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You’ll be riding along in an automobile. You’ll be the driver perhaps. You’re a Christian. There’ll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away - you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes… Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on … every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the drivers wheel.

— Jerry Falwell

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1 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:09:03pm

Why does Jerry Falwell hate cars?

2 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:11:45pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

Why does Jerry Falwell hate cars?

No, no, he doesn't hate cars, he hates that al of those sinners are going to be caught in car wrecks...

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3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:11:58pm

I want to die just like grandpa, in my sleep. Not screaming and freaking out like the passengers in his car.

[paraphrased from somebody. Steven Wright?]

4 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:12:12pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

Why does Jerry Falwell hate cars?

Cars are not in the bible.

5 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:12:28pm

You’ll be riding along in an automobile.

Youtube Video
6 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:12:39pm

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

A man walks into a restaurant with a full-grown ostrich behind him. The waitress asks them for their orders.

The man says, "A hamburger, fries and a coke," and turns to the ostrich, "what's yours?"

"I'll have the same," says the ostrich.

A short time later the waitress returns with the order "That will be $9.40, please," and the man reaches into his pocket and pulls out the exact change for payment.

The next day, the man and the ostrich come again and the man says, "A hamburger, fries and a coke."

The ostrich says, "I'll have the same."

Again the man reaches into his pocket and pays with exact change.

This becomes routine until the two enter again. "The usual?" asks the waitress.

"No, this is Friday night, so I will have a steak, baked potato and a salad," says the man.

"Same," says the ostrich.

Shortly the waitress brings the order and says, "That will be $32.62."

Once again the man pulls the exact change out of his pocket and places it on the table.

The waitress cannot hold back her curiosity any longer. "Excuse me, sir. How do you manage to always come up with the exact change in your pocket every time?"

"Well," says the man, "several years ago, I was cleaning the attic and found an old lamp. When I rubbed it, a Genie appeared and offered me two wishes. My first wish was that if I ever had to pay for anything, I would just put my hand in my pocket and the right amount of money would always be there."

"That's brilliant!" says the waitress. "Most people would ask for a million dollars or something, but you'll always be as rich as you want for as long as you live!"

"That's right. Whether it's a gallon of milk or a Rolls Royce, the exact money is always there," says the man.

The waitress asks, "What's with the ostrich?"

The man sighs, pauses and answers, "My second wish was for a tall chick with a big butt and long legs who agrees with everything I say."

7 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:13:58pm

Chance holds no religious bias.

8 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:14:04pm

Well they say the road's a dangerous place
If you flip me off I'm the danger you'll face
You drive on my ass
Your foot's on the gas
And your next breath is your last
/offspring

9 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:15:11pm

For some reason I can't see this scenario ever happening.

10 kimmie7  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:15:43pm

Moderator, please close my account. Thank you.

11 silvergirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:15:59pm

re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth

I want to die just like grandpa, in my sleep. Not screaming and freaking out like the passengers in his car.

[paraphrased from somebody. Steven Wright?]

Who did say that? I was thinking Jack Handy, but maybe not.

12 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:16:07pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

He's clearly singling out cars for these crashes- no mention of trucks or buses or other vehicles. He hates cars!

13 Emperor Norton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:16:09pm

Clothes can inherit eternal life, if they've got the L.L. Bean lifetime guarantee.

14 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:16:26pm

re: #9 BlueCanuck

For some reason I can't see this scenario ever happening.

I don't think so either. In the 4000 year old history of the universe, no one has ever just vanished from an automobile.

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15 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:16:52pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Moderator, please close my account. Thank you.

Er, why don't you act like an adult and leave?

16 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:16:55pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Nice second post. Don't want to use your account? Then don't log in.

17 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:17:02pm

Give me a break.
Or, if I'm in the car, a brake.

What a loon.

18 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:17:20pm

re: #13 Emperor Norton

Clothes can inherit eternal life, if they've got the L.L. Bean lifetime guarantee.

That's just like Craftsman tools.

19 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:17:45pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Moderator, please close my account. Thank you.

To posts and you want your account closed. Why?

20 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:17:55pm

If that were actually true, it should be an offense to drive while under the influence of Christianity.

If you were caught up in the Rapture, and your driverless car went on to climb a curb and crush the life out of some poor heathen, who, through no fault of his own, had not found Jesus, would that not make you a sinner?

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:19:19pm

I think the only way to deal with this may be to take away the driver's license of anyone who's saved.

I realize this will inconvenience the hell out of them, but it sounds like the Rapture is sort of the theological equivalent of a grand mal seizure, in terms of danger to others while driving.

22 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:19:30pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Moderator, please close my account. Thank you.

If you want your account closed why are you still logged in?

23 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:19:41pm
kimmie7 2/16/2009 10:44:36 am PST

Coulter needs to explain herself.

On a side note: Doin' the happy dance -- I'm a hatchling! Whoo-hoo! Been trying to get my paw in the door for months now!

You must not have been paying much attention in those months you were waiting to get in.

24 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:20:02pm

Such is life on a neverending freeway. Just another road with no exit ... on a path that leads .. into the TWILIGHT ZONE ...

/cue music

25 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:20:13pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Here's an idea: just stop posting or reading here. Your account does not have to be "closed" for you to go away. No one's gonna use it after you leave.

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:20:27pm

More charges filed in Palin e-mail hacking case
By DUNCAN MANSFIELD
- Associated Press Writer

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — A University of Tennessee student charged with hacking into the personal e-mail account of Sarah Palin, the Alaska governor and former Republican vice presidential nominee, pleaded not guilty Monday to three more charges in the case.
Palin Hacked

In this Wednesday, Oct. 8, 2008 picture, David Kernell, 20, the son of a Democratic Tennessee state lawmaker, leaves the federal courthouse in Knoxville, Tenn. Three more federal charges have been filed against the University of Tennessee student charged with hacking into the personal e-mail account of Sarah Palin, the Alaska governor and former Republican vice presidential nominee.

A magistrate agreed to push back the trial of David Kernell, the son of a Democratic Tennessee legislator, from May to October.

Kernell allegedly gained access to Palin's account in September by correctly answering a series of personal security questions.

The added counts are fraud, unlawful electronic transmission of material outside Tennessee and attempts to conceal records to impede an FBI investigation.

Wait, what. Is the press getting tired of playing "Guess That Party"?

27 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:20:45pm

re: #25 ArchangelMichael

Here's an idea: just stop posting or reading here. Your account does not have to be "closed" for you to go away. No one's gonna use it after you leave.

But kimmie won't get a martyr cookie that way!

28 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:21:39pm

....that's why I'm wary of people with "Jesus is my copilot" stickers.

29 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:21:46pm

re: #24 Buster Bunny

Such is life on a neverending freeway. Just another road with no exit ... on a path that leads .. into the TWILIGHT ZONE ...

/cue music

Youtube Video
30 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:21:54pm
That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes... Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ... every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the drivers wheel.

Moral of the story.... don't let Christians drive cars?

31 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:21:57pm

re: #6 Erik The Red

So there is this bar on the 99th floor of the Empire State building.

There's a drunk in there getting angrier and angrier. He finally kicks out a window, shouts "I CAN"T TAKE IT ANY LONGER!" and jumps!

Wahhhhhhhh!

The people in the bar asre shocked. They're still in shock five minutes later when the guy walks back into the bar.

"What happened?" they ask.

He says,

"Well, I was so angry I couldn't ttake it anymore and I jumped... but then the most amazing thing happened... Around the 50th floor there is this amazing updraft and it carried me as gentle as you please through this open window on the 30th floor. It was so much fun I want to live again! You've got to try it!"

YOU ARE CRAZY! the people in the bar shout.

"No, I'll show you!"

And he jumps...

wahhhhhhhhh!

Five minutes later he waks into the bar....

"You've GOT to try it!" he shouts.

Two guys say ok and jump.

Wahhhhhhh! Wahhhhhhhh!

Five minutes go by.

TEN minutes go by.

FIFTEEN minutes go by.

The bartender says:

"When you are drunk, you are such an asshole Superman!"

32 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:22:09pm

re: #25 ArchangelMichael

Here's an idea: just stop posting or reading here. Your account does not have to be "closed" for you to go away. No one's gonna use it after you leave.

Kimmie is a 'blammo' account. One of those where she's been using it for sooo long (2 posts) that she just HAS to go.

33 kimmie7  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:22:52pm

re: #19 Erik The Red

Because I've been kind of a hit and miss reader. I guess I missed threads where Christians had been made fun of, but I'm a Christian and won't take part in that kind of thing. I ignored the creation debate because I get enough arguing from my pre-adolescent son...don't care to do more online.

I'm no Swaggart fan, don't mistake me for that. I just don't plan to use the account now and thought I'd free up one spot on their rolls. Just trying to be polite.

I had clicked out before getting confirmation on my posting, or I wouldn't have come back to check on it. ;-) Thanks for asking nicely, and have a great night.

34 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:22:55pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Moderator, please close my account. Thank you.

Please fuck off on your own, thank you.

35 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:23:18pm

re: #25 ArchangelMichael

Here's an idea: just stop posting or reading here. Your account does not have to be "closed" for you to go away. No one's gonna use it after you leave.

You're harshing kimmie7's martyrdom buzz.

36 clgood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:24:07pm

re: #11 silvergirl

I had long credited Steven Wright. I may have been quite wrong.

Charles: Do you have a citation for this Falwell quote? It certainly brings up quite an image.

37 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:24:14pm

I thought Falwell was dead.

38 silvergirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:24:33pm

So was Falwell trying to scare us into becoming Muslims, Buddhists, anything but Christians? It's hardly fair that the U.S. and other largely Christian countries will have mass chaos and carnage on the highways, while Iran, China, India, or other non-Christian countries are smooth sailing.

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:24:47pm

re: #10 kimmie7

:sigh: no, no. please don't go. stop.
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40 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:24:48pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

But kimmie won't get a martyr cookie that way!

You know, someone should send a martyr cookie recipe to Reine for the new cookbook.

41 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:25:14pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

....that's why I'm wary of people with "Jesus is my copilot" stickers.

The Onion is selling bumper stickers with "JESUS is my car insurance" on them.

42 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:25:41pm

re: #36 clgood


Quotes from Jerry Falwell

43 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:25:46pm

Falwell, I didn't have to get born twice.

WTF?

44 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:25:49pm

re: #12 Sharmuta

He's clearly singling out cars for these crashes- no mention of trucks or buses or other vehicles. He hates cars!


I stand corrected... Perhaps, Christians don't drive trucks?

45 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:25:58pm

Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ...

for some strange reason this sounds like a description of the Obama White House; think Jerry was speaking metaphorically?

46 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:26:10pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Quotes from Jerry Falwell

Isn't he like the Pope?

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47 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:26:11pm

re: #33 kimmie7

Because I've been kind of a hit and miss reader. I guess I missed threads where Christians had been made fun of, but I'm a Christian and won't take part in that kind of thing.

Christians are not "made fun of" here. If they were, simply for being Christians, I wouldn't be here either. (I'm not Christian, but I wont put up with that horseshit.)

If by "made fun of" you mean rightly criticized when they try to force irrational biblical literalism based pseudo-science into public school science classrooms, then you probably really do not belong here.

48 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:26:23pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Addendum.....
...and god be with you.

49 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:26:35pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

....that's why I'm wary of people with "Jesus is my copilot" stickers.

Actually, no, think about it. If these people vanish in the Rapture, Jesus will take the wheel and guide the car to safety. They're a good bet.

Favorite bumper sticker ever, though, "Warning: In The Event of the Rapture, This Vehicle Will Be Unmanned."

50 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:26:47pm

Damn autos! They're just a fad!

Youtube Video
51 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:26:59pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Addendum.....
...and god be with you.

Which one? Or any one?

52 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:27:02pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, someone should send a martyr cookie recipe to Reine for the new cookbook.

Martyr cookies are magical and taste different for everyone.

53 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:27:07pm

re: #46 Gus 802

Nah, the Pope has more money and dresses funnier.

54 NY Nana  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:27:35pm

re: #30 ArchangelMichael

Moral of the story.... don't let Christians Bostonians drive cars?

Fixed it for you!

Got to go to sleep!

G'nite, all. Sweet dreams!

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:28:02pm

re: #11 silvergirl

Who did say that? I was thinking Jack Handy, but maybe not.

Could be. I can't remember where I heard it. Does sound more like Handy than Wright, though.

56 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:28:10pm

re: #54 NY Nana

G'night NY Nana

57 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:28:46pm

re: #33 kimmie7

Dope can be bad for you. Just dont inhale.

58 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:29:03pm

kimmie7 2/16/2009 10:44:36 am PST

Coulter needs to explain herself.

On a side note: Doin' the happy dance -- I'm a hatchling! Whoo-hoo! Been trying to get my paw in the door for months now!

Is that anything like The Snoopy Dance?
The Snoopy Dance:

Youtube Video
59 silvergirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:29:04pm

re: #36 clgood

I had long credited Steven Wright. I may have been quite wrong.

Charles: Do you have a citation for this Falwell quote? It certainly brings up quite an image.

Jim Harkins? Now Emo Phillips sounds about right.

60 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:29:05pm

re: #54 NY Nana

Hi and bye, {Nana}.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:29:17pm

re: #45 Mr Spiffy

Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ...

for some strange reason this sounds like a description of the Obama White House; think Jerry was speaking metaphorically?

Well, he himself was a Genesis literalist, I don't know how he would have felt about people interpreting his words metaphorically.

62 Emperor Norton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:29:26pm

Sure, there were cars in the Bible. In Genesis 3:23-24, God drove Adam and Eve out of Eden, and I believe it was a Buick.

63 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:29:35pm

re: #54 NY Nana

Moral of the story.... don't let Christians Bostonians drive cars?

Fixed it for you!

In the event of rapture, this car will be scrod.

64 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:30:55pm

re: #62 Emperor Norton

Sure, there were cars in the Bible. In Genesis 3:23-24, God drove Adam and Eve out of Eden, and I believe it was a Buick.

The Buick stops here?

65 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:31:01pm

re: #62 Emperor Norton

Sure, there were cars in the Bible. In Genesis 3:23-24, God drove Adam and Eve out of Eden, and I believe it was a Buick.

White Buick? I think Adam is still driving that thing around Leisure Village going 20 mph.

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66 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:31:09pm

gmsc's money tips #20:

With the current financial crisis happening, anything else you do with your money is going to be affected by it. The more you understand it, the better.

The best way to start is to forget names of the parties involved, and understand the process as a whole. Jonathan Jarvis has put together a well-received video that describes the process that happened, called The Crisis of Credit Visualized, which is just over 11 minutes long. It's also available in YouTube, broken up into Part 1 and Part 2.

Once you've got your head around the process itself, it's time to learn about the particular parties involved in the building of the financial crisis. Not surprisingly, with the government involved, these details get political very quickly. The blame gets placed on Republicans or on Democrats, and quickly escalates to capitalism vs. socialism. Take a look at the approach used by FOX News' Saving Our Economy: What'$ Next? versus that of NPR's Bad Bank episode of This American Life.

The best approach, however, is to delve into the principles behind the personalities and the politics. John Allison, the chairman of the board of BB&T Corporation and the longest-tenured CEO of any top-25 financial services company, gives an interesting 90-minute talk delving into the principles that started this mess longer ago than you may think. The talk's slides are available as a PDF, which helps make this talk much easier to digest.

67 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:31:09pm

re: #33 kimmie7

Because I've been kind of a hit and miss reader. I guess I missed threads where Christians had been made fun of,

68 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:31:26pm

So it's eternal bliss for the true born again believers, auto-pile-up carnage for the rest of us. Once again we see that Jerry Falwell's conception of God is basically a divine terrorist.

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:31:55pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

But kimmie won't get a martyr cookie that way!

We're fresh outta martyr cookies anyway. Can I give it this stale saltine instead? I found it under my fridge. Funny thing is, I never buy saltines.

70 Earick  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:32:06pm

You can damn well bet I'm not letting Christians drive my car!
And I'm not riding with them anymore either!

71 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:32:17pm

re: #58 UncleSam

Wow .. Kimmie7 got on the bus for all the wrong reasons. Just hand back the LGF coupon you got, the lizard cap, the free LGF lizard button, and the half eaten fruit cup. Not to mention the 12 month subscription to CJ magazine.

72 NY Nana  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:32:29pm

re: #56 BatGuano

G'nite, BatGuano!

I tend to go to sleep sloooowly. ;)

73 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:32:32pm

OK,
Here is my all time favorite Jewish Joke...

Back in the old days in Russia, two young rabbis, fresh out of Yeshiva (seminary) are on a train to a small town for a shidduch (arranged marriage).

The one young rabbi says to the other, I'm not ready to get married and he leaves the train at the next stop.

The train pulls into the small town and one young rabbi gets off, but, there are two potential mother in laws waiting. The two women get into an argument over whose daughter will get the young man. The argument gets heated. They take the dispute to the beloved and sage old rabbi of the town.

He strokes his long bushy beard, tugs on his bushy eyebrows and peers over his little round glasses. Finally he says:

AHA! We will do what King Solomon did! Cut him in half!

The first potential mother in law says "How can you do such a horrible thing! He's such a nice young man!"

The second potential mother in law says "GREAT IDEA, cut him in half!"


The old rabbi points at her and says:

"Now, that is the real mother in law."

74 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:33:16pm

My dad received the article in the link below by e-mail and forwarded it to me and a bunch of other people on his e-mail list:

[Link: republicbroadcasting.org...]

It just made me sigh with frustration. Angry, raging, over the top spiels like this are NOT what conservatives need. In this article, the author refers to Obama as a "foreign national" (showing he believes the nerf certifikit nonsense), calls Lincoln a "criminal," strongly implies that America is a Christian nation and needs to be "reconstituted" as such, says Bush 2 was an "ignorant and failed" President, and takes the obligatory digs at gays, among other things calling Hillary Clinton a "lesbian witch" or something like that.

Some of what he says I agree with, but most of it is just going to make moderates think, "Another crazy, foaming-at-the-mouth, mad-dog, homophobic conservative." Where oh where are the calm rational voices of the conservatives of yesteryear, the Goldwaters, the Buckleys, the Reagans? I keep reading Reagan's 1964 "A Time for Choosing" speech and his 1975 "Let Them Go Their Own Way" speech to CPAC. Unmatched classics. No angry ranting, just calm, rational, and fact-centered, yet firm, forceful and passionate defenses of conservative philosophy.

75 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:33:17pm

Anyone catch this tonight...

Study: Belligerent chimp proves animals make plans

"A canny chimpanzee who calmly collected a stash of rocks and then hurled them at zoo visitors in fits of rage has confirmed that apes can plan ahead just like humans..."

Now, if we could station him at the US/Mexico border!

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

76 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:34:12pm

Wonder if any of the auto-insurance companies provide an 'in-case-of-rapture' clause in any of their policies.

77 NY Nana  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:34:15pm

re: #63 itellu3times

In the event of rapture, this car will be scrod.

There is something really fishy about that.

78 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:34:37pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Anyone catch this tonight...

Study: Belligerent chimp proves animals make plans

"A canny chimpanzee who calmly collected a stash of rocks and then hurled them at zoo visitors in fits of rage has confirmed that apes can plan ahead just like humans..."

Now, if we could station him at the US/Mexico border!

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Is that chimp on loan from Gaza by any chance?

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79 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:36:11pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

80 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:36:15pm

I'd say the fact that apes can plan ahead proves they are SMARTER than most humans. Certainly smarter than Congressmen.

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Anyone catch this tonight...

Study: Belligerent chimp proves animals make plans

"A canny chimpanzee who calmly collected a stash of rocks and then hurled them at zoo visitors in fits of rage has confirmed that apes can plan ahead just like humans..."

Now, if we could station him at the US/Mexico border!

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

81 mardukhai  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:36:17pm

re: #63 itellu3times

A traveler visits Boston for the first time. He asks the cabbie, "You know a good place to get scrod?"

The cabbie said, "You know, that's the first time I've been asked that question in the future pluperfect..."

Rump-bump!

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:36:23pm

re: #33 kimmie7

Not making fun of Christians, just a royal asshole who happens to be a Christian. Do you see the difference?

83 Claire  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:38:49pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

It's a miracle!

84 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:39:46pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

Not making fun of Christians, just a royal asshole who happens to be a Christian. Do you see the difference?

Prince Charles?

85 srb1976  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:39:49pm

Evening folks, I'm working on my insomnia sifting through old threads and dinging up all the good stuff I missed.....everyone having a good time?

86 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:39:49pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton


Racist!

/

87 blastforth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:40:19pm

re: #10 kimmie7

Moderator, please close my account. Thank you.

To paraphrase William F. Buckley. close your own godamn account.

88 NY Nana  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:40:37pm

re: #60 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hi, {Pvt.} I can't leave yet...the thread is too funny!

89 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:41:01pm

Come the Rapture, can I have your car?

/somebody hadda say it...;~)

90 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:41:40pm

re: #88 NY Nana

Hi, {Pvt.} I can't leave yet...the thread is too funny!

I noticed, LOL.

91 SurferDoc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:42:27pm

Baby you can drive my car
You don't have to be no star
Baby...wtf?...where'd she go?

92 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:42:31pm

re: #71 Buster Bunny

Wow .. Kimmie7 got on the bus for all the wrong reasons. Just hand back the LGF coupon you got, the lizard cap, the free LGF lizard button, and the half eaten fruit cup. Not to mention the 12 month subscription to CJ magazine.

I never got any of that stuff
and where are my checks from the Zionist entity?
don't tell me you have to be Jewish
Arnold's bread lied!
/

93 mardukhai  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:42:39pm

Hey, my jokes usually get feedback. I thought #81 was priceless.

Out it goes...

94 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:42:52pm
That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes...

Uh .. thats what they said .. LAST rapture.

95 Silvergirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:42:57pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

Why does Jerry Falwell hate cars?

He hated Tinky-Wink just as much. (cartoon linked)

96 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:43:46pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Once again, Islamic science was way ahead of us:

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:

Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: “During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.”

97 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:44:21pm

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98 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:45:33pm

re: #95 Silvergirl

He hated Tinky-Wink just as much. (cartoon linked)

I am an equal opportunity Teletubby hater.

99 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:45:49pm

re: #91 SurferDoc

Baby you can drive my car
You don't have to be no star
Baby...wtf?...where'd she go?

LOL

100 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:45:50pm
Once again, Islamic science was way ahead of us:

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:

Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: “During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.”

What about the post-Islam suppressionist period of ignorance?

101 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:45:57pm

Vermiform: shaped like a worm.

102 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:46:25pm

In the bad old days in Russia, two physicists run afoul of the party and are put into prison.

The commisar comes in and says "I have bad news and I have worse news."

"OK, what's the bad news first?"

"You each get last request."

The first physicst says, "I think I finally have some insight into the Reimann Hypothesis. I would like to give a last lecture."

The commisar thinks and says he believes this will be possible.

He asks the second physicist for his last request.

He says:

"Shoot me before lecture."

103 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:46:33pm

re: #101 Salamantis

Vermiform: shaped like a worm.

Prince Charles !

104 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:46:41pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

I am an equal opportunity Teletubby hater.

Hey, is that link safe for work?

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:46:42pm

Apparently, there are companies that will sell you Rapture insurance.

106 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:47:24pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently, there are companies that will sell you Rapture insurance.

So um ... who collects?

107 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:47:27pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently, there are companies that will sell you Rapture insurance.

Can you collect in case of a fatal heart attack behind the wheel?

108 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:47:46pm

Belief in the rapture I thought was rather uncommon and bizarre even for evangelical protestants. Every Christian I know, does not believe in it. A small number of them are YECs, one I think is even a geocentrist (or at least entertains the idea), and even he does not believe in the rapture and thinks its a wacky fringe belief. I think that right there speaks volumes about this particular interpretation of scripture.

Are there really that many Christians who believe in literal interpretation of end times prophecy that also believe in pre-tribulation rapture?

109 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:47:58pm

re: #106 Buster Bunny

So um ... who collects?

Probably the church.

110 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:48:00pm

re: #104 Walter L. Newton

What link? Don't tell the IDers we have a missing link. They'll get the vapors.

111 NY Nana  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:48:06pm

re: #90 Pvt Bin Jammin

What big eyes you have!

112 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:48:13pm

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, no, think about it. If these people vanish in the Rapture, Jesus will take the wheel and guide the car to safety. They're a good bet.

Favorite bumper sticker ever, though, "Warning: In The Event of the Rapture, This Vehicle Will Be Unmanned."

"In case of Rapture, can I have your car?"

113 Silvergirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:48:22pm

re: #104 Walter L. Newton

Hey, is that link safe for work?

I don't know. It does use the word heck. :-)

114 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:48:45pm

re: #108 ArchangelMichael

Belief in the rapture I thought was rather uncommon and bizarre even for evangelical protestants. Every Christian I know, does not believe in it. A small number of them are YECs, one I think is even a geocentrist (or at least entertains the idea), and even he does not believe in the rapture and thinks its a wacky fringe belief. I think that right there speaks volumes about this particular interpretation of scripture.

Are there really that many Christians who believe in literal interpretation of end times prophecy that also believe in pre-tribulation rapture?

Check the popularity of the Left Behind book series.

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:48:55pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

I am an equal opportunity Teletubby hater.

I don't know who wrote this. It's, obviously, to the tune of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".

Mine eyes have seen the Teletubby
And his cutesy little purse.
He wears a purple outfit,
And, dear friends, what's even worse,
He doesn't scratch or spit or belch,
He doesn't even curse.
What kind of guy is he?

CHORUS

Tinky Winky is a fairy.
Moral Morons must be wary.
Ignorance like theirs is scary.
And Tinky Winky's gay.

I have seen his little triangle
Where it sits upon his head,
And we all know it's a symbol
For the shame that can't be said.
Now we have to purge this danger
Or our little boys will wed
A wife whose name is Ed.

CHORUS

His defenders say his purse is nothing
But a magic little bag.
That's a cover-up, as we all know,
He's just a little fag!
We cannot let a Teletubby
Appear in purple drag,
Moron Morality.

CHORUS

Yes, they call him Tinky Winky.
Does that name sound straight to you?
If he weren't homosexual,
His clothing would be blue!
He's subversive and perverted,
And his pal's a Laa-Laa, too.
Moron Morality.

CHORUS

We have seen this Tinky Winky
Near the San Francisco bay.
He's the Marshall of the big parade
They hold on Gay Pride Day.
We'll all join hands and hold a protest
As we march the Moron way.
Moron Morality.

CHORUS

He's teaching all our 2 year-olds that gayness is no curse.
He is tearing down the fabric of our moral universe.
If left unchecked, our kids may grow up unperverse.
Moron Morality.

CHORUS

Jerry Falwell is our hero,
He's the one to lead the fight.
He has seen the truth and spoken out,
He'll lead us further right,
Where we will join the multitude
Who just ain't none too bright.
Moron Morality.

CHORUS

In a quiet Southern village Jerry was born into a haze,
With an anger in his bosom that would last him all his days.
As he works to teach us hatred, let us go and bash some gays.
Moron Morality.

(final)CHORUS

116 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:49:01pm

re: #71 Buster Bunny

Wow .. Kimmie7 got on the bus for all the wrong reasons. Just hand back the LGF coupon you got, the lizard cap, the free LGF lizard button, and the half eaten fruit cup. Not to mention the 12 month subscription to CJ magazine.

and the check! ya gotta get the check!

117 srb1976  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:49:33pm

re: #108 ArchangelMichael

Belief in the rapture I thought was rather uncommon and bizarre even for evangelical protestants. Every Christian I know, does not believe in it. A small number of them are YECs, one I think is even a geocentrist (or at least entertains the idea), and even he does not believe in the rapture and thinks its a wacky fringe belief. I think that right there speaks volumes about this particular interpretation of scripture.

Are there really that many Christians who believe in literal interpretation of end times prophecy that also believe in pre-tribulation rapture?

You should visit Alabama....we have plenty...hell...my grandma is one of them

118 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:49:35pm

re: #114 Salamantis

Check the popularity of the Left Behind book series.

Scary shit.

119 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:49:43pm

re: #109 Pvt Bin Jammin

Well .. if the Rapture happens .. all the good guys go up to heaven the non-believers just disappear .. so .. who is left to payout?

Church scam !

120 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:49:58pm

When I see cars with the bumper sticker that says "In case of rapture, car will be unmanned" I have to wonder just how seriously these folks take their beliefs. Shouldn't they give up driving, or ANYTHING that could put others in danger when they suddenly disappear? I guess they rationalize it by thinking death will be a mercy for the non-raptured and that everyone else is going to suffer and die in horrible ways anyway.

I don't know about the "disappearing" thing either. The Bible says the believers will be "caught up in the air." That suggests they'd be more like sucked out of the car window, as if by a tornado or a UFO. Would they lose their clothes in those circumstances?

121 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:50:08pm

re: #111 NY Nana

What big eyes you have!

All the better to see you with, my dear. Mwaah ha ha.

122 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:50:43pm
123 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:51:10pm

re: #119 Buster Bunny

Well .. if the Rapture happens .. all the good guys go up to heaven the non-believers just disappear .. so .. who is left to payout?

Church scam !

You've got that right.

124 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:52:35pm

re: #106 Buster Bunny

So um ... who collects?

Well, you can get coverage for car damage, etc. People also get it so that unsaved spouses or children will have something to live on, and there are places that will make arrangements for your pets to be taken care of.

There is also, apparently, a website that will, for $40 a year, keep you on a list that, post-Rapture, will send out an e-mail with a final message for you.

125 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:52:39pm

re: #120 Tigger2005

When I see cars with the bumper sticker that says "In case of rapture, car will be unmanned" I have to wonder just how seriously these folks take their beliefs. Shouldn't they give up driving, or ANYTHING that could put others in danger when they suddenly disappear? I guess they rationalize it by thinking death will be a mercy for the non-raptured and that everyone else is going to suffer and die in horrible ways anyway.

I don't know about the "disappearing" thing either. The Bible says the believers will be "caught up in the air." That suggests they'd be more like sucked out of the car window, as if by a tornado or a UFO. Would they lose their clothes in those circumstances?

I guess Oz must be Heaven, because when Dorothy got caught up into the air, that's where SHE ended up.

126 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:52:40pm

OK, I admit it... me and Tinky.... well it was college, you know?

127 Cognito  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:53:09pm

re: #108 ArchangelMichael

Belief in the rapture I thought was rather uncommon and bizarre even for evangelical protestants. Every Christian I know, does not believe in it. A small number of them are YECs, one I think is even a geocentrist (or at least entertains the idea), and even he does not believe in the rapture and thinks its a wacky fringe belief. I think that right there speaks volumes about this particular interpretation of scripture.

Are there really that many Christians who believe in literal interpretation of end times prophecy that also believe in pre-tribulation rapture?

Yes. I believe the end of the Bible in much the same way I believe the beginning. It's not really about method, which is the thing we tend to get so hung up on.

128 quickredfox  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:53:17pm

re: #84 Buster Bunny

Prince Charles?

Heard of rumors that he has a hankering to be a muslim these days.

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:53:37pm

re: #114 Salamantis

Check the popularity of the Left Behind book series.

My ex-boss liked those. He would come by my desk to ask for help pronouncing the Israeli character's names.

130 Silvergirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:53:40pm

re: #125 Salamantis

I guess Oz must be Heaven, because when Dorothy got caught up into the air, that's where SHE ended up.

Yeah, and didn't her house land on Jerry Falwell?

131 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:53:56pm

re: #126 LudwigVanQuixote

OK, I admit it... me and Tinky.... well it was college, you know?

I'll bet Barney turned purple with apoplectic jealous rage...;~)

132 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:54:11pm

re: #89 Salamantis

GMTA!

133 NY Nana  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:54:29pm

re: #121 Pvt Bin Jammin

All the better to see you with, my dear. Mwaah ha ha.

LOLOL! Merry Wednesday to all, and to all, a good nite!

I really, really, really mean it, honest!

134 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:54:44pm

re: #125 Salamantis

I guess Oz must be Heaven, because when Dorothy got caught up into the air, that's where SHE ended up.

But, there are surely no wicked witches in heaven ...

135 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:55:03pm

re: #127 Cognito

Yes. I believe the end of the Bible in much the same way I believe the beginning. It's not really about method, which is the thing we tend to get so hung up on.

Revelations is about Rome.

136 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:55:09pm

re: #126 LudwigVanQuixote

OK, I admit it... me and Tinky.... well it was college, you know?

I understand. It was love at fight sight .. you saw the handbag .. Tinky went AH OH .. you looked into his big eyes under a sun that had a smiling baby in it and it was .. LETS GO PLAY !

/ahhh ... childhood romance.

137 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:55:22pm

re: #134 Tigger2005

But, there are surely no wicked witches in heaven ...

Not any more. The last one was drowned in a Dorothean Flood.

138 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:55:26pm

re: #131 Salamantis

I'll bet Barney turned purple with apoplectic jealous rage...;~)


Actually Barney and I parted ways after he went to that fellowship meeting, announced that he was less than 6000 years old and that he "was cured" of that lifestyle.

139 Syrah  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:56:03pm

Sorry Jerry,

No body gets out of this alive.

There is no skipping out on the Tribulation.

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:56:09pm

re: #119 Buster Bunny

BIG RAPTURE IS RIPPING US OFF!

/wait, that's a different Rapture...

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:57:04pm

re: #135 Sharmuta

Revelations is about Rome.

That's so BORRRRRING!

142 wiffersnapper  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:57:11pm

Actually I thought the quote was an interesting read. Then again I wouldn't expect anything less at LGF (interesting reads that is)!

143 srb1976  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:57:18pm

re: #136 Buster Bunny

I understand. It was love at fight sight .. you saw the handbag .. Tinky went AH OH .. you looked into his big eyes under a sun that had a smiling baby in it and it was .. LETS GO PLAY !

/ahhh ... childhood romance.

Was anyone else entirely creeped out by the baby in the sun..... the boy never got to watch that show because it creeped me out.

144 Cognito  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:57:49pm

re: #135 Sharmuta

Revelations is about Rome.

I've read that.

145 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:58:32pm

re: #133 NY Nana

Later, Nana. Sweet dreams.

I am about out of here too. This "fallback" is not healthy for me. LOL

146 zombie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:58:33pm

I've been around the block a few times, and waded through the crazy end of the swamp more times than I care to remember, but never before have I encountered the conspiracy (if that's what you can call it) outlined in the latest comment on a video I uploaded to YouTube a year ago. Are you ready for it? :

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:58:42pm

re: #143 srb1976

Was anyone else entirely creeped out by the baby in the sun..... the boy never got to watch that show because it creeped me out.

I couldn't make heads or tails of it, but I think it was designed to be appreciated by people who are wired slightly differently than the adult human.

148 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:59:42pm

re: #143 srb1976

Was anyone else entirely creeped out by the baby in the sun..... the boy never got to watch that show because it creeped me out.

I dont like shows that play with your head. And anyone who watches that show will go out looking for the baby in the sun. Its good to present little kids with something that resembles reality. Sesame Street aint too bad at that.

149 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, March 10th:

Youtube Video
150 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:11am

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

That's so BORRRRRING!

Remember the Beast with seven heads and ten horns? The seven heads were the seven hills of Rome, and the ten horns were the ten legions of the Praetorian Guard. Revelation was a revolutionary pamphlet written by Zealots in religious code-speak, so the Romans couldn't get the message.

151 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:37am

A little late at night to go fishing, isn't it? But what better bait to do it with.

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:48am

re: #146 zombie

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

I say we up the dosage 5 ml. and wait a few days.

153 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:55am

re: #146 zombie

Somehow, somewhere, there are better drugs than you and I can even imagine?

154 Silvergirl  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:57am

re: #146 zombie

I've been around the block a few times, and waded through the crazy end of the swamp more times than I care to remember, but never before have I encountered the conspiracy (if that's what you can call it) outlined in the latest comment on a video I uploaded to YouTube a year ago. Are you ready for it? :

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

Uh, I think somebody else may have been watching YouTube and making comments STONED.

155 srb1976  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:00:58am

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

I couldn't make heads or tails of it, but I think it was designed to be appreciated by people who are wired slightly differently than the adult human.

I'll grant that it was directed towards tiny people....I just found it way too creepy.... probably just me

156 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:01:15am

re: #134 Tigger2005

But, there are surely no wicked witches in heaven ...

don't know about that, but there are No Trains to Heaven.

157 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:01:36am

re: #146 zombie

I've been around the block a few times, and waded through the crazy end of the swamp more times than I care to remember, but never before have I encountered the conspiracy (if that's what you can call it) outlined in the latest comment on a video I uploaded to YouTube a year ago. Are you ready for it? :

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?


Uhhhh, the best interpretation I can give is that mixing LSD and Crack is a bad idea?

158 Tigger2005  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:01:40am

re: #135 Sharmuta

Revelations is about Rome.

One thing I do believe is that the folks who wrote the Bible had a very good grasp of human nature. They saw that certain patterns seemed to play out over and over again, because people either didn't learn the lessons of history, or forgot them.

159 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:02:00am

re: #144 Cognito

I've read that.

Congratulations.

160 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:02:10am

re: #146 zombie

I think the very last bit explains it "360.YAHOO".

A spinning idiot.

161 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:02:14am

re: #146 zombie

Zombie .. dont even go there. Some of the theories that come out of illiterate Muslamia .. tend to be just so off-the-cuff stupid that any person with common sense and AN OUNCE of history would know what sort of crap it was.

And they keep on spouting it .. getting angrier amongst themselves. Such anger and frustration without HAVING to face reality is only going to end badly.

162 hazzyday  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:02:55am

re: #33 kimmie7

Are you really a Christian?

163 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:04:00am

re: #146 zombie

I've been around the block a few times, and waded through the crazy end of the swamp more times than I care to remember, but never before have I encountered the conspiracy (if that's what you can call it) outlined in the latest comment on a video I uploaded to YouTube a year ago. Are you ready for it? :

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

their meds are dosed all wrong and the full moon is coming?

164 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:04:42am

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

I say we up the dosage 50 ml. and wait a few days.

FTFY!

165 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:04:47am

re: #159 Sharmuta

Congratulations.

Is this the way you carry on all conversations?

You: "XYZ."

Someone Else: "Hmm, yes, I've read that."

You: "Congratulations."

What?

166 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:05:06am

re: #146 zombie

Now the bad news - he's subscribed to your channel.

167 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:05:30am

re: #114 Salamantis

65 million... ok that is scary. That being said, I know a few Catholics who read and liked The Da Vinci Code, but of course did not believe any of it to be anything more than fiction (despite Dan Brown's attempts to imply it was based on factual background information).

Also there are 16 books in the Left Behind series and the 65 million sales is total for all the books. That's an average of 4 million per book.

I guess I'm hoping its possible a lot of those 4 million sales were to teenage girls in the heartland who saw Kirk Cameron in the movies and just had to get the books too.

168 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:05:41am

I'm out, lizards. Have a good one!

169 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:06:16am

Its an info war Zombie. I've had people posting to various sites I run who pretend to be jewish and yet when you trace the IP ... yup .. its Islamist middle eastern. So .. just because you find a little trash lying around on your sites and stuff .. do the right thing .. pick it up .. and throw it out.

170 Tigger2005  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:07:46am

What! Those papers left in the Bibliotheque Nationale (or wherever it was) weren't factual? Someone needs to tell the authors of Holy Blood Holy Grail that just because it's written doesn't make it so!

re: #167 ArchangelMichael

65 million... ok that is scary. That being said, I know a few Catholics who read and liked The Da Vinci Code, but of course did not believe any of it to be anything more than fiction (despite Dan Brown's attempts to imply it was based on factual background information).

Also there are 16 books in the Left Behind series and the 65 million sales is total for all the books. That's an average of 4 million per book.

I guess I'm hoping its possible a lot of those 4 million sales were to teenage girls in the heartland who saw Kirk Cameron in the movies and just had to get the books too.

171 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:08:02am

Just vaguely off topic, but does anyone here remember the Church of Subgenius, and more importantly Ivan Stang's book High Weirdness by Mail?

Zombie's post made me think of it. Stang had this hobby of contacting the most loony fringie weirdo groups and asking them for their literature. He got a true treasure trove of insanity. High Weirdness was organized by chapter depending on the sort of crazy involved.

Anyway, I ramble, but the point is that crazy is as crazy does. There really is no limit to the delusions that people come up with and spout sometimes.

172 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:08:05am

re: #146 zombie

I've been around the block a few times, and waded through the crazy end of the swamp more times than I care to remember, but never before have I encountered the conspiracy (if that's what you can call it) outlined in the latest comment on a video I uploaded to YouTube a year ago. Are you ready for it? :

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

Bad trip. Very.

173 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:08:11am

re: #163 redc1c4

their meds are dosed all wrong and the full moon is coming?

He should've taken the RED pill. Instead, he's still trapped in the matrix of his own fevered mind.

174 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:08:43am

Just for contrast, here's the last comment one of my videos got on youtube:

Haaaaaahhahahhhhaaaaaa!
At 3:44 you can see his eyes spilling out of the head *lol*

I get a better class of youtube commenter.

175 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:08:52am

re: #169 Buster Bunny

Its an info war Zombie. I've had people posting to various sites I run who pretend to be jewish and yet when you trace the IP ... yup .. its Islamist middle eastern. So .. just because you find a little trash lying around on your sites and stuff .. do the right thing .. pick it up .. and throw it out.

can we throw it in the burn pit with the out dated classified items and the mortar increments?

176 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:10:40am

re: #175 redc1c4

can we throw it in the burn pit with the out dated classified items and the mortar increments?

If it makes you feel better, Islamic Jihad was arrested in Gaza for tossing rockets at Israel. Apparently Hamas is trying to show that it runs the joint and that tossing rockets at Israel without a permission slip is bad business.

/Wadddya know?

177 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:10:41am

re: #170 Tigger2005

What! Those papers left in the Bibliotheque Nationale (or wherever it was) weren't factual? Someone needs to tell the authors of Holy Blood Holy Grail that just because it's written doesn't make it so!

I've always wondered whether the people who took Dan Brown's books seriously also walk around relaying Andrew Dice Clay's true tales about a young man from Nantucket.

178 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:10:48am

re: #146 zombie

Red bellied is a reference to communists. And Gomers is the old name for the NVA, Vietcong, etc.

Interpretation? It's YouTube.

179 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:10:51am

all caught up: gonna go scan for rats.

180 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:11:01am

g'night lizards!

181 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:11:37am

re: #167 ArchangelMichael

Penn & Teller get into that subject a little in their Bullshit: End of the World episode.

182 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:12:00am

re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote

Just vaguely off topic, but does anyone here remember the Church of Subgenius, and more importantly Ivan Stang's book High Weirdness by Mail?

Zombie's post made me think of it. Stang had this hobby of contacting the most loony fringie weirdo groups and asking them for their literature. He got a true treasure trove of insanity. High Weirdness was organized by chapter depending on the sort of crazy involved.

Anyway, I ramble, but the point is that crazy is as crazy does. There really is no limit to the delusions that people come up with and spout sometimes.

I remember them. Bob's consort was said to be Eris, from the Discordians.

Here's their 'holy' scripture:

[Link: www.principiadiscordia.com...]

183 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:12:20am

re: #177 Cognito

I've always wondered whether the people who took Dan Brown's books seriously also walk around relaying Andrew Dice Clay's true tales about a young man from Nantucket.

the set likely includes all those who take you seriously too.

184 pink freud  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:12:55am

re: #174 Jimmah

Just for contrast, here's the last comment one of my videos got on youtube:

Haaaaaahhahahhhhaaaaaa!
At 3:44 you can see his eyes spilling out of the head *lol*

I get a better class of youtube commenter.

Do you guys remember when we really didn't know for sure how fucked up (some of) the rest of the world was?

185 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:13:12am

re: #181 Slumbering Behemoth

Penn & Teller get into that subject a little in their Bullshit: End of the World episode.

Oh, come now. Don't you think current events feel a little apocalypse-y?

I mean for goodness sake, it was snowing in Mississippi the other day.

186 Claire  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:13:37am

Watched Religulous this weekend. Had no idea there was a Jesusland (or whatever it's called) in Orlando. He also went to the Creation Museum and talked to Ken Ham. He's one fellow that gives me the major creeps. Also talked to a very entertaining Catholic priest at the Vatican, and the Vatican astronomer. It wasn't bad actually. He could have been a much bigger ass.

187 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:13:46am

re: #166 Jimmah

Now the bad news - he's subscribed to your channel.

How did you know that?

Seriously, he just did. He also invited me to be a "Friend" with his YouTube account.

I am not joking:

Hi zombietimedotcom,

YouTube user bobgnote1 has just subscribed to your videos! YouTube Subscriptions allows a user to be notified when another user adds new videos.

So from now on, when you add new public videos, bobgnote1 will be notified.

You can see who is subscribed to you by signing in to YouTube and going to the My Subscribers page.

188 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:14:40am

re: #184 pink freud

Do you guys remember when we really didn't know for sure how fucked up (some of) the rest of the world was?

That's one of the joys of the internet. We now know fist hand how clever some people are and how truly fucked up other people are.

189 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:14:46am

I know someone who believes this will happen. She also believes that "diablo" is alive and well on earth (but is invisible, of course) and has a hierarchy of demons doing 'his' bidding; that abortion and the drive for gay marriage is a sign of the end times. She's completely baffled as to why I can't see any of this and even though she knows I'm an atheist and have been for nearly 20 years, continues to ask me to get right with god. Beyond her seemingly nutty beliefs though, she's a kind person.

190 Silvergirl  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:14:56am

re: #187 zombie

Some people have all the fun.

191 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:15:05am

re: #186 Claire

Watched Religulous this weekend. Had no idea there was a Jesusland (or whatever it's called) in Orlando. He also went to the Creation Museum and talked to Ken Ham. He's one fellow that gives me the major creeps. Also talked to a very entertaining Catholic priest at the Vatican, and the Vatican astronomer. It wasn't bad actually. He could have been a much bigger ass.

Did he talk to any real heavyweight thinkers?

I disagree with a lot of what Mahr has to say, but he's always struck me as more or less intellectually honest. Even if misguided.

192 Tigger2005  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:15:16am

re: #177 Cognito

I've always wondered whether the people who took Dan Brown's books seriously also walk around relaying Andrew Dice Clay's true tales about a young man from Nantucket.

I did take Holy Blood Holy Grail seriously for a while ... I was into that whole Jesus survived the crucifixion thing at the time. Read Barbara Thiering's book too, and the other one by the authors of HBHG, the Temple and the Lodge. It's fun to think about, but in the end the authors never present any solid evidence, just link together various historical facts with reams of pure speculation.

193 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:15:25am

Classic youtube moments ....

On a Rachel Corrie Video (all of 6 seconds)

gilbecl (5 months ago) Show Hide

St. Pancake FTW ! I bet she was tasty with some maple syrup !

194 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:15:28am

re: #186 Claire

Yeah that was my take on it too. I enjoyed it.

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:15:40am

re: #185 Cognito

You're being sarcastic, right?

196 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:16:22am

re: #189 eclectic infidel

I think it's that last bit that matters, really.

197 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:16:40am

re: #187 zombie

With "Friends" like that, who needs enemies?

198 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:05am

re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote

Just vaguely off topic, but does anyone here remember the Church of Subgenius, and more importantly Ivan Stang's book High Weirdness by Mail?

Zombie's post made me think of it. Stang had this hobby of contacting the most loony fringie weirdo groups and asking them for their literature. He got a true treasure trove of insanity. High Weirdness was organized by chapter depending on the sort of crazy involved.

I know more about that book than you can possibly imagine! I used to be . . . uh. . . ummmmm . . . "involved" with Stang to a certain extent. (No, not that kind of "involved.")

199 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:13am

Conspiracy theories: Intriguing questions, fascinating answers, no proof.

200 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:17am

re: #185 Cognito

Oh, come now. Don't you think current events feel a little apocalypse-y?

I mean for goodness sake, it was snowing in Mississippi the other day.

And they were growing grapes in England in the 12th century. It snowed in San Diego in 1986, 1997, and 2002. The desert near my house was at the bottom of the ocean a few million years ago. Weather is weird, doesn't take God or Gore to make it so.

201 Simple Voice  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:25am

The various responses to this world wide happening will go something like this:
The government will say "Aliens took them away."

Bill Maher will say, "Good riddance! Let's do a line."

Al Gore will say, "The Christians didn't disappear. It us enlightened folks that have evolved to a higher plane."

Rosie O'Donnell will have another doughnut.

And at some unmanned radio station, The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys plays on a continuous loop.

202 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:42am

re: #81 mardukhai

A traveler visits Boston for the first time. He asks the cabbie, "You know a good place to get scrod?"

The cabbie said, "You know, that's the first time I've been asked that question in the future pluperfect..."

Rump-bump!

Noam Chomsky is driving cabs?

203 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:45am

re: #187 zombie

Eek - he likes you. The fan from hell.

204 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:17:54am

re: #188 SurferDoc

That's one of the joys of the internet. We now know fist hand....

Dude! What websites are you looking at? Never mind, don't tell me.
////

205 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:18:23am

Hey .. I just realised with the whole Rapture gig.

If your car is going to be running around without you and crashing .. cant a policeman come up and book you for being under the influence of Rapture?

206 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:18:55am

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude! What websites are you looking at? Never mind, don't tell me.
////

A fortuitous typo, nothing more ;)

207 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:19:12am

re: #146 zombie

[Link: www.rxlist.com...]

208 pink freud  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:19:44am

re: #185 Cognito

Oh, come now. Don't you think current events feel a little apocalypse-y?

I mean for goodness sake, it was snowing in Mississippi the other day.

My little "something bigs coming down the pike" radar cells have been humming lately.

/nothing to do with snow in Mississippi, though

209 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:20:04am

re: #206 SurferDoc

A fortuitous typo, nothing more ;)

I make many myself. Please feel free to exploit that if there is a laugh to be had.

210 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:20:17am

re: #198 zombie

I know more about that book than you can possibly imagine! I used to be . . . uh. . . ummmmm . . . "involved" with Stang to a certain extent. (No, not that kind of "involved.")

Here, click this Google search.

[Link: www.google.com...]

It's bobgnote1 that kind of fits the profile.

211 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:20:50am

One day God was looking down at Earth and saw all of the evil that was going on. He decided to send an angel down to Earth to check it out. So He called one of His best angels and sent the angel to Earth for a while. When she returned she told God, yes it is bad on Earth, 95% is bad and 5% is good.
Well, He thought for a moment and thought maybe He'd better send down a second angel to get another point of view. So God called another angel and sent him to Earth for a time too. When the angel returned he went to God and told him "Yes, the Earth is in decline. 95% is bad and 5% is good." God said this was not good.

So He decided to send e-mail to the 5% that were good. He wanted to encourage them, give them a little something to help them keep going.

Do you know what that e-mail said?

---

---

---

---

Oh, you didn't get one either, huh? Bummer.

212 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:20:55am

re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote

Just vaguely off topic, but does anyone here remember the Church of Subgenius, and more importantly Ivan Stang's book High Weirdness by Mail?

I did a little alt.slack back in the day.

213 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:20:58am

re: #200 ArchangelMichael

And they were growing grapes in England in the 12th century. It snowed in San Diego in 1986, 1997, and 2002. The desert near my house was at the bottom of the ocean a few million years ago. Weather is weird, doesn't take God or Gore to make it so.

Well, sir, how do you explain this?

Please. I'll see you in the afterlife. Should be about Friday.

214 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:22:47am

re: #146 zombie

I've been around the block a few times, and waded through the crazy end of the swamp more times than I care to remember, but never before have I encountered the conspiracy (if that's what you can call it) outlined in the latest comment on a video I uploaded to YouTube a year ago. Are you ready for it? :

"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"

Interpretations?

Here's his website ask him your self
[Link: bobgnote1.blogspot.com...]
Really weird thing is he seems to post similar rants on on blogs devoted to everything from helping people deal with cancer to football predictions

215 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:23:16am

Same age as the Youtube account (2 years off because of the date):

Author's Website: [Link: www.delphiforums.com...]

Author's Bio: I am Bob, 55, guitarist-drummer-naturist-athlete-activist, etc. If you are a bassist, flying low may cause the artists who find out to issue cartoons like Dilbert, Sponge Bob, or Dirty Harry.

216 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:23:30am

re: #213 Cognito

I can only express puzzlement which borders on alarm.

217 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:24:48am

re: #200 ArchangelMichael

And they were growing grapes in England in the 12th century. It snowed in San Diego in 1986, 1997, and 2002. The desert near my house was at the bottom of the ocean a few million years ago. Weather is weird, doesn't take God or Gore to make it so.

They're growing grapes in England today. And winning international competitions with their wine as well.

[Link: www.englishwinesgroup.co.uk...]

218 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:24:56am

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

You're being sarcastic, right?

he's not that bright....

219 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:25:07am

re: #216 ArchangelMichael

I can only express puzzlement which borders on alarm.

Me too, my friend. Me too.

It's a bathrobe turned backward, and people are hailing it as something new.

Puzzling indeed.

220 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:25:24am

re: #214 Neo Con since 9-11

Bingo!

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:25:33am

re: #213 Cognito

Well, sir, how do you explain this?

These are just cyclical patterns, nothing more. The evidence at your link is nothing more than a repeat of an older pattern.

222 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:26:28am

re: #201 Simple Voice

The various responses to this world wide happening will go something like this:
The government will say "Aliens took them away."

Bill Maher will say, "Good riddance! Let's do a line."

Al Gore will say, "The Christians didn't disappear. It us enlightened folks that have evolved to a higher plane."

Rosie O'Donnell will have another doughnut.

And at some unmanned radio station, The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys plays on a continuous loop.

i'm for the last one!

223 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:26:41am

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"

If someone chooses this belief, I will not mock them.
And if I ride with them, I want a seat by the door.

224 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:26:58am

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

You're being sarcastic, right?

Worse- he thinks he's being funny.

225 Claire  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:27:09am

re: #191 Cognito

There was a little bit of Geert Wilders, Francis Collins, and that Orthodox Jew non-zionist weirdo that went to Iran to buddy up with Ahmadoinjihad amongst others.

226 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:27:29am

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

I say again, I can only express puzzlement which borders on alarm.

227 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:28:06am

re: #209 Slumbering Behemoth

I make many myself. Please feel free to exploit that if there is a laugh to be had.

somebody on another blog thought i typo'd "Ear Leader"......

228 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:28:20am

re: #219 Cognito

Me too, my friend. Me too.

It's a bathrobe turned backward, and people are hailing it as something new.

Puzzling indeed.

People are hailing it as something new? Not on my planet. What I see is people marketing it as something new. That's what marketing is all about.

Why, right now, there's a bunch of clowns marketing Fascism as "Hope and Change."

/

229 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:28:43am

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

These are just cyclical patterns, nothing more. The evidence at your link is nothing more than a repeat of an older pattern.

That's it.

I'm gathering an armful of canned goods, ammunition, and literature and heading to the cellar. And Coca-cola.

And some Skittles.

(It's the end of the world. Don't judge me.)

230 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:28:56am

Good night, lizardudes and lizardettes.

360. Yahoo!

231 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:29:18am

I keep going to the top of the page and reading that quote from Jerry Falwell. Jerry Falwell is dead. He is no more. He has ceased to be a pastor. Why are we concerned with what he may or may not have said? He never threatened
violence against America. We have real religious enemies to deal with. I'm relatively new here and would like to understand why a dead guy warrants so much attention.

232 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:29:33am

re: #227 redc1c4

Some folks just don't have an eye for humor.

233 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:29:37am

re: #228 Alberta Oil Peon

People are hailing it as something new? Not on my planet. What I see is people marketing it as something new. That's what marketing is all about.

Why, right now, there's a bunch of clowns marketing Fascism as "Hope and Change."

/

I thought they were marketing it as the only solution to the islamization of europe.....?

234 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:30:42am

re: #230 SanFranciscoZionist

We definitely need to make use of this 360.Yahoo thing. Like "honcos" it's too good to go to waste.

235 Clemente  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:30:46am

re: #206 SurferDoc

A fortuitous typo, nothing more ;)

I suggest - unasked - that we call these "mandyisms."

Second?

236 quickredfox  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:31:06am

re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote

Just vaguely off topic, but does anyone here remember the Church of Subgenius,

Raises hand. One of the SF Chronicle columnists mentioned it on occasion, and an acquaintance of mine had the Book of the SubGenius.

237 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:31:49am

re: #229 Cognito

That's it.

I'm gathering an armful of canned goods, ammunition, and literature and heading to the cellar. And Coca-cola.

And some Skittles.

(It's the end of the world. Don't judge me.)

as long as you don't have a gun, i'm okay with all that.

238 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:32:23am

re: #237 redc1c4

as long as you don't have a gun, i'm okay with all that.

It's touching of you to worry, Redneck.

239 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:33:12am

For those of you who have not yet read it, here is The Book of the Subgenius:

Scribd Document
240 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:33:15am

The truth is, the world ended for thousands today.

No one gets out alive.

You ready?

241 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:33:18am

re: #235 Clemente

I suggest - unasked - that we call these "mandyisms."

Second?

First!

242 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:33:40am

re: #231 BatGuano

People quote dead folks all the time. There are entire volumes of books that contain nothing but quotes of dead folks. This is an overnight open thread with a quote added. What's the problem?

/plus, the guy was a jerk

243 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:34:16am

The Queen of England and the Pope are guests of honour at the Annual England vs Ireland Soccer Match.

Both are getting right into the feel of things and the Queen leans over to the Pope and says, "I bet I can make all the English People in the crowd cheer wildly with a simple hand gesture."

The Pope looks at her disbelievingly, so the Queen does her famous wave and all the English people in the crowd cheer wildly as one.

The Pope leans over and says to the Queen, "That was nothing...I bet I can make all of the Irish People in the crowd party wildy for a week with just the nod of my head."

The Queens says, "Well that is totally unbelievable - let's see."
A split second later the Pope Head butts her......

244 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:34:28am

re: #238 Cognito

It's touching of you to worry, Redneck.

who's worried, nudnik?

245 mrshankly01  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:35:14am

evening

246 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:36:04am

re: #240 IslandLibertarian

The truth is, the world ended for thousands today.

No one gets out alive.

You ready?

we were all put here to suffer and die needlessly.

247 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:36:28am

A man walking along a California beach was deep in prayer when all of a sudden he said aloud, "Lord grant me one wish". The sky clouded and a booming voice said, "Because you have tried to be faithful I will grant you one wish." The man said, "Build a bridge to Hawaii so I can drive over anytime I want to."

The Lord answered, "Your request is very materialistic. Think of the logistics of that kind of undertaking. The supports required to reach the bottom of the Pacific! The concrete and steel it would take. I can do it, but it is hard for me to justify your desire for worldly things. Take a little more time to think of another wish, a wish you think would honor and glorify me".

The man thought for a long time and finally said, "Lord, I wish that I could understand women. I want to know what they feel inside, what they are thinking when they give me the silent treatment, why they cry, what they mean when they say 'nothing', and how I can make a woman truly happy?"
After a few minutes God said, "How many lanes did you want on that bridge?"

248 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:36:39am

re: #231 BatGuano

"so much attention"?

Exactly how many time has Charles posted a Falwell quote? To my recollection, there may have been one or two before this, but scarcely a flood of them.

Maybe it has escaped you, but this blog is considered to be an anti-idiotarian entity. Idiots on the left, idiots on the right, idiots of various religious persuasions, idiots who are atheists; they are all fair game.

Nobody here is lambasting Christians per se, they are mocking idiots and/or villains who happen to be Christians, or pose as Christians.

249 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:36:48am

re: #229 Cognito

You don't want to come anywhere near my bomb shelter. It's stocked full of beer and porn. And no handi-wipes.

/ewwwww

250 mrshankly01  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:37:09am

sweet quote, maybe I will get a free car

251 Clemente  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:37:14am

re: #235 Clemente

I suggest - unasked - that we call these "mandyisms."

Second?

Never mind. They're obviously Mannerisms™

252 Silvergirl  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:37:23am

re: #229 Cognito

That's it.

I'm gathering an armful of canned goods, ammunition, and literature and heading to the cellar. And Coca-cola.

And some Skittles.

(It's the end of the world. Don't judge me.)

. . . and this thermos. That's all I need. (Steve Martin in The Jerk)

253 mrshankly01  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:37:41am

re: #250 mrshankly01

sucks being Catholic, we don't do the whole rapture thing

254 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:38:47am

re: #233 Sharmuta

I thought they were marketing it as the only solution to the islamization of europe.....?

Different set of marketers, that's all. Same product, just packaged differently.

255 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:38:56am

More on Bobgnote:

[Link: profiles.yahoo.com...]

[Link: forums.delphiforums.com...]

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

256 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:38:59am

re: #249 Slumbering Behemoth

You don't want to come anywhere near my bomb shelter. It's stocked full of beer and porn. And no handi-wipes.

/ewwwww

so you need Cognito after all.....

/white smoke

257 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:39:21am

re: #135 Sharmuta

Revelations is about Rome.

I'm almost positive that the Book of Revelation is either like you said, about Rome, or more to the point a ingenious encrypted polemic about Rome and Emperor Nero and the Flavians.... or John was munching on the local mushrooms in that cave the Romans banished him to on Patmos and he was having Psilocybin hallucinations and wrote them down.

258 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:39:24am

re: #253 mrshankly01

sucks being Catholic, we don't do the whole rapture thing

True. But you guys do have Purgatory. A sort of safety net for the afterlife.

259 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:39:35am

re: #242 Slumbering Behemoth

That's it. There's no law against criticising assholes just because they happen to be dead. Actually, it's a good thing to have the occasional reminder of just what assholes they were, as that video just did regarding Falwell.

260 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:39:51am

And the Lord spoke to Noah and said: "In six months I'm going to make it rain until the whole earth is covered with water and all the evil people are destroyed. But I want to save a few good people, and two of every kind of living thing on the planet. I am ordering you to build Me an Ark," said the Lord. And in a flash of lightning He delivered the specifications for an Ark. "OK," said Noah, trembling in fear and fumbling with the blueprints. "Six months, and it starts to rain" thundered the Lord. "You'd better have my Ark completed, or learn how to swim for a very long time."

And six months passed. The skies began to cloud up and rain began to fall. The Lord saw that Noah was sitting in his front yard, weeping. And there was no Ark. "Noah," shouted the Lord, "where is my Ark?" A lightning bolt crashed into the ground next to Noah, for emphasis. "Lord, please forgive me," begged Noah. "I did my best. But there were big problems. First I had to get a building permit for the Ark construction project, and your plans didn't meet the Code. So I had to hire an engineer to redraw the plans. Then I got into a big fight over whether or not the Ark needed a fire sprinkler system. My neighbors objected claiming I was violating zoning by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a variance from the city planning commission.

"Then I had a big problem getting enough wood for the Ark because there was a ban on cutting trees to save the Spotted Owl. Then the carpenters formed a union and went out on strike. I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor Relations Board before anyone would pick up a saw or a hammer. Now we got 16 carpenters going on the boat, and still no owls. "Then I started gathering up the animals, and got sued by an animal rights group. They objected to me taking only two of each kind. Just when I got the suit dismissed, EPA notified me that I couldn't complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact statement on your proposed Flood. Then the Army Corps of Engineers wanted a map of the proposed new flood plain. I sent them a globe. And the Inland Revenue seized all my assets claiming I'm trying to avoid paying taxes by leaving the country, and I just got a notice from the state about owing some kind of use tax. "I really don't think I can finish your Ark for at least another five years," Noah wailed. The sky began to clear. The sun began to shine. A rainbow arched across the sky. Noah looked up and smiled. "You mean you're not going to destroy the earth?" Noah asked, hopefully. "Wrong!" thundered the Lord. "But being Lord of the Universe has its advantages. I fully intend to smite the Earth, but with something far worse than a Flood. Something Man invented himself." "What's that?" asked Noah. There was a long pause, and then the Lord spoke: "Government."

261 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:40:28am

re: #256 redc1c4

Careful, there. Your fixation is showing.

262 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:40:34am

re: #242 Slumbering Behemoth

People quote dead folks all the time. There are entire volumes of books that contain nothing but quotes of dead folks. This is an overnight open thread with a quote added. What's the problem?

/plus, the guy was a jerk

No problem whatsoever. He's dead, no longer a threat and I was wondering why he has been resurrected.

263 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:40:40am

re: #256 redc1c4

LOL!

264 mrshankly01  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:41:04am

re: #258 Cognito

haha, true, no driving there, i bet. probably a good deal of walking.

265 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:43:14am

re: #127 Cognito

Yes. I believe the end of the Bible in much the same way I believe the beginning. It's not really about method, which is the thing we tend to get so hung up on.

So- what is this "same way" of which you speak?

266 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:43:48am

The Flight

We're all enwrapped in spacetime stuff
By universe contained
Entrapped in frail small bodies
By finitude constrained.
In butterflylike beauty
Our brief winged lives flit by
And we die not understanding it
Or if there's reason why.
But while we live we swanlike soar
In Icarus' blinding light
Brave moths bewitched by phoenix dreams
No gloom could ever blight.
And when the darkness closes in
And sunset ends life's day
We dare to hope we're just cocooned
To fly another way.

267 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:44:10am

re: #253 mrshankly01

sucks being Catholic, we don't do the whole rapture thing

Look at the silver lining. Like you say "Look at all these free cars!"

268 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:45:56am

re: #267 Slumbering Behemoth

Look at the silver lining. Like you say "Look at all these free cars!"

Yeah, but there'd be all those lame bumper stickers on them.........

269 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:46:07am

Towercam, showing the mountains with snow, and clouds, in the bright full moon almost directly overhead, at midnight, but "Moon Noon".

Quite a view, worth looking at if you are still awake.

270 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:46:07am

St. Peter Memorandum...

------------- MEMORANDUM -------------

From: Saint Peter
To: Everybody
Date: May 2009 A.D.
RE: Don't die yet!

In order to speed the registration process at the Pearly Gates, we've started using Microsoft Access and we're having problems. PLEASE DON'T DIE YET!

Thank you

271 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:46:59am

re: #208 pink freud

My little "something bigs coming down the pike" radar cells have been humming lately.

/nothing to do with snow in Mississippi, though

My "something bigs coming down the pike" radar has had me believing for several years now that we are going to come eerily close to a civil war with in the next decade or two if this march toward socialism is not halted post haste. Also, if it is stopped and the free-market conservative alternatives to socialism do not actually result in noticeable and measurable improvements that liberals cannot deny we might end up there anyway. I don't want it to be true, but I have a very bad feeling it will be.

272 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:49:41am

re: #259 Jimmah

That's it. There's no law against criticising assholes just because they happen to be dead. Actually, it's a good thing to have the occasional reminder of just what assholes they were, as that video just did regarding Falwell.

Precisely. And my low opinion of his detestable speech does not color my opinion of Christians. IIRC, I even offered condolences to his friends and family on the thread about his passing.

Which is a great deal more than I said on the threads about Teddy Kennedy's health problems. I kept my damn mouth shut on those.

273 Cognito  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:50:09am

re: #271 ArchangelMichael

A decade isn't very long. Here's hoping you're wrong.

274 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:50:48am

re: #262 BatGuano

But he hasn't been resurrected, just quoted for posterity.

275 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:50:54am

re: #210 Gus 802

Here, click this Google search.

[Link: www.google.com...]

It's bobgnote1 that kind of fits the profile.

The guy is definitely certifiable. I always wonder how people like that function in the adult world. One can only presume they're on SSI.

276 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:51:21am

Zombie still around?

I suggest he stay away from this guy. Ignore him.

[Link: criminalsearches.com...]

277 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:51:39am

re: #275 zombie

The guy is definitely certifiable. I always wonder how people like that function in the adult world. One can only presume they're on SSI.

Click on the criminal search I just posted.

278 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:53:02am

re: #271 ArchangelMichael

IMHO marches toward isms hardly matter one way or another if the basic morality of the country is deteriorating; it is that we have to fix.

An honest and productive population would make isms irrelevant.

279 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:53:22am

re: #262 BatGuano

No problem whatsoever. He's dead, no longer a threat and I was wondering why he has been resurrected.

all evil should be kept in mind, to prevent it from becoming new again.

JMNSHO.

280 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:54:07am

re: #279 redc1c4

all evil should be kept in mind, to prevent it from becoming new again.

Very true.

281 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:54:22am

re: #214 Neo Con since 9-11

Here's his website ask him your self
[Link: bobgnote1.blogspot.com...]
Really weird thing is he seems to post similar rants on on blogs devoted to everything from helping people deal with cancer to football predictions

Oh God no, it says he's from Berkeley!

I've probably already photographed him without even knowing it.

282 mrshankly01  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:55:19am

re: #268 IslandLibertarian

hahaha,

283 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:55:30am

re: #281 zombie

Is that Santa Clara county?

284 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:56:07am

re: #261 Cognito

Careful, there. Your fixation is showing.

you misspelled "mocking" as in "Your mocking me is showing."

HTH.
HAND.
YAAAH......

285 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:56:30am

re: #248 Alberta Oil Peon

"so much attention"?

Exactly how many time has Charles posted a Falwell quote? To my recollection, there may have been one or two before this, but scarcely a flood of them.

Maybe it has escaped you, but this blog is considered to be an anti-idiotarian entity. Idiots on the left, idiots on the right, idiots of various religious persuasions, idiots who are atheists; they are all fair game.

Nobody here is lambasting Christians per se, they are mocking idiots and/or villains who happen to be Christians, or pose as Christians.

I didn't realize that Falwell was such a sore spot here. I have no idea how much he has been quoted on this site. I don't think I said there was a "flood" of anything. Nor did I accuse this site of unfairness to anyone. I do not intend to interfere with your war on idiots.

286 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:57:22am

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

I have seen his little triangle
Where it sits upon his head,
And we all know it's a symbol
For the shame that can't be said.
Now we have to purge this danger
Or our little boys will wed
A wife whose name is Ed.

I'm sure Radical Edward is all grown up by now.

287 quickredfox  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:57:40am

re: #269 Ojoe

Towercam, showing the mountains with snow, and clouds, in the bright full moon almost directly overhead, at midnight, but "Moon Noon".

Quite a view, worth looking at if you are still awake.

Wow, two of my favorites at the same time -- fog viewed from above with a "shore" of mountains or hills; and bright, bright moonlight.

288 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:57:53am

re: #265 Sharmuta

So- what is this "same way" of which you speak?

That's okay cog- don't answer me. Though I don't think much of you, I didn't peg you as a literalist. I'd like to cling to the notion that you're not.

289 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:57:53am

re: #269 Ojoe

Towercam, showing the mountains with snow, and clouds, in the bright full moon almost directly overhead, at midnight, but "Moon Noon".

Quite a view, worth looking at if you are still awake.

the camera is looking east......

290 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:59:04am

re: #289 redc1c4

The sun might rise in a burst of glory there, in about 6 hours.

291 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:59:15am

re: #274 Slumbering Behemoth

But he hasn't been resurrected, just quoted for posterity.

" The evil that men do lives after them..."

292 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:00:16am

re: #271 ArchangelMichael

My "something bigs coming down the pike" radar has had me believing for several years now that we are going to come eerily close to a civil war with in the next decade or two if this march toward socialism is not halted post haste. Also, if it is stopped and the free-market conservative alternatives to socialism do not actually result in noticeable and measurable improvements that liberals cannot deny we might end up there anyway. I don't want it to be true, but I have a very bad feeling it will be.

it'd be a short Civil War......

293 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:02:36am

re: #290 Ojoe

The sun might rise in a burst of glory there, in about 6 hours.

'bout the time i go to bed.....

294 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:02:41am

re: #276 Gus 802

Zombie still around?

I suggest he stay away from this guy. Ignore him.

[Link: criminalsearches.com...]

It just gets worse and worse:

CRIMINAL OFFENSE 7
Offense Date:
Case Number: 1869436500028
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: M314.1
Offense Description: INDECENT EXPOSURE

CRIMINAL OFFENSE 8
Offense Date:
Case Number: 1869436500028
Offense Type: Assault
Offense Code: F243.4(A)
Offense Description: SEXUAL BATTERY

Yes, I plan to do a great deal of avoiding of this guy.

295 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:03:29am

re: #275 zombie
Zombie here's one your friend posted on a site to help people deal with mesothelioma. I especially pissed me off because it was posted on a web site to help people deal with cancer

Benazir was in a BIG HURRY, to get elected, NOW, since the US fund crisis had begun to appear, on schedule, foreshadowed by the Building 7 collapse, on 9/11/2001. Notice, 2008 will be the seventh anniversary, of the WTC-Pentagon attacks, designed to warn the US and dwindling allies, of illegal US participation, in international racketeering, to wage illegal war, and to illegally use this, to unfund the entire world.

Benazir had to hurry up and get elected because her caucus was a raucus nuisance, of CIA and western corporate origin. After her prospective election, she would be discovered at profiteering in office, again, AND SHE WOULD CERTAINLY BE ASSASSINATED IN OFFICE.

Learn or die, and AIM HIGH, TeleTubbies! Hillary, Edwards, Obama have a kid, named FOREST GUMP, but he has to go to 'bama 'cause California schools all must CLOSE, for cause, having cooked their own books, since Gov. Gray DAVIS-D-Ca. announced to Ken Lay and all, he would unilaterally tender 20-year, deregulated power deals for middlemen, Dec.2000, right through the May-June 2001 nukuler refurbishings, so your state's deals are cooked by these AND the illegal, general grid withholding the USA enabled and allowed California to incite. Got NHL? YOU ARE FAT AND GUILTY, WITH ILLEGAL CBAs, AND THE COLLEGES AND THEIR NCAA FOOTBALL PASS THESE AND ALL ILLEGAL COSTS, to abet ADA violations, for your special classes.

Look. Want an AIR GUARD ACADEMY? ok. CAL? UCLA? NO! These let the fat get into their illegal fee hikes and passed law students to an illegal market, while the hedge wars cooked, 2001-present, 2008. Look at all the NARCISSISTS, walking for President of the USA, for more than a year, certain to be two years. Benazir wanted to be a pro-pimp, thus.


[Link: forums.delphiforums.com...]

296 mrshankly01  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:03:42am

Night all

297 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:03:52am

re: #291 BatGuano

" The evil that men do lives after them..."

hence what i said in #279:
all evil should be kept in mind, to prevent it from becoming new again.

298 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:04:06am

It just dawned on me that I've only had about 10 hours of sleep since We've all 'sprung forward'...

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:04:34am

re: #285 BatGuano

I don't think I said there was a "flood" of anything. Nor did I accuse this site of unfairness to anyone.

In fairness, you did not. Falwell is a sore spot here the same way that anyone who blames America for the 9/11 terrorist attacks is a sore spot here.

300 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:04:40am

re: #283 Gus 802

Is that Santa Clara county?

No, it's in Berekley at the tree-sit thing -- but in his blog he said he obsessed over the Berkeley tree-sit, so he probably is in some of my pictures. There certainly were enough psychos milling around.

301 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:04:55am

re: #278 Ojoe

I'm not sure how much of a difference that will make if the government controls everything as it is well on its way to doing so. It's less "socialism" per se (as in the government paying for a lot of things and taxing the shit out of us to do it) that I think will drive people over the edge but more totalitarianism. The over-arching nanny statism that will eventually make every single action and decision in your life a federal issue of some degree. You need to pay a fee, a tax, wear a helmet, get a special certificate, get a license, and/or ask for permission or a waiver to do just about everything but masturbate as it is now. It's only getting worse and it is coming hand in hand with socialism, hence my blaming that particular "-ism".

Beyond the ideas that people need to be more responsible for their own actions and less dependent on others, exactly what part of "morality" needs to be fixed is not something I could identify, define, or develop a working way to do so.

302 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:07:03am

re: #294 zombie

I cross referenced it with this:

[Link: www.google.com...]

and this:

[Link: www.google.com...]

If this is correct then this is him:

California Sex Offender Registry

He could just be saying Berkeley. I'm getting a ton of hits using bobgnote and doinkaunddinka.

303 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:07:24am

OK, time to log off, double-bolt all the windows and doors, and sit nervously in my rocking chair all night long, sweatily gripping my shotgun...

304 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:07:36am

re: #301 ArchangelMichael

Re all the regulations, this evolution is interesting:

Pestilential swamp environmentally sensitive habitat area.

Be back in the morning...

305 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:07:51am

re: #303 zombie

Yeah, be careful. Later.

306 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:09:18am

re: #146 zombie


"bobgnote1
Hi, tards! The US did Hawaii in 1893, the UK did Palestine in 1882, for the secret treaty, which started WWI and WWII. But Jews are from Ethiopia, and you standing army-yellow-and-red-bellied GOMERS are too stupid to see the war is profit, for illegal UK, Saudis they appointed, and DAVE-monarchs, when Abraham had to almost cut Isaac over his ethical complaint, as to how MOSES AND HIS COHEN-ETHIOPIAN WIFE WERE STONED, as soon as Moses tossed the tablet. GET OUT, TRAITOR-CRUSADERS. 360.YAHOO"


Interpretations?

My guess is the poster is from some kind of Rastafarian (from the references to Ethiopia & Jews). His posts at other links show a marked flood of thoughts and the rambling speech patterns & klang associations of a manic-depressive. Let's hope he stops self-medicating with ganja and gets some lithium. Ignore him.

307 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:09:38am

re: #305 Gus 802

Yeah, be careful. Later.

Thanks for showing me a photo of my new friend! At least now I know who to look out for.

308 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:09:52am

re: #303 zombie

OK, time to log off, double-bolt all the windows and doors, and sit nervously in my rocking chair all night long, sweatily gripping my shotgun...

i thought you didn't *do* guns.....?

309 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:10:30am

re: #308 redc1c4

i thought you didn't *do* guns.....?

That guy is a walking, talking exception to the rule.

310 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:11:35am

re: #308 redc1c4

i thought you didn't *do* guns.....?

I don't. This is just a novelty shotgun. When I pull the trigger, a little flag unfurls out of the barrel with the word "BANG!" written on it.

311 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:12:26am

re: #299 Slumbering Behemoth

In fairness, you did not. Falwell is a sore spot here the same way that anyone who blames America for the 9/11 terrorist attacks is a sore spot here.

Thank you for filling me in. I remember Falwell from about 1979 and do not agree with many of his opinions. I did not know he was equated the 911 terrorists on this website. I apologize to anyone who may have been offended with what I posted.

312 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:12:43am

re: #303 zombie

Stay safe, Zombie.

313 zombie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:13:31am

Besides, once he gets a look at me, he'll be the one running away and screaming.

314 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:13:37am

re: #307 zombie

Yahoo Profile

Cal S Offender

No problem. Check the above links and see if they match. Hard to tell.

315 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:13:39am

re: #309 Salamantis

That guy is a walking, talking exception to the rule.

huh? my rule is always bring more guns than you need, but IIRC, Zombie has some of the usually coy Bay Area inhibitions towards such a mindset.

316 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:14:17am

re: #310 zombie

I don't. This is just a novelty shotgun. When I pull the trigger, a little flag unfurls out of the barrel with the word "BANG!" written on it.

better hope he is a Mime, or you're in for change......

317 BignJames  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:15:40am

re: #313 zombie

Face like a sieve.

318 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:15:44am

re: #314 Gus 802

If he was at Folsom, zombie probably DID photograph him. Sounds to me like this guy is a violent perverted whacko.

319 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:16:05am

re: #299 Slumbering Behemoth

In fairness, you did not. Falwell is a sore spot here the same way that anyone who blames America for the 9/11 terrorist attacks is a sore spot here.

Not to turn up the dimmer on the party here, but:

Is it accurate to say he blamed America? I thought he was blaming a part of it - a culture that was sliding into Godlessness. Am I mistaken?

And in any case, didn't he apologize?

Also, I have to take issue with the idea that this man was "evil". I can understand why people wouldn't take him seriously, but I am struggling to understand what was "evil" about him. He was just a pastor, right? Am I missing something heinous that he did, or something? I very well could have - I didn't pay him much attention when he was alive - so if he did something that would change my rather benign impression of him, please enlighten me. Someone earlier called him a "threat", I thought...and I was trying to figure out what that was about, too.

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:16:44am

re: #311 BatGuano

I did not know he was equated the 911 terrorists on this website.

No, no, no, I think you misunderstand. He is not equated with 9/11 terrorists on this website, he is criticized on this website for blaming the attacks on America.

There is a big difference there.

321 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:17:08am

re: #318 Sharmuta

If he was at Folsom, zombie probably DID photograph him. Sounds to me like this guy is a violent perverted whacko.

Yeah. Pretty strange. I'm usually pretty good with my sleuthing when I get a trail. Subject to verification of course. All of the patterns seem to fit including cross referencing associated internet aliases. Lots of strange people out there.

322 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:17:12am

re: #311 BatGuano

Thank you for filling me in. I remember Falwell from about 1979 and do not agree with many of his opinions. I did not know he was equated the 911 terrorists on this website. I apologize to anyone who may have been offended with what I posted.

You said nothing wrong, and have nothing to apologize for.

323 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:17:43am

re: #311 BatGuano

Thank you for filling me in. I remember Falwell from about 1979 and do not agree with many of his opinions. I did not know he was equated the 911 terrorists on this website. I apologize to anyone who may have been offended with what I posted.

Let me refine that to say LGF has not said that Falwell was involved in the 9/11 attacks, nor does LGF believe it.. It was just my own clumsy way of responding to the previous post.

324 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:18:45am

re: #317 BignJames

Face like a sieve.

Just put a worm on his (?) face and use him for fishing lure.

///

325 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:20:40am

re: #319 capitalist piglet

Not to turn up the dimmer on the party here, but:

Is it accurate to say he blamed America? I thought he was blaming a part of it - a culture that was sliding into Godlessness. Am I mistaken?

And in any case, didn't he apologize?

Also, I have to take issue with the idea that this man was "evil". I can understand why people wouldn't take him seriously, but I am struggling to understand what was "evil" about him. He was just a pastor, right? Am I missing something heinous that he did, or something? I very well could have - I didn't pay him much attention when he was alive - so if he did something that would change my rather benign impression of him, please enlighten me. Someone earlier called him a "threat", I thought...and I was trying to figure out what that was about, too.

"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" --on the 9/11 attacks

Jerry Falwell said this as a guest on Pat Robertson's show, just a few days after 9-11, and Pat agreed with him. They only apologized, under duress, when confronted by the righteous outrage of millions of Americans.

He founded the infamous Moral Majority. Here are some of his quotes:

[Link: politicalhumor.about.com...]

326 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:21:35am

Key investigator in the 1994 Jewish Center bombing tortured in Buenos Aires

Last Friday night in Buenos Aires, Claudio Lifschitz, former secretary to the judge in charge of the AMIA bombing investigation, was kidnapped and tortured in Buenos Aires by three hooded men who later released him.

The attorney said that his kidnappers were interested in a cassette linking Iranians to the AMIA case. “They insisted on the subject of the cassettes that link Iranians with the plot. They burned my arm with the six-digit number of the AMIA case and wrote on my back. This happened at 12 midnight or so. They told me, stay quiet, we’re not going to kill you, you’re going to live for as long as we allow you to.”

He also said that when the kidnappers found his Rosary they told him, “What are you doing with this, you’re Jewish. That’s when I felt them turn on a blow torch and burning on my back.”

A case of kidnapping and torture involving Iranian role in murdering Jews. No wonder the US media is ignoring it.

327 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:22:27am

re: #319 capitalist piglet

See the film in SB #320

328 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:22:31am

re: #319 capitalist piglet


Is it accurate to say he blamed America? I thought he was blaming a part of it - a culture that was sliding into Godlessness. Am I mistaken?

Just as radical islamists blame the attacks on our "godless culture" by placing American troops on their "holy lands"? Just as radical leftists blame the attacks on our agenda of "imperialist oppression"?

Those scum sucking fucks don't get a pass from me over that bullshit, and neither will folks like Falwell.

329 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:23:06am

re: #322 capitalist piglet

Thank you and I love you're new avatar. I love piggies. Goes back to my childhood with which will not bore you.

330 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:23:21am

re: #326 Kenneth

Good morning. Isn't it a little early for you?

331 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:26:17am

re: #330 Sharmuta

Yeah, I couldn't sleep.

More about the Argentine case here:

Buenos Aires bombing investigator kidnapped, tortured

Argentinean Jewish community leaders were demanding an immediate probe Sunday into the kidnapping and torture of one of the senior investigators in the 1994 Iranian-Hizbullah bombing of the AMIA Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires.

The investigator, Claudio Lifschitz, said masked attackers nabbed him at his home on Friday night, threw him into the trunk of a van and violently interrogated him for several hours.

The men identified themselves as members of the Argentinean intelligence service and demanded to know if Lifschitz had any case material that hadn't been presented in court regarding several Iranian suspects, he said.

Suggests collusion between Argentine security agents and Iranians

332 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:28:28am

re: #325 Salamantis

Thanks for digging that up. What I take from that quote is just what I tried to express earlier...I just think it's inaccurate to say, "Jerry Falwell blamed America for 9/11." He seemed to have some pretty specific targets.

He sounded like a lot of the self-appointed "real" conservatives I've bumped into on the Internet, frankly.

333 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:28:38am

re: #331 Kenneth

That wouldn't surprise me. It could also indicate that they are either sympathizers to the terrorists or current cell members in country.

334 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:30:41am

re: #331 Kenneth

Well- the kidnappers could have been lying....

335 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:31:19am

Photos of the victim Claudio Lifschitz.

Translation.

336 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:32:27am

re: #328 Slumbering Behemoth

Just as radical islamists blame the attacks on our "godless culture" by placing American troops on their "holy lands"? Just as radical leftists blame the attacks on our agenda of "imperialist oppression"?

Those scum sucking fucks don't get a pass from me over that bullshit, and neither will folks like Falwell.

You sound upset, and I'm not sure why you would be. I'm not defending the idea - I'm looking for accuracy is all.

I don't think you're the one who called him "evil", but when I think of "evil", I think of people like Hitler, Stalin, and Charles Manson. I'm honestly surprised to see a pastor tagged with that description, but I guess people must genuinely hate him, if he gets this kind of reaction.

337 axegrinder  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:33:33am

re: #332 capitalist piglet

Thanks for digging that up. What I take from that quote is just what I tried to express earlier...I just think it's inaccurate to say, "Jerry Falwell blamed America for 9/11." He seemed to have some pretty specific targets.

He sounded like a lot of the self-appointed "real" conservatives I've bumped into on the Internet, frankly.

Now I know where those bumper stickers that say "in case of rapture, can I have your car?" come from.

338 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:34:04am

re: #332 capitalist piglet

The examples in my #328 cite some pretty specific grievances, or targets as you say.

Should I give them the benefit of the doubt as well by saying that they were not blaming all of America, just specific targets/policies?

339 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:34:45am

re: #334 Sharmuta

Yeah, I think they would be. They wouldn't announce themselves "we're from the Secretary of Intelligence."

340 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:34:58am

re: #332 capitalist piglet

Thanks for digging that up. What I take from that quote is just what I tried to express earlier...I just think it's inaccurate to say, "Jerry Falwell blamed America for 9/11." He seemed to have some pretty specific targets.

He sounded like a lot of the self-appointed "real" conservatives I've bumped into on the Internet, frankly.

You really should look at this video:

Youtube Video

At the beginning of the video, Fallwell says:

"What we saw on Tueday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if in fact God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."

341 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:36:16am

re: #327 Neo Con since 9-11

See the film in SB #320

Thank you.

342 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:37:07am

re: #334 Sharmuta
Maybe.

However, the President of Argentian at the time of the bombing was of Carlos Menem, the son of Syrian parents. He was criticized at the time for his dubious handling of the investigations of the 1992 Israeli Embassy bombing and the 1994 bombing of the AMIA Jewish community center. The Iranians could very well have sympathizers within the Argentine intelligence services.

343 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:37:23am

re: #334 Sharmuta

I should clarify my comment. That's what he said they announced. But my point was that their claim would have to be a feeble ploy.

344 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:38:36am

re: #338 Slumbering Behemoth

The examples in my #328 cite some pretty specific grievances, or targets as you say.

Should I give them the benefit of the doubt as well by saying that they were not blaming all of America, just specific targets/policies?

I didn't mean to start an argument - I just wanted to clarify a point.

345 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:40:00am

re: #340 Salamantis

Thank you.

346 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:40:55am

re: #328 Slumbering Behemoth

Just as radical islamists blame the attacks on our "godless culture" by placing American troops on their "holy lands"? Just as radical leftists blame the attacks on our agenda of "imperialist oppression"?

Those scum sucking fucks don't get a pass from me over that bullshit, and neither will folks like Falwell.

72 virgin updings to you, oh my brother!

Pabst be upon you!

347 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:41:16am

re: #336 capitalist piglet

I am wearing my cranky pants, dammit! But yeah, I do get real irritated when folks, especially fellow Americans, want to point the finger of blame at America/Americans for the actions of terrorists. That's just how I'm wired.

I am not angry with you, and I appreciate that you are looking for accuracy, and I am trying to explain where I am coming from without being a dick about it. If I thought you were a troll, I'd be a dick.

As far as someone being "evil" goes, there are many grades of "good" or "evil". And I wouldn't necessarily call someone from the Blame America First crowd, as he did just two days after the attack, as being very "good".

348 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:41:36am

(for those who saw this earlier post today, my apology. It was on the Texas creationism thread)

Yes, logic, it's amazing how it escapes some people. From Simon R. Green's book "Hell to Pay - Tales from the Nightside - Book 7," here is a dialog between detective John Taylor and Chuck, the g-d of Creationism...

---

"Chuck, you're the g-d of creationism... so, that means you don't believe in evolution, right?"

"Yes, but..."

"Your belief started out as Creationism, but it has now become Intelligent Design, right?"

"Yes, but..."

"So your argument has evolved, thus disproving your own argument."

"Oh bugger" said Chuck, as he disappeared into a puff of logic.

"Nice one" said Sister Josephine. "I would have just shoved a holy hand-grenade up his arse and pulled the pin. Heretics"

---

OT - I recommend all the Nightside books, if you like fantasy and the supernatural mixed with a very funny noir detective character, John Taylor.

349 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:42:26am

re: #347 Slumbering Behemoth

: )

It's all good, S/B. Thanks.

350 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:45:26am

Other quotes from Jerry Falwell:

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."

"The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews."

"Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan in America."

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers ... AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."

351 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:45:46am

Btw, Osama bin Laden was born on this day in 1957 (as infidels like me reckon the years).

Happy death day, Osama. May our Predators find you with our gifts on time and may you roast in pieces.

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:46:25am

re: #346 redc1c4

I'll make a deal with you. Instead of 72 virgins and a Pabst, can I get just one freaky expert, and 72 Pabsts instead?

353 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:47:45am

re: #350 Salamantis

Yikes. I've never seen those before.

354 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:48:28am

re: #342 Kenneth

The iranians have been spreading the wealth in South America- I wouldn't be surprised to learn they have sympathizers in a couple countries there. Just not so sure if thugs would announce they're with the intelligence agency, but then, maybe they would.

355 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:48:43am

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, and yesterday was Barbie's Birthday!

/oh, what a week! ;-)

356 nightwatch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:48:45am

There is nothing safe here now,
only more "Data" to be gleaned from those foolish enough to continue posting at sites such as this. There is only "role play drama" and thumping your growing anger on keyboards and then going to sleep at night while the danger grows....thinking "WELL I SHOWED THEM," "I SHOWED T H E M ! ! !"

Fools.....

357 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:49:43am

re: #349 capitalist piglet

No hard feelings here either.

358 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:51:20am

The Idiocy of Naomi Wolf...

(from the leading international daily, the Guatamala Times)

From Lady Di to Michelle Obama


At a time of crisis, the Obamas are sending a powerful message, and Mrs. Obama, as the female archetype who has picked up Princess Di's dropped baton, is instrumental in crafting it: no matter who you are, how stressed, how broke, there is, figuratively speaking, a seat in the White House with your name on it.

Come again? Who's name is on Michelle's butt?

359 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:52:03am

re: #354 Sharmuta

That seems unlikely, but you never know the thought processes of professional thugs.

360 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:52:11am

re: #353 capitalist piglet

Yikes. I've never seen those before.

They get worse:

If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being.

I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed.

Good Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.

Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan.

361 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:52:44am

re: #356 nightwatch

I think you got my 72 Pabsts by mistake.

362 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:53:31am

re: #355 littleoldlady

{Good Morning lol} I am still getting used to seeing you an hour earlier.

363 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:54:13am

re: #360 gmsc

Thank you, also.

I wonder why a guy like that would have a problem with Billy Graham, unless he was rebuked by him at some point...and he may have been.

364 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:54:20am

re: #356 nightwatch

There is nothing safe here now,
only more "Data" to be gleaned from those foolish enough to continue posting at sites such as this. There is only "role play drama" and thumping your growing anger on keyboards and then going to sleep at night while the danger grows....thinking "WELL I SHOWED THEM," "I SHOWED T H E M ! ! !"

Fools.....

Rorshach? Is that you?

365 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:54:35am

re: #355 littleoldlady

Yeah, and yesterday was Barbie's Birthday!

/oh, what a week! ;-)

Hii, lol!

C'mon, Barbie, let's go party!

Youtube Video
366 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:55:51am

re: #362 Erik The Red

Don't confuse me, Erik! I still have clocks in this house with "old time" on them.

;-)

367 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:56:19am

re: #358 Kenneth

WAB picked up Dianna's baton? WTF is naomi talking about?!

368 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:57:18am

re: #365 gmsc

What happened to old HelmetHead?!

/Ken is BALD?!

369 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:57:30am

re: #363 capitalist piglet

Thank you, also.

I wonder why a guy like that would have a problem with Billy Graham, unless he was rebuked by him at some point...and he may have been.

Billy Graham would never have said the kinds of things that Falwell and Robertson have said.

370 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:57:33am

re: #362 Erik The Red

Next week on LOST... Sawyer has a Dharma sex change. Morning, or whatever time/day/month it is where you are.

I'm not normally up this late.

371 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:57:42am

re: #365 gmsc

Hii, lol!

C'mon, Barbie, let's go party!

[Video]

Oh, and for the antidote to the Barbie Girl I posted, use this video:

Youtube Video
372 Gus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:58:10am

re: #342 Kenneth

That could very well be. You also have to consider the recent alliances with Venezuela's Chavez and AR president Cristina Kirchner and the former president Nestor Kirchner. The current secretary of defense is a former leftist guerrilla member.

The (communist) left along with Chavez have created strong new alliances with anti-Israeli countries such as Iran, Syria, and others. It's no secret that Argentina now has a strong communist presence. Various pockets of Hizbullah tribes are also found throughout South America which could now be extending into Northern Argentina.

This of course should be seen in context with an Argentinian history that included its neutral stance during WWII (i.e. Nazi sympathizers) along with a rather ingrained acceptance of anti-semitism.

Also see Luis D'Elía who traveled to Iran and was a former cabinet member under Nestor Kirchner.

and

Jews in Argentina Wary of Nation’s Ties to Chávez

373 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:58:21am

re: #364 Salamantis

Was Nightwatch's post a reference to The Watchmen? I know nothing about the movie/comic book. Sorry, sorry, I mean graphic novel.

374 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:58:29am

re: #368 littleoldlady

What happened to old HelmetHead?!

/Ken is BALD?!

Well, Barbie is 50 - she should lower her expectations a little.
;)

375 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:59:31am

re: #366 littleoldlady

Don't confuse me, Erik! I still have clocks in this house with "old time" on them.

;-)

Hi littleoldlady. I am going to try to stay awake for fruitcup, even though I should be counting sheep, or goats, or something...

376 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:59:45am

re: #369 Salamantis

Billy Graham would never have said the kinds of things that Falwell and Robertson have said.

Clearly, that's true. I had no idea there was such bad blood there. I would imagine Falwell was on the receiving end of a piece of Billy Graham's mind at some point. I would also guess that Graham approached him privately.

377 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:00:13am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

378 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:00:40am

fruitcup!

379 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:00:48am

re: #377 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummmy! And right on time!

380 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:01:01am

re: #377 littleoldlady

Thanks, {lol}!

381 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:01:03am

re: #374 gmsc

Well, Barbie is 50 - she should lower her expectations a little.
;)

Ken already is "lowered expectations" on two feet! ;-)

382 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:01:04am

Thank you littleoldlady!

383 BignJames  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:01:25am

Fashionably late.

384 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:01:47am

re: #381 littleoldlady

Ken already is "lowered expectations" on two feet! ;-)

Maybe that's why she's seeing G.I. Joe on the side.

385 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:02:14am

re: #381 littleoldlady

Ken already is "lowered expectations" on two feet! ;-)

Ken needs a walker now...:)

386 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:02:14am

re: #377 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

I need some to take my 800mg Motrin. Thanks!

387 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:03:08am

red! :-)

BatGuano! :-)

Erik! :-)

gmsc! :-)

Sharmuta! :-) :-) :-)

BignJames! :-)

Shiplord! :-)

388 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:03:46am

re: #386 TheMatrix31

I need some to take my 800mg Motrin. Thanks!

why are you taking horsepills, if you don't mind me asking?

389 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:04:25am

re: #388 redc1c4

why are you taking horsepills, if you don't mind me asking?

My Mom gave 'em to me to help ease my back pain a bit.

390 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:04:33am

Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for the fruitcup. Should help this morning. Feeling blarghish.

391 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:04:39am

Dustyvet! :-)

Matrix! :-)
/SHARE, okay?

Slumbering! :-)

capitalist piglet! :-)

392 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:05:03am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Is that Irish?

393 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:05:12am

re: #391 littleoldlady

Dustyvet! :-)

Matrix! :-)
/SHARE, okay?

Slumbering! :-)

capitalist piglet! :-)

(Lady)

394 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:05:24am

re: #373 Slumbering Behemoth

Was Nightwatch's post a reference to The Watchmen? I know nothing about the movie/comic book. Sorry, sorry, I mean graphic novel.

I don't know whether he intended it that way, but it sure sounded like Rorschachian paranoia to me. And yes, Rorshach is a pivotal character in Watchmen.

Do yourself a favor, and catch the movie. I found it to be quite amazing. The 'comic book' is good, too - good enough to have made it onto the list of the 100 greatest novels of the 20th century. And I have read it, and in my opinion it belonged on the list (I have also read most of the other novels on the list).

395 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:06:57am

For a minute there I thought you were giving the lines towards the end of Three Days of The Condor.

396 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:07:02am

re: #376 capitalist piglet

I don't recall the exact details, or precisely what Graham said, but IIRC Graham preached something that was contrary or at odds with the doctrine Falwell preaches, which prompted Falwell to say nasty things.

397 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:07:27am

re: #391 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)
/SHARE, okay?

Probably gonna need something even stronger than 800mg Motrin to get through the next 4 years...

398 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:08:20am

re: #377 littleoldlady

Mine tastes like mashed potatoes. What's up with that?

{LoL}

399 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:08:48am

re: #397 TheMatrix31

Probably gonna need something even stronger than 800mg Motrin to get through the next 4 years...

red fruitcup!

400 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:09:04am

"nightwatch" is kind of..... different. A review of his comments would shed some light on it.

401 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:09:05am

G'night littleoldlady. G'night all.

402 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:09:31am

Here's the list:

[Link: www.time.com...]

403 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:10:00am

Yikes! the Dow is down to 6.33?!?

/Oh, oops, it's in the 6,500s. Never mind.

404 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:10:36am

There's a feather in my fruit cup...Oh never mind, it's kiwi fruit...:)

405 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:10:44am

re: #400 Sharmuta

"nightwatch" is kind of..... different. A review of his comments would shed some light on it.

is that anything like the "Nightstalker"?

406 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:10:47am

Martyr cookies are magical and taste different to each martyr. Mine tastes like Fruitcup- the special kind lol stashes just for me with chocolate drizzle.

407 axegrinder  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:11:34am

I saw the movie Watchmen and remember the GN. I don't remember all the sex and violence in the GN though. At least not gratuitous. All comics have plenty of violence. I was a bit distracted because I took my son with me to see it and didn't bother to check what the rating was. It's like an R++ really. I cringed a little with every splatter of brain matter and we were both a little embarrassed by all the sex. I mean, I like a little soft-core as much as the next guy but I don't want to watch it with my SON. yaknowwhatImean?

408 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:11:39am

re: #406 Sharmuta

Martyr cookies are magical and taste different to each martyr. Mine tastes like Fruitcup- the special kind lol stashes just for me with chocolate drizzle.

Sort of like Bernie Bott's Every Flavor Beans?

409 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:11:40am

re: #398 Slumbering Behemoth

Mine tastes like mashed potatoes. What's up with that?

{LoL}

The OTHER buffet, Slumbering!

;-)

410 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:11:47am

re: #403 gmsc

Yikes! the Dow is down to 6.33?!?

/Oh, oops, it's in the 6,500s. Never mind.

I still think we'll see Dow 2000 before we boot him from office.

411 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:12:08am

re: #392 littleoldlady

Nope, just the sound I make when I have to try and move fast. :)

412 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:12:55am

re: #394 Salamantis

I couldn't figure out if his post was parody, or if he was being trollish and calling us a bunch of idiots.

As far as The Watchmen go, I'll probably rent the DVD. I like to smoke, drink, eat my own food, and pee at will when I watch a movie. And sometimes I'll pause it and leave my chair.
/

413 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:12:58am

Good Early Tuesday morning, Lizard Nation. Thanks for the fruitcup, lol....and let's see if I have some laughs in my bag:

Here's a BO/Erckel link...

BO pride

##################################

A couple attending an art exhibition at the National Gallery
were staring at a portrait that had them completely confused.
The painting depicted three very black and totally naked men sitting on
a park bench. Two of the figures had black weenies, but the one in the
middle had a pink weenie.

The curator of the gallery realized that they were having trouble
interpreting the painting and offered his assessment..
He went on for nearly half an hour explaining how it depicted the sexual
emasculation of African-Americans in a predominately white, patriarchal
society.

"In fact," he pointed out, "some serious critics believe that the pink
weenie also reflects the cultural and sociological oppression experienced
by gay men in contemporary society."

After the curator left, a young man in a Kentucky T-shirt approached the
couple and said, "Would you like to know what the painting is really
about?"

"Now why would you claim to be more of an expert than the
curator of the gallery?" asked the couple.

"Because I'm the guy who painted it," he replied. "In fact, there are no
African-Americans depicted at all. They're just three Kentucky coal miners,
and the guy in the middle went home for lunch.

414 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:12:58am

re: #403 gmsc

Yikes! the Dow is down to 6.33?!?

/Oh, oops, it's in the 6,500s. Never mind.

And speaking of tanking...

;-)

415 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:13:23am

re: #410 Sharmuta

I still think we'll see Dow 2000 before we boot him from office.

Can't we just get Donald Trump to fire him?...:0

416 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:13:34am

re: #370 Walter L. Newton

Next week on LOST... Sawyer has a Dharma sex change. Morning, or whatever time/day/month it is where you are.

I'm not normally up this late.

LOL
Good Morning to you to.

417 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:13:40am

re: #406 Sharmuta

That's 'a cause you're speshul! :-)

418 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:14:00am

re: #377 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Thanks :)

419 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:14:06am

Pietr! :-)

420 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:14:29am

re: #408 gmsc

Sort of like Bernie Bott's Every Flavor Beans?

No- the cookie takes on the flavoring that will satiate the martyr the most quickly.

421 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:15:14am

re: #415 Dustyvet

Can't we just get Donald Trump to fire him?...:0

I second that!

422 capitalist piglet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:17:31am

re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't recall the exact details, or precisely what Graham said, but IIRC Graham preached something that was contrary or at odds with the doctrine Falwell preaches, which prompted Falwell to say nasty things.

Well, I'm learning a lot about Jerry Falwell tonight. As I initially said, I didn't pay him much attention when he was alive, and now it's apparent I knew very little about him. He just always struck me as a buffoonish, benign figure who had a clumsy way of expressing himself...but wow.

423 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:19:42am

re: #409 littleoldlady

The OTHER buffet, Slumbering!

;-)

It's cool, I'll stick with the taters. You did make 'em, right?

424 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:19:55am

Shit, a 10 point drop in index rating in 5 days?

425 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:21:42am

re: #423 Slumbering Behemoth

It's cool, I'll stick with the taters. You did make 'em, right?

I most certainly did! Not as tasty as usual, because I ran out of paprika.

/a MAJOR TRAGEDY for a Hungarian!

426 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:23:19am

re: #424 TheMatrix31

They keep talking about his "high approval" rating, and in fact his approvals are pretty constant. It's the "strongly disapproves" that are growing.

427 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:24:37am

re: #426 littleoldlady

They keep talking about his "high approval" rating, and in fact his approvals are pretty constant. It's the "strongly disapproves" that are growing.

Yep.

428 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:24:51am

The Wedding Test

I was a very happy man. My wonderful girlfriend and I had been
dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married. There
was only one little thing bothering me...It was her beautiful younger
sister.

My prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight
miniskirts, and generally was bra-less. She would regularly bend
down when she was near me, and I always got more than a nice
view. It had to be deliberate, because she never did it when she
was near anyone else.

One day her "little" sister called and asked me to come over to
check the wedding invitations. She was alone when I arrived, and
she whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that
she couldn't overcome. She told me that she wanted me just once
before I got married and committed my life to her sister.

Well, I was in total shock, and couldn't say a word.

She said, "I'm going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want one
last wild fling, just come up and get me."

I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs.
I stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight
to the front door. I opened the door, and headed straight towards
my car.

Lo and behold, my entire future family was standing outside, all
clapping!

With tears in his eyes, my father-in-law hugged me and said, "We
are very happy that you have passed our little test. We couldn't
ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family."

And the moral of this story is:

Always keep your condoms in your car.

429 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:25:15am

re: #425 littleoldlady

You mean that's not paprika? Now that I think about it, I am starting to feel a little funny.....

/Red! You magnificent bastard, you.

430 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:29:13am

re: #414 littleoldlady

And speaking of tanking...

;-)

0bama tanks? You're welcome!

431 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:31:39am

I'm so old, I remember when companies that were "too big to fail" were prosecuted under anti-trust regulations, not bailed out!

432 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:32:00am

re: #414 littleoldlady

And speaking of tanking...

9 points in 3 days? Wow!

433 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:32:13am

A little old lady is walking down the street dragging two large plastic garbage bags behind her. One of the bags rips and every once in a while a $20 bill falls out onto the sidewalk.

Noticing this, a policeman stops her and says, "Ma'am, there are $20 bills falling out of your bag."

"Oh, really? Darn!," says the little old lady. "I'd better go back and see if I can find them. Thank you for telling me."

"Well, now, not so fast," says the Police Officer. "How did you get all that money? You didn't steal it, did you?"

"Oh, good gracious, no," says the little old lady. "You see, my backyard is right next to the football stadium parking lot. On game days, a lot of fans come and pee through the fence into my flower garden. So, I stand behind the fence with my hedge clippers. Each time some guy sticks his thing through the fence, I say, '$20 or off it comes'."

"Well, that seems only fair," laughs the policeman. "OK! Good luck! By the way, what's in the other bag?"

"Well, you know," says the little old lady, "not everybody pays."

434 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:32:13am

-Whats the difference between a zombie and alive guy?

-alive guy never hears "you only love me for my brains!"

435 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:32:18am

Shoot, I'm up too late. Need to lay down, close my eyes, and pretend to sleep. That's when they get ya/

G'nite Lizards.

436 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:34:07am

re: #434 trigger girlie

TRIGGER!

437 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:35:35am

trigger? Is that really you? Long time no see.

438 ronsfi  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:36:36am
Youtube Video

Yeah!

439 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:36:47am

re: #433 Pietr

My secret is out...

440 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:37:11am

'Night, Slumbering! :-)

TRIGGER!?

441 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:37:39am

Trigger- I still hate you will all my heart.

442 gmsc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:37:52am

"Now I lay me down to sleep,
A bag of peanuts at my feet.
If I should die before I wake,
give them to my brother, Jake."
-Father Mulcahy, M*A*S*H

Good night, all!

443 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:38:26am

re: #441 Sharmuta

Trigger- I still hate you will all my heart.

What? What am I missing?

444 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:38:56am

re: #443 Walter L. Newton

What? What am I missing?

A long running inside joke between Trigg and I.

445 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:39:23am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

446 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:39:54am

re: #437 BlueCanuck

Yes! lol

I was in a food coma

447 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:40:39am

re: #441 Sharmuta

You know I hate you more! ;p

heya, lol ;)

448 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:40:40am

re: #444 Sharmuta

A long running inside joke between Trigg and I.

Well, thank goodness I'm on your good side most of the time.

449 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:40:56am

re: #442 gmsc

Good night!

450 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:41:32am

G'Night gmsc....don't let those numbers keep tumbling in your head, dream about something more pleasant.....:>))

451 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:41:46am

re: #447 trigger girlie

I was worried we'd lost you.

Not that I care, really, since I hate you so much. ;)

452 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:42:06am

re: #446 trigger girlie

Must have been one hell of a good feast to last that long. Still on the front desk night shift?

453 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:50:05am

re: #452 BlueCanuck

yeah, still the same shit. I mean, shift,lol

I was kiddin, I was actually abducted by aliens!

454 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:50:21am

re: #451 Sharmuta

;p

455 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:51:15am

re: #453 trigger girlie

yeah, still the same shit. I mean, shift,lol

LOL, yeah I feel the same about my job. Same sentiments exactly.

456 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:51:41am

re: #454 trigger girlie

Here I was going to leave right after Fruitcup but ended up sticking around, and good thing too, because I got to see you, Sweets.

457 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:58:20am

re: #456 Sharmuta

Aww :) dammit, now I feel all warm and fuzzy! ;p

good to see you too, Sharmie

/hate mode back on

458 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:59:10am

re: #455 BlueCanuck


yeah, I feel like stabbing ppl sometimes; my bosses

459 ronsfi  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:03:15am

Ahhhh!

Youtube Video
460 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:05:27am

I was driving from Des Moines to Council Bluffs the other day when a
tire blew out.

Checking my spare, I found that it too was flat. My only option was to
flag down a passing motorist and get a ride to the next town.

The first vehicle to stop was an old man in a van. He yelled out the
window, "Need a lift?"

"Yes, I sure do," I replied.

"You a Republican or Democrat," asked the old man.

"Republican," I replied.

"Well, you can just go to Hell," yelled the old man as he
sped off.

Another guy stopped, rolled down the window, and asked me the same
question.

Again, I gave the same answer, "Republican." The driver gave
me the finger and drove off. I thought it over and decided that maybe I
should change my strategy, since this area seemed to be overly
political and there appeared to be few Republicans.


The next car to stop was a red convertible driven by a beautiful
blonde. She smiled seductively and asked if I was a Republican or
Democrat.

"Democrat!" I shouted..

"Hop in!" replied the blonde.

Driving down the road, I couldn't help but stare at the gorgeous
woman in the seat next to me, the wind blowing through her hair, perfect
breasts, and a short skirt that continued to ride higher and higher up
her thighs.

Finally, I yelled, "Please stop the car."

She immediately slammed on the brakes and as soon as the car stopped, I
jumped out.

"What's the matter?" she asked.

"I can't take it anymore," I replied. "I've only
been a Democrat for five minutes and already I want to screw somebody."

461 Crux Australis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:06:42am

About Falwell's statement. No one knows for certain how things will play themselves out and one should make any dogmatic statements either way.

I may sound like I'm contradicting my first statement but what Falwell is describing won't be happening.

462 Bullskin  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:08:08am

I’m a Christian and I believe in God and Jesus message, but do not believe in church no more the good as charity organization it can do. (i.e. Today many people which just can’t afford his daily bread, not only homeless, but thousands in Spain and increasing are being fed by the church and no other organization).

I found Mr. Falwel amusing and couldn't get offended. My belief comes trough faith, and of course I understand others would have theirs. Creationism as is known today seems a vague explanation for me, and evolution present solid proofs but also have weak points. It seems that comets may have also inserted new DNA periodically in our not so closed system, the Earth.
This is the way that some pandemics like the flu one at the beginning of the XX century may have been originated, or why a plant called Cycas Revoluta appeared suddenly in the Mesozoic period and there is not any known previous family related to it.

I use to wonder how much we know. A 10% of the known Universe?. A 1% perhaps?. A 0.00000001% or a 10E-28 %. We just don’t know. And if we consider we are living in a four variable space, x, y, z and time, It also seems that the real Universe, the one we can not perceive has up to 11 variables. A vector space up to 11 variables.

Our perception give us a range of concepts we can create, know and figure. A triangle in our four variables space is a triangle, always has been and always would as long as our Universe exists, and if the Universe someday disappears, the triangle will still exist.
We, the homo sapiens have spend about 148000 years without knowing about this fancy geometrical form.
Now, given we know little about the whole, God might fit well in one of this unknown yet to know. Even in the variables we just can not perceive.

I like very much 2010. I think I can remember it says that the monolith is the compilation of a eons lasted civilization and the whole minds of its individuals and wisdom into one single and perfect thing.

As Saint Anselm of Canterbury pointed reason could well lead to a definition of God which can not be negated, not only as a concept. But as we say we don’t know if this would be possible in future, and if we could perceive it, unless, trough faith.

George.

463 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:08:49am

re: #457 trigger girlie

Well! If you're going to be all nice about it, then I will go!

[Actually- I do need to go, but it was GREAT to see you Trigg. Don't be such a stranger!]

See you Lizards later!

464 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:09:57am

Does it mean that everyone in the other life is going to be naked?

Its a good thing Michael Moore will be going to hell...

465 trigger girlie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:10:46am

re: #463 Sharmuta

I'll go back to my hateful self! ;p

Later, gator! or lizard...

466 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:11:15am

re: #463 Sharmuta

Well! If you're going to be all nice about it, then I will go!

[Actually- I do need to go, but it was GREAT to see you Trigg. Don't be such a stranger!]

See you Lizards later!

Later Sharmuta.

467 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:14:32am

Bye sharmuta. weet dreams.

468 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:14:34am

Bye, Sharmuta! :-)

Hello, George! :-)

Are you in Spain?

469 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:24:01am

re: #463 Sharmuta

G'Nights, Sharmuta......

470 Bullskin  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:25:17am

Hi Littleoldlady. I am now in the country formerly named Spain I think. But socialists are leaving it in such state much Spaniards can not recognize it longer.

:o)

471 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:25:30am

Ah, LittleOldLady ...
Greetings.
You know, I was thinking yesterday that it has been so long since I last read one of your comments thactiveat I wondered whether you were still active as an LGF commenter. So I did a search for your comments and was surprised to see that you had already done over 20 comments yesterday alone. I was pleasantly surprised - You are an LGF stalwart, after all !

PS Any cupcake left ?

472 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:26:22am

... and remind me to use SpellCheck more often .

473 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:27:28am

Toward the end of Sunday service, the Minister asked, 'How many of you have forgiven your enemies?'

80% held up their hands.

The Minister then repeated his question. All responded this time, except one small elderly lady.

'Mrs. Neely?'; 'Are you not willing to forgive your enemies?'

I don't have any.' She replied, smiling sweetly.

'Mrs. Neely, that is very unusual. How old are you?'

'Ninety-eight.' she replied.

'Oh, Mrs. Neely, would you please come down in front & tell us all how a person can live ninety-eight years & not have an enemy in the world?'

The little sweetheart of a lady tottered down the aisle, faced the congregation, and said, 'I outlived the bitches.'

474 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:28:22am

re: #471 Pass The Moonbaticide

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

Where've you been?!

20 comments? Really? I musta had an extra cuppa coffee yesterday. ;-)

Bon appetit!

/yeah, I've been practicing... ;-)

475 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:31:41am

Where've I been ? My wife now uses the Laptop so often I almost have to threaten violence ... ( Only joking, Dear ...)

PS
Did you note that your president gave our Prime Minister a useless gift ?
NTSC DVDs can't be used here in PAL Britain ...

476 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:33:30am

re: #475 Pass The Moonbaticide

A useless gift from a useless president. What more do we have to say?

477 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:33:35am

re: #475 Pass The Moonbaticide

Where've I been ? My wife now uses the Laptop so often I almost have to threaten violence ... ( Only joking, Dear ...)

PS
Did you note that your president gave our Prime Minister a useless gift ?
NTSC DVDs can't be used here in PAL Britain ...

Did YOU noitice our people gave us (and the world) a useless President !?!?!?

478 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:33:55am

I feel like a newbie again. Some Lizards on the LNDT that I have never met. Hello.

479 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:36:26am

The husband leans over and asks his wife,

'Do you remember the first time we had sex together over fifty years ago?

We went behind the village tavern where you leaned against the back fence and I made love to you.'

'Yes', she says, 'I remember it well.'

'OK,' he says, 'How about taking a stroll around there again and we can do it for old time's sake?'

'Oh Jim, you old devil, that sounds like a crazy, but good idea!'

A police officer sitting in the next booth heard their conversation and, having a chuckle to himself, he thinks to

himself, I've got to see these two old-timers having sex against a fence.

I'll just keep an eye on them so there's no trouble.

So he follows them.


The elderly couple walks haltingly along, leaning on each other for support aided by walking sticks...

Finally, they get to the back of the tavern and make their way to the fence..

The old lady lifts her skirt and the old man drops his trousers.

As she leans against the fence, the old man moves in..

Then suddenly they erupt into the most furious sex that the policeman has ever seen.

This goes on for about ten minutes while both are making loud noises and moaning and screaming.

Finally, they both collapse, panting on the ground.

The policeman is amazed.

He thinks he has learned something about life and old age that he didn't know.

After about half an hour of lying on the ground recovering, the old couple struggles to their feet and puts their clothes back on.

The policeman, is still watching and thinks to himself, this is truly amazing, I've got to ask them what their secret is.

So, as the couple passes, he says to them,

'Excuse me, but that was something else.

You must've had a fantastic sex life together.

Is there some sort of secret to this?'

Shaking, the old man is barely able to reply,

'Fifty years ago that wasn't an electric fence

480 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:36:27am

re: #475 Pass The Moonbaticide

Did I notice?! Good lord, it's hard to imagine being more embarrassed about the lack of class and decorum exhibited by our new President and his wife.

I heard she gave Brown's kids some tacky models from the White House gift shop.

481 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:36:58am

re: #476 BlueCanuck
... and Hillary was no better. She gave Russian President Medvedev a joke 'button' with what she believed was the Russian word for 'Reset' (with the implication Obama wants to Reset American-Russian relations after Bush) . It turns out the word translated as 'Overpriced' !
Where the hell are the Research Team ?

482 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:38:18am

re: #475 Pass The Moonbaticide

Where've I been ? My wife now uses the Laptop so often I almost have to threaten violence ... ( Only joking, Dear ...)

PS
Did you note that your president gave our Prime Minister a useless gift ?
NTSC DVDs can't be used here in PAL Britain ...

An NTSC DVD can be viewed on a PAL machine!

(as long as you don't mind the video rolling from bottom to top and the color totally washed out !)

483 MJBrutus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:39:23am

So I was watching 24 last night. At one point, Fox aired a commercial featuring the actress who plays the President on the show. The actress informed us that the threats depicted in the show are fictional, but that we must act to counter the REAL threat of climate change!

I was completely disgusted. I don't think that I'll ever want to tune in to another episode of their show.

484 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:40:49am

re: #481 Pass The Moonbaticide

Research team? Oh, you mean the ones shown the door right after GW left the building. You know, the ones that knew what to do?

485 MJBrutus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:41:22am

re: #481 Pass The Moonbaticide


... and Hillary was no better. She gave Russian President Medvedev a joke 'button' with what she believed was the Russian word for 'Reset' (with the implication Obama wants to Reset American-Russian relations after Bush) . It turns out the word translated as 'Overpriced' !
Where the hell are the Research Team ?

I thought it was an easy button! The message being an invitation to Putin to just walk all over us, because we're easy.

486 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:42:16am

re: #480 littleoldlady
Gordon Brown used to be my MP when I lived in Scotland. He represents a constituency called Kirkcaldy on the East Coast of Fife.
I live near Portsmouth in England now. Thank The Lord !

487 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:42:53am

re: #482 sattv4u2

I don't recall what format it was, but when I was overseas one of my buddies got a VHS tape from home. When we threw it in the machine we got 4 hours of WWF wrestling in 20 minutes. Only problem with the tape was the speed. Everything else was fairly clear.

/best t.v. wrestling I ever saw.

488 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:43:26am

re: #485 MJBrutus

I thought it was an easy button! The message being an invitation to Putin to just walk all over us, because we're easy.

No .. it was meant to read DONT WALK ! :)

489 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:44:10am

re: #483 MJBrutus

So I was watching 24 last night. At one point, Fox aired a commercial featuring the actress who plays the President on the show. The actress informed us that the threats depicted in the show are fictional, but that we must act to counter the REAL threat of climate change!

I was completely disgusted. I don't think that I'll ever want to tune in to another episode of their show.

I watch 24 on hulu.com the next day--limited commercials. I love the show---it shows that there are indeed some situations in which aggressive coercive tactics are required--and I couldn't care less about the politics of its actors.

Good morning, Lizards!

490 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:45:10am

re: #483 MJBrutus

So I was watching 24 last night. At one point, Fox aired a commercial featuring the actress who plays the President on the show. The actress informed us that the threats depicted in the show are fictional, but that we must act to counter the REAL threat of climate change!

I was completely disgusted. I don't think that I'll ever want to tune in to another episode of their show.

I can tell it was fiction. I mean .. it had a black president. I mean .. what are the chances of ......

491 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:45:19am

If Bud Abbott and Lou Costello were alive today, their Infamous sketch, 'Who's on First?' might have turned out something like this:

COSTELLO CALLS TO BUY A COMPUTER FROM ABBOTT

ABBOTT: Super Duper Computer Store. Can I help you?

COSTELLO: Thanks. I'm setting up an office in my den and I'm thinking about buying a computer.

ABBOTT: Mac?

COSTELLO: No, the name's Lou.

ABBOTT: Your computer?

COSTELLO: I don't own a computer... I want to buy one.

ABBOTT: Mac?

COSTELLO: I told you, my name's Lou.

ABBOTT: What about Windows?

COSTELLO: Why? Will it get stuffy in here?

ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with Windows?

COSTELLO: I don't know. What will I see when I look at the windows?

ABBOTT: Wallpaper.

COSTELLO: Never mind the windows. I need a computer and software.

ABBOTT: Software for Windows?

COSTELLO: No. On the computer! I need something I can use to write proposals, track expenses and run my business. What do you have?

ABBOTT: Office.

COSTELLO: Yeah, for my office. Can you recommend anything?

ABBOTT: I just did.

COSTELLO: You just did what?

ABBOTT: Recommend something.

COSTELLO: You recommended something?

ABBOTT: Yes.

COSTELLO: For my office?

ABBOTT: Yes.

COSTELLO: OK, what did you recommend for my office?

ABBOTT: Office.

COSTELLO: Yes, for my office!

ABBOTT: I recommend Office with Windows.

COSTELLO: I already have an office with windows! OK, let's just say I'm sitting at my computer
and I want to type a proposal.? What do I need?

ABBOTT: Word.

COSTELLO: What word?

ABBOTT: Word in Office.

COSTELLO: The only word in office is office.

ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows.

COSTELLO: Which word in office for windows?

ABBOTT: The Word you get when you click the blue 'W'.

COSTELLO: I'm going to click your blue 'w' if you don't start with some straight answers.What about financial bookkeeping? You have anything I can track my money with?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: That's right. What do you have?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: I need money to track my money?

ABBOTT: It comes bundled with your computer.

COSTELLO: What's bundled with my computer?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: Money comes with my computer?

ABBOTT: Yes. No extra charge.

COSTELLO: I get a bundle of money with my computer? How much?

ABBOTT: One copy.

COSTELLO: Isn't it illegal to copy money?

ABBOTT: Microsoft gave us a license to copy Money.

COSTELLO: They can give you a license to copy money?

ABBOTT: Why not? THEY OWN IT!

A few days later:

ABBOTT: Super Duper computer store. Can I help you?

COSTELLO: How do I turn my computer off?

ABBOTT: Click on 'START'!

492 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:45:57am

re: #478 Erik The Red
... and hello to you.
(Sorry for the delay)

493 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:46:03am

re: #486 Pass The Moonbaticide

Is that an indictment of Brown or Scotland?

;-)

494 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:47:57am

Good morning {goddess}. I hear what you are saying about actors and thier politics. If I decided who to watch and listen to by politics alone, I would have a very short list.

495 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:49:59am

re: #493 littleoldlady
Both. I call it the 'People's Republic of Scotland' now. It's so politically correct. Example : All vending machines in Glasgow hospitals were removed during Ramadan in case Muslim staff were offended. This a week after the Glasgow Airport attack. You couldn't make it up.

496 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:50:02am

goddess! :-)

497 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:50:10am

re: #489 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess} Morning to you.

498 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:51:13am

re: #495 Pass The Moonbaticide

OY. :-(

Still, Brown and his family did not deserve the treatment he received in Washington.

/betcha Obama wouldn't treat the "moderate Taliban" than way!

499 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:51:52am

that, she said.

/and yes I HAVE had plenty of coffee, thanks for asking...

500 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:53:02am

Morning Lizards.

501 herbieham  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:53:31am

haven't bothered to read all the replies to this -sure lot of people who don't understand Christian theology here though.
rapture one view of the end times, as described by the Bible.
theologically jery has it correct.
really not sure what this sort of overnight thread is trying to achieve except show how few people know the binble -or understand Christianity.
MY view -when Christ returns the unsaved will have more to worry about than out of control motor cars -they will have Him to worry about.

502 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:54:05am

re: #498 littleoldlady
That reminds me that I'm going to the PRS (see above) later this month ...
It's my parents' 50th Wedding Anniversary.
Any Lizards with gift ideas ? What do I buy for such an auspicious occasion ?

503 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:54:52am

re: #500 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Morning RS.

504 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:55:49am

re: #502 Pass The Moonbaticide

A gold trimmed tea set?

505 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:56:01am

{Blue Canuck}
{littleoldlady}
{Erik the Red}
{rightside}
{herbieham}
{Pietr}
{Passthemoonbaticide}

506 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:56:21am

rightside! :-)

507 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:56:34am

Waking up to Pre-Millennial Dispensationalist fear-mongering. What could be better?

Cars crashing. Planes dropping out of the sky. I'm not sure he understands the Bible he reads.

508 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:57:10am

re: #501 herbieham
Falwell be have been a kook, but his Rapture theology is largely accurate. Read the relevant passage at 1st Thessalonians Ch. 4.
Anyone ever see the 'Left Behind' series of films ? Same subject matter.

509 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:57:59am

re: #506 littleoldlady

rightside! :-)

Fruit cup maker !

510 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:58:05am

re: #502 Pass The Moonbaticide

Tickets to something fun. "Stuff" sits around, and I've been selling off my parents' old anniversary gifts (still boxed - never used) on ebay and at yard sales...

/I don't recommend General Motors stock!

511 MJBrutus  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:58:45am

re: #494 BlueCanuck

Good morning {goddess}. I hear what you are saying about actors and thier politics. If I decided who to watch and listen to by politics alone, I would have a very short list.

You're right of course, and I should be over it. It's just that this ad was so jarring to me because it was so ironic in telling us about the real threat of climate change for Pete's sake (even though we depict fictional terrorism, terrorism isn't a real threat to us)! The actress was chosen obviously to impart some measure of credibility to this drivel (I'm not really the Prez, but I play one on TV). This was a message from Fox, the studio, not simply some bubble-headed actress. It was apparently sponsored by the network itself and wasn't a paid commercial message.

512 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:59:38am

re: #510 littleoldlady
For £50 I should be able to buy GM outright !

513 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:01:00am

BUNNY! :-)

514 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:01:44am

re: #512 Pass The Moonbaticide


For £50 I should be able to buy GM outright !

That would be a unique gift! LOL!

515 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:02:01am

I am hoping that when I get Stateside in June they are giving away cars to free up space. Either that or 44 will buy me a new one to keep GM going for a few more months.

I need a house in Florida too.

516 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:03:15am

re: #505 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

lol!

Please, hurry, hurry, hurry!

517 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:03:56am

re: #514 littleoldlady
Just out of interest, LoL, wher are you resident ?
You always seem to be active in the wee sma' hours !

518 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:04:15am

you think YOU'VE got a tough commute to work ?!?!?

[Link: gmy.news.yahoo.com...]

(why don't they just add another car?!?!?!)

519 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:04:18am

re: #475 Pass The Moonbaticide

re: #482 sattv4u2

I was last stationed in England from '81 to '84-and prepared for it. I purchased a 9 band radio/tv/cassette boom box. It was heavy as hell, because Flat Screens were not an option then. However, it'd work on any voltage, any cycle rate, and had an NTSC/PAL switch. Additionally, I could use it on battery; It wore out many years ago, but was a nice go anywhere system.

520 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:05:13am

re: #517 Pass The Moonbaticide

Suburban Philadelphia.

/you've heard of Philadelphia, right?
//City of Brotherly Love™
///unless you're a cop... :-(

521 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:07:02am

re: #508 Pass The Moonbaticide


Falwell be have been a kook, but his Rapture theology is largely accurate. Read the relevant passage at 1st Thessalonians Ch. 4.
Anyone ever see the 'Left Behind' series of films ? Same subject matter.

This version of eschatology, of "rapture theology", has only been around since the 1830's. Were Christians ignorant or believers in an incomplete faith before then?

522 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:07:30am

re: #505 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Goddess.....another day of shaping young minds ahead for you; may it be pleasant and fruitfull......

523 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:09:19am

re: #519 Pietr
Technology moves so fast nowadays. I was thinking recently of my age , in that an entire technology - Cassette Tapes - came and went in my lifetime (Cassettes were only introduced in 1973. I can even remember having a Reel-to-Reel before that).
Now CDs are almost on their Final shout !
... And I'm only 47 !

524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:09:32am

re: #515 Erik The Red

I am hoping that when I get Stateside in June they are giving away cars to free up space. Either that or 44 will buy me a new one to keep GM going for a few more months.

I need a house mansion in Florida too.

Well. Since you're asking.

525 Buster Bunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:11:03am

re: #521 David IV of Georgia

This version of eschatology, of "rapture theology", has only been around since the 1830's. Were Christians ignorant or believers in an incomplete faith before then?

Its a fear thing. You wouldnt understand.

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:12:48am

re: #523 Pass The Moonbaticide

Don't forget the LPs and 8tracks!

527 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:14:22am

re: #523 Pass The Moonbaticide


Technology moves so fast nowadays. I was thinking recently of my age , in that an entire technology - Cassette Tapes - came and went in my lifetime (Cassettes were only introduced in 1973. I can even remember having a Reel-to-Reel before that).
Now CDs are almost on their Final shout !
... And I'm only 47 !

Indeed. My brother's restored 1968 Chevrolet Impala (bought new by our father) has a working 8 track player. We are always scrounging around for tapes for it and I came up with a doozy at a garage sale: the 1968 Chevrolet demonstration tape like the one that came with the car, new and still in the wrapper. I gave 3 bucks for it.

528 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:15:00am

re: #521 David IV of Georgia
I can't state for sure about previous ages' theological beliefs, but the Bible hasn't changed any since St. Paul wrote that letter.
I suppose we're now living in more straightened times , so people are thinking more about how 'The Last Things' might actually pan out.
There have always been Doom-mongers , of course. History is littered with examples of freaks who set up cults which rapidly dissolve when the promised Apocalypse doesn't materialise with anything more in the sky than pranksters' fireworks !

529 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:15:17am

re: #518 sattv4u2

you think YOU'VE got a tough commute to work ?!?!?

[Link: gmy.news.yahoo.com...]

(why don't they just add another car?!?!?!)

or invent a "shover robot".

530 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:15:54am

re: #523 Pass The Moonbaticide

I had an Akai and another brand 'Reel to Reel' decks-in fact I had 2 stereo setups with reel to reel. Made like 200 plus 4 hour tapes, but the tapes aged and the tape decks crashed....but yes, we've seen lots of technology change in each decade since about the 50's.......

531 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:16:10am

re: #527 Shiplord Kirel

Three bucks? Did they at least give you a kiss?

532 3 wood  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:16:20am

Good morning.

Look for the stock market to actually open up today. The futures are up, there are some bargains out there, and the short sellers who have been pounding the market are starting to get nervous that not even Obama can keep damaging the market forever.

533 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:16:56am

Good Morning LGF.

And a Happy Purim (the festival of "Lots") to Jewish lizards everywhere. Ironically, the date of the holiday follows the date chosen by the Persian anti-Semite Haman, who conducted a lottery to choose the date on which the Jews of the city of Shoshan would be rounded up and killed.

Fortunately for the Jews, things didn't quite work out the way Haman planned, and he ended up being executed on the same gallows he had prepared for the public hanging of the Jewish leader Mordecai.

Of course it didn't hurt that Queen Esther was a secretly Jewish babe who was related to the Jewish leader Mordecai, and that she was able to convince the King to nix Haman's plans. A little luck and some schlepp (influence) in the right places never hurts.

And BTW, the Persians of the time were definitely not Islamic, since the events occurred long before Mohammed.

534 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:17:05am

Good morning Lizards, how are you?

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:17:20am

"Sunrise Earth"... Hot air balloons over Vermont.

536 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:18:26am

re: #532 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the stock market to actually open up today. The futures are up, there are some bargains out there, and the short sellers who have been pounding the market are starting to get nervous that not even Obama can keep damaging the market forever.

Apparently even Citigroup was profitable for the first two months. I'm guessing largely due to the huge capital infusion so I think this story is somewhat of a misnomer.

537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:19:04am

re: #532 3 wood

Mornin' Wood!

I've had (believe it or not) a couple of decent months in the kitchen remodeling business.

Go figure.

538 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:20:44am

re: #533 Spare O'Lake

Spare! :-)

Thank you and backatcha! :-)

Typical Jewish holiday:
They tried to kill us.
We won.
Let's eat!

539 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:21:53am

re: #534 Chicago Blonde

Good morning Lizards, how are you?

Morning CB. With this DLS the Lizards come out to play earlier. :)

540 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:21:54am

Michelle Obama volunteered at a soup kitchen last week. But it didn't take long for this picture to go cruising around the Internet ......question: if this guy is homeless and can't afford to eat, what is he doing with a camera phone?

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

541 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:22:58am

re: #534 Chicago Blonde

Good Morning,CB-my household in Tx is doing OK. Did any of those twisters come close to you?

542 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:23:08am

re: #538 littleoldlady

(((Littleoldlady)))

Morning! Hamentaschen and coffee...mmmm that sounds good. Never eaten it before but that's my next mission...

543 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:23:19am

Which reminds me ... I have a ton of Shalach Munez to deliver today.

/feh.

Good day, ALL!™

Pass The Moonbaticide,

Good to see you! Don't be a stranger, m'kay? :-)

544 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:23:46am

Back shortly ... I suffer from the curse of the English ...
I need a cup of TEA .

Thinks : Tastes so good I'm surprised the Government doesn't tax it.
(Growls from American Lizards who know their history ...)

545 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:24:03am

Chicago Blonde! :-)

Goes well with fruitcup, too. ;-)

*p00f!*

546 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:25:09am

re: #539 Erik The Red

re: #541 Pietr

And with stronger coffee. I hate DLS.

Hi Pietr! We're fine thanks and I'm glad you are too. Rain by us last night, nothing bad. Storms could come in today.

547 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:26:33am

re: #538 littleoldlady

Spare! :-)

Thank you and backatcha! :-)

Typical Jewish holiday:
They tried to kill us.
We won.
Let's eat!

Thanks! I'll have a couple of poppy-seed hamantashen please.

548 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:26:37am

re: #544 Pass The Moonbaticide

Back shortly ... I suffer from the curse of the English ...
I need a cup of TEA .

Thinks : Tastes so good I'm surprised the Government doesn't tax it.
(Growls from American Lizards who know their history ...)

I actually subverted many of my neighbors in the UK on my 2 tours there-I taught them how to enjoy iced tea, and barbecue ribs.....:>))

549 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:30:07am

re: #508 Pass The Moonbaticide
Falwell's idea of the Rapture reads a lot into 2 Thesssalonians 4, the same way that the seven year Tribulation thoery reads a lot into Ezekiel.
As i read the Gospels, Christ asks his followers to follow him- not to obsess about the End.

550 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:31:14am

re: #548 Pietr

I actually subverted many of my neighbors in the UK on my 2 tours there-I taught them how to enjoy iced tea, and barbecue ribs.....:>))

Fun bringing people to the dark side, isn't it? :)

551 3 wood  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:36:11am

re: #536 Jetpilot1101

Probably, but they have cut a lot of staff.

One thing to remember about the Citigroup situation, is they did buy up a lot of bad assets at the request of the Fed's last fall to help out when all this started. Those assets are now a large part of the problem for Citigroup now. For the Fed's to now stand by and let Citigroup go down would mean that nobody would ever cooperate with the Fed's again.

552 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:37:34am

re: #549 Jim in Virginia
True enough. And Christ spoke about the end of the AGE,
never about the end of the WORLD.
However, he did warn His followers to be vigilant about His promised return (remember the parable of the Ten Virgins ?) and warned that
He would return at a time when least expected, possibly through the number of false calls and rumours about previous returns that were
without foundation.
He comes 'as a thief in the night', in His own words.

553 3 wood  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:38:19am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood!

I've had (believe it or not) a couple of decent months in the kitchen remodeling business.

Go figure.

That's great news. I figure people are deciding to fix up their current home rather than buy a new house. Much like people are fixing up the old jalopy instead of buying a new car.

Also, the savings rate has been skyrocketing, so there is more spendable cash out there for some people to use.

554 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:39:56am

re: #521 David IV of Georgia

Um, it's been around since Paul wrote 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

555 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:40:51am

re: #551 3 wood

But somehow, we can all still buy a new house and nurses for OctoMom.

556 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:43:42am

re: #33 kimmie7

Because I've been kind of a hit and miss reader. I guess I missed threads where Christians had been made fun of, but I'm a Christian and won't take part in that kind of thing. I ignored the creation debate because I get enough arguing from my pre-adolescent son...don't care to do more online.

I'm no Swaggart fan, don't mistake me for that. I just don't plan to use the account now and thought I'd free up one spot on their rolls. Just trying to be polite.

I had clicked out before getting confirmation on my posting, or I wouldn't have come back to check on it. ;-) Thanks for asking nicely, and have a great night.

Please go back to Freerepublic where your friends are.

557 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:43:45am

re: #553 3 wood

Morning 3wood. The Index Record web site I use seems to be down. Any other site I could look at?

Thanks

558 Tigger2005  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:43:47am

re: #540 sattv4u2

Michelle Obama volunteered at a soup kitchen last week. But it didn't take long for this picture to go cruising around the Internet ......question: if this guy is homeless and can't afford to eat, what is he doing with a camera phone?

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

He's a former Wall Street executive. He's sold everything else, but kept the phone. Hey, he needs something to schedule job interviews.

559 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:44:16am

re: #555 Chicago Blonde
I see police were called EIGHT times in one night after 'OctoMom' threatened suicide.
Why didn't the Fertility Doctor note she was mentally instable before going ahead with the implants ? HE'S as much of a freak !

560 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:45:06am

re: #534 Chicago Blonde

Morning CB.

561 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:46:08am

re: #553 3 wood

I have had four customers in the last month who have been thinking about doing something for years, and figured since they could (clearly) afford it, this would be a good time.

I swear...almost as a patriotic duty.

God Bless 'Em!

(for those four, I have had 50 who are hiding under their kitchen table, waiting on their world to end.) So it's not all good.

562 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:46:29am

re: #555 Chicago Blonde

But somehow, we can all still buy a new house and nurses for OctoMom.

Does she need a nice road...:)

563 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:47:32am

re: #530 Pietr

I had an Akai and another brand 'Reel to Reel' decks-in fact I had 2 stereo setups with reel to reel. Made like 200 plus 4 hour tapes, but the tapes aged and the tape decks crashed....but yes, we've seen lots of technology change in each decade since about the 50's.......


I still have my Akai reel to reel. Whenever I talk to our kids friends, who are all in their 30's they always ask "What's a reel to reel"?
It still works well but tape is impossible to find.

564 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:49:34am

re: #559 Pass The Moonbaticide


I see police were called EIGHT times in one night after 'OctoMom' threatened suicide.
Why didn't the Fertility Doctor note she was mentally instable before going ahead with the implants ? HE'S as much of a freak !

Yeah, he's a pinhead too. And I feel so sorry for those kids - they didn't ask for this - but there are no words for how I resent her getting a $500K house from us.
*my head hurts*

565 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:49:57am

re: #560 rightside

Good morning Rightside!

566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:50:03am

re: #563 Scorch

Toss it Scorch...just toss it.

567 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:50:48am

re: #562 Dustyvet

Does she need a nice road...:)

That goof gets enough help; don't waste the Mighty Litter Kicker's talents on her! :) Give him an ear-scratch for me though.

568 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:51:28am

Honest, Stinky-#9 is part of the joke, and does not represent any personal opinions

1. Lincoln placed his hand on the Bible for his inauguration. Obama
used the same Bible..
2. Lincoln came from Illinois . Obama comes from Illinois .
3. Lincoln served in the Illinois Legislature. Obama served in the
Illinois Legislature.
4. Lincoln had very little experience before becoming President. Obama
had very little experience before becoming President.
5. Lincoln rode the train from Philadelphia to Washington for his
inauguration. Obama rode the train from Philadelphia to Washington for
his inauguration.
6. Lincoln was a skinny lawyer. Obama is a skinny lawyer.
7. Lincoln was a Republican. Obama is a skinny lawyer.
8. Lincoln was highly respected. Obama is a skinny lawyer.
9. Lincoln was born in the United States . Obama is a skinny lawyer.
10. Lincoln was called Honest Abe. Obama is a skinny lawyer.

569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:51:56am

re: #564 Chicago Blonde

Yeah, he's a pinhead too. And I feel so sorry for those kids - they didn't ask for this - but there are no words for how I resent her getting a $500K house from us.
*my head hurts*

Want to help those children?

Take them from their mother.

JMOICBW

570 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:52:39am

re: #563 Scorch

I still have my Akai reel to reel. Whenever I talk to our kids friends, who are all in their 30's they always ask "What's a reel to reel"?
It still works well but tape is impossible to find.

What would you want for it? I married a tech geek -

571 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:52:42am

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, the advantage of reel to reel is you can play Beatles and Led Zeppelin albums backwards to find all the demonic messages.

572 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:53:13am

re: #564 Chicago Blonde
... and remember that $900 Billion of your taxes are set aside for Palestinians' houses.

/Stands clear as CBs head explodes.

573 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:53:42am

re: #567 Chicago Blonde

That goof gets enough help; don't waste the Mighty Litter Kicker's talents on her! :) Give him an ear-scratch for me though.

Will do...:) He sends many purrs...

574 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:54:10am

re: #571 LynnfromNZ

Okay. Toss it Scorch...just toss it.

575 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:54:12am

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Toss it Scorch...just toss it.

LOL it is boxed and stored along with the old disc movie player from the early 80's. Just cannot bear throwing out old technology.

576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:54:49am

re: #575 Scorch

Oh, okay. Toss it Scorch...just toss it.

577 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:55:23am

Morning Lizards!

If no one has said it before, cars are mentioned in the Bible! In Acts 2:1, a Honda is mentioned: And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

A Plymouth: Genesis 27:44: And tarry with him a few days, until thy brother's fury turn away;

:)

578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:55:23am

re: #575 Scorch

LOL it is boxed and stored along with the old disc movie player from the early 80's. Just cannot bear throwing out old technology.

Same box as your IBM Selectric? Bet you have one of those too. Admit it.

579 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:55:51am

re: #533 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.

And a Happy Purim (the festival of "Lots") to Jewish lizards everywhere. Ironically, the date of the holiday follows the date chosen by the Persian anti-Semite Haman, who conducted a lottery to choose the date on which the Jews of the city of Shoshan would be rounded up and killed.

Fortunately for the Jews, things didn't quite work out the way Haman planned, and he ended up being executed on the same gallows he had prepared for the public hanging of the Jewish leader Mordecai.

Of course it didn't hurt that Queen Esther was a secretly Jewish babe who was related to the Jewish leader Mordecai, and that she was able to convince the King to nix Haman's plans. A little luck and some schlepp (influence) in the right places never hurts.

And BTW, the Persians of the time were definitely not Islamic, since the events occurred long before Mohammed.

Good morning, Lizards.

(Especially to Sharmuta, littleoldlady, Chicago Blonde, and of course Mr. Blonde.)

As a side note to the above, I was watching The Golden Voyage of Sinbad the other night (great movie- I love Caroline Munro) and was struck by the incongruity of the references to Allah. The historical Sinbad stories predate Islam by a few centuries; if Sinbad really existed at all, he might have been Persian, but considering that most of the stories seem to have emanated from the Eastern Mediterranean Basin at least initially, he would more likely have been a Phoenician mariner. And yes, they did range into the Indian Ocean on their voyages of exploration, going through the Red Sea and sometimes clear around Africa to get there.

Sinbad the Sailor- Wiki

/just a bit of trivia for a quiet morning- it is quiet, isn't it?

cheers

eon

580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:56:06am

re: #577 SteveC

Baseball too. Genesis 1:1.

In the "big inning".

581 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:56:07am

re: #575 Scorch

LOL it is boxed and stored along with the old disc movie player from the early 80's. Just cannot bear throwing out old technology.

Bet he's got an eight track player too...wink...:)

582 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:56:36am

re: #571 LynnfromNZ

Hey, the advantage of reel to reel is you can play Beatles and Led Zeppelin albums backwards to find all the demonic messages.

Good morning Lizards.

You just described me at age 13. I was an audio geek. I played everything backwards, I spliced wires, created phasing using two machines at alternate speeds...

583 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:56:45am

re: #570 Chicago Blonde

What would you want for it? I married a tech geek -

Cannot sell it, might come in handy someday!

584 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:57:29am

Wired magazine, March 09, just got it. The Secret Formula that Destroyed Wall Street by Felix Salmon. David X. Li, a Chinese math wizard developed a risk measurement model in a Gaussian copula function that provided a means to assessment of complex risks. Too much faith was placed in the model, which fell apart in the last few months causing the market crash we now enjoy. It's a very well written article, and scary as hell. Li has now returned to China and dropped out of contact. Conspiracy theories, anyone?

585 Bumr50  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:58:21am

re: #575 Scorch

Are you referring to LaserDis[ END OF SIDE ONE]


//

586 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:58:36am

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Same box as your IBM Selectric? Bet you have one of those too. Admit it.

I'm worse. A manual portable. Used for writing letters as opposed to emails when the printer goes down.

/And if you'd ever seen my handwriting, you'd know why, too.

cheers

eon

587 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:59:14am

re: #571 LynnfromNZ

Hey, the advantage of reel to reel is you can play Beatles and Led Zeppelin albums backwards to find all the demonic messages.

Only if your deck allows you to select the play heads-my Akai did. Otherwise, you only get normal play, even with an auto reverse deck. That uses a 4 head set up, with the # 2 & 4 head for forward, with 1 and 3 for reverse, IIRC......

588 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:59:16am

re: #572 Pass The Moonbaticide


... and remember that $900 Billion of your taxes are set aside for Palestinians' houses.

/Stands clear as CBs head explodes.


I'm leaving my opinion on that money out because I like it here and want to stay.

I know there are [other] nations & people that are starving and it's good to help when we can, but when I point out to people that we need to get our own house in order before we can help others they look at me like I'm an idiot.

589 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:59:21am

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Same box as your IBM Selectric? Bet you have one of those too. Admit it.

Ok I admit it. I'm the one responsible for the Bush National Guard document.

590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:59:52am

Well, I guess if "Red Dawn" ever happens, I'll be glad I know some of you guys.

Probably not.

/

591 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:00:39am

re: #580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Baseball too. Genesis 1:1.

In the "big inning".

And coffee: He Brews.

592 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:02am

re: #584 UncleRancher

Must be true, I don't even know what you were talking about! :P

593 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:06am

BTW, I thought I saw a news article yesterday that YouTube has withdrawn ALL music videos due to copyright reasons.
Can this be true ? What will Charles do for Obscure Jazz now ?

594 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:11am

re: #583 Scorch

I understand. Mr. Blonde is the same way.

595 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:24am

re: #555 Chicago Blonde

But somehow, we can all still buy a new house and nurses for OctoMom.

Four bedrooms for 17 people (kids + mom + GMa + GPa)?

"One of my kids for a while, I noticed, he didn't want to deal with the reality of what's going on. I noticed some tears coming down his face. I held him for ten minutes and he held me back and that's all he needed."

Stupid fucking idiot. It takes more than 10 minutes to get over this kind of pain. DOES SHE EVEN KNOW HIS NAME?

596 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:28am

re: #584 UncleRancher

Wired magazine, March 09, just got it. The Secret Formula that Destroyed Wall Street by Felix Salmon. David X. Li, a Chinese math wizard developed a risk measurement model in a Gaussian copula function that provided a means to assessment of complex risks. Too much faith was placed in the model, which fell apart in the last few months causing the market crash we now enjoy. It's a very well written article, and scary as hell. Li has now returned to China and dropped out of contact. Conspiracy theories, anyone?

Is that the guy that was e-mailing Zombie? You may have not have been on at the time, but Zombie was posting a few weeks ago about a Chinese mathematician that was e-mailing her/him about a formula he had created but the math journals wouldn't touch. I'll see if I can find Zombie's post about it.

597 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:38am

re: #581 Dustyvet

Bet he's got an eight track player too...wink...:)

Well since you brought it up I do have a motorola 8 track player along with a 4 track player. All boxed and stored. :)

598 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:01:42am

Food fight in the Bible: Zechariah 5:1 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.

And that wasn't no little bagged dinner roll either! The next verse says "And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits."

1 Cubit = about 46 centimeters

599 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:02:07am

re: #586 eon

I'm worse. A manual portable. Used for writing letters as opposed to emails when the printer goes down.

/And if you'd ever seen my handwriting, you'd know why, too.

cheers

eon

I learned to type on an Army manual type writer, which came with a duce and half truck full of carbon paper...:P

600 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:02:43am

re: #597 Scorch

Well since you brought it up I do have a motorola 8 track player along with a 4 track player. All boxed and stored. :)

Ah Ha...!

601 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:03:51am

re: #587 Pietr

I used to really wonder at preachers who -- this was big in the '70s -- would warn youth of the dangers of rock music played backwards -- "back masking," I believe it was called, citing Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin albums and claiming to have found "demonic messages" embedded therein.

I always thought if they listened to the records forwards that should give 'em enough ammo for a number of sermons.

602 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:03:52am

re: #595 MandyManners

Stupid fucking idiot. It takes more than 10 minutes to get over this kind of pain. DOES SHE EVEN KNOW HIS NAME?

603 DaddyG  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:03:53am

Here is a good reference on the origins of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory.

http://www.theologue.org/origins.html

It is very loosely based on a few scriptures and not something I subscribe to evan as somone who believes the Bible is scripture. Statements like the one above from Falwell make me want to paraphrase a Jeff Foxworthy joke:

We're not all stupid in the South religion, we just can't keep the stupidest of us off of the TV.

604 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:04:05am

re: #598 SteveC

Food fight in the Bible: Zechariah 5:1 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.

And that wasn't no little bagged dinner roll either! The next verse says "And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits."

1 Cubit = about 46 centimeters

UFP?

/Unidentified Flying Pastry

cheers

eon

605 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:04:18am

re: #593 Pass The Moonbaticide

BTW, I thought I saw a news article yesterday that YouTube has withdrawn ALL music videos due to copyright reasons.
Can this be true ? What will Charles do for Obscure Jazz now ?

Huh? I watched a few last night. Still got the hots for Bond.

/I shoulda took up violin!

606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:04:29am

re: #601 LynnfromNZ

Close. "Backward Masking". Southern protestant here.

607 BlueCanuck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:04:36am

re: #599 Dustyvet

I learned to type on an Army manual type writer, which came with a duce and half truck full of carbon paper...:P

Try learning to type on an old cast iron frame Underwood. You actually had to use muscles to type an essay or project on one of those.

608 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:04:42am

re: #569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #595 MandyManners

I know. I feel awful for those kids. Nobody asks to be born to a freakshow. And no, they don't get the care they need. They'll probably all need therapy - I would with that for a "mom" - and we'll get to pay for that, too!

609 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:04:48am

re: #598 SteveC

The disciples drove a Honda: "And they were all together in one Accord."

610 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:05:17am

re: #604 eon

UFP?

/Unidentified Flying Pastry

cheers

eon

Klingons off the starboard bow...:)

611 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:05:33am

re: #604 eon

UFP?

/Unidentified Flying Pastry

cheers

eon

Pass the butter!

612 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:05:52am

re: #594 Chicago Blonde

I understand. Mr. Blonde is the same way.

Salute to Mr Blonde!

613 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:06:00am

re: #610 Dustyvet

Oh no......now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head.

614 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:06:04am

re: #610 Dustyvet

Klingons off the starboard bow...:)

It's life Jim; not as we know it.

615 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:06:21am

re: #610 Dustyvet

Klingons off the starboard bow...:)

Or maybe a gigantic space wedgie of immense size and power... ;-)

cheers

eon

616 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:06:33am

re: #606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Indeed, you're right. Thanks. New York (Word of Life Camp) - Virginia Protestant here.

617 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:07:28am

re: #614 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You too?!?!?

Here ya go.

618 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:07:36am

re: #596 Bloodnok

Is that the guy that was e-mailing Zombie? You may have not have been on at the time, but Zombie was posting a few weeks ago about a Chinese mathematician that was e-mailing her/him about a formula he had created but the math journals wouldn't touch. I'll see if I can find Zombie's post about it.

If that's the same individual it would be a major coincidence. Zombie was around earlier.

619 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:07:43am

re: #605 SteveC
I may have got the tense wrong ... Perhaps they are planning to withdraw these videos after some notice period ?

620 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:08:03am

re: #611 SteveC

Pass the butter!

Ooohh. Buttered rolls...

cheers

eon

621 DaddyG  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:08:04am

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Same box as your IBM Selectric? Bet you have one of those too. Admit it.

I learned to type on an Avacado Green IBM Selectric. The little font balls were cool.

622 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:08:16am

re: #609 LynnfromNZ

The disciples drove a Honda: "And they were all together in one Accord."

The Bible also predicted the Obama Presidency :

"Jesus Wept."

623 Pietr  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:08:22am

re: #599 Dustyvet

I learned to type on an Army manual type writer, which came with a duce and half truck full of carbon paper...:P

And onion skin paper for the multi copy work (the typewriter wouldn't get all copies dark, if one used normal bond paper)....:>))

624 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:08:28am

re: #609 LynnfromNZ

The disciples drove a Honda: "And they were all together in one Accord."

Still remember the Honda ads while I was in Vietnam. The VC ran around on Honda Motor Bikes. "You met the nicest people on a Honda" ad was running in the US on TV.

625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:08:35am

re: #616 LynnfromNZ

Funny...every church I've ever visited where they spent a lot of time on heaven and hell, and this kind of nonsense... I kind of wander away (read: run out the door like my hair's on fire).

626 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:09:49am

re: #606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Close. "Backward Masking". Southern protestant here.

A few years ago it was THE THING to burn "demonic" books and records in my area. This guy came to the next town over, and according to the newspaper ad he was going to preach a little fire and brimstone and then they were going to have a burnin'.

He was also going to set us strobe lights and high speed cameras so they could "capture images of the demons as they escaped the fire."

Whoa. Just take your hand off the throttle there, man. Your engine is revving a little too high.

627 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:10:14am

re: #596 Bloodnok

Is that the guy that was e-mailing Zombie? You may have not have been on at the time, but Zombie was posting a few weeks ago about a Chinese mathematician that was e-mailing her/him about a formula he had created but the math journals wouldn't touch. I'll see if I can find Zombie's post about it.


Zombie's encounter with a strange Chinese mathematician.

628 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:10:27am

re: #615 eon

Or maybe a gigantic space wedgie of immense size and power... ;-)

Pure Energy!

629 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:11:16am

re: #626 SteveC

Whatever else can be said about demons, I don't think they live in old KISS lps.

630 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:11:19am

Good morning all. Catch 24 last night?
At a commercial break the woman who plays the President (Cherry Jones?), informed us that 24 is fiction! Who knew?
Then she went on to warn of the real impending disaster, Climate Change!

631 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:12:04am

re: #618 UncleRancher

If that's the same individual it would be a major coincidence. Zombie was around earlier.

Agreed. 1.3 billion Chinese people and all....

632 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:12:15am

re: #629 Chicago Blonde

Whatever else can be said about demons, I don't think they live in old KISS lps.

Nope, one became my landlady in Lake County Illinois.


/s

633 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:12:26am

re: #622 SasquatchOnSteroids

The Bible also predicted the Obama Presidency :

"Jesus Wept."

Sermon's over, the truth has been spoken here tonight! Pass the plate, say a prayer, and send the faithful home!

634 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:13:02am

re: #632 Dustyvet

Nope, one became my landlady in Lake County Illinois.

/s

Anyone who watched Reaper know they work at the DMV.

635 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:13:16am

Off to the races ladies and gents. Have a great day.
BTW I currently enjoy our samsung blu ray along with our samsung 50' plasma all piped through our harmon kardon avr for an outstanding movie experience. Of course they will also be boxed sometime in the future. LOL

636 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:16:12am

re: #624 Dustyvet

Still remember the Honda ads while I was in Vietnam. The VC ran around on Honda Motor Bikes. "You met the nicest people on a Honda" ad was running in the US on TV.

Little Honda, Honda
Go faster, faster

Youtube Video
637 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:16:55am

re: #630 opnion

Good morning all. Catch 24 last night?
At a commercial break the woman who plays the President (Cherry Jones?), informed us that 24 is fiction! Who knew?
Then she went on to warn of the real impending disaster, Climate Change!

Well, she was half right, at least, which is more than you can say for the real POTUS at the present time.

/Earth to The One; killing Yucca Mountain and then calling for non-polluting energy to prevent "climate change" while essentially banning any new nuclear power plants is not "depoliticizing science". Just thought you should know.

// I think...

cheers

eon

638 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:17:18am

re: #627 Bloodnok


Zombie's encounter with a strange Chinese mathematician.

That's a possibility. The Wired article goes into detail about how the formula was widely adopted for risk assessment by people who had little understanding of the underlying assumptions and kept building more and more complex instruments to package bad mortgages until the whole thing imploded. If there ever was a way to plant a financial time bomb in the risk assessment business this guy found it.

639 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:17:27am

re: #629 Chicago Blonde
I understand that 'Even Satan himself appears as an Angel of Light, so do not his followers do likewise ?"
I have never believed those who pretend to be Satan-worshippers for career-enhancement reasons were actually so. However, I have known plenty of apparently good people , who take in many , whose motives were far from holy.
The Scots have a proverb : "Beware the unco' guid" IE those who appear overly holy.

640 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:17:54am

Freighter with 16 crew missing off Japan coast

Published: 03.10.09, 12:00 / Israel News

A freighter vanished and its 16 crew are missing after a collision in the Pacific Ocean east of Tokyo on Tuesday, a Japanese Coast Guard spokesman said.
[snip]

641 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:19:10am

I'll check back after I feed the animals.

642 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:19:18am

re: #608 Chicago Blonde

re: #595 MandyManners

I know. I feel awful for those kids. Nobody asks to be born to a freakshow. And no, they don't get the care they need. They'll probably all need therapy - I would with that for a "mom" - and we'll get to pay for that, too!

I'd be happy to pay for that.

Her second publicist quit, saying she is crazy and greedy.

People is a fucking whore. Shame on them for giving this fucking stupid bitch publicity.

643 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:20:07am

re: #637 eon

Well, she was half right, at least, which is more than you can say for the real POTUS at the present time.

/Earth to The One; killing Yucca Mountain and then calling for non-polluting energy to prevent "climate change" while essentially banning any new nuclear power plants is not "depoliticizing science". Just thought you should know.

// I think...

cheers

eon


And, you have noticed how he has tightened his belt during this recession?

644 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:22:29am

Exodus 32:24 And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf.

It just jumped out at us, Moses!

645 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:23:22am

re: #642 MandyManners

You can just tell she's crazy and greedy, can't you? Don't know what the publicist was thinking when they even tried to deal with her.

Ignore her, help the kids - good plan. I'm just tired of cleaning up after other people.

646 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:23:42am

re: #642 MandyManners

I'd be happy to pay for that.

Her second publicist quit, saying she is crazy and greedy.

People is a fucking whore. Shame on them for giving this fucking stupid bitch publicity.

After all the articles they ran on Barack and Michelle, as well as the attack piece on Sarah Palin. Why does this surprise anyone? And if people didn't buy this shit up People wouldn't pay 1 red cent for her story.

647 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:24:23am

re: #643 opnion

And, you have noticed how he has tightened his belt during this recession?

I read that! And I looked out the planes window as I left DC last week, and the entire White House Complex had the lights off by 8:30...

.... Oh! Sorry, guys, that was my pills kicking in. *blush*

648 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:25:26am

re: #647 SteveC

.... Oh! Sorry, guys, that was my pills kicking in. *blush*

Wash em down with some Kool-Aide did ya?

649 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:25:56am

Gotta' get the day rolling for The Kid. bbl

650 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:26:06am

re: #625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hear you. It was never the primary focus of Jesus or Paul's preaching, it shouldn't be today, either.

651 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:26:07am

re: #639 Pass The Moonbaticide

I know when someone comes across as "too good to be true" they often are.

652 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:26:26am

re: #648 soxfan4life

.... Oh! Sorry, guys, that was my pills kicking in. *blush*

Wash em down with some Kool-Aide did ya?

somebody slipped me a mickey!

653 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:28:09am

re: #644 SteveC

Exodus 32:24 And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf.

It just jumped out at us, Moses!

"The Lord is merciful. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures. The problem is I can't get up."

-Woody Allen

654 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:28:55am

re: #647 SteveC

I read that! And I looked out the planes window as I left DC last week, and the entire White House Complex had the lights off by 8:30...

.... Oh! Sorry, guys, that was my pills kicking in. *blush*

Tomorrow is the Regular Wednesday night Soiree. He does this to alleviate the stress, so that he can better serve the little people.

655 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:29:36am

FYI for all patriotic Lizards who have HBO - try see Taking Chance.
[Link: www.hbo.com...]

656 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:30:47am

re: #655 Leonidas Hoplite

FYI for all patriotic Lizards who have HBO - try see Taking Chance.
[Link: www.hbo.com...]

It is a lesson in respect & honor.

657 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:31:22am

G' day from Down Under to {everyone}!

You've inspired me....

I've got my Dad's old movie camera, projector, slide projector and a zillion slides and reels of movies packed away in a dark cupboard

Now I'm going to spend some time over the weekend setting them up and we're going to have a movie/slide night!

I expect Mr Aussiemagpie to suddenly feel the need to wash the three hairs on his head, or rearrange the furniture :-)

The Aussies have just WON the series! Cricket that is.....

658 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:32:04am

(((Aussiemagpie))) that project sounds cool!

659 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:32:18am

re: #656 opnion

It is a lesson in respect & honor.

Thanks to Turn for recommending it yesterday. I am impressed with how well it was done.

660 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:32:37am

Gotta go, folks. Great to spend some time with you all this morning. You've been great company.

661 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:32:58am

Photoshop flashback:

See, there’s no need to debate whether you want him to fail by succeeding or succeed by failing. No need to tear each other apart wondering how better or best conservatives should express themselves.

Barack Obama is FAIL.

662 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:33:14am

re: #660 Pass The Moonbaticide

Especially me. Right?

663 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:33:20am

re: #659 Leonidas Hoplite

Thanks to Turn for recommending it yesterday. I am impressed with how well it was done.

It really was well done & Kevin Bacon did a great job.

664 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:33:32am

re: #657 aussiemagpie

G'day to you from rainy New Zealand. Looking forward to the next Tri-Nations?

665 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:33:37am

re: #660 Pass The Moonbaticide

Have a good day PTM!

666 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:33:49am

re: #654 opnion

Tomorrow is the Regular Wednesday night Soiree. He does this to alleviate the stress, so that he can better serve the little people.

Just do like the little people - tuck the kids in early and hustle Michelle off to the First Bedroom. It'll be cheaper, and as long as he doesn't talk about it we'll keep out sanity.

Might even give him a brighter outlook on life!

667 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:34:47am

re: #658 Chicago Blonde

(((Aussiemagpie))) that project sounds cool!

Hi {Chicago Blond}! I have no idea how anything works of course, and if it's still working :-)
'
But it will be fun trying to make it work..

668 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:36:17am

re: #661 Fat Jolly Penguin

Photoshop flashback:

Now that's funny. 1st time I've seen that.

669 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:36:37am

re: #663 opnion

It really was well done & Kevin Bacon did a great job.

As did Lt. Col. Sobol.

670 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:38:08am

re: #666 SteveC

Just do like the little people - tuck the kids in early and hustle Michelle off to the First Bedroom. It'll be cheaper, and as long as he doesn't talk about it we'll keep out sanity.

Might even give him a brighter outlook on life!


Icepick to the minds eye. Followed by a large dose of bleach.

671 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:38:14am

re: #669 soxfan4life

As did Lt. Col. Sobol.

Here's the trailer...

Youtube Video
672 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:38:50am

re: #666 SteveC

Just do like the little people - tuck the kids in early and hustle Michelle off to the First Bedroom. It'll be cheaper, and as long as he doesn't talk about it we'll keep out sanity.

Might even give him a brighter outlook on life!

BHO has said that he wants every musical act that is in his I Pod to appear at the White House. See how he is sacrificing?

673 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:39:09am

re: #664 LynnfromNZ

G'day to you from rainy New Zealand. Looking forward to the next Tri-Nations?

Hi there! Where are you in NZ?

Yes and we're loving having the Super14s on again !

Especially as our beloved Waratahs are doing so well :-)

674 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:39:15am

re: #672 opnion

I guess some pretty cool perks come with the job.

675 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:39:33am

re: #669 soxfan4life

As did Lt. Col. Sobol.

The Real Deal!

676 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:40:17am

re: #672 opnion

BHO has said that he wants every musical act that is in his I Pod to appear at the White House. See how he is sacrificing?

In addition to the "tea parties" I think restaurants should have Wednesday night pork barbecues. No kidding.

677 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:40:31am

re: #672 opnion

BHO has said that he wants every musical act that is in his I Pod to appear at the White House. See how he is sacrificing?

Are you serious? What a f___ing jackass. He really is just an empty suit celebrity. God help us.

678 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:40:50am

re: #643 opnion

And, you have noticed how he has tightened his belt during this recession?

I've noticed you can now grow orchids in the White House. And that FLOTUS defines a pair of earrings as costing more than my last car did.

And POTUS thinks a $38.99 gift set of "America's Greatest Movies" on DVD is an appropriate welcoming gift for the British Prime Minister. Who brought him a writing desk made from the timbers of a Royal Navy ship that enforced the blockade against the African slave trade. (And the DVDs can't even be played on a non- US player.)

For the record, I don't particularly like Gordon Brown, his philosophy, or his policies. But he's the Prime Minister of Great Britain, for f**k's sake! Just our most important ally going back to the Spanish-American War, is all. (Their Navy was very helpful to our Navy with intel on Spain's Navy in that fracas.) A certain amount of respect is called for; Truman showed it to Clement Attlee, even though the two men agreed on a whole lot less than The One and Mr. Brown do. And we need, and will continue to need, Great Britain's help in certain foreign situations, to say nothing of dealing with the European financial markets (which are sinking faster than Wall Street thanks to The One's crisis-mongering).

The One's "performance" in this meeting confirms to me that he is a talentless, clueless hack who has been promoted at least two levels past his level of incompetence.

2010 can't come too soon for me, so I can see about separating him from a few potential enablers. Here in OH, the two Democratic front-runners to compete for George Voinovich's Senate seat are Lt. Gov. Lee (Gun Owners Are Good- With Fava Beans And A Nice Chianti) Fisher and SecState Jennifer (Being Anything But A Registered Democrat Is Inherently Suspicious And Must Be Investigated) Brunner.

We Buckeyes would love to be shut of these two a$$es, but not at the expense of inflicting them on the nation as a whole. Needless to say, either one would be one more vote solidly in The One's column.

Mark me down as voting for whoever runs against whichever one gets the nomination.

/rant mode off

cheers

eon

679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:41:03am

This is pretty funny...

680 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:41:11am

re: #672 opnion

BHO has said that he wants every musical act that is in his I Pod to appear at the White House. See how he is sacrificing?

(Booming voice) "Summon Earth, Wind and Fire! Bring them to me!"

681 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:41:31am

re: #672 opnion

BHO has said that he wants every musical act that is in his I Pod to appear at the White House. See how he is sacrificing?

And the MSM eat it up with a spoon. And come back for seconds!

682 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:43:27am

re: #657 aussiemagpie

Congrats to your boys aussie.

683 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:43:56am

re: #681 SteveC

And the MSM eat it up with a spoon. And come back for seconds!

Rearrange the following:

Had done that if just imagine George W. Bush

684 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:45:50am

re: #676 Chicago Blonde

re: #677 Leonidas Hoplite

Are you serious? What a f___ing jackass. He really is just an empty suit celebrity. God help us.

Absolutely serious. This is hubris run amok. It is all about him.
See, we need to sacrifice while he parties for us.

685 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:45:52am

re: #680 Bloodnok

(Booming voice) "Summon Earth, Wind and Fire! Bring them to me!"

How about when he introduced Stevie Wonder? "Give it up for Stevie Wonder!"

You're my frakkin' PRESIDENT, not Arsenio Hall!

/I don't want to see you back in 23 hours. Let's go to a commercial!

686 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:46:12am

re: #680 Bloodnok

(Booming voice) "Summon Earth, Wind and Fire! Bring them to me!"

Norf wind bwow!
South wind bwow!
Typhoons!
Huwicanes!
Earthquakes!
SMOOOOOOG!

687 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:46:17am

Guys, I do have an idea here. If any Lizards know conservative restaurateurs we could do some sort of Wednesday night pork barbecue/ feast for us little people, with featured Sam Adams brews - maybe a fundraiser if they'd donate some small measure to a GOP warchest.

Anybody know a way to make it happen?

688 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:46:30am

re: #683 Bloodnok

Rearrange the following:

Had done that if just imagine George W. Bush

This or....

689 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:47:05am

re: #683 Bloodnok

Rearrange the following:

Had done that if just imagine George W. Bush

Do need not to I. Speak Yoda I can!

690 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:47:17am

re: #681 SteveC

And the MSM eat it up with a spoon. And come back for seconds!

Yeah, they will tell us that it just make him even more cool.
Barry did say that he was going to make government cool again.

691 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:47:22am

re: #686 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Norf wind bwow!
South wind bwow!
Typhoons!
Huwicanes!
Earthquakes!
SMOOOOOOG!

CAAAAAAAAAAKE!

692 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:47:22am

re: #684 opnion

re: #677 Leonidas Hoplite


Absolutely serious. This is hubris run amok. It is all about him.
See, we need to sacrifice while he parties for us.

A modern Nero, jammin' with his iPod while everything crashes down around him.

693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:47:34am

re: #691 Chicago Blonde

There's cake?

694 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:48:02am

re: #693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's cake?

There would be if I ran this railroad...

695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:48:19am

re: #692 Leonidas Hoplite

A modern Nero, jammin' with his iPod while everything crashes down around him.

Be it ever so crumbly
There's no place like Rome....

696 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:48:43am

re: #685 SteveC

How about when he introduced Stevie Wonder? "Give it up for Stevie Wonder!"

You're my frakkin' PRESIDENT, not Arsenio Hall!

/I don't want to see you back in 23 hours. Let's go to a commercial!

We have an immature narcissit as POTUS.

697 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:49:16am

re: #682 Erik The Red

Congrats to your boys aussie.

Hi {Erik}
Thanks! Great comeback after last year's series, and it's so good to see Phil Hughes get Man of the Match -nice young bloke!

698 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:49:25am

re: #693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's cake?

Not for us.

699 eon  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:50:16am

Well, I have to run.

Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

700 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:52:38am

re: #696 opnion

We have an immature narcissit as POTUS.

Did anyone see Glenn Beck on Fox and Friends this AM? He said the Manchurian Candidate couldn't take this country down any faster than Obama is.

701 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:53:57am

re: #684 opnion

re: #677 Leonidas Hoplite


Absolutely serious. This is hubris run amok. It is all about him.
See, we need to sacrifice while he parties for us.

As long as it's for us,I guess it's alright.////

702 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:54:53am

re: #701 soxfan4life

As long as it's for us,I guess it's alright.////

Next guest ?

AKorn.

703 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:55:02am

Democrats are amazing creatures, really. They just can not keep themselves from enjoying every fruit of their (cough) labors. To Hell in a handbasket go we, and Obama is thinking of ways to make his starstruck fantasies come to life. Clinton was the same way in 1992 (with a sluggish economy no less).

It reminds me of "Cadillac" Deval in Mass. who took office and immediately spent tens of thousands of dollars the state didn't have to buy new drapes for his office and upgraded the Governor's cars to Escalades.

It's nothing new, but is no less annoying.

704 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:57:03am

Falwell is describing the Rapture: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Every Christian believes some version of this. Falwell is a dispensationalist premillenialist. His belief is common among Christian evangelicals in the U.S., but there is no agreement within Christianity itself on how this may come about. I'm a Christian, but I'm a postmillenialist. That means I believe that all the important spiritual stuff already has happened.

705 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:58:21am

re: #703 Bloodnok

Democrats are amazing creatures, really. They just can not keep themselves from enjoying every fruit of their (cough) labors. To Hell in a handbasket go we, and Obama is thinking of ways to make his starstruck fantasies come to life. Clinton was the same way in 1992 (with a sluggish economy no less).

It reminds me of "Cadillac" Deval in Mass. who took office and immediately spent tens of thousands of dollars the state didn't have to buy new drapes for his office and upgraded the Governor's cars to Escalades.

It's nothing new, but is no less annoying.

They are greedy for power and all its trappings. Though they do everything in the name of the People they care not a stitch for them - they are mere stepping stones to power. Just like all other tyrants of the past.

706 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:00:16am

Worry.

707 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:02:10am

re: #705 Leonidas Hoplite

They are greedy for power and all its trappings. Though they do everything in the name of the People they care not a stitch for them - they are mere stepping stones to power. Just like all other tyrants of the past.

It drove them crazy that GWB and Reagan spent their time off on a mere ranch instead of Martha's Vineyard or the Hamptons. In their minds at least GHWB went to Kennebunkport.

708 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:03:28am

re: #703 Bloodnok

Democrats are amazing creatures, really. They just can not keep themselves from enjoying every fruit of their (cough) labors. To Hell in a handbasket go we, and Obama is thinking of ways to make his starstruck fantasies come to life. Clinton was the same way in 1992 (with a sluggish economy no less).

It reminds me of "Cadillac" Deval in Mass. who took office and immediately spent tens of thousands of dollars the state didn't have to buy new drapes for his office and upgraded the Governor's cars to Escalades.

It's nothing new, but is no less annoying.


Well if Coupe Deval is any indicator, Obama will be begging for Bush like approval ratings in about 2 years. Perfect examples of what happens when someone with no executive experience gets elected to chief executive. And to thank for both David Axelrod. 10 times worse than any lib thinks Rove is.

709 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:03:31am

'Massage therapists' remove man's pants, take cash

TULSA, Okla. – Police said a man was robbed of his casino winnings by two women he met at the casino and invited home with him. The man won about $2,000 at the Creek Nation Casino and then invited the women to gamble with him and go home with him for drinks about 4 a.m. Monday, police said. The man told the officer the women said they were massage therapists and removed his pants then left with his cash.

Crackjack.

710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:03:35am

re: #698 SteveC

Not for us.

Then I hope someone leaves it out in the rain....

711 dentate  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:04:33am

re: #705 Leonidas Hoplite

They are greedy for power and all its trappings. Though they do everything in the name of the People they care not a stitch for them - they are mere stepping stones to power. Just like all other tyrants of the past.

And this is a particularly ironic hallmark of Socialist tyrants. Welcome to the company of Stalin, Mao, et al.

712 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:06:27am

re: #710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then I hope someone leaves it out in the rain....

With lots of sweet green icing, flowing down....

713 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:06:54am

re: #712 Chicago Blonde

Cream, Blondie. Cream.

714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:08:40am

Work. See y'all in a bit.

715 dentate  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:08:56am

re: #713 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cream, Blondie. Cream.

Good Lord! All these decades, and I thought it was "green" too! I will see MacArthur Park in a totally different light now...

716 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:09:49am

re: #713 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cream, Blondie. Cream.

Potato, po-tah-to. 'Tis all one, just gimme cake.

717 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:10:09am

re: #714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have a good one FBV!

718 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:10:53am

Bernanke is Little Miss Sunshine again. He throws a lot of "ifs" and "Buts" into a statement and finally "predicts" that the recession will be over by the end of the year.

719 dentate  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:12:03am

re: #718 SteveC

Bernanke is Little Miss Sunshine again. He throws a lot of "ifs" and "Buts" into a statement and finally "predicts" that the recession will be over by the end of the year.

That depends on what your definition of "over" is of course. And of "year." And "end." And "the."

720 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:12:46am

Developing... (CNN)

Fed chief Ben Bernanke discusses reforming financial system

Can't they wait until lunch time?

721 Rune  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:13:34am
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First please send an e-mail with your full name, your profession and your town to boycottdurban2@yahoo.de. Afterwards your signature will be published on [Link: boycottdurban2.wordpress.com...]

Boycott Durban2

- Remember to sign. Every signature counts.

722 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:13:54am

Bernanke: "Capitalism is the only system we can use if we want to inprove the lives of the average person. That being said...."

SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP. THERE IS NO "THAT BEING SAID".

(He thinks that Capitalism is the way to go, but it has so many up and down cycles that the government needs to do a better job "controlling" Capitalism.)

723 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:15:06am

re: #4 Walter L. Newton

Cars are not in the bible.

Cars are too in the bible:

In His Fury, God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden.

/old click and clack joke

724 SteveC  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:20:36am

Bernake isn't worried about deflation, and he doesn't think Inflation will be very high. THE GOVERNMENT has to be very careful not to do anything to cause inflation.

/Writes "Stock up on canned goods" on To-Do list

725 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:21:05am

re: #710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then I hope someone leaves it out in the rain....

All the sweet green icing ... ?

726 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:21:20am

re: #724 SteveC

Bernake isn't worried about deflation, and he doesn't think Inflation will be very high. THE GOVERNMENT has to be very careful not to do anything to cause inflation.

Too late.

727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:21:57am

"When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away - you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life."

So, do fake boobs go to Heaven?
/the title of National Review Online's review of Left Behind, which they described as "Day of The Jackal, written by Ned Flanders & produced by the AV Club of a Bible college."

728 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:24:37am

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]Your text to link...

729 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:25:01am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees, going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

730 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:25:22am

re: #727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


So, do fake boobs go to Heaven?

What you want is an Imam and a fatwah. MOST Christians (luckily) grew out of the "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" phase a few centuries back.

Falwell is akin to Job's boils ... he wa put here to make a point of some sort ... now whether it was God or the Greys is up for debate ...

731 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:25:53am

re: #728 albusteve

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]Your text to link...

thomas sowell

732 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:26:14am

re: #729 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees, going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

It is going to be 86 here, overcast, and HUMID. blecccch

But there's a cold front coming in, so help is on the way.

733 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:26:28am

re: #727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So, do fake boobs go to Heaven?

*snort* As an unbidden image of lots of left-behind bewildered congress critters sit wailing on the Lincoln Monument...oh, not whatcha meant?

/Bad Blondie, BAD!

734 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:27:43am

re: #733 Chicago Blonde

*snort* As an unbidden image of lots of left-behind bewildered congress critters sit wailing on the Lincoln Monument...oh, not whatcha meant?

/Bad Blondie, BAD!

No, Blondie good. Monkey bad.

/

735 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:28:24am

re: #733 Chicago Blonde

*snort* As an unbidden image of lots of left-behind bewildered congress critters sit wailing on the Lincoln Monument...oh, not whatcha meant?

/Bad Blondie, BAD!

Besides, those are REAL boobs, LOL.

736 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:28:36am

re: #732 OldLineTexan
Hey OLT! Sounds like pretty fair weather you're gonna have today - humidity or not!
How are you doing today?

737 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:28:44am

re: #734 OldLineTexan

LOL! I needed a chuckle, thanks!

738 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:28:49am

Morning all.
Still trying to wrap my head around T.O. being in the AFC East.

739 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:30:00am

re: #735 OldLineTexan

Besides, those are REAL boobs, LOL.

Sorry, must disagree, most of them congress critters are phony as acrylic nails. :)

740 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:30:11am

re: #733 Chicago Blonde
ROFL! No, GOOD Blondie, good! LOL! Good morning for you and thanks for the chuckle.
Here's something to perhaps help pay back that chuckle: [Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

741 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:30:18am

Meals on Wheels ain't a good idea in the Magic Kingdom.

742 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:30:27am

re: #729 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees, going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

*Smooch* darls, and it's a lovely mild night here in Sydney!

And I'm happy too, the Aussies have won the second Test, wrapping up a series win (cricket) :-)

How are you doing?

743 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:30:58am

re: #736 realwest

Hey OLT! Sounds like pretty fair weather you're gonna have today - humidity or not!
How are you doing today?

I'm afraid I might live ... ;)

Full day planned. Yourself?

744 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:31:15am

re: #738 Lincolntf
Oh ok, I'll bite - what's the big deal about T.O. being in the AFC East?

745 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:33:05am

re: #740 realwest

(((Realwest))) LOL! That was funny, even if a little scary! :) Thanks for that!

746 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:33:16am

re: #700 soxfan4life

Did anyone see Glenn Beck on Fox and Friends this AM? He said the Manchurian Candidate couldn't take this country down any faster than Obama is.


That's what he said huh? He will get blow back, but he has a point.
Barry & his collegues could not make things worse , if they were trying.

747 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:33:30am

re: #744 realwest

The Pats have to play him twice. It'll add a bit of spice to the games. Buffalo is in dire need of some spicing.

748 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:33:57am

re: #741 OldLineTexan

Meals on Wheels ain't a good idea in the Magic Kingdom.

That is one screwed up country.

749 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:34:05am

re: #741 OldLineTexan
and
re: #743 OldLineTexan
You know, sometimes I read stories like the one you linked to in your #741 and I really do wonder why we get worked up over a dead jerk like Falwell. The Magic Kingdom is run by Barbarians in Armani Suits. That's just an insult to humanity.
As for your #743 I'm glad to hear your well and busy!
I'm doing ok, but also have the proverbial chores to do today myself!

750 Piglet-U93  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:34:16am

RE: Driving the car

I am a Christian and try to do the right thing. So, when there is an Atheist in the my car I let them drive. I never had one refuse! Alas, I have had mixed results with Agnostics.

751 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:34:26am

Mornin' all! Did any of the '24' fans here catch the moonbat commercial on climate change during the show last night? Could've shot the tv. Don't know what the moonbat said, I immediately changed it until the commercial was over.

752 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:34:52am

re: #744 realwest

Oh ok, I'll bite - what's the big deal about T.O. being in the AFC East?

for one thing he won't play the Cowboys

753 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:35:07am

re: #748 Ward Cleaver

That is one screwed up country.

The problem is that they lack ice floes upon which to set the elderly adrift.

This poor old woman lacked the decency to die when she was no longer of use.

/

754 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:35:50am

re: #751 pingjockey

Mornin' all! Did any of the '24' fans here catch the moonbat commercial on climate change during the show last night? Could've shot the tv. Don't know what the moonbat said, I immediately changed it until the commercial was over.

Morning Pingjockey! If you've dodged it so far don't see "The Happening" - your head will 'splode.

755 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:36:32am

re: #742 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} good evening to you! So the your team won a cricket match heh?
That's pretty cool!
Be cooler if I could understand why people would wear white linens clothing and starched shirts to participate in an "athletic event" as y'all would so merrily put it!
LOL!
I do hope you're well this evening!?

756 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:36:46am

re: #753 OldLineTexan
Don't laugh, what do you think will happen with health care in this country if we get the gubmint running it. "You're sick, 75 years old, it is your duty to die for the state".

757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:36:46am

re: #725 OldLineTexan

All the sweet green icing ... ?

GAH!

758 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:37:03am

getting spooky around here....the R word

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

759 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:37:06am

re: #738 Lincolntf

Morning all.
Still trying to wrap my head around T.O. being in the AFC East.

If defenses key on him like they did here in Dallas, he won't be a factor. And yes, while he's in great physical shape, he's still 35 years old. If he had the maturity level that Jerry Rice had, he'd probably still be playing in San Francisco, working his way toward the Hall of Fame.

760 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:37:17am

re: #746 opnion

That's what he said huh? He will get blow back, but he has a point.
Barry & his collegues could not make things worse , if they were trying.

They ARE trying and, yes, it just might get a lot worse.

761 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:37:19am

re: #741 OldLineTexan

Meals on Wheels ain't a good idea in the Magic Kingdom.

This story is entirely out of context......//////*apologist speaking*

Seriously, what an atrocious thing to do to an older person - just shows the insanity of the ROP

762 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:37:49am

re: #754 Chicago Blonde
Only movies I've been to lately were Ironman and Transformers. I have a 9 year old!

763 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

GAH!

Hahahahahahahaha, that's what I get for typing slowly ... FIFTEEN posts appeared (including your explanation) by the time I finished!

I like "green" better ... kind of an acid trip in the park has always been my impression.

764 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:38:07am

re: #751 pingjockey

Yup. I also did an immediate channel flip.

I could not possibly be more sick of this "climate change" bullshit scam. I'm even sick of hating it.

765 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:38:26am

re: #753 OldLineTexan

The problem is that they lack ice floes upon which to set the elderly adrift.

This poor old woman lacked the decency to die when she was no longer of use.

/

Sadly, that's probably what the mutaween wish would happen.

766 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:38:41am

re: #759 Ward Cleaver

If defenses key on him like they did here in Dallas, he won't be a factor. And yes, while he's in great physical shape, he's still 35 years old. If he had the maturity level that Jerry Rice had, he'd probably still be playing in San Francisco, working his way toward the Hall of Fame.

he's going to the HofF regardless....he has huge numbers

767 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:38:42am

re: #756 pingjockey

Don't laugh, what do you think will happen with health care in this country if we get the gubmint running it. "You're sick, 75 years old, it is your duty to die for the state".

I am going to make some good-looking soylent green, I tell you what.

768 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:05am

re: #762 pingjockey

Only movies I've been to lately were Ironman and Transformers. I have a 9 year old!

Ironman GOOD!

769 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:34am

re: #764 Lincolntf

Yup. I also did an immediate channel flip.

I could not possibly be more sick of this "climate change" bullshit scam. I'm even sick of hating it.

What's next for 24? Jack Bauer becomes an environmental avenger, and blows up coal mines?

770 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:38am

re: #759 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, he's the definition of a "mixed-bag". Always entertaining though, even in failure.

771 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:39am

re: #760 MandyManners
Didja see the 2.1 trillion comes out to almost 19k a household. Now if they'd just given out that 'free money' to households the economy would be clicking!

772 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:42am

re: #751 pingjockey

Mornin' all! Did any of the '24' fans here catch the moonbat commercial on climate change during the show last night? Could've shot the tv. Don't know what the moonbat said, I immediately changed it until the commercial was over.

Yeah it's the actres that plays the President. First she informed us that 24 is fiction. Then she said that the real threat is Climate Change & that we have to reduce our carbon foot prints.
If only she would have said "Climate Chaos", she would have had me.

773 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:54am

On the docket today, debate on Sen. Amendment 164 by Sen. Jeff Sessions to require the use of E-Verify to check status on all people getting jobs from the Stimulus spending. Of course Pelosi and Reid want to kill it because Sessions is Republican. Looking forward to hearing the spin from Obama and crew on this. Apparently 15% of construction jobs going illegal isn't enough. Can't wait for President Salazar to sign the Spanish as our official language bill.

774 smokefire  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:40:11am

re: #745 Chicago Blonde

BLONDIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Eli Wallach [Tuco Ramierez Gonzalez] Says good morning

Youtube Video
775 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:40:22am

re: #720 Walter L. Newton

Developing... (CNN)

Fed chief Ben Bernanke discusses reforming financial system

Can't they wait until lunch time?

Can't they wait till after the market closes?

776 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:40:25am

re: #745 Chicago Blonde
Hey {Blondie} You're more than welcome! Day by Day is a cartoon which is available on the internet only and Chris Muir the cartoonist can get away with saying and drawing things that other cartoonists can't do cause they don't want to piss off their syndicators and lose their income. If you go back to that link, you can hit the previous button a few times and see the real hilarity he finds in Obama and ACORN!

777 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:40:55am

re: #772 opnion

Yeah it's the actres that plays the President. First she informed us that 24 is fiction. Then she said that the real threat is Climate Change & that we have to reduce our carbon foot prints.
If only she would have said "Climate Chaos", she would have had me.

If they'd shut up about it that would be much less hot air already...

778 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:41:24am

re: #747 Lincolntf
Buffalo sure is in need of some spicing........and so their football team!
Rim shot! LOL!

779 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:41:32am

re: #769 Ward Cleaver
I hope he slaps around that anal retentive FBI guy. The PC crowd is running the country in fiction and real life. BTW, how in hell did armed terrorists get in the WH? I know it is fiction, but sheesh.

780 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:41:53am

re: #777 Chicago Blonde

If they'd shut up about it that would be much less hot air already...

Now, now. They're already decreasing water pollution by not evacuating their bowels. That's right, they're full of sh&t!

781 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:41:55am

re: #750 Piglet-U93

RE: Driving the car

I am a Christian and try to do the right thing. So, when there is an Atheist in the my car I let them drive. I never had one refuse! Alas, I have had mixed results with Agnostics.

Probably not a bad idea to keep the sunroof open as much as possible.

782 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:42:04am

re: #758 albusteve

getting spooky around here....the R word

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

I think it's a little early for that kind of talk. But, if the markets really crash, things could get ugly.

783 smokefire  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:42:10am

re: #759 Ward Cleaver

What is the over/under for the first time T.O. starts to pout about not getting the ball thrown to him enough.

Then the Bills fans will be all over him like stink on shit.

784 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:42:22am

re: #774 smokefire

That was AWESOME! Thank you!

785 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:42:25am

re: #770 Lincolntf

Yeah, he's the definition of a "mixed-bag". Always entertaining though, even in failure.

failure?

951 catches
14,122 yds
139 TDs

786 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:42:52am

re: #779 pingjockey

I hope he slaps around that anal retentive FBI guy. The PC crowd is running the country in fiction and real life. BTW, how in hell did armed terrorists get in the WH? I know it is fiction, but sheesh.

All the Marines and security were responding to a medal-throwing incident at the Pennsylvania Ave. fence ...

/

787 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:42:53am

re: #755 realwest

Hey {aussie} good evening to you! So the your team won a cwear starched linen anymorericket match heh?
That's pretty cool!
Be cooler if I could understand why people would wear white linens clothing and starched shirts to participate in an "athletic event" as y'all would so merrily put it!
LOL!
I do hope you're well this evening!?


LOL! They don't wear starched linen anymore!

Yes darls, all is well here at Chez Aussiemagpie :-)

788 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:43:13am

re: #776 realwest

re: #780 OldLineTexan

No matter how I feel when I come here, this place always cheers me up. :)

789 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:44:02am

re: #782 Ward Cleaver

I think it's a little early for that kind of talk. But, if the markets really crash, things could get ugly.

it's the first pundit I've seen talking like that...I wonder if more will follow so I keep an eye out

790 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:45:10am

re: #778 realwest

What's wrong with Buffalo?

791 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:45:40am

Guys, I hate to leave but I need to do some...(whispering the bad word)...w-o-r-k. If I can't sneak back in later today, have a great day!

792 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:45:44am

re: #783 smokefire

What is the over/under for the first time T.O. starts to pout about not getting the ball thrown to him enough.

Then the Bills fans will be all over him like stink on shit.

not to mention the backwater market...it's just money and numbers for him, nothing new except the weather

793 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:46:14am

re: #786 OldLineTexan

Jon halp uz Kary was unavailable for comment.

794 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:46:16am

re: #787 aussiemagpie

LOL! They don't wear starched linen anymore!

Yes darls, all is well here at Chez Aussiemagpie :-)

You just like the look of AB's ass aussie.////

795 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:46:22am

re: #770 Lincolntf

Yeah, he's the definition of a "mixed-bag". Always entertaining though, even in failure.

You missed a real show when he was in his contract hold-out in Philly. The local sports radio had a canned food drive to help his family, which was TO's stated reason for holding out; a pizza delivery boy refused a tip from TO, saying that he (TO) needed the money more than he, always entertaining, to be sure.

796 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:46:26am

re: #756 pingjockey

Don't laugh, what do you think will happen with health care in this country if we get the gubmint running it. "You're sick, 75 years old, it is your duty to die for the state".

'Duty to Die", was introduced by Former Colorado Governor Lamb during the last health care debate,.
It is an ethical question & I do not want government employees with a set of guidelines making the call.
Think of the same type of TSA people that toss Granny's meds at the Airport with the guidlines.

797 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:46:45am

re: #756 pingjockey
Good morning ping! Say, I don't know how to say this, but that ain't funny and maybe closer to the truth than you think. See ymd o hyd when she gets aboard and aske her about Great Britain's National Healthcare or when any of our Canadian friends come on board ask them about National Healtcare.
But hopefully you're a long way from 75 - hopefully a long way from 65, too!

798 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:46:50am

re: #770 Lincolntf

Yeah, he's the definition of a "mixed-bag". Always entertaining though, even in failure.

It seemed like for awhile here that he was going to "grow up", but that ultimately didn't happen. All that talent gone to waste. Sad, really.

Here's a video of a Dale Hansen Unplugged commentary that ran on WFAA here last week, after T.O. was cut (I hope it plays, because it was good).

799 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:47:10am

re: #790 rightside

What's wrong with Buffalo?

Too much snow.

800 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:47:12am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A coolish, cloudy day in the valley with temps just above freezing for the remainder of the day.

C'mon Spring! :D

{realwest} Morning, shug *smoochie-smooch* How are you today?

801 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:48:32am

re: #758 albusteve
Morning - excellent article you linked to there, thanks!

802 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:48:32am

re: #797 realwest
Mornin' my friend. Hit the big 50 in Jan. Anyone who thinks gov't can do better than the private sector in most things is delusional.

803 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:48:38am

re: #768 Chicago Blonde

Ironman GOOD!

I loved Iron Man - a good old-fashioned American ass-kicking, with a Heavy Metal soundtrack!

804 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:49:06am

re: #796 opnion
Totally spot on!

805 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:49:27am

re: #789 albusteve

it's the first pundit I've seen talking like that...I wonder if more will follow so I keep an eye out

"Pundit" is such a weird word, I think.

We need more ...

"Pandit" - (1) One who panders to a group in order to steal from them. (2) One who steals pandas

"Pawndit" - (1) What happened to the Churchill bust removed from the Oval Office. (2) A lame excuse given to police by a Pandit.

"P3wndit" - (1) A parent who explains to their child that Internet victories do not count as school credit.

"Plandit" - (1) A person who is forced to reconcile Obama's purported brilliance and his miserable failures, reaching only one conclusion.

806 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:49:33am

re: #795 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I hadn't heard about the "canned food drive". That's a classic.
The guy is a great receiver, no doubt, but he brings a circus with him wherever he goes.

807 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:50:03am

re: #798 Ward Cleaver

It seemed like for awhile here that he was going to "grow up", but that ultimately didn't happen. All that talent gone to waste. Sad, really.

Here's a video of a Dale Hansen Unplugged commentary that ran on WFAA here last week, after T.O. was cut (I hope it plays, because it was good).

Pop Warner!...heh...thanks, I liked that guy Hansen, never heard of him

808 smokefire  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:50:07am

[Link: www.nhregister.com...]

[Link: www.newhaven20.com...]

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

This was in the Spin off links.
Thought it should be put into comments for this morning.

809 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:50:31am

re: #804 pingjockey

Totally spot on!

Thank's, but I would rather be wrong.

810 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:51:50am

re: #372 Gus 802

I agree with everything you wrote, except for the empahasis on "Communists". The Argentine intelligence service is very anti-Communist. They have among their staff many hold overs from the old Fascist military junta. It is extremely unlikely there would be Communists among them.

As for Chavez, who likes to call himself a "Bolivarian Socialist" is really more of a classic Nationalist Socialist in the mold of Mussolini or Franco. It's just not socially acceptable among the left to use the word "Fascist" anymore. So he calls himself a Socialist. It's not a long walk from Fascism to Communism. They are rival ideologies of the authoritarian Left. Hezbollah is an example of the Islamic version of Fascism, as are their patrons, the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Republic. And of course, there is a thick streak of anti-Jew paranoia running through them all.

811 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:52:06am

re: #805 OldLineTexan

"Pundit" is such a weird word, I think.

We need more ...

"Pandit" - (1) One who panders to a group in order to steal from them. (2) One who steals pandas

"Pawndit" - (1) What happened to the Churchill bust removed from the Oval Office. (2) A lame excuse given to police by a Pandit.

"P3wndit" - (1) A parent who explains to their child that Internet victories do not count as school credit.

"Plandit" - (1) A person who is forced to reconcile Obama's purported brilliance and his miserable failures, reaching only one conclusion.

haha!...excellent!

812 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:52:58am

re: #809 opnion
You and me both! In Joe Haldemans' book "The Forever War" the global gov had different levels of care. If you were level 4.....no medical treatment.

813 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:53:14am

re: #785 albusteve
Uh, I'm not exactly a fan of TO, but

951 catches
14,122 yds
139 TDs
Super Bowl Rings 0


Just to correct the record. He is a marvelously gifted athelete, but check out the above stats against Jerry Rice for example.

814 Piglet-U93  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:53:18am

Victor Davis Hanson speech at Restoration Weekend

815 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:53:48am

re: #806 Lincolntf

I hadn't heard about the "canned food drive". That's a classic.
The guy is a great receiver, no doubt, but he brings a circus with him wherever he goes.

too many easy drops and they all seem to come at the worst time...like 3rd down

816 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:54:55am

re: #813 realwest

Uh, I'm not exactly a fan of TO, but


Just to correct the record. He is a marvelously gifted athelete, but check out the above stats against Jerry Rice for example.

Not to mention the class act that Jerry Rice was, as compared to the jackass that TO is.

817 Throbert McGee  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:55:07am

re: #715 dentate

Good Lord! All these decades, and I thought it was "green" too! I will see MacArthur Park in a totally different light now...

Hmm... I've always thought that it was "sweet cream icing" in the original version made famous by Richard Harris, but "sweet green icing" in the Donna Summer disco cover (which made several minor changes to the lyrics -- e.g., "old men playing checkers" became "old men playing Chinese checkers").

(And for the record, I think that "green icing" is a better lyric!)

818 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:55:11am

Senator somebody defending his earmark for a million buck for cricket eradication in Utah.

819 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:55:51am

re: #787 aussiemagpie
Well ok, maybe not starched but {darls} those sure look like linen! And I don't know who the guy with the mini face mask is, but I hope for his sake he doesn't take a step or two backwards! LOL!

820 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:56:14am

re: #813 realwest

Uh, I'm not exactly a fan of TO, but


Just to correct the record. He is a marvelously gifted athelete, but check out the above stats against Jerry Rice for example.

not correcting the record, adding on to it....indeed nobody compares to Rice

821 Timbre  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:56:19am

re: #805 OldLineTexan

Pendit: For all those laws Obama is going to craft to save us from ourselves.

822 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:56:37am

Good morning lizards. What is new and exciting today? Weather is pretty typical of March today--mid 50's. Trees are starting to show signs of buds--hurry up spring.

823 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:56:57am

re: #818 pingjockey

Another slight against the Brits!

824 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:56:58am

re: #727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away - you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life."

So, do fake boobs go to Heaven?

Heh.
I attended a church for 25 years that preached the doctrine of rapture. I knew a lot of people who wouldn't even consider cremation after death, because they believed that God might have a hard time putting them back together again at the trumpet call. Dead bodies are supposed to be kept as physically intact as possible.

I took a lot of heat from these people, when my dad passed away and I honored his wish to have his remains cremated and distributed at his favorite fishing hole. I even did the job myself. Our elders were horrified.

I took even more heat when my mom passed away and I honored her request to have her remains cremated, split into three different containers, and distributed in three different places on two different continents... which I also did myself. The church elders officially put me on their shitlist, and I'm still there to this day.

Rebelliion against the straightjacket of formal religious thought and observance has been elevated to hobby status in my family, we're all troublemakers :).

825 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:57:37am

re: #821 Timbre

Pendit: For all those laws Obama is going to craft to save us from ourselves.

Pindit...stuff a pin head says

826 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:57:41am

re: #790 rightside
Nothing wrong with Buffalo a'tall. Long as you LOVE SNOW and heat and humidity during the 83 days of spring,summer and fall!
What ae some of Buffalo's good points?

827 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:57:49am

Here kitty-kitty...Dow +225, SPX +25, Compx +50

Quick...gag the Admin!

828 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:57:53am

re: #821 Timbre

Pendit: For all those laws Obama is going to craft to save us from ourselves.

Plundrit : Supporter of "Spendulus"

829 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:59:18am

re: #751 pingjockey

The moronic climate change ads on "24" really tick me off.

They're very stupid. They won't convert anyone, and they are merely infuriating the (probably fairly large) segment of the "24"/Fox audience that knows that the current fashion in global warming/climate change alarms is intellectual garbage. They're giving up valuable ad space for no return, or negative return.

If they keep it up, I'll quit watching. ("24" is entertaining, but predictable and full of clunky dialogue, and I could give it up and never miss it. I'm behind on my reading anyhow.)

Hollywood is full of very ignorant people, some of whom are also deeply stupid, who are insulated from the real world. They have nothing to teach me.

830 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:59:19am

re: #826 realwest

Nothing wrong with Buffalo a'tall. Long as you LOVE SNOW and heat and humidity during the 83 days of spring,summer and fall!
What ae some of Buffalo's good points?

they are playing at least one game this year in Toronto to generate revenue....fans are pissed

831 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:59:26am

re: #818 pingjockey

Senator somebody defending his earmark for a million buck for cricket eradication in Utah.

I guess the only way these fools will get the idea to stop spending in this economy is to vote them out and let them hit the job market. That goes for all of them regardless of party affilliation.

832 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:59:42am

re: #812 pingjockey

You and me both! In Joe Haldemans' book "The Forever War" the global gov had different levels of care. If you were level 4.....no medical treatment.

That's very close, they will triage, but add another level of "No treatment, make comfortable. This sounds like a bad movie, but if they get their way.... Oh does anybody really thing that poliics won't play into decisions & personal decisions? Let's say it"s Michelles mother. I bet that all heroic means will be taken.

833 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:00:55am

re: #800 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous! *smooches* to you! Y'all think you might get some more sneaux before Spring, or is this gonna be more of a greyish but mostly dry winter until Spring has sprung up by you?

834 Timbre  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:01:01am

pondit--For golfers who don't let bad shots ruin their enjoyment of retirement.

835 jorline  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:02:33am

Good morning, Lizards.

The DOW is up and we have a shot at rain starting tomorrow...life is good.

836 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:03:25am

re: #824 Irish Rose

Heh.
I attended a church for 25 years that preached the doctrine of rapture. I knew a lot of people who wouldn't even consider cremation after death, because they believed that God might have a hard time putting them back together again at the trumpet call. Dead bodies are supposed to be kept as physically intact as possible.

I took a lot of heat from these people, when my dad passed away and I honored his wish to have his remains cremated and distributed at his favorite fishing hole. I even did the job myself. Our elders were horrified.

I took even more heat when my mom passed away and I honored her request to have her remains cremated, split into three different containers, and distributed in three different places on two different continents... which I also did myself. The church elders officially put me on their shitlist, and I'm still there to this day.

Rebelliion against the straightjacket of formal religious thought and observance has been elevated to hobby status in my family, we're all troublemakers :).

Can I laugh? Growing up Baptist that sounds very familiar and funny as (pardon the expression) hell.

My favorite story of religion run amok; My dad was the county Chaplin for the Fire Dept. and Sheriff, he was also a volunteer firefighter. One night their was a SIDS death the family call 911 and their pastor. Fire Dept got their first and determined nothing could be done. The families pastor arrived, looked the the mother holding the dead infant and said, "what sin have you committed to cause this." He's lucky the only thing the firefighters did was throw his ass out the door. They called my dad who spent hours with the distraught mother. It was literally 8 hours before she would surrender her baby to my dad.

837 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:03:54am

the ACLU shakedown machine at work...ABQ is full of murals

[Link: www.tbnweekly.com...]

838 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:05:08am

re: #818 pingjockey

Senator somebody defending his earmark for a million buck for cricket eradication in Utah.

How many crickets do they have? Maybe they just need a few more cats. Mine love a cricket snack.

839 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:06:11am

re: #829 lurking faith

24 has gotten silly. They have backed off of any insinuation that there are some terrorists among Muslims.
No, they want to deal with Russian Nationalists & African Revolutionaries taking over the White House.
Next year the threat might be from Mars.

840 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:06:14am

re: #836 JCM

That's terrible. This pastor obviously never read the Gospel, then, where the Pharisees ask Jesus the same question about the man born blind, "whose sin was responsible for this, his or his fathers?"

841 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:06:35am

re: #794 Erik The Red

You just like the look of AB's ass aussie.////

Goodness, was it that obvious? :-)

Yes, my one remaining hormone did come alive when I saw that pic!

842 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:07:16am

Obots...just listen to this woman...good lord

[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

843 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:07:18am

It's Purim, and I'm hoping the modern Haman-would-be Ahamanejad, gets blown up by his own nuclear gallows that he's creating to blow up Jews.

844 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:08:16am

I'm back. My inter tube connection is FUBAR. Keep getting the window of death. IE has encountered a problem and needs to close. Have no idea what's up. Reload, refresh, etc....I do know Verizon has been screwing around with phone lines hereabouts.

845 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:08:28am

re: #824 Irish Rose

It's funny isn't it? If G-d can manage the whole Rapture thing, you would have to be confident he wouldn't trip up over the details like scattered ashes, broken bodies on a battlefield or scattered toe nail clippings on your bathroom floor. If G-d is going to do the Rapture, then He's got all that covered.

And if G-d is not doing the Rapture, then whatever else He has planned, He's got that covered too.

846 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:09:05am

re: #844 pingjockey

I'm back. My inter tube connection is FUBAR. Keep getting the window of death. IE has encountered a problem and needs to close. Have no idea what's up. Reload, refresh, etc....I do know Verizon has been screwing around with phone lines hereabouts.



FIRE FOX

847 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:09:44am

re: #840 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's terrible. This pastor obviously never read the Gospel, then, where the Pharisees ask Jesus the same question about the man born blind, "whose sin was responsible for this, his or his fathers?"

Unfortunately, it's far too common in fundamentalist groups that kind of unforgiving reading of scripture. The flip side of it is the "prosperity gospel" if you are "right" with God everything will be wonderful, you'll be rich and happy.

848 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:09:50am

re: #836 JCM


Asshattery and religious fundamentalism all too frequently go hand in hand. They should have broken the sumnabitches' nose before they threw him out.

849 kansas  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:09:51am

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]re:

#835

jorline

Good morning, Lizards.

The DOW is up and we have a shot at rain starting tomorrow...life is good.

Not to worry. Obama and Geithner will be up and about soon to drive that down.

850 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:10:04am

re: #846 Erik The Red
That is probably on the agenda.

851 smokefire  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:10:05am

re: #808 smokefire

[Link: www.nhregister.com...]

[Link: www.newhaven20.com...]

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

This was in the Spin off links.
Thought it should be put into comments for this morning.

I cannot urge Lizards enough to read these stories, and to donate to the NHFD-20

852 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:10:55am

Later Lizards. Going home. (Maybe via the pub). BBL

853 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:11:05am

re: #845 Kenneth

It's funny isn't it? If G-d can manage the whole Rapture thing, you would have to be confident he wouldn't trip up over the details like scattered ashes, broken bodies on a battlefield or scattered toe nail clippings on your bathroom floor. If G-d is going to do the Rapture, then He's got all that covered.

And if G-d is not doing the Rapture, then whatever else He has planned, He's got that covered too.

You mean we get our nail clippings back? EWWWWWWWWWWW!

854 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:11:14am

re: #847 JCM
If it had been over here on the dry side, I could see dad and some of his buddies tossing the 'Pastor" out the door head first!

855 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:11:14am

re: #836 JCM

That's horrible! That pastor was a moral sadist.

856 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:11:37am

DId anyone else hear/read what The One's intelligence pick Freeman's son posted in an online article?

Referring to a "small cabal" out to get his dad. That he would punch anyone from this "small cabal" in the face? And he calls the members of this "small cabal," "Schmucks?"

Using the term "Small Cabal" + Use of "Schmucks"= one pissed off Jew hater.

I'm sure I could take him.

857 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:11:40am

re: #837 albusteve

the ACLU shakedown machine at work...ABQ is full of murals

[Link: www.tbnweekly.com...]

the ACLU are the good guys on this one...

858 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:11:52am

re: #818 pingjockey

Senator somebody defending his earmark for a million buck for cricket eradication in Utah.

I didn't know cricket was played over there! And now it's to be eradicated?

Tell those poor cricket players they're welcome as refugees here :-)

859 kansas  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:12:10am

re: #851 smokefire

I cannot urge Lizards enough to read these stories, and to donate to the NHFD-20

It's really not fair to have to be qualified to get a job.//

860 JohnAdams  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:12:37am

re: #842 albusteve

Obots...just listen to this woman...good lord

[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Some limousine lib will be so moved they will buy the car for her. Watch.

861 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:13:14am

re: #848 Irish Rose

Asshattery and religious fundamentalism all too frequently go hand in hand. They should have broken the sumnabitches' nose before they threw him out.

It was pretty close... the family had my dad do the babies funeral, they dropped out of the church. A dozen years later they came to my mom's funeral.

862 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:13:38am

re: #824 Irish Rose

I knew a lot of people who wouldn't even consider cremation after death, because they believed that God might have a hard time putting them back together again at the trumpet call

So they believed in a God who was just sorta kinda almost omnipotent?

863 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:13:53am

re: #819 realwest

Well ok, maybe not starched but {darls} those sure look like linen! And I don't know who the guy with the mini face mask is, but I hope for his sake he doesn't take a step or two backwards! LOL!

LOL! Your cricket education is not progressing very well :-)

864 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:14:06am

re: #845 Kenneth

It's funny isn't it? If G-d can manage the whole Rapture thing, you would have to be confident he wouldn't trip up over the details like scattered ashes, broken bodies on a battlefield or scattered toe nail clippings on your bathroom floor. If G-d is going to do the Rapture, then He's got all that covered.

... you'd think :).

865 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:14:10am

re: #836 JCM

If there is a rapture, I rather doubt that particular pastor will be caught up in it.

Cruel jerk. And he doesn't understand the Bible, either.

866 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:14:21am

re: #862 Occasional Reader

So they believed in a God who was just sorta kinda almost omnipotent?

God can make a rock too big for him to move!
/

867 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:14:21am

re: #840 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How was Watchmen?

868 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:15:07am

re: #866 JCM

God can make a rock too big for him to move!
/

Can God make a microwaved burrito so hot, even He can't eat it?

869 Throbert McGee  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:15:17am

re: #818 pingjockey

Senator somebody defending his earmark for a million buck for cricket eradication in Utah.

That's pretty ironic if you know a bit about Mormon history!

870 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:15:38am

re: #830 albusteve
Well I freely confess to only following the NFC East because that's where my beloved NY Giants play, but why are they playing in Toronto to genreate revenue and their fans are "pissed"? Seems to me that if they had a great fan base they wouldn't have to go to Toronto to make some money - or is this just a move to help them pay T.O. this year?!?

871 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:16:09am

re: #859 kansas

It's really not fair to have to be qualified to get a job.//

Don't tell that to Robert Reich. Wouldn't want all those qualified white guys building bridges when illegals and unqualified minorities need work too.

872 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:16:13am

re: #856 Ben Hur

Freeman is just the top of the iceberg. He was picked by another "intelligence" director, and it shows a thorough anti-Israel bias in the 0bama administration. That comes as no surprise to lizards, but it will come as a surprise to those Jews who worship the golden calf of liberalism first, and G-d second, if at all.
I just hope people wake up and change things before we're taken to camps "for protection" from mobs of anti-Semites.

873 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:16:32am

re: #867 Occasional Reader

How was Watchmen?

Very good. Gotta go meet a client, BBL & will give more detailed review.

874 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:17:00am

re: #835 jorline
Good morning jorline! Glad to hear you're well and that y'all may be getting some much needed rain!

875 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:17:00am

re: #856 Ben Hur

DId anyone else hear/read what The One's intelligence pick Freeman's son posted in an online article?

Referring to a "small cabal" out to get his dad. That he would punch anyone from this "small cabal" in the face? And he calls the members of this "small cabal," "Schmucks?"

Using the term "Small Cabal" + Use of "Schmucks"= one pissed off Jew hater.

I'm sure I could take him.

Did the kid post this from a Wi-Fi equippped beer hall somewhere, while wearing his favorite brown shirt?

876 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:17:59am

re: #859 kansas

It's really not fair to have to be qualified to get a job.//

Especially when it is something unimportant, like putting out fires at liberal's houses.
/SARC!

877 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:18:00am

re: #875 Occasional Reader

Did the kid post this from a Wi-Fi equippped beer hall somewhere, while wearing his favorite brown shirt?

Close, the Obama Whitehouse.

878 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #869 Throbert McGee

That's pretty ironic if you know a bit about Mormon history!

I'll agree with them on one thing: They've been gulled.

879 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #847 JCM

The flip side of it is the "prosperity gospel" if you are "right" with God everything will be wonderful, you'll be rich and happy.

If this is true, then why am I still driving around in a ten year old car with a bashed in left rear panel?

Clearly, I have sinned.

880 JohnAdams  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:18:38am

See the pres of Czech is admonishing the science of Global Warming for the EU. Maybe the light is beginning to go on. I know it's been posted ad nauseum here in the past, but it is always worth revisiting Michael Crichton's speech Alien's Cause Global Warming. Every Gang Green Moonbat should be forced to confront the simple truths exposed here.

881 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:18:55am

re: #839 opnion

"24" always was silly. However, I agree with you that it was more satisfying when they actually drew their terrorists from the pool of real-world terrorists currently threatening the USA.

882 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:19:06am

re: #875 Occasional Reader

Did the kid post this from a Wi-Fi equippped beer hall somewhere, while wearing his favorite brown shirt?

Probably has a dog-eared copy of Mein Kampf, full of highlighting and notes on how true it is.

883 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:19:19am

re: #826 realwest

In the 20 something years I lived there, there wasn't very much humidity at all. Certainly not as much as say North Kackalackee, or even Virginia. It's location next to Lake Erie accounts for much of that snow.

Some good points: Known as the city of good neighbors. During the blizzard of '77, people went door to door to check on their neighbors well being.

Buffalo is mainly a blue-collar, hard working town. People do what it takes to earn a living, and live their lives doing the right thing.

Despite having 4 straight superbowl losses (wide-right was particularly devastating), and robbed of a Stanley Cup shot (NO GOAL!), the people there still love their sports teams.

Western New York has so much outdoor activity year round, and has some of the most beautiful land during the fall, perfect for picnics and hiking in the numerous parks and facilities.

And to add to that, all the above is possible, with one of the most oppressive, confiscatory taxation schemes in the country. The democrats in control there for decades have stifled growth with it. They're mismanagement of finances has been so geithner-esque, they had to be taken over by a financial control board years back, because they needed "adult supervision"

So, you see, there are some good things about Buffalo, in spite of the fact the democrats have been in control.

884 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:19:19am

Hillary Compares Egypt's Dismal Human Rights Record to US

885 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:19:31am

Did anybody else find Warren Buffet's comments yesterday just a little contradictory? First he said that people have to understand the financial situation so that they are not scared.
Then he said that 'The Economy is going off of the cliff."

886 jorline  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:20:07am

re: #874 realwest

Good morning jorline! Glad to hear you're well and that y'all may be getting some much needed rain!

We've had a 1/2 inch of rain in the last six months...the last was two tenths in December. Good to see you this morning, RW.

887 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:20:23am

re: #871 soxfan4life

Don't tell that to Robert Reich. Wouldn't want all those qualified white guys building bridges when illegals and unqualified minorities need work too.

Ayn Rand could have written this.

888 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:20:49am

re: #844 pingjockey
Hey ping! Well it could be Verizon, could be you should try a different browser - could be you've got some sort of infection. Have you done the usual - clear out cookies, Temp internet files and the like? Refreshed, restarted?
And if y'all are getting the BLUE SCREEN Window of Death, I'd shut her down completely and get cracking on finding out what's wrong ASAP.

LOL! realwest giving tech advice, LOL!

889 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:20:53am

re: #880 JohnAdams

Apparently yesterday when the 0ne allowed federally-funded stem cell research, he said he was taking the politics out of science.
So I guess he will be properly funding those climate researchers who disagree with "global warming".
I'm still waiting.

890 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:21:11am

Another OZ wildlife story.....

Croc V Shark battle in a Northern Territory river

Some barramundi fishermen were nearby and took some pics

Here's a hint which one won

"All we could hear was the crunching sound."

891 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:21:12am

re: #885 opnion

Did anybody else find Warren Buffet's comments yesterday just a little contradictory? First he said that people have to understand the financial situation so that they are not scared.
Then he said that 'The Economy is going off of the cliff."

He did give us a little ray of sunshine, he thinks things will be good again in about 5 years.

892 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:21:13am

re: #884 Ben Hur

Hillary Compares Egypt's Dismal Human Rights Record to US

Another day, another "overcharge reset button".

893 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:21:28am

re: #865 lurking faith

If there is a rapture, I rather doubt that particular pastor will be caught up in it.

Cruel jerk. And he doesn't understand the Bible, either.

A lot of Christians are going to be surprised.
The parable of the ten virgins. They all are believers signified by being vrigins and waiting for the bridegroom, but only 5 are ready.
In Matt. 24, two are working in the field, working in the field signifies but are doing God's work but only one is taken. Same with the two in the mill, working with the flour, wheat and flour signify Christ, but only one is taken.

The rapture is far more complicated than most of Christianity understands. Unfortunately, most use the simple route of your taken or go to hell as part of fire insurance gospel to scare people into believing. Paul writes extensively on the pursuit and spiritual growth far too many miss that.

894 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:21:33am

Morning Everyone:

Mr DT. and I will be in Manhattan today accompanying his friend, Neill Strauss, on a PR buzz for his new book: Emergency: This Book Can Save Your Life

First Neill will be on the Judith Regan radio show. Neill has invited Mr DT to be on with him as well. Then it's off to do a taping for the Glenn Beck Show. Followed by a a book signing at Barnes and Noble - I think at the Times Square location.

Two of the chapters of the book feature MR DT and his Urban Escape and Evasion class. I'll let you know how it goes.

895 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:22:10am

re: #887 opnion

Ayn Rand could have written this.

I haven't read her writings, but I think I have to.

896 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:22:14am

re: #875 Occasional Reader

Did the kid post this from a Wi-Fi equippped beer hall somewhere, while wearing his favorite brown shirt?


His kid is actually an adult.

I happen to catch a report on it on the Grapevine on Fox.

I'm sure it's out there on line somewhere.

897 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:22:19am

re: #870 realwest

Well I freely confess to only following the NFC East because that's where my beloved NY Giants play, but why are they playing in Toronto to genreate revenue and their fans are "pissed"? Seems to me that if they had a great fan base they wouldn't have to go to Toronto to make some money - or is this just a move to help them pay T.O. this year?!?


they don't make enough money...small market/cheap tickets...the Bill's themselves could wind up in Toronto...there has been chatter for a few years

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

898 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:22:25am

re: #891 soxfan4life

He did give us a little ray of sunshine, he thinks things will be good again in about 5 years.

Sure. 0bama will be voted out in 4.

899 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:22:55am

re: #892 Occasional Reader

Another day, another "overcharge reset button".

I'm waiting for her to launch a new relationship with Iran and North Korea.

900 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:23:21am

re: #879 Irish Rose

If this is true, then why am I still driving around in a ten year old car with a bashed in left rear panel?

Clearly, I have sinned.

LOL, 13 year pickup with a bashed in side panel here.

Church of Bashed up Car Sinners!

901 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:23:23am

MIT Scientists Ask: Is Global Warming Part of a Natural Cycle?

My browser won't open the source link; I'd be interested in what that says if anyone else can get it to open.

902 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:23:45am

re: #856 Ben Hur
Good morning Ben! Uh, what's Anti-Semitic about the word ""Schmuck"? I've used it for years and learned it from my Jewish friends and ex wives!

903 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:23:49am

re: #898 Kosh's Shadow

Sure. 0bama will be voted out in 4.

I guess Superman will be our next President, if he can fix the damage Obama does over the next 4 years in only 1 year.

904 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:23:51am

re: #877 soxfan4life

Close the Obama Whitehouse.


Better without the comma.

905 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:24:15am

re: #894 DistantThunder

Congrats!

BTW, based in part on your recommendation, I started Deep Survival.

I do have to say, the author needs a better copy editor; I already caught a couple of pretty glaring typos.

906 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:24:36am

re: #884 Ben Hur

Hillary Compares Egypt's Dismal Human Rights Record to US

It really is amateur hour with this administration. When do the adults show up?

907 JohnAdams  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:24:54am

re: #889 Kosh's Shadow

Apparently yesterday when the 0ne allowed federally-funded stem cell research, he said he was taking the politics out of science.
So I guess he will be properly funding those climate researchers who disagree with "global warming".
I'm still waiting.

After the wrong move he doubles down by insulting your intelligence.

908 kansas  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:25:20am

re: #898 Kosh's Shadow

Sure. 0bama will be voted out in 4.

Racist./

909 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:25:28am

re: #902 realwest

Good morning Ben! Uh, what's Anti-Semitic about the word ""Schmuck"? I've used it for years and learned it from my Jewish friends and ex wives!

You have multiple Jewish ex-wives?!

910 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:25:38am

re: #856 Ben Hur

I saw that. Nothing says "gravitas" like having your nomination to a senior intelligence job supported by a ranting blog post from your son.

Seriously, Chas Freeman is the worst pick in Obama's cabinet so far. And he's got lots of competition.

911 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:26:27am

re: #902 realwest

Good morning Ben! Uh, what's Anti-Semitic about the word ""Schmuck"? I've used it for years and learned it from my Jewish friends and ex wives!

He kept referring to a "small cabal" out to get his father.

He specifically calls them shmucks.

Trust me. He knew what he was saying.

912 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:26:37am

re: #868 Occasional Reader
Yes He can, but He can't make a Burrito so hot that Chuck Norris can't eat it!

913 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:26:43am

re: #888 realwest
Nah, not the "Blue screen of death" it's the little window saying bill gates demon machine has a problem and needs to close. I have done all the stuff you enumerated. When I get home from work, I'll do the major troubleshooting gig. Right now it's just frakkin' annoying.

914 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:27:00am

re: #889 Kosh's Shadow

he said he was taking the politics out of science

And I love how it's being reported as fact by our oh-so-neutral MSM that "Obama will seperate politics from science". Because, you know, he said so.

915 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:27:16am

re: #890 aussiemagpie

Another OZ wildlife story.....

Croc V Shark battle in a Northern Territory river

Some barramundi fishermen were nearby and took some pics

Here's a hint which one won

Woo. How big do those crocs get?

916 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:28:21am

re: #910 Kenneth

I saw that. Nothing says "gravitas" like having your nomination to a senior intelligence job supported by a ranting blog post from your son.

Seriously, Chas Freeman is the worst pick in Obama's cabinet so far. And he's got lots of competition.

I think there is a 500 place tie for that position.

917 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:28:29am

re: #915 VioletTiger
IIRC, salt water crocs can get 20 feet long and weigh a ton.

918 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:28:33am

re: #910 Kenneth

I saw that. Nothing says "gravitas" like having your nomination to a senior intelligence job supported by a ranting blog post from your son.

Seriously, Chas Freeman is the worst pick in Obama's cabinet so far. And he's got lots of competition.

I agree, but he's only a symptom of an administration that is rotted through.
We focus on Freeman's anti-Israel attitude, but don't forget he thinks China didn't go far enough in dealing with the Tienanmen Square protests.

919 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:28:46am

re: #847 JCM

Unfortunately, it's far too common in fundamentalist groups that kind of unforgiving reading of scripture. The flip side of it is the "prosperity gospel" if you are "right" with God everything will be wonderful, you'll be rich and happy.

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
- Matthew 19:24

920 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:28:59am

re: #901 UFO TOFU

Here you are-
A team of MIT scientists recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels -the first increase in ten years. What baffles the team is that this data contradicts theories stating humans are the primary source of increase in greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere. Since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, however, it is probable that this may be part of a natural cycle - and not the direct result of man's contributions.

921 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:29:34am

re: #917 pingjockey

IIRC, salt water crocs can get 20 feet long and weigh a ton.

And yet, they're easy pickings for the tree kangaroos.

Australia is one tought place.

922 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:29:38am

re: #909 Occasional Reader

You have multiple Jewish ex-wives?!

I've had four... ex-wife's that is!

923 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:29:45am

re: #895 soxfan4life

I haven't read her writings, but I think I have to.

Most definately. Atlas Shrugged especially.

924 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:29:49am

"tought"... sigh.

925 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:09am

Good morning honcos.
via insta:
A lone man fighting the corruptocrats.

Arizona congressman Jeff Flake, who is fed up with the process, recently tried to get the House ethics committee to investigate links between congressional earmarks and campaign contributions. Not surprisingly, his resolution died – despite the support of nearly all House Republicans, including those who represent North Texas districts, and 17 Democrats, including Rep. Lloyd Doggett of Austin, the sole Texas Democrat in Flake’s corner. . . .

Flake should continue his crusade to expose Congress’ charade, which encourages waste and tolerates political corruption. The $410 billion omnibus spending bill contains at least $8 billion in earmarks, including 13 pet projects for clients of PMA Group, a lobbying firm under investigation for suspicious campaign donations to members of Congress. PMA had close ties to Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., and other influential lawmakers who received substantial contributions from PMA’s employees and clients.

926 justabill  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:09am

re: #28 Killgore Trout

....that's why I'm wary of people with "Jesus is my copilot" stickers.

Perhaps Jesus will take over driving when the driver is raptured. But I think Jesus is a Christian, so he might be raptured too. Which would defeat the purpose of having him as copilot. This theology stuff is so confusing...

927 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:31am

re: #901 UFO TOFU

MIT Scientists Ask: Is Global Warming Part of a Natural Cycle?

My browser won't open the source link; I'd be interested in what that says if anyone else can get it to open.

A team of MIT scientists recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels -the first increase in ten years. What baffles the team is that this data contradicts theories stating humans are the primary source of increase in greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere. Since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, however, it is probable that this may be part of a natural cycle - and not the direct result of man's contributions.

MIT's Matthew Rigby and Ronald Prinn, the TEPCO Professor of Atmospheric Chemistry in MIT's Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Science, state that this imbalance has resulted in several million metric tons of additional methane in the atmosphere. Methane is produced by wetlands, rice paddies, cattle, and the gas and coal industries, and is destroyed by reaction with the hydroxyl free radical (OH), often referred to as the atmosphere's "cleanser."

Methane accounts for roughly one-fifth of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, though its effect is 25x greater than that of carbon dioxide. Its impact on global warming comes from the reflection of the sun's light back to the Earth. Methane is broken down in the atmosphere by the free radical hydroxyl (OH), a naturally occuring process. This atmospheric cleanser has been shown to adjust itself up and down periodically, and is believed to account for the lack of increases in methane levels in Earth's atmosphere over the past ten years despite notable simultaneous increases by man.

Prinn has said, "The next step will be to study [these changes] using a very high-resolution atmospheric circulation model and additional measurements from other networks. The key thing is to better determine the relative roles of increased methane emission versus [an increase] in the rate of removal. Apparently we have a mix of the two, but we want to know how much of each [is responsible for the overall increase]."

The primary concern now is that while the collected data in 2007 reflects a simultaneous world-wide increase in emissions, how relevant are any of the data findings at this late date?

One thing does seem very clear, however; science is only beginning to get a focus on the big picture of global warming. Findings like these tell us it's too early to know for sure if man's impact is affecting things at "alarming rates." We may simply be going through another natural cycle of warmer and colder times - one that's been observed through a scientific analysis of the Earth to be naturally occurring for hundreds of thousands of years.

Posted by Casey Kazan.

Source Link: [Link: web.mit.edu...]

928 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:36am

re: #900 JCM

LOL, 13 year pickup with a bashed in side panel here.

Church of Bashed up Car Sinners!

This is what I get for playing the accordion and drinking hard lemonade.
No @$#@ Corvette for me.

929 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:43am

re: #885 opnion Morning opnion - Methinks Warren Buffet has been taken to the cleaners by this economic slump - he was VERY heavily invested in Wind and another form of alternative energy (bio-diesel, maybe?) and has taken a bath - why I hear he's close to his last $500 million or so!
Seriously, I think Buffet has in fact lost a ton of money in this econmic free fall we're in and I don't think he's taking much solace from Obama's proposed budget, either.

930 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #894 DistantThunder

Morning Everyone:

Mr DT. and I will be in Manhattan today accompanying his friend, Neill Strauss, on a PR buzz for his new book: Emergency: This Book Can Save Your Life

First Neill will be on the Judith Regan radio show. Neill has invited Mr DT to be on with him as well. Then it's off to do a taping for the Glenn Beck Show. Followed by a a book signing at Barnes and Noble - I think at the Times Square location.

UPDATE: MR DT just got a call from Strauss that the Glenn Beck show rescheduled. They said they were changing the emphasis for today's show to something financial, but they would have him back on soon.

Two of the chapters of the book feature MR DT and his Urban Escape and Evasion class. I'll let you know how it goes.

931 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:31:52am

re: #918 Kosh's Shadow

Some of his early picks weren't too bad. Gen. James Jones as his National Security Advisor, Sec Def Gates... and um... umm

Ok, the good part of the list is rather short.

932 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:32:47am

re: #10 kimmie7

Buh-bye, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

933 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:33:09am

re: #886 jorline
1/2 inch of rain in six months? Good Lord - I sure hope y'all get several inches - spaced out over a few days this week and next week my friend. Hope you're doing well personally, too!

934 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:33:15am

Later folks!

935 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #929 realwest

Morning opnion - Methinks Warren Buffet has been taken to the cleaners by this economic slump - he was VERY heavily invested in Wind and another form of alternative energy (bio-diesel, maybe?) and has taken a bath - why I hear he's close to his last $500 million or so!
Seriously, I think Buffet has in fact lost a ton of money in this econmic free fall we're in and I don't think he's taking much solace from Obama's proposed budget, either.

Wonder if Warren has experienced buyer's remorse after being a supporter of the One.

936 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:33:21am

re: #833 realwest

Hey there gorgeous! *smooches* to you! Y'all think you might get some more sneaux before Spring, or is this gonna be more of a greyish but mostly dry winter until Spring has sprung up by you?

I'm praying for no more sneaux and we just might get lucky with a lot of rain to wash away the remnants.

I'm going to add a couple of new plants to my garden when it's warm enough - when they bloom (crosses dainty pinkies) I'll send you some pics and perhaps a new video of Lil Miss scampering about in Her Kingdom. :D

937 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:33:49am

re: #922 walter l. newton

I've had four... ex-wife's that is!

I think realwest has got you handily beat. He has more than one specifically Jewish ex-wives. Let's be conservative and say two. Jews constitute about 1.5% of the US population. Therefore, we can mathematically determine that realwest has at least a total of 133 ex-wives! Holy Alimony, Batman!

938 aggieann  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:33:54am

re: #900 JCM

LOL, 13 year pickup with a bashed in side panel here.

Church of Bashed up Car Sinners!

. . . with "God is my Co-Pilot" bumperstickers, no doubt!

939 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:34:07am

re: #899 Kosh's Shadow

I'm waiting for Iran and North Korea to launch a new relationship with her.

FIFY.

940 albusteve  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:34:22am

re: #933 realwest

1/2 inch of rain in six months? Good Lord - I sure hope y'all get several inches - spaced out over a few days this week and next week my friend. Hope you're doing well personally, too!

we've had less than that...dry as a bone here...

941 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:34:53am

Anyone think that we will actually take a shot at the N.Korean "satellite" launch? My guess would be no, but I don't pretend to know the inner workings of our military/strategic decision-making bodies.

NoKo nuttiness

942 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:35:05am

re: #920 Mike in Georgia

The methane could be from thawing permafrost in the arctic regions and an increase in the rate of decay of plant material in temperate & tropical regions. Both of those events would be driven by an increase in temperature. I'm sorry, but I don't see how AGW is contradicted by this data.

943 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:35:09am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Corzine's going to be giving his budget address today, and there are a few threshold questions that ought to be kept in mind when he starts talking about budget cuts, taxes, and all the other smoke and mirrors. It's pretty much common sense, but don't expect the media to do the heavy lifting. They'll be too busy parroting the line given the governors.

Meanwhile, over in NYS, Gov. Paterson has yet another scandal brewing. He recently fired his interim chief of staff, but rehired him a day later to a different job - doling out federal stimulus monies - all for $170k. There's a hiring freeze in the state, and this was apparently done to soothe hurt feelings. Nice to be fiscally responsible in NYS. Not.

944 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:35:14am

re: #919 lurking faith

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
- Matthew 19:24

Matt. 5:3, 3"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
In Greek "poor" is more properly rendered destitute, the beginning point of seeking God is to have nothing in mind spiritually, no opinions, no thoughts of our own, just seeking.

When we approach scripture with preconceived ideas, we bend them to our own interpretations.

945 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:36:00am

re: #891 soxfan4life

He did give us a little ray of sunshine, he thinks things will be good again in about 5 years.


Whew! I feel better.

946 Peacekeeper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:36:18am

Interestingly, there is aDarwin debate (sort of) going on amongst Democrats. I never would have guessed.

So left-wing bloggers feel somewhat betrayed that Campolo has challenged orthodox Darwinism in a recent column published in Britain, which also appeared last year in the Philadelphia Inquirer. "Darwin's writings, when actually read, express the prevalent racism of the nineteenth century, and endorse an extreme laissez faire political ideology that legitimates the neglect of the suffering poor by the ruling elite," Campolo opined.

947 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:36:44am

re: #890 aussiemagpie
Oh sure, but ya notice that the nearly 14 foot croc picked on a bitty shark - barely 3.5 feet long!
He wouldn't want to tangle with a decent sized Mako shark! Just not quick enough!

948 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:36:55am

I do not believe in The Rapture, but many Christians do, not just a fringe group. I also don't believe in a Young Earth but at least that is a real threat to our science classes. This just strikes me as piling on for amusement, no? I don't want to think that of Charles, but...

949 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:38:08am

re: #925 FrogMarch

Good morning honcos.
via insta:
A lone man fighting the corruptocrats.

He deserves one of these Kleptocracy T-Shirts

950 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:38:32am

re: #932 Honorary Yooper

Buh-bye, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

3 whole posts.......

951 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:38:57am

re: #920 Mike in Georgia

Thanks. This what I couldn't seem to open before.
Levels of the greenhouse gas methane begin to increase again

952 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:38:57am

re: #935 soxfan4life

Wonder if Warren has experienced buyer's remorse after being a supporter of the One.

Sounds like it. If he likes his money, I'm sure he is not happy about it evaporating.

953 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:39:07am

re: #906 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - this is the Democratic Party we're talking about - what "adults"?!?

954 WV.Hillbilly  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:39:38am

re: #76 Fenway_Nation

Wonder if any of the auto-insurance companies provide an 'in-case-of-rapture' clause in any of their policies.

Probably not covered.
Act of god and all that stuff.

955 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:39:57am

re: #951 UFO TOFU

Thanks. This what I couldn't seem to open before.
Levels of the greenhouse gas methane begin to increase again

Perhaps all of our unicorn farts are adding up...
//

956 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:40:01am

re: #946 Peacekeeper

..."Darwin's writings, when actually read, express the prevalent racism of the nineteenth century, and endorse an extreme laissez faire political ideology that legitimates the neglect of the suffering poor by the ruling elite,"...

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking when I read about the Galapagos finches.

957 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:40:36am

re: #942 Kenneth

I just posted what was in the article for UFO. I wasn't commenting
on the subject.

958 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:40:37am

re: #944 JCM

Matt. 5:3, 3"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
In Greek "poor" is more properly rendered destitute

I always thought it referred to people who had run out of booze.

959 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:40:52am

re: #909 Occasional Reader
Uh, multiple sounds so, so...... careless of me! I actually have two ex wives, both of whom are Jewish (first one Jewish really by accident of birth, second far more observant).

960 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #952 VioletTiger

Sounds like it. If he likes his money, I'm sure he is not happy about it evaporating.

Was John McCain that bad, to cause Buffet to be on Team Obama, or did Warren sell his soul to the One.

961 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:41:30am

re: #941 Lincolntf

The Japanese have said they will shoot it down if it passes over Japan. I would like to imagine Obama is just being shrewd by not paying too much attention to the NoKo temper tantrums but if the NoKo do launch order has been given to the US military to knock it down.

On the otherhand, my confidence level in the Obama admin is low & dropping fast, so...

962 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:41:41am

re: #911 Ben Hur
OK Ben, I trust ya!

963 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:42:23am

re: #959 realwest

first one Jewish really by accident of birth

"I'm not so much a 'Jew', as Jew-ish."

-Adam Sandler (I think?)

964 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:42:46am

re: #941 Lincolntf

Anyone think that we will actually take a shot at the N.Korean "satellite" launch? My guess would be no, but I don't pretend to know the inner workings of our military/strategic decision-making bodies.

NoKo nuttiness

We probably won't shoot at it as long as it keeps going up or heads toward open ocean, but we will track it.

But if it blows up on its own, Kim Jong Il might be so ronery he wants to be visited by some Marines, and so he starts something.
Unfortunately, 0bama will probably send Hillary, thereby making matters worse. I don't know if Kim is that ronery.

965 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:42:58am

re: #961 Kenneth

The Japanese have said they will shoot it down if it passes over Japan.

Do they have that capability?

966 Throbert McGee  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:43:52am

re: #878 Occasional Reader

I'll agree with them on one thing: They've been gulled.

One thing I didn't know about the supposed "Miracle of the Gulls" in 1948: according to the wiki article, surviving journals written by LDS settlers that very same year, or shortly thereafter, credit mundane factors like weather for helping to kill off the swarms of crop-eating "crickets" (which are actually a species of flightless katydid). Human-organized pest control measures may have played a role, too -- the so-called "Mormon crickets" swarm by crawling, rather than flying, and thus you can slow their advance by getting a whole bunch of friends together for a cricket-stompin' party.

But it's the seagulls that passed into the local folklore.

967 rightside  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:44:05am

re: #965 Occasional Reader


Yes.

968 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:44:10am

re: #913 pingjockey
Ah crap, I used to get that on my old XP system - turned out to be a bad motherboard - that's how I wound up with this great new machine (and I still don't understand Windows users who bash VISTA - once you get used to it (and disable all the bullshit that MS has built in to ask you if you're really, really,
REALLY sure you want to close this window) it's great!

969 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:44:27am

re: #958 Occasional Reader

Matt. 5:3, 3"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
In Greek "poor" is more properly rendered destitute

I always thought it referred to people who had run out of booze.

That too, Drink!
It's the TMDT!

970 Afrocity  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:44:51am

Just popping in to say Good Morning.

971 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:45:15am

re: #968 realwest

Ah crap, I used to get that on my old XP system - turned out to be a bad motherboard - that's how I wound up with this great new machine (and I still don't understand Windows users who bash VISTA - once you get used to it (and disable all the bullshit that MS has built in to ask you if you're really, really,
REALLY sure you want to close this window) it's great!

Are you sure you want to post that? Yes? No? Cancel?

972 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:45:30am

re: #953 realwest

Good morning VioletTiger - this is the Democratic Party we're talking about - what "adults"?!?

Oops, you're right. I guess we have 3.8 year left of kiddie rule.

973 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:45:33am

re: #941 Lincolntf

Anyone think that we will actually take a shot at the N.Korean "satellite" launch? My guess would be no, but I don't pretend to know the inner workings of our military/strategic decision-making bodies.

NoKo nuttiness

The launch could become sticky depending upon the Japanese. There have been noted internal discussions on the problem and they are not at all happy about threats to civilian craft.

Iran presents a similar problem off and around the Horn & Gulf of Aden.

Axis-dents do happen.

974 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:45:37am

re: #970 Afrocity

Just popping in to say Good Morning.

Morning!

How do you take your Coffee?

975 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:45:53am

re: #915 VioletTiger

Woo. How big do those crocs get?


Hi {Violet Tiger}

BIG!

It's the biggest reptile in the world...saltwater crocodile

976 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:45:54am

re: #970 Afrocity

Just popping in to say Good Morning.

Afro! We were worried you'd been Raptured away.

977 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:46:07am

re: #960 soxfan4life

Was John McCain that bad, to cause Buffet to be on Team Obama, or did Warren sell his soul to the One.

Buffet is a brilliant investor but when it comes to other things in life I think he's a dolt. I think he just got caught up in mania for The One.

978 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:47:42am

re: #960 soxfan4life

Was John McCain that bad, to cause Buffet to be on Team Obama, or did Warren sell his soul to the One.

I'd truly like to know. I thought Buffet was a perfect example of a self-made, hard working capitalist. Was he just blinded by the One's attention? We may never know.

979 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:48:07am

re: #970 Afrocity

Just popping in to say Good Morning.

Morning! Feeling better?

980 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:48:13am

re: #965 Occasional Reader

It would seem so.

Japan prepares to shoot down North Korean missile

Tokyo is preparing to deploy warships in the Sea of Japan with orders to shoot down any missile fired by North Korea that approaches Japanese waters or the mainland.

The Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force has equipped a number of its Aegis destroyers with the Standard Missile-3 interceptor system, which has proved successful in tests conducted with the US military.

981 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:48:24am

re: #932 Honorary Yooper
Strangely enough HY, he's still not banned!

982 Digital Display  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:48:43am

Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone today?

983 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:49:09am

re: #947 realwest

Oh sure, but ya notice that the nearly 14 foot croc picked on a bitty shark - barely 3.5 feet long!
He wouldn't want to tangle with a decent sized Mako shark! Just not quick enough!

It was just morning tea, not lunch.... :-)

984 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:49:33am

re: #976 Occasional Reader

Afro! We were worried you'd been Raptured away.

You realize what that would mean for the rest of us still hanging out on LGF?

985 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:50:29am

re: #977 Leonidas Hoplite

Buffet is a brilliant investor but when it comes to other things in life I think he's a dolt. I think he just got caught up in mania for The One.

He does like taxes though.

986 Afrocity  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:50:30am

re: #974 JCM

Morning!

How do you take your Coffee?

I have never tasted coffee, never will. I am an herbal tea girl.

987 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:50:45am

re: #982 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone today?

My stomach is a bit upset, has been all night. I went to the dentist yesterday, give me some Amoxicillin for an infection, and I think it's making my stomach sick.

I've been up most of the night.

How are you?

988 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:50:46am

re: #984 Kenneth

You realize what that would mean for the rest of us still hanging out on LGF?

The Rapture sounds like a pretty lousy deal to me anyway. You have to keep your current body for the rest of eternity? What if you don't particularly like your current body?

Off to some meetings. Later.

989 Peacekeeper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:51:11am

re: #956 Lincolntf

..."Darwin's writings, when actually read, express the prevalent racism of the nineteenth century, and endorse an extreme laissez faire political ideology that legitimates the neglect of the suffering poor by the ruling elite,"...

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking when I read about the Galapagos finches.

My point was that this is not the only online community ripping into each other.

990 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:51:38am

re: #948 Spenser (with an S) FWIW - I don't think that of Charles.

991 Afrocity  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:51:45am

re: #976 Occasional Reader

Afro! We were worried you'd been Raptured away.

Never. You are stuck with me until you get tired.

992 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:52:06am

re: #988 Occasional Reader

The Rapture sounds like a pretty lousy deal to me anyway. You have to keep your current body for the rest of eternity? What if you don't particularly like your current body?

Off to some meetings. Later.

Then you will have to work out to improve your body, but exercise will be painless.

993 Peacekeeper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:52:27am

re: #965 Occasional Reader

Do they have that capability?

Rhodan? Mothra?

994 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:52:52am

re: #949 Kosh's Shadow

He deserves one of these Kleptocracy T-Shirts

"Who says cheaters never win" - heh. Proper sentiment in this, the golden age of Obama.

995 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:53:27am

re: #924 Occasional Reader

OK, I'm back. I really liked Watchmen & I wasn't a fan of the comic. It's visually stunning (though I disapproved of the wang-to-boob ratio), a compelling story with deeply flawed, though sympathetic characters, and under the cynical surface, there's a real affirmation of the sacred value of life, so valuable that some of the characters go to horrific extremes to preserve it. It's very violent - not for the squeamish at all. The hero or the villain depends on your point of view. It's worth a second viewing to really see all that the director was trying to accomplish with the movie.

996 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:53:28am

re: #963 Occasional Reader
Yup, but in fairness to both of my former wives, life with me is not exactly a day at the beach, ya know.
Sigh.

997 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:53:37am

re: #975 aussiemagpie

Hi {Violet Tiger}

BIG!

It's the biggest reptile in the world...saltwater crocodile

I hope never to run into one of those. Have been diving with big sharks, but those crocs are can stay right where they are.

998 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:53:38am

re: #985 opnion

He does like taxes though.

Exactly. He can afford to pay so what does he care? As astute an investor as he is he's no Milton Friedman. I wonder how he'd feel about a return to the pre-Reagan days.

999 Digital Display  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:53:40am

re: #987 walter l. newton

My stomach is a bit upset, has been all night. I went to the dentist yesterday, give me some Amoxicillin for an infection, and I think it's making my stomach sick.

I've been up most of the night.

How are you?

Sorry To hear that Walter..Get better soon!

1000 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:54:04am

re: #977 Leonidas Hoplite

Buffet is a brilliant investor but when it comes to other things in life I think he's a dolt. I think he just got caught up in mania for The One.

I heard he has lost 4.5 billion on his 40% stake in Berkshire Hathaway.
And that he personally approved a whole slew of derivative contracts.
How brilliant is that (lately)?

1001 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:54:08am

Obama to take on teachers over merit pay. I think he'll have better luck with talking to the Taliban.

Link.

1002 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:54:28am

Steyn: Re: The "They Did It" Presidency

Victor, I have to say the first six weeks of the Age of the Hopeychange have surprised me. I expected it to bad, but I didn't expect it to be so incompetent. Not because I had any expectations of President Obama's executive skills: As I said back in the fall re the comparisons with Governor Palin, Barack ain't run nuthin' but his mouth. This is the first real job he's had where you're supposed to show up at nine in the morning and make decisions.

emphasis mine ...and our poh Presidente is already worn-out.

1003 Afrocity  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:54:54am

re: #979 VioletTiger

Morning Violet. I am doing better.
Nothing but rain in Chicago

1004 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:55:02am

China harasses a navy ship. N. Korea cuts off the hot line and prepares to launch a missile, who knows where. Iran blusters about new missile range. Does anyone remember the Carter days when everywhere you looked the U.S. was being tested? Soldiers shot or harassed. Welcome back Kotter, and you thought it was just a bad T.V. show.

1005 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:55:04am

Appeasement Follies, 2009 Edition:

Japan set out to construct a shield against ballistic missiles aimed at its cities and military facilities after another North Korean missile test in 1998 that saw the weapon flying over the northern island of Hokkaido before crashing into the Pacific Ocean.

Should the Japanese navy intercept the missile, however, it is likely to provoke anger in North Korea and add new tensions to an already strained relationship.

Oh Nos! You don't want to provoke the anger of a bunch of dictators & thugs! It might add new tensions to an already strained relationship.

By the way, Neville Chamberlain used the very same argument when he cancelled an order to produce new fighter planes for the RAF in 1938. He didn't want to provoke Hitler. As we all know, that strategy worked out real swell for the Brits.

1006 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:55:14am

re: #971 walter l. newton
ROFL! Good morning Walter! Hope you're doing well today!
Uh, y'all did remember to take Maissey OUT of the microwave after her shower, right?!

1007 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:55:49am

re: #990 realwest

I don't think that of Charles.

I always give Charles the benefit of the doubt and I know it was meant as a slam against Falwell only, just saying that that particular belief is not a fringe one, even if I don't hold with it.

1008 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:55:56am
1009 Digital Display  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:55:59am

re: #996 realwest

Yup, but in fairness to both of my former wives, life with me is not exactly a day at the beach, ya know.
Sigh.


Well It's not exactly a day at the Beach blogging with you either..LOL
Good Morning Real..How are you feeling today?

1010 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:56:23am

re: #992 Kosh's Shadow

Then you will have to work out to improve your body, but exercise will be painless.

Are there line-ups for the best work out machines at the gym in Heaven?

1011 Piglet-U93  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:56:42am

OT

Collection of articles about the "Restive" trouble in Thailand.

1012 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:56:54am

re: #997 VioletTiger

I hope never to run into one of those. Have been diving with big sharks, but those crocs are can stay right where they are.

Diving with SHARKS? Goodness, I can barely face them through glass at the aquarium :-)

1013 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:57:53am

re: #1003 Afrocity

Morning Violet. I am doing better.
Nothing but rain in Chicago

We had about a 1/4 - 1/2 inch of snow, 15 degrees, which was enough to glaze the roads for rush hour.

1014 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:57:54am

re: #1000 Spare O'Lake

I heard he has lost 4.5 billion on his 40% stake in Berkshire Hathaway.
And that he personally approved a whole slew of derivative contracts.
How brilliant is that (lately)?

Fair point but he did build a huge fortune from nothing.

1015 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:58:13am

re: #1010 Kenneth

Are there line-ups for the best work out machines at the gym in Heaven?

Of course not. No lines, unless you like waiting in lines.

1016 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:58:39am

re: #975 aussiemagpie
Gee that was interesting... and waaay more than I needed to know about 'em. Glad this wasn't just before bedtime for me!
YOWZA - they can get HUGE!

1017 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:58:51am

re: #1006 realwest

ROFL! Good morning Walter! Hope you're doing well today!
Uh, y'all did remember to take Maissey OUT of the microwave after her shower, right?!

Thanks, I couldn't remember where I put her. BBIAB.

1018 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:59:05am

re: #986 Afrocity

I have never tasted coffee, never will. I am an herbal tea girl.

I guess we can tolerate a non-coffee drinker around here....

/ ;-)

1019 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:59:43am

The Obama Disaster-- 50 Days That Changed the World

1020 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:59:54am

re: #1009 HoosierHoops
Well I was feeling pretty good until SOMEONE said blogging with me is no day at the beach!
How's about a stroll in the park then?!

1021 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:00:36am

re: #1013 walter l. newton

We had about a 1/4 - 1/2 inch of snow, 15 degrees, which was enough to glaze the roads for rush hour.

Total BS. I'm so sick of 1/2" of snow at a time. I want 2 feet! (we need 4 feet)

1022 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:00:42am

re: #1000 Spare O'Lake

My first 1,000!
It feels rapturous.

1023 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:01:23am

re: #1016 realwest

Gee that was interesting... and waaay more than I needed to know about 'em. Glad this wasn't just before bedtime for me!
YOWZA - they can get HUGE!

That's what I like about LGF - it's good to find out things, I didn't know the salties were the biggest reptile until I just read that article

1024 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:01:26am
1025 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:01:59am

re: #1022 Spare O'Lake

My first 1,000!


You'll have to remind redstateredneck so that you can collect your prize.

1026 realwest  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:02:12am

Well y'all I gotta run - chores to do and all that! Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

1027 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:02:16am

re: #1019 FrogMarch

The Obama Disaster-- 50 Days That Changed the World

Compared to what Obama has done, we could take a disaster standing on our heads in shit.

1028 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:02:25am

The only true Rapture is is on LGF at 5 pm EST.

1029 Digital Display  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:03:03am

re: #1020 realwest

Well I was feeling pretty good until SOMEONE said blogging with me is no day at the beach!
How's about a stroll in the park then?!

Can you believe it's going to be 72 here today..Weds. it's going to be in the 30's. Crazy weather bro..

1030 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:03:13am

Morning all!

Well, all in all, this seems to be a pretty good recap of the Obama administration so far:

The 10 Biggest Amateur Mistakes By the Obama Administration So Far

And it ain't Letterman.

1031 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:03:16am

re: #1021 FrogMarch

Total BS. I'm so sick of 1/2" of snow at a time. I want 2 feet! (we need 4 feet)

I'm with you. This has been a relatively dry winter down here. Up the hill the snow has been ok, but we certainly need a good dumper before it warms up.

1032 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:03:48am
1033 xtraBilly  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:04:35am

re: #1015 Kosh's Shadow

Of course not. No lines, unless you like waiting in lines.


Although under the new ethos you might have to sacrifice some of your heavenly bliss to help the less fortunate folks in purgatory.

1034 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:04:51am

Towercam! Above the clouds!

Good Morning All.

1035 J.S.  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:05:05am

Jerry Falwell certainly seems to exhibit some bizarre logic here...If all the "physical" items (such as clothes) are left behind, what about material bodies? The "material bodies" suddenly "disappear" -- nude of course -- to be "transported" to "heaven?" (imo this is incredibly idiotic).

But then, I suppose, there are many other idiotic notions, such as certain writers (Jewish) defending Israeli "Apartheid" Week, by claiming they ain't no antisemite, since they can use Jimmy Carter and Desmond Tutu as their defense...

1036 Timbre  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:05:27am

re: #919 lurking faith

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
- Matthew 19:24

This is why Obama is trying to relieve us of some of our "Hell baggage." Spread it around so we can all get in--like the messiah he is!

/not necessary

1037 BingoBunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:05:32am

Sounds like Rapture will be a huge class action suit against God.. since all the lawyers will still be here..

NOKO missle test being shot down by Japan.. 60/40 for

NOKO going to war over the shoot down 10/90 against

4% chance of nuke war in B ho's first term..so he's tied JFK.. and thats not counting Iran yet.

1038 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:07:11am

re: #998 Leonidas Hoplite

Exactly. He can afford to pay so what does he care? As astute an investor as he is he's no Milton Friedman. I wonder how he'd feel about a return to the pre-Reagan days.

He made a comment during the campaign to the effect that his lowly paid secretary was in a higher tax bracket , than some fat cats.
My reaction was, pay her more.

1039 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:07:54am

BBIAW

1040 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:09:19am

re: #1031 walter l. newton

I'm with you. This has been a relatively dry winter down here. Up the hill the snow has been ok, but we certainly need a good dumper before it warms up.

I thought I heard that Grand Junction was in better shape than the front range. Yes - at least the mountains are getting some snow.

1041 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:09:40am

re: #33 kimmie7

Because I've been kind of a hit and miss reader. I guess I missed threads where Christians had been made fun of, but I'm a Christian and won't take part in that kind of thing.

"Making fun of Christians" apparently now includes simply posting verbatim quotes from Jerry Falwell, with no comment. Interesting how that works.

1042 Piglet-U93  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:10:46am

ROTFLMAO

Purim Video - Octomom gives birth (51 seconds)

Scroll down a few articles for embedded video

1043 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:10:57am

re: #1037 BingoBunny

Sounds like Rapture will be a huge class action suit against God.. since all the lawyers will still be here..

NOKO missle test being shot down by Japan.. 60/40 for

NOKO going to war over the shoot down 10/90 against

4% chance of nuke war in B ho's first term..so he's tied JFK.. and thats not counting Iran yet.

NorKo missile a massive fail fireball, US and Japan say, It blowed up by itself we don't know nuttin' about no intercept.....

Meanwhile an Arleigh Burke class destroyer returns minus a Standard Block IV and a missile painted on the bridge.

1044 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:13:17am

re: #807 albusteve

Pop Warner!...heh...thanks, I liked that guy Hansen, never heard of him

He just celebrated 25 years with WFAA. His Unplugged commentaries usually leave a mark.

1045 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:13:20am

re: #1038 opnion

He made a comment during the campaign to the effect that his lowly paid secretary was in a higher tax bracket , than some fat cats.
My reaction was, pay her more.

"Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation. "

1046 badger1970  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:13:37am

You see, it's like this. The loony fringe "Christians" want you to save them from themselves by not quoting anything from money-grubbing assholes like Falwell.

1047 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:13:52am

Bedtime here, so goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ for you...

Keeping with the croc theme...

Australia Park Zoo, Steve Irwin's legacy......

1048 VegasRick  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:14:49am

re: #1030 subsailor68

Morning all!

Well, all in all, this seems to be a pretty good recap of the Obama administration so far:

The 10 Biggest Amateur Mistakes By the Obama Administration So Far

And it ain't Letterman.

Good article.

1049 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #1045 avanti

"Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation. "

Like I said, he's something of a dolt. His effective rate may have been 17.7% but I'm sure he paid a lot more in taxes than his secretary.

1050 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:16:29am

re: #1045 avanti

"Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation. "


Ok, "Mr. Buffet" was free to pay more taxes & yeah he could pay his secretary more. My point stands

1051 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:16:33am

re: #1003 Afrocity

Morning Violet. I am doing better.
Nothing but rain in Chicago

Tell me about the rain. Several inches since Saturday afternoon. We have several roads down here that are closed due to overflowing creeks and rivers, and several others that are threatened to be closed due to creeks and rivers they go near or over. Then there's the railroad underpass flooding problems.

1052 grover!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:17:06am

You guys do realize that not all Christians believe in the Rapture, right>!?!?!?

In fact I think it is a very dangerous and foolish doctrine. Please don't think that all Christians are this stupid. :(

1053 Cato  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:17:57am

re: #837 albusteve

I have represented a lot of sign owners in my day and the 1st Amendment arguments usually don't work because there are time and place restrictions applicable. Also, since Lady Bird Johnson's beautification initiative, signs have been considered an eyesore.

1054 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:19:18am

Markets jump because of leaked optimistic letter from Citibank on the state of its affairs in January and February.

1055 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:19:22am

re: #1045 avanti

"Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation. "

His friend Barack Hussein Obama will ensure that his % will increase, while his secretaries will also increase, just not as dramatically.

1056 walter l. newton  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:19:25am

re: #1052 grover!

You guys do realize that not all Christians believe in the Rapture, right>!?!?!?

In fact I think it is a very dangerous and foolish doctrine. Please don't think that all Christians are this stupid. :(

I don't think a Christian is "stupid" if he/she believes in the rapture. You're a jerk. Why don't you go trash some other blog.

Oh, by the way, I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm an atheist, and yes, you're still a jerk.

1057 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:19:53am

re: #1052 grover!

Rapture?

This is the only rapture I'm interested in:

Youtube Video
1058 tackle  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:19:57am

re: #1030 subsailor68

Morning all!

Well, all in all, this seems to be a pretty good recap of the Obama administration so far:

The 10 Biggest Amateur Mistakes By the Obama Administration So Far

And it ain't Letterman.

Nice recap. And that list could easily double. I like the end quote, regarding the state of the stock market:

As Democratic financial wiz, Jim Cramer, has said of Obama’s performance, "it's amateur hour at our darkest moment" and it's "crushing nest eggs around the nation."
1059 BingoBunny  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:20:08am

#1043 JCM

New York Times exposes Navy lie and says we shot down NOKO missile on orders from Defense Sec Gates.. B ho says he didn't read the memo from Gates on it until after it happened.

liberals attack gates as last of the cowboy Bush holdovers.. B ho promises to send NOKO a nuclear reactor if they stop shelling Seoul

1060 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:20:11am

re: #1034 Ojoe

Towercam! Above the clouds!

Good Morning All.

Bee-yutiful!

1061 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:22:00am

re: #1052 grover!

WTH? Of course we know this! Get a grip please.

1062 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:22:57am

This is just deeply disturbing on so many levels.

1063 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:23:01am

re: #1045 avanti

"Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation. "

If it bothers him that much, he could whip out his checkbook and write out a check to the U.S. Treasury.

1064 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:23:45am

re: #1062 lawhawk

This is just deeply disturbing on so many levels.

Ouch.

1065 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:24:50am

re: #1059 BingoBunny

#1043 JCM

New York Times exposes Navy lie and says we shot down NOKO missile on orders from Defense Sec Gates.. B ho says he didn't read the memo from Gates on it until after it happened.

liberals attack gates as last of the cowboy Bush holdovers.. B ho promises to send NOKO a nuclear reactor if they stop shelling Seoul

Linky? /kidding

1066 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:25:28am

re: #1052 grover!

You guys do realize that not all Christians believe in the Rapture, right>!?!?!?

In fact I think it is a very dangerous and foolish doctrine. Please don't think that all Christians are this stupid. :(

I case of Rapture, I won't log off..........

1067 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:25:38am

re: #1041 Charles

"Making fun of Christians" apparently now includes simply posting verbatim quotes from Jerry Falwell, with no comment. Interesting how that works.

It's a interesting topic. Just as there are dozens of translations and interpretations of the Bible, there are dozens of interpretations of the so called rapture. Here's a brief history of how the concept evolved over the centuries and the different versions from the figurative to the literal with added bits and pieces added embellishments.

Rapture.

1068 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:25:44am

Angelic Towercam.

A relative of mine, who has worked for a grocery store for years, has had his work hours reduced.

1069 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:25:53am
1070 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:26:14am

re: #1065 abolitionist

Linky? /kidding

Sarc, in response to my #1043.....

NorKo is unpredictable as hell.

1071 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:26:45am

re: #1041 Charles

Fools need no parody.

1072 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:27:14am

re: #1067 avanti

As usual, Avanti, you miss the point. It wasn't about rapture, it was about Falwell's actual words.

1073 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:27:31am

re: #1059 BingoBunny

#1043 JCM

New York Times exposes Navy lie and says we shot down NOKO missile on orders from Defense Sec Gates.. B ho says he didn't read the memo from Gates on it until after it happened.

liberals attack gates as last of the cowboy Bush holdovers.. B ho promises to send NOKO a nuclear reactor if they stop shelling Seoul

Huh?

1074 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:27:38am
1075 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:28:27am

re: #1051 Honorary Yooper

Tell me about the rain. Several inches since Saturday afternoon. We have several roads down here that are closed due to overflowing creeks and rivers, and several others that are threatened to be closed due to creeks and rivers they go near or over. Then there's the railroad underpass flooding problems.

What's rain? *Sigh* We could sure use some in So. Cal. How can I curl up in my library with a good book when it's bright, sunny, and beautiful out?

Of course, flooding sucks.

1076 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:28:40am

re: #1062 lawhawk

This is just deeply disturbing on so many levels.

Brilliant!

1077 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:29:40am

re: #1054 lawhawk

Markets jump because of leaked optimistic letter from Citibank on the state of its affairs in January and February.

Citibank execs priming the well before a take-over?

1078 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:30:07am
1079 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:30:33am

re: #1077 Kenneth

Citibank execs priming the well before a take-over?

Sounds like good old fashioned Sand Bagging, to me. Or the ever classic Pig-In-A-Poke.

1080 pink freud  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:30:38am

Heroic Name Given to Photo of President Obama

Soon after President Barack Obama signed an executive order lifting the ban on the use federal funding of embryonic stem cells in medical research, the wizards behind the White House web site posted the photo above. Though I find it less troubling than the president’s continuing assault on the unborn, the file name (hero_stemcell_main2.jpg) under which someone at the White House saved the photo of the signing ceremony this afternoon is disturbingly creepy.

1081 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:30:43am

re: #1052 grover!

Please give us some credit.

/paging Mr. Obvious

1082 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:30:45am

re: #1075 Russkilitlover

Nah, if we get any rain it will just increase the fuel available for our annual summer wildfires.

1083 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:30:58am

When I hear "Rapture" I think "Blondie".

1084 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:31:00am

re: #1079 Russkilitlover

Sounds like good old fashioned Sand Bagging, to me. Or the ever classic Pig-In-A-Poke.

Shh, or you'll the cat out of the bag.

1085 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:31:22am
1086 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:31:35am

Got your Rapture right here:

Youtube Video
1087 grover!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:31:54am

re: #1056 walter l. newton

I don't think a Christian is "stupid" if he/she believes in the rapture. You're a jerk. Why don't you go trash some other blog.

Oh, by the way, I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm an atheist, and yes, you're still a jerk.

Why, thank you, for the compliment :P

If someone claims to be a Christian, and claims to believe in the bible, then the Rapture is easily proven to be a wrongheaded doctrine.

1088 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:32:23am

What, voters having to prove who they say they are? It's RACISM!

Democrats decry voter ID bill ahead of hearing today

1089 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:33:03am

re: #1049 Leonidas Hoplite

Like I said, he's something of a dolt. His effective rate may have been 17.7% but I'm sure he paid a lot more in taxes than his secretary.

I think the point is we are supposed to have a progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher tax rate. If the secretary is left with $42,000 after taxes at 30 percent on 60K, a guy making 50 million would still be left with a tidy 35 million at the same rate. There is no question that the rich pay more in taxes, and always have.

1090 jaunte  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:33:20am

re: #1083 Sharmuta

When I hear "Rapture" I think "Blondie".

I think of the 'Left Behind' series. 65 million copies sold.

1091 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:33:45am

re: #1083 Sharmuta

When I hear "Rapture" I think "Blondie".

"'Cause the man from mars stopped eating cars and eating bars and now he only eats guitars."

Great song.

1092 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:33:57am

Time to trot this one out again, modified:

"Obama still has his job, do you still have yours?"

1093 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:34:13am

re: #1090 jaunte

I think of the 'Left Behind' series. 65 million copies sold.

Never read any of them, and only heard of them a couple of times.

1094 grover!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:34:44am

re: #1057 lawhawk

Yeah, baby. I love that one.

1095 jaunte  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:34:51am

re: #1093 Honorary Yooper

I've just seen them in bookstores.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

1096 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:35:04am

re: #1083 Sharmuta

When I hear "Rapture" I think "Blondie".

Me too. Been trying to keep that crap song out of my head.

/"Man from Mozz"

1097 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:35:29am

re: #1090 jaunte

I think of the 'Left Behind' series. 65 million copies sold.

Not as much fun or as sexy as Debbie Harry.

1098 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:35:44am

re: #1084 JCM

Shh, or you'll the cat out of the bag.

Would that be Schroedinger's Cat? Cause if you just don't look at it, it probably doesn't exist. Which is EXACTLY Barry's take on the stock market.

1099 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:35:50am

re: #1093 Honorary Yooper

Never read any of them, and only heard of them a couple of times.

From what I've heard, the movie series falls squarely into the "so bad, its good" category.

1100 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:35:52am

re: #1088 Ward Cleaver

What, voters having to prove who they say they are? It's RACISM!

Democrats decry voter ID bill ahead of hearing today

Sad. and typical.
If we have one-person one-vote elections - the democrats cannot cheat to win. Of course Democrats are against honest elections.

1101 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:36:14am

re: #1090 jaunte

I think of the 'Left Behind' series. 65 million copies sold.

Cha-ching!

1102 JCM  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:37:02am

re: #1089 avanti

I think the point is we are supposed to have a progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher tax rate. If the secretary is left with $42,000 after taxes at 30 percent on 60K, a guy making 50 million would still be left with a tidy 35 million at the same rate. There is no question that the rich pay more in taxes, and always have.

What types of "income" did Buffet include in that $47 million?

Which is better for the economy, giving a bigger piece to government and letting it return pennies on the dollar to the economy or letting Buffet invest it, thereby directing fueling job creation, and economic growth?

1103 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:37:03am

Botchmen

1104 jaunte  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:37:58am

re: #1101 Ward Cleaver

Cha-ching!

Penn Gillette is quoted on Left Behind in that wiki:

In 2004, episode #1-04 of Penn & Teller's TV show Bullshit! focused on the "end of the world" phenomenon, following centuries of incorrect prophecy. The show explained that Bible prophecy is nothing new, and that the vague descriptions in the book of Revelation can apply to almost any location at any time. The Left Behind series was featured, and Jerry B. Jenkins was interviewed. Jenkins stated, "In my mind, in a way, we are sales people for the Gospel." He continued, "People say money is the root of all evil, and actually it's the love of money that's the root of all evil. So there is nothing wrong with money if you use it right." The host, Penn Jillette, responded in voiceover, "What's the story on money if you get it by creating an irrational fear in people?"


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

1105 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:38:01am
1106 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:38:28am

Really Late on This One. The Jewish Commentaries have a different take on this, one which I prefer. Goes something like this - "... if you hear that the Messiah has arrived and you are planting a tree - finish planting the tree, THEN go meet the Messiah. That is all.

-S-

1107 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:38:41am

re: #1100 FrogMarch

Sad. and typical.
If we have one-person one-vote elections - the democrats cannot cheat to win. Of course Democrats are against honest elections.


Democrats seem to be against honesty period.

1108 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:39:15am

Market watch

1109 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:39:30am

re: #1069 taxfreekiller

do not like commie Presidents or commie posters

That's a given, who could disagree with that. The day we elect a Commie POTUS we are no longer Americans. As too Commie posters. they have the right of free speech, but that means we can call them out too.

1110 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:39:53am

re: #1099 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

From what I've heard, the movie series falls squarely into the "so bad, its good" category.

There's a movie series? Never heard of that. On the other hand, I'm eagerly awaiting the next Narnia installment.

1111 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:39:55am

re: #1054 lawhawk

Markets jump because of leaked optimistic letter from Citibank on the state of its affairs in January and February.

Warms the cockles of my heart...here, click on the link below and then click on "max" if you want some perspective on this great news.
[Link: markets.on.nytimes.com...]

1112 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:40:06am

re: #1089 avanti

I think the point is we are supposed to have a progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher tax rate. If the secretary is left with $42,000 after taxes at 30 percent on 60K, a guy making 50 million would still be left with a tidy 35 million at the same rate. There is no question that the rich pay more in taxes, and always have.

Right, which then begs the question on the income that he was taxed on. If he took the majority of his income in long-term capital gains that portion would not be taxed at the same rate as his regular income.

1113 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:40:13am

re: #1052 grover!

See my post 704. All Christians believe in some version of the Rapture, which holds that the resurrected Jesus is coming back at some future time, or may already have come back. Not all Christians believe Falwell's premillenial version of it, with people literally vanishing into thin air. There's a popular series of books based upon Falwell's version of the Rapture called "Left Behind".

At least we're arguing theology here, not evolution! ;-) And I try to not to call religious beliefs "insane" unless they involve mass murder, or other murders, of innocent people.

1114 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:40:21am

Is 0bama a commie? Three words: Spread. The. Wealth.

1115 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:40:41am

re: #1098 Russkilitlover

Would that be Schroedinger's Cat? Cause if you just don't look at it, it probably doesn't exist. Which is EXACTLY Barry's take on the stock market.

LOL!

Link posted last night, physicists peeked in Schroedinger's Black Box with out disturbing it.

1116 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:41:13am
1117 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:41:57am

re: #1089 avanti

I think the point is we are supposed to have a progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher tax rate. If the secretary is left with $42,000 after taxes at 30 percent on 60K, a guy making 50 million would still be left with a tidy 35 million at the same rate. There is no question that the rich pay more in taxes, and always have.


The wealthy would still pay more with a flat tax.
Progressive taxation is a form of penalty for success.
With our taxes we buy goods & services from the government & a wealthy man gets the same military protection etc that an average citizen gets.

1118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:42:25am

re: #1110 Honorary Yooper

There's a movie series? Never heard of that. On the other hand, I'm eagerly awaiting the next Narnia installment.

Left Behind

Still haven't seen Prince Caspian.

1119 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:42:33am
1120 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:43:18am

re: #1114 Sharmuta

Is 0bama a commie? Three words: Spread. The. Wealth.

He may be saying "spread the wealth", but are his ecomonics more communistic or fascistic? Right now, they seem more fascistic in that he is leaving the companies that ask for aid with a private veneer. Communists just take them over wholesale.

1121 pink freud  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:44:16am

re: #1114 Sharmuta

"It's not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got the chance at success too ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

1122 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:45:09am

re: #1116 taxfreekiller

#1107

Why else elect a full blown life long commie liar like this Obama failure.

He has a different agenda than you and I, Obama is no failure.

1123 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:45:20am

re: #1120 Honorary Yooper

He may be saying "spread the wealth", but are his ecomonics more communistic or fascistic? Right now, they seem more fascistic in that he is leaving the companies that ask for aid with a private veneer. Communists just take them over wholesale.

It's fascism without nationalism (unlike Nazi Germany), since the Obamas hate America.

1124 xtraBilly  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:45:56am

re: #1088 Ward Cleaver

What, voters having to prove who they say they are? It's RACISM!

Democrats decry voter ID bill ahead of hearing today

"When you look at the record, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than to have anybody in this state impersonate another voter," said Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, the Democratic leader in the Senate.

Duh, if you never check on a person's eligibility you're never going to find illegal voters. I guess Leticia's from the Stalin school of voting - "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."

1125 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:46:16am
1126 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:46:18am

re: #1052 grover!

Follow-up to my 1081:

You will find a fairly wide range of beliefs here at LGF, if you pay attention. So yes, we are fully aware that no single preacher represents all Christians.

By the way, as it's simply an article of faith, I hope that you don't think the Rapture is any more "stupid" than any other Christian tradition that's not laid out very specifically and clearly in the Bible.

1127 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:46:19am

re: #1121 pink freud

"It's not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got the chance at success too ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

He wants to give people a fish, instead of teaching them to fish.

1128 grover!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #1113 quickjustice

See my post 704. All Christians believe in some version of the Rapture, which holds that the resurrected Jesus is coming back at some future time, or may already have come back. Not all Christians believe Falwell's premillenial version of it, with people literally vanishing into thin air. There's a popular series of books based upon Falwell's version of the Rapture called "Left Behind".

At least we're arguing theology here, not evolution! ;-) And I try to not to call religious beliefs "insane" unless they involve mass murder, or other murders, of innocent people.

Well, the return of Christ is a totally different doctrine than the "Rapture". Heh, in my wishful thinking, I wish it would happen. ;)

And, I didn't say it was insane, just stupid. At least a pre-trib rapture. I think when things start to go bad (really bad), that there will be many Christians who fall away from God because they have been taught their entire lives that God will "rapture" them. They are going to be very surprised when he doesn't, and very angry, I think. I think they will lose faith over this false teaching.

1129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:47:31am

re: #1117 opnion

The wealthy would still pay more with a flat tax.
Progressive taxation is a form of penalty for success.
With our taxes we buy goods & services from the government & a wealthy man gets the same military protection etc that an average citizen gets.

If we are all equal before the law, then its only fair that we pay an equal percentage of taxes. re: #1127 Ward Cleaver

He wants to give people a fish, instead of teaching them to fish.

He wants people to beg him for a fish.

1130 Bobblehead  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:48:01am

Who's watching the economy?
Image: botchmen.jpg

1131 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:48:06am

re: #1121 pink freud

"It's not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got the chance at success too ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

The problem is, of course, people like 0bama make it very hard for anyone to have a "chance at success". It is the low-regulation, low-tax environment that gives everyone a chance.

1132 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:48:14am

re: #1129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He wants people to beg him for a fish.

"Oh Obamessiah, please rebate us a fish!"

1133 jaunte  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:48:43am

Redistributed fish stink.

1134 VegasRick  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:48:48am

re: #1127 Ward Cleaver

He wants to give people a fistf*ckh, instead of teaching them to fish.

FTFY

1135 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #1128 grover!

Well, the return of Christ is a totally different doctrine than the "Rapture". Heh, in my wishful thinking, I wish it would happen. ;)

And, I didn't say it was insane, just stupid. At least a pre-trib rapture. I think when things start to go bad (really bad), that there will be many Christians who fall away from God because they have been taught their entire lives that God will "rapture" them. They are going to be very surprised when he doesn't, and very angry, I think. I think they will lose faith over this false teaching.

I would agree with that.

1136 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:06am

re: #1132 Ward Cleaver

CARP 1 and CARP 2?

1137 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:13am

re: #1114 Sharmuta

Is 0bama a commie? Three words: Spread. The. Wealth.

From each according to his abilities,
To each according to his needs.
- Barack Marx

1138 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:19am

re: #1127 Ward Cleaver

He wants to give people a fish, instead of teaching them to fish.

And he gets the fish by taking it from people who get up and fish to give to people who stay at home.

1139 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:28am
1140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:33am

re: #1136 Lincolntf

CARP 1 and CARP 2?

LOL!

1141 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:37am

re: #1102 JCM

What types of "income" did Buffet include in that $47 million?

Which is better for the economy, giving a bigger piece to government and letting it return pennies on the dollar to the economy or letting Buffet invest it, thereby directing fueling job creation, and economic growth?

Excellent point. The progressive tax should not be so high as to demotivate the rich from getting richer. If you believe in trickle down economics, the more they keep, the more they spend fueling the economy. That's why they keep fiddling with the rate, trying to strike a balance.

1142 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:49:57am

re: #1121 pink freud

"It's not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got the chance at success too ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Well first they have to make a conscious decision to get off the couch... which I am sure we already paid for...

1143 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:50:43am

9/11 defendants: 'We are terrorists to the bone'

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico – Five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks mock U.S. authorities and proclaim themselves "terrorists to the bone" in a war crimes court filing released Tuesday.

The five Guantanamo prisoners use the six-page document to try to justify the killing of nearly 3,000 people, portraying the attack as a response to U.S. actions in Israel, Iraq and elsewhere that is supported by their Muslim faith.

We were in Iraq before 9/11, huh.
Are you listening, SlObama ?

1144 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:51:10am

re: #1129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He wants people to beg him for a fish.

I've sometimes fantasized about being a Seal, but not in that way...

1145 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:51:15am

re: #1127 Ward Cleaver

He wants to give people a fish, instead of teaching them to fish.

He wants to give people YOUR fish, instead of teaching them to fish.

1146 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:51:25am

re: #1121 pink freud

"It's not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got the chance at success too ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Obama told us who he is in a 2001 NPR interview.
He lamented that, the Constitution has no provision for "Economic Justice." He simply does not grasp the purpose of the Constituton or just chooses not to.
His "Spread the Wealth Around" comment to Joe the Plumber is consistent.

1147 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:52:03am
1148 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:53:17am

re: #1146 opnion

He lamented that, the Constitution has no provision for "Economic Justice."

And that is probably the single scariest thing he has ever said, at least prior to taking office. He truly doesn't "get" the Constitution... or, he truly doesn't accept it.

1149 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:54:00am

re: #1141 avanti

Excellent point. The progressive tax should not be so high as to demotivate the rich from getting richer. If you believe in trickle down economics, the more they keep, the more they spend fueling the economy. That's why they keep fiddling with the rate, trying to strike a balance.

Laffer curve.

The fundamental questions are:
How much should the Federal Government do?
How much of the GDP are we willing to give to government?

The current course we are moving from a Representative Republic to Oligarchy.

1150 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:55:12am

I was at Radio City last night to hear Coulter and Mahar. What a setup and what a farce. 90% of the "audience" were libs. The "moderator" was a lib. The questions were all liberal questions and talking points. And Coulter really has to get off evolution, religion, stem cell research and Jindal or it's gong to bury us all. I'll write more later when I get a chance and after I've taken another bottle of aleve.

1151 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:55:17am

re: #1105 taxfreekiller

"we are supposed to have a progressive tax"

screw that

fact is we are "supposed" to have people who care about America

not
traitors like John F'n Kerry and
this todie commie Obama....., while we are supposing.....

You do know the tax has been progressive since it's inception ? Would you be willing to see your rate go way so the wealthy paid the same rate as everyone. If you think the progressive tax is Communism, we've been Commie's for decades.

1152 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:55:23am

re: #1129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He wants people to beg him for a fish.

BHO want's more government dependency. Capitalism can't survive a situation where more are on the dole , than there are those providing.
That would usher in Socialism & we know that Barry disdains Socialism, right?

1153 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #1126 lurking faith

By the way, as it's simply an article of faith, I hope that you don't think the Rapture is any more "stupid" than any other Christian tradition

Frankly, I find the ideas of Rapture and, more broadly, of "End Times" more stupid or, if you prefer, dangerous than other articles of Christian faith (and I quite like many of those articles, btw, even as an atheist), to the extent they adversely affect peoples' real-world decisions. "End Times a-comin'? Well, then, I don't to plan for my future, or my kids' future, do I?" That sort of thing.

1154 xtraBilly  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:56:20am

re: #1146 opnion
I think Obama's sense of Economic Justice comes from the fact that he's never held a real job - his career is based on social contact, social networks, and socialism.

1155 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:56:47am
1156 Timbre  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:56:47am

Rosario Dawson plans to tongue lick her children when they misbehave. I wonder how many guys are are going to apply to be adopted by her?

1157 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:58:12am

re: #1148 Occasional Reader

And that is probably the single scariest thing he has ever said, at least prior to taking office. He truly doesn't "get" the Constitution... or, he truly doesn't accept it.


It's one or the other. I believe that he was an "Adjunct" professor of Constitutonal law for a short time at the University of Chicago.
Can you imaghine the whacked out lesson plan?

1158 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:58:57am

re: #1128 grover!

Thanks for that clarification; I see what you were driving at now.

But I suspect that many of those people would lose faith under those conditions even without having been taught to believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. Particularly if they think that prosperity is a sign of God's favor.

1159 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:58:57am

re: #1149 jcm

Laffer curve.

The fundamental questions are:
How much should the Federal Government do?
How much of the GDP are we willing to give to government?

The current course we are moving from a Representative Republic to Oligarchy.

Some things the government does better, national defense is the obvious example. The fight has always been how much it should do, or could do better. The fiscal conservatives need to restrain the idea that Uncle Sugar can do everything better.

1160 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:58:57am

re: #1143 SasquatchOnSteroids

9/11 defendants: 'We are terrorists to the bone'

We were in Iraq before 9/11, huh.
Are you listening, SlObama ?

Best argument for a death penalty I've heard recently.

1161 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:59:09am
1162 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:59:42am

re: #1141 avanti

That's why they keep fiddling with the rate, trying to strike a balance.

To the extent we have to have a "progressive" income tax system, IMHO it's a continuing act of willful stupidity to have these sharp jumps in marginal rates when income passes X or Y dollars. The thing should be a formula yielding a smooth (and gentle) curve, not these ziggurat-link pyramid "jumps" in rates. At no point in the taxable income continuum should you be dis incentivized to earn the next dollar.

1163 opnion  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:00:09am

re: #1154 xtraBilly

I think Obama's sense of Economic Justice comes from the fact that he's never held a real job - his career is based on social contact, social networks, and socialism.

He & his wife are citizens of the entitled class & nothing is enough.

1164 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:00:15am

re: #1156 Timbre

Rosario Dawson plans to tongue lick her children when they misbehave. I wonder how many guys are are going to apply to be adopted by her?

I've been INCREDIBLY naughty, Rosie.

1165 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:00:27am

re: #1156 Timbre

Rosario Dawson plans to tongue lick her children when they misbehave. I wonder how many guys are are going to apply to be adopted by her?

Rosario, I've been a very naughty boy.
(Hope my wife doesn't read this)

1166 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:01:39am
1167 nyc redneck  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:02:22am

re: #1092 Ojoe

Time to trot this one out again, modified:

"Obama still has his job, do you still have yours?"

most gov't workers do still have their jobs.
and o will be hiring a mob of "green" employees soon.
we're going broke trying to keep them in "business"

1168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:03:16am

re: #1156 Timbre

Rosario Dawson plans to tongue lick her children when they misbehave. I wonder how many guys are are going to apply to be adopted by her?

So, for a good time, cry in front of Salma Hayek & misbehave in front of Rosario Dawson.

1169 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:03:22am

If IBM made toasters...
They would want one big toaster where people bring bread to be submitted for overnight toasting. IBM would claim a worldwide market for five, maybe six toasters.

If Xerox made toasters...
You could toast one-sided or double-sided. Successive slices would get lighter and lighter. The toaster would jam your bread for you.

If Radio Shack made toasters...
The staff would sell you a toaster, but not know anything about it. Or you could buy all the parts to build your own toaster.

If Oracle made toasters...
They'd claim their toaster was compatible with all brands and styles of bread, but when you got it home you'd discover the Bagel Engine was
still in development, the Croissant Extension was three years away, and that indeed the whole appliance was just blowing smoke.

If Sun made toasters...
The toast would burn often, but you could get a really good cuppa Java.

Does DEC still make toasters?...
They made good toasters in the '80s, didn't they?

If Cray made toasters...
They would cost $16 million but would be faster than any other single-slice toaster in the world.

If The Rand Corporation made toasters...
It would be a large, perfectly smooth and seamless black cube. Every morning there would be a piece of toast on top of it. Their service department would have an unlisted phone number, and the blueprints for the box would be highly classified government documents. The X-Files would have an episode about it.

If the NSA made toasters...
Your toaster would have a secret trap door that only the NSA could access in case they needed to get at your toast for reasons of national security.

If Sony made toasters...
The ToastMan, which would be barely larger than the single piece of bread it is meant to toast, can be conveniently attached to your belt.

1170 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:03:22am
1171 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:03:23am

re: #1162 Occasional Reader

To the extent we have to have a "progressive" income tax system, IMHO it's a continuing act of willful stupidity to have these sharp jumps in marginal rates when income passes X or Y dollars. The thing should be a formula yielding a smooth (and gentle) curve, not these ziggurat-link pyramid "jumps" in rates. At no point in the taxable income continuum should you be dis incentivized to earn the next dollar.

The tables and jumps made sense when most calculations were done by hand. It would be fairly easy to program a continuous calculation.

Same thing with Mass health insurance requirements.
10 employees - no requirement
11 - now you need to offer health insurance.
That one is harder to correct, though, as you can't give "10% health insurance".

1172 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:04:31am

re: #1159 avanti

Some things the government does better, national defense is the obvious example. The fight has always been how much it should do, or could do better. The fiscal conservatives need to restrain the idea that Uncle Sugar can do everything better.

Seeing how national defense is one of the few things that the Constitution requires the government do, it better be good at it!

1173 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:05:01am

re: #1165 Kosh's Shadow

Rosario, I've been a very naughty boy.
(Hope my wife doesn't read this)

LIAR! Kosh's Shadow didn't dump all the food in the fridge on the kitchen floor, Rosie, I DID!

1174 Timbre  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:05:08am

re: #1164 Occasional Reader

re: #1165 Kosh's Shadow

re: #1168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So I think the four of us have a plan! :0

1175 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:05:08am
1176 grover!  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:05:38am

re: #1158 lurking faith

Yes.

1177 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:05:45am

re: #1161 taxfreekiller

This "progressive income tax idea" is and was and will always be a "commie" idea.

The fact this mistake was made does not in any way make it correct in the past, now or in the future.

Well, that explain your flip use of the Commie label. We've been supporting a Commie tax system for 100 years.

1178 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:06:05am

re: #1159 avanti

Some things the government does better, national defense is the obvious example. The fight has always been how much it should do, or could do better. The fiscal conservatives need to restrain the idea that Uncle Sugar can do everything better.

Defense if part of the Consitutional Mandate.
So is international diplomacy and regulation to keep the states form getting into economic wars with each other (interstate commerce).

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Where is the authority for the bailouts?

1179 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:07:31am

re: #1056 walter l. newton

I don't think a Christian is "stupid" if he/she believes in the rapture. You're a jerk. Why don't you go trash some other blog.

Oh, by the way, I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm an atheist, and yes, you're still a jerk.

Thanks Walter! I was about to respond in a similar manner. For someone who claims to be a Christian, Grover doesn't seem to be spreading much love for his fellows.

/I would have held off on the 'Jerk' part, but the point stands.

1180 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:08:52am

re: #1147 ploome hineni

If we're talking about a rapture taking place before the tribulations and second coming, then there is no basis in the Bible for it at all.

Otherwise, for a gathering of the elect ...
Try Matthew 24:27-41
Also 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17

On the other hand, there's 1 Corinthians 15:50-55, which mentions changing but not being taken up to heaven.

1181 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:09:48am

Time to wander the streets aimlessly for a while.

1182 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:10:10am

re: #1156 Timbre

From that same link:

Eva Longoria wants our new president to address immigration and she’s ready to stand up and fight for her homeland of Mexico. [um, she was born in Texas.]

"First things first, our country is in a really tough position right now and I think definitely immigration will be addressed and I will be there to make sure that we're protected," Longoria told Tarts at a recent party.

And is it about time we devoted our resources to our neighboring land rather than pouring funds globally?

"It is unfortunate that we spend so much time as Americans all over the world, and we need to really focus a lot of our energy on our front porch which is Mexico and I hope that we'll be able to bring more attention to the a lot of the poverty and illiteracy and the educational programs in Mexico," the Desperate Housewives starlet added. "I would definitely love to help, we're going to be doing a charity in Mexico City next year and we're going to gather a lot of star power from Mexico and raise a lot of money for educational programs."

So, in the name of "helping Mexico", Eva wants us to a) cut off aid to the rest of the world, and send it all to improving education and health care in Mexico; and b) throw away any immigration controls, so that all those newly healthy, well-educated Mexicans abandon their country and come here. Makes perfect sense! Man, we really need to listen to Hollywood stars more often.

1183 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:13:17am

re: #1178 jcm

Defense if part of the Consitutional Mandate.
So is international diplomacy and regulation to keep the states form getting into economic wars with each other (interstate commerce).

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Where is the authority for the bailouts?

The constitution is a wonderful document, but it could not see 200 years into the future. Even things that we take for granted like the FAA, the FCC and the rest. The national banking system, taxes. even US currency were years in the future.

1184 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:16:26am

re: #1156 Timbre

"My mom got struck by a car several years ago and is still sustaining the injuries," she said.


Damn, that's one long car accident!

1185 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:16:43am
1186 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:18:52am

re: #1183 avanti

The Founders understood that over time, the Constitution might have to be changed. That's why there's something in the Constitution known as an "amendment" process. The courts have short-circuited that process repeatedly, and often in my opinion, illicitly.

1187 Throbert McGee  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:21:24am

re: #1153 Occasional Reader

I find the ideas of Rapture ... stupid ... to the extent they adversely affect peoples' real-world decisions.

It would be interesting to know whether End-Times preaching has, in the long run, converted more non-believers into Christians, or more Christians into non-believers. I mean, presumably it tends to pack 'em into the pews in the short term -- that's why it never goes out of fashion. But I could see it contributing to high attrition rates, as people start to get tired of hearing, year after year, that the End Times are just around the corner.

1188 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:21:30am

re: #1153 Occasional Reader

Believing in the approach of the end times certainly could cause a lot of people to quit planning for the future.

That would be stupid of them, IMHO.

Sure, there are passages describing the end times that would precede the second coming. But there are also passages that imply we won't have time to prepare for it.

Also, people in the past have thought they were in the end times, and it would be terribly arrogant to think that we are any smarter, or know the mind of God.

1189 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:21:51am
1190 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:21:56am

re: #1185 taxfreekiller

In fact I think that Obama knows that he has failed, hell he could not even stand up to a loon from San Fransisco, Ms Pelosi, now he is faced with a death cult about to get a nuke, the death cult in Afghanistan, and China and Russia all over his dumb ass, he may just bail.

2 months in and he's tired......

1191 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:24:52am

re: #1183 avanti

The constitution is a wonderful document, but it could not see 200 years into the future. Even things that we take for granted like the FAA, the FCC and the rest. The national banking system, taxes. even US currency were years in the future.

There's a process to change it. Executive, Legislative and Judicial over reaching are not the way to do it.

Either we are a republic, or something else. Either we are a nation of laws with a supreme law, the Constitution or not.

You can't have it both ways.

1192 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:27:35am

re: #1190 jcm

2 months in and he's tired......

I got tired of him after 2 days (or less).

1193 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:28:22am

Interesting article about the future of evangelicals that if true, will effect the religious www.csmonitor.com...]>right

1194 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:32:11am

re: #1170 ploome hineni

That would be a very weak faith.

My point was, grover! appears to be worried about one specific idea causing a loss of faith if/when it proves untrue, whereas I think those same people would lose faith anyway, under the slightest provocation.

(Not that this is any excuse for preaching anything contradicted by Jesus's actual teachings. A Christian ought to take his warning against leading people away from God's Word very seriously.)

1195 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:38:13am
1196 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:38:51am
1197 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:39:12am
1198 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:39:35am
1199 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:40:52am

re: #1183 avanti

The constitution is a wonderful document, but it could not see 200 years into the future. Even things that we take for granted like the FAA, the FCC and the rest. The national banking system, taxes. even US currency were years in the future.

Had I ever wasted the time to think about it, I would have known you were a "living document" constitutionalist.

The authors knew they couldn't see into the future, and that is why they provided a process for amendments. What they didn't do was to say "and you can ignore any part of this when you want to do something it says you can't."

Saying the authors didn't know what we would face down the road is not a sufficient excuse for disregarding the Consitution's clear language and intent. Sadly, that disrespect for the letter and intent of the law has now become a part of our legal tradition.

If the founders can see us now, they would probably say something alogn the lines of "I was afraid of that" or "I hoped this wouldn't happen" or "how could the states and the people have given up their freedoms and powers that way?"

1200 jcm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:42:53am

re: #1194 lurking faith

That would be a very weak faith.

My point was, grover! appears to be worried about one specific idea causing a loss of faith if/when it proves untrue, whereas I think those same people would lose faith anyway, under the slightest provocation.

(Not that this is any excuse for preaching anything contradicted by Jesus's actual teachings. A Christian ought to take his warning against leading people away from God's Word very seriously.)

Also not to take what an preacher / teacher / evangelist says at face value. But to prove it against scripture.

1201 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:46:22am

re: #1193 avanti

The mainstream protestant churches have been in decline for decades. They're aging and losing members. The conservative, evangelical churches that are Bible-based are growing in leaps and bounds, because they take care of business, with rigorous Biblical indoctrination of their youth.

The article isn't wrong about the mainstream churches. They already are collapsing. They lack the chops even to complain about Obama's repeal of the charitable deduction for rich people. That change in the tax law will murder them, together with synagogues and every other private sector charity, and they don't even get it. Frankly, they deserve to die.

1202 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:51:38am
1203 razorbacker  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:56:13am

I do not see the stated problem. Indeed, the solution is so obvious that surely someone upthread has already suggested it.

Don't let good Christians drive.

Shouldn't be a real problem, anyways. No matter what any professed 'Christian' does, there'll be loads of other people to step in and say, "That's not very 'Christian' of you, is it?"

So, that whole 'crashing cars' thing worries me not at all. I figure it won't be any worse than a normal Friday night after 12 PM.

1204 avanti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 10:11:55am

re: #1199 lurking faith

Had I ever wasted the time to think about it, I would have known you were a "living document" constitutionalist.

You got me on the living document. While I agree the amendment process is the best way to go, how would you craft a amendment to allow for the rapid implementation of new rules. i.e. we decide we need national regulation of the airlines, or the air waves ? Do we have a amendment for every expansion of federal power or do we do it and leave it to the courts to rule on it's constitutionality ?

1205 Basho  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 10:46:09am

Billy Graham epic fail:
[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

1206 sffilk  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 11:09:18am

*sigh*

Another fine example of his blatherings.

1207 phitoness  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 11:14:44am

It seems that Christian bashing has become all the rage here, but Muslim bashing is a no-no. Do I have that right?

1208 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 11:29:34am

re: #1207 phitoness

No, any bigoted bashing is a no-no here. However, well deserved criticism of the idiocy and evils of fundamentalists and extremists is very much in season. If you want to identify with that lot, that's your problem.

1209 LynnfromNZ  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 11:40:47am

re: #673 aussiemagpie

Hey -- we live in Mangawhai. I'm actually an American married to a Kiwi.

I must say I enjoy rugby, and that cricket's more interesting (and understandable) than I thought at first.

1210 happycamper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 11:51:56am

I read LGF several times a day but rarely post. Although Charles is correct in his post 1041 that he simply quoted Falwell verbatim, he put the air in the tires that other posters are riding on. I agree entirely that Charles can put up anything he wants because it's his site, and posters can write anything they want in response.

With that said, what used to be a comfortable room to rub elbows in isn't as comfortable anymore. And it's because of threads like this. "Kimmie" says she wants her account closed and "killgore trout" tells her to "f-ck off". And that's just one example. Reads like stuff on that swamp called dailykos.

1211 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 12:03:01pm

re: #1210 happycamper

'happycamper' - LOL. Yes, this site just isn't as welcoming as it should be to attention seeking twerps who have just declared that they 'want their account closed' because they don't like it here anymore because they percieve that ignorant bigoted nutballs like Jerry Falwell aren't respected./

1212 avspatti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:20:17pm

re: #1208 Jimmah

No, any bigoted bashing is a no-no here. However, well deserved criticism of the idiocy and evils of fundamentalists and extremists is very much in season. If you want to identify with that lot, that's your problem.

All fundamentalists are not extremists. For example, those who believe that the Constitution should be adhered to and not considered a 'living document' are fundamentalists. Fundamentalists are people who strongly believe in the fundamentals (basic concepts and ideas) of something. Of course, there are some Christians who are extreme, but many others who consider themselves fundamentalists are simply choosing to believe in the concepts and ideas found in the Bible. Whether you agree or not, they are being faithful to what they believe. Except for the extremists, they are harming nobody. Some respect would be helpful so that we all can continue to enjoy discussing things here.

1213 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:41:38pm

re: #1210 happycamper

I read LGF several times a day but rarely post. Although Charles is correct in his post 1041 that he simply quoted Falwell verbatim, he put the air in the tires that other posters are riding on. I agree entirely that Charles can put up anything he wants because it's his site, and posters can write anything they want in response.

What would be more interesting, possibly, is whether or not you support Falwell's comments. Does it occur to you that many people find those comments insulting and vulgar even? One can brush them off as the rantings of a loon, or one can call them the rantings of a loon without any apparent respect for those he sees killed in car crashes, when HE goes to his "reward", with or without virgins.

There is nothing "Christian" in that type of worldview. Where do you stand?

1214 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:43:31pm

re: #1212 avspatti

Fundamentalists who are lambasted here are not the kind you describe, generally. They are the kind who wish to impose their fundamentals on others.

1215 happycamper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:47:57pm

re: #1211 Jimmah

My point wasn't about "attention seeking twerps". It was about the atmosphere that empowers people like you and kilgore to say things to or about people that you would NEVER say to their faces. I'll bet you and people like kilgore are kind people in public; you probably let the person in their car exiting the gas station to merge in front of you; I'll bet you would even enjoy a fun debate with people like me who believe in the rapture. What I don't believe is that you or kilgore would insult someone in person just because you disagree with them, so why do it online? It makes what should be a fun place suck. If I wanted to visit places that suck I would be reading kos or huffpo more. Am I being unrealistic to expect more from the lizard community?

1216 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:51:50pm

re: #1215 happycamper

You are entitled to believe I will burn in hell, but if you think you deserve my respect for believing so, then you are a loon like Falwell.

1217 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:52:29pm

Heading out for a while

1218 happycamper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 1:58:04pm

re: #1213 Naso Tang

So, my post is only valid if you concur with my theology? Again, my point isn't what theology someone has or doesn't. My point is why would anyone even want to even share their theology when others are just waiting to trash them? Who cares what I believe or what you think of my beliefs? Can't we make a post without having to take your test?

BTW: Anyone who thinks Falwell's quote is insulting and vulgar wouldn't tell a another poster to f-ck off. Don't you agree?

1219 happycamper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:04:17pm

re: #1216 Naso Tang

Where in any of my posts did I say or think you're going to hell? You made my point for me why it isn't fun here anymore? And what gave you the impression I want or deserve your respect? You must be really fun around the dinner table, because you're a hoot on this thread.

1220 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:08:20pm

re: #462 Bullskin

Downdinged because you claimed that evolution had some weak points, but did not provide any empirical evidence credibly demonstrating such points, only some ramblingly unfounded conjectures and speculations, distastefully leavened yet again with the same old ad ignorantium greek logical fallacy.

1221 happycamper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:21:52pm

re: #1213 Naso Tang

There is nothing "Christian" in that type of worldview. Where do you stand?

At the risk of being pummeled by the tolerant people like you on this thread, I get my worldview on this subject NOT from Falwell, but from Matthew 24:36-41; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52. I happen to believe in the promises as well as the warnings in the Bible, and I guess you would call me a "fundamentalist" for this. That's fine. I just found it difficult to pick and choose what I want to believe in the Bible, so I'll rely on faith. And guess what? I do believe in heaven and hell and would never presume where God would send you or anybody else.

Now, am I still welcome to post on this or any other thread, or do I need to leave because you find my beliefs "insulting or vulgar"?

1222 avspatti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:30:47pm

re: #1214 Naso Tang

Fundamentalists who are lambasted here are not the kind you describe, generally. They are the kind who wish to impose their fundamentals on others.

But is that really true, or is that your perception of what they are thinking? In my view, people are free to think/believe whatever they wish. Sometimes, I think and actually am certain that some have had bad or painful experiences in the past with some church people, and that causes them to generalize that others are trying to railroad them into changing what they think. Really too general imo.

1223 avspatti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:46:34pm

re: #1183 avanti

Yes, but those are specifics that of course the founders couldn't foresee. What they have given us is a document full of principles, checks and balances between the states and the federal gov. as well as among the three branches. They might not have been able to foretell the future, BUT they knew human nature very well. Human nature has not changed. If specifics need to be changed, the amendment process is the way to go. Yes, it takes time. That is a good thing so that we are not totally subject to every whim and fad that comes down the pike.

1224 avspatti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:49:15pm

re: #1190 jcm

2 months in and he's tired......

Does anyone here think that O is surprised to be in the presidency so soon? I can't help but think O was thinking of this as a trial run for a serious attempt at being POTUS in the next election, or even later.

1225 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:57:00pm

re: #946 Peacekeeper

Interestingly, there is aDarwin debate (sort of) going on amongst Democrats. I never would have guessed.

Campolo should read Darwin's Sacred Cause: How a Hatred of Slavery Shaped Darwin's Views on Human Evolution:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

1226 Scorch  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 2:57:39pm

Ok so what major policy blunder or other idiocy has our new commander in chief committed today?

1227 bullskin  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:03:24pm

re: #1220 Salamantis

Downdinged because you claimed that evolution had some weak points, but did not provide any empirical evidence credibly demonstrating such points, only some ramblingly unfounded conjectures and speculations, distastefully leavened yet again with the same old ad ignorantium greek logical fallacy.

Well, I doubt you could find an evidence of the botanic family which lead to the specie provided. I just saw this case in the Natural Science Museum as a curious mishap in the Evolution Theory, which being a theory is not a dogma. Darwin didn't explain how the Prokaryote cell evolves to the Eukaryote cell, how the nucleus sets itself, detaches from the cytoplasm among other differences. This theory do not explain how the process of organization of complex cells brings itself the result of living beings with self conscience. If this was a dogma, we wouldn't be seeking life in other worlds right know.

1228 Salamantis  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 3:56:03pm

re: #1227 bullskin

Well, I doubt you could find an evidence of the botanic family which lead to the specie provided. I just saw this case in the Natural Science Museum as a curious mishap in the Evolution Theory, which being a theory is not a dogma. Darwin didn't explain how the Prokaryote cell evolves to the Eukaryote cell, how the nucleus sets itself, detaches from the cytoplasm among other differences. This theory do not explain how the process of organization of complex cells brings itself the result of living beings with self conscience. If this was a dogma, we wouldn't be seeking life in other worlds right know.

Once again, just because we DON'T know some things doesn't mean that there aren't many things that we DO know. For instance, it is rationally undeniable that evolution, defined as the change in species population over time, happens, as amply and abundantly attested by the paleontological record. It is also beyond rational denial that the mechanism by means of which these changes transpire is random genetic mutation acted upon by nonrandom environmental selection, and that the physical substrate in which this occurs is the DNA molecule. The veiled reference you make to the evolution of complexity being opposed by the second law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems, while the terrestrial biosphere is an open system, receiving energy from both the Sun and the Earth' hot core. 3 1/2 billion years is plenty of time for the accretion of a cascde of mutations to result in the plethora of terrestrial species we observe today. And evolutionary theory began with Darwin, but didn't end with him; much ha been done with it in the ensuing 150 years, and ALL of the empirical evidence supports evolution, while NONE of it contradicts evolution.

ID/Creationim, on the other hand, has NO supporting empirical evidence, and doesn't explain a thing:

[Link: ase.tufts.edu...]

The artifactual retroviral DNA evidence for evolutionary divergence from common ancestors is incontrovertible:

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

And evolutionary mutation has been observed in ther laboratory, and can be repeated at will:

[Link: myxo.css.msu.edu...]

As far as procaryotes evolving from eukaryotes is concerned, evolution has an explanation for that, too:

[Link: evolution.berkeley.edu...]

[Link: www.infoplease.com...]

You might wanna bone up on the different arguments made by creationists that have been discredited and debunked:

[Link: www.talkorigins.org...]

Self-conscious awareness, btw, is a case where the quotient of the number of neurons in the brain, multiplied by the number of their synaptic and axonal connections, breached the Godelian threshhold, allowing for recursive self-reference. It is a result of the evolutionry growth of the hominid brain, spurred by the selection pressures of the necessity for fine-grained hand-eye co-ordination in order to manufacture and manipulate tools (a capacity that was applied via a metamutation to the mouth-ear nexus, permitting the production and parsing of phonemic speech), and the necessity of the grasping of the intentions of conspecifics in social hominid communities.

1229 Bullskin  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:16:32pm

Thanks for the effort, but it is 00:13 now. I will read some of them tomorrow after the Inquisition trials of midday. Nite.

1230 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:26:44pm

re: #1218 happycamper

So, my post is only valid if you concur with my theology? Again, my point isn't what theology someone has or doesn't. My point is why would anyone even want to even share their theology when others are just waiting to trash them? Who cares what I believe or what you think of my beliefs? Can't we make a post without having to take your test?

BTW: Anyone who thinks Falwell's quote is insulting and vulgar wouldn't tell a another poster to f-ck off. Don't you agree?

Back from dinner.

I posed no test and I "share" no theology.

You defended, it seemed, Falwell's by complaining that people are critical of it. That implies that you think it deserves respect, when it (his theology) clearly condemns others to punishment. Why you think anyone should respect that I don't know.

As to vulgarities; I try to avoid them and cannot speak for others. Sometimes people are eloquent, sometimes not. Give someone a down ding if you don't like the language. Post a reply if you don't like the logic.

1231 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:32:32pm

re: #1219 happycamper

Where in any of my posts did I say or think you're going to hell? You made my point for me why it isn't fun here anymore? And what gave you the impression I want or deserve your respect? You must be really fun around the dinner table, because you're a hoot on this thread.

You said you share this rapture thing. I don't, which logically means I am condemned to hell or something similar.

You complained of criticisms regarding that form of belief. That suggests that you think it deserves respect and by association, yourself.

Fell free to correct if I misunderstand.

As to the dinner table. This place is not a dinner table and I was brought up to believe that at dinner one does not talk politics, religion or sex, but if that were the case on LGF, I would not be here.

1232 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:43:09pm

re: #1222 avspatti

But is that really true, or is that your perception of what they are thinking?

It may be my perception of what they are thinking, but as a general rule I will hold my tongue on that if it does not affect me in any obvious way.

In my view, people are free to think/believe whatever they wish.

Of course. Need you say that?

Sometimes, I think and actually am certain that some have had bad or painful experiences in the past with some church people, and that causes them to generalize that others are trying to railroad them into changing what they think. Really too general imo.

I'm guessing that you are suggesting that applies to me. Nope.

Falwell was a prime example of one who would impose his beliefs on others, and specifically here we are concerned with their efforts to influence education for all in their direction. That deserves response.

Your response seems primarily focussed on whether or not one is being offensive, without recognizing that it is offensive to many to manipulate the system to impose one religious belief or another on everyone.

1233 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 5:44:38pm

Looks like End of Thread Times again, but I do like to be polite and try to answer questions.

Will check back later.

1234 avspatti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:35:00pm

re: #1232 Naso Tang

Actually, I wasn't thinking of you but of a relative who had some very disheartening experiences in church as she was growing up. I have to say that Christians are the ones who are being attacked in many places today such as in high school and higher ed. classrooms as well as in the public square. I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that being anti-semitic is the kiss of death (rightly so); being anti-Christian is just fine.

1235 happycamper  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:49:20pm

re: #1231 Naso Tang

In a previous post you said there is nothing 'Christian' in a worldview that believes in the rapture. I beg to differ. Most Christians that read their Bibles probably hold this belief, and I posted the Bible verses that we base that belief on. You don't have to believe it. You don't even have to respect it. I don't care. Just don't presume for others what is "Christian" and what isn't.

1236 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:03:59pm

re: #1235 happycamper

In a previous post you said there is nothing 'Christian' in a worldview that believes in the rapture. I beg to differ. Most Christians that read their Bibles probably hold this belief, and I posted the Bible verses that we base that belief on. You don't have to believe it. You don't even have to respect it. I don't care. Just don't presume for others what is "Christian" and what isn't.

I see. I could have use different words I agree, but in this context I am referring to the Falwell quote and it's implications.

If I say in response to your arguments - "Go to hell", you would probably find it rude and disrespectful.

If someone says to me - "You will go to hell if you don't accept my beliefs", then I find it rude and disrespectful.

The only reason we are having this argument, or debate, is because I have the impression that you think I should respect the second version of that statement.

However if the statement is unspoken even as I know it exists, I will respect the other party for not imposing it.

1237 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:17:35pm

re: #1234 avspatti

Actually, I wasn't thinking of you but of a relative who had some very disheartening experiences in church as she was growing up. I have to say that Christians are the ones who are being attacked in many places today such as in high school and higher ed. classrooms as well as in the public square. I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that being anti-semitic is the kiss of death (rightly so); being anti-Christian is just fine.

You seem to be addressing two different issues here. The first sounds like stuff that happened in the Catholic church; but I'm guessing. The second sounds much like anecdotal stories of discrimination of the majority by the minority.

Without specifics I can't comment on what you mean, but I'm going to guess that mean things like posting the 10 commandments in places where they don't belong due to the fact that we are a secular, multicultural, multi religion society.

Here at LGF there has been much discussion and attack on efforts to impose one religious belief (not one religion) upon everyone, and to do so by deceptive means. Some choose to call that attack on religion and then they have a meltdown and go somewhere else to condemn LGF and it's members to hell.

As to anti semitic, I think you can be quite sure that if Jews behaved like ID/Creationists, they would be treated exactly the same. For some reason though, they haven't done so yet.

You however, have a sensible style about you. I hope you will visit more often, and grow a thicker skin. :=)

1238 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:22:13pm

re: #1221 happycamper


Now, am I still welcome to post on this or any other thread, or do I need to leave because you find my beliefs "insulting or vulgar"?

You are welcome. If I find you insulting or vulgar I will most likely reply, perhaps just ding.

In this case I found your defense of Falwell lacking. He was insulting and vulgar, not only to the living but also to the dead.

I do however accept that that was likely not what you meant. If you leave it would be simply because your beliefs can't take the heat.

I hope you will stay.

1239 Haverwilde  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:24:55pm

re: #1207 phitoness

It seems that Christian bashing has become all the rage here, but Muslim bashing is a no-no. Do I have that right?

We criticize Islamic 'moderates' for not speaking up about Islamic Fundamentalists. But somehow when Christians speak out against the rediculous comments made by fundamentalist Christians we are doing something wrong. I have little respect for Jerry Falwell, and less respect for his theology. Anyone that would say that AIDS was sent by God against Gay men is sick. (By that logic Lesbians must be the chosen people.) His outlandish statement that starts this thread is another example of how wrong-headed he is. But I am saying this as a Christian. And I believe it is the correct and right thing to do.

1240 avspatti  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 9:32:25pm

re: #1237 Naso Tang

Actually my relative was attending a Congregational church when she had her painful experiences. Also, I don't really care about posting the Ten Commandments everywhere either. I was referring to the fact that in many classrooms, Christians are not allowed to speak freely of their beliefs while all others are. It seems in those situations (and I have personally witnessed them), free speech is not ok for Christians. Ridicule is often used instead of discussion. Many professors shut the Christian students down and hold the power of grades over those with whom they disagree. This is not an isolated event as I am sure others will attest to. My point is that the rules are not evenhanded. Just because a Christian expresses his/her ideas does not mean he/she is trying to force others to follow along. Calm persuasive speech is one thing; irrational yelling and force is quite another. In the marketplace of ideas, discussion is key, is it not? As an educator, I am disturbed by the above trend.

1241 Zola  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 12:29:15am

When was the Jerry Farwell comment made? Does anyone know?

1242 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 1:15:08am

re: #1240 avspatti

Actually my relative was attending a Congregational church when she had her painful experiences. Also, I don't really care about posting the Ten Commandments everywhere either. I was referring to the fact that in many classrooms, Christians are not allowed to speak freely of their beliefs while all others are. It seems in those situations (and I have personally witnessed them), free speech is not ok for Christians. Ridicule is often used instead of discussion. Many professors shut the Christian students down and hold the power of grades over those with whom they disagree. This is not an isolated event as I am sure others will attest to. My point is that the rules are not evenhanded. Just because a Christian expresses his/her ideas does not mean he/she is trying to force others to follow along. Calm persuasive speech is one thing; irrational yelling and force is quite another. In the marketplace of ideas, discussion is key, is it not? As an educator, I am disturbed by the above trend.

There should not be equal time for the creationist GodDidIt answer to every empirical science question, because creationism ain't science, it's religion, and it does not belong in public high school science class, any more than Einstein or Darwin belong preached from the pulpit.

You want freedom of speech for your views? Shout them out on streetcorners, pass out flyers at malls, stand on soapboxes in public parks. But don't think you have a right to force the shoehorning of either empirically untestable or empirically falsified dogmas into the pliable young minds of other peoples' kids in public high school science class just because ya likes 'em. Public high school science classes aren't for the free exchange of any old moldy craziness, like astrology, alchemy, and every-star-planet-and-species-was-independently-and-as-is-created-a-few-thousand-years-ago-in-the-span-of-six-days-ism; they're for instruction in empirical demonstrable facts and the theories that can be logically derived from (not gratuitously imposed on) aggregates of them. Empirical science ain't a matter of personal preference or public opinion, it's a matter of the evidence, and if your pet dogma is untestable or demonstrably wrong, it doesn't matter how much you like it, or how many other people do. There ain't no evenhanded halfway between demonstrably correct and demonstrably incorrect, or between demonstrably correct and undemonstrable.

1243 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 1:16:08am

re: #1241 Zola

When was the Jerry Falwell comment made? Does anyone know?

The twisted bastard made it TWO DAYS after 9-11.

1244 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:24am

re: #1240 avspatti

I am surprised that you don't think that school is not the place to express religious beliefs and that people who try to do so are the ones likely being impolite rather than those who criticize them.

As to the power of grades, if you are thinking of creationists wanting "A"s in physics or biology or geology then they don't deserve them. It is that simple.

Let them study astrology or dowsing if they want to excel.

1245 avspatti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:52:02am

re: #1242 Salamantis

I nowhere said anything about creationism. That is not what I meant at all. I was thinking more about commenting on ways the culture has become more vulgar and debased such as speech, entertainment, in-your-face sex, etc.

1246 avspatti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:00:15am

re: #1244 Naso Tang

I am surprised that you don't think that school is not the place to express religious beliefs and that people who try to do so are the ones likely being impolite rather than those who criticize them.

As to the power of grades, if you are thinking of creationists wanting "A"s in physics or biology or geology then they don't deserve them. It is that simple.

Let them study astrology or dowsing if they want to excel.

Please see my comment just above. I am not at all referring to A's in science (my son is a scientist) but rather grades in classes such as English lit, sociology, psychology, ed. classes etc. It is not about expressing religious beliefs. It is about expressing a personal world view. Non-Christians have a world view also and it is held as strongly as that of Christians. I don't understand why everything seems to come back to creationism. There are plenty of moral issues to talk about that have nothing to do with creationism. There is more talk about that here than there is in any church I have attended. Most Christians are not sitting around thinking and talking constantly about creationism.

1247 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:03:48am

re: #1246 avspatti

That is true, but it is a topic of interest here because of it's very real implications for education. You cannot complain about LGF just because it doesn't cover everything you think should be on the front page.

You are however free to bring up your own topics and see if anyone responds.

Got to go to work now.

1248 avspatti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:13am

From reading many of the comments above, it sounds like many people have a caricature in their minds of what a Christian is. As in most caricatures, there is a bit of truth there as there are some Christians who fit that mold. However, the vast majority do not. When I say that Christians are not free to state their beliefs, I am referring more to morality. Honestly, for me, discussion of creationism would be a side issue. Being able to discuss things such as pre-marital sex, foul language, relationships with others, non-governmental charitable work, film and other entertainment which debase women etc. Please at least consider that most of us are not raving maniacs! I, for one, enjoy such discussions and trying to understand why many people think as they do. Whether or not we agree, it is interesting, no?

1249 Bullskin  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:02am

re: #1228 Salamantis

I can not deny evolution, I find it consistent. I just say that it is a theory and as any scientific theory is subject of revision, and not a dogma. A dogmatic is what you wrongly guess I am

In the case of the Cycas Revoluta I’m not claiming that God came and put it in a Sunday afternoon. I say that there is no previous DNA, or specie which could have mutated to origin this new one, therefore the Evolution Theory just can not explain this. Panspermia could.

Note I’m not sustaining creationism, just I say that there are unexplained events that in future we might be able to explain, but now, we can’t

For example, crowds of scientists claimed there is a man made climate change, (previously called global warming), and few disagreed. I take the part of the few, because they claim that solar activity leads to cloud forming when sun radiation abates our magnetic field shielding the cosmic radiation which leads to nucleation of water drops. Hence, the clouds and not CO2 is responsible for the shielding of natural UV radiation received.
Lynn Margulis says that 99% of mutations are harmful for the organism, therefore these mutations at random can not be the motor of evolution. And she is opposed to the majority which grabbed her brilliant explanation of the prokaryote cell evolution.
Meanwhile for evolution, genome would be the director of the process and the organism just follows its dictation, she claims that organisms are the real actors of the process and the genome a registry filed and modified by them.

If we can not understand or perceive the concept of God in a rational form, you can not say in future this could be possible if it could. In any case, for Christians, faith is a magnificent shortcut.

BTW, in the Inquisition trials of today nobody has been burned. Those lucky unbelievers!.

1250 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 2:28:51pm

re: #1249 Bullskin

I can not deny evolution, I find it consistent. I just say that it is a theory and as any scientific theory is subject of revision, and not a dogma. A dogmatic is what you wrongly guess I am.

Ahh, once again the 'just a theory' canard appears. But the word 'theory' mean an entirely different thing in the empirical science context than it means in common parlance. According to the United States National Academy of Sciences,

Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature supported by facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena.

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

In the case of the Cycas Revoluta I’m not claiming that God came and put it in a Sunday afternoon. I say that there is no previous DNA, or specie which could have mutated to origin this new one, therefore the Evolution Theory just can not explain this. Panspermia could.

No panspermia couldn't. The seeds of the plant would never be able to withstand the immense heat of entry through our atmosphere riding on a meteorite or comet.

In fact, Cycas Revoluta is only one of 90 members of the genus Cycas, which is the only member of the family Cycadaceae:

[Link: plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au...]

Cyclas Revoluta hs, within that genus, closer relatives, such as Cycas Taitungensis, and more distant ones, such as Cycas Furfuracea. Are you claiming that all 90 of them came from seeds that got here from meteorites, comets, or little green men?

Note I’m not sustaining creationism, just I say that there are unexplained events that in future we might be able to explain, but now, we can’t.

But the gaps get fewer and narrower as time goes on and more empirical evidence comes in. That is the trend.

to be continued...

1251 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 2:45:39pm

re: #1249 Bullskin

continued...

For example, crowds of scientists claimed there is a man made climate change, (previously called global warming), and few disagreed. I take the part of the few, because they claim that solar activity leads to cloud forming when sun radiation abates our magnetic field shielding the cosmic radiation which leads to nucleation of water drops. Hence, the clouds and not CO2 is responsible for the shielding of natural UV radiation received.

AGW is bad science, but it is science nonetheless (unlike creationism/ID). And the proof of this is that it can be empirically falsified - and that is precisely what is happening now, as researchers, following the empirical evidence, are deserting it in droves for the solar cycle model.

Lynn Margulis says that 99% of mutations are harmful for the organism, therefore these mutations at random can not be the motor of evolution. And she is opposed to the majority which grabbed her brilliant explanation of the prokaryote cell evolution.

Of course 99% of mutations would not be environmentally selected for; it is that 1% that drives evolution. You DO know that 99% of all species that have ever existed are extinct, don't you? And you DO know that Lunn Margulis, along with James Lovelock, developed the Gaia Hypothesis, which postultes that the planet's biosphere is a self-regulating whole that would naturally combat any tendencies towards global warming or cooling, despite the historical evidence, right? She is a feminist who has come to think of evolutionary theory as phallocentric, and her politics colors her sceince in that respect.

Meanwhile for evolution, genome would be the director of the process and the organism just follows its dictation, she claims that organisms are the real actors of the process and the genome a registry filed and modified by them.

This long-discredited theory is known as Lamarckism. The Soviet Lysenko tried to administrate Stalin-era agriculture according to its principles, and ended up starving 30 million people. None of these people has yet to be able to explain how the environment could reach inside the genome and modify particular codons in specific ways.

If we can not understand or perceive the concept of God in a rational form, you can not say in future this could be possible if it could. In any case, for Christians, faith is a magnificent shortcut.

BTW, in the Inquisition trials of today nobody has been burned. Those lucky unbelievers!.

If God could be empirically detected, it would be the end of religion, and of religious faith. Belief would no longer be necessary, as God could be empirically known, and empirical evidence for God's existence provided, and the study of deity would abandon the churches and become a branch of empirical science.

1252 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:02:30pm

re: #1248 avspatti

Nobody says "most of us" are raving maniacs. If you spend a little more time reading here you will find that the majority of posters are Christians, critical of some other Christians, and that is as it should be.

Creationism would be as important as dowsing to most people, if they kept it at home. The problem is they don't keep it at home, they want it in your home and my home, and not by persuasion, but by deception.

You'll get the hang of it if you hang around more, just remember the golden rule; don't tell Charles what to post on his blog. Do your own instead.

Cheers, and moving upthread now.

1253 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:59:24pm

re: #1215 happycamper


My point wasn't about "attention seeking twerps".

You made specific reference to one in your post:

"Kimmie" says she wants her account closed...".

Kimmie was not a respectful participant in the conversation. She only turned up to diss this site and collect her martyr cookie.

It was about the atmosphere that empowers people like you and kilgore to say things to or about people that you would NEVER say to their faces.

People do tend to be more straightforward on the web - that's a fact that's true of any site. Having said that, if I'm having a conversation in meat space and someone who has never spoken to me or anyone else in the room marches up to me and announces how distasteful he/she finds the conversation we are having and then turns around demanding that he/she be prevented from entering the room again, "Fuck off" is a perfectly reasonable and in fact likely response.

If I wanted to visit places that suck I would be reading kos or huffpo more. Am I being unrealistic to expect more from the lizard community?

If you are looking for a site where Falwell and his ilk are respected and the "I, martyr" tantrums of their angry supporters are admired I suspect you are very much in the wrong place.

1254 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:39pm

re: #1214 Naso Tang

Fundamentalists who are lambasted here are not the kind you describe, generally. They are the kind who wish to impose their fundamentals on others.

Exactly.

1255 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:07pm

re: #1248 avspatti

From reading many of the comments above, it sounds like many people have a caricature in their minds of what a Christian is. As in most caricatures, there is a bit of truth there as there are some Christians who fit that mold. However, the vast majority do not.

The comments that have been the subject of dispute here have centred on Jerry Falwell, and martyr-of-the-moment Kimmie. We are not talking about Christians as a whole, just those ones who happen to be assholes.

1256 Haverwilde  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:58pm

re: #1235 happycamper

In a previous post you said there is nothing 'Christian' in a worldview that believes in the rapture. I beg to differ. Most Christians that read their Bibles probably hold this belief, and I posted the Bible verses that we base that belief on.

Okay, I didn't see the bible verses you mentioned. But I assume one of them is Matthew Chapter 24. I found that chapter curious in seminary. First you could construe it as a metaphor, or as a description of 'the rapture.' But as a description you have to look past a couple of glaring problems. First the ‘stars will fall.’ (I can’t quite get my mind around that one.) Second: “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Taken literally that would mean ‘the rapture’ took place 1900 years ago.
I have no problem with Christians wanting a ‘Rapture’ or even believing that one is coming, but to say that most Christians believe it, that I doubt. Most Catholics don’t. None of my Baptist Congregation believed in its literal truth.
And eveb putting all that aside, it is Falwell’s ‘damn-the-passenger-in-the-car’ attitude that for me is antithetical to a Christian position.’

1257 happycamper  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 9:09:16am

re: #1256 Haverwilde

The verses that I believe tell of a rapture (or whatever you want to call it) is Matthew 24:36-41; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52.
It is these verses, along with the rest of my understanding of the Bible, that are why I believe this, not anything Falwell says or believes. I don't care about Falwell, never listened to him, and couldn't care less about what he says or believes. Just because a nut happens to believe what you believe doesn't make you a nut.

I don't mind debating theological differences with people. It's fun. What's not fair is claiming I think you're (not you, Haverwilde) going to hell because I hold this belief, and putting me in the same boat as Falwell.

BTW: Since it was Jesus (and not me) who said "I am the way, the truth, and the life. NOBODY comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) Do you think that statement is "antithetical" to a Christian position?

1258 Salamantis  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 12:55:47pm

re: #1255 Jimmah

The comments that have been the subject of dispute here have centred on Jerry Falwell, and martyr-of-the-moment Kimmie. We are not talking about Christians as a whole, just those ones who happen to be assholes.

One does wonder about the cosmic justice of the most execrable assholes heading to Heaven just because they're Christian, and the most praiseworthy paragons of virtue being consigned to Hell just because they aren't.

1259 bullskin  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 12:56:53pm

Salamantis:

Ok, a good scientific theory becomes an universal true. Seeds?, I didn't mention seeds, but I think a big comet can override the reentry process without its frozen nucleus being harmed by this.
Regarding Lynn's works, I just read the interesting link explaining the prokaryote cell evolution and saw that you were interested only in this, but not in her whole skeptic stance.
I don't care if she is feminist or communist, all this crap doesn't mind, I already know what it is.
Finally, if religions end, and become a scientific branch, I think it might be wonderful. As I said, I am a Christian, a skeptic one, and believe in God, but I find you more radical voting against my comments meanwhile I could find sense in yours, and didn't.

1260 Salamantis  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 1:15:18pm

re: #1259 bullskin

Salamantis:

Ok, a good scientific theory becomes an universal true. Seeds?, I didn't mention seeds, but I think a big comet can override the reentry process without its frozen nucleus being harmed by this.

Oh, Puh-LEEEZE! For one thing, you'd have to postulate the comet-seeding of 90 different members of the genus Cyclas. And for another thing, such seeds would still have had to evolve SOMEWHERE in the universe; you're merely kicking the evolution can down the road, not off it. And big comets, upon entering our atmosphere, explode with the force of nuclear weapons:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

And that was a relativerly small one; the one that struck around the Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago was a global ELE (extinction level event), completely wiping out the dinosaurs.

Regarding Lynn's works, I just read the interesting link explaining the prokaryote cell evolution and saw that you were interested only in this, but not in her whole skeptic stance.
I don't care if she is feminist or communist, all this crap doesn't mind, I already know what it is.

It matters when it taints her empirical objectivity. Big time. People can be, and often are, right about some things and wrong about others. Einstein, for instance, was right about relativity but wrong about quantum mechanics, because he had a determinist bias.

Finally, if religions end, and become a scientific branch, I think it might be wonderful. As I said, I am a Christian, a skeptic one, and believe in God, but I find you more radical voting against my comments meanwhile I could find sense in yours, and didn't.

Any God that might possibly ever be empirically detected (although how an extra-empirical being could ever be detected by empirical means boggles the mind) would without a doubt be quite unrecognizeable as the anthropomophic figure embraced by most Theists. We can make, and have made, our conception of God in our image, but that fact would cut no ice with any genuine deific article.

I guess we aren't equal in each finding sense in the other's comments.


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