1 coquimbojoe  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:28:04pm

What will the new week bring?

2 Sharmuta  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:28:34pm

My favorite mythical creature? The honest politician.

3 Truck Monkey  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:29:47pm

And I still want my unicorn!

4 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:31:20pm

Am I the only one who noticed Ben Rothlisberger looked like he's taken too many cruises on the gravy boat?

5 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:31:40pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

My favorite mythical creature? The honest politician.

I heard about that beast. I think there's more chances of finding the Loch Ness monster than one of those.

6 gmsc  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:32:48pm

My favorite link of the day was posted earlier by jcm: Obama's going to make all of us rich!

That's too funny! She reminds me of the now-infamous Peggy Joseph:

7 Moonbat Serenade  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:33:01pm

MMMMMMMMMMM

I love that new topic smell.

8 capitalist piglet  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:34:38pm

re: #6 gmsc

My favorite link of the day was posted earlier by jcm: Obama's going to make all of us rich!

That's too funny! She reminds me of the now-infamous Peggy Joseph:

A local talk show host in Seattle has been playing that one. That woman is in for some kind of rude awakening. I hope she's not running up her credit cards on top of it.

9 Karridine  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:34:45pm
"Morality has nothing in common with politics." Bob Zimmerman

Well, I guess that's why I choose to support, study and advance a system of collective decision-making that DOES have a lot of moral, decent and rational components in it. :D

10 Abu Al-Poopypants  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:35:39pm

If Chris Dodd sees his shadow today, it means 6 more weeks of him not releasing his Countrywide documents.

11 Cygnus  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:36:48pm

Steelers win....again.
*SIGH*
Well, we can't blame the referees this time, I guess.
The Seahawks got SCREWED in 2006!

12 Syrah  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:37:23pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

My favorite mythical creature? The honest politician.

Hi Sharm,

I have just spent the evening with a most amazing little wine. A 1995 Woodbridge Portacinco.

Wonderful.

A very happy taste of paradise. Strongly suggestive of plums. A delight.

Contentment.

It goes very well with chocolate too.

If I could, I would share it all around.

It is a blessing to be alive.

13 Karridine  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:37:34pm

re: #8 capitalist piglet

"Obama's gonna help me pay my mortgage..."

Wow! You... and me, and her and them and all us Americans... Obama's gonna help us ALL...

/uhm, where's he gonna find the MONEY to help us all?

14 Edouard  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:37:38pm

Speaking of Bob Dylan, here's one of his lyrics, which I dedicate to the fellow whose desk is currently in the Oval Office.

Nothing Was Delivered

Nothing was delivered
And I tell this truth to you,
Not out of spite or anger
But simply because it's true.
Now, I hope you won't object to this,
Giving back all of what you owe,
The fewer words you have to waste on this,
The sooner you can go.

Nothing is better, nothing is best,
Take heed of this and get plenty of rest.

Nothing was delivered
But I can't say I sympathize
With what your fate is going to be,
Yes, for telling all those lies.
Now you must provide some answers
For what you sell has not been received,
And the sooner you come up with them,
The sooner you can leave.

Nothing is better, nothing is best,
Take heed of this and get plenty rest.

Nothing was delivered
And it's up to you to say
Just what you had in mind
When you made ev'rybody pay.
No, nothing was delivered,
Yes, 'n' someone must explain
That as long as it takes to do this
Then that's how long that you'll remain.

Nothing is better, nothing is best,
Take heed of this and get plenty rest.

15 Abu Al-Poopypants  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:37:46pm

I didn't have a dog in this hunt, but I thought that a lot of the penalties against the Cardinals were pretty iffy.

16 Sharmuta  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:39:18pm

re: #12 Syrah

If there is some left, then have a glass for me. I was blessed with some very good news tonight, and had none to toast my fortune.

17 Cygnus  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:40:23pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

If there is some left, then have a glass for me. I was blessed with some very good news tonight, and had none to toast my fortune.

So what's your good news?

18 capitalist piglet  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:41:57pm

re: #13 Karridine

Wow! You... and me, and her and them and all us Americans... Obama's gonna help us ALL...

/uhm, where's he gonna find the MONEY to help us all?

That's the trillion-dollar question.

Another cool thing they're doing around here - we pay nearly 10% on the dollar in sales tax, because we don't have a state income tax. So guess what. Times are tough, so they're talking in Olympia about imposing one.

Another thing they're talking about is toll roads everywhere, because apparently, the nine-cents per gallon additional gas tax they recently imposed (for road projects) isn't enough.

Oh, and they're talking about a bailout for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer (the extreme left newspaper), too. That's right - government money, taxpayer money, to fund a leftist newspaper.

It's beautiful here, but I'm about done.

19 Sharmuta  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:42:14pm

re: #17 Cygnus

It's not complete yet, and I'd rather not say and jinx it. But a very positive development.

20 Syrah  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:43:51pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

If there is some left, then have a glass for me. I was blessed with some very good news tonight, and had none to toast my fortune.

Then lets all raise a glass to Sharmuta!

May The Good Lord bless her and keep her whole.

May The Good Lord bless all of us and keep us safe.

To Sharm and her good fortune!

Clinks of goblets and tankards around the halls of Lizard Valhalla.

Huzza!

21 Syrah  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:44:53pm

re: #20 Syrah

And break a leg if I did that wrong, . . .

22 capitalist piglet  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:45:14pm

Bottled water just doesn't clink. More like a thud.

23 BakaRanger  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:45:44pm

Another cool thing they're doing around here - we pay nearly 10% on the dollar in sales tax, because we don't have a state income tax. So guess what. Times are tough, so they're talking in Olympia about imposing one.


I live in WA as well, what do you think the chances that this will pass? I know in OR a sales tax is proposed every so often and it gets shot down.

24 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:45:50pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Outstanding! Its always great to hear about good things happening to good people.

25 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:46:26pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

The best sparkling wine I've ever tasted.

Raise a glass for me.
(I exceeded my quota decades ago..........)

26 Sharmuta  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:46:55pm

re: #20 Syrah

{Syrah} Thank you, that's so kind.

27 gmsc  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:47:10pm

re: #13 Karridine

Wow! You... and me, and her and them and all us Americans... Obama's gonna help us ALL...

/uhm, where's he gonna find the MONEY to help us all?

Well, the only truly effective way to create wealth is via capitalism, so all 0bama has to do is . . .

. . . oh, yeah, I see the problem now.

28 Sharmuta  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:47:30pm

re: #24 MrPaulRevere

Thanks!

29 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:49:19pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Hey good news is always welcome around here. May it all pan out.

/raises coffee mug in a toast.

30 gmsc  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:50:30pm

re: #28 Sharmuta

Thanks!

Updings just for having even potential good news!

31 gmsc  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:51:12pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

It's not complete yet, and I'd rather not say and jinx it. But a very positive development.

0bama made you rich?

/////

32 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:53:15pm

Good evening, lizards. Just ending a great day and two superbowl parties. I just feel blessed to have great friends. The second party was just a couple of friends who have been depressed and having serious health problems and picked us as the ones to cheer them up. We had a great time.

33 Sharmuta  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:54:57pm

re: #29 BlueCanuck

re: #30 gmsc

Thanks, Gents.


re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm glad you had a nice evening.

34 Moonbat Serenade  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:55:10pm

I went to the dealer today, looked at a brand new Dodge Challenger. Almost $55K- that included a 10K dealer "just cause we can" markup. What really shocked me was the $1300 fuel guzzler tax listed on the factory sticker.

35 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:56:42pm

re: #33 Sharmuta

Glad to hear that you might have something good coming."Break a leg."

36 capitalist piglet  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:57:59pm

re: #23 BakaRanger


I live in WA as well, what do you think the chances that this will pass? I know in OR a sales tax is proposed every so often and it gets shot down.

I can't say. I just don't know. Maybe they would realize how it would play when people are struggling, but Democrats just seem to think their need for cash trumps ours. Layoffs everywhere, businesses failing - but this is no crisis, for them...it's an opportunity.

Are you in the metro area, or out where people are sane? (Please don't feel obligated to say if that's more than you want to disclose.)

I heard someone say the other day that they will deliberately put priority funding on non-essential services, so that when they come to the public for more money, they'll say we have to give it up if we want police, for example.

Have I mentioned I hate Democrats?

37 gmsc  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:59:24pm

For those who missed it the first time around: Here's the 3-D Super Bowl tribute to Lizards (link goes to much higher quality version):

38 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 1, 2009 11:59:41pm

re: #11 Cygnus

Steelers win....again.
*SIGH*
Well, we can't blame the referees this time, I guess.
The Seahawks got SCREWED in 2006!

you must have watched a different game than we did.....

crap officiating: the Stupor Bowl is right up there with 'rasslin from now on in our house.

and since we can get the commercials on line, next year we're gonna go enjoy the day with no people out.

/bite me NFL.

39 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:00:03am

You know what's weird about February 2?

The sun sets in the same place on the horizon on that day as it does on November 11.

11/11 = 2/2

1+1+1+1 = 4
2+2=4

I noticed that long ago as a kid when I saw that the sun set directly behind a distinctive landmark as seen from my window one year on November 11; and then I noticed it did the same thing on February 2 the following year.

I thought it numerically bizarre that 11/11 and 2/2 were arithmetic mirror images of each other on our solar calendar, but as far as I've ever been able to figure, its just a bizarre random coincidence. A fluke.

It you don't believe me, and have a year to spare, you can check it out yourself next time: stand in a memorable unique spot on Nov. 11, and note carefully where the sun sets. Then make sure to stand in the exact same place the following Feb. 2. The sun will set precisely in the same spot.

It would make more sense if November 11 was exactly as far from the solstice as was February 2, but Nov. 11 is 41 days before Dec. 21, and Feb. 2 is 43 days after Dec. 21.

Strange. It should be 42 days/42 days. Not sure why there is an offset -- perhaps something to do with the solstice falling on the night of the 21nd or something? Or maybe an astronomer can explain why the location of the sun 41 days before the solstice is the same as 43 days after.

40 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:00:30am

Heh. Timed that one pretty good.

41 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:00:50am

re: #35 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks!

42 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:03:30am

re: #39 zombie

Darn, going to have to wait a year to check this out here up north. But I think it may have something to do with the elliptical orbit we follow around the sun.

43 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:06:05am

re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good evening, lizards. Just ending a great day and two superbowl parties. I just feel blessed to have great friends. The second party was just a couple of friends who have been depressed and having serious health problems and picked us as the ones to cheer them up. We had a great time.

The Superbowl was today? Wow, I totally didn't even know that. Shows how disconnected from mainstream culture I really am. In retrospect, I thought I heard out-of-the-ordinary merry-making from a neighbor's place, but didn't make the connection until just now that it must have been a football party.

Well, I presume a team won. Good for them. Whoever they were.

44 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:06:52am

re: #43 zombie

Well, I presume a team won.

Actually, no. This was the most unusual Super Bowl in history . . .
;)

45 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:07:56am

re: #42 BlueCanuck

Darn, going to have to wait a year to check this out here up north. But I think it may have something to do with the elliptical orbit we follow around the sun.

yup.... it's not an even path, so the match ups will not be symmetric.

46 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:09:06am

re: #44 gmsc

Actually, no. This was the most unusual Super Bowl in history . . .
;)

Don't make me go check an MSM news site. That would be torture. I'll just presume there's a "/sarc" tag on that.

Having no knowledge of current affairs (outside of what is posted on LGF) is nirvana.

47 logboy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:09:39am

re: #39 zombie

I know where the sun sets in mid July. Right now thats all I care about.

//I'm gonna kick Al Gore's global warming little ass.

48 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:09:56am

re: #45 redc1c4

yup.... it's not an even path, so the match ups will not be symmetric.

Ah, there ya go. Been scratching my head over that one since I was about 10 years old.

49 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:10:44am

re: #46 zombie

Don't make me go check an MSM news site. That would be torture. I'll just presume there's a "/sarc" tag on that.

Having no knowledge of current affairs (outside of what is posted on LGF) is nirvana.

Yes on the /sarc tag. For that matter, no current afair knowledge outside of LGF must indeed be nirvana.

50 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:11:22am

re: #43 zombie

The Superbowl was today? Wow, I totally didn't even know that. Shows how disconnected from mainstream culture I really am. In retrospect, I thought I heard out-of-the-ordinary merry-making from a neighbor's place, but didn't make the connection until just now that it must have been a football party.

Well, I presume a team won. Good for them. Whoever they were.

If it were not for invitations we would have probably forgotten as well. LOL Boring game until the very end but we had the good friends.

Last night was a different story. We were in a sea of liberals and I told somebody what I thought about the gal with the 14 artificially inseminated offspring and they were so all over us I thought we'd have to run for our lives. LOL

51 BakaRanger  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:11:38am

re: #23 BakaRanger


I live in WA as well, what do you think the chances that this will pass? I know in OR a sales tax is proposed every so often and it gets shot down.

I can't say. I just don't know. Maybe they would realize how it would play when people are struggling, but Democrats just seem to think their need for cash trumps ours. Layoffs everywhere, businesses failing - but this is no crisis, for them...it's an opportunity.

Are you in the metro area, or out where people are sane? (Please don't feel obligated to say if that's more than you want to disclose.)

I heard someone say the other day that they will deliberately put priority funding on non-essential services, so that when they come to the public for more money, they'll say we have to give it up if we want police, for example.

Have I mentioned I hate Democrats?


I am down in the Vancouver area, you know, the funding conduit for Seattle projects.

Threatening funding for essential services is the oldest trick in the book, but it seem to work well. They want to put up a new bridge on the I-5 corridor, six lanes coming and going. You know property taxes will no doubt go up. I pulled this off the Clark County news website.

"Hot on the heels of Governor Gregoire’s campaign promise of “she” wouldn’t raise taxes, Sen. Rosa Franklin, (D-Tacoma) has introduced Senate Joint Resolution 8205, Amending the Constitution to allow an income tax.

It is a companion Bill to SB 5104, deceptively described as “Providing fiscal reform.”

Text of both bills SB 5104 and SJR 8205

Although we were assured throughout the 2008 campaign that Governor Gregoire is against an Income Tax, looking at her words from the past shows that she is merely opposed to it “at this time,” when she was making the comment."

Yeah, I really hate Democrats as well...

52 logboy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:13:01am

re: #46 zombie

Don't make me go check an MSM news site. That would be torture. I'll just presume there's a "/sarc" tag on that.

Having no knowledge of current affairs (outside of what is posted on LGF) is nirvana.

As I person who has been through that for more than a year straight (deployment), I can assure you the celebration is bitter sweet. I still find myself being confronted with news happenings/world events that I do not recall, only to find out they happened when I was gone. Its hard to play catch-up when you miss out on everything.

53 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:14:00am

re: #14 Edouard

I'm not familiar with that. My all-time favorite Dylan line is "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". The name "Weatherman", inspired by Dylan,and corrupted, lead to the terrorist group the weather underground, and Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn. The One is unfamiliar with Dylan.

54 Syrah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:14:58am

re: #39 zombie

Analemma.

I have had far too much wine tonight to think very deeply about this, but I think that what you are describing is explained by the Analemma.

55 Cheechako  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:15:08am

re: #39 zombie

Round here the sun rises in the SSE, barely gets above the horizon, and sets in the SSW in December and rises in the NNE, makes a big circle in the sky, then sets in the NNW in June.

In the summer it's hard to figure where North is in the middle of the day.

56 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:15:35am

re: #52 logboy

Bin der, don that. About the only news I was up to date on was international. For some reason when I was deployed to Cyprus, the only American newspaper we would get was "Stars and Stripes". The strange part about that was there were no American soldiers in our area or on deployment there.

57 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:18:12am

re: #52 logboy

As I person who has been through that for more than a year straight (deployment), I can assure you the celebration is bitter sweet. I still find myself being confronted with news happenings/world events that I do not recall, only to find out they happened when I was gone. Its hard to play catch-up when you miss out on everything.

That's pretty much how I feel about the entire decade of the '90s. The whole thing was a blank to me, and remains so.

I didn't really start paying attention to the news until 9/11.

I went through a "devour the news" phase for several years after that, but I have now retreated to my original anti-MSM stance.

58 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:18:20am

re: #48 zombie

Ah, there ya go. Been scratching my head over that one since I was about 10 years old.

to make it even better, as i understand it, the match ups will vary depending where you are on the globe......

59 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:20:28am

re: #50 Pvt Bin Jammin

If it were not for invitations we would have probably forgotten as well. LOL Boring game until the very end but we had the good friends.

Last night was a different story. We were in a sea of liberals and I told somebody what I thought about the gal with the 14 artificially inseminated offspring and they were so all over us I thought we'd have to run for our lives. LOL

i never have that problem........

/the resident busybodies invited a cop to this weeks meeting, just to intimidate me..... FAIL!

60 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:20:58am

Now up for sale on eBay: Jenny's phone number in the 201 area code!

That's right, for just thousands of dollars, you too can be annoyed day and night by people calling for Jenny!

61 allbusiness  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:21:29am

The Stealers steal another one.

I am from Bellingham, WA - for all you other WA people here - it is the worst. Hippies and college students, all full of hopenchange, abound.

62 logboy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:21:31am

re: #56 BlueCanuck

Bin der, don that. About the only news I was up to date on was international. For some reason when I was deployed to Cyprus, the only American newspaper we would get was "Stars and Stripes". The strange part about that was there were no American soldiers in our area or on deployment there.

S&S isn't too bad, considering. We didn't get that though. Apparently Achmed the paper boy got lost in the desert somewhere between Nasiriyah and Basrah.

63 RightKlik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:22:08am

Machiavelli lives!

64 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:23:00am

re: #54 Syrah

Analemma.

I have had far too much wine tonight to think very deeply about this, but I think that what you are describing is explained by the Analemma.

Nice! Great explanation.

And I thought the dictionary was out of new words for me to learn.

Thanks. Now I'll add that one to the ol' memory banks.

To make room for it, I shall now forget the meaning of "crepuscular."

65 Syrah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:23:55am

re: #63 RightKlik

Machiavelli lives!

If you understand Machiavelli, then you have to understand the folly of blaming Hitler and the (spit) Eugenicist on Darwin.

66 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:24:00am

re: #57 zombie

That's pretty much how I feel about the entire decade of the '90s. The whole thing was a blank to me, and remains so.

I didn't really start paying attention to the news until 9/11.

I went through a "devour the news" phase for several years after that, but I have now retreated to my original anti-MSM stance.

and either way, you have no real idea what's going on......

/fuck the MSM

67 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:26:31am

re: #59 redc1c4

i never have that problem........

/the resident busybodies invited a cop to this weeks meeting, just to intimidate me..... FAIL!

That's hilarious. I love when cops or military guys just happen to get in the middle of discussions like that. LOL We didn't have any backers last night, unfortunately. I'm still not clear what their beef was, whether they thought we disapproved of single mothers, welfare recipients or just having that many babies. It was just kinda like how dare we judge this woman.

68 logboy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:26:38am

re: #57 zombie

That's pretty much how I feel about the entire decade of the '90s. The whole thing was a blank to me, and remains so.

I didn't really start paying attention to the news until 9/11.

I went through a "devour the news" phase for several years after that, but I have now retreated to my original anti-MSM stance.

I get a lot of news from blogs nowadays. I refuse to watch the MSM. You didn't miss much in the 90s. Saddam invaded Kuwait and Clinton got a blowjob in the Oval office. Thats about it.

69 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:27:21am

re: #68 logboy

I get a lot of news from blogs nowadays. I refuse to watch the MSM. You didn't miss much in the 90s. Saddam invaded Kuwait and Clinton got a blowjob in the Oval office. Thats about it.

Don't forget the Republican Stampede in the 1994 Congressional election!

70 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:27:51am

this one's for the Citizens of Kentucky.

71 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:28:10am

re: #18 capitalist piglet

I should introduce you to my Washington friend, Captain Steubin... he hates the cold and the Post-Intelligencer and all those who would subvert market justice by using artificial, tax-paid means to prolong the life of that rag!

Washington USED to be beautiful, but the leftists have a way of waving their Wretched Wand, and making shrivel up in a storm of taxes, Political Correctness and Dumbth, Piglet!

72 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:28:58am

re: #70 redc1c4

this one's for the Citizens of Kentucky.

I'm kind of surprised it wasn't a picture of the ice man, with a caption saying, "Iz in Kentooky. I can has FEMA?"

73 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:30:07am

re: #69 gmsc

Yeah, where did those republicans go? I can't find a single republican anywhere.

74 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:30:50am

Obama will make it up to Kentucky for ignoring them during this crises.

He'll put the GITMO detainees there next week!

75 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:31:39am

re: #73 BatGuano

Yeah, where did those republicans conservatives go? I can't find a single republican conservative anywhere.

76 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:32:24am

re: #74 sattv4u2

Obama will make it up to Kentucky for ignoring them during this crises.

He'll put the GITMO detainees there next week!

How many BTUs in a nice plump terrorist?

77 Moonbat Serenade  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:32:30am

re: #39 zombie

These are both in the range for cross quarter days- the days half way between the solstice and equinox. Because the actual time of the solstice or equinox can fall anywhere around the 24 hour day we usually associate with the equinox/solstice (a few hours before, sometime during the day, or a few hours after) could account for this discrepancy. Additionally, if you would average them from the actual time of the solstice/equinox, you would probably come out with 42 days and a few extra hours, which would make them fit fairly well as equal.

Nice job of sky watching.

78 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:32:32am

re: #68 logboy

I turned on my TV for the 1st time in two weeks to watch the super bowl. Apparently I'd been watching CBS when I last shut it off, and the 60 minutes Obama love fest was on. I watched it for 20 minutes just to observe their level of slavishness. They might as well be on the DNC payroll.

79 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:33:02am

re: #68 logboy

You didn't miss much in the 90s. Saddam invaded Kuwait and Clinton got a blowjob in the Oval office. Thats about it.

That's pretty much what I figured. I chose a good decade to miss.

80 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:33:22am

re: #75 sattv4u2

Yup, thanks for the edit.

81 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:33:32am

re: #74 sattv4u2

Obama will make it up to Kentucky for ignoring them during this crises.

He'll put the GITMO detainees there next week!

"Wait, Kentucky is a state?!? That makes 58!"
-Barack 0bama

82 RightKlik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:33:42am

re: #65 Syrah

If you understand Machiavelli, then you have to understand the folly of blaming Hitler and the (spit) Eugenicist on Darwin.

Oh yeah! I'll never again say anything that might be construed to suggest any such thing. You guys have corrected me in the error of my ways. No more B*n St*in movies for me.

83 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:35:37am

re: #82 RightKlik

Oh yeah! I'll never again say anything that might be construed to suggest any such thing. You guys have corrected me in the error of my ways. No more B*n St*in movies for me.

Including "The Mask" and "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"?

84 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:35:46am

re: #81 gmsc

"Wait, Kentucky is a state?!? That makes 58!"
-Barack 0bama

"That means we get to appoint 2 more senators!"

85 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:36:13am
No more B*n St*in movies for me.

Why am I not surprised.

86 Syrah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:36:42am

re: #82 RightKlik

Oh yeah! I'll never again say anything that might be construed to suggest any such thing. You guys have corrected me in the error of my ways. No more B*n St*in movies for me.

Oh I don't know about that. Not all of his movies need be ignored. Ferris Bueller's Day Off was OK.

87 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:36:48am

re: #72 gmsc

I'm kind of surprised it wasn't a picture of the ice man, with a caption saying, "Iz in Kentooky. I can has FEMA?"

Ice Ice Baby!

88 RightKlik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:38:08am

re: #85 Sharmuta

Why am I not surprised.


I know that B*n St*in was over the top with that movie, but he's usually funny. Didn't you like ferris bueller?

89 abaleh  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:39:23am

Happy Hugo Chavez Day everybody.

90 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:39:38am

re: #88 RightKlik

I thought you were leaving for the night.

91 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:39:56am

re: #89 abaleh

Happy Hugo Chavez Day everybody.

Can we use his melon as a Pinata' ?

92 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:40:29am

re: #84 sattv4u2

"That means we get to appoint 2 more senators!"

I had a friend from Kentucky, and whenever he traveled around the US, he delighted in challenging people with the following question:

"How do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky? Is it pronouced 'Lewis-ville', 'Lew-ee-ville' or 'Lew-vull'?"

People would offer their various guesses. If he were before a large enough group, he would get a vote going to see who could get the proper pronunciation.

For those who don't already know, the capital of Kentucky is both spelled and pronounced "Frankfort".

93 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:40:57am

re: #87 redc1c4

Ice Ice Baby!

OK, that seems more "Red". You didn't let me down.
;)

94 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:42:13am

re: #89 abaleh

Happy Hugo Chavez Day everybody.

Headline: Venezuela names Feb. 2 Chavez holiday

That's funny. I thought Feb. 2nd was already named after him!

95 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:43:30am

re: #92 gmsc

I had a friend from Kentucky, and whenever he traveled around the US, he delighted in challenging people with the following question:

"How do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky? Is it pronouced 'Lewis-ville', 'Lew-ee-ville' or 'Lew-vull'?"

People would offer their various guesses. If he were before a large enough group, he would get a vote going to see who could get the proper pronunciation.

For those who don't already know, the capital of Kentucky is both spelled and pronounced "Frankfort".

It's that way with lots of states. Thanks to lack of civics/ geography in grade schools, I'd be willing to bet half the populace less than 30 years of age thinks New York City is the capital of New York

96 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:45:22am

re: #89 abaleh

I propose that on April1, 2009 we celebrate Obama day.

97 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:45:51am

re: #95 sattv4u2

It's that way with lots of states. Thanks to lack of civics/ geography in grade schools, I'd be willing to bet half the populace less than 30 years of age thinks New York City is the capital of New York

Interviewer: What's the capital of New York?

Interviewee: "N"?

98 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:46:09am

re: #96 BatGuano

I propose that on April1, 2009 we celebrate Obama day.

He already has December 25th!

//doe eyed moonbat

99 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:46:35am

re: #95 sattv4u2

It's that way with lots of states. Thanks to lack of civics/ geography in grade schools, I'd be willing to bet half the populace less than 30 years of age thinks New York City is the capital of New York

i thought it was Puerto Rico?

100 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:46:36am

re: #96 BatGuano

I propose that on April1, 2009 we celebrate Obama day.

That's funny. I thought Apr. 1st was already named after him!

101 Moonbat Serenade  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:46:49am

re: #96 BatGuano

I propose that on April1, 2009 we celebrate Obama day.

Maybe Obama Voter Day ?

102 BakaRanger  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:46:58am

re: #89 abaleh

Happy Hugo Chavez Day everybody.

Headline: Venezuela names Feb. 2 Chavez holiday

That's funny. I thought Feb. 2nd was already named after him!


// I wonder if Sean Penn will wear his blue dress for Hugo?

103 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:47:09am

re: #98 sattv4u2

He already has December 25th!

//doe cow eyed moonbat

FTFY :)

104 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:47:13am

re: #96 BatGuano

I propose that on April1, 2009 we celebrate Obama day.

i was thinking February 30th....... %-)

105 Syrah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:47:46am

Goodnight lizards.

Rejoice in each others blessings.

Play nice.

Till tomorrow . . .

106 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:48:37am

OMg Hugo Chavez day! On that note I'll bid you adios. Take care, lizards.

107 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:48:39am

Night Syrah.

108 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:49:01am

re: #77 Moonbat Serenade

Nice job of sky watching.

I pay attention.

Because I know that the little things which seem "wrong" or "weird" in some way can lead to major discoveries.

For example, the famous observation by Le Verrier that the orbit of Mercury was off-kilter by a few almost-imperceptible degrees turned out to be the first direct measurement of what was later called The General Theory of Relativity -- many years before Einstein was even born!

If only Verrier has realized what he was seeing, he'd be the most famous scientist in history!

Studying the History of Science has given me a great appreciation for things.

109 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:49:04am

re: #105 Syrah

Good night, Kind Heart.

110 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:50:48am

re: #95 sattv4u2

It's that way with lots of states. Thanks to lack of civics/ geography in grade schools, I'd be willing to bet half the populace less than 30 years of age thinks New York City is the capital of New York

Let's start correcting this right now:
How many USA States can you name in 10 minutes?

How many USA State Capitals can you name in 10 minutes?

Here's some help to study before you take the quizzes:

(I'd bet more people learned the states and state capitals from this video than from their respective public schools.)

111 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:50:56am

re: #98 sattv4u2

Right!
/ slaps forehead

112 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:51:59am

re: #105 Syrah

Goodnight lizards.

Rejoice in each others blessings.

Play nice.

Till tomorrow . . .

Goodnight, Syrah!

113 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:53:35am

re: #108 zombie

In science, a few seconds of arc is monumental!

114 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:55:47am

re: #104 redc1c4

But that would mean no Obama ...Oh, I see what you mean.

115 Moonbat Serenade  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:58:00am

re: #108 zombie

I've been a sky watcher for many years. It's amazing what you can see if you just look.

Years ago, I helped design a henge/ampitheater at the local state park. It marks the sunrise/set of the first day of each season. The sun rise/set is viewed through a set of wall notches and sits directly on the top of a pole as soon as it clears the horizon only on solstice/equinox days.

It was the perfect monument to state government...it only works 4 days a year- the rest of the time it just sits there.

116 mean Gene  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:00:30am

re: #77 Moonbat Serenade

At Griffith Observatory there are a few lined in the concrete marking all of these various days.....they point to where the sun will rise and set at in that place.
Really makes you feel small.
The people in this photo are close to where the lines are:
Image: 55_griffith_observatory.jpg
That's the new bust of James Dean in honor of Rebel Without a Cause being filmed there.

117 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:00:35am

re: #114 BatGuano

But that would mean no Obama ...Oh, I see what you mean.

like Charlie said: "I may look dumb, but it's just a disguise....."

/white smoke

118 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:00:44am

re: #115 Moonbat Serenade

I've been a sky watcher for many years. It's amazing what you can see if you just look.

That works better in some places than in others. For example, ever notice that there aren't a plethora of observatories in Las Vegas? Yeah, there's a reason for that . . .

119 Edouard  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:02:07am

re: #102 BakaRanger

re: #89 abaleh

Happy Hugo Chavez Day everybody.

Headline: Venezuela names Feb. 2 Chavez holiday

That's funny. I thought Feb. 2nd was already named after him!

A new portrait of El Gran Raton has just been released for this auspicious occasion.

120 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:03:49am

re: #110 gmsc

Let's start correcting this right now:
How many USA States can you name in 10 minutes?

How many USA State Capitals can you name in 10 minutes?

OK, I named (and typed) all 50 states in 3:11 (with 6:49 left on the clock). That was easy.

Now I'll try the capitals. That will be a great deal harder!

121 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:05:58am

re: #120 zombie

OK, I named (and typed) all 50 states in 3:11 (with 6:49 left on the clock). That was easy.

Now I'll try the capitals. That will be a great deal harder!

You're a faster typer than I

All 50 with just over 3;00 left on the clock. Its been decades since i've been in school, so I think i'll quit while i'm ahead and skip the capitals!

122 abaleh  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:07:24am

re: #119 Edouard

That's hillarious. Maybe Disney should sue him for copyright theft.

/

123 Moonbat Serenade  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:07:35am

re: #118 gmsc

Yeah....and it's getting worse. I have to travel about an hour to get to really dark skies for good observing. Fortunately, there's still lots to see from just about anywhere if you just look around.

I'm waiting till about 5 AM to check out a new comet, clouds permitting.

124 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:08:05am

re: #116 mean Gene

At Griffith Observatory there are a few lined in the concrete marking all of these various days.....they point to where the sun will rise and set at in that place.
Really makes you feel small.
The people in this photo are close to where the lines are:
[Link: www.kthread.com...]
That's the new bust of James Dean in honor of Rebel Without a Cause being filmed there.

and then there's always the James Dean Memorial

125 golly_wog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:09:40am

Zombie, have you ever seen the analemma sundial at the Coral Castle in Florida?

126 stevieray  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:10:48am

re: #123 Moonbat Serenade

Tonight?

127 Crux Australis  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:15:04am

The analemma I see is upside down. duh! I live in the Southern Hemisphere.

128 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:17:04am

re: #120 zombie

OK, I named (and typed) all 50 states in 3:11 (with 6:49 left on the clock). That was easy.

Now I'll try the capitals. That will be a great deal harder!

re: #121 sattv4u2

You're a faster typer than I

All 50 with just over 3;00 left on the clock. Its been decades since i've been in school, so I think i'll quit while i'm ahead and skip the capitals!

For me:

States: 2:25 (7:35 left on the clock), all 50
Capitals: 2:59 (7:01 left on the clock), all 50

A good way to remember the states, the capitals, and their locations, is by practicing with the technique at the 50 States of Mind website. It's fun and cool.

129 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:19:16am

re: #127 Crux Australis

I have a great photo of it but it is in a book: No link.

130 Moonbat Serenade  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:19:37am

re: #126 stevieray

Yes. Comet Lulin. Should be visible in binoculars without too much trouble. It will move into the night sky in a couple weeks, but now it's a pre-dawn object.

Image: skymap_north_lulin.gif

131 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:19:46am

re: #110 gmsc

Let's start correcting this right now:
How many USA States can you name in 10 minutes?

How many USA State Capitals can you name in 10 minutes?

Aghhh! I only got 38 state capitals in 10 minutes! I am so ashamed.

I should have gotten three more correct, but I kept misspelling Annapolis as Anapolis, Montpelier as Montpellier, and Bismarck as Bismark. Totally threw me off -- I wasted many minutes trying to think up the real capitals of Maryland, Vermont and North Dakota, when I already had the right answers, but spelled wrong!

But I admit defeat on 9 of them -- I should have remembered them, but my brain froze under the pressure. Tne only one I flat-out didn't know was Jefferson City, Missouri.

132 golly_wog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:20:43am

re: #129 BatGuano

I've found one online pic, but it's not very good, and my browser needs to go for a walk, so I can't search with ease at the moment.

133 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:22:19am

re: #128 gmsc

re: #131 zombie

My imitation of Obama naming the states from east to west

New York ,mumble mumbel mumble mumble mumble , Illinois, mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble California, Hawaii

134 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:24:44am

re: #128 gmsc

For me:

States: 2:25 (7:35 left on the clock), all 50
Capitals: 2:59 (7:01 left on the clock), all 50

A good way to remember the states, the capitals, and their locations, is by practicing with the technique at the 50 States of Mind website. It's fun and cool.

Ah, you studied. I hadn't given the slightest thought to state capitals since elementary school. "Rusty" hardly begins to describe my level of knowledge on the subject.

135 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:27:06am

OK, astronomy, state capitals, learned a new word -- my midnight break is complete. Now back to work!

136 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:27:07am

re: #131 zombie

Impressive. All I know is that Columbia is the the Capital of America and that America was discovered by Columbus in 1942.

137 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:32:49am

re: #136 BatGuano

Impressive. All I know is that Columbia is the the Capital of America and that America was discovered by Columbus in 1942.

Was that before or after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

138 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:34:05am

in the words of Pink Floyd, " Is there anybody out there"?

139 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:34:15am

re: #131 zombie

Aghhh! I only got 38 state capitals in 10 minutes! I am so ashamed.

I should have gotten three more correct, but I kept misspelling Annapolis as Anapolis, Montpelier as Montpellier, and Bismarck as Bismark. Totally threw me off -- I wasted many minutes trying to think up the real capitals of Maryland, Vermont and North Dakota, when I already had the right answers, but spelled wrong!

But I admit defeat on 9 of them -- I should have remembered them, but my brain froze under the pressure. Tne only one I flat-out didn't know was Jefferson City, Missouri.

All in all, I'd say the LGF group here does well above average!

Fun state and state capital trivia questions:

1) There are 4 U.S. state capitals whose names end in the word "City". How many of them can you name? (Answer: Jefferson City, Missouri, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Salt Lake City, Utah and Carson City, Nevada.)

2) What's the only U.S. state capital whose name doesn't have any letters in common with it's state? (Answer: Pierre, South Dakota,)

3) What is the only letter of the alphabet that doesn't appear in any state names? (Answer: Q.)

4) There are 4 U.S. state capitals whose names begin with the same letter as their respective states. What are they? (Dover, Delaware, Honolulu, Hawaii, Indianapolis, Indiana, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma)

5) What are the only 5 states that ratified the U.S. Constitution in the 20th century? (Answer: Alaska, Arizona, Hawaii, New Mexico and Oklahoma.)

6) The names of what two PAIRS of U.S. state capitals end in the same seven letters? (Answer: Annapolis & Indianapolis and Carson City & Jefferson City.)

140 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:35:13am

re: #134 zombie

Ah, you studied. I hadn't given the slightest thought to state capitals since elementary school. "Rusty" hardly begins to describe my level of knowledge on the subject.

I'd be glad if we could just get most elementary school students up to your level of "rusty" before they go on to Junior High!

141 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:36:06am

re: #125 golly_wog

Zombie, have you ever seen the analemma sundial at the Coral Castle in Florida?

Not only have I not seen it, I have never been within 1000 miles of Florida!

142 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:36:09am

re: #137 sattv4u2

Hello? The Japs nuked Pearl Harbor. Guyyyy!

143 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:37:27am

re: #137 sattv4u2

Was that before or after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Geez, do you people have to pick so much? After all, even 0bama knows they only dropped one bomb on Pearl Harbor!

/////

144 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:38:52am

Sorry folks got distracted by TED T.V. . I found this talk really fascinating and lots of pretty pictures. Is it just me, or does the image map of the universe look like a map of a neural network?

/my god, the universe IS the brain of god.

145 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:39:21am

re: #143 gmsc

Geez, do you people have to pick so much? After all, even 0bama knows they only dropped one bomb on Pearl Harbor!

/////

hey ,, what can I say. Only one of those planes had a pilot with good aim!

146 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:40:34am

re: #143 gmsc

I am reporting you to the Obama Central Committee of Subversive Truths!

147 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:44:00am

re: #140 gmsc

I'd be glad if we could just get most elementary school students up to your level of "rusty" before they go on to Junior High!

Well, after the end of 3rd grade, my school system went "The Full PC" and we stopped learning normal knowledge. So, I learned a lot of useful stuff in K-3, but 4 through 12 was a total washout.

At least I can now count in Base-12 and recite all of Malcolm X's speeches by heart! So, school was good for something.

148 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:44:34am

re: #135 zombie

OK, astronomy, state capitals, learned a new word -- my midnight break is complete. Now back to work!

Take care, and hurry back!

149 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:45:55am

re: #147 zombie

Well, after the end of 3rd grade, my school system went "The Full PC" and we stopped learning normal knowledge. So, I learned a lot of useful stuff in K-3, but 4 through 12 was a total washout.

At least I can now count in Base-12 and recite all of Malcolm X's speeches by heart! So, school was good for something.

For Zombie:

150 freetoken  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:47:43am

re: #144 BlueCanuck

Smoot is good but there is so much he tries to sqeeze into a few minutes... so everything goes by so quickly.

151 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:48:06am

re: #146 BatGuano

I am reporting you to the Obama Central Committee of Subversive Truths!

Does that mean the Civilian Security Force is coming to get me?

152 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:48:41am

How's Bob Dylan's lung problem going?

No Morality begets anarchy, Bob. *sigh

..................and screw what you believe politally, btw....

153 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:50:54am

re: #149 gmsc

For Zombie:

[Video]

Exactly!

I was a victim of dozenalism:

Advocacy and "dozenalism"

The case for the duodecimal system was put forth at length in F. Emerson Andrews' 1935 book New Numbers: How Acceptance of a Duodecimal Base Would Simplify Mathematics. Emerson noted that, due to the prevalence of factors of twelve in many traditional units of weight and measure, many of the computational advantages claimed for the metric system could be realized either by the adoption of ten-based weights and measure or by the adoption of the duodecimal number system.
Rather than the symbols 'A' for ten and 'B' for eleven as used in hexadecimal notation and vigesimal notation (or 'T' and 'E' for ten and eleven), he suggested in his book and used a script X and a script E, and , to represent the digits ten and eleven respectively, because, at least on a page of Roman script, these characters were distinct from any existing letters or numerals, yet were readily available in printers' fonts. He chose for its resemblance to the Roman numeral X, and as the first letter of the word "eleven".

154 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:52:48am

re: #147 zombie

Oooh, I must be a lot older than you. My high school days were spent learning the history of the USA, World history,math, physics, general science, literature, communism (got an A on that).But no Malcom X.

155 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:54:02am

re: #144 BlueCanuck

Sorry folks got distracted by TED T.V. . I found this talk really fascinating and lots of pretty pictures. Is it just me, or does the image map of the universe look like a map of a neural network?

/my god, the universe IS the brain of god.

Turning to astronomy, here are some good sites to learn just about the scale of the universe as we know it:

Proportional Representation of the Solar System (Just keep scrolling to the right to get an idea of the relative sizes and distances of the planets as compared to the sun!)

Awesome & Humbling (Size of planets and stars compared)

UniverScale (The scale of just about everything!)

...and of course, the classic "Powers of 10" (In English with Japanese subtitles):

156 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:57:10am

re: #151 gmsc

The One is organizing it as we speak and you, you son of a bitch, are #3 on the list Not that I'm against it, my Chosen Overlord!

157 BignJames  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:58:52am

re: #131 zombie

I didn't know how to spell Connecticut.

158 Erik The Red  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:59:01am

Morning Lizards. I am working to damn hard for a Monday. Dealing with other peoples fuck ups.

A man was leaving a cafe when he noticed an unusual funeral. A funeral
Coffin was followed by a second one. Behind the second coffin was a solitary
man walking with a black dog. Behind him was a queue of 200 men walking in
single line.

The man couldn't stand his curiosity. He approached the man walking with the
dog, "I am so sorry to disturb you, but I've never seen a funeral like this
with so many of you walking in single line. Whose funeral is it?" The man
replied, "That first coffin is for my wife." "What happened to her?"

"My dog attacked and killed her." "Well, who is in the second coffin?"
My mother-in-law. She was trying to help my wife when the dog attacked and
killed her also." A thoughtful moment of silence passes between the two men.


Then the first one asks in excitement, "Can I borrow the dog?" The man
replied, "Join the queue."

159 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:00:08am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

160 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:00:18am

re: #153 zombie

Exactly!

I was a victim of dozenalism:

I remember the first time I saw that "Little Twelvetoes". The first question that popped into my mind after hearing about "dec" and "el" was why did the name of "10" change to "do"? Couldn't it still be called "ten", even if, to us earthlings it meant "12"?

Strange semi-related thought: Here's a math problem that works in both numbers AND words -

2 + 11 - 1 = 12
(Proof: 2 + 11 = 13,
13 - 1 = 12)

TWO + ELEVEN - ONE = TWELVE
(Proof: TWO + ELEVEN = TWOELEVEN,
TWOELEVEN - ONE = TWELVE)

161 Erik The Red  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:00:39am

Three girls all worked in the same office with the same female boss. Each
day, they noticed the boss left work early.
One day the girls decided that when the boss left, they would leave right
behind her. After all, she never called or came back to work, so how would
she know they went home early? The brunette was thrilled to be home early.
She did a little gardening, spent playtime with her son, and went to bed
early. The redhead was elated to be able to get in a quick workout at the
spa before meeting a dinner date.

The blonde was happy to get home early and surprise her husband, but when
she got to her bedroom, she heard a muffled noise from inside.
Slowly and quietly, she cracked open the door and was mortified to see her
husband in bed with her lady boss!
Gently, she closed the door and crept out of her house.

The next day, at their coffee break, the brunette and redhead planned to
leave early again, and they asked the blonde if she was going to go with
them.

"No way", the blonde exclaimed. "I almost got caught yesterday.".

162 freetoken  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:00:52am

re: #159 littleoldlady

Yo.... something to go with my midnight burrito!

163 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:01:11am

re: #159 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning!

What a great treat during math and astronomy class!
;)

164 Erik The Red  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:01:12am

re: #159 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Morning {lol} Thanks for fruitcup

165 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:01:25am

Fruitcup! It's what's for......somewhere between midnight snack and breakfast.

166 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:02:15am

freetoken! :-)

gmsc! :-)

Erik! :-)

Question: Can circuit breakers break?

/not having a very good day so far... :-(

167 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:02:35am

re: #159 littleoldlady

Thank you littleoldlady, I needs me some fruit.

168 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:02:48am

Fenway! :-)

It's what's for...fruitcup! ;-)

169 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:03:02am

BatGuano! :-)

170 zombie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:03:14am

re: #154 BatGuano

Oooh, I must be a lot older than you. My high school days were spent learning the history of the USA, World history,math, physics, general science, literature, communism (got an A on that).But no Malcom X.

Oh man, you were lucky. The only thing I ever learned about the USA was that it sucks and that we once allowed slavery. That's about it. The three Greatest Americans were Crispus Attucks, Harriet Tubman and Malcolm X.

Basically, all knowledge that I have, I learned on my own time and own initiative. In college I had a specialty major so didn't learn much "normal stuff" there either.

171 BignJames  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:03:18am

re: #166 littleoldlady

Yes.

172 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:05:07am

BignJames! :-)

:-(

173 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:10:04am

re: #170 zombie

Oh man, you were lucky. The only thing I ever learned about the USA was that it sucks and that we once allowed slavery. That's about it. The three Greatest Americans were Crispus Attucks, Harriet Tubman and Malcolm X.

Basically, all knowledge that I have, I learned on my own time and own initiative. In college I had a specialty major so didn't learn much "normal stuff" there either.

Crispus Attucks? The black teen who brought snowballs to a gun fight in 1773?

174 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:11:14am

Good morning littleoldlady. Sorry I am late for fruitcup. I blame gmsc and his links. :)

175 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:11:42am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Can you do electrical work?

176 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:12:02am

re: #170 zombie

I learned about Crispus Attucs in junior in high school .He was a rioter as were all of the "Boston Massacre", participants.

177 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:12:23am

re: #173 gmsc


Actually, I didn't learn that Crispus Attucks was black until fairly recently.

178 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:13:12am

re: #175 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

Can you do electrical work?

Me and electricity have an understanding. It stays in it's circuits, and I don't open them.

/me and tamed lightning have a history, I have no luck sometimes. ;)

179 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:13:15am

re: #170 zombie

Luckily they threw me out of school before all that started.

I should thank them one day for that.

=

Zombie: I hope you don't mind being on my little blogroll. Mom loves you and said I'd better link you or she wouldn't read me.

I almost didn't after that...

GOOD
SON,
R

180 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:13:31am

re: #157 BignJames

I didn't know how to spell Connecticut.

It's right next to ROAD Island, ya know!

181 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:15:13am

re: #178 BlueCanuck

I can change a switch in the wall or rewire a lamp (as long as I've checked to make sure the life insurance has been paid) but I won't touch the Big Box in the Basement.

/crap. BIG MONEY! BIG MONEY!
//Wheel of Fortune mode off...

182 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:15:28am

re: #180 sattv4u2

Does that mean you have to be a Rhodes scholar to figure out how to spell it?

183 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:16:54am

re: #178 BlueCanuck

Me and electricity have an understanding. It stays in it's circuits, and I don't open them.

/me and tamed lightning have a history, I have no luck sometimes. ;)

BlueCanuck's advice is valuable. When dealing with electricity, especially large amounts, don't fool around. Make sure you let an expert handle it!

For littleoldlady and BlueCanuck:

184 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:17:00am

re: #182 Fenway_Nation

Does that mean you have to be a Rhodes scholar to figure out how to spell it?

I think just about anyone can combine an "I" and a "T" to spell "IT"!

Geeezzzzz!

185 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:21:07am

re: #173 gmsc

And oyster shells and rocks, and anything else available

186 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:21:28am

re: #183 gmsc

Let's send that to Obama...

187 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:23:32am

re: #170 zombie


Curiously, despite growing up in a blue state flanked by some moonbat-infested college communities, I don't remember the public schools cramming anything resembling today's overbearing PC dogma down our throats.

The hot-button issues back then seemed to be Apartheid and Tianamen Square and its aftermath....

188 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:24:25am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Let's send that to Obama...

*snicker*

189 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:25:32am

re: #187 Fenway_Nation

Back in my day it was energy conservation, and multiculturalism. And something called new math.

190 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:27:13am

re: #187 Fenway_Nation
The hot-button issues back then seemed to be Apartheid and Tianamen Square and its aftermath....

Geeezzzz ,,, i'm old. The 'Hot-Button' issues when I was in school was trying to find out which neighbors had a fallout shelter because Khrushchev was going to nuke us!

191 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:28:01am

re: #170 zombie

Most of what I know now, I learned on my own. I will continue to learn until I sprout mushrooms.

192 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:29:04am

re: #159 littleoldlady

Thanks!

193 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:29:21am

re: #187 Fenway_Nation

Curiously, despite growing up in a blue state flanked by some moonbat-infested college communities, I don't remember the public schools cramming anything resembling today's overbearing PC dogma down our throats.

The hot-button issues back then seemed to be Apartheid and Tianamen Square and its aftermath....

Geez, I feel old in this crowd now.

The big thing when I was in elementary school was the metric system, which we'd all be using in a few years! And they were right - to this day, I regularly use 2 liter bottles.

My favorite teacher was a 6th grade teacher who assigned us to write an essay on the life of the artist we were assigned. We had to write the essay in first person ("My name is Leonardo da Vinci. I was born . . ."), and give the report verbally in front of the class, dressed as that artist. We also had to recreate one of that artists' works as best as we could. That was fun, and we all learned so much about the various artists.

194 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:29:34am

re: #190 sattv4u2

I'm as old as you are.

/maybe even older

;-)

195 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:29:44am

re: #174 BlueCanuck

Good morning littleoldlady. Sorry I am late for fruitcup. I blame gmsc and his links. :)

I blame Frodo.

196 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:30:01am

Sharmuta! :-)

197 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:30:29am

re: #196 littleoldlady

{lol}

198 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:30:48am

re: #189 BlueCanuck

Heh...back then my hometown's idea of multiculturalism was the kids with the Italian-sounding last names getting along with the kids with the Polish-sounding last names.

/Us kids with the Irish-sounding last names were marginalized

199 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:33:47am

re: #194 littleoldlady

I'm as old as you are.

/maybe even older

;-)

The hell with fruitcup ,,, GERITOL !

200 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:34:03am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

I lived in a small city in the boondocks, so most multiculturalism for the class was theoretical. I had previously lived in Toronto. My best friend was of Japanese descent, my cousins was Chinese, and one of my brothers friends was Jamacian. Really bizarre thinking about it now, getting taught to get along with other "Nationalities". Oh yeah, another big bugaboo being taught about growing up, the evils of nuclear energy, and the push for nuclear disarmanment.

201 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:36:35am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

For me it was the korean siblings adopted by the swedes.

202 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:37:25am

re: #199 sattv4u2

You remember Geritol?

203 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:38:23am

re: #202 BatGuano

You remember Geritol?

REMEMBER IT !?!?!?! It's at the base of my food pyramid!

204 BignJames  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:38:45am

re: #202 BatGuano

You remember Geritol?

Ted Mack, too.

205 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:39:13am

How about Serutan?

206 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:39:39am

re: #204 BignJames

Ted Mack, too.

sitting for hours in front of my uncles TV (the only one in the neighborhood) just to see the test pattern

207 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:39:59am

re: #205 BatGuano

How about Serutan?

It's NATURES, spelled backwards !

208 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:40:11am

re: #202 BatGuano

It does not taste good like the commercial said.

209 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:40:17am

re: #204 BignJames

Ted Macks Amateur hour?

210 BignJames  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:40:59am

re: #209 BatGuano

Ted Macks Amateur hour?


The one and only.

211 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:41:52am

Gooood Moooorning LGF!

The Living End - Wake Up

BURIED
IN
SAND,
R

212 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:43:11am

LGF on youtube...Betty Nguyen talks to Charles Johnson

If you have a youtube account please comment, I did.
213 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:43:31am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

Heh...back then my hometown's idea of multiculturalism was the kids with the Italian-sounding last names getting along with the kids with the Polish-sounding last names.

/Us kids with the Irish-sounding last names were marginalized

That sounds like a great excuse to play the Irish folk song, "The Black Velvet Band":

(I like "All For Me Grog", too!)

214 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:45:10am

re: #210 BignJames

My people! Remembering these things!

215 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:48:23am

re: #193 gmsc


My favorite teacher was a 6th grade teacher who assigned us to write an essay on the life of the artist we were assigned. We had to write the essay in first person ("My name is Leonardo da Vinci. I was born . . ."), and give the report verbally in front of the class, dressed as that artist. We also had to recreate one of that artists' works as best as we could. That was fun, and we all learned so much about the various artists.

Typical rethugliKKKan brainwashing and worship of dead white males! Although nowadays, you could probably pull that off if you decided to do a report about the life and times of those great Palestinian artist with all those famous works.........you know....like the one who's best-known works are on display in that museum

/wait a sec...

216 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:56:24am

re: #201 Sharmuta

For me it was the korean siblings adopted by the swedes.


Actually, 'the girl next door' (which was about 3/4 of mile away) was black/Puerto Rican adopted by an Irish family. She and I fought like cats and dogs (spurred by my smarminess and her short temper) yet when she'd finish shrieking some pretty nasty, petty, mean-spirited things at me, she would compliment me on my eyes (or turn to one of her friends and discuss my eyes while I was standing right there). Apparently that was her twisted, backhanded way of saying she liked me....

217 Tamron  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 2:56:53am

re: #175 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

Can you do electrical work?


LOL, are you gonna try to re-wire the innards of your new computer?
.

218 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:05:28am

re: #217 Tamron

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

Actually, the old computer needs to go to the PCFixerGuy, if not to be fixed at least so I can get the stuff that's in there outta there. My coffeemaker leaks. talloldman broke yet another vacuum cleaner, and the dog hair is about ankle deep now. And it appears I'm going to have to hire an electrician to replace one (maybe two - this might explain why my outside lights don't work) circuit breakers.

/Joe Bxflxt (sp?) mode
//but wait! You also get the ginsu knives!

It's gonna schnoe again - just when we've managed to get most of the ice from the last storm under control. :-(

Tamron! :-)

219 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:05:43am

Police: Gunmen kidnap American in Pakistan
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

How can this be? ,,, I thought now that George Bush is gone, the world loves us !

220 gmsc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:06:31am

Good night, all!

221 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:07:51am

Night gmsc, see you tomorrow.

222 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:08:19am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

223 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:09:34am

Night gmsc! Don't let the prostitutes/undercover cops bite!

224 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:13:26am

re: #222 littleoldlady

I'm an idiot. You have changed your avatar thingy.

225 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:13:55am

re: #219 sattv4u2

An American UN employee no less...

The UN to blame the US in 30 seconds or less.

IF
NOT
SOONER,
R

226 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:14:32am

Good morning, Lizards!

227 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:15:32am

Good morning Godess

228 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:16:15am

{BatGuano}

229 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:16:27am

I've had my Sgt. Alvin York avatar for almost ten years.

Brought it with me from an old forum.

ANGRY
OLD
MAN,
R

230 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:16:32am

re: #224 BatGuano

Isn't it cool? It's got CHOCOLATE! Freetoken gave it to me.

/actually, I stole it ;-)

'Morning, goddess! :-)

MAZEL TOV! :-)

231 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:18:16am

So is Spike Lee going to start filming a documentary about infamous Kentucky ice storms of 2009 and how it was a conspiracy to drive people from their homes?

Maybe Hollywood will put on a benefit concert for those in Kentucky and Toby Keith will start to blubber and declare that President 0bama hates white people...

232 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:18:39am

re: #229 Render

Hey, Render did you know that Alvin York... yeah you know.

233 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:19:07am

Morning {goddess}.

234 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:21:43am

re: #232 BatGuano

Yup.

THAT'S
OK,
R

235 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:21:49am

re: #230 littleoldlady

Isn't it cool? It's got CHOCOLATE! Freetoken gave it to me.

/actually, I stole it ;-)

'Morning, goddess! :-)

MAZEL TOV! :-)

{littleoldlady}

Thank you! I only watched the first quarter and a half. I'm convinced I'm a jinx, and I can't stand suspense. I'm THRILLED that the Steelers won, but now I hope to find someone who's taped the game so that I can watch it.

236 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:23:31am

re: #230 littleoldlady

I don't see the chocolate, but more power to ya, :)

237 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:24:20am
238 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:28:28am

re: #235 goddessoftheclassroom

I caught most of the game on the radio today (with the notable exception of the last 5 minutes of regulation). Any noteworthy commercials?

239 freetoken  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:29:19am

re: #230 littleoldlady

Isn't it cool? It's got CHOCOLATE! Freetoken gave it to me.


Hey... you're worth it!

240 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:30:14am

re: #238 Fenway_Nation

I caught most of the game on the radio today (with the notable exception of the last 5 minutes of regulation). Any noteworthy commercials?

I'm going to have to watch them on the internet--I was really too tense to take them in!

241 Geepers  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:39:00am

Well it's my birthday and we all know what that means.

That's right, this is the day Punxsutawney Phil leaves his burrow on Gobblers Knob to check for his shadow and tell us whether we can expect six more weeks of winter.

Sunrise is less than an hour away.

242 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:39:35am

re: #241 Geepers

Well it's my birthday and we all know what that means.

That's right, this is the day Punxsutawney Phil leaves his burrow on Gobblers Knob to check for his shadow and tell us whether we can expect six more weeks of winter.

Sunrise is less than an hour away.

Happy birthday!

243 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:42:05am

freetoken! :-)

244 Harry Tuttle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:42:12am

Sup mah peeps?

245 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:45:58am

Happy Groundhog Day

246 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:47:06am
247 Erik The Red  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:47:48am

re: #241 Geepers

Well it's my birthday and we all know what that means.

That's right, this is the day Punxsutawney Phil leaves his burrow on Gobblers Knob to check for his shadow and tell us whether we can expect six more weeks of winter.

Sunrise is less than an hour away.

Happy Birthday Geepers

248 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:57:43am

Ok I've gotten around to ordering my digital converter boxes. Although I'm not entirely certain why I ordered two. The only time my TV has been turned on over the last four years was for football and the occasional taped movie.

[The only other TV in the house sees a fair amount of usage as its owner is a House fan.]

Most of the time my TV sits facing the wall, covered in dust and random computer parts.

COUPON
THIS,
R

249 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:59:18am

Got to get ready for school. I don't know whether the students will be wired because Pittsburgh won or zombies because they stayed up so late...

250 tappin52  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:00:53am

re: #236 BatGuano

The cup is chocolate. Hey, LoL, sounds like you need a REAL vacation.

251 tappin52  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:02:43am

By the way LoL, I have coffeemakers all over the place. I could send you one.

252 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:03:24am

re: #250 tappin52

HA. :-(

tappin! :-)

253 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:05:02am

re: #251 tappin52

Thanks, but...I'm picky! ;-)

254 cartoonboy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:05:54am

Over 1 million people are still without power in Kentucky.

I'm so grateful Obama is keeping warm in the whitehouse with the thermostat set so high "you could grow orchids in there."

I think he hopes nobody will notice if he ignores the problem.

After all, Kentucky is not New Orleans.

255 3 wood  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:06:46am

Good morning.

Looks like the market will open sharply down as the futures are down about 1.5%, and the Nikkei and Hang Seng dropped overnight as well.

This is in anticipation of further bad profit numbers, continued fears of deterioration in the banking situation, and another 500,000 jobs in January

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:09:28am

re: #249 goddessoftheclassroom

Happy for ya. I didn't doom you guys after all. I almost did, but, I didn't.

257 3 wood  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:09:59am

re: #254 cartoonboy


Over 1 million people are still without power in Kentucky.

I'm so grateful Obama is keeping warm in the whitehouse with the thermostat set so high "you could grow orchids in there."

I think he hopes nobody will notice if he ignores the problem.

After all, Kentucky is not New Orleans.

Yeah, I've noticed how the MSM has not mentioned anything about Obama related to this, but if Bush were still President it would be non-stop pounding on the White House as if the ice storm and the inability of local officials to deal with it was his fault.

But so far for Obama? Crickets.

258 tappin52  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:11:21am

One thing about Katrina that always annoyed me.............. It was a massive storm that devastated an area the size of the country of Great Britain, yet you would think from media reports that only the city of New Orleans was hit. Haley Barbour did a great job managing his resources, but Ray Nagin became a celebrity.

259 gregg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:11:48am

If you believe in stock market indicators, things are not looking good for this year:

- As goes January, so goes the year (90% accuracy ratio according to the Stock Traders Almanac).

- An AFC win in the Super Bowl means a down year for the markets (80% accuracy.

260 rightside  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:12:01am

re: #254 cartoonboy

Over 1 million people are still without power in Kentucky.

I'm so grateful Obama is keeping warm in the whitehouse with the thermostat set so high "you could grow orchids in there."

I think he hopes nobody will notice if he ignores the problem.

After all, Kentucky is not New Orleans.

Obama hates white people. Simple as that. I am waiting for kanye west to announce that.

261 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:13:43am

Morning all!
Looks like a lovely, not too cold morning here in Alexandria.
How's everyone?

262 rightside  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:15:31am

re: #261 jim in virginia

Morning jim.

263 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:16:53am

re: #255 3 wood

Good morning.

Looks like the market will open sharply down as the futures are down about 1.5%, and the Nikkei and Hang Seng dropped overnight as well.

This is in anticipation of further bad profit numbers, continued fears of deterioration in the banking situation, and another 500,000 jobs in January


The sense I get from folks in design and construction ( a limited sample,admittedly) is that the hope and anxiety of December is now fear. No one knows what is going to happen, folks are hunkering down to survive. If they can.

264 cartoonboy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:17:41am

Today's forecast for Murray, Kentucky: Daytime high 46°, overnight low 24°.

Today's forecast for the inside of the houses of the residents of Murray, Kentucky:
Daytime high 46°, overnight low 24°.

Today's prediction for Obama's public show of concern over the plight of the 1 million plus Kentuckians suffering without power for the past week:

265 3 wood  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:17:45am

Michael Phelps caught toking up:
Phelps acknowledges photo using pot pipe

Olympic great Michael Phelps acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper Sunday showed him inhaling from a marijuana pipe.
In a statement to The Associated Press, the swimmer who won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games did not dispute the authenticity of the exclusive picture published Sunday by the tabloid News of the World.
"I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment," Phelps said in the statement released by one of his agents. "I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."

Hey Phelps should have just pointed at Obama and said he was imitating the Messiah.

But now Phelps can forget about most of his sponsorship and endorsement deals. Maybe High Times will hire him, but that's about it.

266 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:26am

rightside!

267 3 wood  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:20:51am

re: #263 jim in virginia

The sense I get from folks in design and construction ( a limited sample,admittedly) is that the hope and anxiety of December is now fear. No one knows what is going to happen, folks are hunkering down to survive. If they can.

I heard that. Fear is the ruling emotion right now, including our Great Leader.

268 rightside  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:21:56am

{lol}
{goddess}

269 3 wood  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:22:14am

re: #263 jim in virginia

I think we are looking at another 20% drop in the market before this stops.

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:28:19am

Anybody catch the 1 second Miller High Life commercial last night? Was the cream of the crop (IMHO).

271 littleoldlady  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:29:25am

rightside! :-)

272 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:29:38am

re: #269 3 wood

I think we are looking at another 20% drop in the market before this stops.


6400 as bottom?
Yikes.

273 Harry Tuttle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:29:52am

re: #269 3 wood

I think we are looking at another 20% drop in the market before this stops.

Or the crash hasn't really *started* yet.

274 rightside  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:30:55am

I am very concerned for our country, in that the drive-bys can have such an impact on public opinion.

The level at which they can ridicule and marginalize anyone on the right, meanwhile completely ignoring anyone on the left does to embarrass themselves, should scare everyone.

What can be done about it is the question. Propagandists.

275 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:31:35am

I'm reading Amity Shlaes Forgotten Man right now. FDR looks much better in hindsight than he did in 1933, 34. 35..
Wonder if Obama, Reichhhh, or Geithner have read that?

276 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:32:16am

re: #1 coquimbojoe

What will the new week bring?

Woes, weeping, and lamentations. And the pessimists will really be downhearted.

'Sup, folks. Hope y'all's morning is starting as fine as mine. Didn't even have to use the shock-paddles to get the ol' heart started this A.M., and the coffee involved nothing more complicated than flipping a switch.

Life is good.

277 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:33:52am

razorbacker!
How are things in Booger County?

278 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:34:43am

re: #265 3 wood

I see where Michael Phelps got confused. Pots are used to hold water, while pipes are used to let water pass through.

Common enough mistake amongst the younger set. He'll learn better.

279 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:37:07am

re: #277 jim in virginia

Coming along, my friend. Couple of months, and we'll be right back into the 19th century again.

Water is back for about half, power is coming up nicely. I only know of two weather-related deaths, both by falling trees.

Could'a been better, could'a been worse.

280 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:40:52am

re: #255 3 wood

Good morning.

Looks like the market will open sharply down as the futures are down about 1.5%, and the Nikkei and Hang Seng dropped overnight as well.

This is in anticipation of further bad profit numbers, continued fears of deterioration in the banking situation, and another 500,000 jobs in January

Once you accept the fact that the market is run by folks with the collective mentality of a flock of yardbirds, the rest comes as little surprise.

Get out of the way, no sense in being trampled to death by a bunch of chickens (lemmings, whatever your metaphor of choice may be).

281 3 wood  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:41:52am

Tim Geithner screwed up already:
China, U.S. shout to be heard in dialogue of the deaf

BEIJING (Reuters) - China has just ushered in the Year of the Ox, which is typically associated in the lunar calendar with calm, fortitude and success through toil.

That's just as well, for China and the United States will need great calm and fortitude if they are to repair through hard work the damage done by new U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's accusation that Beijing manipulates its currency.

Now, it is patently true that the yuan's exchange rate is controlled by the People's Bank of China. How else did the central bank accumulate nearly $2 trillion in reserves? Was it by accident that the yuan rose 20 percent against the dollar over three years only to become rooted to the spot since last July?

Of course not. China, with extensive capital controls, actively "manages" its exchange rate.

But "manipulation" is a dirty word in currency diplomacy. If the Treasury were to determine in its next report to Congress in the spring that China manipulates the yuan, it would be obliged under U.S. law to launch negotiations with Beijing on the issue.

Given China's abhorrence of outsiders' poking their nose into its business, that would be sure to enrage China.

By all accounts from Washington, the inclusion of the word "manipulation" in Geithner's written testimony to the Senate Finance Committee was due to sloppy staff work and poor inter-agency coordination within a young administration.

President Barack Obama acted quickly, first through his spokesman and later through a call to President Hu Jintao, to smooth ruffled feathers.

The Chinese-language Economic Observer said in a front-page commentary that only "extreme irrationality" would prevent China and the United States from continuing to work together.

"It's not that the United States needs China or that China needs the United States, but that they both need each other."

You bet your boots that the US needs China right now. With this massive debt we have to finance, we need them to buy our treasuries.

282 gregg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:42:15am

re: #275 jim in virginia

I'm reading Amity Shlaes Forgotten Man right now. FDR looks much better in hindsight than he did in 1933, 34. 35..
Wonder if Obama, Reichhhh, or Geithner have read that?

Amity has feel pretty lucky to have her book published when it was - what incredible timing.

283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:43:25am

The other day, BTW, sattv4u2, was talking about having to play the Troy Polamalu, Mean Joe Green Coke ad for the NFL the other day.

Pretty cool, huh? Because of LGF, I knew of an Superbowl ad before the "unwashed masses".

284 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:44:00am

Diffuse disasters- ice storms in, what, six or eight states?- are hard for the media to cover; and the economy and the new regime are the big stories now anyway.
Flooding in New Orleans is dramatic and easy to report.

The 1938 New England hurricane did horrific damage but it was, IIRC, the same time as the Sudetenland crisis. It got little national notice.

Glad you have power again.

285 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:47:18am

re: #284 jim in virginia

Diffuse disasters- ice storms in, what, six or eight states?- are hard for the media to cover; and the economy and the new regime are the big stories now anyway.
Flooding in New Orleans is dramatic and easy to report.

The 1938 New England hurricane did horrific damage but it was, IIRC, the same time as the Sudetenland crisis. It got little national notice.

Glad you have power again.

You're glad? My wife had about decided that she was ready to gut and field-dress someone in order to get a hot shower and to wash her hair.

Since she made the statement whilst holding a 12 inch butcher's knife, I paid rapt attention to her needs.

286 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:49:24am

re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The other day, BTW, sattv4u2, was talking about having to play the Troy Polamalu, Mean Joe Green Coke ad for the NFL the other day.

Pretty cool, huh? Because of LGF, I knew of an Superbowl ad before the "unwashed masses".

Next year I'm working on getting the final score the week before the game

287 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:50:19am

re: #286 sattv4u2

Next year I'm working on getting the final score the week before the game

Can you tell us which stocks to buy or sell?

288 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:50:47am

re: #264 cartoonboy

Today's forecast for Murray, Kentucky: Daytime high 46°, overnight low 24°.

Today's forecast for the inside of the houses of the residents of Murray, Kentucky:
Daytime high 46°, overnight low 24°.

Today's prediction for Obama's public show of concern over the plight of the 1 million plus Kentuckians suffering without power for the past week:

I have a buddy who lives about eighteen miles north of Murray. Talked to him on the cell last night. He's pretty glad that he still heats with wood and has a working well. Little bummed about not seeing the Super Bowl, though.

289 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:51:15am

re: #287 jim in virginia

Can you tell us which stocks to buy or sell?

I can, but only if you want your portfolio to look as anemic as mine does !

290 yochanan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:51:34am

re: #3 Truck Monkey

And I still want my unicorn!

[Link: www.democraticstuff.com...]

here is your unicorn

291 jim in virginia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:52:55am

Time to head out to work.
Play safe y'all.

292 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:53:10am

re: #290 yochanan

[Link: www.democraticstuff.com...]

here is your unicorn

fitting,,, the horn looks like a gigantic SCREW

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:59:51am

re: #286 sattv4u2

Hey Pal! I told folks, "You know what would be a cool commercial?..."

When it came on, whole room looks over at me....

Was great!

294 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:02:25am

re: #293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Pal! I told folks, "You know what would be a cool commercial?..."

When it came on, whole room looks over at me....

Was great!

glad I could help

295 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:04:05am

re: #248 Render


Most of the time my TV sits facing the wall, covered in dust and random computer parts.

COUPON
THIS,
R

Ya know, if you strip out the electronic innards, you can put a nice little aquarium inside the box and have an interesting program all the time.

296 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:05:09am

Today, I am going to the funeral of one of my "legions" of cousins (I think I have over 60 first cousins). Died last week.

He was severely mentally handicapped. 55 years old or so. Parents were sole caretakers for him for all of his years. I thought they'd be relieved... silly me. They are absolutely crushed.

I am relieved for his sake, parents are in their early 80's and can't live forever.

But, I am buoyed by the fact that I get to go to a funeral on Groundhog Day. A joke will run through my mind, over and over.

297 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:05:27am

re: #295 razorbacker

Ya know, if you strip out the electronic innards, you can put a nice little aquarium inside the box and have an interesting program all the time.

Dead fish floating on top isn't that interesting after an hour or so!

(don't EVEN ask how I know that!)

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:07:23am

re: #285 razorbacker

Wasn't there a congressperson nearby?

299 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:09:40am

re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wasn't there a congressperson nearby?

Naw. Wasn't a camera or microphone nearby. Lacking those, you're not too likely to see a congresscritter around, either.

300 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:11:19am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Dead fish floating on top isn't that interesting after an hour or so!

(don't EVEN ask how I know that!)

Keep angelfish and there won't be floaters for long. Nice little name for a vicious bunch of seakittys.

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:11:41am

re: #299 razorbacker

Well, in Obama's defense, Crawford is closer to AK than DC.

302 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:13:35am

Shoot that hairy, little bastard.

Six more weeks of winter, indeed.

303 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:15:02am

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, in Obama's defense, Crawford is closer to AK than DC.

I ain't mad at Obama. Like Daddy used to say, "That fellers providing all the help that he can just by staying out of the way of folks trying to work."

304 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:15:37am

re: #302 MandyManners

Shoot that hairy, little bastard.

Six more weeks of winter, indeed.

You're in good mood this morning.

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:15:51am

re: #302 MandyManners

Mandy! You were way ahead of the curve on that Octuplets lady. Called it dead on!

Stinks to high heaven, doesn't it.

306 Mithrax  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:17:01am

re: #302 MandyManners

Shoot that hairy, little bastard.

Six more weeks of winter, indeed.

But....I like winter!

307 gregg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:16am

I think people are needlessly worrying about the federal deficit growing too much. Look how much tax collections have already increased under Obama:

- Geithner : $42,702
- Daschle: $140,167 ($128,203 in back taxes and $11,964 in interest)

That's $182,869 from just two people. If you extrapolate that out, we should have a surplus by the end of the year (even with only 40% of the people paying taxes).

/

308 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:58am

re: #302 MandyManners

Shoot that hairy, little bastard.

Six more weeks of winter, indeed.

Weathermen are professional liars.

/The groundhog's cute though.

309 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:21:27am

re: #308 Sharmuta

Weathermenguessers are professional liars.

/The groundhog's cute though.

I can pretty much forecast weather for the next thirty seconds. Out past that, it gets a trifle vague. I'm pretty sure that there will be weather, though.

310 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:23:42am

Any word on when Al Gore is going to Kentucky to open his mouth and perform a little Gorebull warming. And is there any possible way we can harness all the Hotair he produces in sure we could close down 1 or maybe even 2 Nuclear Power Plants just off the energy generated by hte hot air he releases.

311 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:23:52am

Now here's something that should make everyone chuckle:

President Obama may be riding high in Washington, but OBAMA 1260 is not.

The area's only progressive talk station is changing formats, dropping such syndicated liberal hosts as Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller and Bill Press in favor of financial news, starting next week.

The move by Redskins owner Dan Snyder, who purchased the station, WWRC, and others in Washington last summer, leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet. Program Director Greg Tantum says he thought the station could work because of enthusiasm over Obama, but that ratings collapsed to a level that could not be measured after the election.

But ratings nearly doubled, he says, at Snyder's conservative station, WTNT, which features Laura Ingraham and Bill Bennett. Tantum said he will move Schultz to WTNT to give him another shot.

:[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:24:05am

re: #309 razorbacker

Easiest job in America? Weatherman in San Diego...

"Nice! Back to you Bob"....


-Lewis Black.

313 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:24:12am

re: #310 Rustler

Any word on when Al Gore is going to Kentucky to open his mouth and perform a little Gorebull warming. And is there any possible way we can harness all the Hotair he produces in sure we could close down 1 or maybe even 2 Nuclear Power Plants just off the energy generated by hte hot air he releases.

Mid August

314 Mithrax  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:24:23am

re: #309 razorbacker

I can pretty much forecast weather for the next thirty seconds. Out past that, it gets a trifle vague. I'm pretty sure that there will be weather, though.

Many moons ago, I did a 8 month stint on the east coast of Labrador (in mapquest, look up Port Hope Simpson, NL) and the locals always referred to a weather change as "getting weather".

i.e. "We're gettin some weather today" i.e. it's going to change, it's changing, it has changed, or we're hoping it'll change.

The weather was one of the biggest topics to talk about.....ever have a 3 hour serious conversation about the weather? I have.

*goes to curl up in a ball and twitch*

315 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:09am

re: #313 sattv4u2
In the middle of a heat wave likely.

316 VioletTiger  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:27:53am

re: #310 Rustler

Any word on when Al Gore is going to Kentucky to open his mouth and perform a little Gorebull warming. And is there any possible way we can harness all the Hotair he produces in sure we could close down 1 or maybe even 2 Nuclear Power Plants just off the energy generated by hte hot air he releases.


The other big rat saw his shadow this morning. Albore is gonna be cold for a while longer.

317 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:02am

re: #314 Mithrax
Ever watch the Sitcom "Yes Dear", the main character's Brother in Law can talk weather better than most Meteorologists. They had an episode where the Main Character Greg couldn't understand why hte neighbors wouldn't talk to him. Goes out gets the BiL to help him learn to bs(mostly weather related) only to find out later it's his wife driving em all away.(She was blaming him for the neighbor distance).

318 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:52am

re: #308 Sharmuta

Weathermen are professional liars.

/The groundhog's cute though.

My husband calls them weather clowns.

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:23am
320 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:23am

Wearing 2 hats at work again today. Thank god I'm only on 1 day between weekends this week. Maybe the other night shift will get stuck making breakfast tomorrow but I doubt it. Manager has no probs asking me to do 2 or 3 emloyees work in a day but noone else seems to get stuck with it.

321 razorbacker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:34:15am

re: 314 Mithrax

I sold satellite-delivered weather systems for a few years. Farmers, oil-field workers, loggers, shoot outdoor folks of all kinds are just fascinated by the weather.

Well folks, it's getting bright daylight outside. I'm going to rouse myself from this easy chair (gotta to get a new wireless router to get the wireless net back up, I miss commenting from bed) and wash up the breakfast dishes, then push the mud on the floor around a bit with a mop. While that dries I'll see if I can get the chains for the saw sharp enough so that it'll spit out chips instead of wood dust and work on clearing enough of the wife's parkland outside to brighten her mood.

Y'all be as good to each other today as your nature will allow.

322 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:34:15am

Good morning, everyone!

323 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:01am

I think everyone went back to bed.

324 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:23am

re: #322 SteveC

Good morning, everyone!

If you say so!

325 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:41am

re: #323 Bobblehead

I think everyone went back to bed.

Super Bowl Monday - everyone still drunk up from last night!

326 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:43am

I'm still lurking just more busy than usual this morning. 25 minutes left til shift change yay.

327 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:50am

re: #323 Bobblehead

I think everyone went back to bed.

Not for another 2- 2 1/2 hours for me!

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:40:47am

Quiet here. Too quiet.

The drums have stopped. The birds have stopped singing. And the crickets are also silent.

Like just before an attack.

329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:40:58am

BOO!

330 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:17am

re: #325 SteveC

Super Bowl Monday - everyone still drunk up from last night!

Did you see the Steelers' owner thank Obama? When I heard that I thought WTF? I'm a Steelers girl but that old coot's comment almost made me wish the Cardinals had won.

331 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:38am

re: #321 razorbacker

re: 314 Mithrax

I sold satellite-delivered weather systems for a few years. Farmers, oil-field workers, loggers, shoot outdoor folks of all kinds are just fascinated by the weather.

Well folks, it's getting bright daylight outside. I'm going to rouse myself from this easy chair (gotta to get a new wireless router to get the wireless net back up, I miss commenting from bed) and wash up the breakfast dishes, then push the mud on the floor around a bit with a mop. While that dries I'll see if I can get the chains for the saw sharp enough so that it'll spit out chips instead of wood dust and work on clearing enough of the wife's parkland outside to brighten her mood.

Y'all be as good to each other today as your nature will allow.

Good Morning Lizards ...

razor ...That would be us ...we live and die by the weather ...we have so many satellite weather things I lost count ...we need to know as far in advance so we can get our workers lined up for working in the fields or in our grading sheds ...we can lose everything from a freeze ...mother nature can be so cruel at times ...it is the worst when it warms up and things begin to bud and then a freeze comes ...so far this year we are doing good ...

Congrats to all Steelers fans ...

332 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:38am

re: #329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BOO!

EEK! *runs*

333 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:39am

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Quiet here. Too quiet.

The drums have stopped. The birds have stopped singing. And the crickets are also silent.

Like just before an attack.

Maybe I shouldn't have had that 4th cup of coffee!

334 Mithrax  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:52am

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Quiet here. Too quiet.

The drums have stopped. The birds have stopped singing. And the crickets are also silent.

Like just before an attack.

Here you Go, drums.

335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:45:37am

re: #330 Bobblehead

Did you see the Steelers' owner thank Obama? When I heard that I thought WTF? I'm a Steelers girl but that old coot's comment almost made me wish the Cardinals had won.

They're buddies. Obama even said he was rooting for the Steelers. Whatever.

I don't know of anything (in the political ideology spectrum) that bothers me more than "entitlement" rich Democrats with teams of tax lawyers.

336 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:46:15am

re: #330 Bobblehead

Did you see the Steelers' owner thank Obama? When I heard that I thought WTF? I'm a Steelers girl but that old coot's comment almost made me wish the Cardinals had won.

No, I tend to skip the pregame and post game - it's just canned BS. When the foot hits the ball on the opening kickoff, then I pay attention.

WTF did he thank Big O for? Try thanking the coaching staff and players. Thank the guy who comes in at 5:30 AM on Game Day and unlocks the gates and throws the main power switch. Thanks the taxpayers of Pittsburgh who built that Chapel to the Gods of Football.

337 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:47:20am

Good morning, lizards!

Checked the bank account this morning, and it looks like I'm still poor.

But I have great faith that everything will be coming up roses, just as soon as the stimulus package passes and the refundable tax credits start rolling in.

/do I?

338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:48:36am

re: #337 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose!

339 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:04am

re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Rose!


Hiya, FBV!

340 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:50am

re: #337 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards!

Checked the bank account this morning, and it looks like I'm still poor.

But I have great faith that everything will be coming up roses, just as soon as the stimulus package passes and the refundable tax credits start rolling in.

/do I?

Ummm.... I really hate to tell you this.... but all you are getting is a Unicorn who farts rainbows. The rainbows are 87% Methane (Pollution fines!) and Unicorn food ain't cheap.

/You've been Obamabamboozeled!

341 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:50:59am

re: #340 SteveC

You failed to note the / at the end of my post.
Have another cup of coffee.

342 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:28am

re: #341 Irish Rose

You failed to note the / at the end of my post.
Have another cup of coffee.

he saw it. he had one at the nd of his!

343 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:41am

re: #337 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards!

Checked the bank account this morning, and it looks like I'm still poor.

But I have great faith that everything will be coming up roses, just as soon as the stimulus package passes and the refundable tax credits start rolling in.

/do I?

No need to file. Just tell the IRS that you're applying for a position on Obama's team and paying your taxes would be an impediment to your job prospects.

344 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:01am

re: #341 Irish Rose

You failed to note the / at the end of my post.
Have another cup of coffee.

Just tuggin' your chain! :) Good Morning!

345 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:19am

Good morning, lizards.

The University of Notre Dame has more than its fair share of moonbats, but at least they have their head on straight when it comes to Darwin and evolution: newsinfo.nd.edu...]>Notre Dame to mark Darwin’s birthday, anniversary of his book on theory of evolution

. Quite a line-up of events.

346 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:53am

re: #343 Bobblehead
But all postions at treasury have been filled. He is still looking at A couple mobsters to put in charge at justice maybe start a new RIKO czar. An word is Michael Phelps is being concidered for Drug Czar.

347 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:46am

re: #346 Rustler

An word is Michael Phelps is being concidered for Drug Czar.

Well, at least he's going with those who have experience!

348 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:03am

re: #337 Irish Rose

Morning, Rose! Me too, but Jenny G. has got our backs here in MI so we'll be fine.

349 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:32am

I'm a Steeler fan from birth, but I sure wish the win yesterday weren't tainted by some bad sportsmanship. Here's a tip of my hat to Kurt Warner, who, in addition to being a superb QB, is also a class act.

350 Rustler  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:46am

re: #347 SteveC Yeah he was gonna go with the Meth Addict on 5th and Pennsylvania but figured Phelps at least brings his name to the position.

351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:56:18am

re: #347 SteveC

Let him with a free carburetor finger cast the first stone.
/

352 phoenixgirl  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:24am

re: #349 godfrey

I'm a Steeler fan from birth, but I sure wish the win yesterday weren't tainted by some bad sportsmanship. Here's a tip of my hat to Kurt Warner, who, in addition to being a superb QB, is also a class act.

GODFREY!

353 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:42am

re: #351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let him with a free carburetor finger cast the first stone.
/

FBV ...are you not traveling this week? ...

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:04am

re: #352 phoenixgirl

Sorry about last night there, girl.

355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:44am

re: #353 JacksonTn

Cutbacks. I'm as poor as an Obama relative.

356 phoenixgirl  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:48am

re: #354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry about last night there, girl.

well, that interception didn't help...not to mention the penalties.....but they have nothing to be ashamed of...it was a great game : (

357 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:05:33am

re: #356 phoenixgirl

I was rootin for the Cards....had no ponies in the race so I always tend to go for the underdog for the heck of it. Thought they played with a lot of heart and had mine going near the end.

On a side note....Nothing like the POTUS calling you out on National TV that you are fat! Sheesh! that was despicable

358 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:05:44am

Hello PG. Wonderful day here, just wish it weren't so infested with adults who sang "hey hey hey na na (whatever) goodbye!" to GWB and then get giddy each time they tell about it.

359 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:06:43am

re: #357 kawfytawk

The O called somebody fat on national TV?

360 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:07:35am

re: #357 kawfytawk

re: #359 godfrey

The O called somebody fat on national TV?

Oprah?
Al Gore?
Bill Richardson !?!?!?!?

361 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:08:15am

re: #359 godfrey

yea...in his interview with Matt Lauer....said Jessica Simpson was losing a battle with fat....paraphrasing as I cannot remember actual quote....someone left a link with video tho

362 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:08:35am

re: #39 zombie

That is just going to have to change. We will have to spread the horizon around. Hopenchange you know.

363 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:08:44am

re: #357 kawfytawk

I was rootin for the Cards....had no ponies in the race so I always tend to go for the underdog for the heck of it. Thought they played with a lot of heart and had mine going near the end.

On a side note....Nothing like the POTUS calling you out on National TV that you are fat! Sheesh! that was despicable

kawfytawk ...He is an idiot ...no class ...she is not fat ...wonder if he would have said that if they were talking about Beyonce ...

364 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:09:26am

Who is Jessica Simpson, and why is the O paying attention to her body fat?

/curiouser and curiouser

365 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:09:26am

I'm on of those "working poor" that Barry wants to liberate. I'm a single mom and an older worker, nearly 50. I work 20-25 hours per week for just slightly above minimum wage, and I feel lucky to have the job that I have when so many people around me are not working.

I pay payroll taxes but don't owe any income taxes, because we live below the poverty line.

I have one child still at home to provide for, a daughter that I'm putting through college, a monthly health insurance premium and a mortgage to pay. I do it all on less than 11,000 per year.

If I quit working today and went back on food stamps and medicaid, we'd be doing a lot better for ourselves. I prefer to work, though, and I will never go that route again.

Having lived this way for a while I can tell you that some of Barrys' ideas are workable and necessary, to help poor families provide for their families' most basic needs and get off the public teat.

It's too bad that the good ideas are attached to such a massive, pork-laden, socialist monstrosity.

366 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:09:53am

re: #359 godfrey

The O called somebody fat on national TV?

"I won."

"Don't listen to Rush."

"Fat."

Only 3 years, 11 months of this shit to go, hopefully.

367 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:02am
368 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:10am

re: #361 kawfytawk

About a woman? What a tool.

369 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:54am

re: #364 godfrey

Jessica Simpson is a singer who is/was dating Tony Romo

370 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:58am

re: #348 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, Rose! Me too, but Jenny G. has got our backs here in MI so we'll be fine.

Indeed.
Unemployment figures down near Detroit are right around 15 percent, last I heard. Close to 11 percent statewide.

371 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:11:25am

re: #364 godfrey

Who is Jessica Simpson, and why is the O paying attention to her body fat?

/curiouser and curiouser

I mean, like does he have more important things on his plate?

372 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:11:35am

re: #367 kawfytawk

here it is...seekeroftruth posted it earlier

Class act all the way?

373 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:12:08am

re: #349 godfrey

I'm a Steeler fan from birth, but I sure wish the win yesterday weren't tainted by some bad sportsmanship. Here's a tip of my hat to Kurt Warner, who, in addition to being a superb QB, is also a class act.

James Harrison should have been ejected...thats the rule....throw a punch you're gone

374 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:12:18am

re: #359 godfrey

The O called somebody fat on national TV?

Made a snide comment about Jessica Simpson. Listen for yourself.
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

375 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:12:26am

re: #368 Lincolntf

yeah...people poo pooed me about the lipstick on a pig remark and the flip offs disguised as face scratches but this man is an egotist beyond all I have ever seen

376 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:13:05am

Good Morning!

I haven't seen "The Shadow Do" on yet. Is that a good sign?

377 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:13:10am

re: #371 SteveC

I mean, like does he have more important things on his plate?

Umm, like a $100.00 steak?

378 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:13:40am

Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of Obama?

379 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:13:53am

re: #371 SteveC

I mean, like does he have more important things on his plate?

SteveC ...kinda tells you what he reads ...no friggin class ...

380 phoenixgirl  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:13:55am

did anyone notice in the 3 d commercial for the new movie "aliens vs monsters" , one of the aliens looked like the potus?

381 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:14:12am

re: #377 Dustyvet

Umm, like a $100.00 steak?

Ummmm.... Steak.... ahhhhhhhh.

/Homer Simpson

Morning Dusty!

382 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:14:48am

re: #381 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ummmm.... Steak.... ahhhhhhhh.

/Homer Simpson

Morning Dusty!

Morning LT...:)

383 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:09am

re: #373 albusteve

James Harrison should have been ejected...thats the rule....throw a punch you're gone

Ah it was a penny ante foul. Poor sportsmanship but penny ante. I was more upset Obama's name kept coming up in reference to the Steelers.

384 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:22am

re: #380 phoenixgirl

did anyone notice in the 3 d commercial for the new movie "aliens vs monsters" , one of the aliens looked like the potus?

THAT'S IT! $5 on the monsters! *Throws bill on table*

385 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:42am

re: #382 Dustyvet

Rumor has it it is supposed to get up to 50 today... I'm going out to tan, how 'bout you?

386 ThinkRight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:46am

re: #378 SteveC

Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of Obama?


?
I am not sure but I do know it ain't gonna be good for us

387 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:55am

Worst superbowl commercials of all time.

388 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:16:01am

re: #365 Irish Rose

What would be the most useful thing government could do for you?

From where I stand, one good thing would be to get out of the way of creative, risk-taking capitalists who could then go on to create new jobs in local economies.

389 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:16:24am

re: #384 SteveC

THAT'S IT! $5 on the monsters! *Throws bill on table*

Dead ringer... looked just like Obama, but with four eyes.

390 phoenixgirl  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:17:13am

at :35 the alien looks like the potus imho

391 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:17:21am

re: #387 Nevergiveup

Worst superbowl commercials of all time.

They stank. Great game, too bad for the Cards, should have burned more time in their last drive... commercials blew and way too many "watch this NBC POS show" ones.

392 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:17:23am

re: #385 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Rumor has it it is supposed to get up to 50 today... I'm going out to tan, how 'bout you?

I would, but our Building Manager won't allow sun bathing on the lawn...:(

393 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:17:36am

re: #387 Nevergiveup

Worst superbowl commercials of all time.

Except for Budweiser. The ones with the Clydesdale were charming.

394 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:18:01am

re: #372 Nevergiveup

He's a real piece of work.

I sometimes wonder, if all these appointments with questionable to illegal dealings, stimulus, guantanamo closing etc etc... he is not just throwing it all up in the air to have everyone chasing it down just to slide something major in the backdoor before, we the people, notice

395 SteveC  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:18:25am

re: #388 godfrey

What would be the most useful thing government could do for you?

From where I stand, one good thing would be to get out of the way of creative, risk-taking capitalists who could then go on to create new jobs in local economies.

Yeah, nice idea... but HE WON, remember.

396 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:18:47am

re: #387 Nevergiveup

I have to say...loved the etrade babies

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:19:23am

re: #396 kawfytawk

I have to say...loved the etrade babies



"HIGH LIFE!"

398 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:19:30am

re: #389 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Dead ringer... looked just like Obama, but with four eyes.

Thats an insult to the alien!

399 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:19:36am

re: #396 kawfytawk

I have to say...loved the etrade babies

Those, too, were cute.

400 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:03am

re: #396 kawfytawk

I have to say...loved the etrade babies

I might have peed thru that one?

401 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:09am

re: #375 kawfytawk

That "lipstick on a pig" remark (and the resulting non-outrage from the fems/networks) was one of the first times I knew that the media was going to reach a new low in sycophancy. Everyone knows he was obliquely calling Gov. Palin a pig.

402 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:13am

re: #383 Nevergiveup

Ah it was a penny ante foul. Poor sportsmanship but penny ante. I was more upset Obama's name kept coming up in reference to the Steelers.

throwing punches is not penny ante...some steeler DB did it on the sidelines too...at least he got a penalty for it....penny ante was the roughing the passer call againt the Cards in the third qtr...that was bs for 15yds...

403 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:18am

re: #392 Dustyvet

I would, but our Building Manager won't allow sun bathing on the lawn...:(

He's interfering with your Right to nude sunbathing? Take him to court!

404 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:35am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ijust love that guy...saw him on leno...they showed the commercial there...and the bloopers...funny

405 rexmundi  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:52am
Morality has nothing in common with politics.

— Bob Dylan

And I also like:

"Religion has nothing to do with morality"
-My philosophy professor

406 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:57am

re: #398 sattv4u2

Thats an insult to the alien!

But he did have four eyes...

407 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:21:07am

re: #391 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They stank. Great game, too bad for the Cards, should have burned more time in their last drive... commercials blew and way too many "watch this NBC POS show" ones.

exctly...they were not running the clock down on every play....

408 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:21:48am

Oh, Obama/Lauer interview. I just watched the end, where he comments. He said Simpson is "in a weight battle." I don't think any slight was intended there. He was commenting in a way on why his photo was covered up on the cover by the Simpson story. "Weight battles" being standard tabloid fare.

What I find weird is his saying that his being covered up was "hurtful" -- he didn't say it with a wink. Does he really think his photo being covered up is "hurtful"? Someone please tell me the C in C did not just say on national television that some tabloid cover hurt his feewings.

409 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:22:33am

re: #407 albusteve

exctly...they were not running the clock down on every play....

First thing I said to the wife when they scored that great TD... "There's too much time left on the clock."

/If I noticed, being a football neophyte, it had to be obvious.

410 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:22:37am

re: #401 Lincolntf

I knew it was....I have seen this type of man before...complete with the elbow jabs and winks....but when I told some of my friends (obamites) they said I was reading too much into it....frustrating

411 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:23:12am

re: #402 albusteve

throwing punches is not penny ante...some steeler DB did it on the sidelines too...at least he got a penalty for it....penny ante was the roughing the passer call againt the Cards in the third qtr...that was bs for 15yds...

Yeah, I thought alot of the calls were bullshit. It really isn't right when the officials dominate the game like that. But all in all it was a pretty good game. Except how the numbers came out at the end of each quarter for all those bums who were in a pool. Not that I was?

412 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:24:09am

re: #408 godfrey

Oh, Obama/Lauer interview. I just watched the end, where he comments. He said Simpson is "in a weight battle." I don't think any slight was intended there. He was commenting in a way on why his photo was covered up on the cover by the Simpson story. "Weight battles" being standard tabloid fare.

What I find weird is his saying that his being covered up was "hurtful" -- he didn't say it with a wink. Does he really think his photo being covered up is "hurtful"? Someone please tell me the C in C did not just say on national television that some tabloid cover hurt his feewings.

I think that whole exchange sums up the entire depth and concerns of Obama.

413 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:24:21am

OT:

HGH or not, I will applaud the effort.
*Clap* *Clap*

414 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:25:01am

Consider yourself a passenger in your fathers brand new car, and your 16-year brothers at the wheel with a learners permit....and the speedometer just climbed passed 85 MPH...And your on a mountain road.

415 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:25:14am

re: #408 godfrey

I disagree....speaking of Jessica WAS in context to the conversation...the remark and subsequent giggle he and Lauer shared was BS

416 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:25:17am

re: #412 karmic_inquisitor

Obama is running the White House like it's a college dorm pot-smokin BS party. Wake me up when it's over.

417 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:25:57am

re: #403 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

He's interfering with your Right to nude sunbathing? Take him to court!

He's a she, and you'd love the "other " rules she's got in place...

418 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:29am

re: #416 godfrey

Obama is running the White House like it's a college dorm pot-smokin BS party. Wake me up when it's over.

He has never left college.

His adult life is college.

419 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:38am

re: #411 Nevergiveup

Yeah, I thought alot of the calls were bullshit. It really isn't right when the officials dominate the game like that. But all in all it was a pretty good game. Except how the numbers came out at the end of each quarter for all those bums who were in a pool. Not that I was?

easily one of the best ever....I had 21 pts over two bets and won 400$....some boob gave Realwest 14 pts...I wouldve borrowed money for that bet...pools are just for fun...and they are especially at a party

420 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:48am

re: #410 kawfytawk

I knew it was....I have seen this type of man before...complete with the elbow jabs and winks....but when I told some of my friends (obamites) they said I was reading too much into it....frustrating

Good morning people!
I get that exact comment from Obamites myself. Word for word.
I think it might be the new catch phrase!

I recently got an e-mail with a "LOLcat" type caption, where Obama is shown with both thumbs up, and the caption reads "I've got this covered".

I replied "I'm not sure how to take that".
The reply was literally "Your'e reading too much into it".

I'm still not sure how to take that.

421 opnion  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:53am

Good morning Lizards. Day fourteen, America held hostage!

422 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:56am

re: #408 godfrey

re: #412 karmic_inquisitor

Has anyone from the MSM asked this empty suit(less,, new Oval Office dress code , ya know) about the people in NEED in fly over country?

423 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:27:11am

re: #415 kawfytawk

I think they were chuckling over the tabloidiness. The O finally gave it the "oh well" of unconcern, which thank God he did.

424 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:27:17am

re: #417 Dustyvet

He's a she, and you'd love the "other " rules she's got in place...

I'll ask, but I have my hunch, Obama voter?

425 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:27:40am

re: #424 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll ask, but I have my hunch, Obama voter?

Yuppers...

426 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:28:14am

IAEA head: Enough time to address Iran bomb concern
Nuclear watchdog chief says even if Tehran decides to eject inspectors, leave Non-Proliferation Treaty, reconfigure production to refine uranium to degree needed, process will take between two to five years. 'There is a concern, but don't hype concern,' he says

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Yeah, because you have right so many times in the past?

427 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:29:33am

re: #419 albusteve

easily one of the best ever....I had 21 pts over two bets and won 400$....some boob gave Realwest 14 pts...I wouldve borrowed money for that bet...pools are just for fun...and they are especially at a party

I had the worst numbers. I needed like 3 safeties to even be in the ball park

428 opnion  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:29:50am

re: #415 kawfytawk

I disagree....speaking of Jessica WAS in context to the conversation...the remark and subsequent giggle he and Lauer shared was BS

The comment of the interview to me was, "Peopole think that I'm cool....."
I have noticed when peopole just don't get it, their attitude is often misconstrued as cool.

429 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:30:00am

re: #422 sattv4u2

re: #412 karmic_inquisitor

Has anyone from the MSM asked this empty suit(less,, new Oval Office dress code , ya know) about the people in NEED in fly over country?

Message from Democrats to Americans -

Don't get stuck on stupid hypocrisy.

430 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:30:10am

re: #408 godfrey

Oh, Obama/Lauer interview. I just watched the end, where he comments. He said Simpson is "in a weight battle." I don't think any slight was intended there. He was commenting in a way on why his photo was covered up on the cover by the Simpson story. "Weight battles" being standard tabloid fare.

What I find weird is his saying that his being covered up was "hurtful" -- he didn't say it with a wink. Does he really think his photo being covered up is "hurtful"? Someone please tell me the C in C did not just say on national television that some tabloid cover hurt his feewings.

i didn't see the interview but this kind of behavior would be in keeping w/ a pathological narcissist. they are so all consumed w/ themselves, they have no idea a statement like this, might be inappropriate or flat out nuts.

431 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:30:15am

re: #425 Dustyvet

Yuppers...

So be careful, if you don't follow the rules, you'll be reported to the nearest Community Organizer, at which point your life will become a living hell.

432 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:30:22am

re: #420 jwb7605

exactly....problem is ....they haven't seen enough regarding the O, and frankly, I think they might be a little afraid to delve any deeper...because they would be forced to give up that rainbow they clutch

433 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:30:53am

re: #427 Nevergiveup

I had the worst numbers. I needed like 3 safeties to even be in the ball park

darn safeties ruin everything

434 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:31:16am

re: #432 kawfytawk

exactly....problem is ....they haven't seen enough regarding the O, and frankly, I think they might be a little afraid to delve any deeper...because they would be forced to give up that rainbow they clutch

kawfytawk ...EXACTLY ...

435 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:31:29am

re: #426 Nevergiveup

IAEA head: Enough time to address Iran bomb concern
Nuclear watchdog chief says even if Tehran decides to eject inspectors, leave Non-Proliferation Treaty, reconfigure production to refine uranium to degree needed, process will take between two to five years. 'There is a concern, but don't hype concern,' he says

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Yeah, because you have right so many times in the past?

And all I keep hearing from the politicians is "10 years away" on oil... that was 25 years ago for me... (6 years old at the time), I am sure it is older than that.

436 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:31:49am

I don't trust men in high position who are uncomfortable with the trappings of authority and power. It's either deceitful or careless.

437 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:32:44am

re: #393 Bobblehead

Except for Budweiser. The ones with the Clydesdale were charming.

Even Bud had a stinker, the one making fun of ski injuries.

438 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:32:55am

re: #423 godfrey

I dunno....we will see....I think his good buddy Oprah might have a different take on it....but TRUST me....women do not want to have their weight discussed in a tabloid, at the WH, on TV or in their own home unless they themselves bring it up....and then it better be ...."you look great just the way you are"

439 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:33:11am

re: #431 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So be careful, if you don't follow the rules, you'll be reported to the nearest Community Organizer, at which point your life will become a living hell.

Oh how well I know that story...:(

440 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:33:17am

Time to look at WND about some idiot down in Florida posting legislation to building six Big civilian detention centers.
How's that Supra-Highway start still proceding over-down in Texas these days, btw...?

441 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:33:18am

re: #436 godfrey

I don't trust men in high position who are uncomfortable with the trappings of authority and power. It's either deceitful or careless.

nice Godfreyism

442 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:33:19am

re: #430 nyc redneck

i didn't see the interview but this kind of behavior would be in keeping w/ a pathological narcissist. they are so all consumed w/ themselves, they have no idea a statement like this, might be inappropriate or flat out nuts.

Well there is a bright side.

A pathological narcissist will ultimately reject and abuse those who show him love and adulation and will obsessively seek the approval of those who don't find him special.

So Obama should be kissing our asses big time in the coming months.

443 notutopia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:33:29am

Good morning.
Anyone in Tucson get this cable feed during the superbowl?

Station says porn clip interrupted Super Bowl

[Link: www.google.com...]

444 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:34:21am
445 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:34:23am

re: #430 nyc redneck

Obama wants to be considered an Everyman. He might as well hang a sign on the USA that says "kick me."

446 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:34:24am

re: #388 godfrey

What would be the most useful thing government could do for you?

From where I stand, one good thing would be to get out of the way of creative, risk-taking capitalists who could then go on to create new jobs in local economies.

More jobs, better pay, and rewarding individuals who choose work over dependency.

Those jobs are not going to magically appear though, until we make it a priority to reward businesses and companies that create jobs and choose to keep their businesses here at home, and create incentives for those who have moved their businesses out of the country to bring them back in.

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:35:01am

While I hate when singers "scat-out" the National Anthem, I thought Jennifer Hudson's verstion was stunning (mebbe a tad, over the top), but stunning.

What a voice.

I don't care that it was lip synched.

448 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:35:17am

re: #440 claspur

Time to look at WND about some idiot down in Florida posting legislation to building six Big civilian detention centers.
How's that Supra-Highway start still proceding over-down in Texas these days, btw...?

it's dead for now

449 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:35:56am

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

she was wonderful....Bless her heart...after such a tragedy....I would still be curled up in a corner

450 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:36:37am

re: #432 kawfytawk

exactly....problem is ....they haven't seen enough regarding the O, and frankly, I think they might be a little afraid to delve any deeper...because they would be forced to give up that rainbow they clutch

Yesterday I was helping a friend with a computer problem.
I noticed a photo on her book shelf, and said "is that Obama?"
The friend replied "Yeah, somebody gave it to me, and I thought it would be impolite not to display it".
I replied "I'd be impolite. I disagree with him on nearly every position".
My friend said "like what, for instance?"
I said "abortion. Voting in favor of late term abortions while in the Illinois senate is not something that's above my pay grade".
My friend said "what? I didn't know that."
I said "I bet there's a lot of things you don't know. I usually research voting records."

Since we're friends, that conversation terminated pretty fast. I could have gotten into gun control, cutting the military etc. but I'm not Walter.

451 opnion  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:36:56am

This has no doubt been discussed , but Art Rooney thaankin Obama at the triophy presentation could not have been more inappropriate.
Thank him for what? Obama let you go all around Western PA. to get him votes?

452 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:37:05am

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

While I hate when singers "scat-out" the National Anthem, I thought Jennifer Hudson's verstion was stunning (mebbe a tad, over the top), but stunning.

What a voice.

I don't care that it was lip synched.

lip synced?...really....I wonder why

453 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:37:11am

re: #426 Nevergiveup
A timeline of expertise on the Iranian nuke program, as derived from statements made over the last ten or so years:

-There is no nuclear program in Iran.
-Okay, there is one, but it's at a 1950's level and hopelessly outmoded.
-Well now they have a nuclear program, but it's solely for research.
-Okay it's a little bigger now, but it is designed towards energy production.
-Okay, they have a few centrifuges, but it'll take decades for them to create enough enriched material.
-Ummm, now they have thousands of centrifuges, but a bomb is still well beyond their capability.
-They'll have a bomb in 5 years, at worst.

There is really only way to think that this list will end and it's gonna be with a boom.

454 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:37:14am

re: #439 Dustyvet

Oh how well I know that story...:(

Is the building a "gun free zone", too?

455 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:38:02am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


"HIGH LIFE!"

That guy (the Miller High Life delivery guy) is from Fort Worth, and has a master's degree. He thought he would play football for a living, but his high school drama teacher changed his life. Wish I could find that news story again...

456 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:38:16am

re: #450 jwb7605

I know ...there is just sooooo much. When I speak of it...I almost think I am making it up....unbelievable!

457 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:38:54am

re: #446 Irish Rose

I wish you well, Irish Rose. You are not taking the easy way out, and that approach is what made this country prosperous and great.

One of the things I'd like to see the feds do is mandate a course in basic economics as part of the public high school curriculum. Bring entrepreneurs into the schools to talk to kids, not these buffoons who hold up condoms and smile or ridiculous "motivational speakers" who actually know nothing but fine-sounding platitudes.

Give students knowledge, tools, and freedom, and they will create new wealth.

458 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:38:55am

re: #453 Lincolntf

A timeline of expertise on the Iranian nuke program, as derived from statements made over the last ten or so years:

-There is no nuclear program in Iran.
-Okay, there is one, but it's at a 1950's level and hopelessly outmoded.
-Well now they have a nuclear program, but it's solely for research.
-Okay it's a little bigger now, but it is designed towards energy production.
-Okay, they have a few centrifuges, but it'll take decades for them to create enough enriched material.
-Ummm, now they have thousands of centrifuges, but a bomb is still well beyond their capability.
-They'll have a bomb in 5 years, at worst.

There is really only way to think that this list will end and it's gonna be with a boom.

I pray that 'boom' comes via Israel smacking them forward to the stone-age.

459 Macker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:39:05am

re: #47 logboy

I know where the sun sets in mid July. Right now thats all I care about.

//I'm gonna kick Al Gore's global warming little big ass.

There, fixed that for ya!

460 Macker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:39:39am

re: #445 godfrey

Obama wants to be considered an Everyman. He might as well hang a sign on the USA that says "kick me."

That's what he did the second he took office.

461 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:39:50am

re: #458 Oh no...Sand People!

Me too.

462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:40:12am

re: #452 albusteve

lip synced?...really....I wonder why

I'm sure you know this, however, there may be som folks who don't.

They have to lip-sync versions of the National Anthem that include instrumentation, echo effect screws everything up.

463 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:40:18am

Good morning y'all - from a chilly (39 degrees, going up to 59 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

464 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:40:45am

re: #460 Macker

That's what he did the second he took office.

Yeah, we have a giant "KICK ME" sign on our back now. Thanks alot, Hussein.

465 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:40:54am

mornin RW....how are ya?

466 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:40:55am

re: #454 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Is the building a "gun free zone", too?

At our lease signings yearly, we are asked if we have a "FOIDS" card. I've been tempted to answer yes, and see where she takes it.

467 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:41:07am

re: #463 realwest

Morning RW.

468 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:41:19am

re: #437 Alouette

Even Bud had a stinker, the one making fun of ski injuries.

They should stick with the horses. BTW.. I still miss the Budweiser frogs and lizards.

469 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:41:22am

re: #463 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a chilly (39 degrees, going up to 59 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Morning Real!

Doing fine, we might make it up to 50 from 22 today.

How's yourself?

470 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:41:32am

Morning RW...

471 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:41:38am

re: #448 albusteve

The Highway? Heard the FEDS threatened them with highway tax funding on Tejas' refusal to cease building. (about 5 months ago)

The Prison Camps...that's coming....*sigh

472 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:16am

Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) & Dustyvet

Are you two the resident gun experts? If so I have a question

473 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:21am

re: #462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm sure you know this, however, there may be som folks who don't.

They have to lip-sync versions of the National Anthem that include instrumentation, echo effect screws everything up.

I didnt see it....did Springsteen lip synch?....didnt see him either

474 WriterMom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:24am

re: #436 godfrey

I don't trust men with hairplugs, or men that have more highlights than I do.

475 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:29am

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

While I hate when singers "scat-out" the National Anthem, I thought Jennifer Hudson's verstion was stunning (mebbe a tad, over the top), but stunning.

What a voice.

I don't care that it was lip synched.

Considering what she's been through in the last couple of months, I cut her some slack.

476 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:36am

re: #466 Dustyvet

At our lease signings yearly, we are asked if we have a "FOIDS" card. I've been tempted to answer yes, and see where she takes it.

Did you add her to your PTSD application with the VA?

If I were living under that regime, I'd lose it.

477 notutopia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:40am

May everyone have the best day possible!
BBL, off to the MD's for the annual probe, prod and boob press.
: )

478 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:46am

re: #453 Lincolntf

It's terrifying to think about, but what will the EUniks do if Iran nukes Tel Aviv? My guess is that they will make disapproving noises, send some money, and breathe a private sanctimonious sigh of relief.

It's enough to make anyone puke.

479 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:43:05am

re: #472 kawfytawk

Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) & Dustyvet

Are you two the resident gun experts? If so I have a question

There are a lot of experts on LGF, ask away...

480 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:43:18am

Negotiations held in Cairo over a truce have encountered some difficulties and the armed factions in Gaza have received instructions to prepare for a possible renewal of the fighting with Israel, Palestinian sources in the Strip told Ynet.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Maybe because their all a bunch of homicidal maniacs?

481 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:43:23am

re: #468 Bobblehead

They should stick with the horses. BTW.. I still miss the Budweiser frogs and lizards.

I liked the Doritos crystal ball commercial. "Promotion? Not in your future."

482 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:43:31am

re: #452 albusteve

lip synced?...really....I wonder why

A hundred reasons!
At a live event like that, the stage mic, whether wireless or wired can go bad.
The crowd noise on the field would get into that mic.
The singer would hear herself coming back thru the PA system and get screwed up.
They can control the audio levels (natural crowd sound balanced with the music) better
Just to name a few

483 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:44:11am

re: #437 Alouette

Even Bud had a stinker, the one making fun of ski injuries.

Huh? Are you talking about the Bud Light commercial where they are sitting on the deck at the ski lodge? I don't think they were making fun of ski injuries. If you found that commercial offensive you are just looking for things to offend you.

484 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:44:18am

re: #478 godfrey

It's terrifying to think about, but what will the EUniks do if Iran nukes Tel Aviv? My guess is that they will make disapproving noises, send some money, and breathe a private sanctimonious sigh of relief.

It's enough to make anyone puke.

They will indeed send money - to Iran.

485 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:44:18am

re: #471 claspur

The Highway? Heard the FEDS threatened them with highway tax funding on Tejas' refusal to cease building. (about 5 months ago)

The Prison Camps...that's coming....*sigh

TFK keeps close track on the highway...the Texas house shut it down for now

486 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:44:22am

re: #473 albusteve

I didnt see it....did Springsteen lip synch?....didnt see him either

I don't think so. He changed the wording of "Glory Days" to fit the superbowl theme. I could almost tolerate watching him for a change, and he stayed off politics (also a change).

487 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:45:04am

re: #479 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I am going to get my very first hand gun. Since I have never used one before I was wondering if there were gun stores that let you try them out to see if it is something doable for me? ....

488 Macker  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:45:49am

re: #481 Ward Cleaver

OWIE.

489 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:45:51am

re: #472 kawfytawk

Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) & Dustyvet

Are you two the resident gun experts? If so I have a question

Last weapon I owned was in 1986, when I was doing security work. I purchased an S&W Model 32 satin finish .357 Magnum. It's not a side arm, it's a frigging Howitzer...:)

490 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:46:48am

re: #489 Dustyvet

well I want one that will take the fight out of an assailant....BUT I don't want one that is too big for me

491 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:46:59am

Lynch assures he'd appoint (R) to replace Gregg
—Purple Avenger

The check is in the mail, I promise to respect you in the morning, etc, etc.

...Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader in the Senate, said he has Gregg's assurances that New Hampshire Gov. John Lynch would appoint a Republican to Gregg's seat....

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Translation: get out the Vaseline!

492 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:47:05am

re: #483 kcladderman

Huh? Are you talking about the Bud Light commercial where they are sitting on the deck at the ski lodge? I don't think they were making fun of ski injuries. If you found that commercial offensive you are just looking for things to offend you.

Drawing a tree and a guy crashed into the cartoon tree is not teh funny, but, whatever.

493 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #485 albusteve

No, Steve, I was semi-aware of that. What's the status of Texas and the FEDS threat of state funding to the state though?

494 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #457 godfrey

I wish you well, Irish Rose. You are not taking the easy way out, and that approach is what made this country prosperous and great.

One of the things I'd like to see the feds do is mandate a course in basic economics as part of the public high school curriculum. Bring entrepreneurs into the schools to talk to kids, not these buffoons who hold up condoms and smile or ridiculous "motivational speakers" who actually know nothing but fine-sounding platitudes.

Give students knowledge, tools, and freedom, and they will create new wealth.

I was talking to my sister yesterday who is a teacher and use to be very liberal. She has had it with the school system and says she can barely spend time on kids that speak English because she has to give X amount of extra time to non English speaking kids. She says she makes them say the Pledge of Alligiance every day and many of them complain about it. She calls them all "Americans" and they don't like that either. I'm glad she is seeing the light.

495 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:47:45am

Prosecutor looks at ways to put Israeli officers on trial for Gaza 'war crimes'

The International Criminal Court is exploring ways to prosecute Israeli commanders over alleged war crimes in Gaza.

The alleged crimes include the use of deadly white phosphorus in densely populated civilian areas, as revealed in an investigation by The Times last month. Israel initially denied using the controversial weapon, which causes horrific burns, but was forced later, in the face of mounting evidence, to admit to having deployed it.

496 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:47:53am

re: #486 jwb7605

I don't think so. He changed the wording of "Glory Days" to fit the superbowl theme. I could almost tolerate watching him for a change, and he stayed off politics (also a change).

yeah I don't like him, but at least he did stay apolitical. Actually I was surprised.

497 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:47:59am

re: #486 jwb7605

Springsteen is a preening narcissist. I don't believe his working class schtick for a second.

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:48:02am

re: #473 albusteve

Springsteen has the set up to perform live in a stadium...they have more set up and tear down time than a National Anthem singer. Plus, hell, how long has Bruce been playing stadiums.

Jennifer was beautiful, her rendition was amazing. And she has been thru some really bad stuff lately.

499 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:48:15am

re: #487 kawfytawk

I am going to get my very first hand gun. Since I have never used one before I was wondering if there were gun stores that let you try them out to see if it is something doable for me? ....

First, look at your state laws. I don't know where you are, but in Illinois (where I am), you have to get a FOID card from the state first, takes a month or two.... the dealer won't let you even pick one up without showing your card.

Trying it out depends on the gun store owner and his facilities. My local guy has a small range out back, I've never used it myself, but I presume if I was hemming and hawing between two guns, he'd take me there to give them a test drive.

500 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:48:24am

re: #490 kawfytawk

well I want one that will take the fight out of an assailant....BUT I don't want one that is too big for me

I was doing cash deposits to banks at night, I wanted something that had shock power if I had to use it.

501 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:48:30am

No hypocrisy here.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

502 WriterMom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:48:35am

re: #497 godfrey

Agreed. He's working class just like Michael Moore.

503 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:48:53am

re: #489 Dustyvet

Last weapon I owned was in 1986, when I was doing security work. I purchased an S&W Model 32 satin finish .357 Magnum. It's not a side arm, it's a frigging Howitzer...:)

damn artilleryman...

504 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:49:06am

re: #486 jwb7605

I don't think so. He changed the wording of "Glory Days" to fit the superbowl theme. I could almost tolerate watching him for a change, and he stayed off politics (also a change).

I haven't been to a Springsteen in a few years. Does he normally talk politics while in concert? I know a lot of the lefties leave politics out of their stage shows.

505 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:49:38am

re: #465 kawfytawk
and
re: #467 Lincolntf
and
re: #469 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
and
re: #470 Dustyvet
Hey y'all - just typed a correction for wikipedia for today; I'm doing well, although a touch nostalgic, and hope y'all are too!
The nostalgia comes from today being the 50th anniversary of Buddy Holly doing his last concert and boarding the light plane that crashed at a few minutes after midnight on Feb 3rd, 1959. Fifty years ago and that was indeed for me and my generation and parts of the following generation, the day the music died.
And just to honor ole Buddy and to give all y'all a pop quiz, can you name the instrument (primary) on this song (no fair looking it up):[Link: www.imeem.com...]

506 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:50:04am

re: #493 claspur

No, Steve, I was semi-aware of that. What's the status of Texas and the FEDS threat of state funding to the state though?

don't know...google blackmail/strong arm/intimidation/feds....

507 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:50:08am

re: #497 godfrey

Springsteen is a preening narcissist. I don't believe his working class schtick for a second.

I hate that "I'm Blue Collar, therefore better than you" crap.

508 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:50:17am

re: #496 Nevergiveup

You know who I like? Tom Petty. Yes, he's hit the bong one too many times. But he's not a poser. I also like Bob Dylan.

509 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:50:18am

re: #477 notutopia

May everyone have the best day possible!
BBL, off to the MD's for the annual probe, prod and boob press.
: )

Thanks.
My day can only get better. My access badge didn't let me in to work this morning, so I had to keep from getting nervous while walking to the front door to the area. The admin took my badge number, which was a good sign; turns out several badges aren't working.
I wonder if it is due to the company that has 3 of the 4 floors of the building having layoffs, and they turned off some wrong badges.

510 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:50:28am

re: #495 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Prosecutor looks at ways to put Israeli officers on trial for Gaza 'war crimes'

But the EU and all the other Euro Weenies want to be seen as "Impartial" mediators in the Middle East?

511 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:51:02am

re: #490 kawfytawk

well I want one that will take the fight out of an assailant....BUT I don't want one that is too big for me

How big are you? Male or female?

/yes, it matters.

512 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:51:12am

Good morning, Lizards! Great game last night. I didn't win the office pool, but it sure was an entertaining game. My SIL is a big Steeler fan, and he was ecstatic. My co-worker is from Arizona and she is not too joyful this morning.

My favorite commercial: the Audi commercial followed by the Cheetos one with the pigeons.

513 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:51:14am

re: #504 kcladderman

Oh, I've seen him at JazzFest [sic] in New Orleans. His politics on stage are fairly clear.

514 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:51:22am

re: #497 godfrey

Springsteen is a preening narcissist. I don't believe his working class schtick for a second.

Excellent qualifier. Upding.
Even before he came out of the moonbat closet, that was what I saw on stage. He has this arrogant "what of it, wanna fight?" posture. It brings out a subconscious "yeah, asshole" attitude in me.

Weakness on my part, maybe.

515 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:51:57am

re: #508 godfrey

You know who I like? Tom Petty. Yes, he's hit the bong one too many times. But he's not a poser.

Any guy who played a recurring character on "King of The Hill" is OK in my book.

516 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:52:10am

re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Springsteen has the set up to perform live in a stadium...they have more set up and tear down time than a National Anthem singer. Plus, hell, how long has Bruce been playing stadiums.

Jennifer was beautiful, her rendition was amazing. And she has been thru some really bad stuff lately.

darn...I like critiqing the anthem...sounds like a good one...many are not

517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:53:19am

re: #505 realwest

I have no idea... before my time, sorry.

518 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:53:20am

re: #507 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Me, I got-up and took a dump last night while SringSproing played....

519 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:53:24am

re: #504 kcladderman

I haven't been to a Springsteen in a few years. Does he normally talk politics while in concert? I know a lot of the lefties leave politics out of their stage shows.

He has a special segment in each concert for politics, & encourages contributions to a local charity, usually a non-partisan one, like a food bank. That's when I go to the bathroom.

520 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:53:27am

re: #492 Alouette

Drawing a tree and a guy crashed into the cartoon tree is not teh funny, but, whatever.

Well I didn't say it was funny in fact it was quite predictable. Just don't think they were making fun of Ski injuries.

521 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #497 godfrey

Springsteen is a preening narcissist. I don't believe his working class schtick for a second.

ha! neither does he I'll bet

522 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:53:54am

re: #457 godfrey

I wish you well, Irish Rose. You are not taking the easy way out, and that approach is what made this country prosperous and great.

One of the things I'd like to see the feds do is mandate a course in basic economics as part of the public high school curriculum. Bring entrepreneurs into the schools to talk to kids, not these buffoons who hold up condoms and smile or ridiculous "motivational speakers" who actually know nothing but fine-sounding platitudes.

Give students knowledge, tools, and freedom, and they will create new wealth.

Agreed, we should be teaching young people basic economics.

We should also be doing everything that we possibly can in this country to generate new jobs by making it easier for people to start their own small businesses, and enact policies that encourage the growth and success of existing small businesses - instead of enacting policies that stifle them. Small businesses are the backbone of this country.

Its' also critical that we take immediate steps to reward corporations who choose to do their business here at home, on American soil. Double incentives for corporations who set up shop in areas of the country that are economically depressed.

And make those who shift their jobs out of the country to take advantage of cheap labor elsewhere, pay a penalty.

523 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:54:01am

Well. Obama has succeeded in talking the stock market down even further.

Perhaps he should go to Wall Street and lecture people for not supporting prices despite Obama's insistence on raising taxes and spending a Trillion on political paybacks.

This guy is Chavez without any time in uniform.

524 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:54:25am

re: #505 realwest

and
re: #467 Lincolntf
and
re: #469 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
and
re: #470 Dustyvet
Hey y'all - just typed a correction for wikipedia for today; I'm doing well, although a touch nostalgic, and hope y'all are too!
The nostalgia comes from today being the 50th anniversary of Buddy Holly doing his last concert and boarding the light plane that crashed at a few minutes after midnight on Feb 3rd, 1959. Fifty years ago and that was indeed for me and my generation and parts of the following generation, the day the music died.
And just to honor ole Buddy and to give all y'all a pop quiz, can you name the instrument (primary) on this song (no fair looking it up):[Link: www.imeem.com...]

Can't get the song to load...:(

525 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:54:29am

re: #499 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I live in Texas and it requires state ID and then a background check...can have gun in 10 minutes.

I know at Bass pro shop you can try out bows, and rods and reels ...just wondered if they did that for guns....my main thing is I want a gun that is stronger than a .22 but not huge and cumbersome with a lot of recoil...it needs to be small enough to carry in purse.

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:54:44am

re: #516 albusteve

darn...I like critiqing the anthem...sounds like a good one...many are not

Critique away!

527 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:54:56am

re: #510 Nevergiveup

But the EU and all the other Euro Weenies want to be seen as "Impartial" mediators in the Middle East?

Sure. "Impartial" to the Eurabians and the Arabs and Moslems means that they consider the killing of an Israeli child to be no worse than killing the terrorist who did it.

528 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:55:09am

re: #511 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

5'4 female

529 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:55:19am

Dahole is deeply....deeply sorry. He didn't want to pay his back taxes of over 100,000. but Obama appointed him, so he had to and now Tommy is deeply deeply sorry.

*spit*

530 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:55:45am

re: #508 godfrey
Morning godfrey - funny you should say that: Tom Petty can sound EXACTLY like Bob Dylan when he tries to (he doesn't have to try very hard!) but I love Tom Petty too. Bongs, dope or not.
And Dylan has written more great songs than anyone I can think of - especially if they are performed by someone else!

531 Throbert McGee  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:55:45am

re: #43 zombie

The Superbowl was today? Wow, I totally didn't even know that. Shows how disconnected from mainstream culture I really am.

You're worse than I am, zombie -- I tend to root* for whichever team has the sexier QB, no matter who's playing, but at least I know when the Superbowl is...

*I mean, I root silently, in my head -- I'm not actually gonna waste time sitting down to watch a football game on TV, when there's stuff that needs readin' on this Innarweb thing.

532 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:56:12am

re: #508 godfrey

You know who I like? Tom Petty. Yes, he's hit the bong one too many times. But he's not a poser. I also like Bob Dylan.

Yea Tom Petty is about as real as the come. I have been a fan since Dman The Torpedoes.

533 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:56:19am

re: #522 Irish Rose

Agreed, on all points!

By the way, have you ever considered nursing? I knew many women in your situation who went the LPN route and started at $40k after graduation. Big nursing shortage, too.

534 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:56:45am

re: #506 albusteve

don't know...google blackmail/strong arm/intimidation/feds....

Isn't the percussion being played on his guitar case?

535 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:56:52am

Good morning, it's Groundhog Day!

536 ThinkRight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:57:42am

re: #518 claspur

Me, I got-up and took a dump Springsteen last night while SringSproing played....


Fixed

537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:57:45am

See y'all later. Getting ready for a funeral.

538 DeafDog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:58:08am

re: #507 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I hate that "I'm Blue Collar, therefore better than you" crap.

He does have the "whiney" working-man persona down.

Babe, the chips were stacked us
Only my car can protect us
But Gas Prices are high
So let's drive fast and die
The man who keeps us down,
Will be sorry when I'm not around
Because there'll be no one to kick
But I'm rich and need a new shtick

539 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:58:24am

re: #525 kawfytawk

I live in Texas and it requires state ID and then a background check...can have gun in 10 minutes.

I know at Bass pro shop you can try out bows, and rods and reels ...just wondered if they did that for guns....my main thing is I want a gun that is stronger than a .22 but not huge and cumbersome with a lot of recoil...it needs to be small enough to carry in purse.

They might, I dunno (we don't have a Bass Pro near me).

Sounds like you'll be wanting something like a 9mm or 38 cal. While I'd run toward automatics, your best bet would probably be a revolver of some sort for its mechanical simplicity and reliability. Some short nosed one (like in all the detective shows from years ago) will be small and light enough to fit in a purse.

540 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:58:45am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

bye FBV

541 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:58:48am

re: #530 realwest

Real! Yah, Dylan's singing is an acquired taste. I think of it as a character voice, like Jimmy Durante's -- or Tom Waits, who I also think is great.

542 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:59:07am

re: #535 Honorary Yooper

Good morning, it's Groundhog Day!


[Video]

Great movie...

543 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:59:59am

re: #517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! Well ok, you're young enough that you probably never heard of him but the instrument is the celesta - a sorta mini-Harpsichord.
Guy's 21 years old when he writes this shit, from Lubbock, Texas (not exactly noted, at least then, as the center of musical sophistication) and he writes this song FOR that instrument to play.

544 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:00:01am

re: #539 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They might, I dunno (we don't have a Bass Pro near me).

Sounds like you'll be wanting something like a 9mm or 38 cal. While I'd run toward automatics, your best bet would probably be a revolver of some sort for its mechanical simplicity and reliability. Some short nosed one (like in all the detective shows from years ago) will be small and light enough to fit in a purse.

We got a huge Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Mills...:)

545 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:00:41am

re: #513 godfrey

Oh, I've seen him at JazzFest [sic] in New Orleans. His politics on stage are fairly clear.

Well thats too bad. Though I really don't care much for his Born in the USA and after music. I really enjoy his stuff from the 70's. Though that i suppose probably has more to do with traveling back in time as I listen to it than anything.
Man I miss my 70 Chevelle SS

546 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:00:48am

re: #526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Critique away!

thanks for that....had that Broadway feel to it

547 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:01:18am

re: #525 kawfytawk

I live in Texas and it requires state ID and then a background check...can have gun in 10 minutes.

I know at Bass pro shop you can try out bows, and rods and reels ...just wondered if they did that for guns....my main thing is I want a gun that is stronger than a .22 but not huge and cumbersome with a lot of recoil...it needs to be small enough to carry in purse.

Any reputable gun shop will assist in finding the right weapon for you. I would advise you to find one that offers a the NRA First Steps Pistol Orientation class. It only takes a couple of hours but you'll be much more comfortable handling your weapon.

548 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:01:33am

re: #539 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

can those laser sites be put on all guns....I was just thinking....in a stressful situation, It might be nice to have that dot lemme know Im gonna hit my target ya know?

549 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:01:45am

re: #543 realwest

Hey LT! Well ok, you're young enough that you probably never heard of him but the instrument is the celesta - a sorta mini-Harpsichord.
Guy's 21 years old when he writes this shit, from Lubbock, Texas (not exactly noted, at least then, as the center of musical sophistication) and he writes this song FOR that instrument to play.

Oh, I'm old enough to have heard of him... and know that the plane also included the Big Bopper and Edie Vallie (I think that's right) but not Waylon Jennings who had given his seat to somebody else.

But that's about as far as it goes... though I do have "Peggy Sue" playing in my head now.

550 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:01:58am

re: #524 Dustyvet
Shoot, that's a shame Dusty! Don't know why it didn't load for ya, but it was Buddy singing "Everyday".
If I had the skills I'd try looking it up on YouTube but I doubt it's on video anywhere! LOL!
How ya doing today my friend?

551 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:02:17am

re: #544 Dustyvet

We got a huge Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Mills...:)

I never drive up to that hell hole you live in, unless I absolutely have to...

552 jorline  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:02:24am

re: #543 realwest

Hey LT! Well ok, you're young enough that you probably never heard of him but the instrument is the celesta - a sorta mini-Harpsichord.
Guy's 21 years old when he writes this shit, from Lubbock, Texas (not exactly noted, at least then, as the center of musical sophistication) and he writes this song FOR that instrument to play.

Morning, RW. Hope you're well.

The day the music died.

553 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:02:37am

re: #533 godfrey

Agreed, on all points!

By the way, have you ever considered nursing? I knew many women in your situation who went the LPN route and started at $40k after graduation. Big nursing shortage, too.

I do work in the healthcare industry.

I'm a CNA, earned my certification late last year. I work as an in-home caregiver, taking care of clients with alzheimers, dementia and other physical disabilities.

I love the work, and there's plenty of job security... but it doesn't pay enough.

554 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:02:39am

re: #530 realwest

Morning godfrey - funny you should say that: Tom Petty can sound EXACTLY like Bob Dylan when he tries to (he doesn't have to try very hard!) but I love Tom Petty too. Bongs, dope or not.
And Dylan has written more great songs than anyone I can think of - especially if they are performed by someone else!


I used to agree, but I went to a Dylan concert and heard him do his own songs, and damn...his voice does make the songs even better. Yeah he can't carry a tune worth a...well...you know, but...he adds something to his songs that no one else can.

He also sang a duet with Paul Simon at this concert (great show!), and they did Bridge Over Troubled Water...it was a trainwreck. But his own songs are his and his alone. imho

555 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:09am

So the news on Fox is that the GOP considers the stimulus package dead in the Senate. I find that hard to believe. How many Dems would bail out on the O?
I really hope it's dead, but I don't see how the Repubs managed to kill it.

556 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:12am

re: #544 Dustyvet

We got a huge Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Mills...:)

And we have one down our way over in Bolingbrook.

557 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:29am

re: #547 Bobblehead

I would advise you to find one that offers a the NRA First Steps Pistol Orientation class. It only takes a couple of hours but you'll be much more comfortable handling your weapon.

Yes, that is exactly what I am gonna do. I want to feel comfortable and knowledgeable...I am taking this VERY seriously

558 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:39am

re: #545 kcladderman

Another moonbat some of whose music I like is Joan Baez. Her voice is fantastic. Her political songs are stupid (tear down the prisons? Ask Richard Pryor about that; he had a great bit on why we need them), but her love songs are good, and Diamonds and Rust is great.

559 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:54am

re: #541 godfrey

Real! Yah, Dylan's singing is an acquired taste. I think of it as a character voice, like Jimmy Durante's -- or Tom Waits, who I also think is great.


Right. No one does Tom Waits like Waits, and Jimmy Durante is just now getting appreciated. Dylan is just like that.

560 DeafDog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:57am

re: #522 Irish Rose

Agreed, we should be teaching young people basic economics.

Dick Chaney had a good line that summed up what needs to be taught. It was something like - "America is the land of dreams, but every dream starts with saving money."

561 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:03:59am

re: #551 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I never drive up to that hell hole you live in, unless I absolutely have to...

There's always Bolingbrook instead. :-)

562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:04:37am

re: #548 kawfytawk

can those laser sites be put on all guns....I was just thinking....in a stressful situation, It might be nice to have that dot lemme know Im gonna hit my target ya know?

I'm betting you really don't want to mess with that... just the appearence of the weapon and (if you must) shots fired and the noise it makes will make all but the most hard core run (crooks are cowards, they want easy scores).

If the guy keeps coming at you, empty the clip into him... something will hit.

/but before any of that happens, take your baby out and practice until you are good.

563 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:04:52am

re: #444 monkeytime

Ridiculous Items in Stimulus package

"$335 million to prevent sexually transmitted diseases."

I thought we were in a recession? - What the hell is wrong with tax and spend corruptocrats? oh yeah - they are tax and spend corruptocrats. Economically illiterate, corrupt, wasteful, stupid. Dasholes, all.

564 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:05:00am

re: #545 kcladderman

Well thats too bad. Though I really don't care much for his Born in the USA and after music. I really enjoy his stuff from the 70's. Though that i suppose probably has more to do with traveling back in time as I listen to it than anything.
Man I miss my 70 Chevelle SS

heh...I'll bet you do...depending it might be worth a small fortune now...30-40k

565 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:05:40am

re: #557 kawfytawk

Yes, that is exactly what I am gonna do. I want to feel comfortable and knowledgeable...I am taking this VERY seriously

Good for you. There is no other way to do it.

566 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:12am

re: #497 godfrey

Springsteen is a preening narcissist. I don't believe his working class schtick for a second.

just wanted to second that emotion.

567 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:13am

re: #559 Golem Akbar

Right. No one does Tom Waits like Waits, and Jimmy Durante is just now getting appreciated. Dylan is just like that.

Jimmy Durante was smashing pianos before the Who were born. The Schnoz.
I haven't heard anything of his in years, but remember him from the Ed Sullivan show.

568 derbigdog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:42am

re: #143 gmsc

Geez, do you people have to pick so much? After all, even 0bama knows they only dropped one bomb on Pearl Harbor!

/////


Yes and it was a big one!

/;^)

569 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:42am

While I was in security, we had a 5' 2" female who was a master with 9MM, she was also dammed good with Monodak PR-38. Watched her disarm a male 6'3" with a knife one night. She beat this putz senseless with the PR-38 nightstick, and then cuffed him.

570 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:55am

re: #561 Honorary Yooper

There's always Bolingbrook instead. :-)

If it's north of Kankakee, it belongs to Wisconsin as far as I'm concerned. :-)

571 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:55am

re: #549 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Huh, well it was Richie Valens who was all of 17 when he died in that plane crash. And weirdly enough, "Everday" was the "b" side to Peggy Sue!
Here, get it out of your mind: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

572 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:06:55am

re: #562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

ok....listen, thanks you guys...dustyvet, Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret), bobblehead....really appreciate the info

573 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:08:04am

re: #530 realwest

Morning godfrey - funny you should say that: Tom Petty can sound EXACTLY like Bob Dylan when he tries to (he doesn't have to try very hard!)

I loved when they would sing after each other with The Traveling Wilburys:
"Mmm, ehyy, gety ima hoo... hit it, Tom!"
"Mmm, ehyy, gety ima hoo..."

574 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:08:08am

re: #550 realwest

Shoot, that's a shame Dusty! Don't know why it didn't load for ya, but it was Buddy singing "Everyday".
If I had the skills I'd try looking it up on YouTube but I doubt it's on video anywhere! LOL!
How ya doing today my friend?

Doing fine here, I'm hoping that Tiger can come home today, I miss him.

575 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:08:08am

Movie Review! Go see Defiance. It's the non-moonbat movie for non-moonbats. I left feeling very inspired. There was enough applause following the film from the appreciative audience here in LaLa land to make me realize that even in Los Angeles, there is hope (the good kind, not the O-kind). Go. See. Enjoy.

576 ThinkRight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:08:15am
US President Barack Obama has already used experts within the last few months to hold high-level but discreet talks with both Iran and Syria, organizers of the meetings told AFP. Skip related content


Obama Hussein
He has been POTUS for less than two weeks and he has been talking for months
Treason !
I do not know who is more screwed
The US or Israel

577 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:08:20am

re: #557 kawfytawk

Yes, that is exactly what I am gonna do. I want to feel comfortable and knowledgeable...I am taking this VERY seriously

My instructor introduced us to all different kinds and sizes of handguns. He made us handle all of them and learn the mechanics of each. By the time we got to the shooting range we were all pretty comfortable firing our weapons.

578 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:09:50am

re: #562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

If the guy keeps coming at you, empty the clip into him... something will hit.

/but before any of that happens, take your baby out and practice until you are good.

On second thought, don't practice on your baby - Child Services might have a problem with that.
/

579 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:09:59am

re: #576 ThinkRight

Obama Hussein
He has been POTUS for less than two weeks and he has been talking for months
Treason !
I do not know who is more screwed
The US or Israel

G-d will look after Israel, but I'm not sure about the US.
But natural disasters will be blamed on "global warming" instead of G-d.

580 opnion  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:10:08am

re: #571 realwest

Huh, well it was Richie Valens who was all of 17 when he died in that plane crash. And weirdly enough, "Everday" was the "b" side to Peggy Sue!
Here, get it out of your mind: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

Hi Real. Buddy Holly did , "Peggy Sue got Married" in his kitchen , just he & his guitar. His wife recorded it & a Chicago radio station played it the other day. Great tune & he never got it to the studio.

581 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:10:31am

re: #572 kawfytawk

ok....listen, thanks you guys...dustyvet, Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret), bobblehead....really appreciate the info

You're welcome. Explain your situation and needs to the guys at the store, they'll be able to help and won't put one of Dusty's cannons in your hand just to make a commission.

Go on a quiet day (not Saturday morning), so they can take their time with you.

Good luck and let us know what you get.

582 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:10:31am

re: #569 Dustyvet

see...I'm not that kind of gal....LOL I would say I am more of a minivan, bunco playing, mom jeans kind of gal....lol

583 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:11:00am

re: #571 realwest

Huh, well it was Richie Valens who was all of 17 when he died in that plane crash. And weirdly enough, "Everday" was the "b" side to Peggy Sue!
Here, get it out of your mind: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

Trouble maker...

584 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:11:23am

re: #577 Bobblehead

Do you think if I went to the NRA website it would list where these courses are offered in my area?

585 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:11:38am

re: #573 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I loved when they would sing after each other with The Traveling Wilburys:
"Mmm, ehyy, gety ima hoo... hit it, Tom!"
"Mmm, ehyy, gety ima hoo..."

Wiburys...pure genious...really one of the best bads ever...no shit

586 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:12:38am

re: #581 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good luck and let us know what you get.

I will

587 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:13:24am

re: #564 albusteve

heh...I'll bet you do...depending it might be worth a small fortune now...30-40k

Yep I got it from my brother. Traded a car I paid $500 for plus $500 cash.
Man I loved that car.

588 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:13:39am

re: #582 kawfytawk

see...I'm not that kind of gal....LOL I would say I am more of a minivan, bunco playing, mom jeans kind of gal....lol

Is otays...:) The Lady I mentioned now works for U S Customs, and gets to drag a fruit smelling beagle around an airport all day...:)

589 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:14:15am

China is collapsing.
[Link: www.nakedcapitalism.com...]

Maybe is China could clean up its toxic waste and ditch nanny state communism? In the mean time- Don't buy "Made in China"

590 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:14:23am

re: #584 kawfytawk

answered my own question....found it

591 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:14:48am

re: #587 kcladderman

Yep I got it from my brother. Traded a car I paid $500 for plus $500 cash.
Man I loved that car.

with some of the more rare engines those things can top 100k I believe

592 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:15:41am

re: #584 kawfytawk

Do you think if I went to the NRA website it would list where these courses are offered in my area?

That's a good question. I don't know. When I was checking gun shops in my area on the internet the one I chose advertised that they offered the NRA class.

593 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:16:02am

re: #589 FrogMarch

China is collapsing.
[Link: www.nakedcapitalism.com...]

Maybe is China could clean up its toxic waste and ditch nanny state communism? In the mean time- Don't buy "Made in China"

Gonna be an interesting time to sell trillions of dollars of T-Bills to float our debt if they fall apart.

Can you say hyper-inflation? Sure you can... run those printing presses till they burn out!

594 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:16:37am

re: #584 kawfytawk

Do you think if I went to the NRA website it would list where these courses are offered in my area?

You might want to google "concealed carry locations (your state)".

Also, most of the responses to your questions are right on...these guys know what they're talking about.

One thing you might try out is the Glock 26, a 9mm semi-auto (I hate when they're called automatics). It's a nice little gun, easy for concealed carry, and gives ya 11 rounds (10 in the mag, 1 in the chamber). My wife loves ours.

595 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:16:47am

I cannot believe they don't have the course here in TX...what in the world?

596 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:17:26am

re: #595 kawfytawk

I cannot believe they don't have the course here in TX...what in the world?

Where in Texas? I live in the Hill Country and I have about five options within a 20 mile range.

597 jorline  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:17:29am

Czech president attacks Al Gore's climate campaign

"I don't think that there is any global warming," said the 67-year-old liberal, whose country holds the rotating presidency of the European Union. "I don't see the statistical data for that."

Referring to the former US vice president, who attended Davos this year, he added: "I'm very sorry that some people like Al Gore are not ready to listen to the competing theories. I do listen to them.

The liberal Punxsutawney Phil, amazing what you can see with your head's not up your butt.

598 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:18:49am

re: #584 kawfytawk

Do you think if I went to the NRA website it would list where these courses are offered in my area?

Here's the NRA link:
[Link: www.nra.org...]

599 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:19:49am

Fellow Americans -the time has come.

The time has come for the few on the very top learn to share their excessive wealth with those who help keep them on the top. The time has come for the few that are assured 7 figure checks for just a few months of effort share that with people who have to work second and third jobs earning minimum wage to keep their families fed. The time has come for the top executives of this industry to stop getting big bonuses even when the company is losing money and the industry is shedding jobs. The time has come for this industry to stop exporting jobs to far off remote locations all to save money as they damage the environment irreparably.

Yes - it is time to socialize the entertainment industry.

600 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:20:18am

re: #594 subsailor68


One thing you might try out is the Glock 26, a 9mm semi-auto (I hate when they're called automatics). It's a nice little gun, easy for concealed carry, and gives ya 11 rounds (10 in the mag, 1 in the chamber). My wife loves ours.

Funny you should mention that, my brother told me to get one of those. I watched someone using one on youtube....they said a con was the (please excuse me for being so ignorant on the subject) the thingy on the top pops back and might pinch your hand

601 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:20:28am

re: #552 jorline Hi jorline - I sure hope you're doing well today. It was indeed the Day The Music Died. In fact, without Buddy Holly, it's unlikely we'd have had the Beatles, or the Rolling Stones and maybe not even Bob Dylan himself, as Buddy was the FIRST singer/songwriter to give up what was BIG MONEY in exhange for total artistic control of his music as recorded - he produced it and the label's (Decca) engineer did with it what Buddy told him to - until Buddy was good enough to do all the studio work himself! Even the great Frank Sinatra, at the time, hadda let the record company fool around with the music HE recorded and produce the record they wanted.
And: "Although his success lasted only a year and a half before his death in an airplane crash, Holly is described by critic Bruce Eder as "the single most influential creative force in early rock and roll."[2] His works and innovations were copied by his contemporaries and later musicians, notably The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and exerted a profound influence on popular music. In 2004, Rolling Stone Magazine ranked Holly #13 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.[3][Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

602 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:20:33am

re: #596 subsailor68

waco area

603 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:21:27am

re: #602 kawfytawk

waco area

My best friend lives in Friendswood, Texas...:)

604 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:22:16am

National Union candidate: Kahane was right
Dr. Michael Ben-Ari, No. 4 on rightist party's Knesset list, offers to expel Israel's Arabs to countries such as Venezuela and Turkey, seeks to banish 'leftists' from High Court, and believes in rebuilding Temple in Jerusalem

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Maybe it's just me, But I seriously doubt this guy is gonna be getting a phone call from Obama?

605 Colonel Panik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:22:35am

Lizards:
The Senate may be voting today on Obama's AG Nominee, Eric Holder.
This man has been a persistent opponent of our right to keep and bear arms and was responsible for the Clinton Administration's pardons of the criminal financier Mark Rich, Puerto Rican FALN separatist terrorists and members of the Weather Underground. I strongly urge you to call and fax your Senators ASAP in opposition to this nomination!

606 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:22:49am

Later Lizards!

607 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:23:11am

Morning all.

Can someone help me out. I would like to get a nice Government job and pay ZERO taxes. (-:

So what do you think?

608 wahabicorridor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:23:12am

good morning lizardia!

Crimeny, has anyone noted the globular worming hitting the UK?

On the M25 this morning, one queue stretched 54 miles.
In London, there was chaos as the entire bus service was cancelled for the first time in living memory and only one underground line was running a good service.

And that was the BEST superbowl game I have ever seen - I had at least 4 heart attacks.

YEA STEELERS!

609 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:23:32am

re: #606 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Later Lizards!

Later LT...Take care, and keep your powder dry...:)

610 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:23:46am
611 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:24:09am

re: #603 Dustyvet

think that is down south of me

612 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:24:33am

re: #606 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

bye vet...thanks again

613 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:24:41am

re: #599 karmic_inquisitor

Fellow Americans -the time has come.

The time has come for the few on the very top learn to share their excessive wealth with those who help keep them on the top. The time has come for the few that are assured 7 figure checks for just a few months of effort share that with people who have to work second and third jobs earning minimum wage to keep their families fed. The time has come for the top executives of this industry to stop getting big bonuses even when the company is losing money and the industry is shedding jobs. The time has come for this industry to stop exporting jobs to far off remote locations all to save money as they damage the environment irreparably.

Yes - it is time to socialize the entertainment industry.

Speaking of which (I know you jest), the entertainment industry loves to criticize the outsourcing of jobs to India and places outside the US, yet more and more filming is being done in Canada and other spots outside of Hollywood. Business is fleeing California rapidly, for places with lower taxes to pay, lower overhead (i.e. less unionization of workers). Cognitive dissonance.

614 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:24:54am

re: #601 realwest

Hi jorline - I sure hope you're doing well today. It was indeed the Day The Music Died. In fact, without Buddy Holly, it's unlikely we'd have had the Beatles, or the Rolling Stones and maybe not even Bob Dylan himself, as Buddy was the FIRST singer/songwriter to give up what was BIG MONEY in exhange for total artistic control of his music as recorded - he produced it and the label's (Decca) engineer did with it what Buddy told him to - until Buddy was good enough to do all the studio work himself! Even the great Frank Sinatra, at the time, hadda let the record company fool around with the music HE recorded and produce the record they wanted.
And: "Although his success lasted only a year and a half before his death in an airplane crash, Holly is described by critic Bruce Eder as "the single most influential creative force in early rock and roll."[2] His works and innovations were copied by his contemporaries and later musicians, notably The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and exerted a profound influence on popular music. In 2004, Rolling Stone Magazine ranked Holly #13 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.[3][Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

nice...thanks for that

615 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:25:04am

re: #600 kawfytawk

Funny you should mention that, my brother told me to get one of those. I watched someone using one on youtube....they said a con was the (please excuse me for being so ignorant on the subject) the thingy on the top pops back and might pinch your hand

Heh, heh. No problem. It's the slide, and it won't pinch your hand if you're holding the weapon correctly. (I believe there's also an aftermarket for grip covers that will protect that fleshy part between your thumb and forefinger as you hold the weapon, but that can snag if you're carrying in a purse, etc.)

616 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:25:14am

re: #610 FrogMarch

The left's real plans:
"YES WE CAN! have a global depression if we really continue to work at it…,"

Jimmy Carter II

I am still getting my Zionist checks on time.

617 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:25:25am

re: #607 Dustoff-507

I think you need to make nice with Obama for that

618 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:25:38am

re: #611 kawfytawk

think that is down south of me

I think it's a three to four hour drive. But not sure, last time i was in Texas was 1991.

619 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:26:32am

re: #604 Nevergiveup

National Union candidate: Kahane was right
Dr. Michael Ben-Ari, No. 4 on rightist party's Knesset list, offers to expel Israel's Arabs to countries such as Venezuela and Turkey, seeks to banish 'leftists' from High Court, and believes in rebuilding Temple in Jerusalem

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Maybe it's just me, But I seriously doubt this guy is gonna be getting a phone call from Obama?


Hope he has good security.

620 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:26:52am

re: #591 albusteve

with some of the more rare engines those things can top 100k I believe

It had a 396 stock my brother dropped in a 454. All that motor under the hood and you could still change the water pump without removing the fan shroud.

621 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:27:01am

re: #615 subsailor68

whats your opinion of the supposed "teacup" hold? saw that mentioned when watching the video

622 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:27:11am

re: #605 Colonel Panik

Lizards:
The Senate may be voting today on Obama's AG Nominee, Eric Holder.
This man has been a persistent opponent of our right to keep and bear arms and was responsible for the Clinton Administration's pardons of the criminal financier Mark Rich, Puerto Rican FALN separatist terrorists and members of the Weather Underground. I strongly urge you to call and fax your Senators ASAP in opposition to this nomination!

Indeed.

"The real gamble in this election is playing the same Washington game with the same Washington players and expecting a different result."
-Barack Obama, December 27, 2007

[Link: www.senate.gov...]

623 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:27:36am
624 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:27:51am

re: #613 Golem Akbar

Speaking of which (I know you jest), the entertainment industry loves to criticize the outsourcing of jobs to India and places outside the US, yet more and more filming is being done in Canada and other spots outside of Hollywood. Business is fleeing California rapidly, for places with lower taxes to pay, lower overhead (i.e. less unionization of workers). Cognitive dissonance.

NM is a primary movie making state....passed a set the other day here in ABQ....again

625 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:28:09am

re: #573 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
ROTFLMAO! Actually Tom Petty put together the Travelling Willbury's to help Roy Orbison get back into music - and to get the guy from ELO back recording as well.
Petty also resurrected - briefly - the career of Del Shannon [Link: www.imeem.com...]

626 Ojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:28:28am

www.astro.ucla.edu...]>Here are the San Gabriel Mountains of California for this morning, not especially beautiful rightnow, but here they are. (Towercam)/a>

627 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:29:38am

re: #574 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - didja get my e-mail last night about Tigers - among other things? Didja hear back from the vet?

628 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:30:19am

re: #621 kawfytawk

whats your opinion of the supposed "teacup" hold? saw that mentioned when watching the video

Hmm...not familiar with that term. I'll see if I can find it (have probably seen the hold, but not by that term).

Also, you might want to check out this site, as they appear to be relatively close to you, and have courses:

Chandler's

Click on the training calendar link.

629 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:30:37am

re: #625 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Actually Tom Petty put together the Travelling Willbury's to help Roy Orbison get back into music - and to get the guy from ELO back recording as well.
Petty also resurrected - briefly - the career of Del Shannon [Link: www.imeem.com...]

Weren't the Masked Marauders basically the Wilburys "incognito"?
They allegedly had Bob Dylan, or at least it sure sounded like that.

630 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:31:18am

re: #620 kcladderman

It had a 396 stock my brother dropped in a 454. All that motor under the hood and you could still change the water pump without removing the fan shroud.

those days are gone...those old blocks have been snapped up years and rebuilt from scratch...huge money in it

631 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:31:23am

Baseball and Football...


632 Colonel Panik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:31:31am

CALL YOUR SENATORS
FAX YOUR SENATORS
STOP ERIC HOLDER!

633 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #617 kawfytawk

I think you need to make nice with Obama for that


WOW, that could be hard. )-:
I didn't vote for him, do you think that would matter?

634 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:32:12am

re: #547 Bobblehead

re: #576 ThinkRight

The US is right now.

On another topic about guns...
Two different times over three months time, I red that having a four inch bbl. .38 with Specials loaded, is the most effective weapon you can have for home protection...I tend to agree; however, I also like having "Slabber" to back the .38 up to....
20" bbl 12ga., no choak, rear pistol grip Mossberg....pump.

When anyone hears that "Chuh-Chih", things and people stop moving.

635 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:32:28am

re: #616 Alouette

I am still getting my Zionist checks on time.

Me too.

636 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:32:36am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

The snow has arrived in England!
Its the top story on the BBC News Page, here!

Yep - everything has come to a grinding halt, and although its a bit more than the predicted 2 inches, it will still seem wimpy to you - but hey, its the UK, what do you expect!

:-)))

637 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:32:52am

re: #627 realwest

Hey Dusty - didja get my e-mail last night about Tigers - among other things? Didja hear back from the vet?

Let me check, I think I did and sent an answer. No News this morning on Tiger yet this morning.

638 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:33:00am

re: #621 kawfytawk

whats your opinion of the supposed "teacup" hold? saw that mentioned when watching the video

Okay, I see what that grip looks like. Not a good one. Here's a link with pictures of the various ways to hold:

Grips

639 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:33:22am

re: #636 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

The snow has arrived in England!
Its the top story on the BBC News Page, here!

Yep - everything has come to a grinding halt, and although its a bit more than the predicted 2 inches, it will still seem wimpy to you - but hey, its the UK, what do you expect!

:-)))


QUICK.. call Al Bore.

640 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:33:29am

re: #628 subsailor68

perfect....thanks!

Yes, the teacup hold is where one hand is on the grip and the other cups the bottom. It looked like an alright way to hold it...however, since I am new...would prefer to learn the right way rather than break bad habits

641 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:33:36am

re: #625 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Actually Tom Petty put together the Travelling Willbury's to help Roy Orbison get back into music - and to get the guy from ELO back recording as well.
Petty also resurrected - briefly - the career of Del Shannon [Link: www.imeem.com...]

my sister dated Del in high school

642 Syrah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:33:47am

re: #626 Ojoe

Here are the San Gabriel Mountains of California for this morning, not especially beautiful rightnow, but here they are. (Towercam)/a>

When I lived in San Jose, I would on occasion pack the car with a lunch and my cameras and drive up to the Lick Observatory on Mt. Hamilton.

The clean and still air would make me feel human again.

643 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:33:49am

re: #636 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

The snow has arrived in England!
Its the top story on the BBC News Page, here!

Yep - everything has come to a grinding halt, and although its a bit more than the predicted 2 inches, it will still seem wimpy to you - but hey, its the UK, what do you expect!

:-)))

Yea...York Bars on a stick...:)

644 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:34:08am

re: #633 Dustoff-507

apparently KY is finding out what happens if you diss the mighty O

645 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:34:20am

re: #641 albusteve

my sister dated Del in high school

Her name wasn't Sue was it?

;-)

646 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:35:33am

re: #645 subsailor68

Her name wasn't Sue was it?

;-)

no but she did runnaround alot....

647 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:35:40am

re: #580 opnion
Hey opnion - thanks for that information - never knew that before and I am a big fan of Buddy's!
It's weird -there have been a lot of "tribute" CD's done (read:let's make some more money off Buddy Holly) but the best one was orchestrated by Waylon Jennings and on that tribute CD, the British group the Hollies, overdubbed that song - so they sang "harmony" and played all the instruments behind Buddy's vocals - it was kinda weird hearing his voice for the first time - fresh, I mean, after 35 years or so and it was Peggy Sue Got Married that the Hollies chose - now I know why - they just needed Buddy's lead vocals and it musta been easy to do since it was just Buddy and his Fender doing it on the original record!
Thanks again, my friend!

648 rightside  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:35:59am

I thought I heard someone say guns....

649 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:36:41am

re: #639 Dustoff-507

QUICK.. call Al Bore.

I think we're doing quite nicely without him turning up as well, thank you very much!

;-)

650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:36:51am

re: #641 albusteve

my sister dated Del in high school

My Mom dated Frankie Avalon, or as he was known then, Francis Avallone.

651 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:36:55am

re: #607 Dustoff-507

Morning all.

Can someone help me out. I would like to get a nice Government job and pay ZERO taxes. (-:

So what do you think?

congress

652 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:37:02am

re: #644 kawfytawk


LOL....

653 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:37:11am

re: #583 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) LOL! Well shoot LT, what kinda SP/4 would I be if I didn't make trouble for an LT?!? I just put that up there so you could listen once or twice and get it outta your head!

654 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:37:26am

re: #651 monkeytime


I'll check on it.... (-:

655 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:38:43am

re: #640 kawfytawk

perfect....thanks!

Yes, the teacup hold is where one hand is on the grip and the other cups the bottom. It looked like an alright way to hold it...however, since I am new...would prefer to learn the right way rather than break bad habits

One last tip (most good instructors will tell you). When you use the two-hand grip, you'll have a strong side and a weak side. Let's say you're right handed. When you grip the weapon, push slightly forward with your right hand, and pull slightly back with your left. Try to achieve the same pressure in each direction. When you do that, you'll immediately feel steadier, and it will really help provide stability and accuracy.

656 claspur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:38:49am

re: #641 albusteve

immpressive Steve. :o)

my old girlfriends' eldest brother bought dope for The Band when they were back in town....a couple of them grew up in Gloceste, and friends....which led to Dead dealings too...lol

657 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:39:07am

re: #653 realwest

LOL! Well shoot LT, what kinda SP/4 would I be if I didn't make trouble for an LT?!? I just put that up there so you could listen once or twice and get it outta your head!


LOL, been there done that. I had a BUTTER BAR LT and o-brother did I make life hard for him. (-:

658 darkster2400  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:39:11am

Obamamania - www.foxnews.com...]>Greg-alogue about Obama

659 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:40:05am

re: #655 subsailor68

thanks subsailor for the link and the info....BTW...my hubby spent 26 yrs in the USN

660 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:40:21am

re: #650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My Mom dated Frankie Avalon, or as he was known then, Francis Avallone.

pretty cool...he hit the bigtime fer sure...

661 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:40:26am

re: #487 kawfytawk

I am going to get my very first hand gun. Since I have never used one before I was wondering if there were gun stores that let you try them out to see if it is something doable for me? ....

I live in Texas and my BIL sells guns at Academy. There is a place called Bullet Trap in Plano that will rent them to you to try out.

662 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:40:40am

re: #659 kawfytawk

thanks subsailor for the link and the info....BTW...my hubby spent 26 yrs in the USN

Ah, then you married well!

:-)

663 jorline  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:40:46am

bbl

664 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:41:05am

re: #661 monkeytime

really? fantastic

665 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:41:11am

re: #660 albusteve


COOL!

666 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:41:34am

re: #662 subsailor68

yes, I have to say ...I really did :O)

667 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:41:54am

re: #664 kawfytawk

really? fantastic


Yes. When I saw your post I called him because I had heard him talk of this. He often advises customers to try before you buy so you get the right gun for you.

668 UFO TOFU  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:42:13am

re: #601 realwest
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

669 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:42:19am

re: #599 karmic_inquisitor
Good morning to you. "Yes - it is time to socialize the entertainment industry and Congress. FTFY! Most of the congresscritters and all the ones in the Senate are very wealthy people in their own right, and, aside from getting 100% complete health care - incuding dental and vision - FREE and pensions anyone would envy, they just voted an additional $93,000 "expenses money" increase for themselves.
Buncha mutts, all of 'em.

670 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:42:32am

re: #613 Golem Akbar

Speaking of which (I know you jest), the entertainment industry loves to criticize the outsourcing of jobs to India and places outside the US, yet more and more filming is being done in Canada and other spots outside of Hollywood. Business is fleeing California rapidly, for places with lower taxes to pay, lower overhead (i.e. less unionization of workers). Cognitive dissonance.

Yup. The entertainment industry is capitalist. It is fleeing California because it is getting taxed to death like every other industry here.

You would think that "creative" people would know that capitalism works quite well for creative pursuits.

671 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:42:43am

re: #657 Dustoff-507

LOL, been there done that. I had a BUTTER BAR LT and o-brother did I make life hard for him. (-:

Not heard the term Butter Bar LT in years..:)

Butter, butter, Butter Barrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...:)

672 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:42:51am

re: #667 monkeytime

exactly....I didn't want to be stuck with something I was afraid to use because it was uncomfortable

673 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:43:06am

I just love the way Aussie Dave at Israellycoolsays it:

'2:20PM: One of the criticially injured Hamasholes in the IAF strike earlier today has now become one dead Hamashole.'

Good work, IAF!

674 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My Mom dated Frankie Avalon, or as he was known then, Francis Avallone.

I never dated anybody who became famous.
Neither did my mom.

675 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:43:33am

re: #656 claspur

immpressive Steve. :o)

my old girlfriends' eldest brother bought dope for The Band when they were back in town....a couple of them grew up in Gloceste, and friends....which led to Dead dealings too...lol

I have a very good buddy out east that has stocked up some famous bands for years...he's still making a small fortune...his foto collection of shows etc is just mind boggling...and I weasle in too when I'm up there...heh

676 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:44:01am

re: #671 Dustyvet


MEMORIES............... (-:

677 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #607 Dustoff-507
Good morning my friend! I think y'all could do me a favor and look for TWO of those jobs!

678 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:44:49am

re: #671 Dustyvet

Not heard the term Butter Bar LT in years..:)

Butter, butter, Butter Barrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...:)

The worse part his last name was ( LT Loser) 0-:

679 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:44:51am

re: #673 yma o hyd

I just love the way Aussie Dave at Israellycoolsays it:

'2:20PM: One of the criticially injured Hamasholes in the IAF strike earlier today has now become one dead Hamashole.'

Good work, IAF!

Expired eh...:)

680 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:44:59am

re: #670 karmic_inquisitor

Yup. The entertainment industry is capitalist. It is fleeing California because it is getting taxed to death like every other industry here.

You would think that "creative" people would know that capitalism works quite well for creative pursuits.

Exactly. Wonder how singers would feel if they were told they'd be fully subsidized for each album produced. However, the lyrics for each cut would have to be sent to their government "agent" for approval before going into the studio. Further, they would be reimbursed for each album sold, at a rate pre-determined by the government.

When they scream bloody murder, just say - well, that's what you want for healthcare in this country, isn't it?

681 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:45:10am

re: #642 Syrah

When I lived in San Jose, I would on occasion pack the car with a lunch and my cameras and drive up to the Lick Observatory on Mt. Hamilton.

The clean and still air would make me feel human again.

I love observatory live cams. Here's Kitt Peak in AZ

682 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:45:15am

re: #679 Dustyvet

Expired eh...:)

Gone to meet its maker ...

683 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:45:19am

re: #677 realwest

Good morning my friend! I think y'all could do me a favor and look for TWO of those jobs!


No-way... I can't work for YOU! LOL

684 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:45:21am

re: #674 reine.de.tout

I went to school with Brandon Cruz....kid on Courtship of Eddie's Father...we were in student government together. Of course, the young ones would not know about that old show

685 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:45:33am

re: #678 Dustoff-507

The worse part his last name was ( LT Loser) 0-:

There went another keyboard.:)

686 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:45:46am

re: #567 Kosh's Shadow

Jimmy Durante was smashing pianos before the Who were born. The Schnoz.
I haven't heard anything of his in years, but remember him from the Ed Sullivan show.

I especially like his delivery of "The September Song"...

/wow!

687 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:08am

re: #650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My Mom dated Frankie Avalon, or as he was known then, Francis Avallone.

Not musical, but I had a cousin who was in the same amateur theater group as Leonard Nimoy.

688 Gray Skies  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:09am

re: #18 capitalist piglet

Are you from Washington State, then? I live in Washington State as well. I was born and raised in Seattle, and I love the area except for the politics. It has reached the point now where the liberal political climate has finally trumped my comfort zone. My husband and I will be leaving the area before the year is out.

689 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:11am

re: #677 realwest


Hey buddy, when I get home today I have a great video to send ya.

690 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:12am

re: #669 realwest

Buncha mutts, all of 'em.

Hey RW!

Now I was thinking of a different word than "mutts". I was thinking of a certain rear-facing orifice that one finds on a mutt, and that other mutts sniff so as to orient themselves to other said mutts.

691 rawmuse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:31am

Good morning, Lizards! What fresh hell has BHO unleashed today?

692 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:34am

re: #674 reine.de.tout

I never dated anybody who became famous.
Neither did my mom.

Hiya {reine}!

Same here ...!

Might it be genetic, or something?

693 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:39am

re: #614 albusteve
You're quite welcome! Just listening to his music has made this a great day for me - gonna have to do it more often!

694 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:46:46am

re: #685 Dustyvet


LOL... You know, I felt sorry for the poor guy.

695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:47:21am

re: #674 reine.de.tout

I almost went out with Tai Collins once. Thought she was a vapid, shallow little shit. Wasn't nearly as hot then as she was when she was fuc...ahem massaging a Senator.

696 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:47:29am

re: #692 yma o hyd

Hiya {reine}!

Same here ...!

Might it be genetic, or something?

yep
Or a matter of never being in the right place at the right time LOL.

697 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:47:30am

re: #684 kawfytawk

I went to school with Brandon Cruz....kid on Courtship of Eddie's Father...we were in student government together. Of course, the young ones would not know about that old show

the bass for Metallica grew up in my village and went to my high school...big whoop...he still goes back to hang out I hear

698 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:47:49am

re: #688 Gray Skies


I SO understand that one. Christy is killing us... )-:

699 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:47:59am

re: #673 yma o hyd

I just love the way Aussie Dave at Israellycoolsays it:

'2:20PM: One of the criticially injured Hamasholes in the IAF strike earlier today has now become one dead Hamashole.'

Good work, IAF!

Paradise needs more virgins.

700 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:48:02am

re: #695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I almost went out with Tai Collins once. Thought she was a vapid, shallow little shit. Wasn't nearly as hot then as she was when she was fuc...ahem massaging a Senator.

Hm.
Does almost count?

701 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:48:13am

re: #691 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! What fresh hell has BHO unleashed today?

Good morning, rawmuse.

Is PB0 up yet?
I had him pegged for a late riser ...

702 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:48:18am

re: #700 reine.de.tout

Hm.
Does almost count?

Yes. Yes it does.

703 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #694 Dustoff-507

LOL... You know, I felt sorry for the poor guy.

I do too...:)

704 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:48:39am

re: #687 Kosh's Shadow

And I crashed a party out in the Carmel Valley in 1965, and danced with a tall, skinny and rather shy young lady, who appreciated that (although I had a military haircut) I WAS the tallest guy at the private party, and she COULD slow dance with me...

/Joan Baez

705 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #687 Kosh's Shadow

Not musical, but I had a cousin who was in the same amateur theater group as Leonard Nimoy.

who's he?


jus kidding

706 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:49:24am

re: #680 subsailor68

Exactly. Wonder how singers would feel if they were told they'd be fully subsidized for each album produced. However, the lyrics for each cut would have to be sent to their government "agent" for approval before going into the studio. Further, they would be reimbursed for each album sold, at a rate pre-determined by the government.

When they scream bloody murder, just say - well, that's what you want for healthcare in this country, isn't it?

Or how about this - your proposal for funding of your next album requires you to disclose your socio-economic status and racial makeup, which are used to determine whether or not the project goes forward. Talent or market demand be damned.

707 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:49:29am

re: #1 coquimbojoe

What will the new week bring?

Gas prices are still sitting around 41 dollars a barrel, but pump prices are going up. What gives?

Stock market down over 1000 points since election day.

Investors say current stimulus bill has no job stimulation. They are worried.

To bad they didn't get an American to preform at the Super Bowl half time.

708 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:04am

re: #696 reine.de.tout

yep
Or a matter of never being in the right place at the right time LOL.

Yeah - it happens ...

Mind - I actually prefer it this way. Less hassle all round!

709 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:09am

re: #697 albusteve

the bass for Metallica grew up in my village and went to my high school...big whoop...he still goes back to hang out I hear

gracing everyone with his presence I suppose?...lol

710 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:16am

re: #704 Karridine


Carmel Valley in 1965,

Outside of San Diego?

711 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:17am

re: #629 jwb7605 Huh, I don't know - never heard of the Masked Marauders - didja Wiki 'em? Or google 'em?
If not I'll see what I can find on Imeem!

712 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:49am

re: #706 karmic_inquisitor

Or how about this - your proposal for funding of your next album requires you to disclose your socio-economic status and racial makeup, which are used to determine whether or not the project goes forward. Talent or market demand be damned.

Uh, oh. I think between our two posts, we've just given the NEA the framework for their proposal for stimulus funding!

;-)

713 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:50am

re: #704 Karridine

And I crashed a party out in the Carmel Valley in 1965, and danced with a tall, skinny and rather shy young lady, who appreciated that (although I had a military haircut) I WAS the tallest guy at the private party, and she COULD slow dance with me...

/Joan Baez

So, did she include you in one of her two "Love Song to a Stranger" songs?

714 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:53am

re: #699 Kosh's Shadow

Paradise needs more virgins.

Raisins, dear boy, raisins!

715 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:57am

re: #693 realwest

You're quite welcome! Just listening to his music has made this a great day for me - gonna have to do it more often!

you're always in a good mood...you collect on your bet?

716 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:14am

re: #636 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

The snow has arrived in England!
Its the top story on the BBC News Page, here!

Yep - everything has come to a grinding halt, and although its a bit more than the predicted 2 inches, it will still seem wimpy to you - but hey, its the UK, what do you expect!

:-)))

Yeah, I saw and read those articles. Had to stifle a chuckle. Having driven through enough heavy snowfalls this year, and in years previous around Chicagoland and up north (Michigan's Upper Peninsula), a foot of snow is still quite a bit. However, we usually get right back to work the next day almost as if nothing happened.

IIRC, this winter, we've already seen about 50 inches of snow locally, and NW Indiana will get hammered with up to 8 more inches of lake-effect snow tonight and tomorrow.

Global warming, indeed.

717 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:20am

re: #706 karmic_inquisitor

Nah... remember, we can now claim to be any race we see ourselves as... thanks to the Demoblicans and Republicrats....

718 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:45am

re: #672 kawfytawk

exactly....I didn't want to be stuck with something I was afraid to use because it was uncomfortable

Good luck! I wonder if he has a nice little pink number that would work for me? :>)

719 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:49am

re: #695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I almost went out with Tai Collins once. Thought she was a vapid, shallow little shit. Wasn't nearly as hot then as she was when she was fuc...ahem massaging a Senator.

I had a Tom Collins once. Didn't care for it.

720 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:55am

re: #714 yma o hyd

Raisins, dear boy, raisins!

I thought they were virgin demons with sharp objects within their, well, ...

721 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:52:13am

well...gotta go start my day...daughter leaves for China in a few days and we have last minute packing/buying to do.

thanks to all for the gun info....will let you know what I get :O)

722 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:52:14am

re: #708 yma o hyd

Yeah - it happens ...

Mind - I actually prefer it this way. Less hassle all round!

Yes, indeed.
Although it might be nice to have a story to tell.
And you know - being as we're here all anonymous on the internet and all - how do we know we can believe anything anybody is telling us?

Maybe I should just make up a story.

723 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:52:34am

re: #710 Dustoff-507

South of Monterey... where I was studying Korean, on my way to the DMZ there, rather than Veeet Nam...

724 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:52:44am

re: #703 Dustyvet

I do too...:)

A young, freshly minted lieutenant was sent to Bosnia as part
of the peace keeping mission. During a briefing on land mines,
the captain asked for questions.

Our intrepid solder raised his hand and asked, "If we do happen
to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?"

"Normal procedure, Lieutenant, is to jump 200 feet in the air
and scatter oneself over a wide area."

725 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:52:48am

re: #718 monkeytime

Good luck! I wonder if he has a nice little pink number that would work for me? :>)

thats what I was secretly hoping for...LOL

726 rawmuse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:03am

re: #701 yma o hyd

Good morning, rawmuse.

Is PB0 up yet?
I had him pegged for a late riser ...

Could be, hmm.

727 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:15am

re: #713 Kosh's Shadow

Nah, by that time she was anti-American and WAAAY anti-soljers...

728 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:26am
729 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:28am

re: #709 kawfytawk

gracing everyone with his presence I suppose?...lol

my son met him a few times....very humble friendly guy I'm told...does not bring his fame back home

730 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:45am

re: #695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I almost went out with Tai Collins once. Thought she was a vapid, shallow little shit. Wasn't nearly as hot then as she was when she was fuc...ahem massaging a Senator.

re: #672 kawfytawk

exactly....I didn't want to be stuck with something I was afraid to use because it was uncomfortable

Hey, a new game, I use Lizards posts and Lizards replies, to create my own comments and replies. See above.

731 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:56am

re: #636 yma o hyd
Hi {Yma} - wow, "the South East could be under a foot (30cm) of snow and the North East under 20 inches (50cm)."
Down here in North Carolina EVERYTHING would come to a screeching halt for that much snow -'cept all those folks goin' out for Duraflame logs, candles and flashlight batteries, I mean! LOL!
How are you today?

732 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:56am

re: #716 Honorary Yooper

We had so much snow in central Mass I had to get someone to come in with a front-end loader to get rid of the snow on each side of the driveway so we could move the cars and actually see what was coming down the road.
Fortunately, our neighbor across the street does that kind of stuff, and did it cheap.

733 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:05am

re: #718 monkeytime

Good luck! I wonder if he has a nice little pink number that would work for me? :>)

Why yes, in fact

They do

:-)

734 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:34am

re: #723 Karridine


WOW... We have the same place outside of San Diego. Back in the 60's our town was pretty layed back.

735 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:42am

re: #714 yma o hyd

Raisins, dear boy, raisins!

Raisins? One of my favorite South Park episodes!

736 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:49am

re: #716 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, I saw and read those articles. Had to stifle a chuckle. Having driven through enough heavy snowfalls this year, and in years previous around Chicagoland and up north (Michigan's Upper Peninsula), a foot of snow is still quite a bit. However, we usually get right back to work the next day almost as if nothing happened.

IIRC, this winter, we've already seen about 50 inches of snow locally, and NW Indiana will get hammered with up to 8 more inches of lake-effect snow tonight and tomorrow.

Global warming, indeed.

Indeed - and the Gorebull disciples are still on about how this is incontrovertible evidence!

Mind - I'm very happy with this cold and frosty winter: ground is frozen hard for at least an inch and a half - that means the slug and snail eggs will have been killed off! And if one lives in slugs' paradise, that is really good news!

737 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:52am
738 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:55:02am

re: #730 Walter L. Newton

Hey, a new game, I use Lizards posts and Lizards replies, to create my own comments and replies. See above.

Now that was funny, Walter!

739 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:55:13am

re: #712 subsailor68

Uh, oh. I think between our two posts, we've just given the NEA the framework for their proposal for stimulus funding!

;-)

Well I would LOVE for the entertainment industry to experience collectivization, seeing as that is their solution for everyone else.

Barbara Streisand will have to sell her Malibu Palace and provide the proceeds to the collective. She will then get a clean and safe trailer to live in along with the session artists and recording engineers and set designers and everyone else. People get paid based on their needs, so the gaffer with 9 kids gets far more pay than she, the old spinster, gets. Same for Robert Redford.

Doctor, heal thyself.

740 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:55:21am

re: #724 Dustyvet


LOL........................ No way!

741 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:55:21am

re: #641 albusteve
Really? Was she broken up when she heard that he'd killed himself?
I swear Del was THE BEST bar band singer around. Bar none.

742 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:55:32am

re: #730 Walter L. Newton

bad bad Mr Newton...LOL

743 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:05am

re: #720 Kosh's Shadow

I thought they were virgin demons with sharp objects within their, well, ...

Ooooohhhhh .....
Now thats a very nice twist - very nice indeed!

(Don't tell'em, let them get their surprise!)

744 Optimizer  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:23am

re: #39 zombie

You know what's weird about February 2?

The sun sets in the same place on the horizon on that day as it does on November 11.

11/11 = 2/2

1+1+1+1 = 4
2+2=4

I noticed that long ago as a kid when I saw that the sun set directly behind a distinctive landmark as seen from my window one year on November 11; and then I noticed it did the same thing on February 2 the following year.

I thought it numerically bizarre that 11/11 and 2/2 were arithmetic mirror images of each other on our solar calendar, but as far as I've ever been able to figure, its just a bizarre random coincidence. A fluke.

It you don't believe me, and have a year to spare, you can check it out yourself next time: stand in a memorable unique spot on Nov. 11, and note carefully where the sun sets. Then make sure to stand in the exact same place the following Feb. 2. The sun will set precisely in the same spot.

It would make more sense if November 11 was exactly as far from the solstice as was February 2, but Nov. 11 is 41 days before Dec. 21, and Feb. 2 is 43 days after Dec. 21.

Strange. It should be 42 days/42 days. Not sure why there is an offset -- perhaps something to do with the solstice falling on the night of the 21nd or something? Or maybe an astronomer can explain why the location of the sun 41 days before the solstice is the same as 43 days after.

So the half-way point between sunset on 11NOV and sunset on 02FEB is sunset on 22DEC.

I would first note that the winter solstice is not always on 21DEC; sometimes it's on 22DEC (sometimes even 20DEC or 23DEC. according to one source).

Second, since the winter solstice represents the minimum amount of daylight (in the Northern Hemisphere, anyway), this is also the time when the rate of change in the Sun's apparent altitude in the sky changes the most slowly. It changes the fastest at the equinoxes; we're talking about a point in time about half-way inbetween.

Third, at my latitude (about half-way up), i think the azimuth of sunset only varies about +/- 30 degrees during the whole year, so the average movement would be only about 1/3 deg/day (less than a diamater of the Sun).

So, to the limits of the observation it might be reasonable that it comes out "exactly" the same on those two days. It's an interesting curiousity.

re: #42 BlueCanuck

Darn, going to have to wait a year to check this out here up north. But I think it may have something to do with the elliptical orbit we follow around the sun.

The Earth comes closest to the Sun close to the middle of the period in question (in early JAN), so this is unlikely to have much effect.

745 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:44am

re: #730 Walter L. Newton

Kind of like a ransom note?

746 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:47am

re: #739 karmic_inquisitor

Well I would LOVE for the entertainment industry to experience collectivization, seeing as that is their solution for everyone else.

Barbara Streisand will have to sell her Malibu Palace and provide the proceeds to the collective. She will then get a clean and safe trailer to live in along with the session artists and recording engineers and set designers and everyone else. People get paid based on their needs, so the gaffer with 9 kids gets far more pay than she, the old spinster, gets. Same for Robert Redford.

Doctor, heal thyself.

Actually, I think you've hit on something. About six months of that and we'd seen nothing but stars cutting public service announcements for conservative candidates!

747 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:50am

re: #707 Walter L. Newton

Gas prices are still sitting around 41 dollars a barrel, but pump prices are going up. What gives?

What gas prices are going up? They're going down here, penny by penny. A couple of weeks ago, we were in the $1.90s, now it's down to the $1.80s.

748 Colonel Panik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:56am

re: #691 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! What fresh hell has BHO unleashed today?

He's about to shove his terrorist loving, Second Amendment hating, crook pardoning Attorney General nominee Eric Holder down our throats. Senate is voting on his nomination today, I've heard.

I know you live in the PRC but you should call or fax FineSwine and DumberthanaBoxofRox and express your opposition anyway.

749 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:56am

re: #740 Dustoff-507

LOL........................ No way!

During the Six Day War, this division of Arabs is making its way across
the burning desert sands towards Israel, when the Arab commander, bouncing
along in his jeep, spots an aged Israeli on top a distant sand dune. The
commander drops his binoculars and shouts orders to a foot soldier to run
up ahead and kill the infidel Israeli. The soldier sprints ahead of the
advancing troops, and soon disappears over the sand dune. The general
stops the troops and waits to see what happens.

Nothing happens. The commander sends a whole platoon of soldiers to
investigate. All twelve Arabs disappear over the sand dune, never to be
seen again. The now-slightly-anxious commander dispatches 3 tanks to find
out just what in the heck is going on, and they disappear over the dune,
too. Sweat pours down the commander's forehead as he orders his entire
division to overrun the solitary Israeli behind the sand dune.

But just then, the first soldier reappears on the distant sand dune and
cups his hands to his lips. "Go back!" he shouts. "Go back! It's
hopeless-- there's TWO of them!"

750 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:57am

Good morning folks,

Here's the perfect gift for the woman of a certain age who has everything... think of it as a lifetime achievement award.

P.S: who the heck thinks of these things?

751 kawfytawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:57:01am

ok...now I'm really gone...have a good day folks

752 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:57:02am
753 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:57:38am

re: #738 reine.de.tout

Now that was funny, Walter!

Thanks. I don't know what hits me sometimes. I call that the writer in me, because that's sort of the same way I write. I don't usually sit down and say "time to write." I only write, or continue a project, when a "flash" comes to me. It's like an out of control computer going on in my head, and all I have to do is recognize when a good or interesting thought zips by.

754 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:57:40am

re: #662 subsailor68

Ah, then you married well!

:-)

Reminds me of a cartoon that was on a bulletin board on the Independence.
Showed a woman in her bedroom with several others including animals circus freaks along with a few other weirdos. She had a a sailor wearing nothing but his dixie cup and a cigarette laying next to her. Her husband in his army uniform opens the door and says.
Oh Martha! A sailor ? How could you?
Of course that was a long time ago.

755 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #734 Dustoff-507

Carmel in 1964-65 was where I learned about surfing and skateboarding... "skateboarding" THEN meant, "Here, balance on this 2-by-4 with the two roller-skate wheels on the front and back ends, and vooom down this Carmel main drag, toward the ocean, 300 vertical feet below us, and try not to die or splatter yourself or others on the way down..."

Left a lot of skin on the road...

Moonbat City, it were, with quaint lil shops and quaint lil queers...

756 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:58:24am

re: #754 kcladderman

Okay, now THAT'S funny!

:-)

757 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:58:28am

re: #702 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In that case, I almost dated Angelina Jolie... except that I never actually met her and so never got a chance to ask her out.

758 rawmuse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:58:38am

re: #748 Colonel Panik

Good suggestion. Done.

759 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:03am

re: #749 Dustyvet


HAHAHAHA. Now I need a new key board!

760 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:06am

re: #736 yma o hyd

Indeed - and the Gorebull disciples are still on about how this is incontrovertible evidence!

Mind - I'm very happy with this cold and frosty winter: ground is frozen hard for at least an inch and a half - that means the slug and snail eggs will have been killed off! And if one lives in slugs' paradise, that is really good news!

Heh. The ground freezes here, but we get all kinds of bugs (and even slugs and snails) in the warmer months. Want some of our ground-freezing resistant species? ;-)

761 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:07am

re: #747 Honorary Yooper

What gas prices are going up? They're going down here, penny by penny. A couple of weeks ago, we were in the $1.90s, now it's down to the $1.80s.

They are up to almost 2.00 in the west, in some places. Stuart Varney says it happening all over the country, little by little. Just wait a few weeks.

762 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:12am

re: #697 albusteve

Which one?

TAP
TAP,
R

763 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:15am

re: #722 reine.de.tout

Yes, indeed.
Although it might be nice to have a story to tell.
And you know - being as we're here all anonymous on the internet and all - how do we know we can believe anything anybody is telling us?

Maybe I should just make up a story.

Aww, well, this is Lizardia - they sure won't tell porkies!

Don't know if that counts, but I once was in the same swimming pool when one of our Olympic swimmers did lengths, for medical tests.
Gawd, he made it look so easy ...

764 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:53am

re: #757 Kenneth

Wow! You almost dated Angelina Jolie. I am impress.

765 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:59am

re: #668 UFO TOFU
Morning UFO TOFU! Sorry but all I get is the continuously spinning wheel - link won't come up for me - what was it you linked to?!

766 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:30am

re: #753 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. I don't know what hits me sometimes. I call that the writer in me, because that's sort of the same way I write. I don't usually sit down and say "time to write." I only write, or continue a project, when a "flash" comes to me. It's like an out of control computer going on in my head, and all I have to do is recognize when a good or interesting thought zips by.

Must be exhausting to be you, then, LOL.

I don't get flashes of any kind. With me, it's more like slow stewing - the good or interesting thought occurs to me so far after the fact that it makes no sense to anyone but me.

767 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:43am

re: #658 darkster2400

Obamamania - Greg-alogue about Obama

768 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:45am

re: #755 Karridine


Sweet. I was more into Surfboards. Not sidewalks! LOL

769 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:54am

re: #752 buzzsawmonkey

So--who's having pork sausages for Ground Hog Day?

This is pitiful. A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. What a hype. Well, it used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out, and they used to eat it. You're hypocrites, all of you! You have a problem with what I'm saying, Larry?

770 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:03am

re: #741 realwest

Really? Was she broken up when she heard that he'd killed himself?
I swear Del was THE BEST bar band singer around. Bar none.

no more than saddened as I recall...my sis had a colorful teen and young adult life...a true rocker at heart....she kept up with his career and still has some mutual friends I believe...I never got to meet him

771 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:06am

re: #757 Kenneth

In that case, I almost dated Angelina Jolie... except that I never actually met her and so never got a chance to ask her out.

I was almost the first astronaut to win the Super Bowl, except that I've never been in space & don't play football.

772 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:09am

re: #767 Golem Akbar

Red Eye!

773 Colonel Panik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:16am

re: #758 rawmuse

Good suggestion. Done.

Excellent RM! How about the rest of you lizards?

774 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:27am

re: #769 Honorary Yooper

Direct quote! Nice.

775 Harry Tuttle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:29am

So the state of CA apparently is threatening to provide IOU's instead of refunding YOUR MONEY when there is a refund due, if they don't get bailout money.

This according to my H&R block tax peep.

When is enough enough? When can we start throwing these crooks in prison for mismanaging our once great and prosperous nation.

776 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:40am

re: #732 Kosh's Shadow

We had so much snow in central Mass I had to get someone to come in with a front-end loader to get rid of the snow on each side of the driveway so we could move the cars and actually see what was coming down the road.
Fortunately, our neighbor across the street does that kind of stuff, and did it cheap.

SWEET! I think I will get it before Lizards are banned from having them.

777 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:44am

re: #757 Kenneth

In that case, I almost dated Angelina Jolie... except that I never actually met her and so never got a chance to ask her out.

I've had Madonna over to my apartment. And that can be proven. Search LGF for Madonna and me. (Self fulfilling prophecy)

778 UFO TOFU  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:54am

re: #750 Kenneth

P.S: who the heck thinks of these things?

The same people who thought up this.

779 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:16am

re: #763 yma o hyd

Aww, well, this is Lizardia - they sure won't tell porkies!

Don't know if that counts, but I once was in the same swimming pool when one of our Olympic swimmers did lengths, for medical tests.
Gawd, he made it look so easy ...

That counts!

780 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:39am

re: #714 yma o hyd

Raisins, dear boy, raisins!

re: #764 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yup, & I almost won the Superbowl.

781 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:03:20am

re: #761 Walter L. Newton

They are up to almost 2.00 in the west, in some places. Stuart Varney says it happening all over the country, little by little. Just wait a few weeks.

Who the heck is Stuart Varney? Gas prices seem to have been going down in some parts of the country and going up in others. There's nothing new and/or different. I suspect that gas prices will stay lower due to the recession, and may have been artificially inflated to being with.

782 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:03:30am

re: #731 realwest

Hi {Yma} - wow, "the South East could be under a foot (30cm) of snow and the North East under 20 inches (50cm)."
Down here in North Carolina EVERYTHING would come to a screeching halt for that much snow -'cept all those folks goin' out for Duraflame logs, candles and flashlight batteries, I mean! LOL!
How are you today?

Hiya {rw}!

As we're still without snow, just cold, I'm quietly amused about all those stories coming from England.
Wish we had some snow - the dogs adore it, and the hard frozen ground isn't good for their joints.
But spring is definitely coming soon - in a sheltered, South-facing spot I saw the first daffodils, with nice flower buds, just waiting for some sun. Daffs are the National flower of Wales, we even ahve our own native species - and they usually flower by the end of February.

How are you today - did you like that Super Bowl game yesterday?

783 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:03:44am

re: #769 Honorary Yooper

This is pitiful. A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. What a hype. Well, it used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out, and they used to eat it. You're hypocrites, all of you! You have a problem with what I'm saying, Larry?

"Don't you have a back-up line, for emergencies or celebrities? I'm both - a celebrity in an emergency!"

784 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:03:47am

re: #766 reine.de.tout

Must be exhausting to be you, then, LOL.

I don't get flashes of any kind. With me, it's more like slow stewing - the good or interesting thought occurs to me so far after the fact that it makes no sense to anyone but me.

That's just what my ex-wifes and partners have always said. And I am not kidding. But everyone has quirks, mine are not harmful or dangerous.

785 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:01am

re: #768 Dustoff-507

I hear you, Carmel sidewalks approach the vertical... REALLY steep hill...

And the SURF is cold, not very high.... but we body-womped there, and it was the epitome of teenage coolth! :D

786 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:02am

I met William Conrad. It was before he was schtooping that Senator.

787 rawmuse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:04am

re: #775 Harry Tuttle

So the state of CA apparently is threatening to provide IOU's instead of refunding YOUR MONEY when there is a refund due, if they don't get bailout money.

This according to my H&R block tax peep.

When is enough enough? When can we start throwing these crooks in prison for mismanaging our once great and prosperous nation.

The whole system is working contrary to it's design. Now, it is the State on top and the people have been reduced to serfdom.

788 kcladderman  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:24am

re: #747 Honorary Yooper

What gas prices are going up? They're going down here, penny by penny. A couple of weeks ago, we were in the $1.90s, now it's down to the $1.80s.

Up about 10 cents in KC over the last couple weeks. Thats still only $1.70 ish

789 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:28am

At the Russian War College, the general is a guest lecturer and tells
the class of officers that the session will focus on potential problems
and the resulting strategies.
One of the officers in the class begins by asking the first question,
"Will we have to fight a World War Three?"
"Yes, comrades, looks like you will," answers the general.
"And who will be our enemy, Comrade General?" another officer asks.
"The likelihood is that it will be China."
The class looks alarmed, and finally one officer asks, "But Comrade
General, we are 150 million people and they are about 1.5 billion.
How can we possibly win?"
"Well," replies the general, "Think about it. In modern war, it is
not the quantity, but the quality that is the key. For example, in the
Middle East, 5 million Jews fight against 50 million Arabs, and the Jews
have been the winners every time."
"But sir," asks the panicky officer, "Do we have enough jews"?

790 UFO TOFU  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:30am

re: #765 realwest

Oh, sorry. It was an interesting article on Buddy Holly.

791 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:36am

re: #757 Kenneth

In that case, I almost dated Angelina Jolie... except that I never actually met her and so never got a chance to ask her out.

me and 5 or 6 other people shared a breakfast table with Cher Bono in Aspin back in like 75 or so.... real sweetheart

792 Miss Trixie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:41am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A bright and sparkly winter day in the valley and I'm pleased to find it's warmed up a lot. Six more weeks? How 'bout a nice early Spring for a change?

That's not asking too much ...

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* You're on a rock'n'roll this morning! :D

793 Stonemason  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:42am

re: #769 Honorary Yooper

This is pitiful. A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. What a hype. Well, it used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out, and they used to eat it. You're hypocrites, all of you! You have a problem with what I'm saying, Larry?

I went to school at Indiana University of PA which has a branch in Punxsatawny where the aforementioned rat lives. Today is a holliday out in Western PA, or at least it was in the '80's, much drinking and celebrating, we even made the pilgrimage one year, 5 of us in a '78 Malibu Classic with a trunk full of beer.

/ahhh, good times

794 Colonel Panik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:04am

I'll say it again for those of you who are still preoccupied with pork sausages, the SuperBowl and Angelina Collagenlips:


CALL YOUR SENATORS
FAX YOUR SENATORS
STOP ERIC HOLDER!

795 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:33am

re: #781 Honorary Yooper

Who the heck is Stuart Varney? Gas prices seem to have been going down in some parts of the country and going up in others. There's nothing new and/or different. I suspect that gas prices will stay lower due to the recession, and may have been artificially inflated to being with.

Sort of one of the top business reporters at Fox. I'm just passing on what he said, and what I've seen here. Sorry I made you mad.

796 DaddyG  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:50am

re: #39 zombie

You know what's weird about February 2?

The sun sets in the same place on the horizon on that day as it does on November 11.

...

You know Zombie - its a few short steps from celestial observations to calendar making to temple building... the next thing you know you are sacrificing captured warriors to the sun god by yanking their still beating hearts out of their chests.

/Just say no to Ololiuqui!

797 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:54am

re: #762 Render

Which one?

TAP
TAP,
R

the second...Ive been trying to recall his name...Jason Newsted?

798 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:02am

re: #775 Harry Tuttle

So the state of CA apparently is threatening to provide IOU's instead of refunding YOUR MONEY when there is a refund due, if they don't get bailout money.

This according to my H&R block tax peep.

When is enough enough? When can we start throwing these crooks in prison for mismanaging our once great and prosperous nation.

I saw that somewhere else recently.
How disgusting is that?
It isn't "their" money.
It's YOUR money.
They deducted too much, and now owe it back to you.
How about we all just send the IRS an IOU for what we "owe"? Think that would go over?

799 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:06am

re: #792 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

A bright and sparkly winter day in the valley and I'm pleased to find it's warmed up a lot. Six more weeks? How 'bout a nice early Spring for a change?

That's not asking too much ...

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* You're on a rock'n'roll this morning! :D

Install Safari today, and then we can go for some lunch.

800 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:16am
801 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:20am

re: #793 Stonemason

I went to school at Indiana University of PA which has a branch in Punxsatawny where the aforementioned rat lives. Today is a holliday out in Western PA, or at least it was in the '80's, much drinking and celebrating, we even made the pilgrimage one year, 5 of us in a '78 Malibu Classic with a trunk full of beer.

/ahhh, good times

"Of course, Rita - they're hicks."
/Phil from Ground Hog Day

802 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:26am

re: #786 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I met William Conrad. It was before he was schtooping that Senator.

Well, I did date Katherine McGoohan...

/daughter of "Secret Agent Man" ? Yeah, her...

803 tfc3rid  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:36am

re: #761 Walter L. Newton

They are up to almost 2.00 in the west, in some places. Stuart Varney says it happening all over the country, little by little. Just wait a few weeks.

Gas prices here in NYC are over $2.00 again...

804 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:40am

re: #675 albusteve
That's funny! When I was stationed at the 8th SFG Jungle Operations school in Panama, Led Zep came down to play a concert for all US Forces in the Canal Zone - around 1969 ? - and I thought COOL - but why? They were extremely hot and there were only about 20,000 US Troops, Vietnam war was raging, and they were British!
Long story short, got backstage after Led Zep did an outrageously great, 2+ hour set - they were taking out the guts of all the Marshsall Speaker stacks and loading 'em up with dozens of 5 lb bags of Panama Red pot - I figure they must got close to 700 pounds of the stuff - and then the USAF flew 'em back to the states - no customs or anything like that! LOL!

806 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:07:27am

re: #676 Dustoff-507
and a few nightmares, too! But mostly memories! LOL!

807 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:07:29am

Looks like we have six more weeks of winter on the way, ugh.

A serious question for those of us who live in the Midwest:

Would you rather put up with

a. a long, cold, miserable winter, or
b. a long, hot, miserably humid summer?

808 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:01am

re: #749 Dustyvet

That story is very old, and has in fact been pinched from our Welsh legends. Its been told from the time when the English King Edward I tried to subdue our Northern Welsh Kingdoms.

(And the Arabs just haven't got the Welsh way of telling such a dramatic story with full drama, sound and fury!)

809 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:05am

BBIAW

810 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #807 Irish Rose

Looks like we have six more weeks of winter on the way, ugh.

A serious question for those of us who live in the Midwest:

Would you rather put up with

a. a long, cold, miserable winter, or
b. a long, hot, miserably humid summer?

a

811 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:34am

re: #803 tfc3rid

Gas prices here in NYC are over $2.00 again...

And if the gas prices start going up in Colorado, then you know the rest of the country is in trouble. For what ever reasons, we have some of the cheapest prices in the country.

Back when it was at it's highest last year, we were always about 1.50 lower.

812 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:41am

re: #683 Dustoff-507
Why not - it'd be a step up for you!
:)

813 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:44am

re: #800 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so sad for Senator Daschel; He is embarrassed.


If I failed to my taxes I'd be sent to jail. /It's good that the O-man is able rehabilitate these sofflaws by giving them jobs.

814 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:48am

re: #795 Walter L. Newton

Sort of one of the top business reporters at Fox. I'm just passing on what he said, and what I've seen here. Sorry I made you mad.

Oh, you didn't make me mad (or even upset in the slightest). I had no idea who he was.

I'm at the point where I don't take any talking head's opinions about gas or oil prices seriously. It was just a year ago that they were all telling us we'd have $200/bbl crude and $5/gal gasoline by now.

815 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:27am

re: #760 Honorary Yooper

Heh. The ground freezes here, but we get all kinds of bugs (and even slugs and snails) in the warmer months. Want some of our ground-freezing resistant species? ;-)

No way, thank you very much!
I've been waging all-out war on my slugs for 19 years now, and am just about at even-stevens!

816 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:30am

re: #785 KarridineSan Diego had warm water... 60's to 70 and the waves were nice.

817 Stonemason  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:56am

re: #800 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so sad for Senator Daschel; He is embarrassed.

Eff him...embarrassed that he got caught is more like it.

HopenChangeMyAss

hey...HCMA

I get royalties

818 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:09am

re: #800 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so sad for Senator Daschel; He is embarrassed.

Ohhh.... the heartache of embarrassment!

819 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:22am

re: #807 Irish Rose

Looks like we have six more weeks of winter on the way, ugh.

A serious question for those of us who live in the Midwest:

Would you rather put up with

a. a long, cold, miserable winter, or
b. a long, hot, miserably humid summer?

I'll put up with a. a long, cold, miserable winter, Irish Rose. I've had more than my fill of 95+ degree days, and at 80%+ humidity.

820 tfc3rid  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:27am

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

Walter, about a month of so ago we were down around $1.85, which was the low point. Now, we are back over $2.00...

the last time Oil was $40 a barrel, I don't recall prices being $2.00... I had thought it was more like $1.70.

That said, we got an oil delivery this morning. $280 per gallon, for 160 gallons... Oh baby... At least it isn't $6.00 like last year.

821 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:28am

re: #804 realwest

Wow! Panama Red Flowertop is rumored to be powerful sh*t...

822 Stonemason  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:36am

re: #801 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Of course, Rita - they're hicks."
/Phil from Ground Hog Day

LOL...yup, the best kind too, we liked to share our beer!

823 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:46am

re: #800 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so sad for Senator Daschel; He is embarrassed.

Dashole is "Deeply..... Deeply embarrassed."


Daschel is a lobbyist, a money sucking political whore. He feels embarrassed because he got caught. He never would paid those huge taxes back had he not been appointed by Obama.

824 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:53am

re: #804 realwest

That's funny! When I was stationed at the 8th SFG Jungle Operations school in Panama, Led Zep came down to play a concert for all US Forces in the Canal Zone - around 1969 ? - and I thought COOL - but why? They were extremely hot and there were only about 20,000 US Troops, Vietnam war was raging, and they were British!
Long story short, got backstage after Led Zep did an outrageously great, 2+ hour set - they were taking out the guts of all the Marshsall Speaker stacks and loading 'em up with dozens of 5 lb bags of Panama Red pot - I figure they must got close to 700 pounds of the stuff - and then the USAF flew 'em back to the states - no customs or anything like that! LOL!

wow what a story...you were extremely fortunate to see that early...at that time PR was world class weed!

825 Colonel Panik  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:19am

One more time!

CALL YOUR SENATORS
FAX YOUR SENATORS
STOP ERIC HOLDER!

All right, I've done my Paul Revere bit for the morning, so it's off to work for me. I've called, faxed and emailed Kyl and McCain. Hope it does some good.

Please do the same with your Senators.

826 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:27am

re: #775 Harry Tuttle

So the state of CA apparently is threatening to provide IOU's instead of refunding YOUR MONEY when there is a refund due, if they don't get bailout money.


It's time for torches and pitchforks.

827 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:40am

re: #789 Dustyvet


O-my God... LOL
Would you PLEASE stop! I can't clean my key board fast enough.

828 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:13am

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

And if the gas prices start going up in Colorado, then you know the rest of the country is in trouble. For what ever reasons, we have some of the cheapest prices in the country.

Back when it was at it's highest last year, we were always about 1.50 lower.

they are creeping up in ABQ as well...it's up to 1.80 again...wtf?

829 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:20am
830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:25am

When Democrats fail to pay taxes it is an "unfortunate error" or a "simple oversight".

What is it called when Republicans fail to pay taxes?

831 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:55am

re: #830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When Democrats fail to pay taxes it is an "unfortunate error" or a "simple oversight".

What is it called when Republicans fail to pay taxes?

According to the Democrats, it's high treason.

832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:15am

re: #826 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's time for torches and pitchforks.

Maybe hand-cranked flashlights & pitchforks, torches have too big of a carbon footprint.
/

833 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:22am

re: #827 Dustoff-507

O-my God... LOL
Would you PLEASE stop! I can't clean my key board fast enough.

Okey dokeys...:)

834 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:25am

re: #695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I almost went out with Tai Collins once. Thought she was a vapid, shallow little shit. Wasn't nearly as hot then as she was when she was fuc...ahem massaging a Senator.

My son once dated Shmuley Boteach's daughter.

835 rawmuse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:49am

Later, Lizards, off to work for me.

836 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:55am

Well, time flies when you're having fun heaving fawns, but its past 11PM here in beautiful, dark, jasmine-scented Bangkok suburbia, so I'm gonna make like a tree and leaf...

Nytol :D

837 turn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:14:30am

re: #830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When Democrats fail to pay taxes it is an "unfortunate error" or a "simple oversight".

What is it called when Republicans fail to pay taxes?

The end of your political career. Morning all!

838 Harry Tuttle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:14:46am

re: #826 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's time for torches and pitchforks.

Perhaps but all I see is morons and their 'I'll trade you a Bush for A Levee' bumber stickers.

839 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:15:01am

re: #804 realwest

Then you'll appreciate this old tune!

Good morning, to you!

840 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:15:44am

re: #823 FrogMarch

Dashole is "Deeply..... Deeply embarrassed."

Daschel is a lobbyist, a money sucking political whore. He feels embarrassed because he got caught. He never would paid those huge taxes back had he not been appointed by Obama.

What a bunch of bullshit. I owed about 150 thou on a mortgage, which, because my career went down the poop shoot, I lost. No one let me write an apology letter and work out a deal.

If I was pictured smoking dope through a bong, the cops would be at my door pronto. I wouldn't be sitting around night clubs discussing hiding the sausage with obsessed female fans.

We can't go a week without finding some public figure getting his/her ass in trouble, yet that trouble never leads to anyplace.

There is a class system in this country, it's just not race based.

841 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:55am

re: #839 Kenneth

"Old Tune"?

/lmao, Dewd! :D

842 DeafDog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:37am

re: #599 karmic_inquisitor

Hah! I was going to write a blistering response till I got to the punch line. Good one!

843 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:07am

re: #842 DeafDog

Hah! I was going to write a blistering response till I got to the punch line. Good one!

Thanks.

844 yochanan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:09am

re: #821 Karridine

Wow! Panama Red Flowertop is rumored to be powerful sh*t...

no stem or seeds you don't need.

845 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:50am

re: #797 albusteve

From Arizona - returned to...

NO PLACE
FOR DISGRACE,
R

846 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:54am

re: #844 yochanan


LOL, I don't even want to know, how you KNOW!

847 Harry Tuttle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #844 yochanan

no stem or seeds you don't need.

Am I at the right blog?

:-)

848 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:37am

Morning, all.

You know those ubiquitous ads on the Web for "government grants", "free government money", etc.?

Well, on Facebook at least, they're now cropping up with a new hook.

"Obama just gave me $12,000!"

"I just got a free $17,000 check from Obama!"

Seriously.

They all seem to lead to the same scam page where you sign up for a "grant application program" for just $1.99. The catch - of course there's a catch - is that unless you cancel, they then charge your credit card something like $49.99 a month to continue the "service". And they make it very hard to cancel.

Some don't mention Obama, but tell you to "get your stimulus check now" instead.

This stuff has been out there forever, but man, did they jump on the Obama expectations fast!

Where's my check?

849 WriterMom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:40am

re: #750 Kenneth

That's one for Prince Charles.

850 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:54am

re: #839 Kenneth

Then you'll appreciate this old tune!


[Video]

Good morning, to you!

heh...nice...they be gettin older now

851 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:55am

re: #846 Dustoff-507

Rumors, ... and reports... and locker-room tales... thassall...

853 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:20:29am

re: #840 Walter L. Newton

Democrats are above the law, above shame. All they have to do is cry in front of the camera - and viola!, a free pass.

Then there's this.

"The real gamble in this election is playing the same Washington game with the same Washington players and expecting a different result."


-Barack Obama, December 27, 2007

Obama nominated a lobbyist-- the lowest political life form. What a joke.

855 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:09am

re: #826 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's time for torches and pitchforks.

You can't afford the carbon credits for the torches.

856 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:32am

re: #853 FrogMarch

Democrats are above the law, above shame. All they have to do is cry in front of the camera - and viola!, a free pass.

Then there's this.


-Barack Obama, December 27, 2007

Obama nominated a lobbyist-- the lowest political life form. What a joke.

What is the "exception" explanation he is giving for the nomination, regarding the lobbyist part?

857 WriterMom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:47am

re: #575 Golem Akbar

I read the book. I'm dying to see it. Plus, Daniel Craig as a fighting JOOOO? Irresistable.

858 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:22:40am

re: #845 Render

From Arizona - returned to...


[Video]

NO PLACE
FOR DISGRACE,
R

whoa...SMASHMOUTH!

859 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:05am

BBL - my monthly paycheck is good today, so I better go deposit it before it's not.

That's what it's like working for a non-profit, especially when the economy is in the dumper.

See you all later this morning/afternoon or tomorrow, depending what time zone you are in.

860 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:14am

re: #855 Kosh's Shadow

You can't afford the carbon credits for the torches.

I worked out a trade because the pitchforks are actually composting forks.

861 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:40am

re: #856 jwb7605

What is the "exception" explanation he is giving for the nomination, regarding the lobbyist part?

No explanation needed! Matt Lauer is too busy asking Obama the tough questions.

862 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:24:39am

HOW TO WASH THE CAT

1. Thoroughly clean the toilet.

2. Add the required amount of shampoo to the toilet water and have both
lids up.

3. Find the cat and soothe him while you carry him toward the bathroom.

4. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids.
(You may need to stand on the lid so that he cannot escape.) The cat will
self-agitate and make ample suds. Never mind the noises that come from
your toilet, the cat is actually enjoying this.

CAUTION:
Do not get any part of your body too close to the edge, as his claws will
be reaching out for anything they can find.

5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a Power "Wash"
and "Rinse", which I have found to be quite effective.

6. Have someone open the door to the outside and ensure that there are no
people between the toilet and the outside door.

7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids.

8. The now-clean cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run outside where
he will dry himself.


Sincerely,

THE DOG

863 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:24:41am

re: #800 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so sad for Senator Daschel; He is embarrassed.

Didn't the Obama team have a really, really tough application for appointees with, like, 93 questions and demands for all back emails, correspondence, connections, tax returns, and anal probes to weed out any candidates who might cause embarrassment to the president?

That worked out well.

Either Daschle lied on his application or they decided he was too important to make him fill it out.

864 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:24:50am

And now for some really good news!

'Dramatic improvement in condition of IDF officer injured in Gaza after wedding
Second Lieutenant Aharon Karov, who was severely injured in the fighting in the Gaza Strip, will be released from the Rabin Medical Center in Petach Tikva on Tuesday and transferred to a rehabilitation clinic following a dramatic improvement in his condition.
Karov joined the fighting in Gaza less than a day after his wedding.'

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

865 WriterMom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:11am

re: #864 yma o hyd

Amazing. Thanks for posting that.

866 Ojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:19am

re: #642 Syrah

Thank you for the link to Mt. Hamilton & Lick Observatory, I bookmarked it.

867 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:07am

re: #862 Dustyvet

I'm stealing that!

868 DeafDog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:24am

re: #854 Ben Hur

Major Flip-Flop by Human Rights Watch: Organization Waiting for Obama to Develop Kinder, Gentler Rendition Program

Yet another one.


Echoes of N.O.W. supporting Bill Clinton.

It's so easier the fewer principals you try to maintain.....seriously.

869 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:41am

re: #862 Dustyvet

Teeheehee - don't let goddess see that, or you'll be in deep deep trouble!

;-)

870 yochanan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:42am

re: #862 Dustyvet

how to clean a dog

LEAVE OUT A SUPPLY OF POOP

the cat

871 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:59am

NYT (New York Times) hit its 52 week low of $4.68 today. Chins up, gang. It's not all bad news out there!

872 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:15am

re: #857 WriterMom

I read the book. I'm dying to see it. Plus, Daniel Craig as a fighting JOOOO? Irresistable.


I too read the book. It really makes the book come alive. There are some very graphic scenes in the film that are going to become nightmares, I am afraid. Very disturbing, but still important to see.

873 realwest  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:26am

Well y'all - got a buncha phone calls one after the other and now have to go do some work!
If I didn't answer anyone, I apologize, it couldn't be helped!

Hope I get the chance to see y'all down the road!

874 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:47am

re: #815 yma o hyd

I've been meaning to ask you. Do live near or have you visited Caldey Island? I've been wearing the famous Caldey Island Lavender Water for some time. Whenever I place an order I always receive a note of thanks in the most beautiful handwriting I've ever seen. So unusual in this day and age.

875 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:52am

re: #862 Dustyvet


OMG....

You just couldn't wait, could you! LOL

876 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:58am

re: #858 albusteve

Now with...

THE KING
OF
CONFUSION,
R

877 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:00am

re: #813 Golem Akbar

If I failed to my taxes I'd be sent to jail. /It's good that the O-man is able rehabilitate these sofflaws by giving them jobs.


Exactly - With Congress - it's called "forgot" and it's "embarassing". For us it's called "Tax Evasion" and it's 5-10 with good behavior.

878 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:22am

re: #863 Cato the Elder

Didn't the Obama team have a really, really tough application for appointees with, like, 93 questions and demands for all back emails, correspondence, connections, tax returns, and anal probes to weed out any candidates who might cause embarrassment to the president?

That worked out well.

Either Daschle lied on his application or they decided he was too important to make him fill it out.

Or the questionnaire was for P.R. purposes only, and nobody paid any attention to it on team Obama's part.

If there even is such a thing.

879 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:32am

re: #875 Dustoff-507


OMG....

You just couldn't wait, could you! LOL

Evil Grin...:)

880 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:33am

re: #865 WriterMom

Amazing. Thanks for posting that.

It is wonderful news - huge credit to the Israeli medical teams, and lots of people have been praying for him.

881 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:45am

re: #871 Bloodnok

NYT (New York Times) hit its 52 week low of $4.68 today. Chins up, gang. It's not all bad news out there!

Well the AP informed us that fighting Hamas makes them stronger.

So shorting NYT stock and boycotting their paper will only make them a stronger, better paper.

Tell all of your liberal friends!

882 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:48am

re: #849 WriterMom

LOL!

883 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:24am

re: #861 FrogMarch

No explanation needed! Matt Lauer is too busy asking Obama the tough questions.


I heard one of the talking heads say that Obama gets a 100-day honeymoon period before the media stops giving him carte blanche. After that, people usually start criticizing even their most favorite pols. If Obama wants to get anything done (this logic goes), he'd better do it now.

884 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:42am

re: #862 Dustyvet

That reminds me of this classic Far Side comic

885 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:30:57am

re: #862 Dustyvet

We have a dog who likes to jump up on any chair my wife is about to sit on, just behind her.
One time, she was using the toilet, and he landed in it.
After shaking it off, he never did that again.

886 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:09am

re: #883 Golem Akbar

I heard one of the talking heads say that Obama gets a 100-day honeymoon period before the media stops giving him carte blanche. After that, people usually start criticizing even their most favorite pols. If Obama wants to get anything done (this logic goes), he'd better do it now.

Bush never got 100 days. He didn't get 100 minutes.

Nor did Reagan. Or Bush 41.

100 day "rule" applies to Democrats only. Same goes for Speaker of the House.

887 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:18am

re: #884 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That reminds me of this classic Far Side comic

I miss The Far Side.

888 big steve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:27am

re: #39 zombie

Regarding Zombie's post (#39 above)...and also realizing that he/she is probably now asleep, but it is technically not correct. For example, for San Francisco, CA the sun set on November 11, 2008 at -17.5 degrees and the sun set at -16.7 degrees on Feb 2, 2009.

However, this is a difference of only 0.8 degrees and keep in mind that the sun moves about 0.4 degrees per day so from a distance vantage point marking a landmark it might appear very close to the same sunset point.

Actually the closest sunset point to November 11 is January 30 of the following year which has a sun set angle of -17.6 degrees.

There is a nice calculator of this at the NOAA site....sunset calculator

889 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:43am

re: #883 Golem Akbar

I heard one of the talking heads say that Obama gets a 100-day honeymoon period before the media stops giving him carte blanche. After that, people usually start criticizing even their most favorite pols. If Obama wants to get anything done (this logic goes), he'd better do it now.

Because after 100 days, they'll start grilling him with really tough questions like, "what's your favorite ice cream," & "how did you get to be sooo dreamy?"

890 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:53am

re: #881 karmic_inquisitor

So a share of the company costs less than a Sunday paper? That can't be good.

891 VegasRick  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:07am

re: #876 Render

Now with...



THE KING
OF
CONFUSION,
R

That really needed subtitles...........................IN ENGLISH!

892 Hard Right  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:17am

re: #828 albusteve

they are creeping up in ABQ as well...it's up to 1.80 again...wtf?

$1.92 here in AZ. Last I heard all storage facilities were full of oil and tanker ships were being rented to store the surplus oil. WTF indeed.

893 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:26am

Well all of you fine people. But thanks to DUSTY I have to go and use a fire hose on my key board and screen!

Take care.

894 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:31am

re: #876 Render

Now with...


[Video]

THE KING
OF
CONFUSION,
R

that's the kid....Ozzie needs his own subtitles tho

895 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:33:30am

A quiet moment from Jason.

SHHH,
R

896 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:33:50am

Extremist Palestinian Supporters Square Off in Minnesota, Hamas collides with Fatah


897 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:33:56am

re: #874 Bobblehead

I've been meaning to ask you. Do live near or have you visited Caldey Island? I've been wearing the famous Caldey Island Lavender Water for some time. Whenever I place an order I always receive a note of thanks in the most beautiful handwriting I've ever seen. So unusual in this day and age.

Its not really 'near', its quite a far bit out in the outer reaches of the Bristol Channel. We never managed to get there, but I've seen it from the South Pembrokeshire Coast.

Your Lavender Water is of course made by the Monks of Caldey Island - so I'm not surprised they send you a hand-written thank-you note!

898 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:34:02am

re: #892 Hard Right

$1.92 here in AZ. Last I heard all storage facilities were full of oil and tanker ships were being rented to store the surplus oil. WTF indeed.

Maybe the oil companies feel that they're going to be nationalized or have the sweet, light shit taxed out of them in the next 100 days, so they better make as much money as they can before then?

899 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:00am

re: #886 karmic_inquisitor

Bush never got 100 days. He didn't get 100 minutes.

Nor did Reagan. Or Bush 41.

100 day "rule" applies to Democrats only. Same goes for Speaker of the House.


You are right, of course. I've given Obama until about yesterday, and now I'm sending my buds all kinds of stuff, to remind them that the "O" has finally gone too far. Here's the latest.

900 Irish Rose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:16am

re: #889 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Any person who says that BO is "dreamy" should have their eyes examined.

901 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:26am

re: #854 Ben Hur

Major Flip-Flop by Human Rights Watch: Organization Waiting for Obama to Develop Kinder, Gentler Rendition Program

Yet another one.

Heh...

Bush in office .... Rendition bad.
Obama in office ... Rendition good.

CHANGE!

902 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:30am

re: #892 Hard Right

$1.92 here in AZ. Last I heard all storage facilities were full of oil and tanker ships were being rented to store the surplus oil. WTF indeed.

Part of the reason for prices going up is that refineries have started the transition to summer blends. So there is a little less supply at the moment. Summer will be interesting. If the economy is truly shrinking the floor will fall out.

903 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:31am

re: #885 Kosh's Shadow

We have a dog who likes to jump up on any chair my wife is about to sit on, just behind her.
One time, she was using the toilet, and he landed in it.
After shaking it off, he never did that again.

Omigawd - that made me LOL!

Just what I needed on this grey day!

904 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:43am

re: #895 Render

A quiet moment from Jason.


[Video]

SHHH,
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MORE
MY
STYLE!
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905 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:12am

re: #902 karmic_inquisitor

Part of the reason for prices going up is that refineries have started the transition to summer blends. So there is a little less supply at the moment. Summer will be interesting. If the economy is truly shrinking the floor will fall out.

My favorite is the Octoberfest blend. Spicy!

906 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:37:21am

re: #881 karmic_inquisitor

On a related note,

Waterloo only made Napoleon stronger.

Sherman's March only made the Confederate Army stronger.

D-Day only made the Germans stronger.

Defeating the Italians at Monte Casino only made them stronger.

Defeating Rommel at the Battle of el Alamein only made the Afrika Korps stronger.

Dropping the A-bomb on Hiroshima only made the Japanese Imperial Army stronger.

907 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:37:52am

re: #890 Lincolntf

So a share of the company costs less than a Sunday paper? That can't be good.

Not really an indicator. Many companies' share prices are far less than the cost of their products. You can't by an iMac for a share of Apple.

I know, I'm being pedantic. It's not my time of day for wit.

What was NYT's high before the tumble, anyone know?

908 big steve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #900 Irish Rose

Any person who says that BO is "dreamy" should have their eyes examined.

Yea I never understood that as well. He looks goofy to me. However, in that women often accuse men of having never evolved from apehood, I find that women still have in their DNA to have the hots for the alpha male. I mean come on, put Bill Clinton in some cubicle with the rest of us working stiffs, and do you think that some 20 year old intern would be showing him her panties the first time they met?

909 DeafDog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:38:49am

re: #906 Kenneth

I suppose, thanks to the Steeleres, the Cardinals are a much stronger team today.

910 ThinkRight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:38:59am

re: #901 eschew_obfuscation

Heh...

Bush in office .... Rendition bad.
Obama in office ... Rendition good.

CHANGE!


Take no prisoner is the solution

911 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:13am

Greets and saluts from the cold NYC metro area (and sans heat because we got a steam leak this AM and am waiting for a plumber to show up). Grrr..BRRRRRR.

Anyhow, this cartoon strikes the right chord today. And I have memories of this to keep me warm.

For all the talk about how Bush screwed the pooch on Katrina, I'm not exactly seeing much of a response from the Obama administration over their handling of the ice storm that has paralyzed Kentucky. Funny how it isn't much of an issue...

Meanwhile, the terrorists in Gaza and West Bank have been real busy, and even Egypt is getting into the act of taking out the smuggling tunnels. It's about damned time, but Israel is still far too restrained in going after Hamas.

912 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:32am

re: #905 Bloodnok

My favorite is the Octoberfest blend. Spicy!


Gas 'em up, I say.

913 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:44am

re: #899 Golem Akbar

You are right, of course. I've given Obama until about yesterday, and now I'm sending my buds all kinds of stuff, to remind them that the "O" has finally gone too far. Here's the latest.

Krauthammers was maybe his best ever....BO is a maniac

914 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:48am

re: #906 Kenneth

On a related note,

All true.

BTW - Ward Churchill and Howard Zinn are looking for a 3rd person to help them write the "Definitive History of the United States." Interested?

/

915 Desert Dog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:17am

re: #886 karmic_inquisitor

Bush never got 100 days. He didn't get 100 minutes.

Nor did Reagan. Or Bush 41.

100 day "rule" applies to Democrats only. Same goes for Speaker of the House.

Obama will have to really screw up for the MSM to stop the honeymoon. Any problems that come up now will be blamed on "8 Years of Bush policy". When this "stimulus package" fails to stimulate anything other than the Democrat power base, they will claim Bush ruined the economy so bad, it will take time to repair it, or some nonsense like that. What we are seeing in Obama is the Constitutionally designated duty of the press being the "watchdog" being ignored and passed by. With the exception of Fox News, Conservative Radio and blogs like this, the entire media of the USA is willing to prostitute themselves and cast off any airs of impartiality because they are in "love" with Obama. I would call this sickening, but that word does not being to describe what is taking place.

916 DeafDog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:27am

re: #907 Cato the Elder

What was NYT's high before the tumble, anyone know?

About 60 in 2002

917 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:06am

re: #913 albusteve

Krauthammers was maybe his best ever....BO is a maniac

Krauthammer article was great and I agree, the first and best yet salvo against BHO.

918 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:17am

I can see Ahmadinejad standing in the nuclear ruins of Teheran, proclaiming "The glorious Islamic Republic of Iran has achieved victory!"
while planes bearing the Magen David fly overhead.
Of course, if his entire population went to paradise, he'd consider it victory.

919 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:48am
920 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:49am

re: #896 Dustyvet

Pass the popcorn!

921 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:02am

re: #909 DeafDog

Now you got it!

922 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:26am

re: #907 Cato the Elder

Not really an indicator. Many companies' share prices are far less than the cost of their products. You can't by an iMac for a share of Apple.

I know, I'm being pedantic. It's not my time of day for wit.

What was NYT's high before the tumble, anyone know?

They hit 53.00 in the week of June 1, 2002. That was their 20 year high.

923 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:46am
924 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:05am

re: #917 Golem Akbar

Krauthammer article was great and I agree, the first and best yet salvo against BHO.

I booked it and sent around myself...there is no room for BO to nuance...he has been dead and you are right...BO must have shit his pants if he read that one

925 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:16am

IMHO Ehud Barak just lost the election:

Barak suggests tunnel connecting between Gaza, West Bank
Labor Party Chairman Ehud Barak said during a meeting with students at Ben-Gurion University that "we can reach a territorial continuity between Judea and Samaria and the Gaza Strip, by digging a 48-kilometer (157.5-feet) tunnel under Israeli sovereignty with Palestinian control of the traffic."
Barak said that the tunnel, which may be dug between Beit Hanoun and a village near Hebron would cost between $2-3 billion, "a reasonable sum."

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

926 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:17am

re: #915 Desert Dog

Obama will have to really screw up for the MSM to stop the honeymoon. Any problems that come up now will be blamed on "8 Years of Bush policy". When this "stimulus package" fails to stimulate anything other than the Democrat power base, they will claim Bush ruined the economy so bad, it will take time to repair it, or some nonsense like that. What we are seeing in Obama is the Constitutionally designated duty of the press being the "watchdog" being ignored and passed by. With the exception of Fox News, Conservative Radio and blogs like this, the entire media of the USA is willing to prostitute themselves and cast off any airs of impartiality because they are in "love" with Obama. I would call this sickening, but that word does not being to describe what is taking place.

How long before the "fairness doctrine" is put in place, and first Fox has to praise the 0 and then conservative blogging is banned?

927 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:29am

re: #914 karmic_inquisitor

Absolutely! Did you know the Revolutionary War only made King George III stronger? No War For Tea!

928 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:49am

re: #897 yma o hyd

Its not really 'near', its quite a far bit out in the outer reaches of the Bristol Channel. We never managed to get there, but I've seen it from the South Pembrokeshire Coast.

Your Lavender Water is of course made by the Monks of Caldey Island - so I'm not surprised they send you a hand-written thank-you note!

Next time I order I'll advise them I get many compliments from perfect strangers on their lovely smelling product.

929 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:23am

re: #915 Desert Dog

Obama will have to really screw up for the MSM to stop the honeymoon. Any problems that come up now will be blamed on "8 Years of Bush policy". When this "stimulus package" fails to stimulate anything other than the Democrat power base, they will claim Bush ruined the economy so bad, it will take time to repair it, or some nonsense like that. What we are seeing in Obama is the Constitutionally designated duty of the press being the "watchdog" being ignored and passed by. With the exception of Fox News, Conservative Radio and blogs like this, the entire media of the USA is willing to prostitute themselves and cast off any airs of impartiality because they are in "love" with Obama. I would call this sickening, but that word does not being to describe what is taking place.

the MSM is my dire enemy....
they abuse the 1st...sinful

930 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:33am

"48-kilometer (157.5-feet)"

Eh?

931 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:41am

re: #927 Kenneth

Absolutely! Did you know the Revolutionary War only made King George III stronger? No War For Tea!

BIG TETLEY IS RIPPING US OFF!

932 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:46am

re: #923 buzzsawmonkey

I hear that they've hired Procrustes as a fact-checker.

I hear he makes pretty good pizzas....

933 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:45:07am

re: #928 Bobblehead

Next time I order I'll advise them I get many compliments from perfect strangers on their lovely smelling product.

Do - I'm sure they will appreciate that!

934 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:46:13am

re: #924 albusteve

caught dead that is

935 AuntAcid  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:46:53am

re: #868 DeafDog

Echoes of N.O.W. supporting Bill Clinton.

It's so easier the fewer principals you try to maintain.....seriously.

...an example of the Stockholm on Drugs Syndrome...

936 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:13am

re: #926 Kosh's Shadow

How long before the "fairness doctrine" is put in place, and first Fox has to praise the 0 and then conservative blogging is banned?

Well with the fairness doctrine, you are required to look at both sides of any given issue.

So Matt Lauer can do a segment on "Is Barack Obama really dreamy?" followed by a segment titled "Barack Obama is most certainly dreamy!"

Then all sides of debate will be covered and we will have a stronger democracy!

/

937 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:16am

Nuts! Tiger can't come today...:(

938 VegasRick  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #896 Dustyvet

Extremist Palestinian Supporters Square Off in Minnesota, Hamas collides with Fatah



Minnesota is so fucked, and they deserve it.

939 Lincolntf  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:37am

Just heard that an American UN worker has been abducted in Pakistan. Anyone know the details?

940 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:48:02am

I'll say one thing, the Russian cops know how to deal with silly environmentalist protesters.

941 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:48:17am
942 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:48:33am

re: #936 karmic_inquisitor

Well with the fairness doctrine, you are required to look at both sides of any given issue.

So Matt Lauer can do a segment on "Is Barack Obama really dreamy?" followed by a segment titled "Barack Obama is most certainly dreamy!"

Then all sides of debate will be covered and we will have a stronger democracy!

/

You forgot the rebuttal argument - "Yes Obama is dreamy, but what can he do to be even more dreamy?"

943 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:48:35am

re: #937 Dustyvet

Nuts! Tiger can't come today...:(

Aww - sorry about that.
But as long as he's getting all the care to make him better, that must be good?

{Dustyvet}

944 Desert Dog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:48:39am

re: #892 Hard Right

$1.92 here in AZ. Last I heard all storage facilities were full of oil and tanker ships were being rented to store the surplus oil. WTF indeed.

It is a complex set of factors that determine the price of gasoline in a local market. There is, of course, the cost of the oil. Then, the transportation of that oil, then the refining, etc. Most markets in the USA have a different type of fuel depending on the season, as well. So, sometimes the supply of a certain kind of fuel is low or high depending on the refineries capabilities. And, you can add in local competition (or lack thereof) that also sets the price.

I can understand all of that, as can most people. BUT, even when we get this explanation, it still boils down to the oil and gasoline companies wanting more $$$$$. If some guy spills a quart of oil while changing the oil in his car, the market rumbles and the price goes up. If Israel attacks the Hamasholes, the price goes up. If the Grand Sultan of Araby farts, the price goes up. Right now, the price per barrel does not reflect what we are seeing at the pump. It is hovering around $40 a barrel now, it was $10 higher a month ago, so, why is the price at the pump going UP? I can think of only one thing -GREED.

I am not an expert in this field by any means, perhaps someone here understands this mystery better than I and can explain it to all of us?

945 caligal  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:49:25am

just look at this new administration for a confirmation on this quote.

946 Claudia  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:50:25am

re: #39 zombie

Strange. It should be 42 days/42 days. Not sure why there is an offset -- perhaps something to do with the solstice falling on the night of the 21nd or something? Or maybe an astronomer can explain why the location of the sun 41 days before the solstice is the same as 43 days after.

Zombie,
Consider that the winter solstice is the longest night of the year rather than the shortest day...

947 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:50:38am

re: #944 Desert Dog

It is a complex set of factors that determine the price of gasoline in a local market. There is, of course, the cost of the oil. Then, the transportation of that oil, then the refining, etc. Most markets in the USA have a different type of fuel depending on the season, as well. So, sometimes the supply of a certain kind of fuel is low or high depending on the refineries capabilities. And, you can add in local competition (or lack thereof) that also sets the price.

I can understand all of that, as can most people. BUT, even when we get this explanation, it still boils down to the oil and gasoline companies wanting more $$$$$. If some guy spills a quart of oil while changing the oil in his car, the market rumbles and the price goes up. If Israel attacks the Hamasholes, the price goes up. If the Grand Sultan of Araby farts, the price goes up. Right now, the price per barrel does not reflect what we are seeing at the pump. It is hovering around $40 a barrel now, it was $10 higher a month ago, so, why is the price at the pump going UP? I can think of only one thing -GREED.

I am not an expert in this field by any means, perhaps someone here understands this mystery better than I and can explain it to all of us?

no use splitting hairs....it's greed

948 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:51:20am

re: #922 karmic_inquisitor

They hit 53.00 in the week of June 1, 2002. That was their 20 year high.

Wow. Will they qualify for a bailout?

My local paper, the Baltimore Sun, is so pathetic now. It's doomed. The paper of H.L. Mencken, one of the great East Coast dailies, has shrunk to one or at most two sections a day. The front page contains about four column-inches of text. The rest is pictures. The interior is stuffed with full-page, half-page and quarter-page ads, they begin right on page three. It takes about five minutes to read all the stories combined. No investigative staff left, no serious local news, big fat pictures of contributors to take up space, ditto with typefaces. They cut a deal with the Washington Post to share content. Hasn't helped any. The local alternative weekly does a better job reporting on city news. Mencken is crying in his grave.

Just. Damn. Sad.

949 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:51:38am

re: #943 yma o hyd

Aww - sorry about that.
But as long as he's getting all the care to make him better, that must be good?

{Dustyvet}

Agrees, but I'm just about out of funds for his care:(

950 abolitionist  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:52:54am

At HotAir, Obama to meet with Chavez

United States President, Barack Obama will have a face-to-face meeting with his Venezuelan counterpart Hugo Chavez in April in Port of Spain, when the two leaders will be among three dozen heads of government and state at the three day Summit of the Americas.

This information was confirmed by Summit Secretariat Communications Co-ordinator, Felipe Noguera.

Top of the agenda of the Summit will be burning energy issues in which both the United States and Venezuela have a keen interest.

Bet Hugo wants us to buy into his oil industries, so he can socialize them again.
/ Maxine Waters -speak

951 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:54:25am

re: #949 Dustyvet

Agrees, but I'm just about out of funds for his care:(

Vet bills are astronomical, everywhere. Do you have any sort of insurance for him?
Or can you get something like 'Blue Cross', which helps people with their bills if they're for example unemployed, pensioners, vets (not the animal doctors ...), that sort of thing?

952 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:55:28am
953 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:02:44am

Campaign buttons Obama didn't use.

954 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:11:53am

re: #952 buzzsawmonkey

One wonders whether this is because the papers are not doing their job, or because people simply tend not to read as much as they used to.

I cannot help but suspect that the forty-year slide in forcing schoolchildren to become literate is at least as much to blame as bias and incompetence by the papers themselves.

Oh, I totally agree. The habit of daily newspaper reading is dying out. Partly because of functional illiteracy, which is everywhere (have you read any college term papers lately?), partly because of all the other "passive" media that don't require focused attention spans, and partly because for those who want to be on top of things, the morning paper with yesterday's news is already as dead as the bacon on your breakfast plate. The valuable thing about a good newspaper, of course, is not the up-to-the-minute stuff, but the in-depth articles reflecting ongoing issues, investigative pieces, etc. But a lot of people don't get that anymore.

There used to be two editions of the Sun, morning and evening. Just remembering that shows how old I am. When James Joyce was courting Nora Barnacle in Dublin back in 1904, the municipal postal service had five deliveries a day. People wrote letters like we make phone calls. You could set the time for a tryst in the morning, get a confirmation, realize you weren't going to make it after all, send a cancellation, and receive an acknowledgment all on the same day.

And there were something like five or six competing daily newspapers then, too. Morning and evening.

If you see what's happened to writing because of the awful "texting" shorthand that's developed, it isn't far fetched to think that only the old and the eccentric will still know how to read anything over two sentences in a generation or so. We're heading back to the time when reading will be the province of the few, with most people getting their information from pictures, as in the old medieval cathedrals.

By the way, I got your last update on the other thread. Thanks for all the enlightenment. You'll be one of my resources when I hit a difficult scriptural passage in the future - if that's OK with you.

955 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:20:35am
956 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:53:24am

re: #955 buzzsawmonkey

Texting has developed of itself--which is to say, I don't see a "plot" in it--but the general spread of functional illiteracy (and the shortening of attention spans, which goes back to the advent of Sesame Street) is bidding fair to make all of Western literature quite literally a closed book to all but the most highly educated, and even there, increasingly, only to those who specialize in it.

The diminution of literacy--and the expectation of getting "information" in small dribs and drabs, predigested, on the computer instead of slogging through a multi-page article or even (gasp!) an entire book has accelerated the lack of historical knowledge as well as any grasp of metaphor or any ability to distinguish between fact, opinion, and rhetoric.

It was not always thus.

Yes.

My "texting" comment was not intended to posit a plot. It's just an indication of the general tendency to shorten, chop, abbreviate written and spoken communication to the point where what people are trying to say is more indicated than articulated.

I recently had supper at a restaurant where the table next to me was a group of maybe six seniors from Johns Hopkins University - supposedly one of the top institutions in the land. (I know they were seniors because they had a standing toast at the start of the meal.) Their talk (I really couldn't help listening, though I was trying to read) was almost entirely made up of two- or three-word interjections, all of which were quite expressive in their way ("as if", "don't go there", "he's a stoner"), but there was no talk. No politics, no literature, nothing but in jokes and sly digs. The most expansive statement was when one girl boasted about how much money she would soon be making. (They were all girls, and before someone calls me sexist, let me state that if they had been guys the level of communication would surely have been much lower.)

I recently came across this: McGill University's exam book for 1905-06. Browse through it and see if you think any undergraduate anywhere could take any of these tests today.

I was lucky: Born into a family where books were treasured, our parents read us to sleep each night. Between them and my siblings we probably own 10,000 volumes.

Even so-called specialists today aren't up to the job. If you want to read my review of one on Amazon (completed just last night), click here. It's the second of two reviews.

957 Ron Shaw  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:42:44am

Neither does reality!

958 Sheepdogess  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:06pm

re: #956 Cato the Elder

re: #956 Cato the Elder

I'd like a copy ...


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