GOP.
Only if it’s trickling down.
/I’m going to hell
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MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:50:13pm |
Well, thanks for not killing me. I will go get a Ph.d in everything and try again soon.:)
Good night, and thanks to all of you who were kind in your critical comments.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:50:56pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:51:19pm |
Hurricane Katia will die about this time tomorrow.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:52:22pm |
re: #338 MicheleR
I have been told here that my grammar is making someone hurt, so I am right in there with my students.
I’ve also noticed the texting format in papers. That was new to me. L8 and u.
I got that at one school, from my high school kids.
I tried to explain: “If you don’t know the answer, try to fake it. If you can’t even fake it, it’s all right to write, “I don’t know.” I will give you no points. If you can’t be bothered, you can leave the space empty, and I will give you no points.
“If you write “IDK”, I will deduct points up to twice the value of the item.
“If you write “WTF?” I will kill you.”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:52:36pm |
Kid says to his dad, “Dad? Can I have fifty bucks?”
The Dad says, “Forty bucks? What do you need twenty bucks for? Here’s ten bucks. Give five to your sister.”
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:52:46pm |
re: #426 Gus 802
Hitting the road tomorrow. Heading back to Denver where I can afford the rent. Gonna wing it for now. I think I should be in Nevada by tomorrow night.
If you need someone to bitch at/with and you find an Internet connection, my email is linked to my nic.
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:54:19pm |
re: #444 ProLifeLiberal
Katia is apparently sparing the NYC metro area of the effects of TS Lee remnants by robbing it of tropical moisture flow and shifting the rain bands further inland (screwing central and southern NY, central PA, and downstream communities).
Nothing like being a storm a couple hundred miles from the coast and still causing damage by its mere presence (not counting storm erosion).
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:54:44pm |
re: #435 SanFranciscoZionist
Brahma creates, Vishnu preserves, and Shiva destroys. What kind of science class did YOU have?
//Also, Krishna copies.
I thought Krishna was hairy.
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aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:55:41pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:55:42pm |
re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That’s Kinko.
Old Bay Area joke. “Jesus saves, the Elder Gods collect, and Krishna Copies.”
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:56:17pm |
re: #445 SanFranciscoZionist
I got that at one school, from my high school kids.
I tried to explain: “If you don’t know the answer, try to fake it. If you can’t even fake it, it’s all right to write, “I don’t know.” I will give you no points. If you can’t be bothered, you can leave the space empty, and I will give you no points.
“If you write “IDK”, I will deduct points up to twice the value of the item.
“If you write “WTF?” I will kill you.”
I wish I had you as a teacher.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:56:28pm |
re: #447 b_sharp
If you need someone to bitch at/with and you find an Internet connection, my email is linked to my nic.
Cool. Thanks. As soon as I’m in the wilderness I’m going to pull over on the side of the road and scream at the top my lungs. Then get back in my car and continue driving.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:58:25pm |
re: #454 Gus 802
Cool. Thanks. As soon as I’m in the wilderness I’m going to pull over on the side of the road and scream at the top my lungs. Then get back in my car and continue driving.
I’ve actually done that. I scared the shit out of a hawk.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:58:33pm |
re: #449 HoosierHoops
This is an awesome football game
People are screaming in various apartments around the complex, so it must be.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:58:52pm |
Kind of sad isn’t it? I mean, a jobs speech looking for almost 450 billion dollars to create jobs. This while the banks are sitting on much much more and Fortune 500 companies are setting record profits while the top 2 percent in the USA continue to see a rise in income. It’s almost as if though the Federal government is doing what the private sector SHOULD BE DOING!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:59:13pm |
re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh. You bay area folks…
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:59:49pm |
Tax cuts don’t create jobs. Tax cuts just makes rich assholes richer.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 7:59:52pm |
re: #448 lawhawk
NHC predicts that Nate hits the area around Tampico as a Category 2 Hurricane.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:00:51pm |
re: #459 Gus 802
Tax cuts don’t create jobs. Tax cuts just makes rich assholes richer.
Demand creates jobs.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:00:59pm |
re: #454 Gus 802
Gus? I’m sorry. I wasn’t aware that you were having a difficult time. You’re in my thoughts.
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aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:01:31pm |
re: #457 Gus 802
Corporations don’t exist to create jobs, but to create profit. If they can make money not hiring people, they will. That’s why sometimes the government has to step in to create demand by injecting more money in the economy.
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allegro Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:01:43pm |
re: #460 ProLifeLiberal
NHC predicts that Nate hits the area around Tampico as a Category 2 Hurricane.
Yeah, we won’t get any slurps from that one either. All we’re getting is smoke here in Houston. Lots and lots of eye-burning, choking smoke.
I am grateful that my home isn’t on fire. Really. I am.
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:02:02pm |
re: #462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gus? I’m sorry. I wasn’t aware that you were having a difficult time. You’re in my thoughts.
Thanks. For almost a year really. Actually it’s been really sucky since October of 2008.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:03:18pm |
Yi. My brother’s camping trip for his geology students is in doubt. Campground in Tioga is flooded out. And the Susquehanna and related rivers are in flood stage, especially around Binghamton.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:04:16pm |
re: #465 Gus 802
Thanks. For almost a year really. Actually it’s been really sucky since October of 2008.
Just remember you have friends here. We can’t help you pack or move, but we can listen and commiserate.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:04:29pm |
re: #454 Gus 802
Cool. Thanks. As soon as I’m in the wilderness I’m going to pull over on the side of the road and scream at the top my lungs. Then get back in my car and continue driving.
Oh I hear you…
After I ETS’d out of the active Army, I drove from Ft. Riley KS back to Wisconsin. I stopped just across the boarder into Missouri & pissed back at Kansas…
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:04:35pm |
Okay, I’m gonna go read a book or sketch or something.
Gus, be careful and check in with us whenever you can, okay?
G’nite, lizards.
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Political Atheist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:06:06pm |
re: #28 MicheleR
Is it a bad thing that I have become so discouraged that I do not know what to believe anymore? I have been hoping for change, and well, things have changed, but I guess I was hoping they would change for the better.
His speeches are like a shot of liquor to me- they go to my head, but the feeling doesn’t last long… I need a job, I want to keep my house…nothing about the speech made me think that anything will ever reach anyone like me.
Michele
Hang in there. We almost always make a far larger positive difference in our own lives ourselves than any person that ever sat in the Big Chair.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:06:17pm |
re: #464 allegro
Strange thing is, Nate won’t hit until Sunday Night-Monday Morning. It has almost no stearing, and is just sitting about 100 km off the coast of Carmen Municipality, in Campeche State right now. NHC calls its movement “stationary.”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:06:39pm |
re: #465 Gus 802
I just haven’t seen where you’ve posted about it. Three years is a long fucking time (like I’m telling you something you don’t know).
Last year was the worst of my life. And that was really only 6 months of it; so… well? Ijustcan’tfuckin’imagine.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:07:15pm |
re: #469 CuriousLurker
I got a cloud you can sketch.
/
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:08:59pm |
re: #435 SanFranciscoZionist
Brahma creates, Vishnu preserves, and Shiva destroys. What kind of science class did YOU have?
//Also, Krishna copies.
The Chinese, Vikings, Mesoamericans, and Babylonians all concur that we’re basically dwelling on a hacked-up god corpse floating in a watery abyss.
I want to take this concept, meld it with geology, and write a paper that will get me hung, drawn, and quartered at the next “creation science” seminar.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:09:13pm |
re: #473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I got a cloud you can sketch.
/
Here, let me sketch it with my trusty scimitar… *reaches for scabbard* //
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Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:10:11pm |
re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just haven’t seen where you’ve posted about it. Three years is a long fucking time (like I’m telling you something you don’t know).
Last year was the worst of my life. And that was really only 6 months of it; so… well? Ijustcan’tfuckin’imagine.
It started three years ago and got progressively worse. I fell behind on everything. And by everything I mean everything. Got the notice to leave my apartment at the end of April but stalled them for a couple of weeks. They knew me so they basically let me slide. Still, I think they’re pissed off at me. 3 years since the real estate market hit the fan and out went the need for home design and drafting for the most part. No end in site and I’m at my wits end most of the time and numb at the same time.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:10:18pm |
re: #474 The Ghost of a Flea
The Chinese, Vikings, Mesoamericans, and Babylonians all concur that we’re basically dwelling on a hacked-up god corpse floating in a watery abyss.
I want to take this concept, meld it with geology, and write a paper that will get me hung, drawn, and quartered at the next “creation science” seminar.
Make sure to work into lots of maggots somehow.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:10:56pm |
re: #475 CuriousLurker
Now the Muslim gives a bris.
/
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:11:27pm |
re: #477 oaktree
Make sure to work into lots of maggots somehow.
In at least one version, we are the maggots.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:12:29pm |
re: #476 Gus 802
Well, fudge. (but I didn’t say fudge).
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LWNJ Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:13:19pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:13:30pm |
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Spocomptonite Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:13:38pm |
re: #295 negativ
You drink your beer out of a bowl? What are you, a viking?
When I was in NM last month, I’m told that I drank straight tequila out of a bowl. Apparently all the glasses were dirty, so I’m going to say this makes me “practical”.
Also, very drunk.
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aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:15:03pm |
re: #482 Gus 802
Maybe I should drive to North Dakota. ?
I’ve heard that unemployment is low there, and they need housing. Creating jobs should be the #1 priority in D.C., but I’m not holding my breath that anything will get done.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:15:09pm |
re: #485 Spocomptonite
When I was in NM last month, I’m told that I drank straight tequila out of a bowl. Apparently all the glasses were dirty, so I’m going to say this makes me “practical”.
Also, very drunk.
1 tequila, 2 tequila, 3 tequila, floor.
Or the T-shirt my friend sells -
Tequila. Tell us your “never again” story.
| 488 |
Gus Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:20:51pm |
re: #486 aagcobb
I’ve heard that unemployment is low there, and they need housing. Creating jobs should be the #1 priority in D.C., but I’m not holding my breath that anything will get done.
Exactly. From the oil boom. I have everything I need with me.
| 489 |
jaunte Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:22:46pm |
Rick Perry Needs to ‘Tone Down’ His Rhetoric,
Says Kim Jong-Il
“When you’re President of a country, you can’t go around spouting the first crazy thing that comes into your head,” Mr. Kim said. “That man I saw onstage gave me the willies, and I don’t think I’m alone on this.”
| 490 |
aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:23:15pm |
re: #488 Gus 802
Exactly. From the oil boom. I have everything I need with me.
Good luck, whatever you decide to do.
| 491 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:25:59pm |
re: #489 jaunte
Rick Perry Needs to ‘Tone Down’ His Rhetoric,
Says Kim Jong-Il
I wasn’t sure…I clicked…oh, thank the Good Lord.
| 492 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:26:04pm |
| 493 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:26:12pm |
re: #476 Gus 802
It started three years ago and got progressively worse. I fell behind on everything. And by everything I mean everything. Got the notice to leave my apartment at the end of April but stalled them for a couple of weeks. They knew me so they basically let me slide. Still, I think they’re pissed off at me. 3 years since the real estate market hit the fan and out went the need for home design and drafting for the most part. No end in site and I’m at my wits end most of the time and numb at the same time.
Both Regina and Saskatoon in Saskatchewan are experiencing a major building boom.
You might want to investigate the Canadian market.
| 494 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:27:05pm |
| 495 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:27:10pm |
Meanwhile, hundreds of black Africans were fleeing Libya daily, the UN said.
The International Organization for Migration (IOM) said up to 300 black Africans were crossing into Niger every day because they were being systematically targeted by the forces of the National Transitional Council (NTC).
It seems that all black Africans in Tripoli are accused of having backed Col Gaddafi as some of them were used as mercenaries to defend his regime, the BBC’s Thomas Fessy reports.
Appeal for unity my ass.
| 497 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:29:15pm |
| 498 |
aagcobb Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:29:42pm |
re: #493 b_sharp
Canada might have to build a wall on its border to keep American immigrants out!
| 499 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:30:41pm |
re: #495 laZardo
Appeal for unity my ass.
They never mean the blacks. If there were any Jews left in Libya, they wouldn’t mean them either.
I don’t expect much from this new order.
| 500 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:31:11pm |
re: #497 b_sharp
“Savoir Faire is every-waire!”
| 501 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:31:38pm |
re: #499 SanFranciscoZionist
Welcome to the new order same as the old order.
| 502 |
prairiefire Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:31:42pm |
re: #468 wlewisiii
Oh I hear you…
After I ETS’d out of the active Army, I drove from Ft. Riley KS back to Wisconsin. I stopped just across the boarder into Missouri & pissed back at Kansas…
We do that all the time.
| 503 |
LWNJ Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:33:17pm |
| 504 |
prairiefire Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:33:32pm |
re: #493 b_sharp
Both Regina and Saskatoon in Saskatchewan are experiencing a major building boom.
You might want to investigate the Canadian market.
Your CCustoms are pretty tight about the Canadian job market. My husband had to have a lot of paperwork showing he was going to Calgary to do a job only he could do, not a Canadian.
| 505 |
William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:33:37pm |
re: #489 jaunte
Rick Perry Needs to ‘Tone Down’ His Rhetoric,
Says Kim Jong-Il
Pity it’s not the onion so it would get more notice :)
| 506 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:33:42pm |
Goodnight folks, I’m off to read a book on stats.
| 507 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:33:58pm |
re: #499 SanFranciscoZionist
They never mean the blacks. If there were any Jews left in Libya, they wouldn’t mean them either.
I don’t expect much from this new order.
Long as the oil flows, order is order.
| 508 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:34:18pm |
| 509 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:36:23pm |
re: #504 prairiefire
Your CCustoms are pretty tight about the Canadian job market. My husband had to have a lot of paperwork showing he was going to Calgary to do a job only he could do, not a Canadian.
Was that Canadian or Alberta red tape?
Come into Canada as a visitor, scope out some work and then hit the paperwork. Gus can do most of his work remotely, so he doesn’t need to move to Canada.
| 510 |
prairiefire Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:40:08pm |
re: #509 b_sharp
Was that Canadian or Alberta red tape?
Come into Canada as a visitor, scope out some work and then hit the paperwork. Gus can do most of his work remotely, so he doesn’t need to move to Canada.
Hubby just said it was Fed level, not provincial. He had to get a Canadian work permit to work at a Calgary plant that had been purchased by his US company. He had to provide a copy of his college transcript. Also, he made multiple trips over 6 months.
Your idea is good.
| 511 |
William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:50:28pm |
Packers win despite their best efforts to loose… Argh! This will be a long season :D
| 513 |
MicheleR Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:54:45pm |
re: #511 wlewisiii
Packers win despite their best efforts to loose… Argh! This will be a long season :D
Yes, just what I need- the next “Cardiac Pack”
| 515 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 8:57:11pm |
re: #499 SanFranciscoZionist
I’m waiting to see what things look like at the end of the War. Bani Walid is under siege, and Sirte hasn’t yet been reached by the Eastern or Misratan portions of the NLA.
I would expect that ethnicity wise, Libya will resemble Kosovo in response for a while. I would also expect Libya to become closer to the West and Arab World.
Qaddafi had some Pan-African Dream. Expect this to be thrown away, and for the NTC to pull much of its funding for the African Union.
| 516 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:03:45pm |
re: #515 ProLifeLiberal
I’m waiting to see what things look like at the end of the War. Bani Walid is under siege, and Sirte hasn’t yet been reached by the Eastern or Misratan portions of the NLA.
I would expect that ethnicity wise, Libya will resemble Kosovo in response for a while. I would also expect Libya to become closer to the West and Arab World.
Qaddafi had some Pan-African Dream. Expect this to be thrown away, and for the NTC to pull much of its funding for the African Union.
Until they realize they miss their cheap labor…
Edit: Gotta love the ability to remove double-quoting. Thanks Charles :D
| 517 |
darthstar Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:06:27pm |
This woman, Nonnie9999 is really fucking good at photoshop. Check out this mock-up she did with Seven Angry Men…down to replacing the kissing couple with Reagan…
Original
Image: 61VGr1y50lL.jpg
Mock up
Image: seven-angry-men.jpg
| 518 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:09:22pm |
re: #516 laZardo
No, that won’t be for a while.
Anger at percieved collaborationists will rule for years. Remember what happened to the Serbs in Kosovo following their defeat in 1999?
Expect the same (roughly) in Libya. It doesn’t help that several African Nations tried to prop up Qaddafi. Botswana is one of about 3-5 exceptions to that trend.
| 519 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:12:22pm |
Okay, I have an FB ‘friend’ who describes his political views as ‘Perovskite.’
WTF is that. He was a Conservative a year ago
| 520 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:18:20pm |
re: #435 SanFranciscoZionist
Brahma creates, Vishnu preserves, and Shiva destroys. What kind of science class did YOU have?
//Also, Krishna copies.
I guess I was taught by fundamentalist Vaishnavas. ///
| 521 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:20:37pm |
re: #495 laZardo
Yes. Been talking about this since March. Not the most glamorous or valorous of topics. /
| 522 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:24:49pm |
| 523 |
Four More Tears Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:25:08pm |
re: #517 darthstar
This woman, Nonnie9999 is really fucking good at photoshop. Check out this mock-up she did with Seven Angry Men…down to replacing the kissing couple with Reagan…
Original
Image: 61VGr1y50lL.jpg
Mock up
Image: seven-angry-men.jpg
That’s just…wow. The Tiffany’s bag. The pizza.
My god… it’s full of stars.
| 524 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:27:11pm |
re: #522 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Fuckasses. They can fuck off.
Did you get that term from where I think you got that term from?
| 526 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:34:20pm |
The Iranian Government is gonna push to far eventually, maybe soon.
They’re denying people my age and younger the right to be themselves. Eventually, their will be a backlash. And the senile idiots up at the top won’t like it.
| 527 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:35:30pm |
re: #526 ProLifeLiberal
The Iranian Government is gonna push to far eventually, maybe soon.
They’re denying people my age and younger the right to be themselves. Eventually, their will be a backlash. And the senile idiots up at the top won’t like it.
Eh. As long as they have the rural base, they’ll be just fine.
As it were.
| 529 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:38:50pm |
re: #527 laZardo
To a point. But they are now just stupid with their repression. They will eventually (a) be unable help the rural base when they need it for some reason or (b) do something to tick them off.
The way the Iranian Government is acting is beyond irrational.
| 530 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:48:44pm |
re: #529 ProLifeLiberal
Also, as someone pointed out
Iran is one of the world’s youngest countries, with 65 percent of its 75 million people under the age of 30.
Their actions will backfire at some point. Massively.
I confess to liking water fights. :D
Also, this comment amused me.
Yes, it’s often the little things they put the kibosh on that cause the most long-term problems. Seems like a fairly obvious way to allow people to vent and have fun without threatening the regime, then they might not riot. But now the see is planted (and watered)..
I salute this man on wittiness.
| 531 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:50:14pm |
re: #530 ProLifeLiberal
Also, as someone pointed out
Their actions will backfire at some point. Massively.
I confess to liking water fights. :D
The youth are…impressionable, to say the least. They will be as “vulnerable” to the militia’s propaganda as “infiltrated” ideas from abroad. It doesn’t help that they also have history on their side as well.
| 532 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:53:22pm |
re: #531 laZardo
True, but the impact from that black stain on US & Iranian history lessens by the year. I think that Iran’s government will eventually fall. Now the question is: Will it fall like Tunisia or Libya.
If it went to Civil War, it would probably be the bloodiest war in the Middle East since World War I. At least.
| 533 |
austin_blue Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:54:57pm |
Ach, well, do what you will with MicheleR, the concern troll. She (?) is very skilled at putting her positions out there. And persistent, yes? As slippery as an eel. Like many of the old-timers, we have seen this before.
Have fun with she/him/it!
Night all. Sweet scaly dreams.
| 534 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:56:22pm |
re: #532 ProLifeLiberal
I’d wager something more along the lines of Egypt, with the Revolutionary Guard in place of the military. The high council have been fairly divided trying to figure out who truly succeeds Khomenei. The Guard can seize the opportunity when push comes to shove.
| 535 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 9:58:59pm |
re: #534 laZardo
But Iran has something that Egypt didn’t have.
An element of batshit insane pervading the government. The Egyptians had pragmatic dictatorialism.
Iranians got…whatever this is. Iran’s Government behaves closer to that of Qaddafi’s (nearly) former government.
| 536 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:02:14pm |
Night Lizards. Interesting day (for a Lurker).
| 537 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:17:11pm |
re: #526 ProLifeLiberal
The Iranian Government is gonna push to far eventually, maybe soon.
They’re denying people my age and younger the right to be themselves. Eventually, their will be a backlash. And the senile idiots up at the top won’t like it.
There’s this quote in the article:
“These events are a disgrace to our revolution. Our security forces and judiciary must stop the spreading of these morally corrupt actions,” said conservative lawmaker Hossein Ibrahimi, according to official media.
Wow. Squirt gun fights. Morally corrupt since Aug. 2011.
| 538 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:24:51pm |
re: #537 Slumbering Behemoth
Iran’s Government be Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Again, water fights are fun. So, in response, I say “Fuck You” to Ayatollah Khameini.
It is every individual’s responsibility to resist temptation. So this is stupid. Certainly many people like a good water fight for reasons other than fun.
But most people can resist the temptations that come up. The act that Khameini and his goons see this as a fantastic immorality shows that they have no self-control, sexually or otherwise.
| 539 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:31:50pm |
re: #538 ProLifeLiberal
It reminds me of that movie Footloose, only these are real kids who will be suffering some very real, possibly deadly consequences for just having some innocent fun.
I wish there were something I could do for them, but short of suddenly manifesting magical powers to alter reality, there is nothing I can really do.
| 540 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:33:37pm |
Hey Lizards
Anything exciting happen tonite?
| 541 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:35:10pm |
re: #540 ggt
Squirt gun fights are morally corrupt actions. It’s now official. And I haz a sad.
| 542 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:36:24pm |
re: #539 Slumbering Behemoth
The people my age over there will eventually do something about this. I don’t know when, but eventually, there will be either reform of government, collapse of government, or civil war.
On Yemen:
Wikipedia had sourced thing on the 5th saying:
Negotiations gathered pace on a UN-brokered transition deal along the lines of the earlier deal crafted by the GCC.
That could make things even worse for Al-Assad in Syria. Of course, Yemen collapsing at this point would make the Red Sea a nightmare to get out of.
In addition, Syria is just Iraq through the Looking Glass.
| 543 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:37:05pm |
re: #541 Slumbering Behemoth
I haz a pissed off.
There were some fantastic comments on the WSJ article.
| 544 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:40:08pm |
re: #541 Slumbering Behemoth
Squirt gun fights are morally corrupt actions. It’s now official. And I haz a sad.
I don’t agree. Squirt gun fights are only morally corrupt actions when non-combatants (me) get wet.
| 545 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:41:40pm |
How many green elephants will fit in a Volkswagon Beetle?
| 546 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:42:51pm |
re: #544 ggt
I don’t agree. Squirt gun fights are only morally corrupt actions when non-combatants (me) get wet.
COLLATERAL DAMPAGE!!
| 547 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:43:59pm |
In case anyone was wondering, it is 2011.
The civil lawsuit accuses seven white teenagers of deliberately setting out in the early morning hours of June 26 to go to Jackson to ‘go f—k with some n——rs.’ James C. Anderson was in a motel parking lot in Jackson when he was attacked. During the attack, one of his attackers shouted, ‘White power!,’ according to the lawsuit.
Southern Poverty Law Center filed suit today.
| 548 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:44:03pm |
re: #544 ggt
No, then you join the combat.
I suppose the equivalent of a suicide attacker in a Water Fight would be the guy who ties water balloons to himself, and hugs people.
| 549 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:44:20pm |
| 550 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:45:11pm |
re: #548 ProLifeLiberal
No, then you join the combat.
I suppose the equivalent of a suicide attacker in a Water Fight would be the guy who ties water balloons to himself, and hugs people.
I’m not the kind to mess with water.
| 551 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:46:12pm |
re: #548 ProLifeLiberal
No, then you join the combat.
I suppose the equivalent of a suicide attacker in a Water Fight would be the guy who ties water balloons to himself, and hugs people.
And the dictators would wield WMH.
Weapons of Mass Hydration.
| 552 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:47:10pm |
| 553 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:48:07pm |
| 554 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:50:19pm |
re: #551 laZardo
And the dictators would wield WMH.
Weapons of Mass Hydration.
And with world-wide proliferation of WMHs, MAD will be a growing problem.
Mutually Assured Drenching.
| 555 |
makeitstop Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:51:42pm |
Rick Parry gets all grabby and finger-wavy with Luap Nor.
This guy is gonna do something dumb, and it’s gonna happen in public.
| 556 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:51:49pm |
re: #554 Slumbering Behemoth
In the case of India or Bangladesh, they wouldn’t mind. So, right there, the theory falls apart. :D
| 557 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:52:41pm |
re: #555 makeitstop
Poor Huntsman in the Middle.
| 558 |
makeitstop Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:54:01pm |
re: #557 ProLifeLiberal
Poor Huntsman in the Middle.
I think he was trying to break it up. Ever the diplomat.
| 559 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:54:27pm |
re: #555 makeitstop
Rick Parry gets all grabby and finger-wavy with Luap Nor.
This guy is gonna do something dumb, and it’s gonna happen in public.
That screams “Caption Contest”.
“Look you twerp, you better not mention word one about that time you caught me ‘in flagrante’ with that young boy, or I’ll tell everyone about the time you preformed an abortion.”
| 560 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:58:25pm |
re: #555 makeitstop
Paul looks rather unconcerned about Perry’s threatening posture. I wonder what kind of ‘Can ‘o Whup-Ass’ old man Paul has tucked in his cloak.
| 561 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:59:02pm |
re: #557 ProLifeLiberal
Poor Huntsman in the Middle.
Just imagined a photoshop with him sitting beside Sad Keanu on a bench. THAT EXPRESSION.
| 562 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 10:59:25pm |
| 563 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:01:02pm |
Seriously… B Movie Villain.
Like a Jack Palance kind of warlord with magical powers and a thirst for virgin blood.
| 564 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:01:45pm |
re: #563 Slumbering Behemoth
Seriously… B Movie Villain.
Like a Jack Palance kind of warlord with magical powers and a thirst for virgin blood.
How does non-virginal status affect one’s blood?
fear of contaminants?
| 565 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:04:13pm |
re: #564 ggt
How does non-virginal status affect one’s blood?
fear of contaminants?
Nah. It’s just not B Movie evil enough to simply drink the blood of the de-virginized. Infants and children are the best to drink in order to convey the proper level of villainy.
| 566 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:07:04pm |
re: #556 ProLifeLiberal
In the case of India or Bangladesh, they wouldn’t mind. So, right there, the theory falls apart. :D
That’s just a failure to enforce U.N. recognized “No Dry Zones”.
/That’s a play on “No Fly Zones”, in case that wasn’t clear.
| 567 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:11:16pm |
re: #547 ggt
In case anyone was wondering, it is 2011.
Southern Poverty Law Center filed suit today.
And watch what happens to any Black person who speaks out against it.
How dare you dhimmis have your own personal reaction to our backlash, who do you think you are!!!
DO NOT WRITE THAT IN PURPLE!!!
| 568 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:12:54pm |
re: #566 Slumbering Behemoth
Everyone knows these No Dry Zones are really just fronts for the Super Soaker Corporation’s greedy interests.
| 569 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:13:38pm |
re: #565 Slumbering Behemoth
Nah. It’s just not B Movie evil enough to simply drink the blood of the de-virginized. Infants and children are the best to drink in order to convey the proper level of villainy.
What if it’s a “born-again” virgin?
| 570 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:16:55pm |
Sorry I didn’t stop back in like I’d planned. Life happened.
Good night.
| 571 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:18:28pm |
re: #569 ggt
What if it’s a “born-again” virgin?
Villainous warlords are not fooled by such blatantly phony notions.
| 572 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:20:15pm |
re: #571 Slumbering Behemoth
Villainous warlords are not fooled by such blatantly phony notions.
Yeah, neither is science…
:)
| 573 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:21:12pm |
re: #567 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
And watch what happens to any Black person who speaks out against it.
The attacks on reproductive rights make me spitting mad.
This kind of crime makes me so sad I can’t even cry.
| 574 |
goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:22:25pm |
re: #555 makeitstop
Rick Parry gets all grabby and finger-wavy with Luap Nor.
This guy is gonna do something dumb, and it’s gonna happen in public.
This image is awesome. Perry’s got the intense angry-frowny face mafioso look down. He’s either readying his force choke or reciting the story of Kaiser Soze, “and like that … he’s gone.”
| 575 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:22:43pm |
re: #572 ggt
Yeah, neither is science…
:)
I’ll be honest, though. If it’s part of some kinky role-play thing, I’d buy into it.
| 576 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:23:20pm |
re: #575 Slumbering Behemoth
I’ll be honest, though. If it’s part of some kinky role-play thing, I’d buy into it.
you slut.
:0
| 577 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:24:21pm |
re: #573 ggt
Life without parole, or the death penalty, for the murderous scum.
| 578 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:25:26pm |
| 579 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:27:19pm |
re: #578 Slumbering Behemoth
Of course I’m a slut. If I charged money, I’d be a whore.
You think you could find any buyers (or renters)?
| 580 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:30:11pm |
I had to work last night and tonite, so I missed the televised political events.
Anything worth noting in tonites?
| 581 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:30:33pm |
re: #579 ggt
You think you could find any buyers (or renters)?
Of course I could. Unfortunately, the kind of women who pay for man-whores look nothing like they do in the Hollywood movies. :shudders:
Besides, I firmly believe such things should be given freely.
| 582 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:31:28pm |
re: #581 Slumbering Behemoth
Of course I could. Unfortunately, the kind of women who pay for man-whores look nothing like they do in the Hollywood movies. :shudders:
Besides, I firmly believe such things should be given freely.
Heh, money is money …
;0
| 583 |
Dancing along the light of day Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:34:55pm |
re: #581 Slumbering Behemoth
*smooch*
Because I can & YOU WILL LIKE IT!
LOL!
| 584 |
makeitstop Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:36:11pm |
re: #580 ggt
I had to work last night and tonite, so I missed the televised political events.
Anything worth noting in tonites?
President O kicked butt.
| 585 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:36:20pm |
| 586 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:36:47pm |
| 587 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:36:58pm |
Goin’ to bed. Gonna drop some paperwork off at the local CSO over my EBT tomorrow morning. Nighty.
| 589 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:37:42pm |
re: #586 ggt
Free but Not Easy.
Giraffe’s have loooooong necks. You have to climb a ladder to kiss em’.
:)
Night again.
| 590 |
Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:38:44pm |
This song reflects my current relationship with the Republican Party (Plus it’s a great song by a fantastic and very underrated band).
| 591 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:41:08pm |
re: #580 ggt
I had to work last night and tonite, so I missed the televised political events.
Anything worth noting in tonites?
Hot presnit knocked it out of the park, made ugly confederates very sullen and seething.
| 592 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:42:30pm |
re: #573 ggt
The attacks on reproductive rights make me spitting mad.
This kind of crime makes me so sad I can’t even cry.
We have been dealing with these people since we have been here. Take heart, it gets better.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 8, 2011 11:42:37pm |
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boxhead Fri, Sep 9, 2011 12:33:31am |
re: #573 ggt
The attacks on reproductive rights make me spitting mad.
This kind of crime makes me so sad I can’t even cry.
It is like the extreme right have been emboldened by the lack of any serious backlash as they drop one racist, sexist, anythingist after another. They truly believe in a version of America that is out of some depressing dystopian novel. The large corps are equally been inspired to attack unions.
Not sure if any of you have heard this, but in Seattle, WA, a large grain port was built to ship USA grain to China. The dock is under control of the local Maritime Association. They in turn have a contract with the local Longshore union to handle all loading and unloading of ships. Well the owners of this new grain port demanded 12 hour shifts with no overtime. Anyone that is or knows a Longshoreman will tell you that most of the accidents occur due to fatigue. Any further more, why does that grain corp not have to follow the existing contract?
Well they outsourced the work and now both the full west coast and east coast unions are about to strike over this. Just what our Country needs.
And people think if there were no unions the corps would still play nice… LOL
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Sep 9, 2011 12:40:34am |
re: #594 boxhead
the extreme right […] truly believe in a version of America that is out of some depressing dystopian novel.
Conservatives are fundamentally miserable, self-loathing people. They hate themselves, and are particularly virulent against anyone who enjoys life without their approval.
To me, their self-induced miseries are hilarious. Yes, I have Schadenfreude about it.
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boxhead Fri, Sep 9, 2011 12:47:42am |
re: #595 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Conservatives are fundamentally miserable, self-loathing people. They hate themselves, and are particularly virulent against anyone who enjoys life without their approval.
Knowing quite a few, that I would call friends, up until a week ago I might have debated with you on the generality you have put forth. But, the other day at the VFW Post I belong to, one of my friends was drunk and just started to tear into me about what a commie I was, etc etc. I was/am pretty bummed both because I have never seen him that way, and because I am f*ing tired of hearing that shit. If I could get one of those folks to at least debate me in a sane manner, I would love it. But damn do they hate Obama. And hate is really not strong enough.
*sigh*
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:28:59am |
What a mess here.
Numerous roads and schools closed, lots of flooding.
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:33:41am |
Today (or Monday) may very well be the last day of a month of crazy work.
I want/need to get back to regularly scheduled life.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:35:00am |
re: #600 researchok
Today (or Monday) may very well be the last day of a month of crazy work.
I want/need to get back to regularly scheduled life.
What kind of crazy work?
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:38:29am |
re: #601 Varek Raith
What kind of crazy work?
Clients up in DC area.
I do behavioral stuff for them.
Which is a nice way of saying they pay me totell them what they already know.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:39:53am |
re: #602 researchok
Clients up in DC area.
I do behavioral stuff for them.
Which is a nice way of saying they pay me totell them what they already know.
Anthropology?
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:41:02am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:41:24am |
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:42:40am |
I tell my clients crazy people will do crazy things more often than not.
Some of them think I’m God.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:43:05am |
re: #607 researchok
I tell my clients crazy people will do crazy things more often than not.
Some of them think I’m God.
Freaking magic!
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:44:14am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:44:44am |
re: #607 researchok
I tell my clients crazy people will do crazy things more often than not.
Some of them think I’m God.
I got that feeling doing help desk some years back.
“My computer is broken”
“Is it plugged in?”
“!ZOMGBRILLIANT!”
“…”
:)
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:45:52am |
re: #610 Varek Raith
I got that feeling doing help desk some years back.
“My computer is broken”
“Is it plugged in?”
“!ZOMGBRILLIANT!”
“…”
:)
EXACTLY!!!
The last week or so I’ve been taking care of housekeeping matters, mostly, not so much work.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:46:33am |
The most common complaint I got?
“The shortcut on the desktop to Word IS GONE! I’M DOOMED!”
10 second fix.
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researchok Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:47:20am |
re: #612 Varek Raith
The most common complaint I got?
“The shortcut on the desktop to Word IS GONE! I’M DOOMED!”
10 second fix.
OK, that really made me laugh!
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:48:28am |
re: #613 researchok
OK, that really made me laugh!
The next was printers.
Though, that was understandable. Shitty HP drivers are shitty.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:48:42am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 2:57:24am |
Later gators.
Gonna catch the early bus to work.
Stupid flooding.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:44:09am |
No one was hurt, and nobody has been arrested. Most of the protesters returned to their union hall after cutting brake lines and spilling grain from car at the EGT terminal, Duscha said.
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:48:36am |
re: #620 Cannadian Club Akbar
Damn violent tea-baggers, we’re all gonna die, it’s never been this bad before…..
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:49:15am |
Hey Rogue, go ahead and shut off your TV and learn to love going antiquing on Sundays.
nfl.com
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:50:36am |
We’re all gonna die part 2:
Prince Charles warns of ‘sixth extinction event’
telegraph.co.uk
Mankind faces extinction, the Prince of Wales has warned, unless humans transform our lifestyles to stop mass consumption, run away climate change and destruction of wildlife.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:50:46am |
re: #621 RogueOne
Damn violent tea-baggers, we’re all gonna die, it’s never been this bad before…
I wonder how many people it took to cut a brake line. One to grab the tool box, one to grab the cutters, one to adjust the cutters, one to apply the cutters…….
| 625 |
RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:51:06am |
re: #622 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hey Rogue, go ahead and shut off your TV and learn to love going antiquing on Sundays.
[Link: www.nfl.com…]
How about you bite me?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:52:53am |
re: #625 RogueOne
How about you bite me?
As a Bucs fan, I know what it’s like to lose a good player. We generally lost 53 of them every year for 25 years.
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:53:28am |
re: #624 Cannadian Club Akbar
I wonder how many people it took to cut a brake line. One to grab the tool box, one to grab the cutters, one to adjust the cutters, one to apply the cutters…
Good point. Now we know the answer to the question “how many union members does it take to cut a brake line?” 500.
I’m curious as to why no one was arrested. Maybe they were waiting for the crowd to disperse before they charge anyone. It will be interesting to see how the judge that slapped them with a restraining order responds to this.
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:54:54am |
re: #626 Cannadian Club Akbar
As a Bucs fan, I know what it’s like to lose a good player. We generally lost 53 of them every year for 25 years.
The first game of the year vs. the lions should tell us if last year was a fluke with the bucs and if the lions are going to be any good. Should be a fun game. I might pull out my old bucs stuff and watch the game with my mom and brother.
| 629 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 3:58:18am |
re: #628 RogueOne
The game might be blacked out here. I haven’t looked to see if they sold out.
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:00:01am |
re: #629 Cannadian Club Akbar
The game might be blacked out here. I haven’t looked to see if they sold out.
If they don’t sell out against a divisional rival on opening day….that’s weak.
| 631 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:01:00am |
Remember the story of the two Bulgarian chicks who found hidden cameras in their apartment? They’re suing. (and should)
tampabay.com
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:01:01am |
re: #623 RogueOne
Yep. That part is true. If we continue at this pace with putting carbon into the atmosphere, the change is going to be so large that it’ll cause a mass extinction event.
Did you want to exercise your AGW-denial again or something?
| 633 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:02:59am |
re: #631 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hope they wind up with the dude’s restaurant and apartment building. Such a creep.
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:15:28am |
re: #632 Obdicut
Yep. That part is true. If we continue at this pace with putting carbon into the atmosphere, the change is going to be so large that it’ll cause a mass extinction event.
Did you want to exercise your AGW-denial again or something?
Can you provide me with the names of any scientists who say humanity is facing extinction? Or can you provide me with any evidence from the history of the planet where warming wiped out all life? Are you seriously going to stick with your 95% certainty that the warming has to be due only to human caused/released CO2 even after the CERN experiment showed the climate models are seriously flawed?
| 635 |
RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:18:08am |
re: #632 Obdicut
Before you get bent out of shape my contention has always been the 95% certainty figure is a joke, a bad joke. You don’t have to deny the science to realize that.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:22:29am |
re: #634 RogueOne
Can you provide me with the names of any scientists who say humanity is facing extinction?
Sure. First of all, do you understand what an extinction event is?
Or can you provide me with any evidence from the history of the planet where warming wiped out all life?
Ah, no, I see you don’t understand. An extinction event doesn’t wipe out all life, it wipes out large amounts of life.
And yes, the Paleocence-Eocene thermal maximum was a mass extinction event caused by warming.
Are you seriously going to stick with your 95% certainty that the warming has to be due only to human caused/released CO2 even after the CERN experiment showed the climate models are seriously flawed?
Heh. Sorry, but that’s bullshit.
The guy who did the experiment says this:
“At the moment, it actually says nothing about a possible cosmic-ray effect on clouds and climate, but it’s a very important first step”
It says ‘nothing’, and yet to you it’s proof positive. Weird.
Here’s the longer explanation of why it is not, in fact, the big thing that rips the lid of the global warming conspiracy:
The CERN experiment only tested one-third of one out of four requirements to blame global warming on cosmic rays. At least two of the other requirements (strengthening solar magnetic field, fewer cosmic rays reaching Earth) have not been met over the past 50 years. The lead scientist in the CERN CLOUD experiment explicitly stated that the experiment “actually says nothing about a possible cosmic-ray effect on clouds and climate.” Many other studies have concluded that cosmic rays play a minor role in cloud formation, and have not contributed in any significant way to the global warming over the past 50 years.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:24:03am |
re: #635 RogueOne
Before you get bent out of shape my contention has always been the 95% certainty figure is a joke, a bad joke. You don’t have to deny the science to realize that.
Yes, actually, that is denying science. Science makes predictions. The 95% figure is almost certainly much higher now, if you’re talking about the certainty that the current global warming episode is mainly driven by mankind’s release of CO2.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:25:39am |
Oh, and by the way, the Paleocence-Eocene extinction event happened as temperatures rose by 6c over 20,000 years. We’re facing a much, much faster rise than that. By an order of magnitude.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:25:48am |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:27:40am |
I’m going to go write some more on my novel. Rogue, if you have any other questions about climate change, that site— skeptical science— is a very good one for knocking down the standard denier myths. Thank you for pointing out the new CERN denier myth, I hadn’t run into that one yet.
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RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:33:33am |
re: #636 Obdicut
1. The contention by Prince Charles is mankind is facing extinction. I call bullshit. I’d like to see any scientific study that backs up that assertion.
2. The CERN experiment hasn’t been debunked by anyone. Their contention is
It is clear that the treatment of aerosol formation in climate models will need to be substantially revised, since all models assume that nucleation is caused by these vapours and water alone.
…which means we learned something we didn’t previously know. I think that’s called “science”.
3. Given all we know now that we didn’t know 5 years ago, knowing that what we think we know may not be entirely accurate, and knowing that there are still inputs that we don’t even know or understand yet….you still believe that it’s a 95% certainty that the warming has to be caused solely by human caused CO2? I find that fascinating.
| 643 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:39:31am |
re: #641 RogueOne
Do you understand what a mass extinction event is yet? If the earth faces a mass extinction event, it definitely poses a gigantic risk of human extinction as well.
2. The CERN experiment hasn’t been debunked by anyone. Their contention is
Do you understand that the CERN experiment does not make the claim of showing that anything is wrong in the climate models, and that numerous other studies have shown that cosmic rays are not respsonsible for warming? Did you read the skeptical science article?
What do you think the CERN study shows? Can you actually summarize it?
Given all we know now that we didn’t know 5 years ago, knowing that what we think we know may not be entirely accurate, and knowing that there are still inputs that we don’t even know or understand yet…you still believe that it’s a 95% certainty that the warming has to be caused solely by human caused CO2? I find that fascinating.
Yes, this is the standard denier position of ‘it’s all too uncertain’. It’s really not a new thing.
I really am checking out of the thread, but please, do yourself a favor and read the skeptical science website. It really does have answers to these standard denier positions.
And ask yourself why on earth, on a highly technical subject, you think that you’re somehow better-informed than 97% of climate scientists. Are there any other fields where you also feel 97% of scientists are wrong?
| 644 |
RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:47:21am |
re: #643 Obdicut
Do you understand what a mass extinction event is yet? If the earth faces a mass extinction event, it definitely poses a gigantic risk of human extinction as well.
I’m still waiting on the study that shows humanity faces extinction.
Do you understand that the CERN experiment does not make the claim of showing that anything is wrong in the climate models, and that numerous other studies have shown that cosmic rays are not respsonsible for warming? Did you read the skeptical science article?
What do you think the CERN study shows? Can you actually summarize it?
The phrase I gave you came straight from their study. Why do you think they’re lying?
Yes, this is the standard denier position of ‘it’s all too uncertain’. It’s really not a new thing.
I really am checking out of the thread, but please, do yourself a favor and read the skeptical science website. It really does have answers to these standard denier positions.
And ask yourself why on earth, on a highly technical subject, you think that you’re somehow better-informed than 97% of climate scientists. Are there any other fields where you also feel 97% of scientists are wrong?
….
The science doesn’t toss logic out the window. You cannot say, logically…. “We don’t have all the information and we don’t fully understand all the information we do have” and then say “We’re 95% certain one input is the cause of all the warming”. That doesn’t make sense.
| 645 |
RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:50:50am |
re: #644 RogueOne
The science doesn’t toss logic out the window. You cannot say, logically… “We don’t have all the information and we don’t fully understand all the information we do have” and then say “We’re 95% certain one input is the cause of all the warming”. That doesn’t make sense.
BTW, that doesn’t mean they’re wrong in their conclusions either, they could turn out to be 100% correct but there isn’t any way to know at this point with a 95% certainty.
| 646 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:53:55am |
re: #645 RogueOne
BTW, that doesn’t mean they’re wrong in their conclusions either, they could turn out to be 100% correct but there isn’t any way to know at this point with a 95% certainty.
If you went to see a doctor about your X-rays and he said “There is a 95% certainty that it’s cancer” would you be worried?
| 648 |
RogueOne Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:57:26am |
re: #646 Alouette
If you went to see a doctor about your X-rays and he said “There is a 95% certainty that it’s cancer” would you be worried?
x-rays are witchcraft. //
Apples/oranges. I’d be worried if our understanding of human physiology was anything like our understanding of our climate system.
BBIAB….
| 649 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:17:22am |
Oh, Gawd. I just saw my day.
Now, I am very thankful to be employed. But they’ve set up my appointments to maximize only one thing; the mileage and time that I have to spend in my car.
A 175 mile day turned into a 300 mile day… I wish they’d buy a fucking globe.
| 650 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:20:41am |
Mass extinctions don’t bother me. It’s just the slow process of people that I know on this world leaving it and new people replacing them who I don’t even know that bothers me.
One big bada-boom and everybody goes? Doesn’t bother me a bit.
| 651 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:26:34am |
re: #650 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mass extinctions don’t bother me. It’s just the slow process of people that I know on this world leaving it and new people replacing them who I don’t even know that bothers me.
One big bada-boom and everybody goes? Doesn’t bother me a bit.
PREPARE FOR THE NEW VIRUS OVERLORD!!!!
everydayhealth.com
| 652 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:33:40am |
Tried to upload my Penis-shaped Cloud picture… but it’s too big!
Heh.
| 653 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:35:34am |
re: #651 Cannadian Club Akbar
Of course it could happen. IMO, It has a better chance of taking us out than Climate Change.
Ain’t no adapting to Captain Tripps.
| 654 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:35:37am |
re: #652 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tried to upload my Penis-shaped Cloud picture… but it’s too big!
Heh.
“Images may appear larger then they actually are”.
| 655 |
thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:38:38am |
Morning Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. I’m sort of holding my breath at the moment - going to be taking my new-to-me old junker Volkswagen on a 350-mile trip to Chicago for the weekend. It’s been fine for the relatively short sprint to and from work, but this will be the first real long-haul road test, and it’s got me kind of nervous.
| 656 |
thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:39:47am |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, Gawd. I just saw my day.
Now, I am very thankful to be employed. But they’ve set up my appointments to maximize only one thing; the mileage and time that I have to spend in my car.
A 175 mile day turned into a 300 mile day… I wish they’d buy a fucking globe.
And this, my friends, is why computer scientists study the traveling salesman problem in the lofty towers of academia.
| 657 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:42:35am |
Amazon agrees to collect State Taxes in California.
So how has the morning been?
| 658 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:44:24am |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, Gawd. I just saw my day.
Now, I am very thankful to be employed. But they’ve set up my appointments to maximize only one thing; the mileage and time that I have to spend in my car.
A 175 mile day turned into a 300 mile day… I wish they’d buy a fucking globe.
| 660 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:45:01am |
re: #646 Alouette
If you went to see a doctor about your X-rays and he said “There is a 95% certainty that it’s cancer” would you be worried?
I’d see another doctor …
| 661 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:46:50am |
| 662 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:52:23am |
Milton Ellis, 69, was sleeping in his motorized wheelchair when he awoke to find Josephine Rebecca Smith, 22, of Pensacola on top of him, said police spokesman Mike Puetz.
She told Ellis she was a vampire and bit his face and neck. She bit off chunks of his face and part of his lip, Puetz said.
| 663 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:55:18am |
re: #662 Cannadian Club Akbar
Milton Ellis, 69, was sleeping in his motorized wheelchair when he awoke to find Josephine Rebecca Smith, 22, of Pensacola on top of him, said police spokesman Mike Puetz.
She told Ellis she was a vampire and bit his face and neck. She bit off chunks of his face and part of his lip, Puetz said.
[Link: www.tampabay.com…]
From the picture at the link: she is not sparkly.
| 664 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 5:59:32am |
re: #662 Cannadian Club Akbar
Milton Ellis, 69, was sleeping in his motorized wheelchair when he awoke to find Josephine Rebecca Smith, 22, of Pensacola on top of him, said police spokesman Mike Puetz.
She told Ellis she was a vampire and bit his face and neck. She bit off chunks of his face and part of his lip, Puetz said.
[Link: www.tampabay.com…]
Ellis, who needed stitches after the attack, has been arrested numerous times in Pinellas County for offenses including panhandling, disorderly intoxication, trespassing and possession of an open container.
Vampire weirdness aside, it is illegal to have an “open container” while driving a motorized wheelchair?
Any open container?
| 665 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:00:11am |
re: #663 Alouette
From the picture at the link: she is not sparkly.
This is what happens when you look for love at an abandon business.
| 666 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:00:57am |
re: #664 ggt
Vampire weirdness aside, it is illegal to have an “open container” while driving a motorized wheelchair?
Any open container?
Open container is beer, wine, booze.
| 667 |
thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:01:04am |
re: #664 ggt
Vampire weirdness aside, it is illegal to have an “open container” while driving a motorized wheelchair?
Any open container?
That’s police shorthand for getting arrested with an open beer in your car.
One wonders if that particular law also applies to the motorized wheelchair. Drunk driving one of those machines could be … interesting.
| 669 |
thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:02:08am |
re: #668 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To work!
Happy trails, FBV. Remember, you can discount the mileage on your taxes.
| 670 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:02:40am |
re: #667 thedopefishlives
That’s police shorthand for getting arrested with an open beer in your car.
One wonders if that particular law also applies to the motorized wheelchair. Drunk driving one of those machines could be … interesting.
It said he was arrested for open container, not driving the wheel chair with the open container. He could have been drinking a beer outside a convenience store, which is illegal.
| 671 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:03:34am |
re: #670 Cannadian Club Akbar
It said he was arrested for open container, not driving the wheel chair with the open container. He could have been drinking a beer outside a convenience store, which is illegal.
Really? I had no idea.
| 672 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:04:58am |
Back to vampire wierdness. So what category of the DSM-II does playing a vampire during while blacked-out does this fall under?
| 673 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:06:25am |
re: #671 ggt
Really? I had no idea.
It keeps people from hanging around a business drinking. Because then people think they have a “hang out”.
| 674 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:07:26am |
re: #672 ggt
Back to vampire wierdness. So what category of the DSM-II does playing a vampire during while blacked-out does this fall under?
DSM-II?
| 675 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:09:37am |
This is beyond belief. Brutality isn’t a strong enough word.
| 676 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:09:56am |
Gah. The internet connection in this motel sucks.
Good morning Lizardia in any case. Last day of my vacation and I’m hanging out in a suburb of Pittsburgh for the morning. Lunch planned for a Scottish pub in the city, and then meeting friends this evening for more drinking. :)
| 677 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:11:05am |
| 678 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:11:54am |
re: #673 Cannadian Club Akbar
It keeps people from hanging around a business drinking. Because then people think they have a “hang out”.
I figured that after I thought about it. Makes sense.
Since I quit drinking, I don’t notice such rules anymore …
| 679 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:12:31am |
re: #676 oaktree
Gah. The internet connection in this motel sucks.
Good morning Lizardia in any case. Last day of my vacation and I’m hanging out in a suburb of Pittsburgh for the morning. Lunch planned for a Scottish pub in the city, and then meeting friends this evening for more drinking. :)
Don’t hang-out at a convenience store.
But have fun :)
| 680 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:13:03am |
re: #679 ggt
Don’t hang-out at a convenience store.
But have fun :)
And don’t pick up any Vampire chicks.
| 681 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:14:00am |
| 682 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:14:15am |
re: #677 ggt
I don’t think she has much of a defense if she’s gonna play the crazy card. I honestly think they were both drunk. Idiots.
| 683 |
thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:15:37am |
re: #670 Cannadian Club Akbar
It said he was arrested for open container, not driving the wheel chair with the open container. He could have been drinking a beer outside a convenience store, which is illegal.
I had no idea either. Most places I’ve been, the open container laws only apply to vehicles.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:17:31am |
re: #682 Cannadian Club Akbar
I don’t think she has much of a defense if she’s gonna play the crazy card. I honestly think they were both drunk. Idiots.
But she said she had no idea how she got there and got undressed. Sounds like she was so drunk she blacked-out and turned into Elvira or something. Bizarre.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:18:05am |
re: #683 thedopefishlives
I had no idea either. Most places I’ve been, the open container laws only apply to vehicles.
The pisser in my Florida county is right now instead of making you pour out the beer, drink, whatever, they’ll now actually take you to jail.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:19:01am |
re: #685 Cannadian Club Akbar
The pisser in my Florida county is right now instead of making you pour out the beer, drink, whatever, they’ll now actually take you to jail.
Before they would just write you a ticket. Forgot to add that.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:19:07am |
Monster Puppy trapped himself in the bathroom—twice now.
He goes in and closes the door behind him —then cries.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:19:38am |
re: #685 Cannadian Club Akbar
The pisser in my Florida county is right now instead of making you pour out the beer, drink, whatever, they’ll now actually take you to jail.
I can see that with the tourism industry and all the people who go “South” for the winter …
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thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:21:19am |
re: #685 Cannadian Club Akbar
The pisser in my Florida county is right now instead of making you pour out the beer, drink, whatever, they’ll now actually take you to jail.
Heh, yeah. I just looked it up on Google and there’s only 7 states that have no restrictions on open alcoholic containers in public. I never knew. Good thing I’m not a drinker.
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thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:22:36am |
re: #687 ggt
Monster Puppy trapped himself in the bathroom—twice now.
He goes in and closes the door behind him —then cries.
My feline overlord used to do that. After we started hosting guests in the basement, though, we keep the feline overlords locked out of the bathroom. No more doors for them to shut behind themselves.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:23:39am |
re: #689 thedopefishlives
Heh, yeah. I just looked it up on Google and there’s only 7 states that have no restrictions on open alcoholic containers in public. I never knew. Good thing I’m not a drinker.
In Florida, long ago, people in a car could drink, but not the driver. But if getting pulled, the driver would just hand their beer to a passenger.
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:23:49am |
This is from the press release in the CERN Cloud study:
“it is premature to conclude that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate;”
Saying that the treatment of the role of aerosols and cosmic rays needs revision is different from saying that the phenomena they studies render climate models substantially in erros.
If you read more of what the authors wrote in the second CERN cloud study - you will find it to be very different from the first CERN cloud study.
You really should read this before you draw any conclusions about what the CERN Cloud study does and doesn’t show.
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:24:12am |
Greets and saluts from the recovering NYC metro area. Drying out from all the rains and floods, but the problems are dire in parts of NJ but especially in PA and upstate NY along the Susquehanna River, which is seeing record flooding once again.
Ground Zero (or as the PANY wants to refer to it - the World Trade Center - is now ringed by tons of police and checkpoints abound. Media outlets are now reporting from the rooftop of the World Financial Center overlooking the WTC Memorial, which opens to the public on the 12th (this Monday) but which requires obtaining a free timed ticket for entry since the maximum number of people that can view the memorial at one time is 1,500 due to the ongoing construction surrounding the site.
Add to that the credible threat of an al Qaeda attack in NYC or DC and law enforcement is definitely ramping up their presence in both visible and hidden means. With Presidents Bush and Obama attending ceremonies Sunday, they’re not taking any chances.
The Flight 93 Memorial is being dedicated on Saturday out in Shanksville, PA.
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Interesting Times Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:28:05am |
re: #692 Talking Point Detective
This is from the press release in the CERN Cloud study:
Saying that the treatment of the role of aerosols and cosmic rays needs revision is different from saying that the phenomena they studies render climate models substantially in erros.
Herp derp, if we’re not 100% sure about aerosols and cosmic rays, it automatically means everything else climate scientists say about greenhouse gases is wrong. Drill baby drill!!!1!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:28:38am |
Alrighty, gotta get to my “shovel ready” temp job. And by “shovel ready” I mean I show up and the dude says “CCA, you shovel is ready”. We’re putting in a new deck, moving a hot tub and its plumbing….See ya’ll tonight.:)
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:28:52am |
re: #644 RogueOne
If the temperature warms enough, there will be a mass exctinction. Humanity is just another species— actually, we’re a very vulnerable species, since we have a low rate of adaptation to change. So, every study which shows that the current pace of warming will raise temperatures by a significant amount is a study that shows humanity faces extinction.
as I showed you, a 6c rise in global temperature was enough to cause a mass extinction event. We’ve already risen at least .8C in the past hundred and twenty years, and the rate is continuing to accelerate.
By the way, you asked for a citation for a time when warming had caused a mass extinction, I gave one and you never acknowledged it. If you’re going to ask for information, why ignore it when it’s then provided? I know it upsets your denierism, but you can’t just ignore facts. It makes you look pitiful.
The phrase I gave you came straight from their study. Why do you think they’re lying?
Heh. Yet somehow you ignore this phrase:
At the moment, it actually says nothing about a possible cosmic-ray effect on clouds and climate, but it’s a very important first step
Selectively taking quotes out of context is a classic denier move, but it kind of gets undercut when the scientists in charge of the study say that it says nothing about climate. In addition, for some reason you’re paying attention only to this study— while ignoring what it actually claims— and steadfastly looking past all the other studies that have shown that cosmic rays are not the explanation for global warming.
The science doesn’t toss logic out the window. You cannot say, logically… “We don’t have all the information and we don’t fully understand all the information we do have” and then say “We’re 95% certain one input is the cause of all the warming”. That doesn’t make sense.
Sure it does. I have no idea why you’re taking this incredibly lame approach to denierism.
We don’t understand everything about physics. Not by a long shot. We don’t understand precisely things like evaporation, even, or metal fatigue, or a host of other things. We don’t understand gravity. And yet we can make highly, highly confident predictions about things involving all of these.
Again: Why do you feel that you’re smarter than 97% of climate scientists? Why do you feel you know their field better than them?
Until you can give anything like a convincing answer to that, you’re just another guy running through standard denier arguments. It’s not new, it’s not impressive, and, frankly, it’s pretty half-assed.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:31:51am |
re: #684 ggt
But she said she had no idea how she got there and got undressed. Sounds like she was so drunk she blacked-out and turned into Elvira or something. Bizarre.
Maybe in addition to ingesting adult beverages she was also taking some drug like Sonata. That is some crazy shit.
Rarely, after taking this drug, people have gotten out of bed and driven vehicles while not fully awake (“sleep-driving”). People have also sleepwalked, prepared/eaten food, made phone calls, or had sex while not fully awake. Often, these people do not remember these events. This problem can be dangerous to you or to others. If you find out that you have done any of these activities after taking this medication, tell your doctor immediately. Your risk is increased if you use alcohol or other medications that can make you drowsy while taking zaleplon.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:33:03am |
re: #697 Alouette
If you wake me up and I’m only up for half an hour or so I won’t remember anything that happens. My roomates long ago used to wake me up to cook for them when they got in after drinking and I wouldn’t remember anything about it the next morning.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:35:20am |
re: #698 Obdicut
If you wake me up and I’m only up for half an hour or so I won’t remember anything that happens. My roomates long ago used to wake me up to cook for them when they got in after drinking and I wouldn’t remember anything about it the next morning.
Zedushka takes Sonata and he has had episodes where he sleep-eats, sleep-smokes, and sleep-watches TV. No sleep-driving or sleep-sex, though. The sleep-smoking is scary because he has burned holes in his pajamas.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:36:07am |
re: #547 ggt
In case anyone was wondering, it is 2011.
Southern Poverty Law Center filed suit today.
Yep, it’s 2011. I’ve been sad about this since I opened my email last night and read the SPLC digest.
It seems, according to the research, that hate crimes have been increasing. (still googling to find the information I read on that —grr)
We have made so many advancements, and fallen so behind…at the same time.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:38:03am |
re: #693 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the recovering NYC metro area. Drying out from all the rains and floods, but the problems are dire in parts of NJ but especially in PA and upstate NY along the Susquehanna River, which is seeing record flooding once again.
Ground Zero (or as the PANY wants to refer to it - the World Trade Center - is now ringed by tons of police and checkpoints abound. Media outlets are now reporting from the rooftop of the World Financial Center overlooking the WTC Memorial, which opens to the public on the 12th (this Monday) but which requires obtaining a free timed ticket for entry since the maximum number of people that can view the memorial at one time is 1,500 due to the ongoing construction surrounding the site.
Add to that the credible threat of an al Qaeda attack in NYC or DC and law enforcement is definitely ramping up their presence in both visible and hidden means. With Presidents Bush and Obama attending ceremonies Sunday, they’re not taking any chances.
The Flight 93 Memorial is being dedicated on Saturday out in Shanksville, PA.
Very cool about Shanksville. We visited the site a few years ago —the make-shift memorial was very moving.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:38:22am |
Sonata (Zalepelon) is supposed to be a sleeping pill, but it doesn’t actually help you sleep. What it does is make you do a bunch of stuff that you totally don’t remember.
I told Zedushka that he must get his prescription changed to good old Ambien.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:40:30am |
re: #702 Alouette
Sonata (Zalepelon) is supposed to be a sleeping pill, but it doesn’t actually help you sleep. What it does is make you do a bunch of stuff that you totally don’t remember.
I told Zedushka that he must get his prescription changed to good old Ambien.
My mom has switched to over the country —Motrim PM. Ibuprophen plus Benedryl (dyphenhydromine sp???).
She has been doing fine on it.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:43:26am |
re: #703 ggt
My mom has switched to over the
countrycounter —Motrim PM. Ibuprophen plus Benedryl (dyphenhydromine sp???).She has been doing fine on it.
Ahhh, I didn’t get to the pencil fast enough.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:46:04am |
re: #703 ggt
My mom has switched to over the
countrycounter —Motrim PM. Ibuprophen plus Benedryl (dyphenhydromine sp???).She has been doing fine on it.
Good for your mom, but some people are allergic to Ibuprofen.
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:51:16am |
re: #644 RogueOne
You cannot say, logically… “We don’t have all the information and we don’t fully understand all the information we do have” and then say “We’re 95% certain one input is the cause of all the warming”. That doesn’t make sense.
Well, actually, that would be wrong. You can logically say that you can’t be 100% certain because you don’t have all the information, but you have enough information to be 95% certain.
But getting past that - (although Ludwig says differently) from what I’ve seen the IPCC is saying that there is something on the order of 90% certainty that CO2 emissions are 51% likely to be causing anomalous warming. I don’t think that any climate scientists are claiming 100% certainty here - so the question I would have is whether your argument there is a straw man?
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:52:42am |
Monster Puppy learns to go into the bathroom, close the door behind him, but doesn’t do his business. I let him out, sit down and he then goes to the back door and cries.
I’m sensing a disconnect here …
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:52:52am |
In yet another sign that you can’t please everyone - people are grumbling that there were no clergy invited to invoke prayers at the WTC ceremonies on 9/11, that rescue personnel were not invited to attend b/c there isn’t space sufficient for them to attend, etc.
Oh, and the usual suspects are still riled up about the proposed Cordoba House/Park51 center, even though it’s years from ever seeing construction because financing hasn’t been secured.
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:53:38am |
re: #706 Talking Point Detective
Sorry - my bad, no coffee yet after a long day/night of pumping water out of my basement for the second time this month. You didn’t say anyone claimed 100% certainty.
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:55:58am |
re: #706 Talking Point Detective
Wow - I really do need coffee. Let me re-write the other part of that post also.
But getting past that - (although Ludwig says differently) from what I’ve seen the IPCC is saying that there is something on the order of 90% certainty that CO2 emissions are causing at least 51% of recent, anomalous warming.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:57:17am |
re: #708 lawhawk
In yet another sign that you can’t please everyone - people are grumbling that there were no clergy invited to invoke prayers at the WTC ceremonies on 9/11, that rescue personnel were not invited to attend b/c there isn’t space sufficient for them to attend, etc.
Oh, and the usual suspects are still riled up about the proposed Cordoba House/Park51 center, even though it’s years from ever seeing construction because financing hasn’t been secured.
From the link:
For a decade, New York City has conducted the same ritualized ceremony on each anniversary of the attacks. The heart of the ritual has been the reading aloud of the names of the victims. In 2003, the victims’ children read the names; in 2004, it was their parents; and in 2007, the honor went to first responders.
The names are read in a continuous stream for hours, with four breaks to allow moments of silence at the times when hijacked planes struck the two World Trade Center towers, and when each tower fell.
That’s so inspirational and awe-inspiring.
//
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darthstar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:58:23am |
re: #703 ggt
My mom has switched to over the counter—Motrim PM. Ibuprophen plus Benedryl (dyphenhydromine sp???).
She has been doing fine on it.
Americans are over-medicated in general. I have facebook ‘friends’ who sit up at night complaining that their Ambien isn’t working (turn off the fucking computer and lights and lie down). I understand that insomnia sucks…the chemical cures aren’t much better.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:58:34am |
re: #708 lawhawk
In yet another sign that you can’t please everyone - people are grumbling that there were no clergy invited to invoke prayers at the WTC ceremonies on 9/11, that rescue personnel were not invited to attend b/c there isn’t space sufficient for them to attend, etc.
Oh, and the usual suspects are still riled up about the proposed Cordoba House/Park51 center, even though it’s years from ever seeing construction because financing hasn’t been secured.
Really, really sucks rescue personnel aren’t invited. If I were a politician or otherwise superfluous personnel, I’d give-up my spot to a fireman. There might not be a memorial if not for them.
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Interesting Times Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:59:44am |
re: #709 Talking Point Detective
Sorry - my bad, no coffee yet after a long day/night of pumping water out of my basement for the second time this month. You didn’t say anyone claimed 100% certainty.
But he - and nearly all other deniers - seem to push the argument that, unless we can be 100% certain CO2 from human activities is causing 100% of the warming, there’s no reason to take any action to fix the problem.
By the way, you can edit your own posts now by clicking the “pencil” icon, though this function expires two minutes after the comment is posted.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:00:16am |
re: #712 darthstar
Americans are over-medicated in general. I have facebook ‘friends’ who sit up at night complaining that their Ambien isn’t working (turn off the fucking computer and lights and lie down). I understand that insomnia sucks…the chemical cures aren’t much better.
Depends on the person too!
I’ve never had a problem sleeping, so I really don’t understand how people suffer with it.
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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:00:54am |
Someone on Weather Underground got in trouble for posting the following:
Fun fact: numerous locations—including New Orleans, Jackson (MS), Mobile (AL), Harrisburg (PA), and Apalachin (NY) have seen more rain from Lee and his remnants since last weekend than Houston, Texas, has received in all of 2011. Not to rub it in or anything.
I have to admit that I have been rather nasty about the crisis in Texas, been gloating that Perry’s Prayers didn’t work.
I’m still seething about 7/22, and because of this, I am far more bitter towards conservatives than I was on 7/21 or before that.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:01:18am |
re: #712 darthstar
Americans are over-medicated in general. I have facebook ‘friends’ who sit up at night complaining that their Ambien isn’t working (turn off the fucking computer and lights and lie down). I understand that insomnia sucks…the chemical cures aren’t much better.
When you take Ambien you are supposed to get in bed and let it do its work. If you walk around or do stuff it will not work. Sleep specialists recommend turning off the computer at least 1/2 an hour before you go to sleep to give your brain a chance to wind down. Watching TV or a movie, or reading, is a better pre-sleep activity since it’s not interactive.
| 718 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:02:20am |
Also, getting up early in the morning, and exercising, is a great sleep aid!
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darthstar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:02:52am |
re: #715 ggt
Depends on the person too!
I’ve never had a problem sleeping, so I really don’t understand how people suffer with it.
I only have a problem sleeping if I’m fucking up somewhere else in my life..stressing at work, behind on bills, etc…
| 720 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:02:58am |
re: #718 Alouette
Also, getting up early in the morning, and exercising, is a great sleep aid!
Bathtub!
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:04:22am |
re: #719 darthstar
I only have a problem sleeping if I’m fucking up somewhere else in my life..stressing at work, behind on bills, etc…
Well, I shouldn’t say NEVER. Last year when my Dear Ole Dad was sick and then passed, I didn’t sleep and started losing weight. Doctor put me on an anti-anxiety med (short term)—worked wonders.
All is good now.
‘cept I miss my Dad.
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:05:00am |
re: #713 ggt
I agree that some kind of accommodation should have been made for rescue personnel and those who helped with the relief and reconstruction efforts as well. Space is rather limited with all the construction ongoing, but these firefighters and police (NYPD and PAPD) gave their lives trying to save thousands of people and should have had some representatives attending even if all couldn’t. They could have made some kind of arrangement to close off part of West Street to enable rescue personnel to attend, but with the Presidents in town, they need that route to provide for his motorcade and for security personnel.
Having been in NYC and seeing the collapse and the aftermath up close and personal (walking across the Manhattan Bridge b/c everything was closed and then enduring the smell of the fires for weeks therafter), I don’t think I can bear to watch the ceremonies and events and had I been invited, I would have gladly given up my seat to someone who was more deserving.
It cuts too close to home and while I always report on this stuff and have been writing about Ground Zero pretty much since day 1, I don’t think there’s more I can add by watching this. All my writing has been cathartic and a way to deal with the horrors from that day. Focusing on the rebuilding gave me something positive to look forward to.
| 723 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:08:28am |
re: #722 lawhawk
I agree that some kind of accommodation should have been made for rescue personnel and those who helped with the relief and reconstruction efforts as well. Space is rather limited with all the construction ongoing, but these firefighters and police (NYPD and PAPD) gave their lives trying to save thousands of people and should have had some representatives attending even if all couldn’t. They could have made some kind of arrangement to close off part of West Street to enable rescue personnel to attend, but with the Presidents in town, they need that route to provide for his motorcade and for security personnel.
Having been in NYC and seeing the collapse and the aftermath up close and personal (walking across the Manhattan Bridge b/c everything was closed and then enduring the smell of the fires for weeks therafter), I don’t think I can bear to watch the ceremonies and events and had I been invited, I would have gladly given up my seat to someone who was more deserving.
It cuts too close to home and while I always report on this stuff and have been writing about Ground Zero pretty much since day 1, I don’t think there’s more I can add by watching this. All my writing has been cathartic and a way to deal with the horrors from that day. Focusing on the rebuilding gave me something positive to look forward to.
The Memorial and rebuilding is important symbolism for the country. As usual, the people who actually did the work are overlooked in favor of the “big wigs” du jour. Some form of formal represntation would be a positive thing. A “non big wig” from each serivce, firefighters, police, rescue dogs, paramedics—etc.
| 724 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:11:58am |
Eric Cantor: We’ll pass some of Obama’s jobs proposals
I have my doubts.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:13:05am |
A lot of the anti-histamines that used to make people drowsy aren’t on the market anymore in favor of the new generation that last 12-24 hours and don’t make one drowsy.
They could be a safer alternative than sleep-aids for some people.
| 726 |
darthstar Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:13:39am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
Eric Cantor: We’ll pass some of Obama’s jobs proposals
I have my doubts.
I think he meant to say “We’ll pass on Obama’s job proposals.” Cantor is a power hungry turd-eating moron. Don’t trust him for a second to do the right thing for the country.
| 727 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:14:28am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
Eric Cantor: We’ll pass some of Obama’s jobs proposals
I have my doubts.
“It’s my hope that we can work together to end the uncertainty facing families and small businesses, and create a better environment for long-term economic growth and private-sector job creation,” the Ohio Republican said in a statement Thursday night.
Read more: politico.com
I have zero confidence in this Congress’s ability to end uncertainty facing the country.
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thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:14:35am |
re: #726 darthstar
I think he meant to say “We’ll pass on Obama’s job proposals.” Cantor is a power hungry turd-eating moron. Don’t trust him for a second to do the right thing for the country.
He’ll allow Obama’s job proposals to pass, as long as the President agrees to make job cuts elsewhere to make up for the increase./
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blueraven Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:15:07am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
Eric Cantor: We’ll pass some of Obama’s jobs proposals
I have my doubts.
If they do, they will be demanding something unreasonable in return.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:15:18am |
re: #728 thedopefishlives
He’ll allow Obama’s job proposals to pass, as long as the President agrees to make job cuts elsewhere to make up for the increase./
I thought he already made the job cuts in government?
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:16:12am |
re: #726 darthstar
I think he meant to say “We’ll pass on Obama’s job proposals.” Cantor is a power hungry turd-eating moron. Don’t trust him for a second to do the right thing for the country.
It’s a fight of testosterone, not intellect—unfortunately.
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thedopefishlives Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:18:08am |
re: #730 ggt
I thought he already made the job cuts in government?
No, no, that’s not good enough. Cantor won’t rest until every single American* is unemployed.
*= Except for himself, of course.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:22:03am |
re: #732 thedopefishlives
No, no, that’s not good enough. Cantor won’t rest until every single American* is unemployed.
*= Except for himself, of course.
Break the country in order to fix it?
Or remake it into a Dominionists Utopia.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:23:50am |
re: #729 blueraven
If they do, they will be demanding something unreasonable in return.
I think that’s the big problem. There’s nothing Obama can give them in exchange. Abolishing the EPA, Social Security, etc are out of the question.
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:27:10am |
re: #716 ProLifeLiberal
I have to admit that I have been rather nasty about the crisis in Texas, been gloating that Perry’s Prayers didn’t work.
That’s interesting. I suppose that at some level that’s true. Then again, when someone thinks that prayer is a policy with respect to climate, how should we react.
Here’s what’s interesting. Perry thinks that human activity can’t affect climate, but he thinks that humans praying can change the weather.
| 736 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:30:47am |
re: #717 Alouette
When you take Ambien you are supposed to get in bed and let it do its work. If you walk around or do stuff it will not work. Sleep specialists recommend turning off the computer at least 1/2 an hour before you go to sleep to give your brain a chance to wind down. Watching TV or a movie, or reading, is a better pre-sleep activity since it’s not interactive.
Logic puzzles. They sort out my ADD brain and let me go to sleep.
| 737 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:31:25am |
re: #725 ggt
A lot of the anti-histamines that used to make people drowsy aren’t on the market anymore in favor of the new generation that last 12-24 hours and don’t make one drowsy.
They could be a safer alternative than sleep-aids for some people.
I used to take Benadryl as a sleep aid but they must have changed the formula or something because it totally does not make me drowsy the way it used to.
| 738 |
allegro Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:33:32am |
re: #725 ggt
A lot of the anti-histamines that used to make people drowsy aren’t on the market anymore in favor of the new generation that last 12-24 hours and don’t make one drowsy.
They could be a safer alternative than sleep-aids for some people.
The new generation of antihistimines don’t work for shit, sez one who suffers from occasional extreme hay fever. The best on the market ever was Triaminicin that worked great and did not result in drowsiness that couldn’t be overcome with a cup of coffee. I depended on that for a couple of decades. They put it “behind the counter” due to the meth stuff and now it’s gone completely.
Unisom, or its Walgreens cheaper equivalent Wal-som, is pure Benadryl. It’s been used in hospitals for years as sleeping pills.
| 739 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:33:42am |
| 740 |
allegro Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:35:54am |
re: #727 ggt
I have zero confidence in this Congress’s ability to end uncertainty facing the country.
Yet I have total confidence that the Republicans will absolutely do anything they can to continue the uncertainty pain demise facing the country.
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makeitstop Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:40:05am |
re: #726 darthstar
I think he meant to say “We’ll pass on Obama’s job proposals.” Cantor is a power hungry turd-eating moron. Don’t trust him for a second to do the right thing for the country.
I loved reading this quote from Cantor this morning:
“The message [from the president] was: either accept my package as it is, or I will take it to the American people. I would say that that’s the wrong approach. What we’re here to do is try to transcend differences, not let them get in the way in the areas we can make progress on.”
Really, asswipe? You and your buddies wanted to crash the fucking economy rather than do the right thing a couple of months ago, and you refused any sort of compromise. Now you want compromise?
That quote tells me that Cantor and Boehner know they got their asses cold kicked last night, and the ass-kicking isn’t over yet. Obama put them in a spot where they simply can’t run the same game they’ve been running in this Congress, because the blame will (rightly) land in their laps where it belongs.
Choke on it, Republicans. And get to fucking work.
| 742 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:41:14am |
re: #741 makeitstop
I loved reading this quote from Cantor this morning:
Really, asswipe? You and your buddies wanted to crash the fucking economy rather than do the right thing a couple of months ago, and you refused any sort of compromise. Now you want compromise?
That quote tells me that Cantor and Boehner know they got their asses cold kicked last night, and the ass-kicking isn’t over yet. Obama put them in a spot where they simply can’t run the same game they’ve been running in this Congress, because the blame will (rightly) land in their laps where it belongs.
Choke on it, Republicans. And get to fucking work.
Cantor’s a whiny little shit. I am embarrassed that he’s the most high ranking Congress member from my state. I missed the speech last night though. Anything good?
| 743 |
makeitstop Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:44:43am |
re: #742 HappyWarrior
Cantor’s a whiny little shit. I am embarrassed that he’s the most high ranking Congress member from my state. I missed the speech last night though. Anything good?
I was listening to it here to start, then had to go out and heard the end of the speech in my truck. It was definitely up there with the best speeches Obama has given since becoming Candidate Obama.
Washington Monthly Speech Link
You have to watch it to see for yourself how well-written and on-point it was.
| 746 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:47:58am |
re: #738 allegro
The new generation of antihistimines don’t work for shit, sez one who suffers from occasional extreme hay fever. The best on the market ever was Triaminicin that worked great and did not result in drowsiness that couldn’t be overcome with a cup of coffee. I depended on that for a couple of decades. They put it “behind the counter” due to the meth stuff and now it’s gone completely.
Unisom, or its Walgreens cheaper equivalent Wal-som, is pure Benadryl. It’s been used in hospitals for years as sleeping pills.
I still find Chlortrimaton works the best. I can order the 12-hour version from the pharmacy and it is CHEAP. I’ve been taking it so long, it doesn’t make me drowsy at all. It can knock you out, tho if you aren’t used to it.
Walmart, I’ve been told, still carries some of the older ones because they are so cheap. You have to ask the pharmacist if you don’t see it on the shelf.
Pharmacists, I’ve found, can be uber helpful, if you get a manager or someone who actually cares about doing their job.
| 747 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:48:35am |
| 748 |
allegro Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:49:03am |
re: #741 makeitstop
I loved reading this quote from Cantor this morning:
Really, asswipe? You and your buddies wanted to crash the fucking economy rather than do the right thing a couple of months ago, and you refused any sort of compromise. Now you want compromise?
That quote tells me that Cantor and Boehner know they got their asses cold kicked last night, and the ass-kicking isn’t over yet. Obama put them in a spot where they simply can’t run the same game they’ve been running in this Congress, because the blame will (rightly) land in their laps where it belongs.
Choke on it, Republicans. And get to fucking work.
It’s happening already, to my joy. As I was out doing our nightly dog walking thing with my low-information-lean-real-right neighbor, she was expressing total disgust for the GOPers. First time I have ever heard her do this. She has talked about Congress being worthless before but never called out the GOP by name, zeroing in on the problem.
| 749 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:49:38am |
Fox Republican News. Can it be anymore obvious.
Notice how Hannity, the scumbag, calls Obama “the anointed one.”
Liberals and Democrats need to wake up and stop playing defense and start playing offense.
| 750 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:49:43am |
| 752 |
lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:52:09am |
re: #743 makeitstop
I’m not so sure that the speech will end up having much of an effect. The GOP in the House may feel some pressure to get something done, but the leadership and Cantor in particular, are going to fight pretty much anything proposed by Obama simply because it’s Obama that made the proposal. I think we’ll see more gridlock and may see one or two components of the plan passed in piecemeal fashion but the grand moves to improve infrastructure will fall by the wayside (again), even though that would improve long term economic competitiveness.
I’m not sure how the SS payroll tax adjustments will shake out and it’s not going to significantly improve the job situation even though it would mean more money in people’s wallets.
The main part of the plan is an extension and expansion of the cut in payroll taxes, worth $240 billion, under which the tax paid by employees would be cut in half through 2012. Some businesses would see a cut in their payroll taxes. There would also be a tax holiday for hiring new employees, but how much of this will spur companies to expand when you’ve got such tight credit and problems in Europe continue to spillover to the US and the markets.
| 753 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:53:17am |
re: #751 iceweasel
Bummer! How’s your farting cat?
Hey! How’s your new job? best of luck to you
Cat is asleep. She is quite angry with all the rain an such. She growls out the window. The other cat is MEH. Lol.
As for work, it’s great. While only part time, it’s quite nice for me.
| 754 |
iceweasel Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:54:49am |
re: #753 Varek Raith
Cat is asleep. She is quite angry with all the rain an such. She growls out the window. The other cat is MEH. Lol.
As for work, it’s great. While only part time, it’s quite nice for me.
That’s great! Glad to hear it.
There is NO RAIN here for the moment— we had some this morning— and Jimmah’s dad is visiting us, which is nice. Making beef stew for dinner later.
| 755 |
FemNaziBitch Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:55:16am |
I have to start my day all!
Have a great one!
| 756 |
iceweasel Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:55:29am |
re: #749 Gus 802
FoxRepublican News. Can it be anymore obvious.Notice how Hannity, the scumbag, calls Obama “the anointed one.”
Liberals and Democrats need to wake up and stop playing defense and start playing offense.
I don’t think Democrats know how to play offense.
| 757 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:55:35am |
re: #754 iceweasel
That’s great! Glad to hear it.
There is NO RAIN here for the moment— we had some this morning— and Jimmah’s dad is visiting us, which is nice. Making beef stew for dinner later.
Mmm, beef stew.
| 758 |
Bubblehead II Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:56:01am |
Morning Lizards. Ron Paul down plays Perry photo.
| 759 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:56:18am |
re: #756 iceweasel
I don’t think Democrats know how to play offense.
Sure they do!
It’s just offense in the opposite direction!
| 760 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:56:53am |
re: #758 Bubblehead II
Morning Lizards. Ron Paul down plays Perry photo.
I so wanted Ron to bust out with a JUDO THROW or something.
XD
| 761 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:56:57am |
It seems to me that Obama’s great sin was getting elected in the first place. It was funny hearing how back in 2004 President Bush had a mandate even though he won by one state, Obama meanwhile has the biggest win in twenty years and he’s treated like this unelected usurper. I really hope there’s a backlash against the Republican party next year. They’ve done nothing to retain their majority in the House.
| 762 |
allegro Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:57:01am |
re: #752 lawhawk
I’m not so sure that the speech will end up having much of an effect.
I agree that it will likely have little effect with regards to the Congress getting anything substantial done. The GOP won’t allow any relief to the current economic/jobs situation.
I think it will have a BIG effect on voters (see my comment above). If the Dems keep hammering along with us DFHs out in the field, some real good could come of it to get the lunatics out of Congress so that something can get done finally. I was delighted with that speech last night.
| 764 |
BongCrodny Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:58:57am |
| 765 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:59:17am |
re: #756 iceweasel
I don’t think Democrats know how to play offense.
I hear that. Not with Pelosi and Reid playing in the game.
So can anyone tell me what either of these two old farts said after Obama’s speech yesterday? Have they said anything this morning? And another thing. These two millionaires don’t even care anymore. They can barely utter a word when confronted by the cameras.
Replace Pelosi and Reid now!
[Smiley face.]
| 766 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 7:59:28am |
| 767 |
blueraven Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:01:07am |
LOL…Actual WaPo Express Headline
“Libya Ferrets Out Gadhafi’s Taint.”
| 768 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:01:57am |
| 769 |
lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:03:20am |
re: #763 Varek Raith
Bank of America is prepping to lay off 40,000 employees (10-14% depending on who you ask). UBS has also cut jobs, and they were considering a move from CT back to Lower Manhattan but scrapped it when they decided to cut jobs and further consolidation of operations.
The big companies aren’t hiring, and small companies are still having credit issues in trying to get off the ground or expand.
| 770 |
Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:04:02am |
| 771 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:04:02am |
re: #766 Varek Raith
WE’RE JUST ADVANCING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!
re: #766 Varek Raith
WE’RE JUST ADVANCING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!
We’re not doing anything wrong! Just stop criticizing us you’re making us look bad! Sit down and shut up or else we’ll get the DNC after your ass!!11ty
//Markos is right.
| 773 |
makeitstop Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:05:21am |
Swing voters in a focus group react to Obama’s speech:
Substantively, these swing voters liked the President’s proposals. They came to the speech with deep concerns about the economic situation and came away from the speech persuaded and encouraged that Obama has good ideas for improving America’s economy.
The dial ratings stayed high throughout virtually all of the President’s proposals — with particularly strong responses to his proposals to invest in America’s infrastructure, modernize America’s schools, continue the payroll tax break for middle-class Americans, provide new tax breaks for small businesses, and put teachers who have been laid off back to work.
The dials also reflect a very positive reaction to President Obama’s discussion of the budget and the fact that his jobs proposals would be paid for. Indeed, the section of the speech in which the President laid out the “simple arithmetic” of the choice between maintaining tax breaks and subsidies or spending on basic priorities scores particularly well. In the discussion afterward, respondents said they liked the simplicity, clarity, and realism of this section.
This focus group, BTW, was from Eric Cantor’s home district. Gotta love that.
| 774 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:06:38am |
re: #772 iceweasel
Comrade Gus! How goes it? Emailed you earlier.
Emailed ya’ back. Getting read. Leaving later this morning. I’m lazy. ;)
Heading to Reno. Blech. Not sure if I want to take the northern route.
| 775 |
iceweasel Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:07:02am |
re: #773 makeitstop
Swing voters in a focus group react to Obama’s speech:
This focus group, BTW, was from Eric Cantor’s home district. Gotta love that.
hee.
| 776 |
iceweasel Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:08:01am |
re: #774 Gus 802
Emailed ya’ back. Getting read. Leaving later this morning. I’m lazy. ;)
Heading to Reno. Blech. Not sure if I want to take the northern route.
I’ll write you in a few hours— have to take off to meet Jimmah and his dad at the pub. See you later! Reno? Cool.
| 777 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:08:33am |
re: #773 makeitstop
Swing voters in a focus group react to Obama’s speech:
This focus group, BTW, was from Eric Cantor’s home district. Gotta love that.
Well there ya’ go. But we have to read that from some blog? Where’s MSNBC? If this was Fox News they’d have that plastered all over the channel. Instead we have to read stuff like this from some obscure blog? I’m telling ya’. Democrats are losing the PR game here.
| 778 |
iceweasel Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:08:36am |
re: #774 Gus 802
Emailed ya’ back. Getting read. Leaving later this morning. I’m lazy. ;)
Heading to Reno. Blech. Not sure if I want to take the northern route.
Good luck and safe driving! Bye for now.
| 779 |
lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:08:37am |
Oy… Mel Gibson considering producing, directing, starring in a movie about the Jewish hero Judah Maccabee (on which the holiday of Hanukkah is based).
A certain level of outrage was anticipated when the news broke — after all, Gibson has hardly been known as a bastion of tolerance and understanding in recent years. Now, Jewish leaders are speaking out about what they feel is hypocrisy in having Gibson involved. Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder and dean of Los Angeles’s Simon Wiesenthal Center Museum of Tolerance, told The Hollywood Reporter, “He’s had a long history of antagonism with Jews. Casting him as a director or perhaps as the star of Judah Maccabee is like casting (Bernie) Madoff to be the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission, or a white supremacist as trying to portray Martin Luther King Jr. It’s simply an insult to Jews.”
Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti Defamation League, also issued a statement to The Hollywood Reporter saying, “Judah Maccabee deserves better. He is a hero of the Jewish people and a universal hero in the struggle for religious liberty. It would be a travesty to have his story told by one who has no respect and sensitivity for other people’s religious views.”
| 780 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:08:48am |
re: #773 makeitstop
Swing voters in a focus group react to Obama’s speech:
This focus group, BTW, was from Eric Cantor’s home district. Gotta love that.
Interesting stuff since Cantor represents one of the most solidly Republican areas of the state, the Richmond suburbs I believe is his district.
| 782 |
blueraven Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:12:33am |
re: #777 Gus 802
Well there ya’ go. But we have to read that from some blog? Where’s MSNBC? If this was Fox News they’d have that plastered all over the channel. Instead we have to read stuff like this from some obscure blog? I’m telling ya’. Democrats are losing the PR game here.
Actually that is a superpac site, Priorities USA, set up by Bill Burton, who used to be deputy press secretary for Obama. So I would take that focus group result with a grain of salt
| 783 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:12:50am |
In a rare interview with Ali Soufan, the FBI agent who was at the center of the 9/11 investigations, FRONTLINE correspondent Martin Smith uncovers an insider’s view on the “war on terror.” One of only eight Arabic-speaking FBI agents, Soufan explains why he believes the attacks on the World Trade Center could have been prevented and how the use of torture failed to produce actionable intelligence.
Did you read that? One of eight Arabic speaking FBI agents. Amazing isn’t it? Good stuff there about how waterboarding torture doesn’t work.
| 784 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:12:50am |
re: #781 Gus 802
Makes one pin for a leader like LBJ. Sure, he was probably an asshole but the guy knew how the Senate worked.
| 785 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:13:44am |
re: #784 HappyWarrior
Makes one pin for a leader like LBJ. Sure, he was probably an asshole but the guy knew how the Senate worked.
Or Ted Kennedy. Someone with balls and a man who knew how to speak his mind.
| 786 |
blueraven Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:15:13am |
re: #782 blueraven
Actually that is a superpac site, Priorities USA, set up by Bill Burton, who used to be deputy press secretary for Obama. So I would take that focus group result with a grain of salt
That said, its probably just as valid as those stupid Frank Luntz focus groups that Fox is always pimping.
| 787 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:16:16am |
re: #785 Gus 802
Or Ted Kennedy. Someone with balls and a man who knew how to speak his mind.
I’ve missed Ted a lot. A great champion of liberal values in the Senate for many years.
| 788 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:16:20am |
re: #786 blueraven
That said, its probably just as valid as those stupid Frank Luntz focus groups that Fox is always pimping.
Yes. What I’m saying is that the Democrats need a “pimp”. Right now they don’t have one contrary to popular belief.
| 789 |
makeitstop Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:17:11am |
re: #777 Gus 802
Well there ya’ go. But we have to read that from some blog? Where’s MSNBC? If this was Fox News they’d have that plastered all over the channel. Instead we have to read stuff like this from some obscure blog? I’m telling ya’. Democrats are losing the PR game here.
Call me an optimist, but the reaction to the speech in a solidly Republican area of the country is encouraging.
And the fight hasn’t started yet - McConnell and Boehner were talking trash yesterday afternoon, ‘same failed ideas,’ etc. etc.
Where are the big bad Republicans today? No statement from McConnell, nothing from Boehner, and Cantor is whining like a little girl because Obama vowed to take it straight to the voters.
They know if they reject the speech straight up they are going to get burned. They know that Obama has an issue to beat them over the head with from now until election day if they try the same shit they pulled during the debt ceiling fight.
They’re scared. They’re hiding. And the first one to stick their head up is gonna get smacked.
I can’t wait. This jobs plan is a winning issue and the TGOP knows it.
| 790 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:17:29am |
re: #783 Gus 802
Did you read that? One of eight Arabic speaking FBI agents. Amazing isn’t it? Good stuff there about how
waterboardingtorture doesn’t work.
And if you scroll down there. A few more additional words…
In a rare interview with Ali Soufan, the FBI agent who was at the center of the 9/11 investigations, FRONTLINE correspondent Martin Smith uncovers an insider’s view on the “war on terror.” One of only eight Arabic-speaking FBI agents, Soufan explains why he believes the attacks on the World Trade Center could have been prevented and how the use of torture failed to produce actionable intelligence. Also in this hour: Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post reporter Dana Priest investigates the terrorism-industrial complex that grew up in the wake of 9/11. In “Are We Safer?” Priest explores the growing reach of homeland security, fusion centers, battlefield technologies, and data-collecting into the lives of ordinary Americans.
| 791 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:17:52am |
re: #779 lawhawk
Oy… Mel Gibson considering producing, directing, starring in a movie about the Jewish hero Judah Maccabee (on which the holiday of Hanukkah is based).
Eli Roth should play Yehuda Maccabee.
Oh, and they should totally do a remake of “Hebrew Hammer.”
| 793 |
lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:21:55am |
re: #791 Alouette
Eli Roth could direct and star… it’s right up his alley - maybe get Russell Crowe as Antiochus.
| 794 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:22:42am |
re: #789 makeitstop
Call me an optimist, but the reaction to the speech in a solidly Republican area of the country is encouraging.
And the fight hasn’t started yet - McConnell and Boehner were talking trash yesterday afternoon, ‘same failed ideas,’ etc. etc.
Where are the big bad Republicans today? No statement from McConnell, nothing from Boehner, and Cantor is whining like a little girl because Obama vowed to take it straight to the voters.
They know if they reject the speech straight up they are going to get burned. They know that Obama has an issue to beat them over the head with from now until election day if they try the same shit they pulled during the debt ceiling fight.
They’re scared. They’re hiding. And the first one to stick their head up is gonna get smacked.
I can’t wait. This jobs plan is a winning issue and the TGOP knows it.
I think you’re overly optimistic. The Republicans were willing to go to the hilt to protect the very unpopular tax breaks for the rich during the debt ceiling debate. They aren’t at all concerned with their popularity outside of the Tea Party fringe. The talk this morning is they’ll pick out a few provisions in Obama’s plan (probably just a few tax breaks) and pass them separately but they’re going to do as little as possible to help the economy.
| 795 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:24:36am |
| 796 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:24:45am |
re: #793 lawhawk
Eli Roth could direct and star… it’s right up his alley - maybe get Russell Crowe as Antiochus.
Mel Gibson as Antiochus!
| 797 |
Bubblehead II Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:24:55am |
Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but Michele Bachmann the Crazy Lady has a video response to the Presidents speach out.
“She said she was offended by President Barack Obama’s opening remarks asking Congress to “stop the political circus” and do something to help the economy.”
GASP! The truth offends her.
| 798 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:27:53am |
re: #797 Bubblehead II
Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but
Michele Bachmannthe Crazy Lady has a video response to the Presidents speach out.“She said she was offended by President Barack Obama’s opening remarks asking Congress to “stop the political circus” and do something to help the economy.”
GASP! The truth offends her.
Political circus? Rich coming from one of the ringmasters.
| 799 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:29:35am |
re: #798 HappyWarrior
Political circus? Rich coming from one of the
ringmastersclowns.
| 800 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:29:58am |
re: #797 Bubblehead II
Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but
Michele Bachmannthe Crazy Lady has a video response to the Presidents speach out.“She said she was offended by President Barack Obama’s opening remarks asking Congress to “stop the political circus” and do something to help the economy.”
GASP! The truth offends her.
Ah, thanks. I was wondering what happened to her planned response.
| 802 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:32:05am |
I watched the debate the other night and Bachmann was talking about how our immigration laws were fine before the 60’s. She totally ignored the fact that there were racist quotas in there. I really wish one of the questions would have asked about Reagan and the ‘86 immigration amnesty. Considering they were at his library and all of them think they’re like him, why not ask about that?
| 803 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:34:00am |
re: #802 HappyWarrior
I watched the debate the other night and Bachmann was talking about how our immigration laws were fine before the 60’s. She totally ignored the fact that there were racist quotas in there. I really wish one of the questions would have asked about Reagan and the ‘86 immigration amnesty. Considering they were at his library and all of them think they’re like him, why not ask about that?
…
That was not AMNESTY!!11ty
I think she meant the 1860s.
| 804 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:34:38am |
| 805 |
iossarian Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:43:51am |
re: #804 HappyWarrior
Damn the Irish and their Rum and Romanism.
Papists burn in hell.
I kid, of course.
*smiles at the catholic lizards eating fish on friday*
| 806 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:44:35am |
re: #804 HappyWarrior
Damn the Irish and their Rum and Romanism.
I am curious. Why with this massive security-industrial complex we have since 9/11 that immigration would still be a “problem”. Adding to this the expansion of ICE and the creation of the bloated Department of Fatherland Homeland Security. Aren’t they doing their jobs besides creating terrorist threat spam or is this yet another fear mongering right wing meme?
I’m still scratching my head over the fact that the FBI had only 8 Arabic speakers. A couple of months ago some public school wanted to add Arabic language classes and the stupid wingnuts were up in arms. I’m sure the school, thankfully, went through with their plans.
| 807 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:48:25am |
Consider: more than 58 Arabic linguists have been kicked out since “don’t ask, don’t tell” was instituted. How much valuable intelligence could those men and women be providing today to troops in harm’s way?
| 808 |
makeitstop Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:48:44am |
re: #794 Killgore Trout
I think you’re overly optimistic. The Republicans were willing to go to the hilt to protect the very unpopular tax breaks for the rich during the debt ceiling debate. They aren’t at all concerned with their popularity outside of the Tea Party fringe. The talk this morning is they’ll pick out a few provisions in Obama’s plan (probably just a few tax breaks) and pass them separately but they’re going to do as little as possible to help the economy.
Could be. I’ve been known to have been wrong before. :)
But Obama spelled things out in such a way that even people who voted for Eric Freakin’ Cantor could understand it. That’s gotta count for something.
And compare the GOP reaction to this speech to past policy speeches. They couldn’t wait to jump on Obama in the past. They didn’t even mount an official response last night.
Last night’s speech was a challenge to the GOP, and it’s not a fight they seem to eager to get into.
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Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:49:22am |
Don’t Ask, Don’t Translate
By STEPHEN BENJAMIN
Published: June 8, 2007
IMAGINE for a moment an American soldier deep in the Iraqi desert. His unit is about to head out when he receives a cable detailing an insurgent ambush right in his convoy’s path. With this information, he and his soldiers are now prepared for the danger that lies ahead.
Reports like these are regularly sent from military translators’ desks, providing critical, often life-saving intelligence to troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. But the military has a desperate shortage of linguists trained to translate such invaluable information and convey it to the war zone.
The lack of qualified translators has been a pressing issue for some time — the Army had filled only half its authorized positions for Arabic translators in 2001. Cables went untranslated on Sept. 10 that might have prevented the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. Today, the American Embassy in Baghdad has nearly 1,000 personnel, but only a handful of fluent Arabic speakers.
Continues.
Idiots.
| 810 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:50:06am |
re: #809 Gus 802
Don’t Ask, Don’t Translate
By STEPHEN BENJAMIN
Published: June 8, 2007Idiots.
…The lack of qualified translators has been a pressing issue for some time — the Army had filled only half its authorized positions for Arabic translators in 2001. Cables went untranslated on Sept. 10 that might have prevented the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11…
| 811 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:50:30am |
re: #807 Gus 802
Consider: more than 58 Arabic linguists have been kicked out since “don’t ask, don’t tell” was instituted. How much valuable intelligence could those men and women be providing today to troops in harm’s way?
Oh, and, they rejected a whole bunch of native Arabic speakers because they were Teh Juice.
| 812 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:51:23am |
Yeah I remember hearing about the firing of the linquists. Bunch of dumb crap. You want the best people you can have and if they happen to be gay, so what? Would they have me a straight person who knows no Arabic than a gay person who does? It’s stupid. One would think that conservatives would embrace gays in the military because it allows for a strong as military as possible but no they’re too paranoid about gays.
| 813 |
Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:51:34am |
re: #811 Alouette
Oh, and, they rejected a whole bunch of native Arabic speakers because they were Teh Juice.
Nucking futz. I just glanced at that. Let me see if I can find the link.
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:51:37am |
BTW, the stock market hasn’t reacted all that well to the President’s speech. DJIA down 275 points, other indices are down around 2%.
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Interesting Times Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:52:08am |
re: #809 Gus 802
“So it’s legal to waterboard a detainee for intelligence, but illegal to keep the gay translator who can understand what he’s saying!”
—Jon Stewart
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:53:26am |
I remember David Horowitz was whining about Arabic being taught in schools. I thought that was funny since Horowitz is someone who champions us having a big role in the Middle East. Well, Dave, wouldn’t it be helpful to have people who know the language? I know a couple of people taking Arabic and I think they’re nuts but foreign language is one of my academic Achilles heels. Spanish was challenging enough.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:54:48am |
re: #802 HappyWarrior
I watched the debate the other night and Bachmann was talking about how our immigration laws were fine before the 60’s. She totally ignored the fact that there were racist quotas in there.
Nah, she didn’t. That’s just what these dumb confederate conservatives loved about our immigration laws prior to when the commies changed them.
They’re all for quotas (limits), despite their grandstanding against them.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:59:00am |
re: #816 HappyWarrior
I remember David Horowitz was whining about Arabic being taught in schools. I thought that was funny since Horowitz is someone who champions us having a big role in the Middle East. Well, Dave, wouldn’t it be helpful to have people who know the language? I know a couple of people taking Arabic and I think they’re nuts but foreign language is one of my academic Achilles heels. Spanish was challenging enough.
No! Robert Spencer can tell you everything you need to know about Arabic!
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 9, 2011 8:59:43am |
Well I survived the blackout. Power came on at 230 am. Schools closed, but back to work with a nice hangover. We made the best of it!
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Bubblehead II Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:00:33am |
re: #806 Gus 802
I think this is the story you are referring to. And according to thier web site, no, they are not going to teach it.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:00:52am |
re: #819 Stanley Sea
Well I survived the blackout. Power came on at 230 am. Schools closed, but back to work with a nice hangover. We made the best of it!
:)
Good to hear
How long was the power out for? Has it returned everywhere, or are there still pockets of outages?
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Gus Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:01:39am |
re: #820 Bubblehead II
I think this is the story you are referring to. And according to thier web site, no, they are not going to teach it.
Oh brother. What a country.
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Bubblehead II Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:04:12am |
re: #822 Gus 802
Well considering the State this School Distric is in (Tx) are you really all that surprised?
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:05:34am |
Note to construction firms and cities.
If you’re gonna shut off power for them to dig, FREAKING WARN US!
Thanks.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:06:43am |
re: #821 sattv4u2
:)
Good to hear
How long was the power out for? Has it returned everywhere, or are there still pockets of outages?
From like 340p till 230a. Mostly all on now.
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iossarian Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:07:23am |
re: #822 Gus 802
FTA:
Some parents had concerns over religion. “The school doesn’t teach Christianity, so I don’t want them teaching Islam,” said parent Baron Kane.
Since the school is presumably teaching English, by Mr. Kane’s logic, it is, in fact, teaching Christianity already.
Once they’ve got Arabic established, maybe they can also introduce mandatory “not being a clueless idiot” classes.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:07:59am |
re: #825 Stanley Sea
From like 340p till 230a. Mostly all on now.
Probably THE most inconvenient hours of a given day (4 p.m. ish till 11 p.m.ish)
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:10:33am |
re: #826 iossarian
FTA:
“Some parents had concerns over religion. “The school doesn’t teach Christianity, so I don’t want them teaching Islam,” said parent Baron Kane.”
e_e good jesus. Somebody tell that braindead confederate Arabic is a language, not a religion.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Sep 9, 2011 9:14:03am |
re: #819 Stanley Sea
Well I survived the blackout. Power came on at 230 am. Schools closed, but back to work with a nice hangover. We made the best of it!
Some poor dumb shmuck is going to have a career change to the fast food industry.
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Steve Fri, Sep 9, 2011 11:22:25am |
re: #829 Alouette
Some poor dumb shmuck is going to have a career change to the fast food industry.
Only if they were not following a written procedure. If they were following an SOP there is nothing they can do about it except to rewrite the SOP. I know.
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