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My friend, you have seen this incident based on sworn testimony. Can you prove that it didn’t happen? Perhaps on your way home, you will pass someone in the dark, and you will never know it, for they will be from outer space. Many scientists believe that another world is watching us this moment. We once laughed at the horseless carriage, the aeroplane, the telephone, the electric light, vitamins, radio, and even television! And now some of us laugh at outer space. God help us… in the future.

— Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space

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1 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:51:11pm

Criswell strikes again!

2 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:51:35pm

Plan 9 speaks the Eternal Truths!

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3 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:51:49pm

Ah fresh thread, and so far troll free.

/hmmm, remind me to restock the fridge next time. . . .

4 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:52:27pm

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Ah fresh thread, and so far troll free.

/hmmm, remind me to restock the fridge next time. . . .

Oh man! Now you spoilt it! Speak the name and you know what happens!

5 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:54:13pm

I laugh at inner space.

6 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:54:32pm

re: #4 FurryOldGuyJeans

What there is a troll poster called troll?

/now that would be a stupid sockpuppet

7 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:55:40pm

re: #6 BlueCanuck

What there is a troll poster called troll?

/now that would be a stupid sockpuppet

Would be an appropriate one, and be a good proof of their general competence.

8 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:56:29pm

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Ah fresh thread, and so far troll free.

/hmmm, remind me to restock the fridge next time. . . .

frag that: restock the barbq!.....

/and the kindling supplies!

9 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:57:58pm

we *REALLY* need to get the HMFWIIC a new cult movie.....

10 alteredbeat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:58:59pm

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

11 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:01:17am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

Damn, nice way to come in. Not.

12 winston06  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:02:14am

good night every one

13 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:03:05am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You have still not answered my question from the previous thread.

14 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:03:15am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Of course, using terms like "groupthink" might get one labeled a troll.

15 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:03:47am

Ummm guns and ammo, yeah that's the ticket

/all else fails we turn it into a boobie thread.

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:03:54am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

Cluebat needed aisle three, troll cleanup.

17 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:04:14am

re: #14 Sharmuta

Of course, using terms like "groupthink" might get one labeled a troll.

Gee, ya think? ;)

18 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:04:36am

What Hamas Wants

A thought experiment: Imagine that Hamas announces it will immediately cease and desist from firing missiles into Israel, that there will be no more such attacks in the future, and that it will release Gilad Shalit, the Israel soldier kidnapped two and a half years ago and held incommunicado ever since — with not even the Red Cross allowed to see him. What would happen then?

Moderate Israelis would pressure their government to make a reciprocal gesture: to stop the air attacks on Hamas’s command and control centers, release Palestinian terrorists from Israeli jails and get serious peace talks underway.

But anyone who knows anything about Hamas also knows that such a scenario is implausible. Hamas was created to fight and win holy wars — not to seek peace and sing kumbaya with infidels. Hamas wants a Palestinian state in place of Israel — not next door to Israel. And for Hamas, preventing Palestinian carnage is not a priority. That’s not a slander, it’s a fact. As Hamas parliamentarian Fathi Hamad eloquently phrased it: “We desire death as you desire life.”

In 2005, Israelis undertook a real-life experiment: They said: “The Palestinians have a grievance: our occupation of Gaza and the West Bank — even though we administer those territories as the consequence of a war launched to annihilate us. But if our presence provokes violence, let’s see what results from our absence.” That summer, Israel pulled every soldier and settler out of Gaza. Every house of worship and cemetery was removed. But greenhouses were left behind.

Palestinians might have responded by using those greenhouses to grow flowers for export. They might have built factories, schools, hospitals, and hotels along their Mediterranean beaches. Had that been their choice, moderate Israelis surely would have made further concessions — for example, uprooting Israelis from the West Bank as well, and offering to negotiate a division of Jerusalem.

Instead, of course, Palestinians smashed the greenhouses and put Hamas in charge. Since then, Hamas has done nothing to spark economic development. Nevertheless, it has bemoaned the increasing destitution of unoccupied Gaza — now blaming it on Israel’s “siege” — and demanding aid, not least from Israel, which has given it (as has the U.S.), even as the rockets have fallen

We should understand by now that when Hamas officials vow to fight “occupation,” they are referring to any and all territory on which Israelis now exercise self-determination. Osama Hamdan, Hamas’s representative in Lebanon, said: “Our goal is to liberate all of Palestine, from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea…” Similarly Hamas official Mahmoud Zahar has said: ”We do not recognize the Israeli enemy, nor his right to be our neighbor, nor to stay, nor his ownership of any inch of land.”

/pretty much sums up the truth nicely

19 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:05:26am

re: #13 Erik The Red

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You have still not answered my question from the previous thread.

You are seriously expecting someone trollish to actually answer a question?

20 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:06:00am

Rumor mil - Re: Sec. of Commerce - WA governor Christine Gregoire slipped out of state, possibly to meet with the ONE.

21 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:06:09am

re: #13 Erik The Red

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You have still not answered my question from the previous thread.

Wait- we can't talk about fascists either?

22 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:06:23am

"You people" is not a label I accept.
Try again.

23 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:06:46am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

the individual one.....

HTH!

24 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:07:17am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

It's you who wanna enforce an anti-evolution groupthink on this blog, by bitching, whining and moaning every time an EVO thread is posted, in an attempt to dissuade Charles from doing so.

Hint: It ain't a gonna work. But if you push it to the point of offensiveness, you very well may find yourself on the outside looking in.

You don't enjoy EVO threads? DON'T READ THEM!

25 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:07:42am

re: #15 BlueCanuck

Ummm guns and ammo, yeah that's the ticket

/all else fails we turn it into a boobie thread.

tit's ok with me!

26 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:07:47am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

the individual one.....

HTH!

27 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:07:54am

re: #20 AuntAcid

Rumor mil - Re: Sec. of Commerce - WA governor Christine Gregoire slipped out of state, possibly to meet with the ONE.

UGH, double UGH, and UGH to nigh infinity.

As much as I would dearly love to see our "Beloved" Governor no longer in office, best if she stay in the Left Washington and just screw that up. She would have way too much "pull" to massively fuck up the whole country if she were CommSec.

28 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:08:27am

Morning all. Red, Happy New Year. i haven't been hanging much lately.

29 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:09:28am

re: #24 Salamantis

It's you who wanna enforce an anti-evolution groupthink on this blog, by bitching, whining and moaning every time an EVO thread is posted, in an attempt to dissuade Charles from doing so.

Hint: It ain't a gonna work. But if you push it to the point of offensiveness, you very well may find yourself on the outside looking in.

You don't enjoy EVO threads? DON'T READ THEM!

Here's to hoping for an early meltdown, eh? ;)

30 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:10:21am

re: #24 Salamantis

Oh- but he also doesn't like music threads, tech threads or fascist threads:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I agree with Erik- why the hell are you reading this blog if you don't like the content?

31 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:10:45am

Was talking with an old army buddy this weekend. Up here you need a permit to own rifles and such. With the same permit you buy ammunition. Buddy said he went to a police officer in charge of such things to ask a question. According to the firearm restriction act, you aren't allowed to store excessive amounts of ammunition. He tried to get a clarification on what excessive meant. :)

/he goes through a lot during a normal month that would be excessive for normal folks.

32 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:10:58am

re: #30 Sharmuta

Oh- but he also doesn't like music threads, tech threads or fascist threads:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I agree with Erik- why the hell are you reading this blog if you don't like the content?

Complaining constantly, DUH! ;)

33 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:11:29am

re: #26 BlueCanuck

the individual one.....

HTH!

you're so cute......

/and just a few seconds late. %-)

34 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:11:36am

re: #30 Sharmuta

Oh- but he also doesn't like music threads, tech threads or fascist threads:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I agree with Erik- why the hell are you reading this blog if you don't like the content?

the colorful little icons? ;-)>

35 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:11:44am

re: #30 Sharmuta

Oh- but he also doesn't like music threads, tech threads or fascist threads:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I agree with Erik- why the hell are you reading this blog if you don't like the content?

Ahh, okay...so he likes him some Vlaams Belang, too, ayy?

36 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:12:14am

re: #32 FurryOldGuyJeans

Complaining constantly, DUH! ;)

Some people are only happy when they are bitching and whining. Miserable curmudgeons. . . . . .

37 alteredbeat  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:12:23am

re: #14 Sharmuta

Of course, using terms like "groupthink" might get one labeled a troll.

Fine, label me a troll then. but the last thread I watched you folks bum rush GregInSeattle for saying he doesn't enjoy the evol/ID threads and that's why he didn't vote for LGF. I share the same opinion.

Majority opinion rules though right? (naw, that's not groupthink)

38 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:13:05am

re: #16 FurryOldGuyJeans

Cluebat needed aisle three, troll cleanup.

That would be aisle 10, FOGJ. .....unless you're trying to get rid of {Blue}
;)

39 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:13:12am

re: #33 redc1c4

Was trying out this hive mind/groupthink thing. Didn't like it too much. Dude, when did you last clean up in there. :p

/white smoke.

40 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:13:28am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

We've drunk all the hootch and are now looking for our guns.

41 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:13:38am

re: #36 BlueCanuck

Some people are only happy when they are bitching and whining. Miserable curmudgeons. . . . . .

It has been said before a Happy Military Member is a Bitchin' One. I know I was, on both accounts. ;)

42 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:13:46am

re: #38 LeePro

That would be aisle 10, FOGJ. .....unless you're trying to get rid of {Blue}
;)

Well, I did bring up the t word. Sorry folks, my bad.

43 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:14:07am

re: #37 alteredbeat

Fine, label me a troll then. but the last thread I watched you folks bum rush GregInSeattle for saying he doesn't enjoy the evol/ID threads and that's why he didn't vote for LGF. I share the same opinion.

Majority opinion rules though right? (naw, that's not groupthink)

you are educated enough to understand the difference between groupthink and a majority believing something independently?

44 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:14:09am

re: #28 Mel Lono

Morning all. Red, Happy New Year. i haven't been hanging much lately.

peace love drugs dude.... i'm stuck in a 5day/week/class for the next few, unless i can flimflam my way out of it..... sucks to be me.

/idiots in every direction

45 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:14:12am

re: #38 LeePro

That would be aisle 10, FOGJ. .....unless you're trying to get rid of {Blue}
;)

Oh DARN! Been found out! ;)

46 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:14:34am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

If you don't enjoy them, pick another one to hang out in. Nobody's holding a banana to your head.

47 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:14:47am

re: #41 FurryOldGuyJeans

It has been said before a Happy Military Member is a Bitchin' One. I know I was, on both accounts. ;)

It's so true. Cause when they stop complaining? They are planning something. And no good comes of that.

/been on the other end myself

48 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:14:54am

re: #18 Killian Bundy

+ and ♥

Excellent!

49 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:15:32am

re: #37 alteredbeat

Fine, label me a troll then. but the last thread I watched you folks bum rush GregInSeattle for saying he doesn't enjoy the evol/ID threads and that's why he didn't vote for LGF. I share the same opinion.

Majority opinion rules though right? (naw, that's not groupthink)

Hope you have lots of lube. This may be painful.

50 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:15:37am

re: #42 BlueCanuck

Well, I did bring up the t word. Sorry folks, my bad.

And look at what crept in! Shame, shame! ;)

51 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:16:27am

re: #43 Outrider

you are educated enough to understand the difference between groupthink and a majority believing something independently?

I find the empirical evidence lacking for that potential assertion.

52 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:16:53am

re: #47 BlueCanuck

It's so true. Cause when they stop complaining? They are planning something. And no good comes of that.

/been on the other end myself

on the other hand too much bitching merely lowers morale overall. And they can always be kept too busy to do much plotting. ;-)>

53 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:17:26am

re: #37 alteredbeat

You still have your account and are still posting. So much for your silly 'groupthink' argument.

54 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:17:36am

re: #39 BlueCanuck

Was trying out this hive mind/groupthink thing. Didn't like it too much. Dude, when did you last clean up in there. :p

/white smoke.

what are you talking about?

it's rinsed with ethanol daily......

55 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:17:36am

Someone has no idea what I think...........

56 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:17:39am

re: #37 alteredbeat

Fine, label me a troll then. but the last thread I watched you folks bum rush GregInSeattle for saying he doesn't enjoy the evol/ID threads and that's why he didn't vote for LGF. I share the same opinion.

Majority opinion rules though right? (naw, that's not groupthink)

What he said was that he didn't appreciate Charles giving the public school religious dogma indoctrination threat to American kids any attention. Apparently, he would prefer that it grow and flower in the shadows, until it's strong enough to emerge into the light and execute its theocratic takeover dreams.

I prefer the astringent sunlight of public attention to be focused on such rancid mildewed basement mold. It's a great disinfectant.

57 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:17:55am

re: #51 FurryOldGuyJeans

I find the empirical evidence lacking for that potential assertion.

uh huh. I got your empirical evidence hanging by its assertion. ;-)>

58 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:18:08am

re: #37 alteredbeat

It's natural that people on this blog, that have a similar political point of view, would agree on many topics. Is that groupthink too?

But this is a blog of individuals- each with their own opinion(s) on various topics. That many of us have accepted evolution because of the evidence doesn't mean we're engaged in "groupthink". It means we're engaged in thinking, period.

59 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:18:25am

re: #44 redc1c4

Ha! They made me take a day off tonight (last) since i'd be going 3 weeks straight. Corp types don't like you to work to hard, i guess. How bout them Chargers!

60 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:18:55am

re: #40 AuntAcid

We've drunk all the hootch and are now looking for our guns.

thank gawd for dummy cords, eh?

/damn FNG's

61 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:19:47am

re: #37 alteredbeat

If this place were true groupthink as you love to blather about, you sure wouldn't be having the ability to complain; your account would be given the stick. Try speaking contrary at DKos sometime and see how far you get.

Here you just get a smackdown by the lizard army members.

62 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:19:52am

Oh, God! We all voted against 0bama. GROUPTHINK! GROUPTHINK!

63 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:20:47am

re: #62 Sharmuta

Oh, God! We all voted against 0bama. GROUPTHINK! GROUPTHINK!

That is the meme the FMSM wants to promote.

64 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:21:02am

re: #62 Sharmuta

Oh, God! We all voted against 0bama. GROUPTHINK! GROUPTHINK!

Not me. i voted for McCain. ;-)>

65 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:21:36am

re: #64 Outrider

Not me. i voted for McCain. ;-)>

er Palin actually.

66 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:22:10am

re: #52 Outrider

HA! You can never keep the troops too busy to plot.

/was read the mutiny act once. Once.
//last hour I spent in uniform.

67 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:22:10am

re: #64 Outrider

Not me. i voted for McCain. ;-)>

*SIGH* Right now voting against the Messiah-King might make more sense. McCain sure didn't want to win.

68 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:23:21am

....I mean, what if I subscribe to this theory?..?...
....group-think my okole'........

69 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:24:16am

And now for something completely different....


GoGo

70 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:24:32am

re: #59 Mel Lono

Ha! They made me take a day off tonight (last) since i'd be going 3 weeks straight. Corp types don't like you to work to hard, i guess. How bout them Chargers!

"Bolts beat Dolts!"

and

"Horns hook 'Eyes!"

/cue "Conquest" and the horse

71 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:24:42am

re: #68 IslandLibertarian

....I mean, what if I subscribe to this theory?..?...
....group-think my okole'........

Umm...since I evolved here, I kinda think I belong...

72 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:25:40am

re: #35 Salamantis

Ahh, okay...so he likes him some Vlaams Belang, too, ayy?

Maybe. Perhaps he'd be happier at pamela's blog.

73 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:25:47am

re: #71 Salamantis

Umm...since I evolved here, I kinda think I belong...

As hard to get rid of as mold or mildew, eh? ;)

74 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:26:02am

re: #67 FurryOldGuyJeans

*SIGH* Right now voting against the Messiah-King might make more sense. McCain sure didn't want to win.

yeah, it did seem kind of half hearted.

75 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:26:12am

re: #62 Sharmuta

Oh, God! We all voted against 0bama. GROUPTHINK! GROUPTHINK!

sorry, *i* voted FOR Gov. Palin.

/the only Republican on the ballot.

76 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:26:49am

re: #75 redc1c4

sorry, *i* voted FOR Gov. Palin.

/the only Republican on the ballot.

The only CONSERVATIVE, you mean. :)

77 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:27:32am

re: #74 Outrider

yeah, it did seem kind of half hearted.

Choosing Governor Palin seems to have been such an uncharacteristic choice.

78 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:27:40am

re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only CONSERVATIVE, you mean. :)

that too......

/picky

79 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:28:05am

re: #78 redc1c4

that too......

/picky

But of course! ;)

80 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:28:55am

re: #77 FurryOldGuyJeans

Choosing Governor Palin seems to have been such an uncharacteristic choice.

one of the few smart moves he made. who could figure we had so many "elitists" in the Republican party?

81 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:29:02am

re: #64 Outrider

Not me. I chose not to vote for either and feel very good about it.

82 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:29:32am

re: #77 FurryOldGuyJeans

Choosing Governor Palin seems to have been such an uncharacteristic choice.

he/his advisers expected it to go wrong.........

instead they released a model.

83 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:30:18am

re: #81 Mel Lono

Not me. I chose not to vote for either and feel very good about it.

keep that thought in mind over the next four years. Trouble with straddling a fence, a man can get an awful sore crotch that way.

84 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:30:27am

re: #80 Outrider

one of the few smart moves he made. who could figure we had so many "elitists" in the Republican party?

I figured it a long time ago...one of the several reasons I refuse to choose any long term party affiliation other than American Conservative.

85 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:30:57am

re: #70 redc1c4

"Bolts beat Dolts!"

and

"Horns hook 'Eyes!"

/cue "Conquest" and the horse

Lousy game til the end. I did get a laugh out of the "Buck Texas" t-shirt though.

86 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:31:32am

You people and your Palin groupthink! ////////

87 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:31:57am

re: #83 Outrider

keep that thought in mind over the next four years. Trouble with straddling a fence, a man can get an awful sore crotch that way.

Not straddling at all. The middle of the road is a good place to get run over.

88 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:31:58am

re: #82 redc1c4

he/his advisers expected it to go wrong.........

instead they released a model.

It would have been in tune with the general tenor of the man's campaign fully expecting to needing a barrel of beer to douse the flames of his failure.

89 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:32:43am

re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans

I figured it a long time ago...one of the several reasons I refuse to choose any long term party affiliation other than American Conservative.

I have no problem voting Dem but the good ones only seem to show up at the local level. I think Zell Miller is the only one I've voted for at higher than county level for years.

90 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:32:54am

re: #87 Mel Lono

Not straddling at all. The middle of the road is a good place to get run over.

The road stripers love to paint over road kill.

91 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:32:58am

re: #42 BlueCanuck

Well, I did bring up the t word. Sorry folks, my bad.

's okay, blue. Not a sin, but we'll forgive you anyway... ☧ in the name of the fodder, and the sun, and the white smoke.

92 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:33:23am

re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans

I figured it a long time ago...one of the several reasons I refuse to choose any long term party affiliation other than American Conservative.

Might I suggest a Federalist?

93 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:33:55am

re: #89 Outrider

I have no problem voting Dem but the good ones only seem to show up at the local level. I think Zell Miller is the only one I've voted for at higher than county level for years.

I never said I wouldn't vote Dem, you should realize. I vote for the person, not the letter after their name.

94 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:34:19am

gonna shotgun what Zin is left in front of me and hit the rack.....

i've got some BS school in the AM, so i need my sleep, if only for the patience.......

hope you like tonight's fruitcup!

hasta y'all.....

L8r!

95 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:34:19am

re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans

I figured it a long time ago...one of the several reasons I refuse to choose any long term party affiliation other than American Conservative.

Well, I'm a social libertarian (all citizens should enjoy all rights and freedoms that do not infringe on the rights and freedoms of others, and where conflicts between competing freedoms inevitably arise, they sould be resolved by equal and proportional compromise), a fiscal conservative (balance every budget), and a foreign policy constitutional-democracy-spreader (by diplomacy where possible; by force where feasible and necessary). To what party should I belong?

96 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:34:24am

re: #92 Mel Lono

Might I suggest a Federalist?

Suggest all you want....I don't do party.

97 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:35:10am

re: #95 Salamantis

The same one I belong to...none. :)

98 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:35:16am

re: #93 FurryOldGuyJeans

I never said I wouldn't vote Dem, you should realize. I vote for the person, not the letter after their name.

over the years, I have found precious few Dems that share my core beliefs or philosophies.

99 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:35:26am

re: #94 redc1c4

Rest easy. The watchtowers are manned and ready.

100 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:35:45am

Good night red, may you torment your teachers mercilessly.

101 Outrider  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:36:23am

got to bag it myself. Good night all.

102 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:36:24am

re: #98 Outrider

over the years, I have found precious few Dems that share my core beliefs or philosophies.

Scoop was the last for me, and I don't see any in the current crop I would consider either.

103 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:37:35am

re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans

Suggest all you want....I don't do party.

no wonder you're so grumpy......

/white smoke

104 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:38:06am

re: #103 redc1c4

no wonder you're so grumpy......

/white smoke

PFFFFFFFFFFFT! FIE! Fatwa! ;)

105 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:38:22am

re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans

Suggest all you want....I don't do party.

It's not a party although I wish it were. It's a society

106 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:38:25am

Some random thoughts:

1. Watched Hannity and Colmes earlier this evening, and had the pleasure of watching Alan Colmes lecturing Thomas Sowell on economics. That's akin to watching Shawn Kemp lecturing a nun on celebacy.

2. Okay Minnesota, we gave you Jesse Ventura. But Al Franken?!? I'm calling for mandatory drug testing of all registered voters in Minnesota.

3. Why is Little O picking so many former Clinton hacks to be in his cabinet? Simple: he's in over his head and doesn't have a fucking clue about what he should be doing. So much for "change". Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

4. Leon Panetta to be the head of the C.I.A.? Are you fucking crazy? Because he has good managerial and administrative skills?!? Hey, good managerial and administrative skills are fine if you want to be the night manager of the local WalMart, but not the head of the C.I. freaking A.!

107 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:38:40am

re: #99 Mel Lono

Rest easy. The watchtowers are manned and ready.

fire up the BBQ too, for the inevitable trolls....

108 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:39:03am

re: #105 Mel Lono

It's not a party although I wish it were. It's a society

Meh, I wouldn't join any organization that would have me as a member.

109 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:40:00am

re: #77 FurryOldGuyJeans

Choosing Governor Palin seems to have been such an uncharacteristic choice.

Not at all. He chose her b/c he knew it was the only way he had a chance of winning. But then he stifled her and lost anyway.

Palin/Steele 2012

110 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:40:43am

re: #109 LeePro

Not at all. He chose her b/c he knew it was the only way he had a chance of winning. But then he stifled her and lost anyway.

Palin/Steele 2012

As I said, uncharacteristic across the board. ;)

111 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:40:48am

re: #6 BlueCanuck

What there is a troll poster called troll?

/now that would be a stupid sockpuppet

Just call it "truth in advertising".

112 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:41:34am

re: #111 I Need A Bigger Gun

Just call it "truth in advertising".

Would that be a Brand X Troll, or a name brand one?

113 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:42:48am

re: #81 Mel Lono

Not me. I chose not to vote for either and feel very good about it.

Thank you [sarc] for contributing to our loss...

114 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:45:08am

re: #113 LeePro

Thank you [sarc] for contributing to our loss...

At least those who voted will "go down fighting" if push comes to shove. Out with a whimper and not a bang, anyone that chose to sit out the election. They richly deserve any shit that comes their way.

115 zombie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:45:45am

re: #106 I Need A Bigger Gun


3. Why is Little O picking so many former Clinton hacks to be in his cabinet? Simple: he's in over his head and doesn't have a fucking clue about what he should be doing. So much for "change". Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Well whaddya know, there's already a bumpersticker saying that exact same thing about Obama!

Meet the New B-O-ss, Same as the old Bush Boss stickers.

Very clever!

Also, "I voted for HOPE and CHANGE, but got MORE of the SAME" stickers.

Let the disillusionment commence!

116 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:46:09am

re: #25 redc1c4

tit's ok with me!

Tits on a ritz...hmmm, good cracker.

117 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:48:49am

re: #107 redc1c4

re: #113 LeePro

Having had this discussion innumerable times in the past 8 months, I will only reiterate that my R vote in the People's Republic of California would have made as much impact as a gnat's ass on an elephant (oh my, the symmetry).

118 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:49:51am

re: #115 zombie

Well whaddya know, there's already a bumpersticker saying that exact same thing about Obama!

Meet the New B-O-ss, Same as the old Bush Boss stickers.

Very clever!

Also, "I voted for HOPE and CHANGE, but got MORE of the SAME" stickers.

Let the disillusionment commence!

I am just pleased as punch Our Messiah-King is frittering away any good will and indulgence He had being such a Chicago clone.

119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:51:00am

re: #117 Mel Lono

re: #113 LeePro

Having had this discussion innumerable times in the past 8 months, I will only reiterate that my R vote in the People's Republic of California would have made as much impact as a gnat's ass on an elephant (oh my, the symmetry).

Keep saying that and do nothing, and you will just reaffirm your impotence.

120 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:51:07am

re: #106 I Need A Bigger Gun

3. Why is Little O picking so many former Clinton hacks to be in his cabinet? Simple: he's in over his head and doesn't have a fucking clue about what he should be doing. So much for "change". Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Like I said downstairs, B-Zero is being played like a violin by the DC Machine!

It's the Clinton-Clinger® syndrome

121 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:51:58am

re: #120 LeePro

Like I said downstairs, B-Zero is being played like a violin by the DC Machine!

It's the Clinton-Clinger® syndrome

Hillary is getting her revenge for being shat upon, apparently. :)

122 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:53:03am

re: #115 zombie

Well I expected a little ODS from the right. I now wonder if the ODS from the left will be more pronounced.

123 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:57:57am

re: #119 FurryOldGuyJeans

Keep saying that and do nothing, and you will just reaffirm your impotence.

My advice is to find the local conservatives who support what you believe in; for me that's lower taxes, a secure border, state's rights and no more bailouts, and then go out and support them with cash and time if you can. The Federalist Society is all about that. I am not sitting on my ass bemoaning the fact that Mr. McCain was the wrong man at the wrong time. Forgive my independent thought.

124 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:58:31am

re: #108 FurryOldGuyJeans

Meh, I wouldn't join any organization that would have me as a member.

Ack!
Proper attribution, please! That's Grouch Marx.

125 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:59:43am

I voted on the weblog awards today and was depressed to see that Pamela had a shot at winning 'best conservative blog'. This speaks volumes about the current state of the conservative movement. Wm F. Buckley is spinning in his grave.

126 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:00:50am

re: #110 FurryOldGuyJeans

As I said, uncharacteristic across the board. ;)

No, Furry... it's very characteristic... using people/things for his own benefit, then dumping them by the wayside, as he did!

127 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:02:06am

re: #124 LeePro

Ack!
Proper attribution, please! That's Grouch Marx.

Your point? I just happen to agree with the sentiment. ;)

128 beermeister  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:03:21am

re: #58 Sharmuta

It's natural that people on this blog, that have a similar political point of view, would agree on many topics. Is that groupthink too?

But this is a blog of individuals- each with their own opinion(s) on various topics. That many of us have accepted evolution because of the evidence doesn't mean we're engaged in "groupthink". It means we're engaged in thinking, period.

But sometimes when one has a different opinion and posts, they are attacked. There is a bit of an anti-Christian bent by some posters. I remember one poster using a really nasty term for Jesus Christ and you mentioning fundamentalist Christians. Would you consider this man a fundamentalist Christian.

[Link: www.templetonprize.org...]

If he came on this blog with an argument under the tag ChristianScientist, would you vilify him?

129 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:03:36am

re: #123 Mel Lono

My advice is to find the local conservatives who support what you believe in; for me that's lower taxes, a secure border, state's rights and no more bailouts, and then go out and support them with cash and time if you can. The Federalist Society is all about that. I am not sitting on my ass bemoaning the fact that Mr. McCain was the wrong man at the wrong time. Forgive my independent thought.

I've already found what I am looking for, and one of those is by voting. You seem to be the one in desperate search mode, not I.

130 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:04:03am

MA. universal heathcare monster threatens to eat state.

Another Socialist Experiment hits the fan.

131 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:04:09am

re: #115 zombie

Yet I take very little satisfaction in the inevitable 'I-told-you-so'....the stakes are just too goddamned high.

132 Crux Australis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:04:55am

re: #125 MrPaulRevere

As in Pamela Gellar?

133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:05:05am

re: #130 AuntAcid

MA. universal heathcare monster threatens to eat state.

Another Socialist Experiment hits the fan.

There is still a fan in MA? Wow, whoda thunk it?

134 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:07:14am

re: #128 beermeister

Idiotarians get short shrift here.

135 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:07:56am

re: #132 Crux Australis

Yes, and its a sad state of affairs. I used to give her clicks and thought she was useful when she documented the protests in NYC, but she has jumped the shark and is now an object of derision, and a liability to the anti-Jihad movement.

136 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:08:14am

re: #129 FurryOldGuyJeans

I voted on all local and state issues, just not for a man that did not represent what I believe in.

137 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:08:27am

re: #130 AuntAcid

MA. universal heathcare monster threatens to eat state.

Another Socialist Experiment hits the fan.


Sheisse! Good thing I set my abandoned property claim into motion. I'd be lucky if the Commonwealth had my unclaimed couple of hundred dollars by the time Cadillac Patrick got through with it....

138 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:09:15am

re: #112 FurryOldGuyJeans

Would that be a Brand X Troll, or a name brand one?

"Acme" troll. Beep, beep...

139 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:10:25am

re: #138 I Need A Bigger Gun

Aren't the Acme ones notoriously defective?

140 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:10:59am

re: #117 Mel Lono

re: #113 LeePro

Having had this discussion innumerable times in the past 8 months, I will only reiterate that my R vote in the People's Republic of California would have made as much impact as a gnat's ass on an elephant (oh my, the symmetry).

When you place the significance of your voting privilege on the solitary impact of your own single vote, you've already, sadly, lost the whole concept. I don't vote based on a false presumption that my single vote is going to create upheavals in the status quo, but because it is our right that contains within it a duty to stand up for our principles and the freedoms for which so many have fought and died. It frightens me to think that because so many lazy, cowardly, hopeless wimps DO NOT VOTE, we may very well lose that privilege in the long run!

*SPIT*

141 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:12:08am

re: #139 Fenway_Nation

Aren't the Acme ones notoriously defective?

Well yes. They tended to explode under any kind of preceived pressure. *sigh* It's so hard to find good trolls these days.

142 Mel Lono  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:13:14am

re: #140 LeePro

Maam... you offend. Good night, lizards. Tomorrow is another day.

143 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:14:52am

re: #142 Mel Lono

Maam... you offend. Good night, lizards. Tomorrow is another day.

Getting a different opinion bandied about offends you? Yeesh, what a wimp.

144 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:15:11am

re: #121 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hillary is getting her revenge for being shat upon, apparently. :)

YUP! B-Zero is nothing more than the Proxy Clinton 3rd Term
See here!

145 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:15:39am

re: #140 LeePro

When you place the significance of your voting privilege on the solitary impact of your own single vote, you've already, sadly, lost the whole concept. I don't vote based on a false presumption that my single vote is going to create upheavals in the status quo, but because it is our right that contains within it a duty to stand up for our principles and the freedoms for which so many have fought and died. It frightens me to think that because so many lazy, cowardly, hopeless wimps DO NOT VOTE, we may very well lose that privilege in the long run!

*SPIT*

I see someone isn't up to defending their choices they so casually made.

146 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:16:14am

re: #144 LeePro

YUP! B-Zero is nothing more than the Proxy Clinton 3rd Term
See here!

I see a lot of Carter 2 in the mix as well. ;)

147 stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:16:49am

re: #140 LeePro


well said Lee

148 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:17:46am

re: #147 stonemason

well said Lee

So well said it made someone leave in a Huff because they had their feelings hurt.

149 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:18:46am

re: #127 FurryOldGuyJeans

Your point? I just happen to agree with the sentiment. ;)

My point?

I agree with it, too, but it's plagiarism when you use a quote and don't attribute. Get it?

Biden thinks it's ok, too.

150 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:19:15am

re: #141 BlueCanuck

Well yes. They tended to explode under any kind of preceived pressure. *sigh* It's so hard to find good trolls these days.

We may have to depend on "rent-a-troll".

151 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:19:50am

re: #149 LeePro

My point?

I agree with it, too, but it's plagiarism when you use a quote and don't attribute. Get it?

Biden thinks it's ok, too.

I doubt Groucho would be offended with the lack of attribution.

152 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:20:40am

Good Early Morning, Lizard Nation-it's 41F and drizzlin here in San Antone.

For Cowboys Fans....

* The Hiway Patrol Officers are cracking down on speeders heading into Dallas.
For the first offense, they give you two Dallas Cowboys tickets.
If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Dallas Cowboys.

Q. What do the Dallas Cowboys and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 75,000 people stand up and yell, "Jesus Christ!"

Q. How do you keep a Dallas Cowboy out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. What's the difference between the Dallas Cowboys and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. What do the Cowboys and possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road.

153 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:21:00am

re: #148 FurryOldGuyJeans

Shoot, if we all left when our feelings were hurt there wouldn't be many of us here.

/thick skin and all that

154 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:21:26am

Bloody hell. Checking out my ISP goodies at Yahoo. I hadn't logged in and saw that there were comments to news articles. I remember once a while ago, after posting a link, some one mentioning how vile some of the comments were. Well seeing that there were now comments I logged in. Immeadiately after I logged in, I could no longer see comments. Nothing in the help subjects about this at all. All I can do is recommend articles. Must me a Canadian thing. :/

155 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:21:48am

re: #140 LeePro

Pity party at Mel's place.

I live in a hopelessly blue state as well, but I made it a point to walk the two miles to my polling station and back (4 miles rountrip)- partly so I wouldn't be tempted to listen to the MSM spinmeisters yammering away on the radio. Whenever I got winded, I thought of the voters in Iraq proudly showing off their purple fingers...or the less fortunate voters in Zimbabwe who are presently reaping the rewards of Mugabe's thugs threatening and assassinating opposition party members (i.e. cholera, sanctions and Weimar-like hyperinflation).

Yeah...McCain was #3 or #4 on my GOP depth chart, but I had a choice in the matter and chose not to stay home like a petulant little brat.

156 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:22:56am

re: #152 Pietr


LOL...being from Philly I must say I enjoyed that post. Now, that said, I must admit that the '08 iggles have got to be the luckiest team ever.

157 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:23:55am

re: #136 Mel Lono

I voted on all local and state issues, just not for a man that did not represent what I believe in.

...and by doing that, we got the one who will destroy what you/we believe in ! ! ! You're doing exactly what they want you to do!

Do you have enough brain cells to surround that thought?

158 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:24:32am

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

Stood in line for 2 hours in PA, and that was after we didn't even have a choice in the primaries. Voting is not just a right, it is a duty.

159 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:24:59am

re: #157 LeePro

...and by doing that, we got the one who will destroy what you/we believe in ! ! ! You're doing exactly what they want you to do!

Do you have enough brain cells to surround that thought?

The empirical evidence is lacking to support the potential assertion for the affirmative.

160 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:25:04am

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

but I made it a point to walk the two miles to my polling station and back (4 miles rountrip)

You forgot Uphill. Both ways.© ;-)

© Bill Cosby

161 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:25:11am

re: #138 I Need A Bigger Gun

"Acme" troll. Beep, beep...

re: #139 Fenway_Nation

Aren't the Acme ones notoriously defective?

Yes and yes.

162 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:26:14am

re: #152 Pietr

There was a scare at the Cowboys practice facitily in Oxnard at the start of this season. A suspicous white powder was discovered on the playing surface and the facitily was evacuated while law enforcement and a Haz-Mat team was called in. After extensive analysis, this white powder was what some people refer to as the "Goal Line". The decision was made to let the team back into the facility and take no further action, since it was unlikely they would find this "goal line" again.....

163 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:26:43am

re: #140 LeePro

When you place the significance of your voting privilege on the solitary impact of your own single vote, you've already, sadly, lost the whole concept. I don't vote based on a false presumption that my single vote is going to create upheavals in the status quo, but because it is our right that contains within it a duty to stand up for our principles and the freedoms for which so many have fought and died. It frightens me to think that because so many lazy, cowardly, hopeless wimps DO NOT VOTE, we may very well lose that privilege in the long run!

*SPIT*

Well said, indeed. A lot of us on this board gave up either many years of our lives or parts of our bodies (or both) so that people could continue to have the privilege of voting. For someone to willingly choose to ignore that is a slap in the face of us all.

164 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:27:27am

re: #158 Stonemason

Stood in line for 2 hours in PA, and that was after we didn't even have a choice in the primaries. Voting is not just a right, it is a duty.

The only right when it comes to voting is:

Bitchin' about some politician when you voted in the election and for the office, and your choice lost.

165 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:29:02am

re: #160 littleoldlady

You forgot Uphill. Both ways.© ;-)

© Bill Cosby

What about the rain and the snow?

166 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:30:10am

re: #142 Mel Lono

Maam... you offend. Good night, lizards. Tomorrow is another day.

What a lazy, cowardly, hopeless wimp... offended because I stand up for our most basic rights!

Turned tail and ran before we could even get the griddle hot!
>:->

167 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:30:25am

re: #164 FurryOldGuyJeans


Correct. There is a guy here at work that complains all the time about politicians, I asked him once who he voted for, he, of course, hadn't. Now he is ignored, not just by me, but by most of my fellow employees.

168 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:30:43am

re: #160 littleoldlady

re: #165 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nah...it was only uphill on the way back (nice f*cking allegory for the next 4 years, I guess) and partly cloudy.

169 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:30:56am

re: #166 LeePro

What a lazy, cowardly, hopeless wimp... offended because I stand up for our most basic rights!

Turned tail and ran before we could even get the griddle hot!
>:->

Wimp turned troll, oh my. ;)

170 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:36:52am

re: #147 stonemason

well said Lee

Hey, {Stone}! Thanks!
How ya doin'? Was it you quit smoking same time I did?

171 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:37:50am

re: #166 LeePro

It's a free country and he had the right to sit this one out....just don't ask me to respect him for squandering his more significant right at the polling station.

172 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:38:08am

Getting quiet....Hmmm...

Priceless

Jack wakes up with a huge hangover after attending his company's
Christmas Party. He didn't even remember how he got home from the party...


As bad as he was feeling, he wondered if he did something wrong. Jack
had to force himself to open his eyes, and the first thing he saw is a
couple of aspirins next to a glass of water on the side table. And, next
to them, a single red rose!


Jack sits up and sees his clothing in front of him, all clean and
pressed. He looks around the room and sees that it is in perfect order,
spotlessly clean. So is the rest of the house. He takes the aspirins,
cringes when he sees a huge black eye staring back at him in the
bathroom mirror.

Then he notices a note hanging on the corner of the mirror written in
red with little hearts on it and a kiss mark from his wife in lipstick:

'Honey, breakfast is on the stove, I left early to get groceries to make
you your favorite dinner tonight. I love you, darling! Love, Jillian. '

He stumbles to the kitchen and sure enough, there is hot breakfast,
steaming hot coffee and the morning newspaper. His son is also at the
table, eating.

Jack asks,' Son... what happened last night?'

'Well, you came home after 3 A.M., drunk out of your mind. You fell
over the coffee table and broke it, and then you puked in the hallway,
and got that black eye when you ran into the door.'

Confused, he asked his son, 'So, why is everything in such perfect order
and so clean? I have a rose, and breakfast is on the table waiting for me?'

His son replies, 'Oh THAT!...
Mom dragged you to the bedroom, and when she tried to take your pants off,
you screamed, 'Leave me alone bitch, I'm married!''


Broken Coffee Table $239.99
Hot Breakfast $4.20
Two Aspirins $.38
Saying the right thing, at the right time......PRICELESS

173 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:41:11am

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

Good for you, Fenway_Nation!

:D

174 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:41:17am

re: #172 Pietr


The Southern Comfort Nog can do that to a man.

175 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:42:32am

re: #166 LeePro

What a lazy, cowardly, hopeless wimp... offended because I stand up for our most basic rights!

Turned tail and ran before we could even get the griddle hot!
>:->

Well, that's what you get from "rent-a-troll": limited warranties.

176 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:43:31am

LeePro! :-)

Good grief! Is that YOU?

177 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:43:55am

re: #160 littleoldlady

OMG ! ! ! { { { littleoldlady } } }

It MUST be late! I gotta go to bed!

178 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:44:05am

re: #170 LeePro


Yup, that was me. Over a year now, doin great, you?

179 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:44:19am

re: #175 I Need A Bigger Gun

Well, that's what you get from "rent-a-troll": limited warranties.

I want my money back! Shoddy goods is not what I was promised! ;)

180 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:45:25am

re: #179 FurryOldGuyJeans

I want my money back! Shoddy goods is not what I was promised! ;)

I see you failed to read the super fine print. You know, that inkblot looking spot in the margin?

/HT Darkwing Duck

181 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:49:58am

re: #176 littleoldlady

LeePro! :-)

Good grief! Is that YOU?

: : : checking : : :

Yup, it's me! But gotta go SOON!

: : : blink blink : : :

182 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:51:32am

re: #178 Stonemason

Yup, that was me. Over a year now, doin great, you?

One year, one month, one week!

Proud as hell, but still craving! Will never really go away, I hear.

183 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:51:52am

re: #175 I Need A Bigger Gun

Well, that's what you get from "rent-a-troll": limited warranties.

Trolls have warranties? Like guaranteed not to explode/burn on the grill; or, comes with a 1 year supply of 'run-away-powder'? One learns so much here.....:>)

184 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:52:32am

re: #181 LeePro

8 minutes 'til fruitcup!

/hang in there.......

185 astronmr20  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:52:40am

Is it fruit cup time yet?

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:52:44am

re: #180 BlueCanuck

I see you failed to read the super fine print. You know, that inkblot looking spot in the margin?

/HT Darkwing Duck

I keeel you over the fine print! ;)

187 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:53:02am

re: #172 Pietr

Excellent! BTW, which part of good ole San Antone do you live in? My family has got a lot of history with that town. My dad did two tours at Lackland (50's and 60's), my brother was born at Wilfred Hall Hospital, and I graduated from Holmes High in '74. I even remember the World's Fair in '68. I remember being able to go outside and watch the daily progress as they built the Tower of the Americas. Haven't been there in a while, though. Used to live off N.E. Loop 410.

188 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:53:18am

re: #185 astronmr20

Is it fruit cup time yet?

Nope not yet.

/starts polishing spoon.

189 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:54:40am

Sigh, tomorrow I have my first lecture in this history class I'm taking entitled "Third Reich and the Jews", taught by someone who's parents were gassed during the Holocaust.

This class is going to be depressing as shit.

190 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:54:58am

re: #182 LeePro

One year, one month, one week!

Proud as hell, but still craving! Will never really go away, I hear.

The cravings stopped the next day the final time I quit, but then what do I know? ;)

191 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:55:39am

re: #179 FurryOldGuyJeans

I want my money back! Shoddy goods is not what I was promised! ;)

Sorry, you pay your money and you take your chances. ;)

192 astronmr20  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:56:00am

re: #189 TheMatrix31

Sigh, tomorrow I have my first lecture in this history class I'm taking entitled "Third Reich and the Jews", taught by someone who's parents were gassed during the Holocaust.

This class is going to be depressing as shit.

Well, hopefully someone there will learn something who needs to be shocked into reality. Don't think of it as depressing; rather, think of it as an opportunity to better understand the events happening around us today.

193 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:56:50am

re: #189 TheMatrix31

Sigh, tomorrow I have my first lecture in this history class I'm taking entitled "Third Reich and the Jews", taught by someone who's parents were gassed during the Holocaust.

This class is going to be depressing as shit.

Not necessarily...

194 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:56:55am

re: #191 I Need A Bigger Gun

Sorry, you pay your money and you take your chances. ;)

Man, are you saying we are stuck with the Messiah-King?!?

195 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:57:35am

re: #187 I Need A Bigger Gun

South side, just about a mile south of Kelly/Lackland AFB's. My daughter was a Southwest Dragon-Seems I remember Holmes are the 'Huskies', but memory may be faulty... You can see the tower from my area, depending on how clear the skyline is.

196 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:58:12am

re: #187 I Need A Bigger Gun


Got stuck in the Tower of the America's during a blackout while driving cross country after my discharge from the Army.

197 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:58:30am

re: #189 TheMatrix31

Sigh, tomorrow I have my first lecture in this history class I'm taking entitled "Third Reich and the Jews", taught by someone who's parents were gassed during the Holocaust.

This class is going to be depressing as shit.

Not to sound flippant about the subject, but I sure would not find it depressing to learn in-depth about such times. Better to know what happened to prevent anything like it from ever happening again.

198 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 1:59:27am

re: #189 TheMatrix31

Sigh, tomorrow I have my first lecture in this history class I'm taking entitled "Third Reich and the Jews", taught by someone who's parents were gassed during the Holocaust.

This class is going to be depressing as shit.

Time to start drinking heavily...

199 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

200 Render  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:10am

BANG!
Fruitcup.
GONE,
R

201 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:10am

re: #189 TheMatrix31

Sigh, tomorrow I have my first lecture in this history class I'm taking entitled "Third Reich and the Jews", taught by someone who's parents were gassed during the Holocaust.

This class is going to be depressing as shit.

Maybe not. You might be on the receiving end of some profound insights and wisdom!

Better to go in with a positive mindset!

202 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:11am

re: #196 Fenway_Nation

Got stuck in the Tower of the America's during a blackout while driving cross country after my discharge from the Army.

Hopefully, not in the elevator.....that's happened a few times recently. They're renovating right now, trying to put it back in top shape.

203 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:21am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Thanks, {littleoldlady}!

204 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:28am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Morning lol thank you.

205 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:46am

re: #189 TheMatrix31

No....depressing as shit is the blatant The Holocaust Never Happened And Even If It Did, What's A Couple Million Dead Jews? mindset that's the norm in most parts of the Middle East and being given a pseudo-scholarly veneer for future generations....

206 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:00:50am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Wow, one second after the uptick.

207 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:01:33am

re: #197 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not to sound flippant about the subject, but I sure would not find it depressing to learn in-depth about such times. Better to know what happened to prevent anything like it from ever happening again.

Oh of course. Trust me, I wouldn't be taking it if I didn't find the topic fascinating. I'm also taking a class in History of Germany in the 20th Century which I was in today (yesterday, for you people who have actually slept). I figure they're both going to be emotionally heavy yet very good to learn. The Third Reich class is taught by someone named Saul Friedlander, have any of you guys heard of him?

208 Panhandler  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:01:36am

re: #199 littleoldlady
YAY!

209 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:02:12am

RENDER! :-)

210 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:02:23am

re: #198 I Need A Bigger Gun

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be flippant, either.

211 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:02:34am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Thank'ee kindly M'am....now where's apachegunner with the Baileys for the coffee?

212 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:02:45am

re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans

Wow, one second after the uptick.

I always aim to be the first to ding the Fruitcup.

213 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:02:51am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Tanks for the joyful cup of fruit littleoldlady. It shall be consummed with gusto. :)

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:02:54am

re: #207 TheMatrix31

I'm just too much of a history geek to ever be depressed learning.

No, the name is not one I am familiar with, sorry.

215 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:03:17am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks Lil' one

Pat Burrel is a Ray, how depressing is that?

216 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:03:35am

re: #202 Pietr

No...mercifully it was on the way to the elevator.

Unmercifully I was with two goregeous medics from Ft. Sam Houston who were more than willing to take me on a Riverwalk (?) pub crawl prior to the weather turning slightly humid with intermittent electricity.

217 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:04:12am

re: #195 Pietr

It's been a while, but I think we WERE the Huskies. Man, where do the years go?

218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:04:25am

re: #212 Sharmuta

I always aim to be the first to ding the Fruitcup.

Ummm, what I meant was one second after the start of the hour, my bad.

Oh, I am so ashamed, I should hang my trollish head in shame and slink away. ;)

219 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:04:57am

re: #196 Fenway_Nation

Got stuck in the Tower of the America's during a blackout while driving cross country after my discharge from the Army.

Damn, that must have sucked.

220 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:05:10am

re: #214 FurryOldGuyJeans

I'm just too much of a history geek to ever be depressed learning.

No, the name is not one I am familiar with, sorry.

Saul Friedlander

221 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:05:30am

Sharmuta! :-)

Erik! :-)

FurryOldGuyJeans! :-)

/POWERBALL here I come!

Panhandler! :-)

Pietr! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Stonemason! :-)

/who?! ;-)

BTW, many thanks to those of you who served fruitcup (with such panache!) while I was away!

222 Panhandler  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:05:40am

re: #211 Pietr

Thank'ee kindly M'am....now where's apachegunner with the Baileys for the coffee?


Ya gotta expand your horizons dude.

223 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:05:45am

re: #218 FurryOldGuyJeans

No- it's my bad. I can't read anymore. Maybe it's my cue?

224 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:06:24am

re: #220 TheMatrix31

Still unfamiliar, but thankee for the linkee so I can correct that lack. :)

225 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:06:33am

re: #215 Stonemason

To me, that's somewhat more disconcerning than the $400+ million the Yankees spent on Teixera, Sabathia and Burnett.

/I doubt the Red Sox were wholeheartedly interested in the services of Teixera, but most likely went through the motions to drive up the price-tag for the Yankees.

226 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:06:52am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks!
So very good to "see" you again!
;D

G'nite, { { {EVERYBODY} } }!



~grabs fruitcup... slips out back door

227 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:08:15am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

To me, that's somewhat more disconcerning than the $400+ million the Yankees spent on Teixera, Sabathia and Burnett.

/I doubt the Red Sox were wholeheartedly interested in the services of Teixera, but most likely went through the motions to drive up the price-tag for the Yankees.

With Scott Boras as his agent, Teix's asking price was going to be high regardless.

**sigh** I should know, I'm a Braves fan.

228 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:09:19am

Matrix,

My grandparents were gassed at Auschwitz, and I know I could teach the Holocaust sans depression. Lots of people do.

/not a pleasant subject, of course, but it can be a real eye-opener
//also there's a TON of riveting literature on the subject

229 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:09:56am

Lee! :-)

It was great to see you! :-) Take care...

230 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:10:34am

re: #222 Panhandler

Nice-especially the interactive links internal to the site...:>)

231 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:10:35am

G'nite {LeePro}, weet dreams.

232 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:10:38am

re: #219 I Need A Bigger Gun

I wouldn't mind going back at some point. Maybe for the Alamo bowl or catch a Celts/Spurs game (who knows? NBA Finals?).

233 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:11:15am

re: #228 littleoldlady

{littleoldlady}

234 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:11:59am

re: #227 TheMatrix31

With Scott Boras as his agent, Teix's asking price was going to be high regardless.

**sigh** I should know, I'm a Braves fan.


Sarob Ttocs.

I hear if you trick him into saying his name backwards, he's banished back to his own dimension.

235 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:12:41am

re: #228 littleoldlady

Matrix,

My grandparents were gassed at Auschwitz, and I know I could teach the Holocaust sans depression. Lots of people do.

/not a pleasant subject, of course, but it can be a real eye-opener
//also there's a TON of riveting literature on the subject

Sorry to hear that. And yeah, apparently the teacher doesn't have any lecture notes or powerpoints or anything, just teaches straight from his brain. That should be really interesting.

Anyways, I'm going to watch some TV and pass out. Gotta wake up at 9:45 for an 11am class, and UCLA's only 10 minutes away from my house. Why "so early"? They gave me the furthest parking garage from my classes possible, so it's a 20 minute walk each way to and from my parking garage to classes.

236 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:13:22am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, were used to not paying for players here in Philly, But Pat was a Phillie from the get-go. I for one am gonna miss watching him play.

237 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:13:44am

re: #232 Fenway_Nation

I wouldn't mind going back at some point. Maybe for the Alamo bowl or catch a Celts/Spurs game (who knows? NBA Finals?).

That'd be nice to see...it is supposedly their year, but you know how 'Murphys' Law' always gets in the way...LOL.

238 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:16:19am

re: #233 Sharmuta

Sweetie! :-) Thanks.

239 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:17:28am

re: #236 Stonemason

talloldman was not happy about it either.

/but we've got Eagles fever here, so we're a bit distracted...

240 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:18:11am

re: #236 Stonemason


Yea....felt that way when Vaughn, Garciaparra and Trot Nixon left. For all the right moves the BoSox front office made, I think they're bound and determined to prove to the players and their agents that their decision-making is not the least bit encumbered by sentiment.

/Doesn't really bode well for Varitek- another Sarob Ttocs client.

BTW....is it true that there are some Philly fans would rather have played Boston for the WS title?

241 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:19:59am

re: #239 littleoldlady

talloldman was not happy about it either.

/but we've got Eagles fever here, so we're a bit distracted...


The Vikings Vaccine fell short. Looks like the only cure is some Panther Pennecillin.

/f*ck the Giants

242 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:20:45am

re: #238 littleoldlady

I didn't know that about your Grandparents. I'm sorry to hear that.

243 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:21:45am

The Vikings and the Eagles. Could there be two bigger playoff choke teams in football?

244 Smilla  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:23:24am
And now some of us laugh at outer space. God help us... in the future.

— Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space

Ever wondered about time travel? My brother made the good point that if people from the future can travel back in time, why haven't we met any of them? Or maybe some of you have....

245 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:23:38am

re: #237 Pietr


It's especially rewarding to see because the Lakers Fans most spolied, know-nothing, over-indulged fans in all of basketball tend to bitch and moan non-stop about what a boring team the Spurs are. Yet between the two, who has the more recent NBA title....?

246 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:25:35am

re: #243 Sharmuta

I would say the Cowboys and Broncos, but........you know....

Colts screwed the pooch pretty thoroughly against an 8-8 team. Looks like Payton's gonna cry himself to sleep over that MVP award and those bundles of $100 bills from all those commercials he did.

247 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:27:50am

re: #246 Fenway_Nation

I would say the Cowboys and Broncos, but........you know....

Colts screwed the pooch pretty thoroughly against an 8-8 team. Looks like Payton's gonna cry himself to sleep over that MVP award and those bundles of $100 bills from all those commercials he did.

Yeah- kind of like Tiger Woods when he comes in as a runner up. The poor guys.

248 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:31:51am

re: #242 Sharmuta

Not just grandparents. Aunts, uncles, cousins, too. The cousins part is bad because they were all babies or toddlers. But I'm lucky in that both my parents came from huge families and a lot of them survived - either the concentration camps or because both sets of grandparents started sending their kids to live with family in the U.S. in the late 1930s. Some families got wiped out completely.

The worst part of it - to be perfectly honest - was living with a mother who is an Auschwitz survivor. Then again - to be brutally honest - I'm not so sure my mother wasn't born nuts. ;-)

A sense of humor is critical, either way, and I inherited my father's DNA. :-)

249 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:32:44am

re: #245 Fenway_Nation


And the Dallas Mavericks, or Phoenix Suns-I get truly annoyed with Suns fans....guess it just shows that throwing money at the game, doesn't buy you all the rings....:>)

250 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:34:27am

re: #244 Smilla

Present me is gonna have to get in touch with 2007 me to let 2007 me know that he should take the money from selling his Ford Ranger and put it all in James River Coal [NASDAQ: JRCC] until July 2008, then pull all that money out and put in Alaska Air [NYSE: ALK] until October, then lock in some gold bullion at under $700 an ounce while all those hedge funds were de-leveraging simultaneously.

And put money on Oregon St. vs USC this year, Texas Tech over Texas and Utah over 'Bama in the Sugar Bowl....

/And pay off those credit-card bills and offer to walk that one particularly buxom woman to her car who really seemed to know her football despite being a Chargers fan

251 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:35:44am

re: #248 littleoldlady

You make me want to cry and laugh all in one comment! I love you, lol.

252 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:38:11am

re: #251 Sharmuta

Sharmuta,

Hitler failed. I am living, walking proof!

Living well is the best revenge.

253 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:41:03am

re: #252 littleoldlady


Just as Hamas, Hezbollah and their benefactors shall fail.

254 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:42:06am

re: #253 Fenway_Nation

Just as Hamas, Hezbollah and their benefactors shall fail.

From your lips, to Gods' ear.........

255 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:44:42am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Hear, hear! One of my favourite expressions. Also it's even better if the target(s) KNOW you are living better.

256 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:45:51am

Did Rancher catch Rustler and string him up? I'm kinda used to him keeping the pauses short, at this time of morning-but his input is missing today.....:>(

257 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:46:17am

Lil ole Lady... how bout if you serve some burbon and steak some times?
... the fruit cups give me the runs.

258 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:49:10am

re: #257 shanec99

If you want Steak and Eggs, Bourbon w/branch water-you have to go to the kitchen, and fix it yourself. No grill take out from the Bar area....LOL.

259 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:49:15am

re: #256 Pietr

Don't know. I think that Rustler is mostly on a night shift. May be he's off today.

260 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:50:00am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Only if you feel compelled to participate in evolution/ID debate threats which you do not particularly enjoy.

261 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:52:06am

re: #245 Fenway_Nation

It's especially rewarding to see because the Lakers Fans most spolied, know-nothing, over-indulged fans in all of basketball tend to bitch and moan non-stop about what a boring team the Spurs are. Yet between the two, who has the more recent NBA title....?


I don't know... I like exciting basketball... the Magic years with Worthy, Kareen, Cooper et al were exciting to watch... and they were a dominant team... much like the Jordan years with the Bulls.
And to call the Spurs boring with the crafty Frenchman and flashy Argentinian... means you dont understand the game.

262 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:53:24am

re: #257 shanec99

You really don't know who you're dealing with, do you?

PHILLY GIRL

Three men were sitting together bragging about how they had given their
new wives duties.

The first man had married a woman from Texas, and told her that she was
going to do dishes and house cleaning.

It took a couple days, but on the third day he came home to a clean
house and dishes washed and put away.

The second man had married a woman from Nebraska.

He had given his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning,
dishes, and the cooking.

The first day he didn't see any results, but the next day he saw it was
better.

By the third day, he saw his house was clean, the dishes were done, and
there was a huge dinner on the table.

The third man had married a girl from Philadelphia.

He told her that her duties were to keep the house clean, dishes washed,
laundry washed and hot meals on the table for every meal.

He said the first day he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't
see anything, but by the third day some of the swelling had gone down
and he could see a little out of his left eye, enough to fix himself a
sandwich and load the dishwasher.

263 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:53:34am

re: #258 Pietr

If you want Steak and Eggs, Bourbon w/branch water-you have to go to the kitchen, and fix it yourself. No grill take out from the Bar area....LOL.


Darn... can't a lizard get some love around here?

264 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:55:22am

re: #261 shanec99

I've never understood those who think games should be all offense, and high scores. watching 2 teams play an offensive and defensive game is EXCITING, IMHO.

265 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:55:42am

re: #262 littleoldlady
Baby, do you use whips and chains? I might enjoy some of that too.

266 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:55:45am

re: #263 shanec99

Darn... can't a lizard get some love around here?

Sorry, wrong blog for that. And no, I don't know where that "other" blog is either.

/that's my story and I am sticking to it.
//white smoke

267 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:58:18am

re: #266 BlueCanuck
Man... ya'll is (yes I know ... grammer) a tough croud up in here. Give a Lizard sum luv ya'll.

268 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:59:02am

I usually make a small effort to buy more Israel, when the country is in distress or there are renewed calls international boycott. I’m happily surprised that my local, fairly large, supermarket in Copenhagen has started to stock more Israel products. Apparently I’m not alone.

269 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:59:55am

re: #264 Pietr
I enjoy a clean, well played, up tempo game without the flopping and chicanery.

270 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:01:42am

re: #266 BlueCanuck

Spoken like a true honco.

271 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:02:42am

re: #268 Rune

I usually make a small effort to buy more Israel, when the country is in distress or there are renewed calls international boycott. I’m happily surprised that my local, fairly large, supermarket in Copenhagen has started to stock more Israel products. Apparently I’m not alone.


Does anyone know of a national grocery chain in the US that carries a lot of products from Israel? If you do let me know, so I can shop at them when I get back home.

272 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:03:33am

re: #270 Sharmuta

Spoken like a true honco.


Now what is a honco?

273 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:04:30am

re: #272 shanec99

Now what is a honco?

Honco

274 rightside  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:07:46am

Morning Lizards!

275 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:08:18am

re: #273 Sharmuta

Honco


So I am a sickening honco because I support Israel's effort to preserve its identity and ensure its own survival?
Hell... where can I get a shirt that says: "Honco and proud of it"

276 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:09:16am

re: #274 rightside

Morning Lizards!


Morning swabbie. Revielle, revielle... all hand heave out... and all trhat good stuff.

277 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:10:09am

re: #271 shanec99

Don't know of a national one but if you're in south western Ohio I know one

278 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:10:37am

Godd Morning LGF.

279 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:10:51am

Everyone remember to vote!

280 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:11:28am

re: #277 Neo Con since 9-11

Don't know of a national one but if you're in south western Ohio I know one


Long drive... home for me in the states is Md. Close to D.C.

281 rightside  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:11:46am

re: #276 shanec99

That brings back some memories!

282 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:11:59am

rightside! :-)

Neo Con! :-)

Spare O'Lake! :-)

283 Smilla  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:12:13am

re: #279 Sharmuta
I have, and it felt good.

284 rightside  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:12:32am

re: #280 shanec99

Damn, I am not that far from you.

285 rightside  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:12:43am

re: #282 littleoldlady

{lol}

286 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:13:17am

re: #279 Sharmuta

Everyone remember to vote!


Anything you say Sharm... especially after Lil ol Lady threatened me with violence after I told her the fruitcups gave me the runs.

287 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:14:33am

re: #286 shanec99

Anything you say Sharm... especially after Lil ol Lady threatened me with violence after I told her the fruitcups gave me the runs.

Hon- that's just TMI.

288 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:14:41am

Fox and Friends wanted to know how the election board in Mn can certify ballots from 25 precincts, where more ballots were submitted than there were voters on election day....

item 2.) 4 yr old shoots babysitter for stepping on his toes.....

you can't make this stuff up......SIGH

289 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:14:44am

re: #284 rightside

Damn, I am not that far from you.


Home is Gaithersburg in Maryland... used to be stationed at Bethesda, so I bought my home there... where are you?

290 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:14:44am

re: #286 shanec99

littleoldlady never threatens.

/she promises. . . . .
//white smoke. :)

291 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:15:40am

re: #287 Sharmuta

Hon- that's just TMI.


Yeah... the information about the black eyes scared the crap outa me too... it was too graphic.

292 rightside  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:15:52am

re: #289 shanec99

Just inside Va down 301...spent lots of time at Bethesda though...listened to WJFK 106.7 a lot

293 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:16:29am

re: #280 shanec99

Long drive... home for me in the states is Md. Close to D.C.

Try Giant.

294 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:16:35am

re: #290 BlueCanuck

littleoldlady never threatens.

/she promises. . . . .
//white smoke. :)


Stop encouraging me... I dont want to be beaten because I asked for some steak and bourbon.

295 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:17:58am

re: #289 shanec99

I went thru a school for Uncle at the Watkins-Johnson plant up that way....circa 1978, IIRC.

296 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:18:07am

re: #232 Fenway_Nation

I wouldn't mind going back at some point. Maybe for the Alamo bowl or catch a Celts/Spurs game (who knows? NBA Finals?).


Or you could come down here to Orlando for the Eastern Conference Finals. :)

297 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:19:27am

re: #290 BlueCanuck

Truth in Advertising.

;-)

298 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:19:28am

re: #293 littleoldlady

Try Giant.


Giant... yeah I shop there... small Kosher area... I want to really support Israel... much like I stocked up on Danish cookies (my neices learned to hate Danish cookies during that time) during the cartoon car-be-que period.

299 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:20:53am

re: #298 shanec99

Shaul's?

300 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:21:03am

re: #292 rightside

Just inside Va down 301...spent lots of time at Bethesda though...listened to WJFK 106.7 a lot


I listen to 630 am WMAL... Rush, Sean, Mark... the whole gang.

301 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:21:24am

re: #299 littleoldlady

Shaul's?


Where is that?

302 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:22:11am

re: #294 shanec99

Well, we do have a BBQ kicking around here some where. Should still be warm from the hope of a good troll. Bourbon you have to bring yourself. Glasses and ice shoud be behind the bar though. And be sure to try some of the redc1c4 fruitcup. It may not be bourbon, but it sure packs a wallop.

303 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:23:07am

re: #299 littleoldlady

Shaul's?


Hmmm looks like a winner in Rockville. Gotta check it out.

304 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:24:28am

Just received this email from a friend. I am still LMAO. If it to offensive please report to Charles so he can delete.


A Moslem has died and has arrived in Heaven. He is very excited as, all his life he has longed to meet the Prophet Mohammed.

Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, he meets a man with a beard.

'Are you Mohammed?' he asks

'No, my son. I am Peter. Mohammed is higher up'.

And he points him to a ladder that rises into the clouds.

Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, he climbed the ladder in great strides.

He meets another bearded man.

Full of hope, he asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'

'No, I am Jesus. Mohammed is higher up still'. Mohammed higher than Jesus! The poor man can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher.

Once again, he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:

'Are you Mohammed?'

'No, I am Moses. Mohammed is higher still.' Exhausted but with heart full of joy, he continues to climb the ladder and, yet again, he meets a man with a beard.

'Are you Mohammed?' he gasps, as he is by now totally out of breath from all his climbing.

'No, my son. I am God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a

coffee?'

'Yes please, my Lord'

God looks behind him, claps his hands and calls out:

'Mohammed, two coffees please.'

305 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:24:45am

re: #302 BlueCanuck

Well, we do have a BBQ kicking around here some where. Should still be warm from the hope of a good troll. Bourbon you have to bring yourself. Glasses and ice shoud be behind the bar though. And be sure to try some of the redc1c4 fruitcup. It may not be bourbon, but it sure packs a wallop.


heh heh... now you gett'n my drift... something to kill the intestinal worms, loosen up the lips and keep the joints spry.

306 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:28:28am

re: #304 Erik The Red

You should be beheaded for that! //////////

307 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:34:31am

re: #306 Sharmuta

You should be beheaded for that! //////////

Fortunately, his 'Nom de Plume' gives him some protection from the many Fatwahs read against him.....

/white smoke....

308 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:34:37am

Are we sure this is the Democratic Obama?
He is proposing $500 tax cut for individuals
$1,000 for couples if one spouse is working
$100 million for businesses
[Link: news.yahoo.com...] the loonie left are gonna be mad at him... less money for them to expand government.

309 NYCHardhat  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:36:08am

re: #308 shanec99

Are we sure this is the Democratic Obama?
He is proposing $500 tax cut for individuals
$1,000 for couples if one spouse is working
$100 million for businesses
[Link: news.yahoo.com...] the loonie left are gonna be mad at him... less money for them to expand government.


When he runs out of money, he will raise taxes. Give back a billion while taking a trillion. Obama is such an intellectual./

310 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:37:31am

re: #304 Erik The Red

Just received this email from a friend. I am still LMAO. If it to offensive please report to Charles so he can delete.


A Moslem has died and has arrived in Heaven. He is very excited as, all his life he has longed to meet the Prophet Mohammed.

Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, he meets a man with a beard.

'Are you Mohammed?' he asks

'No, my son. I am Peter. Mohammed is higher up'.

And he points him to a ladder that rises into the clouds.

Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, he climbed the ladder in great strides.

He meets another bearded man.

Full of hope, he asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'

'No, I am Jesus. Mohammed is higher up still'. Mohammed higher than Jesus! The poor man can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher.

Once again, he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:

'Are you Mohammed?'

'No, I am Moses. Mohammed is higher still.' Exhausted but with heart full of joy, he continues to climb the ladder and, yet again, he meets a man with a beard.

'Are you Mohammed?' he gasps, as he is by now totally out of breath from all his climbing.

'No, my son. I am God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a

coffee?'

'Yes please, my Lord'

God looks behind him, claps his hands and calls out:

'Mohammed, two coffees please.'


Eric... are you related to Theo Van Gogh? You are taking a chance, they lurk out there, watching, sulking, seething... and praying for an opportunity to react with rage for insulting the Prophet.

311 NYCHardhat  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:38:19am

re: #310 shanec99

Eric... are you related to Theo Van Gogh? You are taking a chance, they lurk out there, watching, sulking, seething... and praying for an opportunity to react with rage for insulting the Prophet.

Fuck Mohammed.

312 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:40:06am

re: #311 NYCHardhat

Fuck Mohammed.


Wouldn't do that to him... I prefer women. My taste, and I wont try to get the 72 virgins either.

313 NYCHardhat  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:41:08am

re: #312 shanec99

Wouldn't do that to him... I prefer women. My taste, and I wont try to get the 72 virgins either.

I would rather it be Michelle Malkin.

314 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:41:16am

Read this over at The Corner:

"Rally Today to Support Israel - Today at 12:30 there will be a rally in front of the Israeli Embassy at 3514 International Dr. NW, Washington DC"

315 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:41:19am

re: #308 shanec99

Are we sure this is the Democratic Obama?
He is proposing $500 tax cut for individuals
$1,000 for couples if one spouse is working
$100 million for businesses
[Link: news.yahoo.com...] the loonie left are gonna be mad at him... less money for them to expand government.

From the link:

The Obama plan's tax cuts for individuals and couples would be a bit different from the rebate checks sent out last year by the Bush administration and Congress in a bid to boost the slowing economy. The relief this time around would be awarded by withholding less from worker paychecks. That provision would cost about $140-150 billion over two years.

Damn, that language pisses me off! Cost? Cost?! It's not costing a damn thing for people to keep their own frickin' money! How about the msm and Washington get something straight- allowing Americans to keep their own money is not an expense.

316 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:41:48am

re: #311 NYCHardhat

Fuck Mohammed.

Thanks Hardhat for moving the spot light to you, with that comment/

317 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:42:25am

re: #268 Rune

Over here, there's been a call for companies and universities to divest themselves of any stock in their 401(k) plans of companies that provide military equipment to the IDF or IAF...

This would include

General Electric [NYSE: GE]
Oshkosh Heavy-Duty Trucks [NYSE: OSK]
Boeing Aircraft [NYSE: BA]
Caterpillar- a particular favorite of the moonbats ever since Rachel Corrie decided to play Chicken with one of their products and came in 2nd best [NYSE: CAT]
General Dynamics [NYSE: GD]
Raytheon Corporation [NYSE: RTN]
Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT]
Bell-Textron [NYSE: TXT]

I like to think of it as the insipid moonbats thoughtfully providing me with a buy list, since these revelations that they provide equipment and armamanets to Israel may affect my decision-making- just not in the way that they intended.

There's also Israeli-based companies that are publicly traded, such as:

Blue Square [NYSE: BSI]
Cellcom Israel [NYSE: CEL]
ISRAMCO Inc [NASDAQ: ISRL]
Zion Oil & Gas [AMEX: ZN]

Not to mention financial insturments like Bonds issued by the State of Israel.

Or you could go a little more grassroots and arrange something like a nice, hot pizza for some of the frontline IDF soldiers.

318 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:42:33am

re: #313 NYCHardhat

I would rather it be Michelle Malkin.


She is lovely and smart... isn't she?

319 NYCHardhat  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:42:35am

re: #316 Erik The Red

Thanks Hardhat for moving the spot light to you, with that comment/

I got broad shoulders.

320 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:42:46am

re: #312 shanec99

Wouldn't do that to him... I prefer women. My taste, and I wont try to get the 72 virgins either.

Heard somewhere once that virgins are boring. Wouldn't know that, but I have no desire to find out.

321 NYCHardhat  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:42:54am

re: #318 shanec99

She is lovely and smart... isn't she?

Yes. Yes she is.

322 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:44:45am
Eric... are you related to Theo Van Gogh? You are taking a chance, they lurk out there, watching, sulking, seething... and praying for an opportunity to react with rage for insulting the Prophet.

The joke is obviously attempting to be insulting, but actually I don't think any Muslim would find it so. It is no insult, even for a prophet, being servant to God.

323 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:44:46am

re: #318 shanec99

She is lovely and smart... isn't she?

I was heartbroken when I found out she was already married!

(but then again, there was that whole pesky Mrs. SATTV4U2 issue also)

324 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:45:57am

re: #312 shanec99

Wouldn't do that to him... I prefer women. My taste, and I wont try to get the 72 virgins either.

re: #320 BlueCanuck

Heard somewhere once that virgins are boring. Wouldn't know that, but I have no desire to find out.

Show me a religion that promises half a dozen slutty broads if I off myself, THEN you've got something!

325 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:48:20am

re: #317 Fenway_Nation

Probably would not be a good idea for them to do that given the current share prices of some of those companies. If they do, the market better have a darn good year to make up for all the capital losses those funds, universities etc. are going to take. I'm no market genius but I don't think 2009 will be much better than 2008. We haven't even begun to feel the effects of the "printing spree" that Bernake and Paulson went on with the dollar. Obama is only going to print more money and drive us further into debt so I don't see a lot of upside in spite of what the business talking heads want us to believe. If history is any guide, 1929 was terrible, 1930 was pretty bad to. This time around it's a lot worse and I don't think we have begun to experience the pain that is coming. For all our sakes, I hope I am wrong but the only light at the end of the tunnel I see right now is an oncoming inflation train.

326 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:49:47am

re: #324 sattv4u2

I keep thinking why are all 72 still virgins?

327 littleoldlady  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:50:09am

Here's a good site with a ton of info: Support the Israeli Economy

328 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:50:26am

re: #326 BlueCanuck

I keep thinking why are all 72 still virgins?

They are Houris- perpetual virgins.

329 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:51:24am

re: #328 Sharmuta

They are Houris- perpetual virgins.

Ugh, even worse. :p

330 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:52:12am

re: #328 Sharmuta

They are Houris- perpetual virgins.

Perpetual-or Professional-(maybe BOTH?)......

/white smoke....

331 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:52:45am

re: #326 BlueCanuck

I keep thinking why are all 72 still virgins?

They wish they looked as pretty as Helen Thomas!

332 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:56:26am

Houri

The houri have variously been described as being "chaste females", "restraining their glances", "modest gaze", "wide and beautiful/lovely eyes", "like pearls", "virgins", "with large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang", "companions of equal age", "non-menstruating/urinating/defecating and childfree", "60 cubits [27.5 meters] tall", "7 cubits [3.2 meters] in width", "transparent to the marrow of their bones", "eternally young", "hairless except the eye brows and the head", "pure", "beautiful", "white","splendid" and much more besides.

Transparent sounds.... kinky.

333 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:58:10am

re: #331 sattv4u2

They wish they looked as pretty as Helen Thomas!

Be nice...age has been unkind to her... let me see if I can find that tintype of her as a teen in the 1890's-she was a looker then.....

/white smoke......

334 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:58:13am

re: #315 Sharmuta

Damn, that language pisses me off! Cost? Cost?! It's not costing a damn thing for people to keep their own frickin' money! How about the msm and Washington get something straight- allowing Americans to keep their own money is not an expense.


Sharm... that is the MSM's problem... let them pout... it seems that Obama's advisers are giving him a dose of reality ... the lefty's must be enraged at this "betrayal".
The best we can hope for is that he betrays them some more.

335 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:59:46am

re: #334 shanec99

No- it's not the msm's problem, it's OUR problem when Washington thinks that you and I keeping our own money somehow costs them.

336 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:00:03am

re: #333 Pietr

Be nice...age has been unkind to her... let me see if I can find that tintype CAVE DRAWING of her as a teen in the Plesioc Era -she was a looker then.....

/white smoke......

337 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:01:05am

re: #324 sattv4u2

Show me a religion that promises half a dozen slutty broads if I off myself, THEN you've got something!


You might be on to something there, I might even volunteer to be the head prophet (just kidding), but I can promise you, my duties would not involve marrying a 9 year old.

338 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:01:17am

re: #318 shanec99

It's almost like she's the Hazel Mae of politics.

Or is Hazel Mae the Michelle Malkin of baseball?

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:02:18am

re: #335 Sharmuta

Not just Washington. Got my real-estate assessment yesterday. All property in my area just increased in value by 3%.

Locals keep telling us, "Aren't you lucky? We haven't had a tax increase in ten years."

Bastids!

340 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:03:27am

re: #335 Sharmuta

No- it's not the msm's problem, it's OUR problem when Washington thinks that you and I keeping our own money somehow costs them.


Yes, but the MSM is perpetuating the fallacy. That is why I said it is their problem... they have the problem... trying to pass the lie off as reality.

341 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:03:51am

Does anyone doubt that the majority of the humanitarian aid entering Gaza is being diverted by Hamas? Until Israel stops playing this public relations sucker game, it will actually be providing support and sustenance to the terrorists.

Does anyone doubt that Egypt is still allowing smuggling of weapons into Gaza via the tunnels, and that there are still some tunnels operating? Until Israel takes and holds the southern perimeter of Gaza there will be no way to prevent Hamas from rearming from the south. Cutting off the northward flow of missiles from the south by cutting Gaza in the middle will merely shift the launching to the south, and with the availability of longer ranged missiles the end result will be less than satisfactory.

Pending correction of these fundamental tactical weaknesses, the realistic objectives of the mission must remain compromised.

342 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:03:54am

Day 10

Not much to go into nor time to go into it.

The fighting is hard, good men have fallen or had their bodies destroyed fighting evil men.

Hamas threat against Jewish children worldwide is sinister and real; I have little doubt that someone somewhere will take up their cause in this way.

Prayers for Israel's soldiers, prayers for Gilad Shalit.

Believe in the victory!

343 Crux Australis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:08:25am

When I think about Australia in 2009 so much is out of Australia's hands right now.

Will China continue to purchase our mineral resources?
How will Obama do? Will the US get worse or better?
Will Australian property prices stop their slide and recover?
How much will unemployment rise?
Will peoples shares continue to decrease in value?

etc, etc,

344 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:09:06am

Just came across this new site, found from RedState. I have book marked and thought it me be of interest to other Lizards.Shadow Government

345 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:09:55am

re: #332 Sharmuta

Houri
..."60 cubits [27.5 meters] tall", "7 cubits [3.2 meters] in width"...

That, I've never quite understood.
They're built like a giant Sequoia.

A transparent virginal giant Sequoia.

(No wonder they can't get a date.)

346 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:10:49am

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not just Washington. Got my real-estate assessment yesterday. All property in my area just increased in value by 3%.

Locals keep telling us, "Aren't you lucky? We haven't had a tax increase in ten years."

Bastids!

If I could sell my property for its assessed value, I would in a heart beat. I suspect its real value is about 30% less than the assessed value.

347 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:11:19am

Good morning.

The futures market is pointing up fractionally this morning, the Nikkei was up slightly while the Hang Seng was down slightly.

And I can't wait for the political freak show known as Illinois politics to get started today with Burris trying to be sworn in and seated today.

348 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:12:19am

re: #340 shanec99

Yes, but the MSM is perpetuating the fallacy. That is why I said it is their problem... they have the problem... trying to pass the lie off as reality.

But- there are still people that believe in the msm bullshit! The election is proof!

349 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:12:29am

re: #345 Dar ul Harb

Something tells me that Mohammed (piss be upon him) not only was illiterate, but he had troubles with numbers as well.

350 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:14:53am

re: #324 sattv4u2

Show me a religion that promises half a dozen slutty broads if I off myself, THEN you've got something!

They are not slutty as such, but someone’s very very weird idea of a sexual fantasy. In addition to being described as "chaste females", with "modest gaze", "pure", "virgins", "untouched / with hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse" and all that they are described as "voluptuous/full-breasted", "with large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang", with "appetising vaginas" and the really weird: "non-menstruating/urinating/defecating and childfree", "hairless", "white", "transparent to the marrow of their bones", "27.5 metres tall", "3.2 metres in width" and "revirginating".

= Gigantic big hairless transparent women with big tits and a new hymen every morning. And very shy.

re: #326 BlueCanuck

I keep thinking why are all 72 still virgins?

They are virgins because they are magically able to revirginize themselves every morning. An unbroken hymen apparently being considered very important.

351 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:15:00am

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not just Washington. Got my real-estate assessment yesterday. All property in my area just increased in value by 3%.

Locals keep telling us, "Aren't you lucky? We haven't had a tax increase in ten years."

Bastids!

According to the "mark to market" standard that helped contribute to all this economic trouble, your real estate value could down by 20%.

But they want you to pay taxes on a 3% growth.

352 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:16:47am

Also curious how NESN (New England Sports Network) replaced Hazel Mae with Naoko Funayama.

It's like they somehow know there's a subset of Boston sports fans who have a strong preference towards Asian women...

/Either that or they were looking for someone fluent in Japanese who could speak to Dice-K or Ohkajima without needing a translator.

353 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:17:22am

re: #347 3 wood

Good morning.

The futures market is pointing up fractionally this morning, the Nikkei was up slightly while the Hang Seng was down slightly.

And I can't wait for the political freak show known as Illinois politics to get started today with Burris trying to be sworn in and seated today.


This could be the best show EVAH!
Reid's office is in charge of parceling out offices for "new" senators. Franken will prolly get a choice one with Reid figuring A) he's "beat" and is replacing a republican and B) Franken being media savvy could be front and center when it comes to TV/Radio appearences.
Meanwhile, Burris who is NOT wanted by Reid could be assinged a broom closet in the basement!

Garc'on,,,, Popcorn please !

354 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:20:14am

re: #353 sattv4u2


Plaxico Burres got 0bama's vacant senate seat?

/Can't wait to hear his thoughts on gun control

355 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:21:07am

re: #349 BlueCanuck

Something tells me that Mohammed (piss be upon him) not only was illiterate, but he had troubles with numbers as well.


Why would that surprise you? Even in a modern world where information is readily available literacy in many Arab nations is less than 60%. 1400 years ago, the literacy rate would have been much lower than today, so the possibility that Mohammed was illiterate was high.

It is only the industrial revolution's need for oil that has provided the Arabian peninsula the capital for development that is helping to drag the majority of Arabs reluctantly out of backwardness, tribalism and ignorance. It is a difficult and tedious process that is hampered by deep suspicions and ignorance.

356 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:21:12am

re: #349 BlueCanuck

Or enjoyed straining the credulity of his audience.

Hey, no kidding, that's what Al-lah said. You die fighting for me, and ...you'll see.

357 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:22:29am

re: #350 Rune
Good grief... what idiocy.

358 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:23:07am

re: #354 Fenway_Nation

Plaxico Burres got 0bama's vacant senate seat?

/Can't wait to hear his thoughts on gun control

"hold the damn thing wif TWO hands next time" !

359 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:23:40am

re: #350 Rune

lighten up, Francis!

360 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:23:58am

Guess I'll see if putting a video up works.......2008 review:


Youtube Video
361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:25:53am

re: #351 3 wood

Silver lining thing. Officials are finally starting to admit (at least in our area) that it has very little to do with property value and assessments. They figure out how much money they need and calculate the assessment that way.

362 nonic  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:28:26am

From The Pennsylvania Gazette, alumnai magazine of the University of Pennsylvania:

The Rise of the Female Right
What Sarah Palin’s candidacy says about
the growing role of women in conservative politics.

[Link: www.upenn.edu...]

"The history of the United States is rich with examples of women organizing to oppose feminist activism and to engage in conservative and right-wing activities. Female activists challenged other women’s attempts to win suffrage, formed into Women of the Ku Klux Klan, and perhaps mostly famously, led a successful campaign against the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA)."

363 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:30:52am

Banks are tightening lending standards:

Banks’ ‘Catatonic Fear’ Means Consumers Don’t Get TARP Relief

Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- As the new owner of $172.5 billion of preferred shares and warrants in 208 U.S. financial institutions, the Treasury Department hasn’t succeeded in thawing frozen credit markets, leaving taxpayers propping up an industry that won’t lend to them.

But the reason for the lack of lending is that banks are tightening their standards.

In its most recent quarterly Senior Loan Officer Opinion Survey in October, the Fed reported that about 85 percent of U.S. banks said they had tightened standards on commercial and industrial loans to companies with more than $50 million in annual sales, up from 60 percent in July. Ninety-five percent said they increased the cost of those loans. About 70 percent said they made it more difficult to obtain prime mortgages, and almost 65 percent said they did the same for consumer loans.

I actually think that is a good thing long term. Otherwise, we would have a splurge of more spending, based on bad loans made to shaky borrowers. But then when some of those loans would go bad, we would be back in the soup, this time with no more bullets in the gun to deal with it.

But some people think the banks should be handing out money like welfare checks:

“We own them now, and we should use that to make sure they stop ripping us off,” said Gail Hillebrand, head of the financial-services campaign at Consumers Union, an advocacy group based in Yonkers, New York. “We shouldn’t allow banks to use the money to support things that hurt consumers and taxpayers. What we’re looking for is responsible behavior, not social benefits.”

Bank profits or returns on the government investments are secondary concerns, Hillebrand said.

However, that view is not accepted by all:

That view is opposed by free-market advocates such as Gary Becker, a professor of economics and sociology at the University of Chicago and a Nobel Prize winner, who says the primary aim of the government bailout should be a hasty withdrawal from investments that shouldn’t have been made in the first place.

“If you believe in a private-enterprise system, you use competition to control the banks, not a stakeholding,” Becker said. “It would be a grave mistake to use these private institutions for social goals.”

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:31:24am

re: #362 nonic

See? Right wing = KKK.

Nice. Sure there weren't any other examples.

365 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:33:19am

Well, time to vacate the premises. Have a good day and stay scaly and warm.

366 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:34:07am

re: #365 BlueCanuck

Well, time to vacate the premises. Have a good day and stay scaly and warm.

Find a sunny spot to bask, BC......

367 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:36:17am

re: #361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Silver lining thing. Officials are finally starting to admit (at least in our area) that it has very little to do with property value and assessments. They figure out how much money they need and calculate the assessment that way.

The system is backward. Governments decide how much of your money they would like to have, then pass their tax levy requests and give them to the assessor. The assessor then has to generate that money by backing into the tax rates and taxable value needed to generate that money.

To do it right (I know this would never happen though) you should have the process reversed, the assessor develops the amount of revenue that can be generated on a supportable valuation and tax level, and then the governements are told this is what you have to live on.

The way the system works now, it's like shopping with somebody else's credit card.

368 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:36:19am

re: #343 Crux Australis

When I think about Australia in 2009 so much is out of Australia's hands right now.

Will China continue to purchase our mineral resources?
How will Obama do? Will the US get worse or better?
Will Australian property prices stop their slide and recover?
How much will unemployment rise?
Will peoples shares continue to decrease in value?

etc, etc,

Hello Crux! How did you cope with the heatwave today? I spent the day in fridge like conditions at my work place, all rugged up while our patients (dressed for a hot day) froze while waiting for the doc to see them

Word of mouth from my daughter, massive job losses in the finance and insurance sectors - eg 500 jobs gone from AMP before Christmas yet there doesn't seem to be any news about this

Unemployment figures come out when?

369 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:36:52am

re: #363 3 wood

Perhaps it's because I have a very good credit score, but during this '"crisis" I had no truoble getting approved for both a second home (actually 3rd) mortgage as well as a new car loan
Mortgage is for an investment property I'm going to do a minor re-hab on, then i'll rent/ lease it (already have 3 families with interest). I had 3 banks calling on an almost daily basis sweetening their offers.
The new car is thru a work credit/ union. Again, no hassel. As a matter of fact all was done over the phone/ fax

370 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:38:16am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See? Right wing = KKK.

Nice. Sure there weren't any other examples.

I predict that the MSM will eventually blame the right for the Burris fiasco.

371 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:39:33am

re: #369 sattv4u2

They have plenty of lending capacity for good risks.

What is happening is the market has rediscovered the concept of "risk".

372 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:43:07am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

A wonderful Prime Minister to be honoured by President Bush

FORMER prime minister John Howard will receive the US Presidential Medal of Freedom at a White House ceremony next week.

The award is said to be the highest civilian honour bestowed by a United States president.

Mr Howard is being honoured for his role in fighting terrorism and for standing by the US as an ally during his 11 years as prime minister.

The award also recognises the extremely close relationship that developed between Mr Howard and President Bush who dubbed the former Australian PM as a man of steel.

"Yes, I am honoured by it, more because of the compliment it pays to our country Australia," Mr Howard told ABC Radio.

"It's an indication of the very close relationship between our two countries and I'm very pleased that during the time as prime minister I was able to contribute too."

It was testament to the "very obvious" personal warmth between himself and President George W Bush.

What a wonderful gesture....

373 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:44:06am

The Ontario section of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, headed by Sid Ryan, has announced that CUPE will pass a resolution to boycott Israeli academics from teaching in Canada until and unless they first condemn the bombing of the Hamas-infested university in Gaza and they also condemn the Israeli invasion of Gaza in general.

Ryan promoted a CUPE boycott of Israel before, in 2006, and was ultimately forced to back down by negative public opinion. This time he claims to have grass-roots support - the resolution is being pushed by a Palestinian group.

Ryan and his anti-Semite infested union are an ongoing embarrassment and a growing threat to every decent Canadian.


[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

374 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:50:11am

re: #372 aussiemagpie

I think (hope) that in 10-15 years history will look upon President Bush very different than he's percieved now. I don't agree with him all the time, but I beleive he is genuine and honorable

375 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:52:17am

re: #373 Spare O'Lake

I would propose a boycot of CUPE but I doubt they have much of a presence in Atlanta Ga.

376 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:52:52am

re: #373 Spare O'Lake

"In response to an appeal from the Palestinian Federation of Unions of University Professors and Employees, we are ready to say Israeli academics should not be on our campuses unless they explicitly condemn


While Ms. Folk-Dawson said the resolution will protect the quality of education by preventing Israeli academics from professing biased views,

re: #373 Spare O'Lake

Don't these folks listent to themselves?

377 Crux Australis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:54:51am

re: #368 aussiemagpie

Hello Crux! How did you cope with the heatwave today? I spent the day in fridge like conditions at my work place, all rugged up while our patients (dressed for a hot day) froze while waiting for the doc to see them

Word of mouth from my daughter, massive job losses in the finance and insurance sectors - eg 500 jobs gone from AMP before Christmas yet there doesn't seem to be any news about this

Unemployment figures come out when?

The heat wasn't too bad until about 3 pm when the afternoon sun starts coming through my west facing windows - only have two fortunately. I took my Fathers advice and closed all the windows and doors and drew all the curtains.

The biggest job losses are going to be in the banking/finance/insurance sectors plus with last years school leavers coming on line as well should add to the unemployment figures. The next unemployment figures come out on the 15th.

378 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:56:20am

re: #376 MandyManners

re: #373 Spare O'Lake

Don't these folks listent to themselves?

They're too busy being anti semetic and avoiding doing their jobs

379 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:56:50am

re: #376 MandyManners

They want Jewish professors to condemn Israel for defending itself? Are the kidding me?
The stuff they must be smoking should be illegal if inhaled.

380 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:57:48am

re: #379 shanec99

They want Jewish professors to condemn Israel for defending itself? EXISTING. Are the kidding me?
The stuff they must be smoking should be illegal if inhaled.


more accurate!

381 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:01:31am

lively disagreement in Mo Land...lots of hyperbole

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

382 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:01:40am

re: #376 MandyManners

re: #373 Spare O'Lake

Don't these folks listent to themselves?

I guess they don't.
The utter hypocrisy of their position escapes them.
Their leaders are a toxic brew of socialists and third-world immigrants.

383 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:02:02am

re: #380 sattv4u2

more accurate!


Why thank you... so insightful.

384 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:02:28am

re: #374 sattv4u2

I think (hope) that in 10-15 years history will look upon President Bush very different than he's percieved now. I don't agree with him all the time, but I beleive he is genuine and honorable

Hi and it will be very interesting to see President Obama answer his critics, the ones who expect wholesale change, when they see him continue many of President Bush's policies - relabelled of course!

Yes he is an honourable man and I believe he has kept America safe from a major terrorist atack for 8 years

385 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:05:18am

re: #384 aussiemagpie

Hi and it will be very interesting to see President Obama answer his critics, the ones who expect wholesale change, when they see him continue many of President Bush's policies - relabelled of course!

Yes he is an honourable man and I believe he has kept America safe from a major terrorist atack for 8 years

I agree,The Jihadidst haven't been able to pull off another attack on the US but on the other hand I think that is partially the reason that London (subway) and Spain (trains) were attacked.

386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:05:55am

re: #377 Crux Australis

This may sound dumb...but don't they have super windows down there. Can't you spend a few grand and protect the inside of your house from the outside?

387 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:06:08am

re: #377 Crux Australis

The heat wasn't too bad until about 3 pm when the afternoon sun starts coming through my west facing windows - only have two fortunately. I took my Fathers advice and closed all the windows and doors and drew all the curtains.

The biggest job losses are going to be in the banking/finance/insurance sectors plus with last years school leavers coming on line as well should add to the unemployment figures. The next unemployment figures come out on the 15th.

Thanks for that information :-)

Our house was surprisingly cool when we got home from work, just perfect for the nanna nap before dinner!

388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:06:20am

I am just awful at the use of question marks?

389 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:07:13am

re: #388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am just awful at the use of question marks?

why, no opposable thumbs?

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:07:54am

re: #389 sattv4u2

why, no opposable thumbs?

My thumbs oppose Al Franken. Does that count?

391 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:08:19am

Panetta is the sacrificial diversion.

392 shanec99  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:10:59am

re: #374 sattv4u2
The left... I wonder if anything will ever make them happy?
Will prosperity make them happy?
Will an end to terrorism make them happy?
Will an America where the rule of law is adhered to and our law enforcement officials supported make them happy?

Does it appear that the left would rejoice in the triumph of Israel's enemies?
Does it appear that the left would throw a ticker tape parade if the American armed forces were to suffer a defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Please tell me what would make the left happy.

393 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:11:07am

Good morning. Mr Burris goes to Washington.
The humor level is rising.

394 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:12:27am

re: #393 opnion

Good morning. Mr Burris goes to Washington.
The humor level is rising.

see my #353

395 Crux Australis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:14:47am

re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This may sound dumb...but don't they have super windows down there. Can't you spend a few grand and protect the inside of your house from the outside?

I rent my apartment. I don't think the owners would spend the money just for a couple of months - only Jan/Feb are uncomfortably hot - of comfort.

396 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:14:52am

re: #394 sattv4u2

see my #353

Just read it & I think that your right. They can seat Burris & give him no committee assignments

397 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:17:18am

re: #392 shanec99

Please tell me what would make the left happy.

Mysery! The only time they are happy is when they have something to bitch/ moan/ kvetch/ complain/ protest about. That allows them to make 'witty" signs, get on their best faux camo outfits (to show that they REALLY support the military) and avoid all responsibility by "protest marching" against some imagined slight that in reality allows them the freedom to protest.

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:17:39am

re: #395 Crux Australis

That makes sense. I have yet to meet the landlord who is interested in that kind of thing. Funny, I have an appointment with a landlord this morning about windows for a couple of her properties.

She ain't gonna want my stuff (high end)

399 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:17:45am

re: #392 shanec99

The left... I wonder if anything will ever make them happy?
Will prosperity make them happy?
Will an end to terrorism make them happy?
Will an America where the rule of law is adhered to and our law enforcement officials supported make them happy?

Does it appear that the left would rejoice in the triumph of Israel's enemies?
Does it appear that the left would throw a ticker tape parade if the American armed forces were to suffer a defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Please tell me what would make the left happy.

if there is it probably is in the realm of fantasy...or some impossibly unattainable life....I think unicorns put a smile on their face

400 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:18:08am

Coulter needs to eat a baked potato with lotsa' butter, sour cream and bacon-bits. And, a large, chocolate shake.

401 BaseballMom57  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:18:29am

re: #371 3 wood

They have plenty of lending capacity for good risks.

What is happening is the market has rediscovered the concept of "risk".

Exactly. I work for one of the big banks/mortgage companies and we never had any issues with capital - we have been originating and funding loans throughout this "crisis". Granted, the guidelines have stiffened up, but none of my customers had issues with providing documentation for their income and assets, even the self-employed ones. They realize this has made us all go back to the way loans were supposed to be given - based on your income/asset/credit profile.

402 BaseballMom57  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:19:55am

re: #400 MandyManners

Coulter needs to eat a baked potato with lotsa' butter, sour cream and bacon-bits. And, a large, chocolate shake.

I've been thinking the same things for a long time, Mandy - but I don't think I've ever seen her anything but thin, so I'm thinking she's just lucky that way.

403 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:20:37am

re: #400 MandyManners

Coulter needs to eat a baked potato with lotsa' butter, sour cream and bacon-bits. And, a large, chocolate shake.

not if it affects her writings and skewings of the left!

404 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:21:45am

re: #400 MandyManners

Coulter needs to eat a baked potato with lotsa' butter, sour cream and bacon-bits. And, a large, chocolate shake.


She does need to bulk up some.
On Hannity & Colmes last night, she turned the Colmes liberal smirk back on him & he couldn't stand it.
She treats him kind of like an insect. Those two seem to really dislike each other

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:22:53am

re: #400 MandyManners

Agreed. I can't see a picture of Ann Coulter without thinking of Alice.

406 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:22:57am

re: #385 sattv4u2

I agree,The Jihadidst haven't been able to pull off another attack on the US but on the other hand I think that is partially the reason that London (subway) and Spain (trains) were attacked.

Both those countries have a large ready to go gaggle of would be terrorists - Pakistanis in the UK, and North Africans in Spain - I think those places were always going to be targeted - too easy for them

Whereas the US after 9/11 has managed to stay free from this

407 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:23:38am

By the way, we have 1/4 inch of white slippery global warming on the streets here this morning. Very dangerous driving.

408 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:25:54am

re: #401 BaseballMom57

Granted, the guidelines have stiffened up, but none of my customers had issues with providing documentation for their income and assets, even the self-employed ones. They realize this has made us all go back to the way loans were supposed to be given - based on your income/asset/credit profile.

Which means that your Legal Dept. needs to staff up cause the "underprivileged" applicants will start suing under the Community Reinvestment Act once they start getting turned down a lot.

409 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:25:56am

re: #407 3 wood

By the way, we have 1/4 inch of white slippery global warming on the streets here this morning. Very dangerous driving.

Now now ,,,,,, you KNOW Global Warming has caused Climate Change which is the reason it snowed. The Science is indisputable. The debate is over

//channelling The Goracle

410 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:26:15am

sattv4u2...

speaking of skewing I'm ready to vote again when the blog polls open for me later... :)

411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:26:58am

re: #410 albusteve

Cheating is wrong. Period.

(how long do you have to wait?)

412 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:27:26am

*Comes in, opens refrigerator door *

Any fruitcup left?

Good morning, all!

413 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:27:49am

re: #411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cheating is wrong. Period.

(how long do you have to wait?)

late this afternoon

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:28:40am

re: #413 albusteve

late this afternoon

Not that I would cheat, how long is the interval from when a person could vote until they could vote again?

415 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:31:10am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not that I would cheat, how long is the interval from when a person could vote until they could vote again?

I assume 24hrs between votes...or it could go by the date...I dunno yet

416 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:34:41am

re: #415 albusteve

I assume 24hrs between votes...or it could go by the date...I dunno yet


In Cook County the dead must be deceased for 24 hours before they can vote.

417 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:36:01am

re: #416 opnion

In Cook County the dead must be deceased for 24 hours before they can vote.

But they can vote in any precinct, as long as they stay dead.......

418 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:36:11am

re: #416 opnion

In Cook County the dead must be deceased for 24 hours before they can vote.

same rule here I guess...they wont let me vote yet so I have to be dead for a bit longer...

419 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:37:11am

re: #417 Pietr

But they can vote in any precinct, as long as they stay dead.......

Hey, dey wuz good Democrats when dey wuz alive. Why stop now?

420 odhran  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:40:00am

Argghhh!

Waking up to yet another biased headline courtesy of my ISP, Comcast.

Today it's Isreal ignores call for cease fire.

Complete with a Palestinian face-palm picture.

Comcast has been relentless with the anti-Israel spin. Do they have a deal with al-Reuters?

421 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:41:01am

re: #420 odhran

Argghhh!

Waking up to yet another biased headline courtesy of my ISP, Comcast.

Today it's Isreal ignores call for cease fire.

Complete with a Palestinian face-palm picture.

Comcast has been relentless with the anti-Israel spin. Do they have a deal with al-Reuters?

Change your ISP. Will make your day better.

422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:41:43am

re: #421 Erik The Red

All you have to do is change your homepage. LGF makes a nice home page.

423 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:41:52am

re: #421 Erik The Red

Change your ISP. Will make your day better.

Or make your home page LGF

424 yochanan  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:42:24am

re: #400 MandyManners

Coulter needs to eat a baked potato with lotsa' butter, sour cream and bacon-bits. And, a large, chocolate shake.

YOU MEAN THE TRANNY IS TOO BONEY FOR YAH?

425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:42:25am

re: #423 Erik The Red

First!

426 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:42:26am

re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All you have to do is change your homepage. LGF makes a nice home page.

9 seconds FVB. Damn 2 finger typing.

427 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:43:24am

re: #421 Erik The Red


OT, Erik-have you drawn up a short timers' calendar yet?

428 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:45:06am

re: #427 Pietr

OT, Erik-have you drawn up a short timers' calendar yet?

Busy making lists last night with the family. Haven't started crossing of the calender yet. I may have to keep that one away from the family's eyes.

429 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:45:34am

re: #416 opnion

In Cook County the dead must be deceased for 24 hours before they can vote.

They say dead men walk the streets at night.....!

430 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:46:33am

re: #429 SteveC

They say dead men walk the streets at night.....!


They do for elections. No discrimination against the life challenged.

431 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:46:44am

re: #428 Erik The Red

Busy making lists last night with the family. Haven't started crossing of the calender yet. I may have to keep that one away from the family's eyes.

Yes, they do tend to be somewhat blatant-especially colored in properly....LOL.

432 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:48:01am

Look for the markets to open a little higher today.

You are going to hear a lot of bad economic news in the next few weeks, partially due to the MSM trying to give their savior and Messiah as much wiggle room and finger pointing material as possible.

Keep in mind that much of this bad news has already been priced into the market. I would expect unemployment to rise further to something under 10% at it's worst. But even at that, that means that 90% of the employable public is still working. There is not going to be a Great Depression #2. We came close to it in October when the whole financial system was on the verge of collapse. But now the various TARP steps are starting to have an effect, we have unemployment insurance now while we did not have it in the 30's, we have Social Security now when we did not until the later 30's.

The bottom line is that for a while, the market and investors forgot about the concept of risk and valued the cost of assuming risk at near zero. They have now found out that this is not true by a long shot. But now I think the market will overreact the other way and is now overvaluing risk. sort of due to shell shock. Remember, a whole lot of the investing public does not know what a recession really is like, all they have know is a general state of growth.

With the Democrats in control of everything, expect to see a big swing back to traditional Keynesian economic thought, which focuses on trying to increase income and government spending while minimizing saving. Keynesian theory also see's interest rates as being only of minor concern, which will be "interesting" (a little pun there) to see how they play that out. The danger is that their big spending programs, which take awhile to gear up, will take effect just about the time that the economy adjusts back to full employment anyway through Classical economic dynamics, and we will over-stimulate the economy into one heck of a hyper inflation cycle.

433 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:48:45am

re: #429 SteveC

They say dead men walk the streets at night.....!


... looking for someone to vote for!

The joke works better when you don't click "post" so fast!

Grrrrr!

Preview - not for the faint of heart!

434 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:49:49am

re: #416 opnion

In Cook County the dead must be deceased for 24 hours before they can vote.

I have personally seen ward heelers pulling wads of voter cards out of their pockets on election day and flip through them in selecting which one to hand to a prospective voter.

435 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:54:20am

re: #400 MandyManners

Coulter needs to eat a baked potato with lotsa' butter, sour cream and bacon-bits. And, a large, chocolate shake.

Throw in an order of BBQ ribs too. She is a little thin for my taste.

Speaking of which, I got a good look at the pictures of Steven Jobs.

I wish him good health and a long life, but I do not buy for a second his story about some hormone imbalance. And I would base any decisions on investing in Apple stock right now accordingly.

436 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:54:23am

Later all. Started my self imposed torture of not drinking for at least 31 days yesterday. I do this every year for some unknown reason. Stay scaly see you later.

437 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:55:45am

By the way, when does Colmes finally hit the bricks? I am so tired of seeing his lying face.

I figure he will hang around till the Messiah gets sworn in so he can gloat.

438 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:56:38am

re: #434 3 wood

I have personally seen ward heelers pulling wads of voter cards out of their pockets on election day and flip through them in selecting which one to hand to a prospective voter.

Guess he wanted to be sure he gave a card for the right age, race and sex, huh? I went on a trouble call 1 night in England, got handed "MY" badge, and was buzzed thru the gate. 1/2 hour later as I tried to leave, I found M16's ponting at me and was kneeling in the rain, hands behind my head! Seems the guard gave me a badge for a black female airman, whereas I was a white male NCO-and no one caught it until I was leaving-not even me....LOL.

439 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:56:51am

Good morning, Lizards. Seems the election of Obama has turned our election standards in a direction a third world country would admire. What is it gonna take to get
Republicians to get with the program here? I guess the only time you can speak out against anything is when you are running for office...after that, who cares! Read this

440 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:58:45am

Good Morning Lizards -

Can' t wait to see the drama unfold when Burris shows up to take his seat.

Is it too early for popcorn?

441 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:58:51am

re: #312 shanec99

Wouldn't do that to him... I prefer women. My taste, and I wont try to get the 72 virgins either.

you notice one thng about that? They never say which kind of virgins...is that donkeys or boys?

442 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 5:59:14am

re: #435 3 wood

And I would base any decisions on investing in Apple stock right now accordingly.

I can't figure why everyone is so hung up on the idea that Jobs is Apple. It's not a one man company, is it? Is he running around, designing everything by himself and building iPods and iPhones from scratch? You'd think that people would realize that a good leader (and Jobs certainly seems to be a good leader) hires competent people.

443 beblebrox  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:00:25am

re: #437 3 wood

By the way, when does Colmes finally hit the bricks? I am so tired of seeing his lying face.

I figure he will hang around till the Messiah gets sworn in so he can gloat.

All of this reminds me of some of the articles published about Kim Jong Il:

Just substitute the name Obama for Kim Jong Il:

North Korea’s official media has said flowers come into bloom when he appears and rainbows fill the sky on his birthday.

SINGING soldiers and flower shows marked the birthday of the man dubbed North Korea’s “invincible brilliant commander” by state-controlled media, as regional powers wondered whether he would abide by a nuclear deal.

444 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:00:27am

re: #440 summergurl

Good Morning Lizards -

Can' t wait to see the drama unfold when Burris shows up to take his seat.

Is it too early for popcorn?


I believe SATTV4U2 had some prepared-when is the expected showdown scheduled?

445 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:00:48am

re: #437 3 wood

By the way, when does Colmes finally hit the bricks? I am so tired of seeing his lying face.

I figure he will hang around till the Messiah gets sworn in so he can gloat.

You won't get rid of him that easily. After he's off of H & C, he'll be popping up on other shows on Fox News as well as doing his own specials now and then

446 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:00:58am

Good Morning y'all - from a moderate (60 degrees going up to -ta da!- 61 degrees) and VERY rainy Charlotte! Man, it is really pouring outside - the local weather heads say we've received an inch in the last two hours and are expecting 3-4 mor inches of rain today!
How is everyone doing?

447 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:01:11am

re: #440 summergurl

Good Morning Lizards -

Can' t wait to see the drama unfold when Burris shows up to take his seat.

Is it too early for popcorn?

It's never too early for popcorn, but use that flavored butter salt. Things won't happen for a while yet, and if you use real butter your popcorn will be soggy. :(

448 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:02:34am

re: #446 realwest

Good Morning y'all - from a moderate (60 degrees going up to -ta da!- 61 degrees) and VERY rainy Charlotte! Man, it is really pouring outside - the local weather heads say we've received an inch in the last two hours and are expecting 3-4 mor inches of rain today!
How is everyone doing?

morning, {real}! yea...pretty wet out there, but I love this global warming :-)

449 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:02:51am

re: #436 Erik The Red

Later all. Started my self imposed torture of not drinking for at least 31 days yesterday. I do this every year for some unknown reason. Stay scaly see you later.

We have the same thing in the Catholic Church- we call it "Lent" :-)

/Good Morning Everybody!

450 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:03:15am

re: #446 realwest

Still 43F and raining here in San Antone, RW. How are you today?

451 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:03:51am

re: #447 SteveC
I heard on Fox and Friends - ya know that bad comedy show that tries to imperonate a morning news show, that Burris isn't going to D.C. until Monday!
SO, don't go putting any butter on the popcorn yet - it'll just get soggy!

452 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:05:16am

Sports Note:

I predict the Chicago Cubs will have a season of discontent and trouble in the clubhouse. Here's why:

Sources: Cubs, Bradley agree to deal

The Chicago Cubs have agreed to a three-year, $30 million contract with free-agent outfielder Milton Bradley, sources told ESPN on Monday.

A switch-hitter, Bradley batted .321 with 22 homers for the Texas Rangers while leading the American League with a .436 on-base percentage. He made the All-Star team while serving primarily as the designated hitter.
Bradley

Playing with the Expos, Indians, Dodgers, Athletics, Padres and Rangers in a nine-year career, Bradley has batted .280 with 103 home runs and 399 RBIs. Injuries have allowed him to surpass 400 at-bats in a season only twice in his career.

If Bradley is so great, then how come this will be Bradly's 7th team in 9 years?

Here's why.

Bradley is a clubhouse cancer who can not stay healthy. If he gets a hangnail he goes on the DL for 2 weeks, sits around the clubhouse and causes trouble. Bradley is a first rate finger pointer, a me-first player who has no concept of how to play team ball, undermines his manager, and is a total jerk.

By June the Cubs clubhouse will be a soap opera due to this guy.

I pick the Cardinals now to win the division.

453 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:05:23am

re: #448 Beach Lover
Hey {Beach Lover} - soggy? I heard some dude ask another guy "hey man, what's a 'cubit'"! (h/t, Bill Cosby)!

454 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:05:35am

re: #451 realwest

Today is Tuesday, RW.......

455 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:06:34am

re: #221 littleoldlady

BTW, many thanks to those of you who served fruitcup (with such panache!) while I was away!

Panache - Is that like a crêpe?

456 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:06:55am

re: #450 Pietr
Hey Pietr - wow, you folks are colder than we are?!
And in South Texas, no less! I'm sorta doing ok, thanks, how's by you?

457 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:07:08am

re: #442 SteveC

I can't figure why everyone is so hung up on the idea that Jobs is Apple. It's not a one man company, is it? Is he running around, designing everything by himself and building iPods and iPhones from scratch? You'd think that people would realize that a good leader (and Jobs certainly seems to be a good leader) hires competent people.

He's the driving force behind their creative stuff.

He's also been giving himself back dated stock options while the SEC has been looking the other way.

458 razorbacker  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:07:23am

We've been hearing for years that America's strength in the world's economy is declining. But once again we see that when America catches a cold, the world develops pneumonia.

Toyota factories face days of closure

In a rare move which appears likely to be repeated in a similar form across much of the struggling Japanese automotive industry, the Nagoya-based giant said that all 12 of its Japanese manufacturing facilities would go dark for a total of 11 days between February and March.

By Toyota’s own admission, the move is designed to save permanent staff jobs amid fears that huge swathes of once booming industrial Japan are on the brink of turning very bleak indeed.

459 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:07:45am

re: #452 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood! How are ya doing today?
Didja check your e-mail yet?

460 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:08:33am

re: #455 gregg

BTW, many thanks to those of you who served fruitcup (with such panache!) while I was away!

Panache - Is that like a crêpe?

More like 'with eloquence/flair'......IIRC.

461 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:08:53am

re: #446 realwest

Good Morning y'all - from a moderate (60 degrees going up to -ta da!- 61 degrees) and VERY rainy Charlotte! Man, it is really pouring outside - the local weather heads say we've received an inch in the last two hours and are expecting 3-4 mor inches of rain today!
How is everyone doing?


Good Morning RW..We are in an ice storm right now..weeeee!
just staying warm

462 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:09:28am

re: #453 realwest

Hey {Beach Lover} - soggy? I heard some dude ask another guy "hey man, what's a 'cubit'"! (h/t, Bill Cosby)!

I miss Bill Cosby. Now there was humor! I think the video of his skit "Himself" one of the funniest I have ever seen. Course it helps if you have children.

463 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:09:42am

re: #454 Pietr
I know today is Tuesday, but thanks for he help! LOL!
No, the folks at Fox said next Monday is when Burris intends to try to get seated.
I hear Franken is already sitting outside the entrance to the Captitol building and is chaining himself to the door so they can't put off seating him!
:)

464 Dustoff-507  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:10:08am

Ok, I'm back.

How in the heck is everyone. (-:

465 jester6  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:10:22am

Does anyone know when Burris is going to show up at the Senate. I want to schedule some time to watch TV today?

466 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:10:51am

re: #451 realwest

I heard on Fox and Friends - ya know that bad comedy show that tries to imperonate a morning news show,

I had high hopes for Fox and Friends - anything to get away from the tripe on Network TV - but those guys are pretty much hopeless. Just fire everybody and start over.

467 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:11:29am

re: #456 realwest

Hey Pietr - wow, you folks are colder than we are?!
And in South Texas, no less! I'm sorta doing ok, thanks, how's by you?

I can complain about cold-but we needed rainy, even if I don't like it. Otherwise, doing fair-to-middling.....:>)

468 lurking faith  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:11:38am

Good morning, honcos!

I brought a fresh pot of coffee.

469 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:11:55am

re: #445 sattv4u2

You won't get rid of him that easily. After he's off of H & C, he'll be popping up on other shows on Fox News as well as doing his own specials now and then

Without someone to carry him, I think he will be gone very quickly. They can find a much better spoken moonbat, like maybe Kirsten Powers to do the obligatory left wing rave out routine.

470 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:12:13am

re: #463 realwest

I know today is Tuesday, but thanks for he help! LOL!
No, the folks at Fox said next Monday is when Burris intends to try to get seated.
I hear Franken is already sitting outside the entrance to the Captitol building and is chaining himself to the door so they can't put off seating him!
:)

check out the pic of Franken on [Link: www.Lucianne.com...]

and the caption is too funny

471 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:13:13am

re: #461 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops - geez, an ice storm? I sure hope y'all don't have to drive to work or anywhere else!

472 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:13:59am

re: #469 3 wood

Without someone to carry him, I think he will be gone very quickly. They can find a much better spoken moonbat, like maybe Kirsten Powers to do the obligatory left wing rave out routine.

he has nothing to say and worse (by far!) zero personality...he's weasely

473 jester6  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:14:33am

re: #470 Beach Lover

Thanks for the belly laugh.

474 lurking faith  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:14:44am

re: #463 realwest

I hear Franken is already sitting outside the entrance to the Captitol building and is chaining himself to the door so they can't put off seating him!
:)

I'm tempted to swing by and give him the welcome he so richly deserves.

475 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:15:16am

re: #464 Dustoff-507
Hey Dustoff! How are ya my friend?

476 Karridine  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:15:21am

re: #472 albusteve

Maybe Colmes could start dating Olbermann... there's a couple for you...

477 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:15:21am

re: #473 jester6

:-)

478 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:16:02am

re: #471 realwest

Hi ya Hoops - geez, an ice storm? I sure hope y'all don't have to drive to work or anywhere else!

RW, you learned how a Southerner drives in Snow/Ice yet? We usually drive at the speed limit or above, and if we hit a slick spot we follow 3 simple steps:

1) Curse - the louder, the better!

2) Hit the brakes

3) Turn the wheel (in both directions!)

479 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:16:56am

re: #476 Karridine

Maybe Colmes could start dating Olbermann... there's a couple for you...

ha!...that's it...Colmes makes the perfect sissy

480 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:17:18am

Good morning everyone.

I'm laughing at my vitamins

481 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:17:23am

re: #478 SteveC

RW, you learned how a Southerner drives in Snow/Ice yet? We usually drive at the speed limit or above, and if we hit a slick spot we follow 3 simple steps:

1) Curse - the louder, the better!

2) Hit the brakes

3) Turn the wheel (in both directions!)

well...we gotta get to the store for the bread and milk somehow, donchaknow!

482 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:17:37am

re: #476 Karridine

Maybe Colmes could start dating Olbermann... there's a couple for you...

Oh, hell no. They might decide to start recreating and procreatin' together!

483 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:17:47am

re: #459 realwest

Good morning 3 wood! How are ya doing today?
Didja check your e-mail yet?

Just did. Thanks.

And its 5 days a week for 9 weeks for the guy.

Ooof.

484 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:18:33am

re: #458 razorbacker

We've been hearing for years that America's strength in the world's economy is declining. But once again we see that when America catches a cold, the world develops pneumonia.

Toyota factories face days of closure

My wife works for Keihin IPT which is a honda supplier here in IN. they had to take a 5% pay cut and will be taking roatating days off to keep from having a layoff after honda dropped their output by 192,000
vehicles. I used to work for a former GM "spinoff" which was known as DRA (delco remy america) they filed bancrupcy due to poor management and a few other thing (including union coruption) back about 5 years ago, they are now Remy america, and most of their work is done out of country, or in non union low wage plants. Momma is still making near 14 dollars an hour...it is all in how a company deals with it's conditions.....

485 Karridine  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:18:57am

re: #479 albusteve

ha!...that's it...Colmes makes the perfect sissy

Bada-bing!

And with that, Albusteverino, I'm outta here what with it being 925PM here in suburban Bangkok...

/Go Israel, take it to them! Protect the Holy Land...

486 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:19:48am

re: #469 3 wood

Without someone to carry him, I think he will be gone very quickly. They can find a much better spoken moonbat, like maybe Kirsten Powers to do the obligatory left wing rave out routine.

She is actually tolerable to watch and on occassion makes a good point.

487 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:20:03am

re: #446 realwest

Good Morning y'all - from a moderate (60 degrees going up to -ta da!- 61 degrees) and VERY rainy Charlotte! Man, it is really pouring outside - the local weather heads say we've received an inch in the last two hours and are expecting 3-4 mor inches of rain today!
How is everyone doing?

*Smooch* and how was the visit to the doctor?

Hot night here darls, even my glass of chardy is getting warm :-)

488 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:20:04am

re: #466 SteveC Well the blonde woman (who used to be a Miss America, iirc) actually does the news quite well; the two guys are just.....just........hopeless. I mean really, really hopeless and they have no sense of proportion; they'll speak for 1 or 2 minutes about ANY story equally - Israel in Gaza, 1 or 2 minutes - and they're bored with it; Richard Simmons is a guest this morning - 1 or 2 minutes and they're bored with tha story.
Just effin pitiful, both of 'em.

489 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:20:09am

re: #485 Karridine

Bada-bing!

And with that, Albusteverino, I'm outta here what with it being 925PM here in suburban Bangkok...

/Go Israel, take it to them! Protect the Holy Land...

tek care mon

490 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:20:19am

re: #472 albusteve

he has nothing to say and worse (by far!) zero personality...he's weasely

Agree, I find him creepy. All he does is alibi for the left wing, then try to talk over the conservative guests and make all kinds of accusations that they will never have time to address. Then later he quotes his own accusation and claims they did not refute it.

491 Karridine  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:21:49am

RealWest, Albus, see ya later...

492 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:22:00am

re: #470 Beach Lover
ROTFLMAO! Yeah out of ten jokes, Franken will get maybe 5 right; but I HATE the thought that American policy could Depend on that idiot.
;')

493 Dustoff-507  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:22:23am

re: #478 SteveC


Soooooo Steve, your from WA state. (-:

They drive that way here... scary!

494 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:22:27am

re: #486 summergurl

She is actually tolerable to watch and on occassion makes a good point.

Yes, I find her much for intelligent than Colmes. I think Colmes will be a trivia question shortly, as in "what ever became of......?"

495 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:22:50am

re: #470 Beach Lover

check out the pic of Franken on [Link:

496 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:23:43am

re: #493 Dustoff-507

Soooooo Steve, your from WA state. (-:

They drive that way here... scary!

You're holding your map upside down, I'm a South Carolinian!

497 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:24:06am

re: #490 3 wood

Agree, I find him creepy. All he does is alibi for the left wing, then try to talk over the conservative guests and make all kinds of accusations that they will never have time to address. Then later he quotes his own accusation and claims they did not refute it.

Mr.Beach refuses to watch him. Says..."No, I can't take it"! If it's important I have to go to another room.

498 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:24:29am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

We've a bright and shiny winter morning, it's a few degrees below zero and a snowstorm is on its way tonight. Oh joy!

{real} Morning, luv! How was your appointment yesterday? Doing alright?

499 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:24:54am

re: #478 SteveC
Huh. I always thought it was
1) Curse - the louder, the better!

2) put open beer can between legs

3) Hit the brakes

4) Turn the wheel (in both directions!)?!
?

500 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:24:54am

re: #476 Karridine

Maybe Colmes could start dating Olbermann... there's a couple for you...

Colmes would be the catcher and not the pitcher.

501 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:25:07am

BBIAM!

502 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:25:12am

re: #497 Beach Lover

Mr.Beach refuses to watch him. Says..."No, I can't take it"! If it's important I have to go to another room.

I just say "HULK SMASH!" and don't remember anything after that. Usually have to buy a new TV, though.

503 Dustoff-507  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:25:15am

re: #496 SteveC

Ahhh. Damn. I knew something was wrong

504 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:25:28am

re: #492 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Yeah out of ten jokes, Franken will get maybe 5 right; but I HATE the thought that American policy could Depend on that idiot.
;')

Depend....good one, Real!

505 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:25:48am

re: #500 3 wood

Colmes would be the catcher and not the pitcher.

ya think?

506 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:26:00am

Morning all!

I see Yellowstone is adding to the fears of a supervolcano eruption.

/when it rains it pours.

507 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:26:20am

re: #480 FrogMarch

Good morning everyone.

I'm laughing at my vitamins

You're sure those are vitamins?

508 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:26:38am

re: #500 3 wood

Colmes would be the catcher and not the pitcher.

What would the safe word be? "Obama!"

509 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:26:39am

Well, today is the start of the 111th Congress, also known as the start of the final march to European government. I guess we have a lot to look forward to what with all the open, Godless society on the way...

Panetta seems like a great choice for Administrative Asssitant, not CIA Director.

Al Franken? Give me a break... Wake me up when Stewart Smalley gives a coherent speech on the floor of the Senate.

Burris? Well, Blago is still the governor. He had a lot of balls to make the pick. I don't really think he can't not be seated... That said, they are both freaking idiots... Blago for his existence, Burris for accepting...

510 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:28:03am

re: #492 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Yeah out of ten jokes, Franken will get maybe 5 right; but I HATE the thought that American policy could Depend on that idiot.
;')

*snicker*

It's time for a change ...

511 Bloodnok  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:28:42am

re: #509 tfc3rid

Well, today is the start of the 111th Congress, also known as the start of the final march to European government. I guess we have a lot to look forward to what with all the open, Godless society on the way...

Panetta seems like a great choice for Administrative Asssitant, not CIA Director.

Al Franken? Give me a break... Wake me up when Stewart Smalley gives a coherent speech on the floor of the Senate.

Burris? Well, Blago is still the governor. He had a lot of balls to make the pick. I don't really think he can't not be seated... That said, they are both freaking idiots... Blago for his existence, Burris for accepting...


(sound of popcorn popping)

512 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:29:06am

re: #506 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

something new today or rehash of the stuff from a few days ago?

513 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:29:21am

re: #510 Miss Trixie

*snicker*

It's time for a change ...

Just think of the great, and crazy, laws and bills he'll help introduce.

"It's a circus, colonel... a flying circus!"
--Richtofen vs Brown

514 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:29:25am

re: #506 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

I see Yellowstone is adding to the fears of a supervolcano eruption.

/when it rains it pours.


Well on the bright side, there goes global warming?

515 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:29:39am

re: #488 realwest

Well the blonde woman (who used to be a Miss America, iirc) actually does the news quite well; the two guys are just.....just........hopeless. I mean really, really hopeless and they have no sense of proportion; they'll speak for 1 or 2 minutes about ANY story equally - Israel in Gaza, 1 or 2 minutes - and they're bored with it; Richard Simmons is a guest this morning - 1 or 2 minutes and they're bored with tha story.
Just effin pitiful, both of 'em.


That would be Gretchen Wilson, I think she graduated Stanford

516 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:30:44am

re: #509 tfc3rid

Well, today is the start of the 111th Congress, also known as the start of the final march to European government. I guess we have a lot to look forward to what with all the open, Godless society on the way...

Panetta seems like a great choice for Administrative Asssitant, not CIA Director.

Al Franken? Give me a break... Wake me up when Stewart Smalley gives a coherent speech on the floor of the Senate.

Burris? Well, Blago is still the governor. He had a lot of balls to make the pick. I don't really think he can't not be seated... That said, they are both freaking idiots... Blago for his existence, Burris for accepting...

this particularly burns my butt...very unpatriotic to put themselves before their country...I am mystified that more people dont see this in BO....these enormous egos do not bode well if you follow the rationale....wtf?

517 3 wood  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:30:55am

By the way, if you watched Skeletor last night interviewing Coulter, you saw another prime example of the double standard of the left. At one point Skeletor asked Coulter that if she likes the institution of marriage so much (she was talking about willfully single mothers) then how come she is not married? She just ignored him.

Try asking that of a single moonbat guest and see what the MSM does with it after wards.

518 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:31:34am

re: #512 Marvo76

something new today or rehash of the stuff from a few days ago?

FNC report of "scientists swarming" on Yellowstone and a cute graphic showing the "disaster area" covering the enter western part of the country (but carefully omitting the fact that the east coast is toast, too.

Swarming being their word choice, not mine.

Lots of tremors and build up. We're due for the thing to blow, but I kinda wish it could wait a couple of hundred more years.

519 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:31:44am

re: #515 summergurl

That would be Gretchen Wilson, I think she graduated Stanford

And her husband played quarterback there, and he is now a sports agent. His biggest client is Derek Jeter.

520 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:32:13am

re: #514 Nevergiveup

Well on the bright side, there goes global warming?

It's climate change now... and yes, it will...

521 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:32:25am

And they thought Sarah Palin was a joke!
just unbelievable

522 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:32:58am

re: #517 3 wood

By the way, if you watched Skeletor last night interviewing Coulter, you saw another prime example of the double standard of the left. At one point Skeletor asked Coulter that if she likes the institution of marriage so much (she was talking about willfully single mothers) then how come she is not married? She just ignored him.

Try asking that of a single moonbat guest and see what the MSM does with it after wards.

it's the 2+2=5 Syndrome...there is little to be said except to ignore it

523 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:33:01am

re: #518 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

FNC report of "scientists swarming" on Yellowstone and a cute graphic showing the "disaster area" covering the enter western part of the country (but carefully omitting the fact that the east coast is toast, too.

Swarming being their word choice, not mine.

Lots of tremors and build up. We're due for the thing to blow, but I kinda wish it could wait a couple of hundred more years.

Just give me a 3 day head start. I got a few people I want settle some scores with.

524 Dustoff-507  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:33:02am

My Gov of WA is missing? The talk is that she may replace Bill Richardson?

525 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:33:43am
526 nanook  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:34:14am

re: #519 Nevergiveup

And her husband played quarterback there, and he is now a sports agent. His biggest client is Derek Jeter.

That would actually be Gretchen CARLSON. But otherwise, you've got it right.

527 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:34:37am
528 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:34:48am

Isranet e-mail update/article.

LORNE GUNTER: GAZA DEALS BLOW TO PALESTINIAN MYTHS
Lorne Gunter
National Post, January 5, 2009

If Israel is the occupier of Gaza (as so many angry readers have told me following my recent columns in support of Israel’s attacks), how come it has no troops or military posts in Gaza and has not had since 2005? How come Israel spent the summer and early fall of 2005 forcibly evicting 7,000 Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip if it is an occupier? Israeli society—including the army—was deeply divided over the removal of the settlers.

Many soldiers refused to take part in the uprooting of families, some of whom had lived in Gaza for three generations. Most settlers under 40 knew no other home and almost all resisted the expulsion with civil disobedience.

But still Israel carried it out because the Palestinians insisted the presence of the settlers was their prime irritant and obstacle to peace. It cost Israel more than half a billion dollars to relocate the settlers. More than 1,000 acres (3.5 million square metres) of greenhouses were abandoned and 15% of Israel’s agricultural exports were lost due to the evacuation. Approximately 5,000 Palestinians lost their jobs processing the crops Israelis grew on the Strip.

Palestinians and their supporters often complain that Israeli settlers take the best land. If only they would give it back, the Palestinians themselves would work that land and become self-sufficient.

But in Gaza, all the occupied land has been given back, along with extensive cultivation and irrigation infrastructure and now—just three years later—the land is largely barren, the greenhouses and irrigation works are largely in ruins and there are almost no exports, meaning there are no export-based jobs for Palestinians and no foreign-currency income for Gazans from international produce buyers.

Also in 2005, Israel removed all its soldiers from Gaza, as the Palestinians had demanded. Now it has only border patrols and checkpoints along its boundary with the Palestinian enclave.…

I have been told time and again by Palestinian-friendly readers that because of Israel’s “occupation,” Gazans have been forced to dig tunnels between the Strip and Egypt just to get food and water. But Egypt, not Israel, controls its frontiers with Gaza. So how do Israel’s restrictions make Gaza-Egypt tunnels necessary? If Egypt were not just as determined to keep Gaza sealed off, the tunnels would be unnecessary no matter what Israel was doing.…

And why, when Egypt controlled Gaza from 1948 to 1967, did it not allow the Palestinians to relocate freely? Why did it keep in them in their refugee camps? Doesn’t all of this make Egypt a co-occupier?

Over and over, too, I have been told the existing troubles stem from the way Israel forced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians out of their homes between 1947 and 1949 to make way for a Jewish state. But while it is true 650,000 Arabs and Palestinians were displaced by the founding of Israel, often overlooked are more than 800,000 Jews who were expelled from Arab states at the same time and told to go to Israel.… The displacement of people was hardly one-way.

Israel is Gaza’s largest supplier of humanitarian aid. Since Operation Cast Lead began on Dec. 27, nearly 200 trucks have crossed into the Strip from Israel carrying 6,000 tonnes of “basic food commodities, medication, medical supplies and blood units.” The most badly wounded Palestinians are taken to Israeli hospitals for treatment, too.

Iran eagerly supplies Hamas, Gaza’s rulers, with plenty of weapons to fire on Israel, but it provides precious little food or medical aid for ordinary Palestinians. Nor do Saudi Arabia or any of the oil-rich Gulf states come close to Israel’s aid levels.

Israel may not be blameless in Gaza, but neither is it a cruel, unprovoked aggressor.

529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:35:03am

re: #523 Nevergiveup

Just give me a 3 day head start. I got a few people I want settle some scores with.

I'd haul ass north, with a general easterly and south-easterly flow, I figure my best chance is in Canada. They might still have sunlight in the coming decades.

530 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:35:10am

re: #463 realwest

I know today is Tuesday, but thanks for he help! LOL!
No, the folks at Fox said next Monday is when Burris intends to try to get seated.
I hear Franken is already sitting outside the entrance to the Captitol building and is chaining himself to the door so they can't put off seating him!
:)

Colemans Senate office was closed Saturday-his term is over! Neither Franken, nor Burris, can be seated since they aren't LEGALLY certified yet-but this is the Tuesday they were talking about on Fox, RW.

531 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:35:14am

Ok, that's officially weird.....

Back in 1993 I wrote a 30 page booklet about the history of my church. It's got a paper cover and is held together by one of those plastic loop thingies - I think they call it a "comb" - and we had 100 copies printed and gave them away one Sunday.

My cousin just sent me a link. It's listed on Amazon.co.uk. It's listed as unavailable, but still... I mean, we never even did the paperwork to get an ISBN number!

532 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:35:19am

re: #487 aussiemagpie
Hi Ya {aussie} Visit to doc went fine, it's today when he calls with the test results that I'm a little nerous about.
Ya know, the way Custer was a "little nervous" when he and his 211 troopers saw those 4,000 Sioux and Cheyenne Indian warriors coming at 'em! LOL!
*Smooch* back to you and y'all ought to drink that Chardy quickly, cause Chardy which isn't cold is, well, not so good. Course I never liked white wines back in my drinking days anyway, but I believe that cold Chardy is better than warmish Chardy! LOL!

533 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:36:15am

Will the Republicans listen to reason?

[Link: thenextright.com...]

534 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:36:22am

re: #526 nanook

That would actually be Gretchen CARLSON. But otherwise, you've got it right.

I thought that is who you were talking about. See how work gets in the way of blogging?

535 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:36:23am

re: #480 FrogMarch
Good morning FrogMarch - ok, I'll ask, WHY are you laughing at your vitamens?!

536 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:36:53am

re: #515 summergurl

That would be Gretchen Wilson, I think she graduated Stanford

I like her song "Redneck Woman". ;-)

537 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:37:07am

re: #532 realwest

What time to you expect to hear from him? Maybe the village is small after all.

538 Crux Australis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:37:15am

re: #506 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

I see Yellowstone is adding to the fears of a supervolcano eruption.

/when it rains it pours.

If Yellowstone goes so does Australia as well. Despite being 9,000 miles away Australia will still get the ash cloud and the "nuclear winter" effects afterwards.

539 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:38:04am

re: #483 3 woodThat could turn out to be a case of the cure being worse than the illness.
Geez, I sure hope his Radiation doctor specializes in what he has!

540 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:38:40am

re: #538 Crux Australis

If Yellowstone goes so does Australia as well. Despite being 9,000 miles away Australia will still get the ash cloud and the "nuclear winter" effects afterwards.

yeah, but according that movie "On the Beach" ( I think that was the movie ) you all will be the last ones to die. So got any room in your house?

541 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:38:55am

re: #10 alteredbeat

Hi,

I don't necessarily enjoy the evolution/ID debate threads. Am I a troll?

Just wondering what stage of groupthink you people are in...

I know I'm late to this roast, but...

The misuse of the term "Groupthink" annoys me to a great extent. It's perjorative use can be considered a corollary of Godwin's Law (the longer a discussion the likelyhood of a comparison to Nazi or Hitler becomes closer to one).

Groupthink was discussed in a 1972 article "Victims of Groupthink" by the social scientist Irving Janis. It is a group dynamic characterized by the desire to "get along" overriding individuals willingness to give critical feedback often resulting in failure to consider all possible alternatives.

Making any comment in a forum that allows that comment to stand (as does LGF) and then decrying lack of dissent because others criticize your opinions is in and of itself a risk factor of Groupthink.

If you meant to observe that this blog can sometimes be an "echo chamber" or lack dissent then you can make that point. Remember LGF is a topical Blog - criticizing it for uniformity of opinions would be like going to a Burger King to complain that it doesn't serve egg rolls.

This leaves two distinct possibilities:
- You are unwittingly illustrating a corollary of Benford's Law of Controversy (Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available)
- or you are indeed a Troll (a person who seeds conversations with controversial statements in order to get a reaction aka angling)

The layers upon layers of irony revealed in your short opening statement to this thread are stunningly complex. It makes one wonder if they were intentionally designed or could have just evolved as a natural part of your thought process.

542 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:38:58am

re: #538 Crux Australis

If Yellowstone goes so does Australia as well. Despite being 9,000 miles away Australia will still get the ash cloud and the "nuclear winter" effects afterwards.

Kind of like "On the Beach, The Sequel"?

543 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:39:15am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. NYC is going to be a moronic convergence as the UN meets and the useful idiots will be gathering to denounce Israel's right to exist while exposing their anti-Semitic inner hate for the world to see by supporting Hamas and their genocidal intent.

There is good and evil in the world. It's on full display all the time, but right now the battle is in Gaza.

Hamas makes no bones about its goals and mission. It seeks nothing less than the destruction of Israel and the genocide of Jews.

Israel wants to be left alone, but has all too reluctantly taken action by finally sending in troops months after Hamas had been raining down rockets on Israel during a so-called ceasefire. Israel does everything imaginable to minimize civilian casualties, up to and including calling homes in the vicinity of where Israel expects to attack. Hamas purposefully uses human shields.

Hamas purposefully fires kassams with the intent to murder Israelis - hitting kindergardens is typical of their mindset. Hamas is nihilistic and full of rage, and they are incapable of choosing between that hate and peace with Israel.

Israel builds bomb shelters and has to reinforce schools and hospitals to prevent casualties from rocket attacks. Hamas purposefully surrounds itself with kids so that if Israel does attack, the imagery and story focuses not on Hamas barabarism, but on the death of kids.

The media laps the agitprop up. MSNBC is among the worst at this in the US; foreign press is even worse.

My updates on the situation are here.

544 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:39:41am

re: #538 Crux Australis

If Yellowstone goes so does Australia as well. Despite being 9,000 miles away Australia will still get the ash cloud and the "nuclear winter" effects afterwards.

That puts a big hole in my Canada plan... I can't hear you LaLaLaLaLaLa...

/Seriously, are you sure? I think the global circulation patterns will keep most of it in the Northern Hemisphere.

545 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:40:09am

Islamic terrorists ridicule death of Bush cat

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

OK NOW I am mad! And my 3 cats are thinking of enlisting.

546 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:40:20am

re: #509 tfc3rid

Well, today is the start of the 111th Congress, also known as the start of the final march to European government. I guess we have a lot to look forward to what with all the open, Godless society on the way...

Panetta seems like a great choice for Administrative Asssitant, not CIA Director.

Al Franken? Give me a break... Wake me up when Stewart Smalley gives a coherent speech on the floor of the Senate.

Burris? Well, Blago is still the governor. He had a lot of balls to make the pick. I don't really think he can't not be seated... That said, they are both freaking idiots... Blago for his existence, Burris for accepting...

franken and burris are so disgusting. it is so vulgar the way they are fighting
claw tooth and nail for these positions and oblivious to how they look to the rest of us.
and the self righteous indignation they exhibit as they lay claim to these senate seats, is amazing.
burris is going to show up and make an ass of himself, like a democrat.
franken is so desperate to park his fat ass in the senate he might show up like
gorilla w/ an ice pick.

547 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:41:02am

re: #544 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That puts a big hole in my Canada plan... I can't hear you LaLaLaLaLaLa...

/Seriously, are you sure? I think the global circulation patterns will keep most of it in the Northern Hemisphere.

Didn't you see the movie? It drifts down there slowly.

548 Sizzlack  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:41:23am

Anyone else check out DKos for their views on the Panetta selection? They are foaming at the mouth over Feinstein's disagreement with the pick. It is truly amazing how quickly they throw their own politicians under the bus for not towing their insane left wing agenda. It's almost like they enjoy it.

549 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:41:24am

Ok, can't make this up. Most mornings when I take the train downtown I am on with an unreconstucted hippie woman. She gets most of her news through, 'High Times", "Mother Jones" & "The daily Show"
She is good people but way out there. Today she said that she does not wish to live past the year 2016 beacuse Obama will be out of office then.
She went on to amuse all in ear shot when she said, 'This just figures, a Black man has to come in & clean up the Whire Man's mess."
Nobody even disagrees anymore . it's useless.

550 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:41:51am

re: #533 FrogMarch

Will the Republicans listen to reason?

[Link: thenextright.com...]

pretty good summation...I'm worried

551 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:42:01am

re: #525 ploome hineni

Kristen is also a bot

lately, they have stopped pasting all that makeup on her

and she may be mellowing, but she also mindlessly tows the party line

it has become numbing to hear the same crap from both parties every day


I don't think they stopped putting alot of makeup - it looks like she a wee bit oif "work"

552 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:42:11am

Goodie... they are teasing a bigger scare piece on Yellowstone.

/Time to go hide in the closet. I hate the MSM.

553 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:42:41am

re: #498 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous and *smoochies* back to you!
Yeah well yesterday they took blood, sometime today (hopefully within an hour or so) I'll get the results.
Thanks for asking - how are you doing - all stocked up on wine firedwood for the coming snowstorm?!

554 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:43:15am

Spain's king calls for Gaza cease-fire

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I guess the "King" lost his balls?

555 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:43:22am

re: #547 Nevergiveup

Read On the Beach... but that was radiation, you'll get some dust. Not Nuclear Winter levels of dust, I suspect.

556 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:44:02am

If Yellowstone Blows is that Bush's fault?

557 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:44:52am

re: #509 tfc3rid

Well, today is the start of the 111th Congress, also known as the start of the final march to European government. I guess we have a lot to look forward to what with all the open, Godless society on the way

If you like European Government you'll love this: Britain's National Health Service is auctioning off transplant organs to rich foreigners

And for the final kick in the gut, make sure you read the last paragraph!

558 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:45:05am

re: #555 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Read On the Beach... but that was radiation, you'll get some dust. Not Nuclear Winter levels of dust, I suspect.

I'm just joking. Still maybe i should ask for sea duty so I can sail down under when the time comes?

559 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:45:35am

re: #504 Beach Lover Thank you, thank you - I'll be here all week, don't forget to tip your waitperson...............!
Actually I thought #499 was funnier, but what the hey, an upding here, an upding there and pretty soon my Karma will get respectable! LOL!

560 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:45:42am

FOX is saying that Burris is on his way now to claim his seat--

561 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:45:50am

re: #556 Nevergiveup

If Yellowstone Blows is that Bush's fault?

It's his fault for not...like... reducing the pressure or something. Dude, you know Cheney is from Wyoming, right? *drugger-snort-laugh*

562 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:46:09am

Iceland condemns IDF's operation in Gaza

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Who?

563 Sizzlack  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:47:07am

re: #562 Nevergiveup

Iceland condemns IDF's operation in Gaza

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Who?

LOL. Does Iceland even have a military? Or do they just throw snowballs and icicles at invaders?

564 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:47:07am

re: #532 realwest

Hi Ya {aussie} Visit to doc went fine, it's today when he calls with the test results that I'm a little nerous about.
Ya know, the way Custer was a "little nervous" when he and his 211 troopers saw those 4,000 Sioux and Cheyenne Indian warriors coming at 'em! LOL!
*Smooch* back to you and y'all ought to drink that Chardy quickly, cause Chardy which isn't cold is, well, not so good. Course I never liked white wines back in my drinking days anyway, but I believe that cold Chardy is better than warmish Chardy! LOL!

Good luck darls and I hope the results are good for you! Fingers crossed....

It's coffee time for me - one last cuppa before bed :-) The chardy is back in the fridge...ready for me when I stagger home from work

565 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:47:39am

re: #563 Sizzlack

LOL. Does Iceland even have a military? Or do they just throw snowballs and icicles at invaders?

Do we have a base on Iceland?

566 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:47:57am

re: #558 Nevergiveup

Naw... this happens once every 300,000 years. To even begin to think we are unlucky enough to live within 200 years of if is a waste of time.

/crosses fingers he's right.

567 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:48:14am

re: #549 opnion

Ok, can't make this up. Most mornings when I take the train downtown I am on with an unreconstucted hippie woman. She gets most of her news through, 'High Times", "Mother Jones" & "The daily Show"
She is good people but way out there. Today she said that she does not wish to live past the year 2016 beacuse Obama will be out of office then.
She went on to amuse all in ear shot when she said, 'This just figures, a Black man has to come in & clean up the Whire Man's mess."
Nobody even disagrees anymore . it's useless.

you could suggest to her that goes to live in an african country that has abandoned the "white man's mess" and elected a commie thug to clean it up.
and now they is 26,000 % inflation. maybe she would like that kind of mess.

568 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:48:33am

re: #562 Nevergiveup

Iceland condemns IDF's operation in Gaza

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Who?

could one expect otherwise?...nice folks too I imagine..contaminated now...
the MSM is my dire enemy

569 Crux Australis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #544 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That puts a big hole in my Canada plan... I can't hear you LaLaLaLaLaLa...

/Seriously, are you sure? I think the global circulation patterns will keep most of it in the Northern Hemisphere.

Eventually. It may take a while to cross the tropics on the way though.

570 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:49:14am

re: #515 summergurl
Ah, well Stanford is a fine school and she does seem bright and FOCUSED - course that's in comparision to the two maroons she sits between, but still she does seem to be well informed and gets to the heart of whatever issue she's discussing pretty quickly.

571 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:49:35am

re: #553 realwest

Pullin for ya , Real.

572 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:51:15am

re: #517 3 wood She shoulda smacked him out of his chair. One punch is all it would have taken, too. Ya just look at him and you KNOW he's the kid everyone picked on in school, grades k-16!

573 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:51:17am

240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

574 Pietr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:51:29am

re: #556 Nevergiveup

If Yellowstone Blows is that Bush's fault?

If it sucks, Is it Bubbas' ?

575 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:51:37am

re: #567 nyc redneck

you could suggest to her that goes to live in an african country that has abandoned the "white man's mess" and elected a commie thug to clean it up.
and now they is 26,000 % inflation. maybe she would like that kind of mess.

I swear to you, she would just say, "You made that up"
I think that she had too much of a chemical romance in the 60's.

576 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:52:52am

re: #519 Nevergiveup
No shit? Her hubby reps Jeter? Wonder if he got Jeter that 10 year $180 million contract a few years ago? If so, that's one RICH agent!

577 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:53:09am
578 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:53:10am

re: #517 3 wood

By the way, if you watched Skeletor last night interviewing Coulter, you saw another prime example of the double standard of the left. At one point Skeletor asked Coulter that if she likes the institution of marriage so much (she was talking about willfully single mothers) then how come she is not married? She just ignored him.

Try asking that of a single moonbat guest and see what the MSM does with it after wards.


I saw that. Coulter treats Colmes with the mocking disdain that he deserves.

579 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:53:16am

re: #576 realwest

No shit? Her hubby reps Jeter? Wonder if he got Jeter that 10 year $180 million contract a few years ago? If so, that's one RICH agent!

Yes he did.

580 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:53:46am

re: #562 Nevergiveup

Iceland condemns IDF's operation in Gaza

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Who?


A bankrupt nation, apparently in more ways than one.

581 bosforus  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:54:27am

re: #549 opnion

Ok, can't make this up. Most mornings when I take the train downtown I am on with an unreconstucted hippie woman. She gets most of her news through, 'High Times", "Mother Jones" & "The daily Show"
She is good people but way out there. Today she said that she does not wish to live past the year 2016 beacuse Obama will be out of office then.
She went on to amuse all in ear shot when she said, 'This just figures, a Black man has to come in & clean up the Whire Man's mess."
Nobody even disagrees anymore . it's useless.

Ugh. It's like a mental illness. Best case scenario - no one disagreed with her because they didn't want to engage her in conversation. I mean, did you spark up a conversation with her about it? Exactly. No one else did either. When she told you she didn't want to live past 2016 you should have said, do you promise?

582 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:54:40am
583 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:54:43am

re: #573 Dustyvet

240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I agree with the judgement but the payoff is ridiculous...more unjust than the original bruhaha...what a world

584 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:55:51am

re: #580 lawhawk

A bankrupt nation, apparently in more ways than one.

More Euro-wimps. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

585 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:55:55am

re: #556 Nevergiveup

If Yellowstone Blows is that Bush's fault?

Damnit... and I haven't even had a chance to visit it and see it before it decides to blow the roof off the world.

586 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:56:33am

and this article warms my heart as well:

From the same source, an isranet daily briefing e-mail:

ON THE PILOT’S MIND
Giora Rom
Ha’aretz, January 4, 2009


Pilots drop bombs. Pilots kill people. Pilots destroy things that took great effort to build. Pilots do all of this without seeing the results of their actions up close.

Pilots also carry out strategic goals. With their unique expertise, they serve as intermediaries between the policy determined by leaders and those targeted by that policy.

Pilots would be happy to fly missions in the Sahara Desert, or in the ice tracts of Antarctica. But not Gideon Levy’s pilots, citizens of his imagined country, operating in an area where more than 10 million people are cramped between the sea and the Jordan River—conflicted, angry, worried for their children’s future, each with his hands firmly around his neighbor’s throat.

In his December 31 article “Our pilots did not return safely,” Levy sounds like someone zooming in on a snippet of a large, complex painting that needs to be viewed from afar to get the full picture. “In four days they killed 375 people,” he writes. “They did not, and could not, distinguish between a Hamas official and his children, between a traffic cop and a Qassam launching squad, between a weapons cache and a health clinic.

“Our excellent pilots are effectively bullies now,” he concludes.

The truth is that pilots are no more heroes than the tens of thousands of citizens far below them on the ground, nor do they see themselves any differently. If Levy finds it hard to figure out “what goes through their mind,” as he says, I can give him a hand: “I don’t want to miss. In this sweaty crowded mess, I want to hit only the ones I need to hit, and if at all possible, no one else. I don’t want to miss.”

Levy’s narrative (“They set out to bomb young police officers’ graduation ceremony”) misses the big picture—that this is an existential war. According to this narrative, the Israeli pilot must be forced to face the results of his actions.

On the afternoon of October 20, 1975, the army received intelligence about a graduation ceremony being held by the Popular Resistance Committees in a godforsaken village in northern Lebanon, on the Syrian border. At exactly 5 P.M., the exact hour of the ceremony, I found myself 15,000 feet above it, leading three other pilots, each carrying eight quarter-ton bombs. I could see the village, its soccer field and the dark rectangle of the graduates of the explosives course run by Ahmed Jibril.

As my plane dove, in the second before I pushed the button to release the bombs, I saw the edges of that rectangle beginning to peel off and seek shelter from our aircraft.

I thought about my mission during the long flight from Tel Nof Air Force Base to that distant village. I knew for certain that those proud graduates of a terror training course would be surrounded by family members and others. But I did not hesitate for a second in my responsibility to make sure the course’s graduates did not apply their knowledge in Admit, Zarit, Misgav Am or any other northern border community.

I don’t want to miss, I told myself, I want my bombs to strike only the dark rectangle at the center of the field. When number 4 said “Go,” I saw black smoke rise from the village and I knew people had been killed, much like the ones Levy describes. Since then, I have not been to the village to check whether indeed people I did not intend to kill were killed. On the way back, over Kiryat Shmona, I rolled over and had a look at headquarters. The people looked small, like tiny dots.

I didn’t go to Kiryat Shmona that night either. I will never know how many lives in that city were saved, simply because 15 minutes earlier my friends and I had been in northern Lebanon.

(Maj. Gen. [res.] Giora Rom was a fighter pilot and deputy Air Force commander.)

(emphasis mine)

587 bosforus  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:56:38am

re: #573 Dustyvet

240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

When will Arabs learn: you can't wear shirts with your language printed on it and you can't be surprised that an engine is so close to your window!
/

588 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:56:47am

Accused jihadist claims government using mind control tactics on him, asks for exorcist


Not until his frigging head spins...:)

589 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:57:40am

re: #537 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT, I actually expected to hear from him by now.
Rain probably held him up or something like that.
How ya doing today my friend?

590 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:57:41am

re: #585 lawhawk

Damnit... and I haven't even had a chance to visit it and see it before it decides to blow the roof off the world.

It will be bigger after this.

Go then.

591 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:57:50am

re: #555 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Read On the Beach... but that was radiation, you'll get some dust. Not Nuclear Winter levels of dust, I suspect.

Oh no! All that dust on the furniture!

On a serious note, is Yellowstone due for an eruption? I did read something a while ago about this

Or has Goreball Warming/ Climate Change hysteria jumped the shark?

592 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:58:36am

re: #548 Sizzlack

I laughed out loud at the radio announcement of the Panetta appointment while driving with my wife yesterday. She asked me what was so funny, and I couldn't explain why I found it hilarious (as opposed to my normal reaction which would have been anger, disgust, etc.). I guess since the guy is such a hack's hack that I can't get worked up about anything that involves him.

593 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:58:47am

re: #589 realwest

Hey LT, I actually expected to hear from him by now.
Rain probably held him up or something like that.
How ya doing today my friend?

Doing well... fretting for you (and Custer)...nevermind, Custer is a lost cause, fretting for you. Hang tough!

594 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:58:48am

re: #581 bosforus

Ugh. It's like a mental illness. Best case scenario - no one disagreed with her because they didn't want to engage her in conversation. I mean, did you spark up a conversation with her about it? Exactly. No one else did either. When she told you she didn't want to live past 2016 you should have said, do you promise?


Not being able to totally resist I did say. "look it might be over 1n 2012, since obama looks like a one termer. We will have President Palin then.'
It was as usual like she didn't hear a word. She is harmless & everbody humors her, but people like that vote.

595 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:59:15am

re: #586 Joo-LiZ

and this article warms my heart as well:

From the same source, an isranet daily briefing e-mail:

ON THE PILOT’S MIND
Giora Rom
Ha’aretz, January 4, 2009

(emphasis mine)

Oops, emphasis should have covered the last paragraph as well...

Just goes to show, the IDF and IAF know EXACTLY why they do what they are doing, not just following blind orders.

596 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:59:44am

re: #588 Dustyvet

Accused jihadist claims government using mind control tactics on him, asks for exorcist

Not until his frigging head spins...:)

Youtube Video
597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:00:17am

re: #591 aussiemagpie

Oh no! All that dust on the furniture!

On a serious note, is Yellowstone due for an eruption? I did read something a while ago about this

Or has Goreball Warming/ Climate Change hysteria jumped the shark?

Technically it's overdue... but that is using an average time of previous eruptions... a meaningless number.

We just want it to happen thousands of years from now, when the Islamists or Red Chinese run North America.

598 razorbacker  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:00:44am

Temps rocketed all the way up to 33 degrees, so I'm out and about.

Have a productive day, y'all.

599 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:00:48am

re: #578 opnion

She should have responded with "Since you're so into gay marriage, why aren't you cuddling up with Barney Frank right now?".

600 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:01:01am

re: #562 Nevergiveup

Iceland condemns IDF's operation in Gaza

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Who?

And to think I had an uncle who helped defend Iceland in WWII.

601 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:01:05am

re: #590 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It will be bigger after this.

Go then.

Open air seating, man! Outside in God's country!

602 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:01:13am

re: #556 Nevergiveup

If Yellowstone Blows is that Bush's fault?

Hey, if yellowstone blows, mount Rushmore sucks too. Oh, wait. Nevermind

603 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:01:48am

re: #585 lawhawk

Damnit... and I haven't even had a chance to visit it and see it before it decides to blow the roof off the world.

some mighty awsome country up there bro...the Tetons, Yellowstone river valley...

604 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:01:50am
605 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:02:20am

re: #600 Kosh's Shadow

And to think I had an uncle who helped defend Iceland in WWII.

What 1SGT did he piss off?

606 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:02:29am

re: #543 lawhawk
Hey lawhawk - good post! Isn't your blog named "A Blog for All" and aren't you in the running for Best Small Blog in those weblog awards? I forgot the link to it - do you happen to have it handy (did vote for you, Jammie - in a different category and LGF in a different category yesterday and think my 24 hours is up and I can now vote again!

607 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:02:35am

re: #588 Dustyvet

Accused jihadist claims government using mind control tactics on him, asks for exorcist

Not until his frigging head spins...:)

The real people that used mind control on him were the ones that made him a jihadist - the imams and others who taught him Islam.

608 bosforus  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:02:42am

re: #594 opnion

...but people like that vote.

Yup, and that's the scary part. Just make sure to keep her informed of what the MSM doesn't tell her about Obama for the next 4-8 years. That is, if you have that kind of patience.

609 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:02:57am

re: #599 Lincolntf

She should have responded with "Since you're so into gay marriage, why aren't you cuddling up with Barney Frank right now?".


If she thought of it, she probably would have said it. She treats Colmes like he's an idiot.

610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:03:22am

re: #609 opnion

If she thought of it, she probably would have said it. She treats Colmes like he's an idiot.

Then you have something in common with her!

611 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:03:39am

re: #591 aussiemagpie

Oh no! All that dust on the furniture!

On a serious note, is Yellowstone due for an eruption? I did read something a while ago about this

Or has Goreball Warming/ Climate Change hysteria jumped the shark?

Actually, Yellowstone is about due, though it's not exactly on a precise schedule. It appears to erupt about once every 600,000 years and we're at something like 630,000 since the last one (all this from memory). You may have seen some recent articles on earthquake swarms that have been detected there in recent weeks. That always renew discussion of an eruption.

I haven't heard any involvement from Algore in conjunction with this lately.

612 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:04:19am

Good morning (as the case may be), my Zionist Honco Homies.

And now it's time for...

More Adventures in IslamoMathe-Magicland!

Taliban claim to have killed 5,220 foreign troops in 2008

The Taliban claims its forces last year killed 5,220 foreign troops, downed 31 aircraft, destroyed 2,818 NATO and Afghan vehicles and killed 7,552 Afghan soldiers and police.

Though third-party observers can rarely confirm casualty claims on the Afghan battlefield from the Taliban, the Afghan government, the U.S. or NATO, the Taliban's 2008 numbers would appear to be far from the truth.

NATO's member countries announce all troop deaths, providing names, ages and hometowns and how the soldiers were killed. According to an Associated Press tally of those announcements, 286 foreign military personnel died last year in Afghanistan, including 151 Americans and 51 Britons.

It's a quagmire of the mind!

613 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:04:20am

re: #610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Then you have something in common with her!

Yeah

614 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:04:30am

re: #609 opnion

If she thought of it, she probably would have said it. She treats Colmes like he's an idiot.

then she's obviously fair...

615 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:04:35am

re: #545 Nevergiveup
Wow, they actually took time off from seething to do that?
They took time off from making suicide bomb vests to do that?
Wow, I are impress!
mofos.

616 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:05:11am

Reagan's buddy refusenik Anatoly Scharansky, whom Reagan got Gorby to release, is now a statesman in Israel, as Natan Scharansky.

He nails how Israel is defamed by people who use children as humans shields by you know who.

Why not give these "victims" vouchers instead of welfare & refugee "settlements"?

JANUARY 6, 2009

How the U.N. Perpetuates the 'Refugee' Problem
Nowhere on earth do terrorists get so much help from the Free World.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

617 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:05:26am

re: #605 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

(Me: And to think I had an uncle who helped defend Iceland in WWII.)


What 1SGT did he piss off?


I don't know; he died before he was born.
But I have some war souvenirs from him; some simple Nazi medal, a German army officers' short sword; a German canteen, and a lamp made of various size cartridges (some with bullets; I believe they were cleaned out)
And a book on how the US defended Iceland.

618 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:06:21am

re: #617 Kosh's Shadow

Was he in the USAAF or ground army? Something else?

619 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:07:14am

re: #618 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Was he in the USAAF or ground army? Something else?

Ground army. I don't know much else; my aunts didn't know much about what he actually did there.

620 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:07:20am

re: #588 Dustyvet

Accused jihadist claims government using mind control tactics on him, asks for exorcist

Not until his frigging head spins...:)

Exorcist schmexsorcist- this guy needs an AFDB

Besides, and exorcism would separate him from his "god".

Imagine the scandal...

621 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:07:32am

That they, NBC, dumped Coulter but keeps that slimeball Perez Hilton is disgusting. This guy whiteboard draws "stuff" coming out of the mouths of people and draws genitalia on others. His site is lewd and crude. And this is what NBC picks?

NBC is a big joke.

622 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:07:51am

IDF Boys & Girls - Tribute

Youtube Video
623 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:08:07am

re: #560 summergurl
WHAT?!? But that idiot with the black hair on Fox and Friends said Burris was going to D.C. next Monday!
OK, y'all, I was apparently not listening carefully to him, so get that popcorn ready!

624 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:08:08am

Word of the Day:

"People."

As in

"500 PEOPLE have been killed in Gaza."

"12 PEOPLE were killed in an Israeli air strike on a UN school." (which for some reason causes more outrage than the fact that the UN openly has Hamas members on the payroll and their buildings are routinely used as shields.)

PEOPLE.

Learn it.
Love it.
Live it.

625 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:09:18am

idf


Youtube Video
626 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:09:31am

re: #619 Kosh's Shadow

Ground army. I don't know much else; my aunts didn't know much about what he actually did there.

Naval Air Station Keflavik

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

I am sure it played a part in the convoy system in WW2

627 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:09:39am

re: #571 opnion
Thank you kindly!

628 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:09:56am

And once again: why we, despite the current temporary low prices, must wean ourselves of our oil addiction: Iran and Bahrain urge the Arab world to use oil as weapon against Israel’s international supporters. Calls to use oil as weapon in Gaza fight fall flat

- windmills, solar farms, nuclear plants, fusion and electric cars. More more.

629 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:10:10am
630 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:10:41am

re: #627 realwest

Thank you kindly!

My pleasure & I will even drop a prayer.

631 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:10:47am

re: #624 Ben Hur

Word of the Day:

"People."

As in

"500 PEOPLE have been killed in Gaza."

"12 PEOPLE were killed in an Israeli air strike on a UN school." (which for some reason causes more outrage than the fact that the UN openly has Hamas members on the payroll and their buildings are routinely used as shields.)

PEOPLE.

Learn it.
Love it.
Live it.

Of course, if Israelis are killed, they're "settlers" or "soldiers"

632 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:10:51am

re: #619 Kosh's Shadow

Ground army. I don't know much else; my aunts didn't know much about what he actually did there.

Do you or other relatives have his discharge papers? I have my dad's, who lived until I was 26 but never talked about it... it was only from those documents was I able to find out his MOS (cavalryman) and unit (recon Bn, 12 Arm Div).

A couple of those details and it would be possible to figure where he was and what he did (in general terms).

633 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:11:04am

Just when you thought it was safe to turn the radio back on:

Roseanne Barr will host a show on Pacifica's KPFK.

Los Angeles, CA – Comic legend Roseanne Barr returns to the airwaves with her partner Johnny Argent this Wednesday January 7th 2009 at 5PM PST on fiercely independent KPFK Radio. KPFK is progressive radio for all of Southern California and can be heard at 90.7FM in Los Angeles and San Diego, 98.7FM in Santa Barbara and worldwide at [Link: www.KPFK.org....]

Frazzled commuters and Internet junkies alike can catch Roseanne and Johnny for a series of special programming this winter and spring every Wednesday at 5PM for an hour of stimulating conversation. From politics to economics, radical ideas and beyond, no topic will be too taboo for this dynamic duo.

In a promo spot currently running on KPFK, Roseanne says, "In addition to offering insights and expert analysis on the nut jobs running things, we'll have great guests and call-ins from KPFK listeners, who are the smartest radio audience in the world. Of course, my slightly bitter, but right-on-the-money partner Johnny Argent will keep things rolling. We are so jazzed to be doing this radio show!"

Apparently Johnny agrees. "We're ready to rattle some cages, step on some toes, burn some bridges and probably get audited and wind up on some FBI list," says Argent in the same spot. Roseanne adds, "Been there, done that."

According to the show's Producer, Christine Blosdale, the program is expected to stir up some interest not only due to Roseanne's famous voice, but because of her no-nonsense take on the issues as well. "Roseanne is one of those who just make an impact on you," Blosdale said. "In the late 80s she changed television for the better by addressing subjects important to the struggling class – working families who barely earn enough to make ends meet. I think she's perfect for KPFK and I'm really excited about having her and Johnny on the air together."

634 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:11:32am

re: #626 Nevergiveup

Naval Air Station Keflavik

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

I am sure it played a part in the convoy system in WW2

Yes, I believe aircraft protected convoys over part of their route. There was a gap in coverage, though.

635 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:12:01am

re: #628 Rune

And once again: why we, despite the current temporary low prices, must wean ourselves of our FOREIGN oil addiction dependence: Iran and Bahrain urge the Arab world to use oil as weapon against Israel’s international supporters. Calls to use oil as weapon in Gaza fight fall flat

- windmills, solar farms, nuclear plants, fusion and electric cars. More more.

636 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:12:26am

re: #623 realwest

He's going there this morning sometime. Let's hope Dingy Harry gets out the firehoses and guard dogs to really show the people the truth about who were the racists back in the day.

637 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:12:43am

re: #553 realwest

Hey there gorgeous and *smoochies* back to you!
Yeah well yesterday they took blood, sometime today (hopefully within an hour or so) I'll get the results.
Thanks for asking - how are you doing - all stocked up on wine firedwood for the coming snowstorm?!

Yup. I'll recruit Mr. Snowblower Man to lug it all up from the storage area to the fireplace for me. Should be hugely entertaining!

I'm pulling for ya, hon. *hug*

638 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:13:19am

re: #629 Iron Fist

Gorebull Warming hasn't just jumped the shark. It is the shark. And the boat. It is kind of a Grand Unified Theory of stupid, that ties all things, even apparently non-related things, together into one politically correct ball of yarn.


LOL! I'm keeping that one!

639 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:13:39am

re: #624 Ben Hur

you are lying thru your teeth if you want to deny those casualties as ”people".. how are they people ? just because that shows how cannibal, uncultured, self subservient monstrous idiots you are .. may yo and the rest of your sickening zionist honcos rot in hell one day

/a quote like that is just too good not to recycle

640 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:13:45am

well I guess if things don't work out for Franken, Obama can appoint him court jester....all thats missing in this administration so far!

641 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:14:08am

Is this "Surge" by IDF very different than what the US finally did to beat Al Qaeda in Iraq? Anyone?

Are we not proposing to "surge" troops into Afghanistan for the same reason, to beat the Taliban and AlQaeda?

Surging is what grown ups do to stop jihadists.

642 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:14:29am

re: #640 Beach Lover

well I guess if things don't work out for Franken, Obama can appoint him court jester....all thats missing in this administration so far!

But...but... he's not funny!

643 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:14:39am

re: #632 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Do you or other relatives have his discharge papers? I have my dad's, who lived until I was 26 but never talked about it... it was only from those documents was I able to find out his MOS (cavalryman) and unit (recon Bn, 12 Arm Div).

A couple of those details and it would be possible to figure where he was and what he did (in general terms).

No, I don't have those, and I don't believe I have my father's, but I do have a book my father's organization printed on their travels and operations. They printed maps and processed photo recon. Some time in North Africa, France, and Germany; sometime, I need to go through my father's photographs. There are some interesting ones in there. He took pictures of a hangar where the Germans had aircraft hidden, including one of the flying wings, IIRC.
He also got to attend High Holiday services in the Paris Opera House.

644 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:15:18am

re: #641 alegrias

Are we not proposing to "surge" troops into Afghanistan for the same reason, to beat the Taliban and AlQaeda?

They'll be walking into a deathtrap! The Taliban have killed over eleventy billion foreign troops in Afghanistan just last year! (See my post above)

645 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:15:21am

re: #639 Occasional Reader

you are lying thru your teeth if you want to deny those casualties as ”people".. how are they people ? just because that shows how cannibal, uncultured, self subservient monstrous idiots you are .. may yo and the rest of your sickening zionist honcos rot in hell one day

/a quote like that is just too good not to recycle

I wish Charles would put that on a T-shirt - I'd definitely buy one.

646 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:15:32am

re: #640 Beach Lover

well I guess if things don't work out for Franken, Obama can appoint him court jester....all thats missing in this administration so far!

Youtube Video
647 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:16:20am

Burris on his way to the Capital. This is better than Redskin's Football!

648 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:16:42am
649 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:16:57am

re: #642 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

But...but... he's not funny!

no, but he is a joke!

650 A.W.  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:17:08am

Ah, barf, now al-reuters is claiming a school full of students were massacred. you can use the link on my name to find the article.

Sheesh, no one learned anything from Jenin?

651 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:17:10am

re: #597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Technically it's overdue... but that is using an average time of previous eruptions... a meaningless number.

We just want it to happen thousands of years from now, when the Islamists or Red Chinese run North America.

If we worried about everything around us we'd be next to useless and on medications while hiding under the bed :-)

And I've just read the link about the Milky Way heading on a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy......

652 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:17:18am

re: #602 opnion
Hey opnion - seriously, has there been significantly more seismic activity at Yellowstone and are scientists saying it's gonna blow any day now, or is this just a running joke out her that I missed the start of?!

653 Hard Right  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:18:30am

re: #621 summergurl

That they, NBC, dumped Coulter but keeps that slimeball Perez Hilton is disgusting. This guy whiteboard draws "stuff" coming out of the mouths of people and draws genitalia on others. His site is lewd and crude. And this is what NBC picks?

NBC is a big joke.

Perez is one of those homosexuals who gets off on outing gay actors that are in the closet. He is a POS.

654 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:18:45am

re: #644 Occasional Reader

They'll be walking into a deathtrap! The Taliban have killed over eleventy billion foreign troops in Afghanistan just last year! (See my post above)

* * *
Hi Occasional, yes I saw your magic mujaheddin numbers of victory over infidels claimed by Taliban and reported as fact by their stooges!

Just like media take at face value that IDF targets all Hamas' children--haven't you seen all the pictures of thousands of wounded children being carried towards the waiting cameras by young men who aren't their fathers?

655 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:18:55am

A belated good morning to all.
Does anyone here happen to know of a good, concise (hopefully somewhat apolitical) web-site that illustrates that the Global Warning claims made by Gore, etc. have been debunked? I'm in a "discussion" on another board and someone wants to see facts/figures. When I Google or go to obvious sources, I find a lot of "hot-air" mixed in with the data.

656 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:19:09am

re: #643 Kosh's Shadow

No, I don't have those, and I don't believe I have my father's, but I do have a book my father's organization printed on their travels and operations. They printed maps and processed photo recon. Some time in North Africa, France, and Germany; sometime, I need to go through my father's photographs. There are some interesting ones in there. He took pictures of a hangar where the Germans had aircraft hidden, including one of the flying wings, IIRC.
He also got to attend High Holiday services in the Paris Opera House.

years ago I stumbled onto a wad of pictures of mom and dad in their day...flipping thru them there was a 5x7 seven of a squad of Marines, weapons slung about etc in the classic pose and there was my dad holding up one corner of a large Japanese battle flag!...Saipan...I just about shit

657 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:19:37am

re: #652 realwest

Hey opnion - seriously, has there been significantly more seismic activity at Yellowstone and are scientists saying it's gonna blow any day now, or is this just a running joke out her that I missed the start of?!

Put it this way: Smarter-than-average bears have been spotted fleeing the park.

658 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:19:47am

re: #652 realwest

Hey opnion - seriously, has there been significantly more seismic activity at Yellowstone and are scientists saying it's gonna blow any day now, or is this just a running joke out her that I missed the start of?!

It's mostly a joke, but if it ever blows, then the jokes on us.

659 redstateredneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:19:59am

re: #649 Beach Lover
{Beachie}!
Happy New Year

660 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:20:40am

re: #612 Occasional Reader

Yet they believe and propagate the Palis #'s.

661 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:20:45am

Well, I'm no buzzsawmonkey *bows to his brilliant talent* but I took a shot a re-writing lyrics.

~ With apologies to Patsy Cline

I’ll blow to pieces
When I detonate my ‘splodey-belt
I’ll blow to pieces
Black evil in my heart, will be spilt!

My a** in the air - five times a day
Agreeing with what my mullah says – kill the infidels!
I bash and I bash, my lumpy head on the rug
In a murderous rage and I’ll blow to pieces

Now I’ve blown to pieces
Ball-bearings and screws jam-packed within
I’ve blown to pieces
My reward, 72 virgins

You told me that paradise is my reward
With doe-eyed virgins, too, raisins and honeydew
But now, I roast in hell, and I’m screaming too
Eternal fire, my black soul blown to pieces

We’ll pick up the pieces
Bless each one and mourn the dead
We’ll pick up the pieces
Never forgive and never forget.

662 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:20:48am

re: #617 Kosh's Shadow
"I don't know; he died before he was born." and yet still found the time to defend Iceland!
:)

663 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:20:56am

re: #643 Kosh's Shadow

No, I don't have those, and I don't believe I have my father's, but I do have a book my father's organization printed on their travels and operations. They printed maps and processed photo recon. Some time in North Africa, France, and Germany; sometime, I need to go through my father's photographs. There are some interesting ones in there. He took pictures of a hangar where the Germans had aircraft hidden, including one of the flying wings, IIRC.
He also got to attend High Holiday services in the Paris Opera House.

Somebody knowledgeable in the history of the ETO could put the book and photos together in a way that does a good job of giving you an idea of where he was and what he was involved with. Given the job they did, they were probably associated with a corps or army HQ and that helps narrow where he'd be quite a bit.

664 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:21:29am

re: #654 alegrias

your magic mujaheddin numbers of victory over infidels claimed by Taliban and reported as fact by their stooges!

Just like media take at face value

Well... ah, to be fair, the ABC News story I linked to is titled "Taliban Whopper: Claim 5,220 Foreign Troops Killed". So at least in this case, they're not exactly taking the Taliban claims at face value.

665 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:21:30am

re: #563 Sizzlack

LOL. Does Iceland even have a military? Or do they just throw snowballs and icicles at invaders?

Iceland has no army, but a little naval power. Most of its defense requirements are maintained by Denmark of which it was a part until 1940.

re: #565 Nevergiveup

Do we have a base on Iceland?

The USA had a rather large base on Iceland until quite recently. It is closed now. The Icelandic president suggested a few weeks ago to give it to Russia. (they quietly declined the offer)

666 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:22:23am

re: #652 realwest

Hey opnion - seriously, has there been significantly more seismic activity at Yellowstone and are scientists saying it's gonna blow any day now, or is this just a running joke out her that I missed the start of?!

More activity of late. Blow soon? Anybody's guess... hell, it might be working off pressure such that we don't have to worry about it.

667 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:22:26am

re: #665 Rune

The USA had a rather large base on Iceland until quite recently. It is closed now. The Icelandic president suggested a few weeks ago to give it to Russia. (they quietly declined the offer)

Until recently, we were the de facto Air Force for Iceland.

668 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:22:37am

re: #611 eschew_obfuscation

Actually, Yellowstone is about due, though it's not exactly on a precise schedule. It appears to erupt about once every 600,000 years and we're at something like 630,000 since the last one (all this from memory). You may have seen some recent articles on earthquake swarms that have been detected there in recent weeks. That always renew discussion of an eruption.

I haven't heard any involvement from Algore in conjunction with this lately.

Oops... I left out a bit - I meant to say are we due for a different campaign of scare tactics as GW hysteria may have jumped the shark ie the facts are refusing to comply with the GW religion

I do have an excuse for not being coherent - it's after 2am here :-)

And yes I did read about the extra activity at Yellowstone

669 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:22:52am

I posted this moonbat blather yesterday, but I thought I would see if anyone here now might have a response. It's incredibly subjective, but there must be some sort of evidence of the rampant anti-Israeli sentiments we all see every day in "polite society". Thanks.

Finally, you wrote that criticizing Israel in most groups is safe. Your actual words were "very safe."
Contrary to what you say, it is nothing short of political suicide to criticize Israel. Any criticism gets met with charges of anti-Semetism. EVERY politician pays homage to AIPAC, ranked by Forbes Magazine a few years ago as being the second most powerful lobby in America, right behing the farm lobby. Why should one tiny nation have such a powerful lobby?

670 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:23:00am

re: #556 Nevergiveup

If Yellowstone Blows is that Bush's fault?

Let's face it, anything bad that happens over the next four years will be blamed on Bush. Anything good will be claimed by Obama and the Democrats (already happening with Iraq).

671 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:23:02am

re: #664 Occasional Reader

Well... ah, to be fair, the ABC News story I linked to is titled "Taliban Whopper: Claim 5,220 Foreign Troops Killed". So at least in this case, they're not exactly taking the Taliban claims at face value.

Next up in Burger King's "Whopper Virgins" ad campaign?

672 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:23:25am

re: #664 Occasional Reader

Well... ah, to be fair, the ABC News story I linked to is titled "Taliban Whopper: Claim 5,220 Foreign Troops Killed". So at least in this case, they're not exactly taking the Taliban claims at face value.

The Taliban is doing the 5 O'Clock follies now?

673 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:23:30am

ATTENTION IN THE ROOM!
PRESENT ARMS!

Youtube Video

An American Hero Passes.
Robert Prince, U.S. Army Ranger, 1919 - 2009

The great raider has died.

Robert Prince, the Seattle native and Army Ranger who, as a captain in World War II was the assault force commander of the daring mission to liberate Allied prisoners of war that became known as "The Great Raid," passed away New Years Day in Port Townsend, his family confirmed.


Rest In Peace.

674 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:23:34am

re: #630 opnion
"I will even drop a prayer." better yet!
Seriously, thank you.
Taps fingers on desk wondering why he hasn't called yet........what, does he have OTHER patients to deal with?!?

675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:23:53am

And here comes Burris!

Hope Blago is there, too.

676 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:24:01am

re: #648 Iron Fist

Exactly. That's why Pacifica's in such good financial shape.
/

677 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:24:12am

re: #603 albusteve

It's definitely on my to-do list. Just need to have the time to see them right - two weeks minimum, and probably a couple of terabytes of data storage for my digital camera :)

678 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:24:37am

re: #670 gregg

Let's face it, anything bad that happens over the next four years will be blamed on Bush. Anything good will be claimed by Obama and the Democrats (already happening with Iraq).

Yeah I know. Who Knew Harry Reid was the brains behind the surge all the time?

679 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:24:51am

re: #659 redstateredneck
hey {Red}! happy happy to you too! How was your holiday? I'm barely recovering....so much for a bad economy! Our sales were better than last year. After Christmas sale still going strong. I was really hoping for a little slow down.
And to top it off...had to have a root canal yesterday. the good times just keep on rolling :-)

680 SteveC  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:24:52am

So what do doctors think of the 700 Billion dollar bailout?

The Ophthalmologists and Optometrists considered the idea shortsighted.

The Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but the
Neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve, and the
Obstetricians felt they were all laboring under a misconception.

The Pathologists yelled, 'Over my dead body!' while the Pediatricians said,
'Oh, Grow up!'

The Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, the Radiologists could see right through it, and the Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing.

The Internists thought it was a bitter pill to swallow, and the Plastic
Surgeons said, 'This puts a whole new face on the matter.'

The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the Urologists felt the
scheme wouldn't hold water.

The Anesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a gas, and the
Cardiologists didn't have the heart to say no.

In the end, the Proctologists left the decision up to some assholes in
Washington.

681 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:25:07am

re: #665 Rune

The Icelandic president suggested a few weeks ago to give it to Russia.

You're shitting me.

Did the Icelandic president not notice that, ah, recent unpleasantness involving Georgia? Does he think Iceland would somehow be exempt from the same sort of imperialistic treatment?

682 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:25:08am

re: #675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

And here comes Burris!

Hope Blago is there, too.

Let the games begin...:)

683 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:25:33am

re: #664 Occasional Reader

The AP story indeed has the title right, but they go on to undermine the US/NATO figures, questioning them at every turn, and trying to suggest that things are worse there than have been let on. Also, no mention that the overwhelming majority of all civilians killed in Afghanistan are the result of Taliban bombings and actions, not NATO or US acts.

684 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:25:41am

re: #655 Lincolntf

A belated good morning to all.
Does anyone here happen to know of a good, concise (hopefully somewhat apolitical) web-site that illustrates that the Global Warning claims made by Gore, etc. have been debunked? I'm in a "discussion" on another board and someone wants to see facts/figures. When I Google or go to obvious sources, I find a lot of "hot-air" mixed in with the data.

Climate Audit

Watt's Up with That?

685 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:26:41am

re: #636 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) LOL! No, no the Dem's are much more hip than that, they'll use a Taser on him!

686 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:26:56am

re: #629 Iron Fist

Gorebull Warming hasn't just jumped the shark. It is the shark. And the boat. It is kind of a Grand Unified Theory of stupid, that ties all things, even apparently non-related things, together into one politically correct ball of yarn.

Global warming is the cause of, and the solution to, all of life's little problems. And if you don't agree with me, you are a denier. That's kind of like a heretic, but they don't burn you at the stake. Because if they did burn you at the stake, then the pollutants created would go on to cause more Gorebull Warming.

i have friends who are so committed to gw that they act hurt when i mention
a facts that are counter to algore's nonsense.
like recently, he said the north pole will be completely melted by 2013.
and of course my friends hate to hear that we have had a rapid growth of sea ice and now it is as high as it was in 1979.
also they don't know what to do w/ other facts like the oceans have been cooling since 2003 and for the 2nd straight yr, the earth has been cooling.
facts don't matter to people who have a personal agenda entwined w/ their cause de jour.

687 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:27:06am

re: #673 jcm

Very nice, but where were the real Military Honor Guard? Seemed kinda like a motley crew there?

688 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:27:39am

re: #673 jcm

salute...

689 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:28:02am

re: #606 realwest

Hey lawhawk - good post! Isn't your blog named "A Blog for All" and aren't you in the running for Best Small Blog in those weblog awards? I forgot the link to it - do you happen to have it handy (did vote for you, Jammie - in a different category and LGF in a different category yesterday and think my 24 hours is up and I can now vote again!

Yes, my blog is A Blog For All (and which is the 11th most informative blog on the planet in a recent scientific survey. You can vote 1x per day per category... :)

690 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:28:09am

re: #685 realwest

LOL! No, no the Dem's are much more hip than that, they'll use a Taser on him!

Looks like they are going to escort him to some different floor of the building to "defuse" the issue.

If I was Burris, I'd say hell no... I'm going to the chambers!

691 redstateredneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:28:17am

re: #679 Beach Lover

And to top it off...had to have a root canal yesterday. the good times just keep on rolling :-)


Sorry to hear that. Dental work is no fun, plus it is so damn expensive!

692 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:28:49am

re: #675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

And here comes Burris!

Hope Blago is there, too.

What a circus we are in for the next four years..

Burris, Blago, Richardson, Panetta, Reid, I could go on and on and on

Bet more things will come out because Blago is sticking it where and when he can...

Is it my imagination or has Pelosi been unusally quiet these days?

693 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:07am

re: #671 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Next up in Burger King's "Whopper Virgins" ad campaign?

If they die while killing at least 363,000 foreign troops apiece, they receive 72 virgins bearing 72 Whoppers in Paradise.

694 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:11am

Interesting conversation over in the previous thread (Weblog Awards). How the hell did it turn into a C/E thread from the awards?

/Put my vote in for LGF, and a few other blogs I know of.

695 Hard Right  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:12am

re: #686 nyc redneck

i have friends who are so committed to gw that they act hurt when i mention
a facts that are counter to algore's nonsense.
like recently, he said the north pole will be completely melted by 2013.
and of course my friends hate to hear that we have had a rapid growth of sea ice and now it is as high as it was in 1979.
also they don't know what to do w/ other facts like the oceans have been cooling since 2003 and for the 2nd straight yr, the earth has been cooling.
facts don't matter to people who have a personal agenda entwined w/ their cause de jour.

Some people believe only what they want to believe. See the Kennedy Assassination and the 9/11 conspiracy...

696 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:20am

re: #686 nyc redneck

Global Warming really is a substitute for religion for a lot of people.

697 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:20am

re: #687 Nevergiveup

Very nice, but where were the real Military Honor Guard? Seemed kinda like a motley crew there?

it's a vets choice

698 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:32am

re: #676 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Exactly. That's why Pacifica's in such good financial shape.
/

* * *
Sorry, don't want to bail out California's excesses. Why are we supposed to feel sorry for such bad management?

699 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:35am

re: #686 nyc redneck

Was in a discussion about Gorebull warming with a guy I work with. After I demolished AGW, he said he didn't care about all that. He just knew we had to change how we lived to get off "evil oil." At which point I asked him how is a THING "evil?" That flustered him.

700 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:29:43am

re: #692 summergurl

What a circus we are in for the next four years..

Burris, Blago, Richardson, Panetta, Reid, I could go on and on and on

Bet more things will come out because Blago is sticking it where and when he can...

Is it my imagination or has Pelosi been unusally quiet these days?

Umm, Prozac in her water jug?

701 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:30:31am

re: #691 redstateredneck
and it was done by a guy named Mohammed!
I kid you not!
He had the personality of a sour dishrag

702 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:31:01am

re: #651 aussiemagpie
(pokes head from under the bed) yeah but the Milky Way can take the Andromeda galaxy, no sweat!

703 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:31:02am

re: #683 lawhawk

The AP story indeed has the title right, but they go on to undermine the US/NATO figures, questioning them at every turn, and trying to suggest that things are worse there than have been let on. Also, no mention that the overwhelming majority of all civilians killed in Afghanistan are the result of Taliban bombings and actions, not NATO or US acts.


* * *
It is NOT the US that deliberately burns down girls' schools, but the TALIBAN.

704 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:31:09am

re: #691 redstateredneck

Sorry to hear that. Dental work is no fun, plus it is so damn expensive!

Good. The more expensive the better. Vested interest here.

705 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:31:45am

re: #629 Iron Fist

Gorebull Warming hasn't just jumped the shark. It is the shark. And the boat. It is kind of a Grand Unified Theory of stupid, that ties all things, even apparently non-related things, together into one politically correct ball of yarn.

Global warming is the cause of, and the solution to, all of life's little problems. And if you don't agree with me, you are a denier. That's kind of like a heretic, but they don't burn you at the stake. Because if they did burn you at the stake, then the pollutants created would go on to cause more Gorebull Warming.

Excellent summary!

And here's a list of everything caused by Global Warming/Climate Change, including acne, taller mountains, more kittens, sheep shrinking,
wetter storms and deaf polar bears....

706 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:32:31am

re: #687 Nevergiveup

Very nice, but where were the real Military Honor Guard? Seemed kinda like a motley crew there?

I'm still looking for a good video of the gun salute and taps. For WWII, Korea and 'Nam vets, it's hard getting a honor guard. Few buglers, and few who know the procedures. Active duty deaths get a honor guard of active duty.

707 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:32:40am

re: #692 summergurl

when's a girl to get time to get all the botox done?
I mean...really!

708 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:33:50am

re: #651 aussiemagpie

If we worried about everything around us we'd be next to useless and on medications while hiding under the bed :-)

And I've just read the link about the Milky Way heading on a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy......

Of course, since Andromeda is a around 2.9 million light years away, and nothing can exceed the speed of light, I wouldn't panic for a while.

709 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:33:50am

re: #705 aussiemagpie

Excellent summary!

sheep shrinking,

That's going to have a disproportionate impact on the Palis.......

710 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:33:51am

re: #655 Lincolntf

Here is a fun experiment to try with your friends. Get a clear Pyrex measuring cup. Put a couple ice cubes in it. Fill it with water up to the 1-cup level. Cover with cling wrap to preclude evaporation. Let the ice cubs melt.

Observe what happened to the water level. Then make your eco-hippy friends explain why. Extrapolate that to melting ice caps and rising sea levels.

Then tell them to fuck off.

711 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:34:01am

I'm out... gotta go pretend I can get things done today.

Godspeed, Real, drop me a line when you get the word. Thinking of you all day.

712 Macker  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:34:10am

re: #685 realwest

LOL! No, no the Dem's are much more hip than that, they'll use a Taser on him!

Don't Tase Me Bro!

713 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:34:53am

re: #704 Nevergiveup

Good. The more expensive the better. Vested interest here.


Is your name Mohammed?
*kidding*
kinda

714 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:35:22am

re: #708 Kosh's Shadow

Of course, since Andromeda is a around 2.9 million light years away, and nothing can exceed the speed of light, I wouldn't panic for a while.

The sky falling? Pffftt minor problem....

THE GALAXY IS FALLING! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

715 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:36:22am

re: #710 wahabicorridor

Get a clear Pyrex measuring cup. Put a couple ice cubes in it. Fill it with water up to the 1-cup level. Cover with cling wrap to preclude evaporation. Let the ice cubs melt.

Observe what happened to the water level.

Not to give credence to Gorebull Warmening, but the claim is that landlocked ice is also melting and running off into the sea, not just that floating ice is melting. So your experiment wouldn't capture the equivalent.

716 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:36:31am

Daily News is reporting that an Israeli airstrike hit a UNRWA school in Gaza. 400 people inside were seeking shelter; 3 men died.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency said Asma Elementary school was clearly marked as a U.N. installation. It said over 400 people had been given shelter at the school when it was hit Monday night.

"Well before the current fighting, UNRWA had given to the Israeli authorities the GPS (global positioning system) co-ordinates of all its installations in Gaza, including Asma Elementary School," the agency said in a news release.

UNRWA identified the those killed as three men, all members of the same family, between the ages of 19 and 25.

No mention of Hamas anywhere in the article. No mention that Hamas has been hiding in and among civilians, including UNRWA installations, facilities, ambulances, etc.

Israel may have hit the school by accident, but this is just a one-sided piece with one thing in mind - attack Israel.

717 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:36:35am

re: #684 wahabicorridor

Thank you. Those are exactly the types of sites I needed.

718 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:37:01am

re: #706 jcm

I'm still looking for a good video of the gun salute and taps. For WWII, Korea and 'Nam vets, it's hard getting a honor guard. Few buglers, and few who know the procedures. Active duty deaths get a honor guard of active duty.

Here in the NYC area it is pretty easy. All you have to do is ask. They pay Reservists to take part and it seems there are plenty of volunteers. And when they do it , they do look all squared away also.

719 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:37:26am

I'm going nuts.

Yesterday I read an article in which the author predicted some sort of manufactured or exagerrated "massacre" BS like Jenin, Kfar Qana, etc, within the next three days.

He made a great case and I don't remember where I read it.

Well, not there's this:

Report: Dozens killed in IDF strikes

Dozens of civilians killed in Gaza: Palestinians reported Tuesday of some 46 people killed since the afternoon hours in two separate Israel Air Force strikes on civilian targets.

I'm not saying the PEOPLE aren't dead, but you MUST question the circumstances.

Especially since this report comes from YNET's official Hamas activist/spokesman/"journalist" Ali Waked, whose only job is to hang with Hamas and pretend to have secret Hamas "sources."

I can't count how many times they've rushed to post his articles, only to have to change them later when the non-Hamas fed truth comes out.

720 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:37:32am

re: #713 Beach Lover

Is your name Mohammed?
*kidding*
kinda

dentist

721 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:37:39am

Scientists at the University of Illinois at Champaign/Urbana published the results of their Global Warming study yesterday.
They concluded that the Gliobe has been cooling for about the last ten years! Heretics!

722 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:37:54am

Make that a second school hit in Gaza, 30 dead.

723 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:38:00am

Hoping and praying that the Drudge Gaza school death story is not true.

724 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:38:23am

re: #681 Occasional Reader

You're shitting me.

Did the Icelandic president not notice that, ah, recent unpleasantness involving Georgia? Does he think Iceland would somehow be exempt from the same sort of imperialistic treatment?

If I recall correctly, he was pissed that the U.S. and England would not give them money to bailout their financial system, so he was going to give the old U.S. base to Russia as retribution.

725 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:38:57am

re: #673 jcm
Thank you for that jcm.
RIP Robert Prince.

726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:39:08am

re: #717 Lincolntf

Thank you. Those are exactly the types of sites I needed.

Here is my favorite...JunkScience.com

727 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:39:40am

re: #655 Lincolntf

A belated good morning to all.
Does anyone here happen to know of a good, concise (hopefully somewhat apolitical) web-site that illustrates that the Global Warning claims made by Gore, etc. have been debunked? I'm in a "discussion" on another board and someone wants to see facts/figures. When I Google or go to obvious sources, I find a lot of "hot-air" mixed in with the data.

You might check out a few of these....

Hockey Stick Fallacy

Global Warming - Vastly Misreported (this is a copy of an article from the NCPA - National Center for Policy Analysis).

Global Warming - A Brief History of Global Temperatures (A Wall Street Journal, Opinion Journal piece)

Global Warming - A Closer Look at the Numbers

728 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:39:42am

re: #721 opnion

Scientists at the University of Illinois at Champaign/Urbana published the results of their Global Warming study yesterday.
They concluded that the Gliobe has been cooling for about the last ten years! Heretics!

more and more people are fed up and coming out of the closet on this issue...expect more challenges to Fat Alberts Fairytale...

729 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:39:50am

re: #716 lawhawk


As Nathan Scharansky says, the UN is the problem~giving aid & comfort to the worst among us.

JANUARY 6, 2009

How the U.N. Perpetuates the 'Refugee' Problem
Nowhere on earth do terrorists get so much help from the Free World.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

730 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:40:14am

re: #677 lawhawk

A Blog For All is up for one of the Best Blog poll things, I'm sure you know.

I voted for you.

How 'bout some blog pimping to get your fellow Lizards to vote.

731 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:41:02am

re: #724 gregg

If I recall correctly, he was pissed that the U.S. and England would not give them money to bailout their financial system, so he was going to give the old U.S. base to Russia as retribution.

Incredible. And Iceland is a NATO member, too. What a fucking moron.
A treasonous moron, no less.

732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:41:03am

re: #722 lawhawk

Wonder if that is the same school that Killian linked video where rocket launchers were being used by Hamas?

Still awful, but I wonder.

733 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:41:03am

re: #727 eschew_obfuscation

thanks for the links

734 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:41:50am

re: #684 wahabicorridor
Hey good morning {wahabi} how are you this morning?

735 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:42:15am

As long as I’m in the habit of posting Danish news articles:

A larger number of immigrants to Denmark attend churches than mosques

Immigrants love to go to church. On average, a immigrant congregation is formed every month.

Christians immigrants to Denmark participation in the worship of the country has been growing strongly for the past four years, and the number of immigrant church visitors now exceeds the number of immigrants attending Friday prayer in the mosque.
…

A larger number of immigrants to Denmark attend churches than mosques

736 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:42:41am

re: #728 albusteve

more and more people are fed up and coming out of the closet on this issue...expect more challenges to Fat Alberts Fairytale...


Yeah, it's gotten ridiculous & the evidence is starting to mount against Gore.

737 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:43:10am

re: #629 Iron Fist

I nominate Global Warming IS THE SHARK as a rotating title!

738 acwgusa  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:43:15am

re: #698 alegrias

* * *
Sorry, don't want to bail out California's excesses. Why are we supposed to feel sorry for such bad management?

And speaking as one of the last few sane people in CA, (there are a few of us left) CA shouldn't be asking the other 49 to save our butts. We dug our own Grand Canyon by electing spending fools over and over again. It's our own damn fault. Maybe if we go completely broke we will learn to manage better. I doubt it.

739 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:43:40am

re: #722 lawhawk

Make that a second school hit in Gaza, 30 dead.

Fucking turds at the AP.
"Israel isn't commenting. But it accuses Hamas of using schools, mosques and residential areas for cover."

Hey, AP! You brain dead, in the tank for the terrorist! Yeah you, with lips firmly locked on Hamassholes!
Have you seen this:

Liveleak Video

Or this.

Liveleak Video

It's not a ACCUSATION! It's a fact. Those mosques where weapons depots. And therefore made targets by Hamas.

Fuck you AP!

*spit*
*spit*
*spit*

I'll stop before I get on Stinky's shit list.

740 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:43:51am

Good morning all.

741 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:43:57am

re: #729 alegrias

I have a study somewhere in my files that shows that Palestinians earn about 5% of their keep...the rest is aid jizyah.

742 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:44:08am

re: #728 albusteve

expect more challenges to Fat Alberts Fairytale...

Why, that's the moral equivalent of Holocaust Denial! (Exclaim the "progressives" who are usually happily in bed with Islamist Holocaust-deniers)

743 gregg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:44:40am

re: #731 Occasional Reader

Here are the details (didn't want to trust my memory):

Foreign diplomats hardly believed what they heard when the Icelandic president said that his country needs “new friends” and that Russia should be invited to take use of the old U.S. airbase of Keflavik.

In the lunch which took place in Reykjavik last Friday, Mr. Grimsson accused neighboring countries of failing to support the crisis-ridden Iceland, newspaper Dagbladet reports with reference to Klassekampen.

An internal memo from the Norwegian Foreign Ministry, obtained by the newspaper, describes the diplomats present in the event as “shocked” by the speech.

-The North Atlantic is important for the Nordic countries, the USA and the UK. That is a fact which these countries seem to ignore, the president said, adding that “Iceland should rather make new friends”.

[Link: www.barentsobserver.com...]

744 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:45:08am

re: #742 Occasional Reader

Oy. I thought that said Fat Albert's hairstyle, which would be pretty bad, too!

745 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:46:10am

re: #717 Lincolntf

Thank you. Those are exactly the types of sites I needed.


Most welcome. Also, Christopher Booker at the telegraph (uk) writes about this garbage a lot.

Here's his most recent.

Last week, as Britain shivered in sub-zero temperatures, the Met Office predicted that 2009 would be one of ''the five warmest years on record''.

This statement entertained various US climate experts, such as Dr Roger Pielke Sr of Colorado University, who recalled how last September the Met Office forecast that this winter in the UK would be ''milder than average'', just before we enjoyed the coldest autumn and winter for decades.

Dr Pielke also recalled the Met Office's prediction two years ago that 2007 would be globally ''the warmest year on record'', beating the ''peak'' year of 1998 (see the Watts Up With That website). Even as they made that prediction, temperatures began their steepest plunge since they toppled off that 1998 highpoint, dropping by nearly 0.7C – equivalent to the entire net warming of the 20th century.

The reason why US scientists take a particular interest in the forecasting skills of the UK Met Office is that, through its Hadley Centre, its temperature data are one of the four official sources on which the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change bases all those projections of global warming which have the Western world's politicians under such a spell.

The Met Office, which played a key part in setting up the IPCC, has long since abandoned any pretence that it is an impartial scientific body when it comes to promoting its favourite cause of man-made climate change.

746 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:46:16am

Historian Michael Beshloff was interviewed by Imus yesterday.
Beshloff claimed that Obama's IQ is off the charts & that he will be the most intelligent president that we have ever had.
He made the IQ comment several times, so naturally Imus asked, "What is his IQ?"
Ready? Beshloff said that actually he didn't know!

747 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:46:20am

re: #744 WriterMom

Oy. I thought that said Fat Albert's hairstyle, which would be pretty bad, too!

Why are you picking on Fat Albert? You like a school in summer - no class!

748 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:46:46am

re: #736 opnion

Yeah, it's gotten ridiculous & the evidence is starting to mount against Gore.

the best part is going to be Gores reaction to the pressure...his whole scheme under scrutiny....a good and just fight for the Rightnuts to take up...

749 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:46:49am

re: #743 gregg

Iceland might want to read the news-the Bear cannot be trusted to supply gas to it's European clients, so they are freezing their asses off in the Globally Warmed Climax Changey Hopey current conditions in Europe. To trust them with an AIR BASE? Good Lord! Pass teh stupido!

750 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:47:30am

re: #747 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

HAHAHAHAHHAHAhAHAHAA

Hey hey heeeeeeeeeeeeeey!

751 maddogg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:47:45am

I just got this from Newsman/Hollywood Confidential.

A Political Look at Hollywood
By James Hirsen

A Newsmax Report

1. Annie Lennox and Rosanne Barr Play Diplomats

They’re not just entertainers.

Annie Lennox and Rosanne Barr are now commentators on the Middle East crisis.

Lennox has demanded that the Israeli military strikes end and calls the strikes a “slaughter and systematic murder” of Gaza Arabs. And Barr has dubbed Israel a “Nazi state.”

Lennox told the press that she was “shaken to the core” by the recent Israeli military actions and said, “I was thinking as a mother and as a human being — how was this going to be a solution to peace? How are we going to find the answer in this way?”

The singer also said that the reason she’s speaking out is “to encourage people to get together and protest against this means of ‘conflict resolution’ which will never work.”

Barr wrote in her blog that “the destruction of the Jews in Israel has been assured with this inhuman attack on civilians in Gaza.”

The comedienne compared what Israel is doing today to what the Nazis did to the Jewish people during Hitler’s reign of terror, writing that “Israel now bombs innocent civilians who have been imprisoned in concentration camps in Gaza!”

According to Barr, “The Zionists look German! The Palestinians look like the Jews of Poland!”

Barr also determined that American Christians are the ones to blame for the crisis.

She concluded, “This is what the pro-life, right wing, neo con, evangelical, Zionist, Bible-banging Americans really mean when they say America is a Christian nation, or when they say Israel must defend itself, or when they say the Bible is the Word of God.”

I think stupidity must include a resistance to learning anything that goes against your brain dead liberalness. Fucking morons. A 10 year old child could refute their "arguments" which is nothing more than leftist drivel with no basis in reality. They actually think anyone gives a shit what fools who can't recognize basic facts have to say? Thank God I don't have to deal with idiots of this caliber, or I'd surely be serving time for slowly choking the life from their atrophied brains.

752 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:48:09am

re: #747 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why are you picking on Fat Albert? You like a school in summer - no class!

And it all started with "Buck Buck Number One!"

753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #749 WriterMom

Iceland might want to read the news-the Bear cannot be trusted to supply gas to it's European clients, so they are freezing their asses off in the Globally Warmed Climax Changey Hopey current conditions in Europe. To trust them with an AIR BASE? Good Lord! Pass teh stupido!

Are you surprised that Iceland has the largest percentage of alcoholics of any country in the world?

754 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:48:31am

re: #742 Occasional Reader

Why, that's the moral equivalent of Holocaust Denial! (Exclaim the "progressives" who are usually happily in bed with Islamist Holocaust-deniers)

good...then the fall will hurt that much more!

755 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:48:40am

re: #732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wonder if that is the same school that Killian linked video where rocket launchers were being used by Hamas?

Still awful, but I wonder.

The media is going to crucify Israel for this strike. We need to watch it unfold... were weapons stored there? Did Israel think it was empty? You know they have been calling beforehand letting them know to get the civilians out or family members of Hamas operatives out... you have to wonder if Hamas did this or spun it this way. I hate being so skeptical but you can't believe initial reports and if things were reported inaccurately, you never hear the retraction.

756 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:48:41am

re: #748 albusteve

the best part is going to be Gores reaction to the pressure...his whole scheme under scrutiny....a good and just fight for the Rightnuts to take up...

Well, Gore has Scientists Laurie David & Cheryl Crowe to back him up!

757 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:48:44am

re: #746 opnion

Historian Michael Beshloff was interviewed by Imus yesterday.
Beshloff claimed that Obama's IQ is off the charts & that he will be the most intelligent president that we have ever had.
He made the IQ comment several times, so naturally Imus asked, "What is his IQ?"
Ready? Beshloff said that actually he didn't know!

Are you denying that The One has the highest I.Q. of anyone in history?

Call in the Obama Dignity Battalions!

758 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:49:17am

re: #743 gregg

Iceland is to Strategically important to let Russia in there. Sounds like Iceland needs some attention, there are feeling left out. Since the end of the Cold War, that chunk of their economy provided by the importance of Iceland dropped dramatically.

759 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:49:27am

God forbid, but if children are dead in a school let there be film of Hamas using the place at the time.

760 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:49:33am

re: #655 Lincolntf

A belated good morning to all.
Does anyone here happen to know of a good, concise (hopefully somewhat apolitical) web-site that illustrates that the Global Warning claims made by Gore, etc. have been debunked? I'm in a "discussion" on another board and someone wants to see facts/figures. When I Google or go to obvious sources, I find a lot of "hot-air" mixed in with the data.

Hi, try this site for starters

Climate Audit

And this one

Jennifer Marohasy

761 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:50:11am

This Burris is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I think.

762 Erik The Red  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:50:37am

re: #739 jcm

Don't hold back jcm. Tell us how you really feel.

763 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:50:49am

re: #753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Are you surprised that Iceland has the largest percentage of alcoholics of any country in the world?

Well, on the other hand, think of all the wonderful inventions they've come up with.

Like... erm... the spork.

(I'm assuming it's Icelandic, since it rhymes with Bjork)

764 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:51:29am

re: #762 Erik The Red

Don't hold back jcm. Tell us how you really feel.

Thanks, you'd be standing there holding Stinky's coat too I bet!
;-)

765 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:51:32am
766 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:51:44am

re: #736 opnion

Yeah, it's gotten ridiculous & the evidence is starting to mount against Gore.

i have a friend who says, indignantly, that the severe cold is also "global warming".
(she is really invested in anger and blame)

767 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:51:54am

re: #738 acwgusa

And speaking as one of the last few sane people in CA, (there are a few of us left) CA shouldn't be asking the other 49 to save our butts. We dug our own Grand Canyon by electing spending fools over and over again. It's our own damn fault. Maybe if we go completely broke we will learn to manage better. I doubt it.


There was an idgit on FOX this morning saying it was the right thing to do for California to refuse (not qualify for) Federal money since they have chosen to allow illegal immigrants to go to school on "in state" rates. How can you get into college without the proper documentation? I remember having to have school transcripts etc..

Moronic

768 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:52:10am

re: #751 maddogg

I just got this from Newsman/Hollywood Confidential.

A Political Look at Hollywood
By James Hirsen

A Newsmax Report

Annie Lennox and Rosanne Barr are now commentators on the Middle East crisis.

Lennox has demanded that the Israeli military strikes end and calls the strikes a “slaughter and systematic murder” of Gaza Arabs. And Barr has dubbed Israel a “Nazi state.”

Any more 80's wash-ups care to chime in on the Gaza War? Where's the lead singer of Tears for Fears? Does Mr. Belvedere have an opinion on this?

769 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:52:32am

re: #757 Occasional Reader

Are you denying that The One has the highest I.Q. of anyone in history?

Call in the Obama Dignity Battalions!


Of course not! After the 20th I am applying to be a Unicorn Herder.
The Dear Leader will grant my requst thereby proving at least to me that he is a gazillion times smarter than Jefferson or Adams ever were.

770 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:52:38am

Thanks all. The sites you've referred me to will provide much ammo for my future conversations with the (MA) Liberals I'm occasionally forced to share cyberspace with.

771 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:53:48am

re: #758 jcm

Iceland is to Strategically important to let Russia in there. Sounds like Iceland needs some attention, there are feeling left out. Since the end of the Cold War, that chunk of their economy provided by the importance of Iceland dropped dramatically.

agreed...we should be talking to those folks...but not to buy their economy...I'm not quite sure what it's all about...they seem to have few needs other than food imports

772 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:53:49am
773 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:54:28am

re: #746 opnion

Historian Michael Beshloff was interviewed by Imus yesterday.
Beshloff claimed that Obama's IQ is off the charts & that he will be the most intelligent president that we have ever had.
He made the IQ comment several times, so naturally Imus asked, "What is his IQ?"
Ready? Beshloff said that actually he didn't know!

And I hear he has the biggest........nevermind.

774 Rune  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:55:00am

re: #681 Occasional Reader

You're shitting me.

Did the Icelandic president not notice that, ah, recent unpleasantness involving Georgia? Does he think Iceland would somehow be exempt from the same sort of imperialistic treatment?

The offer was made by the President of Iceland, who is generally know to be something of a joke and the presidential position in Iceland has very limited power compared to the president of for instance the USA. The Icelandic president was severely pissed off at the Brits on account of some (rather nefarious) moves by Gordon Brown harming Iceland greatly.

Russia invited to Iceland’s airbase

The USA also used to have a base on the Faroe Island, now closed. And still has one in Thule, Greenland. The Greenlandic one is to have an important part in the SDI.

775 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #702 realwest

(pokes head from under the bed) yeah but the Milky Way can take the Andromeda galaxy, no sweat!

Should be a brilliant light show though :-)

776 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:55:26am

re: #761 Salem

This Burris is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I think.

Roland Burris has a tremendous ego. He has a crypt waiting for him, with all of his accomplishments listed, with room for more.
He claims that he is the 'Most Qualified " person in Illlinois to be the Senator & his chidren are named Roland & Rolanda!

777 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:55:54am

re: #751 maddogg

I really get sick of, especially the females, opining on Israel and Palis.

I would love for them to go live in an Islamic Arab state for a year. They'd be screaming for the SEALS to rescue their sorry asses in a day, two at the most.

778 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:56:16am

Here is the link that Killgore Trout linked on the first.

Rockets being lunched from a UN School. Wonder if it is the same school that the IDF hit.

779 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:56:18am

re: #765 Iron Fist

They know something is wrong, and they know it couldn't be them. And everybody knows that the global thermostat should be set at a constant 69 degrees. If that changes for any reason, we are doomed. Ice will choke off most major ports, while people in more moderate climates will fry in the hot noonday sun.

one thing is certain: if we don't collapse the American Economy we are doomed. It's a good thing that we elected the One. It looks like bankrupting the Couontry will be his first order of business.

I've been telling myself this for years....it's blatently obvious now what the ploy is...and Americans turn a blind eye....the feds are on the march

780 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:56:20am
781 summergurl  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:56:54am

re: #776 opnion

Roland Burris has a tremendous ego. He has a crypt waiting for him, with all of his accomplishments listed, with room for more.
He claims that he is the 'Most Qualified " person in Illlinois to be the Senator & his chidren are named Roland & Rolanda!

a bit of an ego he has there ya'think?

782 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:03am

re: #777 jcm

I really get sick of, especially the females, opining on Israel and Palis.

I would love for them to go live in an Islamic Arab state for a year. They'd be screaming for the SEALS to rescue their sorry asses in a day, two at the most.

I refer to them as "burkha-bait."

783 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:09am

re: #757 Occasional Reader

Are you denying that The One has the highest I.Q. of anyone in history?

Call in the Obama Dignity Battalions!

Well, since IQ tests weren't invented until the 20th century, we don't have any way of measuring the IQs of earlier Presidents.
Therefore, this statement cannot be validated.

784 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:13am

re: #761 Salem

This Burris is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I think.

A few stones short of a mausoleum would be a more apt phrase, considering Roland Burris.

And I'm not joking. The man already has a mausoleum set up with his "accomplishments" listed on it.

785 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:14am

re: #751 maddogg

Lennox told the press that she was “shaken to the core” by the recent Israeli military actions and said, “I was thinking as a mother and as a human being — how was this going to be a solution to peace?

Annie's trying to "solve peace"?

(Cherry-picking just one small fruit from the bountiful cornucopia of Schtoopidity in your link)

786 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:27am

re: #732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry. Was Killgore. I said Killian. Killian's cool too.

787 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:35am

re: #776 opnion
Watching him walk through the Capitol with all of the security/aides/policemen, etc. is weirdly reminiscent of a perp walk.
Maybe a little foreshadowing?

788 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:57:52am

Hmmm - disturbance in the force - coulnd't get to links or post a link - let's hope this one makes it!

789 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:58:18am

re: #772 Iron Fist

So now it's a Fairy tale? I knew they'd find a way to work gay marriage into Gorebull warming...

it's all the same Shark...
just call him JAWS!

790 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:58:22am

re: #774 Rune

The offer was made by the President of Iceland, who is generally know to be something of a joke and the presidential position in Iceland has very limited power

Ah. So he's one of those "attend minor state funerals" presidents. Good.

791 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:58:27am

re: #771 albusteve

agreed...we should be talking to those folks...but not to buy their economy...I'm not quite sure what it's all about...they seem to have few needs other than food imports

Their economy is hurting for sure. Energy wise they have geo-thermal or almost if not all electricity and heating. They need some POL for cars and equipment, and of course food.

I think any talk on their part of looking to Russia is really just an attention getter.

792 badger1970  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:58:27am

re: #759 jamgarr

Would it really matter to the press and world attention? In the world court, Isreal is always the bully and doesn't have the right to protect itself from extinction.

793 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:58:47am

Fox news live fee getting ready for something in a park near the US Capitol building.

794 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:59:13am

re: #784 Honorary Yooper

A few stones short of a mausoleum would be a more apt phrase, considering Roland Burris.

And I'm not joking. The man already has a mausoleum set up with his "accomplishments" listed on it.

Ooo-kaaay. That has got to be a sign of a mental illness. I'm not joking.

795 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:59:20am

re: #766 nyc redneck

i have a friend who says, indignantly, that the severe cold is also "global warming".
(she is really invested in anger and blame)

Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode in which everyone is sweltering because the Earth is headed for the Sun.

SPOILER WARNING:

It was a woman dreaming; she had a fever. Once the fever broke, she found
MORE SPOILER WARNINGS
that the Earth was really freezing because it was headed away from the Sun.

796 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:59:58am

re: #708 Kosh's Shadow

Of course, since Andromeda is a around 2.9 million light years away, and nothing can exceed the speed of light, I wouldn't panic for a while.

Thanks, whew! Was a bit worried for a bit.....:-)

797 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:00:14am

Michael Beschloss said that? Heh. He too has had issues with plagiarism. Maybe he was copying what Joe Biden said about Obama being the smartest guy around? /

798 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:00:36am

re: #795 Kosh's Shadow

Saw that episode the other day.

799 maddogg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:00:59am

re: #777 jcm

I really get sick of, especially the females, opining on Israel and Palis.

I would love for them to go live in an Islamic Arab state for a year. They'd be screaming for the SEALS to rescue their sorry asses in a day, two at the most.

Here in America, you can live as a blithering idiot and nobody will end your worthless life, because you have a right to be a willful moron. Many other places in the world willful stupidity gets you an early release from the gene puddle.

800 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:04am

re: #776 opnion

Roland Burris has a tremendous ego. He has a crypt waiting for him, with all of his accomplishments listed, with room for more.
He claims that he is the 'Most Qualified " person in Illlinois to be the Senator & his chidren are named Roland & Rolanda!

Goodness! Worse than I thought.

801 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:06am

re: #766 nyc redneck

There is actually NOTHING that cannot be linked to Climate Change, which is very convenient. For example, the paper cut I got yesterday, the fact that I couldn't find my size in a certain pair of shoes...THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!

802 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:13am

re: #798 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw that episode the other day.

The New Year's Twilight Zone marathon?

803 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:29am

re: #700 Dustyvet

Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

804 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:44am

re: #709 jcm

That's going to have a disproportionate impact on the Palis.......

Apparently goats are OK.....

805 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:55am

re: #784 Honorary Yooper

A few stones short of a mausoleum would be a more apt phrase, considering Roland Burris.

And I'm not joking. The man already has a mausoleum set up with his "accomplishments" listed on it.

Wow.

How incredibly creepy.

No wonder he's a Democrat stalwart.

Would it be wrong of me to sneak into that cemetary one night, and spraypaint "Ozymandias" onto the mausoleum?

806 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:59am

There will be a Darwin Thread today.

807 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:02:23am

re: #799 maddogg

Here in America, you can live as a blithering idiot and nobody will end your worthless life, because you have a right to be a willful moron. Many other places in the world willful stupidity gets you an early release from the gene puddle.

"Face it, Dad. Any other country & you would have starved to death long ago."
/Bart Simpson

808 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:02:45am

re: #802 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yep. The only episode I watched though. Just never really liked TTZ.

809 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:02:58am

re: #791 jcm

Their economy is hurting for sure. Energy wise they have geo-thermal or almost if not all electricity and heating. They need some POL for cars and equipment, and of course food.

I think any talk on their part of looking to Russia is really just an attention getter.

they have also been heavily investing their own money in hydro power...(and they have a vocal leftwing to oppose the new dams)...they are processing their own minerals etc and trying to get it done as best they can...if we could help them we should imo

810 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:03:01am

re: #806 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There will be a Darwin Thread today.

Code Pink Lizards............
Say it isn't so!

811 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:03:11am

re: #631 Kosh's Shadow

If Israelis get killed (or just "die", never get murdered), then they are just uppity JOOOS and colonizer Zionazis who finally got what they deserved obviously! DUH...

/must I?

812 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:03:13am

cemetary = cemetery

Sheesh.

813 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:03:29am

re: #806 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There will be a Darwin Thread today.

Darwin and lizards? Oh yeah, Charles is linking to that story!

814 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:16am

re: #792 badger1970

Would it really matter to the press and world attention? In the world court, Isreal is always the bully and doesn't have the right to protect itself from extinction.


The truth matters

815 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:17am

re: #810 jcm

Code Pink Lizards............
Say it isn't so!

I can type it.

It. Isn't. So.

And I just said it too.

816 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:24am

re: #808 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep. The only episode I watched though. Just never really liked TTZ.

You have a screen name like Fat Bastard Vegetarian and you don't like a show that is mostly based on irony?

:)

817 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:27am

Burris not seated, credentials refused

818 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:50am

re: #768 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

ROFL. Funniest comment so far on da thread...

819 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:56am

re: #794 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Didn't Burris recently say that race has never been a major consideration of his political career? Yet his tomb is engraved with "First Black this" and "First Black that" under the heading Trail Blazer.
Methinks that race is muy importante to Burris' career, but he is saving the "race card" for if/when the Senate truly rejects him.

820 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:09am
821 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:28am

re: #801 WriterMom

the fact that I couldn't find my size in a certain pair of shoes

Well, let's be honest, they don't tend to make Manolos in Size 17-1/2.

Kidding!

822 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:28am

re: #781 summergurl

a bit of an ego he has there ya'think?

A tad. This guy has run for Governor once & Senator three times without success. Now he is trying to crawl through the window & look like he entered through the front door.

823 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:43am

re: #820 buzzsawmonkey

You idiot. Because they are not taking enough Jews with them!

824 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:44am

re: #816 Walter L. Newton

Hey. How'd it go last night? Opening night, wasn't it?

825 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:47am

re: #819 Lincolntf

Didn't Burris recently say that race has never been a major consideration of his political career? Yet his tomb is engraved with "First Black this" and "First Black that" under the heading Trail Blazer.
Methinks that race is muy importante to Burris' career, but he is saving the "race card" for if/when the Senate truly rejects him.

Me thinks he just played it.

826 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:06:08am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

Laugh now, Bar Mitzvah boy...

827 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:06:17am
828 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:06:28am

re: #822 opnion

A tad. This guy has run for Governor once & Senator three times without success. Now he is trying to crawl through the window & look like he entered through the front door.

Bet he was born by C-section.

829 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:16am

re: #758 jcm
Well see, jcm, Iceland is bankrupt, then they heard about TARP and the auto-bailout and the numerous states that are supposed to get bailed out of their deficitis and, well, they felt left out!

830 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:19am

re: #825 Dustyvet

Me thinks he just played it.

Same thing with that ex-Black Panther US Congressman from Chicago... It's ALL about playing the race card...

This is disgusting but in reality I don't think Harry Reid can prevent Burris from taking his seat...

831 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:24am

re: #828 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bet he was born by C-section.

It's probably listed on his monument there.

832 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:25am

re: #826 WriterMom

Laugh now, Bar Mitzvah boy...

Question: Do Jewish androids get a 'Bot Mitzvah?

833 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:39am

re: #806 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There will be a Darwin Thread today.

You can't fool me. Pink Lizards = commie Mobys!

/

834 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:52am
835 vascaino4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:53am

Remember that IDF video that was labeled as 'private' on their YouTube channel? I found it from another YT user, andrehamer. It has portuguse subtitles, but english audio.

Youtube Video
836 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:57am

OT - The daughter's Met debut is Friday!

/proud papa

837 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:08am

re: #797 lawhawk

Michael Beschloss said that? Heh. He too has had issues with plagiarism. Maybe he was copying what Joe Biden said about Obama being the smartest guy around? /

Yeah he said it. If you google his name there is a link to the interview.
He seems soooooooooo serious all of the time.
Plageriser huh?

838 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:11am

re: #816 Walter L. Newton

You have a screen name like Fat Bastard Vegetarian and you don't like a show that is mostly based on irony?

:)


It's not that..It's the nightmares

839 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:17am

re: #832 Occasional Reader

Question: Do Jewish androids get a 'Bot Mitzvah?

On Futurama they do.

840 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #831 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's probably listed on his monument there.

First black born of a C-section?

841 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:43am

re: #824 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey. How'd it go last night? Opening night, wasn't it?

No, first full tech night. We preview on Thursday with audience, open on Friday. Conor McPherson's "Shining City." He's a popular Irish playwright, this is his most current piece, it's the regional premiere for Colorado.

842 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:45am
843 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:46am

re: #836 jamgarr

OT - The daughter's Met debut is Friday!

/proud papa

Punchline = "Practice!", naturally.

Congratulations! Wow!

844 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:47am

re: #825 Dustyvet

How so? I've been flipping channels and could have missed something, I only saw a short, weak statement by Burris. Did his lawyer say something "racial"?

845 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:05am
846 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #829 realwest

Well see, jcm, Iceland is bankrupt, then they heard about TARP and the auto-bailout and the numerous states that are supposed to get bailed out of their deficitis and, well, they felt left out!

I don't want to bail out a whole country, however small.

BUT! Having the Russians sitting in the Middle of the GIUK Gap is bad, bad, bad Mojo.

847 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:44am

re: #839 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

On Futurama they do.

Really? Did Futurama already steal my joke, even before I made it up? Pre-steal it, so to speak?

848 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:45am

re: #834 buzzsawmonkey

Heh.

849 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:06am

re: #836 jamgarr

OT - The daughter's Met debut is Friday!

/proud papa

Congrats. What is she doing. Singing, orchestra, what? Show?

850 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:11am

re: #832 Occasional Reader

Yes. And Thai Jews get Baht Mitzvahs.

851 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:30am

re: #849 Walter L. Newton

I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT PUTTING THOSE DETAILS HERE.

852 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #843 Occasional Reader

Punchline = "Practice!", naturally.

Congratulations! Wow!

Thanks

853 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:42am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Globull warming has given us yet another day of freezing temperatures, nights in the low20s, days just above 32 ... but! We did have an hour or so of sunshine this afternoon!

Anyway, here's the latest from The Muqata:

4:51 PM A senior IDF officer in the Gaza Strip said, "Many houses in the area are booby-trapped and underground tunnels were built under them meant to enable the kidnapping of soldiers."
According to the officer, forces discovered a booby-trapped mosque, and among the weaponsm, found motorcycles meant to be used for kidnapping soldiers. (YNET)

4:56 PM Additional warning of rocket launch in the coming seconds/minutes to longer-range Western Negev communities (Kiryat Gat/Kiryat Melachi)

5:32 PM IDF releases additional information. Another IDF solider was killed in action today in Gaza, and 4 more wounded in Northern Gaza. Families have been notified.

Oh, and look at this gem:
2:12 PM IDF arrests TV reporter from AL-ALAM TV for spying on behalf of the enemy.

854 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:06am
855 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:17am

re: #846 jcm

I don't want to bail out a whole country, however small.

BUT! Having the Russians sitting in the Middle of the GIUK Gap is bad, bad, bad Mojo.

So let's just re-occupy Keflavik, and NOT bail out Iceland. What will they do? Overrrun the base with the mighty Icelandic Army?

856 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:20am

re: #820 buzzsawmonkey

The other possibility is that for all their bluster, they are p*ssies.

857 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:22am

re: #849 Walter L. Newton

Congrats. What is she doing. Singing, orchestra, what? Show?


Mark Morris' Orfeo ed Euridice (dancer)

858 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:25am

re: #828 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bet he was born by C-section.

That's good!

859 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:40am

re: #801 WriterMom

There is actually NOTHING that cannot be linked to Climate Change, which is very convenient. For example, the paper cut I got yesterday, the fact that I couldn't find my size in a certain pair of shoes...THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!

LOL, so true.
now i say to my loony friends.
"stop, just be honest and say that you hate amerikkkka, pres. bush, and people who people who can think logically, like me."
that slows them down a little bit.

860 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:47am

re: #847 Occasional Reader

Really? Did Futurama already steal my joke, even before I made it up? Pre-steal it, so to speak?

The episode "Future Stock" introduces Robot Judaism in a scene where Fry and Dr. Zoidberg, seeking free food, sneak into a "Bot Mitzvah" celebration (a spoof of the Bat Mitzvah). As a joke about Kashrut's proscriptions against shellfish, Zoidberg was not allowed in. At the Bot Mitzvah, Fry asks a Jewish robot if they don't believe in Robot Jesus, to which the robot replies, "We believe he was built, and that he was a very well-programmed robot, but he wasn't our Messiah". A banner written in Hebrew reads "Today you are a robot",[4] referencing the traditional Jewish belief that a boy becomes a man on his Bar Mitzvah

861 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:53am

re: #851 WriterMom

I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT PUTTING THOSE DETAILS HERE.

Sorry, I was just being interested, not trying to start something.

862 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:59am

re: #777 jcm

I really get sick of, especially the females, opining on Israel and Palis.

I would love for them to go live in an Islamic Arab state for a year. They'd be screaming for the SEALS to rescue their sorry asses in a day, two at the most.

Making them live in Sderot for four weeks might also be helpful.

863 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:12:21am

re: #851 WriterMom

I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT PUTTING THOSE DETAILS HERE.

Not to worry

864 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #861 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, I was just being interested, not trying to start something.

Well. A reviewer from the NYT could be there. She'd get a mention.

865 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:13:20am

re: #853 yma o hyd


Oh, and look at this gem:
2:12 PM IDF arrests TV reporter from AL-ALAM TV for spying on behalf of the enemy.

If they only worked for the western press they could do that for better pay and benefits.

866 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:13:23am

re: #860 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

So I guess I'm having my South Park "SIMPSONS DID IT!" moment.

867 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:14am
868 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:37am

re: #817 Dustyvet
Hmmm, no real surprise there since you informed us last night that the Illinois Secretary of State refused to sign some piece of paper Burris needs.
Now, apparently, Burris is suing the Ill. Sec of State!
Pass that popcorn, please.
BTW - what is happening over in that park you (or some other lizard) said Fox was setting up cameras in, across from the Capitol - demonstrations, perhaps?

869 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:56am
870 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:15:03am

re: #855 Occasional Reader

So let's just re-occupy Keflavik, and NOT bail out Iceland. What will they do? Overrrun the base with the mighty Icelandic Army?

Have Bjork sing to them until they surrender.

871 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:15:31am

re: #857 jamgarr

Orfeo ed Euridice (dancer)

Nice, and certainly better than the gay pr0n version, Ed's Orifice.

872 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:15:48am

re: #862 yma o hyd

Making them live in Sderot for four weeks might also be helpful.

That too. I just want them to live as property of the males in their family, can't go out unless escorted, forced to live in bag, I want a clue by 4 applied until they get one.

873 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:16:00am

re: #869 Iron Fist

Aim? Has anyone ever seen the Mohammedans actually aim their rifles? Blow a box off into the sky, sure. Spray and pray, baby!

Yes, when they're trying to murder Israeli babies.

874 aussiemagpie  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:16:01am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a lovely yesterday!

I'll leave you with an Aussie creepy crawly story....

IN the suburbs, on the coast and in the bush, Australia's venomous creatures are out in force and hospitals have reported a sharp increase in the number of snake, spider and ant bites.

The number of funnel-webs found in Sydney has been unusually high for this time of year, while hundreds of people have already been treated for snakebites this summer.

Vets have also reported a spike in the number of household pets killed by ticks.

Joel Shakespeare, the head spider keeper at the Australian Reptile Park, said it was normal for about 10 funnel-web spiders to be "donated" to the park at this time of year. "But in the past week, we've had 50 brought in," Mr Shakespeare said from the park on the NSW central coast.

The spiders are milked for their venom by Mr Shakespeare, who said they seemed to be carrying out their annual mating ritual a month earlier than normal.

Although there have been a couple of funnel-web bites this spring-summer -- including that of a two-year-old NSW boy in November -- there have been no fatalities attributed to the species in Australia since 1982.

Naren Gunja, deputy medical director and toxicologist at the NSW Poison Information Centre, said the sharp jump in the number of people presenting at hospitals with snakebites could be the result of the east coast experiencing warmer weather.

Indeed Australia is in the grip of a heatwave that yesterday gave Sydney its hottest day in two years and Perth its 10th consecutive day of 32C or hotter.

"It's normally young children and middle-aged men that are bitten. Children don't understand how dangerous snakes can be, while often alcohol is involved with older males who are bitten," Dr Gunja said.

Read on....and goodnight!

875 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:16:07am

re: #861 Walter L. Newton

I didn't mean to yell...sorry-I just get nervous about people even inadvertently posting personal information...private e-mail is different.

876 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:16:19am

re: #871 Occasional Reader

Nice, and certainly better than the gay pr0n version, Ed's Orifice.


I have to laugh

877 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:16:24am

re: #869 Iron Fist

Aim? Has anyone ever seen the Mohammedans actually aim their rifles? Blow a box off into the sky, sure. Spray and pray, baby!

They don't need to aim. Allah guides their bullets.
/

878 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:04am

This is too funny -

Biden refused entrance to sold out movie - no one knew who he was.

879 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:04am

re: #819 Lincolntf Well two Democratic Congressmen from Illinois have said that the only reason Burris won't be seated is because he's black. One of 'em said something about the US Senate being like a Plantation.
So it looks like a game-plan is in place for this.

880 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:09am

re: #868 realwest

Hmmm, no real surprise there since you informed us last night that the Illinois Secretary of State refused to sign some piece of paper Burris needs.
Now, apparently, Burris is suing the Ill. Sec of State!
Pass that popcorn, please.
BTW - what is happening over in that park you (or some other lizard) said Fox was setting up cameras in, across from the Capitol - demonstrations, perhaps?

Yeah, it gets better from here on out. And they can't use the race card on Jesse White unless they try to call him an Uncle Tom or something. Then it passes into the realm of the very absurd.

881 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:12am

re: #844 Lincolntf

How so? I've been flipping channels and could have missed something, I only saw a short, weak statement by Burris. Did his lawyer say something "racial"?

re: #868 realwest

Hmmm, no real surprise there since you informed us last night that the Illinois Secretary of State refused to sign some piece of paper Burris needs.
Now, apparently, Burris is suing the Ill. Sec of State!
Pass that popcorn, please.
BTW - what is happening over in that park you (or some other lizard) said Fox was setting up cameras in, across from the Capitol - demonstrations, perhaps?

A very short press statement from Burris, and his lawyers.

882 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:14am

re: #819 Lincolntf

Didn't Burris recently say that race has never been a major consideration of his political career? Yet his tomb is engraved with "First Black this" and "First Black that" under the heading Trail Blazer.
Methinks that race is muy importante to Burris' career, but he is saving the "race card" for if/when the Senate truly rejects him.

You can't sescape race politics in Chicago. It is always there.
I attended a vendors conference years back to supply services to the City of Chicago. We all left our cards.
Less tha a half hour after I left a minority contractor called me & said that he would front for 25% of the fees.
Like an idiot I asked if his firm would be performing 25% of the work.
He was laughing so hard I was afraid that he would convulse.
We walked away.

883 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:26am

re: #865 DaddyG

If they only worked for the western press they could do that for better pay and benefits.

True!

Bet this arrest won't stop the western MSM from whining about how they aren't let into Gaza by that baaaad IDF ...

884 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:50am

re: #866 Occasional Reader

Nya nyah!

885 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:18:13am

re: #822 opnion
Yes, but Burris WAS the Illinois Attorney General for four years - wonder if that's an elected position?

886 maddogg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:18:56am

Will Burris add "political whore of the 3rd degree" to his list of accomplishments? How about his personal quest to abolish all shame for his actions? Blogo's butt boy? Democrat embarressment? The list is quite long and getting no shorter.

887 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:19:29am

re: #874 aussiemagpie

"It's normally young children and middle-aged men that are bitten. Children don't understand how dangerous snakes can be, while often alcohol is involved with older males who are bitten," Dr Gunja said.

Ironically the involvement of middle-aged men with alcohol is also a primary cause of young children.

888 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #872 jcm

That too. I just want them to live as property of the males in their family, can't go out unless escorted, forced to live in bag, I want a clue by 4 applied until they get one.

I know.
Thing is, clue by 4s won't work on them any longer.
Brain transplants, perhaps, might ...

889 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:19:31am

re: #885 realwest

Yes, but Burris WAS the Illinois Attorney General for four years - wonder if that's an elected position?

Yes, it is an elected position.

890 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:19:56am

re: #822 opnion

A tad. This guy has run for Governor once & Senator three times without success. Now he is trying to crawl through the window & look like he entered through the front door.

Sounds like he was tailor-made for Blago's little scheme. This is fun to watch!

891 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:19:57am

re: #830 tfc3rid
Good morning my friend! Uh, please see my #868!

892 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:20:07am

re: #879 realwest

Well two Democratic Congressmen from Illinois have said that the only reason Burris won't be seated is because he's black. One of 'em said something about the US Senate being like a Plantation.
So it looks like a game-plan is in place for this.

Patton: [referring to Rommel's book, 'Infantry Attacks' or 'Infanterie greift an'] Rommel... you magnificent bastard, *I read your book*!

893 badger1970  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:20:49am

re: #814 jamgarr

Truth matters very little now-a-days. I do hope you are right and the scum were hiding in there.

894 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:21:06am

re: #882 opnion

That story is deeply, deeply depressing.

895 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:21:40am

re: #880 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, it gets better from here on out. And they can't use the race card on Jesse White unless they try to call him an Uncle Tom or something. Then it passes into the realm of the very absurd.

That's what they'll do...they will call Jesse an Uncle Tom.

896 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:22:06am

re: #828 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bet he was born by C-section.

I'm getting concerned that no one got the joke.

897 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:22:14am

re: #886 maddogg

Will Burris add "political whore of the 3rd degree" to his list of accomplishments? How about his personal quest to abolish all shame for his actions? Blogo's butt boy? Democrat embarressment? The list is quite long and getting no shorter.

He's got enough room to add it to his tombstone, and no, I'm not talking pizza.

898 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:22:20am

re: #878 karmic_inquisitor

This is too funny -

Biden refused entrance to sold out movie - no one knew who he was.

Life imitates The Onion. Wonderful.

899 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:22:50am

re: #896 Salem

I'm getting concerned that no one got the joke.

Don't worry - lots of Wright fans here

900 VegasRick  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:22:50am

re: #896 Salem

I'm getting concerned that no one got the joke.

Big head?

901 norraist  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:23:18am

When did Youtube take down the jawa report's All your fakes video? I just went to watch it (I think the screaming lady is back...) and its listed as removed for TOS violation....

902 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:23:36am

re: #896 Salem

I'm getting concerned that no one got the joke.

We got the joke. [golf clap]

903 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:24:06am

re: #839 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

On Futurama they do.

Are Muslim robots programmed to blow themselves up on "Futurama."?

Duh. It's the Future. There are no Muslims.

904 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:24:17am
905 badger1970  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:24:17am

re: #865 DaddyG

..and immunity.

906 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:24:54am

re: #889 Honorary Yooper

Yes, it is an elected position.

Okay, but being Illinois, I assume it's available for purchase, too?

907 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:25:02am

re: #904 Iron Fist

Good point, but don't they use the butt of the rifle for that? IIRC, that "Hero of the Palestinian Union" bastard they released a few weeks ago smashed a little kid's head in with the butt of his rifle.

The Israelis should have repatriated that bastard to both Gaza and the West Bank. That is, send his head to Gaza and his body to the West Bank.

Make him a good Palestinian.

Samir Kuntar is Lebanese, not Palestinian.

908 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:25:13am

re: #885 realwest

Yes, but Burris WAS the Illinois Attorney General for four years - wonder if that's an elected position?

That was many years ago, maybe twenty. Since then he's run in several elections and has been beaten every time.

909 VegasRick  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:25:40am

re: #906 Occasional Reader

Okay, but being Illinois, I assume it's available for purchase, too?

Auction, you have to bid on it.

910 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:25:48am

...

911 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:05am

re: #906 Occasional Reader

Okay, but being Illinois, I assume it's available for purchase, too?

The tag's on the votes.

912 Pyrocles  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:24am

"Russia's justified aggression against an American puppet-regime pales in comparison to the evils of American hegemony!" /Euro-Weasel

re: #681 Occasional Reader

You're shitting me.

Did the Icelandic president not notice that, ah, recent unpleasantness involving Georgia? Does he think Iceland would somehow be exempt from the same sort of imperialistic treatment?

913 VegasRick  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:24am

re: #908 Hobbes

That was many years ago, maybe twenty. Since then he's run in several elections and has been beaten every time.

He reminds me of Alan Keyes.

914 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:39am

re: #909 VegasRick

Auction, you have to bid on it.

A wag could post the vacant seat on Ebay. Of course Ebay would soon delete the sale & block the account, but it would be funny.

915 maddogg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:49am

re: #897 Honorary Yooper

He's got enough room to add it to his tombstone, and no, I'm not talking pizza.

That reminds me of some of the historical markers I've seen. Like those that say "Davy Crocket took a leak 2 miles Northwest of this point".

916 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:53am

re: #910 madisonsfriend

...

Yeah? Well ellipse this!

/ :-D

917 J.S.  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:27:07am

Lou Dobbs last night had a report about the non-existence of the Global Warming "Crisis." (see CNN transcripts, January 5, 2009, Lou Dobbs). Mentioned some climatologists who are wary of the global warming claims. Their views are presented here at IceCap (they have available at the website a PDF assessing the accuracy of named climate models, and it provides a score card regarding the accuracy/inaccuracy of the predictions to date.) It's an interesting site (also the Myths and Facts section)...

918 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:27:07am

re: #913 VegasRick

He reminds me of Alan Keyes.

Except Alan Keyes is smart.

919 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:27:32am

re: #914 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'm pretty sure that already happened(or at least someone already suggested the joke)

920 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:27:43am

re: #914 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A wag could post the vacant seat on Ebay. Of course Ebay would soon delete the sale & block the account, but it would be funny.

You do realize that's already happened, right?

921 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:28:05am

Skier Suffers Exposure

Man left dangling upside down, pantsless after Vail lift mishap

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

I'd say a few lessons may be in order?

922 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:28:35am

re: #920 Occasional Reader

You do realize that's already happened, right?

Really? Looks like I've had my "Simpsons did it" moment for today!

923 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:28:44am

re: #885 realwest

Yes, but Burris WAS the Illinois Attorney General for four years - wonder if that's an elected position?

It is & he was also the comptroller, so he has won state wide.

924 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:28:58am

re: #916 DaddyG

Yeah? Well ellipse this!

/ :-D

This happened to me yesterday too. I think it must have been my remark about Hamas using schools, hospitals and mosques to store weapons and shoot from their roofs. Must have been deleted by the lizard censors.

925 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:29:00am

re: #915 maddogg

That reminds me of some of the historical markers I've seen. Like those that say "Davy Crocket took a leak 2 miles Northwest of this point".

Or all those that said "George Washington Slept Here"?
He slept so many places, no wonder he's known as the father of our country.
/

926 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:29:01am

re: #908 Hobbes

That was many years ago, maybe twenty. Since then he's run in several elections and has been beaten every time.

Sec. 20. There shall be elected, by the qualified electors of this state, one attorney general, who shall hold his office for the term of four years, and until his successor shall be commissioned and qualified. He shall perform such duties and receive such compensation as may be prescribed by law.

927 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:30am

re: #915 maddogg

That reminds me of some of the historical markers I've seen. Like those that say "Davy Crocket took a leak 2 miles Northwest of this point".

yer goofin on my hero...that's two Ts

928 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:32am

I am going to the Hill this afternoon(really). If i see anything I will report. However, my only camera is my cellphone so Burris would have to be very close to me- and I doubt it will happen.

929 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:34am

re: #922 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Really? Looks like I've had my "Simpsons did it" moment for today!

Yep, shortly after the scandal broke. Someone posted the eBay link here at LGF. It was removed within a few hours. Pretty funny.

930 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:42am

re: #913 VegasRick

He reminds me of Alan Keyes.

Ha, ha!

931 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:47am

re: #918 Occasional Reader

Except Alan Keyes is smart.

And I don't think Alan Keyes has a monument to himself set up for his own tombstone.

932 VegasRick  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:53am

re: #918 Occasional Reader

Except Alan Keyes is smart.

This Alan Keyes?
[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

933 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:55am

re: #913 VegasRick

He reminds me of Alan Keyes.

* * *
Please consider Alan Keyes' actual record of accomplishment, though he can be portrayed as a joke. Keyes is NOT a panderer or PAY TO PLAY politician.

Alan Keyes is a conservative, Catholic, Harvard graduate & class mate of William Kristol the brainy editor of The Weekly Standard publication.

Alan Keyes was named an Ambassador by Ronald Reagan.

Alan Keyes was a presidential candidate who debated with George W. Bush and John McCain in the 2000 election.

934 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:31:08am
935 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:31:26am

re: #896 Salem

I thought it was hysterical. Sigh.

936 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:31:33am

re: #900 VegasRick

Big head?

He keeps getting in through the side-door.

937 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:32:40am

This story just gets sicker and more depressing all the time.

Prosecutor: Teen mother of dead baby to be charged as an adult

GRAHAM, Wash. -- Authorities combing through 60 tons of trash at a dump site Monday found the body of a baby boy who was allegedly killed and put in a garbage can in Port Angeles.

A 16-year-old girl was arrested Friday for investigation of first-degree murder. Her father, 41-year-old Ronald Last, was arrested for investigation of concealing the birth by disposing of the body. She was being held in juvenile detention for investigation of first- or second-degree murder. Her father was being held at the county jail.

[snip]

Port Angeles police wrote that after being born to the teenager early Tuesday, the baby boy was held face down in a toilet by his young mother until he drowned.

[snip]

Investigators say Last, who insists he did not know his daughter was pregnant, saw the body in the trash can but didn't say anything and let garbage collectors take the contents away.

[snip]

Law enforcement in Pueblo has been contacted, and investigators have determined that the father of the baby is a man in his 30s and a friend of the teen's mother.


The girl, her father, and the rapist father of the baby all should go away for a long, long time.

938 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:32:46am

From The Elder of Ziyon:
'The Guardian publishes Hamas lies'

Excellent refutation!

939 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:32:47am

re: #904 Iron Fist

I refer to Shalevet Pass, the story is here (graphic photo warning - and I want to apologize to everyone for far too many of those warnings, but this is war, and this is what Hamas is and does).

940 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:32:51am

re: #932 VegasRick

This Alan Keyes?
[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Oh, he's nuttier than Mr. Peanut's pool party (to quote Jonah Goldberg, regarding I don't remember whom), but he isn't stupid. Burris seems nuts AND dumb (rhymes with "nuts and gum", as in "together at last!").

941 Beach Lover  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:00am

Wonder if it has dawned on our President elect that all this mess spawned in the bowels of his political beginnings and has developed under the specialness than is only reserved for the Democrat party.

942 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:13am

re: #716 lawhawk

Daily News is reporting that an Israeli airstrike hit a UNRWA school in Gaza. 400 people inside were seeking shelter; 3 men died.


No mention of Hamas anywhere in the article. No mention that Hamas has been hiding in and among civilians, including UNRWA installations, facilities, ambulances, etc.

Israel may have hit the school by accident, but this is just a one-sided piece with one thing in mind - attack Israel.

Wasn't there also a wedding was going on at the school?

/

943 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:17am
944 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:32am

re: #894 Occasional Reader

That story is deeply, deeply depressing.

The Chicago Way, now appearing in D.C

945 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:33am

re: #890 Salem
Uh, well I don't know anymore. He was apparently elected in a state wide election to be Illinois Attorney General - see Honorary Yoopers' #899.

946 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:48am
947 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:04am

re: #937 jcm


I can't even read stories like that one. Causes too much... existential revulsion.

948 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:13am

re: #917 J.S.

Lou Dobbs last night had a report about the non-existence of the Global Warming "Crisis." (see CNN transcripts, January 5, 2009, Lou Dobbs). Mentioned some climatologists who are wary of the global warming claims. Their views are presented here at IceCap (they have available at the website a PDF assessing the accuracy of named climate models, and it provides a score card regarding the accuracy/inaccuracy of the predictions to date.) It's an interesting site (also the Myths and Facts section)...

Cool post (no pun intended). I am so very glad that the Global Warming hoax is at last being exposed.

949 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:34am

re: #761 Salem

This Burris is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I think.

Roaland, Plexico, or both?

950 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:35am
951 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:35am

The US dodges a bullet. WA's incompetent Gov. Gregoire not under consideration for a Sec. Commerce (rumors were flying yesterday).

She's in Iraq.

952 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:41am

re: #940 Occasional Reader

Oh, he's nuttier than Mr. Peanut's pool party (to quote Jonah Goldberg, regarding I don't remember whom), but he isn't stupid. Burris seems nuts AND dumb (rhymes with "nuts and gum", as in "together at last!").

That always reminds me of another Simpson's product - the great taste of Worcesteshire sauce, now in a soda! Mmm-mm - steaky!

953 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:35:11am

Well, he has quite a tale for his tombstone now. Not the one he had in mind, I trust.

954 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:35:59am

re: #952 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That always reminds me of another Simpson's product - the great taste of Worcesteshire sauce, now in a soda! Mmm-mm - steaky!

Goes well with compressed floor-sweepings!

955 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:36:05am

re: #944 opnion

The Chicago Way, now appearing in D.C

Just think, the entire country gets to experience four years of the bullshit we see on a Daley basis here in Illinois.

/sigh.

956 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:36:40am

re: #952 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That always reminds me of another Simpson's product - the great taste of Worcesteshire sauce, now in a soda! Mmm-mm - steaky!

I'll bet the Japanese have actually done that.

957 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:36:44am

Good morning.

In Illinois politicians can not be bought. Only rented.

958 VegasRick  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:36:45am

re: #933 alegrias

* * *
Please consider Alan Keyes' actual record of accomplishment, though he can be portrayed as a joke. Keyes is NOT a panderer or PAY TO PLAY politician.

Alan Keyes is a conservative, Catholic, Harvard graduate & class mate of William Kristol the brainy editor of The Weekly Standard publication.

Alan Keyes was named an Ambassador by Ronald Reagan.

Alan Keyes was a presidential candidate who debated with George W. Bush and John McCain in the 2000 election.

Geez, I guess I stand corrected! Keyes is a blowhard idiot just like Burris.

959 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:37:04am

re: #954 jamgarr

Goes well with compressed floor-sweepings!

Wash it down with a nice glass of Red Tick Beer.

960 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:37:21am

I'm trying to stay optimistic about our great country.

I'm trying to ignore the parallels to Lyndon Johnson's "Great" Schmate Society programs.

I'm trying not to buy into the New, Raw Deal mentality that Big Brother Will Provide, Inshallah.

It's disturbing how many formerly proud Americans and American institutions are debasing themselves, begging on their knees instead of STANDING like free proud can-do people, localities, states.

Where did our frontier, can-do, up by our own bootstraps, take-down- the-corrupt-machine-politicians spirit go, back to Alaska with Sarah Palin?

961 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:37:27am

re: #933 alegrias

Alan Keyes disowned a daughter because she is a lesbian.

962 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:37:53am

re: #955 Honorary Yooper

Just think, the entire country gets to experience four years of the bullshit we see on a Daley basis here in Illinois.

/sigh.

You get your Dick daily, huh?

963 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:38:00am

re: #956 Occasional Reader

I'll bet the Japanese have actually done that.

GAURDS!

964 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:38:33am

re: #956 Occasional Reader

In real life, some of my cousins were fond of drinking dill pickle juice through chocolate flavor straws.

965 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:39:12am

re: #960 alegrias

I'm trying to stay optimistic about our great country.

I'm trying to ignore the parallels to Lyndon Johnson's "Great" Schmate Society programs.

I'm trying not to buy into the New, Raw Deal mentality that Big Brother Will Provide, Inshallah.

It's disturbing how many formerly proud Americans and American institutions are debasing themselves, begging on their knees instead of STANDING like free proud can-do people, localities, states.

Where did our frontier, can-do, up by our own bootstraps, take-down- the-corrupt-machine-politicians spirit go, back to Alaska with Sarah Palin?

it's down here in NM...the Alaska of the lower 48

966 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:39:32am

re: #963 albusteve

GAURDS!

SIEZE THEM! (sic)

967 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:39:34am

re: #947 Occasional Reader

I can't even read stories like that one. Causes too much... existential revulsion.


Yet another example of evil in the world.

968 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:39:41am
969 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:40:07am

Israellycool linked to this report: Cleared for publication: IDF soldier killed in northern Gaza

970 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:40:16am

re: #955 Honorary Yooper

Just think, the entire country gets to experience four years of the bullshit we see on a Daley basis here in Illinois.

/sigh.

Be the first on your block to own a Chicago Machine franchise...

971 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:40:24am

re: #957 lifeofthemind

Good morning.

In Illinois politicians can not be bought. Only rented.

Q: What's the difference between a prostitute and a politician?

/I'll let you come up with your own answers for that.

972 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:40:27am

re: #940 Occasional Reader

Oh, he's nuttier than Mr. Peanut's pool party (to quote Jonah Goldberg, regarding I don't remember whom), but he isn't stupid. Burris seems nuts AND dumb (rhymes with "nuts and gum", as in "together at last!").

* * *
Keyes is/was courageous to stand up to the pandering quota-demanding Chicago-machine politicians he was supposed to emulate to be successful.

Give the man credit for being his own man and remaining true to his conservative convictions, faith, principles.

Keyes did not sell out to the hustlers.

973 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:40:30am

re: #878 karmic_inquisitor

This is too funny -

Biden refused entrance to sold out movie - no one knew who he was.

Wait till the boys at Katie's Diner hear about this one!

974 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:40:52am

re: #965 albusteve

actually NM is pretty corrupt but it's so big nobody hardly notices...and all the dirt swirls around the donks

975 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:41:00am

Palestinian kids carrying fake skeletons on stretchers in protests.

This is why Israel is doing what it must. Hamas is steadfast in their demands that Israel be destroyed. Honor and elevate bloody murdering terrorists. That's what they are, that's what they call for, and the world ignores all that to find fault with Israel instead.

Meanwhile Israeli humanitarian aid to Gaza continues to roll into Gaza to help Gazans, who will take the aid and still demand Israel's destruction; Hamas will steal it and/or use it for their terror purposes, but the world finds fault with Israel.

Ah, now this seems odd. We've got a REuters caption claiming that the following photo is of the school where an airstrike killed 3.

What exactly was fired? Machine guns? Because it certainly wasn't anything larger than that - hellfires blow up cars and leave craters and bombs leave gaping craters. Here? A small hole punched in the wall and smaller shrapnel holes. I think we've got some real questions about what happened at that school.

976 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:41:07am

re: #941 Beach Lover

Wonder if it has dawned on our President elect that all this mess spawned in the bowels of his political beginnings and has developed under the specialness than is only reserved for the Democrat party.

The President elect has been willing to speak out against seating Burris. Burris has legal grounds for his actions, one might think the Messiah would shy away on that basis.

977 acwgusa  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:41:15am

re: #960 alegrias

I'm trying to stay optimistic about our great country.

I'm trying to ignore the parallels to Lyndon Johnson's "Great" Schmate Society programs.

I'm trying not to buy into the New, Raw Deal mentality that Big Brother Will Provide, Inshallah.

It's disturbing how many formerly proud Americans and American institutions are debasing themselves, begging on their knees instead of STANDING like free proud can-do people, localities, states.

Where did our frontier, can-do, up by our own bootstraps, take-down- the-corrupt-machine-politicians spirit go, back to Alaska with Sarah Palin?

It went broke, and got foreclosed on.

I really wish that was a /.

978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:41:21am

re: #973 DeafDog

Wait till the boys at Katie's Diner hear about this one!

Seeing how they closed their doors about 15 years ago, they'll be waiting a long time.

979 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:41:28am

re: #971 Honorary Yooper

Q: What's the difference between a prostitute and a politician?

/I'll let you come up with your own answers for that.

I didn't knwow there could be a difference.

980 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:41:59am

re: #955 Honorary Yooper

Just think, the entire country gets to experience four years of the bullshit we see on a Daley basis here in Illinois.

/sigh.

Speaking of Daley , where is he? He must be in the Witness Protection Program. Not one word from him during this whole mess.
I wonder if he's all lawyered up & hangin at Grand Beach?

981 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:42:26am

BBL.

I'm actually off to a rally.

982 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:42:33am

re: #975 lawhawk

Palestinian kids carrying fake skeletons on stretchers in protests.

So that's where the leftover Halloween junk from the dollar store goes!

983 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:42:42am

re: #979 unreconstructed rebel

A politician has more clients

984 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:42:49am

re: #971 Honorary Yooper

Q: What's the difference between a prostitute and a politician?

/I'll let you come up with your own answers for that.

The spelling.

985 faraway  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:00am

re: #980 opnion

Speaking of Daley , where is he? He must be in the Witness Protection Program. Not one word from him during this whole mess.
I wonder if he's all lawyered up & hangin at Grand Beach?

Where is rahmbo?

986 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:05am

re: #973 DeafDog

Wait till the boys at Katie's Diner hear about this one!

Heh.

Biden was tossed out of that movie theater, just like we tossed Hizballah out of Lebanon.

/

987 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:09am
988 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:09am

re: #983 Ojoe

A politician has more clients

OK. LOL

989 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:21am
990 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:24am

re: #960 alegrias


Where did our frontier, can-do, up by our own bootstraps, take-down- the-corrupt-machine-politicians spirit go, back to Alaska with Sarah Palin?

Yes.

991 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:43:26am

re: #965 albusteve

it's down here in NM...the Alaska of the lower 48

* * *
Say, isn't your governor Bill Richardson the now disgraced pay to play ex-candidate for the Obama Admin's Commerce Department?

Sorry, Richardson is no frontiersman--he's an apparatchik all the way.

992 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:44:11am

re: #976 Hobbes

The President elect has been willing to speak out against seating Burris. Burris has legal grounds for his actions, one might think the Messiah would shy away on that basis.

Blago (D-Dead Meat) nominating Burris (D-Tombstone) is an affront to the Machine as it circumvents the Machine and makes it look bad. Hence, Obama (D-Jones) must come out against the nomination.

The rest of the country is just now getting a peak at the freak show that passes for politics in Illinois.

993 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:44:34am

re: #942 DeafDog

Wasn't there also a wedding was going on at the school?

/

* * *
Right, with the usual wedding celebratory gunfire! Just like recess at school in Gaza.

994 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:45:03am

re: #985 faraway

Where is rahmbo?

With the Dear Leader in D.C.

995 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:45:10am

re: #989 buzzsawmonkey

Silence! I keeel you!

BTW, please check out that last photo - the one claiming to show damage from an Israeli airstrike against the school which killed 3. Something feels off there... like that it wasn't so much an airstrike, but targeting Hamas thugs operating in close proximity to the school.

996 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:45:38am

re: #980 opnion

Speaking of Daley , where is he? He must be in the Witness Protection Program. Not one word from him during this whole mess.
I wonder if he's all lawyered up & hangin at Grand Beach?

Yeah, he's pretty damn quiet right now. Very unusual for Mayor Shortshanks.

997 jcm  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:45:43am

re: #975 lawhawk

Ah, now this seems odd. We've got a REuters caption claiming that the following photo is of the school where an airstrike killed 3.

The hole small, to small as you note for a hellfire. More consistent with an RPG, note the shrapnel pattern on the wall.

998 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:45:54am

Australian Kotex Commercial Tells Women to Take Care of Their Beavers
—Ace

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

OK. Moving on.

999 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:46:02am

re: #978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Seeing how they closed their doors about 15 years ago, they'll be waiting a long time.

My bad. I thought there was a gentlemen's agreement not to fact check Biden.

1000 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #999 DeafDog

My bad. I thought there was a gentlemen's agreement not to fact check Biden.

Who said I was a gentleman?

1001 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:46:51am

re: #980 opnion

Speaking of Daley , where is he? He must be in the Witness Protection Program. Not one word from him during this whole mess.
I wonder if he's all lawyered up & hangin at Grand Beach?

I was wondering about that last night. Where is the Boss?

1002 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:47:05am

re: #996 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, he's pretty damn quiet right now. Very unusual for Mayor Shortshanks.

Yes, it is unusual. Advice of counsel?

1003 badger1970  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:47:15am

re: #961 wahabicorridor

Any proof would be appreciated. By the way, Wikipedia don't count.

1004 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:47:16am

re: #1001 Hobbes

I was wondering about that last night. Where is the Boss?

Performing at the Super Bowl half-time show.

1005 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #951 jcm
Geez, as if our troops in Iraq don't have enough bullshit already, she goes to visit 'em!

1006 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:47:56am

re: #972 alegrias

* * *
Keyes is/was courageous to stand up to the pandering quota-demanding Chicago-machine politicians he was supposed to emulate to be successful.

Give the man credit for being his own man and remaining true to his conservative convictions, faith, principles.

Keyes did not sell out to the hustlers.

Unfortunately he mixes certain laudable conservative principles (i.e. support for Israel) with wackjob theocon nuttery. Which harms us all.

1007 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:48:44am

re: #991 alegrias

* * *
Say, isn't your governor Bill Richardson the now disgraced pay to play ex-candidate for the Obama Admin's Commerce Department?

Sorry, Richardson is no frontiersman--he's an apparatchik all the way.

yesterday the ABQ Journal headlined with huge block letters something like 'Richarson Withdraw' or whatever...I breezed the article and the writer was utterly shocked! with regard to the investigation as if they had no clue....that paper notoriously shills for the donks...we have our own little machine down here on the cheap

1008 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:49:05am

Later.

1009 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:49:06am

re: #987 Iron Fist

With as much effort as he has put into it, I certainly hope he gets to use his mausoleum soon. You know he has to be excited about moving in. I wonder, is he a Nation of Islam guy? Hoping for his 72 virgins to keep him company in his nice, shiny new tomb?

Hehe. I figure he's just been conditioned to see everything through race-colored glasses.

1010 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:49:57am
1011 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:50:02am

re: #1002 opnion

Yes, it is unusual. Advice of counsel?

Could be. We haven't heard or seen much of Jimmy DeLeo (D-How You Doin'?) either after Blago got arrested.

1012 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:50:17am

re: #958 VegasRick
Huh? "Alan Keyes was named an Ambassador by Ronald Reagan.

Alan Keyes was a presidential candidate who debated with George W. Bush and John McCain in the 2000 election.
And from that you extrapolate that "he's a blowhard idiot just like Burris." ?

1013 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:50:44am

Here come the business killing gimme gimme gimme Labor Unions.

1014 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:51:33am

re: #1005 realwest

Geez, as if our troops in Iraq don't have enough bullshit already, she goes to visit 'em!

Where's Bob Hope when we need him...

1015 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:51:39am

Report: Pettitte rejects Yankees' offer

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

Bye BY!

1016 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:51:43am

re: #975 lawhawk

Very odd indeed, that photo from that school.

Here's what Carl in Jerusalem says: 'Operation Cast Lead's Qana moment?' - good stuff, and he ends with this:

'Be on the alert. The next 'massacre' may have taken place this afternoon. Don't jump to conclusions based on Hamas propaganda until the IDF gives its version of what happened.'

1017 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:51:53am

re: #1005 realwest

Geez, as if our troops in Iraq don't have enough bullshit already, she goes to visit 'em!

I wonder what goes thru the minds of the troops when this lot shows up?

I was spared that indignity while in Viet Nam. We got to see Bob Hope & he had the good sense to bring Raquel Welch with him. She had the good sense to wear a see thru sweater & no bra. It was a great show.

1018 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:51:54am

re: #1013 FrogMarch

Here come the business killing gimme gimme gimme Labor Unions.

The SEIU can kiss my ass.

1019 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:52:08am
1020 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:52:32am
1021 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:53:16am

re: #921 Nevergiveup

Skier Suffers Exposure

Man left dangling upside down, pantsless after Vail lift mishap

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

I'd say a few lessons may be in order?

Multiple choice response:

1. The whole time he could hear his mother's voice in his head telling him how important it was not to leave the house without clean underwear on.

2. What is that small blue object hanging from... nevermind

3. There was a young man from Vail
Who's lift got stuck on his tail
pants fell to his knees
as he hung from his skis
revealing his backside so pale

1022 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:53:31am

re: #1016 yma o hyd

Very odd indeed, that photo from that school.

Here's what Carl in Jerusalem says: 'Operation Cast Lead's Qana moment?' - good stuff, and he ends with this:

'Be on the alert. The next 'massacre' may have taken place this afternoon. Don't jump to conclusions based on Hamas propaganda until the IDF gives its version of what happened.'

A spokesman for the Prime Minister's Office mentioned the possibility of secondary explosions, but he did admit due to the "fog of war" they are still not sure what had happened, other than IDF forces had taken fire from that position.

1023 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:53:32am

re: #1006 Occasional Reader

Unfortunately he mixes certain laudable conservative principles (i.e. support for Israel) with wackjob theocon nuttery. Which harms us all.

* * *
Sorry, OR, gotta disagree that one man's opinions taint a whole group. Big tent theory and all that.

I am grateful for Keyes' service under Pres. Reagan--who was unfairly painted as a racist by chief justice Thurgood Marshall and others.

Keyes was kind of like Jeanne Kirkpatrick, saying unpopular things at the UN. It was necessary but unpopular to point out Reagan's credo that "government is not the solution, government is the problem."

Keyes had the courage to go out there and carry Reagan's water to hostile UN and US audiences.

1024 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:53:35am

re: #971 Honorary Yooper

Q: What's the difference between a prostitute and a politician?

/I'll let you come up with your own answers for that.

Sometimes you actually get what you pay for from a prostitute.
But you get screwed by both.

1025 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:53:38am

re: #1000 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Who said I was a gentleman?

Well, duh. You drink beer. If that's not gentlemanly behavior, I don't know what is.

1026 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:54:19am

Three cheers for government-run universal health care.

1027 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:54:56am

re: #1018 Honorary Yooper

The SEIU can kiss my ass.

mine too.

1028 nanook  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:55:27am

re: #768 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Any more 80's wash-ups care to chime in on the Gaza War? Where's the lead singer of Tears for Fears? Does Mr. Belvedere have an opinion on this?

Mr Belvedere (Christopher Hewett) is dead. He offers no opinion on the war....

1029 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:56:18am

re: #1017 unreconstructed rebel

I wonder what goes thru the minds of the troops when this lot shows up?

I was spared that indignity while in Viet Nam. We got to see Bob Hope & he had the good sense to bring Raquel Welch with him. She had the good sense to wear a see thru sweater & no bra. It was a great show.

In WWII, my father didn't bother to go to the USO show with Bob Hope. Some other guys told him he didn't miss anything.
I guess he didn't bring any women along that time.

1030 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:56:27am
1031 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:56:32am

re: #1022 Nevergiveup

There were apparently two separate incidents at two different schools in Gaza.

The photo I reference is from the one that 3 Palestinians were claimed to have been killed, and not the attack in which Palestinians claim that 30+ were killed. That's the incident Carl refers to as the Qana moment. I too have updated my coverage to include Carl's warnings as they mirror my own.

1032 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:56:57am

re: #975 lawhawk
I hate to say this, but your post and the links have given me a major league headache!
WHY does Israel continue to give the"Palestinians" humanitarian aid when they KNOW it's going to Hamas?
What the fuck is with that "blowing up the building" crap and why hasn't the IDF called the "reporter/photographer" not to mention UNWAR on it.
And the plastic skeletons - same question.
I thought Israel had gotten hip to the Media aspects of this Gaza intervention?!
Shit.

1033 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:57:21am

Here’s something everyone should probably know:
You may remember that on July 2, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with four
aliens aboard crashed on a sheep-and-cattle ranch outside Roswell, New Mexico.
This is an incident, of course, that many say has been covered up by the
government.
However, you may not know that on March 31,1948, exactly nine months after
that day, Al Gore was born.
Now, that clears up a lot of things.

1034 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:57:21am

re: #961 wahabicorridor

Alan Keyes disowned a daughter because she is a lesbian.

.... and supported reparations...

1035 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:57:47am

re: #1020 Iron Fist

Shouldn't everybody make $100 an hour to turn a screw? that's the union way.

Absent union agreements and government controls would we have out-sourced so much manufacturing to foreign countries? IMHO, no.

1036 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #1020 Iron Fist

Shouldn't everybody make $100 an hour to turn a screw? that's the union way.

The union way is to have them earn $100/hr to turn a screw, and then pay $99 of that to the union as dues.

1037 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:58:18am

re: #1033 Dustyvet

Here’s something everyone should probably know:
You may remember that on July 2, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with four
aliens aboard crashed on a sheep-and-cattle ranch outside Roswell, New Mexico.
This is an incident, of course, that many say has been covered up by the
government.
However, you may not know that on March 31,1948, exactly nine months after
that day, Al Gore was born hatched.
Now, that clears up a lot of things.

Even clearer.

1038 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:58:25am

re: #980 opnion
Speaking of "all lawyered up" has anyone heard from Jesse Jr. lately?
Rahm Emmanuel?

1039 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:58:29am
1040 maddogg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:58:51am

re: #965 albusteve

it's down here in NM...the Alaska of the lower 48

I lived in New Mexico for several years. I love New Mexico. The whole damn thing is truly the Land of Enchantment.

1041 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:59:00am
1042 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:00:04am

re: #1038 realwest

Speaking of "all lawyered up" has anyone heard from Jesse Jr. lately?
Rahm Emmanuel?

Rahm Emmanuel resigned from congress and sits in on Obama's meetings and press things with a shit eating grin on his face.

1043 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:00:27am

re: #1039 Iron Fist

Bob Hope was one of the truly good guys in the entertainment industry. IIRC, he also happened to have one of the largest private collections of automatic weapons in the United States.

whaaat?...that seems bizarre...Bob the Shooter?

1044 bosforus  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:00:46am

re: #975 lawhawk

Meanwhile Israeli humanitarian aid to Gaza continues to roll into Gaza to help Gazans, who will take the aid and still demand Israel's destruction; Hamas will steal it and/or use it for their terror purposes, but the world finds fault with Israel.

I won't be 100% convinced of Israel's conviction to take out Hamas until they stop sending aid to the people they're fighting.

1045 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:01:03am

re: #992 Honorary Yooper

Blago (D-Dead Meat) nominating Burris (D-Tombstone) is an affront to the Machine as it circumvents the Machine and makes it look bad. Hence, Obama (D-Jones) must come out against the nomination.

The rest of the country is just now getting a peak at the freak show that passes for politics in Illinois.

You may be touching on it here, but do you have any idea why the Washington dems have their panties in such a wad over the Burris appointment?

I mean it's not like they've got a problem with corruption.....they defended William Jefferson.

Usually, they'd be calling the whole controversy a distraction and urging us to 'move on'.

1046 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:01:07am

re: #1038 realwest

Speaking of "all lawyered up" has anyone heard from Jesse Jr. lately?
Rahm Emmanuel?

Come to think of it, Rahm and Jesse Jr (D-Bud Light) have been unusually silent. So has the King of Beers himself, Jesse Jackson Sr.

1047 Kragar  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:01:54am

re: #1039 Iron Fist

Bob Hope was one of the truly good guys in the entertainment industry. IIRC, he also happened to have one of the largest private collections of automatic weapons in the United States.

I would have to throw Bruce Dickinson as one of the stand up guys in entertainment. During the Lebanon war, he flew a jet in to evacuate British citizens and has on several occassion flown jets returning British troops from Afghanistan and Iraq. He's very much a support the troops kind of guy.

1048 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:02:55am

re: #1040 maddogg

I lived in New Mexico for several years. I love New Mexico. The whole damn thing is truly the Land of Enchantment.

it still...move back and I'll buy you a taco!...I've been here 6 years and still have alot of exploring to do, and I get around pretty good....PLUS 5.5hrs to Telluride or Wolf Creek in CO...woohoo!

1049 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:02:55am

re: #1038 realwest

Speaking of "all lawyered up" has anyone heard from Jesse Jr. lately?
Rahm Emmanuel?


What the jacksons want us to believe is that an Indian/American businessman held a fund raiser for Jr. to get the money to buy the seat & that brother Jonathon was there , but Jr. had no knowledge.
We clear on all of this?

1050 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:03:21am

Gotta work. Have fun!

1051 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:03:23am

re: #1047 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I would have to throw Bruce Dickinson as one of the stand up guys in entertainment. During the Lebanon war, he flew a jet in to evacuate British citizens and has on several occassion flown jets returning British troops from Afghanistan and Iraq. He's very much a support the troops kind of guy.

Who is he? Sorry about my ignorance?

1052 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:04:13am

re: #1047 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I would have to throw Bruce Dickinson as one of the stand up guys in entertainment. During the Lebanon war, he flew a jet in to evacuate British citizens and has on several occassion flown jets returning British troops from Afghanistan and Iraq. He's very much a support the troops kind of guy.


Sorry to be so darn ignorant, but am I the only one who has never heard of this Bruce Dickinson's celebrity?

1053 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:04:30am

re: #1015 Nevergiveup
Yeah, I loved this: "Pettitte went 14-14 with a 4.54 ERA last season, after starting the year at the center of baseball's performance-enhancing drugs scandal."
And he turns down a $10 Million dollar contract for one year?
He oughta fire his agents pronto.

1054 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:04:35am

re: #1046 Honorary Yooper

Come to think of it, Rahm and Jesse Jr (D-Bud Light) have been unusually silent. So has the King of Beers himself, Jesse Jackson Sr.

Yep, everybody's been quiet. Unusual for Illinois politicians, who love the spotlight and are willing to use any excuse to get in front of the cameras.

1055 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:04:53am

re: #1052 DeafDog

Sorry to be so darn ignorant, but am I the only one who has never heard of this Bruce Dickinson's celebrity?

Your no more ignorant then me.

1056 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:05:16am

re: #1039 Iron Fist

Bob Hope was one of the truly good guys in the entertainment industry. IIRC, he also happened to have one of the largest private collections of automatic weapons in the United States.

Yup. He never, ever forgot about those of us who were serving, no matter how nasty. We loved him.

1057 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:06:52am
1058 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:08:20am
1059 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:09:24am

Disgusting - shameful - horrendous:
Gaza conflict fuels anti-Semitic attacks across Europe

Years of uncontrolled immigration of islamists, years of propaganda by pro-palestinian groups, spread by moonbats and socialists, are visibly bearing fruit.

1060 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:09:53am

re: #1058 Iron Fist

I am ashamed

1061 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:07am

Now they have gone too far!
Islamics ridicule death of Bush's cat!

1062 Kragar  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:20am

Bruce Dickinson, Iron Maiden, greatest band ever. What? You never listened to Metal?

1063 bosforus  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:25am

re: #1051 Nevergiveup

re: #1052 DeafDog

Let's just say, if you've got a fever, he's got the prescription.

1064 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:26am

(repost of #341)
Does anyone doubt that the majority of the humanitarian aid entering Gaza is being diverted by Hamas? Until Israel stops playing this public relations sucker game, it will actually be providing support and sustenance to the terrorists.

Does anyone doubt that Egypt is still allowing smuggling of weapons into Gaza via the tunnels, and that there are still some tunnels operating? Until Israel takes and holds the southern perimeter of Gaza there will be no way to prevent Hamas from rearming from the south. Cutting off the northward flow of missiles from the south by cutting Gaza in the middle will merely shift the launching to the south, and with the availability of longer ranged missiles the end result will be less than satisfactory.

Pending correction of these fundamental tactical weaknesses, the realistic objectives of the mission must remain compromised.

1065 VegasRick  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:33am

*

1066 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:38am

re: #1059 yma o hyd

Disgusting - shameful - horrendous:
Gaza conflict fuels anti-Semitic attacks across Europe

Years of uncontrolled immigration of islamists, years of propaganda by pro-palestinian groups, spread by moonbats and socialists, are visibly bearing fruit.

Yet CAIR is always worrying about attacks on Muslims which never come...

1067 vxbush  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:44am

Let's try this again....

Hello, everyone. After having a swallow study (lovely barium belly now) and a pulmonary function test done this morning, I sit here, trying to push as much water down as I can and not keel over.

May I say that I am surprised that Reid actually did not allow Burris to come in and take his chair? My opinion of Reid is that he is all bluster and little action. So the fact that Burris got the boot surprises me. It does not surprise me that Burris is now talking about legal action.

I get the feeling that in two or three years, the courts will be doing nothing but listening to challenges related to the federal government: election counts, who can be seated, who can't, FOIA claims, etc. etc. We're close to that now, with only a few cases of personal action being taken to federal courts.

1068 Kragar  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:44am

re: #1060 DeafDog

I am ashamed

As well you should be

1069 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:48am

re: #1037 DaddyG

re: #1033 Dustyvet

Here’s something everyone should probably know:
You may remember that on July 2, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with four
aliens aboard crashed on a sheep-and-cattle ranch outside Roswell, New Mexico.
This is an incident, of course, that many say has been covered up by the
government.
However, you may not know that on March 31,1948, exactly nine months after
that day, Al Gore was born hatched.
Now, that clears up a lot of things.


Even clearer.


They need the Earth to be warmer to hatch more of them! It's an invasion!
/do I need to?

1070 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:11:06am

re: #1060 DeafDog

I am ashamed

Prepare for the wrath of Eddie.

1071 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:12:11am

re: #1057 Iron Fist

Yeah, that about sums it up. I looked at joining a Union when I was in my early 20s. It was good work if you could get it. The problem was that it was a lot like joining the Mafia. You had to know someone on the inside before you could go anyplace with it.

Our little business has some dealings with a union involving threats with a pistol and someone punching in someone elses time card.

1072 maddogg  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:12:21am

re: #1048 albusteve

it still...move back and I'll buy you a taco!...I've been here 6 years and still have alot of exploring to do, and I get around pretty good....PLUS 5.5hrs to Telluride or Wolf Creek in CO...woohoo!

Just don't get caught on the Mescalero Apache Reservation hunting without a permit. A Navajo friend of mine did and they threw the book at him. Took his rifle and gear, fined him, but did let him keep his truck.They get big bucks for those permits, and don't tolerate freeloaders:)

1073 vxbush  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:12:52am

Ugh. Iron Maiden. Not my thing, but glad that he's supporting the troops.

1074 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:12:59am

Is anyone else having problems getting new comments, updinging posts or anything like that?

1075 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:13:06am

Obama May Use Chavez as First Test for Talking With Adversaries

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Sure, what could possibly go wrong?

1076 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:13:36am

re: #1074 realwest

Is anyone else having problems getting new comments, updinging posts or anything like that?

Occasionally

1077 vxbush  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:13:42am

re: #1074 realwest

Is anyone else having problems getting new comments, updinging posts or anything like that?

I was, but a reload seems to have cleared it up.

1078 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:14:32am
1079 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:14:34am

re: #1061 rawmuse

Now they have gone too far!
Islamics ridicule death of Bush's cat!

They want the remains of the cat, then they will claim it was killed in a ruthless attack by the IDF, when they bombed the school where First Cat was doing a refresher course on Mousing 101.

1080 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:14:50am

re: #1061 rawmuse

Now they have gone too far!
Islamics ridicule death of Bush's cat!

Heh.
It wasn't a pet goat, only a cat ..

////

1081 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:16:04am
1082 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:17:28am

re: #1072 maddogg

Just don't get caught on the Mescalero Apache Reservation hunting without a permit. A Navajo friend of mine did and they threw the book at him. Took his rifle and gear, fined him, but did let him keep his truck.They get big bucks for those permits, and don't tolerate freeloaders:)

any rez is like that...I have a favorite spot to camp up on the jicarilla rez and I always get permission...I really enjoy the reservation towns and people...dont forget your own beer tho...

1083 freedomsound  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:17:29am

re: #751 maddogg

Re: Rosanne Barr

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life..."

- Dean Wormer

1084 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:17:38am
1085 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:18:07am

re: #1074 realwest

Is anyone else having problems getting new comments, updinging posts or anything like that?

I did. Did a reload, seems to have fixed it.

1086 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:18:11am

re: #1067 vxbush

Let's try this again....

Hello, everyone. After having a swallow study (lovely barium belly now) and a pulmonary function test done this morning, I sit here, trying to push as much water down as I can and not keel over.

May I say that I am surprised that Reid actually did not allow Burris to come in and take his chair? My opinion of Reid is that he is all bluster and little action. So the fact that Burris got the boot surprises me. It does not surprise me that Burris is now talking about legal action.

I get the feeling that in two or three years, the courts will be doing nothing but listening to challenges related to the federal government: election counts, who can be seated, who can't, FOIA claims, etc. etc. We're close to that now, with only a few cases of personal action being taken to federal courts.

I get the same feeling watching Blago. It's like a rotten tooth with it's roots wrapped around the spinal cord. And how many more rotten teeth need to be pulled? It's another problems the drafters of the Constitution evidently didn't anticipate.

1087 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:18:41am

Given the stench of corruption around all of Obama's appointments why is Gates agreeing to stay on at Defense? If this is out of a sense of duty or loyalty to the troops then I think it might be misplaced. He is overestimating his ability to control the players moving in.

1088 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:19:07am

re: #1078 Iron Fist

Automatic weapons are a hell of a lot of fun. They are also (thanks to extreme over-regulation) expensive as hell. You have to be willing (and able) to sink thousands of dollars into even the most rattle-trap POS submachinegun, plus jump through more flaming hoops than the whole Palestinian "army" to get all the paperwork necessary, in order to be legal. I don't expect that I'll ever have the disposable income to ever move in that direction.

Unless the Supreme Court throws out the unconstitutional NFA. If that happens, I'm getting a SAW.

right...Bob just didnt seem like the type...be interesting to check out some of the larger private collections

1089 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:19:13am

re: #1003 badger1970

Any proof would be appreciated. By the way, Wikipedia don't count.

Sorry to take so long to get back to you - real life intruded. here ya go

Now Maya Keyes -- liberal, lesbian and a little lost -- finds herself out on her own. She says her parents -- conservative commentator and perennial candidate Alan Keyes and his wife, Jocelyn -- threw her out of their house, refused to pay her college tuition and stopped speaking to her.

When Sexuality Undercuts A Family's Ties

1090 Karridine  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:19:13am

re: #1084 Iron Fist

Why aren't the Republicans allowed to bring in more and more and more and more and more 'absentee ballots' until THEIR candidate is 'elected'?

1091 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:19:43am
1092 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:19:47am

More here: Gaza conflict spreads to Europe with Jews attacked

1093 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:19:53am

re: #1080 yma o hyd

Heh.
It wasn't a pet goat, only a cat ..

////

Image: muslim_cat.jpg

1094 Kragar  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:20:00am

re: #1090 Karridine

Why aren't the Republicans allowed to bring in more and more and more and more and more 'absentee ballots' until THEIR candidate is 'elected'?

Honesty?

1095 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:20:28am

re: #1084 Iron Fist

I'm afraid I agree with you. This bullshit with Franken is what is really over the top. Everyone knows he's stealing the election and manufacturing votes. No one will do anything about it. There's getting to be no point at running for election at all. Just sue to be appointed to whatever post you want.

Maybe I should shoot for UN Ambassador...

Well, if I were UN ambassador, I'd want to shoot a lot of the others in the UN.
/I wouldn't actually shoot them, but I would want to. Hell, I want to now. (But I won't, don't worry. I'm not threatening anyone with violence.)

1096 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:20:40am

re: #1059 yma o hyd
Hey {yma} - what's really disgracful is that the authorities don't seem to be giving any priorities to protecting Jews, Synagogues, etc.

1097 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:20:50am

re: #1020 Iron Fist

Shouldn't everybody make $100 an hour to turn a screw? that's the union way.

$100 a screw? Prostitutes got a good union!

1098 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:21:09am

re: #1076 Nevergiveup
Thanks!

1099 Karridine  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:21:40am

re: #1094 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Honesty?

Self-respect works for me, Kragar...

1100 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:21:54am

re: #1097 TaeJohnDo

$100 a screw? Prostitutes got a good union!

So do politicians. How many times do they screw us?

1101 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:22:47am

re: #1090 Karridine

Why aren't the Republicans allowed to bring in more and more and more and more and more 'absentee ballots' until THEIR candidate is 'elected'?

Content of character?

1102 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:23:02am

re: #1085 Hobbes
Thanks Hobbes, I've had to do that reload twice already!

1103 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:23:10am

re: #1097 TaeJohnDo

$100 a screw? Prostitutes got a good union!

High class call girls go for alot more. At least that is what i hear?

1104 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:23:57am

re: #1067 vxbush

Poor thing!
Hope you don't keel over, and do get to feel better a.s.a.p.!

{vxbush}

1105 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:24:44am

Marinelli gets Bears offer; still interviewing

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

And he brings what exactly to the job?

1106 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:25:05am

re: #1064 Spare O'Lake

Don't be so sure about Egypt.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stunned visiting foreign ministers Monday when he said he wanted Israel to emerge as the winner in the current conflict in Gaza.
The European foreign ministers, headed by Karel Schwarzenberg of the Czech Republic, whose country currently holds the European Union's rotating presidency, met with Mubarak in Cairo before travelling on to Jerusalem.

The ministers met with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni after arriving in Jerusalem and briefed her on their discussions with the Egyptian president.

It was at that meeting that ministers confided that Mubarak had told them 'Hamas must not be allowed to emerge from the fighting with the upper hand.'

1107 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:25:09am

Pre-lunch quick post: More good news! China building up is naval force, looking to buy or build carriers.

Just wonderful.

1108 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:25:45am

re: #1090 Karridine

Why aren't the Republicans allowed to bring in more and more and more and more and more 'absentee ballots' until THEIR candidate is 'elected'?

because we're better than them?
sheeeesh.
but franken is a beast, fighting dirty, like a terrorist.
and coleman is following proper procedure.

1109 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:25:54am

its naval force

PIMF

1110 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:25:56am

Conflicting reports on incident in Gaza:

U.N. official: 30 dead after Israeli strike near school

Three Israeli artillery shells struck near the perimeter of a U.N. school in northern Gaza on Tuesday, killing at least 30 people and wounding 55, a United Nations official said.

U.N. Relief and Works Agency Director John Ging said most of the casualties were outside the school in the Jabalya refugee camp.

"It's a very built-up area, so of course it was entirely inevitable that if artillery shells landed in that area there would be a high number of casualties," he said at a U.N. briefing from Gaza City.

But a report from Ian Deitch for AP, tells a different story:

Palestinians say Israeli raids near school kill 34

Palestinian medics said 34 people were killed in an Israeli strike outside a U.N. school in the northern Gaza town of Jebaliya. The United Nations confirmed 30 were killed and 55 injured.

An Israeli official says Palestinian militants fired on Israeli soldiers from the courtyard of a U.N. school where dozens of people died in fiery explosions.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he said the army is still drafting the country's official response to the incident.

The Israeli official said "hostile fire" was directed at the soldiers from within the school. He said soldiers returned fire and multiple explosions went off, presumably emanating from munitions stored there.

John Ging, head of Gaza operations for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, said most of the casualties at the U.N. school in Jebaliya, where some 350 people had taken refuge, were outside the building. He did not say whether the artillery came from Israeli forces.

"Fiery explosions" sounds more like the secondary explosions of stored munitions. Artillery & missiles have high blast, low fire explosions.

1111 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:26:14am

re: #1093 Dustyvet

[Link: www.moremuslimthanobama.com...]

Image: bo.jpg

1112 Kragar  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:27:01am

Palestinians mix doubt with pride at Gaza rockets

For Palestinians hunkered down under Israeli fire in the Gaza Strip, among the most powerful symbols of the conflict are the home-made rockets militants have fired at Israel, and which Israel says it is now determined to stop.

Nicknamed Qassams -- in reference to an Islamist fighter of the 1930s -- more than 4,000 have been fired since 2001, killing 18 people in Israel before last month's Israeli offensive. Four more have died in rocket fire since December 27.

While there is pride among Gazans that militants are able to strike 40 km (25 miles) into Israel with home-made weapons, there is concern that the tactic has prompted far more death and destruction through Israeli retaliation than it has wrought.

1113 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:27:08am

re: #1059 yma o hyd

Disgusting - shameful - horrendous:
Gaza conflict fuels anti-Semitic attacks across Europe

Years of uncontrolled immigration of islamists, years of propaganda by pro-palestinian groups, spread by moonbats and socialists, are visibly bearing fruit.


Kill Jewish children anywhere in the world? Ain't no man of God.
All mosques in the West should be monitered & Imam's that promote this stuff should be prosecuted and/or deported.

1114 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:27:54am

re: #1086 Salem

I agree. I wish someone in Congress would have the courage to push for a national "drop-dead" policy for elections to Fed. office. The current situation of allowing the same people who screwed up (improper dismissal of votes, double votes, etc.) the election to dilly-dally for months while they shuffle paper until they get the result they want is a sham and a disgrace.
There should be a hard and fast deadline after which a Fed. agency takes over the process.

1115 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:27:56am

re: #1081 buzzsawmonkey

Note as well that this Hamas spokesman has left the cat finally out of the bag.
Their aim is to kill Jews, anywhere - its not about 'Freedom for Gaza' at all:

It is about killing Jews, nothing else.

But will the moonbats, like Annie Lennox et al, actually get this into their one braincell?
Will they heck!

1116 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:28:12am

re: #1102 realwest

Thanks Hobbes, I've had to do that reload twice already!

Spooky! Have you done anything to offend Charles? Ha,ha.

1117 bellamags  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:28:20am

re: #1084 Iron Fist

I'm afraid I agree with you. This bullshit with Franken is what is really over the top. Everyone knows he's stealing the election and manufacturing votes. No one will do anything about it. There's getting to be no point at running for election at all. Just sue to be appointed to whatever post you want.

Maybe I should shoot for UN Ambassador...

I was just talking to my dad last night about this. Liberals act like a bunch of unruly children, looking to see what they can get away with. ACORN, The Franken mess and other BS. The thing that pisses me of the most is the republicans refusal to get MAD and do anything about it. Kids will run all over parents if there is no consequence for their bad behavior. Same thing with liberals.

1118 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:28:29am

re: #1106 wahabicorridor

Don't be so sure about Egypt.
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stunned visiting foreign ministers Monday when he said he wanted Israel to emerge as the winner in the current conflict in Gaza.

Of course. Hamas is related to the Muslim Brotherhood, who want to rule Egypt. If Hamas wins, the Brotherhood is strengthened; if it loses, they are weakened.

1119 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:29:25am
1120 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:30:57am

re: #1118 Kosh's Shadow

Of course. Hamas is related to the Muslim Brotherhood, who want to rule Egypt. If Hamas wins, the Brotherhood is strengthened; if it loses, they are weakened.

Egypt just wants a quiet Gaza so they can continue to ignore it and the people in it.

1121 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:31:00am

re: #1103 Nevergiveup

High class call girls go for alot more. At least that is what i hear?


Usually paid for by someone else's money. Politics and Prostitution goes hand in hand.

1122 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:31:33am

re: #1119 Iron Fist

That is a good question. I don't really have an answer. The Republicans won't fight if it means getting down into the mud. The Democrats have no such reservations. I think back to the 2000 election, where Gore had thousands of military votes cast out while he was screaming "Let every vote count". The hypocracy is so dense it is in danger of collapsing into a black hole of color, and the Republicans let him get away with it.

There's no real excuse for it. The Republican Party has failed its members, its candidates, and the Union as a whole. It may be too late to turn things around. Obama takes office in what, fourteen days?

And then the Republican party will be illegal.

1123 Wishing  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:31:39am

It seems to me that the failure is across the aisle: both Dems and Reps have failed the American people for one reason: greed. I just can
it get it any plainer than that.

1124 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:32:00am

re: #1089 wahabicorridor
Hey {wahabi} - I note from your link about his daughter that she said (after he lost the election to Obama): Still, when I asked Maya whether she is glad her father lost the election, she stopped short. "Should you really be asking that question? I mean, I suppose there is a conflict, but I'm not sure I wanted him to lose. I disagree with nearly all his views, but he's very honest and has a lot of integrity."
While I personally regret and am sorry for the family's situation, that doesn't sound as if she's knocking him. And of course, she wanted to be a political activist who disagreed with everything he believes in politically - I honestly don't see that as much of an indictment of Keyes as a politician.
And frankly, if Ronnie thought enough of him to make him an Ambassador, I think that gives him more props than this family situation.

1125 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:32:14am

re: #1118 Kosh's Shadow

Of course. Hamas is related to the Muslim Brotherhood, who want to rule Egypt. If Hamas wins, the Brotherhood is strengthened; if it loses, they are weakened.

I know. I keep telling people running around yelping about how this is just going to create more jihadis that they had better start looking at the dogs that AREN'T barking.

Like Hezbollah. And Egypt. And Syria.

You get the idea.

1126 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:32:14am

re: #1096 realwest

Hey {yma} - what's really disgracful is that the authorities don't seem to be giving any priorities to protecting Jews, Synagogues, etc.

Indeed.
Its because said authorities, being oh so politically correct, have swallowed the Arab/Hamas propaganda as well.
They don't get it that when said Arabs talk about 'ending the occupation', they aren't speaking about Gaza, they are speaking about Israel in toto.

And they've accepted now that islamist anger is somehow 'righteous' ...

*spit*

1127 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:32:32am

re: #1083 freedomsound

Re: Rosanne Barr

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life..."

- Dean Wormer


And she's a self-loathing Jew.

1128 Wishing  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:32:38am

re: #1123 Wishing

It seems to me that the failure is across the aisle: both Dems and Reps have failed the American people for one reason: greed. I just can
it get it any plainer than that.

PIMF: I just can't get it any plainer than that.

1129 realwest  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:33:04am

re: #1100 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt! Yeah and the politicians charge SO much more!

1130 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:33:37am

re: #1119 Iron Fist

That is a good question. I don't really have an answer. The Republicans won't fight if it means getting down into the mud. The Democrats have no such reservations. I think back to the 2000 election, where Gore had thousands of military votes cast out while he was screaming "Let every vote count". The hypocracy is so dense it is in danger of collapsing into a black hole of color, and the Republicans let him get away with it.

There's no real excuse for it. The Republican Party has failed its members, its candidates, and the Union as a whole. It may be too late to turn things around. Obama takes office in what, fourteen days?

I think I heard something like this from George Will -- Democrats believe in Government with a passion and will do anything for it. Republicans feel Government is a necessary evil and only do the minimum they can tolerate.

1131 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:34:32am

re: #1107 Occasional Reader

Pre-lunch quick post: More good news! China building up is naval force, looking to buy or build carriers.

Just wonderful.

Old news... China has a mothballed carrier that it never could quite figure out how to make operational.

It's a rehash of old stories. One has to wonder if China has the money to make it happen, given that they're in even more dire straits than the US (and yes, I'm awaiting the inevitable money for nothing quip).

1132 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:34:54am
1133 wahabicorridor  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:35:21am

re: #1124 realwest

Hi there real!

I agree he's honest. But I don't hold with parents abandoning their children except under the most extreme (e.g. criminal) circumstances.

1134 bellamags  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:35:24am

re: #1130 TaeJohnDo

I think I heard something like this from George Will -- Democrats believe in Government with a passion and will do anything for it. Republicans feel Government is a necessary evil and only do the minimum they can tolerate.

You cannot change what you can tolerate.

1135 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:35:44am

re: #1113 opnion

I hope this opens they eyes of some to what Hamas' real goals are: kill all Jews, anywhere in the world.

I keep repeating meself when i comment on this and various other reports in those UK papers;
Condone Hamas and you condone a second Holocaust.

Not that any of my comments have seen the light of day ...

1136 bellamags  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:36:09am

re: #1132 Iron Fist

With call girls, much as with any other aspect of life, you usually get what you pay for. Which is why I've never been able to figure out John Kerry. He is, without doubt, one of the highest paid whores in the world, but for what? The son of a bitch looks like Herman Munster after a three day bender. All I can figure is that he's great in the sack, 'cause he sure ain't getting paid to be pretty.

GROSS.. totally not rideable.

1137 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:37:08am

Burris got turned away in DC by a Dem congress
If it was Republicans they would have been arrested

1138 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:37:15am
1139 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:37:16am

re: #1115 yma o hyd

Note as well that this Hamas spokesman has left the cat finally out of the bag.
Their aim is to kill Jews, anywhere - its not about 'Freedom for Gaza' at all:

It is about killing Jews, nothing else.

But will the moonbats, like Annie Lennox et al, actually get this into their one braincell?
Will they heck!

no, they won't.
for them to accept this truth, means they must also accept that they themselves are powerless nobodies and can not, in fact, solve global
problems of this magnitude. it's abt. them. they want to feel important.
that's better than actually thinking and looking at facts.
idiots.

1140 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:37:50am

re: #1119 Iron Fist

That is a good question. I don't really have an answer. The Republicans won't fight if it means getting down into the mud. The Democrats have no such reservations. I think back to the 2000 election, where Gore had thousands of military votes cast out while he was screaming "Let every vote count". The hypocracy is so dense it is in danger of collapsing into a black hole of color, and the Republicans let him get away with it.

There's no real excuse for it. The Republican Party has failed its members, its candidates, and the Union as a whole. It may be too late to turn things around. Obama takes office in what, fourteen days?

agreed...here comes the govt doing whatever the hell it wants...it is already out of control...I am very pessimistic

1141 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:39:00am
1142 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:39:15am

re: #1132 Iron Fist

With call girls, much as with any other aspect of life, you usually get what you pay for. Which is why I've never been able to figure out John Kerry. He is, without doubt, one of the highest paid whores in the world, but for what? The son of a bitch looks like Herman Munster after a three day bender. All I can figure is that he's great in the sack, 'cause he sure ain't getting paid to be pretty.


Could be that 11inch tounge ?

1143 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:39:22am

re: #1135 yma o hyd

I hope this opens they eyes of some to what Hamas' real goals are: kill all Jews, anywhere in the world.

I keep repeating meself when i comment on this and various other reports in those UK papers;
Condone Hamas and you condone a second Holocaust.

Not that any of my comments have seen the light of day ...

What I think is that the sympathy for Hamas is that they are brown people without nukes. That makes them victims.
Israel is a Western style democracy with nukes & other stuff, therefore the are the oppressive villain.

1144 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:39:40am

re: #1127 opnion

And she's a self-loathing Jew.

1/2 jewish

1145 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:39:48am

re: #1041 buzzsawmonkey

Can somebody remind me what it was that Norm Coleman did, and when, a few years ago when he stood up to some terrorist or something?

I remember he did something extremely creditable, and it's bugging the heck out of me that I can't remember what it was.

* * *
Hi Buzz, Sen. Norm Coleman stood up to/debated in our Congress Saddam's buddy Gorgeous George the British Scottish MP married to a moslem woman who shilled for Saddam Hussein and took Oil for Food Scandal chits as payment for shilling. Pay to play the Hussein way.

1146 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:40:22am

re: #1142 ThinkRight

Could be that 11inch FORKEDtounge ?

Added a little, hope you don't mind.

1147 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:40:40am

re: #1119 Iron Fist

I'm in a conspiracy mood today...Do you think all the blatant cheating is a way to completely destroy out process of elections?

1148 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:40:41am
1149 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:40:54am

re: #1146 TaeJohnDo

Cool

1150 Salem  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:41:11am

re: #1084 Iron Fist

I'm afraid I agree with you. This bullshit with Franken is what is really over the top. Everyone knows he's stealing the election and manufacturing votes. No one will do anything about it. There's getting to be no point at running for election at all. Just sue to be appointed to whatever post you want.

Maybe I should shoot for UN Ambassador...

Elections are such a bother. That time, tax-money and effort would be better spent constructing new unsustainable bureaucracies and writing 8,000 page laws.

1151 opnion  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:41:14am

re: #1144 Nevergiveup

1/2 jewish


I didn't know that. So she loathes half of herself. Plenty left.

1152 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:41:59am
1153 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:42:25am

re: #1147 Hobbes

I'm in a conspiracy mood today...Do you think all the blatant cheating is a way to completely destroy out process of elections?

of course altho the process only has to be compromised to a certain extent...it's working already but I doubt it could with out the help from the MSM

1154 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:42:59am

re: #1123 Wishing

It seems to me that the failure is across the aisle: both Dems and Reps have failed the American people for one reason: greed. I just can
it get it any plainer than that.

Pretty sure most pols have their other foot in a bucket of fear.

1155 turn  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:43:01am

re: #1123 Wishing

It seems to me that the failure is across the aisle: both Dems and Reps have failed the American people for one reason: greed. I just can
it get it any plainer than that.

It has to go deeper than that I believe because congressmen already have considerable wealth. This site was linked here awhile back and it kind of opened up my eyes.

[Link: www.opensecrets.org...]

These people already have millions and surely could leverage that to make even more money outside of office without the headaches of serving. It must also be a power and prestige thing, but with the way their approval ratings are sucking it must just be the power thing.

1156 bellamags  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:43:06am

re: #1152 Iron Fist

There will be no substantive check on the Democrats power during the next two years. Even if the narrowly divided Supreme Court decides to take a hand in reigning them in, it'll take that long just to get the cases through the Court system for the Supremes to be able to rule on it.

Conjures up images of Chuck E Cheese on free token day.

1157 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:44:35am

re: #1147 Hobbes

I'm in a conspiracy mood today...Do you think all the blatant cheating is a way to completely destroy out process of elections?

Many politicians think they know what is best for us, and by "tweaking" the results they are only doing what is best for the poor folks who just don't know any better.

Eventually, many would feel there is no need for an election, except to fill in the square.


Of course, some are just power-hungry control freak greedy bastards, too.

1158 albusteve  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:45:08am

re: #1152 Iron Fist

There will be no substantive check on the Democrats power during the next two years. Even if the narrowly divided Supreme Court decides to take a hand in reigning them in, it'll take that long just to get the cases through the Court system for the Supremes to be able to rule on it.

look what Pelosi is pushing in Congress...the Senatorial auctions...Oboy the wonder guy...a stacked SC and the whole thing goes into the tank...these are dangerous times

1159 TaeJohnDo  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:45:14am

re: #1154 AuntAcid

Pretty sure most pols have their other foot in a bucket of fear.


And the other foot in a bucket of sh!t.

1160 alegrias  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:51:38am

re: #1133 wahabicorridor

Hi there real!

I agree he's honest. But I don't hold with parents abandoning their children except under the most extreme (e.g. criminal) circumstances.

* * *
Hi Ms. W. Corridor.

Without caring about the details surrounding Keyes' disagreement with his daughter, I must say:

I don't consider a parent "refusing to pay college tuition" tantamount to abandoning your adult "children".

I think parents whose adult or teen children engage in dangerous or risky behavior are free to say to those children, "if you continue down that path which is contrary to our beliefs and practices, you are not welcome in our home".

Parents also have rights and I respect parents who can tell their grown children to live with the consequences of their own choices and actions.

1161 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:54:57am

Only on a pirate ship would you find more skulduggery than in Washington politics. I imagine there is more booze and more Pepto consumed per capita in DC than anywhere else. Every day is "walk the plank day".

1162 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:54:58am
1163 vxbush  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:57:32am

re: #1104 yma o hyd

Poor thing!
Hope you don't keel over, and do get to feel better a.s.a.p.!

{vxbush}

Thanks, dahling. Work is keeping me occupied, so I'm not thinking about it as much now.

1164 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:59:13am

re: #1162 Iron Fist

As usual, you got it right.

1165 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 10:01:10am

re: #1161 AuntAcid

Only on a pirate ship would you find more skulduggery than in Washington politics. I imagine there is more booze and more Pepto consumed per capita in DC than anywhere else. Every day is "walk the plank day".

"I sink a few more ships, it's true, than a well-bred monarch ought to do
But many a king on a first-class throne
Must manage somehow to get through
More dirty work than e'er I do
For I am a Pirate King
And it is, it is a glorious thing'
To be a pirate king.

-- Gilbert and Sullivan

1166 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 10:17:19am

re: #1106 wahabicorridor

Mubarak, whose country patrols the border with Egypt, was insisting Monday there was no smuggling, that supplies to Hamas were coming from ships off Gaza.

Don't make me laugh.

1167 redstateredneck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 10:31:59am

Anybody seen MidwestGak? It's her turn at scrabble.


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